| 00:00.07 | Patlabor221 | I watched it both ways, and I must give props to the english voice actors, they did a good job, I like the dub better |
| 00:00.08 | scanline | ah |
| 00:00.12 | captain_proton | scanline: bring wasabi with you ;-) |
| 00:00.18 | Patlabor221 | they adlibed some of the stuff and it comes off better |
| 00:00.20 | scanline | captain_proton: well, them iBooks have a TV output... |
| 00:00.32 | Patlabor221 | cap, I put the music up in bfoj if you wish it. |
| 00:00.34 | scanline | captain_proton: oh yeah, and a really long cat5 to navi? :) |
| 00:00.46 | captain_proton | scanline: -reeealy long- |
| 00:02.33 | scanline | If only SVG was more widespread.. it would be perfect for those pie charts |
| 00:02.35 | bryjen | copper's only good for 100 meters or so. better get some fiber. |
| 00:02.43 | bryjen | ;) |
| 00:02.54 | captain_proton | scanline: !!!!!!!!! |
| 00:02.58 | captain_proton | he's got menu items! |
| 00:03.08 | scanline | huh? |
| 00:03.14 | scanline | whatchew talkin bout cap'n? |
| 00:03.16 | captain_proton | bryjen: well you can drive copper to 100m, but with repeaters it would work |
| 00:03.21 | captain_proton | scanline: that game thing! |
| 00:03.29 | scanline | hm... shadow conflict? |
| 00:03.35 | captain_proton | yah! |
| 00:08.31 | scanline | wow... |
| 00:08.40 | scanline | but you can't select them yet :) |
| 00:09.16 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 00:10.08 | captain_proton | but it does show that he can render a font |
| 00:21.53 | *** part/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@81.68.136.24) |
| 00:37.58 | Nidhoggr | w00 once larsl makes bzadmin take commands from command line, I can have my log monitor log on and boot offensive names. :) |
| 00:38.20 | Nidhoggr | and other detectable badness. |
| 00:42.17 | *** join/#bzflag mikep (~mikep@adsl-68-73-117-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 00:42.34 | mikep | Hey BZG |
| 00:42.49 | bzgirl | hi |
| 00:45.37 | Nidhoggr | hi merry |
| 00:45.49 | Nidhoggr | rehi capt. |
| 00:47.22 | Merry | Hi Nidhoggr |
| 00:47.36 | Nidhoggr | been a long 10 hours at work. |
| 00:47.44 | Nidhoggr | almost time to go home. |
| 00:47.46 | Merry | Nidhoggr?? This is Merry |
| 00:47.52 | Nidhoggr | yes, I know. |
| 00:47.53 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 00:48.13 | Nidhoggr | I figured that out because you are on the same IP number that legolas was earlier. |
| 00:48.20 | Merry | Oh. |
| 00:49.05 | Patlabor221 | do you guys share a computer, or each have your own? |
| 00:49.09 | Nidhoggr | sharp as a hammer ;) |
| 00:49.22 | Merry | Wha?!?!? |
| 00:49.34 | Patlabor221 | you and lego? |
| 00:49.42 | Merry | Everyone keeps talking to me and I have no idea what ur talking about@ |
| 00:49.44 | Merry | ! |
| 00:49.47 | Merry | I'm Merry! |
| 00:49.52 | Patlabor221 | yes I know |
| 00:49.53 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 00:49.55 | Nidhoggr | ignore me. I'm being silly. |
| 00:50.11 | Patlabor221 | its says merry right next to your name |
| 00:50.19 | Merry | O.K. Hi Pat |
| 00:50.22 | Patlabor221 | well as your name even :) |
| 00:50.26 | bzgirl | Merry: do you have your own computer? |
| 00:50.38 | bzgirl | Merry: or do you share it with legolas? |
| 00:50.44 | Nidhoggr | me, too, pat. |
| 00:50.50 | Merry | I don't share. |
| 00:51.13 | Nidhoggr | until I get my PC fixed, I might have to share scipio's computer to play bzflag. :( |
| 00:51.16 | Merry | We have to computers behind a firewall |
| 00:51.29 | Patlabor221 | ahh, as it should be |
| 00:52.44 | Merry | How do you that star thing? |
| 00:52.57 | Patlabor221 | ohh type /me then something |
| 00:53.26 | Merry | HOw do you DO That?!?!?! |
| 00:53.31 | bzgirl | heh |
| 00:53.41 | bzgirl | Merry: type /me laughs |
| 00:53.41 | Merry | Please tell |
| 00:53.44 | Merry | ! |
| 00:53.44 | Patlabor221 | type /me then what you want to do |
| 00:53.46 | Nidhoggr | merry... type /me laughs on a line by itself. |
| 00:54.04 | Merry | nahh |
| 00:54.04 | Nidhoggr | w0000!~ |
| 00:54.05 | bzgirl | :) |
| 00:54.07 | Merry | cool |
| 00:55.59 | Patlabor221 | what did you try to do? |
| 00:56.06 | Nidhoggr | are you typing it correctly? it should be nickserv |
| 00:56.08 | Merry | change my password. |
| 00:56.12 | Merry | yes |
| 00:56.16 | Nidhoggr | no spaces |
| 00:56.22 | Merry | oh |
| 00:56.24 | Nidhoggr | and no E at the end |
| 00:56.25 | Patlabor221 | it's just nickserv |
| 00:56.43 | captain_proton | .....amazing |
| 00:56.49 | Patlabor221 | how was it not taken? |
| 00:56.54 | captain_proton | derv & spiff haven't felt the need to post to the meeting-thread-thingy |
| 00:57.09 | Patlabor221 | by the godess why? |
| 00:57.16 | Nidhoggr | okie... I'm going to drive home. see ya'll later. |
| 00:57.17 | Nidhoggr | & |
| 00:57.24 | bzgirl | cu |
| 00:57.43 | bryjen | Eep. There's a space in an URL in the topic. Can just anyone change it? |
| 00:58.01 | Patlabor221 | put in a %20 |
| 00:58.09 | bryjen | Its a typo |
| 00:58.16 | Patlabor221 | where? |
| 00:58.27 | bryjen | WorkInProgr ess |
| 00:58.42 | captain_proton | bryjen: i think you may have accidentally focused & typed into your topic bar |
| 00:58.48 | captain_proton | --- Topic for #bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || g2 released 2003-06-17 || Subversive planning for the next release http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/WorkInProgress || everyone please debug playerid changes for a while || anoncvs sucks, so here are some snapshots: http://sfsnap.babylonia.flatirons.org/ |
| 00:59.24 | bryjen | Errrr, ok |
| 00:59.47 | bryjen | sure _looks_ like a space here |
| 01:00.24 | bryjen | I can click on it to edit the topic and the space goes away. Faulty Font Rendering I guess :( |
| 01:00.56 | Merry | Who's all talking here? |
| 01:01.04 | captain_proton | Merry: because i'm getting a little hungry |
| 01:01.11 | Merry | Ahh |
| 01:01.27 | Merry | Who's playing BZFlag? |
| 01:01.47 | Merry | Hello?!?! |
| 01:01.59 | scanline | I'm playing BZFlag... in my mind! |
| 01:02.08 | Patlabor221 | O |
| 01:02.10 | Merry | lol |
| 01:02.17 | Patlabor221 | I'm playing my mind in bzflag |
| 01:02.27 | scanline | hmm... |
| 01:02.29 | Patlabor221 | sicko |
| 01:02.31 | scanline | M-x bzflag-mode |
| 01:02.32 | bryjen | scanline: who did that port ? |
| 01:02.36 | captain_proton | ewww |
| 01:02.40 | scanline | and now for bzflag, in ascii, in lisp! |
| 01:03.54 | captain_proton | not just lisp, elisp |
| 01:04.12 | scanline | Extraordinary Lisp! |
| 01:04.15 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 01:04.37 | Merry | You are confuzzling me!!!! |
| 01:04.41 | *** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-63-204-107-181.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 01:04.58 | Merry | lol |
| 01:05.14 | Patlabor221 | warm in the blanket of fear |
| 01:05.20 | Merry | lol |
| 01:06.31 | Patlabor221 | is it bigger then a breadbox? |
| 01:06.44 | captain_proton | it is! |
| 01:06.45 | scanline | Merry: it's a secret conbination of 13 linguistic herbs and spices |
| 01:06.45 | Merry | yuck |
| 01:06.53 | Merry | Nope |
| 01:07.16 | Merry | It means: Confused and Puzzled |
| 01:07.39 | Merry | lol |
| 01:08.04 | scanline | Merry: what? not: confiscated, fused, fuzzy, and lengthy? |
| 01:09.00 | Merry | No, no, no!! You don't get me do you? |
| 01:10.40 | scanline | Not at those outrageous prices! |
| 01:10.57 | Merry | lol!! |
| 01:11.12 | scanline | Wipe that mouth off your face before you get us all killed! |
| 01:11.30 | Merry | Confuzzled means: Confuzzled and puzzled |
| 01:11.47 | scanline | like a teady bear, rich in its natural juices |
| 01:12.17 | Merry | AH! |
| 01:12.19 | Merry | nno |
| 01:12.35 | Merry | confuzzled means: Confused and Puzzled!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:12.46 | scanline | or a Quantum Cyberslinky, rampaging through down town New Guinea |
| 01:13.08 | Merry | YOu're driving me up a wall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:13.14 | bzgirl | heh |
| 01:13.32 | scanline | you're not thinking 4th dimensionally! |
| 01:13.42 | captain_proton | bryjen: hehe |
| 01:13.42 | JBDiGriz | Ouch, someone's screaming, could you be a little quieter please? |
| 01:13.50 | scanline | bryjen: =) |
| 01:14.05 | captain_proton | in fact, scanline is sounding very much like a markov chain at the moment... |
| 01:14.15 | scanline | hehe |
| 01:14.18 | captain_proton | scanline: no, don't |
| 01:14.22 | captain_proton | its bad enough with just you |
| 01:14.36 | scanline | too lazy to actually remember where I left that silly bot |
| 01:14.39 | JBDiGriz | My ignore window is ready for anything! |
| 01:15.04 | Patlabor221 | you have a window for ignores? |
| 01:15.23 | scanline | Patlabor221: it's the new GUI frontend for /dev/null |
| 01:15.29 | JBDiGriz | X-Chat, I can add people and click to ignore/unignore |
| 01:15.37 | Noodleman | there they go again, one of their controlled burns went out-of-control |
| 01:15.47 | Merry | Hey Noodleman |
| 01:16.52 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 01:17.15 | captain_proton | when i still thought such antics were clever |
| 01:17.49 | scanline | void*? |
| 01:17.53 | captain_proton | yeah |
| 01:17.57 | captain_proton | pointer to void |
| 01:18.00 | scanline | that reminds me... |
| 01:18.07 | scanline | wonder if the void* web site has been updated in the last year or so |
| 01:18.29 | captain_proton | isn't that carp's weird treehouse club? |
| 01:18.34 | captain_proton | =) |
| 01:18.40 | scanline | yeah |
| 01:18.45 | scanline | wow, apparently it has |
| 01:18.49 | scanline | http://voidptr.org/ |
| 01:19.13 | scanline | full of the usual rants |
| 01:19.39 | captain_proton | hm |
| 01:19.43 | captain_proton | he obviously hasn't heard of CSS |
| 01:19.45 | captain_proton | or taste |
| 01:20.00 | Patlabor221 | they killed freecraft? |
| 01:20.18 | scanline | tr/[]/()/ |
| 01:20.22 | captain_proton | oh nevermind |
| 01:20.25 | captain_proton | he uses a stylesheet |
| 01:20.29 | captain_proton | its just a butt-ugly stylesheet |
| 01:20.57 | captain_proton | and he still uses tables |
| 01:21.21 | Noodleman | i use a mixture of tables and CSS |
| 01:21.30 | Merry | lol |
| 01:21.33 | scanline | well, tables have a place... |
| 01:21.35 | scanline | they're for tables |
| 01:21.41 | Patlabor221 | I use a mixture of Rum and Pepsi |
| 01:21.42 | scanline | not for formatting |
| 01:22.05 | bryjen | as furniture |
| 01:22.19 | Merry | curry? |
| 01:22.26 | scanline | captain_proton: the source is rather unformatted too |
| 01:22.31 | captain_proton | scanline: i noticed |
| 01:22.31 | Patlabor221 | a vindilou!!! |
| 01:22.41 | captain_proton | i wonder if its partially auto-generated |
| 01:22.44 | scanline | captain_proton: looked at the source navi_cgi spits out? it's not pretty, but it's consistent :) |
| 01:23.00 | scanline | captain_proton: yes, it's generated via carpman's AoF web interface thingy |
| 01:23.14 | captain_proton | scanline: gross :) |
| 01:23.40 | captain_proton | egads |
| 01:23.43 | scanline | captain_proton: I tried making it pretty-print it somewhat, but the cia_stats table for example got horrendously large.. so I just settled for stripping out all whitespace and folding it |
| 01:23.57 | Noodleman | i use pure css for very simple layouts, but i find it's more complicated than neccessary for anything more |
| 01:24.16 | scanline | captain_proton: heh.. now that the charts section works I might just ditch that section |
| 01:24.31 | Noodleman | ~botsmack |
| 01:24.32 | | sure, wanna snort some with me? |
| 01:24.49 | Nidhoggr | ~botsnack |
| 01:24.49 | | thanks, Nidhoggr |
| 01:24.51 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 01:25.07 | captain_proton | huh? |
| 01:25.21 | Nidhoggr | I think she misunderstood you. |
| 01:25.27 | captain_proton | yeah, me too |
| 01:25.30 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 01:25.30 | Merry | lol |
| 01:25.35 | Merry | sry |
| 01:26.20 | Nidhoggr | pat... my vid card was definitely bad. replaced with old riva tnt, and it doesn't lock up anymore. |
| 01:26.27 | Nidhoggr | now I gotta go get a new card. :) |
| 01:26.28 | Merry | I don't really, well, I don't want to embariss myself |
| 01:27.18 | Patlabor221 | did you go to fry's? |
| 01:27.54 | Merry | I don't know what, well, I don't know what indulgs means, so I said I think not |
| 01:28.05 | captain_proton | ~dict indulge |
| 01:28.22 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 01:28.25 | captain_proton | in this case, the second definition |
| 01:28.43 | Merry | Which one's second one? |
| 01:28.54 | captain_proton | yield (to); give satisfaction to [syn: {gratify}, {pander}] |
| 01:29.06 | bryjen | he meant he did what you suggested |
| 01:29.20 | scanline | hence, I get smacked again |
| 01:29.26 | Merry | oh, thx, I thought I would get embarrissed |
| 01:29.34 | Noodleman | ~fishslap scanline |
| 01:29.36 | | ACTION slaps scanline up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 01:29.40 | scanline | yyyep |
| 01:30.05 | Merry | lol |
| 01:30.41 | bzdoug | wb captain_proton |
| 01:30.46 | bzdoug | heya Noodleman |
| 01:30.47 | Nidhoggr | I still have to do dinner.. but it's only 6:30ish here. |
| 01:30.57 | bzdoug | hello Nidhoggr :) |
| 01:31.00 | Noodleman | ~insult bzdoug |
| 01:31.01 | Noodlebot | bzdoug, thou art a dull and muddy-mettled rascal |
| 01:31.01 | Nidhoggr | hi dug |
| 01:31.05 | Nidhoggr | doug even |
