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00:23.33Jormungandrhow goes the bot so far, noodle?
00:26.19Noodleman_well...
00:26.32Noodleman_i'm having trouble figuring out the protocol :-)
00:26.47Jormungandr:)
00:26.54JormungandrI wish I could help.
00:27.06Noodleman_the reference isn't very good
00:27.08JormungandrI can't even get bzflag to compile in linux :(
00:27.11Jormungandrerr
00:27.11Jormungandrmac
00:27.14Jormungandros x
00:27.15Noodleman_whoever wrote it: sorry
00:27.17Noodleman_:-)
00:27.19JormungandrI can compile fine in linux. :)
00:27.45Noodleman_are you using the mac os x bzflag?
00:28.12JormungandrI want to.  the compiled on I have is slow and a few of the menu options aren't available.
00:28.25Jormungandrs/on/one
00:28.25Noodleman_hmm
00:28.45JormungandrI have a new vid card, too, so it should work great.
00:29.02Jormungandrati radeon 8500 Mac Edition.
00:29.03Noodleman_do you have X installed? maybe that would help
00:29.08Jormungandryes
00:29.37Noodleman_I wish I could help
00:29.39Noodleman_:-)
00:29.48Jormungandr:)
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02:17.20[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:17.56[Blitz]LTDk
02:18.06[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:18.09[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:18.34[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:18.47[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:18.51[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:18.54[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
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02:19.18[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:19.28[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:19.32[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:19.37[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:19.43[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:19.51[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:20.28[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:21.03[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:21.05[Blitz]LTDdoes anyone know if  there is list of commands for bzflag?
02:21.41[Blitz]LTDis ther anyone actually here?
02:22.11[Blitz]LTDis there anyone actually anyone here
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04:41.03TimRiker/mnt/hda1        184G  911M  183G   1% /mnt/dual <- heh
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05:24.48captain_protonjeez
05:25.00captain_protondamned users
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09:33.15Secret_Hamstermorning
09:33.45Secret_Hamsterwow lotsa users
09:34.03Secret_Hamsteror is it "wow lotsa lusers"
09:40.08TimRikerlow otsa woosers
09:43.51Chestaltag
09:47.22Chestalhmm, there are stil problems with the speeding kicks
09:47.48Chestalwill analyse my logs more thorughly later
09:56.15TimRikerlets just make it more loose and ship it.
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15:19.26doughecka'lo Secret_Hamster
15:19.33Secret_Hamsterlo doug
15:38.01doughecka~x de en bye all und besonders tobix
15:38.12dougheckalol
15:38.16doughecka~whois tobix
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16:38.07SGIhi
16:38.13SGI[dmp]
16:38.27SGIdo you remember you color and teammate
16:39.48SGIhello
16:41.23SGIplease answer
16:41.30SGIhi
16:41.33SGInhello
16:41.36SGIciao
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16:52.17[dmp]hi SGI. Color Blue teammate ski
17:01.48Chestal8-0, wow
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17:03.50bomberhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
17:07.21bomberhave a nice weekend..bye
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17:18.49[dmp]Chestal: well, strayer was out of shape.  :-)
17:19.55[dmp]anyway, it dosnt hurt to lose sometimes.
17:37.19doughecka~IMHO
17:37.20IMAP webmail module for Roxen. URL: http://www.lysator.liu.se/~stewa/IMHO/
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18:28.32doughecka'lo MrApathyCream
18:28.53Noodlemansup everybody?
18:29.15doughecka'lo Noodleman
18:29.30MrApathyCreamlo
18:29.44dougheckalol
18:30.06Noodlemani've got an extra machine
18:30.08Noodleman:-)
18:30.23dougheckahah
18:31.04Noodlemanright now it has lycoris desktop/lx
18:31.08NoodlemanX-P
18:31.14dougheckahehe
18:31.24Noodlemanever tried it?
