| 00:42.21 | Patlabor221 | heh sewing libs |
| 00:54.04 | *** join/#bzflag CobraA1 (CobraA1@68.114.205.4) |
| 01:00.52 | Patlabor221 | well there is 2 days work down the craper |
| 01:10.01 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:10.51 | Patlabor221 | found one that will actualy work in the left hand |
| 01:11.01 | doughecka | cool |
| 01:11.24 | Patlabor221 | there just bid on 3 of them |
| 01:11.46 | Patlabor221 | hey cap, would a spliter work as well? on a normal game port? |
| 01:11.59 | doughecka | hah |
| 01:12.23 | Patlabor221 | moslty I wonder, cus I have 2 here |
| 01:12.56 | Patlabor221 | a 6 button 3 axis 2 hat one, and a 4 button 3 axis no hat one. |
| 01:13.06 | doughecka | wow |
| 01:13.37 | Patlabor221 | and F16 combat stick and a gravis blackhawk |
| 01:13.44 | doughecka | cool |
| 01:13.45 | Patlabor221 | some some funky MS USB thing at home |
| 01:13.49 | doughecka | heh |
| 01:13.50 | Patlabor221 | and I do mean FUNKY |
| 01:14.25 | Patlabor221 | http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3410323480&category=170 |
| 01:14.26 | Patlabor221 | that |
| 01:14.46 | doughecka | FUNKY! |
| 01:15.54 | Patlabor221 | this is like the one I bid on http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3410367197&category=170 |
| 01:16.15 | doughecka | archonofsfl? |
| 01:16.29 | Patlabor221 | that's not the one I bid on |
| 01:16.31 | Patlabor221 | just like it |
| 01:16.34 | Patlabor221 | had a good picture |
| 01:16.34 | doughecka | haha, PC/iMac (tm) |
| 01:16.39 | doughecka | yea |
| 01:16.53 | Patlabor221 | but it looks to be ether left or right |
| 01:17.01 | doughecka | yea |
| 01:17.18 | doughecka | I am left handed, but I cant use a mouse with my left hand |
| 01:17.37 | doughecka | hmm, 2 bucks, 9 bucks shipping.. |
| 01:18.56 | doughecka | oh duh |
| 01:19.03 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:19.13 | doughecka | searching for patlabor221 worked |
| 01:19.32 | doughecka | hahah |
| 01:19.33 | doughecka | Test auction. Do not bid |
| 01:19.40 | doughecka | Thanks for a nice transaction. |
| 01:20.12 | doughecka | DONT MISS OUT ON THIS GRATE DEAL BID NOW BEFORE IT'S GONE |
| 01:21.01 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 01:21.26 | Patlabor221 | LOL, the "iStick" |
| 01:21.32 | doughecka | lol |
| 01:22.06 | doughecka | cool |
| 01:23.57 | doughecka | works with the PC? |
| 01:27.50 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:27.55 | doughecka | too bad I dont have a hill |
| 01:27.56 | doughecka | http://home.austin.rr.com/nordyke/ |
| 01:38.31 | Patlabor221 | why not just go to magic mountan? |
| 01:45.57 | Patlabor221 | aww SDL won't give the real hat angle |
| 01:46.26 | doughecka | heh |
| 01:46.45 | Patlabor221 | tho there way is nicer |
| 01:47.15 | Patlabor221 | for most current sticks |
| 01:47.19 | doughecka | hm |
| 01:47.26 | doughecka | does leeenox work with usb joysticks? |
| 01:47.36 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 01:47.43 | Patlabor221 | why else would cap want them |
| 01:47.57 | doughecka | hmm |
| 01:48.07 | Patlabor221 | if I can procure enough I shall senh him one |
| 01:48.13 | doughecka | how does a game access the joysticks? |
| 01:48.17 | doughecka | heh |
| 01:48.28 | Patlabor221 | as bribery to help me with an input class :) |
| 01:48.33 | Patlabor221 | proalby some API |
| 01:48.44 | Patlabor221 | acutaly thur SDL |
| 01:48.48 | doughecka | haha |
| 01:48.54 | Patlabor221 | SDL enumeates all sticks |
| 01:49.04 | doughecka | cool |
| 01:51.25 | doughecka | hm |
| 01:52.12 | Patlabor221 | optimaly I would like to be able to set any axis to any device |
| 01:52.25 | Patlabor221 | ether key, mouse, or stick |
| 01:52.29 | Patlabor221 | or iGrill |
| 01:52.45 | doughecka | joystick up! igrill flames up |
| 01:52.46 | Patlabor221 | "and to jump, you make a grilled cheese sandwithc" |
| 01:52.50 | doughecka | haha |
| 01:52.57 | Patlabor221 | " |
| 01:53.11 | Patlabor221 | "gonna be a long game, I got a stack of cheese singles here" |
| 01:54.33 | doughecka | lol |
| 01:55.47 | Patlabor221 | hmm this shoudl realy return a stick class |
| 01:55.53 | Patlabor221 | but just want to test for now |
| 01:56.51 | doughecka | hmm |
| 02:04.27 | Patlabor221 | one joystick won |
| 02:06.43 | doughecka | yay |
| 02:10.42 | Patlabor221 | have you named it "besty" or anything like that yet? |
| 02:11.04 | doughecka | hm |
| 02:11.08 | doughecka | no |
| 02:11.13 | doughecka | its now The Car |
| 02:11.23 | doughecka | or VW, or fasty |
| 02:16.20 | Patlabor221 | fasty |
| 02:16.28 | Patlabor221 | it's a veedub |
| 02:16.32 | Patlabor221 | they are not fasty |
| 02:16.42 | doughecka | sure they are |
| 02:16.49 | doughecka | on the autobaun |
| 02:16.50 | Patlabor221 | ok when airdroped |
| 02:17.06 | doughecka | its aircooled, and it only has 1 belt |
| 02:17.07 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:17.08 | Patlabor221 | tho it will be faster then a bug |
| 02:17.16 | doughecka | hm |
| 02:17.22 | doughecka | 1600cc |
| 02:17.23 | Patlabor221 | aircool gets fun in trafic |
| 02:17.32 | doughecka | its got a fan |
| 02:17.36 | Patlabor221 | well that's good |
| 02:17.44 | Patlabor221 | friends bug didn't |
| 02:17.48 | doughecka | it blows wierd though |
| 02:18.12 | Patlabor221 | does it have a heater? |
| 02:18.18 | doughecka | the air comes in the sides, gets sucked BEHIND the engine, the fan blows it forward, and then it goes either down or out the bottom |
| 02:18.19 | doughecka | yea |
| 02:18.30 | Patlabor221 | odd |
| 02:18.34 | Patlabor221 | wonder how the heater works |
| 02:18.42 | doughecka | heat exchanger |
| 02:18.43 | Patlabor221 | since it usualy used hot engine water |
| 02:18.54 | Patlabor221 | exchange with what? |
| 02:19.02 | doughecka | takes hotair, heats the cool air with it, and blows it up front |
| 02:19.07 | Patlabor221 | ducts from the back? |
| 02:19.09 | doughecka | yup |
| 02:19.15 | doughecka | really nasty if rusted |
| 02:19.21 | Patlabor221 | lots of ducts |
| 02:19.26 | doughecka | OR, there is a unit that runs off gas |
| 02:19.40 | Patlabor221 | like a burner? |
| 02:19.41 | doughecka | sits upfront, and it just runs a fan and a small heater |
| 02:19.42 | doughecka | yea |
| 02:19.48 | Patlabor221 | whoa |
| 02:19.50 | Patlabor221 | that is odd |
| 02:19.54 | doughecka | whats neat is it dont need the engine running |
| 02:20.01 | Patlabor221 | cook stuff on it :) |
| 02:20.01 | doughecka | but I dont have one, I have the engine heat |
| 02:20.04 | doughecka | hehe |
| 02:20.52 | doughecka | has air too |
| 02:21.04 | doughecka | 2 windows and a 60 MPH wind |
| 02:21.05 | doughecka | :P |
| 02:21.59 | Patlabor221 | well out here that would not work |
| 02:22.04 | Patlabor221 | since the air is 115 |
| 02:22.19 | Patlabor221 | but then your not out here |
| 02:22.30 | Patlabor221 | true |
| 02:22.49 | Patlabor221 | will it run on 3 wheels like a bug will? |
| 02:22.54 | doughecka | 3 wheels? |
| 02:23.08 | doughecka | bug=big |
| 02:23.32 | jraitala | I'm performing my second slackware installation tonight |
| 02:23.32 | Patlabor221 | yeah in a bug, if you blow a tire, and don't have a spare, you can move it so that one you don't have is in the front on the pasenger side |
| 02:23.34 | Patlabor221 | and be fine |
| 02:23.44 | doughecka | cool |
| 02:23.46 | doughecka | well |
| 02:23.52 | doughecka | this is also very wierd (and cool)... |
| 02:24.11 | doughecka | the windshield washer fluid has no pump to pump it up to the window |
| 02:24.12 | Patlabor221 | yeah I thought so too, it was designed like that |
| 02:24.12 | jraitala | I really got hooked; slackware beats other distros in simplicity |
| 02:24.25 | jraitala | these bsd style init scripts really make my day |
| 02:24.32 | Patlabor221 | how hard is it to install? |
| 02:24.33 | doughecka | it gets compressed air from the spare tire |
| 02:24.35 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:24.40 | doughecka | really cool idea |
| 02:25.13 | Patlabor221 | well untill you have a flat spare |
| 02:25.28 | Patlabor221 | then it's a curse |
| 02:25.45 | doughecka | no, this is a german car, they put a stopper thing in so when it reached 29 PSI, it stopped |
| 02:25.55 | Patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 02:25.59 | jraitala | one utility I find above all: checkinstall, which is a program that tracks "make install" when you compile from source |
| 02:26.00 | doughecka | 29 Psi is the recommended pressure too |
| 02:26.02 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:26.23 | jraitala | ie it makes slackware packages (which are really just .tgzs) which are easy to uninstall |
| 02:27.20 | doughecka | hehe |
| 02:27.49 | Patlabor221 | automake and auto conf seem like good ideas |
| 02:27.54 | Patlabor221 | well untill they don't work |
| 02:27.59 | doughecka | hah |
| 02:28.05 | Patlabor221 | and pain in ass to add new files it seems |
| 02:28.33 | Patlabor221 | my cvs won't bild on linux anymore |
| 02:28.38 | Patlabor221 | least not on my machine |
| 02:29.00 | doughecka | huh |
| 02:29.20 | Patlabor221 | the makefile config makes wont' compile |
| 02:29.55 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:29.59 | doughecka | press F5 |
| 02:30.36 | Patlabor221 | F5 runs |
| 02:30.44 | Patlabor221 | F7 just compiles |
| 02:30.51 | doughecka | ah |
| 02:30.59 | doughecka | [21:27] * Patlabor221 still prefres f7 |
| 02:31.10 | doughecka | F5 in qbasic runs :) |
| 02:31.24 | doughecka | dint... is that a real word? |
| 02:31.25 | Patlabor221 | yes for compile I prefre F7 |
| 02:31.31 | Patlabor221 | to debug I use F5 |
| 02:31.39 | doughecka | ah |
| 02:31.47 | doughecka | ~spell dint |
| 02:31.47 | | 'dint' may be spelled correctly |
| 02:31.56 | doughecka | huh, it sounds so funny |
| 02:32.01 | Patlabor221 | dinna |
| 02:32.08 | doughecka | like dont dint ma car |
| 02:32.26 | doughecka | or cah, depending where yuall is from |
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| 02:36.36 | doughecka | uh oh, here goes cobraA1's login/logout routine |
| 02:36.54 | Patlabor221 | huh? |
| 02:37.17 | doughecka | we was connecting and disconnecting about 50 times a few days ago |
| 02:37.20 | doughecka | :) |
| 02:37.24 | Patlabor221 | wow |
| 02:37.33 | Patlabor221 | like IRC isn't that hard to hook up to |
| 02:37.35 | doughecka | ok, maybe 15 |
| 02:37.47 | doughecka | but he was configureing his client or something |
| 02:40.08 | doughecka | wow |
| 02:40.12 | doughecka | word XP is pretty cool |
| 02:40.19 | doughecka | the spellchecker gets all kinds of things |
| 02:40.54 | doughecka | repeated words, misspellings... (well.. duh) and other things |
| 02:41.03 | doughecka | or at least outlook XP is |
| 02:42.07 | Patlabor221 | they all use the same engine |
| 02:42.22 | doughecka | yea |
| 02:51.58 | Patlabor221 | ahhh there is the reason for all the segfualts and access violations |
| 02:52.14 | doughecka | a bug? |
| 02:52.20 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 02:52.26 | Patlabor221 | un initalised variable |
| 02:52.28 | doughecka | wow, aint I smart |
| 02:52.36 | doughecka | ah, bad bad :) |
| 02:52.41 | Patlabor221 | very |
| 02:57.32 | doughecka | ~dict chassis |
| 02:58.32 | captain_proton | doughecka: no, no you're not |
| 02:59.03 | doughecka | oh, drats |
| 02:59.11 | doughecka | thought I was for a second |
| 02:59.57 | doughecka | ~x en de oil |
| 03:00.19 | doughecka | huh |
| 03:00.28 | Patlabor221 | there we go joysick support |
| 03:00.38 | doughecka | yay |
| 03:00.51 | doughecka | now to get it working in bzflag! |
| 03:01.13 | captain_proton | doughecka: do it yourself ;) |
| 03:01.27 | doughecka | captain_proton: patches welcome |
| 03:01.28 | Patlabor221 | tho this is kinda a hack |
| 03:01.42 | Patlabor221 | cap, I have some usb sticks coming in |
| 03:01.55 | captain_proton | doughecka: stop expecting others to do things for you, its getting on my nerves |
| 03:01.56 | Patlabor221 | can you work with one USB, one gameport? |
| 03:02.09 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: yeah, i have a gameport one that works |
| 03:02.13 | doughecka | captain_proton: you suggested it in the first place |
