| 00:00.54 | Chikorita | wut iz a RPC vulnerablity thingie? |
| 00:01.05 | learnerAtWork | remote procedure call |
| 00:01.10 | Chikorita | ooH |
| 00:02.18 | tea|tree_ | [dmp] |
| 00:02.19 | tea|tree_ | ? |
| 00:02.20 | Chikorita | neva mind it not a virus itz jus an app. flaw |
| 00:02.33 | captain_proton | Chikorita: update your windows and you'll be fine |
| 00:02.55 | Chikorita | yea datz wut it sed 2 do |
| 00:03.41 | [dmp] | yes, tea|tree_ |
| 00:04.04 | tea|tree_ | its ok |
| 00:04.23 | tea|tree_ | delete one match |
| 00:04.23 | tea|tree_ | ^^ |
| 00:04.31 | tea|tree_ | one time 9-3 |
| 00:04.34 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.babylonia.flatirons.org/navi-1.jpg |
| 00:04.56 | [dmp] | tea|tree_: im not sure than i can do that right now. having trouble with the site |
| 00:05.01 | tea|tree_ | and why are the last 5 matches red |
| 00:05.02 | tea|tree_ | ^^ |
| 00:05.26 | [dmp] | tea|tree_: because they are new since you last login |
| 00:05.33 | tea|tree_ | aaaah |
| 00:05.37 | tea|tree_ | ^ |
| 00:06.16 | [dmp] | I cant access bzflag.org just now :-( |
| 00:06.40 | tea|tree_ | hmm |
| 00:07.15 | learnerAtWork | [dmp]: you didn't want to, right? |
| 00:07.23 | [dmp] | I've written it on a postit and put it in a very visible spot |
| 00:07.35 | [dmp] | learnerAtWork: Yes i would :) |
| 00:08.36 | [dmp] | I get timeouts |
| 00:08.57 | learnerAtWork | you need something in particular or just want it working? :) |
| 00:09.11 | [dmp] | i want to access the database and remove a match :) |
| 00:09.26 | learnerAtWork | ah, can't help you there, I guess |
| 00:10.18 | [dmp] | Seems to be the same problem as before. |
| 00:10.19 | [dmp] | :( |
| 00:10.26 | [dmp] | i cannot access anything. |
| 00:10.39 | [dmp] | (if a dns-lookup is required) |
| 00:11.07 | learnerAtWork | ah |
| 00:11.42 | learnerAtWork | interesting.. the "license" link on the main page leads to the LICENSE file that now resides in Attic in CVS :) |
| 00:11.58 | learnerAtWork | hehe, that should be fixed :) |
| 00:12.17 | [dmp] | ~dict attic |
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| 00:12.31 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 00:12.48 | learnerAtWork | lol |
| 00:13.00 | learnerAtWork | [dmp]: attic is where the deleted files go |
| 00:13.07 | [dmp] | Thanks :) |
| 00:13.23 | [dmp] | I was trying to make sense out of it :) |
| 00:13.30 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 00:14.16 | learnerAtWork | it puts them up in "the attic" in case someone ever requests a revision of the file prior to deletion |
| 00:14.26 | TimRiker | ~xmission |
| 00:14.34 | TimRiker | ~xmission |
| 00:14.45 | TimRiker | stinking server bug. |
| 00:14.50 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 00:15.01 | learnerAtWork | ~quol |
| 00:15.08 | TimRiker | xmission shows 9 players there, but there are 15 connections. |
| 00:15.13 | TimRiker | ~xmission |
| 00:15.35 | learnerAtWork | quol's been seeing massive overconnections as well |
| 00:16.35 | TimRiker | tracked from where? |
| 00:16.43 | learnerAtWork | said Chestal said it was a known bug.. |
| 00:17.03 | learnerAtWork | what does netstat say they're from? |
| 00:17.07 | learnerAtWork | list server? |
| 00:17.09 | Chikorita | do observers count as connections , buh not as playerz? |
| 00:17.46 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 00:18.20 | Chikorita | ~bzflist |
| 00:18.32 | TimRiker | yeah, but I didn't have that many observers allowed. |
| 00:18.37 | TimRiker | ~xmission |
| 00:18.38 | Chikorita | o i c |
| 00:18.39 | learnerAtWork | are asdf and killer just lurking there? they've been there all day |
| 00:19.00 | Chikorita | heh |
| 00:19.39 | [dmp] | learnerAtWork: yes. |
| 00:20.03 | learnerAtWork | i think quol quoted having over 25 open/stale connections on friday |
| 00:20.05 | Chikorita | asdf seem very depressed bout spiff leavin da team |
| 00:20.08 | TimRiker | folks on xmission are having a cow not understanding what happened. heh. shows how stable the servers are now I guess. ;-) |
| 00:20.17 | Chikorita | buh i tried 2 cheer him upz :) |
| 00:20.32 | Chikorita | lol tim |
| 00:20.32 | learnerAtWork | heh, you didn't warn them tim? :) |
| 00:21.01 | learnerAtWork | chat.py works great for that kind of stuff :) |
| 00:21.05 | bzgirl | Chikorita: he actually left the team? |
| 00:21.17 | Chikorita | <<<had an xmission cow once,,,wundered wut had happened ... |
| 00:21.25 | Chikorita | no i knowz |
| 00:21.26 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 00:21.33 | tea|tree_ | Chikorita: thats true with asdf |
| 00:21.35 | learnerAtWork | that's what he said in his bzbb post -- that he had passed the reins over to asdf |
| 00:21.39 | Chikorita | bzgirl: ya |
| 00:21.52 | tea|tree_ | he is really angry that Spiff is away for a while |
| 00:21.57 | tea|tree_ | but spiff didnt leave the time |
| 00:22.12 | learnerAtWork | he'll live |
| 00:22.17 | tea|tree_ | really? |
| 00:22.20 | Chikorita | i told asdf not 2 worry spiff wil b back , an dat he stil has freelancer as a teamie an can play matches |
| 00:22.20 | tea|tree_ | i dont think so |
| 00:22.49 | tea|tree_ | Chikorita: but spiff isnt free , and he lost a good player in his team |
| 00:23.03 | Chikorita | spiff made asdf captain of TAF now |
| 00:23.20 | tea|tree_ | Chikorita: he is looking people who will join the team but most dont wont to :( |
| 00:23.35 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 00:24.03 | Chikorita | spiff sez asdf wil b fine wifout him |
| 00:24.16 | TimRiker | learnerAtWork: nope. shoulda, but I didn't. |
| 00:24.18 | Chikorita | spiff jus IMed not 2 long ago an wee chatted |
| 00:24.26 | learnerAtWork | asdf's one of the best players out there -- he'll deal |
| 00:24.37 | Chikorita | ya he'll deal |
| 00:24.39 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 00:24.56 | Chikorita | freelancer iz a big boy 2 he can take care of himself im sure ;) |
| 00:25.03 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 00:26.18 | TimRiker | http://list.bzflag.org/xmission.html <- note the "leaked" user spots over the last 3 weeks that have _not_ been there at all before that point. |
| 00:26.36 | TimRiker | I suspect chat.py or similar is causing them. Something recent anyway. |
| 00:26.56 | learnerAtWork | perhaps -- though all of that is supposed to be 1.9 afaik |
| 00:28.19 | TimRiker | learnerAtWork: I mean that now people might be using new tools to open connections but not login or similar. |
| 00:28.42 | TimRiker | need to fix the servers to handle it by detecting it and kicking the inactive sessions. |
| 00:29.04 | TimRiker | nothing wrong with a chat.py app, just that it has brought up a new admin issue. ;-) |
| 00:29.19 | learnerAtWork | right, I know .. though I can't imagine what tools would be doing that to 1.7 servers |
| 00:29.32 | learnerAtWork | except maybe bzadmin |
| 00:30.18 | Chikorita | lol umm okkaay |
| 00:30.18 | captain_proton | chat.py is only 1.9 |
| 00:30.22 | captain_proton | possibly lars' client |
| 00:30.30 | learnerAtWork | lars has a client? |
| 00:30.37 | captain_proton | his admin thingy |
| 00:30.58 | learnerAtWork | ah -- didn't know larsl did that (er, now I remember, but okay) :) |
| 00:31.14 | Chikorita | i take mah nap now ...finally a get a break from all dese IMs i was gettin :p |
| 00:31.47 | TimRiker | different than bzadmin? |
| 00:31.56 | Chikorita | -.- |
| 00:32.52 | captain_proton | TimRiker: no |
| 00:33.12 | learnerAtWork | Tim, want me to connect with bzadmin for a looksee? |
| 00:39.01 | *** join/#bzflag BZSpiff (~BZSpiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 00:40.21 | BZSpiff | Hey all. :-) |
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| 00:40.31 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 00:40.34 | Chikorita | hi spiffy |
| 00:40.35 | TimRiker | nope. hacking up bzfquery.pl now. |
| 00:40.47 | Chikorita | ugh jus wen i was startin 2 doze off |
| 00:42.02 | Chikorita | spiff u really need 2 talk wif asdf he seems 2 have seperation anxiety thinks u r leavin 4eva |
| 00:43.10 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 00:43.16 | BZSpiff | Actually.. I have been talking to him. :-) |
| 00:43.18 | Chikorita | ok back 2 mah virtual sleepin bag... |
| 00:43.26 | Chikorita | dats good |
| 00:43.35 | Chikorita | <<<afk |
| 00:44.44 | BZSpiff | Sorta worried about free though..... after TLZ stomped them.. he left.. and neither asdf or I have heard from him. |
| 00:44.48 | BZSpiff | I think he's discouraged. :-( |
| 00:45.13 | learnerAtWork | so his fears are justified since you've been talking to him? :) |
| 00:46.41 | bzgirl | spiff what brought all this on? |
| 00:46.54 | bzgirl | your simply playing too much? |
| 00:47.08 | bzgirl | or the bickering getting to you? |
| 00:47.55 | bzgirl | am i nr? |
| 00:47.56 | bzgirl | :) |
| 00:48.10 | BZSpiff | Hehe bzgirl. I've just been spending too much time on here... and online in general. And with a move coming up and all.... I'm going to be around less anyway. |
| 00:48.41 | bzgirl | well, theres no such thing as being online too much, is there? :) |
