irclog2html for #bzflag on 20031008

`00:06.05`	`bzfrank`	`good night!`
`00:06.29`	`learner`	`good night :)`
`00:10.43`	`*** join/#bzflag jolly (~k@jvnineteen.ne.client2.attbi.com)`
`00:10.57`	`learner`	`well well :)`
`00:11.03`	`jolly`	`heh, hey there :)`
`00:17.07`	`*** join/#bzflag kov (~kov@200.216.108.120)`
`00:17.16`	`*** join/#bzflag Merry (~gig1992@adsl-68-73-91-25.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net)`
`00:17.20`	`Merry`	`Hello.`
`00:17.45`	`bzgirl`	`hi`
`00:17.53`	`Merry`	`hey bzg`
`00:19.44`	`bzgirl`	`:)`
`00:19.48`	`Merry`	`wait`
`00:19.57`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`there`
`00:20.34`	`bzgirl`	`isnt there a sn0w_kitty also?`
`00:20.42`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`yep that's chicky`
`00:20.43`	`jolly`	`chikorita`
`00:20.44`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`I'm Merry`
`00:21.03`	`learner`	`monkies, doggies, and kittens`
`00:21.23`	`learner`	`all frolicing around in the sn0w`
`00:22.27`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hheehe`
`00:22.40`	`jolly`	`heh`
`00:22.42`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`00:22.49`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`chick isn't on as much tho`
`00:22.50`	`jolly`	`not even winter yet :)`
`00:22.55`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`fall`
`00:23.04`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`she's in college`
`00:23.54`	`bzgirl`	`~seen chikorita`
`00:23.56`		`chikorita <~Chikumz33@205.197.172.230> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2h 21m 2s ago, saying: 'sowee L heh dat was 4 shootin mee earlier ;)'.`
`00:24.51`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`so is david_V`
`00:24.59`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~seen david_V`
`00:25.00`		`david_v <~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2h 43m 40s ago, saying: '+- any others'.`
`00:25.05`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`neeto`
`00:25.12`	`learner`	`he`
`00:25.16`	`learner`	`heh`
`00:27.44`	`*** join/#bzflag JBDiGriz (~JBDiGriz@adsl-63-204-118-194.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net)`
`00:27.57`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hey jb`
`00:28.10`	`JBDiGriz`	`hi merry`
`00:31.24`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:31.28`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`but I'm merry`
`00:31.53`	`JBDiGriz`	`Have you decided to change your nick all the time?`
`00:32.17`	`Haldir`	`hehe`
`00:33.03`	`Bad`	`hee`
`00:33.10`	`learner`	`She's going to pass up my nick count in no time :)`
`00:33.16`	`Merry`	`lol`
`00:33.36`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`that Bad one was supposed to be bad jeans`
`00:34.12`	`JBDiGriz`	`It's a matter of creative imagination as well. Several of your nicks are pretty good, as opposed to variation of your nick. ;)`
`00:34.25`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`00:35.00`	`JBDiGriz`	`I try to change my nick, only when it works with the mood/conversation. Unfortunately, not everyone understands the changes.`
`00:35.46`	`learner`	`you mean they're not like coughlarslcough :)`
`00:36.13`	`JBDiGriz`	`I wasn't naming any nicks in particular. ;) nudge, nudge, wink, wink`
`00:37.26`	`JBDiGriz`	`Luckily you stopped the <nick>AtWork nonsense, and all of your followers stopped as well. I wanted to sing "I come from a land down under" every time I saw all of those. :)`
`00:37.46`	`learner`	`I'm just disappointed that Alan1 wasn't a Tron reference`
`00:38.03`	`JBDiGriz`	`What was that reference?`
`00:38.42`	`learner`	`Quolman`
`00:38.53`	`learner`	`I'm not sure, I was so upset ;)`
`00:39.00`	`learner`	`I think it was an anime ref. :)`
`00:39.02`	`Quol`	`hey everyone`
`00:39.09`	`JBDiGriz`	`Hi Q`
`00:40.02`	`JBDiGriz`	`I don't get most of the anime references. I just ask pat for more info each time. :)`
`00:40.34`	`learner`	`Tyrone is pretty obscure.. :)`
`00:40.42`	`learner`	`I had to look that up`
`00:41.20`	`JBDiGriz`	`It's a little obscure, as is JB diGriz. Just think, it gives you a chance to pick up a bit more literature/history just from association. :D`
`00:41.20`	`Quol`	`anyone played on my servers lately? did the "jumpy weird lag" issue go away?`
`00:41.45`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`Hey Quola`
`00:41.48`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`Quol*`
`00:41.55`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`I have`
`00:41.56`	`JBDiGriz`	`It's hard to say, there was a bit of jumpy weird lag last night, but it seemed limited to a couple of players.`
`00:42.13`	`Quol`	`hey sn0w - was it OK? or were there still issues?`
`00:42.31`	`Quol`	`I switched links, so hopefuly it is OK now`
`00:42.56`	`Quol`	`I got another 100Mb/s feed from a new ISP and BGP'd the addresses through it`
`00:52.35`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`sry learner`
`00:52.41`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`Trillian shut down`
`00:54.17`	`*** join/#bzflag \|tim\| (~Tim@ip68-106-184-191.sb.sd.cox.net)`
`00:54.32`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~seen legolas`
`00:54.33`		`legolas <~topgunp38@adsl-68-73-91-25.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 4h 6m 16s ago, saying: 'he can play'.`
`00:54.42`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hi tim`
`00:54.54`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`00:54.59`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`'he can play'`
`00:55.02`	`\|tim\|`	`heya`
`00:55.19`	`Spiff`	`Hullo.`
`00:56.10`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`00:56.13`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hi spiff`
`00:56.22`	`Spiff`	`Yo d0ggy.`
`00:56.24`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`this is Merry`
`00:56.53`	`Spiff`	`Groovacious.`
`00:57.11`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`Toontastic!`
`00:57.21`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`YOu should play Toon Tow spiff`
`00:57.27`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`Chick is gonna check it out`
`00:57.34`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`www.play.toontown.com`
`00:59.33`	`Spiff`	`CooL.`
`00:59.48`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`you get a free 3 day trial`
`00:59.58`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`then you got to buy it :(`
`01:00.06`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`My dad won't buy it`
`01:00.09`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`:*(`
`01:00.39`	`Spiff`	`That sux0rz.`
`01:00.43`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`ya`
`01:00.52`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`My name was Tanya`
`01:01.01`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`There's a person you should watch out for`
`01:01.25`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`his name is Super Fireball Bubbleclash or Blubberclash`
`01:01.30`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`he was my friend`
`01:01.33`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`:)`
`01:01.38`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`He was good too`
`01:01.47`	`Spiff`	`:)`
`01:01.55`	`Bad`	`?`
`01:02.06`	`Bad`	`It is supposed to be bad jeans`
`01:02.11`	`Bad`	`(:(`
`01:02.15`	`Spiff`	`Spaces aren't allowed.`
`01:02.19`	`Spiff`	`Try Bad_Jeans`
`01:02.20`	`Bad`	`(:(`
`01:02.29`	`Bad_Jeans`	`lol`
`01:02.30`	`Bad_Jeans`	`thanks`
`01:02.30`	`Spiff`	`;-)`
`01:02.33`	`Spiff`	`Yw.`
`01:02.38`	`Bad_Jeans`	`yw?`
`01:02.56`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`I like sn0w_d0ggy better`
`01:04.21`	`Spiff`	`Hehehe.`
`01:04.25`	`*** join/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@bgp01036574bgs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net)`
`01:04.30`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hi SGI`
`01:04.34`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`long time no see`
`01:04.35`	`SGI`	`ni all`
`01:04.40`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hi hehee`
`01:04.40`	`SGI`	`good`
`01:04.41`	`Spiff`	`;-)`
`01:04.44`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`01:04.47`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`ruff ruff`
`01:04.48`	`Spiff`	`'lo SGI.`
`01:04.52`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`chomp chomp`
`01:04.58`	`SGI`	`DDD`
`01:05.03`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`DDDDDDDD?`
`01:05.04`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`???`
`01:05.06`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`DDD?`
`01:05.07`	`SGI`	`Tim are you here`
`01:05.10`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hehe`
`01:05.17`	`SGI`	`Dont Drink and Drive`
`01:05.37`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`oh`
`01:05.49`	`SGI`	`TimRiker`
`01:06.09`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`she's prob doing homework`
`01:06.13`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`she's in college`
`01:06.17`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`so is david_V`
`01:06.27`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`he's studying computer stuff`
`01:06.36`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`I talk to much`
`01:06.37`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hehe`
`01:06.50`	`SGI`	`yes be quiete a little second`
`01:06.58`	`\|tim\|`	`is it just me or does anyone feel like he/she talking to himself?`
`01:07.08`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`01:07.11`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`she`
`01:07.28`	`SGI`	`Sn0w M0nkjey`
`01:07.37`	`SGI`	`m0nkey`
`01:07.55`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`I'm Merry`
`01:08.13`	`SGI`	`Hi Merry how are you`
`01:08.16`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`good`
`01:08.24`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lolololololol`
`01:08.38`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`sn0w_elephant`
`01:08.38`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hehehe`
