| 00:13.09 | *** join/#bzflag Legolas (~Legolas@adsl-68-73-117-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 00:13.27 | Legolas | has anybody seen ski? |
| 00:13.35 | sussudio | ~seen ski |
| 00:13.39 | | ski <ski@pool-151-201-123-59.pitt.east.verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 4d 20h 36m 48s ago, saying: 'gnight all'. |
| 00:13.39 | Legolas | was he onanytime soon? |
| 00:13.50 | sussudio | ~seen ski-pig |
| 00:13.50 | | sussudio: i haven't seen 'ski-pig' |
| 00:14.03 | Legolas | pig? |
| 00:14.13 | sussudio | piiiiig |
| 00:14.19 | Legolas | why pig? |
| 00:14.48 | Legolas | ok |
| 00:14.51 | Legolas | cya |
| 00:14.56 | captain_proton | Legolas: sussudio has some strange obsession with pigs |
| 00:15.46 | Legolas | well,cya |
| 00:16.15 | Legolas | and thanks for calling my team captain a pig |
| 00:16.19 | *** part/#bzflag Legolas (~Legolas@adsl-68-73-117-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 00:20.31 | bryjen | ~seen Noodleman |
| 00:20.31 | | noodleman is currently on #bzflag (6h 29m 2s) |
| 00:24.22 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 00:25.31 | *** join/#bzflag rbergero (~rj@pcp02862192pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net) |
| 00:26.36 | *** part/#bzflag rbergero (~rj@pcp02862192pcs.manass01.va.comcast.net) |
| 00:34.00 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~jeffm@adsl-67-115-244-109.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net) |
| 00:34.00 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 01:05.44 | bryjen | ~dict hurl |
| 01:06.09 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 01:07.07 | *** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-63-204-107-181.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 01:07.10 | bryjen | utter with force. CoW launcher? |
| 01:07.49 | captain_proton | macgyver time! |
| 01:09.30 | bryjen | he's out wandering the galaxy now http://www.scifi.com/stargate/ |
| 01:10.03 | *** join/#bzflag Legolas (~Legolas@adsl-68-73-117-113.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 01:13.37 | bryjen | mechanical hackery, captain? |
| 01:15.29 | Patlabor221 | wow this is sad, the only extra ram I can find is DDR |
| 01:16.03 | Patlabor221 | eeeekkkk, or 16 meg edo 2 clock dimms |
| 01:16.33 | captain_proton | ooh random bad guy soldering |
| 01:17.16 | Patlabor221 | wow, cap this mobo wold make your wrech, socket 370 AND slot1 on the same board |
| 01:17.25 | Patlabor221 | its' AT and ATX at the same time |
| 01:17.41 | captain_proton | scary |
| 01:18.21 | Patlabor221 | but it has ram, bwhahahahah nothing is safe from the clutches of franken'puter |
| 01:18.49 | captain_proton | frankenputer? |
| 01:19.14 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 01:19.21 | Patlabor221 | Via C7 |
| 01:19.27 | captain_proton | yipes |
| 01:20.03 | bryjen | there's alway half-breed stuff like that tossed about when a new thing comes out. AT/ATX power connectors. socket and slot. |
| 01:20.24 | Patlabor221 | sadly frankenputer lacks the spark of life |
| 01:20.53 | bryjen | no PSU ? |
| 01:20.54 | Patlabor221 | Mr happy AMD XP 1900+ does not seem to like any flavor of linux |
| 01:21.01 | Patlabor221 | PSU? |
| 01:21.07 | bryjen | Power Supply Unit |
| 01:21.12 | Patlabor221 | ohh it's got one |
| 01:21.16 | Patlabor221 | stuff spins |
| 01:21.18 | Patlabor221 | no beep |
| 01:21.20 | Patlabor221 | no vid |
| 01:21.24 | Patlabor221 | makes me sad |
| 01:21.35 | captain_proton | its not quite as creepy as the SGI halfbreeds |
| 01:21.58 | bryjen | ah. brain dead. The good doctor makes the same mistake again. |
| 01:22.35 | Patlabor221 | lets see what we have here, P3 600 |
| 01:22.45 | Patlabor221 | eww Tseng labs video card |
| 01:22.48 | Patlabor221 | that will not do |
| 01:23.10 | bryjen | not a rebadged NV ? |
| 01:23.42 | bryjen | or have you unearthed the elusive 2D VGA ? |
| 01:24.37 | Patlabor221 | 2d vga |
| 01:24.46 | Patlabor221 | puting a GF2 ultra in it |
| 01:25.04 | Patlabor221 | Teseng labs lightspeed 128 :) |
| 01:25.37 | *** join/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net) |
| 01:26.04 | bryjen | hmmm, looks like ATI ate Tseng's graphics stuff |
| 01:27.15 | bryjen | in 1997. that's gotta be old. |
| 01:28.04 | Patlabor221 | yup |
| 01:28.11 | Patlabor221 | that is why i'ts going in the bin |
| 01:28.22 | *** part/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@81.68.128.15) |
| 01:31.20 | captain_proton | the bin? |
| 01:31.38 | bryjen | eep. forgot i'd left bz running on another desktop. |
| 01:32.12 | Patlabor221 | the bin |
| 01:32.18 | bryjen | hmm. I'm getting a stream of "You are now the rabbit" while paused. I'm the only player... |
| 01:32.21 | Patlabor221 | big pin o crap |
| 01:35.09 | captain_proton | bryjen: hm, makes sense |
| 01:35.16 | captain_proton | pause relinquishes rabbithood |
| 01:35.32 | bryjen | looked like it kept trying to give it back to me |
| 01:35.50 | bryjen | lemme check the date on my snapshot |
| 01:36.04 | bryjen | 2003-06-30-16.19.41 |
| 01:36.27 | bryjen | thats the latest one |
| 01:36.52 | learnerAtWork | I'm getting a lot of "Player JB DiGriz [1] shot playerid mismatch" messages |
| 01:36.58 | bryjen | JBDiGriz is there having odd things too |
| 01:37.14 | learnerAtWork | er, rather I'm seeing them spew from the server log |
| 01:39.04 | JBDiGriz | not surprising, bryjen just shot me and my client quit |
| 01:39.13 | captain_proton | hooray for angus macgyver |
| 01:39.49 | JBDiGriz | i just updated my client, i'm going to try yesterday's build |
| 01:39.56 | bryjen | i pause while i'm the only player (was rabbit) and the message box scrolls "bryjen: is now the rabbit" |
| 01:40.30 | bryjen | learnerAtWork: JB said messages were screwey too. |
| 01:41.05 | JBDiGriz | yesterday's build is even worse. it doesn't have bryjen's name |
| 01:41.07 | learnerAtWork | oops, not about you guys -- something else F*CKING infected IIS machines |
| 01:41.43 | bryjen | isn't that almost redundant ? infected IIS |
| 01:41.44 | learnerAtWork | my server log shows over 500 unique IP connection attempts for iis exploits |
| 01:41.58 | bryjen | hehe Internet Infection Server |
| 01:42.38 | learnerAtWork | going to auto-add those badboys to my firewall.. |
| 01:43.28 | *** join/#bzflag michaelh2 (Mouse@171-248.dynamic.visi.com) |
| 01:44.25 | bryjen | learnerAtWork: what date of server are you running? |
| 01:45.14 | learnerAtWork | huh? |
| 01:45.17 | bryjen | grr client lock |
| 01:45.24 | learnerAtWork | I run apache |
| 01:45.33 | JBDiGriz | I actually shot you as your client left |
| 01:45.43 | learnerAtWork | I just hate seeing other bogus crap hitting my servers and wasting my cpu cycles |
| 01:45.46 | JBDiGriz | I suspect it was the same behavior I saw |
| 01:45.54 | bryjen | isn't brlcad.org your bzfs ? |
| 01:46.15 | bryjen | what ver/date of _that_ server ? |
| 01:46.45 | learnerAtWork | ah, heheh, sorry -- I'm in another world right now |
| 01:46.55 | learnerAtWork | it's listed on the server listing |
| 01:47.01 | bryjen | ah. |
| 01:47.07 | learnerAtWork | it's a build from about an hour or so ago |
| 01:47.14 | learnerAtWork | latest cvs |
| 01:47.44 | bryjen | built Jun 30 16:44:43 EDT |
| 01:47.45 | learnerAtWork | want me to roll it back to revision 1.172 again? |
| 01:47.59 | learnerAtWork | ok, I've been at work longer than I thought |
| 01:48.03 | bryjen | its doing wierd stuff |
| 01:48.07 | learnerAtWork | that's 5 hours ago |
| 01:48.40 | michaelh2 | bleh |
| 01:48.53 | learnerAtWork | there are no cvs updates since I last built |
| 01:48.58 | learnerAtWork | so it's the latest |
| 01:49.07 | learnerAtWork | want me to roll it back? |
| 01:49.22 | bryjen | sfsnaps are MDT |
| 01:49.23 | michaelh2 | roling rolling rolling .. keep them doggies rolling............. |
| 01:49.27 | michaelh2 | rawhide |
| 01:49.33 | michaelh2 | da da da daaaaa |
| 01:50.00 | bryjen | Are you sure that's the latest? |
| 01:50.06 | learnerAtWork | positive |
| 01:50.10 | bryjen | Otay |
| 01:50.27 | bryjen | Borkage then? |
| 01:50.34 | learnerAtWork | borkage |
| 01:51.13 | learnerAtWork | try again now |
| 01:51.21 | learnerAtWork | rolled it back to 1.172 |
| 01:51.43 | michaelh2 | is the server still in the one big honking file format? |
| 01:52.04 | bryjen | bzfs.cxx |
| 01:52.23 | michaelh2 | just curious |
| 01:52.27 | learnerAtWork | yes it is |
| 01:52.42 | bryjen | JBDiGriz: ? |
| 01:52.43 | learnerAtWork | I have a version with some of it separated out, but it's not ready to commit |
| 01:53.13 | michaelh2 | most important things I would imagine are things in common with the client..... |
| 01:53.15 | learnerAtWork | bryjen, poke him -- it'll get his attention better |
| 01:53.52 | learnerAtWork | ah.... |
| 01:54.03 | learnerAtWork | now those buggers won't pesker my server any more... |
| 01:54.06 | learnerAtWork | ipfw add 10481 deny ip from 68.84.216.166 to any in |
| 01:54.06 | learnerAtWork | ipfw add 10482 deny ip from 68.84.46.167 to any in |
| 01:54.09 | learnerAtWork | ... |
| 01:54.38 | michaelh2 | till they shift their butt to another computer ... |
| 01:54.45 | learnerAtWork | cron job |
| 01:54.51 | learnerAtWork | auto updates |
| 01:54.57 | bryjen | ipconfig /renew |
| 01:56.00 | learnerAtWork | most aren't live attempts, they are infected servers trying to propagate |
| 01:57.02 | bryjen | burn, baby, burn! |
| 01:57.21 | michaelh2 | so they like are saying "hey baby! hey baby!" |
| 01:58.16 | bryjen | JBDiGriz: try again. the server that is |
| 01:58.25 | JBDiGriz | ok, |
| 02:00.06 | learnerAtWork | hehe :) |
| 02:00.40 | learnerAtWork | bryjen, reconnect |
| 02:00.44 | bryjen | kicked for teamkilling! |
| 02:01.00 | JBDiGriz | That was strange |
| 02:01.03 | learnerAtWork | hmmm... |
| 02:01.06 | bryjen | yes |
| 02:01.19 | learnerAtWork | well, different bug apparently |
| 02:01.37 | JBDiGriz | bugs, between the callsign problem and tk kick |
| 02:01.50 | learnerAtWork | going back to latest unless you guys object |
| 02:02.01 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.28 | bryjen | showed a big negative number for a moment |
| 02:02.45 | michaelh2 | cooool |
| 02:03.12 | bryjen | team births ? ;) |
| 02:03.16 | learnerAtWork | that's not good |
| 02:03.36 | learnerAtWork | uninitialized data or memory corruption |
| 02:04.31 | bryjen | not having any other problems here. corruption would be local to my client program |
| 02:04.47 | learnerAtWork | latest is back up |
| 02:05.22 | bryjen | started with 0 in that field |
| 02:05.46 | bryjen | not a TK for the rabbit to kill himself. |
| 02:08.35 | JBDiGriz | That was interesting, killing myself on the current server kills the client. |
| 02:08.58 | bryjen | I joined first. seemed OK. JB joins. is OK for a sec, then goes NR. to him, the chat labels were messed up. mine were OK. |
| 02:09.21 | michaelh2 | sooo .. bzflag.exe is now BZFLAG.EXE :) |
| 02:10.42 | JBDiGriz | I was able to shoot myself when I was the only one there. |
| 02:10.51 | bryjen | Me too |
| 02:11.18 | bryjen | Did you segfault? |
| 02:11.37 | JBDiGriz | No, the client kept going and acted correctly. |
| 02:11.47 | bryjen | heh |
| 02:12.05 | learnerAtWork | hmmm.. it'll be interesting to see if 500 ip bans in my firewall affect gameplay performance |
| 02:12.14 | JBDiGriz | It looks like more playerid problems. |
| 02:14.05 | bryjen | not getting the right (this id) = (this player). and maybe one of them pointing to invaild info |
| 02:14.38 | bryjen | invaild is invalid |
| 02:15.26 | *** join/#bzflag NonDeer (Mouse@172-160.dynamic.visi.com) |
| 02:15.31 | JBDiGriz | Can you sign in again for a second, I want to try something |
| 02:15.36 | bryjen | ok |
| 02:15.57 | NonDeer | completely locked up my computer when I exited.. after joining the game |
| 02:17.57 | Michaelh | I think it said illegal operation.. but the entire machine was frozen.. usually when bz crashes it doesn't show anything at all and just dumps back to the desktop |
| 02:18.04 | bryjen | michaelh: that's been happening to people on exit |
| 02:18.17 | Michaelh | unix too? |
| 02:18.27 | bryjen | crashing at least. don't know if they get hard locks. |
| 02:18.51 | bryjen | i've had one or to program freezes on linux at exit |
| 02:18.51 | learnerAtWork | I'm still seeing this: "Player JB DiGriz [1] shot playerid mismatch" |
| 02:19.27 | bryjen | learnerAtWork: looks like the playerids are fubar. the names labeling the chat messages aren't always right |
| 02:19.50 | learnerAtWork | I think one of the two of you may not be using the latest?? |
| 02:20.00 | bryjen | JBDiGriz: debugging? |
| 02:20.07 | Michaelh | I *just* downloaded the source |
| 02:20.14 | Michaelh | from sourceforge |
| 02:20.20 | learnerAtWork | but things are still jacked up |
