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01:15.35Noodlemanyes! stage 1 is complete
01:16.15dougheckaWOO!!!! HAHAHAH WOO!!!
01:31.20Noodlemanit took at least 4 hours
01:31.27Noodleman800 mhz
01:31.42Noodlemanit'scompiling stage 2 now
01:32.09Noodleman~lart doughecka
01:32.21Noodlemaninsult doughecka
01:32.38Noodlemanack! where's noodlebot?!
01:32.59Noodlemanspeak to me noodlebot!
01:33.05Noodlemanhehe
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01:56.18Noodlemaninsult Noodlebot
01:56.18NoodlebotNoodlebot, you speak an infinite deal of nothing.
01:56.23Noodlemanok
01:56.25Noodleman:-)
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02:02.50Noodlemaninsult Noodlebot
02:02.50Noodlebotthou hast not so much brain as earwax, Noodlebot.
02:02.57Noodlemanok
02:03.33Noodlemannow it autoflushes to stdout instead of waiting for the buffer to fill up
02:12.29dougheckalol
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03:12.04_mUNGo_hmm
03:13.03[meq]tankensteincan someone try to connect to a world for my by any chance? I'm in the process of building it and i'm curious if its my local connection thats the problem or the world file itself? l8tr.ath.cx
03:13.53[meq]tankensteinhmm not showing in the list now either
03:19.55[meq]tankensteinmasfratsaratszafratz
03:41.15[meq]tankensteinhmm
03:41.18[meq]tankensteinthere must be a bug somewhere
03:41.39[meq]tankensteinseems when I cover say 98% of the field with a box on the ground the client won't start
03:41.57[meq]tankensteinsays error connecting
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03:46.26[meq]tankensteinhmm
03:46.57[meq]tankensteincan anyone tell me what version is in cvs? is it 1.7+
03:47.24Jormungandr1_7
03:47.40Jormungandrthat's how it's done in cvs.
03:47.54[meq]tankensteinah so bzflag1_7?
03:47.57[meq]tankensteinor co 1_7
03:48.09[meq]tankensteinI browsed the tree and didn't see a 1_7
03:48.32Jormungandrco -r v1_7 bzflag
03:48.39[meq]tankensteinthanks
03:48.42Jormungandrnp
03:48.44[meq]tankensteinI must be compiling 1.8
03:49.01JormungandrI thought 1.8 was completely scrapped.
03:49.47[meq]tankensteindunno
03:49.54[meq]tankensteinI haven't kept up
03:49.57JormungandrI'm pretty sure it was. :)
03:50.09[meq]tankensteinsomeone said it was tho v1_7 is checking out
03:50.13JormungandrI think we are at 1.7g1 now
03:50.15[meq]tankensteinso I dunno what co bzflag is then
03:50.26[meq]tankensteinI wonder why they scrapped it
03:50.30[meq]tankensteinseems like they did alot of work on it
03:51.11Jormungandrnot certain.
03:52.15Jormungandrit seemed like there were a lot of big fixes in 1.7 that weren't being kept up with in 1.8 and something about the 1.8 tree being corrupted or broken or something.
03:52.27JormungandrI don't quite recall.
03:52.32[meq]tankensteinyeah it had alot of new stuffs tho
03:52.38[meq]tankensteinheh
03:52.45Jormungandrsome will be converted over, in time, I think.
03:53.05[meq]tankensteinhmm this world file is pissin me off
03:53.15[meq]tankensteinJormungandr: you running 1.7g whatever?
03:53.20[meq]tankensteincan you test someting for me?
03:53.26Jormungandrsure.  
03:53.42JormungandrI have a newer mac client compile.
03:53.47Jormungandrnot super new though.
03:53.51[meq]tankensteinah hmm
03:53.57[meq]tankensteinprobably has the same issue
03:54.03Jormungandrwhat's the problem?
03:54.17[meq]tankensteincan't cover the field with a block almost completely
03:54.28[meq]tankensteinseems I gotta leave a sizeable portion uncovered
03:54.31Jormungandrwhat happens?
03:54.34[meq]tankensteintho I know i've done so in the past
03:54.39[meq]tankensteinerror loading world
03:54.50Jormungandrdoesn't say what error is?
03:55.36[meq]tankensteinsorry error connecting to server
03:55.53[meq]tankensteinstyle: 2e
03:55.53[meq]tankenstein<PROTECTED>
03:55.53[meq]tankenstein<PROTECTED>
03:55.53[meq]tankenstein<PROTECTED>
03:55.54[meq]tankenstein<PROTECTED>
03:55.56Jormungandrso the error is on the client side, not the server side/
03:55.56[meq]tankensteinLooking up host name: Unknown host
03:55.58[meq]tankensteinlooks like it locks the server too
03:56.01Jormungandrhrm.
