| 00:01.47 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (1000@ky-owensboro1a-242.owboky.adelphia.net) |
| 00:12.42 | learner | jbdigriz: bookmarked too.. wow |
| 00:13.06 | JBDiGriz | I'm bookmarked? |
| 00:13.30 | learner | if you're ifiction.com, then yes. yes you are bookmarked |
| 00:15.21 | JBDiGriz | Oh, that's what you mean. I was looking for a little tag coming out of my ear! |
| 00:15.34 | learner | no, that would be a babelfish |
| 00:15.59 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-217-133-255-182.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
| 00:21.00 | Patlabor221 | you go with organic translation services? |
| 00:27.11 | bryjen | ~bryjen |
| 00:59.22 | bryjen | anyone awake and got a 1.9 client? |
| 01:00.30 | doughecka | I am not awake |
| 01:00.33 | doughecka | :) |
| 01:00.44 | bryjen | :P |
| 01:15.18 | learner | ahh... playing asdf is refreshing |
| 01:15.22 | learner | and humbling |
| 01:15.32 | doughecka | poor learner... |
| 01:15.35 | doughecka | NOT |
| 01:15.36 | learner | indeed |
| 01:15.46 | doughecka | ;) |
| 01:15.59 | learner | asdf kicked my butt pretty bad |
| 01:16.22 | doughecka | remote butt kicker |
| 01:16.39 | *** join/#bzflag Chikorita (Chikorita@AC8650DC.ipt.aol.com) |
| 01:16.51 | learner | ibot: fishslap doughecka remotely |
| 01:16.53 | | ACTION slaps doughecka remotely up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 01:17.06 | doughecka | bah, that was my next one |
| 01:17.12 | bryjen | ibot: fishslap doughecka directly |
| 01:17.13 | | ACTION slaps doughecka directly up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 01:17.19 | Chikorita | lol |
| 01:17.27 | *** join/#bzflag BZSpiff (~BZSpiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 01:18.06 | BZSpiff | H3||0 p30p|3s. :-D |
| 01:19.19 | learner | howdy spaceman :) |
| 01:19.20 | Chikorita | |-|3Y 5pI/=/= :D |
| 01:19.35 | learner | i knew you were lurking there on the threads :) |
| 01:19.48 | learner | hehe |
| 01:20.06 | bryjen | getting some scrambled chars here |
| 01:20.09 | BZSpiff | You mean }{3Y. ;-) |
| 01:20.20 | BZSpiff | Oh yeah.... I'm still around. Just not playing... :-) |
| 01:21.17 | BZSpiff | I haven't been posting because I haven't seen anything worth posting about. ;) |
| 01:21.18 | bryjen | well, hopefully subjectS |
| 01:21.21 | BZSpiff | I'll help if I can, bryjen. |
| 01:22.36 | BZSpiff | Hehe. :-D |
| 01:24.05 | learner | spiff: that didn't stop you before :) (j/k) hehe |
| 01:24.59 | bryjen | have you posted the map anywhere yet? |
| 01:25.14 | BZSpiff | Hehehehe. Actually... those monstor maps went through a lot of development stages. I took tons of feedback from the players and altered my maps to fit their like/dislikes. However.. they were all "veteran" players... so the newbies hated the maps. ;-) |
| 01:25.31 | BZSpiff | Noperz, bryjen. It's a work in progress. I still have some stuff to add... :-) |
| 01:28.46 | *** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-63-204-118-194.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 01:29.43 | BZSpiff | }{U||0, JB. :-) |
| 01:30.00 | bzgirl | hi spif |
| 01:30.08 | BZSpiff | Hiyaz bzgirl. :-D |
| 01:30.41 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 01:31.03 | BZSpiff | ;) |
| 01:32.09 | BZSpiff | Mmmm... Snickers is the best tho. ;-) |
| 01:32.52 | JBDiGriz | I guess spiff, me, and bryjen make the 3 musketeers? |
| 01:34.00 | JBDiGriz | bzgirl: how are you? I can't seem to find a civil conversation around here today. |
| 01:34.34 | Chikorita | any1 want a vanilla pepsi? |
| 01:34.36 | bryjen | we have a mini-fridge?! |
| 01:34.47 | bzgirl | your in the wrong channell JBDiGriz, try #normal-people :) |
| 01:35.01 | JBDiGriz | Chikorita: I haven't tried those yet, are they any good? |
| 01:35.01 | Chikorita | heehe ya i hide it in da corna>>> |
| 01:35.04 | BZSpiff | I'm with bryjen. Nobody told me! ;-) |
| 01:35.08 | learner | lol |
| 01:35.10 | bryjen | that one's always empty |
| 01:35.18 | learner | hey, you're dead -- hush up |
| 01:35.24 | BZSpiff | Pff |
| 01:35.25 | Chikorita | yea dey r pretty good , betta dan da coke version dey copy catted off of |
| 01:35.26 | BZSpiff | ;) |
| 01:35.27 | JBDiGriz | bzgirl: I tried joining that one and it auto-kicked me! |
| 01:35.28 | bzgirl | heh, bryjen im banned anyway |
| 01:35.29 | learner | :) |
| 01:36.04 | Chikorita | ahh zombiee! |
| 01:36.21 | learner | just don't eat the cheese on the bottom shelf in that fridge |
| 01:36.23 | learner | it's not cheese |
| 01:36.27 | bryjen | arg. First you make me hungry and I have to go get a candybar, now another trip for a pop. |
| 01:36.29 | Chikorita | lol L |
| 01:36.45 | JBDiGriz | Whose turn is it to clean out the fridge? |
| 01:36.48 | BZSpiff | Hehehe bryjen. Grab one for me while you're at it. :-D |
| 01:36.49 | Chikorita | heh |
| 01:36.53 | Chikorita | not mee |
| 01:36.57 | BZSpiff | Whoever joined the channel last! |
| 01:37.03 | BZSpiff | Oh wait.... that's YOU, JB. ;-) |
| 01:37.07 | Chikorita | dat would b Jaybee |
| 01:37.09 | Chikorita | lol |
| 01:37.17 | BZSpiff | Should've kept quiet. ;-) |
| 01:37.23 | JBDiGriz | Hang on, let me get the blowtorch and start buttering my fingers up! |
| 01:37.29 | learner | lol |
| 01:37.30 | Chikorita | nooo |
| 01:37.33 | learner | delayed retort |
| 01:37.35 | learner | the best kind |
| 01:37.38 | BZSpiff | Hehehehe |
| 01:37.48 | learner | lol |
| 01:38.15 | JBDiGriz | Chikorita: come on over and help me winch open the door |
| 01:39.17 | JBDiGriz | It's suddenly very quiet. A spooky pall hangs over the channel. |
| 01:39.28 | JBDiGriz | Eery music is playing in the background. |
| 01:40.12 | Chikorita | {s - Twin Peaks theme music |
| 01:40.17 | JBDiGriz | The sound of a fridge door being winched open grates on everyone's ears like chalk on a blackboard. |
| 01:40.28 | Chikorita | ahh! |
| 01:40.44 | BZSpiff | Someone oil those hinges. ;-) |
| 01:40.49 | Chikorita | dunt break it okkkaay |
| 01:40.57 | JBDiGriz | That's not my job! |
| 01:41.01 | Chikorita | othawise itz warm soda 4 all |
| 01:41.34 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 01:41.48 | Chikorita | :\ |
| 01:41.49 | bryjen | pistash..pitachi..pistichi... awwww, nuts! ;) |
| 01:41.51 | JBDiGriz | learner: I stored the cheese in your coffee cup holder. |
| 01:42.01 | Chikorita | lol jaybee |
| 01:42.02 | doughecka | MY CDROM! |
| 01:42.04 | Chikorita | how nice |
| 01:42.53 | JBDiGriz | Hmmm, what's this, it's marked bzgirl and it looks like ....ewwwww. That goes into the trash. |
| 01:43.04 | learner | heh |
| 01:43.25 | Chikorita | *prays one day soon DVD recorders arent insanely overpriced* |
| 01:43.30 | JBDiGriz | Who put the plate of pistachioes in the fridge? They're going back into the cupboard. |
| 01:43.45 | Chikorita | lol jaybee |
| 01:44.08 | bzgirl | heh |
| 01:44.10 | Chikorita | those..pistachios ..r ..MOvInG! ahhh |
| 01:44.16 | JBDiGriz | A few more touches of the blowtorch, and there, it's as clean as it's gonna get tonight! |
| 01:44.32 | learner | Mmm.. roasted pistachios |
| 01:44.38 | BZSpiff | Hehehe Chik. I feel the same... I can't burn my pirated movies yet! |
| 01:44.41 | BZSpiff | Pffff. ;-) |
| 01:44.51 | Chikorita | hehee o spiffy |
| 01:45.25 | Chikorita | i bet spiff has all da "land before time" movies ;) |
| 01:45.53 | bryjen | Arrrr, ya' filthy buc'n-eer! |
| 01:46.26 | bryjen | wonder hour many hours of ogged cd tracks fit on a 4.7G DVD |
| 01:46.49 | BZSpiff | Umm.. no... I don't! ;-) |
| 01:46.52 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 01:47.15 | JBDiGriz | Since my iPod holds 5GB of music, I know it's at least a couple of days. |
| 01:48.19 | bryjen | hmm I've got ~2 billion bytes in 456 files |
| 01:50.37 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-132-222.ADSL.mnsi.net) |
| 01:50.39 | bryjen | 29.5 hours |
| 01:50.40 | Carnage | hi |
| 01:51.01 | Chikorita | hi carny |
| 01:51.06 | learner | hello |
| 01:51.22 | bzgirl | anyone good with Gimp here? |