| 01:31.12 | bzdoug | heheh |
| 01:31.20 | Nidhoggr | ~lart noodleman |
| 01:31.24 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 01:31.30 | Nidhoggr | double teamed! |
| 01:31.35 | bryjen | double-larting |
| 01:31.37 | Noodleman | hee |
| 01:31.54 | bryjen | some lusers need more adjusting than others ;) |
| 01:31.57 | bzdoug | go away Noodlebot!!! |
| 01:32.10 | bzdoug | hm, that didnt work |
| 01:32.37 | Merry | s |
| 01:32.40 | Merry | ous w/e |
| 01:32.46 | Nidhoggr | ~spell visious |
| 01:32.48 | | possible spellings for visious: visions vicious vision's vinous vision visors viscous various Vitia's virtuous videos visor's visitors visor |
| 01:32.51 | *** kick/#bzflag [bzdoug!~jeffm@adsl-67-115-244-109.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] by Patlabor221 (stop scaring the girls) |
| 01:32.51 | *** join/#bzflag bzdoug (~Joe@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net) |
| 01:32.53 | Merry | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:32.59 | Nidhoggr | !spell vicious |
| 01:33.06 | Nidhoggr | ~spell vicious |
| 01:33.07 | | 'vicious' may be spelled correctly |
| 01:33.12 | Merry | O.K. O.K. Don't embarissing |
| 01:33.13 | Merry | nme |
| 01:33.14 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 01:33.19 | Merry | It's alright Pat |
| 01:33.21 | scanline | ~spell embarissing |
| 01:33.22 | | possible spellings for embarissing: embarrassing embossing embracing |
| 01:33.22 | Nidhoggr | just helping out :) |
| 01:33.26 | scanline | =) |
| 01:33.27 | bzdoug | heya Patlabor221! |
| 01:33.52 | scanline | hmm, I forgot embarrassing had two 'r's |
| 01:34.10 | Nidhoggr | must be getting old ;) |
| 01:34.10 | scanline | silly english language.. |
| 01:34.24 | bzdoug | scanline: what would you suggest in its place? |
| 01:34.28 | Noodleman | engrish |
| 01:34.36 | Merry | I KNOW! |
| 01:34.44 | Merry | engrish lol |
| 01:34.57 | Nidhoggr | funniest website ever. www.engrish.com |
| 01:35.16 | Nidhoggr | I usually laugh so hard I get sick. |
| 01:35.26 | Noodleman | it doesn't seem that funny to me |
| 01:35.42 | bzdoug | theres help for people like you |
| 01:35.44 | Nidhoggr | it's only funny because I've seen it a lot in real ife. |
| 01:35.46 | Nidhoggr | life |
| 01:35.46 | bzdoug | :) |
| 01:36.03 | Merry | in* |
| 01:43.01 | Patlabor221 | maybe |
| 01:43.08 | Merry | lol |
| 01:43.34 | Patlabor221 | somone likes emotes a bit much |
| 01:43.35 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 01:43.47 | bzdoug | hello brat |
| 01:43.58 | bzdoug | :) |
| 01:44.06 | bzgirl | hi :) |
| 01:45.34 | *** join/#bzflag Haldir (~Merry@adsl-68-73-117-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 01:47.09 | Merry | hi |
| 01:47.16 | Haldir | he he |
| 01:48.28 | Merry | I'm Hladir on the X-chat |
| 01:48.38 | Haldir | Hekllllo? |
| 01:48.52 | Haldir | How do I change my profile? |
| 01:49.14 | bzgirl | close ksirc |
| 01:49.16 | Merry | Which one should I close? |
| 01:49.27 | Patlabor221 | the nasty one, ksirc :) |
| 01:49.32 | Patlabor221 | then do a /nick merry |
| 01:49.38 | *** part/#bzflag Merry (~mikep@adsl-68-73-117-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 01:49.43 | Haldir | Bye precious |
| 01:49.51 | Patlabor221 | there ya go |
| 01:50.39 | Merry | Did everyone see mu password?!!? |
| 01:50.46 | captain_proton | no |
| 01:50.46 | bzgirl | no :) |
| 01:50.52 | Patlabor221 | no, noones sees yur pass |
| 01:51.11 | Merry | Good! /me whew! |
| 01:52.31 | Merry | Hi fiber! |
| 01:52.42 | Merry | And Chestal! |
| 01:52.51 | JBDiGriz | High fiber oat bran! |
| 01:53.21 | Merry | Hey, I meant Fiberchunks |
| 01:53.39 | Merry | What's mean? |
| 01:53.48 | Merry | What's that Noodleman thing mean? |
| 01:55.18 | bzdoug | hmm, odd, the mac sees 2 smb servers outside of my ip range |
| 01:55.51 | Patlabor221 | that means he quit |
| 01:56.01 | Merry | Oh |
| 01:56.18 | Merry | Pat, how do I get an icon? |
| 01:56.26 | Patlabor221 | there are no ICons in IRC |
| 01:56.36 | Patlabor221 | that's an AIM/MSN/yahoo thing |
| 01:56.39 | Merry | No, no, no, so I can get into it again. |
| 01:56.45 | Merry | Like a clicky thing |
| 01:56.45 | bzdoug | ah |
| 01:56.46 | Patlabor221 | ohh |
| 01:56.51 | Patlabor221 | no clue |
| 01:57.04 | Merry | argh...don't you use this? |
| 01:57.08 | Patlabor221 | what desktop manager |
| 01:57.17 | bzdoug | how do you start xchat? |
| 01:57.27 | Patlabor221 | yeah, but I use it with kde, and it came with an icon allready made |
| 01:57.30 | Merry | Oh I know, lemme' try it |
| 01:57.41 | Merry | I'm going to exit and get back in k? |
| 01:57.48 | Merry | brb |
| 01:58.52 | *** join/#bzflag Merry (~Merry@adsl-68-73-117-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 01:58.57 | Merry | Did it |
| 01:59.04 | Patlabor221 | very good |
| 02:01.47 | *** join/#bzflag gonkulator (~brandon@h-69-3-122-107.DNVTCO56.covad.net) |
| 02:02.30 | Merry | I'll come with you Pat |
| 02:03.25 | Merry | Want to play rabbit chase? |
| 02:03.29 | Merry | And who awnts to? |
| 02:03.32 | Merry | wants* |
| 02:04.09 | Merry | Am I being ignored? |
| 02:04.35 | Merry | Thought so |
| 02:04.40 | Merry | I'm going to rabbit |
| 02:04.46 | Merry | na, maybe not |
| 02:04.56 | Merry | I'll wait till someone answers |
| 02:04.58 | bzgirl | merry join the ducati rabbit server |
| 02:05.10 | Merry | K br there |
| 02:05.16 | Merry | bye |
| 02:08.00 | bzdoug | wow |
| 02:14.38 | *** join/#bzflag Skipp (~Skipp@0-2pool82-232.nas34.thornton1.co.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 02:20.12 | *** part/#bzflag Skipp (~Skipp@0-2pool82-232.nas34.thornton1.co.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 02:21.43 | *** join/#bzflag thunderbear (~thunderbe@pcp04143236pcs.walngs01.pa.comcast.net) |
| 02:23.07 | thunderbear | I've been struggling trying to find good doc on this |
| 02:23.14 | thunderbear | but I would like to host a bzflag lan party |
| 02:23.21 | thunderbear | 2 teams, like 20 people each |
| 02:23.35 | thunderbear | I have the room for it, I have the lan for it |
| 02:23.53 | thunderbear | what I would like to get a sense of is what kind of server do I need for it, and map?? |
| 02:24.33 | bzgirl | thunderbear: http://www.shellshock.dutchrai.com/references-hostsrv1.htm |
| 02:25.02 | thunderbear | cool |
| 02:25.05 | thunderbear | thanks for the pointer |
| 02:25.13 | thunderbear | I'll RTFM over there now |
| 02:25.23 | bzgirl | well its a pretty good guide |
| 02:25.50 | bzgirl | you dont need very much cpu/ram |
| 02:26.26 | bzdoug | a <1 ghz might work ;) |
| 02:26.34 | bzdoug | with around 64 players |
| 02:26.48 | thunderbear | I have a duron 750 with 512M |
| 02:27.10 | bzdoug | should do it fine |
| 02:27.32 | bzdoug | now its a 100 base/t network on a switch? |
| 02:28.11 | thunderbear | can 10Mbps handle it on a switch if the server has a 100Mbps uplink to the switch? |
| 02:28.31 | thunderbear | I mean I figure 20 people get onto our LUG's game server with cable modems & DSL, and the server only has a T1 |
| 02:28.46 | bzdoug | should |
| 02:29.16 | thunderbear | actually I might just break the piggy bank and buy a pair of 24 port switches (the two teams would be in adjacent buildings) |
| 02:29.48 | bzdoug | cool, but that might be overkill for a one time lan party |
| 02:30.10 | thunderbear | you haven't seen my home network :) |
| 02:30.14 | bzdoug | unless you have plans for this switch :) |
| 02:30.18 | thunderbear | it would be put to good use after the party |
| 02:30.28 | bzdoug | ah, sweet |
| 02:30.31 | thunderbear | http://trilug.org/~chrish/museum |
| 02:30.37 | thunderbear | that's just a few highlights |
| 02:31.13 | bzdoug | cool |
| 02:31.35 | bzdoug | too bad I cant host a lan party, I have the most perfect place at work |
| 02:32.31 | thunderbear | and on top of the LAN I have a set of very nice wireless access points so rogues can set up shop within about a half a mile of my building and join the game |
| 02:33.01 | bzdoug | bwuhahaha |
| 02:33.07 | bzdoug | where is this? |
| 02:34.01 | Patlabor221 | I think cap needs to go in and kills that bunny |
| 02:34.08 | captain_proton | what server? :) |
| 02:34.20 | Patlabor221 | learners |
| 02:34.29 | Patlabor221 | the one with my name in the title |
| 02:34.35 | Patlabor221 | and tell me what you think of the map |
| 02:36.16 | bzdoug | thunderbear: this the only game ur playing? |
| 02:36.37 | thunderbear | bzdoug: it's near Philadelphia |
| 02:36.47 | bzdoug | cool |
| 02:37.33 | thunderbear | bzdoug: I haven't planned it yet. bzflag seemed like a natural since like anyone can play it just about (not on my OpenBSD boxes yet... grrrr... but I have alternatives) |
| 02:37.43 | thunderbear | bzdoug: other games could work, too |
| 02:37.49 | bzdoug | ah |
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| 02:58.14 | Merry | bzg come on rabbit hunt help me |
| 02:58.18 | Merry | nm |
| 03:07.32 | bryjen | I keep getting rabbit, am I'm currently at -13 |
| 03:07.39 | bryjen | bottom of the list |
| 03:15.08 | captain_proton | bryjen: its a ratio thing |
| 03:17.57 | JBDiGriz | according to my scorelist, bryjen was near the top, and I was at the bottom. |
| 03:24.49 | Patlabor221 | cap what did you think of the map? |
| 03:24.57 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: not bad, not bad |
| 03:25.04 | captain_proton | could have used more reflecty things |
| 03:25.12 | Patlabor221 | thats what I was thinkin |
| 03:25.17 | Patlabor221 | more of those little boxes |
| 03:25.31 | Patlabor221 | more cover |
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| 03:26.12 | captain_proton | supamoves time |
| 03:28.04 | Patlabor221 | are you going to watch the RvB stuff at any point here? |
| 03:28.27 | learner | have a good vacation, cap? |
| 03:28.35 | captain_proton | learner: eh |
| 03:28.57 | Patlabor221 | he was forced to come ot my state |
| 03:29.04 | captain_proton | it was neat to see all the family, but the locale sucked |
| 03:29.37 | learner | guess it didn't involve voluptuous oiled down tanned bodies somewhere near the equator then.. |
| 03:30.01 | captain_proton | not so much |
| 03:30.08 | Patlabor221 | he went to our bad ripoff of his home state |
| 03:30.20 | learner | heheh, I hear you -- spent the weekend with relatives as well |
| 03:30.27 | Patlabor221 | we say that too, "it's like collorado but closer" :) |
| 03:30.36 | captain_proton | its like colorado except it sucks |
| 03:30.36 | captain_proton | a lot |
| 03:31.07 | Patlabor221 | shhhhh don't tell the californians, or they won't go there |
| 03:31.14 | Patlabor221 | it's tourst place |
| 03:31.23 | Patlabor221 | noone REAL lives there |
| 03:31.54 | bryjen | Ooops. the long -help option for bzfs lists -rc as the switch for rabbit mode |
| 03:32.08 | bryjen | The short help has it right, -rabbit |
| 03:32.16 | Patlabor221 | doh |
| 03:32.19 | learner | Woah.... |
| 03:32.22 | Patlabor221 | bot work I think |
| 03:32.25 | learner | what's this ... |
| 03:32.28 | learner | uread() discard packet! 68.73.117.113:13980 choices p(l) h:p 0(1) ... |
| 03:32.37 | learner | have a lot of them in my server log |
| 03:32.38 | Patlabor221 | a bad packet |
| 03:32.41 | captain_proton | learner: udp getting messed up |
| 03:32.47 | captain_proton | probably udp+NAT and older code? |
| 03:32.59 | learner | code is from friday night |
| 03:33.37 | captain_proton | hm |
| 03:33.50 | captain_proton | there were some times when everyone went NR... |
| 03:34.13 | learner | i notice that a successful game afterwords |
| 03:35.15 | learner | that game was apparently 20 minutes ago (the successful one) |
| 03:36.59 | bryjen | I was gonna stick the rabbitRatio on the scoreboard to try to finger out why I was getting rabbit when I had lowscore, but ever'body left :( |
| 03:38.45 | learner | also have a lesser but significant amount of these: Player Legolas [6] 350.619080 -3.332554 0.000000 tried to grab distant flag ... |
| 03:59.38 | bryjen | anyone for a quick rabbit test? |
| 03:59.56 | bryjen | roborabbits is no fun :( |
| 04:07.24 | bryjen | must be too late on a Sunday night |
| 04:08.13 | scanline | game? |
| 04:09.25 | JBDiGriz | bryjen: According to my scoreboard, you were a successful rabbit. |
| 04:09.26 | captain_proton | arkhart |
| 04:10.03 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: Next time in CA, come down to the beach. We have real people around here! |
| 04:10.55 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: you're in san diego? |
| 04:11.07 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: Yeah! |
| 04:11.10 | captain_proton | neat |
| 04:11.25 | captain_proton | my grandparents live down there (by mission bay) |
| 04:11.55 | JBDiGriz | In the condos around PB? |
| 04:12.02 | captain_proton | PB? |
| 04:12.07 | JBDiGriz | Pacific Beach |
| 04:12.16 | captain_proton | i'm not sure the name of the beach |
| 04:12.19 | captain_proton | but it is a condo |
| 04:12.32 | JBDiGriz | How close to the beach are they? |
| 04:12.50 | captain_proton | right next to it |
| 04:13.12 | JBDiGriz | I'm pretty sure I know where, right across from Sea World. |
| 04:15.33 | JBDiGriz | captain_proton: There was a player on ducati last night claiming to be you. Said a couple of things that made me skeptical. |
| 04:16.01 | captain_proton | JBDiGriz: well thats odd, because last night i was in your crappy state |
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| 04:16.13 | captain_proton | what'd they say? |
| 04:16.49 | JBDiGriz | decent enough player, claimed they hadn't been on vacation in a while, but had been playing golf. |
