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| 00:24.41 | fiberchunks | ~botmail read |
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| 00:51.30 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 01:07.31 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> you here? |
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| 01:09.16 | Patlabor221 | barely |
| 01:10.18 | fiberchunks | well, there is a way to get the thing in the QR box -- right click on the smiley, and do the copy link address, then edit |
| 01:10.32 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:10.39 | Patlabor221 | but it's kinda a pain |
| 01:10.49 | Patlabor221 | if we are gonna do it, we should do it right |
| 01:10.51 | fiberchunks | there's another way too, I'd have to find it, that involves having the mouseover action pop up the actual :foo: text for the emoticon |
| 01:10.56 | Patlabor221 | and that' isn't doced or intuitive |
| 01:11.15 | fiberchunks | either way -- I really don't give a damn about it :\ |
| 01:11.27 | Patlabor221 | for QR I think a list is engough |
| 01:11.30 | Patlabor221 | or remove it |
| 01:11.51 | Patlabor221 | or eveentualy we will have the entire reply page merged into the list page |
| 01:11.56 | fiberchunks | not sure how to integrate it with the QR any way |
| 01:12.05 | Patlabor221 | yeah me nether |
| 01:12.09 | Patlabor221 | that's why I say pull it |
| 01:12.20 | fiberchunks | alright - gone |
| 01:12.24 | Patlabor221 | if they need the list they can hit the full repply button |
| 01:14.24 | fiberchunks | done |
| 01:15.32 | captain_proton | bah @ anoncvs |
| 01:15.59 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> note the spiffy new correctly bottom aligned signatures, if you will |
| 01:17.08 | Patlabor221 | stand by: focusing chi. |
| 01:17.19 | fiberchunks | donning kfj |
| 01:17.24 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 01:17.39 | Patlabor221 | ahh looks good |
| 01:17.43 | fiberchunks | oh, sux0rs -- drink tequila |
| 01:17.46 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 01:18.03 | fiberchunks | kills everything known to man (including himself, luckily) |
| 01:18.14 | Patlabor221 | I"m thinking soup before the tequilla |
| 01:18.42 | fiberchunks | soup is just a false sense of security ;) |
| 01:18.50 | Patlabor221 | tho I probably shouldn't have stayed up till 3:30 watching DVDs last night |
| 01:20.17 | fiberchunks | tsk tsk, with work today too ? shame on you |
| 01:21.20 | Patlabor221 | I did not go to work |
| 01:21.34 | fiberchunks | ah, well then that's a good thing |
| 01:21.41 | Patlabor221 | you know how I want the portal to look :) |
| 01:21.49 | fiberchunks | how |
| 01:22.26 | Patlabor221 | ohh let me find the mockup |
| 01:22.27 | fiberchunks | I was thinking of making a portal to dissuade all but the hardcore bz'ers -- like a really badly done pr0no site -- with oodles and oodles of popups |
| 01:22.32 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 01:23.07 | fiberchunks | 'zap the monkey' for $20 and a free trip to the legenday bz HQ -- CRS's house ;) |
| 01:23.22 | captain_proton | hah |
| 01:23.26 | fiberchunks | 'kick the leprechaun in the bojangles' for a trip to arruba |
| 01:23.36 | fiberchunks | keep em on their toes |
| 01:23.40 | bryjen | Popups?!? Out, out vile demons, leave fiberchunks now! |
| 01:23.45 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 01:24.16 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/IMAGES/sometin.png |
| 01:24.41 | fiberchunks | well, aren't you spiffy -- when'd you do that? |
| 01:24.56 | Patlabor221 | a wile ago when you first talked about portals, remember? |
| 01:25.07 | Patlabor221 | I've shown you this |
| 01:25.20 | fiberchunks | you have?!?! your mem is far better than mine |
| 01:25.36 | Patlabor221 | I like a lot of the stuff on the portal pages, I just do not want to take the forum off the main page |
| 01:25.44 | Patlabor221 | since that is the ONLY thing we have |
| 01:26.02 | Patlabor221 | ohh your still running x86? no wonder. |
| 01:26.08 | fiberchunks | ah, you'd rather not have a news thang up there, with a prominent linkage to the forums? |
| 01:26.17 | fiberchunks | or any other thang -- doesn't really matter |
| 01:26.34 | fiberchunks | hrm -- that's interesting |
| 01:27.06 | fiberchunks | superior architectures elude me |
| 01:27.52 | fiberchunks | well, lemme look at the ezPortal, and see what voodoo that might require |
| 01:27.55 | Patlabor221 | ohh I don't mind the news |
| 01:28.05 | Patlabor221 | just most portals have you hit a link to get to the forum |
| 01:28.11 | Patlabor221 | cus the mainpage is all news and stuff |
| 01:28.27 | Patlabor221 | I just want the forum on the same page as the news |
| 01:28.35 | Patlabor221 | cus I don't think we will have THAT much news |
| 01:28.40 | fiberchunks | I think the portal functions thus: the mainpage is generated _based_ on a particular category within the forums |
| 01:28.44 | Patlabor221 | we are not stats, or shellshock |
| 01:28.49 | fiberchunks | concur |
| 01:28.57 | Patlabor221 | yeah I think we can do that layout |
| 01:29.20 | Patlabor221 | I dig the top level poll, the latest posts and all that |
| 01:29.24 | fiberchunks | well, I'm not sure, that you can put the entire forum on there -- but I'll check it out |
| 01:29.44 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure you can, it just may take some more php hackin |
| 01:30.19 | Patlabor221 | what day is today? |
| 01:30.24 | fiberchunks | cept for admin and the quicklinks (I've also gotta make the quicklinks softcoded, instead of the cruft it is now) |
| 01:30.26 | fiberchunks | 19 |
| 01:30.31 | fiberchunks | thurs |
| 01:30.35 | fiberchunks | 2003 |
| 01:30.44 | fiberchunks | 2131 est |
| 01:31.23 | fiberchunks | good for you :) |
| 01:31.41 | fiberchunks | I fixed a radiator today -- surprisingly didn't take too long |
| 01:32.02 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 01:32.08 | fiberchunks | nothing like an anti-freeze / tranny oil bath |
| 01:32.39 | Patlabor221 | mmmmm cancerific |
| 01:32.58 | fiberchunks | yes, I prob have cancer of the arm and scalp now ;) |
| 01:35.11 | fiberchunks | oooo, I could put some sort of uber-trendy blog on there, so I can keep track of all these mods and shite |
| 01:36.37 | fiberchunks | large woman spat on by camel! read the news -- it's l337 |
| 01:36.37 | Patlabor221 | that would be nice |
| 01:36.43 | fiberchunks | honestly? |
| 01:36.51 | fiberchunks | I was 1/2 kidding when I said that |
| 01:36.55 | Patlabor221 | a cheangelog, sure, not the cammel |
| 01:37.05 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 01:37.15 | fiberchunks | I like the camel -- we could mirror the onion |
| 01:37.24 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 01:37.37 | fiberchunks | news in there is more accurate than nbc anyway :\ |
| 01:37.40 | Patlabor221 | the dolphins one was the best |
| 01:38.26 | Patlabor221 | lol"Disney Family Vacation Ruined By Walt Disney Company" |
| 01:38.33 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 01:38.39 | fiberchunks | there's a surprise |
| 01:38.53 | Patlabor221 | "Christ Returns For Some Of His Old Things |
| 01:38.59 | fiberchunks | 'come here!' spend $5000, get hassled by your children for life! |
| 01:39.02 | fiberchunks | LOL |
| 01:39.21 | fiberchunks | oooo, post that in the knowing ghod thread |
| 01:39.30 | fiberchunks | *evil snicker* |
| 01:40.05 | Patlabor221 | http://www.theonion.com/onion3630/dolphins_evolve_thumbs.html |
| 01:40.07 | Patlabor221 | there it is |
| 01:41.22 | fiberchunks | spontaneous opposable-digit manifestation << my new callsign |
| 01:41.57 | Patlabor221 | heh |
| 01:43.13 | fiberchunks | manhattan or new england |
| 01:43.27 | captain_proton | LA ;) |
| 01:43.30 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 01:43.33 | Patlabor221 | NE |
| 01:43.38 | Patlabor221 | I don't like the red stuff |
| 01:43.40 | fiberchunks | oh, so with tofu and sprouts in it then ;) |
| 01:44.15 | captain_proton | tofu and sprouts are good :) |
| 01:44.15 | fiberchunks | and I live on the atlantic (almost) :\ |
| 01:44.34 | Patlabor221 | raw salmon :) |
| 01:44.34 | fiberchunks | and a high-colonic afterward with a dinner mint |
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| 01:47.36 | bryjen | re-vial-ised: v. the act of being put back into vials. |
| 01:47.41 | JBDiGriz | Wow, to all the people who added to the work in progress page, Thank you! |
| 01:47.49 | learnerAtWork | MMMmmmmm... you guys are making me hungry |
| 01:47.59 | breadhat | bryjen: :O |
| 01:48.02 | learnerAtWork | for some Salman and Chowda! |
| 01:48.16 | captain_proton | its like we have some sort of "plan" |
| 01:48.23 | fiberchunks | nooooooooooooo |
| 01:48.24 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Don't rushdie Salman |
| 01:48.48 | learnerAtWork | hehe, oops.. ok -- Sushi! :) |
| 01:48.59 | JBDiGriz | Does that make Pat a little baster? :) |
| 01:49.42 | Patlabor221 | perfer the term "artifical person" |
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| 01:51.02 | JBDiGriz | Who put together the Karma System and Network Protocol pages? I'm going to spend some time on that network protocol and enet over the next couple of days. |
| 01:51.27 | captain_proton | karma system page was put together mostly by me about 6 months back or so |
| 01:51.27 | michaelh | why does my cdrom drive act like it is eating cdroms? |
| 01:51.43 | captain_proton | not sure about network protocol |
| 01:51.58 | captain_proton | looks like the page was just copy+pasted from the doc on the web site |
| 01:52.33 | michaelh | I hear my cdrom drive eating cd's -- doesn't sound good -- can this be a bad cdrom drive? |
| 01:52.55 | JBDiGriz | It really looks good! |
| 01:52.57 | michaelh | a fair # of cds it seems to do it to... |
| 01:53.09 | michaelh | There's like 2 pages of documentation total for bzflag |
| 01:53.31 | JBDiGriz | There's more than 2 pages to the planning spec already, check it out! |
| 01:53.55 | bryjen | 2 pages in a fairly large font |
| 01:54.09 | bryjen | ;) |
| 01:54.37 | fiberchunks | JBDiGriz> linkage? |
| 01:54.45 | Patlabor221 | use smaller fonts, save disk space!!! |
| 01:54.53 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:55.06 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: From the topic http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/WorkInProgress |
| 01:55.22 | fiberchunks | muwahahahaha ,I never read them thangs ;) thanks |
| 01:55.57 | JBDiGriz | We're being driven to make these things more useful so you read them! :) |
| 01:58.19 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 01:59.17 | bryjen | heh. IP6 support? |
| 01:59.34 | captain_proton | bryjen: so you can play bzflag on your toaster |
| 01:59.46 | bryjen | and we don't need no stinking joysticks ;) |
| 01:59.49 | scanline | and on each light bulb in your Internet X-Mas Tree |
| 02:00.23 | captain_proton | and on internet fruit! |
| 02:00.25 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: Is the redo of the database in the ideas section, the same as the BZDB scheduled for the next release? |
| 02:00.31 | scanline | yes, internet fruit! |
| 02:00.34 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: let me take a look... |
| 02:00.40 | scanline | chemo-solar powered internet fruit! |
| 02:01.26 | bryjen | would those be on a vines network? |
| 02:01.51 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: where on the page? |
| 02:02.03 | JBDiGriz | scanline: Now turn your head to the left and cough again |
| 02:02.13 | scanline | JBDiGriz: already did that once today thanks |
| 02:02.41 | michaelh | should cd's be smooth on the outside? |
| 02:02.42 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: Section 1.2 lists BZDB in 1.8, and 1.3 lists redo the entire world database |
| 02:02.58 | captain_proton | world db != bzdb |
| 02:03.05 | michaelh | can see the little bumps in the middle |
| 02:03.31 | JBDiGriz | is the BZDB the distributed player database? |
| 02:03.37 | captain_proton | no |
| 02:03.46 | captain_proton | BZDB is like the ResourceDatabase but a lot more useful |
| 02:03.48 | JBDiGriz | I think I need a little enlightenment |
| 02:04.21 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: check out 1.8 and do a grep -r BZDB * ;-) |
| 02:04.41 | JBDiGriz | That sounds like a good idea! |
| 02:06.52 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: g'nite, great acting in that film. |
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| 02:15.19 | bryjen | dare i enquire, "approval from the FIST" ?? |
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| 02:15.40 | Patlabor221 | obey the fist! |
| 02:16.11 | bryjen | Wha? |
| 02:17.15 | JBDiGriz | Thanks for the enlightenment, it didn't hurt as much as the zen master. |
| 02:17.16 | Patlabor221 | fist, obey, you |
| 02:17.31 | learnerAtWork | hehehe |
| 02:26.36 | bryjen | sense, you make, not |
| 02:27.35 | Patlabor221 | nothing realy makes sense if you think about it |
| 02:27.58 | Patlabor221 | perhaps the big folder of justice can help |
| 02:28.24 | Patlabor221 | http://bfoj.bakadigital.com/wierd/invaderZim-TechnoMix.mp3 |
| 02:29.24 | bryjen | hrm |
| 02:38.22 | bryjen | Well, that took way to much effort. |
| 02:40.29 | bryjen | If I'd just runs Windows like his Billness intended..... |
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| 02:58.57 | gurud00d | could anyone here provide me with a location where i can download world maps and references for running my own bzflag server? |
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| 03:09.49 | captain_proton | learnerAtWork: are you up for testing koth a bit? i need someone else to connect |
| 03:11.18 | creeperz | Hello |
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| 03:12.58 | learnerAtWork | ah, capn, just saw youre message |
| 03:13.23 | learnerAtWork | yea, I saw it.. |
| 03:13.28 | learnerAtWork | you have a patch? |
| 03:13.43 | captain_proton | not yet |
| 03:13.51 | captain_proton | just need someone to shot at & be shot by |
| 03:14.01 | learnerAtWork | I'm on the wrong machine right now, but I can scp my build from last night on over |
| 03:14.07 | creeperz | He says that memory is "not the problem" |
| 03:14.40 | captain_proton | creeperz what in the world are you talking about |
| 03:15.08 | learnerAtWork | I'm all trauma'd by the latter (getting shot by).. fizzy just fizzed me good a little while ago.. |
| 03:15.44 | scanline | creeperz: you should get some DIMMs with transparent bzip2 |