| 00:48.50 | bzgirl | ask anyone here |
| 00:48.58 | learnerAtWork | too much? who? whaa?? bah! |
| 00:49.05 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 00:50.02 | [dmp] | too much? thats when you're online at least 25/hours a day. If you are below 25, you have no worries :) |
| 00:50.12 | Chikorita | heh |
| 00:50.19 | BZSpiff | LoL. Okay........ too much for ME. :-) |
| 00:50.37 | [dmp] | Well, install linux then :) |
| 00:50.51 | learnerAtWork | yea, getting that done will take at least 25 hours a day |
| 00:50.59 | [dmp] | :) |
| 00:51.13 | Chikorita | i dunt blame spiff , spiff has his reasons ...wen u do get sum time BZ wil alwayz b there waitin :) |
| 00:52.03 | CIA | 03timriker 08v1_7 * 12bzflag/misc (bzfquery.pl): show ip and compress output |
| 00:52.13 | bzgirl | we should move bz when hes gone |
| 00:52.19 | Chikorita | lol |
| 00:52.33 | TimRiker | learnerAtWork: connect with bzadmin now so I can test my script? |
| 00:52.35 | Chikorita | i only play 4 hours aday i such a bz slacker ;P |
| 00:52.40 | BZSpiff | Yep yep. I think I can live without it tho.... hehehe. |
| 00:52.45 | learnerAtWork | Tim: give me a couple minutes |
| 00:52.56 | TimRiker | ~xmission |
| 00:53.52 | Chikorita | spiff if u leave BZ i wil send evil nuggy 2 hunt u down an tie u 2 a puter wif BZ as da only program on it |
| 00:53.59 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 00:54.08 | Chikorita | j/k |
| 00:54.25 | BZSpiff | I'll probabily be spending more time connected to IRC and IM once I've moved.. because I'll have my own PC to access it from. :-) |
| 00:54.25 | tea|tree_ | hey Spiff |
| 00:54.35 | BZSpiff | LoL. |
| 00:54.38 | tea|tree_ | we played asdf and free today |
| 00:54.45 | BZSpiff | Yes.. I know that. :-P |
| 00:54.53 | tea|tree_ | u where missing :( |
| 00:55.08 | tea|tree_ | brb |
| 00:55.12 | [dmp] | tea|tree_: i've removed the double-entry. so everything should be fine, |
| 00:56.36 | BZSpiff | Missing.. yep... I guess so. asdf and [] Wildcard should be able to handle you while I'm away. |
| 00:56.46 | tea|tree_ | oh good |
| 00:56.49 | tea|tree_ | thx dmp |
| 00:56.57 | tea|tree_ | Wildcard is free |
| 00:56.59 | tea|tree_ | aaaaaaaaaaah |
| 00:57.00 | TimRiker | someone attach to xmission as an observer? |
| 00:57.06 | tea|tree_ | yeah |
| 00:57.07 | tea|tree_ | i can |
| 00:57.08 | tea|tree_ | why? |
| 00:57.24 | TimRiker | testing bzfquery.pl |
| 00:57.52 | tea|tree_ | im observig |
| 00:57.55 | learnerAtWork | ready tim, 1.7 or 1.8? |
| 00:57.57 | [dmp] | Night people. |
| 00:58.03 | tea|tree_ | nite dmp |
| 00:58.10 | TimRiker | learnerAtWork: 1.7 |
| 00:58.14 | Chikorita | bye dmpee |
| 00:58.19 | BZSpiff | C-ya dmp. Have a good night. :-) |
| 00:58.22 | TimRiker | ~xmission |
| 00:58.25 | Chikorita | ooH freelancer=wildcard |
| 00:58.34 | TimRiker | tea|tree_: thx. icu |
| 00:59.25 | BZSpiff | Nah. LoL |
| 00:59.36 | TimRiker | learnerAtWork: you on? |
| 00:59.40 | BZSpiff | You should see Wildcard play. Hehehehehe. |
| 00:59.45 | tea|tree_ | hehe |
| 00:59.46 | Chikorita | u peepz an ur secret callsigns , heh |
| 01:00.00 | tea|tree_ | i have lots of callsigns ;) |
| 01:00.06 | Chikorita | o? |
| 01:00.16 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 01:00.29 | BZSpiff | Me too. FantaZee, TeaZee, asdf, Wildcard, BeZee, etc. |
| 01:00.30 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 01:00.36 | Chikorita | dunt tell mee booger iz one of dem... |
| 01:00.45 | Chikorita | lol spiff |
| 01:00.50 | bzgirl | spiff is wildcard |
| 01:00.52 | BZSpiff | That's Tea's sucky alter-ego, Chik. |
| 01:00.53 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 01:00.58 | tea|tree_ | ;) |
| 01:01.04 | BZSpiff | Says who? :-) |
| 01:01.04 | Chikorita | ok now yall messin wif mah head , dang |
| 01:01.07 | tea|tree_ | TimRiker ?! where are u |
| 01:01.24 | TimRiker | tea|tree_: not on, testing with a remote script. |
| 01:01.25 | bzgirl | spiff: says me :) |
| 01:01.38 | Chikorita | spiff gonna "go away" an jus come back as Mighty Mouse i bet hmmm |
| 01:01.47 | TimRiker | player @-tea|tree- ()(Rogue team) is a tank: score: 0 (0 wins, 0 losses) 217.x.x.x:x |
| 01:01.55 | tea|tree_ | ^^ |
| 01:02.07 | tea|tree_ | what im i sleeping there fore |
| 01:02.12 | tea|tree_ | 3 am here ^^ |
| 01:02.35 | TimRiker | learnerAtWork: you loggin on or not? |
| 01:03.10 | tea|tree_ | bzflag should move to quakenet.org |
| 01:03.13 | tea|tree_ | not freenode |
| 01:03.20 | TimRiker | heh |
| 01:03.33 | tea|tree_ | www.quaknet.org |
| 01:03.35 | learnerAtWork | what's the ip? |
| 01:03.42 | learnerAtWork | and port |
| 01:03.50 | tea|tree_ | irc.quakenet.eu.org:6667 |
| 01:03.54 | TimRiker | ~nslookup xmission.bzflag.org |
| 01:03.58 | tea|tree_ | thats where i am on most of the time |
| 01:04.03 | TimRiker | port 5155 |
| 01:04.30 | learnerAtWork | I'm in |
| 01:04.39 | Chikorita | ~xmission |
| 01:04.46 | BZSpiff | Mighty Mouse, eh? ;-) |
| 01:04.49 | Chikorita | heehe dats mee |
| 01:05.07 | Chikorita | i c mahself |
| 01:05.31 | BZSpiff | Isn't it easier to just look in a mirror? ;-) |
| 01:05.41 | TimRiker | k. script looks good. I get that info above, plus all the IPs so I can track the connects on the server. thanx all. |
| 01:06.55 | learnerAtWork | how's the connections looking tim? |
| 01:07.37 | TimRiker | lookin fine. have to let it run for a few days and watch the stats. headed home. thanx all. |
| 01:08.08 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 01:08.15 | captain_proton | why should #bzflag move elsewhere? |
| 01:08.29 | BZSpiff | ;-) |
| 01:08.37 | Chikorita | haha |
| 01:09.20 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 01:09.25 | tea|tree | ZzzZzz |
| 01:09.31 | BZSpiff | I must be a zombie now..... ;-) |
| 01:09.32 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 01:09.40 | Chikorita | lol |
| 01:10.03 | Chikorita | zombie! ahhh |
| 01:10.53 | Chikorita | dat remindz mee |
| 01:11.35 | Chikorita | Rob ZomBIE ROX |
| 01:11.52 | BZSpiff | Be ware... |
| 01:11.53 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 01:11.55 | BZSpiff | :-) |
| 01:11.58 | Chikorita | i betta take a nap b4 i really turn into a zombie tomorrow |
| 01:12.44 | Chikorita | <<<in sleep mode |
| 01:13.14 | BZSpiff | Hehe. That'd pry be good then Chik. :-) |
| 01:13.32 | BZSpiff | There are already enough "un-dead" BZ players.. we don't need one more. ;-) |
| 01:25.18 | BZSpiff | Laterz all. |
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| 02:01.18 | MrApathyCream | yay for chestal! |
| 02:07.55 | MrApathyCream | whatcha doin to the chiko, das not a good thing, man |
| 02:08.32 | scanline | well, apparently there be soda in that there fridge... |
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| 02:19.40 | SGI | hello |
| 02:19.54 | SGI | _seen quol |
| 02:20.00 | SGI | ~seen quol |
| 02:20.00 | | quol <~Quol@modemcable052.11-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 22h 33m 42s ago, saying: 'g'night all'. |
| 02:22.52 | SGI | ~bzgirl |
| 02:22.53 | | [bzgirl] the coolest around |
| 02:23.02 | SGI | ~seen bzgirl |
| 02:23.02 | | bzgirl <~orchid@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1h 21m 37s ago, saying: 'spiff: says me :)'. |
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| 02:34.50 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (8 files in 4 dirs): clean up after cappy. NOTE to the worried: It is fully understood that BZDB->eval's need to be cached on a local and global scale |
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| 03:05.58 | MrApathyCream | :) |
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| 03:30.40 | learner | hehe, I think sgi and quol come in here just to play tag :) |
| 03:31.29 | learner | oooh.. cap's playing eh? |
| 03:31.33 | learner | ~d |
| 03:31.46 | learner | ~quol |
| 03:32.05 | learner | hrm.. what is that pistachio guy |
| 03:36.58 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (9 files in 4 dirs): More eval changes |
| 03:51.41 | captain_proton | pistachio guy? |
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| 03:56.43 | Carnage | any admins for ducati on? |
| 04:07.42 | MrApathyCream | yes! |
| 04:07.48 | MrApathyCream | oh, rats |
| 04:19.12 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Put global eval caching into StateDatabase |
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| 04:34.49 | MrApathyCream | ? |
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| 04:40.14 | CIA | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src (6 files in 2 dirs): Some simple local caching of eval vars |
| 04:42.10 | MrApathyCream | any *nix dudes verify that the code still builds? |
| 04:46.58 | captain_proton | or...-attempts- to build |
| 04:46.59 | captain_proton | we'll see |
| 04:50.23 | MrApathyCream | k |
| 04:50.40 | captain_proton | builds |
| 04:51.00 | MrApathyCream | w00t |
| 04:51.46 | captain_proton | =) |
| 05:01.45 | *** part/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-226-15.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 05:17.17 | learner | oh, we're building now? |