| 04:17.07 | captain_proton | well i did play golf while in cali, but it was the first time in about 7 years |
| 04:17.34 | JBDiGriz | unlike bz, you're supposed to go for the low score :{) |
| 04:17.36 | scanline | hooray! |
| 04:17.38 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 04:18.51 | learner | you know, something similar to a buddy list would be helpful -- you'd have to ask permission to private chat someone |
| 04:19.31 | captain_proton | learner: for irc? |
| 04:19.39 | learner | no, for the game |
| 04:19.56 | captain_proton | ah |
| 04:20.04 | learner | so that you don't get private trash-talking and obscene/annoying chatter |
| 04:20.33 | chatelaine | captain_proton: ive played as an alias, just to play, to be left alone and not asked to kick someone or not chatted to all the time..... |
| 04:21.04 | chatelaine | captain_proton: but ive found a few people i tohught were ok, suddenly be rude to me in pvt message |
| 04:21.12 | chatelaine | cos they didnt know who i was |
| 04:23.21 | captain_proton | bzgirl: =/ |
| 04:23.27 | bzgirl | heh |
| 04:27.25 | JBDiGriz | There's a good reason never to be rude to anyone on IRC or any other private message. You never know when they will turn up to be your next boss! |
| 04:27.38 | bzgirl | :) |
| 04:28.00 | learner | quite true, jb! |
| 04:28.16 | bzgirl | well it wasntthat rude...its just i kill this guuy 4 times and hes like "you suck" "your an idiot" |
| 04:28.32 | bzgirl | it was just suprising |
| 04:29.22 | JBDiGriz | Unless you were camping somewhere with gm or something similar, it's quite surprising! |
| 04:29.39 | bzgirl | no, it was on ducati |
| 04:29.41 | bzgirl | ctf |
| 04:30.30 | JBDiGriz | That's what I like about ctf. spawns can be unfair, but the rest of the game is strategy and skill |
| 04:30.38 | Nidhoggr | we had huge power surge at home last night and now my fileserver won't even power on. |
| 04:30.51 | bzgirl | we had a hail storm :) |
| 04:30.58 | Nidhoggr | eek! |
| 04:30.59 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 04:31.13 | Nidhoggr | no mp3s for me until I fix it. |
| 04:31.16 | JBDiGriz | I'll let captain_proton complain about the CA weather for me! |
| 04:31.24 | bzgirl | grr :) |
| 04:32.02 | Nidhoggr | it took out 3 computers at home... 2 of them were recovered. |
| 04:32.28 | JBDiGriz | Fry's has a sale on surge suppressors/battery backup systems. |
| 04:32.33 | bzgirl | i have a power bar with surge protection, are they usless? |
| 04:32.48 | Nidhoggr | in this case it would have been |
| 04:32.51 | learner | damn you westcoasters with Frys... |
| 04:32.51 | JBDiGriz | bzgirl: How long have you had it? |
| 04:32.52 | learner | :P |
| 04:32.53 | Nidhoggr | cuz we have those on all of our pcs |
| 04:33.12 | bzgirl | JBDiGriz: couple years |
| 04:33.27 | JBDiGriz | learner: Would you like a URL to watch all of the Fry's specials? |
| 04:33.37 | learner | bzgirl: they are good against surges.. :) |
| 04:34.05 | JBDiGriz | bzgirl: The cheap surge suppressors seem to be good for a couple of years, but then don't protect against serious spikes. |
| 04:34.05 | learner | but UPS is definately better -- gives you clean power and protects against outtages |
| 04:34.50 | JBDiGriz | I have a couple of small UPS's, they won't last longer than a few minutes, but that's enough for the servers to shut down. |
| 04:35.21 | JBDiGriz | learner: $20 at Fry's :{) |
| 04:35.30 | learner | bite me |
| 04:35.35 | learner | :) |
| 04:35.59 | learner | my 650 UPS was 120, I believe |
| 04:36.05 | JBDiGriz | yech! tastes like plastic |
| 04:36.10 | learner | lol! |
| 04:37.14 | Nidhoggr | mmm tastes like chicken |
| 04:37.20 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 04:37.35 | learner | hey.. I need one of those for my 486 -- keeps asking me to press it |
| 04:37.57 | JBDiGriz | Now I won't be able to find it when I'm asked to press it! |
| 04:38.32 | learner | is patlabor maxwells silver hammer or is that cap? |
| 04:38.42 | captain_proton | is me |
| 04:38.46 | learner | ah |
| 04:39.32 | Nidhoggr | got new vid card, now I'm installing xp so I can play bzflag :) |
| 04:39.36 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: rip out unused radio |
| 04:42.27 | learner | you know -- a buddy list wouldn't really be all that hard now that I think about it |
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| 04:50.53 | learner | can anyone rant off the /[un]silence command syntax/behavior? |
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| 05:26.49 | BZSpiff | Hey all. :) |
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| 06:00.32 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: Protect against folks not using directmessagebuffer |
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| 06:04.56 | captain_proton | whoa |
| 06:05.00 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream is working on bzflag! |
| 06:05.23 | JBDiGriz | Thanks captain_proton! |
| 06:05.43 | scanline | and it would have been a total mystery if not for CIA's top notch detective work |
| 06:05.53 | captain_proton | scanline: indeed! |
| 06:06.24 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 06:06.25 | MrApathyCream | jiggers, the cops |
| 06:06.32 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 06:06.33 | scanline | hmm.. too many command line options... |
| 06:06.38 | captain_proton | i like the PROGRAMMING ERROR output =) |
| 06:06.38 | scanline | micah@yoshi pgbuild $ ./build -h | wc -l |
| 06:06.38 | scanline | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:07.05 | MrApathyCream | I was tempted to say DEBUG1( "The fist says..."); |
| 06:07.21 | captain_proton | hee |
| 06:08.32 | captain_proton | its so weird with the house this quiet... |
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| 06:11.50 | MrApathyCream | WOOWOO! |
| 06:12.04 | captain_proton | =) |
| 06:12.08 | captain_proton | ooh you naughty people |
| 06:12.14 | captain_proton | bzflag is no longer in the 10 most active... |
| 06:12.20 | MrApathyCream | btw, are rabbits annointed? |
| 06:12.40 | MrApathyCream | kings are, but rabbits? |
| 06:12.56 | captain_proton | sure, why not |
| 06:15.55 | captain_proton | [dmp]: oh, for a match? that sucks |
| 06:16.29 | [dmp] | captain_proton: no, worse. For our preparation to the exam later today. |
| 06:16.38 | captain_proton | ohh |
| 06:16.40 | captain_proton | that sucks a LOT |
| 06:17.46 | [dmp] | My team"mates" have written some pages they dont understand.. eg. Whats the diff between NP-hard and NPC.. "erhm. i dont know" .. :-| |
| 06:19.21 | captain_proton | "it was like a salt pancake laid upon the body politic of the great nation..." |
| 06:21.59 | captain_proton | "they feature armenian food, geek dancing and those live chickens you've heard so much about" |
| 06:24.39 | [dmp] | Guess it aint gonna smoothly: "./configure: test: unknown operator == |
| 06:24.40 | [dmp] | " |
| 06:27.22 | [dmp] | gcc 2.95; can it compile bzflag? |
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| 06:27.56 | captain_proton | [dmp]: probably =) |
| 06:28.33 | [dmp] | im trying with g2 |
| 06:29.06 | captain_proton | g2 should work |
| 06:29.08 | [dmp] | seems like HAVE_SOCKLEN_T isnt set. (it should have been set) |
| 06:29.20 | captain_proton | odd |
| 06:29.36 | [dmp] | get this warning too: ++: unrecognized option `-KPIC' |
| 06:29.51 | captain_proton | hm... |
| 06:29.55 | captain_proton | sounds like you're on solaris :) |
| 06:30.00 | [dmp] | i am :) |
| 06:31.01 | captain_proton | g2 compiles on me for solaris, but i haven't actually tested that it runs :) |
| 06:31.36 | [dmp] | i cant compile it at all: /usr/include/sys/socket.h:61: conflicting types for `typedef unsigned int socklen_t' |
| 06:31.36 | [dmp] | ../../include/common.h:44: previous declaration as `typedef int socklen_t' |
| 06:31.55 | captain_proton | edit include/config.h and define HAVE_SOCKLEN_T |
| 06:32.09 | captain_proton | if you could send me the config.log from that machine i can look to see why it failed |
| 06:32.38 | [dmp] | send to... ? |
| 06:35.43 | [dmp] | its on its way. |
| 06:36.01 | MrApathyCream | config.h bites again |
| 06:37.36 | captain_proton | but its better than what we had before |
| 06:38.46 | captain_proton | hm, weird |
| 06:41.50 | captain_proton | =) |
| 06:45.06 | captain_proton | [dmp]: solaris 2.8? |
| 06:45.58 | captain_proton | well |
| 06:46.10 | [dmp] | captain_proton: think so (uname -a = SunOS blade4.cs.auc.dk 5.8 Generic_108528-19 sun4u sparc) |
| 06:46.10 | captain_proton | looks like if you run ./autogen.sh and then ./configure, you don't get the syntax error |
| 06:46.16 | captain_proton | (autotools blah) |
| 06:47.26 | captain_proton | but it looks like the test for socklen doesn't work on solaris |
| 06:47.32 | captain_proton | guess i didn't test it after i changed it |
| 06:47.37 | captain_proton | just change config.h :P |
| 06:48.10 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 06:48.44 | [dmp] | ./autogen.sh ./configure dosnt work.. i need to use bash for configure |
| 06:50.54 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: hah |
| 06:51.46 | [dmp] | AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include <sys/socket.h>], [socklen_t a;], [AC_DEFINE(HAVE_SOCKLEN_T)]) |
| 06:51.46 | [dmp] | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.49 | MrApathyCream | *sigh* |
| 06:53.06 | [dmp] | isnt this wrong? dosnt it look like gcc2.95 is using gcc3 headers? /pack/gcc-2.95.3/lib/gcc-lib/sparc-sun-solaris2.8/2.95.3/../../../../include/g++-3/stl_map.h |
| 06:53.59 | captain_proton | [dmp]: thats gcc2 headers |
| 06:54.07 | captain_proton | g++-3 are the 3rd generation headers |
| 06:54.14 | [dmp] | ok |
| 06:55.02 | MrApathyCream | king of the bunnies should have a bunny-time score element |
| 06:55.17 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: Show TK in scoreboard |
| 06:56.12 | [dmp] | :) |
| 06:56.15 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: include socket.h in the headers for testing socklen_t (solaris) |
| 06:57.08 | captain_proton | 'night MrApathyCream |
| 06:57.16 | MrApathyCream | zzzzz |
| 06:57.27 | [dmp] | ..non-template type `map' used as a template |
| 06:57.28 | [dmp] | In file included from ../../include/ErrorHandler.h:27, |
| 06:57.28 | [dmp] | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.28 | [dmp] | ../../include/Bundle.h:13: `map' is not a template |
| 06:57.35 | [dmp] | that cant be good. |
| 06:58.00 | captain_proton | oh bleh |
| 06:58.07 | captain_proton | i don't think 2.95 is gonna cut the mustard |
| 06:58.18 | captain_proton | i'd forgotten that 2.95 on solaris has a broken stl |
| 06:59.38 | [dmp] | it seems i only got 2.95 available. :-| |
| 06:59.47 | captain_proton | you could build 3.2 =) |
| 07:00.01 | [dmp] | :) |
| 07:02.34 | [dmp] | urgh.. group-people :) |
| 07:03.02 | captain_proton | heh |
| 07:03.06 | captain_proton | at least they showed up |
| 07:08.25 | captain_proton | ok, i think i'm gonna turn in |
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| 08:08.06 | bomber | moin |
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| 08:39.43 | ak|ra | hi |
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| 13:16.07 | Merry | Who wants to go on the rabbit? |
| 13:16.35 | Merry | Hello? |
| 13:16.47 | Merry | Anyone? |
| 13:17.11 | Merry | bye! |
| 13:17.13 | ak|ra | cu |
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| 13:40.40 | Merry | Who wants to go on rabbit? |
| 13:41.03 | Merry | Ahh, no one k bye |
| 13:41.12 | ak|ra_ | ? |
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| 14:04.19 | niksie | learner: hey |
| 14:04.23 | niksie | learner: are you here? |
| 14:04.40 | learner | Nicole? |
| 14:05.26 | boxedman | learner: have you done any work on bzedit for macosx yet? |
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| 14:10.43 | ak|ra | cu all |
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| 14:17.05 | boxedman | ~bzedit |
| 14:17.05 | | from memory, bzedit is http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/code/bzedit-2.1.tar.gz on linux http://www.artemisgames.com/bzedit for windows |
| 14:17.30 | learner | thx |
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| 14:27.22 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 14:27.39 | learner | welcome back, tim |
| 14:28.16 | boxedman | TimRiker: you are responsible for serious amounts of wasted time :) |
| 14:28.45 | sussudio | learner: you mean like unban doug? |
| 14:28.52 | learner | hehe |
| 14:29.10 | boxedman | is he banned? |
| 14:29.28 | boxedman | he was very annoying yesterday :) |
| 14:29.46 | sussudio | he was banned for a while but logged in through a shell |
| 14:30.06 | sussudio | doug serves no useful purpose in here... he doesnt develop or even play bzflag |
| 14:31.15 | boxedman | how many where spam? |
| 14:31.37 | sussudio | TimRiker: cvs seems to be severely buggered anyway |
| 14:31.47 | bryjen | and about enlargement of, uhm, body parts ? |
| 14:31.48 | Nidhoggr | it's been really unhappy. |
| 14:32.20 | sussudio | ENLARGE YOUR GUIDED MISSILE BY 13 INCHES |
| 14:32.40 | bryjen | SF's anonymous cvs is ill. The developers have said ssh access to it works OK still. |
| 14:33.09 | boxedman | Its not bzflag specific |
| 14:33.28 | Nidhoggr | I'm talking about the cvs.bzflag.org one, not SF :) |
| 14:33.46 | boxedman | oh, ok |
| 14:33.49 | boxedman | :) |
| 14:33.55 | bryjen | ~nslookup cvs.bzflag.org |