`01:08.39`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hehehe`
`01:08.40`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hehe`
`01:08.43`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hehehe`
`01:09.04`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`Legolas prob' misses you SGI`
`01:09.21`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`At dinner he was talk'in about you and him play'in matches`
`01:09.26`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`:)`
`01:09.47`	`SGI`	`He's a good guy`
`01:10.07`	`SGI`	`you change a lot times your nick`
`01:10.15`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`me?`
`01:10.24`	`SGI`	`the next time will be Mistery Woman`
`01:10.31`	`SGI`	`yes you`
`01:10.41`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`01:10.49`	`Mistery`	`hehehehehehee`
`01:10.53`	`SGI`	`lol`
`01:11.01`	`SGI`	`is better I like it`
`01:11.07`	`\|tim\|`	`minT*`
`01:11.14`	`Mister_Woman`	`play'in 625 Sanwich Stacker`
`01:11.20`	`SGI`	`no thanks`
`01:11.21`	`Mister_Woman`	`http://psc.disney.go.com/disneychannel/liloandstitch/games/sandwichstacker/index.html`
`01:11.35`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hehe`
`01:12.36`	`SGI`	`I dont have anymore the cast`
`01:12.54`	`SGI`	`my hand is free`
`01:13.18`	`SGI`	`I broke my hand a month ago`
`01:13.25`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`oh`
`01:13.32`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`sorry to hear that`
`01:13.34`	`SGI`	`and today.....freeeeeeeeeeeee`
`01:13.52`	`SGI`	`still painful but Im free`
`01:14.06`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`01:14.08`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`poor you`
`01:14.20`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`we have someone in our church just sprained his leg`
`01:14.25`	`SGI`	`Spiff Im going to shoot on xmission`
`01:14.34`	`Spiff`	`:P`
`01:14.34`	`SGI`	`aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhh`
`01:14.37`	`SGI`	`the leg`
`01:14.40`	`Spiff`	`You didn't answer me.`
`01:14.41`	`Spiff`	`:)`
`01:14.52`	`*** join/#bzflag triclops2 (cbro903@bongo10.cse.unsw.EDU.AU)`
`01:15.06`	`Spiff`	`Hullo tri. :)`
`01:15.12`	`triclops2`	`gidday spiff`
`01:15.20`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`what did you ask Spiff?`
`01:15.45`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~seen Legolas`
`01:15.46`		`legolas <~topgunp38@adsl-68-73-91-25.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 4h 27m 29s ago, saying: 'he can play'.`
`01:15.54`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lolololololo`
`01:15.55`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`l`
`01:16.01`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`'he can play' hehehehehehe`
`01:16.12`	`Spiff`	`Nm, sn0w.`
`01:16.13`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~seen Spiff`
`01:16.13`		`spiff is currently on #bzflag (1d 13h 19m 40s). Has said a total of 98 messages. Is idling for 1s`
`01:16.18`	`Spiff`	`'Sup tri? :)`
`01:16.25`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`cool`
`01:16.37`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~seen brlcad`
`01:16.37`		`brlcad <sean@chr160dhcp1509.chrchv01.md.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 23h 22m 49s ago, saying: 'and on that note, I shall head home'.`
`01:16.58`	`triclops2`	`attempting to do a uni assignment due in approx 5 1/2 hours`
`01:17.00`	`Spiff`	`~seen BZSpiff`
`01:17.00`		`bzspiff <BZSpiff@12-222-147-141.client.insightBB.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 38d 1h 33m 7s ago, saying: 'Too much heaven perhaps? Nah. BZ could do with some more sweetness. :-)'.`
`01:17.15`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`01:17.20`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~Merry`
`01:17.22`	`Spiff`	`Wow.. been a while since I used that one.`
`01:17.27`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~seen Merry`
`01:17.27`		`merry <~gig1992@adsl-68-73-91-25.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 44m 11s ago, saying: 'lol'.`
`01:17.34`	`Spiff`	`Procrastination, tri? :D`
`01:17.37`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`01:18.16`	`triclops2`	`Spiff: hehe, been doing that for the last few weeks`
`01:18.40`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`does anyone have Trillian?`
`01:19.09`	`Spiff`	`That's a regular part of my life as well, tri. :)`
`01:19.59`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:19.59`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else`
`01:19.59`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:19.59`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-NickServ- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>`
`01:19.59`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.00`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-orwell.freenode.net- *** Notice -- Too many nick changes; wait 20 seconds before trying again`
`01:20.02`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.04`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`* Your nick is now Bad`
`01:20.06`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.08`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else`
`01:20.10`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.12`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-NickServ- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>`
`01:20.14`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.16`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`* Your nick is now Merry`
`01:20.18`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.20`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else`
`01:20.22`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.24`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-NickServ- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>`
`01:20.26`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.28`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`* Your nick is now sn0w_d0ggy`
`01:20.30`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.32`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`* Your nick is now Bad`
`01:20.34`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.36`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else`
`01:20.38`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.40`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-NickServ- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>`
`01:20.42`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.44`	`bzgirl`	`merry?`
`01:20.44`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`* Your nick is now Bad_Jeans`
`01:20.46`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.48`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`* Your nick is now sn0w_d0ggy`
`01:20.50`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.52`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`* Your nick is now Mistery`
`01:20.54`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:20.56`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-NickServ- This nickname is owned by someone else`
`01:20.58`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:21.00`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-NickServ- If this is your nickname, type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password>`
`01:21.02`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:21.04`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`* Your nick is now Mister_Woman`
`01:21.06`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:21.08`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`* Your nick is now sn0w_d0ggy`
`01:21.10`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`-`
`01:21.12`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`that;s how many times I changed my nick`
`01:21.14`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol tri`
`01:21.16`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`that's`
`01:21.18`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`*`
`01:21.20`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`I'm bored`
`01:21.22`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`yes`
`01:21.26`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`I know I'kk go to homestarruner .com`
`01:23.54`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`I'll*`
`01:25.28`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`http://www.homestarrunner.com/main7.html`
`01:32.26`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~seen bzgurl`
`01:32.27`		`i haven't seen 'bzgurl', sn0w_d0ggy`
`01:32.34`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~seen bzgirl`
`01:32.34`		`bzgirl <~aec@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 11m 50s ago, saying: 'merry?'.`
`01:33.07`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`are you talking ibot?`
`01:33.19`	`Spiff`	`~botsnack`
`01:33.19`		`thanks, Spiff`
`01:33.56`	`*** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~tuckerm@adsl-66-72-30-113.dsl.kntpin.ameritech.net)`
`01:34.41`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`nm`
`01:35.29`	`Spiff`	`Guard your shins, Noodleman. :)`
`01:37.11`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`g2g`
`01:37.12`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`bye`
`01:40.07`	`Spiff`	`LoL`
`01:43.19`	`*** join/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net)`
`01:43.54`	`Spiff`	`:)`
`01:44.48`	`Noodleman`	`~whaleslap Spiff`
`01:44.51`		`ACTION slaps Spiff upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh`
`01:44.51`	`creeperz`	`Lol`
`01:45.06`	`creeperz`	`...`
`01:45.11`	`creeperz`	`I just got dumber`
`01:47.05`	`Noodleman`	`what makes you say that?`
`01:47.27`	`creeperz`	`I just realized I can't lick my elbow and tried to lick my elbow`
`01:47.49`	`Spiff`	`Ummm... why are you attempting to lick your elbow??`
`01:47.53`	`Spiff`	`Or should I ask?`
`01:48.09`	`creeperz`	`To see if I was dumber or not`
`01:49.13`	`creeperz`	`80% of people who were told they couldn't lick their elbow actually try to lick their elbow`