| 05:17.25 | captain_proton | i'm building |
| 05:18.19 | learner | cap, where were you playing? |
| 05:18.29 | learner | tried finding you to no avail |
| 05:18.49 | captain_proton | i didn't play for very long |
| 05:18.54 | captain_proton | care to play some? :) |
| 05:18.56 | learner | bah! |
| 05:19.02 | learner | sure :) |
| 05:19.24 | captain_proton | whereabouts? |
| 05:19.33 | learner | is rose up? |
| 05:19.35 | learner | ~rose |
| 05:19.44 | learner | there we go :) |
| 05:19.54 | captain_proton | ~literal rose |
| 05:19.55 | | rose is <reply> see bzfquery bzflag.rosemeyers.net:5155 |
| 05:19.58 | captain_proton | k |
| 05:20.37 | learner | hrm, rose isn't on the public -- *shrug* |
| 05:57.57 | learner | ahh.. that was fun |
| 05:59.06 | captain_proton | probably about a year ago |
| 05:59.19 | learner | which team? moles? |
| 05:59.38 | captain_proton | i was part of meq, which wasn't really too much of a team |
| 06:00.26 | captain_proton | it was the best of the decks players |
| 06:00.30 | captain_proton | so it wasn't that great a ctf team |
| 06:00.39 | learner | heh |
| 06:00.48 | learner | no decks league? :) |
| 06:02.03 | captain_proton | i want to make a decks league |
| 06:02.15 | captain_proton | hmm, nifty xpilot server |
| 06:02.17 | captain_proton | 'laser doggy' |
| 06:03.21 | learner | you're already up to 50? sheesh |
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| 06:48.57 | learner | actually made it up to 200 without you there :P |
| 06:49.16 | learner | even with a couple other humans |
| 06:53.07 | learner | we are now building and brlcad's bzfs is back up and running |
| 06:53.12 | captain_proton | neato |
| 06:55.40 | learner | hmm.. fiber should be back home now |
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| 08:06.56 | bomber | moin |
| 08:07.03 | captain_proton | learnerMobile: thats a great website you linked to on bzbb |
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| 08:54.42 | strayer | good morning... :| |
| 09:18.07 | bomber | hey strayer |
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| 10:18.18 | [dmp] | Darn. A dog survived 68 days without food. |
| 10:24.48 | strayer | wow... |
| 10:25.58 | strayer | [dmp]: I decided to use phplib...because it's easy to use :o) |
| 10:26.17 | [dmp] | as template? |
| 10:26.30 | strayer | yes |
| 10:26.58 | [dmp] | never used it. But I got the feeling its abit outdated by alot of the newer-features in php and pear. |
| 10:27.21 | [dmp] | But good luck with it :) |
| 10:27.44 | strayer | ;P ...ok, I will see |
| 10:30.02 | strayer | I think I will need around 3 hours to reorganize my website...what a time exposure.. :/ |
| 10:33.49 | strayer | yeah...smarty has to much functions to be a simple template-class... |
| 10:36.49 | strayer | btw...why have so many template-classes a if-then-else-functionality included? > it doesn't make any sense to seperate the logical PHP- and the HTML-code when I use such al logical function in the template...right? |
| 10:38.18 | [dmp] | Well, it depends.. you could use a if (layout-wise) to show a box with info, if you got any info to show. |
| 10:38.48 | [dmp] | Show a special menu, if you got admin-access if(admin==true) .. |
| 10:40.09 | strayer | hm...but then U don't have to use this.....I tried it with phplib and I found another way to realize such a logical structure but without this 'if-then-else'... |
| 10:40.38 | strayer | but maybe this works with phplib only... |
| 10:41.58 | [dmp] | I dont know phplib. As i told you, i use php for templating. Not some slow-mini-language-implemented-in-php :-) |
| 10:43.30 | strayer | nanana.....ok :) |
| 10:44.22 | strayer | when U have time (someday in a far far future) U can show me how U do it... |
| 10:48.20 | [dmp] | Its quite simpel actually. I got a template class with a get('name-of-data') and set('name-of-data','value-of-data').. My main code finds the logic-file that needs to be used for the particular page and involkes it. A part of the logic tells me which template-file (eg set('template','welcome.php')) is matching the logic. The rest of the logic do whatever it needs to and store the stuff in the template-class. .. Logic is done, back to main. It uses |
| 10:48.20 | [dmp] | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:48.56 | [dmp] | didnt i send you some text about it? and article explaining why not to use templates? |
| 10:51.18 | strayer | hm..U mean 'http://www.massassi.com/php/articles/template_engines/' ? |
| 10:51.23 | [dmp] | yep |
| 10:51.31 | strayer | wow..U R fast :) |
| 10:51.49 | strayer | I thought using a template is easier for me :) |
| 10:51.55 | [dmp] | My dating-code is based off this idea. And it works rather nicly. |
| 10:53.28 | [dmp] | well, actually i see one reason to use template-implemented-in-php :) .. If the dont contain any logic (just tags replaced by values). it makes the template-file alot simpler and even not-so-skilled-user can change it. But when loops, if's and stuff is added, we got a normal syntax. Then i'd rather use php, as its faster and more powerfull. |
| 10:53.38 | strayer | aha...hm...I will look at it again....but first I will reorganize my website with a template-class > the more I know the better... |
| 10:53.58 | [dmp] | The current ctf-league is based of php-templates too :) |
| 10:54.28 | strayer | aha...interesting |
| 10:54.42 | [dmp] | the article got an example with some classes and how it can be used. Perhaps you should read it before you regorganize anything (so you dont waste time ) |
| 10:54.58 | strayer | btw....loops R the only semi-logical structures I use in the templates |
| 10:55.25 | strayer | I can waste my time...I am jobless :) |
| 10:55.32 | [dmp] | Yep, but nevertheless. I think most people dont understand the concept of loops, unless they already know of programming. |
| 10:56.05 | [dmp] | I seriously doubt that my gf would understand it, if she saw some loop code (she might ofcause understand the idea) |
| 10:56.49 | strayer | jo |
| 10:57.14 | [dmp] | But I might have a stupid girlfriend :) |
| 10:58.31 | strayer | R U so 'courageous' when Ur gf can see what U type ;) |
| 10:59.05 | strayer | urgs...what an English... |
| 11:00.01 | [dmp] | ever time we argue, we play bzflag to see who's right. Why do you think i pratice so much? :-) |
| 11:00.13 | [dmp] | I get my way, every time :-) |
| 11:00.34 | strayer | *lol*.... |
| 11:01.56 | strayer | wait until she wants to find it out with cleaning the rooms > the faster one will be right or so....then U will suck like hell :) |
| 11:01.58 | [dmp] | ~d |
| 11:02.41 | strayer | and if templates will make my HP to slow I can use a php-accelerator....good idea,ej? ;) |
| 11:02.50 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 11:03.03 | [dmp] | nah, i dont think it will make it slow enough for you to notice. |
| 11:03.22 | strayer | right....not in the way I use it... :) |
| 11:03.28 | [dmp] | php-accelerator is nice |
| 11:04.36 | strayer | yes...I saw benchmark tests.....but when I tried it I notized nothing...I cannot 'exhaust' it with my little HP :) |
| 11:05.09 | strayer | hm....it's a little expensive....isn't is? |
| 11:05.41 | [dmp] | the got a small-business deal, but it would still cost me 25% of what i earn of this datingproject. |
| 11:05.59 | [dmp] | but its could be considered an investment.. and then it would protect my code.. and optimize it |
| 11:06.14 | [dmp] | Not sure if i wanna replace vim with the editor .. but its a package :) |
| 11:07.12 | strayer | hm...well...Ur decision...it's a nice way to protect the use of Ur code....but I dunno |
| 11:08.35 | [dmp] | They will need to have more extensions; so i want to secure my code (as its already agree, it is mine code, even if its coded for meet their requirements) .. having it un-encoded would mean they can find another one to work of my stuff. |
| 11:09.48 | [dmp] | And as I put alot of effort into creating the libraries, to make it easy to extend and add new stuff. The benefit of this work wwould disappear. Iøve been using like 10 days (almostnon-stop coding.) to make libraries. Nothing else. (Expect stuff to test it) |
| 11:09.56 | strayer | right...but there exist 2 or three free encoders I think...if I remember right |
| 11:10.10 | [dmp] | Yeah I know. |
| 11:10.48 | [dmp] | havnt really decided yet. Need to know if zend encoders is supported directly by php, or you need to have a plugin of some sort. |
| 11:11.07 | [dmp] | if you need that, the benefit of buying theirs wouldnt be as great. |
| 11:11.30 | strayer | I think it works directly by php |
| 11:11.31 | [dmp] | the optimizer is nice through. But php-accel could be used as well, if it comes to that. |
| 11:11.36 | [dmp] | I hope so. |
| 11:12.13 | [dmp] | But I cannot find anything on their page.. (But then again, i didnt decide, so i havnt really put alot of energy into finding the info .)) |
| 11:13.14 | strayer | hm...at first U have to write the code before U could encode/encrypt it...so U have time to find sth. :) |