03:56.05[meq]tankensteinnot sure where it is
03:56.09Jormungandris it a CTF world?
03:56.14[meq]tankensteinno
03:57.03[meq]tankensteini'll see if it works with the 1.7g whatever
03:57.48[meq]tankensteinhmm
03:57.53[meq]tankensteinwonder if my old world still works
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04:07.24[meq]tankensteinhmm
04:07.27[meq]tankensteindidn't fix the problem
04:07.30[meq]tankensteinmust be a server bug
04:39.04Patlabor221wow good book
04:46.06captain_protonwow
04:46.07captain_protontankenstein
04:46.11captain_protonyou're alive
04:49.36[meq]tankensteinyeah
04:49.37[meq]tankensteinheh
04:49.40[meq]tankensteinhow goes it cap
04:50.18[meq]tankensteinsaw freelancer on my server today
04:50.27[meq]tankensteindidn't know they're doing 2 on 2 ctf matches
04:50.31[meq]tankensteinthat was a good move
04:51.08[meq]tankensteinthis linux vm sucks
04:51.27[meq]tankensteini brb
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05:26.45dougheckagreetings
05:33.24Patlabor221sup dood
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06:41.33[meq]tankensteinhmm any map builders here?
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08:49.00[meq]tankensteinanyone know the ratio on pyramids to keep solid?
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09:12.53[meq]tankensteinhmm
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09:16.05[dmp]hmm.
09:16.06[dmp]top - 07:58:19 up 17 days,  8:12,  4 users,  load average: 83.22, 94.20, 88.78
09:16.06[dmp]Tasks: 313 total,  35 running, 265 sleeping,   0 stopped,  13 zombie
09:16.06[dmp]Cpu(s):   1.2% user,  91.9% system,   0.0% nice,   6.8% idle
09:16.06[dmp]Mem:    127516k total,   111876k used,    15640k free,      496k buffers
09:16.06[dmp]Swap:   506036k total,   505964k used,       72k free,     5572k cached
09:16.10[dmp]:-\
09:16.17[dmp]1: spawn apache child
09:16.26[dmp]2: kernel: killed it, out of memory
09:16.28[dmp]3: goto 1
09:16.41[dmp]result: locked up computer :-\
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11:30.15ak|rahi
11:45.52[dmp]hi ak|ra
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14:53.25prodanibot seen TEA
14:53.28i haven't seen 'tea', prodan
14:53.38doughecka~seen santa
14:53.38santa <~jupiter@12-253-125-169.client.attbi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #picogui, 81d 12h 13m 37s ago, saying: 'file: yeah, but i did it fedex, so it won't show up until april'.
14:54.10prodan~seen tea
14:54.10i haven't seen 'tea', prodan
14:54.17prodan~seen TEA
14:54.17i haven't seen 'tea', prodan
14:54.28doughecka~seen [tea|tree]
14:54.28[tea|tree] <~trillian@pD9E96A40.dip.t-dialin.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 18h 47m 15s ago, saying: '~ducatictf'.
14:54.45prodanthx
14:54.58doughecka:)
14:55.06prodanwhere do i get help on cmds like ~seen
14:55.15doughecka<PROTECTED>
14:55.21prodangroan
14:55.25doughecka:P
14:55.43prodan~help ~help
14:55.51dougheckalol
14:56.13prodan~help doesnt work
14:56.27prodangrin
14:56.38dougheckalol
14:57.17prodan~help
14:58.28prodanis ~seen an alias for ibot seen?
14:58.39dougheckayeah
14:58.50doughecka~ is an alias for ibot
15:00.48prodan~ducati
15:01.07prodannot true
15:01.34prodanhow do i find out what ~ducati is aliased to?
15:02.03doughecka~literal ducati
15:02.04ducati is <reply> see bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:5155
15:02.09dougheckahmm
15:02.51prodan~literal bzfquery
15:03.21Jormungandrbzfquery is a command, not alias. :)
15:03.39prodanah, but not a cmd listed with help
15:03.47Jormungandrit's new
15:03.53Jormungandror newer, anyway.
15:04.04dougheckayup
15:04.04Jormungandrblootbot documentation is lagging a bit.
15:04.04prodanhow do i learn about new things
15:04.30dougheckaUSE THE SOURCE!
15:04.33Jormungandr:)
15:04.40JormungandrI was just going to suggest that.
15:04.46dougheckalol
15:04.54Jormungandrsearch for "blootbot" on sourceforge.
15:05.02Jormungandrthere is a little documentation there.
15:05.04Jormungandrnot much.
15:05.16JormungandrI had to poke around a lot to learn about my blootbot.