| 01:51.40 | bzgirl | whats the kb shortcut to switch FG to BG? |
| 01:53.52 | BZSpiff | Sorry bzgirl.. no clue. Gimp sorta hates me. :- |
| 01:53.55 | BZSpiff | :-| |
| 01:53.59 | bryjen | X |
| 01:54.11 | learner | X |
| 01:54.16 | learner | er, ya, what he said |
| 01:55.01 | learner | bzgirl: appendix A of the gimp user manual has a big list of them all |
| 01:55.45 | learner | help->help->context->"Keyboard Shortcuts" |
| 01:56.51 | bryjen | odd. it seems i have no help :( |
| 01:57.06 | bzgirl | its "x" |
| 01:57.07 | learner | should be on the toolbar menu -- try resizing :) |
| 01:57.20 | bzgirl | http://gimp-savvy.com/BOOK/index.html |
| 01:58.18 | bryjen | I have a menu for help... |
| 01:58.35 | learner | http://manual.gimp.org/ |
| 01:58.46 | bryjen | Ah. it opened it in an already-open-but-iconified mozilla window. Duh. |
| 01:58.55 | learner | ah |
| 01:59.13 | learner | ibot: fishslap mozilla |
| 01:59.14 | | ACTION slaps mozilla up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 02:03.33 | BZSpiff | What are "vict^Wplayers?" |
| 02:04.17 | bryjen | victims, inflictees, targets |
| 02:04.28 | JBDiGriz | <ctrl>-w deletes the word in some cli's |
| 02:04.34 | captain_proton | sponges |
| 02:04.43 | BZSpiff | I'll test with ya. Do I need a new client? |
| 02:05.04 | BZSpiff | I have one from a Win binary Patlabor posted like ages ago... while the Rabbit Hunt game was being tested. |
| 02:05.05 | bryjen | yeah. |
| 02:05.19 | bryjen | there's a new one. look in the topic line here |
| 02:05.35 | BZSpiff | Okies. I'll take a looksie. :-) |
| 02:06.02 | bryjen | http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/19/ |
| 02:06.56 | BZSpiff | C'mon peoples... help. He's only got one so far. LoL :-) |
| 02:07.01 | bryjen | Any more brave souls? |
| 02:07.14 | captain_proton | i would, but i'm on shared 56k at the moment |
| 02:07.49 | JBDiGriz | I'm building right now, but I'll be around shortly |
| 02:07.50 | BZSpiff | A *shared* 56k?? I didn't know that was possible. |
| 02:08.15 | captain_proton | BZSpiff: yeah. its like connecting a home network to cable, except its connected to a modem |
| 02:08.18 | bryjen | doubt it'll reach from here tho :( |
| 02:08.31 | captain_proton | i think we've only got 3 or 4 active machines |
| 02:08.49 | JBDiGriz | I've used shared modems for a long time. I much prefer having the DSL. I still have the modem as a backup into my home network. |
| 02:09.01 | BZSpiff | Wow. I didn't know that was possible... cool. :-) |
| 02:09.41 | BZSpiff | By the way............. |
| 02:09.47 | BZSpiff | What's up with "BZ Flag XL?" |
| 02:10.24 | bryjen | BZSpiff: http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/viewtopic.php?t=891 |
| 02:10.34 | bryjen | down toward the bottom |
| 02:11.23 | BZSpiff | I thought Patlabor's was called BZFlag Zero.. hmm. |
| 02:12.10 | BZSpiff | Well... anywayz... I downloaded it out of curiosity...... and it shows me why you dev's never put a 2nd or 3rd person view into the main game. |
| 02:12.46 | BZSpiff | Ick. Very stiff feeling.... and ugly. I hate it. |
| 02:12.51 | captain_proton | we've got them |
| 02:12.55 | captain_proton | observer is 3rd person |
| 02:13.09 | captain_proton | and second person is possible with a special compile |
| 02:13.13 | captain_proton | but you're right, stiff |
| 02:13.43 | BZSpiff | Well.. for driving.. ick. |
| 02:13.46 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-226-59.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 02:14.02 | BZSpiff | I usually observe like 500 ticks in the air.. looking down at the whole map. LoL |
| 02:14.15 | BZSpiff | }{3||0 DTR. :-) |
| 02:14.19 | bryjen | eeep. I don't think I'd trust lusers distributing cheats not to put backdoors or viri in them. |
| 02:14.21 | DTRemenak | 'lo |
| 02:14.31 | BZSpiff | It's a cheat? |
| 02:14.50 | BZSpiff | I didn't notice anything abnormal about it.. minus those stupid views. |
| 02:15.16 | bryjen | There's apparently one that goes by that name. Don't know if that's what you got tho. |
| 02:16.07 | bryjen | Unless pat just meant the extra visibility could be considered a cheat |
| 02:18.04 | BZSpiff | I can't get the web page to open now. |
| 02:18.09 | BZSpiff | Hmm...... explain this...... |
| 02:18.20 | BZSpiff | http://stats.bzflag.org/score.php?scoretype=high |
| 02:18.37 | BZSpiff | Someone using my callsign has 7,000 points....... but it's listed separately. |
| 02:18.59 | bryjen | ~T~ and ~A~ |
| 02:19.11 | BZSpiff | Ahh. Didn't notice that. |
| 02:19.13 | Chikorita | *downloading 1.9a0.8.18* 78%... |
| 02:19.21 | Chikorita | T & A eh.. |
| 02:19.24 | BZSpiff | However.. the ~T~ is me as a Titan.. it IS my callsign. :( |
| 02:19.25 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 02:19.46 | bryjen | you've developed split personalities? ;) |
| 02:19.47 | BZSpiff | I was [RLF], [~T~], and now I'm [~A~]. |
| 02:20.02 | bryjen | or timetravel |
| 02:20.40 | BZSpiff | And I can't log into stats to reset that score. Arg... that bites. |
| 02:21.08 | bryjen | ah. its stil b0rken. |
| 02:21.27 | bryjen | ~seen Noodleman |
| 02:21.27 | | noodleman <cyber@webirc.caffeine-powered.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 4d 10h 36m 28s ago, saying: 'we are at our destination, just don['t have a house yet'. |
| 02:21.46 | BZSpiff | Yep... sure is. Methinks that the high score list should just be destroyed. The only people at the top anymore are cheaters. |
| 02:23.33 | bryjen | ooo! a player! |
| 02:24.00 | BZSpiff | Oh..... we're testing now? |
| 02:24.07 | BZSpiff | Sorry... didn't know. I'll connect. :-) |
| 02:26.15 | Chikorita | bryjen: sowee i hafta log offa irc 2 help ya test |
| 02:26.33 | Chikorita | bryjen: i wil rejoin wait 4 mee k? |
| 02:26.37 | Chikorita | bbl all |
| 02:27.58 | learner | test? wha? shot who? |
| 02:30.27 | *** join/#bzflag captain_proton (~blardebla@0-1pool68-98.nas25.thornton1.co.us.da.qwest.net) |
| 02:30.28 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o captain_proton] by ChanServ |
| 02:35.45 | BZSpiff | Test... on bryjen's server.... right now. :-) |
| 02:36.51 | learner | 1.9 or 1.7? |
| 02:37.54 | learner | ah..1.9 |
| 02:38.18 | learner | hrmm.. I'm seeing the same issue entering game with multiple players from the other day |
| 02:38.23 | learner | is that server up to date? |
| 02:38.32 | learner | that stuff was supposed to be fixed |
| 02:39.09 | *** part/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-226-59.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 02:45.22 | *** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-63-204-118-194.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 02:45.41 | JBDiGriz | I can't jump, and I can't type messages. |
| 02:45.52 | BZSpiff | How do you get rid of the "mail line" in this new config file? |
| 02:45.54 | learner | as it should be.. tanks can't jump :) |
| 02:46.05 | JBDiGriz | Learner may have disabled jump in this build, but I don't think he did in the messages |
| 02:46.18 | learner | hehe true |
| 02:46.23 | learner | heck, I can't even join :/ |
| 02:46.26 | BZSpiff | Just a brief note..... I can't change radar zoom while I have Burrow. |
| 02:47.34 | JBDiGriz | I joined and fragged bryjen, but that was it. |
| 02:47.44 | *** join/#bzflag Chikorita (Chikorita@AC801842.ipt.aol.com) |
| 02:48.04 | Chikorita | hmm so far BU flag can defeat anutha BU flag |
| 02:49.07 | Chikorita | bryjen: i couldnt find a SR flag anywhere on dat map |
| 02:49.56 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 02:51.14 | learner | ~quol |
| 02:51.35 | Chikorita | o dere dey r |
| 02:51.37 | Chikorita | heh |
| 02:51.40 | learner | ;) |
| 02:52.30 | JBDiGriz | I removed the prefs file and i still couldn't send messages or jump. |
| 02:52.36 | JBDiGriz | bryjen: That was me! |
| 02:53.02 | JBDiGriz | learner: Your language hack isn't working on call signs. |
| 02:53.31 | learner | jb: where? |
| 02:53.37 | bryjen | ack. bzfs crashed |
