| 00:00.08 | learner | example url? |
| 00:00.11 | fiberchunks | no, just stupid curiosity |
| 00:00.13 | fiberchunks | one second |
| 00:00.30 | BoyOnAString | the lorium ipsum.... thing? |
| 00:00.44 | fiberchunks | that one, yeah |
| 00:01.40 | fiberchunks | jeez, irssi sucks for pasting and pulling website links |
| 00:01.42 | BoyOnAString | the doc guy says here that it's just allways been there |
| 00:01.49 | BoyOnAString | from the begining of time |
| 00:01.56 | BoyOnAString | it's posibly the one true god. |
| 00:02.08 | fiberchunks | I imagine quark express or some other layout tool used it originally (pagemaker?) |
| 00:02.17 | fiberchunks | it may very well be |
| 00:02.21 | BoyOnAString | no no, it's older then computers |
| 00:02.26 | BoyOnAString | I've seen sheets of it |
| 00:02.34 | BoyOnAString | like for printmakers |
| 00:02.35 | fiberchunks | papyrii? |
| 00:02.52 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 00:03.03 | BoyOnAString | your 32 sided die? you mean "rand()" :) |
| 00:03.23 | BoyOnAString | http://www.lipsum.com/ |
| 00:03.24 | fiberchunks | course, the funny thing is about that, is that it is missing a couple characters |
| 00:03.39 | BoyOnAString | it's random latun |
| 00:03.52 | fiberchunks | right, so it misses j and z |
| 00:04.36 | fiberchunks | oh, ic, not for typesetting, but for layout purposes you mean? |
| 00:04.42 | BoyOnAString | yeah |
| 00:05.21 | BoyOnAString | first I saw it was for laying out newspaper layouts |
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| 00:06.55 | patlabor221 | McClintock recalled having seen lorem ipsum in a book of early metal type samples, which commonly used extracts from the classics. "What I find remarkable," he told B&A, "is that this text has been the industry's standard dummy text ever since some printer in the 1500s took a galley of type and scrambled it to make a type specimen book; it has survived not only four centuries of letter-by-letter resetting but even the leap into electronic typesetting, es |
| 00:07.38 | bryjen | further down, Lipsum comes from sections 1.10.32 and 1.10.33 of "de Finibus Bonorum et Malorum" |
| 00:08.42 | fiberchunks | see there, ask and ye shall receive (thanks pat) :) |
| 00:08.53 | fiberchunks | now I can get my silly distracted mind back to real work |
| 00:09.44 | fiberchunks | I think I'll be different, and use the entire text from the Odyssey to lay things out :) |
| 00:11.01 | fiberchunks | http://www.uoregon.edu/~joelja/odyssey.html |
| 00:19.51 | patlabor221 | art of war |
| 00:20.51 | fiberchunks | oooo, that's a good one too |
| 00:22.29 | patlabor221 | one of my D&D games had an NPC with an enchanted pistol that had the entirely of the art of war micro etched onto the barel |
| 00:22.54 | fiberchunks | npc? |
| 00:22.58 | fiberchunks | and that is cool |
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| 00:23.02 | patlabor221 | Non Player Character |
| 00:23.06 | fiberchunks | ah |
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| 00:23.31 | patlabor221 | well time to go home |
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| 00:47.15 | Spiff | Hey all. :-) |
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| 00:55.16 | SGI | hi |
| 00:55.31 | SGI | hi spiff no new maps coming |
| 00:57.10 | Spiff | I'll get to it. ;) |
| 00:57.11 | Spiff | Hehehe. |
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| 01:05.19 | Seven_up | Hi learner |
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| 01:11.06 | Seven_up | does port 17200 ring bell to anyone?? |
| 01:13.27 | Tupone | The first port used by the client |
| 01:14.41 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (7 files): mantain online info about all tanks being bots or human driven |
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| 01:24.13 | tuggy | hi |
| 01:24.36 | tuggy | errm.. i dont get any sound at all... what can be causing this? |
| 01:25.00 | fiberchunks | another sound app sucking the resource from the machine |
| 01:25.10 | tuggy | nop, everything is stopped... |
| 01:25.20 | tuggy | what does bzflag use to play sounds? |
| 01:25.22 | fiberchunks | volume being turned down, or muted (both in bz and/or in the main volume control) |
| 01:25.33 | fiberchunks | /dev/dsp in the *nix world, not sure bout windows |
| 01:25.47 | tuggy | the sound option in bzflag is "Unavailable" |
| 01:25.51 | tuggy | or something like that.. |
| 01:26.14 | fiberchunks | mmm, in *nix that usually means that something else is hogging /dev/dsp -- what platform are you on? |
| 01:26.55 | tuggy | i just finished installing debian in this pc |
| 01:27.08 | tuggy | i installed it before and it worked |
| 01:27.25 | fiberchunks | start bzflag from the command line, and see if it says '/dev/dsp unavailable' |
| 01:27.34 | tuggy | 'k |
| 01:27.57 | tuggy | no |
| 01:28.13 | fiberchunks | really -- what WM are you using? |
| 01:28.24 | fiberchunks | and what audio driver (i.e. alsa or OSS) |
| 01:28.30 | tuggy | gnome |
| 01:28.34 | tuggy | i know it starts esd |
| 01:28.42 | fiberchunks | is esd running? |
| 01:28.48 | tuggy | probably.. |
| 01:28.52 | tuggy | :) |
| 01:28.55 | fiberchunks | --although that shouldn't be a problem -- if it is, kill it |
| 01:28.57 | fiberchunks | and try again |
| 01:29.06 | fiberchunks | killall -9 esd |
| 01:29.16 | tuggy | no, not running |
| 01:29.23 | tuggy | :/ |
| 01:29.47 | fiberchunks | no other sound apps open though, eh? |
| 01:29.57 | fiberchunks | xmms, liteamp, arts, anything like that? |
| 01:30.02 | tuggy | now i have xmms |
| 01:30.07 | tuggy | but it wasnt before |
| 01:30.18 | fiberchunks | kill xmms |
| 01:30.21 | tuggy | so thats no it |
| 01:30.40 | tuggy | dont be so violent, i can close it without killing ;) |
| 01:30.43 | fiberchunks | yes, but if you have it now, I assure you I can't help you, cause xmms will hog /dev/dsp :) |
| 01:30.54 | fiberchunks | I like killing, sense of empowerment :) |
| 01:31.33 | tuggy | lol ok, done |
| 01:32.11 | tuggy | but even with xmms bzflag didnt say it couldnt open /dev/dsp |
| 01:32.28 | fiberchunks | wild -- what version of bz? |
| 01:32.42 | tuggy | the latest |
| 01:33.00 | tuggy | 1.7g2 |
| 01:33.03 | Tupone | Have you checked the volume, on Option :) |
| 01:33.52 | tuggy | i cant |
| 01:33.55 | tuggy | Unavailable |
| 01:33.59 | tuggy | :/ |
| 01:35.07 | tuggy | ah |
| 01:35.10 | tuggy | working now |
| 01:35.11 | tuggy | :) |
| 01:35.16 | tuggy | -g- i'm so stupid |
| 01:35.32 | fiberchunks | why -- what'd you do |
| 01:35.34 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 01:35.48 | tuggy | wrong permissions in /dev/dsp |
| 01:35.54 | tuggy | %) |
| 01:35.56 | fiberchunks | ah, that'd do it too :) |
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| 01:39.50 | tuggy | ahhh much better :D |
| 01:40.17 | fiberchunks | jeez, mp3's I just ripped are crap :\ wonder if I can convert em to ogg |
| 01:41.16 | tuggy | you can... |
| 01:41.23 | fiberchunks | argh, nm, stupid ripper turned em into ogg files with an .mp3 format (rather stupid ripper user) :) |
| 01:41.23 | tuggy | but the quality wont get better |
| 01:41.31 | tuggy | lol |
| 01:42.20 | fiberchunks | ok, now, how bout a quick and dirty shell script for taking <filename[1-N]>.mp3 and changing it to <filename[1-N]>.ogg |
| 01:43.21 | bryjen | for FILE in *.mp3 ; do mv $FILE `basename ~FILE .mp3'.ogg ; done |
| 01:43.49 | fiberchunks | is that 2 backticks around basename ... .mp3 ? |
| 01:43.57 | fiberchunks | or backtick apostrophe |
| 01:44.16 | bryjen | single thingy on the key with the ~ to the left of the 1 |
| 01:44.24 | fiberchunks | cool |
| 01:45.05 | bryjen | no space between the closing tick and the .ogg |
| 01:45.17 | fiberchunks | k |
| 01:45.43 | fiberchunks | I assume no space between ~FILE.mp3 as well? |
| 01:45.59 | bryjen | huh? |
| 01:46.06 | fiberchunks | nm |
| 01:46.26 | bryjen | eep wrong char there |
| 01:46.35 | fiberchunks | well, damn, that just wiped them out :) |
| 01:46.41 | bryjen | the ~FILE shoud be $FILE |
| 01:46.50 | bryjen | :( |
| 01:46.57 | fiberchunks | yup |