15:05.30prodanapt-get source -t very-unstable blootbotsource-dougs-version ?
15:05.44dougheckaayup ayup ayup
15:05.44doughecka:P
15:06.39JormungandrI'd still like to see blootbot do degrees F to degrees C conversions.
15:06.48dougheckaheh
15:06.52dougheckapatches welcome
15:07.10JormungandrI have some old blue jean patches somewhere.
15:07.15prodanwhere is the source?
15:07.21dougheckasf.net
15:07.22Jormungandrsourceforge
15:07.24doughecka~who are you
15:07.25methinks ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage.
15:07.33dougheckaPRESTO!
15:07.57prodangosch
15:07.58dougheckaping..
15:08.18prodandoh
15:08.23dougheckalol
15:09.19prodananybody ported blootbot to the sharp zaurus?
15:09.32dougheckawhat ever for?
15:10.02prodanfun
15:10.09dougheckahuh
15:12.43dougheckabah
15:13.09dougheckaall the palm pilots that have rechargable batterys builtin are also color, or expensive
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15:24.29doughecka'lo patlabor221, ehm, fine, leave
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15:26.43dougheckaMOOMOO MAN!
15:29.06prodanchestal, cheater knight on ducati
15:29.20dougheckayay
15:29.28prodancan jump as if lag
15:29.36dougheckakewl
15:34.40prodanfor those using Deutsche Telekom DSL: there is an option (1euro/moninterleave) to turn off interleave errorcorr which will lead to better ping rates.
15:35.16prodans/interleave/th/
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16:08.12doughecka'lo Patlabor2211
16:08.31Patlabor2211sup
16:08.52dougheckaebayin
16:09.26Patlabor2211for?
16:09.50dougheckacheap palm pilots that have rechargable batterys
16:10.06dougheckaor a cheap pocket PC
16:10.12dougheckabelow 50 bucks
16:10.24Patlabor2211that's gonna be tough
16:10.30dougheckayup
16:10.44dougheckalots of palm IIIs though... :) like 30 bucks
16:11.11Patlabor2211what  is wrong with that?
16:11.29dougheckadont want to buy hundreds of batterys
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16:11.41[TeA|TrEE]huhu
16:11.56Patlabor2211so get rechargeables for it
16:12.39dougheckaPatlabor2211: yea.... but I shall try using my current windows CE pda first, if that doesnt work, then I will get a palm III or V and a serial cable
16:13.10Patlabor2211ick serial = slow
16:13.22Patlabor2211usb = pimpdaddy
16:13.46dougheckaI want to use the serial for talking to hardware
16:13.52dougheckanot syncing
16:14.03Patlabor2211ahhh
16:15.59Patlabor2211how are the guns working out?
16:16.00dougheckacaptain_proton: hmm, USB would be nice, but PDAs dont support being in a host mode
16:16.10captain_protonPatlabor2211: ok
16:16.12[TeA|TrEE]muhahha such nice match yesterday
16:17.49[TeA|TrEE]captain_proton: hmm what happend with tankenstein nowP?
16:20.29[TeA|TrEE]Chestal: wie wärs das es mal ein neues symbol gibt in der league , ab 1500 punkte z.B.?
16:20.35captain_proton[TeA|TrEE]: dunno
16:20.38captain_protonbah
16:20.42captain_protonwtf does doughecka know about PICs?
16:21.00dougheckacaptain_proton: they use very little power, and are great TNCs
16:23.02captain_protonbut you don't know either of the langauges you'd need to program them
16:23.14captain_protonand i doubt you understand the architecture
16:23.21dougheckaI dont need to program them
16:23.28dougheckabut I still find them cool
16:24.24captain_protonif they're not programmed, how do you use them?
16:24.27dougheckayou find space shuttles are cool, but I doubt you know how they build them
16:24.31dougheckacaptain_proton: pre programmed
16:24.52Patlabor2211he makes them into earings
16:24.57Patlabor2211and broaches
16:25.13Patlabor2211ohh a space shuttle would not be that hard to make
16:25.30dougheckaPatlabor2211: its "only" rocket science
16:26.16Patlabor2211only the rocket part
16:26.27Patlabor2211and they are using tech from the 70's
16:26.38dougheckaspace station then
16:26.52Patlabor2211hell they take laptops up there to work with cus it don't have enough cpu power
16:27.03Patlabor2211you mean a resuriesd can?
16:27.23Patlabor2211that thing is using stuff from the 80's at the latest
16:27.28Patlabor2211it's the 21st century
16:27.37Patlabor2211where are the flying cars
16:27.38Patlabor2211?
16:27.47Patlabor2211I was promised flying cars!