| 02:53.45 | bryjen | BZSpiff: ?? |
| 02:54.01 | JBDiGriz | I only saw one brlcad.org listed for 1.9 |
| 02:54.11 | bryjen | the theif effect seemed a little buggy |
| 02:54.12 | BZSpiff | Yep.. I'm here. :-) |
| 02:54.16 | BZSpiff | Yeah.. I think so. |
| 02:54.21 | learner | hrmm.. |
| 02:54.24 | BZSpiff | I love the flag tho..... and the ray is purdy. :-D |
| 02:54.28 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 02:54.48 | bryjen | Spiff LoLed and bzfs segfaulted ! ;) |
| 02:55.04 | JBDiGriz | I think that's the appropriate response. |
| 02:55.23 | BZSpiff | Oops. ;-) |
| 02:55.38 | bryjen | Ah. JB was xxx |
| 02:55.50 | BZSpiff | No wonder "xxx" sucked so badly. ;-) |
| 02:55.51 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 02:56.57 | bryjen | got messages about "uread() discard packet!" with Chik's IP "choices p(l) h:p" |
| 02:58.09 | bryjen | JBDiGriz: playing from a mac? |
| 02:58.11 | JBDiGriz | It's hard to shoot, when you're trying to figure out why the keyboard isn't working. |
| 02:58.16 | JBDiGriz | bryjen: yep |
| 02:59.34 | BZSpiff | Whoa! |
| 02:59.39 | BZSpiff | I wondered why my PC is so laggy. |
| 02:59.48 | BZSpiff | I'm 93% un-fragmented. Time for a defrag. |
| 03:00.03 | Chikorita | yea da send messages was kinda slow |
| 03:00.19 | scanline | BZSpiff: defrag? people still have to defrag these days? |
| 03:00.50 | learner | silly windows fat32 users |
| 03:00.56 | bryjen | unfragmented would be good, correct? no fragments? so you 93% good? |
| 03:01.17 | BZSpiff | Yes... but it's Win ME.... and 95% can mean a serious drop in performance. :( |
| 03:02.02 | bryjen | any that's only really slow you down if your manipulating files. bz should fit all into RAM, no disk i/o required after load. |
| 03:02.15 | Chikorita | unfraggin takes 4everrr blah |
| 03:02.24 | BZSpiff | Oh.. I didn't mean in BZ. I meant the PC in general. :) |
| 03:02.38 | BZSpiff | IE has been really slow today... and all of my apps. Even BZ Edit has been slow. |
| 03:02.52 | Chikorita | a thorough defrag takes like 1 hour or more |
| 03:03.00 | scanline | BZSpiff: maybe you should switch to a filesystem that never needs defragging |
| 03:03.25 | BZSpiff | scanline: like.....? |
| 03:03.32 | scanline | BZSpiff: reiserfs |
| 03:03.44 | BZSpiff | Huh? LoL |
| 03:03.51 | *** join/#bzflag Croooow (foo@mper-aa018.gtcom.net) |
| 03:03.59 | scanline | or ext3, XFS, ext2, JFS... |
| 03:03.59 | Croooow | hello |
| 03:04.06 | scanline | even NTFS would be better than FAT32 :) |
| 03:04.13 | Chikorita | hello |
| 03:04.16 | bzgirl | hi Croooow |
| 03:04.22 | BZSpiff | Hi Croooow. |
| 03:04.40 | Chikorita | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:04.45 | bryjen | ja, pick one of those running Linux and then run Windows ME in an emulater ;) |
| 03:04.59 | BZSpiff | I want Win XP tho. ;-) |
| 03:05.07 | Chikorita | XP iz good |
| 03:05.16 | bryjen | 2K and XP are continuations of the NT line |
| 03:05.19 | Chikorita | winME iz poo poo |
| 03:05.33 | BZSpiff | The fact is.. I'm trying to spend LESS time time on the PC... and getting Linux would thwart that effort. :-) |
| 03:05.34 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 03:05.52 | Chikorita | i had NT4.0 ...stil have nitemares too |
| 03:06.37 | Chikorita | never used any on dat networking stuff |
| 03:06.47 | Chikorita | of* |
| 03:06.50 | bryjen | I've got a copy of 3.5 at work. Program manager and File manager. |
| 03:06.59 | bryjen | Who needs a start button. |
| 03:07.44 | Chikorita | {s Rolling Stones - Start Me Up |
| 03:08.13 | *** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-63-204-118-194.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 03:08.21 | Chikorita | wb Jaybee |
| 03:08.33 | bryjen | The Beatles - All you need is love. |
| 03:09.37 | Chikorita | lol dese new hummer commercials r so funnyyy |
| 03:09.44 | Chikorita | ii jus saw anutha 1 |
| 03:10.26 | bryjen | JBDiGriz: keyboard still working here? |
| 03:10.36 | learner | jbdigriz: you say you're able to join brlcad.org using an obscene callsign?? |
| 03:10.46 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 03:10.47 | learner | I just tested, it's working for me properly |
| 03:10.50 | Chikorita | bbl |
| 03:10.59 | BZSpiff | LoL learner |
| 03:11.37 | learner | care to test it spiff? |
| 03:11.48 | bryjen | hmm. need to handshake the definition of obscene... |
| 03:12.01 | learner | callsign and chat filtering are both enabled |
| 03:12.40 | BZSpiff | Umm.. no thanks. I'd rather leave it up to someone who can think up "creative" callsigns like spoogebob. |
| 03:12.41 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 03:14.09 | bryjen | should I see my own filtered chat? |
| 03:14.27 | learner | you should see the message replace with punctuation |
| 03:14.38 | bryjen | heh. ok |
| 03:14.43 | learner | and .. hehe |
| 03:14.55 | learner | you have to try something more offensive than "poo poo" :) |
| 03:15.14 | BZSpiff | I guess that means I'm out of the game. :-) |
| 03:15.15 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 03:15.20 | bryjen | I said some s--- |
| 03:15.50 | learner | $h1t got through? |
| 03:16.12 | bryjen | I copied the poo thing from Chik |
| 03:16.28 | JBDiGriz | I definitely joined brlcad.org. You can decide whether you think the callsign is obscene, but it's the same as bryjen's comment. |
| 03:18.18 | bryjen | the $ for s seems to get thru |
| 03:18.25 | learner | hrm.. odd |
| 03:18.42 | learner | I bet it's because it's a non-alphanumeric as the first character |
| 03:22.42 | bryjen | learner: i think its leaving the $$ as $$. which doesn't change a$$ |
| 03:24.47 | learner | hrm.. I might have disabled $ matching during testing |
| 03:25.20 | learner | the l33t-speak matching is pretty basic |
| 03:27.17 | learner | hehe, you guys are hilarious :) |
| 03:48.22 | Carnage | any i g2g cya later |
| 03:56.48 | *** join/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 03:56.55 | SGI | hello |
| 03:56.59 | SGI | ola |
| 03:57.02 | learner | ola |
| 04:00.07 | SGI | ~seen quol |
| 04:00.07 | | quol <~chatzilla@modemcable052.11-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 4d 1h 47m 10s ago, saying: 'ya beat me to it'. |
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| 04:06.01 | learner | what filthy mouthed minds on brlcad.org :) |
| 04:06.42 | learner | so, I have some questions regarding vulgarity and obscenities |
| 04:07.16 | learner | ~dict fark |
| 04:07.32 | learner | ~dict horz |
| 04:08.06 | *** join/#bzflag Chikorita (Chikorita@AC9F3371.ipt.aol.com) |
| 04:08.11 | Chikorita | :) |
| 04:08.24 | learner | what a filthy mouth you have there chika :) |
| 04:08.31 | BZSpiff | Just 3 more points and I would've been 5/1 with ya again. ;-) |
| 04:08.32 | Chikorita | lol im sowee |
| 04:08.34 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 04:08.38 | BZSpiff | I'll c-ya later all. :-) |
| 04:08.44 | Chikorita | k nite spiffy |
| 04:08.48 | Chikorita | gg |
| 04:08.49 | BZSpiff | It was fun being cussed out by you. ;-) |
| 04:08.49 | BZSpiff | LoL |
| 04:08.49 | learner | hehe, don't be sorry -- the filter needed that kind of testing |
| 04:09.04 | *** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~orchid@ottawa-hs-64-26-167-123.d-ip.magma.ca) |
| 04:09.14 | learner | it's funny how you guys feel so guilty :) |
| 04:09.35 | BZSpiff | Hehe... same here. I don't ever say that stuff. |
| 04:09.54 | learner | very helpful |
| 04:09.56 | Chikorita | i dunt like 2 say bad werds , buh i do anyting 2 help out L :D |
| 04:10.04 | learner | so of the stuff that got through -- what should not have? |
| 04:10.14 | BZSpiff | Same here. Especially if it means blowing his tank up. |
| 04:10.14 | BZSpiff | nLoL |
| 04:10.22 | bryjen | ja, we sure had to twist you arm to get it outta ya ;) |
| 04:10.25 | BZSpiff | I still think Fark should not. |
| 04:10.29 | BZSpiff | And putz. |
| 04:10.34 | Chikorita | if wee say dem now , den bad peepz wont b able 2 say dem later :D |