| 01:47.08 | fiberchunks | ah well, shoulda backed them up first -- not your fault |
| 01:47.14 | Patlabor221 | ren *.mp3 *.ogg won't work? |
| 01:47.18 | bryjen | how the heck did i get ~ for $ |
| 01:47.29 | bryjen | ren ? |
| 01:47.34 | bryjen | where's stimpy? |
| 01:47.42 | Patlabor221 | rename |
| 01:47.50 | fiberchunks | good point, dunno |
| 01:48.02 | learner | Hi, Seven_up |
| 01:48.16 | fiberchunks | no |
| 01:48.17 | Patlabor221 | tht's how I'd try it under weendowz |
| 01:48.25 | tuggy | ren doesnt exist |
| 01:49.03 | bryjen | heh. theres a rename command here. didn't know that. |
| 01:49.12 | bryjen | not sure if it'd work that way tho |
| 01:49.17 | fiberchunks | that worked fine, bryjen, once the $ was correct :) |
| 01:49.38 | Patlabor221 | wow, not something done easyer in windows? no, it can not be!!!! |
| 01:50.22 | Tupone | rename .mp3 .ogg *.htm !cool - never heard before |
| 01:50.26 | fiberchunks | lol, smart-ass :) |
| 01:50.39 | bryjen | hmmm. looks like rename .mp3 .ogg *.mp3 |
| 01:50.49 | fiberchunks | ah, syntax was goofy |
| 01:50.56 | fiberchunks | hence the beauty of man :\ |
| 01:51.01 | Tupone | yeah my copy was bad |
| 01:51.03 | bryjen | Tupone's coping too much from the manual |
| 01:51.25 | Tupone | You just looking at me. bad :) |
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| 01:52.01 | learner | hi jolly |
| 01:52.09 | jolly | hey learner :) |
| 01:52.11 | fiberchunks | I would like it if you could actually type this: 'pardon me 'puter, but since I was a dumb-ass to begin with, could you be so kind as to rename all these here things .ogg instead of .mp3? Thank you' |
| 01:52.40 | bryjen | Sorry, Dave, I can't do that right now. |
| 01:52.42 | fiberchunks | at which the computer would snicker and mock me, and delete them |
| 01:53.22 | bryjen | or email the RIAA and eat your CD |
| 01:53.26 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 01:54.11 | bryjen | Honest occifer, I've paid for these songs, the CD is here somewhere! |
| 01:54.48 | Seven_up | Hey learner :) still have weird issues. |
| 01:55.23 | bryjen | heh. the whole copying thing is dubious. assaulting a policeman is likely to be harder to wiggle out of. ;) |
| 01:56.00 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 01:56.32 | fiberchunks | no! that's not a sharpie drawing of black sabbaths album cover, it's just crap art -- talk to their graphic designers, not me ;) |
| 01:58.06 | fiberchunks | I have a whole bunch more respect for people who are able to get their colors to look harmonious now after trying to do it myself (thank ghod for levels of grey :) ) |
| 01:59.10 | fiberchunks | I also wish there were some way to display margins when doing css layout :\ |
| 01:59.53 | learner | Seven_up: explain? |
| 02:02.03 | Seven_up | I was able to get on the server but only every other tank was visable to everyother tank...is that confusing?? |
| 02:02.37 | Seven_up | The rogue could only see the red, the red could only see the blue etc. |
| 02:03.28 | Seven_up | and nobody could shot anybody unless they got in front of you and said shot |
| 02:04.31 | Seven_up | Im starting over from scratch and using only default ports for the server, to see what happens |
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| 02:05.49 | learner | hrmm.. that's a good idea |
| 02:06.09 | Seven_up | lol..I hope so! |
| 02:07.13 | Seven_up | according to what I think I now know....5155,5156,17200..Sound right?? |
| 02:08.06 | learner | owww.. I'm in so much pain -- and it's not even tomorrow yet |
| 02:08.07 | fiberchunks | I've always set up a server to use ports 17200-172xx (where xx is the max number of players allowed plus a couple), dunno if that still applies though |
| 02:08.24 | learner | 17200?? |
| 02:08.32 | fiberchunks | yah |
| 02:08.46 | Seven_up | hmmm |
| 02:08.48 | fiberchunks | that's what I was always told -- clients start at 17200 |
| 02:08.51 | bryjen | I think thats the source port the client uses for UDP |
| 02:09.03 | learner | ah, okay -- perhaps that was the problem |
| 02:09.37 | Seven_up | so 17200 - 17210 for 10 players right? |
| 02:09.52 | fiberchunks | that's what I've done in the past and it always worked nicely, yes |
| 02:09.53 | learner | yep |
| 02:10.10 | Seven_up | I'll try it thanks |
| 02:11.35 | bryjen | looking at a quick netstat: inbound and outbound tcp 5155 and 5156. inbound udp to 5155 |
| 02:11.57 | fiberchunks | oh, it must've changed then |
| 02:12.07 | learner | that's what I was seeing tcp on 5156 even when server is on another port |
| 02:12.25 | bryjen | that's -pr (tcp reconnect port) in g2 |
| 02:12.47 | bryjen | the outbound udp probly goes to 172xx on the client |
| 02:13.11 | learner | so setting up a firewall -- he'll still need to allow outbound to 172XX |
| 02:14.43 | bryjen | lemme fire up a client and see what it does |
| 02:15.12 | bryjen | ok, the client's listening for udp on 17200 |
| 02:16.25 | bryjen | i don't know if that number changes for anything |
| 02:16.38 | bryjen | maybe if that port's already in use |
| 02:22.33 | bryjen | back to the fracas |
| 02:25.22 | Seven_up | Ok got anyone willing to try? |
| 02:25.50 | Seven_up | spanky.game-server.cc The Yard |
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| 02:50.44 | Seven_up | Thanks again learner, and fiber, its working fine now!! |
| 02:51.35 | fiberchunks | coolio :) |
| 02:52.08 | Seven_up | Also learner I think I will drop the player count..what do you think one of each?? |
| 02:52.37 | learner | sure, or drop a couple teams and allow maybe three pairs |
| 02:52.41 | fiberchunks | if you're going to do that, I suggest making them all rogues -- colors for single players make no sense |
| 02:53.39 | fiberchunks | even though you didn't ask me :) |
| 02:53.39 | Seven_up | Ok (smacks self in head) that makes sense :) |
| 02:54.32 | Seven_up | All input is good :) |
| 02:54.53 | fiberchunks | what does learner know anyway ;) |
| 02:55.12 | learner | pfff -- he's a blundering idiot |
| 02:55.18 | learner | trust me, I know |
| 02:55.29 | fiberchunks | with soreness too |
| 02:55.36 | learner | extremely |
| 02:55.45 | Seven_up | I can't go there he's been to big a help |
| 02:55.46 | fiberchunks | bike ride? |
| 02:56.01 | fiberchunks | bah, he's a thick skin that one |
| 02:57.49 | learner | waht I'm worried about is if I feel this sore NOW.. how am I gonna feel tomorrow when the muscles kick in |
| 02:58.16 | fiberchunks | well ... my take is: tomorrow's saturday, therefore it's drinking day anyway |
| 02:58.39 | learner | but .. but .. I'm outta beer |
| 02:59.02 | fiberchunks | vodka |
| 02:59.06 | learner | i have some good whisky and scotch, though.. |
| 02:59.12 | fiberchunks | there it is then |
| 02:59.12 | learner | and vodka :) |
| 03:00.51 | Seven_up | Couple weeks ago the wife and I hiked a local ski resort for charity then the wife decided she wanted to go on a 8 mile horse back ride. Neither of us has been on a horse in 20 years. |
| 03:00.53 | fiberchunks | urgh, /me is having a little bit of issue with relatively and absolutely positioned elements -- time to read .. for the 3rd time |
| 03:01.06 | fiberchunks | sore butt? |
| 03:01.07 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 03:01.15 | Seven_up | I spent the next day on my belly!! |
| 03:01.21 | fiberchunks | heh |
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| 03:04.01 | learner | I'd bet money that I won't barely be able to move tomorrow |
| 03:04.36 | fiberchunks | all the better for drinking...prepare the couch beforehand, with a gallon of OJ, and a quart of vodka, the remote, and some smokes (if so inclined) |
| 03:05.05 | fiberchunks | oh yeah, a glass helps too ;) |
| 03:05.25 | Seven_up | Sounds like the day after my vasectamy (sp) |
| 03:05.53 | fiberchunks | ? you got one? how much and how long did it take? |
| 03:05.55 | learner | yikes! |
| 03:06.38 | fiberchunks | scared proton away even :) |
| 03:07.26 | learner | Ooo.. SG1 is on -- missed it earlier |
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| 03:09.15 | SGI | hello |
| 03:09.24 | fiberchunks | 'lo |