| 02:20.26 | learnerAtWork | what do you mean you downloaded? |
| 02:20.37 | Michaelh | well -- CVSified |
| 02:20.40 | learnerAtWork | snapshot or anon cvs? |
| 02:20.43 | learnerAtWork | or ssh cvs? |
| 02:20.47 | Michaelh | ssh |
| 02:20.53 | bryjen | I've got the snapshot labeled 2003-06-30-16.19.41 |
| 02:20.54 | learnerAtWork | ah, ok |
| 02:21.12 | learnerAtWork | wait -- michael, you're not on brlcad.org.. I meant bryjen and jb |
| 02:21.18 | Michaelh | so how does one snapshotified |
| 02:21.30 | bryjen | michaelh's on his own. JBDiGriz and I have been on the brlcad server |
| 02:21.32 | learnerAtWork | that's looks right bryjen |
| 02:22.03 | Michaelh | so you guys are preserving versions on that server too? |
| 02:22.04 | learnerAtWork | jb should have latest cvs as well.. hmmmm |
| 02:22.23 | learnerAtWork | bugger all, I dunno. |
| 02:22.48 | Michaelh | heh |
| 02:22.55 | bryjen | there are snapshots at http://sfsnap.babylonia.flatirons.org/ for the non-ssh-able as anonymous cvs doth sucketh |
| 02:23.24 | Michaelh | hmm.. how is that? |
| 02:23.45 | Michaelh | doesn't update well? |
| 02:24.05 | learnerAtWork | sourceforge is borked |
| 02:24.13 | learnerAtWork | they are overloaded with activity |
| 02:24.20 | learnerAtWork | and have hardware problems |
| 02:24.28 | Michaelh | so anonymous given less resources? |
| 02:24.42 | learnerAtWork | they're only updating anonymous cvs servers once a day |
| 02:25.00 | Michaelh | woah |
| 02:25.09 | learnerAtWork | ah, someone removed the link |
| 02:25.19 | learnerAtWork | look at the sourceforge site status page |
| 02:25.27 | learnerAtWork | er, cvs status page |
| 02:25.34 | learnerAtWork | check for june 15 or something |
| 02:26.43 | JBDiGriz | Sorry, I was looking at gdb for a second. I just did a cvs update about an hour ago |
| 02:28.49 | Michaelh | can't expect too much from "free" after all :) |
| 02:30.23 | JBDiGriz | The crash is a problem with team changing, so it's probably related to playerid as well |
| 02:34.58 | learnerAtWork | Michaelh: huh? |
| 02:35.49 | Michaelh | I mean sourceforge |
| 02:35.57 | learnerAtWork | ah |
| 02:35.59 | learnerAtWork | yes |
| 02:40.37 | Michaelh | who is "Player" ? |
| 02:42.46 | learnerAtWork | ~seen Player |
| 02:42.47 | | learnerAtWork: i haven't seen 'player' |
| 02:43.53 | learnerAtWork | ah.... now bryjen is player[1] and ends up posting "Player bryjen [1] shot playerid mismatch" |
| 02:44.12 | learnerAtWork | that'd be a communication problem with player[0] then |
| 02:44.13 | Michaelh | fu bar |
| 02:49.01 | learnerAtWork | definately a player[0] issue ... if the code were commented better, I'd be more inclined to dig for the bug |
| 02:49.10 | learnerAtWork | right now, that is |
| 02:49.29 | Michaelh | so is it the server then? |
| 02:50.08 | learnerAtWork | communication problem -- probably server and client, maybe just server |
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| 03:03.58 | learnerAtWork | cool... |
| 03:04.04 | learnerAtWork | got bzadmin compiled on OS X |
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| 03:13.02 | captain_proton | wow...learner going home? this early? is he sick? |
| 03:17.32 | bryjen | early? |
| 03:17.51 | captain_proton | it seems like he's often still there as i'm going to bed |
| 03:18.23 | bryjen | md.comcast.net. MarylanD ? |
| 03:19.39 | scanline | Morth Dakota? |
| 03:20.00 | bryjen | 'cause they didn't want to be called North anymore ;) |
| 03:20.03 | captain_proton | bryjen: i think so |
| 03:21.21 | bryjen | his bzbb says Maryland |
| 03:21.33 | bryjen | bzbb profile even |
| 03:23.16 | bryjen | Whatta mess that was. "Let's not call it North anymore 'cause it discourages tourists. They hear North and think cold." |
| 03:23.30 | bryjen | Well duh, guys, guess what? |
| 03:30.18 | scanline | Now tourists can visit the beautiful sunny state of Morth! |
| 03:31.34 | bryjen | ~dict morth |
| 03:31.45 | bryjen | I didn't think so |
| 03:32.50 | bryjen | ~dict mirth |
| 03:33.04 | bryjen | ah. that one might be fun :) |
| 03:37.38 | JBDiGriz | learner is in Maryland, he just works late! |
| 03:37.50 | bryjen | wery |
| 03:38.31 | JBDiGriz | bryjen: have you tried ducati 1.9 today? It's running an older server |
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| 04:00.30 | iLLf8d | hmm |
| 04:00.40 | iLLf8d | anyone know how to get around the malformed address on a ban? |
| 04:00.56 | iLLf8d | get around meaning I can't set the ban |
| 04:01.07 | iLLf8d | anyway to figure out the right one for the ban? |
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| 04:08.15 | MrApathyCream | i farkin love the modified GM sound |
| 04:11.49 | iLLf8d | oh yeah? |
| 04:11.50 | iLLf8d | hmm |
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| 04:23.12 | CIA | davidtrowbridge changed Bugs 659091 (BZFlag intermittently locks Windows XP.): Category->'None' Assigne->'to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody)' |
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| 04:33.34 | MrApathyCream | tag your turn |
| 04:33.46 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: more strings |
| 04:33.56 | captain_proton | trumps? |
| 04:33.59 | scanline | hooray, strings! |
| 04:34.11 | MrApathyCream | ~trumps |
| 04:34.34 | MrApathyCream | the act of upping one's 'opponent' |
| 04:34.44 | learner | ~dict trump |
| 04:34.48 | MrApathyCream | --commits-- |
| 04:35.02 | captain_proton | j00 @rE n0w +HE R4BB1T. |
| 04:35.05 | learner | sounds like you're tooting your own horn.. :) |
| 04:35.24 | captain_proton | heh |
| 04:36.59 | MrApathyCream | ne one for rabbit? |
| 04:37.51 | learner | rabbit's sick (as of 2 hours ago, at least) |
| 04:37.54 | learner | player[0] issues |
| 04:39.35 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: a rabbit timer for each player would be nice |
| 04:39.55 | scanline | is that bigger or smaller than an egg timer? |
| 04:40.21 | MrApathyCream | smaller, but after a few days, you need thousands of them |
| 04:41.11 | MrApathyCream | learner: what player[0] issues? |
| 04:41.38 | learner | jb and bryjen tried to play for quite some time earlier |
| 04:42.00 | learner | player[0] ended up not being able to see everyone else |
| 04:42.15 | learner | and text-chat was "wrong" |
| 04:42.58 | learner | i.e. player[0] would see messages he sends as if they were from player[1] and player[1] would see player[0]'s messages as from (unknwon) |
| 04:43.07 | learner | or something like that |
| 04:43.11 | learner | :| |
| 04:43.49 | MrApathyCream | captain_proton: are we supposed to be using 0? or is that reserved |
| 04:43.50 | learner | all clients and the server were the latest cvs |
| 04:44.20 | captain_proton | MrApathyCream: well - i had it reserved, Chestal borked it when he sucked in the special playerids from 1.8, in which 0 is the first player |
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| 04:45.35 | learner | how's the beos port coming along? |
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| 04:54.09 | MrApathyCream | um this is wrong |
| 04:54.10 | MrApathyCream | static TeamColor PlayerIdToTeam(PlayerId id) |
| 04:54.10 | MrApathyCream | { |
| 04:54.10 | MrApathyCream | if (id >= 246 && id<=250) |
| 04:54.10 | MrApathyCream | return TeamColor(250 - id); |
| 04:54.10 | MrApathyCream | else |
| 04:54.12 | MrApathyCream | return NoTeam; |
| 04:54.14 | MrApathyCream | } |
| 04:54.16 | MrApathyCream | static PlayerId TeamToPlayerId(TeamColor team) |
| 04:54.18 | MrApathyCream | { |
| 04:54.20 | MrApathyCream | if (team == NoTeam) |
| 04:54.22 | MrApathyCream | return NoPlayer; |
| 04:54.24 | MrApathyCream | else |
| 04:54.26 | MrApathyCream | return 250-team; |
| 04:54.28 | MrApathyCream | } |
| 04:54.30 | MrApathyCream | Rabbit team is 245 |
| 04:55.32 | learner | hmm.. that implies Rabbit is no team and NoPlayer |
| 04:56.08 | learner | that might explain the plethora of playerID mismatches the server responded with |
| 04:57.06 | MrApathyCream | well, it's only if you did a send to team and you were the rabbit |
| 04:57.18 | learner | these were in the server logs: "Player JB DiGriz [1] shot playerid mismatch" |
| 04:58.42 | learner | that is displayed for any non-player[0] player (assumedly on a kill) |
| 05:01.40 | MrApathyCream | MsgShotBegin had an id in it that wasn't his |
| 05:01.46 | MrApathyCream | looking |
| 05:02.16 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: PlayerID 245 is the Rabbit 'team' |
| 05:06.34 | CIA | commit by dbrosius: ServerIDPLen no longer 8, in fact not needed |
| 05:07.14 | MrApathyCream | learner would be good to dump out what 't' was and what the playerid was in the firing info |
| 05:08.00 | MrApathyCream | bzfs.cxx line 5219 |
| 05:09.36 | learner | mkay, will do |
| 05:10.21 | *** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-63-204-107-181.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 05:11.30 | MrApathyCream | off to bed |
| 05:11.35 | learner | ack1 |
| 05:11.44 | learner | cream you!! |
| 05:12.11 | learner | what is "t"? |
| 05:19.09 | learner | I assume he maybe meant "buf"?? |
| 05:20.03 | captain_proton | probably shot.player |
| 05:20.53 | learner | kay, I'll print that as well |
| 06:25.01 | learner | cool deal |
| 06:25.07 | captain_proton | hm? |
| 06:25.39 | learner | the test server running now will write it's log out to http://brlcad.org/server.log and it'll periodically check for updates and recompile |
| 06:26.10 | learner | that way the server stays up to date, and those that are server-less can debug the server |
| 06:26.30 | captain_proton | neat |
| 06:26.42 | captain_proton | the debug output helps muchly |
| 06:26.56 | learner | yes, it's -d -d -d |
| 06:27.11 | learner | I didn't think network packet stuff was really useful |
| 06:28.47 | learner | as soon as my cvs key get's uploaded, the cvs update will be automatic, as well |
| 06:30.09 | JBDiGriz | hanging out until 2 in the morning again? |
| 06:30.13 | learner | I'll have the logs rotate twice a day |
| 06:30.17 | learner | howdy jb :) |
| 06:30.41 | JBDiGriz | how's it going? |
| 06:30.58 | learner | it's going well enough |
| 06:31.00 | learner | you? |
| 06:31.14 | JBDiGriz | i'm tiring quickly, i'll head to bed soon |
| 06:31.32 | learner | heh, I hear you -- me too |
| 06:31.43 | learner | I just wanted to get the automatic server update working first |
| 06:31.52 | JBDiGriz | any progress on the playerid issues? |
| 06:31.55 | learner | now it's working I believe |
| 06:32.11 | learner | um, good question -- apathy made a couple changes |
| 06:32.12 | JBDiGriz | any client updates, or only server? |
| 06:32.35 | learner | didn't pay attention to the client updates -- maybe |
| 06:33.14 | JBDiGriz | looks like the only change was in playing.cxx |
| 06:33.23 | learner | yes, team change |
| 06:33.33 | learner | player wasn't considering the rabbit team a team |
| 06:33.52 | JBDiGriz | strike that, i'm tired, and in the wrong dir |
| 06:34.13 | learner | hehe, playing.cxx did change, though |
| 06:34.32 | JBDiGriz | also a change to Address.h, but those seem like client issues |
| 06:35.17 | learner | ah, now I see what that scoreboard mod is.. |
| 06:35.26 | learner | it's team kills |
| 06:35.38 | learner | hrm |
| 06:36.36 | JBDiGriz | build succeeded, i'll try it for a sec |
| 06:36.49 | learner | cap, are there any ways to hook into CIA to get commit notification? |
| 06:37.22 | learner | mkay, jb -- I'll be in in a sec |
| 06:40.35 | JBDiGriz | client crashed when i was hit, |
| 06:40.53 | learner | wow |
| 06:41.00 | JBDiGriz | time to call it a night, and think about how to debug this tomorrow! |
| 06:41.02 | learner | you were completely invisble to me |
| 06:41.11 | learner | mkay, night jb |
| 06:41.22 | JBDiGriz | and you to me |
| 06:41.26 | JBDiGriz | g'nite |
| 06:42.59 | captain_proton | learner: i can add email addresses to it |
| 06:43.23 | captain_proton | thats how i did sfsnap - small shell script called via procmail =) |
| 06:43.52 | learner | heh, good thinking |
| 06:44.03 | learner | would you add my e-mail? |
| 06:45.31 | captain_proton | you care at all how the email is formatted? special subject, for example |
| 06:46.02 | learner | no, formatting doesn't matter so much |
| 06:46.16 | learner | whatever you use would be fine probably |
| 06:46.46 | captain_proton | ok, what address? |
| 06:46.47 | learner | consistent subject would be good (e.g. no timestamps) |
| 06:47.07 | captain_proton | sfsnap uses a subject of 'bzflag commit' |
| 06:47.21 | learner | that should be just fine, cap |
| 06:48.58 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: add yet another email address for cvs ping |
| 06:49.12 | learner | checking |
| 06:49.24 | captain_proton | you won't have gotten an email from that one |
| 06:49.34 | learner | ah, ok |