| 03:16.06 | learnerAtWork | gurud00d you still here? |
| 03:16.08 | creeperz | I told my dad I need more memory |
| 03:16.19 | creeperz | Because my computer is slow with RH9.0 |
| 03:16.35 | learnerAtWork | mine is too, will he buy *me* some memory? |
| 03:16.59 | gurud00d | sup? |
| 03:17.12 | captain_proton | scanline: hahaha |
| 03:17.15 | scanline | ooh, this coffee looks like it might be tolerable |
| 03:17.50 | learnerAtWork | gurud00d: you want shellshock |
| 03:18.05 | scanline | captain_proton: ever used swap over NFS? (Using a loopback device of course) |
| 03:18.08 | scanline | it's a boatload of fun |
| 03:18.10 | gurud00d | what's that? |
| 03:18.12 | learnerAtWork | gurud00d: http://www.shellshock.dutchrai.com/ has some great material |
| 03:18.14 | scanline | especially on a dreamcast |
| 03:18.15 | captain_proton | creeperz: run 'free -tm' |
| 03:18.23 | captain_proton | scanline: yep |
| 03:18.27 | learnerAtWork | gurud00d: for starting your own server, references, maps, etc |
| 03:18.39 | scanline | =) |
| 03:18.44 | gurud00d | ty |
| 03:20.47 | scanline | captain_proton: XMLTV apparently thinks channel 77 here is both "PLAYBOY" and "GOLF" |
| 03:20.57 | captain_proton | scanline: you can change that |
| 03:21.05 | gurud00d | will someone here try to connect to my bzflag server? |
| 03:21.08 | captain_proton | scanline: edit the xmltv file, and comment out (#) before the one you don't want |
| 03:21.16 | gurud00d | it's nutextonline.com port 5155 |
| 03:25.58 | captain_proton | damnit scanline now i'm listening to trespassers william and being unproductive |
| 03:26.11 | scanline | it's weird |
| 03:28.13 | captain_proton | i think its just too relaxing |
| 03:28.14 | captain_proton | its like trying to code to enya |
| 03:28.16 | captain_proton | just doesn't work |
| 03:28.16 | scanline | must be |
| 03:28.18 | scanline | :) |
| 03:28.40 | scanline | ah... |
| 03:28.49 | scanline | and I've gone way too long without coffee |
| 03:28.53 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 03:28.57 | scanline | this is mediocre coffee, but it tastes amazing! |
| 03:29.10 | captain_proton | all over my shirt :P |
| 03:29.13 | scanline | haha |
| 03:29.16 | scanline | free coffee, eh? |
| 03:29.23 | captain_proton | its the beauty of having my job |
| 03:29.24 | scanline | from the thing with the fancy tablecloths? |
| 03:29.32 | captain_proton | yep |
| 03:29.35 | scanline | neat |
| 03:29.42 | captain_proton | got breakfast offa them too |
| 03:29.47 | scanline | neato |
| 03:30.19 | scanline | bluetooth keyboard? wha? |
| 03:31.36 | captain_proton | hm? |
| 03:33.39 | creeperz | ...I wish I had Pat's jobs |
| 03:33.53 | creeperz | And cap's :-) |
| 03:34.04 | captain_proton | creeperz: do you have any idea what it is that i do? :) |
| 03:34.11 | captain_proton | scanline: you can help me test this! |
| 03:34.29 | creeperz | I heard something about science and computers |
| 03:34.40 | creeperz | And some big building in Maine or something |
| 03:34.54 | captain_proton | uhhuh |
| 03:34.58 | captain_proton | i commute to Maine daily |
| 03:34.59 | creeperz | But it has free food. I'm in ;-) |
| 03:35.08 | creeperz | DAMNIT! |
| 03:35.10 | captain_proton | to work for the man |
| 03:35.37 | creeperz | My mom decides to mop at 10:30 |
| 03:35.43 | captain_proton | except in this case the man is a woman |
| 03:36.29 | scanline | captain_proton: alrighty... lemme pull that cvs from wasabi to yoshi and recompile it if necessary |
| 03:37.23 | creeperz | *CRUNCH* ...camcorder |
| 03:37.34 | captain_proton | scanline: you'll need to patch it too |
| 03:37.37 | scanline | camcorders are for losers |
| 03:37.44 | captain_proton | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=496659&group_id=3248&atid=303248 |
| 03:37.46 | scanline | captain_proton: wherefore ist patchski? |
| 03:37.47 | scanline | aha |
| 03:38.05 | creeperz | I haven't a camcorder |
| 03:38.19 | creeperz | I haven't a picture takingg device of any sort |
| 03:38.31 | scanline | ahh... machinae supremacy is just about the opposite of trespassers william in soothingness factor |
| 03:38.43 | captain_proton | hah |
| 03:38.43 | creeperz | Other than the neat little screen capture button on my keyboard |
| 03:39.07 | scanline | captain_proton: hmm.. need all three copies of king.diff? :) |
| 03:39.08 | captain_proton | scanline: why doesn't picogui have a screen capture button on its keyboard? |
| 03:39.23 | scanline | captain_proton: because whoever wrote pgboard is a slacker |
| 03:39.43 | captain_proton | scanline: just the one with todays date |
| 03:39.47 | creeperz | DAmnit, I'm lighting a candle |
| 03:39.49 | captain_proton | scanline: you'll need the new .rgbs though |
| 03:39.57 | scanline | ookeydokey |
| 03:40.21 | learnerAtWork | ~dict crux |
| 03:40.47 | scanline | oh no, my hunks have offsets! |
| 03:40.54 | scanline | at least they're successful hunks |
| 03:41.01 | gurud00d | ok the server will be back in a couple minutes :) |
| 03:41.42 | gurud00d | bzfs -r -t -j -sa -st 15 -b -h -ms 6 -mp 20 -mts 25 -synctime -ttl 40 +r +f good +f V +f A +f OO +f F +f MG +f GM +f GM +f L +f L +f SB +f IB +f ST +f ST +f T +f T +f N +f N +f SH +f SH +f SR +f SR +f SR +f SR +f SW +f SW +f PZ +f PZ +f G +f G +f ID +f ID +f CL +f CL +f CL -passwd [mypasshere] -public "Welcome to the bzflag server courtesy of Nutext Technologies!" -srvmsg "Welcome to the bzflag server courtesy of Nutext Technologies!" -publica |
| 03:41.42 | gurud00d | ddr nutextonline.com |
| 03:41.49 | gurud00d | that's the line i am using to start the server |
| 03:42.00 | scanline | elegant in its simplicity |
| 03:42.10 | captain_proton | scanline: heh |
| 03:42.31 | scanline | why are some of the flags in there twice? |
| 03:42.41 | scanline | or thrice |
| 03:42.46 | captain_proton | scanline: each +f inserts a flag - if its duplicated, it'll insert that many |
| 03:42.46 | creeperz | -sa? |
| 03:42.47 | gurud00d | heh, no clue |
| 03:42.50 | scanline | ah |
| 03:42.52 | creeperz | -st? |
| 03:43.10 | gurud00d | i grabbed that off a site |
| 03:43.14 | DTRemenak | -sa and -st are bad flag antidote and timeout |
| 03:43.20 | creeperz | Ah |
| 03:43.23 | gurud00d | ok, server is back up |
| 03:43.26 | gurud00d | see ya there |
| 03:43.30 | gurud00d | nutextonline.com 5155 |
| 03:43.30 | creeperz | I never used them :-) |
| 03:43.42 | scanline | there should be a -lazy that picks a bunch of good options and uses them |
| 03:43.46 | learnerAtWork | you have an updated client gurud00d? |
| 03:43.47 | DTRemenak | lol |
| 03:43.48 | creeperz | ...Too bad MAC's site is gone :-/ |
| 03:43.56 | gurud00d | yep |
| 03:43.56 | captain_proton | MACs site just moved |
| 03:43.59 | gurud00d | g2 |
| 03:44.00 | creeperz | That was useful for making bzfs's |
| 03:44.00 | learnerAtWork | good |
| 03:44.08 | creeperz | He got it back up? |
| 03:44.12 | creeperz | address? |
| 03:44.14 | captain_proton | http://www.qis.net/~dbrosius/BZFlag/BZFlag.html |
| 03:44.20 | captain_proton | scanline: its historical ;) |
| 03:44.25 | creeperz | Ah |
| 03:44.30 | scanline | howabouts ./bzfs --flags=3xGM,SB,etc... |
| 03:44.34 | scanline | ah |
| 03:44.34 | captain_proton | scanline: almost all IRIX programs use multiletter - and +- |
| 03:44.37 | gurud00d | had to kill the server...pelase join now |
| 03:44.41 | scanline | ah, i see |
| 03:44.47 | DTRemenak | you can use +f GM{3} |
| 03:45.14 | scanline | but it's still awfully unGNUish :) |
| 03:45.15 | creeperz | I would help :-) ...if I had BZFlag ;-) |
| 03:45.31 | scanline | captain_proton: ok, it finished compiling |
| 03:45.32 | captain_proton | scanline: yeah, it'll probably get changed when someone rewrites the command line parsing |
| 03:45.37 | captain_proton | scanline: bzflag.net:5155 |
| 03:46.44 | scanline | t |
| 03:46.51 | scanline | mnytw |
| 03:46.51 | scanline | er |
| 03:47.45 | gurud00d | ok server is back |
| 03:49.00 | gurud00d | what ports are used by bzfs? |
| 03:49.24 | scanline | bah, bzflag played mind games with my focus |
| 03:49.28 | breadhat | 5155 5156 |
| 03:49.31 | breadhat | I think |
| 03:49.38 | DTRemenak | 5155, 5156 TCP, 17000+ UDP |
| 03:49.44 | creeperz | I wouldn't worry about the port parrt |
| 03:49.52 | creeperz | :-0 |
| 03:49.56 | DTRemenak | if we can connect it's probably ok |
| 03:49.56 | creeperz | ;-) |
| 03:50.02 | creeperz | I never did |
| 03:50.03 | gurud00d | you connected now? |
| 03:50.07 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 03:50.14 | gurud00d | brb |
| 03:50.57 | captain_proton | 5155 UDP :P |
| 03:51.01 | scanline | wow.. if I use window manager hotkeys to defocus bzflag while it's in fullscreen mode, it's even more cranky |
| 03:51.12 | gurud00d | ok, i think i know the problem |
| 03:51.18 | scanline | and for some reason it adjusted the gamma on both my monitors when it went fullscreen |
| 03:51.43 | scanline | so now my xchat looks like something that would come out of redhat |
| 03:51.57 | captain_proton | heh |
| 03:52.17 | scanline | interesting how in fullscreen it always grabs the mouse even when it doesn't have keyboard focus :) |
| 03:52.33 | captain_proton | there's a patch to make it grab keyboard focus |
| 03:52.39 | captain_proton | and not let go! |
| 03:52.50 | scanline | oh no! |
| 03:52.53 | creeperz | scanline: Ouch. That hurts :-) |
| 03:52.56 | gurud00d | restarting the server |
| 03:53.10 | gurud00d | done |
| 03:53.10 | scanline | creeperz: sorry, did I accidentally send a mind bullet your way? |
| 03:53.13 | gurud00d | let's see if it works now |
| 03:53.21 | creeperz | ... |
| 03:53.37 | scanline | or was it more of a mind silly putty? |
| 03:53.37 | creeperz | I dunno |
| 03:54.01 | creeperz | Same idea :-) |
| 03:54.21 | captain_proton | scanline: connect again? |
| 03:54.35 | scanline | okeydokey |
| 03:54.58 | captain_proton | er, nevermind |
| 03:55.03 | captain_proton | my fix caused other problems |
| 03:55.08 | scanline | ah |
| 03:55.09 | creeperz | I say a "profesional" business commercial today with an 8m.com address :-) |
| 03:55.23 | scanline | 8m.com? |
| 03:55.24 | gurud00d | server restarting |
| 03:55.32 | gurud00d | done |
| 03:55.36 | creeperz | It's a free host |
| 03:55.38 | gurud00d | no more ricochet without the flag |
| 03:55.44 | gurud00d | let's play some bzflag :) |
| 03:55.45 | creeperz | Going trhrough other sites |
| 03:56.13 | captain_proton | but ricochet is happy |
| 03:57.06 | gurud00d | nutextonline.com 5155 |
| 03:57.09 | gurud00d | it's all ready |
| 03:57.14 | gurud00d | no more restarts, i promise :) |
| 03:57.29 | scanline | ye best be reenabling ricochet... more fun that way! |
| 03:57.36 | scanline | and SuperTank+! |
| 03:58.01 | creeperz | +Godzilla! |
| 03:58.08 | captain_proton | damn |
| 03:58.13 | captain_proton | MACs puppies are so cute |
| 03:58.19 | scanline | no, that's the boss for level 5 of BZFlag |
| 03:58.27 | creeperz | Heh |
| 03:58.35 | DTRemenak | lol...since when did we have a single player bzflag? |
| 03:58.54 | scanline | DTRemenak: CIA wrote it... there's a patch on his web site |
| 03:59.08 | scanline | first level boss is George Dubbya |
| 03:59.11 | scanline | then you move on to fight Sauron |
| 03:59.22 | DTRemenak | sounds interesting |
| 03:59.28 | DTRemenak | what's his URL? ;) |
| 03:59.34 | creeperz | +Huge basebale bat that can never be destgroied and smashes everyone and seems to float in mid air and kill! :-) |
| 03:59.34 | scanline | http://navi.picogui.org |
| 03:59.40 | gurud00d | dt you gonna play? |
| 03:59.45 | scanline | but the patch is kind of hard to find there, and I don't remember the URL :P |
| 03:59.56 | DTRemenak | be right there guru |
| 03:59.59 | gurud00d | ok |
| 04:00.03 | gurud00d | anyone else wanna play? |
| 04:00.15 | creeperz | I would if I could, but I can't so I won't |
| 04:00.18 | breadhat | "CIA wrote it" :) |
| 04:00.25 | captain_proton | breadhat: shaddup |
| 04:00.33 | scanline | breadhat: it's more intelligent than you think |
| 04:00.47 | breadhat | perl is powerfull |
| 04:00.49 | scanline | there's a lot 1000 or so lines of Python can be capable of |
| 04:01.01 | scanline | breadhat: bah, CIA isn't in perl :P |
| 04:01.18 | creeperz | Imagine having to binary code out by hand |
| 04:01.23 | creeperz | ...in Japanese |
| 04:01.29 | gurud00d | i wanna see how many players i can support without lag |
| 04:01.31 | creeperz | write* |
| 04:01.32 | scanline | creeperz: never written machine code by hand? |
| 04:01.34 | gurud00d | see ya in the game |
| 04:01.40 | breadhat | ah yes, python is like perls older brother or something right? :) |
| 04:01.43 | scanline | creeperz: you should try it at least once... |
| 04:01.51 | creeperz | In Japanese? |
| 04:02.03 | *** kick/#bzflag [breadhat!~blardebla@12-203-245-57.client.attbi.com] by captain_proton (not in your wettest of dreams...) |
| 04:02.05 | *** join/#bzflag breadhat (doug@tiphareth.net) |
| 04:02.13 | scanline | creeperz: feel free to interpret the machine code as a UTF-8 stream |
| 04:02.14 | creeperz | :-) |
| 04:02.38 | breadhat | or is it the other way around ;) |
| 04:02.40 | scanline | I'm sure you'll eventually get a Kanji or two |
| 04:02.54 | scanline | breadhat: I used to like perl... but python is just so huggable! |
| 04:03.05 | scanline | it has an OOP model that actually makes sense |
| 04:03.30 | scanline | as opposed to perl's kludges that rival most religions in complexity |
| 04:03.39 | captain_proton | wasabi needs to record red green faster |
| 04:03.40 | breadhat | heh |
| 04:04.08 | scanline | captain_proton: hmm, is it supposed to be recording now? mythbackend seems to be dead |
| 04:04.15 | captain_proton | scanline: no |
| 04:04.16 | scanline | it will respawn in a minute or so, but that's weird |
| 04:04.21 | captain_proton | scanline: have to wait until saturday :( |
| 04:04.26 | scanline | oh |
| 04:04.28 | scanline | bah |
| 04:04.36 | captain_proton | scanline: speaking of which, its cool that mac is on tv, but we don't need/want to record it |
| 04:04.47 | scanline | oh yeah.. you have that torrent thing |
| 04:04.57 | creeperz | Damn |
| 04:05.05 | creeperz | Nothing's on the tube! |
| 04:05.36 | creeperz | :-) |
| 04:05.36 | breadhat | red green... the tv show? |
| 04:05.57 | captain_proton | =) |
| 04:06.02 | scanline | aha, I have the capture card set up slightly wrong in setup |
| 04:06.18 | scanline | VHS? wha? |
| 04:06.19 | captain_proton | VHS SmeeHS |
| 04:06.24 | creeperz | :-) |
| 04:06.33 | captain_proton | scanline: its like MiniDV but bigger and analog |
| 04:06.37 | creeperz | It's better than NAA |