| 04:10.46 | bryjen | oops. i didn't try one |
| 04:11.02 | learner | chika, they'll say them anyways :) |
| 04:11.05 | Chikorita | da werd "piss" should be filtered tho |
| 04:11.07 | BZSpiff | Anyway... I'm off.. time for cerial before bed. ;-) C-ya later all. :-D |
| 04:11.19 | BZSpiff | Yes... I agree with Chik on that. |
| 04:11.23 | learner | piss is rude, not exactly vulgar or obscene |
| 04:11.28 | Chikorita | dey can say dem , buh othas wont b able 2 c dem dats da point |
| 04:11.33 | learner | like I gotto go piss really bad |
| 04:11.38 | Chikorita | o |
| 04:11.40 | bryjen | cool it caught it |
| 04:11.41 | Chikorita | lol |
| 04:11.42 | BZSpiff | Laterz all. |
| 04:11.51 | Chikorita | k nite Spiff |
| 04:11.59 | learner | thanks spiff |
| 04:12.01 | bryjen | restroom;s down the hall on the right |
| 04:12.07 | BZSpiff | Yw, learner. :-D |
| 04:12.08 | BZSpiff | C-ya. |
| 04:12.42 | Chikorita | i dunno peeple could say "piss off" an dat iz not nice |
| 04:13.10 | Chikorita | if u gotta go 2 da bathroom peeple can say " i gotta go pee" or P P or #1 |
| 04:13.16 | bryjen | and pee works ok for the bodily function |
| 04:13.17 | learner | right -- not nice is okay :) |
| 04:13.32 | bryjen | urinate even |
| 04:13.49 | learner | it's downright insulting stuff that is supposed to be caught -- at least a majority |
| 04:14.15 | learner | it's a fine line.. |
| 04:14.23 | Chikorita | ya |
| 04:14.24 | bryjen | you've got piss in other languages |
| 04:14.38 | Chikorita | wel itz a good filter ...catches all da major bad werds |
| 04:15.05 | learner | so what about retard bastid horz spooge pussy and fark? |
| 04:15.11 | Chikorita | lol L |
| 04:15.13 | bryjen | and "adolph hitler" ?? |
| 04:15.16 | learner | retard is rude, imo, but not obscene |
| 04:15.23 | bryjen | p____ is blocked |
| 04:15.24 | learner | bastid is same |
| 04:15.29 | learner | dunno about horz |
| 04:15.35 | learner | it is? |
| 04:15.36 | learner | hrm |
| 04:15.41 | Chikorita | iznt horz a french werd? |
| 04:15.46 | learner | maybe pu$$y wasn't |
| 04:15.51 | Chikorita | like hor's dourvs ;) |
| 04:16.14 | bryjen | if you use $$, it seems to leave the $$ alone. yes the p, u, and y become something else in pu$$y |
| 04:16.16 | learner | pussy cat pussy cat, I love you |
| 04:16.21 | Chikorita | lol |
| 04:16.37 | learner | Pussy Galore in James Bond movie |
| 04:16.50 | learner | hrm |
| 04:16.58 | learner | dunno about fark as well |
| 04:17.29 | learner | with a fark? |
| 04:17.32 | Chikorita | i was able 2 say "mo fo" there |
| 04:17.42 | Chikorita | i think mo fo should b filtered? yes? |
| 04:17.43 | bryjen | spork! |
| 04:17.51 | Chikorita | spork! |
| 04:17.55 | Chikorita | :D |
| 04:18.07 | learner | I'm gonna go grab some mo foo because I'm hungry |
| 04:18.12 | bzgirl | bamf's old nick was badassmofo |
| 04:18.23 | Chikorita | lol bzg |
| 04:18.37 | bzgirl | but he shortened it to bamf |
| 04:18.38 | bryjen | grrr. did the thing with the double $$ even sink in, learner ? |
| 04:18.49 | bryjen | SYN SYN SYN SYN |
| 04:19.12 | Chikorita | i sed "fugger" too |
| 04:19.23 | Chikorita | and "poo" |
| 04:19.26 | Chikorita | lol |
| 04:19.49 | learner | bryjen: yes, I heard you -- i'll fix that |
| 04:19.59 | learner | it's supposed to catch that |
| 04:20.33 | Chikorita | i called Spiff a "sussudio" |
| 04:20.43 | Chikorita | dat was 2 mean |
| 04:20.52 | learner | lol, chika |
| 04:20.53 | bryjen | it does, but is doesn't change the $ to another punct mark, so a$$ stays a$$, and pu$$y becomes something like !@$$# |
| 04:21.24 | learner | that's expected, except for the a$$ one not working |
| 04:21.54 | bryjen | i bet it _IS_ working. it doesn't look like it changes the $ even if the word registers as bad |
| 04:22.09 | Chikorita | i dunt like da werd "wussy" either ..itz jus like p***y xcept wif a "w" |
| 04:22.31 | learner | it won't modify punctuation presently -- only alphabet characters |
| 04:22.45 | bryjen | exactly |
| 04:23.09 | learner | i specifically made it behave that way |
| 04:23.19 | bryjen | 10...9...8...7...6..5 |
| 04:23.29 | bryjen | i'm probly just being obtuse again |
| 04:23.35 | Chikorita | lol bryjen , mee 2 |
| 04:23.52 | Chikorita | u obtuse orangatan |
| 04:23.56 | Chikorita | ;) |
| 04:23.58 | Chikorita | lol |
| 04:24.27 | bryjen | hehe. i called Spiff a crotch monkey, and it went thru :) embarrassing |
| 04:24.32 | Chikorita | lol |
| 04:24.59 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/misc (multilingualSwearList.txt): added b*d*ssm*f* and sp**g* |
| 04:25.07 | Chikorita | i sed "jelly" an spiff got offended so i sed dat spiff eats smelly jelly sammiches LoL |
| 04:25.39 | learner | that really doesn't seem rude to me |
| 04:25.54 | bryjen | you were implying that smuckers was f-ers, so smuckers jelly..... |
| 04:26.01 | Chikorita | lol ya |
| 04:26.25 | Chikorita | now dat u mention it..eww |
| 04:26.34 | bryjen | indeed |
| 04:26.35 | Chikorita | dat iz kinda icky |
| 04:27.32 | Chikorita | anywayz it was fun , dat was mah 1st time playin Hunt-da-wabbit server |
| 04:27.45 | bryjen | just to make myself feel better, mosta the folks here are in their 20's and 30's, no? |
| 04:28.13 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/misc (multilingualSwearList.txt): updates |
| 04:28.18 | bryjen | s/and/or cuz you cant be both |
| 04:29.52 | Chikorita | jus as long as itz not da soap LoL |
| 04:30.11 | Chikorita | lol i am bad |
| 04:30.21 | bryjen | *crrrrr-ash* a 100lb retaining pin for a vault door |
| 04:30.38 | learner | that's a big haystack then :) |
| 04:30.39 | Chikorita | lol wow where did dat come from |
| 04:31.03 | DTRemenak | from somewhere with a vault, I presume |
| 04:31.15 | bryjen | as long as we dont bring barnyard animals into this, as no ones answered my question yet |
| 04:31.40 | DTRemenak | most barnyard animals don't make it to their 20s or 30s |
| 04:31.41 | Chikorita | hmm a vault eh .. |
| 04:32.44 | bryjen | ~fishslap #bzflag |
| 04:32.45 | | ACTION slaps #bzflag up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 04:33.06 | learner | Mmm.. fish |
| 04:33.08 | bryjen | a biiiig one aparently |
| 04:33.09 | DTRemenak | the whole channel, eh? seems a bit excessive. |
| 04:33.29 | DTRemenak | and since when did channels have heads? |
| 04:33.33 | learner | what does the common populace think would be a good idea for a command name that would initiate a ban vote? |
| 04:34.01 | bryjen | eh |
| 04:34.04 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:34.09 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:34.23 | bryjen | well, sure, take the easy one ;) |
| 04:34.37 | bryjen | slow and right over the plate |
| 04:34.54 | Chikorita | lol |
| 04:34.55 | learner | so maybe /banvote learner |
| 04:35.02 | learner | and /vote yes|no |
| 04:35.18 | bryjen | again |
| 04:35.21 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:35.47 | bryjen | and make sure PlayerInLimbo can't vote |
| 04:36.16 | DTRemenak | maybe /ban leaner by a non priviledged player (I assume that's why there's a vote) then /banvote yes|no by everyone else |
| 04:36.16 | learner | which players are marked as PlayerInLimbo? |
| 04:36.24 | DTRemenak | s/leaner/learner |
| 04:36.36 | learner | DT: that was what I originally thought |
| 04:36.49 | DTRemenak | and then? |
| 04:36.58 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:37.01 | learner | and then /vote ... |
| 04:37.06 | bryjen | or PlayerNoExist or PlayerDead |
| 04:37.14 | learner | if you were admin, the ban would just happen |
| 04:37.18 | DTRemenak | maybe we want to leave room for other types of votes? ;) |
| 04:37.32 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:37.36 | learner | bryjen: being dead is a perfect time to vote :? |
| 04:37.50 | DTRemenak | dead men can vote? |
| 04:37.55 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:37.57 | DTRemenak | Actually, I agree |
| 04:38.27 | learner | perhaps there are other types of voting, but there will probably never be multiple simultaneous polls |