| 11:13.37 | [dmp] | That was my thinking, yes :) |
| 11:14.01 | [dmp] | Code dosnt require optimizer/encode.. optimizer/encode requires code :-) |
| 11:14.30 | strayer | amen :) |
| 11:14.56 | [dmp] | Money dosnt need [dmp]. [dmp] needs money.. So i better get started :) |
| 11:15.06 | [dmp] | .. and have a shower :) |
| 11:15.18 | strayer | btw...do U mean the Zend safeguard suite |
| 11:16.00 | [dmp] | no, zend small buisness package |
| 11:16.19 | strayer | hm...I will have a look....CU later |
| 11:17.01 | [dmp] | http://www.zend.com/store/products/zend-smallbiz.php |
| 11:17.44 | strayer | I already found this site ...but thx :) |
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| 11:18.58 | [dmp] | hi david. |
| 11:19.02 | david_v | allo |
| 11:19.10 | david_v | any interesting lilo effects today? |
| 11:19.29 | strayer | hi david_v |
| 11:19.35 | david_v | hey strayer |
| 11:19.51 | [dmp] | no, but then again, as long as nothing goes bad. I guess we're allright :) |
| 11:20.10 | david_v | heh |
| 11:20.26 | david_v | i saw lilo in #gentoo the other day. funny |
| 11:20.47 | david_v | i wasn't rude enough to yell on him though ;) |
| 11:21.05 | [dmp] | Nah, I think he got some powers of this netwok :) |
| 11:21.12 | [dmp] | *over |
| 11:21.18 | david_v | some :) |
| 11:22.20 | [dmp] | $world->denmark->aalborg->myappartment->dmp->showering(true); // cu in a few mins :-) |
| 11:22.52 | david_v | hmmmm :) |
| 11:23.14 | david_v | good to have the big picture, but couldn't you simplify it slightly? ;) |
| 11:35.07 | [dmp] | Nah, my code is flexible :-) |
| 11:35.25 | david_v | hm :) |
| 11:36.31 | strayer | [dmp]: U were really fast...faster then I expected :) > I wrote U an ICQ-msg |
| 11:37.36 | [dmp] | and i replied :) |
| 11:38.02 | strayer | :)) |
| 11:40.57 | [dmp] | Yikes. ioncube's encoder is pretty expensive |
| 11:41.21 | [dmp] | $199 for the cheapest. |
| 11:41.37 | strayer | oha... |
| 11:42.05 | strayer | ioncube is related (in a way) to the php-accelerator....or? |
| 11:42.26 | [dmp] | Yep |
| 11:42.40 | [dmp] | ioncube made the php-accelerator |
| 11:43.31 | strayer | oh...yes...now I see it....huge letters on the top of their site :) |
| 11:43.37 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 11:45.55 | strayer | [dmp]: http://www.rssoftlab.com/phpenc.php4 |
| 11:46.59 | david_v | page not found |
| 11:47.43 | strayer | oh |
| 11:48.04 | strayer | then try this one... http://www.bigwebmaster.com/PHP/Scripts_and_Programs/Security_Systems/ |
| 11:50.04 | [dmp] | codelock: "Requires no additional software to run on the server" .. so the decoder is written in php? |
| 11:50.33 | strayer | don't ask me... :) |
| 11:50.46 | [dmp] | :) |
| 11:51.46 | [dmp] | "Extremely light weight - Decryptor file: 8k (No other files necessary when distributing/running your scripts)", "Runs super fast... You won't even notice the difference in speed" .. I think im gonna stop reading :-) |
| 11:52.25 | david_v | hmm |
| 11:52.34 | david_v | (standard comment :) |
| 11:52.45 | strayer | yeah...sounds bad |
| 11:52.50 | [dmp] | "extremely light weight" made my spamd scream. |
| 11:52.59 | david_v | yes i understand that lol |
| 11:53.41 | [dmp] | If its so fast, why not some benchmarks? :-) |
| 11:54.00 | david_v | with or without spamd? :) |
| 11:54.07 | strayer | they want to be fair to the others...like zend and so on ;) |
| 11:54.34 | david_v | hey Chikorita just joined on bzbb |
| 11:54.56 | strayer | http://www.rssoftlab.com/phpenc.php > this sounds like a php-encoder and decoder ... :/ |
| 11:55.59 | david_v | oh, Chiko joined yesterday actually. but still :) |
| 11:58.43 | [dmp] | she rejoin bzbb ? :-) |
| 11:58.57 | david_v | oh could be, hehe |
| 11:59.20 | david_v | i haven't been in those forums for long, and didn't dig through posts yet |
| 12:00.13 | [dmp] | I had discussion with her about "rebel league" .. (she posts a few times about this) .. but then she (Rebel Chik) vanished. And "guest" wrote these posts. :-) |
| 12:00.18 | david_v | php? oh that product that we stopped developing a few years ago |
| 12:00.58 | david_v | hm hm |
| 12:01.15 | [dmp] | Odd. I just heard that php5 is about to get stable enough to play with :) |
| 12:01.48 | david_v | heh |
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| 12:07.44 | [dmp] | Ah, I know! I Know! Im there to help the dudes who cant read the manual! :) |
| 12:13.43 | [dmp] | "Man, Im stupid" - quote: david_Vv |
| 12:13.48 | [dmp] | -v |
| 12:13.52 | [dmp] | :) |
| 12:14.43 | david_v | must have been someone else :) |
| 12:22.51 | [dmp] | It gotta hurt :-) |
| 12:26.30 | david_v | weird. i think i heard YOU say the above words sometime ;) |
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| 12:28.56 | tea|tree_ | mornin |
| 12:31.10 | bomber | i tea |
| 12:31.21 | bomber | hmm hi |
| 12:31.42 | david_v | hey |
| 12:31.47 | [dmp] | SILENCE david_v |
| 12:31.52 | [dmp] | hmm :) |
| 12:31.59 | [dmp] | better write a perl-script for xchat now :) |
| 12:32.38 | bomber | muhaha |
| 12:34.03 | david_v | do you want me to start a script war? :) |
| 12:36.07 | [dmp] | Dont bother david. You will lose, and i dont want you to cry again :-) |
| 12:36.47 | bomber | SCRIPT WARS III |
| 12:37.05 | bomber | fear fear |
| 12:37.07 | david_v | that's what you *think* ;) |
| 12:37.33 | [dmp] | No, that is what i see in my magical glassball of the future. |
| 12:37.37 | [dmp] | You look silly. |
| 12:37.44 | [dmp] | And you outta change that tshirt :) |
| 12:37.56 | [dmp] | "basic" isnt not anymore :) |
| 12:37.57 | david_v | just let me make a Perl script alright ;) |
| 12:37.59 | [dmp] | *hot |
| 12:38.55 | [dmp] | david, if this is gonna be fuyn, you should join #scriptkiddie :-) |
| 12:39.20 | david_v | no thanks :) |
| 12:40.02 | [dmp] | Hehe, you just had to see if that channel existed :) |
| 12:40.30 | david_v | no i knew you would be in it, silly :) |
| 12:41.00 | [dmp] | whois is cheating :) |
| 12:41.06 | david_v | no part? ;) |
| 12:41.14 | david_v | no whois, just telepathy :) |
| 12:41.21 | [dmp] | liar! |
| 12:41.30 | [dmp] | david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se) has left #scriptwars ("Klienten avslutas") |
| 12:41.31 | david_v | hmpf :) |
| 12:41.33 | [dmp] | you didnt quit :) |
| 12:41.34 | david_v | let me put it like this |
| 12:41.54 | [dmp] | "Man, I'm stupid" ? :) |
| 12:42.03 | [dmp] | That quote is golden :) |
| 12:42.06 | david_v | you mentioned the channel, and expected me to join, therefore you joined, because you knew i would figure that you would figure that i would figure that you'd join, because i'd figure that... |
| 12:42.07 | [dmp] | I feel soo rich :) |
| 12:42.20 | david_v | so, to sum it up, you were expected to be in the channel :) |
| 12:42.37 | [dmp] | You got alot of figures? :) GI Joe? Transformers? :) |
| 12:42.56 | david_v | oh you've got memory? i thought you had problems with that ;) |
| 12:42.58 | [dmp] | I think i had two transfers :) |
| 12:43.55 | [dmp] | ... so much silly talk :) |
| 12:45.31 | [dmp] | You know the dns-problem i had.. It came back later that night. |
| 12:45.56 | david_v | mind you, i just found an autokick script :) |
| 12:45.57 | [dmp] | If a DNS server is faulty it shouldnt reply. :-| |
| 12:46.03 | [dmp] | uh uh |
| 12:46.04 | [dmp] | :) |
| 12:50.15 | david_v | hm, need to install ActivePerl :) |
| 12:52.03 | david_v | there's ActivePython too, didn't know that |
| 12:52.10 | [dmp] | :) |
| 12:56.09 | david_v | restarting xchat (might have to reboot in the worst case) |
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| 12:56.48 | david_v | aha now it works |
| 12:56.55 | david_v | wonder if the script does, though :) |
| 12:56.58 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 12:57.06 | [dmp] | script-kiddie :) |
| 12:57.16 | david_v | whee it does |
| 12:57.28 | david_v | must stop it before it floods me to death :) |
| 12:57.53 | david_v | whooha :) |
| 12:58.13 | david_v | seems like it went into a stupid loop too lol |
| 12:58.26 | [dmp] | Im soo scared now :) |
| 13:00.51 | david_v | say that again? :) |
| 13:09.03 | david_v | type something now... if you dare ;) |
| 13:11.05 | [dmp] | No |
| 13:11.10 | [dmp] | :) |
| 13:11.31 | david_v | must you do that *exactly* when i reload my script? :) |
| 13:11.51 | david_v | you... grrr ;) |
| 13:12.20 | tea|tree_ | hey guys |
| 13:13.39 | david_v | [dmp], so you don't dare :) |
| 13:15.36 | [dmp] | :) |
| 13:15.53 | [dmp] | haha |
| 13:16.03 | david_v | ;) |
| 13:16.07 | [dmp] | :) |
| 13:16.11 | [dmp] | hi tea|tree_ :) |
| 13:16.13 | david_v | oops some bugs |
| 13:16.23 | david_v | grr :) |
| 13:16.28 | [dmp] | yeah, like that php-comment was a few hours late :-) |
| 13:16.44 | david_v | not really, it was programmed to come as soon as you typed something :) |
| 13:18.02 | david_v | but anyway :) |
| 13:18.14 | david_v | cya around later ;) |
| 13:18.47 | [dmp] | cya :) |
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| 13:55.43 | TimRiker | is bzdb a global static now? perhap we should just add members for all the former globals? This centralizes them and cuts out the lookups. |