| 03:09.47 | learner | howdy sgi |
| 03:13.04 | Seven_up | Sorry, kids's comp just went kaput |
| 03:14.58 | learner | anyone in here know the particulars of the TimeKeeper? |
| 03:15.08 | Seven_up | I can't remember what it cost, but the first 3 days were the bad ones, but even then it was only like I had pulled every mucsel in my stomach |
| 03:15.23 | fiberchunks | is it an outpatient thing? |
| 03:15.40 | fiberchunks | just a slice snip stitch sort of thing? |
| 03:15.46 | fiberchunks | (to put it crudely) |
| 03:16.51 | Seven_up | About 15 min. in the doctors office. snip, burn, stitch actually. And the local was wearing off as we were pulling out of the parking lot |
| 03:17.52 | Seven_up | My wife had had her tubes tied 5 years, then called me with one night and said guess what! |
| 03:17.59 | fiberchunks | wow. didn't realize it was that short -- oh yeah -- is there any possibility of reversal? I've heard there is |
| 03:18.09 | fiberchunks | ha, whoopsy :) |
| 03:18.27 | fiberchunks | I don't mean accidental reversal, I mean purposeful reversal, btw |
| 03:18.41 | Seven_up | I believe there is but its pretty expensive from what I hear |
| 03:18.56 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 03:19.22 | Seven_up | Lets put it this way if your not sure don't do it |
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| 03:20.45 | Seven_up | Thats a thought. |
| 03:21.36 | Seven_up | What would cause no detection of ANY drives? (kids comp) |
| 03:21.45 | fiberchunks | what OS? |
| 03:21.47 | Seven_up | LOL |
| 03:22.43 | Seven_up | dual boot win me and mandy 9.1, It doesn't even pick it up in bios |
| 03:22.59 | fiberchunks | drive failure, or cable failure perhaps |
| 03:23.11 | fiberchunks | power supply, most likely hardware related |
| 03:23.41 | Seven_up | I was hoping a long the lines of cable, but the drive is new so that may be it also |
| 03:23.49 | fiberchunks | check the cables first, then the power supply. and try plugging in one of the drives on a different machine |
| 03:24.03 | fiberchunks | what kind of drive, and who makes it? |
| 03:24.19 | Seven_up | Western Digatal |
| 03:24.34 | fiberchunks | oooo, it's probably not the drive then - they're pretty reliable |
| 03:24.53 | fiberchunks | esp if it's a new drive -- did you set the jumpers on it properly? (i.e. was the thing working before?) |
| 03:25.26 | fiberchunks | for cable select, or master/slave relationship (also, if master/slave is explicitly jumpered, then the position on the IDE cable _matters_ ) |
| 03:26.07 | fiberchunks | if one drive is set to cable select, then the other must be as well, iirc |
| 03:26.09 | learner | interesting how they are reintroducing Daniel to SG1 |
| 03:26.21 | Seven_up | Yea working fine for the last 2 weeks. I did set the jumpers correct I always check about 3 times :) |
| 03:27.36 | fiberchunks | hrm, then I would definitely suspect the IDE cables, or perhaps the power supply -- also, the mobo IDE controllers crap out -- so test the drives in a different machine, to eliminate them from the equation -- then you know it's either: 1) IDE controller (unlikely), 2) IDE cables (likely), or 3) power supply |
| 03:27.45 | Seven_up | I think I may have used a round IDE cable. Ive had bad luck with them before |
| 03:27.46 | fiberchunks | I can't really think of anything else though |
| 03:28.14 | SGI | push......the contact |
| 03:28.15 | fiberchunks | well, try a flat one -- if a round one isn't built right, then it'll crosstalk like a maniac and perhaps hose things up |
| 03:28.32 | SGI | and use flat |
| 03:28.34 | fiberchunks | also, are there 2 drives on the same cable? |
| 03:28.54 | fiberchunks | and if so, are the drives the same type (i.e. ATA 100 or whatever?) |
| 03:29.43 | fiberchunks | if they're not, you'll have to use the cable for the 'lowest common denominator drive' i.e. the slower one) difference is a 40-conductor cable versus an 80-conductor |
| 03:30.07 | Seven_up | I think hd and cd rom on 1 cable, and its not detecting the cd rom in bios either |
| 03:30.10 | SGI | single or dual |
| 03:30.25 | Seven_up | ? |
| 03:30.32 | fiberchunks | take the cdrom out of the loop, and try again, if no joy, then try a different cable |
| 03:31.26 | fiberchunks | also, in a setup like that, you want the cdrom on the 'outermost' connector of the IDE cable, and the hd on the innermost. Generally, it is a _bad_ idea to put a cdrom and HD on the same cable |
| 03:31.40 | fiberchunks | cause the HD will only operate as fast as the cdrom, iirc |
| 03:32.22 | SGI | is a 9 or 10 pin connector |
| 03:32.25 | Seven_up | So better would be run 2 cables?? |
| 03:32.43 | fiberchunks | indeed == put the cdrom cable on the secondary IDE controller, and the HD on the primary |
| 03:33.00 | Seven_up | 10-4 |
| 03:33.22 | SGI | because are different setup for the jumper |
| 03:33.27 | Seven_up | oops that wasn't an answer SGI |
| 03:33.34 | learner | pat: you around? |
| 03:33.58 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 03:33.59 | fiberchunks | SGI - a 9 or 10 pin connector? all IDE drives are 40 pin connectors |
| 03:33.59 | SGI | can be 10 pin and 4 are the power connection |
| 03:34.14 | SGI | for the jumper |
| 03:34.42 | SGI | there is two types one is with 9 and another 10 |
| 03:34.43 | fiberchunks | oh, the jumpers, I just follow the diagram on top the drive for master / slave or cable select |
| 03:35.12 | Seven_up | I think I confused the issue. Sorry SGI, I'll have to look |
| 03:35.59 | SGI | sorry my sgienglish |
| 03:36.00 | Seven_up | I never use cable select I always set them for what they are |
| 03:36.10 | fiberchunks | so do I -- eliminates confusion |
| 03:36.26 | SGI | check closely the pin for the jumper |
| 03:36.29 | fiberchunks | but bear in mind, that if you do that, that the position of the device on the cable makes a difference |
| 03:36.33 | SGI | if you see only 9 |
| 03:37.01 | SGI | you need two jumper |
| 03:37.12 | SGI | if is 10 you need only one |
| 03:37.41 | Seven_up | I set the hard drive as master and on the inner connector, cdrom as slave on the end |
| 03:37.54 | SGI | single with 9 jumper on 1-2 and 7-8 |
| 03:38.00 | fiberchunks | that's perfect -- now just remove the cdrom and put it on a different cable |
| 03:39.50 | Seven_up | Sounds good to me, Just trying to keep the inside neat and tidy :) |
| 03:40.26 | fiberchunks | I hear ya -- I've got all rounded stuff in my machine, but they are well shielded, and cost a pretty frickin penny |
| 03:40.38 | Seven_up | lol |
| 03:42.04 | Seven_up | By the way when I had my vas I did it on a long weekend, sat in the chair and the wife waited on me hand and foot |
| 03:42.16 | fiberchunks | what a tragedy ;) |
| 03:43.09 | Seven_up | If you think watching smoke rise from your comp is bad, think about it rising from down there! |
| 03:43.25 | fiberchunks | LOL |
| 03:43.46 | Seven_up | Is it suppose to do that doc??? |
| 03:44.46 | SGI | burning???? |
| 03:45.04 | fiberchunks | different topic SGI :) |
| 03:45.05 | SGI | no smoke from the pc |
| 03:45.43 | Seven_up | no pc is fine |
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| 03:49.09 | Seven_up | Here is what I do for a living http://home.centurytel.net/weaver6/images/truck.jpg |
| 03:49.46 | SGI | i dont see the pc |
| 03:50.23 | fiberchunks | ah, long haul trucker? |
| 03:51.08 | Seven_up | Just day runs don't do the long haul. And no I didn't do that to your car |
| 03:51.20 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 03:51.28 | fiberchunks | your truck's not green |
| 03:51.41 | Seven_up | whew |
| 03:52.06 | fiberchunks | you own, or lease? |
| 03:52.12 | fiberchunks | or work for someone else |
| 03:52.39 | Seven_up | Work for a local company hauling wood chips to a pulp mill |
| 03:52.46 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 03:52.54 | SGI | cat?? |
| 03:53.15 | fiberchunks | I've always wondered if I could handle long-haul -- but I'm not sure about the internet access ;) |
| 03:53.44 | fiberchunks | I hear there's quite good money to be made in it though (either day or long, better in long though) |