`01:49.45`	`Spiff`	`I wonder if that poll was conducted in a pre-school.`
`01:50.15`	`creeperz`	`It's lkie taht one sudty dnoe by taht one clolege`
`01:50.37`	`Spiff`	`What a descriptive statement.`
`01:50.42`	`creeperz`	`That you`
`01:51.07`	`creeperz`	`thank*`
`01:52.03`	`creeperz`	`Hmm`
`01:52.05`	`*** join/#bzflag bryjen (bryjen@ky-owensboro1a-242.owboky.adelphia.net)`
`01:52.05`	`creeperz`	`Thank you`
`01:54.01`	`Spiff`	`ibot, where are you?`
`01:54.03`		`well, ibot is a blootbot now, no longer an infobot. run by BZFlag (TimRiker) on his server. see blootbot also http://blootbot.sourceforge.net/ it uses SQLite but can use MySQL or other SQL for storage.`
`01:57.17`	`Noodleman`	`i am smedboy taht wulod lcik my ebolw :-)`
`02:03.16`	`Spiff`	`Funny how our minds work that mess out properly. :)`
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`02:16.20`	`triclops2`	`time to relocate myself to another computer`
`02:16.36`	`creeperz`	`Hey, MAC`
`02:16.59`	`MrApathyCream`	`howdy`
`02:17.22`	`Noodleman`	`just cluster those computers and you don't have to make that decision :-)`
`02:18.35`	`MrApathyCream`	`is it shipped?`
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`02:28.15`	`TimRiker`	`ibot: lick your elbow`
`02:28.16`		`no idea, TimRiker`
`02:28.24`	`JBDiGriz`	`heh`
`02:28.38`	`Noodleman`	`ibot: lick your elbow is <action> slurps`
`02:28.39`		`okay, Noodleman`
`02:28.48`	`Noodleman`	`ibot: lick your elbow`
`02:28.49`		`ACTION slurps`
`02:29.06`	`TimRiker`	`ibot: stick your elbow in your ear`
`02:29.07`		`TimRiker: i don't know`
`02:29.15`	`*** join/#bzflag PatLabor221 (~jeffm@adsl-64-173-104-53.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net)`
`02:29.15`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+o PatLabor221] by ChanServ`
`02:29.22`	`Quol`	`ibot fun?`
`02:29.23`		`hmm... fun is irrelevant.`
`02:29.46`	`JBDiGriz`	`you will be assimilated`
`02:29.55`	`Quol`	`indeed`
`02:30.09`	`creeperz`	`Omg, fuckin dipshits`
`02:30.13`	`JBDiGriz`	`so, did you fix that cheat client q ;)`
`02:30.19`	`MrApathyCream`	`ibot, lobotomy`
`02:30.22`		`I feel different somehow.`
`02:30.38`	`PatLabor221`	`what is creeper's problem?`
`02:30.43`	`Quol`	`what is with the morons tonight - coupld on my server before - now creepers`
`02:31.13`	`JBDiGriz`	`the tk's who didn't notice your callsign was the same as the server name, that was funny :D`
`02:31.14`	`Noodleman`	`i've never seen him act like that`
`02:31.39`	`PatLabor221`	`I have, but only when someone tells him to stop doing anoying things`
`02:32.00`	`Quol`	`JBDiGriz: will work with my ISP - obviously the new link didn't work, I have a new link installed from a completely different ISP, will see if it is any better - will through a linux box up there and test it out for this weekend`
`02:32.35`	`Quol`	`it is only a 10Mb/s link though - would be nice to get this box working on the 100Mb :(`
`02:32.47`	`JBDiGriz`	`That was rather amusing, though. ;)`
`02:34.33`	`Quol`	`my favorite is when <what was his name boodledooldle> shot me right in the face when he was on my team - and had the command all ready, he shot and boom he got kicked :O)`
`02:35.22`	`JBDiGriz`	`I was in observer mode, following you at that point. I was laughing my head off when he did that. 8D`
`02:35.47`	`JBDiGriz`	`Sorry about getting annoyed and going into observer, but I don't tolerate idiots well.`
`02:35.53`	`Quol`	`ya - I couldn't belive that...i just waited there to make sure that he really was a tk`
`02:36.10`	`JBDiGriz`	`And there's no reason to play if I'm not having fun.`
`02:36.13`	`Quol`	`that's OK - was he doing it all along - I didn't notice it until he reconnected`
`02:36.39`	`Quol`	`I got a kick out if it though (sorry for the pun )`
`02:36.51`	`JBDiGriz`	`I got really irked when he switched to red and deliberately grabbed the flag and ran it down to green base. I think that's when I went observer.`
`02:37.16`	`Quol`	`ya - that's when I gave him his final warning I think`
`02:37.55`	`Quol`	`it would be nice to customize the commands a little - like give a reason why you were kicked`
`02:38.08`	`Quol`	`like /kick boodledoodle "you are a moron"`
`02:38.18`	`JBDiGriz`	`Pat is more tolerant than I as well. I usually put people on ignore about 5 minutes before he bans them. :)`
`02:38.32`	`Quol`	`nothing important - would just satisfy a need to yell at them :)`
`02:38.45`	`PatLabor221`	`that was a creeper IP`
`02:38.47`	`PatLabor221`	`odd`
`02:38.54`	`PatLabor221`	`I'll bet it was cus I showed up`
`02:39.01`	`PatLabor221`	`he thinks I live to ban him`
`02:39.37`	`JBDiGriz`	`Feel free to ban/kick him anytime. He usually goes on ignore quickly.`
`02:40.02`	`PatLabor221`	`I'd more like to ask what his deal was`
`02:40.12`	`JBDiGriz`	`pat, she's a bot. I know you like anime, but be careful of the bladerunner type behavior. :)`
`02:40.17`	`PatLabor221`	`tho it seems that sillyness ensued with the ibot and the ear thing`
`02:40.24`	`PatLabor221`	`I know it's a bot`
`02:40.28`	`PatLabor221`	`and it logs :)`
`02:40.35`	`PatLabor221`	`and I have access to those logs`
`02:40.48`	`PatLabor221`	`and replicants are organic :)`
`02:43.44`	`SGI`	`hello Im back`
`02:44.33`	`PatLabor221`	`bad prune day?`
`02:44.50`	`SGI`	`ElectricElf`
`02:44.58`	`ElectricElf`	`SGI: Ping`
`02:45.00`	`ElectricElf`	`s/Ping/Pong/`
`02:45.03`	`ElectricElf`	`SGI: What's up?`
`02:45.11`	`SGI`	`I hate you :0)`
`02:45.26`	`SGI`	`all the time you kick my butt`
`02:45.27`	`ElectricElf`	`SGI: Uh-oh ;) Got a URL?`
`02:45.48`	`ElectricElf`	`SGI: Like, a rankings URL? :)`
`02:45.55`	`learner`	`hehe`
`02:45.56`	`ElectricElf`	`SGI: Wondering if I changed the outcome much :)`
`02:46.27`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`The rankings lie`
`02:46.46`	`SGI`	`ElectricElf next time call me before`
`02:46.52`	`ElectricElf`	`SGI: Hehehe`
`02:47.02`	`SGI`	`I hate surprise expecially GM`
`02:50.23`	`PatLabor221`	`GrumpyOldMan or learner, ether of you around?`
`02:50.39`	`PatLabor221`	`heh`
`02:50.51`	`PatLabor221`	`are you at a place where you can cvs to asgard?`
`02:50.58`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`yes`
`02:51.19`	`PatLabor221`	`can you get project24_data\intro\intro.tga and see if it works for you?`
`02:51.27`	`PatLabor221`	`or intro.mp3`
`02:51.44`	`PatLabor221`	`project24_data is a new projet name`
`02:52.12`	`PatLabor221`	`I can't tell if it got added binary or not`
`02:52.23`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`dang backslashes, why can't you winderz programmers learn to use proper directory delimiters.`
`02:52.34`	`PatLabor221`	`sorry`
`02:52.41`	`PatLabor221`	`well for you they would be /`
`02:52.56`	`PatLabor221`	`that's why I use CVS (:`
`02:53.17`	`bryjen`	`eep http://ibot.rikers.org/bzflag/ has something gone awry?`
`02:53.45`	`PatLabor221`	`that looks awry`
`02:53.46`	`Quol`	`I am off for the night - see you all later,...`
`02:54.26`	`bryjen`	`i wonder if thats header.html gzipped`
`02:54.46`	`TimRiker`	`wild...`
`02:55.03`	`SGI`	`Tim there is a guy in your server with 0ms lag`
`02:56.05`	`TimRiker`	`better?`
`02:56.16`	`TimRiker`	`SGI: nice. or is it? ;-)`
`02:56.25`	`bryjen`	`TimRiker: yes`
`02:56.30`	`SGI`	`they complain about it`
`02:56.53`	`SGI`	`can I`
`02:57.44`	`TimRiker`	`bryjen: apache does not decompress a HEADER.html.gz before sending it. ;-)`
`02:57.46`	`MrApathyCream`	`purdy`
`02:58.12`	`TimRiker`	`MrApathyCream: bryjen wrote it. thank him. ;-)`
`02:58.19`	`bryjen`	`is compression of that file really necessary?`
`02:58.27`	`*** join/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net)`
`02:58.35`	`SGI`	`cheater in your server tim ..they cant kill him`
`02:58.52`	`TimRiker`	`~xmission`
`02:58.58`	`SGI`	`yes`
`02:59.04`	`SGI`	`foobar`
`02:59.11`	`SGI`	`nickname foobar`
`02:59.24`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`Why do they believe they're really anonymous?`
`02:59.29`	`TimRiker`	`bryjen: no, just my daily script compressed it my default. I added a regex to stop it.`
`02:59.59`	`*** part/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net)`
`03:00.05`	`bryjen`	`automation being too helpful ;)`
`03:00.49`	`*** join/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net)`
`03:05.20`	`MrApathyCream`	`wow schwartzenegger wins`
`03:05.45`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`Already? the polls just closed 5 minutes ago.`
`03:05.59`	`learner`	`Heh. News is reporting him Govenor now :)`
`03:06.05`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`03:06.10`	`PatLabor221`	`countrys have like 28 days to count`
`03:06.12`	`MrApathyCream`	`projection`
`03:06.16`	`PatLabor221`	`and all the absentie`
`03:06.20`	`MrApathyCream`	`exit polls`
`03:06.26`	`learner`	`They say official count is due Wednesday`
`03:06.34`	`Noodleman`	`he won because he's not a politician, and everyone thinks they know him from the movies`
`03:06.38`	`PatLabor221`	`CNN does show 59%yeah for a recall`
`03:07.00`	`PatLabor221`	`opp back down to 52% against`
`03:07.17`	`PatLabor221`	`it's kiinda neat to see it update in real time :)`
`03:07.17`	`Noodleman`	`i hope he'll do a good job; i didn't watch the debate`
`03:07.18`	`Noodleman`	`but i hear it was crazy :-)`
`03:08.00`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`52% against, and they're predicting it will pass. weird.`
`03:08.28`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`The recall of Schwartenegger has already been started. I hate politics.`
`03:08.28`	`Noodleman`	`that's politics :-)`
`03:09.08`	`MrApathyCream`	`ah, he'll be back!`
`03:09.16`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`03:09.32`	`Noodleman`	`'hasta la vista, davy'`
`03:09.44`	`MrApathyCream`	`hey, noodle it's time you come up with new t-shirt graphics`
`03:09.52`	`PatLabor221`	`hey ya never know, he could do good`
`03:09.57`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`60,000 votes and they're already predicting the results.`
`03:10.10`	`PatLabor221`	`that's the media for ya :)`