| 03:02.17 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 03:02.28 | Patlabor221 | these will work leftie too |
| 03:02.30 | captain_proton | doughecka: its a question of you being an annoying brat |
| 03:02.43 | Patlabor221 | when a usb one gets here I'll get it out to you |
| 03:02.48 | captain_proton | yay :) |
| 03:03.02 | Patlabor221 | if you'll make me an input config handaler :) |
| 03:03.39 | Patlabor221 | if I get enough I may send you 2 |
| 03:07.07 | Patlabor221 | ok CVS now wil 1) not crash randomly, and 2) have mouse and joystick support. if you turn them on in DefaultGameLogic.cpp |
| 03:07.48 | Patlabor221 | at the top you just have to turn on |
| 03:07.48 | Patlabor221 | #define _USE_JOYSICK false |
| 03:07.49 | Patlabor221 | #define _USE_MOUSE false |
| 03:07.52 | Patlabor221 | one of those 2 |
| 03:08.08 | Noodleman | man oh man |
| 03:08.19 | Noodleman | nothing is as satisfying as italian food |
| 03:08.31 | doughecka | http://heck.no-ip.com/fasty.htm |
| 03:08.42 | doughecka | fake italian food? |
| 03:08.46 | Noodleman | no |
| 03:08.51 | Patlabor221 | what did you have? |
| 03:08.52 | Noodleman | it was real |
| 03:08.55 | doughecka | oh cool |
| 03:09.02 | Noodleman | i had manicotti |
| 03:09.05 | Patlabor221 | jezus christ doug, you ever hit return? |
| 03:09.19 | doughecka | Patlabor221: nope |
| 03:10.49 | Patlabor221 | cap this is the stick |
| 03:10.50 | Patlabor221 | http://www.epinions.com/S0738157-RaiderPro |
| 03:10.57 | Patlabor221 | tho that's not teh USB one |
| 03:13.51 | Patlabor221 | it has hardcoded axes and buttons |
| 03:13.54 | Noodleman | gosh golly gee, is doug's connection ever fast! |
| 03:13.55 | Patlabor221 | so watch out |
| 03:14.08 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 03:14.20 | doughecka | Noodleman: woo, dsl is gettin flaky |
| 03:14.22 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: thats fine |
| 03:14.24 | doughecka | :) |
| 03:14.25 | Patlabor221 | but it uses the first 2 axies and the first 2 buttons |
| 03:14.39 | Noodleman | i'm getting 1.8KB/sec here |
| 03:15.05 | doughecka | Noodleman: I see the lights... one blink per second |
| 03:15.09 | Patlabor221 | cap, tho larsl checked in that automake stuff and it woudln't build for me |
| 03:15.10 | Noodleman | haha |
| 03:15.13 | Patlabor221 | so I don't know about for you |
| 03:15.24 | doughecka | ok doke, off O go |
| 03:15.40 | Noodleman | offogo, offogo, offogo |
| 03:15.44 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 03:15.44 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: it builds for me |
| 03:15.49 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 03:16.03 | Patlabor221 | noodle I think I found out why ou may have segfualted |
| 03:16.04 | Noodleman | cooWAHhoo hoo hooo |
| 03:16.04 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: run autoconf then automake |
| 03:16.07 | captain_proton | then reconfigure |
| 03:16.07 | Patlabor221 | on debian |
| 03:16.12 | Noodleman | why's that? |
| 03:16.14 | Patlabor221 | ohh ok |
| 03:16.20 | Patlabor221 | cus I screwed up :) |
| 03:16.23 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 03:16.24 | Patlabor221 | and there was a random crash |
| 03:16.40 | Patlabor221 | un initalised variable |
| 03:16.47 | Patlabor221 | and delete |
| 03:16.51 | Patlabor221 | not good otgether |
| 03:16.55 | Noodleman | you're slackin' |
| 03:16.57 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 03:17.16 | Patlabor221 | wouldn't crash all the time |
| 03:17.43 | Patlabor221 | and I'm trying to bribe cap into helping me with an input class |
| 03:17.47 | Patlabor221 | don't know if it's workin yet |
| 03:17.56 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: joystick feels weird |
| 03:18.15 | Patlabor221 | there is a dead zone |
| 03:18.21 | Patlabor221 | it's using the mouse movement code |
| 03:19.12 | captain_proton | yeah, i noticed the dead zone |
| 03:19.18 | captain_proton | that doesn't bother me so much as the sensitivity |
| 03:19.30 | captain_proton | it feels like as soon as i get out of the dead zone i'm at full strength |
| 03:20.28 | Patlabor221 | you may be, I have not looked at that code much |
| 03:21.03 | captain_proton | let me take a look |
| 03:21.37 | Patlabor221 | CDefaultGameLogic::UpdateInput |
| 03:21.46 | Patlabor221 | that's where all input is processed |
| 03:22.51 | captain_proton | aha |
| 03:23.06 | Patlabor221 | I make bad? |
| 03:23.11 | captain_proton | you're scaling the joystick down to [-1,1], right? |
| 03:23.19 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 03:23.38 | Patlabor221 | axis input is scaled to that |
| 03:23.41 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 03:23.55 | Patlabor221 | well I need to hit the store |
| 03:24.04 | Patlabor221 | I made you a ssh acount if you want to fix it |
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| 03:25.31 | heinola | hello all |
| 03:25.34 | heinola | how does |
| 03:25.36 | Patlabor221 | bbl |
| 03:25.40 | *** part/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~JeffM@208.48.199.214) |
| 03:26.12 | captain_proton | hrmph |
| 03:27.46 | *** part/#bzflag heinola (heinola@63.98.3.190) |
| 03:42.36 | captain_proton | hmm, halfway |
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| 03:47.08 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: got it working halfway |
| 03:47.18 | captain_proton | now it scales the motion when moving forward & left |
| 03:47.19 | Patlabor221 | what was the problem? |
| 03:47.22 | captain_proton | need to figure out backward & right |
| 03:47.29 | captain_proton | you had a <= where it should have been >= |
| 03:47.53 | Patlabor221 | ahhh |
| 03:47.58 | Patlabor221 | big dif |
| 03:50.58 | captain_proton | got it |
| 03:51.15 | captain_proton | you were also treating everything as if it were positive in the adjustment for min/max |
| 03:51.22 | Patlabor221 | ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 03:51.23 | Patlabor221 | I suck |
| 03:56.09 | captain_proton | one more test then i'll commit |
| 04:00.10 | captain_proton | committed |
| 04:01.07 | Patlabor221 | geting |
| 04:01.26 | captain_proton | don't forget to turn on joystick |
| 04:01.59 | Patlabor221 | what did you need an iostream for? |
| 04:02.08 | captain_proton | ohh you can kill that |
| 04:02.16 | captain_proton | i was spewing out values to figger out what it was doing |
| 04:02.38 | Patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 04:02.45 | Patlabor221 | ooooo that is some smooth stuf, thanks |
| 04:03.25 | Patlabor221 | tho it's not playable with this controller, but that's not the code's fault |
| 04:04.25 | captain_proton | works nicely with my analog sticky |
| 04:04.28 | Patlabor221 | I should get a X-box USB converter |
| 04:04.54 | Patlabor221 | only thing I can hook up here is the microsoft sidewider dual shock USB 1.0 |
| 04:05.03 | Patlabor221 | seems I don't have a game port here |
| 04:05.22 | captain_proton | though i think joystick should have a dead zone of 0.05 rather than 0.25 |
| 04:05.30 | Patlabor221 | it's the mouse code |
| 04:05.42 | Patlabor221 | I think it should be configurable |
| 04:05.47 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 04:06.20 | Patlabor221 | what I wold eventualy like to have is something that takes a config, and maps axes from any device to an "input axis" |
| 04:06.34 | Patlabor221 | and binds buttons to commands |
| 04:06.56 | Patlabor221 | so like if you wanted you could put your forward motion on keys, and your turn on a mouse |
| 04:07.00 | Patlabor221 | or both on a mouse |
| 04:07.10 | Patlabor221 | or one on a foot pedal |
| 04:07.26 | Patlabor221 | and of course the 2 stick super tank mode |
| 04:07.59 | Patlabor221 | tho controlling speed with a throtle would be neat |
| 04:11.06 | captain_proton | that would be nice, fully reconfigurable input |
| 04:11.12 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 04:11.37 | Patlabor221 | I think its doable too |
| 04:13.21 | captain_proton | for sure |
| 04:17.14 | captain_proton | but i think there are more important things |
| 04:17.16 | captain_proton | like a game ;) |
| 04:17.32 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 04:18.07 | Patlabor221 | working on collision detection using coldet |
| 04:18.20 | Patlabor221 | and strangely enough I need it for lighting |
| 04:18.42 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 04:18.56 | Patlabor221 | the lib has ray object colision code |
| 04:19.08 | captain_proton | ah |
| 04:19.12 | Patlabor221 | for each object I will use it to see what static lights are visible |
| 04:19.25 | Patlabor221 | it wont' be perfect |
| 04:19.31 | Patlabor221 | but I hope it will look ok |
| 04:19.50 | Patlabor221 | but mostely I want to start bumpin into stuff |
| 04:21.13 | Patlabor221 | I think I have a good idea of the basic weapons layout that you will have |
| 04:21.20 | Patlabor221 | and some varying game types |
| 04:21.33 | Patlabor221 | and the damage system |
| 04:21.54 | captain_proton | i could maybe port the particle system from jetstream into it |
| 04:22.07 | captain_proton | since i think scanline has decided jetstream is too directionless |
| 04:23.12 | Patlabor221 | I have a particle system, I just haven't hooked it up, but I wouldn't mind seeing what you have :) |
| 04:24.01 | captain_proton | it pools all the particles and uses the fact that incident vertices in a triangle are filtered out by the rendering pipe to make it really fast |
| 04:24.24 | Patlabor221 | keen |
| 04:24.37 | captain_proton | one big interleaved array |
| 04:25.09 | Patlabor221 | just as long as it keeps with the high level code mehtodolgy I have, a base class, a base factory, a manager, then derived classes registered with a name |
| 04:25.22 | Patlabor221 | then anyone can ask for one by the name |
| 04:25.35 | captain_proton | hm, perhaps you should look at it first ;) |
| 04:25.44 | Patlabor221 | perhaps |
| 04:25.50 | captain_proton | it uses the same "technique" for building systems as i had done for bz-1.8 |
| 04:25.59 | captain_proton | just a speedy backend |
| 04:26.10 | Patlabor221 | how did you define new systems? |
| 04:26.25 | captain_proton | a collection of emitters & affectors |
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| 04:26.55 | Patlabor221 | ok, that could be wraped up a class for each type |
| 04:26.59 | Patlabor221 | like "water fountan" |
| 04:27.03 | Patlabor221 | "fire" |
| 04:27.18 | captain_proton | could be |
| 04:27.34 | captain_proton | part of the thing i like about it is its easy to store the "parts" outside of the app |
| 04:27.43 | Patlabor221 | again a good thing |
| 04:27.55 | captain_proton | so you could create some config-file type thing per type, then instantiate by name |
| 04:28.02 | Patlabor221 | that would work |
| 04:28.11 | captain_proton | much like most of LGE |
| 04:28.20 | Patlabor221 | that's how I did the model manager |
| 04:29.17 | Patlabor221 | all you would have to do now is make a "particle" system world object |
| 04:29.22 | Patlabor221 | and a MOBObject |
| 04:29.37 | Patlabor221 | and just have them read in configs |
| 04:31.29 | Patlabor221 | I think I'm definaly set on the fact that there will be no "high speed' type of powerup |
| 04:31.41 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 04:31.42 | Patlabor221 | but there will be a "turbo" |
| 04:31.52 | captain_proton | especially since they're pretty fast to begin with |
| 04:31.53 | Patlabor221 | basicly a jato bottle on the tank |
| 04:32.01 | Patlabor221 | well I need to config them |
| 04:32.09 | captain_proton | although its true that you do have momentum |
| 04:32.24 | Patlabor221 | but the idea is , you light the turbo. it goes, you have no throttle, and it goes for 30 seconds |
| 04:32.33 | Patlabor221 | you just steer and scream |
| 04:32.41 | captain_proton | yup |
| 04:32.59 | Patlabor221 | and you shout "rocket from the sockets!!!!!!!" |
| 04:33.13 | Patlabor221 | I have difrent momentum the BZ tho |
| 04:33.24 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 04:33.33 | Patlabor221 | there is more friction the more your movement vector points away from your facing vector |
| 04:33.43 | Patlabor221 | tho the tilt code is still funky |