| 04:06.39 | creeperz | :-) |
| 04:06.42 | scanline | :) |
| 04:06.52 | creeperz | Haha |
| 04:07.09 | breadhat | so its nothing like MiniDV :) |
| 04:07.31 | scanline | oh no! |
| 04:07.45 | scanline | because I had that configuration wrong, it missed the first 7 minutes of Iron Chef! |
| 04:07.59 | breadhat | what WILL you do? |
| 04:08.19 | breadhat | :) |
| 04:08.57 | scanline | and of course it has to start recording in the middle of a commercial block |
| 04:09.10 | creeperz | DAMNIT!! |
| 04:09.26 | creeperz | NOW my dad wants me to spend "quality time" with him |
| 04:09.27 | scanline | the mythtv-patched mplayer crashes if I try to seek.. have to convert to AVI if I want to have such luxury |
| 04:09.28 | breadhat | what software? |
| 04:09.36 | creeperz | See yu all later |
| 04:09.48 | scanline | breadhat: the contents of wasabi's hard disk |
| 04:10.00 | scanline | but mostly MythTV |
| 04:10.04 | breadhat | heh |
| 04:10.11 | captain_proton | scanline: ok, can you connect now? |
| 04:10.28 | scanline | ok, just a sec |
| 04:15.54 | captain_proton | ooh segmentation fault |
| 04:16.09 | scanline | oop, sorry |
| 04:16.30 | scanline | the dubbing in Iron Chef is freaky |
| 04:17.39 | captain_proton | uhhuh |
| 04:18.20 | captain_proton | scanline: join? |
| 04:18.25 | scanline | kl |
| 04:18.26 | scanline | er, ok |
| 04:23.48 | scanline | enough of that for now :) |
| 04:25.54 | scanline | to see if you're a TRAITOR! |
| 04:31.28 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~tucker@bc183148.bendcable.com) |
| 05:02.16 | captain_proton | urg |
| 05:02.18 | captain_proton | sf cvs having issues |
| 05:17.26 | captain_proton | mmm..what a great song |
| 05:17.54 | learnerAtWork | which is that, cap |
| 05:18.08 | captain_proton | juno reactor's pistolero |
| 05:20.38 | learnerAtWork | Mmmmm.. good game music |
| 05:20.43 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 05:20.53 | captain_proton | KotH bug should be fixed |
| 05:21.02 | learnerAtWork | found it? |
| 05:22.13 | captain_proton | sorta worked around it |
| 05:22.17 | captain_proton | i'm not sure why it wasn't working |
| 05:22.44 | learnerAtWork | heh, omg |
| 05:23.59 | captain_proton | hm? |
| 05:25.09 | learnerAtWork | hehe, just funny -- workarounds are always funny to me for some reason (until I have to go back and fix them.. ) ;) |
| 05:25.33 | scanline | hmm, a pretty decent SG-1 episode on now |
| 05:25.43 | learnerAtWork | don't tell me that bastard! |
| 05:25.50 | learnerAtWork | I'm not near a tv! |
| 05:25.57 | scanline | learnerAtWork: I'm not either |
| 05:26.06 | learnerAtWork | aw, ok I feel better |
| 05:26.16 | scanline | but I happen to be on a LAN with a machine with a tuner card and a fast CPU :) |
| 05:26.23 | learnerAtWork | ah! |
| 05:26.38 | learnerAtWork | grrrrrr |
| 05:26.40 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 05:27.21 | scanline | I'm recording it... |
| 05:27.34 | scanline | so feel free to snag a 350MB file from me when it's done :) |
| 05:27.45 | learnerAtWork | Oh, gladly.. :) |
| 05:27.46 | *** join/#bzflag ak|ra (~mathias@p50883FBD.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 05:27.53 | learnerAtWork | how fast can you stream? |
| 05:27.56 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 05:28.01 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:28.02 | scanline | well, it's a cable modem |
| 05:28.07 | scanline | so not fast enough at this encoding bit rate |
| 05:28.08 | learnerAtWork | dout.. |
| 05:28.33 | captain_proton | dout...like cout, but better |
| 05:28.40 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 05:28.50 | captain_proton | moin ak|ra |
| 05:28.57 | scanline | moin moin! |
| 05:29.21 | captain_proton | the streets were crawling with vampires, because after your shelf-life expires, you're not a kid, you're a monster, monster, monster... |
| 05:29.50 | scanline | and... it's that alternate universe, where samantha has long hair and kawalski is non-dead! |
| 05:30.07 | scanline | any episode with two carters has to be good |
| 05:30.17 | captain_proton | its kind of like STTNG |
| 05:30.29 | captain_proton | where old means a streak of grey in the otherwise normal hair |
| 05:30.42 | scanline | or red dwarf... maybe if the other o'neil was a dog |
| 05:31.32 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 05:32.05 | scanline | ooh.. general hammond has a little TV remote thingy that turns off the lights whenever he presses play |
| 05:32.16 | captain_proton | its like wasabi |
| 05:32.19 | *** join/#bzflag MrApathyCream (dbrosius@balt-209-163-100-73.qis-dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) |
| 05:32.19 | captain_proton | with the wrong button mapping! |
| 05:32.28 | scanline | but his lights click when he turns them on |
| 05:32.42 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 05:33.29 | scanline | "So it's possible there's an alternate version of myself out there that understands what the hell you're talking about?" -- O'Neil |
| 05:33.34 | scanline | and Daniel says nothing :) |
| 05:33.42 | captain_proton | so MrApathyCream |
| 05:33.43 | captain_proton | sup |
| 05:34.08 | scanline | this encoding actually comes out kind of decent |
| 05:35.08 | MrApathyCream | not much |
| 05:35.14 | scanline | yep, the two carters have to argue |
| 05:36.21 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: why? my attacking the sf trackers? |
| 05:36.47 | MrApathyCream | no your productivity seems high |
| 05:37.02 | MrApathyCream | oh, heh, yes |
| 05:37.04 | MrApathyCream | same thing :) |
| 05:37.09 | captain_proton | =) |
| 05:37.31 | captain_proton | ak|ra: its a delicate balance |
| 05:37.39 | MrApathyCream | The server's host key is not cached in the registry. You |
| 05:37.40 | ak|ra | hehe |
| 05:37.42 | MrApathyCream | have no guarantee that the server is the computer you |
| 05:37.42 | MrApathyCream | think it is. |
| 05:38.40 | *** join/#bzflag lurgyman (kuester@dialup-85-182.Colorado.EDU) |
| 05:41.57 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: you oughta claim somethin' on the wipi wiki page |
| 05:43.21 | MrApathyCream | are things going fast? |
| 05:43.47 | captain_proton | sorta |
| 05:44.34 | MrApathyCream | under ideas? |
| 05:44.40 | captain_proton | WorkInProgress |
| 05:45.21 | scanline | should make it WorkInProgressIdeas so you can use wipi |
| 05:45.29 | captain_proton | heh |
| 05:45.33 | MrApathyCream | has someone busted yet? |
| 05:45.52 | captain_proton | first thing that needs bustination is the version |
| 05:45.55 | captain_proton | (number) |
| 05:48.47 | MrApathyCream | wow flag reorg code in... inch of dust on that one |
| 05:49.01 | captain_proton | yeah, i wiped it off |
| 05:49.13 | captain_proton | the CFX code is 2 years old now :) |
| 05:50.51 | captain_proton | hm |
| 05:50.57 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: you could do flag negotiation ;-) |
| 05:51.19 | MrApathyCream | that was started in1.8 |
| 05:51.32 | captain_proton | iirc it was done in 1.8 |
| 05:51.42 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 05:51.48 | captain_proton | no? |
| 05:51.49 | MrApathyCream | not negotiation |
| 05:51.49 | captain_proton | what was left? |
| 05:51.54 | MrApathyCream | just yes or no |
| 05:52.06 | captain_proton | isn't that all we need? |
| 05:52.15 | MrApathyCream | i think riker intended to have the server only generate flags that all active players could handle |
| 05:52.25 | captain_proton | err, thats silly |
| 05:52.33 | captain_proton | better to just have the client say "upgrade" |
| 05:52.41 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 05:52.44 | captain_proton | the idea is to be able to add flags without introducing undefined behavior |
| 05:53.05 | MrApathyCream | is his rikerness doing the single bullet, er single port thing? |
| 05:53.24 | captain_proton | i don't think he's really claimed anything? |
| 05:53.29 | captain_proton | s/?/./ |
| 05:53.37 | MrApathyCream | and player byte id? |
| 05:55.04 | MrApathyCream | also i got put back in png support |
| 05:55.06 | *** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-67-120-233-53.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 05:55.31 | captain_proton | would be nice to rip MediaFile direct from 1.8 |
| 05:55.42 | captain_proton | i haven't looked at that in forever, so i don't recall how complicated that would be |
| 05:56.49 | MrApathyCream | *shrug* |
| 05:59.43 | MrApathyCream | so is 1.7 on head now? |
| 05:59.46 | captain_proton | yep |
| 06:00.17 | MrApathyCream | so we use -PdA ? |
| 06:00.31 | captain_proton | usually just -Pd will work |
| 06:00.40 | scanline | heyhey... this SD card reader actually works with usb-storage |
| 06:01.28 | MrApathyCream | are we letting g2 settle for a while or just bustinating from the jump? |
| 06:01.43 | scanline | captain_proton: kaboom mines or crunch-crunch-haul mines? |
| 06:02.00 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 06:02.05 | captain_proton | crunch-crunch-haul mines |
| 06:02.12 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: burstinating! |
| 06:02.14 | captain_proton | err |
| 06:02.23 | captain_proton | after we get the version number stuff worked out, we'll burstinate |
| 06:04.27 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 06:05.26 | learnerAtWork | do you sleep cap? -- you must be west coast US.. |
| 06:05.53 | MrApathyCream | colo-=boy |
| 06:06.04 | captain_proton | aha |
| 06:06.05 | captain_proton | "outland" |
| 06:06.09 | captain_proton | learnerAtWork: mountain time |
| 06:06.13 | captain_proton | (midnight here) |
| 06:06.20 | learnerAtWork | ah, gotcha |
| 06:06.24 | learnerAtWork | colorado? |
| 06:06.32 | learnerAtWork | cool |
| 06:06.44 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~tucker@bc183148.bendcable.com) |
| 06:07.01 | learnerAtWork | nice skiing.. mmm need to visit sometime |
| 06:07.16 | captain_proton | its funny, i've lived here my entire life and never gotten around to skiing |
| 06:07.51 | scanline | hmm... an advertisement for a "Mysterious Mysteries of Strange Mystery" type show |
| 06:08.04 | captain_proton | scanline: ooh whats it called? |
| 06:08.11 | scanline | "out of the blue" I think |
| 06:08.19 | captain_proton | scanline: oh, dan said he saw an ad on fox or something for some new show they're creating |
| 06:08.28 | MrApathyCream | hmmm i've now gotten triplicates of all my emails for today |
| 06:08.29 | scanline | this is on scifi |
| 06:08.34 | captain_proton | scanline: with something about an experiment to see how many helium balloons it takes to make a chicken fly |
| 06:08.39 | scanline | haha |
| 06:09.07 | scanline | let's try.. dosfstools |
| 06:10.06 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Steamboat Springs or Beaver Creek, two of my favorites! |
| 06:10.46 | scanline | =) |
| 06:11.02 | scanline | and I'd be the only one there that doesn't actually play bzflag! |
| 06:11.13 | captain_proton | scanline: not if doug comes |
| 06:11.13 | JBDiGriz | Pat didn't seem interested in having us come to his part of the world. |
| 06:11.28 | scanline | hehe |
| 06:11.48 | captain_proton | its kind of like how file hangs out in picogui but probably has never successfully run a picogui app |
| 06:11.48 | scanline | hooray for devfs |
| 06:11.58 | scanline | yep |
| 06:12.43 | JBDiGriz | scanline: Why do you hang out with these reprobates if you don't frag them? |
| 06:12.54 | scanline | JBDiGriz: I like to bug captain_proton |
| 06:13.08 | scanline | and occasionally patlabor, fiberchunks, and Noodlebot |
| 06:13.12 | scanline | er, Noodleman |
| 06:13.49 | JBDiGriz | scanline: It's also fun to hunt them down and shoot them! |
| 06:13.51 | scanline | wow, it already compiled arm-linux-gcc |
| 06:14.02 | scanline | JBDiGriz: yeah, but I only play shooty-games at LAN parties |
| 06:15.37 | captain_proton | scanline: you rat bastard |
| 06:15.51 | scanline | it's so cute! |
| 06:16.25 | scanline | and when their bootloader runs in 320x240 on this thing, it actually looks low-res |
| 06:17.43 | scanline | woo.. this scene in SG-1 has caustics on a low-contrast background, and it makes the compression artifacts go all woogly |
| 06:17.56 | captain_proton | ooh wooglyness? |
| 06:18.24 | scanline | yeah.. the little squares in the areas it doesn't deem high enough in information content to actually encode any picture for start wiggling around in wavy patterns |
| 06:18.56 | scanline | oh, that's cool |
| 06:19.54 | scanline | and the latest excuse to make coffee... the roof of my mouth itches! |
| 06:20.23 | captain_proton | some people just use their tongue |
| 06:21.56 | scanline | but that just makes it itch more, yaknow? |
| 06:22.47 | captain_proton | ... |
| 06:34.54 | gurud00d | anyone up for a game or two of bzflag |
| 06:57.29 | captain_proton | =} |
| 06:57.48 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 07:11.10 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 07:11.20 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: do you know if the pyramid collision stuff was ever a patch? |
| 07:20.53 | *** join/#bzflag cniV (~kchan@c16991.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 07:25.32 | captain_proton | The SourceForge.net Website is currently down for maintenance. |
| 07:25.33 | captain_proton | BAH |
| 07:26.12 | scanline | gah... |
| 07:26.43 | cniV | is the stuff in HEAD now? |
| 07:26.47 | captain_proton | sourceforge needs to get their act together |
| 07:26.50 | captain_proton | cniV: yeah |
| 07:26.54 | cniV | ok cool |
| 07:27.17 | cniV | btw is there anybody else hacking on the karma system? |
| 07:27.22 | captain_proton | not that i know of |
| 07:27.30 | cniV | heh ok |
| 07:27.32 | cniV | solo it is :) |
| 07:27.32 | captain_proton | are you thinking of implementing it? |
| 07:27.40 | cniV | yeah ive had a few talks to tim about it |
| 07:27.52 | captain_proton | if so, have you come up with a system for calculating karma? |
| 07:27.56 | cniV | its my thesis topic and he seemed rather cool |
| 07:28.19 | cniV | the suggested means was similar to advogato right? |
| 07:28.45 | captain_proton | sorta |
| 07:29.07 | cniV | i'll use that as a start |
| 07:29.23 | captain_proton | the advogato algorithm or the code? |
| 07:29.30 | cniV | algorithm |
| 07:29.32 | captain_proton | because the algorithm is ill-documented and the code is a mess :) |
| 07:29.42 | cniV | eh its ok :) |
| 07:30.02 | cniV | its times like this that im happy ive got a math major :) |
| 07:30.15 | captain_proton | heh |
| 07:30.46 | cniV | but yeah i like your idea |