18:32.55Noodlemanyou've done yourself a favor, then
18:32.57Noodleman:-)
18:33.00dougheckahaha
18:33.31Noodlemanwindows is better than desktop/lx
18:33.37dougheckalol
18:33.39Noodlemanbelieve it or not
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18:35.09Noodleman'lo [TeA|TrEE]
18:38.22[TeA|TrEE]hello
18:38.25[TeA|TrEE]hey Noddle
18:38.26[TeA|TrEE]:)
18:38.32[TeA|TrEE]3 Noddles
18:38.33[TeA|TrEE];)
18:38.38[TeA|TrEE]well 1 irc bot
18:38.44[TeA|TrEE]i can put a bot in aswell :)
18:38.52[TeA|TrEE]but its an angel botty
18:39.07[TeA|TrEE]probaly yours is a eggi ..
18:41.43Noodlemani actually wrote mine myself
18:41.54Noodlemaninsult [TeA|TrEE]
18:41.55Noodlebot[TeA|TrEE], thou idol of idiot-worshippers!
18:42.06Noodlemanhehe
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19:00.57larslIs anyone working on bug 694304? If not, I might have a go at it.
19:02.31Noodlemaninsult ibot
19:02.31Noodlebotibot, thou idol of idiot-worshippers!
19:02.32Noodlebot: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
19:02.37Noodlemaninsult ibot
19:03.20Noodlemaninsult ibot
19:03.31Noodlemanhehe
19:05.37Jormungandryay! paid all my bills, and I have money left over for the first time in over a year.
19:05.46Noodlemankewl!
19:05.51Jormungandr:)
19:06.16Noodlemanyou must have a lot of bills
19:06.20Noodlemanaren't you a sysadmin?
19:06.59Noodlemanor electric heat :-P
19:08.13Jormungandrheh
19:08.24Jormungandrthe company I work for pays badly
19:08.39Noodlemanah
19:08.52Noodlemansorry for being nosy :-)
19:08.55Jormungandrdoes anyone know of a program for windows that tells you what processes are writing to disk?
19:09.10JormungandrI'm pretty open about myself, so I don't mind.
19:13.02larsl~xmission
19:18.46[TeA|TrEE]hujh
19:18.48[TeA|TrEE]huhu
19:18.53[TeA|TrEE]Noodlebot: hello
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19:21.41SGI[dmp] you are here
19:22.21SGIhi
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19:50.15bzdougggggreetings
19:50.26Noodlemaninsult bzdougggg
19:50.27Noodlebotbzdougggg, thy brain is as dry as the remainder biscuit at the end of a voyage.
19:50.39bzdouggggtip: never EVER EVER open a 100 meg file in word pad
19:50.45Noodlemanlol
19:50.50Noodleman*boom*
19:50.53bzdougggghappens to suck your ram away very quickly
19:51.19Chestaleveryone knows that you have to use Word for a task like this
19:51.37bzdouggggChestal: hah
19:53.19bzdougggghmmm, maybe not...
20:01.22larslJoy!
20:03.38bzdouggggdum de dum, that seems to mess it up too
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20:05.44bzdougggghmm, is there anyway to split a file into alot of pieces?
20:05.56bzdougggglike 10 or 20 meg chunks?
20:07.24larsl'split'
20:07.33[TeA|TrEE]huuuuuuuuuh
20:07.34larslOh, you're on Windows.
20:07.34bzdouggggin windows
20:07.37bzdougggg:P
20:07.41[TeA|TrEE]me to :P
20:07.51[TeA|TrEE]dont know how do get online with RH
20:08.09Noodlemanbzdougggg: way back when, there was a program called 'splitz'
20:08.14Noodlemanit was free
20:08.14bzdouggggI want to split a 100 meg database into 10 meg chunks
20:08.20larslYou could get Cygwin, run split, and uninstall Cygwin again. =)
20:08.26bzdouggggNoodleman: hmm
20:08.30bzdougggglarsl: ick
20:08.36bzdougggghmm
20:08.46bzdouggggthey might have a windows compile of split
20:09.02larslWho?
20:09.34bzdougggghmm
20:09.37bzdouggggI forget the name
20:10.07bzdougggghttp://unxutils.sourceforge.net/
20:10.19larslSounds reasonable.
20:10.21[TeA|TrEE]Noooooooooooodle
20:10.31Noodleman[TeA|TrEE]: yes?
20:10.52bzdouggggyay, and it has split!
20:13.31bzdougggghah
20:13.34bzdouggggsimple program
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20:15.19bzdouggggblah, excel has a worksheet size limit...