| 14:34.21 | bryjen | ~nslookup cvs.sourceforge.net |
| 14:34.30 | Nidhoggr | eek! |
| 14:34.35 | Nidhoggr | so they are the same. |
| 14:34.43 | boxedman | hmm |
| 14:34.46 | Nidhoggr | and I thought we were SPECIAL or something! |
| 14:34.52 | boxedman | heheh |
| 14:35.03 | captain_proton | TimRiker: back from vacation? |
| 14:41.20 | boxedman | what does the verb "to riker" mean? |
| 14:41.29 | *** join/#bzflag mmu_man (~revol@ALyon-209-1-31-167.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:41.36 | sussudio | ~dict riker |
| 14:41.53 | boxedman | I'm thinking its related to Tim Rikers name |
| 14:41.58 | bryjen | boxedman: as used where? |
| 14:42.09 | boxedman | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/FlagList |
| 14:42.17 | boxedman | To be Rikered |
| 14:42.25 | bryjen | submitted to Tim for approval |
| 14:42.30 | boxedman | ah, ok |
| 14:43.54 | Chestal | tag |
| 14:44.01 | captain_proton | eek its a Chestal |
| 14:44.08 | Chestal | captain_proton: welcome back |
| 14:44.11 | bryjen | who's it? |
| 14:44.39 | captain_proton | Chestal: thanks |
| 14:45.21 | sussudio | \bz |
| 14:56.25 | sussudio | i think most users won't get the rabbit hunt concept... |
| 14:56.34 | captain_proton | sussudio: howso? |
| 14:56.50 | sussudio | not killing your teammates is a difficult thing for most, let alone an alternating enemy |
| 14:57.08 | captain_proton | well in this case the enemy is flashing on the radar and set to auto-hunt... |
| 14:57.36 | sussudio | i think it also needs a big sign "only kill this tank" |
| 14:57.48 | captain_proton | ok, you feel free to implement that |
| 14:58.03 | boxedman | how about making everyone the same color except the rabit? |
| 14:58.11 | captain_proton | boxedman: thats how it works |
| 14:58.17 | captain_proton | rabbit is white, all others are black |
| 14:58.22 | boxedman | ah ok |
| 14:58.32 | boxedman | Haven't played it on a heavily populated server yet :) |
| 15:00.00 | boxedman | I have been waiting to see that for years now |
| 15:00.05 | boxedman | I want to see the cross damnit |
| 15:00.12 | sussudio | my cats were bigger than that |
| 15:01.46 | TimRiker | bzflag | 1.7g2-1 | testing | source, alpha, arm, hppa, i386, ia64, m68k, mips, mipsel, powerpc, s390, sparc |
| 15:01.55 | TimRiker | debian builds all finished. |
| 15:01.55 | sussudio | hm? |
| 15:02.09 | captain_proton | neat |
| 15:02.10 | sussudio | yeah i think i saw that this morning |
| 15:02.47 | TimRiker | boxedman: perhaps 10% of those were spam. my rules work pretty well. |
| 15:05.29 | captain_proton | TimRiker: the flag list is somewhat out of date anyway |
| 15:06.04 | learner | rabbit hunt will go a lot smoother once automatic real team transitioning happens |
| 15:06.46 | learner | so all the hunters are on a team, and rabbit is a one-man team separate (not just a visual difference between rogues) |
| 15:07.12 | captain_proton | learner: thats pretty much how it works right now |
| 15:07.22 | captain_proton | there's some kludgy logic to treat rogues as a team if in rabbit mode |
| 15:07.51 | learner | so... then I make all players on the red team.. and they'll get Tk's for shooting other hunters? :) |
| 15:08.00 | sussudio | frans bauer's greatest hits...... /me shivers |
| 15:08.01 | learner | that's what I mean |
| 15:08.43 | bryjen | rabbit hunt won't let you do colors |
| 15:09.34 | captain_proton | learner: well...that would require a client change, but yeah |
| 15:09.41 | learner | yeah |
| 15:10.12 | Chestal | uhmm they should get tks already? |
| 15:10.16 | Chestal | but they are all rogue |
| 15:10.35 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 15:11.05 | captain_proton | learner: do you have -tkkr or -tk? |
| 15:11.21 | bryjen | sha, duh. red killing red is already a TK. thanks Ches ;) |
| 15:12.33 | learner | cap: both, -tk -tkker 25 |
| 15:12.39 | captain_proton | ok |
| 15:12.44 | captain_proton | -tk was preventing tks then |
| 15:12.51 | captain_proton | i think =) |
| 15:12.54 | learner | how so? |
| 15:13.01 | bryjen | -tk: player does not die when killing a teammate |
| 15:13.26 | bryjen | default behavior is that they do |
| 15:13.31 | learner | yes, but it should give that blood curdling squelch |
| 15:13.44 | bryjen | Hee-Haw |
| 15:13.47 | captain_proton | the donkey? hmm |
| 15:14.02 | learner | the old tv show? hmm |
| 15:14.10 | bryjen | the J*ck *ss |
| 15:14.27 | bryjen | as in don't do that you ___ |
| 15:14.33 | Chestal | how do you liek the adjusted sounds? |
| 15:14.52 | learner | i haven't heard them yet |
| 15:15.02 | captain_proton | Chestal: iirc the donkey was one of those? |
| 15:15.05 | bryjen | I notice the landing sound |
| 15:15.06 | Chestal | captain_proton: yes |
| 15:15.09 | captain_proton | it needs to be resampled to twice speed |
| 15:15.12 | *** join/#bzflag Merry (~merry@adsl-68-73-117-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 15:15.20 | captain_proton | the rest are good |
| 15:15.27 | *** part/#bzflag Merry (~merry@adsl-68-73-117-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 15:15.31 | bryjen | Is the GM different too? |
| 15:15.37 | Chestal | yes |
| 15:15.47 | *** join/#bzflag Merry (~merry@adsl-68-73-117-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 15:15.51 | bryjen | Ah. I thought so |
| 15:15.53 | Chestal | alltogether 5 or 6 sounds |
| 15:16.17 | Chestal | actually 5 resampled, and one fixed (steamroller) |
| 15:17.41 | bryjen | the SR thing is weird. What's it supposed to be? |
| 15:18.53 | captain_proton | bryjen: crunching |
| 15:19.19 | Merry | May I ask.... |
| 15:19.32 | captain_proton | Chestal: the donkey definitely needs to be twice speed |
| 15:19.39 | Merry | who is TimRiker? |
| 15:19.47 | captain_proton | Merry: its Tim Riker |
| 15:19.59 | Merry | Who is he? |
| 15:20.08 | captain_proton | the project maintainer |
| 15:20.13 | bryjen | Nobody reads the startup messages :) |
| 15:20.15 | captain_proton | "the man" |
| 15:21.04 | Chestal | bryjen: some squelching sound I guess. uhm, is this a word? |
| 15:21.07 | Chestal | !dict squelch |
| 15:21.13 | Merry | Oh |
| 15:21.22 | bryjen | ~dict squelch |
| 15:21.55 | Chestal | guess it's more or less what I meant :-) |
| 15:21.58 | captain_proton | heh |
| 15:22.15 | bryjen | I'd only seen it used as in SNR |
| 15:23.02 | Merry | why do you always habe the dictionaru ibot? |
| 15:23.45 | bryjen | Doesn't give me the impression of a metal object being crushed. But then, I've never heard someone crush a tank ;) |
| 15:24.05 | captain_proton | bryjen: i think its just something apathy found somewhere - feel free to try to find something better |
| 15:24.24 | nkist | how about a coke can being crushed? |
| 15:25.12 | nkist | heh |
| 15:25.17 | Merry | lol |
| 15:25.35 | bryjen | apathy is contagious |
| 15:25.38 | nkist | I get configure: error: Cannot find gtkglarea while attempting to build the unix bzedit |
| 15:25.50 | nkist | "configure: error: Cannot find gtkglarea" |
| 15:25.54 | Merry | Download it |
| 15:26.07 | rooter | ~dict kumquat |
| 15:26.15 | nkist | neither of the suggestions on www.bzflag.org/wiki/bzedit help |
| 15:26.32 | nkist | I have it installed |
| 15:26.38 | nkist | what file is it looking for exactly? |
| 15:26.43 | Merry | Dictionary argh! |
| 15:26.58 | nkist | I have a header file in /sw/include/gtkgl/gtkglarea.h |
| 15:26.59 | Merry | Are you using linux or windows? |
| 15:27.03 | nkist | macosx |
| 15:27.24 | captain_proton | nkist: if you send me the config.log, i'll try to take a look |
| 15:27.36 | captain_proton | but i'll warn you that nobody has ever tried on osx] |
| 15:27.40 | bryjen | do you have a libgtkglarea .a or .so ? |
| 15:27.50 | Merry | Then try and find a "Find Files" |
| 15:27.55 | Merry | Then look up BZEdit |
| 15:28.20 | captain_proton | nkist: i didn't even know they had gtk for osx =) |
| 15:28.32 | nkist | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.35 | nkist | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.43 | nkist | captain_proton: its in X11 |
| 15:29.32 | captain_proton | ahh, makes sense |
| 15:29.38 | nkist | captain_proton: niksie.dyndnds.org/config.log |
| 15:29.52 | nkist | heh |
| 15:29.59 | nkist | they have that for Qt now |
| 15:30.25 | captain_proton | so its having trouble with gtkglarea? |
| 15:30.32 | nkist | yeah |
| 15:31.10 | captain_proton | looks like you're missing libGLU too? |
| 15:31.27 | captain_proton | err - thats why its failing |
| 15:31.38 | captain_proton | can't find libGLU anywhere |
| 15:31.44 | captain_proton | so it assumes gtkglarea won't work =) |
| 15:31.49 | nkist | heh |
| 15:31.49 | nkist | ok |
| 15:31.55 | nkist | should I install glut? |
| 15:32.02 | captain_proton | not glut |
| 15:32.06 | captain_proton | its probably a library path issue |
| 15:32.14 | captain_proton | do a find for libGLU\* |
| 15:33.02 | nkist | macosx has inherent support for ogl |
| 15:33.30 | captain_proton | nkist: i'll bet you still have a libGLU |
| 15:34.00 | captain_proton | configure:3534: checking for GL |
| 15:34.01 | captain_proton | configure:3556: gcc -o conftest -g -O2 conftest.c -L/sw/lib -lgtk-x11-2.0 -lgdk-x11-2.0 -latk-1.0 -lgdk_pixbuf-2.0 -lm -lpangoxft-1.0 -lpangox-1.0 -lpango-1.0 -lgobject-2.0 -lgmodule-2.0 -lglib-2.0 -lintl -liconv -lGLU -lGL >&5 |
| 15:34.01 | captain_proton | ld: can't locate file for: -lGLU |
| 15:34.19 | nkist | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.51 | captain_proton | tried giving it a --with-gl-prefix? :) |
| 15:34.55 | nkist | doing so now |
| 15:35.02 | nkist | I have the eery feeling that its gonna work |
| 15:35.07 | nkist | and that I should have fucking known |
| 15:36.38 | captain_proton | well - there may be other problems too |
| 15:36.44 | nkist | yeah |
| 15:36.45 | captain_proton | the gtkglarea check uses pkgconfig |
| 15:36.46 | nkist | its giving me this: |
| 15:37.23 | Merry | Did you get it nkist |
| 15:37.24 | Merry | ? |
| 15:37.40 | nkist | Package gtkgl-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. |
| 15:37.40 | nkist | Perhaps you should add the directory containing `gtkgl-2.0.pc' |
| 15:37.40 | nkist | to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable |
| 15:38.06 | captain_proton | see? pkgconfig :) |
| 15:38.17 | nkist | yeah |
| 15:39.06 | Merry | pkconfig??????????? |
| 15:39.20 | captain_proton | nkist: do you have pkgconfig installed? |
| 15:39.29 | nkist | captain_proton: yeah |
| 15:40.11 | captain_proton | locate gtk+-2.0.pc |
| 15:40.23 | nkist | I have that one |
| 15:40.29 | captain_proton | where is it? |
| 15:41.23 | nkist | oh, it is looking for that |
| 15:41.56 | nkist | weird... |
| 15:42.27 | nkist | its not, its looking for gtkGL-2.0.pc |
| 15:43.03 | captain_proton | it should be called 'gtkgl-2.0.pc' (not GL) |
| 15:43.13 | nkist | yeah |
| 15:43.41 | captain_proton | do you have one? |
| 15:43.48 | nkist | can't find it |
| 15:43.52 | captain_proton | i can give it to you, but you'll need to modify paths for your system |
| 15:44.00 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/gtkgl-2.0.pc |
| 15:44.14 | sussudio | Merry: are you related to Doug at all? |
| 15:44.27 | nkist | is there a tool that could create that? |
| 15:45.56 | Merry | What/?!?!?! |
| 15:46.11 | Merry | Related to who?!?!? |
| 15:46.20 | sussudio | that's a yes, then |
| 15:46.25 | Merry | No |
| 15:46.30 | Merry | WHo's Doug? |
| 15:46.33 | Merry | BZDoug? |
| 15:46.37 | captain_proton | nkist: its -supposed- to be created when gtkgl is built |
| 15:46.55 | Merry | brb, potty break....... |
| 15:46.56 | sussudio | Merry: you seem to make similar contributions to this channel |
| 15:46.59 | captain_proton | pkgconfig is nice, but sometimes irritating |
| 15:47.04 | Merry | Yes I do |
| 15:47.16 | nkist | hmm |
| 15:47.17 | nkist | ok |
| 15:47.18 | Merry | POTTY BReAK! |
| 15:47.20 | Merry | I think |
| 15:47.29 | bryjen | I've seen Merry _play_ bzflag tho |
| 15:47.30 | Merry | I'm not sure if I do contribute |
| 15:47.37 | sussudio | Merry: exactly |
| 15:47.42 | Merry | Last night! :-) |
| 15:47.59 | Merry | Who's Doug? |
| 15:48.12 | Merry | Which Doug are you talking about? |
| 15:48.27 | bryjen | ~whois bzdoug |
| 15:48.28 | | hmm... bzdoug is someone that wishes he were like TimRiker |
| 15:48.28 | sussudio | Merry: bzdoug, 15, annoying, in the middle of nowhere, kentucky |
| 15:48.44 | Merry | I know him. |
| 15:48.55 | Merry | Why? |
| 15:49.25 | sussudio | Merry: you're not going to go "LOLOLOLOL", are you? |
| 15:50.12 | Merry | Look sussudio, stop making fun of me. |
| 15:50.20 | Merry | Why would I anyways? |
| 15:50.38 | captain_proton | sussudio: cut it out, you're not contributing anything to the channel right now either |
| 15:51.02 | Merry | What's he talking about? Me not contributing? What's that mean? |
| 15:51.14 | Merry | You're confusing me, that's all. |
| 15:52.03 | Merry | I'm sorry if I've said stuff off the subject. I wasn't really serious at that point. |
| 15:52.11 | Merry | Sorry. :-*( |
| 15:52.31 | captain_proton | Merry: ignore him |
| 15:52.36 | Merry | K |
| 15:54.28 | Merry | Anyways, what where you talking about, me related to bzdoug? |
| 15:54.34 | Merry | I'm not related to him. |
| 15:54.38 | Merry | I know him. |
| 15:54.46 | Merry | I've played with him before, too. |
| 15:56.48 | captain_proton | Merry: doug is extremely rarely on topic when he's talking in here, and so it comes off as noise |
| 15:57.14 | nkist | ld: can't locate file for: -lgtkgl-2.0 |
| 15:57.40 | captain_proton | aha, thats because your library is called gtkgl.a, not gtkgl-2.0.a ;) |