| 04:38.48 | Chikorita | so how many yes votes would allow 4 a ban or boot? |
| 04:38.59 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:39.36 | learner | chika, it'll be server configurable |
| 04:39.37 | DTRemenak | learner: what happens if someone says /banvote Spoongebob and then someone else says /banvote learner after ppl are just ready to hit enter after n/ban yes? |
| 04:39.45 | Chikorita | o okies |
| 04:40.06 | learner | hence, good reasoning for allowing only one vote at a time |
| 04:40.12 | bryjen | the second /banvote shouldnt take effect while the 1st ones in progress |
| 04:40.13 | *** part/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@pcp01642968pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 04:40.20 | Chikorita | ya |
| 04:40.21 | learner | there will be limiters for repeat vote initiations per player |
| 04:40.33 | bryjen | err, how do you determine when its done? |
| 04:40.35 | learner | once every N minutes or something |
| 04:40.36 | Chikorita | 2nd vote wont werk til 1st one iz finished |
| 04:40.47 | DTRemenak | in that case, what if someone says /banvote learner and everyone abstains? |
| 04:40.50 | learner | vote will last for a predetermined amount of time |
| 04:40.53 | DTRemenak | do we want a timeout? |
| 04:40.56 | DTRemenak | ah, ok |
| 04:40.59 | learner | ban will last until a majority of the voters have left |
| 04:41.05 | DTRemenak | lol |
| 04:41.07 | learner | say 1 min to vote |
| 04:41.10 | DTRemenak | that could be...interesting |
| 04:41.31 | learner | and 1 min to veto the vote |
| 04:41.44 | DTRemenak | what command to veto? |
| 04:41.45 | Chikorita | good idea i like it |
| 04:41.51 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.53 | DTRemenak | lol |
| 04:41.57 | bryjen | you mean just /vote no ? |
| 04:42.08 | DTRemenak | no, an admin veto |
| 04:42.12 | Chikorita | buh a server admin should stil b able 2 ban or boot an obvious cheater or cusser or tk'er |
| 04:42.20 | bryjen | if there's admin around. you dont need to vote. |
| 04:42.30 | Chikorita | an not take up 2 much time doin a vote |
| 04:42.34 | learner | no, after the poll terminates and the player _will_ be banned, I want to allow admins a little time to override and veto |
| 04:42.50 | DTRemenak | so they can complain on #bzflag? ;) |
| 04:43.03 | learner | chika, sure admins will still be able to ban/kick immediately |
| 04:43.03 | Chikorita | ooH dis iz so playerz can vote 2 bann or boot ..ah i c |
| 04:43.10 | DTRemenak | why bother with veto, not just use /unban |
| 04:43.33 | DTRemenak | have a ban countdown, and if /unban is issued before the ban takes effect, it's cancelled? |
| 04:43.46 | learner | the veto would occur prior to ban |
| 04:43.53 | learner | after ban, admin would have to unban |
| 04:44.00 | Chikorita | hmm i can c dere might b a ban-vote war in da message consoles lol |
| 04:44.13 | learner | or perhaps even /vote unban |
| 04:44.28 | Chikorita | hmm i dunno bout dis |
| 04:45.11 | learner | by default, I'm planning on making it require at least 50% participation and 100% agreement |
| 04:45.23 | DTRemenak | sounds good |
| 04:45.46 | DTRemenak | but the player who is in question shouldn't be voting if it's 100% approval |
| 04:45.50 | learner | and at least 3 votes |
| 04:46.23 | bryjen | at least half the players in a server have to vote and all say yes to set a ban |
| 04:46.56 | learner | bryjen: yes |
| 04:47.20 | learner | basically if _everyone_ who cares wants you off the field -- you're gone until those players leave |
| 04:47.29 | bryjen | ja, the target's vote shouldn't count :) |
| 04:47.37 | Chikorita | iz dis 4 boot only yes? or ban too? |
| 04:47.47 | bryjen | temporary ban |
| 04:47.57 | Chikorita | wut if a buncha mean noobies occupy da field ? |
| 04:47.59 | DTRemenak | learner: perhaps the admin should have a "permanent unban" ability too? like -ban on the commandline but -dontban? |
| 04:48.11 | Chikorita | bryjen: o okies |
| 04:48.22 | learner | there's not much point to a kick -- this is intended to confront blatent cheaters and assclowns |
| 04:48.35 | bryjen | uh-huh. like -dontban the.admins.workstation |
| 04:48.39 | Chikorita | admins should have immunity |
| 04:48.44 | DTRemenak | bryjen: yeah |
| 04:48.46 | DTRemenak | like that |
| 04:49.33 | learner | dtr: if an admin has such issues with banning, they could simply not allow voting or only allow authorized users to issue the command (ala /superkill etc) |
| 04:49.43 | bryjen | you could always just kill bzfs and restart to clear bans. |
| 04:50.21 | bryjen | pat was talking about adding a vote permission so you could limit it to registered and trusted users |
| 04:50.35 | learner | chika: admins have immunity inherintly -- they'd simply veto the vote and kick everyone off :) |
| 04:50.38 | DTRemenak | wouldn't that kind of defeat the point of a vote? |
| 04:50.43 | Chikorita | wil da person who iz subjected 2 a ban vote b able 2 c wuts goin on? an can dat person vote as well ? |
| 04:51.05 | DTRemenak | they should be able to see, but not to vote |
| 04:51.08 | learner | bryjen: the code to limit it to a group is already there -- it's server configurable as it is |
| 04:51.21 | Chikorita | so a veto would boot all da voters? |
| 04:51.22 | DTRemenak | seeing someone initiate a banvote would be a warning, kinda like /kick |
| 04:51.39 | learner | chika: they would know just like everyone else |
| 04:51.46 | Chikorita | o okieas |
| 04:51.50 | learner | the only thing you will not know is who votes what |
| 04:51.56 | Chikorita | k |
| 04:52.03 | DTRemenak | yeah, but it should display a tally |
| 04:52.03 | learner | voting would be hidden ballot |
| 04:52.08 | bryjen | Chikorita: an Admin can use /superkill and boot 'em all |
| 04:52.17 | DTRemenak | so you know if you /just missed/ getting thrown off |
| 04:52.32 | DTRemenak | or if it was a freak accident |
| 04:53.01 | learner | the nice part of the system is that it has karma built in on a social level |
| 04:53.24 | DTRemenak | lol, complicated people instead of complicated machines? |
| 04:53.42 | DTRemenak | some tradeoff...I'd go for the machines personally. At least the bugs can be FIXED |
| 04:53.43 | learner | if chestal, for example, requested a ban vote for some player -- I'd probably vote yes simply because chestal requested it |
| 04:53.51 | Chikorita | maybee wee jus need more trustwerthy admins |
| 04:54.02 | learner | if some unknown newbie requested it, I might deny unless the reason is obvious |
| 04:54.36 | DTRemenak | Is the requester's identity known to the ban-subject or not? |
| 04:54.50 | learner | chika: ban voting works impressively well for other very popular on-line games |
| 04:54.51 | DTRemenak | I can see problems both ways |
| 04:55.08 | learner | dtr: yes |
| 04:55.09 | Chikorita | buh i am open minded so i say letz give it a try :) an c how it goes |
| 04:55.14 | bryjen | there's asking for the, ahem, colorful kill messages type thing. "95% wanted to ban Foo. Watch out, buddy." "5% tried to ban Foo. What were they thinking?" |
| 04:55.23 | learner | it matters who initiates the action |
| 04:55.52 | Chikorita | heh bryjen dat would b kewl 2 c da results |
| 04:56.08 | DTRemenak | learner: didn't mean the voters, THEY should know...the person who is being targetted, do THEY know the initiator, or not? |
| 04:56.20 | Chikorita | makes u tink who voted an who didnt |
| 04:56.35 | learner | dtr: sure -- right to face your accusor |
| 04:57.05 | DTRemenak | I'm just thinking of all the "you killed me so I'll start a banvote on you" situations that might encourage |
| 04:57.07 | learner | it might even make sense for the person being voted on to allow them to vote |
| 04:57.31 | learner | then the percentage becomes maxvoters-1 |
| 04:57.32 | Chikorita | grr dang cheaterz ...c wut kinda hassle dey make 4 us honest peeps >:( |
| 04:58.16 | Chikorita | dats y i hate cheaterz so much dey ruin eveyting an da honor system |