| 04:34.37 | Patlabor221 | particle system would be nice on the thruster tail tho :) |
| 04:34.42 | captain_proton | feels pretty good |
| 04:34.55 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: can you rig up a mode where it looks down on the field from an angle? |
| 04:35.07 | captain_proton | i'd like to see the pod scooting around |
| 04:35.09 | Patlabor221 | yeah I think so |
| 04:35.21 | Patlabor221 | tho the pod isn't drawn now |
| 04:35.26 | captain_proton | 'course not |
| 04:35.31 | Patlabor221 | but it should be able to be hooked up |
| 04:35.50 | Patlabor221 | could have it follow the pod too |
| 04:35.57 | Patlabor221 | I'll see what I can do |
| 04:36.23 | captain_proton | 3rd person would be niftier |
| 04:36.35 | Patlabor221 | that I want as a real feature |
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| 05:12.22 | Patlabor221 | well thre it has a temporary license |
| 05:12.34 | Patlabor221 | the "don't sell it or I'll kill ya" license |
| 05:13.21 | Patlabor221 | with the "I don't have to take your changes if I don't want to" clause |
| 05:14.27 | CobraA1 | lol |
| 05:14.42 | Patlabor221 | oh and cap I think you will like my idea for "fast shots" |
| 05:15.14 | Patlabor221 | rocket assist shells, they will actualy accelerate AFTER the leave the barrel for a bit. |
| 05:15.17 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: shoot :) |
| 05:15.37 | Patlabor221 | then slow back down to a normal speed |
| 05:15.42 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 05:15.47 | Patlabor221 | and well then the "fuel air missle" |
| 05:15.49 | captain_proton | why would it slow down? |
| 05:15.59 | Patlabor221 | true, dosn't need to |
| 05:16.06 | Patlabor221 | but it should accelerate |
| 05:16.15 | Patlabor221 | and not come out at the constant high speed |
| 05:16.50 | Patlabor221 | I plan on haveing 3 wepon "slots" |
| 05:17.14 | Patlabor221 | your default ( a fast fire, low dmg machine gun kinda thing) |
| 05:17.20 | Patlabor221 | the "cannon" |
| 05:17.22 | [STC]_creeperz | And be able to release a weapon at anytime to fill it with another? |
| 05:17.30 | Patlabor221 | not quire creeper |
| 05:17.31 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmmm |
| 05:17.51 | Patlabor221 | the "cannon" slower fireing and takes difrent ammo, that you have a limited number of. |
| 05:17.59 | Patlabor221 | and a "rear missile rack" |
| 05:18.05 | Patlabor221 | that again takes ammo |
| 05:18.05 | [STC]_creeperz | So there is a health meter thing |
| 05:18.12 | Patlabor221 | thre is shiled power |
| 05:18.17 | [STC]_creeperz | Ahh |
| 05:18.19 | Patlabor221 | well power in general |
| 05:18.25 | Patlabor221 | that powers shelds |
| 05:18.28 | [STC]_creeperz | How can a tank have a shield? |
| 05:18.32 | Patlabor221 | and any weps that use juice |
| 05:18.42 | Patlabor221 | with shield emmiters silly |
| 05:18.56 | [STC]_creeperz | Is there even such a thing? |
| 05:19.08 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 05:19.13 | Patlabor221 | and then thre will be "one shot" items ( like the jaot bottle) |
| 05:19.30 | [STC]_creeperz | Maybe grenades! :) |
| 05:19.42 | [STC]_creeperz | Click and hold to set range of throw |
| 05:19.44 | Patlabor221 | and "accesory'" items, like stealth and cloac, that take power |
| 05:19.48 | [STC]_creeperz | Release to fire |
| 05:19.50 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: how long till that 3rd person view is hooked up? =) |
| 05:19.51 | Patlabor221 | how can a tank, thow? |
| 05:19.59 | [STC]_creeperz | Catapults |
| 05:20.01 | Patlabor221 | proably tongiht |
| 05:20.09 | [STC]_creeperz | How can a tank have a shield? |
| 05:20.10 | Patlabor221 | if I can find a beverage :) |
| 05:20.19 | Patlabor221 | again shield emmiters |
| 05:20.24 | Patlabor221 | dosn't have arms |
| 05:20.25 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
| 05:20.35 | Patlabor221 | there may be a mortar option for the rear rack |
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| 05:20.39 | [STC]_creeperz | Where is a tank going to find shield emmiters? |
| 05:20.52 | Patlabor221 | it comes with them |
| 05:20.57 | [STC]_creeperz | Ahhh |
| 05:21.00 | Patlabor221 | factory option |
| 05:21.12 | [STC]_creeperz | But where can you find one? I need a few for my car |
| 05:21.12 | Patlabor221 | it's in the bucket seat package |
| 05:21.21 | Patlabor221 | MIT |
| 05:21.26 | [STC]_creeperz | Ohh |
| 05:21.30 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
| 05:21.52 | [STC]_creeperz | Something tells me that's not EXACTLY the place to go for shield emmiters |
| 05:21.54 | [STC]_creeperz | ~mit |
| 05:22.07 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm. :-/ |
| 05:22.13 | Patlabor221 | Mass. Inst. of Tech. |
| 05:22.14 | [STC]_creeperz | brb |
| 05:22.18 | [STC]_creeperz | I know |
| 05:22.27 | [STC]_creeperz | I was just seeing if there was a desc. |
| 05:22.32 | captain_proton | ug |
| 05:22.48 | Patlabor221 | riiiighhth |
| 05:23.34 | Patlabor221 | crap I don't even have a MOB class that can draw a mesh |
| 05:23.53 | [STC]_creeperz | www.animatrix.com ;_0 |
| 05:24.01 | Patlabor221 | yes be out in june |
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| 05:24.45 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
| 05:25.01 | [STC]_creeperz | My screen is all bright |
| 05:25.08 | Patlabor221 | ugg some of the files got double *nix converted in CVs |
| 05:25.18 | [STC]_creeperz | C yu later |
| 05:32.47 | Patlabor221 | ahhh fixed by the power of 'nix :) |
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| 05:34.15 | CobraA1 | Hello Tim! |
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| 05:35.35 | Patlabor221 | how goes texas? |
| 05:45.40 | TimRiker | unpacking is hard work. |
| 05:46.09 | Patlabor221 | that it is |
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| 06:57.23 | Patlabor221 | cap you up? |
| 06:57.26 | Patlabor221 | 3rd person is done |
| 06:58.33 | captain_proton | yep |
| 06:59.12 | Patlabor221 | let me commit |
| 07:00.14 | Patlabor221 | ok it's in |
| 07:00.39 | Patlabor221 | F1 and F2 swich between third and first person |
| 07:00.52 | captain_proton | nifty |
| 07:01.07 | Patlabor221 | F5 and F6 switch between 2 difrent "pullback" distances in thrid person |
| 07:01.48 | Patlabor221 | F3 and F4 would take care of turning on/off the model, but my visiblity code keeps kicking in, and drawing it anyway |
| 07:01.50 | Patlabor221 | :) |
| 07:02.01 | Patlabor221 | need to hook up the "hide" flag |
| 07:03.39 | captain_proton | WorldObjects.cpp:993: cannot call destructor `CPlayerTank::~CPlayerTank' |
| 07:03.39 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:03.49 | captain_proton | whoa that is weird |
| 07:03.54 | Patlabor221 | huh? |
| 07:04.15 | captain_proton | your code there ;) |
| 07:04.35 | Patlabor221 | what line? |
| 07:04.41 | captain_proton | 993 |
| 07:05.14 | Patlabor221 | WTF |
| 07:05.20 | Patlabor221 | I must be tired |
| 07:05.22 | Patlabor221 | kill that part |
| 07:08.09 | captain_proton | whoa |
| 07:08.18 | captain_proton | DefaultGameLogic.cpp:315 & similar above |
| 07:08.20 | captain_proton | why *0.1? |
| 07:08.23 | captain_proton | it screws up everything :P |
| 07:08.36 | Patlabor221 | ohh, was just playing |
| 07:08.43 | Patlabor221 | what woudl you sujest? |
| 07:09.10 | captain_proton | what were you trying to do? |
| 07:09.19 | captain_proton | what you did was make the max size smaller than the min size :P |
| 07:09.22 | Patlabor221 | decrease the zead zone |
| 07:09.26 | Patlabor221 | ohhh shit |
| 07:10.02 | Patlabor221 | I missed a line :) |
| 07:10.31 | captain_proton | 3rd person looks good |
| 07:10.36 | captain_proton | except for one rendering issue |
| 07:10.38 | Patlabor221 | updated CVS |
| 07:10.40 | Patlabor221 | ? |
| 07:10.46 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure there are many |
| 07:10.52 | captain_proton | get the pod behind one of the spinning logos |
| 07:11.29 | Patlabor221 | yeah the pod is drawn in the wrong order now |
| 07:11.45 | Patlabor221 | I just chucked it in |
| 07:12.01 | Patlabor221 | I would like to make the camera folow the movement angle not the facing vector |
| 07:12.08 | Patlabor221 | or something inbetween maybe :) |
| 07:12.25 | captain_proton | give the camera some momentum |
| 07:12.51 | Patlabor221 | exactly |
| 07:13.02 | Patlabor221 | tho that would make it hard as hell to aim |
| 07:13.27 | captain_proton | in 3rd person, yes |
| 07:13.41 | captain_proton | but anyone playing in 3rd person is playing for the view, not for the game ;) |
| 07:14.07 | Patlabor221 | well I don't know, I have some ideas that may make it work |
| 07:14.13 | Patlabor221 | that I wish to experment with |
| 07:15.33 | captain_proton | its fun to grab a hold of the joystick and watch the pod scoot |
| 07:18.26 | Patlabor221 | thre we go, z buffer fixed |
| 07:19.54 | Patlabor221 | the spinny spawn map objects were not properly flaged as trasperant |
| 07:22.10 | Patlabor221 | I should probably save wether or not a texture has an alpha chanel wehn I load it, so I can know what is trasnperant |
| 07:24.09 | Patlabor221 | thought about tilting the tank forward a bit too based on speed |
| 07:24.16 | captain_proton | would make sense |
| 07:24.34 | captain_proton | when the tank initially accelerates it should tip back |
| 07:24.36 | Patlabor221 | but that can all be tweaked later |
| 07:24.37 | captain_proton | just a bit |
| 07:24.56 | Patlabor221 | yeah when it hits it's terminal velocity |
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| 07:28.12 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: cute |
| 07:28.35 | Patlabor221 | I should put the reaper in that map too |
| 07:28.54 | captain_proton | reaper? |
| 07:29.44 | Patlabor221 | http://asgard.bakadigital.com/Screamers/imgs/DontFearTheReaper2.png |
| 07:30.07 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: hah |
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| 07:31.11 | Patlabor221 | I'll work on collisions some more tomrowow |
| 07:31.20 | Patlabor221 | got to see of coldet compiles as well |
| 07:45.29 | Patlabor221 | well that's enough coding hilarity for one night |
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| 12:03.10 | rooter | Chestal: we have a cheater on ducati6 |
| 12:03.16 | rooter | ~ducati6 |
| 12:03.30 | rooter | it's Mudzahedin |
| 12:06.36 | Chestal | rooter: hmm, my PC has problems |
| 12:07.00 | rooter | that's too bad |
| 12:07.14 | rooter | is there anybody else who can kick him off? |
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| 14:12.10 | doughecka | 'The major difference between a thing that might go wrong and a thing that cannot possibly go wrong is that when a thing that cannot possibly go wrong goes wrong, it usually turns out to be impossible to get at or repair. |
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| 15:49.16 | Hellfried | hey, is there a way to say -geometry 800x600 without using the -window thingy? |
| 15:49.31 | Hellfried | it seems to ignore it :/ |
| 15:52.46 | doughecka | dunno |
| 15:52.48 | Hellfried | well, i can even change the .bzflag setting, but it would just overwrite |
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| 16:14.20 | doughecka | 'lo Patlabor221 |
| 16:14.30 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 16:14.44 | doughecka | cool |
| 16:29.38 | doughecka | nikt.org |
| 16:29.39 | doughecka | hm |
| 16:30.20 | doughecka | :P |
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| 16:51.05 | Patlabor221 | sup larsl |
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| 17:08.44 | larsl | Not much. |
| 17:09.44 | larsl | Did you get the configure/make system to work? |
| 17:11.00 | Patlabor221 | haven't reid yet, but cap said I probalby just need to rerun autoconfig and automake, he had similar issues and it worked for him |
| 17:11.19 | larsl | OK. |
| 17:11.28 | Patlabor221 | but I'll give it a go in a bit here |
| 17:12.00 | larsl | I probably should update my autotools. |
| 17:25.07 | Patlabor221 | hooked up joysticks and thrid person views last night :) |
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| 17:27.21 | Patlabor221 | and I foudn why it was randomly crashing sometimes |
| 17:31.06 | larsl | Memory bug? |