| 15:57.55 | captain_proton | didn't i say you'd need to hack the pkgconfig file? |
| 15:58.11 | nkist | I did some hacking |
| 15:58.20 | captain_proton | sounds like you need to do a bit more |
| 15:58.29 | nkist | heh |
| 15:58.50 | Merry | I'm going to be BZEditing. |
| 15:58.59 | nkist | have fun compiling it |
| 15:59.40 | Merry | I'll try, it isn't working very well |
| 15:59.50 | captain_proton | nkist: she's on windows, no compiling necessary |
| 15:59.57 | nkist | oh |
| 15:59.58 | nkist | ok |
| 16:00.25 | nkist | ld: /sw/lib/libgtkgl.a(gdkgl.o) illegal reference to symbol: _XFree defined in indirectly referenced dynamic library /usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib |
| 16:00.30 | nkist | I think I'm going to be breaking things soon |
| 16:00.41 | captain_proton | hrm |
| 16:01.20 | nkist | or, alternatively rewriting the damned thing in aqua |
| 16:01.28 | captain_proton | hehe |
| 16:01.46 | nkist | what file format is used? |
| 16:02.08 | captain_proton | it just reads and writes directly to bzflag worlds |
| 16:02.48 | nkist | bzflag worlds.. |
| 16:04.17 | captain_proton | its a pretty simple flat-text format |
| 16:05.25 | Merry | lol |
| 16:05.39 | captain_proton | yep, that'll work |
| 16:05.48 | captain_proton | the graphical editors are nice because you can see it as you work |
| 16:06.05 | Merry | It's sorta like secret place, except it's not |
| 16:06.14 | Merry | In the air it is on the ground it isn't |
| 16:06.19 | *** join/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@3E6B486F.aalb.stofanet.dk) |
| 16:06.26 | bryjen | vi and graph _paper_ |
| 16:06.42 | Merry | Hey dmp! |
| 16:06.48 | [dmp] | hi |
| 16:07.14 | Merry | how are ya |
| 16:07.23 | Merry | Sup? |
| 16:08.03 | [dmp] | slightly pissed :-) |
| 16:08.33 | bryjen | annoyed or intoxicated ? |
| 16:09.08 | sussudio | probably annoyed while trying to get intoxicated..... they have about 1000% tax on top of alcohol in denmark |
| 16:09.10 | [dmp] | annyed. |
| 16:09.20 | [dmp] | +o. |
| 16:09.43 | [dmp] | almost failed this semeste because of the lack of groupwork :-( |
| 16:09.55 | Merry | why dmp? |
| 16:10.01 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@208.48.199.214) |
| 16:10.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 16:10.50 | [dmp] | Two people have dont what 5 people is supposed to do. We had no group as such. |
| 16:11.31 | *** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@216.188.65.26) |
| 16:11.52 | [dmp] | I just cant help thinking that i might have failed, because those !"#(" didnt take it seriously. THey would rather go working, go home early - instead of getting stuff done :-|. |
| 16:12.05 | [dmp] | Oh I pass. whee.. I now i know who not to team up with :) |
| 16:14.10 | Merry | Hey Patyo |
| 16:14.33 | Merry | Failed what? |
| 16:14.46 | bryjen | hehe Patty O'labor |
| 16:15.03 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 16:15.04 | [dmp] | Merry: the exam |
| 16:15.15 | bryjen | sorry, man. couldn't resist. |
| 16:17.40 | Merry | dmp: what kind of exam? |
| 16:21.10 | [dmp] | Merry: discrete math .. |
| 16:21.17 | Merry | ohh |
| 16:22.27 | [dmp] | Merry: Anyway, i passed. And got vacation now :) |
| 16:22.35 | Patlabor221 | is that math you hide from your wife? |
| 16:22.50 | Merry | Good job |
| 16:22.59 | [dmp] | jep, got a seeeeeeexy book full of kinky numbers. |
| 16:23.14 | Merry | I love math :-) seexy? Is that a bad word? |
| 16:23.41 | Patlabor221 | all words can be bad when taken in proper context |
| 16:23.59 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:24.04 | Merry | oh so it is bad? |
| 16:24.11 | Merry | Hey, niddy nidhoggr |
| 16:24.17 | Nidhoggr | hiya |
| 16:24.19 | Patlabor221 | that's up to you |
| 16:25.33 | Merry | ohhhhhhhhhh |
| 16:25.44 | Merry | bye |
| 16:26.05 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:26.18 | Nidhoggr | I need to start working on a map again, now that I got windows xp almost working. |
| 16:27.05 | sussudio | Nidhoggr: can you put something else than spirals on secretplace? |
| 16:27.19 | Nidhoggr | sussudio... I've been thinking about it. |
| 16:27.31 | Nidhoggr | people like that map a lot, for some reason. |
| 16:27.40 | sussudio | ... |
| 16:27.51 | sussudio | people like getting stuck in teleporters? |
| 16:27.52 | Nidhoggr | I have a ctf version of Megadome :) |
| 16:28.10 | Nidhoggr | it's pretty fun |
| 16:28.18 | Patlabor221 | cap, I' |
| 16:28.20 | Nidhoggr | I think I'm the only one who likes it though. |
| 16:28.20 | Patlabor221 | bah |
| 16:28.21 | bryjen | proton's not excatly omnipresent. but he's almost always here -- usualy twice! |
| 16:28.46 | bryjen | ooops that's everpresent. multipresent? |
| 16:28.56 | Nidhoggr | they perscribed gel at night for my dry eye problem. :( actually has to be spread under my eyelids |
| 16:29.08 | bryjen | ick |
| 16:29.11 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 16:29.17 | Nidhoggr | it's only bad in my right eye. |
| 16:29.21 | Patlabor221 | cap, I'm gonn add some more bouncys to the rabbit run map, how did you like the teleporters? do you think that the boxes they are on should have some breaks in them so people can't play "tp bounce" hideing thing? |
| 16:29.24 | Nidhoggr | side effect of lasik |
| 16:29.54 | sussudio | i got a bunch of unreleased maps |
| 16:30.23 | Nidhoggr | I think people like the openness of spirals. |
| 16:30.24 | bryjen | the pac-man-ping-pong just leads to camping. that'll learn 'em. |
| 16:31.03 | Nidhoggr | megadome is fun for shooting bullets into the building |
| 16:31.14 | Patlabor221 | well I was thinging of just breaking those boxes that the porters are on , into 3 boxes, so there were like 2 "slots" in the thing, so you could get thru it |
| 16:31.42 | Patlabor221 | or maybe a bridge thing, like the "H" shaped prts |
| 16:32.03 | bryjen | or at least shoot thru. rico'ing around the corner is too far |
| 16:32.22 | Patlabor221 | I'm gonna put some more of those little boxes around for rico |
| 16:33.02 | JBDiGriz | I thought I hit bryjen a couple of times with a rico around the corner, and I like those little boxes you added! |
| 16:33.29 | Patlabor221 | yeah you can nail someone with a corner rico, it' just hard |
| 16:33.34 | Nidhoggr | here's a question... if I use a script to make a login page on bzflag.secretplace.us, will the md5 hash passwords work in a standard htpasswd file? |
| 16:33.51 | Nidhoggr | so... I create the password file dynamically from the user/password files on bz |
| 16:33.56 | bryjen | You said the boxes are 10m tall? I think I usually do 15. more time to aim as they jump up at me ;) |
| 16:34.09 | sussudio | i mostly do them at 12 |
| 16:34.19 | Patlabor221 | ther are 3 height levels, 5 10 and 15 |
| 16:34.37 | Patlabor221 | the little boxes are 5 |
| 16:34.47 | JBDiGriz | Should we add a delay before someone becomes the rabbit, one time I jumped, shot the rabbit, became the rabbit, and was shot as I landed. |
| 16:34.47 | Patlabor221 | the porters and the "H"s are 10 |
| 16:35.07 | Patlabor221 | naw that's part of the fun :) |
| 16:35.21 | bryjen | you fly, you die ;) |
| 16:35.26 | Merry | lol |
| 16:35.32 | Patlabor221 | it |
| 16:35.33 | JBDiGriz | It was funny when it happened, just unexpected |
| 16:35.40 | Patlabor221 | it's suposed to be very fast |
| 16:36.13 | Nidhoggr | maybe it's time to do a map contest for secretplace. |
| 16:36.20 | sussudio | Merry: when your fps drops below 50 is a good time |
| 16:36.25 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:36.28 | Patlabor221 | or when it's done |
| 16:36.41 | Patlabor221 | if that happens before the frame drop :) |
| 16:36.49 | Patlabor221 | or when you say "ohhhh I 'll add my name" |
| 16:36.51 | Merry | fps? I don't think I'm done wwith it |
| 16:37.04 | Merry | add my name to what? |
| 16:37.04 | sussudio | Nidhoggr: why don't you put up a rotating server like jzaun had? |
| 16:37.21 | Patlabor221 | if you write your name in boxes in the map, |
| 16:37.28 | Nidhoggr | sussudio... I could. I also have dragon.org, which I keep as a 2 shot server, and sometimes a ctf server. |
| 16:37.28 | Patlabor221 | aka pull a doug |
| 16:37.52 | Merry | How do I do that? |
| 16:37.54 | sussudio | meh i was the first to write stuff.... even if it was "bubu sux" |
| 16:38.03 | Patlabor221 | well doug overuses it |
| 16:38.04 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:38.16 | Patlabor221 | merry don't, it's a waste of boxes :) |
| 16:38.24 | sussudio | Merry: you write your name using pyramids and or boxes |
| 16:38.31 | Merry | I'm not going to |
| 16:38.56 | Merry | When this map is done, I'm going to send it in on sats |
| 16:38.59 | Merry | .bzflag |
| 16:39.01 | Merry | .org |
| 16:39.18 | Merry | Only if you could see it Pat |
| 16:39.18 | Nidhoggr | I am debating... a $100 prize for first and a $50 prize for second, or just one $150 first prize? |
| 16:39.28 | sussudio | Nidhoggr: meh? |
| 16:39.32 | Nidhoggr | map contest |
| 16:39.37 | Merry | $150 first prize :-D |
| 16:39.41 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:39.49 | Patlabor221 | if you can't see it then they are a bigger waste, since they are still processed :) |
| 16:39.51 | Merry | The more money the better ;-) |
| 16:39.59 | sussudio | money bad |
| 16:40.19 | Merry | No, only if you could look at it, and see what it looks like. |
| 16:40.20 | Nidhoggr | i was thinking that I could require the person to be registered user on secretplace, and use web interface to vote. |
| 16:40.40 | sussudio | Merry would just waste it on avril lavigne merchandise |
| 16:40.43 | Merry | I bet it isn't going to win, but oh, well, worth the trying.:-) |
| 16:40.51 | Merry | NO WAY! |
| 16:40.58 | Nidhoggr | I've been considering a contest for a few months |
| 16:41.01 | Merry | I would save it up for a dog |
| 16:41.15 | sussudio | or you could just buy a leg first |
| 16:41.39 | Patlabor221 | sussudio could get a new Whitesnake t-shirt and maybe get a trim for the mullet :) |
| 16:41.49 | Merry | Uh, I'd rather have the whole dog |
| 16:41.49 | sussudio | urk whitesnake |
| 16:41.50 | Nidhoggr | ROFL |
| 16:42.12 | Merry | Grrrrr, growl, bark, yap, ruf, whimper, (ect.) |
| 16:43.08 | sussudio | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:43.17 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:43.18 | Merry | Your falt |
| 16:46.45 | Merry | heello |
| 16:46.47 | Merry | ?? |
| 16:48.01 | Merry | Done for the day\ |
| 16:49.42 | Merry | byr |
| 16:49.44 | Merry | bye |
| 16:49.53 | *** part/#bzflag Merry (~merry@adsl-68-73-117-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 16:51.06 | Nidhoggr | now I just gotta wait til larsl makes the new bzadmin changes for the 1.7 servers. :) |
| 16:51.26 | Nidhoggr | I can script kicks/bans for offensive callsigns, etc. |
| 16:52.36 | prot-work | yay i'm here |
| 16:52.47 | Nidhoggr | hi capt |
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| 16:57.24 | Mayhem | Greetings all |
| 16:58.49 | [dmp] | hey mayhem |
| 17:00.37 | sussudio | omg that was funny. |
| 17:00.45 | sussudio | the kicking g2 does to cheaters. |
| 17:01.00 | Mayhem | sussudio: do tell |
| 17:01.09 | sussudio | oh it's a known cheater..... doom hunter |
| 17:01.14 | sussudio | he was kicked in about 0.5 seconds |
| 17:01.17 | sussudio | 5 times in a row |
| 17:01.24 | sussudio | and "super super" |
| 17:10.25 | sussudio | the map i have on now made baby jesus' gf2 cry |
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| 17:11.02 | Ryuku | ibot: bzflist |
| 17:11.27 | prot-work | you know there are web pages for that... |
| 17:11.55 | Ryuku | sory |
| 17:12.14 | Chestal | heh, that's on topic at least :-) |
| 17:14.01 | *** part/#bzflag Ryuku (Ryuku@dialup-67.30.253.244.Dial1.Atlanta1.Level3.net) |
| 17:14.30 | prot-work | Chestal: heh...it gets a little silly when people come to irc, do a bzflist and leave |
| 17:14.33 | prot-work | like ryuku just did |
| 17:14.53 | Chestal | prot-work: well, I agree when you join to do it |
| 17:15.08 | Chestal | btw., bzfquery.pl must be fixed for new protocol :-) |
| 17:15.30 | prot-work | indeedy |
| 17:15.45 | prot-work | though its better to wait |
| 17:15.50 | prot-work | in case more big things change |
| 17:15.54 | prot-work | like...enet |
| 17:16.07 | Chestal | prot: don't know whether you have noticed, I made use of the BUGS file to communicate fresh bugs, like those introduced with the rabbit mode. Think it's better than to use the tracker for this, as it might goaway very fast |
| 17:16.29 | prot-work | Chestal: eh...i like the trackers |
| 17:16.31 | prot-work | it emails me :) |
| 17:16.37 | Chestal | wah |
| 17:16.39 | Chestal | too much hassle |
| 17:16.56 | Chestal | IMHO using the BUGS file is convinient |
| 17:17.13 | Chestal | sometimes we implement a new feature now and know it has some problems, so we can do it in this file |
| 17:17.23 | Chestal | makes things move faster |
| 17:18.23 | Chestal | I noticed there is a protocol description in the Wiki |
| 17:18.31 | Mayhem | Chestal: Yes, I've been doing that... |
| 17:18.32 | Chestal | seems to be newer than the one in CVS? |
| 17:18.37 | prot-work | Chestal: yes |
| 17:18.53 | Mayhem | have done the player ids, about to do rabbit hunt |
| 17:19.08 | prot-work | Mayhem: i dunno if the radio stuff is in that doc, it can be removed |
| 17:19.21 | Mayhem | prot-work: its not in there. |
| 17:19.33 | prot-work | k |