| 14:01.28 | tea|tree_ | ... |
| 14:01.32 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 14:01.36 | tea|tree_ | im not sure |
| 14:06.21 | TimRiker | http://www.iana.org/assignments/port-numbers <- now shows 5154 tcp/udp for bzflag ;-) |
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| 14:37.09 | learner | Tim: very cool |
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| 14:57.18 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
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| 14:59.51 | learner | mornin' quol |
| 15:00.34 | tea|tree_ | hey Quol good aftern00n ;) |
| 15:02.08 | tea|tree_ | which email program is good |
| 15:02.14 | tea|tree_ | just to read etz |
| 15:02.51 | [dmp] | on linux? |
| 15:05.33 | learner | pine |
| 15:09.10 | [dmp] | ~d |
| 15:09.54 | [dmp] | I use sylpheed and it works so far. |
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| 15:19.54 | bryjen | Administr-ador? Adminis-tador? Admin-is-tador? |
| 15:22.49 | Quol_AtWork | sorry all - got distracted at work there - mornin/afternoon :) |
| 15:25.07 | learner | Mmm.. a toy :) |
| 15:31.02 | Quol_AtWork | learner: are you still at home - did you ever end up taking your shower yesterday :) |
| 15:31.23 | learner | heh, I'm at home now and yes I took my shower :P |
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| 15:32.40 | learner | Tim: how are the connections looking? |
| 15:33.46 | bryjen | hmmm |
| 15:33.53 | bryjen | ~steakslap Quol_AtWork |
| 15:34.56 | Quol_AtWork | steakslap ehh |
| 15:35.05 | bryjen | ~fishslap Quol_AtWork |
| 15:35.07 | | ACTION slaps Quol_AtWork up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 15:35.15 | Quol_AtWork | wars havebeen fought over less I think bryjen :) |
| 15:35.18 | bryjen | Where's the beef? |
| 15:35.47 | bryjen | You asked for it. ;) |
| 15:35.57 | Quol_AtWork | even ibot is getting into it - everyone is slapping me - ohh the pain |
| 15:36.07 | bryjen | You wants it, you gets it ;) |
| 15:36.11 | Quol_AtWork | lol |
| 15:36.40 | Quol_AtWork | at least the fish was wet - just the way golumn like it :) |
| 15:37.32 | Quol_AtWork | if only I could get paid for doing nothing - there must be a way :) |
| 15:42.13 | TimRiker | work for the government? |
| 15:43.47 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 15:43.59 | tea|tree_ | uuh. |
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| 15:46.58 | learner | w00t |
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| 15:49.13 | Quol_AtWork | again with these splits |
| 15:49.37 | captain_proton | always with the splitting! |
| 15:49.54 | Quol_AtWork | seems bad the last couple of days though - worse then usual |
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| 15:50.07 | captain_proton | Quol_AtWork: yeah, thats because they didn't test the new code :P |
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| 15:51.38 | Quol_AtWork | CRAP, I have to do some work |
| 15:51.50 | Quol_AtWork | phh well - it was bound to happen :) |
| 15:52.20 | Quol_AtWork | see you guys later :) TimRiker: Maybe I will try a government job and see how ling I can do nothing for :) |
| 15:52.54 | learner | oh, it's pretty indefinate quol |
| 15:53.28 | learner | I know guys that have done nothing for years -- made a career out of doing nothing, even |
| 15:53.29 | Quol_AtWork | sounds good - maybe something with the army...playing with satelite links or something |
| 15:54.11 | Quol_AtWork | anyways - for now I have to mess with regular links, there is a STP multicast storm, I have to mess with my roots - see ya later |
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| 16:13.30 | learner | it's a patlabor! |
| 16:13.57 | snyke | I need somebody from the bzflag core-devel team please |
| 16:14.15 | captain_proton | bzflag has a core-devel team? |
| 16:14.18 | patlabor221 | hello |
| 16:14.26 | patlabor221 | where? |
| 16:15.31 | captain_proton | didn't you know? this channel has been black-tie for a while |
| 16:15.56 | patlabor221 | I was only gone for one night |
| 16:17.24 | captain_proton | you say that now... |
| 16:17.36 | patlabor221 | umm yes... yes I do. |
| 16:17.43 | patlabor221 | I was only gone for one night |
| 16:17.52 | patlabor221 | unless today isn't monday the 11th |
| 16:19.15 | learner | where's your tie? |
| 16:19.27 | captain_proton | today isn't monday the 11th |
| 16:19.42 | captain_proton | http://jupiter.flatirons.org/yulunga.mp3 |
| 16:19.56 | snyke | pat |
| 16:20.01 | snyke | can I query you? |
| 16:20.04 | snyke | is a bit private.. |
| 16:20.05 | snyke | :) |
| 16:20.06 | patlabor221 | umm sure |
| 16:20.13 | learner | synke: you're talking to a room of many developers |
| 16:20.29 | patlabor221 | most of us here are. |
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| 16:21.17 | learner | cap: what is that? |
| 16:21.31 | captain_proton | learner: muzak! |
| 16:21.36 | [dmp] | Hi bzgirl |
| 16:21.48 | learner | sounds like hammarwhatshisname from gladiator |
| 16:21.49 | bzgirl | hello |
| 16:22.30 | captain_proton | thats because its the same woman singing |
| 16:22.35 | captain_proton | but this is about 10 years before the movie |
| 16:23.00 | learner | ah cool |
| 16:23.41 | captain_proton | this one happens to be on a couple dead can dance albums |
| 16:23.48 | learner | lisa gerrard? |
| 16:24.25 | learner | or different lady? |
| 16:24.34 | captain_proton | liiiiisa |
| 16:24.42 | captain_proton | bzgirl: um...that peter pan guy you found is ugly |
| 16:24.54 | bzgirl | i know |
| 16:25.06 | captain_proton | 'twill scare the kids |
| 16:25.14 | bzgirl | do you think its a joke? |
| 16:25.26 | bzgirl | i cant belive he's for real! |
| 16:25.27 | captain_proton | i'm not sure... |
| 16:29.57 | patlabor221 | ohh that was sarry |
| 16:30.23 | captain_proton | patlabor221: hm? |
| 16:30.31 | patlabor221 | the peter pan thing |
| 16:30.49 | captain_proton | ah, yep |
| 16:31.00 | captain_proton | poor learner |
| 16:31.04 | bzgirl | :) |
| 16:31.36 | patlabor221 | did you get your raise? |
| 16:31.55 | captain_proton | no, was going to talk about that at one of the meetings today |
| 16:31.57 | captain_proton | =/ |
| 16:35.30 | bryjen | "Hrm. We're sorry, all funds for increases seem to have been reallocated to cover some 'travel expenses' " :( |
| 16:37.16 | TimRiker | snyke: what's up? |
| 16:37.23 | captain_proton | hmm. http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/Imagezz/blueboyBalletPose3.jpg |
| 16:37.41 | captain_proton | thats kind of creepy |
| 16:38.08 | bzgirl | cap back away |
| 16:38.34 | TimRiker | http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/ <- even scarier |
| 16:38.53 | snyke | AH |
| 16:38.56 | snyke | hi Tim!!! |
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| 16:41.13 | captain_proton | http://www.pixyland.org/peterpan/petersFashionPage.html |
| 16:45.24 | TimRiker | snyke: sup? |
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| 16:46.02 | Chikorita | ok dat was like gross |
| 16:46.24 | Chikorita | :P |
| 16:46.32 | Chikorita | peeple r weirdddd |
| 16:46.36 | Chikorita | LoL |
| 16:48.24 | Chikorita | maybee 4 halloween buh otha than dat i dunno.... |
| 16:48.34 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 16:53.15 | captain_proton | time to head into work and transform into an evil sysadmin |
| 16:53.37 | TimRiker | BOFH? |
| 16:53.48 | captain_proton | indeed |
| 16:54.29 | Chikorita | heh |
| 16:55.57 | Chikorita | bbl |
| 16:57.25 | TimRiker | ~1200 / 20 |
| 16:57.26 | | 60 |
| 16:57.42 | TimRiker | ~2000 / 1600 |
| 16:57.42 | | 1.25 |
| 16:57.46 | TimRiker | ~2000 / 1200 |
| 16:57.47 | | 1.666666666667 |
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| 17:15.26 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 17:20.54 | BagsAtWork | hi ibot |
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| 17:40.06 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 17:45.52 | BagsAtWork | ~d |
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| 18:24.38 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
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| 18:44.27 | david_v | heh |
| 18:49.25 | david_v | what kind of course is it? |
| 18:49.48 | learnerAtWork | siggraph course notes and papers |
| 18:51.59 | david_v | ah |
| 18:55.37 | patlabor221 | captain_proton &| scanline |
| 18:55.38 | patlabor221 | http://www.flipcode.com/cgi-bin/msg.cgi?showThread=07-23-2003&forum=iotd&id=-1 |
| 18:56.43 | patlabor221 | it's real time cloud stuff |
| 18:57.44 | scanline | that's cute |
| 19:00.13 | scanline | hmm... so this one's more like a pseudo-voxel renderer using vertex and fragment programs, rather than a sprite hack like the flight sim thingy |
| 19:01.42 | scanline | haha.. |
| 19:01.48 | scanline | metaballs modulated with perlin noise |
| 19:02.29 | scanline | quite cute |
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| 19:34.01 | bryjen | meatballs? Mmmm |
| 19:38.05 | scanline | mmmmyep |
| 19:51.15 | Chestal | ginseng tea? not korean instant ginseng tea? |