| 07:30.53 | cniV | the one up on wiki that is |
| 07:31.01 | cniV | i think i'll build on that somewhat |
| 07:31.25 | captain_proton | that "idea" has some issues |
| 07:31.43 | cniV | yeah |
| 07:31.44 | captain_proton | like the fact that there will be many paths from the root to any particular node |
| 07:31.54 | captain_proton | so they need to be averaged or something |
| 07:32.16 | cniV | im thinking of some sort of pruning |
| 07:32.25 | captain_proton | well |
| 07:32.35 | captain_proton | say the root gives both you and i a +5 |
| 07:32.35 | learnerAtWork | heh heh, it looks like apple leaked an announcement on it's own site.. |
| 07:32.42 | captain_proton | and then we go and give learnerAtWork a -5 ;) |
| 07:32.53 | learnerAtWork | hey! |
| 07:32.59 | captain_proton | there are two equally valid paths |
| 07:33.05 | captain_proton | both of which need to be taken into account |
| 07:33.35 | learnerAtWork | they are *not* equally valid.. grrr |
| 07:34.28 | learnerAtWork | anything that gives me negative karma is just wrong |
| 07:34.34 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 07:34.35 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 07:36.42 | captain_proton | also, i had put some stuff in the karma wiki page about how people couldn't rate other people a lot - thats kinda invalid |
| 07:36.55 | captain_proton | it makes much more sense to have a single "impression" metric per person |
| 07:38.31 | cniV | is it just me or do those two sentences seem contradictory..... |
| 07:38.44 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 07:38.47 | captain_proton | lemme just edit the wiki ;) |
| 07:38.57 | cniV | hehe good idea :) |
| 07:40.37 | captain_proton | i had put something in there from a karma system on a web bullitain board where people could assign karma to individual posts |
| 07:40.43 | captain_proton | and it doesn't really translate |
| 07:56.44 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Feature Requests 627128 (New Flag: Antimatter): Status->'Closed' Resolution->'Later' |
| 07:59.04 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Feature Requests 695139 (Joystick/Game controller support): Status->'Closed' Resolution->'Duplicate' |
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| 09:33.40 | strayer | good morning.. |
| 09:36.59 | Chestal | morning |
| 09:38.46 | strayer | ...wow...someone is alive... ;] |
| 09:38.52 | Chestal | hmm, am I? |
| 09:39.20 | mmu_man | plop |
| 09:39.21 | strayer | well, I hope so.... |
| 09:41.29 | strayer | question: should I leave the IPs of the bzflag players in my online player list?...someone demured... |
| 09:41.48 | strayer | ...about the showed IPs... |
| 09:42.28 | Chestal | probably better to not show them |
| 09:42.57 | strayer | hm...ok...then I will change this... |
| 09:43.08 | Chestal | for future versions with registration I'd liek to get rid of the possibility to see other players' IPs altogether |
| 09:45.02 | strayer | hm...even for the server administrators? |
| 09:45.58 | Chestal | it should not be necessary for kick/ban anymore |
| 09:46.49 | Chestal | so, maybe there would still be a command to get at the IPs easily for the main admin, but second level admins should not have to use it |
| 09:47.07 | Chestal | but I guess it will take some time until we get there |
| 09:47.43 | strayer | ah..ok...a lot of more functions especially for administration planned...now programmers R needed :) |
| 09:48.17 | strayer | btw...I noticed that sth like 'register' was shown when I pressed 'o' ...what does it mean? |
| 09:49.13 | strayer | I found no documentation about this... |
| 09:50.25 | Chestal | read the bzfs man page |
| 09:51.14 | Chestal | near the bottom it explains the new admin commands |
| 09:54.38 | strayer | ehem....where? |
| 09:56.10 | larsl_56k | "USER MANAGEMENT" |
| 09:57.13 | larsl_56k | "/deregster [callsign]" should probably be "/deregister [callsign]" though. =) |
| 09:57.49 | strayer | ahhh...there :)...stupid me... |
| 10:00.03 | Chestal | uh, cvs is broken? |
| 10:00.08 | Chestal | cvs server: failed to create lock directory for `/cvsroot/bzflag/bzflag' (/cvsroot/bzflag/bzflag/#cvs.lock): Permission denied |
| 10:00.36 | larsl_56k | Do you get that every time? |
| 10:00.42 | Chestal | twice now |
| 10:01.10 | Chestal | uhm, now it doesn't accept my agent's private key |
| 10:01.30 | Chestal | now it does, but the lock problem is back |
| 10:01.39 | Chestal | guess sf is messing around |
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| 11:03.00 | Hamster_afk | anyone else having problems with bzflag on mandrake 9.x |
| 11:03.30 | sussudio | ~mandrake |
| 11:03.31 | | somebody said mandrake was the best linux distro or the worst linux distro, or a plant that screams when you rip it out of the ground and kills you for removing it, or that guy who used to work for VA that is also doing that voice synth stuff |
| 11:06.08 | Secret_Hamster | yea still don't answer the question though |
| 11:09.40 | sussudio | ~debian |
| 11:09.41 | | well, debian is a Linux-Distribution (http://www.debian.org) or very cool or the best thing since sliced macaroni and cheese, or one of the few respectable distros |
| 11:09.54 | sussudio | :-B |
| 11:20.22 | Secret_Hamster | thbbbbt |
| 11:20.27 | Secret_Hamster | I'm off cya laterz |
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| 12:45.14 | mmu_man | is SF still bork ? |
| 12:45.26 | Mayhem | #define bork |
| 12:46.21 | sussudio | ~bork |
| 12:46.22 | | bork = sussudio + t-10 secs till impact |
| 12:46.37 | mmu_man | eh |
| 12:46.52 | sussudio | ~pig mmu_man |
| 12:46.53 | | mmu_man is 79% pig! |
| 12:47.03 | Mayhem | I'm in the process of an anoymous checkout... going very slowly |
| 12:47.21 | mmu_man | at least it does work ? |
| 12:47.34 | Mayhem | you gotta keep trying... |
| 12:57.38 | learnerAtWork | ~dict bork |
| 12:57.56 | learnerAtWork | ~pork |
| 12:57.56 | | is gooooood |
| 12:58.06 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 12:58.53 | Mayhem | ~learner |
| 12:59.34 | learnerAtWork | he has to look in "the *big* book" |
| 12:59.51 | sussudio | pigbook? |
| 13:00.06 | learnerAtWork | oink.. sqeal! |
| 13:01.26 | mmu_man | ~dict bzflag |
| 13:01.34 | mmu_man | ugh ? |
| 13:01.43 | mmu_man | lol |
| 13:02.56 | learnerAtWork | you on the can, Mayhem? hehehe |
| 13:03.25 | Mayhem | :p |
| 13:05.40 | mmu_man | ~plop |
| 13:05.58 | mmu_man | ibot how come you don't know how to plop ??? |
| 13:05.58 | | i haven't a clue, mmu_man |
| 13:06.20 | mmu_man | what I said :P |
| 13:06.35 | Mayhem | ~glomp |
| 13:08.22 | sussudio | ~french mmu_man |
| 13:08.23 | | ACTION sticks it's tongue down mmu_man's throat to taste what mmu_man had for dinner |
| 13:08.38 | mmu_man | ugh |
| 13:08.39 | Mayhem | ewwww |
| 13:08.44 | mmu_man | ibot you are sick |
| 13:08.44 | | mmu_man: I think you lost me on that one |
| 13:08.54 | Mayhem | haha |
| 13:08.58 | mmu_man | ~slurp sussudio |
| 13:09.09 | mmu_man | erf, that's for another bot :-( |
| 13:26.59 | breadhat | ~slurp is <reply> see french |
| 13:27.00 | | ...but slurp is already something else... |
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| 14:26.03 | sussudio | ~kill stupid people |
| 14:26.04 | | ACTION executes killall -9 stupid people |
| 14:27.17 | sussudio | damn the idiot on slashdot that claimed all ramchips were soldered onto the motherboard before the existence of SIMMS and damn the morons that gave him +5 insightful for it. |
| 14:27.42 | fiberchunks | I have a solution for the /. problem |
| 14:27.53 | fiberchunks | don't read it :p |
| 14:28.16 | fiberchunks | the onion, is more informative, and contains less MSG per ounce of reading goodness |
| 14:28.30 | sussudio | i bet you read k5 |
| 14:28.44 | fiberchunks | kuro5hin? used to, haven't lately though |
| 14:28.58 | fiberchunks | lately being within the past 6 months or so |
| 14:29.17 | fiberchunks | why? |
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| 15:39.20 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || g2 released 2003-06-17 || Subversive planning for the next release http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/WorkInProgress || <TimRiker> I have slice for want english speak too. |
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| 15:45.01 | david_v | Chestal: (or anyone who might know) how do i start a CTF match on 59999 or the like? |
| 15:45.17 | Mayhem | you type /lagstats ? |
| 15:45.22 | Mayhem | oops |
| 15:45.25 | Mayhem | i mean /countdown |
| 15:45.26 | bzgirl | david_v: /countdwn |
| 15:45.36 | david_v | thanks |
| 15:46.02 | david_v | for official matches, is there another command or someone has to manually add the scores? |
| 15:47.17 | Mayhem | manually |
| 15:47.32 | david_v | ok |
| 15:47.34 | Mayhem | a team leader can do that, or ask chestal |
| 15:47.53 | david_v | yeah that shouldn't be a problem |
| 15:50.37 | bzgirl | david_v: do you have a match today? |
| 15:54.11 | sussudio | :-| |
| 15:54.28 | david_v | bzgirl: no, i am just preparing. shame though, Paladin had to leave (personal reasons) |
| 15:55.16 | Chestal | Paladin? which team would that be? |
| 15:55.36 | david_v | Fortix |
| 15:55.38 | bzgirl | paladin is on Fortrix |
| 15:55.40 | david_v | so i'm alone again |
| 15:55.44 | david_v | well, he was |
| 15:55.48 | bzgirl | oh |
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| 15:56.18 | bzgirl | david_v: there was a player Ash looking for a ctf team |
| 15:56.45 | bzgirl | david_v: i will mention your team to him |
| 15:56.54 | david_v | ok, thanks |
| 15:57.08 | david_v | i have never seen him on Ducati though... hm |
| 15:57.28 | david_v | could be a timezone issue of course. but anyway, you see, i barely play anywhere but on Ducati |
| 15:57.33 | bzgirl | he plays FFA alot, hes pretty good at that style |
| 15:58.01 | david_v | hm, i doubt i am |
| 15:58.43 | david_v | i might have another candidate nevertheless, plus i haven't really searched for teammates yet |
| 15:58.52 | sussudio | ~google for teammates |
| 15:58.56 | Noodlebot | Welcome To TeamMates, http://www.teammates.org/ |
| 15:58.56 | Noodlebot | Teammates for Kids Foundation, http://www.touchemall.com/ |
| 15:58.56 | Noodlebot | Teammates - Sports Spectrum, http://www.christianitytoday.com/sports/features/teammates.html |
| 15:59.01 | david_v | sussudio: lol |
| 16:00.39 | david_v | i'll go playing now, brb |
| 16:01.50 | Mayhem | wow, the debian g2 package is nearly twice the size of the g0 |
| 16:02.10 | Mayhem | server that is |
| 16:02.53 | sussudio | didnt strip it? |
| 16:03.29 | Mayhem | possible... might be other stuff included. |
| 16:03.58 | sussudio | rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 225791 Jun 19 02:45 bzfs |
| 16:04.08 | sussudio | athlon:/usr/games# strip bzfs |
| 16:04.15 | sussudio | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 188108 Jun 20 18:03 bzfs |
| 16:04.25 | Mayhem | I haven't installed it yet, just noticed on the d/l page... |
| 16:04.35 | Mayhem | gimme a sec :) |
| 16:04.53 | sussudio | i dont really notice, i have a 800kbit connection |
| 16:05.47 | Mayhem | I have a 512k connection, and the file is 160kb :) |
| 16:05.53 | sussudio | :-B |
| 16:06.09 | sussudio | yeah but that's with overhead |
| 16:06.21 | sussudio | it's probably more like 450 or something |
| 16:06.35 | sussudio | what do you use, pppoe? |
| 16:07.19 | Mayhem | pppoa |
| 16:07.29 | Mayhem | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 225791 Jun 19 01:45 bzfs |
| 16:07.37 | Mayhem | strip bzfs |
| 16:07.44 | Mayhem | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 188108 Jun 20 17:10 bzfs |
| 16:07.50 | sussudio | :-| |
| 16:07.51 | Mayhem | same! |
| 16:07.58 | sussudio | who'd have thought :-P |
| 16:09.14 | Mayhem | bzflag wasn't stripped either |
| 16:11.28 | sussudio | uh huh. |
| 16:14.10 | sussudio | let me see you stripped down to the boooone |
| 16:14.26 | sussudio | let me see you make decisions without your televisiooon |
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| 16:20.18 | Mayhem | ~d |
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| 16:33.13 | sussudio | bah.. cheater-wannabees |
| 16:34.33 | sussudio | is there some way to test if your windoze registry is fux0red? |
| 16:38.02 | Secret_Hamster | isn't there a reg checker in the latest editions? |
| 16:39.24 | mmu_man | SCANREG32.EXE ? |
| 16:44.46 | Mayhem | Tell me if I'm wrong, but it seems observers get all their data over TCP, not UDP |
| 16:46.35 | Patlabor221 | it should be both, just like normal people. |
| 16:47.16 | sussudio | i dont have scanreg32 |
| 16:47.17 | Mayhem | doesn't seem to... |
| 16:47.36 | Patlabor221 | I guess it could use the old TCP only way |
| 16:47.39 | Patlabor221 | but that would be slow |
| 16:47.45 | Chestal | it shouldn't do that |
| 16:47.59 | Chestal | but then the current handshake when joinin gis so complicated that it might be messed up |
| 16:48.08 | Patlabor221 | shots and stuff will be sent TCP |
| 16:48.16 | Mayhem | I'm running packet captures, when I play on ducati it switches to UDP, when I observe it is all TCP |
| 16:48.17 | Chestal | not shots, shots are UDP |
| 16:48.32 | Patlabor221 | I thought they were TCP. |
| 16:48.37 | Patlabor221 | maybe that changed |
| 16:48.53 | Chestal | shots and position updates are UDP, everythign else TCP |
| 16:49.01 | Chestal | ok, lagpings are UDP, too |
| 16:49.42 | Mayhem | hmm, wouldn't want to lose a shotBegin... |
| 16:49.47 | bryjen | i would think you'd want shots to be via reliable transport |
| 16:49.53 | Chestal | next step in the protocol is to get rid of reconnect, move to simpler player ids, get rid of all multicast stuff and also dump the TCP/UDP negotiation I'd say |
| 16:49.54 | Patlabor221 | nope, thats why I thought they were TCP |
| 16:50.01 | sussudio | hmm if a Sun 20" monitor cant go lower than 1024x768, how does it handle text mode? |
| 16:50.06 | Chestal | a retransmitted shot would be useless |
| 16:50.24 | Chestal | would come too late |
| 16:50.32 | Mayhem | true |
| 16:50.57 | bryjen | losing shot info wouldn't be a problem too? |
| 16:51.15 | Patlabor221 | need a good server/client time sync, so that the shot starting time can be sent |
| 16:51.26 | Mayhem | could lead to the occasional "shot passing through player" |
| 16:52.11 | Chestal | timestamps in messages could be good. I experimented with it some time ago for pos messages, didn't work out very well back then, though |
| 16:52.14 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure there are a number of problems like that with the server now |