| 17:19.52 | Mayhem | flag-negotiation is in there, but I don't know if its correct :) |
| 17:20.04 | prot-work | ooh |
| 17:21.06 | Mayhem | Chestal: I assume that when the protocol settles down the wiki page will update the protocol.txt in cvs |
| 17:21.17 | Chestal | I used the special player ids from 1.8 more or less, guess that should go into the protocl doc as well |
| 17:21.35 | Chestal | along that change, I also got read of the 'team' in MsgMessage |
| 17:21.40 | Chestal | eh, 'got rid' |
| 17:21.44 | prot-work | well - it would be nice if there were different documents for things like that |
| 17:21.55 | prot-work | since special player ids aren't really part of the protocol, but the game engine |
| 17:22.06 | Chestal | hmm, well, that's debatable :-) |
| 17:22.11 | prot-work | heh |
| 17:22.19 | Chestal | only some messages make use of them for now |
| 17:22.23 | prot-work | we'll just have one monster document that describes everything about the project and call it protocol |
| 17:22.29 | prot-work | we can fold DEVINFO into there too |
| 17:22.32 | Chestal | I guess only MsgMessage and MsgRabbit, and the latter only uses NoPlayer |
| 17:22.48 | prot-work | NoPlayer is 0? |
| 17:23.22 | Chestal | no, 255 |
| 17:23.36 | Chestal | 0-199 are valid player ids |
| 17:23.44 | Chestal | 255 downwards are the magic ones |
| 17:23.50 | prot-work | the rest of the code uses 0 as NoPlayer |
| 17:23.58 | Chestal | where? |
| 17:24.00 | prot-work | first player is assigned at [1] |
| 17:24.03 | prot-work | bzfs, etc |
| 17:24.11 | Chestal | nope, at 0, I changed that because it made nosense |
| 17:24.25 | prot-work | you got rid of all the literals that were lying around? |
| 17:24.25 | Chestal | after all, the id is the array index |
| 17:24.35 | Chestal | not sure, where are they? |
| 17:24.45 | prot-work | there were a few littered around bzfs.cxx |
| 17:24.48 | Chestal | I'm only aware of the rabbit |
| 17:25.42 | Chestal | the paleryid handling is still not 100% clean |
| 17:25.58 | Chestal | it's also a bit confusing now and then |
| 17:26.17 | Chestal | because there isn't a very clear distinctin between index and id, they're supposed to be the same anyway |
| 17:27.16 | Chestal | there stil lseems to be some code in there tohandle the two different types of player ids inthe server |
| 17:27.32 | Chestal | and of course, still multicast relaying messages, didn't dare to touch any of these yet |
| 17:30.17 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: |
| 17:30.17 | CIA | Status: |
| 17:30.18 | CIA | Vendor Tag:tcvs-vendor |
| 17:30.18 | CIA | Release Tags:tcvs-release |
| 17:30.54 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Directory /cvsroot/bzflag/bzeditw32/BZEdit32 added to the repository |
| 17:30.59 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Directory /cvsroot/bzflag/bzeditw32/Inc added to the repository |
| 17:31.05 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Directory /cvsroot/bzflag/bzeditw32/Libs added to the repository |
| 17:31.09 | Patlabor221 | adding bzedit to sf cvs |
| 17:31.10 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Directory /cvsroot/bzflag/bzeditw32/PocketEngine added to the repository |
| 17:31.14 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Directory /cvsroot/bzflag/bzeditw32/TextureMngr added to the repository |
| 17:31.17 | prot-work | i see |
| 17:31.20 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Directory /cvsroot/bzflag/bzeditw32/_test added to the repository |
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| 17:32.04 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Directory /cvsroot/bzflag/bzeditw32/Libs/Debug added to the repository |
| 17:32.09 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Directory /cvsroot/bzflag/bzeditw32/Libs/Release added to the repository |
| 17:32.29 | Patlabor221 | ick it's gonna pick them all up? |
| 17:32.38 | Patlabor221 | well this should move us up the list :) |
| 17:32.50 | learnerAtWork | cool, pat -- added your bzflag sources? |
| 17:32.57 | Patlabor221 | bzedit |
| 17:33.04 | Patlabor221 | will be bzeditw32 module |
| 17:33.07 | learnerAtWork | read what I mean, not what I write |
| 17:33.13 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 17:34.35 | Patlabor221 | now to make sure I get the binary files, binary |
| 17:35.46 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: |
| 17:35.46 | learnerAtWork | yes.. those screwy windows line endings.. |
| 17:35.55 | Patlabor221 | any OS |
| 17:36.02 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 17:36.11 | Patlabor221 | unix to mac would screw files too |
| 17:36.18 | Patlabor221 | all 10's would be made 13's |
| 17:36.39 | prot-work | well..old mac |
| 17:37.05 | learnerAtWork | obsolete mac |
| 17:37.12 | scanline | bagel mac |
| 17:37.16 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Directory /cvsroot/bzflag/bzeditw32/BZEdit32/res added to the repository |
| 17:37.25 | Patlabor221 | still, it could happen |
| 17:37.45 | Patlabor221 | so now you have 2 line endings to deal with on the mac? eww |
| 17:37.50 | *** join/#bzflag KR (~k@cae168-234-054.sc.rr.com) |
| 17:37.50 | learnerAtWork | yep -- now to get the linux one merged with yours... :) |
| 17:37.55 | KR | hi all |
| 17:38.05 | scanline | Hi Dr. Nick! |
| 17:38.42 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Directory /cvsroot/bzflag/bzeditw32/_test/data added to the repository |
| 17:38.52 | prot-work | learnerAtWork: well...iirc 2.1 and his shared some drawing code at some point |
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| 17:39.05 | prot-work | it was preventative to combine them into one source tree because his is a steaming pile of MFC |
| 17:39.33 | nkist | Hello everyone |
| 17:39.56 | KR | hi |
| 17:39.57 | Mayhem | + MsgNewRabbit player is relinquishing rabbitship <--- is that a word? |
| 17:40.04 | Patlabor221 | but my steaming pile of mfc has more features then yours does :) |
| 17:40.20 | Mayhem | ~dict rabbitship |
| 17:40.23 | Chestal | apropso word, 'annoint' isn't a word, it's in bzfs |
| 17:40.25 | Patlabor221 | the best thing would be to use the scralwness |
| 17:40.32 | prot-work | Patlabor221: heh |
| 17:40.32 | Mayhem | ~dict anoint |
| 17:40.40 | KR | rabbitship down? :) |
| 17:40.43 | prot-work | my next version was gonna be damn cool |
| 17:40.45 | prot-work | but oh well |
| 17:40.50 | Mayhem | KR: good book that :) |
| 17:40.55 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Texture Man: Inital Add |
| 17:41.01 | nkist | compiling bzflag 1.7g2 on panther isn't going to well either :( |
| 17:41.05 | KR | yes |
| 17:41.14 | nkist | lots of errors like this: |
| 17:41.15 | nkist | ../../include/config.h:67:1: warning: "_BSD_SOCKLEN_T_" redefined |
| 17:41.17 | learnerAtWork | nkist: ??? |
| 17:41.21 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: PocketEngine: For great Justice!!! |
| 17:41.35 | learnerAtWork | ah -- that's easy enough; remove the define |
| 17:41.36 | nkist | but at least it hasn't crapped out yet :) |
| 17:41.45 | nkist | in config.h? |
| 17:41.49 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: BZedit: Inital Add |
| 17:41.53 | Patlabor221 | what OS? |
| 17:41.59 | learnerAtWork | yes nkist |
| 17:42.06 | nkist | macosx 10.3 panther (unreleased) |
| 17:42.36 | nkist | would it hurt to let the compile finish? |
| 17:42.40 | nkist | its pretty nice |
| 17:42.43 | Patlabor221 | change your config.h to say that socken_T_ is defined |
| 17:42.43 | prot-work | its a unix kernel, with something that almost looks a little like unix! |
| 17:42.51 | Patlabor221 | there that should do it for the editor |
| 17:43.02 | prot-work | nkist: should compile fine if those are just warnings |
| 17:43.10 | nkist | yeah |
| 17:43.17 | learnerAtWork | nkist: let it finish |
| 17:44.04 | learnerAtWork | os x required sockle_t to be defined to "int" to enable a compatibility mode header include |
| 17:44.21 | learnerAtWork | apparently they "fixed" that in 10.3 |
| 17:44.36 | learnerAtWork | or gcc 3.3 |
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| 17:44.51 | nkist | ok |
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| 17:45.01 | nkist | why "fixed" |
| 17:47.05 | learnerAtWork | it wasn't exactly broken, and it wasn't gone |
| 17:47.32 | learnerAtWork | BSD_SOCKLEN_T should not need to be defined, and now it doesn't so: it's fixed |
| 17:47.55 | scanline | OS X does a lot of weird things |
| 17:48.03 | scanline | they renamed header files for no good reason, for example |
| 17:49.28 | learnerAtWork | they tried to carve away a slew of old bsd/sysv compatibility libraries that they didn't want people using any more |
| 17:49.42 | learnerAtWork | the ones with the most complaints have been readded since.. |
| 17:49.58 | prot-work | it makes porting a pain in the ass |
| 17:50.04 | learnerAtWork | indeed |
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| 17:51.50 | nkist | what annoys me a lot is some of the weird terminal stuff |
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| 17:54.08 | ak|ra | hi |
| 18:11.05 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: texture lib build issue, fixed blow on close, and updated to f12 version for release |
| 18:12.33 | ak|ra | Patlabor221: what kind of lib? |
| 18:13.34 | Patlabor221 | the texture one :) |
| 18:13.45 | Patlabor221 | was just copying to the wrong place |
| 18:13.48 | Patlabor221 | all fixed |
| 18:14.18 | ak|ra | ah, the problem we saw the day? |
| 18:14.23 | ak|ra | the ugly textures? |
| 18:14.28 | ak|ra | with the wrong alpha? |
| 18:14.31 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 18:14.37 | Patlabor221 | that wasn't for the BZFlag module |
| 18:14.42 | ak|ra | ah ok |
| 18:14.45 | Patlabor221 | be nice if cia showed the module |
| 18:14.52 | Patlabor221 | that was for BZEditW32 |
| 18:16.07 | Patlabor221 | I have not seen the texture thing in BZ dupe |
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| 19:54.57 | learnerAtWork | does ibot have a command to see where someone was last seen on a field (seen |
| 19:55.10 | learnerAtWork | seen tells when they were last on irc |
| 19:55.27 | Mayhem | dmp's server has a 'seen' function |
| 19:55.37 | Mayhem | as do a few other places... |
| 19:55.47 | learnerAtWork | I thought I've seen ibot do it |
| 19:55.54 | learnerAtWork | or perhaps noodlebot |
| 19:58.06 | [dmp] | ~seen [dmp] |
| 19:58.06 | | [dmp] is currently on #bzflag (3h 51m 47s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 0s |
| 19:58.10 | [dmp] | this one? |
| 19:58.41 | learnerAtWork | sort of |
| 19:58.58 | learnerAtWork | I remember seeing one that would say [dmp] was last seen on bzgirl.bzflag.org ... |
| 19:59.09 | bzgirl | http://stats.bzflag.org/directory.php?PHPSESSID=c93e379251641d9acd795da3f9dcdce2 |
| 19:59.15 | bzgirl | type a name in there |
| 19:59.30 | [dmp] | http://bzflag.baat.dk/new/seen.php can also :) |
| 19:59.44 | [dmp] | but that would only be for the servers the ladder monitors. |
| 19:59.48 | learnerAtWork | yes yes... thank you girl. |
| 19:59.51 | learnerAtWork | and dmp |
| 20:00.22 | learnerAtWork | I don't want to swap over to a browser.. :) |
| 20:01.00 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: What OS are you saddled with currently? |
| 20:01.15 | learnerAtWork | I have a plentitude around me |
| 20:01.25 | [dmp] | learnerAtWork: i take that as a challenge :-) |
| 20:01.42 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 20:02.23 | learnerAtWork | I have solaris, irix, os x, and linux (redhat) within reach |
| 20:02.32 | learnerAtWork | oh, and windows -- but I rarely touch that thing |
| 20:02.38 | [dmp] | :) |
| 20:02.53 | JBDiGriz | So clicking on an icon to bring up a browser is prohibitive? |
| 20:02.56 | [dmp] | I think my next computer is gonna be a mac.. or a laptop |
| 20:03.10 | learnerAtWork | lol, extremely detrimental to my workflow jb |
| 20:03.11 | JBDiGriz | dmp: It could be both. |
| 20:03.19 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 20:03.37 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: You need a bigger monitor! :{) |
| 20:03.56 | learnerAtWork | I'd like a quad g5 laptop if it could be made to not incinerate my legs |
| 20:04.06 | learnerAtWork | heck, a quad anything laptop |
| 20:04.07 | prot-work | that |
| 20:04.10 | prot-work | 'd be damn heavy |
| 20:04.31 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Easy to make that, just get longer cables to move it away from your legs. |
| 20:04.34 | [dmp] | JBDiGriz: Yeah, but i doubt that i can afford it.. |
| 20:05.06 | learnerAtWork | and running BeOS (may it rest in peace) |
| 20:05.14 | JBDiGriz | dmp: Depends what you want, and who you can get to pay for it! ;) |
| 20:06.16 | [dmp] | JBDiGriz: :-) |
| 20:06.26 | JBDiGriz | prot-work: Marketing always has final say. They never released the PowerMac as the BHA machine. |
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| 20:10.28 | prot-work | you are in a maze of twisty IPC links, all alike |
| 20:11.11 | learnerAtWork | go north |
| 20:11.25 | Patlabor221 | cap and others, opions on this for the corner of the rabbit map with the porters, http://www.bakadigital.com/imates/newcorner.jpg |
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| 20:12.03 | Patlabor221 | damn |
| 20:12.03 | learnerAtWork | s/t/g/ |
| 20:12.06 | Patlabor221 | I am out of it today |
| 20:12.21 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Did you bring up a browser window? |
| 20:12.33 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/images/newcorner.jpg |