| 04:58.36 | DTRemenak | and you can take that any way you want |
| 04:59.14 | learner | think about it chika, you'd never need an admin to conveniently "be around" when some idiot joins and starts causing trouble |
| 04:59.23 | Chikorita | ya tru |
| 04:59.29 | DTRemenak | indeed |
| 04:59.36 | learner | wouldn't have to hunt one down in irc |
| 04:59.55 | Chikorita | buh it might start a ban war like i mentioned earlier |
| 04:59.57 | DTRemenak | where many of them are logged in but not actually there :) |
| 05:00.01 | Chikorita | more fueds |
| 05:00.05 | Chikorita | feuds* |
| 05:00.16 | Chikorita | an message clutter |
| 05:00.31 | DTRemenak | BZFlag feuds? Bit serious, some of these playerz are! |
| 05:00.36 | learner | chika: perhaps -- I'll have to be careful to diffuse and discourage that kind of behavior immediately |
| 05:00.48 | bryjen | Freuds ? |
| 05:00.55 | DTRemenak | Frauds |
| 05:00.56 | Chikorita | an ya bans cuz sum1 shot whoever an made dem upset so dey start a ban vote |
| 05:01.37 | learner | hrm.. i'm really liking /poll [command] ... |
| 05:01.39 | Chikorita | how bout bans on peeple dat abuse da vote ban ? LoL j/k |
| 05:01.46 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:01.59 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.02 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.08 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.09 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.39 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:03.34 | Chikorita | */poll votes no kick learner* |
| 05:03.44 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:03.52 | Chikorita | hmm |
| 05:03.57 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.03 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.06 | Chikorita | dat might b good options 2 |
| 05:04.10 | learner | uh oh.. |
| 05:04.11 | Chikorita | lol bryjen |
| 05:04.20 | learner | yes .. that could get complicated.. |
| 05:04.21 | Chikorita | poll world peace :) |
| 05:04.33 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:04.49 | Chikorita | ooH |
| 05:04.54 | Chikorita | poll map change |
| 05:04.59 | DTRemenak | Oooh |
| 05:05.09 | Chikorita | instead of superkill |
| 05:05.13 | bryjen | map/world whateva |
| 05:05.14 | DTRemenak | but maps would have to be in an, er, consistent place for that to work |
| 05:05.27 | DTRemenak | -mapdir commandline option? |
| 05:06.13 | DTRemenak | bryjen: it's not like BZFlag is already bloatware ;) |
| 05:06.19 | bryjen | hairy explosion. gnasty. |
| 05:07.28 | DTRemenak | lol |
| 05:08.22 | DTRemenak | whether it's /poll or overloading /ban, others will follow the example |
| 05:08.35 | DTRemenak | overload /flag * anyone? |
| 05:08.46 | DTRemenak | or /poll flag *? |
| 05:09.01 | bryjen | eh. /poll lends itself to more uses. /ban doesn't really |
| 05:09.15 | DTRemenak | other commands can be overloaded too bryjen |
| 05:09.29 | DTRemenak | It's all a matter of precident |
| 05:09.50 | bryjen | hmmm. kill -CONT learner ? |
| 05:09.59 | learner | drat -- i really do like /poll, but i'm not sure i like the idea of /poll * |
| 05:10.09 | bryjen | Heh. that worked. |
| 05:10.23 | DTRemenak | learner: do what you like; either way it'll expand/explode/whatever |
| 05:10.39 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:10.44 | learner | exactly |
| 05:10.49 | DTRemenak | (and bzfs could use some modularization) |
| 05:10.58 | learner | if it's not as simple/modular -- it's a barrier |
| 05:11.12 | DTRemenak | But still a precident |
| 05:11.36 | DTRemenak | and then after four or five commands are overloaded, someone will come up with a brilliant idea ... why not make a /poll command? |
| 05:11.43 | DTRemenak | better to do it now |
| 05:11.47 | learner | well, then /poll would be the way to go, then |
| 05:11.49 | learner | ;) |
| 05:11.52 | learner | good point |
| 05:11.58 | DTRemenak | than spaghettify the code and make ppl clean it later |
| 05:12.12 | bryjen | Isn't this whole thing about stopping people from doing bad things ;) and that you can't really |
| 05:12.16 | learner | oh, I'll do that easily enough during the implementation process |
| 05:12.21 | learner | mmmm.. spaghetti |
| 05:12.24 | DTRemenak | lol |
| 05:12.33 | bryjen | Meat-tuh-balls! |
| 05:13.06 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:13.14 | learner | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:13.25 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:13.54 | learner | okay gents and chikorita |
| 05:13.58 | learner | it's bedtime for me |
| 05:14.04 | DTRemenak | ya, me too |
| 05:14.09 | learner | thanks for the advice and direction/ideas |
| 05:14.43 | Chikorita | gnite learner |
| 05:14.51 | DTRemenak | sheesh...I've got classes at 6:30 in the morning. Gotta get used to this again |
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| 05:15.21 | bryjen | g'nite john boy. |
| 05:15.44 | Chikorita | */vote if i should go to sleep too* |
| 05:17.42 | Chikorita | i vote "yes" |
| 05:17.46 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 05:17.50 | Chikorita | -.- |
| 05:17.51 | Chikorita | zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 05:17.54 | Chikorita | nite all |
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| 05:47.32 | aba | dmp |
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| 11:27.03 | rooter | i hate having to make up early... it's much better to do it late in the day after much fighting |
| 11:27.04 | learner | pffft |
| 11:27.19 | dheckaman | LOL |
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| 16:47.10 | patlabor221 | who is is REALLLY REALLY smart? |
| 16:47.13 | patlabor221 | :) |
| 16:48.07 | BagsAtWork | i dont know, do you |
| 16:48.40 | patlabor221 | well smart in the ways of sed and cut and stuff like that |
| 16:49.20 | patlabor221 | I need to turn Mon Aug 18 09:56:09 PDT 2003 into 180956092003 |
| 16:49.38 | BagsAtWork | has to be sed, eh |
| 16:50.41 | BagsAtWork | the hard part is the reversal of positions |
| 16:51.07 | patlabor221 | what reversal? |
| 16:51.23 | patlabor221 | well it can be any command line func |
| 16:51.29 | patlabor221 | it's called from a shell script |
| 16:51.40 | JBDiGriz | How about a quick c program which can do it for you? |
| 16:51.44 | BagsAtWork | .....oy, i thought the date was in there |
| 16:51.50 | BagsAtWork | aug and monday |
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| 16:51.58 | patlabor221 | naw don't need those |
| 16:52.13 | patlabor221 | tho it would be cool if it could turn aug into 08 |
| 16:52.33 | BagsAtWork | it would be multiple seds |
| 16:52.35 | JBDiGriz | How are you getting the date in your shell script? |
| 16:53.41 | patlabor221 | the script is making it |
| 16:53.45 | patlabor221 | it's the blog script |
| 16:55.48 | JBDiGriz | Is it the current date? |
| 16:56.17 | JBDiGriz | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:57.58 | patlabor221 | it's the date that the blog entry was made at, so not quite |
| 16:58.05 | [dmp] | patlabor221: is the input. only the string date/time string, or is there other stuff too? |
| 16:58.07 | patlabor221 | and I don't want to mod the script |
| 16:58.33 | patlabor221 | I'm trying to take the blog date and turn it into an ID to pass to a CGI that will do site comments |
| 16:58.46 | patlabor221 | I'll just make a C app the template can call |
| 17:08.55 | [dmp] | output format is; DayHourMinSecYear ? |
| 17:09.29 | BagsAtWork | sed s/^........// and sed s/" "//g and sed s/":"//g and s/PDT// ........assuming you can find that line and run this substitutions on it |
| 17:09.43 | BagsAtWork | s/this/these |
| 17:10.45 | BagsAtWork | but my preference would be to head to python....hahah, |
| 17:14.43 | patlabor221 | wlw that looks funky, but I'll try it :) |
| 17:15.30 | [dmp] | date |perl -e 'while(<STDIN>){if($_=~/(\w{3})\s(\w{3})\s(\d+)\s(\d+):(\d+):(\d+)\s(\S+)\s(\d{4})/g){printf("%.2d%.2d%.2d%.2d%.4d", $3,$4,$5,$6,$8);}}' |
| 17:15.35 | [dmp] | :-) |