| 16:52.20 | bryjen | so its a coin toss, which one is worse :( |
| 16:52.43 | Mayhem | losing shots hasn't seemed to be a problem so far |
| 16:52.48 | Patlabor221 | Timestamps are only as good as your ability to estimate server/client lag |
| 16:53.05 | Chestal | Pat: actualyl I tried to use it to compensate lag |
| 16:53.13 | Chestal | Pat: was sending delta t |
| 16:53.22 | Chestal | or, better, to compensate jitter |
| 16:54.00 | Patlabor221 | ohh I would make them seperate. server timestamps eveything with a "global" time, and another system trys to keep and update the server time |
| 16:54.26 | Patlabor221 | this is the kinda stuff I want to test with enet |
| 16:54.48 | fiberchunks | lo Patlabor221 -- how ya feelin? |
| 16:54.54 | Patlabor221 | better |
| 16:54.57 | fiberchunks | good |
| 16:54.58 | Patlabor221 | hungry but better |
| 16:55.07 | fiberchunks | elf need food badly? |
| 16:55.17 | Patlabor221 | tho I selpt right thu the alarm today ( didn't get up till 8:13) |
| 16:55.22 | Patlabor221 | big time. |
| 16:55.22 | Mayhem | Chestal: are you planning to move shot hit calculation into the server? |
| 16:55.34 | fiberchunks | you get my pm? |
| 16:55.37 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 16:55.41 | fiberchunks | urgh |
| 16:55.43 | Patlabor221 | ooohh the drama |
| 16:55.44 | fiberchunks | :\ |
| 16:55.46 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 16:55.53 | Patlabor221 | it's in chat so I don't care realy. |
| 16:56.10 | fiberchunks | yeah, nor i -- just thought the correlation was interesting / aggravating |
| 16:56.36 | Chestal | Mayhem: not sure, I think this is a major change and should possibly be tested in a different branch to see whether it works well or not |
| 16:57.10 | Mayhem | k |
| 16:57.10 | Patlabor221 | like it's that hard to get BZ to compile on windows, you hit F7 |
| 16:57.24 | fiberchunks | oh, blastard posted somethin bout tank textures -- to which I responded -- but indicated that you or the good captain would be better suited to answer such a thing: http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/viewtopic.php?t=764 |
| 16:57.31 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 16:58.58 | Patlabor221 | I replyed |
| 16:59.51 | Patlabor221 | I'll be specing out the "grand model unification thery" sometime this weekend |
| 17:03.41 | fiberchunks | what's the story with SDL integration? pipe-dream or real voodoo for next release ? |
| 17:04.28 | Patlabor221 | it's not a drop in thing |
| 17:04.54 | Patlabor221 | it would be made as a seperate platform, but I think some cleanup needs to happen first. |
| 17:05.33 | fiberchunks | oh, I knew it wasn't drop in -- but my, how nice that would be to have one lib for sound and input |
| 17:05.39 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:05.51 | Patlabor221 | well I would run sound thu openAL |
| 17:06.01 | Patlabor221 | sdlMixer does not impress me |
| 17:06.05 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 17:06.06 | david_v | cya later folks |
| 17:06.12 | fiberchunks | what's the licensing on openAL? |
| 17:06.14 | fiberchunks | later |
| 17:06.21 | Patlabor221 | I think it's all gpl |
| 17:06.27 | Patlabor221 | it's fmod that has issues |
| 17:06.32 | fiberchunks | yeah |
| 17:06.49 | fiberchunks | openAL does not depend upon fmod then? |
| 17:06.56 | Patlabor221 | but as part of the cleanup each BZ subsystem should be abastracted |
| 17:07.09 | Patlabor221 | no fmod is a difrent thing entirely, it was just a thing I used. |
| 17:07.13 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 17:07.34 | Patlabor221 | each platform can decide what parts of SDL it wants to use, vid, sound, input, etcc. |
| 17:07.40 | fiberchunks | what are the major subsys in bz: sound, input, graphics... |
| 17:07.46 | Patlabor221 | like some systems don't have GL in SDL yet |
| 17:07.52 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 17:08.03 | Patlabor221 | right now, they are kinda mixed |
| 17:08.09 | Patlabor221 | there is vid, media, and sound |
| 17:08.16 | Patlabor221 | it's all mixed into platform |
| 17:08.37 | fiberchunks | so is the general idea to revert back to a 1.8 type of code cleanup? |
| 17:08.58 | Patlabor221 | but for like the BeOS port, we need to get all the GL calls inside some sort of "begin draw, end Draw" set, cut is has wierd issues with thread lokcing. |
| 17:09.46 | Patlabor221 | 1.9 should probalby not have that many big features, but just patchs, proto changes, and clean up |
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| 17:11.27 | learnerAtWork | ah |
| 17:11.31 | Mayhem | wb learnerAtWork |
| 17:11.46 | learnerAtWork | huh? |
| 17:11.56 | learnerAtWork | ~wb |
| 17:11.57 | | thx |
| 17:12.04 | Mayhem | wELCOME bACK |
| 17:12.08 | learnerAtWork | ah.. hehehe |
| 17:12.15 | JBDiGriz | welcome back/warner bros/wannabe |
| 17:12.16 | learnerAtWork | thx |
| 17:12.30 | learnerAtWork | tummy full now |
| 17:13.03 | sussudio | wb = warrior bunnies |
| 17:13.11 | fiberchunks | alrighty, /me is off to visit the land of the parent -- to install gentoo -- he has a play system now, so wants to muck with it |
| 17:13.37 | learnerAtWork | gentoo eh? no debian? |
| 17:13.38 | learnerAtWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:13.50 | learnerAtWork | debian seems to be popular here.. heheh |
| 17:14.08 | fiberchunks | no debian -- he wants a source install to play with -- sadist ;) |
| 17:14.10 | david_v | fiberchunks: good luck, i'm running it now, that should keep you out of it ;) |
| 17:14.15 | JBDiGriz | lots of deb-utantes |
| 17:14.26 | fiberchunks | how? |
| 17:14.42 | Patlabor221 | that is presently being investigated |
| 17:14.43 | fiberchunks | ~dict sadist |
| 17:14.52 | david_v | anyway, cya later fellow geeks and flaggers |
| 17:14.57 | fiberchunks | whoops - wrong word -- masochist |
| 17:15.01 | fiberchunks | ~dict masochist |
| 17:15.02 | david_v | hehe |
| 17:15.08 | fiberchunks | there it is ;) |
| 17:15.33 | fiberchunks | Patlabor221> what did you do to break poor debian? |
| 17:15.46 | Patlabor221 | updating, tho it may be due to bad hardware |
| 17:15.56 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 17:15.59 | Patlabor221 | went to sid |
| 17:16.25 | fiberchunks | hope you feel mo better - later on |
| 17:16.34 | Patlabor221 | see ya |
| 17:19.57 | bzgirl | Patlabor221: apt still broken? |
| 17:21.16 | Patlabor221 | I worked on it a bit last night. I haven't tried it today. I'm at work now. |
| 17:22.27 | sussudio | what's the bzflag coding song? war pigs? |
| 17:23.15 | Patlabor221 | http://bfoj.bakadigital.com/things_jeff_thinks_are_good/KMDFM%20-%20Ultra.mp3 |
| 17:23.29 | sussudio | :-P |
| 17:23.57 | Patlabor221 | that's just the speed song. |
| 17:24.22 | sussudio | what's the crack song? |
| 17:24.34 | captain_proton | time to go in to work |
| 17:25.07 | Patlabor221 | http://bfoj.bakadigital.com/wierd/South%20Park%20-%20Come%20Sail%20Away%20%20Eric%20Cartman.mp3.. |
| 17:25.29 | sussudio | 19:24:53 (83.30 KB/s) - `KMDFM%20-%20Ultra.mp3' saved [3831990/3831990] |
| 17:25.30 | sussudio | snort. |
| 17:25.53 | sussudio | i captured Cartman's "She works hard for the money" from an episode |
| 17:26.07 | Patlabor221 | this is the entire thing from an album |
| 17:26.12 | Patlabor221 | it's hard to listen to |
| 17:27.05 | sussudio | i'm not entirely impressed by the mix on this kmfdm song |
| 17:27.24 | Patlabor221 | my beilefs do not require you to be. |
| 17:43.31 | Mayhem | how do I take a screenshot in bz? |
| 17:45.06 | Mayhem | nevermind, its gone now |
| 17:45.40 | Mayhem | I just ran a ctf server, and when I joined all the bases had buildings in them, causing my client to lock up |
| 17:48.38 | learnerAtWork | hehe, mayhem.. gurud00d found some interesting combination of options last night that let nobody shoot anyone else.. |
| 17:50.06 | sussudio | Mayhem : intermip? |
| 17:53.05 | gurud00d | lol |
| 17:53.08 | gurud00d | sure did |
| 17:53.12 | gurud00d | and proud of it too :P |
| 17:53.41 | learnerAtWork | can you send those to me d00d? |
| 17:53.49 | learnerAtWork | I'd like to replicate it |
| 17:53.52 | learnerAtWork | and fix it |
| 17:54.09 | gurud00d | i'd have to find it again but yeah |
| 17:54.38 | gurud00d | you could shoot someone else, but you couldn't see them |
| 17:55.32 | learnerAtWork | no.. __YOU__ could shoot someone else.. I couldn't see them or shoot them |
| 17:55.37 | gurud00d | ahh |
| 17:55.37 | Patlabor221 | cap you around? |
| 17:55.42 | learnerAtWork | and I could see you, but not shoot you |
| 17:56.00 | prot-work | Patlabor221: yah |
| 17:57.17 | Patlabor221 | do you recall the CMS I talked about with Tim? |
| 17:57.25 | prot-work | a little |
| 17:57.53 | Patlabor221 | do you think it should be integrated in the client, or a seperate app that's called by BZ? |
| 17:58.13 | prot-work | integrated into the client |
| 17:58.24 | Patlabor221 | I'm trying to work over the specifics in my head so I can make a spec for it. |
| 17:58.26 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 17:58.53 | prot-work | CMS should be a module on both sides - server & client |
| 17:59.17 | Patlabor221 | well I am debating about the server |
| 17:59.32 | Patlabor221 | since some people may want to share CMS databases |
| 17:59.50 | Patlabor221 | or allow multiple CMS databases |
| 17:59.52 | gurud00d | who is the original author of bzflag? |
| 17:59.58 | prot-work | so create a nifty 'CMS package' format that people can share files around |
| 18:00.04 | prot-work | gurud00d: chris schoeneman |
| 18:00.18 | Patlabor221 | cap, I mean across difrent machines |
| 18:00.32 | prot-work | Patlabor221: huh... ? |
| 18:00.33 | Patlabor221 | like if all the servers form one leauge want to use one centeral CMS server |
| 18:00.39 | gurud00d | if you ever talk to him, tell him i said thank you for the outstanding game |
| 18:01.11 | prot-work | you could email him yourself...i mean, his email address -is- listed when you start up the game |
| 18:01.22 | gurud00d | it has very generic and basic graphics, but the bandwidth usage is very low and the gameplay couldn't get any better |
| 18:01.26 | prot-work | Patlabor221: they could still have a 'league package' that gets shared around |
| 18:01.31 | gurud00d | ahh, i never pay attention |
| 18:01.33 | prot-work | which would include maps, textures, tank models, etc |
| 18:01.41 | Patlabor221 | or like if Tim wants to run a "Standard" CMS server, then each server can have another set of ones that are searched in order, so they coud just have the ones they want, and not dupe data |
| 18:02.11 | Patlabor221 | cap, yeah but they have to ditribute that package everytime it changes |
| 18:02.11 | prot-work | Patlabor221: thats starting to get really complicated |
| 18:02.16 | gurud00d | what about adding a feature client-side to use user defined images for the tanks, buildings, etc? |
| 18:02.23 | Patlabor221 | actualy I think it's kinda simple |
| 18:02.30 | Patlabor221 | grund this is what I am talking about |
| 18:02.50 | Patlabor221 | Me and Tim had talked a lot on how he would accept it being implemented |
| 18:02.56 | prot-work | Patlabor221: with the current netcode situation, it would get -really- hairy to be contacting servers all over |
| 18:03.08 | Patlabor221 | cap, if I make the server a seperate app. it can do it's own thing. |
| 18:03.15 | Patlabor221 | then it dosn't use the netcode |
| 18:03.20 | Patlabor221 | could make it use enet :) |
| 18:03.24 | bryjen | why not just make the client able to fetch that stuff from an http server? |
| 18:03.28 | prot-work | but the client-side implementation gets icky |
| 18:03.34 | Patlabor221 | that is something I am also looking at |
| 18:03.37 | gurud00d | in order to keep the lag low, you would have to send instructions to the client from the server on what images should be loaded |
| 18:03.42 | Patlabor221 | cap I don't think so |
| 18:03.46 | Patlabor221 | I will make a test module |
| 18:03.55 | prot-work | Patlabor221: at least until we clean up the client network situation ;-) |
| 18:03.57 | gurud00d | and of course keep it modular |
| 18:04.04 | Patlabor221 | grund it's a one shot thing, not a per frame thing |
| 18:04.43 | Patlabor221 | cap, I would like to change the map formtat to send any unkown fields in maps to the client as text. |
| 18:05.05 | gurud00d | are you calling me grund? |
| 18:05.07 | prot-work | i'd like to change the map format to be xml ;) |
| 18:05.11 | Patlabor221 | sorry |
| 18:05.14 | Patlabor221 | funky font :) |
| 18:05.23 | gurud00d | i was looking around for the nick 'grund*' |
| 18:05.31 | Patlabor221 | cap, I don't see what the XML buys us |
| 18:05.56 | Patlabor221 | since the more complex they get the more they are not going to be human tweakable |
| 18:06.11 | gurud00d | so make an external editor then |
| 18:06.16 | Patlabor221 | we have one |
| 18:06.31 | Patlabor221 | and if we have an editor, what does XML buy us, otther then a binary format or something |
| 18:06.46 | gurud00d | we don't need xml |
| 18:06.46 | prot-work | Patlabor221: it makes it so worlds are still human editable |
| 18:07.05 | gurud00d | how are the maps stored now? |
| 18:07.23 | Patlabor221 | cap all XML gives is a structure, and I think it's overkill |
| 18:07.29 | bryjen | funky almost flat text file |
| 18:07.30 | Patlabor221 | we could come up with a simple structure |
| 18:07.38 | Patlabor221 | it's not almost flat, it is flat |
| 18:08.39 | gurud00d | so a line goes something like this: 1,2,5,7,1,1,9 etc? |
| 18:08.46 | bryjen | yeah. no hierarchy, just a little grouping |
| 18:08.47 | prot-work | huh? |
| 18:09.39 | gurud00d | we should group the world data (i.e., walls) in one area of the file, starting positions in another, and then flag locatons in another |
| 18:10.03 | gurud00d | not only would it be easier to edit, but it would most likely be a bit faster to load |
| 18:10.12 | prot-work | spawn points and flag-entry-zones don't exist in the world format |
| 18:10.22 | bryjen | prot-work: yet ;) |
| 18:10.22 | gurud00d | ahh i see |
| 18:10.42 | gurud00d | the spawn points should always be random anyway |
| 18:10.51 | gurud00d | otherwise you will get some cheaters |
| 18:11.08 | gurud00d | insert [more] in the above post where needed |
| 18:11.47 | prot-work | the client should never be responsible for choosing a spawn point |
| 18:11.48 | bryjen | exact points, no. but areas or zones, maybe |
| 18:12.08 | bryjen | same thing with flags |
| 18:12.21 | gurud00d | also, we should store the game type, number of points before end of game (if applicable), time limit (again, if applicable), etc |