| 17:31.56 | Patlabor221 | yeah uniinitalised Variable |
| 17:32.05 | Patlabor221 | all fixed now |
| 17:33.40 | Patlabor221 | cap wants to work on a dual stick "battle zone" mode |
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| 18:39.46 | Patlabor221 | larsl, when I want to add files to a project I just add them to the Makefile.am for the project right? |
| 18:44.40 | larsl | Patlabor221: Yes, that should be enough. |
| 18:45.07 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 18:45.57 | larsl | Except for the data files, I didn't add Makefile.ams for that directory. |
| 18:46.50 | larsl | The entire data directory will be copied into the dist directory when you 'make dist'. |
| 18:50.48 | Patlabor221 | yeah didnb't think I needed it for them |
| 18:50.57 | Patlabor221 | just the compiled stuff |
| 18:52.09 | larsl | By the way, where does the program search for data files? |
| 18:52.23 | Patlabor221 | same dir as the app |
| 18:52.38 | Patlabor221 | I should make it smarter tho |
| 18:52.52 | Patlabor221 | perhaps read from the config file it makes |
| 18:53.04 | larsl | On UNIX it should probably look in @prefix@/share/screamers too. |
| 18:53.11 | larsl | Config file is good. |
| 18:53.56 | Patlabor221 | yeah I need to look into that more, not all of the things that scan for files will like being somewhere besides /data/..... |
| 18:54.28 | Patlabor221 | but there are only a couple classes that scan for files |
| 18:54.35 | Patlabor221 | and they all use OSDir to scan for files |
| 18:55.31 | Patlabor221 | it realy could scan anywhere, just as long as it saves the path relitive from /data as the items "name" |
| 18:55.44 | Patlabor221 | since everything is refrenced from a pathname |
| 18:56.23 | Patlabor221 | optimaly it would be nice to read from a compressed archive too |
| 18:59.59 | larsl | The top-level Makefile.am installs all the data files in @prefix@/share/screamers/data when you do 'make install', change that to wherever you want them. |
| 19:00.25 | larsl | That's probably the normal way of storing data files on UNIXish systems though. |
| 19:01.01 | Patlabor221 | where does it put the app? |
| 19:01.09 | larsl | @prefix@/bin |
| 19:01.23 | Patlabor221 | yeah that's not gonna work right now |
| 19:01.33 | larsl | @prefix@ is whatever the user gives as --prefix to configure, /usr/local by default. |
| 19:01.35 | Patlabor221 | have to work it out |
| 19:02.10 | Patlabor221 | now I see why BZ dosn't do a make install :) |
| 19:02.21 | larsl | It doesn't? |
| 19:02.27 | Patlabor221 | ohh no |
| 19:02.42 | Patlabor221 | not that I know of |
| 19:02.49 | doughecka | huh |
| 19:02.50 | Patlabor221 | but I may be wrong |
| 19:04.21 | larsl | I don't know, I've always built RPM packages and installed them. =) |
| 19:04.28 | doughecka | hah |
| 19:04.36 | larsl | There doesn't seem to be an 'install' target though. |
| 19:04.56 | larsl | The RPM spec file does a lot of manual moving and copying. |
| 19:05.13 | Patlabor221 | yeah that's what I mean |
| 19:05.21 | doughecka | I thought it went, at least with e4, ./configure, make-linux or something, make install |
| 19:05.42 | Patlabor221 | does it put the bin and the data in the same place? |
| 19:05.52 | larsl | make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. |
| 19:05.55 | larsl | In CVS. |
| 19:06.02 | doughecka | hmm, dunno |
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| 19:06.28 | Cell | lo |
| 19:06.28 | doughecka | it puts in in a /bin folder or something |
| 19:06.37 | larsl | Patlabor221: No, it puts the binaries in /usr/games/bin and the data in /usr/games/share/bzflag. |
| 19:06.41 | larsl | Or something like that. |
| 19:08.26 | victorvdl | So, wots the current status on 1.8? Still abandoned? |
| 19:09.23 | doughecka | hahaha |
| 19:09.27 | doughecka | yup |
| 19:10.13 | victorvdl | Darn. Its cool. |
| 19:10.19 | victorvdl | Does anyone play 1.8? |
| 19:10.22 | doughecka | nope |
| 19:10.29 | Patlabor221 | 1.8 is dead |
| 19:10.32 | doughecka | its buggy, and nobody runs any servers |
| 19:10.33 | Patlabor221 | no more dev on it |
| 19:10.51 | Patlabor221 | next version will be 1.9 or 2.0 |
| 19:11.05 | Patlabor221 | but based on the 1.7 code, with some stuff from 1.8 put in it. |
| 19:11.54 | victorvdl | Hmm... Well, the flags are cool. Especially thief. |
| 19:11.56 | Chestal | that is, when we'll ever finish 1.7g2 |
| 19:11.59 | Patlabor221 | what makes it "cool" |
| 19:12.15 | doughecka | Patlabor221: new flags makes it cool |
| 19:12.17 | Patlabor221 | I'm guessing 2015 for G2 |
| 19:12.55 | Patlabor221 | no I have faith that it will only take tim 12 years to unpack |
| 19:13.03 | doughecka | ah |
| 19:13.20 | victorvdl | Patlabor221: Thief? It just is ;-) |
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| 19:15.05 | doughecka | ooh, a 32 meg CF card! |
| 19:15.07 | Chestal | me: brav! |
| 19:15.09 | Chestal | oops |
| 19:15.34 | doughecka | me is me@turing.heim1.tu-clausthal.de |
| 19:16.21 | Patlabor221 | what does it take to get a joystik workin under linux? |
| 19:16.48 | doughecka | 2 ducks, a gallon of water, and some fish scales |
| 19:17.00 | Patlabor221 | I have geese, will that work |
| 19:17.01 | doughecka | preferibly whiting |
| 19:17.06 | doughecka | dunno |
| 19:17.25 | doughecka | it might honk up ur system |
| 19:17.34 | Patlabor221 | ooooo bad pun |
| 19:17.41 | doughecka | I know |
| 19:17.45 | doughecka | :P |
| 19:17.49 | victorvdl | Patlabor221: If you want to get it working with BZ, you might want a few more ducks... |
| 19:17.54 | Patlabor221 | I've set sticks up as an option in the config |
| 19:18.03 | Patlabor221 | never said BZ :) |
| 19:18.06 | doughecka | haha |
| 19:18.43 | Patlabor221 | well not yet anyway |
| 19:19.21 | Patlabor221 | wonder if a game port one will work if I just hook it up |
| 19:19.59 | Patlabor221 | didn he run on a Z80? |
| 19:20.05 | doughecka | hm |
| 19:20.09 | doughecka | I dont know.. |
| 19:21.14 | victorvdl | Patlabor221: modprobe joydev and ns558 and the driver for your stick. |
| 19:21.29 | Patlabor221 | I need a driver for my stick, hicky |
| 19:21.33 | Patlabor221 | ick |
| 19:21.49 | victorvdl | Patlabor221: Analog stick? |
| 19:21.49 | Patlabor221 | wonder where i"m gona find that |
| 19:21.54 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 19:21.59 | Patlabor221 | I think |
| 19:22.13 | Patlabor221 | F16 -CombatStick is what it's called |
| 19:23.06 | Patlabor221 | on windows I just told it , it was a 3 axis, 6 button 2 hat stick. |
| 19:23.06 | victorvdl | Patlabor221: try modprobing analog. |
| 19:23.11 | Cell | FDDI ? |
| 19:24.03 | Patlabor221 | or I could hook up this thing |
| 19:24.04 | Patlabor221 | http://www.saitekusa.com/usa/prod/cyborgold.htm |
| 19:24.09 | Patlabor221 | tho it's not the "gold" one |
| 19:24.29 | Cell | CSMA/CD |
| 19:24.34 | Cell | ? |
| 19:24.38 | Cell | = ETHERNET |
| 19:24.48 | Patlabor221 | hell are you talking about cell. |
| 19:24.59 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: tried joystick with the far pullback on screamers? |
| 19:25.16 | Patlabor221 | not yet |
| 19:25.24 | doughecka | filesystem error : chewing gum on /dev/rdsk/0i1s7 |
| 19:25.43 | Cell | DQDB IEEE 802.6 |
| 19:25.47 | Cell | ? |
| 19:26.14 | Cell | gurgle |
| 19:26.28 | Cell | data link layer is so difficult |
| 19:26.44 | Patlabor221 | I did set up sticks and mice and the third person as options in config instead of build options |
| 19:27.10 | captain_proton | oo, great |
| 19:27.34 | captain_proton | did you commit that? |
| 19:27.38 | Patlabor221 | sure |
| 19:27.42 | Patlabor221 | hasn't been tested tho |
| 19:27.49 | Patlabor221 | too many prying eyes |
| 19:27.57 | captain_proton | i don't get new code if i up |
| 19:28.17 | Cell | gurgle |
| 19:28.34 | Patlabor221 | commited |
| 19:28.51 | Cell | i want it too |
| 19:29.00 | Patlabor221 | should add |
| 19:29.01 | Patlabor221 | Start3rdPerson 0 |
| 19:29.01 | Patlabor221 | UseMouse 0 |
| 19:29.01 | Patlabor221 | UseStick 1 |
| 19:29.07 | victorvdl | Patlabor221: 3rd person view? Weehaa... |
| 19:29.17 | Patlabor221 | to your config first time you run |
| 19:29.29 | Patlabor221 | well UseStick 0 |
| 19:29.31 | Cell | bah |
| 19:29.45 | Patlabor221 | cell noone unserdatnds what the hell you are saying |
| 19:30.10 | Cell | i want screamers form the repository |
| 19:30.25 | Patlabor221 | so get it |
| 19:30.29 | captain_proton | yay for squirrel nut zippers |
| 19:30.43 | Cell | is it still text |
| 19:30.43 | doughecka | um |
| 19:30.58 | Patlabor221 | no cell I fixed it |
| 19:31.05 | Cell | ah |
| 19:31.07 | Patlabor221 | squirl nut zippers is keen |
| 19:31.48 | Cell | checking out |
| 19:32.04 | Patlabor221 | it now has a liscense too :) |
| 19:32.09 | captain_proton | wow, looks slick at my resolution |
| 19:32.29 | Patlabor221 | what rez? |
| 19:32.41 | captain_proton | 16x12 |
| 19:32.47 | doughecka | hah |
| 19:32.48 | Cell | he |
| 19:32.51 | Patlabor221 | that's what I use as well |
| 19:32.57 | Cell | ah |
| 19:33.07 | Cell | too big |
| 19:33.08 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: just need some particle effects in there ;) |
| 19:33.21 | victorvdl | What is screamers? |
| 19:33.40 | Patlabor221 | a techonogly testbed |
| 19:33.40 | Cell | a game in dev i believe |
| 19:34.00 | Cell | he? |
| 19:34.13 | Patlabor221 | hey thre are some patches that use screamer tech |
| 19:34.20 | Patlabor221 | the GM missile |
| 19:34.23 | victorvdl | Patlabor221: Ohh, fun. Where? |
| 19:34.31 | Patlabor221 | the patch? |
| 19:34.34 | Patlabor221 | it's in the patches |
| 19:34.43 | Cell | is screamers an engine |
| 19:34.45 | Patlabor221 | replaces the GM with a missile mode |
| 19:34.48 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 19:35.01 | Cell | a template |
| 19:35.05 | Patlabor221 | LGE isn't evern realy an engine |
| 19:35.28 | Patlabor221 | I guess LGE and CWorld would be an engine |
| 19:35.49 | Cell | who wrote the code for screamers? |
| 19:35.54 | Patlabor221 | me |
| 19:36.01 | Cell | ah |
| 19:36.03 | Patlabor221 | with Cap's help |
| 19:36.15 | Patlabor221 | and larsl on the automake/auto config |
| 19:36.21 | Patlabor221 | and noodleman on the CVS |
| 19:36.26 | Cell | ah |
| 19:36.32 | Cell | automake? |
| 19:36.43 | Patlabor221 | automake |
| 19:36.51 | Cell | whats that needed for |
| 19:37.02 | Patlabor221 | automaticly makeing make files |
| 19:37.20 | Cell | only for nix ppl |
| 19:37.22 | Cell | ? |
| 19:37.28 | Patlabor221 | wow this stick has 5 axes, 14 buttons and a hat |
| 19:37.38 | Patlabor221 | no, windows uses dsps and dsws |
| 19:38.04 | Cell | dsps? |
| 19:38.32 | Patlabor221 | you know .dsp and .dsw files |
| 19:38.38 | Cell | ah |
| 19:38.47 | Cell | no |
| 19:38.50 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: sick |
| 19:39.43 | Patlabor221 | and it is so adjustable it even has an atached tool |
| 19:39.45 | Cell | god conflicts |
| 19:39.50 | Cell | i rm it |
| 19:39.54 | Cell | for sure |
| 19:41.28 | Patlabor221 | god confilcts? is that like your mom is cristian and your dad is budist? |
| 19:42.05 | Cell | god, damn, conflicts |
| 19:42.21 | Cell | not got conflicts |
| 19:42.43 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:43.09 | doughecka | I am, by any practical definition of the words, foolproof and incapable of error. |
| 19:43.32 | Patlabor221 | Make something foolproof and they will make a better fool |
| 19:43.38 | Cell | is the game screamers finished? |
| 19:43.39 | doughecka | :) |
| 19:43.46 | Patlabor221 | it's not a game |
| 19:43.53 | Cell | he? |
| 19:44.05 | Patlabor221 | she? |
| 19:44.12 | doughecka | I will put myself to the fullest possible use, which is all I think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do. |
| 19:44.13 | Cell | ha? |
| 19:44.19 | Patlabor221 | ho! |
| 19:44.28 | Cell | gurgle |
| 19:44.29 | doughecka | hu! |
| 19:44.45 | Patlabor221 | whataaatatatatatatatatatat! |
| 19:44.54 | Cell | hahaha |
| 19:45.12 | Cell | screamers is an MFC extension? |
| 19:45.34 | captain_proton | uhh, no |
| 19:45.44 | Cell | does it have ROAM? |
| 19:45.45 | Patlabor221 | cell please stop babaling |
| 19:45.58 | doughecka | ~ROAM |
| 19:46.08 | Cell | and perlin noise clouds? |