20:18.58bzdougggghuh, I guess excel has a limit at 65000 columns
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20:19.37larsl65535, probably. =)
20:19.46bzdouggggthats it
20:19.47bzdougggg:)
20:22.24bzdougggghmm
20:22.36bzdouggggits 65536
20:23.26larslNot if you need 0.
20:23.36bzdouggggah
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20:24.55larslSF is slow today...
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20:27.59bzdougggg'lo TimRiker
20:28.18TimRikergggg?
20:28.32bzdoug_:P
20:28.33larslHello, TimRiker.
20:28.39Noodlemangggg = greasy grimy gopher guts
20:28.52bzdoug_Noodleman: lol
20:28.53larslTimRiker: I fixed that bug I reported earlier. Really small patch, I submitted it five minutes ago.
20:31.17bzdoug_drats, how is one supposed to import 600000 addresses in mappoint?
20:31.30larslTyping them by hand? =)
20:31.44bzdoug_bleh
20:31.58Noodlemanwhat formats does it support?
20:32.36bzdoug_Noodleman: excel
20:32.50bzdoug_Noodleman: among other things, but excel is the only choice
20:33.05Noodlemanwhat are the other things?
20:33.14bzdoug_actully, I want to extract all the addresses in Kentucky
20:33.19bzdoug_Noodleman: hmm
20:34.05Noodlemandoes it do SQL?
20:34.07bzdoug_access and text files, but it doesnt support | deliminated data, only comma and tab
20:34.19bzdoug_Noodleman: hmmm, maybe, I think excel does :)
20:34.36bzdoug_mappoint doesnt, but excel does
20:34.36Noodlemanhow big is the file?
20:34.43bzdoug_around 90 megs
20:34.44bzdoug_:P
20:35.01Noodlemanhmm, uploading is out of the question then :-)
20:35.04TimRikerlarsl: thanx! I;ll try it out shortly.
20:35.38bzdoug_Noodleman: bah, and the data isnt sorted by state or anything...
20:35.59bzdoug_Noodleman: I reall wanted to get all the addresses of people in louisville and around those parts..
20:36.35Noodlemanyou _can_ upload it, and i could do up a perl hack to do wha you wanted to do with it
20:37.03bzdoug_cool
20:37.21bzdoug_heres an example line
20:37.43bzdoug_EN|286744|||KA2QET|L||WARD, WILLIAM E|WILLIAM|E|WARD||0000000000||| |SKYLAND|NC|28776|842||000|
20:38.02Noodlemanwhat does it all mean?
20:38.16bzdoug_I need everything that has KY in the state line extracted
20:38.28larslWhere that one says NC?
20:38.40bzdoug_Noodleman: the whole ham radio licence database
20:38.40Noodlemanand you want the |s changed to ,s or tabs?
20:38.50bzdoug_Noodleman: |s are fine
20:39.03bzdoug_Noodleman: kentucky only has like 6000 people total
20:39.06bzdoug_:)
20:39.09Noodlemanok
20:39.09bzdoug_larsl: yea
20:39.12larslgrep KY datafile ?
20:39.25bzdoug_larsl: but theres polish names too...
20:39.48bzdoug_larsl: LENOWSKY
20:39.49bzdoug_:)
20:39.53Noodlemangrep '|KY|' datafile
20:40.01larslYes.
20:40.03bzdoug_Noodleman: ah, lemme try that
20:40.14bzdoug_Noodleman: will that remove each line?
20:40.17bzdoug_er
20:40.22bzdoug_copy that line?
20:40.27larslPrint it.
20:40.50larslAll lines containing |KY| will be printed to stdout, all others ignored.
20:40.55bzdoug_larsl: cool
20:41.02bzdoug_how do I get it to go to a file
20:41.03bzdoug_?
20:41.19Noodlemangrep '|KY|' datafile > outfile
20:41.32bzdoug_ah
20:41.37bzdoug_simple, yet insane!
20:41.39larslDoes that work in the Windows command interpreter?
20:41.46bzdoug_larsl: I think so
20:41.49Noodlemani think so
20:41.53larslOK.
20:42.03bzdoug_great minds think alike
20:42.08Noodlemanhehe
20:42.44bzdoug_'KY' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
20:42.46bzdoug_hmm
20:43.00larslIf you want to be completely sure that there are no mismatches you could use a regexp that matches anything in all the fields except the state field.