| 06:49.38 | learner | not checking |
| 06:49.43 | captain_proton | :) |
| 07:11.49 | learner | it's time to hit the hay, gnight |
| 07:12.01 | captain_proton | 'night |
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| 08:06.18 | bomber | moin |
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| 08:47.16 | [dmp] | !lseen [dmp] |
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| 08:47.31 | [dmp] | !lseen [dmp] |
| 08:47.32 | [dm_] | [dmp]: I saw [dmp] on ducati.bzflag.org:5156 at Mon Jun 30 22:10:02 2003 |
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| 09:40.39 | speedychonchon | Hello World |
| 09:40.45 | speedychonchon | sallut tout le monde |
| 09:42.03 | speedychonchon | houhou ? |
| 09:43.42 | iLLf8d | gnight all |
| 09:44.11 | speedychonchon | I'm not alone ! :-D |
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| 09:50.41 | [dmp] | !lplayers The Dark Side |
| 09:50.41 | [dm_] | [dmp]: The Dark Side: [dmp](ducati.bzflag.org:5156) |
| 09:50.44 | [dmp] | wooho :) |
| 09:51.22 | speedychonchon | hello |
| 09:51.33 | ak|ra | speedychonchon: hi |
| 09:52.13 | [dmp] | !lplayers fortix |
| 09:52.14 | [dm_] | [dmp]: I havnt seen anyone from fortix |
| 09:52.21 | [dmp] | !lplayers Fortix |
| 09:52.21 | [dm_] | [dmp]: I havnt seen anyone from Fortix |
| 09:52.23 | speedychonchon | Are you well ? |
| 09:53.43 | speedychonchon | I understand nothing ! 8-) |
| 09:58.41 | [dmp] | !lplayers Fortix |
| 09:58.41 | [dm_] | [dmp]: Fortix: sussi(ducati.bzflag.org:5156) |
| 09:59.41 | [dmp] | a short name for "find any members of this team" command? !findanymembersfrom is abit long :-) |
| 10:03.29 | speedychonchon | tchao. |
| 10:04.41 | [dmp] | cu speedychonchon :) |
| 10:05.51 | ak|ra | [dmp]: famf |
| 10:13.13 | *** join/#bzflag [bot] (~dennis@3E6B486F.aalb.stofanet.dk) |
| 10:13.23 | [dmp] | !famf vitamins bz |
| 10:13.24 | [bot] | [dmp]: I havnt seen anyone from famf |
| 10:13.27 | [dmp] | dooh. |
| 10:13.39 | ak|ra | muhahhr :) |
| 10:14.08 | *** join/#bzflag [bot] (~dennis@3E6B486F.aalb.stofanet.dk) |
| 10:14.11 | [dmp] | !famf vitamins bz |
| 10:14.11 | [bot] | [dmp]: I havnt seen anyone from vitamins bz |
| 10:14.19 | ak|ra | sexy |
| 10:14.20 | [dmp] | !famf vitamin bz |
| 10:14.20 | [bot] | [dmp]: I havnt seen anyone from vitamin bz |
| 10:14.22 | [dmp] | hmm |
| 10:14.41 | [dmp] | ~d |
| 10:15.00 | Chestal | !famf the moles |
| 10:15.00 | [bot] | Chestal: I havnt seen anyone from the moles |
| 10:15.00 | ak|ra | !famf moles |
| 10:15.00 | [bot] | ak|ra: I havnt seen anyone from moles |
| 10:15.15 | ak|ra | hae? |
| 10:15.32 | [dmp] | what team is bomber a member of? |
| 10:15.46 | ak|ra | zeebroths? |
| 10:15.51 | ak|ra | nope .. |
| 10:16.18 | Chestal | bomer is a how |
| 10:16.26 | ak|ra | ah yes |
| 10:16.28 | [dmp] | !famf hell on wheels |
| 10:16.28 | [bot] | [dmp]: hell on wheels: bomber(ducati.bzflag.org:5156) |
| 10:16.33 | ak|ra | [dmp]: famf -> gang |
| 10:16.41 | [dmp] | gang? |
| 10:16.52 | [dmp] | ah |
| 10:16.55 | ak|ra | one is searching for gangmembers :) |
| 10:16.58 | Chestal | dmp: it onyl returns players who are currently on? |
| 10:17.06 | [dmp] | Chestal: yes |
| 10:17.09 | ak|ra | perhaps its easier to memorize than the fabulos famf |
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| 10:18.50 | [dmp] | Chestal: actually i wondered if it should show all members and just write nick(n/a) for members not online..But i think it would be harder to spot the players online. |
| 10:19.21 | *** join/#bzflag [bot] (~dennis@3E6B486F.aalb.stofanet.dk) |
| 10:19.25 | [dmp] | !gang hell on wheels |
| 10:19.27 | [bot] | [dmp]: hell on wheels: bomber(ducati.bzflag.org:5156) |
| 10:19.32 | Chestal | dmp: did you introduce any tolerance for team and/or player names? |
| 10:19.42 | [dmp] | Chestal: not at all. |
| 10:20.45 | [dmp] | in the next league version i wanna have tags for each team (HoW, TLZ, TDS...) this could be usefull for stuff like this. |
| 10:21.24 | [dmp] | and it would avoid having two TDS teams :-) |
| 10:21.57 | Chestal | I wonder what our tag would be |
| 10:22.09 | Chestal | MOL? TM? M? |
| 10:22.25 | [dmp] | Chestal: /Y\ :-) |
| 10:24.19 | ak|ra | [dmp]: muhhahahr .. yes /Y\ is great |
| 10:25.12 | Chestal | dmp: yes, saw that too, but I don't think this is a good measure |
| 10:30.49 | [dmp] | !gang the dark side |
| 10:30.49 | [bot] | [dmp]: the dark side: root(ducati.bzflag.org:5156) [dmp](ducati.bzflag.org:5156) |
| 10:31.32 | ak|ra | gang is cool |
| 10:31.48 | ak|ra | so, off for work guys |
| 10:52.51 | [dmp] | Perhaps I should make a script for ibot to handle !lseen and !gang |
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| 12:11.10 | CIA | falcon611 opened Feature Requests 763826 (Loose flag timeout): |
| 12:18.18 | CIA | falcon611 opened Feature Requests 763827 (Option of 'homed flag to cap'): |
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| 14:12.48 | niksie | Hello |
| 14:12.52 | niksie | anyone want to play rabbit hunt? |
| 14:16.40 | niksie | nobody? |
| 14:16.57 | learner | niksie, I'll play for a few minutes. rebuilding the server now |
| 14:17.02 | learner | gimme 2 minutes |
| 14:17.04 | niksie | learner: sure |
| 14:17.13 | niksie | learner: did you spent any time on bzedit? |
| 14:17.55 | niksie | heh |
| 14:17.57 | niksie | don't bother |
| 14:18.09 | niksie | I'm going to write my own someday.. |
| 14:19.00 | niksie | in cocoa it should be a piece of cake to output some XML stuff and feed that to a perl script to convert it to what bzflag wants |
| 14:19.12 | niksie | learner: what server is yours? |
| 14:19.12 | learner | pat commited his windows version to cvs so I want to take a peek at how easy it'll be to snap a aqua gui on it |
| 14:19.29 | learner | I'm running patlabor's map right now |
| 14:20.24 | niksie | learner: yeah, I was running around on it a few minuts ago |
| 14:20.32 | [dmp] | darn, my 1.9 seems to be outdated :-| - can sf dont wanna let me update :-| |
| 14:20.48 | niksie | check the topic for snapshots |
| 14:20.54 | bryjen | cap'proton commented bzedit's portability yesterday. something about MFC and steaming pile ;) |
| 14:21.14 | niksie | MFC? |
| 14:21.28 | learner | lol, bryjen |
| 14:21.29 | bryjen | microsoft's foundation classes |
| 14:21.32 | [dmp] | Microsfot Fundation cl.. darn |
| 14:21.46 | learner | !impressed |
| 14:21.55 | learner | !learner |
| 14:22.08 | niksie | heh |
| 14:22.11 | Chestal | someone care to join me on ducati rabbit? |
| 14:22.13 | learner | [dmp] what happened? |
| 14:22.30 | niksie | learner and I are going to be rabitting soon |
| 14:22.35 | [dmp] | chestal wrote as he was me :-) And the text i wrote was as (UNKNOWN) :-) |
| 14:22.43 | [dmp] | and chestal didnt have a name either. |
| 14:22.48 | niksie | learner: is ducati the server we are going to be running on? |
| 14:22.55 | learner | that was the problem last night, too |
| 14:23.04 | niksie | I second the bug-motion |
| 14:23.05 | [dmp] | abit strange seeing yourself saying hello :) |
| 14:23.22 | Chestal | somebody must have broken something in last 2 days then |
| 14:23.24 | Chestal | it all used to work |
| 14:23.44 | learner | [dmp] .. I meant what happened to the "!player" last seen hack... :) |
| 14:24.45 | bryjen | Chestal: more playerid goofiness. |
| 14:24.49 | learner | my client is rebuilding still, niksie -- I'll need a min |
| 14:24.52 | niksie | sure |
| 14:25.06 | niksie | I have a client from yesterday evening |
| 14:25.09 | niksie | is that still good? |
| 14:25.16 | Chestal | bryjen: but I'm not aware that anything has changes |
| 14:25.32 | Chestal | after I made 0 a valid plaeyr id and introduced the special player ids, everything worked fine |
| 14:25.44 | learner | ah, if Chestal hasn't "fixed" anything .. then we'll have some "fun" .. heheh |
| 14:25.48 | Chestal | bryjen, dmp: did your clients already have the additional teamkills in the scoreboard? |
| 14:26.01 | learner | I'll throw in a bzadmin observer to see if he can lock out player 0 |
| 14:26.06 | Chestal | must be one of the cimmit on Monday or SUnday which broke things |
| 14:26.07 | learner | that should help |
| 14:26.11 | bryjen | i didnt look |
| 14:26.15 | [dmp] | Chestal: no |
| 14:26.30 | bryjen | Chestal: i had a bit negative number in there last night |
| 14:26.35 | [dmp] | i can make a screenshot if you like, Chestal |
| 14:26.53 | learner | niksie, do you have teamkills on the scoreboard? you should |
| 14:27.20 | niksie | let me log in |
| 14:27.31 | Chestal | dmp: jsut checking how odl your version was |
| 14:27.38 | Chestal | if it has the teamkill display, it is quite new |
| 14:28.10 | [dmp] | Chestal: ah okey. I got contact with sf now. So im compilign a new version soon |
| 14:28.46 | niksie | I have teamkill on the right |
| 14:28.49 | niksie | but nothing below it |
| 14:28.59 | [dmp] | ~d |
| 14:29.02 | niksie | lets not do the ducati rabit |
| 14:29.05 | niksie | I like the new map |
| 14:29.38 | Chestal | niksie: the teamskills is the number in [] |
| 14:29.52 | [dmp] | learner: try to write !gang Vitamin bz to me. And now you can send it to me privately :) |
| 14:29.54 | niksie | ok, shall I try again? |
| 14:31.07 | learner | way cool |
| 14:32.45 | Chestal | anyone who is positive that he is running latest client code, please join ducati |
| 14:33.06 | Chestal | join, mvoe around and shoot a little |
| 14:33.12 | learner | I'm sure |
| 14:33.32 | Chestal | then come, please :-) |
| 14:34.32 | niksie | what if I'm not positive? |
| 14:35.32 | niksie | my code is from the 30th of june |
| 14:36.15 | Chestal | somebody killed me and crashed my client |
| 14:36.21 | Chestal | I wonder when this was messed up |
| 14:36.27 | learner | you like that one? |
| 14:36.29 | Chestal | msut be a very recent change,m but I don't see anything |
| 14:36.31 | niksie | I did join |
| 14:36.34 | learner | I shoot you, you get kicked |
| 14:36.37 | Chestal | last change was the addition of the tk |
| 14:36.38 | niksie | I didn't see any tanks |
| 14:36.42 | *** join/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@3E6B486F.aalb.stofanet.dk) |
| 14:36.46 | Chestal | did the problem exist befoer that? |
| 14:36.49 | niksie | but maybe I was too late |
| 14:36.57 | niksie | lets try again |
| 14:37.02 | learner | i don't think so, chestal |
| 14:37.11 | learner | niksie, see you on brlcad.org |
| 14:37.14 | Chestal | looks like players don't know their real ids |
| 14:37.18 | [dmp] | that was different :) |
| 14:37.38 | [dmp] | chestal was talking as [dmp]. learner as Chestal, me as (UNKNOWN). Niksie shot at me (i think) and i "shot myself" without seeing any tanks.. just some shots |
| 14:37.42 | learner | it's the invisible bunny hunt.. :) |
| 14:37.52 | [dmp] | and then it crashed (had to restart-x) |
| 14:37.55 | learner | ha, dmp, no - I shot you |
| 14:38.02 | [dmp] | bastard :) |
| 14:38.07 | learner | I knew it would kick you |
| 14:38.20 | learner | that was the point of going to an identifyable place |
| 14:38.29 | learner | I couldn't see you, but I knew it'd kill you |
| 14:38.41 | [dmp] | ah |
| 14:38.52 | learner | you guys were all nr to me |
| 14:39.04 | [dmp] | only niksie was nr to me. |
| 14:40.37 | Chestal | I think I found the error |
| 14:40.54 | niksie | Hi everyone |
| 14:40.57 | Chestal | there are (at least) two places inthe client handling MsgAddPLayer |
| 14:41.13 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~brat@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 14:41.13 | Chestal | and that message changed yesterday, but only one handling was modified |
| 14:41.26 | niksie | I saw one tank who was not responding at a different location then the middle of the box |
| 14:41.39 | niksie | shall I try and get the latest client just to be sure? |
| 14:41.50 | niksie | I think I already have the latest.. |
| 14:41.52 | [dmp] | hi bzgirl |
| 14:41.58 | Chestal | niksie: no, wait for my commit |
| 14:41.58 | learner | not yet niksie |
| 14:42.00 | bzgirl | hi |
| 14:42.03 | niksie | ok |
| 14:42.06 | learner | mornin' missy |
| 14:42.08 | bzgirl | happy Canada day |
| 14:42.12 | Chestal | hi bzg |
| 14:42.13 | niksie | it sucks that anonCVS doesn't work |
| 14:42.23 | learner | ah, happy Canada day them |
| 14:42.56 | bryjen | Canada Day? |
| 14:43.13 | bzgirl | bryjen: its our birthday |
| 14:43.27 | learner | "our" girl? :) |
| 14:43.36 | bzgirl | well Canada's |
| 14:43.39 | Chestal | there's stil that id magic in MsgAddPlayer that weas introduced when the odl player id changed, to support new and old format |
| 14:43.41 | learner | darn |
| 14:43.46 | bryjen | I bet that's a biiiiig cake |
| 14:43.53 | Chestal | I think I should now go for it and dump it |
| 14:44.38 | niksie | dump it? |
| 14:44.58 | [dmp] | cake is good :) |
| 14:45.04 | niksie | I like cake |