| 17:15.56 | patlabor221 | wow thats even longer :) |
| 17:16.01 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 17:16.16 | [dmp] | ah, need to change it, so it prints not-matched stuff.. darn :-) |
| 17:19.15 | BagsAtWork | sed is a pain to read if you are not using the syntax day to day..........the short of it is....... |
| 17:19.40 | BagsAtWork | ^ - find first character |
| 17:19.49 | BagsAtWork | . - match any character |
| 17:19.53 | patlabor221 | hmm I wonder if I could do it java on the client side |
| 17:20.11 | BagsAtWork | java......probably |
| 17:20.35 | BagsAtWork | really somthing like dmp would be faster and easier |
| 17:20.59 | BagsAtWork | the sed stuff is four sucessive commands |
| 17:21.19 | BagsAtWork | and in two weeks you will have to decode it again...hahah |
| 17:23.45 | BagsAtWork | thats why i like python......easy to read the second time around |
| 17:23.48 | patlabor221 | hmm how bout just calling a perl or pyton script that does the conversion, would that work? |
| 17:24.55 | BagsAtWork | depends, i am not sure what you are actually dealing with as far as input(blog ignorant).......but a python script could identify the line you need and modify it any way you want |
| 17:25.46 | BagsAtWork | in dmp's case he is piping the date output directly through perl.....you could do the same with python i believe |
| 17:27.12 | BagsAtWork | hmmm, not on the tip of my mind either |
| 17:27.45 | [dmp] | i think its $' .. or something silly. :) |
| 17:28.39 | patlabor221 | I'm just thinking of puting all that perl/python code into a script to make my templates cleaner |
| 17:28.49 | BagsAtWork | n /G |
| 17:29.16 | BagsAtWork | n /G is the previous m//g left off |
| 17:29.33 | BagsAtWork | where the previous m/ /g left off |
| 17:31.09 | [dmp] | echo "I need to turn Mon Aug 18 09:56:09 PDT 2003 into 180956092003" |perl patformat2.pl output: I need to turn 180956092003 into 180956092003 :-) |
| 17:31.31 | patlabor221 | so with a C app that's being piped, stdin is the data coming in and then stdout is what is returned? |
| 17:33.02 | larsl | patlabor221: Yes. |
| 17:33.32 | larsl | Wouldn't strptime and strftime do that conversion quite easily? |
| 17:35.24 | patlabor221 | I don't know, hence why I am asking |
| 17:35.41 | patlabor221 | I am not familart with what I have avalble on *nix |
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| 17:36.14 | BagsAtWork | echo "Mon Aug 18 09:56:09 PDT 2003" | sed s/^........// | sed s/":"//g | sed s/" "//g | sed s/PDT// |
| 17:36.25 | larsl | I think that's what they are for. strptime takes a string and builds a tm struct, strftime takes a tm struct and returns a string in the wanted format. |
| 17:37.03 | BagsAtWork | never used those...... |
| 17:37.24 | BagsAtWork | i am a piping mad man...........hahahahah |
| 17:39.20 | patlabor221 | if I made a simple cpp file how do I compile it? |
| 17:39.28 | patlabor221 | just make my.cpp my ? |
| 17:39.49 | larsl | That might work depending on your 'make' version. |
| 17:39.56 | larsl | g++ -o my my.cpp would be safer. |
| 17:42.02 | patlabor221 | http://www.jeffm.bakadigital.com/date2id.cpp |
| 17:42.05 | patlabor221 | hmm that just locks up |
| 17:43.29 | larsl | www.d.kth.se/~d00-llu/test.c |
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| 17:43.41 | larsl | That almost works, but for some reason it thinks that the year is 1900. |
| 17:43.42 | larsl | =P |
| 17:44.11 | patlabor221 | well mine should work |
| 17:45.22 | patlabor221 | but it just sits tehre |
| 17:46.11 | larsl | It works for me (it prints, but I don't know if it's correct). |
| 17:46.26 | larsl | Mon Aug 18 09:56:09 PDT 2003 -> 13423211395692003 |
| 17:46.26 | patlabor221 | what does it print? |
| 17:46.39 | [dmp] | 13? |
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| 17:46.59 | [dmp] | Whee, my regex works. it was $` and $' :-) |
| 17:47.04 | patlabor221 | ohh I messed up |
| 17:48.36 | patlabor221 | mine dosn't print anyting |
| 17:48.42 | larsl | It does for me. |
| 17:49.17 | patlabor221 | hmm |
| 17:49.29 | larsl | How are you getting the data in? Just typing it manually? |
| 17:49.32 | patlabor221 | well I just locked up my terminal :) |
| 17:49.36 | larsl | (That's what I do) |
| 17:49.44 | patlabor221 | yeah, paste into the console |
| 17:50.20 | larsl | [ll@gnorf ll]$ date2id |
| 17:50.21 | larsl | Mon Aug 18 09:56:09 PDT 2003 |
| 17:50.26 | larsl | 13423211395692003 |
| 17:51.06 | patlabor221 | naw it's not working |
| 17:51.14 | patlabor221 | none of that datea is right |
| 17:51.26 | patlabor221 | should be 180956092003 |
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| 17:52.34 | larsl | Why are you parsing the day as a string? |
| 17:53.27 | patlabor221 | that was my mistake |
| 17:53.29 | patlabor221 | I changed that |
| 17:53.31 | larsl | [ll@gnorf ll]$ date2id |
| 17:53.32 | larsl | Mon Aug 18 09:56:09 PDT 2003 |
| 17:53.37 | larsl | 180956092003 |
| 17:53.38 | patlabor221 | mine locks on the scanf |
| 17:53.47 | patlabor221 | never seems to end |
| 17:54.08 | patlabor221 | damn you :) |
| 17:54.30 | larsl | You need to replace some %d with %02d too, but that doesn't affect the scanf. |
| 17:54.32 | larsl | Odd. |
| 17:54.52 | patlabor221 | it's like its waiting for more input |
| 17:55.01 | larsl | After you've hit enter? |
| 17:55.25 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 17:56.05 | patlabor221 | ./date2id Mon Aug 18 09:56:09 PDT 2003 |
| 17:56.12 | larsl | Ah, that's not stdin. |
| 17:56.16 | larsl | That's the command line. |
| 17:56.16 | patlabor221 | oh |
| 17:56.21 | patlabor221 | opps :) |
| 17:56.30 | larsl | stdin is what you type while the program is running. |
| 17:56.42 | patlabor221 | opps :) |
| 17:56.54 | patlabor221 | well lets see if I can get that sucker to pipe then :) |
| 18:01.39 | patlabor221 | it may be if this dosn't work :) |
| 18:03.25 | [dmp] | can one line contains more than one time/date strings? |
| 18:04.06 | patlabor221 | nope |
| 18:04.58 | patlabor221 | it's just to convert a datetime into an id |
| 18:05.52 | [dmp] | url: http://daisy.baat.dk/date2ip.pl.txt |
| 18:06.16 | [dmp] | Like you didnt know, it was a url :-) |
| 18:07.01 | patlabor221 | thanks |
| 18:38.32 | snyke | hm |
| 18:38.35 | snyke | Tim? |
| 18:54.54 | david_v | did anyone here see the latest about SCO's "evidence" ? :) |
| 18:55.31 | TimRiker | snyke: sup? |
| 18:55.42 | snyke | qry |
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| 19:07.53 | Chikorita | :| |
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| 19:33.29 | BagsAtWork | does anybody here live in the CT/MA/V/NH/RI area? |
| 19:34.53 | BagsAtWork | If so, I suggest you pay particular attention to the developments surrounding NorthEast Utilities and its subsidiaries. |
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| 19:52.16 | patlabor221 | there we go, bzbb is back up now. |
| 19:55.04 | patlabor221 | there goes my bid for 100 days of uptime tho :( |
| 19:55.21 | bzgirl | 65 wasnt bad |
| 19:55.31 | patlabor221 | yeah |
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| 20:09.17 | nilfilter | howdy |
| 20:09.33 | groggy | howdy |
| 20:11.44 | nilfilter | Hey I need a little help with interpreting my server's log file: "tank too fast: 37.1234, allowed: 26.1233". What exactly does that mean? |
| 20:12.32 | groggy | if you see a _lot_ of those, there is either 1) a bug, 2) a cheat, or 3) consistent lag issues |
| 20:12.53 | groggy | usually a mix of 1 (ala timing) and 3 (lag) |
| 20:13.09 | nilfilter | groggy, Thanks, that leaves room for speculation though ;) |
| 20:13.15 | Chestal | nil: in this case some probably just dropped a high speed flag |
| 20:13.32 | Chestal | nil: was it followed by a kick? Or did it say something like (dead or vz!=0)? |
| 20:14.29 | nilfilter | Chestal, yep, (dead or vz!=0) |
| 20:14.47 | Chestal | nilfilter: then probably someone with high speed flag got killed |