`03:10.16`	`Noodleman`	`my new G4 will be coming in a few days`
`03:10.20`	`PatLabor221`	`gotta have something to show the humans`
`03:10.28`	`Noodleman`	`then i'll install photoshop on it an make a new t-shirt`
`03:10.34`	`PatLabor221`	`it's back to 54% yeah`
`03:10.48`	`Noodleman`	`which channel are you watching? cnn?`
`03:10.54`	`PatLabor221`	`.com`
`03:10.56`	`MrApathyCream`	`i want a 'Flag Farmer' theme (tank in a sea of flags...`
`03:11.01`	`PatLabor221`	`just hit refesh :)`
`03:11.02`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`Well pat, I don't think we'll be getting any breaks on energy anytime soon.`
`03:11.20`	`MrApathyCream`	`i forgot you guys are ca-ers`
`03:11.34`	`PatLabor221`	`you mean I can still make a bundle selling back the power from my nuke plant?`
`03:12.04`	`MrApathyCream`	`so TimRiker, are we any closer to a ship date?`
`03:12.09`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`No, they'll pass a law which doesn't allow you to sell any back. You either use it yourself, or lose it to the grid.`
`03:12.48`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`You aren't a large energy corp, so you aren't allowed to make money.`
`03:12.51`	`PatLabor221`	`I think that law is federal`
`03:13.12`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`Doublecheck it,`
`03:13.21`	`PatLabor221`	`perhaps you should just change your nick to BitterOldMan`
`03:13.35`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`Same thing`
`03:13.45`	`PatLabor221`	`you can be grumpy and not bitter :)`
`03:13.53`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`We'll be going through this again in about 6 mos.`
`03:14.18`	`PatLabor221`	`then it's time to work on the lanch vehicles`
`03:15.39`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`The casinos will finance the petition this time, and we'll have a jolly old time with more political ads.`
`03:16.48`	`PatLabor221`	`then you got time to convince your friends to change there minds`
`03:16.58`	`*** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-226-70.dialup.innercite.com)`
`03:17.08`	`MrApathyCream`	`hey dt`
`03:17.13`	`DTRemenak`	`hello`
`03:17.33`	`PatLabor221`	`GrumpyOldMan did you get a chance to try that file?`
`03:17.33`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`Another victim of the circus, hey there.`
`03:17.45`	`MrApathyCream`	`Playstation X?`
`03:17.54`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`It takes a while to dl 7MB of MP3, and it's going slow.`
`03:18.00`	`PatLabor221`	`the first playstation was called the PSX`
`03:18.14`	`MrApathyCream`	`releasing a new one`
`03:18.18`	`MrApathyCream`	`$700`
`03:18.19`	`PatLabor221`	`yes`
`03:18.40`	`PatLabor221`	`PS2 with net, HD, and video recorder in it`
`03:18.44`	`PatLabor221`	`will sell for crap`
`03:18.54`	`PatLabor221`	`just like the panasonic cube will`
`03:19.20`	`PatLabor221`	`the PSP is more ineresting to me`
`03:19.28`	`PatLabor221`	`as well as the palm game unit`
`03:20.41`	`PatLabor221`	`I don't even thing the PS3 has ram that will fit it's spec`
`03:23.28`	`MrApathyCream`	`t - 0`
`03:23.53`	`PatLabor221`	`so you'r confident all the new features work as they should?`
`03:24.20`	`MrApathyCream`	`ummm, sure!!!`
`03:24.33`	`PatLabor221`	`I can just see you oozing confidence`
`03:24.59`	`PatLabor221`	`since no actual users have tested the new theif changes I find that hard to belive`
`03:25.23`	`MrApathyCream`	`well, it's unlikely that anyone ever will, or anyother feature for that matter`
`03:25.26`	`MrApathyCream`	`so we have a choice`
`03:25.38`	`MrApathyCream`	`wait forever, or ship and fix things if they show up`
`03:25.45`	`PatLabor221`	`if it builds on all plats I would say make another beta, this time an RC`
`03:25.46`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`asgard is not sending any more data, but it's not complete`
`03:26.09`	`PatLabor221`	`hmmm`
`03:26.12`	`PatLabor221`	`try the tga`
`03:26.14`	`PatLabor221`	`it's a lot smaller`
`03:26.53`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`Maybe it's done with the file, and cvs is having a hard time finishing.`
`03:27.46`	`PatLabor221`	`someone is testing somethign mac, they found the theif bug`
`03:27.48`	`MrApathyCream`	`what will we do with this release candidate?`
`03:28.00`	`MrApathyCream`	`anomoly`
`03:28.17`	`PatLabor221`	`then if we ship and it is crap, you get everyone to update`
`03:28.19`	`PatLabor221`	`and it's crap`
`03:28.29`	`PatLabor221`	`then they lose faith`
`03:28.36`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`iTunes is playing it.`
`03:28.41`	`PatLabor221`	`then they just crap out the entire servers`
`03:28.45`	`PatLabor221`	`and the thing dies`
`03:28.53`	`MrApathyCream`	`how would we tell?`
`03:29.00`	`MrApathyCream`	`did anyone download the beta?`
`03:29.05`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`~bzflist`
`03:29.09`	`PatLabor221`	`dono, nidhoger should have stats`
`03:29.27`	`PatLabor221`	`but you got about 200 views of the page on BZBB`
`03:29.37`	`PatLabor221`	`so I'm betting some downloaded it.`
`03:29.38`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`60 players and 49 sites, it looks like it's doing fairly well for this time of the day.`
`03:29.56`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`We could tell, because admins stay at 1.7 or we don't have any players.`
`03:30.11`	`MrApathyCream`	`200 views, 198 eh, i wait till release, 1 maybe later, 1 download, arg no diskspace`
`03:30.44`	`PatLabor221`	`actualy you won't tag and build, so it dosn't matter :)`
`03:31.11`	`MrApathyCream`	`yup`
`03:31.17`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`We need a message for the 1.7 server list which notify people to update their clients.`
`03:31.18`	`MrApathyCream`	`not my call`
`03:31.35`	`MrApathyCream`	`or just remove support for 1.7 from list server :)`
`03:31.37`	`PatLabor221`	`how can we change 1.7?`
`03:32.00`	`PatLabor221`	`that is up to the list server admin`
`03:32.03`	`TheGovernator`	`set up a server that puts an upgrade message in the radar`
`03:32.06`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`We need something which responds on the server list with a message to update.`
`03:32.20`	`PatLabor221`	`how could you do that? does the client know to accept that message?`
`03:32.22`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`intro.mp3 played`
`03:32.28`	`PatLabor221`	`cool, thanks`
`03:32.28`	`DTRemenak`	`write a script that logs into any server on the list and broadcasts a message to connected players, and /reports it`
`03:32.29`	`SGI`	`time to sleep`
`03:32.32`	`TimRiker`	`run a ton of 1.7 servers that have 1 minute game times. ;-)`
`03:32.34`	`SGI`	`good nite`
`03:33.12`	`SGI`	`bye bye`
`03:33.16`	`PatLabor221`	`well it builds on windows, how is linux and the 'tosh?`
`03:33.19`	`*** part/#bzflag SGI (~SGI@bgp01036574bgs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net)`
`03:33.22`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`The client displays the information that the server list hands to it. It then displays the information that a server gives it. That's where we put the info.`
`03:33.41`	`MrApathyCream`	`GrumpyOldMan, yup that would work`
`03:33.45`	`MrApathyCream`	`hijack the server info`
`03:34.04`	`TimRiker`	`GrumpyOldMan: true. the old bzfls could add a bunch of fake 1.7 server entries for old clients.`
`03:34.18`	`MrApathyCream`	`server 33.24.25.34: This server stinks: try a real 1.9 server somewhere else`
`03:34.21`	`TimRiker`	`with 1000 players so the message is on top.`
`03:34.30`	`PatLabor221`	`then lets do a RC, while you all figure out how to implement that`
`03:34.36`	`TimRiker`	`heh`
`03:35.01`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`Let's test the current build first.`
`03:35.06`	`TimRiker`	`I still think there are udp startup issues with 1.9`
`03:35.15`	`PatLabor221`	`that's what I mean by a RC test build`
`03:35.18`	`PatLabor221`	`a 1.9.6`
`03:35.47`	`PatLabor221`	`I'll bump and tag if everyone tells me that it builds.`
`03:36.07`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`I'm updating sources.`
`03:36.10`	`MrApathyCream`	`builds on windoz`
`03:36.18`	`PatLabor221`	`this I know`
`03:36.23`	`PatLabor221`	`I'm more concerned about the other 2`
`03:37.12`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`No makefile changes, so I'm not bothering with a make clean`
`03:38.44`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`built, I'll be on brlcad testing for a sec`
`03:39.11`	`MrApathyCream`	`meet ya there`
`03:39.25`	`EarlGrey`	`Wow, I get a surprising number of bad indices`
`03:41.16`	`TimRiker`	`~bzflist`
`03:41.44`	`TimRiker`	ServerLink.cxx:143: `EINPROGRESS' undeclared (first use this function)
`03:42.12`	`PatLabor221`	`so I guess no it does not build on linux`
`03:45.55`	`EarlGrey`	`Keerrash`
`03:46.14`	`EarlGrey`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:46.14`	`EarlGrey`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:46.14`	`EarlGrey`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:46.14`	`EarlGrey`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:46.18`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`That seems to work, except that it dropped a flag I stole again, and the server crashed.`
`03:46.34`	`MrApathyCream`	`Tupone change i think`
`03:46.39`	`EarlGrey`	`that's the same other crash from yesterday`
`03:46.44`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`Doing a clean build`
`03:47.35`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`cvs thinks it's still connected to asgard.`
`03:47.38`	`PatLabor221`	`tell ya what, lets not rush it`
`03:47.42`	`PatLabor221`	`eww`
`03:48.12`	`PatLabor221`	`how bout we wait till tomrow, so everyone can get there crashes, and build issues fixed`
`03:49.37`	`PatLabor221`	`I think quality of release needs to be very important this time, as a lot of people had a bad exp with g2`
`03:50.11`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`Who had a bad experience with g2? People are still using it.`
`03:50.32`	`PatLabor221`	`most of the servers are running patched versions`