| 03:53.45 | Seven_up | But of course SGI :) 425 Cat |
| 03:54.19 | Seven_up | There is if you have no ties, nothing to go home for |
| 03:54.26 | SGI | only |
| 03:54.54 | fiberchunks | or you take the family on the road with you (I know a couple dudes local that do just that, but they own their own rigs) |
| 03:55.17 | SGI | is hard too |
| 03:55.44 | SGI | drive night and day..ice and rain |
| 03:55.56 | SGI | can be a song |
| 03:56.01 | Seven_up | That works great too, better if the spouse can drive also |
| 03:56.13 | fiberchunks | it is, that entire song, is called 'country' ;) |
| 03:56.16 | SGI | ...no my wife |
| 03:56.36 | SGI | i dont know any songs "country" |
| 03:56.50 | fiberchunks | it's a music joke |
| 03:56.58 | Seven_up | Yea Convoy is what got me hooked way back then |
| 03:57.06 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 03:57.14 | SGI | translate |
| 03:57.21 | SGI | is the title |
| 03:57.39 | fiberchunks | country is a style of music in the US, that generally involves drinking, fighting and trucking |
| 03:57.53 | fiberchunks | and is usually (or was) heard in most truckers' rigs |
| 03:57.55 | SGI | women |
| 03:58.02 | SGI | tooo |
| 03:58.03 | fiberchunks | women too yes |
| 03:58.08 | SGI | beer |
| 03:58.13 | fiberchunks | drinking |
| 03:58.21 | SGI | country road take me home |
| 03:58.34 | SGI | ohhhhh country road |
| 03:58.37 | Seven_up | Now he's getting it |
| 03:58.43 | fiberchunks | John Denver doesn't qualify as country (I don't think), more like folk |
| 03:59.05 | SGI | its probably the only one I know |
| 03:59.13 | fiberchunks | waylon jennings, johnny cash, willie nelson, qualify as country |
| 03:59.22 | fiberchunks | david allen coe, etc etc |
| 03:59.44 | SGI | you want to corrupt me |
| 04:00.06 | Seven_up | C.W. McCall :) |
| 04:00.18 | fiberchunks | patsy cline (for those of you older than dirt ;) ) |
| 04:00.37 | Seven_up | Hey I resemble that |
| 04:00.41 | fiberchunks | :) |
| 04:01.47 | SGI | im trying to find a nice font... |
| 04:02.02 | fiberchunks | my father used to listen to country _religiously_ when I was a youngun -- all the 'golden oldies' ... now he listens to classical |
| 04:02.12 | fiberchunks | not sure if that means anything or not ... |
| 04:02.25 | SGI | mozart |
| 04:02.57 | Seven_up | Country aint what it once was. Thats probably why |
| 04:03.11 | SGI | eroica |
| 04:03.39 | fiberchunks | I like some of the old, some of the new (which is surprising, cause I used to detest country) |
| 04:03.44 | SGI | ludwig van beethoven Symphony n3 |
| 04:04.03 | fiberchunks | rachmaninoff |
| 04:04.10 | learner | Johnny Cash's album from last year (American IV) has very little country hint to it -- pretty sweet stuff |
| 04:04.13 | fiberchunks | chopin |
| 04:04.17 | SGI | wow |
| 04:04.44 | SGI | crazy pianist |
| 04:04.54 | Spiff | imagines^ |
| 04:05.00 | SGI | spiff |
| 04:05.07 | SGI | hi Sir |
| 04:05.19 | Spiff | Hiya SGI. How goes it bud? :-) |
| 04:05.29 | Seven_up | I started listening back in about 88 but a local station started playing rock from the 70's and 80's gotta love that |
| 04:05.53 | fiberchunks | 80's I can do without, 60s and early 70s are my style though |
| 04:06.08 | SGI | you are old |
| 04:06.09 | fiberchunks | floyd, zeppelin, yes, who, genesis, sabbath, etc etc |
| 04:06.31 | SGI | wish you were her...but not you fiber |
| 04:06.32 | Spiff | Hehehehe SGI |
| 04:06.53 | learner | hearing johnny sing "In My Life" is a real heart felt tune |
| 04:06.55 | fiberchunks | though I am an 80's child -- so I'm into the 'flock of seagulls' type of thing once in a while ;) |
| 04:07.17 | SGI | 80's |
| 04:07.59 | Seven_up | My brother gave me hand me down Foghat, ZZ Top, Led Zepplin, Deep purple, on 8 track :) |
| 04:08.02 | SGI | I love the music from 60's to 80's .....stop after |
| 04:08.23 | fiberchunks | ah, there you go, nothing like foghat or ZZ on an 8 track :) |
| 04:09.05 | Seven_up | And that solid thunk when it switched tracks. lol |
| 04:09.12 | Spiff | What's an 8 track? ;) |
| 04:09.13 | Spiff | LoL |
| 04:09.16 | Spiff | Just kidding. :-) |
| 04:09.35 | Seven_up | Thanks Spiff |
| 04:09.49 | SGI | I can show to you |
| 04:10.03 | SGI | an 8 tracks |
| 04:10.07 | Spiff | I may not have lived in that era.. but I do know what they are. :) My dad had one in his old car actually. |
| 04:10.46 | SGI | and the trailer back....for all collection |
| 04:13.56 | SGI | 09hh |
| 04:14.17 | SGI | arg |
| 04:14.25 | Spiff | hh? :) |
| 04:14.37 | SGI | nothing |
| 04:14.40 | fiberchunks | and in green too |
| 04:14.52 | Spiff | Why does that show up in green? |
| 04:15.05 | fiberchunks | dunno, it does in irssi |
| 04:15.06 | Spiff | Is it X-Chat that reads it that way? |
| 04:15.20 | fiberchunks | some color code I imagine |
| 04:15.20 | SGI | im using xchat with the mac...some prob |
| 04:15.47 | SGI | 07yellow |
| 04:16.02 | Spiff | yellow |
| 04:16.09 | Spiff | Does mine do that too? :| |
| 04:16.11 | fiberchunks | yah, how'd you do that? |
| 04:16.13 | learner | good night good sirs |
| 04:16.18 | fiberchunks | nite learned one |
| 04:16.21 | Spiff | G'night learner. :-) |
| 04:16.21 | SGI | 10type 10 and after a word |
| 04:16.29 | Seven_up | Night learner thanks again |
| 04:16.30 | SGI | nite |
| 04:16.37 | Spiff | yellow 10 |
| 04:16.39 | Spiff | ? |
| 04:16.39 | Spiff | LoL |
| 04:16.48 | fiberchunks | 10yellow |
| 04:16.53 | SGI | 10 qqq |
| 04:16.56 | fiberchunks | %10yellow |
| 04:17.01 | fiberchunks | 10 qqq |
| 04:17.04 | fiberchunks | phbbt |
| 04:17.06 | Spiff | I don't get it. :S |
| 04:17.13 | Seven_up | 10-4 lol |
| 04:17.13 | SGI | no is the code when you using xchat "mac" |
| 04:17.59 | SGI | there is an arrow on your right lower |
| 04:18.07 | SGI | lower right |
| 04:18.29 | fiberchunks | yello |
| 04:18.44 | SGI | beeer |
| 04:19.09 | SGI | to many "e" |
| 04:19.14 | Spiff | What IRC client are you using, SGI? |
| 04:19.30 | SGI | xchat aqua for mac |
| 04:19.39 | fiberchunks | spiff, say something |
| 04:19.46 | Spiff | Something |
| 04:19.49 | Spiff | ;-) |
| 04:19.52 | fiberchunks | phbbt, that didn't work |
| 04:20.18 | fiberchunks | try again |
| 04:20.24 | SGI | test |
| 04:20.37 | SGI | one |
| 04:21.01 | fiberchunks | oo, reverse video |
| 04:21.08 | fiberchunks | now you spiff |
| 04:21.15 | SGI | 02funny |
| 04:21.18 | fiberchunks | blue |
| 04:21.28 | Spiff | Hmm? What about me? :-) |
| 04:21.37 | fiberchunks | bah, this function is borked |
| 04:21.46 | fiberchunks | or I'm stupid -- I'll opt for the latter |
| 04:21.47 | SGI | tell me the rgb color of this one |
| 04:22.13 | SGI | oooooo |
| 04:22.28 | SGI | 04spiff |
| 04:22.40 | Spiff | Hehehe. |
| 04:22.45 | Spiff | You want the RGB for red? ;) |
| 04:22.47 | fiberchunks | oh, now your nick is bright green and the text is red |
| 04:22.50 | SGI | ok stop is enought SGi |
| 04:23.02 | fiberchunks | and I must work -- later on y'all |
| 04:23.12 | SGI | i want my color back |
| 04:23.28 | Seven_up | Yep im gone too. thanks for the help fiber |
| 04:23.33 | SGI | me too |
| 04:23.35 | Spiff | E00000 |
| 04:23.37 | Spiff | C-ya Seven. |
| 04:23.43 | fiberchunks | np |
| 04:23.44 | SGI | 123 123 123 |
| 04:23.55 | SGI | RGB |
| 04:24.17 | SGI | no hex |
| 04:24.37 | Spiff | Ohh.... nevermind. |
| 04:24.40 | SGI | rgb start from 0 to 255 |
| 04:24.40 | Spiff | 223 0 0 |
| 04:24.46 | Spiff | Is that shade of red. :-) |
| 04:24.59 | SGI | have you a tool |
| 04:25.23 | Spiff | I just tossed it in Fireworks MX. :) |
| 04:25.43 | SGI | you know how to use |
| 04:25.50 | Spiff | Use what? :) |
| 04:26.06 | SGI | macromedia |
| 04:26.50 | Spiff | I don't know much about Flash....... yet. :) |
| 04:26.52 | Spiff | I'm learning though. |
| 04:26.57 | SGI | cool |
| 04:27.03 | SGI | 0 0 0 20 |
| 04:29.36 | Spiff | Hehe. :-) |
| 04:30.55 | SGI | its my IQ |
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| 04:33.01 | Spiff | Hehehehe. |
| 04:33.09 | Spiff | Mine fell off the charts. ;-) |
| 04:33.37 | SGI | ~dict charts |
| 04:33.45 | SGI | see |
| 04:34.01 | SGI | thats is mine |
| 04:34.15 | SGI | ~dict chart |