| 14:45.05 | captain_proton | Chestal: what logic are you looking at? |
| 14:48.05 | Chestal | proton: MsgAddPlayer used to append the 'real' id to the end of the message |
| 14:48.14 | Chestal | proton: the the player itself would then reconsider his initial id and change it |
| 14:48.22 | niksie | shiny!!! |
| 14:48.24 | Chestal | proton: and the server had code to map from new to old id |
| 14:48.27 | niksie | the next map reader may be in XML |
| 14:48.45 | Chestal | proton: I'm removing that from the msg now, and the handling in the client as well |
| 14:49.33 | niksie | does JeffM2501 ever come here? |
| 14:49.48 | captain_proton | niksie: yeah, he goes by the name Patlabor221 |
| 14:49.54 | learner | can I get someone to cause me a bus error? |
| 14:49.59 | learner | i.e. shoot me |
| 14:50.50 | Chestal | well, only way to test is to commit it I guess :-) |
| 14:51.25 | Chestal | I wonder if it would be a good idea to have some additional minor version number or somethign that get's upped each time the protocol is changed |
| 14:51.34 | Chestal | it should prevent peoepl with older CVS clients from joining |
| 14:51.36 | bryjen | or tar it up and put it somewhere we can fetch it |
| 14:51.49 | niksie | learner: on what server? |
| 14:52.09 | niksie | I think that would be a great idea |
| 14:52.14 | niksie | perhaps a time stamp? |
| 14:52.37 | learner | niksie, on mine please |
| 14:52.54 | captain_proton | oh no, not another version number... :P |
| 14:52.55 | CIA | commit by chestal: get rid of the 'read' player id appended to MsgAddPlayer, it is not needed anymore; this should also fix the id mismatch that was introduced with the teamkilling score (extended MsgAddPlayer message was not read corectly when joining in the client code) |
| 14:53.01 | Chestal | well, there are commits which don't break the protocol |
| 14:53.24 | Chestal | ok, cvs up, compile and join please :-) |
| 14:53.30 | learner | the testers should always be running the latest.. |
| 14:53.40 | niksie | can't find your server |
| 14:53.45 | bryjen | 1.9a0 has enough numbers. another letter ? ;) |
| 14:53.57 | Chestal | niksie: just started it, have you already recompiled? |
| 14:54.00 | captain_proton | bryjen: you misunderstand :) |
| 14:54.02 | niksie | no |
| 14:54.07 | niksie | I was talking to learner |
| 14:54.14 | captain_proton | right now there are about 15 different represenations of the version number |
| 14:54.25 | learner | niksie, my server is patlabor's bunny hunt |
| 14:54.32 | learner | brlcad.org |
| 14:54.35 | niksie | ko |
| 14:54.39 | bryjen | captain_proton: so 16 would make it a nice round figure ;) |
| 14:54.57 | captain_proton | har |
| 14:55.17 | Chestal | it's nice that the list serv manages different versin numbers |
| 14:55.26 | Chestal | but he has problems connecting to the new clients of course |
| 14:55.32 | Chestal | Player [0] accept() from 208.186.182.172:60533 on 6 |
| 14:55.32 | Chestal | Player [0] on 6 removed: ECONNRESET/EPIPE |
| 14:56.35 | captain_proton | yeah :( |
| 14:56.58 | niksie | stupid CVS isn't working |
| 14:57.15 | niksie | Chestal: is there a snapshot I can download? |
| 14:57.31 | bryjen | niksie: http://sfsnap.babylonia.flatirons.org/ |
| 14:57.31 | niksie | and whats up with the anonCVS of sourceforge |
| 14:57.58 | captain_proton | niksie: its running off their backup server, because it was making developer access really slow |
| 14:58.09 | captain_proton | unfortunately their backup server sucks a lot, and is 24hrs behind |
| 14:58.14 | niksie | hmm |
| 14:58.17 | bryjen | numbering the protocol while its still chaning could get out of hand, no? |
| 14:58.20 | Chestal | proton: are those created automatically? |
| 14:58.25 | niksie | have you guys considered switching to the gnu alternative? |
| 14:58.30 | captain_proton | Chestal: indeed |
| 14:58.34 | Chestal | captain_proton: on each commit? |
| 14:58.37 | captain_proton | Chestal: indeed |
| 14:59.03 | Chestal | proton: please say 'indeed' |
| 14:59.04 | learner | niksie, look at the cvs status page on sourceforge |
| 14:59.19 | niksie | learner: ok |
| 14:59.40 | learner | Chestal: indeed |
| 15:00.26 | niksie | gzip: stdin: decompression OK, trailing garbage ignored |
| 15:00.26 | Chestal | hmm, looks I forgot something |
| 15:00.30 | captain_proton | niksie: if we're going to go to the trouble of switching repositories, there's no reason for us to continue using CVS |
| 15:00.40 | captain_proton | niksie: thats an ignorable error |
| 15:00.41 | bryjen | rebuilt. which server? |
| 15:00.51 | niksie | ok |
| 15:00.56 | niksie | captain_proton: what would you use instead? |
| 15:01.38 | CIA | commit by chestal: getting really rid of the additional player id |
| 15:02.04 | niksie | Chestal: do we need to get a new snapshot? |
| 15:02.17 | Chestal | niksie: th last one is a server only change |
| 15:02.34 | niksie | ok, cool |
| 15:03.20 | CIA | commit by chestal: getting rid of more additional player id stuff (oh my) |
| 15:03.36 | learner | how do I tell the autoconf-based build to be a debug build? set CFLAGS? |
| 15:03.50 | captain_proton | ./configure --enable-debug |
| 15:04.02 | niksie | should I have done that? |
| 15:04.14 | learner | nothing post config, though? |
| 15:04.19 | captain_proton | learner: nope |
| 15:04.23 | learner | drat |
| 15:04.28 | learner | mkay, thx |
| 15:04.43 | learner | mine's rebuilt |
| 15:05.06 | Chestal | server is up |
| 15:05.34 | captain_proton | i'm built but i'll be out for another 5 mins |
| 15:05.52 | niksie | I'm not build and will take another 5 mins |
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| 15:17.10 | niksie | yay, compiling done, here I come! |
| 15:19.51 | captain_proton | TimRiker: did you ever get my reply to your email re: exceptions? |
| 15:22.16 | Chestal | TK calculation is wrong, rest seems towork now |
| 15:22.52 | learner | oh, another thing |
| 15:23.13 | learner | Ches, you know about Pausing as rabbit while alone, yes? |
| 15:23.14 | niksie | Some people where phasing out |
| 15:23.17 | bryjen | the tk counter for me seemed OK , but the numbers for other players looked like they included their wins as well |
| 15:23.56 | Chestal | learner: yes, it's in BUGS |
| 15:24.06 | learner | ah, mkay |
| 15:24.54 | Chestal | the server doesn't update the team for the rabbit, i.e. the rabbit is always rogue |
| 15:24.58 | Chestal | should I change that? |
| 15:25.09 | learner | yes |
| 15:25.13 | Chestal | otherwise, we must add logic to check if the player is the rabbit here and there |
| 15:25.19 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: note about wiki |
| 15:25.28 | learner | otherwise, unable to do team chat against rabbit |
| 15:25.36 | niksie | that map on ducati rabbit isn't good for this mode :) |
| 15:25.44 | TimRiker | captain_proton: yep, just have not replied yet. |
| 15:25.51 | niksie | no teleports or other ways to run away :) |
| 15:26.09 | captain_proton | TimRiker: ok, just wanted to check, as my ssmtp config got all wonky :) |
| 15:26.18 | TimRiker | I'm still nervous about exception handling on all platforms. |
| 15:26.29 | TimRiker | I'd prefer to avoid it if possible. |
| 15:26.43 | Chestal | proton: see any problem with updating player[i].team whenever the rabbit changes? |
| 15:26.44 | captain_proton | hm...which platforms? ;) |
| 15:26.47 | Chestal | proton: in the server |
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| 15:27.11 | captain_proton | only one i can think of that might be severely broken is old mac, which is already severely broken |
| 15:27.23 | niksie | I'm using macosX |
| 15:27.25 | captain_proton | Chestal: i don't think that'll cause a problem - try it and see |
| 15:27.35 | TimRiker | captain_proton: old ugly scary platforms |
| 15:27.39 | niksie | and anybody still hooked on macos9 should be removed from the gene pool |
| 15:28.00 | niksie | give them another reason to upgrade, nobody should be forced to use that hell |
| 15:28.32 | learner | cap: severely broken?? |
| 15:28.43 | captain_proton | two years ago MIPSpro & WSpro didn't do exceptions well, but thats changed |
| 15:28.55 | niksie | seriheh |
| 15:29.01 | learner | ah old mac, nvr mind -- missed the "old" part |
| 15:30.31 | captain_proton | and exceptions are neat, especially with the gcc verbose terminator :) |
| 15:32.31 | captain_proton | TimRiker: what compiler did the mac build use? |
| 15:32.33 | niksie | whats the next release going to be? a 1.9 or a 1.7? |
| 15:32.46 | niksie | codewarrior probally |
| 15:32.52 | niksie | maybe that MWC thing |
| 15:32.57 | Chestal | niksie: no 1.7, probably 1.9 |
| 15:33.33 | niksie | cool, I shall now ask the forever unanswered Question In All Open Source Projects, when? |
| 15:33.43 | captain_proton | RSN ;) |
| 15:33.45 | Chestal | as soon as it is ready |
| 15:33.50 | TimRiker | captain_proton: one of the "old scary" variety. |
| 15:33.54 | captain_proton | heh |
| 15:33.54 | niksie | I was expecting that :) |
| 15:34.22 | TimRiker | as soon as it's ready or maybe a little before that. |
| 15:34.28 | niksie | heh |
| 15:34.41 | bryjen | but hopefully just after |
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| 15:34.55 | captain_proton | ok, well for now i'll indulge you and pull the exceptions from bzdb |
| 15:34.57 | niksie | nah, unstable features are fun |
| 15:35.20 | niksie | but having nobody to play with is not :( |
| 15:35.30 | Patlabor221 | get more friends |
| 15:35.36 | niksie | heh |
| 15:35.51 | niksie | they all want Good Looking games |
| 15:37.01 | Patlabor221 | if it's an apple compiler, why bother? arn't there like 3 macs out there with 3d hardware? :) |
| 15:38.08 | captain_proton | NaN is all zeroed? |
| 15:38.13 | bryjen | Patlabor221: almost as many as those BeOS things |
| 15:38.31 | Patlabor221 | ohh I think there are more macs then beos things |
| 15:39.10 | Patlabor221 | I realy think it would be cool if the list serv tracked version numbers and OSs of the requests it got. |
| 15:39.18 | Patlabor221 | that would be some nice info to have |
| 15:39.21 | niksie | Patlabor221: you are working on the new map reader system thing right? |
| 15:39.31 | Patlabor221 | I will be when I get time yes |
| 15:39.41 | niksie | Patlabor221: I would like to second the motion to make it use XML :) |
| 15:39.53 | Patlabor221 | convince me of what it gets us? |
| 15:40.01 | captain_proton | hmm |
| 15:40.07 | niksie | it would be easier to make map editors |
| 15:40.10 | captain_proton | i wonder if the signalling NaN actually does something |
| 15:40.15 | Patlabor221 | actualy it will be harder |
| 15:40.23 | Patlabor221 | since XML has a lot of extra crap |
| 15:40.29 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: not really, there are some very easy XML libs |
| 15:40.32 | captain_proton | XPath is your friend |
| 15:40.33 | niksie | not if your OS of choice has a good system of XML stuff |
| 15:40.41 | niksie | s/stuff/library/ |
| 15:40.49 | CIA | commit by chestal: change team to RabbitTeam for rabbit in server, too |
| 15:40.51 | Patlabor221 | ok, but what in XML do we get? other then a parser and some layout? |
| 15:41.07 | bryjen | hmmm. Pat's already got a map editor. Any change would add effort |
| 15:41.11 | Chestal | BeZee jsut tried to compile curent code on win32: |
| 15:41.12 | Chestal | RemotePlayer.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol "public: virtual void __thiscall Player::changeScore(short,short)" (?changeScore@Player@@UAEXFF@Z) |
| 15:41.22 | niksie | Patlabor221: are you the author of the bzedit windows? |
| 15:41.25 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 15:41.29 | Chestal | this function has changed, is there some VC++ logic to be applied? |
| 15:41.51 | Patlabor221 | let me build and see |
| 15:42.08 | niksie | there are no map editors on macosx and if you where to use XML some idiot who can barely code might be able to create a real crummy one for macosx |
| 15:42.21 | bryjen | hehe |
| 15:42.30 | Patlabor221 | the map parser from bzedit is totaly cross platform |
| 15:43.01 | Patlabor221 | XML dosn't have anything for 3d stuff, so we have to make our own tags in there anway |
| 15:43.15 | Patlabor221 | I just see it as a lot of cruft, BZmaps are VERY simple |
| 15:43.22 | captain_proton | xml doesn't have anything for anything |
| 15:43.30 | Patlabor221 | I know, so what does it get us? |
| 15:43.35 | Patlabor221 | besides a parser? |
| 15:43.48 | niksie | increased simplicity in making map related things |
| 15:43.55 | Patlabor221 | how? |
| 15:44.00 | Patlabor221 | what is simpler then a freakin block |
| 15:44.03 | Chestal | he uses anon CVS, so it's probably because of that |
| 15:44.05 | Patlabor221 | have you even looked at the map? |
| 15:44.29 | niksie | macosx has the feature to output arrays directly to XML |