`03:50.40`	`PatLabor221`	`reemmber all the bugs and exploits`
`03:50.44`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`The only complaints I heard were the user interface and colors.`
`03:50.46`	`PatLabor221`	`and the bitching about the hud`
`03:51.14`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`I'm getting senile, I can't remember these things anymore.`
`03:51.35`	`MrApathyCream`	`well i guess the flagdesc is null`
`03:52.23`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (ServerLink.cxx): errno.h`
`03:55.56`	`TimRiker`	`xmission:5154 ?`
`03:56.37`	`TimRiker`	`~nslookup rikers.org`
`03:56.59`	`CIA`	`03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): protect against null flag`
`03:57.00`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`It's a wise man who knows his own IP address. ;)`
`04:00.17`	`MrApathyCream`	`hmmm, now it's not compiling`
`04:00.18`	`TimRiker`	`bzflag still tried to do dns after getting ip address from bzfls. dies for me here behind a http proxy fw.`
`04:00.21`	`MrApathyCream`	`in learner code`
`04:00.41`	`MrApathyCream`	`commands.cxx`
`04:00.42`	`MrApathyCream`	`E:\bz\bz_cvs\bzflag\src\bzfs\commands.cxx(1098) : error C2562: 'handlePollCmd' : 'void' function returning a value`
`04:00.42`	`MrApathyCream`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:00.42`	`MrApathyCream`	`E:\bz\bz_cvs\bzflag\src\bzfs\commands.cxx(1103) : error C2562: 'handlePollCmd' : 'void' function returning a value`
`04:00.42`	`MrApathyCream`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:01.20`	`TimRiker`	`waits forever if it can't connect. hangs much worse than before.`
`04:01.43`	`TimRiker`	`hmm.. might be a proxy issue...`
`04:02.31`	`MrApathyCream`	`earlgrey?`
`04:04.36`	`TimRiker`	`~bzflist`
`04:05.14`	`TimRiker`	`~nslookup brlcad.org`
`04:05.14`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`mac version built with the server changes`
`04:05.20`	`*** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-226-70.dialup.innercite.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]`
`04:05.20`	`*** join/#bzflag triclops2 (cbro903@gong16.orchestra.cse.unsw.EDU.AU) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]`
`04:05.20`	`*** join/#bzflag DB7654321 (~DB7654321@atlnga1-ar2-4-33-115-228.atlnga1.dsl-verizon.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]`
`04:05.20`	`*** join/#bzflag EarlGrey (sean@chr160dhcp1509.chrchv01.md.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM]`
`04:05.20`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+bbb jeff!@.dip.t-dialin.net !edelstei@ !@68.111.116.228] by orwell.freenode.net`
`04:05.20`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+bbb cell!@ !@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net sussudio!@] by orwell.freenode.net`
`04:05.20`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+b gorb!@] by orwell.freenode.net`
`04:05.27`	`*** join/#bzflag DTRemenak_ (~DTRemenak@host-226-70.dialup.innercite.com)`
`04:05.38`	`MrApathyCream`	`EarlGrey: you there?`
`04:06.01`	`EarlGrey`	`eh?`
`04:06.07`	`*** join/#bzflag DB7654321 (~DB7654321@atlnga1-ar2-4-33-115-228.atlnga1.dsl-verizon.net)`
`04:06.25`	`MrApathyCream`	`did you see my compile errors?`
`04:06.27`	`MrApathyCream`	`in bzfs`
`04:06.40`	`MrApathyCream`	`concerning handlPollCmd?`
`04:06.51`	`EarlGrey`	`new server up now`
`04:06.52`	`MrApathyCream`	`did something get stomped on?`
`04:07.01`	`EarlGrey`	`negative`
`04:07.06`	`EarlGrey`	`everything builds okay`
`04:07.23`	`EarlGrey`	`and is up to date`
`04:07.24`	`MrApathyCream`	`really?`
`04:07.26`	`MrApathyCream`	`hmmm`
`04:07.33`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`Looks like mac server and client is building and running.`
`04:07.33`	`MrApathyCream`	`maybe i should delete commands.cxx and try again`
`04:07.34`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): server.example.com:port`
`04:09.41`	`MrApathyCream`	`EarlGrey, you're not getting this?`
`04:09.42`	`MrApathyCream`	`E:\bz\bz_cvs\bzflag\src\bzfs\commands.cxx(1098) : error C2562: 'handlePollCmd' : 'void' function returning a value`
`04:09.42`	`MrApathyCream`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:09.42`	`MrApathyCream`	`E:\bz\bz_cvs\bzflag\src\bzfs\commands.cxx(1103) : error C2562: 'handlePollCmd' : 'void' function returning a value`
`04:09.42`	`MrApathyCream`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:09.48`	`TimRiker`	`_flagRadius = 10473.90 acc/sec <- ouch`
`04:10.19`	`EarlGrey`	`must be a warning, lemme check`
`04:10.57`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`I'm glad I don't see "E:\" on my macintosh. The only warnings are related to library build issues.`
`04:11.14`	`MrApathyCream`	`thats odd`
`04:11.28`	`MrApathyCream`	`i have`
`04:11.28`	`MrApathyCream`	`void handlePollCmd(int t, const char *message)`
`04:11.45`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`Yeah, using a '\' as a directory delimiter is definitely odd.`
`04:12.02`	`MrApathyCream`	`but there is a`
`04:12.03`	`MrApathyCream`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:12.06`	`MrApathyCream`	`in the function`
`04:12.38`	`EarlGrey`	`I'm commiting a fix`
`04:12.42`	`MrApathyCream`	`k`
`04:13.22`	`CIA`	`03brlcad * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (commands.cxx): make msvc shut up`
`04:14.14`	`EarlGrey`	`I am getting SLEWS of Player ShiteHead [0] 0.0000 0.0000 0.0000 tried to grab distant flag ... ... ...`
`04:14.24`	`TimRiker`	`flagRadius = 10797.15 acc/sec`
`04:14.43`	`MrApathyCream`	`EarlGrey, ok that fixed it`
`04:14.47`	`MrApathyCream`	`Tim what's that?`
`04:14.56`	`TimRiker`	`EarlGrey: udp issues.`
`04:15.10`	`EarlGrey`	`the 0 0 0 position seems wrong`
`04:15.35`	`TimRiker`	`is wrong. no udp set, but server assumes it is, or perhaps player assumes.`
`04:15.35`	`MrApathyCream`	`oh, flagRadius is huge on brlcad?`
`04:16.02`	`TimRiker`	`no. local player sees non-0,0,0 but server does not get pu packets cause of wrong udp.`
`04:16.29`	`TimRiker`	`brb`
`04:16.44`	`MrApathyCream`	`hmm 2.5`
`04:17.08`	`MrApathyCream`	`time to feed the horsies... bbiab`
`04:22.28`	`EarlGrey`	`still, fyi`
`04:24.28`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`~bzflist`
`04:24.57`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`People are going to bed early tonight.`
`04:27.46`	`TheGovernator`	`WWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE UP!!!`
`04:27.56`	`DTRemenak`	`why?`
`04:28.07`	`TheGovernator`	`just 'cuz :-)`
`04:28.52`	`Spiff`	`Uh oh. Noodleman gets 22" biceps.. and all of the sudden he's The Governator. ;-)`
`04:29.44`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): must fix udp issues`
`04:29.58`	`Spiff`	`WOW!`
`04:29.59`	`Spiff`	`LoL`
`04:30.03`	`TheGovernator`	`haha`
`04:30.12`	`TheGovernator`	`ph33r the 3v1l blubber`
`04:31.03`	`Spiff`	`Hmmm. B\|u883r?`
`04:31.11`	`TheGovernator`	`i suppose`
`04:31.12`	`TheGovernator`	`:-)`
`04:31.12`	`Spiff`	`8\|u883r that is. ;)`
`04:31.40`	`PatLabor221`	`'no now, no l33t here`
`04:31.44`	`PatLabor221`	`this isn't undernet`
`04:32.22`	`TheGovernator`	`how come you're always knocking undernet? are they that bad?`
`04:32.27`	`Spiff`	`evil voice What's l33t, precious?`
`04:32.27`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`teacher, teacher you can bet, i see someone's undernet ;)`
`04:32.45`	`TheGovernator`	`i don't know, never been on undernet`
`04:33.16`	`Spiff`	`Umm.. forgive the newbieism... but what is undernet?`
`04:33.24`	`TheGovernator`	`i've been on efnet, that's certainly not like freenode :-)`
`04:33.31`	`TheGovernator`	`undernet is another irc network`
`04:33.47`	`Spiff`	`Ohhhhh... I get it.`
`04:33.51`	`TheGovernator`	`freenode is a network, so are ircnet, undernet, efnet, etc.`
`04:36.02`	`TimRiker`	`oftc ... ;-)`
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`04:36.33`	`MrApathyCream`	`back`
`04:37.46`	`TimRiker`	`~lart TheGovernator`
`04:37.50`	`TheGovernator`	`hehe`
`04:37.56`	`TheGovernator`	`:-)`
`04:38.31`	`GrumpyOldMan`	`Harrumph`
`04:41.39`	`TheGovernator`	`cheese and creammmmmm.....`
`04:41.56`	`PatLabor221`	`Tea, and Cake or DEATH!!!!!`
`04:42.06`	`TheGovernator`	`that's OK too :-)`
`04:42.15`	`PatLabor221`	`and we are out of cake`
`04:43.04`	`TheGovernator`	`that reminds me of a dilbert cartoon where the evil HR director tells dilbert that he needs to fill out a form or lose his vacation days`
`04:43.12`	`TheGovernator`	`then he says they are out of forms`
`04:43.41`	`TimRiker`	`~lart MrApathyCream for considering new features`
`04:43.53`	`TheGovernator`	`hehe`
`04:44.02`	`TimRiker`	`~fishslap MrApathyCream for considering new features`
`04:44.05`		`ACTION slaps MrApathyCream up side the head with a wet fish for considering new features`
`04:44.09`	`PatLabor221`	`mac why don't you branch, then you can ship what ever you want`
`04:44.14`	`MrApathyCream`	`well.... your adding them, i was just following along`
`04:44.26`	`TimRiker`	`whois?`
`04:44.29`	`MrApathyCream`	`youis`
`04:44.34`	`TimRiker`	`meisnot`
`04:44.35`	`TheGovernator`	`hehe`
`04:44.49`	`MrApathyCream`	`* fix TCP/UDP negotiation for fw'ed clients to handle:`
`04:44.49`	`MrApathyCream`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:44.49`	`MrApathyCream`	`<PROTECTED>`
`04:45.03`	`MrApathyCream`	`nice prose btw`
`04:45.25`	`TimRiker`	`yes. it is more broken in 1.9 than 1.7 was. hence a BUG, not a feature.`
`04:45.42`	`MrApathyCream`	`did it ever work?`
`04:45.59`	`TimRiker`	`worked better in 1.7, yes.`
`04:46.07`	`MrApathyCream`	`'better', chuckle`
`04:47.42`	`MrApathyCream`	`ibot, i DO use Outlook express, btw`
`04:47.43`		`MrApathyCream: I wish you would RTFM.`
`04:47.51`	`MrApathyCream`	`no need, it's windows`
`04:50.00`	`MrApathyCream`	`ibot, go rebuild your kernel`
`04:50.01`		`MrApathyCream: have you tried http://www.tldp.org/ ?`
`04:55.10`	`creeperz`	`Well, I'mma go to bed`
`04:55.15`	`creeperz`	`Try to sleep it all off`
`04:55.18`	`creeperz`	`See yu`
`04:55.18`	`TheGovernator`	`l8r`
`04:55.26`	`MrApathyCream`	`seega`
`05:08.44`	`EarlGrey`	`Tim: admin is sadmin`