| 19:51.17 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Started a module that makes it easy to tweak values in real-time |
| 19:51.26 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 19:51.32 | learnerAtWork | that's the one |
| 19:52.04 | learnerAtWork | you drink it? |
| 19:52.29 | Chestal | learner: that's one of the most nausea inducing things I ever drank, but I like it :-) |
| 19:52.39 | Chestal | I don't have it anymore |
| 19:52.54 | learnerAtWork | hehe, yes it is -- but I like it too :) |
| 19:53.18 | Chestal | the sister of a firend of mine had a couple of them, then we all tried it, about half of the people only nipped at it then poured it away |
| 19:54.07 | Chestal | but 3 of us drank it all; we then occasionally met and drank a cup of ginseng tea together, but soon there was no more |
| 19:54.53 | Chestal | "korean red ginseng" IIRC |
| 19:55.24 | learnerAtWork | ah -- mine's in a red box, but not called red |
| 19:55.49 | tea|tree_ | ~ducatictf |
| 19:55.53 | tea|tree_ | hey cheds |
| 19:55.55 | tea|tree_ | ches |
| 19:56.03 | learnerAtWork | ~d |
| 19:56.06 | tea|tree_ | 9-1 vs Fortrix |
| 19:56.13 | tea|tree_ | kannst du eintragen? |
| 19:56.26 | learnerAtWork | ~literal ducatictf |
| 19:56.26 | | ducatictf is <reply> see bzfquery ducati.bzflag.org:59999 |
| 19:56.32 | learnerAtWork | ah |
| 19:56.34 | tea|tree_ | i know |
| 19:57.03 | [dmp] | Somebody is blocking it, i think. |
| 19:57.23 | tea|tree_ | jup |
| 19:57.40 | patlabor221 | scanline, was that page on clouds interesting at all? |
| 19:57.43 | tea|tree_ | ~ducatictf |
| 19:57.57 | [dmp] | tea|tree_: have any idea who it might be? |
| 19:58.02 | bryjen | ms or pc dos ? |
| 19:58.03 | tea|tree_ | Frotrix |
| 19:58.07 | tea|tree_ | fortrix |
| 19:58.10 | tea|tree_ | but superkill |
| 19:58.18 | tea|tree_ | fanta is handling somehting |
| 19:58.36 | [dmp] | guess they're chatting :) |
| 19:58.53 | tea|tree_ | ;) |
| 19:58.58 | scanline | patlabor221: yeah. kind of a weird algorithm, but interesting |
| 19:59.23 | patlabor221 | the movies look kinda cool :) |
| 19:59.29 | patlabor221 | I didn't read what they were doing |
| 19:59.45 | patlabor221 | you should submit your screen shots as an IMOTD at flipcode :) |
| 19:59.52 | scanline | IMOTD? |
| 20:00.04 | patlabor221 | Image of the day |
| 20:00.11 | scanline | hehe |
| 20:00.12 | patlabor221 | http://www.flipcode.com/. |
| 20:00.14 | scanline | which screenshots? |
| 20:01.00 | patlabor221 | your sky ones |
| 20:01.03 | scanline | pybzflag doesn't even have a web site to link to yet |
| 20:01.12 | patlabor221 | you could just link to the screens page |
| 20:01.20 | scanline | * scanline thinks he should move pybzflag's images to somewhere more bandwidthful first though |
| 20:01.21 | scanline | :) |
| 20:01.39 | patlabor221 | I have a host that you can use if you want |
| 20:01.48 | scanline | they should go on bzflag.org |
| 20:02.00 | scanline | I started to set up a better image gallery there, but got distracted |
| 20:02.04 | tea|tree_ | ~ducatictf |
| 20:02.11 | Chestal | hi tea |
| 20:02.14 | tea|tree_ | huhu ches |
| 20:02.15 | Chestal | I started up 59998 |
| 20:02.18 | tea|tree_ | aaah great |
| 20:02.19 | tea|tree_ | thx |
| 20:02.22 | Chestal | they're still very chatty on 59999 :-) |
| 20:03.41 | tea|tree_ | Chestal : kannst du es lesen gell |
| 20:03.43 | tea|tree_ | lol |
| 20:03.46 | tea|tree_ | du .. : |
| 20:03.51 | tea|tree_ | was sagen die denn |
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| 20:04.58 | Chestal | hi leg |
| 20:05.05 | learnerAtWork | hi legs |
| 20:05.16 | Chestal | no longer an AVenger? |
| 20:05.39 | Legolas | nope |
| 20:05.46 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/BZFlag/UI (2 files): Put a cap on the accumulated spawnBudget so we don't get a backlog of particles to spawn if spawnBudget was temporarily set too high |
| 20:06.21 | Chestal | Legolas: ah, too bad for that team. But Fortix is a good team, too. They're only losing most of the time because they play the top teams |
| 20:06.33 | learnerAtWork | Ches: did you fix the busted build yesterday? |
| 20:06.47 | david_v | Chestal, heh thanks for the words. but we have no real choice as i see it |
| 20:06.55 | david_v | don't want to meet (cough) TXE and the like |
| 20:07.01 | david_v | and many are inactive |
| 20:07.07 | patlabor221 | that reminds me, I need to rebuild a windows build |
| 20:07.28 | Legolas | brb |
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| 20:08.18 | Chestal | david_v: yes, same old problem in the league |
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| 20:09.21 | patlabor221 | did a file get added? |
| 20:09.37 | patlabor221 | geometry.lib(WallSceneNode.obj) : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol "public: float __thiscall StateDatabase::eval(class std::basic_string<char,struct std::char_traits<char>,class std::allocator<char> > const &)const " (?eval@StateDatabase@@Q |
| 20:09.38 | patlabor221 | BEMABV?$basic_string@DU?$char_traits@D@std@@V?$allocator@D@2@@std@@@Z) |
| 20:09.38 | patlabor221 | ..\src\bzflag\bzflag.exe : fatal error LNK1120: 1 unresolved externals |
| 20:11.08 | Legolas | bye |
| 20:11.34 | learnerAtWork | pat, did you rebuild libglkit? |
| 20:11.44 | learnerAtWork | a file moved from libcommon to libglkit |
| 20:11.53 | learnerAtWork | er, from bzflag to libglkit |
| 20:11.53 | patlabor221 | glkit? |
| 20:12.03 | patlabor221 | what he hell is that? |
| 20:12.06 | learnerAtWork | src/ogl |
| 20:12.10 | patlabor221 | ohh ogl |
| 20:12.33 | patlabor221 | well see noone updated the VC projects so it's still in common |
| 20:12.39 | patlabor221 | what files moved? |
| 20:12.58 | learnerAtWork | the only file in src/ogl that isn't prefixed with ogl |
| 20:13.08 | learnerAtWork | (don't remember) |
| 20:13.14 | learnerAtWork | RenderNode.cxx maybe |
| 20:14.10 | Chestal | 1.9 no longe rgives me a blank screen |
| 20:14.14 | Chestal | not it dumps core when I start it |
| 20:14.16 | Chestal | eh, now |
| 20:15.29 | learnerAtWork | well.. that's progress |
| 20:15.33 | bryjen | complain about no output, and look what you get |
| 20:15.37 | bryjen | ;) |
| 20:15.39 | learnerAtWork | not sure which direction, but it's progress somewhere |
| 20:15.52 | patlabor221 | there we go all better :) |
| 20:16.09 | learnerAtWork | keep complaining and your hardware just might get damaged |
| 20:16.39 | learnerAtWork | Ches: any symbols or bt? |
| 20:17.47 | david_v | [dmp], ping, you there? |
| 20:17.53 | Chestal | learner: didn't care to find out yet, just did cvs up and make this afternoon |
| 20:18.26 | [dmp] | david_v: maybe :) |
| 20:18.41 | david_v | hehe |
| 20:18.44 | david_v | a question for you |
| 20:18.56 | JBDiGriz | TimRiker: Who has authority to fix/restore the wiki pages on bzflag.org? |
| 20:18.57 | david_v | benson can't open his team, but, aren't teams with just two players open by default? |
| 20:19.17 | patlabor221 | updated win32 build at : http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/19/ |
| 20:19.29 | patlabor221 | for those that care |
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| 20:20.05 | david_v | [dmp], what i'm after is, one shouldn't be able to close them? this sounds like a bug to me |
| 20:20.06 | [dmp] | david_v: i think chestal talked about it beeing broke :) |
| 20:20.10 | david_v | heh |
| 20:20.21 | Chestal | yes, TAF had a similiar problem |
| 20:20.27 | Chestal | it emegred after their team shrunk |
| 20:20.35 | [dmp] | david_v: but you're right. A team cant be close with 1 or 2 members. |
| 20:20.45 | david_v | but Conspirators have never been three in the league system? |
| 20:20.51 | david_v | [dmp], exactly. but it is |
| 20:20.53 | [dmp] | david_v: properly some global variable i forgot to include :-| |
| 20:21.10 | david_v | and now they can't open it. because it "is" open. that is, closed |
| 20:21.18 | david_v | hm |
| 20:22.04 | Chestal | for TAF I fixed it by manipulatign the database directly |
| 20:22.34 | david_v | there's a thread here about it: http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/viewtopic.php?t=959 |
| 20:22.46 | david_v | don't read my silly attempt of explaining the obvious in my post :) |
| 20:23.20 | bzgirl | can a team have the same player registered twice? |
| 20:23.27 | bzgirl | on the league site |
| 20:23.41 | david_v | well there's no way to join twice unless you try to hack, i think? |
| 20:23.52 | bzgirl | no, you make a new account |
| 20:23.59 | david_v | oh |
| 20:24.02 | bzgirl | and join the same team |
| 20:24.24 | david_v | never tried it :) |
| 20:24.35 | patlabor221 | what does the leauge use to insure each account is unique? e-mail? |
| 20:24.38 | [dmp] | bzgirl: with the same name? |
| 20:25.10 | [dmp] | patlabor221: email isnt registered, i think it the callsign (which can be changed for some reason whenever people like to) |
| 20:25.19 | bzgirl | dmp no |
| 20:25.22 | bzgirl | different name |
| 20:25.31 | Chestal | patlabor: sadly, we cannot do email confirmation from sf |
| 20:25.37 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 20:25.44 | david_v | Chestal, why's that? |