| 15:44.38 | niksie | s/macosx/cocoa/ |
| 15:45.04 | Patlabor221 | whopty freaking do, it's cake to dump BZ ents they are almmost all the same |
| 15:45.24 | Patlabor221 | and changing the map format just so some people can be lazy dosn't seem like a good reason |
| 15:45.30 | Patlabor221 | it should have real features |
| 15:45.53 | Patlabor221 | chestal curent CVS builds for me |
| 15:46.09 | Chestal | Pat: k, I pointed him to the snapshots |
| 15:46.28 | Patlabor221 | if you want to make a map edtitor just use the world class from bzedit, it's realy portable |
| 15:46.31 | niksie | If I where better at coding I might have a go at it myself... but I'm that good |
| 15:46.53 | Patlabor221 | still features should not be added just cus they are "cool" they should do something |
| 15:46.57 | niksie | I wanted it as a project to learn more of cocoa and to try the new xtools |
| 15:47.07 | niksie | features should be added because they are cool |
| 15:47.25 | Patlabor221 | spoken like a true hacker |
| 15:47.36 | Patlabor221 | I have an extended map format I may use that adds new stuff |
| 15:48.03 | niksie | new stuff== cool |
| 15:48.12 | Patlabor221 | not allways |
| 15:48.22 | [dmp] | bugs is cool? :) |
| 15:48.36 | niksie | those aren't, but the features that come with them often are |
| 15:48.44 | Patlabor221 | why not make the maps binary? |
| 15:48.47 | Patlabor221 | that's easyer |
| 15:48.52 | niksie | yikes |
| 15:48.59 | Patlabor221 | cus the XML ones were NOT efectily human readable |
| 15:49.16 | niksie | but very machine readable while still being slightly human readable |
| 15:49.36 | Patlabor221 | noone would edit a map by hand with XML cept for cap, and he's a freak :) |
| 15:49.51 | niksie | why would you edit a map by hand? |
| 15:49.51 | Patlabor221 | also the maps were about 5x larger then they needed to be with XML |
| 15:49.56 | Patlabor221 | many people do now |
| 15:49.59 | niksie | you have implemented it? |
| 15:50.01 | niksie | in XML? |
| 15:50.07 | Patlabor221 | we had XML in 1.8 |
| 15:50.09 | Patlabor221 | it was ugly |
| 15:50.16 | Patlabor221 | very very ugly |
| 15:50.23 | niksie | ok |
| 15:50.24 | captain_proton | memset(&NaN, 0xff, sizeof(float)); |
| 15:50.24 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.24 | captain_proton | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.28 | captain_proton | i feel dirty |
| 15:50.37 | Patlabor221 | go shower |
| 15:50.44 | captain_proton | hrmph, that doesn't compile |
| 15:50.50 | Patlabor221 | use soap |
| 15:50.54 | Patlabor221 | :P |
| 15:51.06 | Chestal | proton: what are you doing? |
| 15:51.13 | captain_proton | there's got to be a symbolic constant for NaN |
| 15:51.23 | Chestal | proton: there are well-defined constants for the different kinds of NaNs, at least in C++ |
| 15:51.27 | captain_proton | where? |
| 15:51.43 | Chestal | I forgot :-) |
| 15:53.13 | Patlabor221 | cap you took care of a stricmp for me didn't you? |
| 15:53.42 | Chestal | maybe in <limits>? |
| 15:53.55 | Chestal | http://www.qnx.com/developer/docs/momentics621_docs/dinkum_en/full/limits2.html |
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| 15:54.40 | Chestal | std::numeric_limits<float>::quiet_NaN() or ::signaling_NaN() |
| 15:56.17 | captain_proton | Patlabor221: should be, yes |
| 15:56.25 | captain_proton | Chestal: ah, neat |
| 15:57.21 | CIA | commit by davidtrowbridge: pull exceptions and return a signaling NaN |
| 16:00.23 | niksie | Patlabor221: where can I download the rabbit map that you made? |
| 16:00.33 | niksie | you made it right? |
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| 16:18.40 | Patlabor221 | every one uses common.cpp right? |
| 16:19.46 | Patlabor221 | wel cxx |
| 16:20.15 | Patlabor221 | or there is no common.cxx |
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| 16:30.29 | bryjen | captain_proton prot-work ? |
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| 16:37.33 | Patlabor221 | where is the list of all the messages? |
| 16:39.38 | Chestal | include/protocol.h? |
| 16:40.24 | Patlabor221 | yeah, thanks |
| 16:44.27 | fiberchunks | hello! :) |
| 16:45.43 | Patlabor221 | sup |
| 16:46.00 | bryjen | any ideas: StateDatabase.cxx:22: limits: No such file or directory |
| 16:46.51 | bryjen | i've got limits.h and a climits |
| 16:47.00 | fiberchunks | nada, finally fully recovered from this weekend |
| 16:51.23 | Chestal | bryjen: which compiler? |
| 16:51.52 | bryjen | gcc --version = 2.95.3 |
| 16:52.08 | bryjen | odd. i thought I had 3 |
| 16:52.37 | Chestal | the evil redhat gcc |
| 16:52.43 | Chestal | but it looks liek 2.95 doesn't have limits |
| 16:53.03 | bryjen | who? Slackware |
| 16:53.05 | [dmp] | ~d |
| 16:54.03 | bryjen | eh. Old Slackware. I've got a newer one with gcc3 at home :( |
| 16:54.34 | Chestal | hmm, if we want to support 2.95, we have to change that :-( |
| 16:55.20 | CIA | florob changed Feature Requests 660694 (Team killers could become rogues): |
| 16:58.40 | Patlabor221 | who can tell me what is called for each obstical when it needs to know if a tank or a shot is in it? |
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| 17:09.37 | Patlabor221 | man I hope that people don't abuse this feature I'm about to test |
| 17:16.07 | fiberchunks | what abuse-laden feature are you testing senor? |
| 17:16.19 | learnerAtWork | I'll abuse it |
| 17:16.34 | Patlabor221 | driveThru and shootThru atributes on map objects |
| 17:18.28 | learnerAtWork | ah, that'll be a good feature |
| 17:18.40 | Mayhem | I'm sure some people will make stupid, unplayable maps with them. They will learn in time how to use them 'properly' |
| 17:18.49 | learnerAtWork | still leaves the abuse up to admins, which are in the minority |
| 17:19.40 | Mayhem | I think glasstowers is an abuse of teleporters, but thats up to the mapmaker. |
| 17:19.44 | Patlabor221 | wow the new for the world database is failing, that is not good |
| 17:20.11 | Mayhem | I reserve the right not to play on bad maps :) |
| 17:21.37 | Patlabor221 | why in the hell can't it allocate 1694 bytes!?!?! |
| 17:21.45 | Patlabor221 | this looks right, worldDatabase = new char[worldDatabaseSize]; |
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| 17:23.48 | Mayhem | is worldDatabase a pointer? |
| 17:25.10 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 17:25.18 | Patlabor221 | new is returning null |
| 17:25.23 | Patlabor221 | very very wierd |
| 17:25.50 | learnerAtWork | user error |
| 17:26.04 | Patlabor221 | there is only one way to use new |
| 17:26.25 | learnerAtWork | user error |
| 17:26.39 | Patlabor221 | well I think this is your code |
| 17:26.51 | learnerAtWork | ha. nice try |
| 17:27.01 | Patlabor221 | well it's not mine |
| 17:27.07 | Patlabor221 | and not where I made any changes |
| 17:27.12 | Patlabor221 | it's beezzzar |
| 17:27.24 | learnerAtWork | where at? |
| 17:27.57 | Patlabor221 | bzfs.cxx were we do worldDatabase = new char[worldDatabaseSize]; |
| 17:28.20 | Patlabor221 | round 3868 |
| 17:30.16 | Chestal | new cannot return 0 |
| 17:30.28 | Chestal | unless you disabled exceptions in your compiler or used new(std::nothrow) |
| 17:30.48 | Patlabor221 | it is, mac changed the std runtime stuff, I am thinking that is it |
| 17:30.53 | Patlabor221 | looking into it now |
| 17:30.54 | Chestal | so either your compiler is broken or something messed up the heap |
| 17:31.14 | prot-work | yay for the heap |
| 17:31.21 | Chestal | wodlDatabaseSize is a meaningful number? |
| 17:31.26 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 17:31.32 | Patlabor221 | 1600 something |
| 17:31.54 | Chestal | prot-work: it wurns out that g++-2.95 does not have <limits> |
| 17:32.11 | Chestal | prot-work: it got <limits.h> but that does not seem to incldue the numeric_limits templates |
| 17:32.52 | prot-work | bah |
| 17:33.07 | prot-work | hrm...anybody know of dvd ripping software for windows? |
| 17:33.09 | prot-work | =} |
| 17:33.38 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 17:34.19 | Patlabor221 | use DVD Decryper to rip, FlaskMPEG to encode |
| 17:42.37 | prot-work | hm, neat |
| 17:42.44 | prot-work | i can rip both language tracks + subs |
| 17:43.04 | prot-work | i wonder if there's an ogm encoder for windows that i could do multiple audio tracks on |
| 17:45.41 | Chestal | the command line ogm tools should exist on Windows, too? |
| 17:46.21 | Chestal | you'd have to convert (OCR) the subs, though I think |
| 17:52.16 | prot-work | i thought dvd subs were usually soft? |
| 18:02.19 | *** join/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 18:02.48 | david_v | hm can't access bzflag.org |
| 18:03.50 | JBDiGriz | I was noticing that access to bzflag.org and sf are really sporadic right now. |
| 18:04.16 | david_v | i guess, just did a ping and came up with vhost.sourceforge.net for bzflag.org |
| 18:07.55 | *** join/#bzflag ak|ra (~mathias@pD9E47D60.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:08.07 | ak|ra | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:08.11 | ak|ra | hi bzgirl |
| 18:08.13 | david_v | hey hey |
| 18:10.03 | Patlabor221 | ahhh well lets just can BZFS for windows, it dosn't work anyway |
| 18:11.47 | prot-work | ? |
| 18:12.07 | Patlabor221 | it dosn't work |
| 18:12.23 | bryjen | doesn't work at all or doesn't work _well_ |
| 18:12.24 | ak|ra | cancel |
| 18:12.32 | Patlabor221 | crashes |
| 18:12.33 | ak|ra | ahhh well lets just can BZFS |
| 18:12.37 | ak|ra | "ahhh well lets just can BZFS" |
| 18:12.49 | ak|ra | the "can" should be "cancel" right? |
| 18:12.55 | Patlabor221 | shitcan :) |
| 18:13.06 | Patlabor221 | busted compiler and all aperantly |
| 18:13.14 | bryjen | ahem. _trash_can |
| 18:13.24 | Patlabor221 | call it what you will |
| 18:13.30 | [dmp] | JBDiGriz: oh btw, i made the "see if any teammates is online"-feature :) |
| 18:13.36 | Patlabor221 | or someone is waltzion of mem |
| 18:13.49 | JBDiGriz | [dmp]: what's the syntax? |
| 18:13.56 | [dmp] | !gang ateam |
| 18:14.06 | [dmp] | either here or directly to me |
| 18:14.32 | bryjen | bang gang ? :O |
| 18:14.45 | JBDiGriz | Back in the old uucp days, an exclamation point was called a bang, so you've created a "bang gang"? |
| 18:15.21 | ak|ra | bryjen: hey, that was my suggestion |
| 18:16.05 | Mayhem | !gang bzrebels |
| 18:16.05 | [dmp] | Mayhem: I havnt seen anyone from bzrebels |
| 18:16.13 | Mayhem | !gang bzr |
| 18:16.14 | [dmp] | Mayhem: I havnt seen anyone from bzr |
| 18:16.43 | JBDiGriz | !gang BZ Rebels |
| 18:16.44 | [dmp] | JBDiGriz: I havnt seen anyone from BZ Rebels |
| 18:16.56 | Mayhem | [dmp]: I hope its not case sensitive |
| 18:17.07 | JBDiGriz | Mayhem: I thought you were on Rebels? |
| 18:17.08 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~administr@12-246-207-102.client.attbi.com) |
| 18:17.30 | bryjen | !gang TLZ |
| 18:17.30 | [dmp] | bryjen: I havnt seen anyone from TLZ |
| 18:17.58 | Mayhem | JBDiGriz: I am, depending how you spell it :) |
| 18:18.12 | JBDiGriz | [dmp]: What's the definitive list of team names? |
| 18:18.34 | Patlabor221 | ahhh there we go, found the heapyness |
| 18:19.03 | Mayhem | !gang BzRebels |
| 18:19.04 | [dmp] | Mayhem: I havnt seen anyone from BzRebels |
| 18:19.11 | david_v | hm, remember the script is new ;) |
| 18:19.20 | david_v | and so is its database... |
| 18:19.26 | Mayhem | well, its spelt like that on his ladder site, so its not that... |
| 18:19.55 | JBDiGriz | We're not complaining about the script, just doing our part as diligent testers :{) |
| 18:20.04 | [dmp] | Mayhem: it isnt case sensitive.. but you need to enter it exactly as it is in bzflag.org/league |
| 18:20.36 | JBDiGriz | bzflag.org has been having some connectivity problems, so it might not be the script. |
| 18:20.42 | david_v | !gang Fortix |
| 18:20.43 | [dmp] | david_v: Fortix: sussi(ducati.bzflag.org:5156) daBomb(ducati.bzflag.org:5156) |
| 18:20.49 | david_v | well then. :) |
| 18:21.08 | [dmp] | webinterface: http://bzflag.baat.dk/new/gang.php <- dropdown of teams, you can see how they are spelled here :) |
| 18:21.17 | [dmp] | but perhaps i should make wildcardstuff-anyway. |
| 18:21.31 | david_v | ugh, *Mac users* is first ;) |
| 18:21.53 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 18:21.59 | david_v | brb |
| 18:21.59 | [dmp] | they paid more :) |
| 18:22.03 | david_v | lol |
| 18:22.14 | JBDiGriz | !gang BzRebels |
| 18:22.14 | [dmp] | JBDiGriz: I havnt seen anyone from BzRebels |
| 18:22.52 | ak|ra | someone has written a piece of networkcode that emulates a tunnel? |
| 18:23.25 | ak|ra | especially for win32 in plain c? |
| 18:24.50 | *** join/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@3E6B486F.aalb.stofanet.dk) |
| 18:24.58 | JBDiGriz | !gang Vitamin bz |