| 04:34.40 | Spiff | Charts= visual displays of information. ;-) |
| 04:35.06 | SGI | ~dict Spiff |
| 04:35.14 | SGI | hehehh |
| 04:35.20 | SGI | no definition |
| 04:36.21 | SGI | arg you learn something with one system and in the other one is totally different |
| 04:36.35 | Spiff | Hehehe. Yep. |
| 04:37.50 | SGI | two different team |
| 04:38.20 | SGI | where I work too |
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| 04:39.33 | Spiff | Hey Apathy. :-) |
| 04:39.42 | MrApathyCream | lo |
| 04:40.41 | Spiff | How's it goin'? |
| 04:41.15 | MrApathyCream | peachy |
| 04:41.29 | SGI | ~dict peachy |
| 04:41.48 | SGI | which one |
| 04:41.52 | Spiff | Hehehe. SGI likes that dictionary. ;-) |
| 04:41.59 | Spiff | "Very good" I'd say. :) |
| 04:42.07 | SGI | I have three dictionary |
| 04:42.34 | Spiff | Ahh. Which one do you prefer? |
| 04:42.46 | SGI | my wife |
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| 04:44.20 | Spiff | Hehehe. You're married to a dictionary? ;) |
| 04:44.50 | SGI | lol she can read that one |
| 04:45.22 | SGI | the problem..dont fit in the shelf |
| 04:45.32 | SGI | she is ready to kill me |
| 04:47.02 | Spiff | LoL SGI. :-) |
| 04:53.46 | SGI | msg spiff how you doing the yellow |
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| 04:56.31 | SGI | dont do it again carnage |
| 04:56.42 | SGI | you can speak here |
| 04:57.05 | Carnage | ok hi\ |
| 04:57.05 | SGI | type /msg sgi and after whaT YOU WANT |
| 04:58.23 | SGI | sorry |
| 05:05.31 | Spiff | Like this, SGI? |
| 05:07.16 | Spiff | He who wants to make friends must first show himself friendly. :-) |
| 05:07.54 | Carnage | i try |
| 05:08.17 | SGI | sage |
| 05:08.24 | Spiff | There were times in the past that you didn't though. It'll take time. :-) |
| 05:09.04 | Carnage | good thing is i have been trying |
| 05:10.29 | Spiff | Yes. :-) |
| 05:10.36 | Spiff | Keep up the good work. :o) |
| 05:11.03 | Spiff | Slow to anger, quick to forgiveness. That is the attitude of a true friend. |
| 05:11.12 | Spiff | forgive^ |
| 05:11.43 | Carnage | its hard not 2 swear when someone is swearing at u |
| 05:12.06 | Carnage | luckly quol was there |
| 05:12.43 | Spiff | Yep.. I guess so. Most players are pretty nice tho. |
| 05:18.37 | Spiff | I'm out. |
| 05:18.40 | Spiff | Laterz all. |
| 05:18.45 | Carnage | bye |
| 05:18.47 | Spiff | Good match, Carnage. :-) |
| 05:18.51 | Carnage | u2 :) |
| 05:20.02 | SGI | nite all kids around |
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| 05:43.11 | MrApathyCream | w00t! |
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| 05:51.42 | MrApathyCream | Autopilot wins 23 - 13 - 16 over robots :) |
| 05:52.55 | MrApathyCream | er, 23, (-13) (-16) |
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| 06:41.52 | captain_proton | sooo MrApathyCream |
| 06:41.57 | captain_proton | i can test things now :) |
| 06:45.47 | MrApathyCream | woowoo! |
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| 07:24.47 | MrApathyCream | Roger wants a match on xmission |
| 07:34.36 | captain_proton | alrighty :) |
| 07:44.00 | MrApathyCream | tanks |
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| 14:32.15 | Quol | ~fishslap learner |
| 14:32.16 | | ACTION slaps learner up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 14:32.27 | learner | ~whaleslap quol |
| 14:32.27 | | ibot slaps Quol upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale |
| 14:32.42 | learner | :D |
| 14:33.32 | Quol | how R ya buddy |
| 14:33.53 | learner | sore, but doing okay -- I think I'll live |
| 14:34.30 | learner | I biked in to the office yesterday for the first time -- 30 miles total |
| 14:35.18 | learner | My butt is sore (read: bruised), and my muscles are just starting to get me back for what I put them through |
| 14:37.57 | fiberchunks | congratulations |
| 14:38.05 | fiberchunks | and good morn |
| 14:38.19 | learner | moinin fiba |
| 14:38.33 | fiberchunks | did you prepare the drinking accessories ahead of time ? :) |
| 14:38.57 | learner | actually yes -- week and a half ago :) |
| 14:39.07 | fiberchunks | good man |
| 14:39.46 | fiberchunks | I love having dreams - luckily, I usually remember them |
| 14:39.57 | Quol | ugh - I have to go |
| 14:40.03 | learner | heh, oh? was she cute? :) |
| 14:40.10 | fiberchunks | have a good one quol |
| 14:40.11 | Quol | bbl though... |
| 14:40.16 | learner | cya later quol |
| 14:40.32 | fiberchunks | no, my dreams are very rarely based in reality -- hence why I enjoy them so much ;) |
| 14:41.21 | fiberchunks | think looney tunes cartoon 'wacky world' but in full vivid color -- or, to put it another way, any number of Salvador Dali paintings -- that's what my dreams are like |
| 14:42.00 | learner | Until the past few years, I used to rarely ever dream -- maybe once every few months |
| 14:42.13 | learner | hehe, that would be a good dream :) |
| 14:42.28 | fiberchunks | luckily, I've found the 'key' to remembering my dreams |
| 14:42.38 | fiberchunks | and having rememberable ones |
| 14:42.46 | learner | pizza? |
| 14:43.21 | fiberchunks | nah, set the alarm for 2 hours _before_ I really need to wake up ... I wake up long enough to reset it to the right time, and then have 2 hours of rememberable dreams |
| 14:44.16 | fiberchunks | it's odd, but they could be some of the most 'horrific' dreams to other people, but they always put me in a good mood when I get up and remember them |
| 14:44.23 | fiberchunks | hence why I try and cultivate them |
| 14:45.01 | learner | cultivate away, that's cool |
| 14:46.53 | fiberchunks | so what's on yer schedule today, sore man? |
| 14:48.01 | learner | my schedule? little movement as possible, perhaps enough to get to the fridge and make myself some drinks, and a bunch of coding |
| 14:48.10 | learner | hope to finish the voting poll today |
| 14:48.33 | fiberchunks | ah, cool |
| 14:48.57 | learner | what's on your plate? |
| 14:49.13 | fiberchunks | just moved a piano, gotta go to my bro's for dinner tonight |
| 14:49.29 | fiberchunks | aside from that, doing more css/xhtml learning |
| 14:49.42 | fiberchunks | and getting some of my friends websites converted |
| 14:49.52 | learner | coo |
| 14:50.28 | fiberchunks | probably bathe the lizard too |
| 14:50.32 | learner | yea, moving a piano is my idea of fun early in the morning too .. *ahem* |
| 14:50.52 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 14:51.06 | fiberchunks | at least I'll never have to move it again -- it is gone, finally |
| 14:51.20 | learner | ah, the move out the door kind of deal |
| 14:51.25 | fiberchunks | right |
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| 17:21.36 | *** kick/#bzflag [thilo_!thilo@vmax.unix-ag.uni-siegen.de] by Chestal (Hasta la vista, baby!) |
| 17:26.53 | bryjen | ~seen JBDigriz |
| 17:26.53 | | jbdigriz <~JBDiGriz@216.188.65.26> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 18h 1m 41s ago, saying: 'Most published science fiction authors consider themselves fairly geeky, probably more so than their fans.'. |
| 17:41.43 | *** kick/#bzflag [chatelaine!~jeffm@adsl-64-172-198-79.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] by Patlabor221 (King Kong Kahmahameaha BOOOOOT!) |
| 17:42.50 | *** join/#bzflag chatelaine (~aec@208.48.199.215) |
| 17:44.09 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-135-254.ADSL.mnsi.net) |
| 17:44.28 | bryjen | more boots than conversation this morning |
| 17:46.24 | bryjen | I knew that was coming |
| 17:46.34 | Patlabor221 | I will be good tho |
| 17:47.04 | *** join/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@bgp01138bgs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 17:47.33 | Patlabor221 | tho the irc log still says I'm the insane op |
| 17:47.45 | fiberchunks | again, we already knew that ;) |
| 17:48.04 | Patlabor221 | it also says chestal is my faithfull dog like follower |
| 17:48.15 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 17:48.44 | Patlabor221 | I don't quite know if I like these all digital speakers |
| 17:49.05 | bryjen | it thinks you're insane because you've kicked so _few_ people |