16:27.53Patlabor2211I don't see them
16:27.59dougheckain his mind
16:28.04dougheckareally tiny one
16:28.55Patlabor2211oh Cap, I know you liked the music for the .hack// anime
16:29.06Patlabor2211did you want to see the origonal anime?
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16:29.39ak|racaptain_proton: nice work in jetstream with nuppelvideo
16:29.57ak|racaptain_proton: minihinit -> dont call the snapshot *.bz2 if its a *.gz
16:30.02captain_protonPatlabor2211: yes!
16:30.29Patlabor2211bakadigital.com/darkmoor/movie/
16:30.42Patlabor2211the first one has been ripped in there
16:30.52Patlabor2211RahXephon1.avi is prety good too
16:30.55Patlabor2211nice music
16:31.05Patlabor2211show seems to be based on music.
16:32.03prodantea
16:32.20prodanTEA
16:32.25prodanhallo
16:32.34captain_protonak|ra: where?
16:32.39prodantea where
16:32.48prodani want tea now
16:33.03prodanhave to go
16:33.17[TeA|TrEE]prodan: huhuuuuuuuuuuuuu
16:33.24prodantea: reg t-dsl ping rates checkout www.golem.de
16:33.34[TeA|TrEE]huh?
16:33.42prodannbesseres ping für ducati
16:33.51[TeA|TrEE]ja weis ich schob
16:33.53[TeA|TrEE]:D
16:33.57prodandoh
16:33.58[TeA|TrEE]kauf ich mir auch
16:33.59prodannok
16:34.05prodanlater
16:34.08[TeA|TrEE]hehe schon von Ginku seit gestern
16:34.32prodannmuss rennen, tschuess
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16:36.25ak|rasnapshot in the downloadsection
16:36.29ak|racaptain_proton: ->
16:36.40captain_protonah
16:36.43ak|rahttp://jetstream.babylonia.flatirons.org/download/jetstream-snapshot-20021212.tar.bz2
16:37.10captain_protonthere we go
16:38.49[TeA|TrEE]ak|ra: sag nochmal die eine site
16:38.55[TeA|TrEE]ak|ra: www.geizhals.de?
16:39.35ak|racaptain_proton: jetstream depend on sdl?
16:39.38ak|ra[TeA|TrEE]: .at/d
16:39.40ak|ra[TeA|TrEE]: .at/de
16:39.43captain_protonak|ra: yeah
16:39.48ak|raok
16:40.07captain_protonak|ra: although with the embedded pgserver its easy to hand it your own gl context
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17:01.15dougheckahttp://tycho.usno.navy.mil/leap.html
17:03.41ak|racaptain_proton: i am thinking about an externel nuppeloglgrabber...
17:04.10ak|rasomething like nuppelgl -wid WINID -seconds 100 -o file.nup
17:04.44captain_protonak|ra: that won't work *too* well
17:05.02ak|ra:)
17:05.09ak|rawith shared memory perhaps :)
17:05.21captain_protonak|ra: you sorta need to control the clock down to 1/30s to get good video
17:05.37ak|raof coz
17:05.56ak|rabut i do not see any other good solution to use nuppel
17:11.53[TeA|TrEE]a
17:12.09[TeA|TrEE]ak|ra: also geizhals ist super da kann man sich echt was sparen
17:12.32[TeA|TrEE]ak|ra: den hier kauf ich mir warscheinlich jetzt http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/?a=39720
17:13.02Noodlemanhttp://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article09-100
17:13.19captain_protonak|ra: i bet if you shared-library-ized nuppel they'd LGPL it
17:13.24doughecka'lo Noodleman
17:13.42ak|ra[TeA|TrEE]: zuviel geld? :)
17:13.56ak|ra[TeA|TrEE]: aber was sind schon 200 euro im vergleich zum promarkt :))
17:14.00Noodleman'lo doughecka
17:14.11dougheckaNoodleman: whatzat say?
17:14.14ak|racaptain_proton: perhaps .. i will make a try first here
17:14.28dougheckahttp://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.annoyances.org%2Fexec%2Fshow%2Farticle09-100&langpair=de%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
17:14.33Noodlemandoughecka: read it :-)
17:14.53captain_protonak|ra: the biggest issue i can see is that it would be difficult to synchronize an external video recorder
17:15.01ak|racaptain_proton: me too
17:15.10dougheckaThe PalmPilot is not for gefingerpoken and mittengrabben. Easy scratch if the Screene is, zappen RAM, and droppen smashen.