| 18:25.19 | [dmp] | JBDiGriz: Vitamin bz: m1(ducati.bzflag.org:5156) |
| 18:25.59 | JBDiGriz | dmp is talking to himself again. Perhaps your voices should talk to Patlabor221's voices? ;) |
| 18:26.11 | Mayhem | you need at bot. dmpbot |
| 18:26.36 | [bot] | or a combination |
| 18:26.42 | [bmp] | :) |
| 18:26.52 | [bmp] | 1/3 bot, 2/3 dmp :-) |
| 18:27.03 | JBDiGriz | That's a good one! :) |
| 18:27.45 | JBDiGriz | bots start small, and then grow to become complete annoyances, look at noodlebot. :{) |
| 18:28.38 | [dmp] | It would be cool to have a bot that could be integrated with the bzflag-league. |
| 18:33.10 | *** join/#bzflag larsl_56k (~larsl@md46911c9.utfors.se) |
| 18:37.33 | scanline | so now this channel has 4 botS? |
| 18:37.34 | scanline | er, bots |
| 18:37.43 | larsl_56k | I'm getting 'no route to host' for SourceForge CVS, and I can't connect to the SF website either. Is anyone else having problems? |
| 18:39.52 | larsl_56k | Ah, there I go. |
| 18:42.32 | Mayhem | larsl_56k: was having the same, but seems recovered now |
| 18:42.55 | larsl_56k | Yes, it's working for me too now. |
| 18:43.17 | [dmp] | scanline: not really. im just a semi-bot :) |
| 18:43.37 | larsl_56k | A cyborg? |
| 18:43.42 | Mayhem | we shall call him [dot] :) |
| 18:43.46 | scanline | 3.33 bots or so? |
| 18:43.47 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 18:43.58 | Nidhoggr | it's annoying when people get smart about a ban threat. |
| 18:44.20 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-172-180.ADSL.mnsi.net) |
| 18:44.26 | [dmp] | what domain do portugal use? |
| 18:44.37 | larsl_56k | pt? |
| 18:44.41 | larsl_56k | I think. |
| 18:44.44 | larsl_56k | ~country .pt |
| 18:44.45 | | well, country .pt is portugal |
| 18:44.53 | [dmp] | thanks |
| 18:46.19 | Nidhoggr | hahahaha.. I actually banned someone from a host on petco.com |
| 18:55.49 | *** join/#bzflag MrFish (~chatzilla@host217-40-225-246.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 19:05.16 | *** part/#bzflag DTRemenak (~administr@12-246-207-102.client.attbi.com) |
| 19:20.45 | Nidhoggr | oof |
| 19:22.29 | *** join/#bzflag learnerAtWork (sean@chr160dhcp1675.chrchv01.md.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 19:23.00 | *** join/#bzflag prot-work (~jupiter@161.97.199.99) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 19:28.39 | Nidhoggr | had to hand compile ServerLink.o :) |
| 19:30.50 | *** join/#bzflag mmu_man (~revol@ALyon-209-1-13-14.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 19:33.45 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (~bryjen@63.147.94.145) |
| 19:35.21 | *** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient80-218-118-173.hispeed.ch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 19:51.04 | Patlabor221 | ummm she's not here |
| 19:51.15 | learnerAtWork | ssshhhh.. she doesn't know it |
| 19:51.25 | Nidhoggr | hi patlabor221 |
| 19:51.29 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 19:51.41 | Patlabor221 | well the closets thign your gonna get is bzdoug, and I don't think you want that. |
| 19:51.44 | ak|ra | Patlabor221: do you have some win32network code around? |
| 19:51.49 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 19:52.07 | Patlabor221 | naw I try not to use raw winsock, I use enet |
| 19:52.15 | prot-work | yay for enet |
| 19:52.20 | ak|ra | ok, thanx |
| 19:52.23 | Nidhoggr | well, I can start writing my automated admin scripts. |
| 19:52.30 | Patlabor221 | I did some stuff with sdl-net |
| 19:52.31 | Patlabor221 | it was ok |
| 19:52.33 | ak|ra | bye for now |
| 19:52.42 | *** part/#bzflag ak|ra (~mathias@pD9E47D60.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:53.40 | Patlabor221 | yay now to find out how I made the world not render at all :) |
| 19:55.48 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (~bryjen@63.147.94.145) |
| 19:56.22 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: In case you missed it, [dmp] set up a bang gang for you. ;{) |
| 19:56.44 | Nidhoggr | we've had power go out between 2 and 3 AM for a few moments for the last 3 days. |
| 19:56.45 | learnerAtWork | !bzseen learner |
| 19:56.45 | [dmp] | learnerAtWork: I saw learner on ducati.bzflag.org:5156 at Tue Jul 1 04:29:04 2003 |
| 19:56.58 | JBDiGriz | !gang BzRebels |
| 19:56.58 | [dmp] | JBDiGriz: I dont see anyone from BzRebels online. |
| 19:57.08 | learnerAtWork | !gang Vitamin Bz |
| 19:57.08 | [dmp] | learnerAtWork: I dont see anyone from Vitamin Bz online. |
| 19:57.11 | JBDiGriz | It doesn't work as well as it should |
| 19:57.22 | learnerAtWork | !gang BZ Rebels |
| 19:57.22 | [dmp] | learnerAtWork: I dont see anyone from BZ Rebels online. |
| 19:57.47 | learnerAtWork | !gang HoW |
| 19:57.47 | [dmp] | learnerAtWork: I dont see anyone from HoW online. |
| 19:57.49 | JBDiGriz | It's also available at his web site. |
| 19:58.06 | learnerAtWork | mkay |
| 19:58.13 | Patlabor221 | should put that in ibot |
| 19:58.15 | learnerAtWork | is he going to bot-ify it |
| 19:59.22 | JBDiGriz | We were discussing that, I'm not sure what he decided to do, but it sounded like he was open to suggestions. |
| 20:12.27 | *** join/#bzflag Quol (~QuolSimo@modemcable052.11-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 20:14.33 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (~bryjen@63.147.94.145) |
| 20:14.35 | *** join/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 20:16.03 | Quol | hey guys - anyone mess with having multiple BZ servers on linux?? |
| 20:16.25 | prot-work | i used to do it... |
| 20:17.11 | Quol | how did you start them automagically - rc.local and just execute them with something like bash -c /usr/local/bin/bzfs -conf /my/conf/file? |
| 20:17.23 | Quol | or did you make init scripts etc... |
| 20:17.29 | prot-work | i didn't do init scripts |
| 20:17.35 | prot-work | i just started by hand |
| 20:17.38 | Quol | ahhh |
| 20:17.47 | *** join/#bzflag sussudio (Suss@81.68.132.217) |
| 20:17.59 | Quol | when you start them by hand - you just keep the running in the background??? |
| 20:18.20 | learnerAtWork | I have them run to a log file in the background |
| 20:18.37 | Quol | will they be OK if the sessions disconnects and they are still running?? |
| 20:18.55 | learnerAtWork | know, the server will die |
| 20:18.58 | learnerAtWork | er, no |
| 20:19.16 | learnerAtWork | you should put it in a script |
| 20:19.24 | Quol | that's what I am thinking also... |
| 20:19.40 | Mayhem | Anyone here run bzfs in a chroot? |
| 20:19.47 | learnerAtWork | shellshock has a cross-platform script, though a simple while `true` ; do will suffice |
| 20:19.48 | Quol | nright now I am using screen and running them in there and detaching the screen session - probably not the best.. |
| 20:19.50 | sussudio | learner does i think |
| 20:20.02 | Quol | but I put them in my rc.local with bash -c ..... |
| 20:20.31 | Mayhem | security through obscurity - pah |
| 20:21.10 | learnerAtWork | security through ignorance |
| 20:21.17 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 20:21.24 | sussudio | security through violence |
| 20:21.27 | JBDiGriz | lack of security through ignorance |
| 20:21.49 | Mayhem | insecurity through cluelessness |
| 20:21.59 | learnerAtWork | me dum |
| 20:22.04 | JBDiGriz | Mayhem: rotfl |
| 20:22.14 | sussudio | if you have an udma 100 hd as master and an udma 66 as slave, will the master slow down to 66? |
| 20:22.23 | Mayhem | ^^^ = redhat? |
| 20:22.38 | prot-work | sussudio: yes |
| 20:22.45 | prot-work | the channel has a speed, not individual drives |
| 20:23.08 | sussudio | hm that would explain why my master is faster now that i've put another udma 100 as a slave instead of a 66'er |
| 20:23.57 | learnerAtWork | odd -- usually something else is the bottleneck |
| 20:24.07 | sussudio | 96,536,784,896 Bytes out of 195,877,789,696 Bytes Free |
| 20:24.08 | sussudio | :-B |
| 20:24.11 | learnerAtWork | but not surprising |
| 20:24.57 | learnerAtWork | that's a lot of pr0n |
| 20:25.02 | sussudio | indeed |
| 20:25.06 | Mayhem | lol @ learner |
| 20:25.24 | sussudio | pr0n has extension of .mp3, right? |
| 20:25.53 | learnerAtWork | i think most prefer the .mpg variant, but whatever floats your boat.. |
| 20:25.54 | JBDiGriz | Depends on what kind of pr0n you're into. |
| 20:26.26 | Mayhem | asciipron! |
| 20:26.29 | JBDiGriz | I think we freaked out Patlabor :{) |
| 20:26.32 | sussudio | Total of 67.893.123.700 Bytes in 10520 MP3s |
| 20:26.59 | *** join/#bzflag Patlabor221 (~Patlabor2@208.48.199.214) |
| 20:26.59 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 20:27.27 | learnerAtWork | I think Patlabor went off to check on the size of his collection.. |
| 20:27.55 | sussudio | or he clicked on BRITNEY_SPEAR_SCREENSAAVER.JPG.SCR |
| 20:27.59 | Patlabor221 | of what? |
| 20:28.14 | Patlabor221 | ha, are people actualy falling for that? |
| 20:28.20 | sussudio | indeed they are. |
| 20:28.26 | JBDiGriz | People fall for anything. |
| 20:29.02 | Patlabor221 | clensing of the computer gene pool |
| 20:29.03 | sussudio | people are stupid |
| 20:29.31 | JBDiGriz | It doesn't remove them from the gene pool. They just respawn without learning anything. |
| 20:29.50 | Patlabor221 | but it blows there data, so it puts them behind |
| 20:29.55 | Patlabor221 | they will never loearn |
| 20:29.57 | Patlabor221 | ever |
| 20:30.15 | JBDiGriz | They don't have much data, and the IT guys make money off of them. |
| 20:30.36 | Patlabor221 | so they give money to those who do know |
| 20:30.42 | Patlabor221 | like me and you. |
| 20:30.59 | JBDiGriz | I've often claimed I make more money from clueless people than people who do interesting work. |
| 20:31.32 | Mayhem | unfortunately clueless people keep sending me html-formatted chain mails :( |
| 20:31.58 | JBDiGriz | My mail program recognizes those, and junks them for me automagically. |
| 20:31.59 | Patlabor221 | filters :) |
| 20:32.01 | *** join/#bzflag Noodlebot (~noodlebot@bc183148.bendcable.com) |
| 20:32.59 | Mayhem | you automatically junk email from your customers? |
| 20:33.30 | JBDiGriz | Quite often I do. It hasn't hurt me so far. |
| 20:33.49 | JBDiGriz | The really clueless ones will call after sending to make sure I received it. |
| 20:33.52 | learnerAtWork | your e-mail automatically junk your customers? |
| 20:34.33 | JBDiGriz | If it's a html-formatted chain mail, it gets junked whether from a customer or anyone else. |
| 20:34.55 | Patlabor221 | heyy yeah, customers are allways lying anyway\ |
| 20:34.59 | Mayhem | JBDiGriz: what filter you using? |
| 20:35.33 | JBDiGriz | I use MacOS X mail, I haven't needed to add more to my mail machine yet. |
| 20:36.55 | JBDiGriz | I also have about 100 different email addresses. It's easy to filter based on where it's coming from. |
| 20:38.54 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Are you running smtp on your home machine? |
| 20:40.43 | learnerAtWork | negative |
| 20:40.50 | learnerAtWork | not yet |
| 20:41.13 | JBDiGriz | Hmm, something just responded from your machine on port 25. |
| 20:41.26 | learnerAtWork | really?? |
| 20:41.26 | sussudio | i think slashdot is getting desperate. |
| 20:41.30 | sussudio | "marioBrosse writes "I've been Googling around for a while, and can't find a decent free game portal. Everybody knows there are excellent free games available for download, such as GeneRally, Little Fighters 2, and various Civilization and Tron clones. Did I miss the one great free gaming site, or is there a huge lack of one in the gaming world ? I'm dreaming of an free game portal referencing freeware and shareware games for Windows, Linux, and MacOs, with ca |
| 20:41.33 | sussudio | lazy fscking users |
| 20:41.55 | sussudio | translation: "i'm too stupid too google, so i'm asking slashdot" |
| 20:41.55 | JBDiGriz | It didn't know simple smtp commands. |
| 20:42.34 | *** join/#bzflag tankmann (t@pD9E53DC7.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:43.09 | JBDiGriz | Ricochet has come back to San Diego. I used to use it to get around company firewalls. |
| 20:45.48 | Patlabor221 | whoot, drive and shoot thru work :) |
| 20:46.45 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: you got a response? |
| 20:46.51 | learnerAtWork | I get connection refused |
| 20:46.52 | learnerAtWork | telnet brlcad.org 25 |
| 20:46.53 | learnerAtWork | Trying 68.33.166.139... |
| 20:46.54 | learnerAtWork | telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused |
| 20:47.31 | JBDiGriz | telnet brlcad.org 25 |
| 20:47.31 | JBDiGriz | Trying 68.33.166.139... |
| 20:47.31 | JBDiGriz | Connected to brlcad.org. |
| 20:47.31 | JBDiGriz | Escape character is '^]'. |
| 20:47.31 | JBDiGriz | telnet brlcad.org 25 |
| 20:47.32 | JBDiGriz | Trying 68.33.166.139... |