| 17:49.19 | Patlabor221 | oh |
| 17:49.31 | *** kick/#bzflag [bryjen!~jeffm@adsl-64-172-198-79.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] by Patlabor221 (gotta fix that then :)) |
| 17:49.40 | learner | hehe |
| 17:49.51 | SGI | hi |
| 17:49.51 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 17:50.16 | Patlabor221 | damn he won't join on an invite that sucks |
| 17:50.18 | SGI | hi quol welcome back |
| 17:50.26 | Patlabor221 | I hate joke kicking people who don't have autojoin |
| 17:50.57 | SGI | more enemy |
| 17:51.47 | SGI | 07Quol |
| 17:52.11 | SGI | 04Learner is a tomato |
| 17:52.28 | Patlabor221 | one of those sounds good now |
| 17:52.30 | tomato_soup | howdy sgi :) |
| 17:52.41 | Quol | SGI |
| 17:52.56 | bzgirl | Patlabor221: fiberchunks |
| 17:52.56 | SGI | 04nice a tomato_soup |
| 17:53.04 | Quol | SGI - how are ya? thanks for the welcome back :) |
| 17:53.11 | fiberchunks | bzgirl: Patlabor221 me |
| 17:53.20 | SGI | hi Quol nicw vacation??? |
| 17:53.21 | fiberchunks | what? I'm perplexed |
| 17:53.34 | SGI | nice |
| 17:53.45 | Quol | SGI: yes - glad to have my internet back though |
| 17:54.06 | Quol | tried to access the net from where I was and it was noooo goooood tooooooooooooo sloooooowwwwwwww |
| 17:54.08 | SGI | mine it was down |
| 17:54.38 | Quol | no 56K even - only 28.8 :( |
| 17:54.49 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (1000@ky-owensboro1a-242.owboky.adelphia.net) |
| 17:54.56 | bryjen | Blah. |
| 17:54.58 | SGI | 04what 28.8 |
| 17:55.03 | Patlabor221 | sorry bout that |
| 17:55.13 | SGI | a pigeon is faster |
| 17:55.27 | fiberchunks | ah, everything is red |
| 17:55.28 | Patlabor221 | see I know I can do this all day long and it dosn't mater... |
| 17:55.29 | Quol | and more reliable |
| 17:55.30 | *** kick/#bzflag [bzdoug!~jeffm@adsl-64-172-198-79.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net] by Patlabor221 (Patlabor221) |
| 17:55.31 | *** join/#bzflag bzdoug (~~joe@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net) |
| 17:55.32 | bryjen | It didn't close the tab for #bzflag. AND it didn't even put in a message "You were kicked by that hoser Patlabor221 " |
| 17:55.34 | bryjen | ;) |
| 17:55.40 | fiberchunks | lol |
| 17:55.45 | Patlabor221 | I even sent you a PM saying that |
| 17:55.52 | Patlabor221 | wow what client you using? |
| 17:56.07 | bryjen | Mozilla/Chatzilla |
| 17:56.14 | Patlabor221 | ohh never used that one |
| 17:56.31 | Patlabor221 | ok so no autojoin on mozilla clients |
| 17:56.41 | bryjen | Mostly cuz I've almost always got moz open anyway |
| 18:00.48 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage_ (strayer@dyn216-8-132-210.ADSL.mnsi.net) |
| 18:00.57 | bryjen | hmmm. I've got "Automatic reconnect on disconnect" and "Join these channels on startup"... |
| 18:01.27 | tomato_soup | bryjen: irssi? |
| 18:01.42 | Patlabor221 | hmm that dosn't smee to be an autojoin |
| 18:01.46 | bryjen | Nope. Chatzilla |
| 18:02.01 | tomato_soup | bah, er ah :) |
| 18:02.10 | *** part/#bzflag bzgirl (~orchid@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca) |
| 18:02.14 | bryjen | tomato_soup: right the first time |
| 18:03.45 | bryjen | 4 soup ? |
| 18:04.17 | bryjen | ah n/m |
| 18:04.48 | *** join/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 18:05.05 | tomato_soup | Yummy soup |
| 18:05.09 | tomato_soup | homemade |
| 18:05.18 | bryjen | Ewwww |
| 18:05.29 | tomato_soup | big pieces of beef ... mmmmm.. |
| 18:05.39 | bryjen | Tomatoes are for ketchup. |
| 18:06.05 | bryjen | And pasta sauce |
| 18:06.15 | tomato_soup | don't make me go grab a tomato and eat it like an apple.. |
| 18:06.31 | bryjen | And pizza |
| 18:06.47 | bryjen | eh, pizza sauce |
| 18:07.58 | bryjen | there's beef in _tomato_ soup? |
| 18:09.53 | tomato_soup | oh yea.. it's a special recipe -- not at all like that campbells carp |
| 18:10.12 | tomato_soup | chunks of tomatos, beef, garlic, pepper, mmmm |
| 18:11.05 | bryjen | sha. my wife likes the campbells stuff. her recipe is 1 part soup 2 parts garlic ;) |
| 18:11.49 | david_v | lol |
| 18:11.53 | tomato_soup | there's not much tomato to stat stuff other that the color.. |
| 18:12.06 | tomato_soup | s/stat/that/ |
| 18:15.22 | SGI | 03green salad |
| 18:17.31 | SGI | 03my salad |
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| 18:18.40 | SGI | 04hi Legolas nice to "see" you |
| 18:18.42 | Legolas | hi sgi |
| 18:18.45 | Legolas | :) |
| 18:18.54 | SGI | how is going |
| 18:18.57 | Legolas | hey david_v |
| 18:19.00 | Legolas | great |
| 18:19.09 | Legolas | won a soccer game today |
| 18:19.35 | david_v | hey |
| 18:19.43 | Legolas | hey david |
| 18:19.45 | david_v | cool |
| 18:20.04 | SGI | youplay soccer |
| 18:20.23 | Legolas | yes |
| 18:20.25 | SGI | which rule |
| 18:20.34 | Legolas | rule? |
| 18:20.52 | fiberchunks | gooooooooaaaaaaalllllllll brasil! |
| 18:20.57 | SGI | sorry sgienglish |
| 18:21.03 | Legolas | haha |
| 18:21.08 | SGI | goalkeeper ??? or |
| 18:21.15 | david_v | ah "role" |
| 18:21.16 | Legolas | forward or midfield |
| 18:21.53 | SGI | when i was young I used to play |
| 18:21.57 | Legolas | ya |
| 18:22.00 | Legolas | its cool |
| 18:22.10 | fiberchunks | on saturday? |
| 18:22.12 | fiberchunks | how odd |
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| 18:22.58 | CIA | 03larsl * 12bzflag/src/bzadmin (3 files): Added usage info and a -help option to bzadmin |
| 18:23.05 | SGI | overtime |
| 18:23.07 | Legolas | yep |
| 18:23.17 | Legolas | its better than on sunday |
| 18:23.39 | Legolas | becasue i couldnt play in most of them |
| 18:26.40 | tomato_soup | can anyone explain what TimeKeeper::sunExplodeTime is? |
| 18:26.44 | Legolas | ttyl |
| 18:26.48 | Legolas | off to play bz |
| 18:27.10 | Chestal | tomato: I guess just a point in time that's always in the future |
| 18:27.23 | Chestal | tomato: like +inf |
| 18:27.43 | tomato_soup | Hmm.. okay, thanks |
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| 18:30.59 | MrApathyCream | tag, chestal |
| 18:31.37 | SGI | 04no we dont have anymore soup now |
| 18:32.26 | Chestal | hi MAC |
| 18:32.54 | SGI | hi Sir |
| 18:37.17 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: How did your bots dodge bullets, did it just find the closest one to dodge, or did it take all possible hits into account? |
| 18:39.31 | Chestal | good question. I think the closest one, ore to be more prcise the one that would hit first |
| 18:40.11 | Chestal | and my bots did only move to evade bullets, no other movement at all (ok, except for the shot acceleration one :-) |
| 18:40.41 | MrApathyCream | wanna teach Roger to dodge |
| 18:40.55 | MrApathyCream | altho since he's constantly moving, it's a lil more complicated |
| 18:41.01 | Chestal | it's more difficult for a moving bot probybly |
| 18:41.29 | MrApathyCream | He looks for flags now, tho :) |
| 18:41.45 | MrApathyCream | He's especially good with GM :) |
| 18:42.05 | Chestal | I wouldn't put too much effort into roger, he is probably more or less good enough |
| 18:42.17 | Chestal | he is still anooyingly dumb when no opponents are around though :-) |
| 18:42.37 | Chestal | I would be happy to write clever bots when we would have a bot API though |
| 18:43.05 | Chestal | does Roger avoid cheating so far? for example, stealth? |
| 18:44.40 | Chestal | hmm, I have a strange hang when starting up 1.9 here |
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| 18:45.49 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 18:47.20 | MrApathyCream | Chestal, stealth, no |
| 18:47.48 | MrApathyCream | Chestal, my goal in roger was to make RobotPlayer less appealing so that Riker would be willing to remove it |
| 18:48.01 | MrApathyCream | without doing that, i don't think will ever get new bot api |
| 18:48.23 | MrApathyCream | Roger usually puts a whooping on the robots |
| 18:48.47 | Chestal | the fixed / slightly enhanced -solo robots are actually useful now, though |
| 18:49.04 | Chestal | they're not competetive, but playing against 3 of them rabbit style at least is fun |