| 18:12.22 | JBDiGriz | gurud00d: What patch for the next release would you like to work on? |
| 18:12.37 | gurud00d | JBDiGriz: honestly, it doesn't matter to me |
| 18:12.44 | prot-work | gurud00d: why would those be stored in a map file? :P |
| 18:13.03 | gurud00d | prot-work: so you could implement a feature to cycle the maps without restarting the server |
| 18:13.21 | JBDiGriz | gurud00d: Add your name to an item in the wipi. |
| 18:13.22 | bryjen | those parameters are command line options. Or in the "config file" |
| 18:13.30 | sussudio | wipi for your bunghole |
| 18:13.41 | gurud00d | and all the map details (like flags used, time limit, max points, etc) could be a per map entry |
| 18:13.50 | prot-work | gurud00d: there are other things that need to happen first |
| 18:13.56 | gurud00d | true |
| 18:14.09 | JBDiGriz | ~sus |
| 18:14.13 | | Shut Up, Doug. |
| 18:14.21 | bryjen | changing the map mid game? |
| 18:14.26 | gurud00d | no |
| 18:14.32 | JBDiGriz | ibot needs to know sussudio too! |
| 18:14.32 | | JBDiGriz: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 18:14.44 | gurud00d | for instance, when running my server i like to cycle the map after everyone leaves every once in a while |
| 18:15.19 | gurud00d | it's a pain to exit the client, kill the server, restart the server, then finally restart the client |
| 18:15.29 | gurud00d | maybe a favorites list for hte client too |
| 18:15.42 | sussudio | gurud00d : it's "TEH" client, d00d. |
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| 18:16.03 | bryjen | the server re-inits when everyone leaves anyway |
| 18:16.10 | gurud00d | ahh i didn't know that |
| 18:16.19 | sussudio | if you wanna be leet, do it right |
| 18:16.34 | gurud00d | but what the server does not do is allow different game types in mid-run |
| 18:16.57 | sussudio | label-less cdr's suck |
| 18:17.48 | bryjen | well, it doesn't exit and reload. so you cant change the options or map. just cleans itself up |
| 18:20.05 | prot-work | it can exit if you've got the right command line option |
| 18:20.48 | bryjen | yeah. with -g it'll exit, but then you need something external to restart it |
| 18:22.06 | learnerAtWork | ok, I'm gonna shutdown now -- going to try and bring up a triple-display setup just to piss off my coworkers who can't get dual-displays working.. hehehe |
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| 18:26.55 | Tupone | ~SWAG |
| 18:27.45 | prot-work | so what should the config file look like? :) |
| 18:33.27 | prot-work | hmm |
| 18:33.35 | prot-work | perhaps just like the 1.8 config file without the xml wrapping |
| 18:34.25 | sussudio | ~eat xmk |
| 18:34.26 | | ACTION eats xmk and falls over dead |
| 18:34.33 | prot-work | ~xmk |
| 18:35.03 | bryjen | no wonder it died. the XML was malformed. |
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| 18:35.17 | JBDiGriz | Tupone: Simple Wild Ass Guess |
| 18:35.30 | JBDiGriz | That was bad timing. :( |
| 18:36.34 | prot-work | heh |
| 18:39.24 | Patlabor221 | well I have an idea, I will test it |
| 18:48.14 | prot-work | hmm |
| 18:48.25 | prot-work | we should allow commands to come from the server |
| 18:48.30 | prot-work | with appropriate access control |
| 18:48.53 | prot-work | er, maybe not :) |
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| 18:49.33 | larsl_56k | Piping them in? |
| 18:50.23 | prot-work | larsl_56k: i mean 1.8-style "commands" |
| 18:58.10 | sussudio | ~xmk |
| 18:58.11 | | eXtremely Muscular Kittens |
| 19:01.36 | CIA | commit by chestal: typo |
| 19:01.37 | Noodleman | xanthic monkey kharma |
| 19:03.09 | JBDiGriz | xerox my keister |
| 19:04.35 | sussudio | JBDiGriz : it is advised not to xerox your keister, as the glass plate is not meant to carry that amount of weight |
| 19:09.53 | Mayhem | I ran a server with this command: bzfs -d -cr -h -mo 4 -mp 4,4,4,4,4 -ms 2 -q +r -r -tk |
| 19:10.02 | Mayhem | thats a g0 server |
| 19:10.26 | Mayhem | and when I joined, all the bases were filled with buildings, causing my client to lock up instead of joining the game. |
| 19:10.44 | Mayhem | is Chestal the random-map guru? |
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| 19:11.46 | larsl_56k | Mayhem: That should have been fixed in g2. |
| 19:11.57 | Mayhem | so its a know prob? |
| 19:12.01 | larsl_56k | Yeah. |
| 19:12.09 | Mayhem | cool |
| 19:12.30 | larsl_56k | Semi-known, at least. I don't know if it has been mentioned anywhere outside this channel. =) |
| 19:12.57 | Mayhem | I remember this being mentioned, but thought it was pre-g0 |
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| 19:13.58 | Mayhem | unfortunaly a lot of useful info doesn't get outside this channel :( |
| 19:14.10 | Noodleman | ~google xerox keister |
| 19:14.12 | Noodlebot | INDUSTRIAL VIEWS OF GRADUATE EDUCATION IN PHYSICS, http://students.washington.edu/~amiceli/careers/industrial_view_of_phy/industrial_view_of_phy.html |
| 19:14.12 | Noodlebot | WDBJ 7 news at 11 for 11/02/99, http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/WDBJ-7/script_archives/99/1199/110299/110299.11.htm |
| 19:14.12 | Noodlebot | WDBJ 7 news at Noon for 11/03/99, http://scholar.lib.vt.edu/VA-news/WDBJ-7/script_archives/99/1199/110399/110399.n.htm |
| 19:14.20 | gurud00d | anyone up for a round or two of capture the flag? |
| 19:14.39 | gurud00d | nutextonline.com 5155 :) |
| 19:14.54 | larsl_56k | Mayhem: It's in the CVS log too. =) |
| 19:15.16 | larsl_56k | I'm not sure if it made it into the official ChangeLog or not. |
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| 19:48.32 | fiberchunks_ | allo |
| 19:48.43 | fiberchunks_ | heheheh, dad is getting gentoo -- :) |
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| 19:55.42 | Patlabor221 | my dad can barely use windown |
| 19:56.10 | fiberchunks_ | heh, if dad can do it, Patlabor221, so can you ;) |
| 19:56.13 | Noodleman | fiberchunks_: i feel sorry for your dad :-) |
| 19:56.17 | fiberchunks_ | phbbt |
| 19:57.01 | Noodleman | hey, i like gentoo, but compiling everything, and stuff not working is something i don't like |
| 19:57.17 | fiberchunks_ | stuff not working isn't a function of the distro, it's a function of the user ;) |
| 19:57.46 | Noodleman | well, by naturem gentoo has a degree of instability |
| 19:57.53 | fiberchunks_ | untrue |
| 19:58.04 | fiberchunks_ | no more unstable than any binary distro |
| 19:58.24 | Noodleman | using new, untested packages comes with risks |
| 19:58.27 | fiberchunks_ | again, stability lies solely with what configuration options the user chooses |
| 19:58.33 | Noodleman | possible |
| 19:58.37 | fiberchunks_ | new, untested packages? |
| 19:59.05 | Noodleman | they always have the latest releases in the distro, with can cause problems |
| 19:59.29 | fiberchunks_ | the only time you use new untested packages is with the ~x86 flag specified -- otherwise, they use most of the same apps as other distros |
| 19:59.55 | fiberchunks_ | i.e. apache << versions available: stable 1.3.27, ~x86 2.0.4 or something of that nature |
| 20:00.23 | Noodleman | i personally use apache 2 myself :-P |
| 20:00.26 | fiberchunks_ | yah, they _have_ the latest and greatest, but unstable packages are masked, so you must make an effort to install them |
| 20:00.48 | sussudio | ~pig gentoo |
| 20:00.49 | | gentoo is 59% pig! |
| 20:00.49 | fiberchunks_ | like I use all gnome/gtk2 apps, but my core system is from stable |
| 20:00.59 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 20:01.11 | fiberchunks_ | and anything 'critical' is from stable (like apache, mysql, etc) |
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| 20:01.44 | Patlabor221 | fiber you can come over here and install gentoo :) |
| 20:02.01 | fiberchunks_ | gimme a ticket ;) |
| 20:03.45 | Patlabor221 | what you can't drive? |
| 20:04.04 | fiberchunks_ | not to CA, no |
| 20:04.08 | Patlabor221 | whus |
| 20:04.28 | Patlabor221 | I drove to dougs state once |
| 20:04.29 | Noodleman | i agree, i'd have to suicidal to drive in CA |
| 20:04.44 | Patlabor221 | naw, just well armed |
| 20:04.49 | Noodleman | heh |
| 20:05.06 | Patlabor221 | I would recomend H&K USPs they fire well left handed. |
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| 20:05.35 | Patlabor221 | or a good glock of you can afford it. |
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| 20:07.30 | JBDiGriz | That's only in LA, don't judge the rest of CA by the LA freeways! |
| 20:07.43 | Patlabor221 | and the valley |
| 20:07.49 | Patlabor221 | they are freakin insane |
| 20:07.55 | JBDiGriz | It's really Hollywood's fault! |
| 20:08.03 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 20:08.08 | Patlabor221 | west hollywood |
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| 20:08.51 | Noodleman | when ever i see that nick, i think moo moo man :-) |
| 20:09.11 | JBDiGriz | Of course those freakin gun nuts out in Moorpark are always fun to blame! :) |
| 20:09.40 | Patlabor221 | hey are you baggin on Gretta's Guns? |
| 20:09.54 | JBDiGriz | Not within range, I'm not! |
| 20:10.20 | Patlabor221 | ohhh we got range on you buddy, we got range |
| 20:10.33 | JBDiGriz | I got the Marines, HOOYAH! |
| 20:10.46 | Secret_Hamster | oh dear KB is doomed |
| 20:10.51 | Secret_Hamster | oh dear JB is doomed |
| 20:10.54 | Noodleman | i just say that in san francisco, whatever ain't fruit is nuts |
| 20:11.05 | Patlabor221 | they don't get nowhere without the us air farce |
| 20:11.06 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 20:11.15 | JBDiGriz | It's like granola, what's not fruit and nuts is flakes. |
| 20:11.20 | Patlabor221 | we got edwards too |
| 20:11.34 | Patlabor221 | aliens and stuff |
| 20:12.11 | Patlabor221 | you jsut got some whales :) |
| 20:12.26 | JBDiGriz | Lots of whales, really big whales! |
| 20:12.27 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 20:12.41 | JBDiGriz | With large pointy teeth! |
| 20:12.51 | Patlabor221 | we'll send the happy rat out to fight them, thew will destory each other. |
| 20:12.53 | Noodleman | did you know it's against the law to hunt whales in oklahoma's waters? |
| 20:13.04 | Patlabor221 | ok as no waters. |
| 20:13.10 | Noodleman | i know |
| 20:13.14 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 20:13.19 | JBDiGriz | Noodleman: Did you get arrested? |
| 20:13.23 | Patlabor221 | like the beaches in idaho |
| 20:13.23 | Noodleman | but there is a law on the books in OK |
| 20:13.32 | Noodleman | JBDiGriz: no :-P |
| 20:14.20 | Noodleman | you also can't legally set a mousetrap in CA without a hunting license |
| 20:14.25 | Patlabor221 | http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascitystar/news/6090961.htm |
| 20:14.59 | JBDiGriz | Noodleman: I'd like to see the citation for that bit of information. |
| 20:15.10 | Noodleman | i'll look |
| 20:16.04 | JBDiGriz | Sounds like the Berkeley and Hollywood crazies again :) |
| 20:16.19 | fiberchunks_ | saw one about not being able to cross the town square with a duck on your head -- what site was that? |
| 20:17.09 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks: Come on out, and cross downtown LA with a duck on your head, I want to take pictures, and Pat can install Gentoo while your here! |
| 20:17.11 | Noodleman | what are the state laws called in CA? in OR, they're called 'oregon revised statutes' |
| 20:17.37 | Patlabor221 | why the hell can't you pump your own gas in OR? |
| 20:17.42 | fiberchunks_ | heh |
| 20:17.49 | Patlabor221 | do the teens need jobs THAT bad? |
| 20:17.49 | Noodleman | your guess is as good as mine |
| 20:17.54 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 20:18.01 | fiberchunks_ | there are no self-serves in oregon? |
| 20:18.07 | Noodleman | nope, nada |
| 20:18.12 | fiberchunks_ | wow, wild |
| 20:18.14 | sussudio | no. just beavers. |
| 20:18.19 | Patlabor221 | it's against the law |
| 20:18.23 | bryjen | Exploding cell phones |
| 20:18.29 | Noodleman | except for commercial stations, i believe |
| 20:18.39 | Patlabor221 | didn't go to any of those |
| 20:18.50 | JBDiGriz | california codes and statutes |
| 20:18.50 | Noodleman | those are just for trucks |
| 20:18.52 | fiberchunks_ | that is obviously a 'stupid-person' law -- something enacted because of an idiot somewhere in oregon |
| 20:19.02 | Noodleman | probably |
| 20:19.08 | Patlabor221 | its ether that, or they need a lot of low paying jobs |
| 20:19.14 | fiberchunks_ | like the tags on hair-dryers |
| 20:19.20 | fiberchunks_ | stupid people warnings |
| 20:19.31 | JBDiGriz | I thought New Jersey also had a law against self serve gas |
| 20:19.36 | Secret_Hamster | most likely the governer singe his toupee once |
| 20:19.55 | fiberchunks_ | heh, yes, but that's because the nearest gas station is in a toxic waste dump ;) |
| 20:20.07 | JBDiGriz | That's all of New Jersey |
| 20:20.12 | fiberchunks_ | my point ;) |
| 20:20.13 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 20:20.14 | prot-work | huzzah |
| 20:20.49 | JBDiGriz | Noodleman: did you find a citation, or is this just another Internet factoid? |
| 20:20.57 | Noodleman | i'm looking |
| 20:21.48 | fiberchunks_ | http://dumblaws.com/states/states.php?State=California |
| 20:22.09 | fiberchunks_ | no citations of statute -- but I'm sure with a little digging they can be brought up |
| 20:22.36 | Noodleman | http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/waisgate?WAISdocID=1409485120+0+0+0&WAISaction=retrieve , section 1054.2 |
| 20:23.42 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks_: I don't see anything about mousetraps or hunting licenses |
| 20:23.51 | fiberchunks_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:24.00 | Noodleman | haha |
| 20:24.07 | fiberchunks_ | JBDiGriz: didn't say it was there -- just a site I googled for stupid laws |
| 20:25.21 | Patlabor221 | we would drive the ever lovin piss out of them all over oak part, then they passes that law, and we had to keep them in the area of the flying field. |
| 20:25.33 | Patlabor221 | park ! part |
| 20:25.47 | sussudio | it's illegal to bathe in kentucky |
| 20:25.55 | Noodleman | that explains it |
| 20:25.57 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 20:26.06 | JBDiGriz | Noodleman: 1054.2 says that if a license is required, you have to have it in your possession while setting the mousetrap. It doesn't say one is required. |
| 20:26.10 | fiberchunks_ | where's doug -- ask him if he bathed lately |
| 20:26.39 | sussudio | doug never bathes, he smears himself in hogfat and bakes in the sun |