| 20:25.59 | patlabor221 | you need to use my user DB, make them have an account on BZBB to be in the leauge :) |
| 20:25.59 | [dmp] | bzgirl: well yes. We have no way of identifying if a user got multiple accounts. |
| 20:26.06 | david_v | heh |
| 20:26.18 | [dmp] | david_v: no outgoing connections is allowed (think abuse/spamming) |
| 20:26.22 | bzgirl | [dmp]: is it a problem tho? |
| 20:26.34 | Chestal | david_v: they don't allow outgoing network connections |
| 20:26.36 | bzgirl | can he play in a match under his second name? |
| 20:26.37 | [dmp] | bzgirl: I dont think so :) |
| 20:26.40 | [dmp] | ah |
| 20:26.44 | david_v | Chestal and [dmp]: ok thanks... hmm |
| 20:26.58 | Chestal | patlabor: yes, there was this idea of sharing the user database |
| 20:27.19 | Chestal | patlabor: it's kinda silly to have our own forums for the league if we could simpl yuse bzbb's |
| 20:27.20 | patlabor221 | could you just use my mysql server? |
| 20:27.26 | patlabor221 | I concur |
| 20:27.35 | Chestal | learner: heh :-) |
| 20:27.52 | Chestal | learner: you'll feel like a real man after you drank it all |
| 20:28.02 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Try baking it into brownies instead. |
| 20:28.48 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 20:29.08 | patlabor221 | what would be needed for you to use my database? just time for someone to implement it? or would the leauge site have to move off of SF? |
| 20:29.22 | Chestal | patlabor: I guess we cannot access it from sf |
| 20:29.48 | learnerAtWork | is bzflag.org hosted on sf hardware? |
| 20:29.56 | patlabor221 | so the site would have to move, or BZBB would have to send all data to SF |
| 20:30.01 | Chestal | learner: yes |
| 20:30.05 | patlabor221 | its on the bzflag.org site |
| 20:30.09 | learnerAtWork | eww |
| 20:30.47 | BagsAtWork | wow, 1.9 actually works. |
| 20:31.20 | JBDiGriz | Unlike the people who advertise they're "AtWork"? |
| 20:31.34 | BagsAtWork | lunch break |
| 20:31.46 | JBDiGriz | ;-) |
| 20:31.47 | BagsAtWork | cigarette break |
| 20:31.55 | BagsAtWork | my finger slipped |
| 20:32.12 | BagsAtWork | i came in early |
| 20:32.15 | JBDiGriz | Sounds like you go through a lot of glue to fix things around there! :) |
| 20:36.55 | BagsAtWork | mostly Metal1, but occasionally we use Poly |
| 20:37.15 | BagsAtWork | even Poly when desperate |
| 20:37.29 | JBDiGriz | Which works best on the cigarette? |
| 20:37.30 | BagsAtWork | s/Poly2/Poly |
| 20:37.40 | BagsAtWork | grenades |
| 20:38.09 | JBDiGriz | ;-) |
| 20:46.48 | patlabor221 | I wonder if I could move the BZBB database to SF and access it from there, so we could both use it. Tho I don't know if that's the best plan |
| 20:47.31 | learnerAtWork | anyone want to split a virtual host or colocation service? |
| 20:48.00 | JBDiGriz | Talk to Quol, he might be able to get us a nice deal! |
| 20:48.37 | learnerAtWork | I'd be willing to contribute to something like that indefinately |
| 20:48.45 | learnerAtWork | yes.. Quol could :) |
| 20:49.59 | patlabor221 | where the bzedit site is hosted |
| 20:50.50 | learnerAtWork | 500mb bandwidth or disk? |
| 20:51.13 | patlabor221 | disk |
| 20:51.18 | patlabor221 | unmetered bandiwth |
| 20:51.58 | patlabor221 | never had a problem with them |
| 20:52.02 | patlabor221 | used em for 2 years now |
| 20:52.08 | learnerAtWork | then you almost never use it :) |
| 20:52.20 | patlabor221 | I don't, but my sub hosts do |
| 20:52.34 | patlabor221 | and they have not had any problems |
| 20:52.59 | patlabor221 | I don't use it, but I host a thing there that pulls in some decent trafic |
| 20:53.19 | patlabor221 | tho it isn't a linux server :( |
| 20:53.49 | learnerAtWork | what is it? |
| 20:54.05 | patlabor221 | windows, what else |
| 20:54.16 | patlabor221 | an Atari 800 :) |
| 20:54.18 | learnerAtWork | :) |
| 20:54.21 | JBDiGriz | How current are the security pathces. |
| 20:54.28 | patlabor221 | they are prety good |
| 20:54.50 | patlabor221 | the isp is www.readyhosting.com |
| 20:54.51 | JBDiGriz | pretty good isn't good enough on windows. |
| 20:54.57 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 20:55.02 | patlabor221 | I have never had a problem, let me say that |
| 20:55.17 | patlabor221 | and I don't recall it ever being down due to an ISP issue |
| 20:55.48 | JBDiGriz | I would rather not trust any "sensitive" information to a windows server. |
| 20:56.32 | JBDiGriz | Some people don't like giving out their email address to just anyone, especially Microsoft. |
| 20:57.23 | patlabor221 | well I'm just saying I got the space if anyone needs it |
| 20:57.35 | patlabor221 | bakadigital.com also has space |
| 20:57.39 | patlabor221 | tho it's only on a T1 |
| 20:58.19 | JBDiGriz | A T1 should be plenty for the number of queries to a user database, unless bz really starts getting popular! |
| 20:58.34 | patlabor221 | it's holding fine now for BZBB :) |
| 20:58.57 | JBDiGriz | And at that point, we should be able to have ESPN pay us for hosting the web site! ;-) |
| 20:58.59 | patlabor221 | the question is if you can access it from SF |
| 20:59.05 | tea|tree_ | ~d |
| 20:59.29 | patlabor221 | and bakadigital is not a windows server |
| 20:59.37 | patlabor221 | well asgard.bakadigital.com isn't |
| 20:59.49 | patlabor221 | darkmoor and ragnarok are |
| 20:59.56 | learnerAtWork | I was thinking of a server that would serve bzflag.org, user reg, bzbb, list server, and perhaps one or two game servers |
| 21:00.18 | patlabor221 | and CVS? |
| 21:00.21 | BagsAtWork | how about a hot water as well |
| 21:00.25 | JBDiGriz | There's no reason they all have to be on the same machine or even the same connection. |
| 21:00.48 | patlabor221 | I don't mind hosting the leauge site on the same machine as BZBB |
| 21:00.49 | learnerAtWork | pat: if we ever moved off of sf, perhaps -- though there are a slew of other dev niceities that sf provides |
| 21:01.06 | patlabor221 | since they would probably use the same database anyway |
| 21:01.48 | patlabor221 | when SF is up |
| 21:02.06 | patlabor221 | and what is wrong with keeping the main site on SF? |
| 21:02.12 | patlabor221 | it's not like it changes much |
| 21:02.55 | JBDiGriz | I don't see any problem with keeping the main site on sf. It seems to be good enough. |
| 21:03.18 | patlabor221 | if the leauge site can't do what it needs to do on SF< then I do see a reason to move that. |
| 21:04.03 | JBDiGriz | Is the league user database mysql? |
| 21:04.04 | patlabor221 | me and fiber also thought about incorproating stats.bzflag.org into the board database |
| 21:04.14 | patlabor221 | I think so |
| 21:05.53 | patlabor221 | that reminds me, I need to run the updaters on asgard to make sure it's all current. |
| 21:10.02 | learnerAtWork | *ugh* |
| 21:11.01 | learnerAtWork | tastes great less fil^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hmore nausiating |
| 21:11.19 | scanline | haha |
| 21:22.02 | bryjen | waaa. 1.9 segfaults for me too. guess that's what *I* get for being smug that it worked for me before while Chestal was getting black screens |
| 21:23.05 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Much better layout-fu for Tweak |
| 21:25.17 | TimRiker | who banned doug and is it time to remove the ban for a while? |
| 21:26.55 | JBDiGriz | TimRiker: I asked you about wiki restoral on bzflag.org a while ago. Did you see the message? |
| 21:27.48 | TimRiker | JBDiGriz: anyone with bzflag sf membership can fix/restore wiki pages. |
| 21:27.53 | TimRiker | why? |
| 21:28.10 | bryjen | eeep nice front page |
| 21:28.10 | JBDiGriz | Someone in Denver thought it was cute to hose the front page. |
| 21:29.04 | learnerAtWork | aww.. we're loved |
| 21:29.15 | scanline | wow.. it's a good thing that blink tag doesn't work |
| 21:29.35 | TimRiker | heh. restoring.... |
| 21:29.42 | JBDiGriz | It's nice to know that you guys are checking the wiki often! ;-P |
| 21:29.56 | learnerAtWork | =-) |
| 21:30.27 | bryjen | hrm. the tag line sounds like it was ripped off from here http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/32286.html |
| 21:30.52 | JBDiGriz | Which docs should I read to learn about the maintenance? |
| 21:31.28 | TimRiker | restored |
| 21:31.39 | TimRiker | cp ./moin/data/backup/FrontPage.1058804344 ./moin/data/text/FrontPage |
| 21:34.22 | JBDiGriz | That's interesting, I've never tried to get shell access on the sf site. |
| 21:35.20 | learnerAtWork | I was wondering the same thing, didn't think you .. could .. hrm |
| 21:36.35 | learnerAtWork | This is a restricted Shell Account |
| 21:36.36 | learnerAtWork | You cannot execute anything here. |
| 21:36.54 | patlabor221 | ohh it's not my computer :)( |
| 21:36.58 | patlabor221 | it's windows ME |
| 21:37.19 | learnerAtWork | or just run ssh blahblah cp ./... .... |
| 21:37.35 | JBDiGriz | lol, it's not mine, it's me! |
| 21:37.40 | TimRiker | learnerAtWork: you can ssh to <user>@bzflag.org and that is SF. |
| 21:37.54 | learnerAtWork | ah! |
| 21:37.59 | TimRiker | you cannot shell into the cvs server. |