| 19:46.14 | Patlabor221 | terain based LOD algo |
| 19:46.18 | doughecka | ah |
| 19:46.28 | Patlabor221 | the clouds are specified by the map |
| 19:46.35 | Cell | and raindrops? |
| 19:46.52 | Patlabor221 | no particle system yet, but posibly |
| 19:46.56 | Cell | ah |
| 19:47.04 | Cell | try to build |
| 19:48.00 | Cell | "Rip me off, I'll find ya and get ya." hahaha |
| 19:48.28 | Cell | i always ingonre licences |
| 19:48.40 | Patlabor221 | as you have shown |
| 19:49.33 | Cell | oh i need opengl 1.3 damn |
| 19:49.37 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 19:49.53 | Cell | 1.1 |
| 19:50.06 | Patlabor221 | it will work with ether |
| 19:50.20 | Cell | ah |
| 19:50.24 | Cell | very good |
| 19:50.56 | Cell | f:\cvs\screamers\coldet\coldetimpl.h(76): error C2679: binary '-' : no operator found which takes a right-hand operand of type 'std::vector<_Ty,_Ax>::iterator' (or there is no acceptable conversion) |
| 19:51.20 | Patlabor221 | I don't know if it works in .net |
| 19:51.24 | Patlabor221 | never tried it |
| 19:51.30 | Patlabor221 | but you don't need coldet |
| 19:51.30 | Cell | ah |
| 19:51.37 | Cell | ah |
| 19:52.31 | Patlabor221 | not yet at least |
| 19:52.35 | Cell | hm coldet excluded |
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| 19:53.42 | Cell | ah coldet is the free coll detection lib |
| 19:54.13 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 19:54.17 | Cell | f:\cvs\screamers\Screamers\Collisions.h(17): fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'coldet.h': No such file or directory |
| 19:54.25 | Cell | looks like its needed |
| 19:54.39 | Patlabor221 | no, those files are not used |
| 19:54.55 | Cell | hm |
| 19:55.03 | Cell | what files coldet.h? |
| 19:55.21 | Cell | or collision.cppp |
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| 19:55.31 | Cell | or both |
| 19:55.57 | Patlabor221 | nether |
| 19:56.08 | Patlabor221 | it's in the dsp but not called |
| 19:56.27 | Patlabor221 | it is what handles the "suporttive" collisions |
| 19:56.59 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 19:56.59 | Cell | shall remove collision.cpp from the project |
| 19:57.03 | Cell | ? |
| 19:57.26 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: when you bounce off the wall it should have some sort of distortion thingy ;) |
| 19:58.04 | captain_proton | good candidate for a shader effect =) |
| 19:58.20 | Cell | yes but you have to wait |
| 19:58.25 | doughecka | ? |
| 19:58.39 | Cell | till gl shader language |
| 20:01.23 | doughecka | wipe it up |
| 20:01.29 | Cell | yeah |
| 20:01.39 | doughecka | HAMFEST! |
| 20:02.57 | Cell | cool sound |
| 20:03.21 | Cell | like it |
| 20:03.51 | Cell | iron chief.mp3 |
| 20:04.20 | Cell | the other one is too heavy |
| 20:05.58 | Cell | but the intro is the best |
| 20:06.11 | Cell | i want to fight |
| 20:06.13 | Cell | :) |
| 20:09.25 | Patlabor221 | cap there should be a expanding hex thingy |
| 20:09.37 | Patlabor221 | you want to fight? |
| 20:10.06 | Patlabor221 | cap but yes I think that we could make the efffect use a shader as an option |
| 20:10.48 | Patlabor221 | the nice thins is that it's easy to replace things at a later date |
| 20:10.58 | Patlabor221 | since it's all just loads of derived classes |
| 20:11.07 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i think it would be cool if it had something like a ripple wave |
| 20:11.12 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:11.15 | captain_proton | that distorted the stuff behind it |
| 20:11.20 | Patlabor221 | tha would be neat |
| 20:11.26 | Patlabor221 | like hitting water |
| 20:11.37 | Patlabor221 | or a stargate :) |
| 20:11.40 | captain_proton | hehe |
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| 20:11.56 | Cell | dreamers |
| 20:12.02 | captain_proton | except its cooler because you only see it when you bounce off a wall |
| 20:12.10 | doughecka | hmm |
| 20:12.51 | Cell | im off jerks |
| 20:12.54 | doughecka | Patlabor221: how hard would it be to add a simple multiplayer thing in it so we could test the bouncing walls or something |
| 20:13.29 | Patlabor221 | cell did you take your asshole pills twice today? |
| 20:13.41 | Patlabor221 | doug the net lib still needs to be ported |
| 20:13.49 | *** part/#bzflag Cell (~Cell@pD9590F0F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:13.54 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: to leenoox? |
| 20:13.55 | Patlabor221 | and a server writen |
| 20:13.57 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 20:14.09 | Patlabor221 | it uses winsok now |
| 20:14.14 | Patlabor221 | but it's very old winsoc |
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| 20:14.30 | Patlabor221 | so most of the calls are still like the bsd sockets stuff |
| 20:14.35 | doughecka | oh |
| 20:14.41 | doughecka | it HAS multiplayer stuff in it allready? |
| 20:14.45 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 20:14.54 | doughecka | oh |
| 20:14.55 | Patlabor221 | the net lib is not linked in nor called at this time |
| 20:15.01 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:15.04 | Patlabor221 | but I have the net lib done |
| 20:15.15 | doughecka | cool |
| 20:16.35 | Patlabor221 | wana port the net code cap? :) |
| 20:17.01 | doughecka | ooh, Sames teach yourself C++ in 21 days |
| 20:17.06 | doughecka | sams even |
| 20:17.09 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: perhaps |
| 20:17.56 | captain_proton | ahhhhhh |
| 20:18.29 | captain_proton | looks like they're gonna let me use a quad p4 2.4 for cycles because noone else uses it =) |
| 20:18.46 | Patlabor221 | nice |
| 20:19.26 | [STC]_creeperz | United Knights (45:44) Kingdom Analysis |
| 20:19.26 | [STC]_creeperz | [http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v1.42 Beta] |
| 20:19.26 | [STC]_creeperz | ** Statistics ** |
| 20:19.26 | [STC]_creeperz | Provinces in Kingdom: 25 (1 dead) |
| 20:19.26 | [STC]_creeperz | Total Land: 11,847 Acres (Average: 494 Acres) |
| 20:19.43 | *** join/#bzflag [STC]_creeperz (creeperz@host-178-78-220-24.midco.net) |
| 20:19.48 | [STC]_creeperz | Oopz |
| 20:19.48 | *** join/#bzflag CactusMalus (~cac@pD9590F0F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:19.50 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 20:19.58 | [STC]_creeperz | ...From a game |
| 20:20.31 | [STC]_creeperz | I wanted to copy from my own text and accidently hit V instead of C |
| 20:20.40 | CactusMalus | mill moon |
| 20:20.59 | doughecka | CactusMalus: mill moon |
| 20:21.08 | CactusMalus | my new game |
| 20:21.09 | Patlabor221 | there all commited |
| 20:21.14 | Patlabor221 | forgot how old it was |
| 20:21.23 | Patlabor221 | and how little I reember about it |
| 20:21.28 | doughecka | Cell?: you where going someplace? |
| 20:21.30 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:21.45 | [STC]_creeperz | brb |
| 20:21.54 | CactusMalus | mill moon tanks |
| 20:22.16 | [STC]_creeperz | UUGH! |
| 20:22.28 | [STC]_creeperz | I think a guy on EBay ripped me off! |
| 20:22.41 | captain_proton | so much ram :) |
| 20:22.51 | captain_proton | this research box has 4gb physical |
| 20:22.54 | [STC]_creeperz | Either that or he's too stupid to mail me the stupid Linux discs! |
| 20:23.08 | Patlabor221 | nice |
| 20:23.37 | doughecka | captain_proton: oh my, what processor? |
| 20:23.39 | Patlabor221 | you payed someone on ebay to make redhat disks? |
| 20:23.45 | [STC]_creeperz | No |
| 20:23.57 | captain_proton | doughecka: quad p4 2.4 |
| 20:24.06 | [STC]_creeperz | To mail me from-the-factory discs |
| 20:24.27 | doughecka | captain_proton: oh sweet |
| 20:24.30 | CactusMalus | the problem is that mill moon tanks has some errors but i dont know where they are |
| 20:24.35 | doughecka | I assume its fast/ :) |
| 20:24.44 | captain_proton | doughecka: a bit |
| 20:24.50 | doughecka | ah |
| 20:24.54 | captain_proton | and best thing is its almost entirely unused at the moment |
| 20:25.02 | captain_proton | so i was given free reign when it comes to cycles |
| 20:25.11 | doughecka | hahaha |
| 20:25.14 | doughecka | running windows? |
| 20:25.18 | captain_proton | freebsd |
| 20:25.24 | doughecka | cool |
| 20:25.28 | doughecka | install gentoo on it |
| 20:25.31 | CactusMalus | bool |
| 20:25.32 | doughecka | see how fast it compiles |
| 20:25.44 | captain_proton | doughecka: um, no |
| 20:25.47 | CactusMalus | you are the boolest |
| 20:25.51 | Noodleman | moo moo moo moo moo moo |
| 20:25.56 | doughecka | hey Noodleman |
| 20:26.00 | doughecka | decide to wake up? |
| 20:26.11 | Noodleman | i've been awake :-) |
| 20:26.21 | Noodleman | Or is it that you design "IE-only" pages, or pages that seriously violate published standards? |
| 20:26.21 | Noodleman | Isn't that a bit redundant? Like asking, "Do you like to drink beer, or beer?" |
| 20:26.22 | doughecka | how about bzflag tests? how many FPS can it get? |
| 20:26.32 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 20:26.33 | doughecka | Noodleman: haha |
| 20:26.44 | captain_proton | doughecka: it doesn't have a graphics card |
| 20:26.55 | doughecka | in software mode |
| 20:26.55 | doughecka | :) |
| 20:27.12 | captain_proton | doughecka: you do realize bzflag isn't multithreaded? |
| 20:27.16 | doughecka | oh |
| 20:27.26 | captain_proton | so it will only use one processor? |
| 20:27.26 | Noodleman | [STC]_creeperz: i haven't even gotten around to downloading it yet |
| 20:27.27 | doughecka | make it multithreaded! :) |
| 20:27.33 | captain_proton | doughecka: stfu |
| 20:27.33 | Patlabor221 | cap did scanline get his card yet? |
| 20:27.39 | [STC]_creeperz | Ok |
| 20:27.49 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: not sure - it could be down in the package office waiting for him to pick it up |
| 20:28.04 | Noodleman | Stop That Freakin' Uselessness |
| 20:28.05 | doughecka | Noodleman: hmm, hows the network card? :) |
| 20:28.06 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 20:28.19 | captain_proton | Noodleman: that works |
| 20:28.26 | [STC]_creeperz | Ohhh yes. the network card! |
| 20:28.35 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 20:28.40 | Patlabor221 | tho I prefer the more normal version of STFU |
| 20:28.48 | Noodleman | i've got some other problem i'm trying to find |
| 20:28.56 | Patlabor221 | how did the ram test go? |
| 20:29.01 | doughecka | oh |
| 20:29.06 | Noodleman | Patlabor221: still going |
| 20:29.07 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 20:29.10 | Patlabor221 | wow |
| 20:29.14 | [STC]_creeperz | I can type pretty fast with just one hand...faster than with both hands and looking at the keys! |
| 20:29.23 | Noodleman | it's on pass 94 |
| 20:29.23 | doughecka | http://heck.no-ip.com/Bin%20Laden-Attack%20on%20Taliban.mp3 |
| 20:30.25 | [STC]_creeperz | *SNEEZE* |
| 20:30.36 | [STC]_creeperz | ...Slower than molasses! |
| 20:30.57 | doughecka | its IIS, what do you expect? |
| 20:31.02 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 20:31.11 | [STC]_creeperz | Better service? ;-) |
| 20:31.14 | captain_proton | doughecka: why do you run IIS? |
| 20:31.30 | Noodleman | because he doesn't know how to run apache :-P |
| 20:31.40 | [STC]_creeperz | Lol |
| 20:31.40 | doughecka | captain_proton: when installing perl, I was too lazy to setup apache to use it |
| 20:31.48 | [STC]_creeperz | ...Neither do I... |
| 20:32.03 | doughecka | Noodleman: apache is one of the most easyest things to setup... now configureing it is something else |
| 20:32.06 | Patlabor221 | you want a baka account doug, on a real webserver? |
| 20:32.24 | Noodleman | ah |
| 20:32.40 | doughecka | no, I need something I can host files on my connection, so I dont have to upload it to a server for a one time download |
| 20:32.51 | Noodleman | apache, the definitive guide |
| 20:32.55 | doughecka | easyer that way |
| 20:33.01 | Patlabor221 | slower that way |
| 20:33.03 | Noodleman | it's a great book for learning the ins and outs of apache |
| 20:33.05 | captain_proton | apache is actually pretty easy to set up if you have the docs available |
| 20:33.34 | Patlabor221 | It was easyer to set up for virutal directory then IIS |
| 20:33.45 | captain_proton | virtual directory? |