| 20:26.39 | Noodleman | ok, maybe i didn't read it close enough |
| 20:27.13 | Patlabor221 | cap, how do you feel about a VFS for BZflag? |
| 20:27.16 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks_: If sunshine is guaranteed to the masses, I'm calling the police, it's cloudy today! :) |
| 20:27.28 | Patlabor221 | yeah it is a bit isn't it |
| 20:27.44 | Patlabor221 | yesterday was rather drearey |
| 20:27.54 | Patlabor221 | just wish it would get over it and just rain |
| 20:27.58 | fiberchunks_ | # In order for a pickle to officially be considered a pickle, it must bounce. |
| 20:28.07 | prot-work | time for all my coworkers to listen to pink martini |
| 20:28.08 | fiberchunks_ | that is from my state |
| 20:28.18 | Noodleman | haha |
| 20:28.19 | JBDiGriz | It was raining in the morning yesterday, but it was a nice day for wandering around the state fair! |
| 20:28.42 | learnerAtWork | it's been _pouring_ down here in md.. |
| 20:29.24 | fiberchunks_ | JBDiGriz: hey, it's a law -- litigate the state ;) |
| 20:29.37 | Noodleman | good idea |
| 20:29.41 | Noodleman | do a class-action suit |
| 20:29.48 | fiberchunks_ | heh |
| 20:30.00 | JBDiGriz | I might have to find the actual citation, and discover what it really means then! ;) |
| 20:30.44 | Noodleman | ice cream may not be eaten on sundays in oregon |
| 20:31.03 | Noodleman | i'm a criminal, i had some ice cream just this sunday |
| 20:32.35 | *** join/#bzflag ak|ra (~mathias@p50883FBD.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:33.19 | JBDiGriz | Today is celebrate June birthday's around here, cake and ice cream for everyone! |
| 20:33.23 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.33 | fiberchunks_ | massachusetts: North Andover |
| 20:33.33 | fiberchunks_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.41 | Noodleman | huh? |
| 20:33.48 | Noodleman | what the heck is a space gun? |
| 20:33.54 | Noodleman | :-) |
| 20:33.54 | fiberchunks_ | who knows |
| 20:34.04 | learnerAtWork | yummy |
| 20:34.13 | fiberchunks_ | # No one may cross the Boston Common without carrying a shotgun in case of bears. |
| 20:34.17 | JBDiGriz | I'm thinking of the guns from Empire Strikes Back which cleared the way off the planet |
| 20:34.22 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 20:34.43 | fiberchunks_ | # No gorilla is allowed in the back seat of any car |
| 20:35.04 | JBDiGriz | Make sure Patlabor221 is sitting in front in Mass. |
| 20:35.16 | Noodleman | heh |
| 20:36.17 | fiberchunks_ | georgia: * It is illegal for a chicken to cross the road. << how do they answer the riddle? |
| 20:36.26 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 20:37.00 | Patlabor221 | I've only been to NYC and NJ on the east coast |
| 20:37.01 | JBDiGriz | Why does the chicken cross the road? (GA answer) They don't! |
| 20:37.03 | fiberchunks_ | alaska! :# It is considered an offense to push a live moose out of a moving airplane. |
| 20:37.04 | Noodleman | picking one's nose on the sabbath is illegal in israel |
| 20:37.23 | fiberchunks_ | and, coincidentally: * It is considered an offense to feed alcoholic beverages to a moose. |
| 20:37.47 | Patlabor221 | probably best for the moose |
| 20:37.54 | bryjen | moose aboose |
| 20:37.55 | Patlabor221 | cap, did you see my question? |
| 20:38.03 | fiberchunks_ | * One may not roam the city with a bow and arrows. |
| 20:38.04 | JBDiGriz | How about a chocolate mousse? |
| 20:38.15 | JBDiGriz | Only shotguns! |
| 20:38.19 | fiberchunks_ | prob a law about that too |
| 20:38.32 | fiberchunks_ | one more: # While it is legal to shoot bears, waking a sleeping bear for the purpose of taking a photograph is prohibited. |
| 20:39.19 | JBDiGriz | I really think that law needs to be repealed, the law can't punish anyone who would wake a sleeping bear any worse than they already are. |
| 20:39.26 | fiberchunks_ | heh |
| 20:41.17 | Patlabor221 | oooo I want to make one of these |
| 20:41.18 | Patlabor221 | http://8ball.federated.com/ |
| 20:41.28 | fiberchunks_ | Hawthahorne |
| 20:41.28 | fiberchunks_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.44 | JBDiGriz | Patlabor221: I didn't get a legible answer from the video. |
| 20:44.56 | Patlabor221 | yeah seems to be down :( |
| 20:45.00 | fiberchunks_ | ahahahaha, RI: # Any marriage where either of the parties is an idiot or lunatic is null and void. -SECTION 11-40-1 |
| 20:45.13 | Patlabor221 | that should be federal |
| 20:45.17 | JBDiGriz | fiberchunks_: Did you used to be married? |
| 20:45.17 | fiberchunks_ | lol |
| 20:45.39 | fiberchunks_ | no, thankfully, though if I were, I would've done it in RI -- auto null and void |
| 20:46.07 | learnerAtWork | I see that EVERYONE is hard at work for a Friday... hehehehehehe |
| 20:46.08 | Mayhem | any ducati admins around? |
| 20:46.08 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-62-11-18-67.dialup.tiscali.it) |
| 20:46.15 | JBDiGriz | There are people who believe that getting married is proof of idiocy and/or lunacy |
| 20:46.28 | learnerAtWork | lol, jb |
| 20:46.34 | fiberchunks_ | right |
| 20:47.41 | Patlabor221 | mine was |
| 20:48.41 | fiberchunks_ | # It is a capital offense to inadvertently kill someone while attempting suicide. |
| 20:48.48 | prot-work | but i'm about to stop that |
| 20:49.02 | Patlabor221 | good cus I have questions |
| 20:53.07 | fiberchunks_ | this should be federal as well: * It illegal for a woman to drive a car unless her husband is waving a flag in front of it. |
| 20:54.07 | larsl_56k | Who makes those laws? Do they make a new law after every weird accident? |
| 20:55.16 | fiberchunks_ | who knows -- idiot laws made for idiot people by idiot people, apparently -- wait for the next one - it's a whopper |
| 20:55.36 | larsl_56k | Mmm, Whopper. |
| 20:55.39 | fiberchunks_ | Law: The value of Pi is 3.2, and not 3.1415. |
| 20:55.39 | fiberchunks_ | Country: USA |
| 20:55.39 | fiberchunks_ | State: Indiana |
| 20:55.39 | fiberchunks_ | Citation: *Not an actual law* |
| 20:55.39 | fiberchunks_ | Was proposed in the 1897 session of the Indiana General Assembly. Engrossed Bill No. 246. The bill was passed in the house of representatives, but it was indefinately postponed in the Senate. That status remains today. |
| 20:55.59 | larsl_56k | What do circles look like in Indiana? |
| 20:56.02 | fiberchunks_ | hehe |
| 20:56.03 | *** join/#bzflag Chikorita (Chikorita@AC952BE1.ipt.aol.com) |
| 20:56.05 | Mayhem | silly, should round down to 3.1 |
| 20:56.09 | Chikorita | ooh |
| 20:56.12 | Mayhem | woot, chiko has entered the building |
| 20:56.13 | Chikorita | i made it |
| 20:56.19 | Chikorita | yay |
| 20:56.23 | bryjen | Lots of them are realllly old. The just never get taken off the books. |
| 20:56.35 | Chikorita | ny am i still typing "n" in front of all mee sentences? |
| 20:56.42 | Chikorita | lol |
| 20:56.51 | larsl_56k | There were more idiot people in the 19th century? |
| 20:57.03 | sussudio | yes, they founded AOL |
| 20:57.33 | sussudio | it was "America On Laudanum" at the time |
| 20:57.37 | Chikorita | wow lottsa peeps here , so dis iz where all da conspiracies get started eh? LoL |
| 20:57.58 | Chikorita | AOHell .. |
| 20:58.14 | Chikorita | im still using AOHell 4.0 |
| 20:58.15 | learnerAtWork | OOoohhh...... :) |
| 20:58.22 | learnerAtWork | look who I see! :) |
| 20:58.22 | Chikorita | nhi Learner!! |
| 20:58.32 | Mayhem | nhahahaha |
| 20:58.32 | Chikorita | i c u 2 ;) |
| 20:58.35 | learnerAtWork | Hi Chika! |
| 20:59.11 | Chikorita | i had to paste dat "/join #bzflag" thing in twice ta get in |
| 20:59.14 | sussudio | ~eat Mayhem |
| 20:59.16 | | ACTION eats Mayhem and falls over dead |
| 20:59.17 | JBDiGriz | quick, hide the good stuff! |
| 20:59.24 | Chikorita | nlol |
| 20:59.30 | larsl_56k | ~x du en i had to paste dat "/join #bzflag" thing in twice ta get in' |
| 20:59.39 | sussudio | i thought we had an *.aol.com ban from back in the LT D. days |
| 20:59.41 | Chikorita | no apologizes neccessary :) |
| 20:59.44 | larsl_56k | No dutch translation in ibot? |
| 20:59.47 | learnerAtWork | hehe, the bz "n" infection .. |
| 20:59.55 | JBDiGriz | larsl_56k: I think you killed ibot |
| 21:00.04 | learnerAtWork | ~d |
| 21:00.08 | Chikorita | nlol learner yup |
| 21:00.11 | Chikorita | ndang |
| 21:00.12 | sussudio | ,pig |
| 21:00.23 | learnerAtWork | I bot's not dead.. |
| 21:00.37 | Mayhem | he's just recovering... |
| 21:00.45 | Chikorita | wut iz dat stuff?^^^^ |
| 21:00.50 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 21:00.51 | larsl_56k | ~glasstowers |
| 21:00.51 | | The server at glasstowers.homelinux.net will be back in August. |
| 21:00.53 | Mayhem | that is the people on ducati |
| 21:01.15 | learnerAtWork | ~Chikorita |
| 21:01.33 | Mayhem | Forgot to tell you Chika, on IRC you *have* to spell things correctly, otherwise you get kicked off |
| 21:01.35 | Chikorita | no eat mee |
| 21:01.36 | learnerAtWork | ibot: Chikorita |
| 21:01.36 | | pig is probably US Plus! |
| 21:01.45 | Mayhem | :) |
| 21:01.51 | Chikorita | ooH |
| 21:01.54 | learnerAtWork | lol, Chika |
| 21:01.56 | learnerAtWork | ibot: ?? |
| 21:01.56 | | learnerAtWork: I wish you would RTFM. |
| 21:02.04 | learnerAtWork | bite me, ibot |
| 21:02.07 | prot-work | yay for US Plus |
| 21:02.08 | Chikorita | ok i spell very carfully now |
| 21:02.24 | Chikorita | ni go get me dictionary just on case |
| 21:02.27 | Chikorita | in* |
| 21:02.49 | learnerAtWork | ~dict Chikorita |
| 21:02.59 | learnerAtWork | hrm |
| 21:03.02 | Chikorita | uh oh |
| 21:03.08 | learnerAtWork | ibot, Chikorita is cool |
| 21:03.08 | | ...but chikorita is already something else... |
| 21:03.18 | learnerAtWork | really? .. |
| 21:03.28 | larsl_56k | ~literal chikortia |
| 21:03.30 | larsl_56k | ~literal chikorita |
| 21:03.31 | | chikorita is <reply> see pig |
| 21:03.38 | learnerAtWork | ooh.. grr |
| 21:03.38 | larsl_56k | Hum. |
| 21:03.45 | learnerAtWork | ibot: chikorita is cool |
| 21:03.46 | | ...but chikorita is already something else... |
| 21:03.48 | Chikorita | thats not nice :( |
| 21:03.52 | learnerAtWork | ibot: no, chikorita is cool |
| 21:03.52 | | okay, learnerAtWork |
| 21:03.54 | larsl_56k | ibot, forget chikorita |
| 21:04.00 | learnerAtWork | ack! |
| 21:04.01 | larsl_56k | Ops, sorry. |
| 21:04.09 | Patlabor221 | if we kicked for mispellings, how am I an op? |
| 21:04.14 | Chikorita | nwhat did i do ? i just got here :( |
| 21:04.16 | prot-work | hah |
| 21:04.20 | fiberchunks_ | Patlabor221: heh |
| 21:04.37 | *** join/#bzflag chatelaine (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 21:04.38 | *** kick/#bzflag [Mayhem!~jeffm@208.48.199.214] by Patlabor221 (it's funner when I do it :)) |
| 21:04.45 | fiberchunks_ | lol |
| 21:04.54 | *** join/#bzflag Mayhem (~Mayhem@dsl-217-155-141-174.zen.co.uk) |
| 21:04.57 | Patlabor221 | wow no auto join? |
| 21:04.59 | learnerAtWork | lol |
| 21:05.05 | Mayhem | nope, I don't think that was funnier... |
| 21:05.10 | Patlabor221 | I did |
| 21:05.16 | Mayhem | on now :) |
| 21:05.18 | Patlabor221 | others did :) |
| 21:05.32 | Mayhem | backstabbing b*stards... |
| 21:05.34 | Patlabor221 | hell I lauged my ass off |
| 21:05.41 | fiberchunks_ | 'do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger' |
| 21:05.47 | Mayhem | you are easily amused... ;) |
| 21:06.06 | Chikorita | lol |
| 21:06.11 | Mayhem | do you have a 'smite' key on you keyboard? |
| 21:06.18 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:06.24 | fiberchunks_ | big red button |
| 21:06.29 | Patlabor221 | no it's blue |
| 21:06.39 | fiberchunks_ | :) |
| 21:06.41 | Chikorita | how do u do those action commands? |
| 21:06.44 | sussudio | <drazi mode> green! </drazi mode> |
| 21:06.48 | Chikorita | im new to irc :P |
| 21:06.51 | fiberchunks_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.54 | Patlabor221 | ohh type /me then stuff |
| 21:06.59 | Chikorita | o okies thnx |
| 21:07.16 | fiberchunks_ | lo bzg |
| 21:07.19 | JBDiGriz | do not meddel in the affairs of wizards, it makes them soggy and hard to light! |
| 21:07.34 | Mayhem | wow, a spork! |
| 21:07.35 | Chikorita | o neat i did something |
| 21:07.37 | Patlabor221 | I prefer the dragon one |
| 21:07.56 | Chikorita | hi bzg :) |
| 21:08.00 | Patlabor221 | do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with catsoup. |
| 21:08.07 | fiberchunks_ | heh |
| 21:08.18 | Chikorita | i didnt know chatelaone was bzg |
| 21:08.19 | chatelaine | hello Chik :-) |
| 21:08.20 | fiberchunks_ | when does the spork patent run out? |
| 21:08.34 | Mayhem | ooh, gif patent has run out... |
| 21:08.39 | fiberchunks_ | yup |
| 21:08.47 | Mayhem | not that I use gifs anyway... |
| 21:08.49 | Chestal | lzw, yes |
| 21:08.55 | learnerAtWork | I hear it expires on Sunday with gif's compression patent.. :) |
| 21:08.56 | Chestal | guess I can now put my own lzw implementation on my web page, hurrah :-) |
| 21:08.58 | Mayhem | ~png |
| 21:09.03 | larsl_56k | I think it's one more year in Europe. |
| 21:09.05 | Patlabor221 | so does that make them not evil anymore? |
| 21:09.07 | sussudio | Chestal : you can next year |
| 21:09.13 | Mayhem | they are still evil... |
| 21:09.14 | fiberchunks_ | no, it doesn't :) |
| 21:09.27 | Chestal | I don't even understand how lzw can be patented in Germany anyway |
| 21:09.33 | Chestal | it's a software patent after all |
| 21:09.43 | larsl_56k | Yeah, I don't understand that either. |
| 21:10.05 | fiberchunks_ | oooo, does that mean that 'one-click' (C) shopping exists in germany besides amazon? |
| 21:10.24 | Chestal | that thing is not patent worthy anyway |
| 21:10.25 | *** part/#bzflag chatelaine (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 21:10.26 | Patlabor221 | didn't they patent the color orange too? |
| 21:10.32 | sussudio | i patented one-kick hurting |
| 21:10.37 | Chestal | there are rules for patents, no idea why they are not obeyed |
| 21:10.42 | fiberchunks_ | lol, wouldn't surprise me |
| 21:10.45 | sussudio | i used it on jeff bezos |
| 21:10.45 | Patlabor221 | money |
| 21:10.47 | Chikorita | is it possible to send PM here? |
| 21:10.47 | fiberchunks_ | money |
| 21:10.57 | fiberchunks_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:10.58 | Mayhem | do /msg person message |
| 21:10.59 | Patlabor221 | yes do a /msg there name |
| 21:11.02 | learnerAtWork | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:11.04 | sussudio | Chikorita : yes you type /msg fiberchunks LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL |
| 21:11.07 | Chikorita | o okies thnx |