| 21:38.14 | TimRiker | bzflag.org == shell1.sf.net or something like that. |
| 21:38.20 | learnerAtWork | this I did not know |
| 21:38.23 | learnerAtWork | thank you |
| 21:38.46 | learnerAtWork | brlcad@sc8-pr-shell1:~$ rm -rf ~ |
| 21:38.50 | learnerAtWork | okay my job is done |
| 21:39.44 | scanline | TimRiker: the shell server and web server aren't the same, are they? I'm pretty sure they're distinct boxes that just share several NFS mounts |
| 21:39.57 | JBDiGriz | That's cool, it even gives you a .emacs to start with! |
| 21:40.09 | learnerAtWork | hehe, of course not Tim :) |
| 21:40.19 | TimRiker | scanline: correct. shell, cvs live, cvs backup, web are all different farms. |
| 21:40.27 | learnerAtWork | wow, lot of users |
| 21:40.58 | learnerAtWork | bah! talk daemon isn't running |
| 21:42.51 | learnerAtWork | I notice |
| 21:42.59 | learnerAtWork | yet you have no .ssh dir |
| 21:43.18 | TimRiker | learnerAtWork: ssh localhost will fix that. |
| 21:43.31 | bryjen | learnerAtWork: the rm ~ probly didnt help ;) |
| 21:44.21 | learnerAtWork | ssh localhost didn't change anything |
| 21:44.41 | JBDiGriz | TimRiker: Much better on the profiling, I just looked at a bit in edit mode previously! |
| 21:45.42 | JBDiGriz | learnerAtWork: Why do I need an ssh dir there? It's not a machine under my control! ;-) |
| 21:45.55 | JBDiGriz | You're not the first! |
| 21:46.21 | JBDiGriz | and if you're really interested, I'll probably replace them with my copies in the future. |
| 21:47.04 | TimRiker | JBDiGriz: nod |
| 21:48.32 | JBDiGriz | I doubt anyone would have noticed! ;-P |
| 21:49.10 | learnerAtWork | if I was naked or that I didn't have a .emacs |
| 21:49.26 | JBDiGriz | Yes! |
| 21:49.54 | learnerAtWork | heh |
| 21:50.30 | JBDiGriz | In the strictest C parsing of that question. :-) |
| 21:53.37 | learnerAtWork | oooh.... I have a .ssh that contains the keys I uploaded via the web interface |
| 22:03.41 | learnerAtWork | where is the project stuff on shell1.sf? |
| 22:04.45 | JBDiGriz | I'm not sure how to avoid ibot, but it's in ~bzflag |
| 22:05.05 | JBDiGriz | That worked! |
| 22:05.12 | learnerAtWork | just found it /home/groups/...... |
| 22:05.44 | learnerAtWork | wow, lots of "groups".. |
| 22:05.53 | learnerAtWork | bzs bzsoft bzwav .... |
| 22:06.41 | JBDiGriz | The link in ~bzflag points to the directory in /home/groups |
| 22:11.29 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): New Tweak.Attributes that automagically handles vector and scalar object attributes |
| 22:22.36 | [dmp] | Do bzfs maintain a connection to bzfls? |
| 22:23.10 | [dmp] | So if the connection is broken, the listserver thinks the server is unavailable.. |
| 22:27.56 | [dmp] | nevermind :) |
| 22:28.10 | david_v | time to turn my script on? ;) |
| 22:28.26 | [dmp] | SILENCE david_v-on-connect written and enabled :) |
| 22:29.01 | david_v | script back into action. there were some more messages that you missed :) |
| 22:29.37 | david_v | need to add a delay though |
| 22:30.17 | david_v | there we go ;) |
| 22:30.34 | david_v | it's rather tricky if my response comes BEFORE yours. :D |
| 22:31.06 | *** join/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net) |
| 22:31.27 | david_v | hallo |
| 22:31.56 | creeperz | Hello |
| 22:32.00 | creeperz | Woah! |
| 22:32.00 | david_v | [dmp] stops reading the PHP manuals aloud for people, to join in on the discussion. |
| 22:32.03 | david_v | Now [dmp] is claiming the previous statement is false. |
| 22:32.08 | creeperz | I can speak! |
| 22:32.12 | david_v | He's getting desperate. |
| 22:32.16 | david_v | oops |
| 22:32.27 | creeperz | Who unsilenced me? |
| 22:32.30 | david_v | Well, even scripts have feelings. I'm bored and want to go home. I'll stop talking to you now. |
| 22:32.34 | david_v | my script is doing weird things :) |
| 22:34.21 | david_v | oh well |
| 22:36.22 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (~timr@proxyle01.ext.ti.com) |
| 22:36.40 | prot-work | GODDAMN WORM! |
| 22:36.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 22:36.48 | david_v | what now, cap? |
| 22:36.56 | david_v | slow sites? |
| 22:37.19 | prot-work | no |
| 22:37.26 | prot-work | running around telling people to fix their compromised hosts |
| 22:37.36 | david_v | nobody has, i guess? |
| 22:37.40 | prot-work | a few have |
| 22:37.45 | david_v | as usual |
| 22:38.02 | david_v | the fix was out August 18 |
| 22:38.11 | david_v | or earlier, the announcement was Aug. 16 |
| 22:38.16 | david_v | uh |
| 22:38.17 | david_v | July lol |
| 22:39.45 | david_v | i guess automated updates is the only thing that would work |
| 22:40.04 | prot-work | thats what we recommend to users |
| 22:40.10 | prot-work | but very few of them actually do it |
| 22:40.38 | david_v | that's rather stupid |
| 22:41.09 | david_v | i guess most people simply don't understand |
| 22:41.31 | JBDiGriz | or they don't trust Microsoft to do the job properly. |
| 22:41.41 | david_v | heh |
| 22:41.49 | david_v | no i think they're just lazy |
| 22:41.58 | prot-work | well |
| 22:42.01 | david_v | if they didn't trust MS they'd at least patch their leaky systems |
| 22:42.19 | david_v | if you see what i mean |
| 22:42.22 | prot-work | it does make it so that if the update server gets compromised, the shit hits the fan on our side |
| 22:42.34 | david_v | yes i know |
| 22:42.41 | david_v | that's why i asked about slow sites |
| 22:44.34 | david_v | wow... i have got a decent number of intrusion attempts on 135 here |
| 22:45.32 | david_v | about 20 today |
| 22:45.49 | david_v | from different hosts |
| 22:47.09 | david_v | decent number from what seems to be other customers using the same ISP |
| 22:48.02 | *** join/#bzflag Chestal (thilo@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 22:48.02 | *** join/#bzflag tea|tree_ (~tea|tree@pD9E9521F.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 22:48.02 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Chestal] by niven.freenode.net |
| 22:48.02 | *** mode/#bzflag [+bbb *!*@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net *gorb*!*@* *!*@12-221-176-131.client.insightBB.com] by calvino.freenode.net |
| 22:51.12 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): Use another python 2.2 feature to make Tweak and ParticleSystem both much more happy |
| 22:57.03 | david_v | prot-work, what do you think MS is going to do about this? is the worm attacking a certain IP, or everything that resolves to *windowsupdate*.com? |
| 22:57.26 | prot-work | david_v: dunno |
| 22:57.33 | prot-work | probably resolutions |
| 22:57.43 | prot-work | since windowsupdate runs on many IPs |
| 22:57.44 | david_v | they said it would knock the server offline Aug 16 |
| 22:57.48 | david_v | but it's rather slow already... |
| 22:58.10 | david_v | yea on many IPs, but it could have all the IPs programmed in. if not, MS is in real trouble |
| 22:58.16 | david_v | i think the worm is just making way for the real attack |
| 22:59.36 | david_v | BTW... |
| 22:59.50 | david_v | how would i know if a computer is infected? |
| 23:01.07 | prot-work | run a scanner |
| 23:01.13 | david_v | ah never mind found some info |
| 23:01.16 | prot-work | most AV programs have updates |
| 23:01.22 | david_v | yeah but just at sight i mean |
| 23:01.34 | david_v | found it anyway, Symantec has some good stuff |
| 23:04.07 | CIA | 03micahjd * 12pybzflag/ (2 files in 2 dirs): More attributes and properties for the little GUI |
| 23:14.44 | learnerAtWork | has anyone requested compile farm access on sf? |
| 23:19.04 | scanline | you don't have to request cf access |
| 23:19.06 | scanline | IIRC |
| 23:20.04 | learnerAtWork | it's opt-in to project developers |
| 23:20.20 | learnerAtWork | and I can't log in to cf.sourceforge.net too |
| 23:21.06 | learnerAtWork | eek -- I misunderstood the "opt-in" part |
| 23:21.16 | captain_proton | learnerAtWork: i've done it |
| 23:21.20 | learnerAtWork | _I_ can opt myself in |
| 23:21.33 | learnerAtWork | ~fishslap learnerAtWork |
| 23:21.34 | | ACTION slaps learnerAtWork up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 23:21.36 | *** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient80-218-118-173.hispeed.ch) |
| 23:26.38 | captain_proton | =) |
| 23:27.04 | learnerAtWork | I think I have them all now |
| 23:27.25 | captain_proton | scanline: i'm gonna force learnerAtWork to enship them all out to us |
| 23:27.26 | learnerAtWork | at least the years that provided digital media |
| 23:27.43 | scanline | =) |
| 23:28.05 | learnerAtWork | I have all the way back to '93 |
| 23:28.10 | captain_proton | wow |
| 23:28.15 | captain_proton | never do 'cvs up -pd' |
| 23:29.05 | learnerAtWork | -d? |
| 23:29.16 | learnerAtWork | ah.. nvr mind |
| 23:29.28 | learnerAtWork | opposite of -D right? |
| 23:29.38 | learnerAtWork | er, -P |
| 23:31.24 | learnerAtWork | oh.. pipe to stdout ;) hahah |
| 23:37.01 | david_v | night |
| 23:37.20 | david_v | will be interesting to see tomorrow if any of my friend's computers have been infected... |