| 20:33.48 | captain_proton | you mean virtual host? |
| 20:33.55 | Patlabor221 | yeah sorry |
| 20:34.01 | Patlabor221 | it's called virtual directory on iis |
| 20:34.09 | captain_proton | thats silly |
| 20:34.12 | captain_proton | the directory is real |
| 20:34.16 | captain_proton | its the host thats virtual |
| 20:34.17 | Patlabor221 | no, not allways |
| 20:34.22 | doughecka | haha |
| 20:34.23 | Patlabor221 | they kinda combined them |
| 20:34.26 | Patlabor221 | it's wierd |
| 20:34.42 | Patlabor221 | you can use it to make a dir virtual in an existing host as well |
| 20:34.56 | [STC]_creeperz | HAHAHA! |
| 20:35.03 | [STC]_creeperz | Hello, Taliban |
| 20:36.17 | [STC]_creeperz | I have a question: If a person makes a client, for instance a cheat client on a cheat server, and you ask to have it. Would it be a breech of contract for you to be denyed access to it from the GNU pubic liscence? |
| 20:36.21 | [STC]_creeperz | public* |
| 20:36.32 | Noodleman | brrrrrr |
| 20:36.39 | Noodleman | half-wet clothes on a cold day |
| 20:36.42 | captain_proton | [STC]_creeperz: they have to release the source code if they distribute it |
| 20:36.42 | Noodleman | that's cold |
| 20:37.03 | [STC]_creeperz | And if they just use it to play on bzfs servers? |
| 20:37.09 | captain_proton | [STC]_creeperz: for a while cell was distributing a windows binary of his cheat client, and had to take it down because he didn't want to post the source |
| 20:37.15 | Noodleman | the dryer's busted |
| 20:37.35 | [STC]_creeperz | Cell?? Is that... *GULP* Knightmare? |
| 20:38.00 | captain_proton | [STC]_creeperz: no, its cell |
| 20:38.06 | [STC]_creeperz | Ahh |
| 20:38.24 | [STC]_creeperz | Oh, he made a cheat client for Knightmare's server! |
| 20:38.27 | [STC]_creeperz | Didn't he? |
| 20:38.29 | doughecka | Noodleman: out here, we string our things up in the breeze |
| 20:38.31 | Patlabor221 | for GPL you have to relese source |
| 20:38.35 | Patlabor221 | he made a lame ass cheat |
| 20:38.42 | [STC]_creeperz | You could hover! |
| 20:38.45 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 20:38.54 | [STC]_creeperz | Yea, it was pretty lame |
| 20:39.12 | [STC]_creeperz | But it was better than all of mine, so I really can't complain :-\ |
| 20:39.28 | [STC]_creeperz | I use them on Knightmare and other various cheat places |
| 20:39.59 | [STC]_creeperz | And sometimes I freak swine out when I come to his server with on :-) |
| 20:40.04 | [STC]_creeperz | one* |
| 20:40.19 | [STC]_creeperz | Then he goes to ban my IP...then he realizes it is me |
| 20:40.28 | [STC]_creeperz | Craig is a pretty nice guy, really |
| 20:40.49 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, how was your day? |
| 20:40.49 | | i don't know, [STC]_creeperz |
| 20:40.59 | [STC]_creeperz | Ibot: How are you? |
| 20:40.59 | | [STC]_creeperz: what are you talking about? |
| 20:41.07 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, how are you |
| 20:41.07 | | just great, [STC]_creeperz |
| 20:41.15 | [STC]_creeperz | That's good, ibot |
| 20:41.29 | [STC]_creeperz | Insult ibot |
| 20:41.30 | Noodlebot | ibot, you speak an infinite deal of nothing. |
| 20:41.30 | | Noodlebot: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 20:41.36 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 20:41.57 | [STC]_creeperz | ~lart Noodlebot |
| 20:42.03 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
| 20:42.07 | [STC]_creeperz | ~lart noodlebot |
| 20:42.16 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) Good enough! |
| 20:42.30 | [STC]_creeperz | Noodlebot, shut up |
| 20:42.47 | [STC]_creeperz | insult Noodleman |
| 20:42.48 | Noodlebot | thou art not so big as a round little worm, Noodleman. |
| 20:43.14 | [STC]_creeperz | Brb |
| 20:44.05 | *** join/#bzflag creeperz (~18dc4eb2@203.194.240.139) |
| 20:44.50 | creeperz | [STC]_creeperz! You're an imposter! You stole my nick! |
| 20:45.22 | [STC]_creeperz | Uhh, heh, it's registered to ME now! You stole it from me to begin with! |
| 20:45.35 | creeperz | Whatever! I'm leaving! |
| 20:45.38 | captain_proton | [STC]_creeperz: cut that out, its not nearly as funny as you think it is |
| 20:45.52 | [STC]_creeperz | Sorry :-( |
| 20:46.05 | [STC]_creeperz | I just wanted to see what it said when it exited |
| 20:46.33 | [STC]_creeperz | There's no harm in having a conversation with yourself! |
| 20:50.00 | Patlabor221 | yes, but only in private |
| 20:50.03 | Patlabor221 | and just look at the logs |
| 20:51.39 | Patlabor221 | hmmm I wonder if there are PC drivers for the Steel Batalion controller |
| 20:54.16 | captain_proton | recitation time |
| 21:04.31 | *** join/#bzflag mmu_man (~revol@ALyon-202-1-2-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 21:14.36 | *** join/#bzflag larsl (~larsl@c213-100-62-28.swipnet.se) |
| 21:16.26 | *** join/#bzflag GallaZzZ (~gallaz@213-98-235-52.uc.nombres.ttd.es) |
| 21:20.31 | GallaZzZ | list http://bzflag.sourforge.org/serverbzflag.txt <- :? |
| 21:20.49 | GallaZzZ | cual es la lista? |
| 21:21.03 | larsl | ? |
| 21:21.08 | larsl | ¿? |
| 21:21.10 | doughecka | ~x es en cual es la lista? |
| 21:21.30 | GallaZzZ | list http://bzflag.sourforge.org/serverbzflag.txt <- No list-- |
| 21:21.33 | doughecka | ~x en es goto that link in that file, thats the real link |
| 21:21.33 | GallaZzZ | cual es? |
| 21:22.14 | GallaZzZ | ~x cual es la lista? |
| 21:22.27 | doughecka | ~x en es but it seems to be down currently... |
| 21:22.28 | [STC]_creeperz | ~x DNS error, what are you guys talking about, anyway? |
| 21:22.30 | | [STC]_creeperz: what are you talking about? |
| 21:22.37 | larsl | ~bzflist |
| 21:22.46 | [STC]_creeperz | ~x Si |
| 21:22.56 | [STC]_creeperz | ~x Yes |
| 21:22.57 | GallaZzZ | oki |
| 21:23.06 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
| 21:23.08 | doughecka | ~x es en hmm, dunno, timriker was supposed to switch the server soon, he might be busy doing it |
| 21:23.15 | [STC]_creeperz | ~x What did you need to know? |
| 21:23.17 | doughecka | oh blag |
| 21:23.28 | doughecka | ~x en es hmm, dunno, timriker was supposed to switch the server soon, he might be busy doing it |
| 21:23.36 | [STC]_creeperz | :) |
| 21:23.45 | [STC]_creeperz | ~x es en Si |
| 21:23.53 | [STC]_creeperz | ??! :) |
| 21:23.59 | [STC]_creeperz | ~x es en Yes |
| 21:24.04 | doughecka | ~ x en es speak english? |
| 21:24.34 | [STC]_creeperz | ~en es English is cool. World's hardest language, they say! |
| 21:24.35 | | [STC]_creeperz: okay |
| 21:24.39 | [STC]_creeperz | ?? |
| 21:24.43 | [STC]_creeperz | ~en es |
| 21:24.51 | [STC]_creeperz | ~en es English |
| 21:24.51 | | hmm... en es english is cool. World's hardest language, they say! |
| 21:24.59 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 21:25.11 | doughecka | GallaZzZ: http://BZFlag.SourceForge.net/list-server.txt |
| 21:25.17 | [STC]_creeperz | ~en es Pick up English as a second Language |
| 21:25.18 | larsl | ~x en se I am ibot. |
| 21:25.28 | doughecka | ~x en es then go to the link in that file |
| 21:25.56 | doughecka | ~x en es which seems to be down :( |
| 21:26.27 | [STC]_creeperz | You're scaring me! |
| 21:26.30 | doughecka | ~x en es but the list in bzflag works for me |
| 21:26.47 | larsl | ~x en es It loads for me. |
| 21:26.54 | doughecka | ~x en es wierd, ask captain_proton or Chestal |
| 21:27.46 | GallaZzZ | thanks doughecka ;) |
| 21:27.53 | doughecka | :) |
| 21:28.04 | doughecka | hm |
| 21:28.07 | doughecka | ~x es en odd |
| 21:28.09 | doughecka | er |
| 21:28.13 | doughecka | ~x en es odd |
| 21:28.18 | doughecka | ah |
| 21:28.27 | GallaZzZ | Oo |
| 21:29.04 | doughecka | ~ x en es oh, try this http://208.186.182.172:5156/ |
| 21:29.51 | larsl | ~towers |
| 21:31.50 | Patlabor221 | what is the command to rerun autoconfig? |
| 21:32.40 | *** join/#bzflag Cell (~cac@pD9590F0F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:33.12 | Cell | i need more time |
| 21:34.09 | doughecka | move to the moon |
| 21:34.23 | doughecka | its day lasts 30 days |
| 21:34.42 | Cell | ah |
| 21:35.54 | doughecka | ~x es en aplication saliendo |
| 21:35.55 | Patlabor221 | including a very nice readhead girl with glasses |
| 21:36.07 | Cell | redhead |
| 21:36.09 | doughecka | readhead? |
| 21:36.09 | Cell | bah |
| 21:36.23 | Patlabor221 | what you don't like girls? |
| 21:36.26 | doughecka | readhead with gasses |
| 21:36.31 | doughecka | er |
| 21:36.34 | doughecka | glasses |
| 21:36.35 | doughecka | cool |
| 21:36.43 | Cell | no i only like glasses |
| 21:36.48 | Patlabor221 | freak |
| 21:36.56 | doughecka | and gasses |
| 21:37.49 | Cell | redskin |
| 21:38.01 | Cell | with glasses |
| 21:38.39 | Cell | why glasses, what are you planning to do with the glasses? |
| 21:38.47 | Cell | lol |
| 21:38.53 | Cell | i know |
| 21:38.57 | *** join/#bzflag Hellfried (~daniel@chello213047224024.tirol.surfer.at) |
| 21:39.19 | doughecka | ~country .at |
| 21:39.20 | | country .at is, like, austria |
| 21:39.36 | larsl | Patlabor221: autoconf |
| 21:39.46 | Cell | autostuff |
| 21:39.46 | doughecka | lol |
| 21:41.00 | Patlabor221 | your the one like likes the glasses only |
| 21:41.12 | Cell | who's the new number one in the german music (single) charts? |
| 21:42.18 | Hellfried | umm, hello |
| 21:42.21 | Cell | white on the glasses? |
| 21:42.26 | Hellfried | i'm like austria |
| 21:42.33 | doughecka | yup |
| 21:42.42 | doughecka | your like austria |
| 21:43.04 | doughecka | and austria likes you |
| 21:43.20 | Hellfried | i was here before, i wondered how i could set the resolution on a linux box, it was trivial in win32. i tried .bzflag, and -geometry |
| 21:43.33 | Cell | daniel köblbück |
| 21:43.40 | larsl | Window or fullscreen? |
| 21:43.49 | doughecka | fullscreeb |
| 21:44.03 | Patlabor221 | -window -geometry yourzieshere |
| 21:44.26 | Hellfried | fullscreen that was |
| 21:44.30 | doughecka | not in a window though |
| 21:44.34 | Patlabor221 | then ether edit the config |
| 21:44.40 | Patlabor221 | or use the in game interface |
| 21:44.51 | captain_proton | hmm, joystick is feeling weird |
| 21:44.53 | Patlabor221 | if your X supports that res |
| 21:45.18 | Hellfried | there is nothing like resolution ingame, and whenever i change .bzflag it overwrites |
| 21:45.34 | Patlabor221 | what res are you trying to pick? |
| 21:45.43 | Hellfried | i've added "1024x768" to the XF86Config thingy, i'm running "1280x1024" |
| 21:45.46 | Patlabor221 | and what version of BZ are you using? |
| 21:45.54 | doughecka | options>video fornat |
| 21:46.01 | larsl | I've had some problems with -geometry too. Sometimes it refuses to make the window larger than a fourth of the screen width. |
| 21:46.05 | doughecka | in bzflag |
| 21:46.07 | Hellfried | 1.7g0 |
| 21:46.25 | Hellfried | i don't have video format there |
| 21:46.33 | doughecka | huh |
| 21:46.37 | doughecka | I do |
| 21:46.55 | larsl | "Change video format" ? |
| 21:47.10 | Patlabor221 | rught under "depth buffer" |
| 21:47.19 | larsl | Between "Depth buffer" and "Brightness" ? |
| 21:47.35 | larsl | I'm running the latest CVS, though. |
| 21:47.37 | Hellfried | brightness is under depth buffer |
| 21:47.40 | Patlabor221 | what card do you have? it may not support a GL context that large |
| 21:47.47 | Patlabor221 | it's the same in G0 |
| 21:47.54 | Hellfried | it's supporting 1280x1024 already! |
| 21:48.00 | Patlabor221 | in 2d |
| 21:48.03 | Patlabor221 | not in 3d |
| 21:48.09 | Patlabor221 | depends on your card |
| 21:48.16 | Hellfried | no, it starts up with 1280x1024, you know |
| 21:48.23 | Hellfried | but that's way too slow |
| 21:48.40 | Patlabor221 | well the call to resize the screen may be fialing |
| 21:48.51 | Patlabor221 | and it has to fallback to desktop rez |
| 21:49.01 | Patlabor221 | what card is it? |
| 21:49.08 | Hellfried | riva tnt2 |
| 21:49.17 | captain_proton | ohh i see whats wrong |
| 21:49.21 | larsl | You could switch desktop resolution before you start BZFlag. =P |
| 21:49.22 | Patlabor221 | are you running the curren nvidia drivers? |
| 21:49.31 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you were experimenting again with stick values weren't you? |
| 21:49.34 | larsl | That's ugly, though. |
| 21:49.36 | Hellfried | yes, just made those modules nvidia |