17:15.15ak|racaptain_proton: but on an dual proz perhaps not :)
17:15.52[TeA|TrEE]ak|ra: ist schon nen ding
17:16.08dougheckalol
17:17.13[TeA|TrEE]ak|ra: also ich häng hier schon mit nem Gateaway2000 bildschirm rum 15`also komm ... davon 2 und das ca. 5 jahre
17:17.26[TeA|TrEE]Gateway
17:17.39ak|ra[TeA|TrEE]: und ich hab immo nen 14zoeller und nu halt die klappe :)
17:18.20ak|racaptain_proton: i think they will lgpl it ... i could discuss stuff with the man in german :) he is from austria
17:26.00[TeA|TrEE]ak|ra: 14 zoller stinkt haesslich
17:26.07ak|raja, genau
17:26.12[TeA|TrEE]ak|ra: da passt du zu den moles *grins*
17:26.17ak|radeswegen bet ich fuer den tag, wo der iiyama reinkommt
17:26.30ak|ra[TeA|TrEE]: ich bin heute abend vielleicht nochmal an der uni -> kleines trainingsduell=
17:26.32[TeA|TrEE]ak|ra: 15 zoller auch nich viel besser
17:26.43[TeA|TrEE]ak|ra: gegen mich?
17:31.47ak|ragegen /dev/null ?
17:31.51ak|rana klar gegen dich
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17:49.18[TeA|TrEE]ak|ra: da *grins* woher weist du noch da /dev/null?
17:51.21[TeA|TrEE]~ducati6
17:55.00[TeA|TrEE]ak|ra?
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17:58.42bzgirlhello
17:58.44doughecka'lo
17:59.20Noodlemanhttp://www.annoyances.org/exec/show/article09-115
18:00.32dougheckalol
18:02.04[TeA|TrEE]hello Angie
18:02.20bzgirlhello Nicky :0
18:02.46bzgirl[TeA|TrEE]: did you play in the match against blitz?
18:02.53bzgirl25-0?
18:03.03[TeA|TrEE]yep
18:03.05[TeA|TrEE]:o)
18:03.07bzgirlhmm
18:03.14[TeA|TrEE]a bit hardcore
18:03.20[TeA|TrEE]i had a softhart actually
18:03.21[TeA|TrEE]:)
18:03.32bzgirli thought maybe you shouldnt have run up the score
18:03.41[TeA|TrEE]:o)
18:03.42bzgirlagainst a new team
18:06.31[TeA|TrEE]hmm
18:09.57[TeA|TrEE]~ducati6
18:10.37Noodlemanmoo
18:11.19dougheckaquack
18:11.32Noodlemanthere can't be anybody who doesn't like cows
18:11.41Noodleman:-P
18:11.44dougheckalol
18:11.52Noodlemani sure do like cows
18:11.55dougheckaI bet theres people that milk them that hate cows
18:12.08Noodlemani don't milk cows
18:12.15Noodlemanthat's prolly why i like them
18:12.46dougheckalol
18:13.28*** topic/#bzflag by ibot -> Best Free Multiplayer Action Game http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 || http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.bzflag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.bzflag.org/ is back || "I don't know what happened, but we seem to have taken on a lot of clocks" || i sure do like cows (noodleman)
18:13.44dougheckahehe
18:14.02*** topic/#bzflag by ibot -> Best Free Multiplayer Action Game http://happypenguin.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=549 || http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.bzflag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.bzflag.org/ is back || "I don't know what happened, but we seem to have taken on a lot of clocks" || "i sure do like cows" (noodleman)
18:14.10Noodlemanhehe
18:15.57dougheckaNoodleman: drivers for linux for packet radio for ham radio... :P http://www.febo.com/packet/linux-ax25/
18:16.10dougheckatux and penguin meet
18:16.13dougheckaer
18:16.16dougheckatux and ham meet
18:16.44Noodlemanso you can network over ham radio?
18:16.47Noodlemanit that it?
18:16.49dougheckayup
18:16.51dougheckaTCP/IP
18:16.52doughecka:)
18:16.54Noodlemankewl
18:16.57dougheckavery
18:17.17dougheckawould require a linux box though..
18:17.25dougheckaall the windows programs cost money
18:17.25Noodlemandoi!
18:17.26doughecka:(
18:17.50dougheckaNoodleman: is it possible to access the serial port directly with perl?
18:18.19Noodlemanopen (CUA0, ">/dev/cua0");
18:18.26dougheckacool
18:18.53ak|rahi bzgirl
18:19.36dougheckaNoodleman: how hard would it be to make a way to use packet through a modem with perl?
18:19.56dougheckaNoodleman: theres a mode that most modems support called KISS... ;)
18:20.05Noodlemandoughecka: could you please rephrase that?