| 20:47.34 | JBDiGriz | Connected to brlcad.org. |
| 20:47.36 | JBDiGriz | Escape character is '^]'. |
| 20:47.45 | JBDiGriz | sorry to the rest, i mistyped |
| 20:47.47 | *** join/#bzflag david_v (~david@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 20:47.55 | learnerAtWork | that is wierd.. hmmm |
| 20:48.04 | sussudio | Connecting To 68.33.166.139...Could not open a connection to host on port 25 : Connect failed |
| 20:48.08 | JBDiGriz | It didn't recognize HELO |
| 20:48.39 | learnerAtWork | telnet: connect to address 127.0.0.1: Connection refused |
| 20:49.00 | sussudio | telnet 127.0.0.1 |
| 20:49.03 | sussudio | Hello Dr Falken |
| 20:49.14 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 20:49.23 | JBDiGriz | I just got a different response, and then the connection closed. |
| 20:49.32 | learnerAtWork | play global thermonuclear war |
| 20:49.54 | sussudio | play bzflag |
| 20:50.06 | JBDiGriz | Connected to chr160dhcp1675.chrchv01.md.comcast.net. |
| 20:50.08 | sussudio | Sorry, Dr Falken, this 70s computer doesnt support opengl |
| 20:50.24 | bryjen | especially over telnet |
| 20:50.31 | sussudio | :-| |
| 20:51.07 | learnerAtWork | where's the part where joshua starts complaining about disk drive space and more memory? |
| 20:51.17 | learnerAtWork | and paster processors while they're at it |
| 20:51.28 | JBDiGriz | That was WarGames II |
| 20:51.46 | Patlabor221 | protocoll busting change incoming! :) |
| 20:51.57 | bryjen | pas'ter ketchup please |
| 20:52.02 | learnerAtWork | you know someone'll do it some day -- probably be some quantum deep-thought computer ai movie |
| 20:52.10 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Added drive and shoot thru flags to map format ( busts world compatablility) |
| 20:52.36 | Patlabor221 | ahh should have added "made parser not so damn picky" |
| 20:52.44 | JBDiGriz | Did anyone go through and fix the team/playerid problems? |
| 20:52.45 | bryjen | world shattering |
| 20:53.19 | Patlabor221 | chestal was talking about them recently iirc |
| 20:53.36 | bryjen | Chestal was working on them again. dont know if he got it all fixed up |
| 20:53.44 | Chestal | JBD: seems to work more or less |
| 20:54.00 | learnerAtWork | it works, just tk counts may be wrong |
| 20:54.02 | Chestal | JBD: that is, with both client and server using the newest code |
| 20:54.21 | Chestal | I haven't really tried after making the latest change |
| 20:54.35 | Chestal | which should help with the teamkills, but it needs testing |
| 20:55.00 | Patlabor221 | damn, what cxx file should I put the globals that are no longer const in? |
| 20:55.14 | Patlabor221 | like grav and worldsize? |
| 20:55.30 | Chestal | I still think it would be a good idea to have some easy means to make the server reject an incompatible client, just as it is rejecting pre-1.9 now, wheneevr we break protocol |
| 20:55.44 | Patlabor221 | that would be nice |
| 20:55.46 | JBDiGriz | The problem last night was changing teams when killed. The client died. |
| 20:55.50 | Chestal | Pat: go all the way and use the bzdb? |
| 20:56.05 | Patlabor221 | for world constants? |
| 20:56.13 | Chestal | hmm, maybe not, not sure |
| 20:56.20 | prot-work | Patlabor221: yes |
| 20:56.20 | Chestal | ask proton :-) |
| 20:56.24 | Patlabor221 | I thought that was for prefs and stuff? |
| 20:56.26 | learnerAtWork | that's fixed, Jb |
| 20:56.37 | Patlabor221 | not for stuff sent by server |
| 20:56.42 | Quol | just wanted to let you guys know that my new high speed servers are up and running...there is a CTF (ducati) style one and a FFA one... |
| 20:56.46 | prot-work | Patlabor221: in 1.8, the server told the client all the constants (such as gravity) by way of BZDB |
| 20:57.06 | Patlabor221 | sounds like a biger change then what I was planning |
| 20:57.08 | Quol | the servers are QOS'd down to 10MB, but they sit on dual redundant 100MB (2x100MB links0 right to the NET :) |
| 20:57.14 | Chestal | otherwise they shoudl probably go into World:: |
| 20:57.19 | JBDiGriz | Quol: What part of the world? |
| 20:57.24 | Patlabor221 | I was just gonna make the 2 existing const globals, be exerns |
| 20:57.42 | Quol | montreal canada.. |
| 20:57.55 | prot-work | Patlabor221: just don't put them in the world file... :P |
| 20:58.05 | Chestal | Pat: did you alreadfy fix the client, so it can cope with different sized worlds? |
| 20:58.13 | Patlabor221 | world size should be in the world file man |
| 20:58.18 | Patlabor221 | the world object and all |
| 20:58.19 | prot-work | yes |
| 20:58.21 | Patlabor221 | as shoudl grav |
| 20:58.22 | prot-work | but gravity should not |
| 20:58.33 | prot-work | gravity is a game option, not part of the map :P |
| 20:58.34 | Patlabor221 | you make the map based on the jump height |
| 20:58.44 | Patlabor221 | I can see it as an overidable optiopn |
| 20:58.57 | Patlabor221 | but the map should specify a default that is was designed for |
| 21:00.26 | Quol | good bye everyone... |
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| 21:00.53 | Chestal | gravity is part of the world for sure |
| 21:00.57 | Chestal | the world is more than the map |
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| 21:01.19 | Patlabor221 | I agree |
| 21:01.28 | Chestal | normally, gravity would be a bzfs option, but it migh tbe a good idea to be able to specify some defaults in the world file |
| 21:01.41 | JBDiGriz | If I designed a map for simulating Mars, I would want to define a default in the map. |
| 21:01.42 | Patlabor221 | that's what I am talking about |
| 21:01.43 | Chestal | this coudl include gravity, flag options etc. |
| 21:01.49 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 21:01.59 | Chestal | bzfs options would then override it of course |
| 21:02.24 | Patlabor221 | well I can't put the vaiable in world, since bzfs dosn't use world |
| 21:02.29 | Patlabor221 | but it does use these vars |
| 21:02.33 | Patlabor221 | or I can split them up |
| 21:02.53 | Patlabor221 | and have global.h just define a constant for a default. |
| 21:04.40 | Chestal | ah, hmm |
| 21:04.48 | Chestal | sevrer and client should probablx share more code |
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| 21:06.16 | Chestal | not sure what the best soluton is at this point |
| 21:06.43 | Patlabor221 | yes they should |
| 21:07.07 | Patlabor221 | I could add it to common |
| 21:12.57 | Patlabor221 | or not worry about it for 1.9 |
| 21:13.07 | Patlabor221 | just was looking for what would be easy |
| 21:13.30 | Patlabor221 | and the "world" map object was allready 75% implemented. |
| 21:14.10 | Chestal | I'd like to have worldsize in 1.9 |
| 21:14.16 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 21:14.28 | Patlabor221 | I'll just do that then |
| 21:14.36 | Chestal | don't care about gravity though :-) |
| 21:14.46 | Patlabor221 | worls size is allready sent, just not used |
| 21:15.06 | Patlabor221 | all I have to do is change this const to some sort of real variable and make sure it's inited in the right spot |
| 21:15.21 | Patlabor221 | tho I think it still asumes a square world allways |
| 21:15.22 | learnerAtWork | cool, so I get to have my huge playing field then? |
| 21:15.29 | Patlabor221 | yeah |
| 21:15.38 | Patlabor221 | if I can get it to init in the right spot |
| 21:15.53 | learnerAtWork | none of this 30 seconds to cross the map stuff.. |
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| 21:16.32 | Patlabor221 | made the map reader now just skip fields it dosn't know about too, so it can read maps from the future |
| 21:16.48 | Patlabor221 | just throws a warning |
| 21:18.12 | JBDiGriz | How does Saturday, July 12 at 1900 UTC sound for the network reorg meeting? |
| 21:18.31 | Chestal | maps from the future? have you seen one? |
| 21:18.54 | Chestal | JDB: can't say, do not know what movies my teatre will be showing on that day :-) |
| 21:18.58 | prot-work | Chestal: =) |
| 21:19.30 | JBDiGriz | Chestal: You're one of the reasons it's at 1900 rather than 2100. ;) |
| 21:20.12 | Chestal | JBD: in general it sounds like a good time for me |
| 21:20.22 | learnerAtWork | so, that's like 1500 or 3pm on the East coast |
| 21:20.30 | learnerAtWork | Sounds good to me |
| 21:20.38 | Chestal | nine in the evening for me |
| 21:20.40 | fiberchunks | JBDiGriz> that should be fine for me |
| 21:20.55 | prot-work | works for me |
| 21:21.47 | JBDiGriz | I'll put out the next announcement this evening along with pointers to enet, wipi, and Ben Baker's patch. Any other useful bits of info that will help prepare everyone? |
| 21:21.52 | bryjen | ~seen TimRiker |
| 21:21.52 | | timriker is currently on #opie (6h 13m 59s) #zaurus (6h 13m 59s) #elinux (6h 13m 59s) #openembedded (6h 13m 59s) #utah (6h 13m 59s) #bzflag (6h 13m 59s). Has said a total of 9 messages. Is idling for 5h 47m 30s |
| 21:21.52 | Patlabor221 | what was the "flagHeight" suposed to be in the world object? |
| 21:22.32 | learnerAtWork | 6-timing-no-good... |
| 21:22.37 | learnerAtWork | heheh :) |
| 21:24.46 | bryjen | Patlabor221: from bzfs.cxx : //The minimum height above ground an object must be in order to have a flag appear beneath it |
| 21:25.11 | Patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 21:25.19 | Patlabor221 | well I'm not implemtin that |
| 21:25.47 | bryjen | and it actually appears farther down in the code! |
| 21:26.07 | Patlabor221 | huh, well them maybe it works |
| 21:26.10 | Patlabor221 | I'll test it |
| 21:27.36 | bryjen | its used in WorldInfo::inBuilding() and resetFlag() |
| 21:28.59 | Patlabor221 | ok wow then it should work |
| 21:29.10 | bryjen | shouldnt that be The minimum height above *the object below it* an object must be in order to have a flag appear beneath it |
| 21:29.55 | bryjen | leading to flags on a box that's got another box stacked on it? |
| 21:30.07 | bryjen | ie inside the upper box |
| 21:32.37 | bryjen | s/leading to/otherwise you get |
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| 21:51.21 | bryjen | heh patlabor221 if's must've achieved critical ugliness and exploded ;) |
| 21:52.39 | Tupone | Someone as tryed the new client? Obstacle detection does not work anymore, at least to me |
| 21:53.11 | bryjen | patlabor221 was working on drive though and shoot though attributes for objects |
| 21:53.12 | JBDiGriz | Did you update the server as well as the client? |
| 21:53.43 | Tupone | Me! Yes but I trying again! to see if I forgot something. |
| 21:55.45 | Tupone | Now it work for me with my own bzfs. Can be the public are not updated |
| 21:56.32 | JBDiGriz | These changes occurred within the past hour, so the public servers probably aren't updated yet. |
| 21:56.35 | learnerAtWork | who were you on, Tupone? |
| 21:57.27 | learnerAtWork | my server should auto-update every 10 minutes now |
| 21:58.00 | learnerAtWork | haven't "made sure" it works yet though -- did it late last night |
| 21:58.13 | Tupone | nrlcad |
| 21:58.27 | learnerAtWork | it's in the middle of a rebuild right now, as a matter of fact.. |
| 21:58.32 | Tupone | brlcad and hit detection does not work |
| 21:58.47 | learnerAtWork | give it 5 min and try again |
| 21:58.54 | Tupone | :K |
| 22:00.12 | Tupone | Ducati gives me continously segfault. Should I debug? |
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| 22:00.27 | learnerAtWork | no, it's undoubtedly just out of date |
| 22:02.19 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: If someone makes a commit in the middle of testing your server, is it going to shutdown and reinstall? |
| 22:02.35 | learnerAtWork | no |
| 22:02.52 | learnerAtWork | once all players get off and the server restarts, it'll be the new server |
| 22:03.02 | learnerAtWork | rebuild happens in the background |
| 22:03.05 | JBDiGriz | Excellent! |
| 22:03.41 | learnerAtWork | Tupone, try again now |
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| 22:05.27 | Tupone | learnerAtWork: it is on? |
| 22:06.29 | learnerAtWork | yes |
| 22:09.54 | Patlabor221 | wow 25x25 worlds are REALY small :) |
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| 22:11.05 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: Added support for map size in world object. ( breaks server world compabability ). |
| 22:12.42 | Tupone | Works now, thanx. But wtf does the f key. I used to have my own flag name. Now, apart from mistic sound, disable shooting! |
| 22:13.10 | larsl_56k | Patlabor221: It won't compile in debug mode with g++; |
| 22:13.12 | larsl_56k | bzfs.cxx:1476: warning: unused parameter `WorldInfo*world' |
| 22:13.23 | Patlabor221 | ohh |
| 22:13.24 | Patlabor221 | hmm |
| 22:13.27 | Patlabor221 | ok |
| 22:15.33 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: fix for picky compilers. |
| 22:15.37 | Patlabor221 | there try that |