20:43.23bzdoug_larsl: ah
20:43.31bzdoug_larsl: but I think this will do once I get it running
20:43.49bzdoug_oh, one problem...
20:44.02bzdoug_I think windows sees | as something to look at
20:44.15larslTry to escape it using \
20:44.22bzdoug_k
20:45.29bzdoug_bah, nope
20:45.31Noodlemandid you put |KY| in quotes?
20:45.37bzdoug_Noodleman: yea
20:45.48bzdoug_woah
20:45.53Noodlemantry single and double
20:45.55TimRikerlarsl: looks great. submitted.
20:45.56bzdoug_' dont work " do
20:45.59bzdoug_:)
20:46.09larslTimRiker: Great! When will you restart xmission?
20:46.22larslTimRiker: I said I wouldn't be back until that bug was fixed. =)
20:46.24bzdoug_Noodleman: its doing something :)
20:46.29Noodlemankewl
20:46.53bzdoug_Noodleman: and its done! thats like 1000000% faster than using excel to rip it apart and put it back together
20:47.13larsl=)
20:47.44bzdoug_Noodleman: ok, how about converting this unix file into a windows file? its got those funny sqaures instead of returns
20:48.23larslbzdoug_: There are programs called dos2unix and unix2dos.
20:48.33larslbzdoug_: unxtools might have them.
20:48.36Noodlemanunix2dos
20:48.38bzdoug_larsl: hmm, thx
20:48.47TimRikeror zip and unzip with -a
20:49.13bzdoug_ah, nope, nothing in unxtools
20:49.20bzdoug_TimRiker: would that work in winzip? :)
20:50.22bzdoug_aha, found it
20:50.31larslhttp://www.bastet.com/software/software.html
20:50.37bzdoug_hah
20:50.38larslbzdoug_: For unix2dos.
20:50.57bzdoug_BEEP
20:51.28bzdoug_cool so now I can make the program grep all the states into seperate files
20:52.18bzdoug_hah, perfect
20:52.30bzdoug_PAINT LICK, KY
20:52.33larslFor that you might want to do some kind of regexp, unless you are sure that the state codes don't appear in any other fields, meaning something else.
20:53.06bzdoug_larsl: yea.. but thats the only field with |<2 letter state>|
20:53.15larslThere's a place called Paint Lick?
20:53.17larslOK.
20:53.26bzdoug_larsl: yup
20:53.42Chestalmaybe we can fix https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=651248&group_id=3248&atid=103248
20:53.59ChestalI can reproduce this at 800x600 with opacity < 1.0
20:54.13bzdoug_Chestal: patches welcome
20:54.17bzdoug_Chestal: ;)
20:56.02bzdoug_bah, silly people put data in the wrong parts though...
20:56.11TimRikerxmission patched and restarted.
20:56.21larslThanks. =)
20:56.26TimRikerlarsl: ...
20:56.31bzdoug_putting the city in the address block, address block in some other thing...
20:56.40TimRikerwant to look into the in box flags?
20:56.55larslIn box flags?
20:57.19TimRikerlanching from above when in a building puts the flags on the building that it is in, without chekcking to see f that is in another building.
20:57.31TimRikerer s/above/below/
20:57.42larslOh, that one.
20:57.45ChestalTim: I increased the tolerance for the speeding kick a lot today. I had no kicks which were caused by more than 2% of speeding, but 2% would probably have been to tight
20:57.59TimRikerI worked around it on the map, but the source should really get fixed.
20:58.07larslI could look at that... do you have the old version of HiX2 to try it on?
20:58.20Chestalgot a lot of dead/v[z]!=0 speeding warnings, though; not quite sure why dead players accelerate
20:58.22TimRikerChestal: I noticed. fine by me. it's updated on xmission.
20:58.58TimRikerwell, I'm fine with overspeed dead people. I can take it. ;-)
20:59.01bzdoug_Chestal: like when you blow up... it sorta blows you forward
20:59.11bzdoug_TimRiker: I couldnt
20:59.16TimRikerheh
21:01.16bzdoug_hmm, we have a Glasgow, london, Hazard, and paris kentucky
21:01.45larslForget what I said, I found the old HiX2 on my computer.