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| 18:49.16 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o captain_pistachi] by ChanServ |
| 18:49.24 | MrApathyCream | try autopilot and 3 robots :) |
| 18:49.54 | Chestal | I should put my bot up against them, but it's not easily possible |
| 18:49.55 | patlabor221 | autopilot is way jumpy, it's like playing against spiff |
| 18:50.12 | Chestal | hurrah, someone who experiences the same problem |
| 18:50.16 | MrApathyCream | the nice thing about roger is that he really doesn't rely on any code that a normal player doesn't use |
| 18:50.20 | Chestal | pat: I assume that keyboard steering is jumpy, too? |
| 18:50.36 | patlabor221 | I mean it Jumps up and down a lot |
| 18:50.41 | Chestal | ah :-( |
| 18:50.44 | patlabor221 | I've never used keys |
| 18:50.45 | MrApathyCream | so all that region stuff could be tossed, and playing.cxx could be cleaned up |
| 18:50.48 | MrApathyCream | into an api |
| 18:50.57 | Chestal | so I still seem to be the only person for whom keyboard steerign behaves strange |
| 18:51.13 | patlabor221 | you and fiber may be the only ones who use it. |
| 18:51.18 | MrApathyCream | patlabor221, yes, i want to teach roger to dodge more, although since he's on the move all time, it's a lil bit trickier |
| 18:51.19 | Chestal | MAC: that would onyl be part of a basic Robot API though |
| 18:51.27 | learner | I use it solely |
| 18:51.33 | bryjen | someone who using the keyboard to steer is _strange_ |
| 18:51.42 | patlabor221 | keyboard_users ++ |
| 18:51.43 | MrApathyCream | Chestal: agreed |
| 18:51.48 | Chestal | and I do not see burrowed tanks, and this is on 2 different computers |
| 18:51.56 | MrApathyCream | but removing robotplayer would really make cleaning up the client alot easier |
| 18:52.05 | fiberchunks | it's always behaved strange chestal, as it's mostly a hack imho |
| 18:52.06 | MrApathyCream | Chestal, that's really odd |
| 18:52.15 | MrApathyCream | it's the same code as going through teleporters |
| 18:52.34 | MrApathyCream | do you see them cut up when going thru teles? |
| 18:52.40 | Chestal | hmm, no idea |
| 18:52.47 | MrApathyCream | i bet not |
| 18:53.04 | MrApathyCream | it basically uses glClipPlane |
| 18:53.06 | fiberchunks | I use the keyboard for steering, but it breaks other stuff, such as messaging |
| 18:53.14 | Chestal | both Debian Linux machines, but my work machien uses software rendering and my hoem machine hardware gl |
| 18:53.28 | Chestal | with keybaord steering, the gfx are stop'n#go like |
| 18:53.31 | MrApathyCream | d = 0 plane equation |
| 18:53.39 | Chestal | but this is only on my work machine |
| 18:54.00 | fiberchunks | that used to happen on all my machines as well, from 1.7e to present -- not sure if it's still there |
| 18:55.12 | MrApathyCream | nice chattin, someone fix email nots!!!!! bbiab |
| 18:56.29 | fiberchunks | seems smooth with my most recent build |
| 18:56.40 | fiberchunks | dunno if messaging is fixed though |
| 18:56.44 | Chestal | on my hoem machien it's smooth, but not on my work machine |
| 18:56.49 | Chestal | not sure what's the difference |
| 19:01.04 | Chestal | hmm, when I force software rendering at home it starts behaving bad with keyboard |
| 19:01.46 | patlabor221 | frame rate releated? |
| 19:03.07 | Chestal | hmm, not sure |
| 19:03.18 | Chestal | maybe a problem with the event handling, client / X11 synching? |
| 19:03.26 | fiberchunks | does such a place exist where you can look up whether a domain name exists and is registered? |
| 19:03.47 | patlabor221 | godady.com |
| 19:03.50 | Chestal | this extra showWindow() call causes the hang on startup for me |
| 19:03.54 | fiberchunks | thx |
| 19:03.55 | patlabor221 | or any other registrar |
| 19:12.39 | Chestal | hmm, the problem is the missing getMousePOsition call |
| 19:15.32 | Chestal | I don't know why, but it helps to insert it |
| 19:17.59 | SGI | 04bye bye |
| 19:18.18 | *** part/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@bgp01138bgs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 19:24.52 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): query mouse position always, even when using keyboard and joystick; this fixes the straneg stuttering ecountered on some systems (X11+software rendering); exact cause for this bug is unknown but this fix shouldn't cause any harm |
| 19:25.46 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): remove extra showWindow() on each redraw again; caused hans on startup for me (had to switch from X to text consoel and back in Linux) |
| 19:27.46 | patlabor221 | who is hans?:) |
| 19:28.33 | Chestal | hmm :-) |
| 19:28.47 | Chestal | ~dict hans |
| 19:28.55 | Chestal | ~hans |
| 19:28.56 | | methinks hans is the gdmxml guy, or having trouble with the bot, or the designer of the desert color scheme for vim, now part of the main package, or from Santa Fe, New Mexico, going to BYU and hopefully graduating soon... |
| 19:29.25 | patlabor221 | all that caused by a showWindow() call, wow |
| 19:31.12 | *** join/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 19:31.27 | *** join/#bzflag Spiff (Spiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 19:38.46 | fiberchunks | patlabor221: what does 'parked' mean? |
| 19:39.25 | patlabor221 | basicly they host the DNS, and make it resolve to a "website coming soon" page |
| 19:40.07 | fiberchunks | so it's not actually 'owned' by anyone right? |
| 19:40.53 | bryjen | or they're holding it trying to get someone to offer them $$ |
| 19:41.12 | patlabor221 | the domain is owned |
| 19:41.21 | patlabor221 | it's just not hosted on a real site |
| 19:41.23 | *** join/#bzflag tea|tree_ (~tea|tree@pD9E95430.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 19:41.25 | fiberchunks | ah |
| 19:41.31 | tea|tree_ | hey guys |
| 19:41.36 | tea|tree_ | back from holiday :D |
| 19:41.38 | Spiff | Hi Tea. |
| 19:41.40 | patlabor221 | as far as internic is concerned the domain was registered and payed for |
| 19:41.44 | Spiff | OoOOo.... cool. :-) |
| 19:41.47 | tea|tree_ | ^^ |
| 19:41.50 | tea|tree_ | OoooO |
| 19:41.53 | Spiff | Have fun? |
| 19:41.57 | tea|tree_ | well |
| 19:42.02 | patlabor221 | parking is just a way to get a temp page put up, it's used by a lot of domain squaters. |
| 19:42.08 | tea|tree_ | on the first day a food poisining |
| 19:42.09 | fiberchunks | damn, it is hard work trying to think of a good name that isn't up :\ |
| 19:42.11 | tea|tree_ | ^^ |
| 19:42.12 | tea|tree_ | lol |
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| 20:07.37 | tea|tree_ | oh Spiff |
| 20:07.42 | tea|tree_ | oh boy |
| 20:08.01 | Spiff | Hmm? :-) |
| 20:08.04 | Spiff | Hi bzgirl. |
| 20:08.14 | tea|tree_ | getting the latest bz news ;) |
| 20:08.15 | bzgirl | hi |
| 20:08.19 | tea|tree_ | hey angie |
| 20:09.26 | Spiff | Oh yeah. Lag=loss. Oh well. |
| 20:10.03 | tea|tree_ | well |
| 20:10.22 | tea|tree_ | actually not that but never mind i wont say a word about this public |
| 20:28.57 | *** part/#bzflag Quol (~QuolSimo@modemcable052.11-203-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 20:34.05 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-135-64.ADSL.mnsi.net) |
| 20:34.21 | Carnage | hi :) |
| 20:37.46 | Spiff | YooO. |
| 20:41.52 | Spiff | Yikes. |
| 20:41.59 | Spiff | Purple text.. this scares me. |
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| 20:42.35 | Spiff | Red stands out pretty well. |
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| 22:05.16 | CIA | 03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): don't send private messages to robots |
| 22:05.31 | learner | aww shucks |
| 22:05.44 | learner | why not |
| 22:06.10 | Tupone | ~aww |
| 22:13.23 | *** part/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 22:14.54 | bryjen | hmm |
| 22:15.02 | bryjen | "Robot, shoot learner" |
| 22:22.55 | Chestal | Tupone: hmm, didn't someone say it was not possible to identify robots? |
| 22:23.19 | Chestal | Tupone: did you see that I reverted the ShowWindow() change? |
| 22:23.23 | Tupone | Don't know. I suppose you wrote in BUGS. Wasn't you? |