| 20:15.01 | groggy | ches: are the ClientState's in bzfs.cxx (noexist, inlimbo, dead, and live) all exclusive? |
| 20:15.06 | nilfilter | Ahh ok, thanks a million Chestal & groggy |
| 20:15.46 | Chestal | nil: that's normal, this server-side anti-cheat check is only a first step |
| 20:15.53 | Chestal | groggy: yes |
| 20:16.14 | groggy | should I bother checking if (playerdead || playeralive) to see if a player is "in the game" |
| 20:16.45 | groggy | or is there another way to do that |
| 20:16.51 | Chestal | most of the current checks are done via .state > PlayerInLimbo |
| 20:17.08 | groggy | ah, which catchs alive or dead |
| 20:17.13 | groggy | okay |
| 20:18.20 | nilfilter | Using the log file, how could I tell *for sure* that someone's cheating? |
| 20:19.42 | Chestal | generally you can't |
| 20:20.09 | Chestal | when you see speed values of >37.5+epsilon, it's cheating |
| 20:20.17 | Chestal | or >25+epsilon when there are no highspeed flags |
| 20:20.45 | Chestal | server has a few simpel checks and autokicks the palyers when it is quite sure that it's cheating |
| 20:22.41 | nilfilter | Chestal, ok, thanks. It's over 33 megs now, I'm going to grep a little ;) |
| 20:28.21 | groggy | hmmm.. |
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| 20:28.42 | groggy | bzfs doesn't seem to have a container for server objects |
| 20:29.01 | groggy | everythings either a global or included in a commandlineoption struct |
| 20:29.09 | groggy | am I missing something? |
| 20:30.12 | groggy | hmm.. maybe that's what this funky BZDB thingy is :) |
| 20:30.25 | Chestal | bzfs needs to be modularized, only some of the new features have been extracted so far |
| 20:30.53 | groggy | learner knows this ;-) |
| 20:31.41 | bryjen | ~seen captain_proton |
| 20:31.43 | | captain_proton <~blardebla@0-1pool71-178.nas26.thornton1.co.us.da.qwest.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 18h 18m 30s ago, saying: 'but you're right, stiff'. |
| 20:32.33 | groggy | is the state database a singleton/ |
| 20:32.40 | nilfilter | Cheers |
| 20:32.43 | *** part/#bzflag nilfilter (~rude@pD9E67FE0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:32.46 | groggy | s/\//\?/ |
| 20:33.16 | groggy | yep, never mind |
| 20:34.24 | bryjen | gah. |
| 20:38.42 | groggy | hehe |
| 20:41.30 | larsl | Documentation? =) |
| 20:42.43 | bryjen | a bit of commentery in StateDatabase.h |
| 20:42.58 | groggy | that's what I'm reading |
| 20:43.17 | groggy | there's chatter on the methods, but nothing on what the class as a whole is supposed to be doing, how to use it, etc |
| 20:43.37 | bryjen | Ah |
| 20:44.36 | dheckaman | whoops |
| 20:45.08 | CIA | 03brlcad * 12bzflag/include (StateDatabase.h): doxygenified the existing documentation |
| 20:45.33 | bryjen | did you push the big red button again? ;) |
| 20:48.28 | dheckaman | nooo |
| 20:48.43 | dheckaman | I just "logged" out |
| 20:49.05 | dheckaman | cept it defaulted to "shutdown" |
| 20:49.19 | dheckaman | ah well, only 3 people where connected |
| 20:49.31 | groggy | Mmm.. |
| 20:49.53 | groggy | nifty |
| 20:50.54 | Chestal | once you have fully grasped it, explain it to me :-) |
| 20:51.18 | protonic-work | hehe |
| 20:52.45 | protonic-work | so...hows life everyone? |
| 20:53.04 | enlightened | i hate waking up early |
| 20:53.18 | Nidhoggr | hi cap. things are mostly okay. second day on the new job. |
| 20:56.04 | patlabor221 | what header has strlen in it? |
| 20:56.52 | enlightened | string.h |
| 21:07.00 | *** part/#bzflag drinian (~drinian@pcp153139pcs.hamntn01.nj.comcast.net) |
| 21:07.51 | enlightened | "tree falling in the woods, tree falling in the woods, tree... Ooooooooo..." |
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| 21:28.01 | Chestal | anyone know where to best set env vars in KDE? Sepcifically LANG or LC_CTYPE |
| 21:30.23 | enlightened | the default chat messages are "N" and "M", and "I" to enter the game -- it's case sensitive! |
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| 21:35.58 | Carnage | match anyone? |
| 22:20.37 | TimRiker | "here is my new game / i wish you would like it" |
| 22:26.07 | larsl | ~bzflist |
| 22:26.25 | larsl | Hm. I can't get to the server list in bzflag. |
| 22:28.03 | TimRiker | http://list.bzflag.org:5156/ works for me in a browser. |
| 22:28.33 | larsl | It worked when I added -list default. My settings must have changed somehow. |
| 22:36.56 | JBDiGriz | Which machine needs a new video card? |
| 22:38.00 | enlightened | I'm adding a second card for dual head here at home |
| 22:38.35 | JBDiGriz | 2 23" cinema displays I presume? |
| 22:38.49 | JBDiGriz | or are you getting the big ones? ;-) |
| 22:38.53 | patlabor221 | how much are mac cards runnin now? |
| 22:40.11 | enlightened | jb: hehe, I wish -- that's only at work ;) |
| 22:42.22 | patlabor221 | I need to find a Late model G4 case |
| 22:42.31 | patlabor221 | the one that is "backwards" |
| 22:43.12 | enlightened | eh? backwards? |
| 22:43.45 | patlabor221 | reember when they came out with the new G4 case last year? it had the cards and powersupply on the other side of the board from the older ones |
| 22:45.39 | patlabor221 | oh and to everyone who helped me with my CGI date thingy, thanks, it worked :) |
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| 23:15.43 | Chikorita | lol |
| 23:16.02 | JBDiGriz | careful Chikorita, I might poke back! |
| 23:16.17 | Chikorita | {s Bjork - Its Oh so Quiet |
| 23:18.15 | Chikorita | poke mee i dare ya |
| 23:18.27 | Chikorita | >;) |
| 23:18.34 | JBDiGriz | Would you enjoy a good poke? |
| 23:18.51 | enlightened | lol |
| 23:18.59 | Chikorita | no |
| 23:19.34 | Chikorita | wel , depends.. |
| 23:19.38 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 23:19.52 | enlightened | *ahem* |
| 23:20.16 | bryjen | Is anybody doing builds of the CVS snapshots for Linux? or Mac? |
| 23:21.07 | JBDiGriz | learner and I are doing builds for Mac, but we haven't posted anything yet. Are there testers who need it? |
| 23:21.50 | bryjen | Donno. was just going to include urls in a post if they existed |
| 23:22.56 | enlightened | last time i tried a binary, jb, i had more absolute path issues -- I'm not sure what I keep doing wrong |
| 23:23.35 | JBDiGriz | I can go through the procedure for fixing those with you tonight. |
| 23:24.31 | enlightened | i don't see an absolute path in the project file anymore, but if I transfer the app it breaks |
| 23:25.24 | enlightened | has anyone here added a /command to bzfs? |
| 23:31.19 | bryjen | http://bzbb.bakadigital.com/viewtopic.php?p=11241#11241 |
| 23:32.07 | Chikorita | ~d |
| 23:32.17 | larsl | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.32 | Chikorita | bbl |
| 23:32.37 | enlightened | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.43 | enlightened | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.43 | larsl | I added some stuff in g2. |
| 23:33.46 | enlightened | I've added sections to bzfs.cxx and Permissinos.cxx |
| 23:33.55 | larsl | Not with the new permission system. |
| 23:34.01 | enlightened | but no luck -- [SERVER] -> unknwon command |
| 23:34.27 | larsl | Run it through a debugger and see if it even touches your code. |
| 23:35.29 | bryjen | oooga |
| 23:35.47 | JBDiGriz | Who goosed bryjen? |
| 23:44.04 | enlightened | sweeet |
| 23:44.22 | enlightened | it was the dang hasPerm(t, ...) |
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| 23:57.34 | Chikorita | i am so happy! |
| 23:57.36 | Chikorita | :D |
| 23:57.53 | enlightened | :) |
| 23:57.56 | enlightened | what'd you do? |
| 23:58.07 | JBDiGriz | *ahem* |
| 23:58.25 | Chikorita | i jus got an email from greg |
| 23:58.38 | enlightened | lol, oh .. hehehe ;) |
| 23:58.44 | Chikorita | he iz in bolivia on vaction...i forgot he told mee all bout dat last month |
| 23:58.56 | enlightened | pfft! silly! |
| 23:59.28 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 23:59.33 | Chikorita | silly mee |
| 23:59.36 | Chikorita | :P |
| 23:59.44 | Chikorita | im glad he iz ok tho |