18:20.14dougheckahmm
18:20.31bzgirlhi ak|ra
18:20.49dougheckaperl>serial port>modem>packet>radio>
18:21.00Noodlemani don't know
18:21.03Noodlemantry it :-)
18:21.08dougheckalol
18:21.19Noodlemanask #perl
18:21.45Noodlemanthat might be helpful to know perl ;-)
18:21.49dougheckaloll
18:21.51dougheckaor...
18:22.04dougheckairc>perl>serial port>modem>packet>radio :)
18:22.13Noodlemanhehe
18:22.19dougheckaOR!
18:22.41dougheckaICQ/AIM/yahoo/MSN/irc>perl>serial port>modem>packet>radio>
18:22.59Noodlemanyou've got some research to do :-P
18:23.07dougheckayup
18:23.50[TeA|TrEE]19:09] <Noodleman> there can't be anybody who doesn't like cows ----->
18:24.02[TeA|TrEE]ibot, [TeA|TrEE]?
18:24.02you are, like, the cow who cried moo
18:24.03Noodlemanhehehe
18:24.16[TeA|TrEE]:D
18:24.32doughecka~sussudiooo
18:24.33the cow that went oink
18:24.42dougheckaNoodleman: http://www.tawg.org/icqserv.htm
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18:24.54dougheckaNoodleman: would be neat to hook that up to IRC :P
18:24.58dougheckaTimRiker!!!!
18:25.11dougheckaTimRiker: 'lo, hello, greetings, salutations, patches welcome!
18:25.20dougheckahmm, howed that get in there?
18:25.39[TeA|TrEE]TimRiker: Hello Big BZFlag Devoloper Master Rocker Chief ...
18:39.34TimRikerhook what up to IRC?
18:39.44dougheckapacket
18:39.56doughecka:)
18:40.23dougheckaTimRiker: AX-25
18:40.48dougheckawith perl
18:42.00dougheckaTimRiker: like X-25, but over the radio :P
18:42.17TimRikerahh.. packet radio. yes. slow, but reliable. ;-)
18:43.14dougheckaTimRiker: yup, I was wondering how easy it would be to make a perl program that would work on a windows box, that would convert packet data coming into the serial port, into TCP/IP traffic, and visa-versa
18:44.34TimRikerdoughecka: there is direct support for IP over X-25 right in the linux kernel.
18:44.56TimRikerer AX-25
18:45.14dougheckaTimRiker: yea... but I dont want to setup a linux box just for AX-25... and windows programs costs money if you want TCP/IP support :)
18:45.32[TeA|TrEE]~ducati6
18:47.15ak|rabye all
18:47.18TimRikerdoughecka: just get a cheap x86 box, install linux, and set it up as the router.
18:47.35dougheckaTimRiker: hrm
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18:47.54dougheckaTimRiker: I could do that, but I am also gonna use the modem for other things too. :)
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18:48.59dougheckabut how easy is it to get wireless PCMCIA support in linux?
18:49.13TimRikereasy on most cards.
18:49.22dougheckaah, ok...
18:50.16Celloh we have wireless lan on campus
18:51.00Cell:)
18:55.32Celli want to get the polygons hit by a ray fast out of all polys that compose a surface, i thought about putting the polys in a has table an using the x,y,z positions of the poly center as a key but that does not help me to get the polys hit by the ray, ... hm
18:55.42captain_protonewww
18:55.43captain_protonwince
18:55.50dougheckacaptain_proton: or palm
18:56.05dougheckacaptain_proton: but palms are expensive if they include a built in battery
18:56.54dougheckacaptain_proton: if you can show me a linux PDA that has a full RS-232 port and a way to compile apps for it...
18:57.23dougheckaand a built-in keyboard
18:57.24doughecka:)
18:57.37dougheckaAND under 50 dollers :P
18:57.52Celltryed ebay
18:57.53captain_protonhmm
18:57.58dougheckayup
18:57.59captain_protondoughecka: you want db9 i'm guessing
18:58.06dougheckacaptain_proton: yes.
18:58.48dougheckacaptain_proton: but I can use it if they have a nice little dongle that gives me a db9 connector :)
18:59.46dougheckabut the point is that I want something really small, and can run for extended periods of time (4 hours)
19:01.44dougheckawindows CE is the best thing out there for this kind of job :)
19:02.02captain_protonugh no it isn't
19:02.35dougheckawhat is then?
19:02.42captain_protonlinux
19:03.37dougheckado they have a PDA that has all the above?
19:03.42dougheckaand is cheap?
19:03.43doughecka:)
19:05.05dougheckazaurus's are expensive
19:05.49captain_protondoughecka: you could get an old laptop
19:06.02dougheckayea...
19:06.10dougheckaI have one of those
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19:09.22scanlinezauruses are a lot cheaper than they used to be
19:09.27scanlineI've seen them on ebay for around $150
19:09.30dougheckayea.