21:02.33TimRikerthe one on SF still has the bug with the X portion, though the base "posts" are "fixed".
21:03.11larslIt seems as if the anonymous CVS is down.
21:04.24TimRikercould be.
21:04.32larslor maybe just very unstable.
21:05.37Chestalcan some peopel please test if they can reproduce the problem that there is not enough space for composing a message at 800x600 (and I think at 1280x1024 with big fonts either)?
21:05.58bzdoug_Chestal: I cant, computer is tied up
21:06.10bzdoug_Chestal: I could cut it loose, but it might get away
21:06.36Chestalif you run windows, it won't get far
21:07.04bzdoug_Chestal: but I use energizer, it keeps going and going and going and going, just slowly
21:07.23larslWhat is the ODESolver used for?
21:07.37bzdoug_DOH! mapoint can only import 10000 addresses at one time...
21:07.40TimRikerChestal: yes, that's true. Does not bug me too much though. you can compose, you just can't see it. ;-)
21:08.09larslTimRiker: Maybe the text should autoscroll while you type.
21:08.20Chestalwell, it's only a glitch but an ugly glitch. I'm usign opacity=1.0, so it doesn't bu gme personaly
21:10.08TimRikerChestal: I think the text could be a touch lower with out going off the edge.
21:10.16bzdoug_Noodleman: HAHAHHA, kentucky is filled with 10000 push pins in map point... :)
21:10.28bzdoug_Noodleman: I should print a screen shot of it... :)
21:11.12ChestalTim: yes, at least 3 pixels at 800x600 I guess
21:12.44bzdoug_Noodleman_work: boo, work! :)
21:13.11Noodleman_workhehe
21:13.31Noodleman_worki'm only here for 2 hours on fridays
21:13.40bzdoug_cool
21:13.43bzdoug_hmm
21:13.53bzdoug_isnt your birthday this week?
21:14.04Noodleman_workit was monday :-P
21:14.10bzdoug_bah
21:14.13bzdoug_you dint say
21:14.14bzdoug_:)
21:14.19bzdoug_~birthday
21:14.23Birthday reminder. URL: http://user.bene.baynet.de/~mschmid/
21:14.25Noodleman_workmy LAN party will be this suday tho
21:14.39Noodleman_workcan you participate?
21:15.06bzdoug_Noodleman_work: I can try :)
21:15.15bzdoug_Noodleman_work: what time?
21:15.44Noodleman_workhmm
21:15.57Noodleman_worksometime between 3 and 6 pacific :-)
21:16.04bzdoug_hmm
21:16.12bzdoug_that would be....
21:16.20bzdoug_~convert 3 PST to EST
21:16.34bzdoug_darn, dint think it would
21:16.56bzdoug_5 EST?
21:17.07bzdoug_ick
21:17.20bzdoug_I would problebly miss it
21:17.28larslAck, I checked out and compiled 1.8 instead of 1.7. =P
21:17.42bzdoug_larsl: how does it run?
21:17.43bzdoug_:)
21:17.54larslI don't know, I deleted it 5 seconds ago. =)
21:18.05bzdoug_haha
21:18.45larslWhat's the tag name for 1.7? v1_7?
21:18.52bzdoug_I think so
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21:19.36larslSeems to work.
21:20.53larslI need some dinner and TV before the bug hunt.
21:20.59bzdoug_lol
21:21.17bzdoug_se... sweedoon?
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21:21.34[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
21:21.39larsl~country .se
21:21.40i heard country .se is sweden
21:21.40[TeA|TrEE]~ducati
21:21.45[TeA|TrEE]~ducati6
21:21.47ChestalTim: I guess changing dy in HUDRenderer.cxx in context of composing is the thign to change
21:21.56ChestalTim: maybe +2 or +1 instead of +4?
21:22.02[TeA|TrEE]hey Ches
21:22.11Chestalhi T
21:22.21ChestalI thnk AJax was lookign for the Zees
21:22.43[TeA|TrEE]i just sended a messige per ciq
21:22.46[TeA|TrEE]icq
21:23.15TimRikerChestal: I think I've got it fixed and removed some wasted code too.
21:23.51TimRikerthere are two setposition calls, I left the resize and removed from the other.
21:24.42TimRikercommited. try it out.