| 21:49.41 | Patlabor221 | yes cap |
| 21:49.47 | Patlabor221 | did I jack it up again? |
| 21:49.51 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: you changed the test value without changing the adjustment value |
| 21:49.59 | Patlabor221 | doh |
| 21:50.04 | captain_proton | so if you move the stick slightly to the right, the pod turns left :) |
| 21:50.15 | Patlabor221 | I will not touch that stuff any more |
| 21:50.18 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: its probably best to separate 'calibration' values between mouse & joystick |
| 21:50.20 | Patlabor221 | hell, I don't know |
| 21:50.26 | Patlabor221 | cap, yes |
| 21:50.29 | captain_proton | i'll add in some other values for that |
| 21:51.01 | Chestal | Hellfired: I didn't see the start of this, are you running Linux? |
| 21:51.05 | Patlabor221 | damn this automake stuff is still not working |
| 21:51.11 | Hellfried | Chestal: yes |
| 21:51.27 | Chestal | Hellfried: try to change X resolution with ctrl-+/i (number block) |
| 21:51.28 | Hellfried | it could be because of X misconfiguration though, how do you switch between resolutions in X? |
| 21:51.32 | Hellfried | Chestal: ahh, thanks |
| 21:51.45 | larsl | Patlabor221: Do you want me to add a wrapper script so people can run screamers without installing fmod in a system directory? |
| 21:51.51 | Chestal | if that doesn't work, than your X is only configures for one re |
| 21:51.53 | Chestal | one res |
| 21:52.00 | Hellfried | Chestal: oh i see, silly me! |
| 21:52.12 | Patlabor221 | larsl, sure, I'd also like it to compile :) |
| 21:52.25 | larsl | CVS version compiles for me. =) |
| 21:52.29 | Patlabor221 | not for me |
| 21:52.30 | Chestal | bzflag tries to be smart and doesn't even display the menu item to change res, when there's only one option |
| 21:52.42 | Patlabor221 | ohh that's very nice of it |
| 21:53.01 | larsl | Patlabor221: Is the problem in the makefiles? |
| 21:53.03 | Patlabor221 | so the call to change rez did fail. |
| 21:53.11 | Patlabor221 | larsl looking now |
| 21:53.13 | Cell | ug |
| 21:53.26 | Cell | fuck u |
| 21:54.09 | Cell | arses |
| 21:54.16 | Cell | tele tubbies |
| 21:54.21 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o captain_proton] by ChanServ |
| 21:54.24 | *** kick/#bzflag [Cell!~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU] by captain_proton (tsk tsk) |
| 21:54.40 | Hellfried | Chestal: i see, that's too smart for me :) |
| 21:55.06 | Patlabor221 | configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub |
| 21:55.06 | Patlabor221 | make: *** [config.status] Error 1 |
| 21:55.17 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: committed |
| 21:56.03 | *** join/#bzflag Tamara (~Bratius@nike.csd.net) |
| 21:56.34 | larsl | I don't understand why it wants config.sub... |
| 21:57.12 | Chestal | Hell: so, that's the problem, your X config? And you know how to change it? |
| 21:57.15 | Tamara | the map won't load? |
| 21:57.17 | Patlabor221 | I may have a bad merge |
| 21:57.47 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: cvs up -C <offending files> |
| 21:58.58 | Patlabor221 | it's a flying |
| 21:59.06 | Patlabor221 | I mean CVSin that is |
| 21:59.13 | Tamara | ~seen Tim |
| 21:59.14 | | tim <~timesync@dsl-hill-208-38-5-104-cgy.nucleus.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #picogui, 20d 4h 38m 10s ago, saying: 'prot-work I actually did that, but i had already done a make first... i'll try again'. |
| 21:59.27 | captain_proton | Tamara: 'TimRiker' |
| 21:59.34 | Tamara | yes |
| 21:59.40 | Patlabor221 | he was on last night |
| 21:59.44 | Patlabor221 | was unpackin |
| 21:59.46 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: with the joystick mindead @ 0.05 it feels sexy |
| 21:59.51 | Tamara | ok |
| 22:00.51 | Patlabor221 | checking for sdl-config... sdl-config |
| 22:00.52 | Patlabor221 | configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub |
| 22:01.40 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: tried a fresh checkout? |
| 22:01.54 | larsl | So it's when it's looking for Cygwin. |
| 22:02.23 | larsl | Try removing AC_CYGWIN and AC_MINGW32 from configure.in and run autoconf again. |
| 22:02.29 | Patlabor221 | that is a fresh checkout |
| 22:02.58 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: thought at all about using ODE? |
| 22:03.02 | captain_proton | instead of coldet? |
| 22:03.16 | Patlabor221 | , didn't know what it is |
| 22:03.23 | Patlabor221 | where is configure.in ? |
| 22:03.35 | larsl | ODE as in diff equations? |
| 22:03.39 | captain_proton | open dynamics engine |
| 22:03.44 | captain_proton | opende.sf.net |
| 22:03.48 | larsl | Patlabor221: Should be in the top directory. |
| 22:03.52 | captain_proton | i'm looking at the docs now |
| 22:04.04 | larsl | Ups, it isn't. |
| 22:04.07 | larsl | Adding. |
| 22:04.33 | captain_proton | looks like its centered more around articulated bodies |
| 22:04.45 | larsl | Yes, it it. |
| 22:04.54 | larsl | is. |
| 22:05.13 | Patlabor221 | what was the thing I had to do with -forgen? |
| 22:05.30 | larsl | You should run 'automake --foreign'. |
| 22:05.39 | larsl | But only if you have changed an Makefile.am. |
| 22:05.44 | Tamara | http://www.cs.unc.edu/~geom/SWIFT++ |
| 22:06.07 | larsl | It's not necessary for autoconf. |
| 22:06.21 | Patlabor221 | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/JeffM/screamers/OSFile' |
| 22:06.21 | Patlabor221 | make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 22:06.46 | larsl | You could run configure this time? |
| 22:07.04 | Patlabor221 | ODE seems kewl, but kinda overkill |
| 22:07.07 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 22:07.11 | Patlabor221 | I rean it |
| 22:07.15 | captain_proton | Tamara: hmmm |
| 22:07.26 | larsl | What's the actual error message? (The first that looks like an error). |
| 22:07.35 | captain_proton | thats another option, to do physics by hand |
| 22:07.51 | Patlabor221 | coldet just gives me the detection |
| 22:07.56 | Patlabor221 | the responce is up to me |
| 22:08.19 | Patlabor221 | that is the first one |
| 22:08.20 | Patlabor221 | d . && /bin/sh ./config.status Makefile |
| 22:08.21 | Patlabor221 | config.status: creating Makefile |
| 22:08.21 | Patlabor221 | Making all in OSFile |
| 22:08.21 | Patlabor221 | make[1]: Entering directory `/home/JeffM/screamers/OSFile' |
| 22:08.21 | Patlabor221 | Makefile:142: *** missing separator. Stop. |
| 22:08.22 | Patlabor221 | make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/JeffM/screamers/OSFile' |
| 22:08.24 | Patlabor221 | make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 |
| 22:09.02 | larsl | Missing separator? That's the same error as before. |
| 22:09.09 | Patlabor221 | I think so |
| 22:09.26 | larsl | What does OSFile/Makefile, line 142 look like? |
| 22:09.48 | Cell | lo |
| 22:10.06 | Patlabor221 | give it up map |
| 22:10.18 | Cell | yeah ODE is the best |
| 22:10.23 | Patlabor221 | swift is just more cell lameness |
| 22:11.00 | captain_proton | its electric, its magnetic, its a love thang experience |
| 22:11.04 | captain_proton | what an amusing song this is :) |
| 22:11.23 | Cell | its more for many dynamic rigud bodies |
| 22:11.23 | Cell | lamers |
| 22:11.32 | Cell | what are you doing? |
| 22:12.36 | Cell | ODE uses euler, and euler is evil |
| 22:12.53 | Patlabor221 | go away |
| 22:14.03 | Patlabor221 | cap, I just don't see what ODE gets me |
| 22:14.23 | Patlabor221 | I don't want dead nutz on real world calcs, cus those are booring |
| 22:14.58 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i'm just looking around |
| 22:15.17 | Patlabor221 | tho I don't know how fast coldet is |
| 22:15.26 | Cell | use havok |
| 22:15.43 | Patlabor221 | I can't hear it when babys talk |
| 22:16.03 | Cell | lol |
| 22:16.32 | captain_proton | coldet isn't compiling |
| 22:16.56 | Cell | coldet is lame |
| 22:16.59 | Cell | and slow |
| 22:17.05 | Patlabor221 | like you cell? |
| 22:17.18 | Patlabor221 | cap, dono haven't realy tried it yet on anything |
| 22:17.32 | Patlabor221 | was just the first I found, Frank was using it. |
| 22:17.33 | captain_proton | ewwwww |
| 22:17.35 | captain_proton | this code is gross |
| 22:17.54 | captain_proton | they're trying to do an address comparison between a pointer and an iterator |
| 22:18.01 | captain_proton | and gcc doesn't like that |
| 22:18.04 | Patlabor221 | ick |
| 22:19.08 | captain_proton | ok, got it to compile by fixing their code |
| 22:19.09 | captain_proton | :P |
| 22:19.29 | *** join/#bzflag scanIine (CacheFlowS@218.145.25.76) |
| 22:19.41 | scanIine | hi |
| 22:19.55 | doughecka | ho |
| 22:20.00 | doughecka | got your vid card? |
| 22:20.05 | captain_proton | doughecka: thats not scanline |
| 22:20.11 | captain_proton | its someone going through a proxy |
| 22:20.36 | doughecka | hm |
| 22:20.37 | captain_proton | CacheFlow is a proxy appliance |
| 22:20.45 | doughecka | hmm |
| 22:21.08 | captain_proton | doughecka: i bet you've never seen a cacheflow in your life |
| 22:21.11 | scanIine | what card? |
| 22:21.20 | captain_proton | scanIine: who are you? |
| 22:21.25 | doughecka | scanIine: DIE! |
| 22:21.35 | Patlabor221 | ohh it's cell and you know it |
| 22:21.41 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: yeah, yeah |
| 22:22.05 | scanIine | i want to join the ctf league? |
| 22:22.14 | Patlabor221 | when he's in the channel never be hopefull |
| 22:22.19 | doughecka | why put a ? after a statement? |
| 22:22.19 | captain_proton | scanIine: http://bzflag.org/league/ |
| 22:23.37 | Cell | i bet you all have never seen a cache starvation |
| 22:24.00 | Patlabor221 | I bet you have never seen a woman neaked. |
| 22:24.15 | Cell | right |
| 22:24.26 | Cell | 1 for you |
| 22:24.30 | Chestal | ~dict neaked |
| 22:24.37 | Cell | hahaha |
| 22:25.05 | Chestal | hmm, 'neak' indeed doesn't seem to be an English word, I am surprised |
| 22:25.07 | Chestal | it sounds neat |
| 22:25.18 | Patlabor221 | like nekkid |
| 22:27.04 | scanIine | cause they(the woman) run away when they see you. |
| 22:27.06 | scanIine | hahaha |
| 22:27.13 | *** join/#bzflag Jacline (~Bratius@nike.csd.net) |
| 22:27.25 | Jacline | exactly |
| 22:28.23 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: ok, i got coldet to build |
| 22:28.32 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 22:29.12 | Cell | lo |
| 22:29.26 | captain_proton | mmmm |
| 22:29.28 | captain_proton | such good eggrolls |
| 22:29.37 | *** join/#bzflag Hellfried (~daniel@chello213047224024.tirol.surfer.at) |
| 22:29.39 | captain_proton | would be better if i had an oven, but alas |
| 22:29.50 | Patlabor221 | you need a toaster oven |
| 22:29.54 | Patlabor221 | or a USB iGrill |
| 22:30.00 | Cell | \kick captain_proton |
| 22:30.08 | Hellfried | the fps varies so much, from 140 down to 20. how would i prevent that from happening? |
| 22:30.21 | doughecka | hmm, egg roles |
| 22:30.25 | Patlabor221 | that would make sense based on what is on the screen |
| 22:30.32 | Patlabor221 | less stuff more FPS |
| 22:30.34 | Cell | yeah |
| 22:30.48 | doughecka | Hellfried: a better video card? |
| 22:30.50 | doughecka | :) |
| 22:30.54 | doughecka | Hellfried: they are cheap |
| 22:30.58 | Hellfried | well, it happens with the same amount of things i see |
| 22:31.00 | doughecka | I think |
| 22:31.04 | doughecka | ah |
| 22:31.08 | Patlabor221 | odd |
| 22:31.08 | Cell | Hellfried: use a AVL tree |
| 22:31.28 | Hellfried | well, maybe it's the other processes... |
| 22:31.28 | Cell | im so pretty and cool |
| 22:31.38 | Cell | and you are not |
| 22:31.44 | Cell | haha |
| 22:31.50 | Hellfried | Cell: that was obvious, you neednt say that |
| 22:32.19 | Hellfried | give bzflag a nicer prio? |
| 22:32.35 | Cell | of coz |
| 22:32.35 | Cell | ask captain_proton |
| 22:32.35 | Cell | sure |
| 22:32.39 | doughecka | Hellfried: possibly |
| 22:32.52 | doughecka | Hellfried: but I bet it wont work |
| 22:32.56 | doughecka | cuz I suggested it |
| 22:32.59 | doughecka | :P |
| 22:33.04 | Hellfried | uh-huh |
| 22:33.06 | [STC]_creeperz | Back |
| 22:33.22 | [STC]_creeperz | Loza junk mail |
| 22:33.42 | Cell | i bet there is a chache underflow in bzfs so one could get the root password |