| 21:11.10 | Mayhem | wow, echo |
| 21:11.14 | fiberchunks_ | I think that's covered ;) |
| 21:11.27 | Mayhem | aren't we just super-helpful |
| 21:11.40 | sussudio | learnerAtWork : ROTFLAC ASL |
| 21:11.41 | Chestal | you coudl also do "/query person" when you want to do more than one msg :-) |
| 21:11.43 | Chikorita | haha sussudio |
| 21:11.58 | Chikorita | wait is that sussi? |
| 21:12.05 | Mayhem | Chestal has to be different... :p |
| 21:12.13 | Chikorita | or some one making fun of him ? |
| 21:12.15 | learnerAtWork | sussudio: "AC ASL" ?? :) |
| 21:12.15 | Chestal | Mayhem: just because I'm slow |
| 21:12.16 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 21:12.22 | Patlabor221 | or just double click there name |
| 21:12.22 | Chestal | hi bzg |
| 21:12.25 | Patlabor221 | and that will open a window |
| 21:12.28 | Chikorita | wb bzg |
| 21:12.31 | Patlabor221 | since you are using MIRC |
| 21:12.40 | prot-work | hmm |
| 21:12.44 | sussudio | ~seen sussi |
| 21:12.44 | | sussi <~sussi@217-68-182-105.cable.primacom.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 82d 3h 39m 31s ago, saying: 'hi'. |
| 21:12.45 | prot-work | 1.8 has an src/ui directory |
| 21:12.50 | prot-work | is that desireable? :} |
| 21:13.01 | Patlabor221 | does it do anyting? |
| 21:13.18 | Patlabor221 | cap what do you think about a VFS? |
| 21:13.38 | prot-work | Patlabor221: it'd be cool to have it read .tar.gz's for the CMS packages ;-) |
| 21:13.48 | Patlabor221 | I am thinking for all of them |
| 21:14.00 | Patlabor221 | or zip, or somethin |
| 21:14.14 | Patlabor221 | and then pull from files if they exist outside the file |
| 21:15.19 | Patlabor221 | many of my ideas are going to require files to be loaded a times other the start up, so it seems that one thing for a clean up would be to just make it pull from a better media system |
| 21:15.28 | Patlabor221 | and that would be a "biteable" cunk |
| 21:18.17 | Chestal | hmm, sf CVS still has issues |
| 21:18.17 | prot-work | if you do a vfs, you should make it so that you can request an istream or ostream and it returns one |
| 21:18.26 | prot-work | where reading/writing it "just works" |
| 21:18.29 | Patlabor221 | it's going to till august they say |
| 21:18.42 | Chestal | hmm, actually it's my shell now |
| 21:18.59 | prot-work | Patlabor221: developer cvs has been having some issues lately |
| 21:19.13 | Patlabor221 | they said it may too, as they move and ballance stuff |
| 21:19.23 | Chestal | took me several hours today to get my great commit through |
| 21:19.37 | Patlabor221 | cap, yeah like puting in a BZFile and BZDir that allways just give you a handle or stream or what ever |
| 21:19.40 | Patlabor221 | no mater what OS |
| 21:19.55 | prot-work | Chestal: the typo one? :) |
| 21:20.01 | Chestal | prot-work: yep:-) |
| 21:20.11 | prot-work | that commit was impressive |
| 21:20.24 | Chestal | my first post-g2 committ, I'm quite proud of it |
| 21:21.09 | Patlabor221 | cap how do you feel about the "load it the first time you use it" method that texturemanager uses? |
| 21:21.30 | learnerAtWork | cap: did you test out your patch last night? |
| 21:21.42 | learnerAtWork | cap: the koth one.. |
| 21:22.08 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: yeah, seems to work |
| 21:22.25 | prot-work | Patlabor221: it works for some things, but we should also have a 'load and buffer' option |
| 21:22.38 | Patlabor221 | like a force load |
| 21:22.41 | prot-work | yeah |
| 21:22.44 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 21:22.53 | prot-work | and there should be a way for unused resources in the buffer to expire unless forced |
| 21:22.57 | Patlabor221 | force load the things you know are gonna use |
| 21:23.20 | Patlabor221 | yeah I had an idea for that in textureman |
| 21:25.04 | learnerAtWork | cap: is it commited yet or still sitting as a patch -- I want to give it a try later tonight |
| 21:25.30 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: still sitting as a patch - we're waiting to really break protocol until the list server knows we're at an incompatible version |
| 21:25.46 | learnerAtWork | ah yeah |
| 21:25.56 | prot-work | we should get a big KotH game going tonight :) |
| 21:26.06 | learnerAtWork | hehe, that *would* be cool |
| 21:26.19 | prot-work | on...the decks! =) |
| 21:26.22 | JBDiGriz | I just built enet on the mac. There are times that configure is really a good idea. |
| 21:27.49 | prot-work | JBDiGriz: if we go with enet, we'll probably end up pulling the sources into bz's tree |
| 21:27.58 | prot-work | and integrating it into our current build system |
| 21:28.56 | JBDiGriz | That looks like it makes the most sense. I'm going to play with it this weekend on my network test machines. |
| 21:29.05 | prot-work | i've played with it a little |
| 21:29.10 | prot-work | the channels feature is -really- nifty |
| 21:29.39 | prot-work | there are some features we'd need to add to it eventually, like proxying and IPv6 :) |
| 21:29.39 | JBDiGriz | How "chatty" is it? |
| 21:29.50 | prot-work | what do you mean? overhead? |
| 21:30.09 | JBDiGriz | Additional messages/overhead for transmitting data |
| 21:30.22 | prot-work | in general its very slim |
| 21:30.40 | prot-work | plus the reliable messaging improves a lot on tcp's oversend/slowdown thingy |
| 21:31.32 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 21:38.51 | ak|ra | hi bzgirl |
| 21:39.17 | bzgirl | hello akira |
| 21:39.52 | JBDiGriz | bzgirl: Do you always have that affect on people? |
| 21:40.00 | bzgirl | hello JB |
| 21:40.10 | bzgirl | hmm |
| 21:40.13 | bzgirl | didnt work |
| 21:40.24 | prot-work | =) |
| 21:40.37 | JBDiGriz | I'm still here, I must be immune. |
| 21:40.48 | sussudio | or you already left but didnt notice |
| 21:41.13 | JBDiGriz | How can you be two places at once when you're not anywhere at all? |
| 21:41.20 | sussudio | JBDiGriz No such nick/channel |
| 21:41.33 | Patlabor221 | yay the tank is now manifold |
| 21:41.44 | Patlabor221 | the bottom of the turret was jacked |
| 21:42.11 | sussudio | Patlabor221 : you're going to get sued for that by the militant lesbians of america. they'll demand you'll call it womanifold |
| 21:42.43 | Patlabor221 | it'll be woomanfold when I make it look better |
| 21:43.08 | Chikorita | womanfold? |
| 21:43.22 | Patlabor221 | joke on manifold |
| 21:43.24 | JBDiGriz | Careful there chika, this is a family channel. |
| 21:43.26 | Chikorita | oh |
| 21:43.54 | Chikorita | lol umm ok . did i something obscene? |
| 21:44.14 | Chikorita | what does that mean? |
| 21:44.20 | sussudio | ... |
| 21:44.23 | Mayhem | kids can be so mean... |
| 21:44.33 | Patlabor221 | sussudio is just wierd :) |
| 21:44.43 | Chikorita | kids... |
| 21:44.48 | sussudio | ~spell wierd |
| 21:44.50 | | possible spellings for wierd: weird weirdo weed wider wired word Wed wed Wier Ward vied ward we'd wield wide Waiter Weider waiter weedy weirds weired whiter wooed wordy weirder weirdie weirs Wier's Wit weir wet wit wire wifed wiled wined wiped wised wived winer wiper wirer wiser witter wried |
| 21:45.09 | sussudio | >< cartman |
| 21:45.19 | Patlabor221 | see |
| 21:45.42 | JBDiGriz | Patlabor221: you're right, wived is an alternate spelling for weird! |
| 21:46.05 | sussudio | =:-B |
| 21:46.06 | bzgirl | Chikorita: sussudio sits around watching south park all day, in his purple sweat pants and megadeath t-shirt |
| 21:46.18 | Patlabor221 | don't forget the mullet |
| 21:46.21 | sussudio | they're not purple, they're blue :-P |
| 21:46.24 | bzgirl | of course |
| 21:46.26 | JBDiGriz | bzgirl: Post that picture on centrum |
| 21:46.55 | learnerAtWork | omg, someone please post that.. :) |
| 21:47.02 | sussudio | my youthanasia shirt is in the laundry too :-| |
| 21:47.15 | JBDiGriz | sussudio: You do laundry? |
| 21:47.33 | sussudio | JBDiGriz : yes, unlike kentucky we have these newfangled things called washing-machines |
| 21:47.35 | Patlabor221 | least he has 2 shirts |
| 21:47.37 | Chikorita | LoL bzgirl |
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| 21:48.26 | JBDiGriz | sussudio: I've never been to Kentucky, so I'll take your word for it. |
| 21:48.29 | Chikorita | sussudio you really are weird , emkayy . so respect mah authorita ;) |
| 21:48.42 | sussudio | that's in. no beefy logs for you. |
| 21:48.51 | Chikorita | heehe thats a little south park joke ;) |
| 21:48.53 | JBDiGriz | Tupone: did you get the definition of SWAG? |
| 21:49.00 | Tupone | No |
| 21:49.02 | learnerAtWork | lol, chika |
| 21:49.08 | Tupone | What does it mean |
| 21:49.15 | JBDiGriz | Simple Wild Ass Guess |
| 21:49.24 | Tupone | ~swag |
| 21:49.37 | Tupone | tanx |
| 21:49.44 | JBDiGriz | Useful term for scheduling projects |
| 21:50.12 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: lol! |
| 21:51.00 | Mayhem | kids *are* be so mean... |
| 21:51.21 | Patlabor221 | most adults are too |
| 21:51.28 | Mayhem | point |
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| 21:53.42 | Chikorita | ok well i gtg ... |
| 21:53.57 | Chikorita | its nice to see u guyz :) |
| 21:53.57 | Mayhem | cya Chiko |
| 21:54.02 | Mayhem | come back soon :) |
| 21:54.07 | Patlabor221 | bye |
| 21:54.13 | Chikorita | k i will |
| 21:58.49 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:00.24 | sussudio | teh sux0r? |
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| 22:05.30 | sussudio | bzflag-g2-1 is in sid now |
| 22:08.20 | sussudio | db db db |
| 22:08.37 | sussudio | ~poke learnerAtWork |
| 22:08.56 | learnerAtWork | sussudio is bored? :) |
| 22:09.48 | JBDiGriz | sussudio: Why don't you go get the latest Harry Potter, and let us know what happens? |
| 22:10.02 | sussudio | harry potter is ghei |
| 22:12.51 | Patlabor221 | I didn't think he was indian. |
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| 22:17.26 | sussudio | harry potter is an anagram of try rope hater |
| 22:17.45 | sussudio | [dmp] is an anagram of p[d]m |
| 22:18.49 | Patlabor221 | I hear guar is doing the soundtrack for the next movie, you should like it. |
| 22:19.03 | sussudio | ~guar |
| 22:27.09 | sussudio | ~google for trancendental bunnies |
| 22:27.11 | Noodlebot | NIGHT OWL MK. II -- Philosophy/Religion (Reply #98k), http://www.bakkster.com/r_rel98k.htm |
| 22:27.11 | Noodlebot | NIGHT OWL MK. II -- Philosophy/Religion (Reply #98i), http://www.bakkster.com/r_rel98i.htm |
| 22:27.11 | Noodlebot | 1233 ABC Newcastle Music Awards - Electronica ยป ABC Newcastle ... , http://www.abc.net.au/newcastle/stories/s589301.htm |
| 22:27.27 | sussudio | bad Noodlebot |
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| 22:40.28 | prot-work | wow |
| 22:40.33 | prot-work | everyone else at the office has abandoned me |
| 22:40.50 | sussudio | just you and your stapler |
| 22:40.58 | prot-work | yep |
| 22:48.16 | mmu_man | how do you "print" an mp3 ?? |
| 22:48.32 | mmu_man | or do you print your playlists ? |
| 22:56.13 | prot-work | the office uses lpr queuing for mp3 spooling |
| 22:57.11 | prot-work | erg |
| 22:57.23 | prot-work | i just realized i committed your beos stuff without first making you fix the formatting |
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| 23:01.43 | mmu_man | eh, sorry |
| 23:02.36 | mmu_man | I always try to follow the surrounding formatting, but I work on so many projects, it's not always easy to switch indent contexts :) |
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| 23:03.22 | prot-work | mmu_man: well, its all formatted like 1.8 |
| 23:03.24 | [dmp] | remco_ / bzgirl: i didnt mean to offend you guys. |
| 23:03.33 | remco_ | no problem |
| 23:03.45 | remco_ | it was a bit incovenient anyway. the text scrolled away |
| 23:03.48 | mmu_man | prot-work hehe, well it derives from my work on 1.8, so |
| 23:03.53 | bzgirl | you could silence us :) |
| 23:04.19 | remco_ | I think I could use a beer |
| 23:04.25 | [dmp] | bzgirl: i didnt mean anything by it.. I do it mysrlf. |
| 23:05.04 | [dmp] | actually i was following you talk, i might learn something :-) |
| 23:05.17 | bzgirl | :) |
| 23:05.42 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: (mostly) fix 1.8ish formatting in BeOS stuff |
| 23:06.06 | mmu_man | hehe |
| 23:06.28 | mmu_man | prot-work hope that won't happen again with 1.7 as HEAD :p |
| 23:06.57 | prot-work | mmu_man: well - i'm having to do this sort of thing a lot as i pull code from 1.8 :P |
| 23:07.06 | prot-work | like all the bzdb stuff i'm working on at the moment |
| 23:07.07 | mmu_man | eh |
| 23:07.31 | mmu_man | don't you have an indent rule ? "erf forget that, indent isn't supposed to work on C++ |
| 23:07.36 | mmu_man | which is a shame :-( |
| 23:08.50 | prot-work | well, i think i'm gonna head home |
| 23:08.58 | mmu_man | see ya |
| 23:09.02 | mmu_man | gonna go zzz |
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| 23:30.51 | CIA | commit by timriker: debian stuff |
| 23:32.33 | TimRiker | ~xmission |
| 23:32.49 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 23:33.07 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery bzflag.hashmark.net:18200 |
| 23:33.26 | TimRiker | ohh. playing as root. |
| 23:34.41 | Noodleman | as steve irwin would say, danger, danger, danger! |
| 23:35.13 | mmu_man | (there are no other users in BeOS anyway =) |
| 23:35.28 | mmu_man | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.28 | mmu_man | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:35.37 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 23:36.17 | TimRiker | what shows in bzflag? |
| 23:39.36 | mmu_man | I'll tell ya when I am able to connect to a remote server |
| 23:39.49 | mmu_man | or does the local server say this in the logs ? |
| 23:40.26 | TimRiker | when you connect in the client it will show in the () |
| 23:40.33 | TimRiker | on the scoreboard... |
| 23:41.23 | TimRiker | ~nslookup xmission.bzflag.org |
| 23:42.40 | TimRiker | ~xmission |
| 23:43.29 | TimRiker | ~xmission |
| 23:44.11 | mmu_man | Player plop [0] UDP link requested, remote 127.0.0.1:17200 |
| 23:44.33 | TimRiker | mmu_man: that's not far enough.... |
| 23:44.58 | TimRiker | you need to look in the client at the scoreboard display. |
| 23:44.59 | mmu_man | well it often crash there |
| 23:45.36 | TimRiker | ah |
| 23:45.41 | mmu_man | where is that ? |
| 23:46.09 | mmu_man | where is that ?t Run |
| 23:46.18 | mmu_man | erf |
| 23:49.25 | mmu_man | Run |
| 23:50.50 | mmu_man | sorry, bad interaction |
| 23:51.05 | mmu_man | TimRiker on connection it says revol@patrick.lan |
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| 23:56.56 | TimRiker | cool. |