21:26.25[TeA|TrEE]~ducati
21:26.30[TeA|TrEE]ajax and fanta
21:26.31bzdoug_kaboom goes the router
21:26.35[TeA|TrEE]should be there
21:26.35[TeA|TrEE];)
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21:27.11dougheckagreetings
21:28.39ChestalTim: at 1280x1024 with big fonts, the label is off the screen to the left
21:29.16dougheckahttp://heck.no-ip.com/ham/KY.htm
21:29.20dougheckacan you get to that?
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21:30.23doughecka'lo MrApathyCream
21:30.34dougheckahows skool goin?
21:31.43dougheckafine, just run away will a
21:32.53TimRikerChestal: hmm. yep. having it only in resize() means it does not take multiple prompts into account. changing...
21:35.34dougheckahttp://heck.no-ip.com/ham/all-KY.htm :) 10000 address I have mapped now
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21:48.47Noodleman_workdoughecka: that map is silly
21:48.49Noodleman_work:-P
21:51.09TimRikerugh... menu: option spacing and compose: text spacing are intertwined.
21:51.36Chestaluh? I don't get this
21:51.42Chestalplease rephrase
21:53.33TimRikerthe menus have the "item: * option"  uses the same code that compose does. both use fontHeight instead of fontWidth for width spacing. I'm reworking it.
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22:06.38dougheckaNoodleman_work: why silly? :)
22:06.43TimRikerugh what a mess...
22:07.51Chestaldon't make it worse :_)
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22:22.36BaDiNyo
22:22.41doughecka'lo
22:23.54BaDiNgonna shoot some tanks
22:23.55BaDiNcya
22:24.15dougheckagood.. luck!
22:31.19Noodleman_work"sir, do yo uknow what an icon is?"
22:31.44Noodleman_worki just got a tech support call
22:31.52Noodleman_worki had to ask that question :-/
22:32.37larslWhat is the height of the lowest ceiling that a tank can still drive under?
22:32.46Noodleman_work0.01
22:32.48Noodleman_work:-)
22:32.56larslOh, right. Forgot that.
22:33.14larslIs it allowed to put flags on a box if the distance to the box above is 0.01?
22:33.40Noodleman_worka tank is 2.08 tall
22:34.03Noodleman_worklarsl: it is if you specifiy -fb
22:34.40larslNoodleman_work: OK, thanks. I'm trying to fix a flag bug in the CVS version, and I wanted to make sure that my fix won't cause any problems.
22:35.12Noodleman_work"flag bug"
22:35.18Noodleman_worki like the sound of that :-)
22:36.09larslIs there any function to find the first box above a given point?
22:36.20larslOr do I have to write the search code myself?
22:38.21TimRikerwell too much space between the label and the text, but try that. (/me waits for the commit)
22:39.02TimRikerlarsl: if the tank can drive there, then I suppose yes. It should not be though.
22:39.40TimRikerI think the space should be the height that a flag is thrown.
22:40.06TimRikerso if there is not enough space to throw it and have it land there, then flags should no land there.
22:40.26larslOK, that makes sense.
22:40.31TimRikercourse that means they go through the building above which is not cool either.
22:40.48TimRikerhmm.
22:40.58TimRikerso perhaps I'll reverse that.
22:41.08TimRikerif the tank can be there, the flag can land there.
22:41.20larslOK.
22:41.25larslThat should be easy.
22:41.33larslWhat happens if there is a pyramid at the top?
22:41.43larslWhere does the flag go then?
22:41.48TimRikerflags flying through buildings is less of a problem than going up to the next building.
22:42.11TimRiker0,0,0 if it lands on a pyramid or another teams base.
22:42.27larslOK, that sounds good.
22:42.45TimRikermight make more sense to just respawn the flag if it's not a team flag.
22:43.18TimRikerand team flags go to the team "safe" spot, which is always 0,0,0 currently.
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22:45.40dougheckagreetings
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22:48.41TimRikerChestal: tell me if/when you test and what you think. the menu spacing is a touch worse with the yellow ball being in not quite the right place sometimes.
22:49.12TimRikerthe whole thing needs reworking, but I think current CVS is tolerable.
22:50.07[TeA|TrEE]hello
22:50.22Noodleman_workspam, spam, spam, spam
22:50.22Noodleman_workhormel's new miracle meat in a cat!