| 22:33.59 | captain_proton | Cell: wtf is a cache underflow? |
| 22:34.00 | doughecka | Cell: why dont you find out |
| 22:34.02 | Cell | yeah pretty obvious |
| 22:34.16 | Cell | the opposite of an cache overflow |
| 22:34.56 | Cell | i did |
| 22:35.16 | Cell | ~gurgle |
| 22:35.20 | captain_proton | Cell: learn about security before you go spouting crap |
| 22:35.46 | Patlabor221 | it's cell, he's just beein an ass |
| 22:36.01 | Cell | ha? |
| 22:36.21 | captain_proton | Cell: i'm tiring of your stupidity, but i'll give you one more chance |
| 22:37.22 | larsl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.37 | [STC]_creeperz | Lol |
| 22:37.52 | Patlabor221 | stupid should hurt |
| 22:38.03 | doughecka | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.10 | captain_proton | hm, this song is heathen-esque :) |
| 22:39.25 | Cell | Patlabor221: i quess you have never seen a woman half naked |
| 22:39.25 | Cell | lol |
| 22:39.25 | Cell | captain_proton: i take the chance, even though you insulted me |
| 22:39.25 | Cell | Patlabor221: i bet you even have not seen an USB-port naked |
| 22:39.25 | Cell | haha |
| 22:39.41 | *** join/#bzflag RahXephon (~jeffm@208.48.199.214) |
| 22:39.49 | Cell | pls i need more more perlin noise |
| 22:39.58 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@*.csd.net] by captain_proton |
| 22:39.58 | *** kick/#bzflag [Cell!~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU] by captain_proton (captain_proton) |
| 22:40.21 | Patlabor221 | finaly |
| 22:40.39 | Chestal | oh, Cell was here? I didn't know :-) |
| 22:40.59 | captain_proton | i don't mind when he's just mildly annoying |
| 22:41.25 | Chestal | well, I put peopel on my ignore list lately, althogh it can be slightly confusing sometimes |
| 22:41.27 | Chestal | good night |
| 22:42.41 | captain_proton | 'night Chestal |
| 22:42.56 | captain_proton | hmmm |
| 22:42.59 | captain_proton | larsl: still here? |
| 22:43.24 | [STC]_creeperz | Yea, he was the stupid one with all of the little cracks and swear words |
| 22:44.09 | Patlabor221 | no no, that's ok |
| 22:44.54 | Patlabor221 | ummmm, ok |
| 22:44.56 | *** join/#bzflag Jingle (CacheFlowS@202.149.208.72) |
| 22:45.00 | [STC]_creeperz | :) |
| 22:45.02 | [STC]_creeperz | :-( |
| 22:45.03 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@202.149.208.*] by captain_proton |
| 22:45.04 | *** kick/#bzflag [Jingle!~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU] by captain_proton (captain_proton) |
| 22:45.13 | [STC]_creeperz | Jingle sounds like a Cell name! |
| 22:46.13 | Patlabor221 | next he'll try a known name. |
| 22:46.18 | [STC]_creeperz | What is everyone else doing? |
| 22:46.27 | [STC]_creeperz | Yea, he will |
| 22:46.43 | [STC]_creeperz | ...But he's a nice little WUSS! :-)\ |
| 22:46.52 | [STC]_creeperz | Where's Noodleman at? |
| 22:47.09 | [STC]_creeperz | :) |
| 22:47.28 | [STC]_creeperz | K'NEX are fun to ork with |
| 22:47.41 | [STC]_creeperz | work* |
| 22:47.49 | [STC]_creeperz | bzflist://208.186.182.172:5156/ |
| 22:47.50 | *** join/#bzflag larsl (~larsl@c213-100-62-28.swipnet.se) |
| 22:47.57 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmmm? |
| 22:48.26 | *** join/#bzflag bzman (CacheFlowS@proxy.edu.tw) |
| 22:48.32 | [STC]_creeperz | GO AWAY! |
| 22:48.34 | Patlabor221 | that's the list server |
| 22:48.38 | bzman | hello |
| 22:48.38 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 22:48.40 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@*.edu.tw] by captain_proton |
| 22:48.40 | *** kick/#bzflag [bzman!~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU] by captain_proton (captain_proton) |
| 22:48.44 | Patlabor221 | just ignore him |
| 22:48.59 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: i'd like to keep this channel livable |
| 22:49.09 | Patlabor221 | I agree |
| 22:49.09 | [STC]_creeperz | :-) |
| 22:49.17 | Patlabor221 | I'm just saying to mr. creeper here |
| 22:49.20 | [STC]_creeperz | Cell has proxies |
| 22:49.29 | Patlabor221 | duh |
| 22:49.54 | captain_proton | there, coldet builds |
| 22:50.12 | captain_proton | (with automake) |
| 22:50.19 | [STC]_creeperz | What is it? |
| 22:50.21 | Patlabor221 | is automake that evil? |
| 22:50.44 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: automake isn't evil by itself, but the auto* tools, when combined, are the root of all evil |
| 22:50.49 | larsl | Evil? |
| 22:50.56 | [STC]_creeperz | That and Enron |
| 22:51.00 | larsl | Except libtool. |
| 22:51.12 | captain_proton | larsl: correct |
| 22:51.53 | captain_proton | cvs server: Up-to-date check failed for `Makefile.am' |
| 22:51.54 | captain_proton | cvs server: Up-to-date check failed for `Makefile.in' |
| 22:51.55 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 22:52.14 | larsl | I edited the all-local target. |
| 22:52.15 | Patlabor221 | well all I know is I can't build with this automake stuff. |
| 22:52.31 | captain_proton | ohh |
| 22:52.44 | [STC]_creeperz | Yippee. I'm at the end of the list. |
| 22:52.51 | [STC]_creeperz | Fun fun fun. |
| 22:53.14 | *** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient80-218-113-11.hispeed.ch) |
| 22:54.12 | *** join/#bzflag [TRS]raul (~fi@pD9590F0F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:55.32 | [TRS]raul | bzflag cvs checkout does not work for me, any help? |
| 22:55.47 | captain_proton | [TRS]raul: what command are you using? |
| 22:55.58 | [TRS]raul | let me look |
| 22:56.11 | captain_proton | larsl: can you try building and make sure i added all the necessary files |
| 22:56.24 | [STC]_creeperz | raul? |
| 22:56.39 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, raul? |
| 22:56.39 | | [STC]_creeperz: no idea |
| 22:56.47 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, TRS? |
| 22:56.48 | | i haven't a clue, [STC]_creeperz |
| 22:56.55 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, [TRS]? |
| 22:56.55 | | [STC]_creeperz: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ? |
| 22:57.00 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
| 22:57.03 | [STC]_creeperz | Ok |
| 22:57.07 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, STC? |
| 22:57.07 | | [STC]_creeperz: are you using Windows? |
| 22:57.11 | larsl | sed: can't read ./coldet/Makefile.in: No such file or directory |
| 22:57.18 | [STC]_creeperz | ibot, [STC] |
| 22:57.19 | | [STC]_creeperz: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 22:57.27 | [TRS]raul | cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag login |
| 22:57.43 | larsl | If I run automake first it works, though. |
| 22:57.46 | [STC]_creeperz | ~lock [STC]_creeperz |
| 22:57.54 | Patlabor221 | rual what is the second part? |
| 22:57.56 | [STC]_creeperz | ~lock [STC] creeperz |
| 22:58.14 | [STC]_creeperz | Hmm |
| 22:58.20 | [STC]_creeperz | Who can lock desc.? |
| 22:58.30 | Patlabor221 | people who don't abuse ibot |
| 22:58.36 | [TRS]raul | cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co |
| 22:58.51 | Patlabor221 | you need a -r v1_7 there too |
| 22:58.51 | larsl | [TRS]raul: co -r v1_7 bzflag |
| 22:58.56 | [STC]_creeperz | I do not that often |
| 22:58.58 | larsl | And you must name the module. |
| 22:59.00 | [STC]_creeperz | You can? |
| 22:59.07 | Patlabor221 | or you will get 1.8 |
| 22:59.30 | [TRS]raul | what is with 1.8? |
| 22:59.34 | captain_proton | larsl: its there |
| 22:59.45 | larsl | [TRS]raul: It's an old development version that isn't alive anymore. |
| 23:01.31 | larsl | captain_proton: It works. |
| 23:01.37 | captain_proton | larsl: nifty |
| 23:02.59 | Pryy | Cngynobe221:v org lbh unir rira zber arire fnj nal jbzna byqre 100 unysanxrq! yby |
| 23:03.30 | doughecka | I was sure I saw someone typing randomly for a second |
| 23:03.38 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*@*.dip.t-dialin.net] by captain_proton |
| 23:03.38 | *** kick/#bzflag [Pryy!~jupiter@aden2-23-dhcp.resnet.Colorado.EDU] by captain_proton (captain_proton) |
| 23:04.13 | captain_proton | sigh |
| 23:04.21 | [STC]_creeperz | He was Cell |
| 23:05.01 | [STC]_creeperz | Especially when they're abused |
| 23:05.50 | doughecka | ban all things with cacheflows in it |
| 23:06.16 | [STC]_creeperz | ? |
| 23:06.44 | doughecka | http://english.gamepark.com/ |
| 23:06.59 | doughecka | It's capable of emulating the GBA, Super Nintendo, Commodore 64, etc. plus there's a SCUMMVM engine for Monkey Island games and a Java VM. |
| 23:07.17 | Patlabor221 | bbl |
| 23:32.38 | *** join/#bzflag hardwire (~hardwire@12-252-5-124.client.attbi.com) |
| 23:35.04 | captain_proton | event system? |
| 23:35.26 | Patlabor221 | like high level events that triger effects and sounds |
| 23:35.38 | captain_proton | you should hook up coldet to the point where it spews text to stdout ;) |
| 23:35.39 | Patlabor221 | like spawn, jump, land |
| 23:35.41 | Patlabor221 | ect.. |
| 23:35.52 | Patlabor221 | stdout, no |
| 23:35.59 | Patlabor221 | maybe on linux |
| 23:36.05 | Patlabor221 | shuddap |
| 23:36.07 | Patlabor221 | it's my own word |
| 23:36.11 | captain_proton | yup |
| 23:36.15 | Patlabor221 | means "pleasant and calm" |
| 23:36.21 | captain_proton | :) |
| 23:37.19 | Patlabor221 | I should make a debug log util |
| 23:37.28 | Patlabor221 | that does stdout on lin, and trace on win |
| 23:38.35 | captain_proton | silly TRACE |
| 23:40.34 | doughecka | hey hardwire |
| 23:40.37 | Patlabor221 | it works |
| 23:41.25 | doughecka | captain_proton: with one or two joysticks? |
| 23:41.47 | Patlabor221 | http://www.tortoisecvs.org/ |
| 23:41.56 | doughecka | cool |
| 23:42.10 | captain_proton | doughecka: once |
| 23:42.13 | captain_proton | one* |
| 23:42.20 | doughecka | oh |
| 23:42.36 | captain_proton | push forward full throttle, get up to speed, turn to a side, then halfway through pull throttle back all the way |
| 23:42.37 | Patlabor221 | is there anyway to ban a subnet from my cvs server? |
| 23:42.50 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: could do it with ipchains/tables |
| 23:42.55 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: cell bothering it? |
| 23:42.56 | doughecka | I have one game that uses the joystick, and its a demo |
| 23:43.11 | Patlabor221 | not yet, but I don't want him to |
| 23:43.17 | Patlabor221 | don't even want him to have access |
| 23:43.32 | doughecka | Patlabor221: can I add patches with that program? |
| 23:43.33 | larsl | Patlabor221: You could simply put the address in /etc/hosts.deny. |
| 23:43.54 | Patlabor221 | can I put a dns mask in there? |
| 23:44.26 | larsl | Yes. |
| 23:44.29 | doughecka | is there a hosts.allow? |
| 23:44.33 | larsl | Like .bad.domain |
| 23:44.38 | larsl | doughecka: Yes. |
| 23:44.50 | larsl | If you use hosts.allow, all other hosts will be rejected. |
| 23:44.58 | doughecka | ick |
| 23:45.04 | doughecka | you dont want that.. |
| 23:45.46 | doughecka | bah |
| 23:46.27 | bzgirl | isnt iptables better suited for what pat wants? |
| 23:47.57 | larsl | Maybe. |
| 23:48.04 | larsl | I haven't used any of them that much. |
| 23:48.12 | Patlabor221 | I don't even know what they are. |
| 23:48.30 | captain_proton | ohh right pgserver goes through inetd |
| 23:48.40 | *** join/#bzflag doughecka (SteveJobs@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net) |
| 23:48.40 | doughecka | greetings |
| 23:48.42 | larsl | I thought hosts.deny stopped connections before they even reached iptables. |
| 23:48.45 | larsl | But that might be wrong. |
| 23:48.57 | captain_proton | larsl: no, iptables is kernel level, tcpwrappers is userland |
| 23:49.20 | doughecka | lol |
| 23:49.35 | Patlabor221 | so what do I do? |
| 23:49.36 | larsl | Oh. |
| 23:49.43 | *** join/#bzflag paul ([2d7vk+jSZ@hibernia.jakma.org) |
| 23:50.10 | larsl | Are you running a firewall? |
| 23:50.23 | Patlabor221 | maybe |
| 23:50.32 | doughecka | Patlabor221: ok, so how do I get screamers from cvs? |
| 23:50.32 | larsl | If it's shorewall, I could tell you exactly what to do. =) |
| 23:50.57 | Patlabor221 | fiber and jorm did it for me |
| 23:51.06 | doughecka | hehe |
| 23:59.12 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 23:59.13 | larsl | too |
| 23:59.19 | captain_proton | what netblock does t-dialin use? |