`05:09.41`	`MrApathyCream`	`off to bed`
`05:14.03`	`TimRiker`	`EarlGrey: can you add playerlist to registered?`
`05:14.26`	`PatLabor221`	`as the default?`
`05:14.40`	`EarlGrey`	`I "could", but then won't I need to define all of the groups`
`05:15.28`	`PatLabor221`	`you only need to define the groups you want to overide`
`05:15.36`	`EarlGrey`	`It would be nice if there was a default groups file with the default groups in them (that perhaps is stored in ~/.bzf and used)`
`05:15.51`	`PatLabor221`	`why?`
`05:15.57`	`EarlGrey`	`make it explicit what the defaults are and how to override them`
`05:16.10`	`PatLabor221`	`you overide them by making a group with what you want`
`05:16.30`	`EarlGrey`	`but i don't know what the defaults are`
`05:16.36`	`PatLabor221`	`man bzfs :)`
`05:16.43`	`EarlGrey`	`pffft! :)`
`05:16.46`	`PatLabor221`	`we did doc it`
`05:17.47`	`PatLabor221`	`you did doc your changes when you added the default "registerd" group right?`
`05:19.56`	`EarlGrey`	`there was no source comment or developer doc that informed me do such a task :P`
`05:20.16`	`EarlGrey`	`Heck, didn't even know that is in the manual page`
`05:35.18`	`TimRiker`	`PatLabor221: no, on his server...`
`05:36.22`	`TimRiker`	`PatLabor221: but when you create a new file and override a group you might remove permissions that were there before without realizing it.`
`05:36.47`	`*** join/#bzflag terras (~hustvedt@h00a0cc76ff02.ne.client2.attbi.com)`
`05:37.10`	`CIA`	`03brlcad * 12bzflag/man (bzfs.6s): added /poll /vote /veto groups permissions and command usage details`
`05:37.44`	`*** part/#bzflag terras (~hustvedt@h00a0cc76ff02.ne.client2.attbi.com)`
`05:38.07`	`TimRiker`	`oh, and what's with the ALL UPPER CASE? ;-)`
`05:38.27`	`EarlGrey`	`where?`
`05:38.33`	`TimRiker`	`in the db files`
`05:38.45`	`learner`	`dunno`
`05:39.23`	`learner`	`I turned on the groupdb file, by the way, if there is a way to modify that beast from within`
`05:42.07`	`PatLabor221`	`huh? who what? I was in the bath`
`05:43.00`	`learner`	`And now that I read the manpage, my idea makes more sense to me. If one wanted to override the DEFAULT group, you'd like to know what is in there already to just make the delta you want (perhaps no lagstas for example).`
`05:43.43`	`PatLabor221`	`you should be able to make the groups in any case, as they are converted to caps as they are read`
`05:45.08`	`learner`	`+- would be better than present, but it still requires me to know what is and is not in whichever groups we're shipping in release X.Y.Z`
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`05:54.33`	`learner`	`ol� tupone`
`05:54.53`	`Tupone`	`hi Sean`
`05:55.21`	`Tupone`	`just wake-up`
`05:55.47`	`learner`	`it's almost my bedtime`
`05:56.03`	`learner`	`but I'm having too much fun with a singleton tempalte`
`05:56.04`	`TimRiker`	`learner, not really. with +- you would just need to know the ones you want to change.`
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`05:57.00`	`Tupone`	`which singleton?`
`05:57.13`	`learner`	`TimRiker: but after N releases, for example, you might have no clue whats in what group, requiring you to explicitly -+ everything`
`05:57.29`	`learner`	`it'd work, but would be annoying`
`05:57.48`	`learner`	`Tupone: a template class so that they are all doing the same thing`
`05:58.35`	`Tupone`	`yeah, I know what singleton is, if singleton came from go4`
`05:59.17`	`learner`	`go4?`
`05:59.26`	`Tupone`	`gang of four`
`05:59.47`	`learner`	`ah, yes yes`
`06:00.11`	`learner`	`just an implementation of the basic pattern`
`06:00.20`	`learner`	`contemplating whether to bother making it thread safe`
`06:00.45`	`learner`	`since nothing else in bz is`
`06:01.19`	`Tupone`	`I found 2 way to implement. 1 fully static, without any problem of thread (I hope) but with depenedency problem`
`06:02.02`	`Tupone`	`the other way, object create dynamically, with mutex for thread`
`06:02.39`	`Tupone`	`I take ideas from Thinking in C++`
`06:08.28`	`learner`	`I think I'll allow for the definition of a Multithreaded threaded model policy, but only define a single-threaded policy`
`06:10.38`	`Tupone`	`I'm going to work. Think you're going to bed. Bye`
`06:11.01`	`*** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-82-84-99-56.cust-adsl.tiscali.it)`
`06:16.59`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): ws`
`06:17.44`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (ServerLink.h): -usendfd, ws`
`06:18.16`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (ServerLink.cxx): udp prep`
`06:18.36`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/include (Protocol.h): unused`
`06:19.02`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/doc (protocol.txt): doc some`
`06:19.51`	`TimRiker`	`learner: /groupperms will tell you what's there.`
`06:27.52`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): it's a request`
`07:23.52`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): FIXMEs`
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`07:24.17`	`bomber`	`moin...g night :o)`
`07:25.13`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (2 files): simplify`
`07:25.59`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (ServerLink.cxx): simplify, MsgUDPLinkEstablished over udp\!`
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`07:34.29`	`CIA`	`03brlcad * 12bzflag/include (Singleton.h): Initial Singleton template class. Huzzah! Allows for policy-based control on how an object is created and destroyed. Provides a default threading model interface for implementing multithread-protected singletons.`
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`07:35.46`	`CIA`	`03brlcad * 12bzflag/include (Makefile.am): added Singleton.h`
`07:36.48`	`learner`	`Wee.. way past my bedtime`
`07:49.05`	`Spiff`	`Tsk, tsk, learner. :)`
`07:49.45`	`captain_proton`	`http://www.yodaboys.com/monkusbeaver.html`
`07:52.44`	`learner`	`Go monkus beaverus!`
`07:53.00`	`learner`	`huzzah! hiyaa!`
`07:53.02`	`PatLabor221`	`shoulin beaver ROCKS!`
`07:53.35`	`PatLabor221`	`chick link was kinda neat too`
`07:53.45`	`learner`	`which?`
`07:54.11`	`PatLabor221`	`http://www.yodaboys.com/zelda.html`
`07:54.18`	`captain_proton`	`PatLabor221: yep`
`07:54.24`	`captain_proton`	`would be better without the lens flare`
`07:54.38`	`captain_proton`	`its neat to look at his art and see the progression`
`07:54.40`	`PatLabor221`	`he's a rather good artist`
`07:54.43`	`PatLabor221`	`yeah`
`07:54.53`	`PatLabor221`	`I did like coffie zombie as well`
`07:55.00`	`PatLabor221`	`with the pencel stuck in hand`
`07:55.22`	`captain_proton`	`i think i missed that one`
`07:55.28`	`PatLabor221`	`http://www.yodaboys.com/zombieboy.html`
`07:56.25`	`PatLabor221`	`his rendition of CTS does look a bit odd`
`07:56.46`	`captain_proton`	`well`
`07:56.50`	`captain_proton`	`it doesn't look much like gabe`
`07:56.55`	`captain_proton`	`but its a nice picture anyway`
`07:57.03`	`PatLabor221`	`yeah but his nose is odd`
`07:57.17`	`PatLabor221`	`he does have very good technique`
`07:57.24`	`learner`	`His computer ones aren't near as good as his hand-drawn ones`
`07:57.37`	`PatLabor221`	`that is often the case for most artitsts`
`07:57.43`	`PatLabor221`	`scaners are your friend :)`
`07:58.13`	`PatLabor221`	`the top one is by background`
`07:58.15`	`PatLabor221`	`I like it a lot`
`07:58.24`	`PatLabor221`	`tho she does have manly knees`
`07:58.25`	`learner`	`Nice D'Argo`
`07:58.40`	`PatLabor221`	`yeah,`
`07:58.47`	`PatLabor221`	`his linework on this one is great`
`07:58.47`	`PatLabor221`	`http://www.yodaboys.com/cotssketches.html`
`07:59.30`	`learner`	`good nicht all`
`07:59.35`	`PatLabor221`	`see ja`
`08:01.07`	`PatLabor221`	`I gotta find shoulin bunny form for cap`
`08:01.36`	`captain_proton`	`samurai bunny you mean?`
`08:01.42`	`PatLabor221`	`no`
`08:01.48`	`PatLabor221`	`it's from a difrent thing`
`08:02.36`	`captain_proton`	`ah`
`08:06.46`	`PatLabor221`	`hmmm well seems its not on the site anymore`
`08:06.50`	`PatLabor221`	`but I have it at work`
`08:06.52`	`PatLabor221`	`I will send to you`
`08:06.54`	`PatLabor221`	`it's funny`
`08:07.55`	`captain_proton`	`hmm, i should go to bed`
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`13:11.32`	`larsl`	`Ah, someone has stolen my name. I thought I had been banned.`
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`14:36.24`	`[dmp]`	`hoxu\|uni, i have no idea, but did you try http://www.shellshock.dutchrai.com/maps-ctf.htm - could be one of them`
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`14:51.09`		`i haven't seen 'larls', Bagheera`
`14:51.24`	`Bagheera`	`~seen larsl`
`14:51.24`		`larsl <~larsl@c213-100-62-55.swipnet.se> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1h 39m 52s ago, saying: 'Ah, someone has stolen my name. I thought I had been banned.'.`
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`15:12.59`	`Nidhoggr`	`I need to finally get a 1.9 server running.`
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`15:13.28`	`[dmp]`	`hi Big B`
`15:13.35`	`Big_Barrel`	`hey man :)`
`15:13.40`	`Big_Barrel`	`how you doing?`
`15:14.04`	`[dmp]`	`doning fine`
`15:14.10`	`Big_Barrel`	`good, good`
`15:14.19`	`[dmp]`	`waiting for a download to finish, so i cna begin reading about agents`
`15:14.37`	`Big_Barrel`	`ah cool`
`15:14.50`	`Big_Barrel`	`i am working on some web space on my server`
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`15:14.58`	`Big_Barrel`	`hey bomber :)`
`15:15.03`	`bomber`	`hey BB`
`15:15.10`	`Big_Barrel`	`how you doing?`
`15:15.11`	`[dmp]`	`cool :)`
`15:15.20`	`Big_Barrel`	`yep`
`15:15.26`	`bomber`	`i hate admins....bad connection`
`15:15.36`	`Big_Barrel`	`i have been reading up on cgi and perl the last few weeks`
`15:16.03`	`Big_Barrel`	`want to impliment it in the pages i am working on`
`15:16.15`	`Big_Barrel`	`bomber: why you hate admins?`
`15:16.24`	`Big_Barrel`	`they have bad connection?`
`15:17.25`	`bomber`	`our subnetwork is working properly...but when i ping gateway......too bad....loosing packets`
`15:17.49`	`Big_Barrel`	`ah, so you aren't talking about BZ`
`15:17.51`	`Big_Barrel`	`hehe`