22:50.22Noodleman_worksaves time, tastes fine
22:50.22Noodleman_workto eat something grand as for spam!
22:50.30[TeA|TrEE]lol
22:53.10dougheckalol
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22:53.34doughecka50 watt transmitters make funny shows on the monitors
22:53.43[TeA|TrEE]~ducatictf
22:53.58TimRikerin a "can" I presume, not a "cat"
22:54.14dougheckalol
23:10.22larslTimRiker: I think I have fixed it now - do you want to see it in action or should I just submit the patch?
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23:42.31jzaunok, why is it no matter the server I join, 2-3 sec. after starting to play, every one goes NR. they flash back to normal every now and again for a sec or two, but its always back to NR
23:42.45larslTimRiker: Patch submitted (695367).
23:43.11larsljzaun: Bad connection?
23:43.21larslThe UDP packages might get lost.
23:43.54jzaunlarsl: 56k, same as I used before without the issue. at most on heavy servers (6+ players) I would lag, but noone went NR
23:45.10larsljzaun: Maybe your ISP replaced a cable somewhere, or something like that.
23:45.30Jormungandrit does sound like UDP is getting lost somewhere
23:45.47Jormungandrthat's common when there are network problems, because UDP doesn't try to retransmit packets.
23:45.49Jormungandrtcp does
23:46.11Jormungandrso you won't notice problems on tcp, but will see them right away on udp.
23:46.15jzaunWhat all goes over ucp/tcp
23:46.28Jormungandrudp is used for non-essensial traffic
23:46.39Jormungandrping can use eituer
23:46.40Jormungandreither
23:46.46Jormungandra lot of streaming media uses udp
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23:47.10Jormungandranything that counts on every packet arriving uses TCP, like mail and web, etc.
23:47.13jzauneh, ment in bzf
23:47.27Jormungandrah.. I think the connection is made with tcp, and all the data goes over udp
23:47.38ChestalTim: will try
23:48.12larsljzaun: You can turn off UDP, but I don't think that any of the major servers will allow that.
23:48.32larsljzaun: Sending all game data over TCP is safer but slower (more lag).
23:48.35Jormungandryeah.. and if udp isn't working, it's an indication of a much larger issue.
23:48.39jzaunhmm, just seems straings that in a months time that my connection goes to crud. everything else by bzf seems to work though
23:49.11Jormungandrjzaun, cover all the stuff on your end... rebooting and reconnecting, etc.
23:49.18Jormungandrthen call your ISP.
23:49.29Jormungandrtell them you are dropping a lot of udp packets.
23:49.35larsljzaun: Maybe you got connected to a bad modem on the ISP side.
23:49.44Jormungandr<PROTECTED>
23:50.01Jormungandr~bzflist
23:50.17Jormungandr~dragon
23:50.54jzaunwill try
23:51.01larsl~ibot
23:51.02from memory, ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage.
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23:51.25larslIs there a list of commands?
23:52.02jzaunlagstats is reporting me at a 0ms (0)
23:52.10dougheckalol
23:52.23larsljzaun: That's probably because you haven't been killed.
23:52.39larsljzaun: I think it updates the lag when you die.
23:52.43jzaunI gotta die before stats work?
23:52.48jzaunok.. will try again
23:52.49dougheckahaha
23:53.50Chestalno, it updates it every 10s while you're active
23:53.50jzaundied twice, same report
23:53.56Chestalfor older versons whenever you kill someone
23:54.21jzauncvs hasen't broaken the protocol yet, has it? :-)
23:54.25Chestalno
23:54.27dougheckalol
23:54.37jzaunjust checking :-)
23:54.55dougheckanever know
23:55.48JormungandrI think the problem is upd, jzaun, because you weren't showing any lagstats at al.
23:55.49Jormungandrall
23:55.57Jormungandrbut I saw you shoot yourself :)
23:56.52jzaunok, let me reconenct
23:59.19stibnitewasn't there a nick like '[blah]LTD' in here that flooded the channel in recent days?
23:59.31stibniteif anybody has logs, could i get a peek at them?
23:59.42Chestal~logs
23:59.43http://ibot.rikers.org/<channelname>/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/<channelname>.html.gz

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