| 20:12.38 | learnerAtWork | heh, grudgingly |
| 20:13.08 | learnerAtWork | so, pat, you changed the ability to shoot under the wall? |
| 20:13.26 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:13.35 | Patlabor221 | more places for a bounce in there too |
| 20:13.40 | learnerAtWork | i like it, that corner was a pain |
| 20:14.00 | Patlabor221 | yeah that's what I noticed |
| 20:14.13 | Patlabor221 | that it was a common hiding spot |
| 20:14.40 | learnerAtWork | it was also interesting to see that most of the kills ended up near the middle of the map |
| 20:15.02 | learnerAtWork | most of the corners (where you spawned) were eventually devoid of flags |
| 20:15.13 | JBDiGriz | Rabbits need some hiding spots, The leaping over that middle block in order to take out the rabbit has also become interesting. |
| 20:15.37 | Patlabor221 | yeah it was |
| 20:15.53 | Patlabor221 | there are places, like in and anround the "H" structures |
| 20:16.07 | Patlabor221 | I'm adding more "Cover" too |
| 20:16.40 | JBDiGriz | I've noticed some of the more interesting battles take place around those "H" structures. The cover on top adds a lot, and the rico underneath is quite good! |
| 20:16.50 | nkist | is there a battle going on right now? |
| 20:17.39 | Patlabor221 | yeah that's what I wanted, battles like that |
| 20:17.56 | JBDiGriz | That wide open area under the tporters is going to make it difficult for the rabbit to leap through. It's almost a guaranteed death on landing. |
| 20:18.14 | JBDiGriz | Perhaps a little more opportunity for rico there. |
| 20:18.32 | Patlabor221 | I'm addings stuff around there now |
| 20:19.44 | JBDiGriz | Your map has forced me to appreciate the use of A. |
| 20:20.46 | JBDiGriz | On a completely separate subject, I found an interesting anomaly in play yesterday. |
| 20:21.17 | Patlabor221 | good, A needs to be used more :) |
| 20:21.17 | learnerAtWork | I think the flag needed a little more than v and a, though |
| 20:21.30 | JBDiGriz | I was traveling along, about to pick up a flag, shot at someone, picked up the flag, which turned out to be O, and promptly killed myself! |
| 20:22.21 | Patlabor221 | O? |
| 20:22.24 | Patlabor221 | you mean V? |
| 20:22.25 | nkist | anyone want to go and try rabbit hunt? |
| 20:22.32 | Patlabor221 | did you run into your shot? |
| 20:22.54 | JBDiGriz | Obese, evidently the shot wasn't far away enough so that when I expanded, the collision was detected. |
| 20:23.12 | nkist | lets get a few other people also |
| 20:23.16 | Patlabor221 | LOL, fatass :) |
| 20:23.30 | JBDiGriz | That probably wasn't where it hit me! :) |
| 20:23.30 | Patlabor221 | is that a bug? |
| 20:23.52 | JBDiGriz | That's why I call it an anomaly. I'm not sure either. |
| 20:23.55 | learnerAtWork | let pat finish his new map, then you bunnies can go test it :) |
| 20:24.00 | nkist | cool |
| 20:27.39 | Patlabor221 | hows this |
| 20:27.40 | Patlabor221 | http://www.bakadigital.com/images/runrabbitrun2.jpg |
| 20:28.31 | nkist | I don't know, maybe some more low cover? |
| 20:28.50 | nkist | having 10 people hunting one person would seem to be a good moment to get some cover going |
| 20:29.55 | learnerAtWork | i like it |
| 20:30.22 | learnerAtWork | looks like you added a few extra small blocks? |
| 20:31.01 | Patlabor221 | yeah I did |
| 20:31.06 | Patlabor221 | and some more angled ones |
| 20:31.17 | Patlabor221 | you wana run that? |
| 20:31.30 | prot-work | its refreshing to see a map author who actually takes play into consideration |
| 20:31.31 | learnerAtWork | yeah, the two behind the North/South "H" structures |
| 20:31.45 | Patlabor221 | yeah cust for some variation, and more bouncyness |
| 20:32.24 | learnerAtWork | I like it, enough to make rico matter, but still little chance for pot-luck double rico kills |
| 20:32.49 | Patlabor221 | www.bakadigital.com/RunRabbitRun.bzw |
| 20:35.26 | JBDiGriz | It will be interesting to see if the rabbit ever heads towards the tporters in the new version. It might be too hard to evade in the corners. |
| 20:36.47 | Patlabor221 | well they may, if just to get to the other side of themap fast |
| 20:36.54 | Patlabor221 | like if you are being tailed |
| 20:37.15 | Patlabor221 | it at least gets you off radar for a sec |
| 20:38.10 | Patlabor221 | and there are 3 pillars down there so it's not totaly open |
| 20:38.34 | JBDiGriz | Last night, bryjen and I learned to hang out at the opposite side, and nail the rabbit while landing. |
| 20:38.56 | learnerAtWork | that'll learn that rabbit right quick |
| 20:39.10 | JBDiGriz | bryjen was complaining about me! :{) |
| 20:40.08 | Patlabor221 | well see how it goes |
| 20:40.13 | Patlabor221 | this is the playtesting phase |
| 20:40.17 | learnerAtWork | has anyone noticed saturation on brlcad.org yet? |
| 20:40.26 | learnerAtWork | I don't know the ctf player cap yet |
| 20:40.53 | JBDiGriz | It was doing well last night, except for a brief moment of nr for many of the players |
| 20:41.07 | learnerAtWork | heheh, oops.. I know what that was |
| 20:41.10 | nkist | what server canI playest? |
| 20:41.12 | learnerAtWork | lemme shut that off |
| 20:41.46 | learnerAtWork | nkist: hold on.. recompiling |
| 20:42.50 | learnerAtWork | jeesh that's a lot of changes since last night.. |
| 20:43.53 | learnerAtWork | mkay |
| 20:44.01 | learnerAtWork | it's up and running now with the latest code |
| 20:44.09 | sussudio | * Resolved 80.212.87.230 to ti211310a080-6118.bb.online.no < cheater |
| 20:44.57 | JBDiGriz | What cheat did you detect? |
| 20:45.03 | sussudio | he was going speed 100 |
| 20:45.40 | sussudio | well that and he actually used the callsign "Cheater" |
| 20:45.54 | learnerAtWork | uh oh... server problems |
| 20:46.08 | learnerAtWork | who did this: PROGRAMMING ERROR: NOT USING DIRECT MESSAGE BUFFERPROGRAMMING ERROR: NOT USING DIRECT MESSAGE BUFFER |
| 20:46.27 | sussudio | Player Cheater [3] has joined from 80.212.87.230:24372 on 10 |
| 20:46.27 | Mayhem | getting nr problems |
| 20:46.43 | sussudio | Logging Player Cheater [3]: tank too fast (tank: 99.000462, allowed: 26.516504 |
| 20:46.43 | sussudio | Logging Player Cheater [3]: tank too fast (tank: 98.999698, allowed: 26.516504 |
| 20:46.43 | sussudio | Logging Player Cheater [3]: tank too fast (tank: 98.999937, allowed: 26.516504 |
| 20:47.01 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: I believe MAC was checking something like that in last night. |
| 20:47.04 | learnerAtWork | Boxedman was showing: Player Boxedman [1] shot playerid mismatch |
| 20:47.05 | sussudio | about 300 lines of that |
| 20:47.19 | nkist | learnerAtWork: thats me |
| 20:47.28 | nkist | I'm boxedman |
| 20:47.32 | nkist | and I was not cheating |
| 20:47.37 | nkist | I was using a high speed flag |
| 20:47.43 | learnerAtWork | do you have the latest client nkist? |
| 20:47.47 | Patlabor221 | if he sets his Z above 0 then he can speed all he wants |
| 20:47.50 | nkist | I'm cvs updateing now |
| 20:47.53 | sussudio | Player Soft [3] has joined from 80.212.87.230:24392 on 8 |
| 20:47.55 | learnerAtWork | mkay |
| 20:47.55 | Mayhem | nkist: we had problems with each other going nr |
| 20:48.05 | Patlabor221 | nkist, anon cvs is 1-2 days old |
| 20:48.06 | sussudio | i've seen Soft on a lot of servers. |
| 20:48.13 | nkist | should I get that? |
| 20:48.27 | Patlabor221 | get the snaps if you don't have ssh access |
| 20:48.29 | learnerAtWork | no, nkist -- get the latest snapshot |
| 20:48.44 | nkist | whre? |
| 20:48.55 | nkist | ah, the topic |
| 20:48.57 | sussudio | sfsnaps blahbluh |
| 20:49.41 | Mayhem | someone with the current cvs want to join me? |
| 20:50.07 | JBDiGriz | Mayhem: I'll be there in about 4 hrs. ;) |
| 20:50.27 | Mayhem | great... I'll wait :p |
| 20:50.30 | nkist | I'm getting it now |
| 20:50.37 | learnerAtWork | I'll be there in just a jiffy -- gimme about 4 hours too |
| 20:50.45 | nkist | give me 10 mins |
| 20:51.13 | learnerAtWork | same problems with "booger" |
| 20:51.21 | Mayhem | might be me... |
| 20:52.11 | learnerAtWork | it might just be unfinished code |
| 20:55.33 | sussudio | :-P |
| 20:59.00 | Patlabor221 | you wear shoes to work? |
| 20:59.08 | learnerAtWork | usually flip-flops |
| 21:00.02 | *** kick/#bzflag [Mayhem!~jeffm@208.48.199.214] by Patlabor221 (whump this :)) |
| 21:00.02 | *** join/#bzflag Mayhem (~Mayhem@dsl-217-155-141-174.zen.co.uk) |
| 21:00.38 | Patlabor221 | no that would be a ban :) |
| 21:01.07 | learnerAtWork | ~dict whump |
| 21:02.03 | Mayhem | ~dict gangrene |
| 21:02.36 | Mayhem | uh, bzgirl, you might wanna get that looked at. 'Necrosis' sounds kinda scary. |
| 21:04.00 | sussudio | YIKES |
| 21:04.03 | learnerAtWork | bye bye |
| 21:04.19 | sussudio | ok if you shoot yourself with the latest sfsnap, bzflag crashes |
| 21:04.22 | *** join/#bzflag ak|ra (~mathias@p50883465.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:04.22 | *** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@216.188.65.26) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:04.23 | *** join/#bzflag prot-work (~jupiter@161.97.199.99) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 21:04.37 | Mayhem | I shot myself ok, but couldn't see anyone |
| 21:08.00 | Mayhem | why does the client have to notify the server when it is no longer the rabbit, can't the server work that out from the killed message? |
| 21:08.15 | learnerAtWork | apparently dbrosius was the last to change bzfs.cxx |
| 21:08.42 | learnerAtWork | not clear what is going on in the directmessagebuffer |
| 21:08.51 | learnerAtWork | don't people know how to comment their code?? |
| 21:09.40 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: That's MAC |
| 21:11.14 | learnerAtWork | that comment complaint isn't directed at him specifically, mind you -- most of the code is uncommented |
| 21:12.16 | learnerAtWork | makes jumping in a real pain en el trasero |
| 21:13.00 | nkist | I got my client compiled |
| 21:13.03 | nkist | anyone want to play? |
| 21:13.32 | sussudio | doesnt c++ have an exit pointer like turbopascal, where a program -always- exits, even when it segfaults? |
| 21:13.41 | learnerAtWork | go ahead and try and shoot yourself, nkist -- see how it works |
| 21:13.57 | learnerAtWork | if not, I'm going to back up the server a few commits |
| 21:14.06 | Mayhem | I can shoot myself happily all day :) |
| 21:14.23 | JBDiGriz | Mayhem: TMI |
| 21:15.13 | learnerAtWork | still getting those errors |
| 21:15.14 | Mayhem | TMI? |
| 21:15.25 | JBDiGriz | Too Much Information |
| 21:15.31 | learnerAtWork | I need a way to send a "system" message to the bzserver |
| 21:15.41 | learnerAtWork | like "System will be going down in 2 minutes" etc |
| 21:16.02 | learnerAtWork | of "You've been kicked because you are being a dumb*ss" |
| 21:16.06 | learnerAtWork | or |
| 21:17.00 | nkist | learnerAtWork: weird |
| 21:17.12 | learnerAtWork | what happened? |
| 21:30.40 | *** join/#bzflag ibot (ibot@208.186.182.172) |
| 21:30.40 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://www.cafeshops.com/bzflag || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || http://bzbb.bzflag.org (forums) || g2 released 2003-06-17 || Subversive planning for the next release http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/WorkInProgress || everyone please debug playerid changes for a while || anoncvs sucks, so here are some snapshots: http://sfsnap.babylonia.flatirons.org/ |
| 21:30.41 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 21:32.16 | prot-work | bryjen: sort of |
| 21:32.31 | Chestal | with the old player ids, there was no such thing as a null player id, right? |
| 21:33.01 | prot-work | Chestal: i think all fields = 0 meant null player |
| 21:33.07 | prot-work | or magic self player |
| 21:33.10 | bryjen | Chestal got to digging into that to determine what to set rabbitIndex to when there's no rabbit |
| 21:33.30 | bryjen | prot-work: my server logs Player foo [0] has joined from.... |
| 21:33.43 | *** part/#bzflag ak|ra (~mathias@p50883465.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:33.48 | Chestal | bryjen: to NoPlayer, which is 255, that should all be working |
| 21:33.57 | Chestal | (assumign everyone is using uptodate client and server) |
| 21:34.53 | prot-work | bryjen: server as of when? |
| 21:35.05 | prot-work | if its newish, Chestal broke it |
| 21:35.13 | prot-work | if its too old, it was before i had fixed it |
| 21:35.21 | Chestal | 1.7 code started with index 0 in the server, and I don't remember it had some magic 'no player slot' |
| 21:35.44 | Chestal | so I really think the only part of the server that tried to use slot 0 for 'no player' is the rabbit stuff (as it was before I changed it) |
| 21:35.59 | bryjen | just saying that an index of 0 seemed to be vaild |
| 21:36.20 | prot-work | but the server in some places still treats 0 as self or no-player |
| 21:36.23 | bryjen | s/vaild/valid |
| 21:36.35 | prot-work | at least i don't think Chestal caught that stuff, since he was just doing rabbit stuff |
| 21:36.47 | Chestal | prot: 'still'? Did you introduce this when you went to new playerid? |
| 21:37.03 | bryjen | prot-work: I'm running g2 now. lemme double check some |
| 21:37.49 | bryjen | prot-work: 1.7g2 logs players joining as 0 |
| 21:37.50 | learnerAtWork | there was only a small piece of offending code that broke the game |
| 21:37.58 | learnerAtWork | it was related to direct messaging: |
| 21:38.06 | learnerAtWork | < void *bufStart = (char *)msg - 2*sizeof(short); |