| 22:23.50 | Chestal | I wrote the initial bug in there, but someone else added the explanation |
| 22:24.05 | Tupone | I saw that change. And I put again as Open the relevant BUG on sf |
| 22:24.30 | Chestal | I didn't try to find out the exact cause of the hang, but it was gone after I removed the line |
| 22:24.31 | Tupone | type in the protocol is TankPlayer or ComputerPlayer |
| 22:25.00 | Tupone | when you goy an AddPlayer message there is a iled called type |
| 22:25.03 | Chestal | Tupone: looks like yours and my commits are making it onto the ml :-) |
| 22:25.39 | Tupone | Yesterday I was asking you if there is a priority on the BUG list |
| 22:26.01 | Tupone | Just to focus attention on it. I just grab the first :) |
| 22:26.22 | Chestal | hmm, that's great, commit maisl are blocked, but real spam seems to make it through |
| 22:26.45 | Chestal | Tupone: yes, there is a priority field |
| 22:27.07 | Tupone | on BUGS (file) or sf BUG |
| 22:27.53 | Chestal | ah, I meant the bug tracker |
| 22:27.59 | Chestal | the BUG file is onordered I guess |
| 22:28.25 | Tupone | what about sound. Is still not corect for you? |
| 22:28.33 | Tupone | s/corect/correct |
| 22:28.41 | Chestal | last time I checked it wasn't |
| 22:28.50 | Chestal | and there haven't been any changes in that area AFAIK since |
| 22:29.08 | Tupone | I'll try to work on: private messages are no longer echoed in console |
| 22:29.23 | Tupone | WDYT about? |
| 22:29.34 | Chestal | which solution do you want to use? local echo or bzfs transmittign it to sender+receiver? |
| 22:29.43 | Chestal | sound |
| 22:30.11 | Tupone | I'll think local echo |
| 22:30.26 | *** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-135-252.ADSL.mnsi.net) |
| 22:30.42 | Tupone | Sound seems correct to me so I cannot fix unless you let me understand what do you not ear |
| 22:30.56 | Chestal | last tiem I tested I didn't hear other people's shots |
| 22:31.15 | Tupone | OK! I'll try on mine |
| 22:31.58 | Chestal | first two items in BUGS can be assumed fix I think |
| 22:32.48 | Tupone | I hear those sound. Tried with robots! |
| 22:33.25 | Chestal | let's test on ducati? |
| 22:33.31 | Tupone | Now! |
| 22:33.37 | Carnage | hey chestal, got a teammate? |
| 22:33.44 | Chestal | Tupne: yes |
| 22:33.46 | Chestal | Carnage: no |
| 22:37.18 | Chestal | hmm, impossible to test with 1.7 bots, they blow up all the time |
| 22:38.37 | Tupone | I tested with ducati. Now I understand. I'll try to see what happens |
| 22:38.54 | Tupone | sound 1st priority x me |
| 22:44.28 | Chestal | I found the bug |
| 22:45.54 | Chestal | at least I thought I did, hmm |
| 22:45.56 | Tupone | sound? |
| 22:46.53 | Chestal | yes, there is a break missing, but I fixed and and it still didn't seem to work (tested with robot) |
| 22:47.17 | Chestal | playing.cxx 3238 |
| 22:47.18 | tea|tree_ | uh |
| 22:47.43 | Chestal | Tupone: or somewhere near |
| 22:48.01 | Chestal | Tupone: it's looking for a player matchign the shot id (unnecessarily though) |
| 22:48.22 | Chestal | the loop coudl be ripped out, but should still work when we add a 'break;' after ->addSHot |
| 22:49.10 | Chestal | a recompiel seems to fix it |
| 22:51.30 | Tupone | Yeah, I see all. Why the fix did not work? Or it, actually |
| 22:52.40 | Chestal | I'm rewriting it now |
| 22:53.06 | Tupone | I'm trying to see what was there before :) |
| 22:55.39 | Tupone | It was while adding the WorldWeapon. Code moved a little |
| 22:56.15 | Tupone | and a break was there |
| 22:58.52 | *** join/#bzflag Spiff (Spiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com) |
| 22:59.06 | Spiff | I don't suppose there's a ducati admin around? |
| 22:59.16 | Chestal | hmm, I was goign to smplify the code. sadly, only RemotePlayer and WorldPlayer have addSHot(), and the common base class hasn't |
| 22:59.27 | Spiff | Some sicko is on there ("Wizardz") making really gross/obscene comments. |
| 23:00.31 | Chestal | maybe WorldPlayer shoudl be derived from RemotePlayer? |
| 23:00.35 | Chestal | hmm |
| 23:00.59 | Tupone | a break does it work. i tried it! |
| 23:01.22 | Chestal | yes, but the code is still too complicated |
| 23:01.27 | Chestal | who designed World Weapons? MAC? |
| 23:01.47 | Tupone | MAC has written the code in there! |
| 23:04.07 | Chestal | hm, they use different data structures for the shots. I feel World should be derived from Remote, but mabe MAC should look into this |
| 23:04.36 | Tupone | MAC is here, I suppose! |
| 23:06.08 | Tupone | I think we should add an other entry on player array |
| 23:06.20 | Chestal | hmm? |
| 23:07.32 | Tupone | It should be like all the other Remote Player, so we need to put on the player array as an extra player |
| 23:08.04 | Tupone | and the addShot will be called automatically |
| 23:08.22 | CIA | 03larsl * 12bzflag/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Added man page for bzadmin (someone else might want to check if it's OK, I don't know any nroff at all) |
| 23:08.29 | Chestal | Tupone: lookupPlayer handles that |
| 23:08.55 | Chestal | but two problems: it returns a Player*, so we would need to downcast to RemotePlayer to be able to call addShot(), and WorldPLayer is not derived from RemotePlayer |
| 23:09.06 | Chestal | so for now, I'll stick with the odl way, oh well |
| 23:09.19 | Tupone | break ? |
| 23:10.20 | Chestal | at least I will get rid of the loop |
| 23:11.02 | Tupone | the break was before the World Weapon. So IMHO better to reput in |
| 23:11.31 | Chestal | I removed the loop |
| 23:12.00 | Tupone | IC |
| 23:12.25 | Chestal | if the above problems wouldn't exist, I could remove 6 lines of code or so |
| 23:12.41 | CIA | 03larsl * 12bzflag/src/bzadmin (bzadmin.cxx): Added some more info to the bzadmin help text |
| 23:13.01 | Chestal | Tupone: quick test on ducati? |
| 23:13.12 | Tupone | Have you commited |
| 23:13.21 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-226-56.dialup.innercite.com) |
| 23:13.25 | Tupone | I'll do with the old client |
| 23:16.07 | Chestal | serevr kicked roger for speeding, hmm |
| 23:16.54 | Tupone | day ago I'll be kicked of for jumping to high. But it does not happen anymore |
| 23:17.08 | Tupone | s/to/too/ |
| 23:17.17 | Chestal | roehr had highspeed |
| 23:17.23 | Chestal | than you killed him, he respawned and got kicked |
| 23:17.26 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): fix sound playing for other tanks' shots |
| 23:17.29 | Chestal | uh, s/roehr/roger/ |
| 23:17.54 | Tupone | Even kick my roger for jumping was after respawning |
| 23:18.33 | CIA | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): remove some bugs which are most probably fixed |
| 23:19.20 | Tupone | Do you think we should notify users about players being bot - on the status? |
| 23:19.44 | Chestal | hmm, maybe |
| 23:20.24 | Tupone | I can commit a "bot" after the e-mail for robot, nothing for human |
| 23:20.42 | Tupone | maybe too large |
| 23:22.25 | learner | Mmm.. good match |
| 23:22.51 | Chestal | maybe the bots should get other names as callsign-#? |
| 23:23.16 | Chestal | anyway, I have to go to bed, cu |
| 23:23.25 | learner | g'night ches |
| 23:23.27 | Tupone | nite |
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| 23:28.44 | larsl | Is there a poll(pollfd*, unsigned, int) function in Win32? |
| 23:29.07 | bryjen | what were the names of the co-pilots on Airplane? |
| 23:31.40 | bryjen | heh. the inflatable autopilot had a name. otto |
| 23:39.24 | larsl | Should I add bzirc.pl and bzbz.pl to misc/ ? |
| 23:47.20 | larsl | I get lots of "SERVER: DEBUG: Poll time remaining: 0" on brlcad.org. |
| 23:49.51 | *** join/#bzflag Merry (~gig1992@adsl-68-73-87-1.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 23:50.14 | Merry | hello |
| 23:50.18 | bzgirl | hi Merry |
| 23:50.27 | Merry | I'm going on BZFlag |
| 23:50.31 | Merry | bye |
| 23:50.32 | Merry | ducati |
| 23:50.34 | Merry | bye |
| 23:50.43 | learner | hehe, hi merry |
| 23:50.44 | bzgirl | k cu |
| 23:50.52 | learner | bye merry ;) |
| 23:54.00 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-217-133-254-104.cust-adsl.tiscali.it) |