19:09.43scanlineand if you want to go really really cheap, you could get a VTech Helio for about $10 :)
19:09.46dougheckawhats a grayscale model number?
19:09.57dougheckascanline: I saw one of those on beya
19:10.00dougheckaebay*
19:10.19dougheckascanline: what ARE they? I never heard of them, exept vtech as a kids toy maker
19:10.29scanlineit's a PDA
19:10.45scanline75MHz MIPS cpu, 8MB DRAM, 2MB flash, 160x160 grayscale touchscreen
19:10.51dougheckahmm
19:10.56dougheckaruns linux?
19:11.06scanlineyeah
19:11.13dougheckahmm, interesting
19:11.14scanlineI used to do a linux distro for it
19:11.22dougheckacool
19:11.22scanlinebut nobody's been interested in them for a long time
19:11.33dougheckayea...
19:11.47dougheckabuilt in keyboard?
19:12.32scanlineno...
19:12.36scanlineonly touchscreen
19:12.46dougheckahmm, onscreen keyboard or anything?
19:12.46scanlineit looks almost exactly like a Palm III
19:12.55dougheckahmm
19:12.59scanlinewell, the original OS had an onscreen keyboard plus handwriting recognition
19:13.05dougheckaah
19:13.21dougheckahttp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3404647740&category=177
19:13.22scanlineif you run picogui on it you'd get an onscreen keyboard and handwriting recognition too
19:13.32dougheckascanline: can picogui run on it?
19:13.45captain_proton:P
19:14.04dougheckaI see...
19:14.05doughecka:)
19:14.23scanlinedoughecka: picogui is pretty much the only thing that can run on it
19:14.30dougheckalol
19:14.56dougheckahow good is handwriting recognition?
19:14.57scanlineI wouldn't recommend getting a Helio, none of the linux-based software for it is complete and you'll be on your own probably
19:15.07scanlinejust get a zaurus, there's a nice community around them
19:15.10dougheckascanline: ah :)
19:15.17dougheckascanline: yea... :)
19:16.09dougheckaor I could get a win ce one, and I would be positive that my software would work onit
19:16.28scanlineeww
19:16.37scanlinelast time I tried wince I almost threw up
19:16.40scanlinethe UI is disgusting
19:16.42dougheckascanline: lol
19:16.52scanlinebrb
19:17.01dougheckascanline: indeed, but there isnt much choice, I could go the palm way, but they eat batterys
19:17.10scanlinezaurus
19:17.20doughecka= lots of money
19:17.44scanlinepalms are expensive.. and what do you mean about them eating batteries, they're more power efficient than most other PDAs
19:18.01scanlineI wouldn't get a palm though, PalmOS is worse than wince
19:18.06dougheckascanline: unless they are left on for hours on end
19:18.15dougheckascanline: lol
19:18.22scanlineanyway.. shower time
19:18.23dougheckahow about a newton?
19:18.27doughecka:D
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20:17.14ak|raja
20:17.17[TeA|TrEE]aaha
20:17.18ak|raimmo nich
20:17.30[TeA|TrEE]uch kauf mir jjetzt nen 22 Zoller
20:17.36ak|rabin heme und bleib da auch -> es gibt probleme hardwaretechnischer natuer
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21:31.55dougheckaNoodleman_: greetings and salutations
21:32.09Noodleman_greetings and salutations, doughecka
21:32.14dougheckalol
21:35.07Noodleman_ibot, botsnack
21:35.07Noodleman_: thanks
21:35.12Noodleman_hehe
21:35.49Noodleman_doughecka, dweebsnack
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22:37.45dougheckagreetings
22:37.57dougheckayou say something?
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22:48.46dougheckawoot
22:48.58Celllo, what sort algo should i use, Merge, Heap or Quicksort, i need to sort 100k elements frequently?
22:48.58dougheckasold one of my PDAs
22:52.13Celllike the osborns on mtv .)
22:55.52Cellgurgle
22:58.43Cellspeed up
23:03.41Noodleman_we will fight for bovine freedom!
23:03.50Cellpapa i know you are going to be upset, cause i was always your little girl but you shoul know by now, i am not a baby
23:03.51Noodleman_cows with guns, buhbuhbuhbuuuh!
23:04.18dougheckaNoodleman_: hmm
23:04.30dougheckaphotoshoping an image of cows?