| 21:38.06 | learnerAtWork | < |
| 21:38.07 | learnerAtWork | < if (bufStart != sMsgBuf) { |
| 21:38.07 | learnerAtWork | < DEBUG1("PROGRAMMING ERROR: NOT USING DIRECT MESSAGE BUFFER"); |
| 21:38.07 | learnerAtWork | < memmove(getDirectMessageBuffer(), msg, len); |
| 21:38.09 | learnerAtWork | < bufStart = sMsgBuf; |
| 21:38.19 | learnerAtWork | < } |
| 21:39.14 | Chestal | that's just a newly introduced safety fallback |
| 21:40.36 | nkist | sleep well everyone |
| 21:40.38 | prot-work | bryjen: ohh |
| 21:40.47 | prot-work | g2 is VERY different with respect to player ids |
| 21:40.53 | *** part/#bzflag nkist (~nkist@3eea1525.cable.wanadoo.nl) |
| 21:41.36 | bryjen | not player[].id but the index of the player[] array |
| 21:41.38 | learnerAtWork | Chestal: that safety fallback breaks gameplay for some reason |
| 21:41.50 | doughecka | poor learnerAtWork :P |
| 21:41.55 | prot-work | bryjen: ok, start over now |
| 21:42.00 | prot-work | what is your problem? |
| 21:42.16 | *** join/#bzflag larsl_56k (~larsl@md469097a.utfors.se) |
| 21:42.18 | Chestal | learner: uhm, it should never becoem active, strange |
| 21:42.30 | Chestal | learner: did you see the Debug message? |
| 21:42.38 | learnerAtWork | got a lot of "PROGRAMMING ERROR: ..." messages, yes |
| 21:43.01 | bryjen | prot-work: I'm not having a problem. Sorry if I confused the discussion somewheres |
| 21:43.24 | prot-work | bryjen: ok then. stop talking about playerids in g2 when we're talking about playerids in 1.9 ;) |
| 21:43.53 | bryjen | prot-work: Gladly. :) on to 1.9 |
| 21:44.10 | Chestal | learner: strange. Actually that code _is_ wrong, but it should still work :-) |
| 21:44.39 | bryjen | When you say playerid, are you referring to the index for the array or something else ? |
| 21:45.05 | prot-work | in 1.9 the playerid and the index are the same |
| 21:45.06 | larsl_56k | The index, and some special values for all players, teams, server etc. |
| 21:46.23 | learnerAtWork | if anyone is testing on brlcad.org, lemme know -- it's running rev 1.172 instead of HEAD for bzfs.cxx |
| 21:46.28 | bryjen | as much ;) |
| 21:48.13 | *** join/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@3E6B486F.aalb.stofanet.dk) |
| 21:48.20 | learnerAtWork | hehe, dmp |
| 21:49.55 | *** join/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@3E6B486F.aalb.stofanet.dk) |
| 21:50.25 | Chestal | hmm, one problem with directmessage is MsgShotBegin |
| 21:50.28 | [dmp] | learnerAtWork: try !lseen somename |
| 21:50.35 | Chestal | it recycles the recv buffer |
| 21:51.26 | Chestal | but I _think_ it does it in a correct way. But it still uses a different buffer from the standard one of course |
| 21:51.49 | Chestal | so the server spews out lots of warnings |
| 21:51.56 | Chestal | I don't see why it souhldn't work, though |
| 21:52.33 | larsl_56k | directmessage? |
| 21:53.11 | Chestal | the function in bzfs.cxx |
| 21:53.40 | Chestal | we must change this mess |
| 21:55.29 | sussudio | ... |
| 22:01.23 | bryjen | is the lastest snapshot borken then? I've got one from early this morning that works. Should I just stick with it for now? |
| 22:01.58 | Chestal | server is broken now |
| 22:02.44 | bryjen | ah Ok. Thx Chestal. |
| 22:08.25 | learnerAtWork | [dmp]: did you get that twisted pipe thing working? |
| 22:08.30 | learnerAtWork | ~lseen learner |
| 22:08.55 | learnerAtWork | !lseen learner |
| 22:08.55 | [dmp] | learnerAtWork: saw learner on ducati.bzflag.org:5156 at Sat Jun 28 01:53:02 2003 |
| 22:09.05 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 22:09.14 | learnerAtWork | nice |
| 22:09.31 | doughecka | !who are you? |
| 22:10.02 | larsl_56k | !lseen Lars |
| 22:10.03 | [dmp] | larsl_56k: saw Lars on xmission.bzflag.org:5155 at Sun Jun 29 23:25:07 2003 |
| 22:10.15 | doughecka | everybody knows hes a really small shell script :P |
| 22:10.38 | learnerAtWork | ah, but what will I do when [dmp] is gone.. :( |
| 22:11.00 | Patlabor221 | patch up ibot |
| 22:11.03 | doughecka | hehe |
| 22:11.18 | larsl_56k | Are the dates coming from the ladder script? |
| 22:11.19 | Patlabor221 | add it as bzseen |
| 22:11.26 | doughecka | ooh, my boss notified me that I get to go into work at 5:30 |
| 22:12.45 | Chestal | !lseen chestal |
| 22:12.46 | [dmp] | Chestal: saw Chestal on ducati.bzflag.org:5156 at Sun Jun 29 20:51:02 2003 |
| 22:12.54 | learnerAtWork | nice quick response |
| 22:13.04 | learnerAtWork | !lseen bzg |
| 22:13.05 | [dmp] | learnerAtWork: saw bzg on ducati.bzflag.org:5156 at Mon Jun 30 19:14:01 2003 |
| 22:13.36 | Chestal | k, I'll remove the bogus check again |
| 22:13.45 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 22:14.19 | doughecka | !lseen bzdoug |
| 22:14.19 | [dmp] | doughecka: saw bzdoug on bzflag.closedprojects.net:18200 at Thu Jun 5 21:39:15 2003 |
| 22:14.30 | doughecka | huh, I was on ducati a few min ago |
| 22:14.33 | doughecka | slow thing |
| 22:14.39 | learnerAtWork | gonna have way too much fun with that.. |
| 22:14.40 | Patlabor221 | sure you were |
| 22:15.22 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 22:15.36 | [dmp] | this is odd. just played bzflag, and when i get back i see that i've wrote stuff :-) |
| 22:15.45 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 22:15.56 | learnerAtWork | your multitasking rather well |
| 22:16.06 | JBDiGriz | Now you have to add team names to that script, so learner can search for any members of his team with one command! :{) |
| 22:16.11 | [dmp] | yeah. i didnt even notice it myself :) |
| 22:16.26 | bryjen | maybe we cloned you ;) |
| 22:16.45 | [dmp] | JBDiGriz: cool idea :) |
| 22:17.14 | [dmp] | bryjen: if im cloned. tell me to work on the league site, while i play with xchat scripting :) |
| 22:18.22 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: good thinking.. :) |
| 22:19.35 | CIA | commit by chestal: remove programmer protection in directMessage() again because there is at least one call which does not use getDIrectMessageBuffer() for optimization purposes (I guess); this is MsgShotBegin; instead, added a comment |
| 22:27.15 | *** join/#bzflag mmu_man (~revol@ALyon-209-1-31-167.w81-249.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:33.12 | [dmp] | oops.. forgot a join bewteen a tbale that contains 25.000 rows and the other 1.6 mio rows :) No wonder my query is slow. |
| 22:33.49 | *** join/#bzflag iLLf8d (~neener@user-0can1b0.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 22:33.53 | iLLf8d | lo all |
| 22:34.10 | iLLf8d | can someone tell me if its tcp/udp 5155 and udp 5156? |
| 22:34.12 | iLLf8d | for server |
| 22:34.29 | iLLf8d | or is it tcp/udp 5155 and tcp 5156 |
| 22:35.07 | Chestal | ill: the latter I think (for 1.7) |
| 22:35.22 | iLLf8d | thanks |
| 22:36.35 | iLLf8d | i'm setting up another server like at xmission |
| 22:36.47 | iLLf8d | the cheats and tks are getting to me |
| 22:37.04 | larsl_56k | iLLf8d: If it doesn't have GM and L I'll play there. =) |
| 22:37.20 | iLLf8d | not that I wanna keep you outta there but gms are good =) |
| 22:37.30 | iLLf8d | its gonna be a ctf field |
| 22:37.38 | iLLf8d | i'm planning on keying it I think |
| 22:38.07 | larsl_56k | ~bzflist |
| 22:38.21 | larsl_56k | Is there a bzflist for 1.9 servers? |
| 22:39.48 | iLLf8d | is there even a 1.9? |
| 22:39.53 | sussudio | ok, i will rephrase my question from a while ago; is there an exit point in the c++ structure, like in turbopascal, where a program will -always- exit through, even with a segfault, and if there is, can you restore the gamma there? |
| 22:40.51 | larsl_56k | iLLf8d: CVS. |
| 22:41.00 | learnerAtWork | is there an automatic exit point? no you could setjump at the beginning or have a catch-all exception system set up |
| 22:41.14 | learnerAtWork | but program can still crash on a whim |
| 22:41.20 | sussudio | snort. |
| 22:41.29 | learnerAtWork | lol |
| 22:41.55 | sussudio | port bzflag to bash? :-| |
| 22:42.02 | larsl_56k | What happens when a turbopascal program crashes? |
| 22:42.17 | learnerAtWork | ouch |
| 22:42.21 | sussudio | larsl_56k: if you had an exit pointer defined, it would always exit through there. |
| 22:42.30 | JBDiGriz | sh! |
| 22:42.33 | sussudio | so you could close any files or do whatever there |
| 22:42.34 | learnerAtWork | I liked the gentle prodding much more |
| 22:43.00 | JBDiGriz | I thought you liked being "poked" :) |
| 22:43.26 | *** join/#bzflag BZSpiff (~BZSpiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 22:43.45 | learnerAtWork | you can catch SIGSEGV on unix platforms (and any other signal for that matter) to exit gracefully, but that only works for systems that do signals (i.e. not windows) |
| 22:43.50 | BZSpiff | I'm quite curious....... can something be done about this person (or persons) that are screwing up the stats.bzflag.org scoreboard? |
| 22:44.02 | BZSpiff | They're obviously cheaters.. and it sucks for the rest of us with high scores. |
| 22:45.20 | BZSpiff | It's not the scoreboard, it's the principle. And I wasn't really talking to you. :-) |
| 22:45.20 | learnerAtWork | is that what you mean sussudio? |
| 22:45.46 | learnerAtWork | that's what private messages are for, if it's not public ;) |
| 22:45.50 | BZSpiff | Yeah.... sounds like you were saying "I'd really have to try to care less". |
| 22:46.03 | learnerAtWork | i think he was |
| 22:46.41 | sussudio | learnerAtWork: well gamma is sorta irrelevant under linux, it messes up under windows |
| 22:46.48 | learnerAtWork | ah |
| 22:47.05 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-227-234.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 22:47.12 | sussudio | i can restart X without rebooting but not the Windows WM :-| |
| 22:47.31 | learnerAtWork | I know it has the same, signal equivalent catching, sussudio -- but I don't recall what they are; have to find a windows "expert" |
| 22:49.18 | learnerAtWork | ugh -- I do not like Tcl .. |
| 22:49.39 | DTRemenak | sussudio: I didn't catch the first part of the conversation, but to restart just the windows part of windows (it'll still kill all processes that aren't in autoexec.bat), you can hit start->shutdown, set it to restart, and hold down shift while clicking OK |
| 22:49.52 | learnerAtWork | that's one language I'd be happy not knowing as well as I do |
| 22:50.47 | learnerAtWork | wow, DTRemenak. I haven't heard someone say that in years.. win2k support that too? |
| 22:50.52 | DTRemenak | I think so |
| 22:51.00 | DTRemenak | NT4 did |
| 22:51.36 | DTRemenak | it avoids a physical reboot of the machine, which is handy if you have a massive RAID array or something that takes a long time to detect |
| 23:01.22 | iLLf8d | hmm anyone know if you ahve to supply a bzflag list server now? |
| 23:01.28 | iLLf8d | seems mines not connecting properly |
| 23:01.43 | iLLf8d | wondering if its firewall or settings |
| 23:02.58 | larsl_56k | ~bzflist |
| 23:03.15 | Chestal | ill: http://BZFlag.SourceForge.net/list-server.txt works for me |
| 23:03.25 | larsl_56k | iLLf8d: Try -list default. |
| 23:03.40 | larsl_56k | If your config file is borken. |
| 23:03.45 | TimRiker | ~nslookup delphi.mvista.com |
| 23:03.50 | Chestal | ill: needs outgoing port 80 of course |
| 23:04.15 | iLLf8d | my firewall keeps state so it should work |
| 23:05.07 | iLLf8d | this way you can vote your teamates off a ctf team |
| 23:05.09 | iLLf8d | =) |
| 23:06.32 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak_ (~DTRemenak@host-226-51.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 23:08.49 | *** join/#bzflag fiberchunks (~frobozzpf@237.14.252.64.snet.net) |
| 23:10.22 | BZSpiff | Hey fiber. :) |
| 23:10.32 | BZSpiff | How was your weekend? ;-) |
| 23:11.30 | iLLf8d | TimRiker: any chance I can get xmissions password to ban only flagrant cheaters and tks? |
| 23:11.43 | iLLf8d | ie guys respawning with gm continuously etc... |
| 23:12.06 | fiberchunks | very good thanks -- :) |
| 23:12.14 | fiberchunks | much drunkenness occurred |
| 23:12.16 | *** part/#bzflag DTRemenak_ (~DTRemenak@host-226-51.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 23:13.03 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 23:13.07 | BZSpiff | Is that good or bad? ;-) |
| 23:15.00 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (1000@ky-owensboro1a-242.owboky.adelphia.net) |
| 23:15.25 | CIA | larsl changed Patches 745567 (bzadmin: Curses-based text client): |
| 23:15.29 | larsl_56k | New bzadmin for new and old protocol with the stuff from the last 1.9-only version in the patch tracker. |
| 23:15.31 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-226-51.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 23:16.23 | fiberchunks | oh, very, very good |
| 23:16.25 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 23:16.30 | fiberchunks | it was a lot of fun. |
| 23:18.04 | BZSpiff | Groovy. :) |
| 23:50.02 | learnerAtWork | !bzg |
| 23:50.16 | learnerAtWork | :( |
| 23:50.42 | bryjen | bzseen bzg |
| 23:50.55 | bryjen | ~bzseen bzg |
| 23:51.05 | bryjen | or not |
| 23:51.30 | bryjen | ibot: just plain seen [dmp] |
| 23:51.30 | | bryjen: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 23:51.53 | bryjen | one last time |
| 23:51.56 | bryjen | ~seen [dmp] |
| 23:51.56 | | [dmp] is currently on #bzflag (2h 2m 1s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 1h 18m 44s |
| 23:52.04 | bryjen | ah |
| 23:52.14 | learnerAtWork | ibot: eat learner |
| 23:52.15 | | ACTION eats learner and falls over dead |
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