| 22:15.45 | Patlabor221 | odd that it complains on an unused paramater |
| 22:15.52 | Patlabor221 | what if you don't need to use it. |
| 22:16.15 | larsl_56k | Only in debug mode when -Werror is turned on (warnings become errors). |
| 22:16.16 | Tupone | You can just remove the name a leave the type |
| 22:16.31 | Patlabor221 | I did |
| 22:16.36 | Patlabor221 | but wierd |
| 22:16.39 | Patlabor221 | ahhhh |
| 22:16.45 | Patlabor221 | what a pain in the ass |
| 22:17.07 | larsl_56k | bzfs builds now, but I get errors in bzfls: |
| 22:17.22 | larsl_56k | While linking: |
| 22:17.24 | Patlabor221 | I didn't change bzfls |
| 22:17.27 | larsl_56k | bzfls.o(.text+0x3618):/home/ll/src/cvs/bzflag/src/bzfls/../../include/global.h:121: undefined reference to `WorldSize' |
| 22:17.39 | Patlabor221 | ohh damn it uses it too |
| 22:17.40 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 22:18.22 | learnerAtWork | Tupone, did it work? |
| 22:18.37 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: blarg |
| 22:18.40 | Tupone | Yah. Even if I don't understand something |
| 22:19.05 | larsl_56k | bzfls builds... |
| 22:19.06 | Tupone | I start as Yellow. Than change to white when another persons was in |
| 22:19.36 | Tupone | After that I come back with nobody in. And I start as white |
| 22:20.11 | Tupone | And I don't understand the f key. I used to have my own flag name. Now, apart from mistic sound, disable shooting! |
| 22:20.25 | larsl_56k | Everythin builds. |
| 22:20.27 | larsl_56k | g |
| 22:21.20 | CIA | commit by jeffm2501: no more negitive scales in maps (use the flags ) |
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| 22:24.30 | sussudio | ~nslookup irc.phazenet.com |
| 22:24.47 | sussudio | ... |
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| 22:29.30 | Patlabor221Work | what scene node is the pyramid? |
| 22:41.13 | larsl_56k | Hm, a lot of the source files in src/platform/MacOSX have executable mode on. |
| 22:42.10 | learnerAtWork | JBDiGriz: just got a response from Apple about the malloc performance problem |
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| 22:42.47 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: What did they say this time? |
| 22:43.22 | learnerAtWork | "the OS X malloc is tuned for large allocations for our objective C apps" ... |
| 22:44.00 | learnerAtWork | "the test basically concludes that not all mallocs are created equal" |
| 22:44.20 | learnerAtWork | "smaller allocations are better handled with other coding rather than relying on the malloc process" |
| 22:44.42 | learnerAtWork | basically says that if you're not a cocoa app, tough luck |
| 22:44.50 | learnerAtWork | no mention of 10.3, though |
| 22:45.04 | sussudio | [Lub0 ()PZ->] fuk u wanker |
| 22:45.04 | sussudio | [Lub0 ()PZ->] u die u piece of shit |
| 22:45.09 | sussudio | what a nice fellow, eh? |
| 22:45.16 | JBDiGriz | Was there a name attached to the email? |
| 22:45.35 | Patlabor221Work | the funked up malloc? |
| 22:45.49 | Patlabor221Work | why would they change it? |
| 22:46.03 | learnerAtWork | it's from our Apple contact, the engineer who wrote it isn't listed |
| 22:46.18 | learnerAtWork | the apple malloc has "issues" pat |
| 22:47.00 | JBDiGriz | Maybe we should look at some of the other allocation mechanisms? |
| 22:47.39 | learnerAtWork | I don't think it really matters on a single-app level -- it's more of a bigger system issue |
| 22:49.20 | JBDiGriz | But that's why there are several memory allocation mechanisms available. Every app has slightly different behavior, and the system is tuned for a particular style of application. |
| 22:50.02 | learnerAtWork | the problem is that I think the answer is still BS... even for Cocoa apps |
| 22:50.15 | learnerAtWork | if you run MallocDebug, you see slews of smaller mallocs |
| 22:50.20 | CIA | commit by atupone: shell operator "==" not implemented on old bash, and is not docum in the newer |
| 22:50.39 | learnerAtWork | his claim is that Cocoa apps are doing larger mallocs.. |
| 22:50.46 | JBDiGriz | That may be, but I would want to see what they're using for their analysis. |
| 22:51.10 | learnerAtWork | I think his "larger" is still < (pagesize * 4) which is horrible performance |
| 22:51.47 | learnerAtWork | I mean it almost sounds like a developer cop-out to be honest |
| 22:52.06 | JBDiGriz | It may never have reached a developer. |
| 22:52.45 | learnerAtWork | perhaps |
| 22:53.21 | JBDiGriz | And several of the darwin developers on the mailing list didn't seem to understand memory allocation. |
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| 22:54.31 | learnerAtWork | the one guy who found it "uninteresting" does have a point in that malloc performance matters less for large allocation sizes in real worlds apps |
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| 22:54.46 | learnerAtWork | just that is not what the analysis is about |
| 22:54.51 | MrFish | hello |
| 22:54.59 | sussudio | hello MrPig |
| 22:56.23 | MrFish | :) |
| 22:56.56 | learnerAtWork | er, not MallocDebug -- I meant ObjectAlloc |
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| 22:59.47 | MrFish | talkative aren't we? :) |
| 23:01.03 | MrFish | wibble |
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| 23:15.12 | Patlabor221Work | hmmm colisions on fliped pyrmaids are "wierd" |
| 23:19.14 | Patlabor221Work | ummmm we have an issue that I don't know how to fix |
| 23:19.29 | Patlabor221Work | we don't handle shots that go below z0 |
| 23:19.33 | Patlabor221Work | what should they do? |
| 23:19.34 | Patlabor221Work | bounce? |
| 23:20.43 | JBDiGriz | If they bounce, wouldn't they reflect back at the pyramid, and then back at the shooter? |
| 23:21.12 | Patlabor221Work | not if you just make them bounce in Z |
| 23:21.21 | Patlabor221Work | not a full reversal |
| 23:22.11 | Patlabor221Work | I added an option to the map called flipZ that lets you define a 'real' updside down pyramid, cus people were using negitive z scales for it |
| 23:22.24 | Patlabor221Work | but now that they collide real, it's easy to get stuck in them |
| 23:22.39 | Patlabor221Work | so this option does a proper z revesal of all the pyrmaid stuff |
| 23:22.51 | Patlabor221Work | works fine, just now it's easy to get shots to go into the ground :) |
| 23:23.06 | Patlabor221Work | and the ground is drawn with no z buffer so it looks wierd |
| 23:25.34 | Nidhoggr | hour and a half left at work. |
| 23:26.10 | bzdoug | I hope you dont say that out loud |
| 23:26.20 | Nidhoggr | I usually do :) |
| 23:26.21 | sussudio | ~sud |
| 23:26.22 | | shut up doug |
| 23:26.27 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork is only half way through his day at work :{) |
| 23:26.34 | Nidhoggr | su su sudio! |
| 23:26.35 | bzdoug | hehee |
| 23:27.40 | learnerAtWork | heheh, I think I'll leave "early" today :) |
| 23:27.42 | Nidhoggr | I think I'm finally adjusting to the eye stuff they did yesterday. :( they had to put callagen plugs in my tear ducts to keep the tears from draining away. |
| 23:27.50 | Nidhoggr | has been very painful all day. |
| 23:27.59 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: It's a little late to be leaving "early" |
| 23:28.06 | learnerAtWork | early==pre-9pm |
| 23:28.06 | bzdoug | they put corks in your eyes... ;) |
| 23:28.16 | Nidhoggr | yup |
| 23:28.16 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 23:28.21 | bzdoug | painfull |
| 23:28.22 | bzdoug | :) |
| 23:28.42 | learnerAtWork | Don't cry Nidhoggr, you'll feel better |
| 23:29.25 | david_v | bzdoug: hey there |
| 23:30.04 | Nidhoggr | learner: I'm just a little frustrated, but I'm sure I'll be okay eventually. |
| 23:30.17 | Nidhoggr | I had severe dry eye syndrome right after my surgery. |
| 23:30.24 | JBDiGriz | Nidhoggr: it sounds like the lasik didn't go as easily as usual |
| 23:30.50 | Nidhoggr | my left eye is okay.. but my right one is suffering a bit. |
| 23:30.56 | learnerAtWork | sry to hear that, nid |
| 23:30.58 | Nidhoggr | they're treating it though. |
| 23:31.17 | bzdoug | when will you get your eyes back from tech support? |
| 23:31.19 | Nidhoggr | the medication to make me tear made my cry just buying it! |
| 23:31.23 | JBDiGriz | Did they do both eyes at once? I had two separate procedures, but I had a patch over each eye for about 24 hrs. |
| 23:31.37 | Nidhoggr | both at once. |
| 23:31.45 | Nidhoggr | left eye is great, though, fortunately. |
| 23:31.55 | Nidhoggr | right one is just now starting to feel better a little. |
| 23:32.00 | Nidhoggr | not as swollen |
| 23:32.05 | JBDiGriz | What was your vision immediately after surgery? |
| 23:32.11 | Nidhoggr | and my body is adjusting to the plugs. |
| 23:32.20 | Nidhoggr | 20/30... and 20/25 yesterday. |
| 23:32.36 | Nidhoggr | I'm well on my way to 20/20 |
| 23:32.43 | Nidhoggr | just a little bump in the road. |
| 23:32.44 | JBDiGriz | Good! |
| 23:33.07 | Nidhoggr | my closeup is 20/10 |
| 23:33.08 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 23:33.14 | Nidhoggr | that's my left eye though. |
| 23:33.31 | Nidhoggr | I have a monovision correction. |
| 23:33.40 | JBDiGriz | Working on monitors doesn't help dry eye syndrome! Make sure you spend time away from the machines. |
| 23:33.47 | Nidhoggr | I am trying |
| 23:33.57 | Nidhoggr | and I'm in a super breezy datacenter. |
| 23:34.04 | bzdoug | just keep peering into cameras :) |
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| 23:34.23 | Nidhoggr | I wanna find a vanity sleeping mask to protect my eyes from breezy AC at night. |
| 23:34.40 | bzdoug | Nidhoggr: lucky, our server room is like, roasting when the cold people go in |
| 23:34.53 | JBDiGriz | not to mention the nice "moist" air between buildings! |
| 23:34.55 | bzdoug | have to keep adjusting it back down :P |
| 23:36.05 | sussudio | Nidhoggr: want to put a map of mine up? |
| 23:36.38 | larsl_56k | Patlabor221Work: I've seen shots going below z = 0 in 1.7 clients too. I think they should bounce back up. |
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| 23:36.57 | Nidhoggr | sussudio, sure! email it to mandrake@dragon.org, and I'll work on setting it up when I get home. |
| 23:37.02 | Nidhoggr | it may go on dragon.org |
| 23:37.08 | Patlabor221Work | I am looking to see how to make them bouce |
| 23:37.19 | Nidhoggr | sussudio, also put suggested flags, etc. |
| 23:37.29 | Patlabor221Work | or blow, if there is now rico |
| 23:37.29 | sussudio | hm email |
| 23:37.40 | Nidhoggr | can you dcc it? |
| 23:38.22 | Nidhoggr | is it okay with 2 shot server? |
| 23:39.21 | Patlabor221Work | hmmm shot strat is realy only looking for "things" |
| 23:39.50 | Patlabor221Work | doug go talk to REAL people |
| 23:40.47 | bzdoug | thats.. unethical |
| 23:41.06 | sussudio | ~dict unethical |
| 23:41.22 | bzdoug | exactly |
| 23:41.30 | sussudio | ~dict antisocial |
| 23:44.12 | Patlabor221Work | should supper bullets just blow up? |
| 23:45.33 | larsl_56k | Patlabor221Work: Yes, it should probably be like the outer walls. |
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| 23:50.55 | Patlabor221Work | crap |
| 23:51.01 | Patlabor221Work | we don't do V right |
| 23:51.04 | Patlabor221Work | for shots |
| 23:53.21 | Nidhoggr | how hard would an external ban list file be to do, where it writes bans to a file so they stick between restarts? |
| 23:53.37 | larsl_56k | Not hard at all. |
| 23:53.56 | Nidhoggr | my ban section in my .conf files are getting stupid. |
| 23:54.50 | Nidhoggr | I finally datestamped my logs files, so they aren't overwritten every time I run the server :) |
| 23:55.17 | larsl_56k | You could also use >> instead of > =) |
| 23:55.23 | Nidhoggr | true |
| 23:55.25 | larsl_56k | But datestamping is nice. |
| 23:55.31 | Nidhoggr | nod |
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| 23:56.09 | Patlabor221Work | grrrr what is the endpoint of the current segment !!!! |
| 23:56.39 | sussudio | bunnies? |
| 23:56.45 | Patlabor221Work | nope |
| 23:56.55 | Nidhoggr | chroot /usr/games/bzflag /bzfs -conf /conf/spirals.cf > logs/spirals.`date +%y%j%I%M`.log 2>&1 & <--my bzflag command line. :) |
| 23:56.57 | sussudio | ^bunnies |
| 23:57.31 | Nidhoggr | err bzfs command line |
| 23:58.17 | sussudio | spirals :-| |
| 23:58.50 | learnerAtWork | for those of you who weren't here last night, the brlcad.org server dumps it's -d -d -d bzfs logging out to http://brlcad.org/server.log |
| 23:59.10 | learnerAtWork | that way you all can debug with a current server for those of you who can't run one |
| 23:59.17 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 23:59.37 | Nidhoggr | at least I can start scripting booting of bad callsigns. |
| 23:59.44 | bzdoug | hehe |
| 23:59.45 | Nidhoggr | thanks to larsl! |
| 23:59.58 | sussudio | Nidhoggr: lub0*.* |