23:04.57doughecka~zip code 29732
23:05.03doughecka~zip 29732
23:05.05hmm... zip 29732 is Rock Hill York SC
23:05.09dougheckacool
23:05.13Noodleman_no, just thought i'd be a little off my rocker
23:05.17dougheckaah
23:05.49Noodleman_~zip 12345
23:05.50well, zip 12345 is Schenectady Schenectady NY
23:06.00Noodleman_~zip 54321
23:06.33dougheckahaha
23:06.50doughecka~zip 32903
23:06.51i guess zip 32903 is Indialantic Brevard FL
23:07.24dougheckaTEXAN?!??
23:13.02TimTexanRikerdoughecka: accepted with TI. Moving to Dallas soon.
23:13.30dougheckauh oh, what about utahs best ISP and xmission and the bzlist and stuff?
23:13.34doughecka;)
23:13.49dougheckaand IBOT!
23:13.56TimTexanRikernot sure yet. have to chat with them.
23:14.14dougheckaah
23:14.35dougheckathat means your getting closer to me :P
23:14.42TimTexanRikerI expect to host ibot, list server, email, web, etc on a friends site during the move and then move to my system in Dallas after I get DSL/cable/something setup there.
23:14.52dougheckaahh
23:15.05TimTexanRikerso two change of IPs coming for the list server.
23:15.15dougheckaick
23:15.35dougheckatransparent to players?
23:15.50dougheckathey connect to a text file on bzflag.com dont they?
23:16.34dougheckaah, yup
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23:18.27ak|rare
23:18.30dougheckamoin ak|ra
23:18.31TimTexanRikeryes. I'll update that file to the correct IP (instead of the DNS name) and change DNS. anyone that uses a hardcoded list server address will be effected though.
23:18.45dougheckaah, I see
23:18.51dougheckainteresting
23:18.57TimTexanRikeriirc the text file url is http://BZFlag.SourceForge.net/list-server.txt
23:19.04dougheckak
23:19.18doughecka~iirc
23:19.19i guess iirc is "if I recall correctly"
23:19.23dougheckaah
23:19.33TimTexanRikerah. it does now have my IP in it, not the DNS name: bzflist://list.bzflag.org:5156/
23:19.44TimTexanRiker~nslookup list.bzflag.org
23:19.50dougheckalol
23:19.58doughecka~nslookup yahoo.ru
23:20.26dougheckalol
23:20.46dougheckadoesnt do Farenhieght to celcius though
23:22.34Noodleman_ibot, botsnack
23:22.34:), Noodleman_
23:22.42TimTexanRikerno. I might hard code it. the +-32 throws it off.
23:22.58TimTexanRiker~spell celcius
23:23.00possible spellings for celcius: Celsius Kelci's Cecilius Lucius delicious Cecil's Celia's Celie's Celisse cellos salacious cellist slices Celsiuses calciums cells Celts helices Cecily's Cello's cellists cello's Delius Kelcie's celeries Cece's Cele's cell's Celt's Elsi's census Celtics Seleucus clevis Cellini's Mencius calcium Celle's cellars Celia Celka's Dulci's Kelcy's Kelsi's siliceous zealous
23:23.11Noodleman_besides, it's spelled Fahrenheit, doughecka
23:23.14Noodleman_:-P
23:23.31TimTexanRiker~spell Fahrenheit
23:23.32'Fahrenheit' may be spelled correctly
23:23.49ak|raTimTexanRiker -> texan? :)
23:24.02TimTexanRikerak|ra: accepted with TI, moving to Dallas.
23:24.13ak|rafor oil?
23:24.23ak|racaptain_proton: full agree
23:24.32Noodleman_"ev'rthin's bigger in Texas!"
23:24.45ak|raNoodleman_: especially the spaaaccceee
23:25.05dougheckahuh
23:25.30dougheckathats kentucky
23:25.53dougheckahttp://homepages.nildram.co.uk/~jimella/texan.htm
23:26.05dougheckawe need to implament that into ibot
23:26.54dougheckapaypal---a body of persons. "Where'd all them paypal come from?"
23:27.41dougheckaheres a good one
23:27.42dougheckahttp://omni.cc.purdue.edu/~guzmanr/textalk.htm
23:27.43doughecka;)
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23:29.30dougheckaall- 1. a liquid hydocarbon which is produced from deep in the earth. 2. complete or whole.  "Hid take all thuh all in Teksus tuh keep them Yankees warm thus winner." - (1. oil - not to be confused with the Southern pronounciation, "awl". 2. all)
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23:53.35dougheckaoh?
23:53.42Patlabor221ja
23:53.49dougheckawhy?
23:54.18Patlabor221to compess moving image files faster and interleve them with mp3 audio streams.
23:54.28dougheckaah
23:54.33dougheckaie "ripping"
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23:55.33doughecka'lo Noodleman
23:55.43Noodleman'lo doughecka
23:55.51Patlabor221some have called it that when the source is a DVD yes
23:56.27doughecka:)
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