`15:18.03`	`bomber`	`:o))`
`15:18.13`	`Big_Barrel`	`i saw something like that yestarday with a client`
`15:18.27`	`Big_Barrel`	`he is running internet through a satalite connection`
`15:18.33`	`Big_Barrel`	`it really sucks`
`15:18.42`	`bomber`	`:o)))`
`15:18.51`	`Big_Barrel`	`nslookup won't work`
`15:19.00`	`Big_Barrel`	`yet you can ping servers`
`15:19.13`	`Big_Barrel`	`dmp: lmao don't look yet my friend`
`15:19.15`	`Big_Barrel`	`nlol`
`15:19.25`	`Big_Barrel`	`i feel embarassed`
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`15:19.56`	`Big_Barrel`	`dmp you can see my perl cgi script it you go to :: http://www.kelsoes.com/teamnames.html`
`15:19.56`	`bomber`	`you know ...when the semester is at the beginning....connection goes worse`
`15:20.21`	`bomber`	`i am asking me why...???`
`15:20.23`	`bomber`	`lol`
`15:20.44`	`Big_Barrel`	`hehe`
`15:20.48`	`[dmp]`	`Big_Barrel, thats a pretty nice 404 :)`
`15:20.57`	`bomber`	`haha 404`
`15:21.11`	`Big_Barrel`	`ah probabally cause i change the name in vi`
`15:21.13`	`Big_Barrel`	`one sec`
`15:21.59`	`bomber`	`1s`
`15:21.59`	`bomber`	`2s`
`15:22.00`	`bomber`	`3`
`15:22.02`	`bomber`	`4`
`15:22.02`	`bomber`	`5`
`15:22.03`	`bomber`	`6`
`15:22.04`	`bomber`	`7`
`15:22.07`	`bomber`	`8`
`15:22.08`	`bomber`	`lol`
`15:22.09`	`[dmp]`	`42!`
`15:22.19`	`Big_Barrel`	`http://www.kelsoes.com/teamname.html`
`15:22.20`	`bomber`	`sure 42....answer`
`15:22.26`	`Big_Barrel`	`it works for me ...hmmm`
`15:22.41`	`bomber`	`Error 404`
`15:22.41`	`bomber`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:22.41`	`bomber`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:22.41`	`bomber`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:22.56`	`Big_Barrel`	`hmmm, very strange`
`15:22.58`	`[dmp]`	`http://www.kelsoes.com/teamname.html this works`
`15:23.05`	`Big_Barrel`	`yes it works for me`
`15:23.08`	`Big_Barrel`	`also`
`15:23.59`	`[dmp]`	`grr`
`15:24.03`	`[dmp]`	`"What??? You have go to be kidding,that team is not any good! lol, Amoured Flying Tanks!"`
`15:24.06`	`bomber`	`What??? You have go to be kidding,that team is not any good! lol, bomber!`
`15:24.13`	`[dmp]`	`hehe`
`15:24.17`	`Big_Barrel`	`lol`
`15:24.17`	`bomber`	`lol`
`15:24.23`	`Big_Barrel`	`just a test cgi script`
`15:24.26`	`Big_Barrel`	`i am still learning`
`15:24.35`	`Big_Barrel`	`but i am having lots of fun with it :)`
`15:24.53`	`[dmp]`	`Any reason that you picked perl?`
`15:25.21`	`Big_Barrel`	`well i bought a book on perl a while back and i picked it up a few weeks ago`
`15:25.28`	`[dmp]`	`ah`
`15:25.32`	`[dmp]`	`Well good luck with it :)`
`15:25.41`	`Big_Barrel`	`it is fun and it has not discuraged me like C++ did, lol`
`15:25.49`	`Big_Barrel`	`but i hear php is easier`
`15:25.52`	`bomber`	`lol`
`15:26.06`	`Big_Barrel`	`hehe`
`15:26.09`	`[dmp]`	`php got a quite nice doc`
`15:26.16`	`[dmp]`	`and there is alot of tutorials on the net`
`15:26.19`	`Big_Barrel`	`that is what everyone tells me`
`15:26.31`	`Big_Barrel`	`that is it i might start reading it this weekend`
`15:26.38`	`Big_Barrel`	`i have a few books on php also`
`15:27.26`	`[dmp]`	`Well. I reda the few first chapters of the document (at php.net) .. and the loooked up the commands as i needed them`
`15:27.39`	`[dmp]`	`php is kinda perl'ish`
`15:27.52`	`[dmp]`	`going from perl to php isnt hard :)`
`15:28.08`	`Big_Barrel`	`i sure do like the script-fu on "the gimp"`
`15:28.14`	`[dmp]`	`however alot of php programmers dont know what they are doing, because it soo easy to learn`
`15:28.20`	`Big_Barrel`	`i will post some new logos right away :)`
`15:28.22`	`[dmp]`	`I sure dont like the gimp :)`
`15:28.34`	`Big_Barrel`	`why not?`
`15:28.37`	`Big_Barrel`	`what do you use?`
`15:28.42`	`[dmp]`	`Photoshop`
`15:28.43`	`Big_Barrel`	`i love the gimp`
`15:28.47`	`[dmp]`	`or friends :)`
`15:28.51`	`Big_Barrel`	`it makes me money every now and then :)`
`15:29.13`	`Big_Barrel`	`Adobe Photoshop = $700`
`15:29.14`	`Big_Barrel`	`lol`
`15:29.18`	`Big_Barrel`	`gimp=free`
`15:29.27`	`[dmp]`	`Im used to photoshop. I've tried to do some stuff with gimp, but i cannot get used to they userinterface`
`15:29.36`	`Big_Barrel`	`do they make photoshop for linux?`
`15:29.39`	`[dmp]`	`no`
`15:29.47`	`Big_Barrel`	`ah se`
`15:29.59`	`[dmp]`	`but i use photoshop max once a month`
`15:29.59`	`Big_Barrel`	`well i started with the gimp`
`15:30.04`	`Big_Barrel`	`so i am used to it`
`15:30.22`	`[dmp]`	`and i need windows to use netbanking anyway`
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`15:31.20`	`Big_Barrel`	`hehe i do, and i love it`
`15:31.34`	`Big_Barrel`	`i run Red Hat 8 for fetch mail`
`15:31.46`	`Big_Barrel`	`and red hat 9 for my machine`
`15:31.56`	`Big_Barrel`	`and i have an sgi 320 running win 2000 pro`
`15:32.07`	`Big_Barrel`	`and and octane running irix`
`15:32.16`	`[dmp]`	`woa`
`15:32.26`	`[dmp]`	`i got next to nothing then :)`
`15:32.34`	`Big_Barrel`	`and DM has quite a few others`
`15:32.41`	`Big_Barrel`	`he use to work for SGI`
`15:32.53`	`[dmp]`	`ah`
`15:33.34`	`[dmp]`	`except amiga, i have never had anything else than i586+-platform`
`15:36.37`	`Big_Barrel`	`dmp: brb i must smoke then i need your opinion on a logo`
`15:36.40`	`Big_Barrel`	`2 min`
`15:36.59`	`[dmp]`	`cya`
`15:39.39`	`Big_Barrel`	`ok i back`
`15:39.50`	`Big_Barrel`	`on sec i will post the logos`
`15:41.06`	`[dmp]`	`you arent good at estimation :)`
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`15:42.35`	`Big_Barrel`	`why how long did it take?`
`15:42.52`	`[dmp]`	`more than a second :)`
`15:43.48`	`[dmp]`	`where can i see it`
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`15:45.19`	`Big_Barrel`	`http://www.kelsoes.com/HoW.html`
`15:45.28`	`Big_Barrel`	`tell me which one you like the best`
`15:46.23`	`[dmp]`	`the 2nd one`
`15:46.28`	`Big_Barrel`	`really?`
`15:46.31`	`Big_Barrel`	`cool`
`15:46.35`	`[dmp]`	`But "hell" is to me, more dark than the 3 of them :)`
`15:46.38`	`Big_Barrel`	`i like the 1st one`
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`15:46.49`	`[dmp]`	`white is kinda innocent`
`15:46.50`	`Big_Barrel`	`the one that looks like brick "howbrick.jpg"`
`15:47.18`	`Big_Barrel`	`do you like the 1st one at all?`
`15:48.52`	`[dmp]`	`hmm`
`15:49.05`	`[dmp]`	`well. Just dont think there is much hell'ish over them :)`
`15:49.25`	`Big_Barrel`	`lol`
`15:49.49`	`[dmp]`	`not sure about the first. I think it shows that its auto-generated. It seems familiar, even if you just created them. Not sure if im mistaking or not`
`15:53.26`	`Big_Barrel`	`it is the gimp's script-fu program`
`15:53.34`	`Big_Barrel`	`ok i just uploaded another one`
`15:53.41`	`Big_Barrel`	`go look at the bottom`
`15:53.48`	`Big_Barrel`	`tell me what you think`
`15:54.10`	`[dmp]`	`i think: This text sure is boring. But thats about agents, not pictures :)`
`15:54.35`	`Big_Barrel`	`yes it is the same text`
`15:54.39`	`Big_Barrel`	`gothi l`
`15:54.41`	`Big_Barrel`	`i think`
`15:54.51`	`Big_Barrel`	`i will change text and try it`
`15:54.55`	`[dmp]`	`Noo.`
`15:55.00`	`[dmp]`	`that wasnt what i menat`
`15:55.02`	`[dmp]`	`meant.`
`15:55.09`	`Big_Barrel`	`what then?`
`15:55.13`	`[dmp]`	`Im readingn some text for uni tomorrow.`
`15:55.17`	`[dmp]`	`that text is boring :)`
`15:55.28`	`Big_Barrel`	`ah lol`
`15:55.53`	`[dmp]`	`The last one, thats a classic i think. Its nice. But still, not soo hellish.`
`15:56.02`	`[dmp]`	`try something with black background`
`15:56.04`	`Big_Barrel`	`hmmm`
`15:56.12`	`[dmp]`	`some fire or rusty metal`
`15:56.20`	`Big_Barrel`	`ah ok one sec`
`15:56.21`	`Big_Barrel`	`hehe`
`15:56.45`	`[dmp]`	`It should kinda look wreaked`
`15:56.49`	`[dmp]`	`~speel wreaked`
`15:56.53`	`[dmp]`	`ah`
`15:56.58`	`[dmp]`	`~spell wreak`
`15:57.00`		`'wreak' may be spelled correctly`
`15:57.19`	`Nidhoggr`	`~dict wreak`
`15:58.07`	`Nidhoggr`	`~dict wrecked`
`15:58.14`	`Nidhoggr`	`is that what you meant?`
`15:58.21`	`[dmp]`	`yes, thanks`
`15:58.28`	`Nidhoggr`	`np :)`
`15:58.39`	`[dmp]`	`engrish is ma beast :)`
`15:58.46`	`Nidhoggr`	`heh`
`15:58.56`	`[dmp]`	`hehe`
`15:58.59`	`Big_Barrel`	`lol`
`15:59.00`	`[dmp]`	`so do i :)`
`15:59.13`	`Nidhoggr`	`I have an aquaintence in Minnesota who can't spell to save his life.`
`15:59.20`	`Nidhoggr`	`and he loves instant messenger.`
`15:59.26`	`Nidhoggr`	`it's like torture to me.`
`15:59.53`	`Nidhoggr`	`he'd spell "wrecked" rekd`
`16:00.26`	`[dmp]`	`urgh`
`16:00.36`	`Nidhoggr`	`so the english in here is stellar in comparison.`
`16:00.42`	`Nidhoggr`	`:)`
`16:00.48`	`[dmp]`	`we got an expression called "word-blindness" for that`
`16:01.01`	`Nidhoggr`	`even with patlabor221's spelling. ;)`
`16:01.03`	`[dmp]`	`Those people get special training and can get alot better`
`16:01.21`	`Nidhoggr`	`yeah... he lives in the boonies... so no special training for him. :)`
`16:01.34`	`Big_Barrel`	`ah percect`
`16:01.42`	`Big_Barrel`	`___>> perfect`
`16:01.44`	`Nidhoggr`	`:)`
`16:01.49`	`Big_Barrel`	`one sec i will upload`
`16:02.15`	`Nidhoggr`	`~dict boondocks`
`16:02.33`	`Big_Barrel`	`lol`
`16:02.36`	`[dmp]`	`I used to hate english (chitchat mostly) because i never really could express what i mean, as i can with danish`
`16:02.41`	`[dmp]`	`But its got alot better`
`16:02.42`	`Big_Barrel`	`~dict styx`
`16:02.51`	`Nidhoggr`	`you do really well, dmp`
`16:03.18`	`[dmp]`	`Technical-english isnt that hard, danes uses english words when it comes to computers and alike`
`16:03.31`	`Nidhoggr`	`one advantage of my education... I can spell fairly well. :)`
`16:03.40`	`[dmp]`	`What education is that?`
`16:03.56`	`Nidhoggr`	`I have a PhD in Theology`
`16:04.22`	`Nidhoggr`	`with a slant towards social anthropology in the context of religion.`
`16:04.43`	`[dmp]`	`Ok`
`16:04.57`	`Nidhoggr`	`you don't have to call me Dr. Mandrake. :)`
`16:04.57`	`Big_Barrel`	`ok try it now, look at the top one : http://www.kelsoes.com/HoW.html`
`16:05.00`	`[dmp]`	`Im just the average geek :)`
`16:05.37`	`Big_Barrel`	`~[dmp]`
`16:05.39`		`somebody said [dmp] was the flying instructor`
`16:05.56`	`[dmp]`	`BB: I like this better than the rest. Its more hellish`
`16:06.03`	`[dmp]`	`~interal [dmp]`
`16:06.21`	`Big_Barrel`	`~[dmp]`
`16:06.22`		`extra, extra, read all about it, [dmp] is just the average geek!`
`16:06.31`	`[dmp]`	`hehe`
`16:06.33`	`Big_Barrel`	`hehe`
`16:06.37`	`Big_Barrel`	`so you like it?`
`16:06.38`	`[dmp]`	`~Big Barrel`
`16:06.39`		`from memory, big barrel is using alot of time playing with me.`
`16:07.00`	`[dmp]`	`yeah`
`16:07.03`	`[dmp]`	`i do.`
`16:07.28`	`Big_Barrel`	`cool`
`16:07.31`	`Big_Barrel`	`i will use then`
`16:08.02`	`[dmp]`	`As teamlogo, or for your page?`
`16:09.56`	`Nidhoggr`	`I still need to finish the logo for Team PeEpZ`
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`16:10.07`	`Nidhoggr`	`morning, Tim.`
`16:10.16`	`[dmp]`	`peepz? new team, or ffa team?`
`16:10.31`	`Nidhoggr`	`we're just doing ffa for now.`
`16:10.40`	`Nidhoggr`	`now that my new computer is working, we may venture out.`
`16:10.41`	`Nidhoggr`	`:)`
`16:10.54`	`[dmp]`	`I need to find the time to work on the league, so ffa can be included too`
`16:10.55`	`[dmp]`	`hehe`
`16:12.03`	`Nidhoggr`	`this is what I have so far... http://www.dragon.org/mandrake/teampeepz.png`
`16:12.25`	`[dmp]`	`peepz makes me think of Chik, for some reason :-)`
`16:12.32`	`Nidhoggr`	`:)`
`16:12.36`	`Big_Barrel`	`dmp go look now>>>> http://www.kelsoes.com/HoW.html`
`16:13.02`	`[dmp]`	`Nidhoggr, Cool, Very original :)`
`16:13.12`	`Nidhoggr`	`:)`
`16:13.49`	`Nidhoggr`	`we're trying to get more of our friends involved in bzflag, and our mailing list is peeps@<domain deleted for privacy>`
`16:13.56`	`Nidhoggr`	`that's where I got the idea.`
`16:14.14`	`[dmp]`	`Big_Barrel: This this much better than the one you use now (this animation)`
`16:14.26`	`Big_Barrel`	`really?`
`16:14.30`	`[dmp]`	`ah`
`16:15.24`	`[dmp]`	`I join ducati once'n'awhile to teach them how to fly ;)`
`16:15.33`	`Big_Barrel`	`hehe`
`16:15.58`	`[dmp]`	`if they got enough airtime, they can join`
`16:16.13`	`[dmp]`	`Could be a funny ladder :-)`
`16:16.50`	`Big_Barrel`	`dmp: do you think the logo would look better if i had a HoW patch on both sides of it?`
`16:17.20`	`[dmp]`	`try it, its easier to judge`
`16:17.25`	`[dmp]`	`where did you get that patch anyway?`
`16:17.26`	`Big_Barrel`	`oki :)`
`16:17.30`	`Big_Barrel`	`one moment`
`16:19.47`	`Big_Barrel`	`dmp: check out my HTML source and tell me what i am doing wrong>>> i can't get the patch on the other side of the logo`
`16:20.35`	`[dmp]`	`it works here, if i make the browswer window wide enough`
`16:21.17`	`[dmp]`	`But if you want to force it, you can use a table with 3 cells patch,logo,patch`
`16:21.32`	`Big_Barrel`	`hmmm, strange`
`16:21.47`	`Big_Barrel`	`does it look good with 1 on each side?`
`16:22.03`	`Big_Barrel`	`i think i like just 1 on the left`
`16:22.56`	`[dmp]`	`Well, its about the same, except its wider. So just have one on the left. that works nicely too`
`16:23.22`	`Big_Barrel`	`ok cool, i like it like that anyway :)`
`16:23.26`	`Big_Barrel`	`brb smoking again`
`16:26.07`	`TimRiker`	`so did I screw things up last night with the udp changes?`
`16:27.01`	`Big_Barrel`	`ok back`
`16:27.07`	`Big_Barrel`	`hi there tim :)`
`16:27.43`	`Big_Barrel`	`tim: what do you think? about my logo? http://www.kelsoes.com/HoW.html`
`16:28.05`	`TimRiker`	`Big_Barrel: heh`
`16:28.32`	`[dmp]`	`TimRiker: What does "ws" means? (from the cvs-commit-mails)`
`16:28.34`	`Big_Barrel`	`does it look`
`16:28.41`	`Big_Barrel`	`HELLISH enough?`
`16:28.55`	`Big_Barrel`	`~dict hellish`
`16:29.36`	`Big_Barrel`	`~dict hell`
`16:30.14`	`Big_Barrel`	`~dict hell on wheels`
`16:30.15`	`[dmp]`	`I know! I'm gonna create "Ketchup" - the slippery team :-)`
`16:30.30`	`Big_Barrel`	`dmp: lmao`
`16:58.20`	`Big_Barrel`	`~ducati6`
`17:06.33`	`*** join/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-11-76-220-24.midco.net)`
`17:19.59`	`brlcad`	`[dmp]: ws means whitespace`
`17:21.02`	`brlcad`	`Meaning he just changed things like indentation and blank links, etc. Formatting issues.`
`17:32.12`	`Big_Barrel`	`dmp r u there?`
`17:33.13`	`Big_Barrel`	`anyone here know HTML (like the back of their hand) ????`
`17:33.29`	`creeperz`	`I do`
`17:33.33`	`Big_Barrel`	`cool`
`17:33.38`	`Big_Barrel`	`question for you:)`
`17:33.49`	`creeperz`	`Yea`
`17:34.11`	`Big_Barrel`	`when you make a hyperlink.... how do you get rid of the underline for the link>?`
`17:34.21`	`creeperz`	`Ahh`
`17:34.32`	`creeperz`	`I was just reading about that`
`17:34.34`	`creeperz`	`Let me find it`
`17:34.40`	`Big_Barrel`	`ok :)`
`17:35.11`	`Big_Barrel`	`i thought it told me in my book, but apparentlly not`
`17:35.41`	`brlcad`	`If you are using stylesheets, you can just remove the underline specifier for links.`
`17:35.51`	`creeperz`	`Yea`
`17:36.04`	`Big_Barrel`	`i am not using stylesheets though`
`17:36.15`	`Big_Barrel`	`http://www.kelsoes.com/HoW.html`
`17:36.21`	`Big_Barrel`	`read the source`
`17:36.25`	`Big_Barrel`	`HTML`
`17:36.48`	`brlcad`	`you should also be able to define the style directly inside the a tag using the style attribute`
`17:36.57`	`brlcad`	`e.g. style="text-decoration:none"`
`17:37.24`	`Big_Barrel`	`ok cool i will c if it works :)`
`17:38.25`	`brlcad`	`Oh, it works. :) Spec says so. If your mileage is different you probably did something wrong ;)`
`17:38.26`	`Big_Barrel`	`hmmm, did not work`
`17:38.56`	`Big_Barrel`	`>>>> <STYLE="text-decoration:none"> >>>`
`17:39.06`	`Big_Barrel`	`is this the tag i should use?`
`17:39.13`	`brlcad`	`no no no`
`17:39.17`	`brlcad`	`attribute to the a tag`
`17:39.33`	`Big_Barrel`	`like the Body <>`
`17:39.39`	`brlcad`	`<a href="blah.html" style="...`
`17:39.44`	`Big_Barrel`	`<BODY STYLE> ??`
`17:39.59`	`Big_Barrel`	`ah ok i get you`
`17:40.00`	`Big_Barrel`	`thx`
`17:40.03`	`Big_Barrel`	`let me try`
`17:40.18`	`brlcad`	`if you don't want to define it a bazillion times for all of your a links you can just override the a style`
`17:40.30`	`brlcad`	`in <head> add:`
`17:40.39`	`brlcad`	`<style><!--`
`17:40.48`	`brlcad`	`A { text-decoration:none }`
`17:40.52`	`brlcad`	`//--></style>`
`17:41.03`	`Big_Barrel`	`ok cool`
`17:41.07`	`creeperz`	`Sorry`
`17:41.13`	`creeperz`	`Dad needed me`
`17:42.33`	`Big_Barrel`	`ok thx bricad :) it worked :)`
`17:43.14`	`brlcad`	`btw, that last <HTML> tag at the end is invalid :)`
`17:43.25`	`brlcad`	`you can tell me why :)`
`17:43.37`	`creeperz`	`Lol`
`17:44.01`	`brlcad`	`also the <BODY> near the top shouldn't be there`
`17:45.50`	`brlcad`	`Hrm.. you also have about 6 improperly nested font tags`
`17:46.23`	`brlcad`	`er, 12 of em`
`17:46.37`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`On wednesdays, Professor Learner teaches the HTML for beginner's courses.`
`17:47.04`	`Nidhoggr`	`:)`
`18:00.27`	`*** join/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-82-84-96-36.cust-adsl.tiscali.it)`
`18:03.23`	`brlcad`	`Howdy Tupone`
`18:03.45`	`Tupone`	`hi (specially you, but all the other too)`
`18:05.41`	`Tupone`	`s/hi/howdy/ (I see the translation from ibot, didn't know what really mean)`
`18:06.03`	`brlcad`	`heh`
`18:06.28`	`brlcad`	`howdy==hello=hi`
`18:06.51`	`Tupone`	`~dict howdy`
`18:07.20`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`I guess Wednesday afternoon is going to be the English dialects course. ;)`
`18:07.41`	`brlcad`	`sup G :)`
`18:07.45`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`When do you get to Southern?`
`18:07.46`	`[dmp]`	`#BZFlag - not just a game :-)`
`18:07.48`	`*** join/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se)`
`18:07.50`	`brlcad`	`~sup G`
`18:07.52`		`nuthin, yous?`
`18:07.52`	`[dmp]`	`hi david_v`
`18:08.07`	`brlcad`	`~botsmack`
`18:08.09`		`sure, wanna snort some with me?`
`18:08.09`	`david_v`	`heya`
`18:08.26`	`david_v`	`ibot: please keep quiet :)`
`18:08.27`		`david_v: I give up, what is it?`
`18:08.29`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`~slap brlcad`
`18:08.32`		`ACTION slaps brlcad, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
`18:08.56`	`Tupone`	`~dict botsmack`
`18:08.59`	`Tupone`	`lol`
`18:08.59`	`creeperz`	`That's a turn down`
`18:09.06`	`brlcad`	`~dict smack`
`18:09.24`	`brlcad`	`heh, not in there :)`
`18:09.38`	`brlcad`	`how do you get it to show the other 6?`
`18:09.43`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`~dict 7 smack`
`18:09.54`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`~dict 1 smack`
`18:10.05`	`brlcad`	`~dict 8 smack`
`18:10.18`	`creeperz`	`Ouch`
`18:10.21`	`brlcad`	`~dict 9 smack`
`18:10.29`	`creeperz`	`I thought you couldn't do that in public schools anymore`
`18:10.34`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`It would be nice if there were some order to what it displayed.`
`18:10.36`	`brlcad`	`jeesh, are they random?`
`18:10.51`	`brlcad`	`~dict 1-12 smack`
`18:10.52`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`~dict 12 smack`
`18:11.05`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`~dict 11 smack`
`18:11.11`	`brlcad`	`heh`
`18:11.31`	`creeperz`	`Oh well`
`18:11.34`	`creeperz`	`~dict monkey`
`18:11.36`	`brlcad`	`here we go`
`18:11.41`	`brlcad`	`~dict 4 smack`
`18:11.46`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`That's not it, but it sure has some interesting connotations for brlcad's preferences.`
`18:12.02`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`ah found the one you were looking for. ;)`
`18:12.30`	`brlcad`	`Tupone may become more enlightened that he probably cares to be :)`
`18:13.30`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`The Zen of bzflag. :)`
`18:14.13`	`brlcad`	`I sold a sucker on it here at work just a little while ago during lunch..`
`18:14.27`	`larsl`	`Smack?`
`18:14.28`	`brlcad`	`Hopefully I'll be tossing his newbie butt around the field soon enough :)`
`18:14.37`	`brlcad`	`hehe`
`18:16.18`	`TimRiker`	`nobody griping about my changes last night?`
`18:17.03`	`larsl`	`Not yet... what did you change?`
`18:17.07`	`brlcad`	`Not yet. Haven't tried myself. Give it time.. it will come.`
`18:17.27`	`TimRiker`	`udp negotiation. changed it a lot. ;-)`
`18:17.55`	`Tupone`	`also ws :-)`
`18:18.03`	`larsl`	`Is that a protocol change?`
`18:18.37`	`brlcad`	`Uh oh.. sounds like someone needs to update the wipiwiki :)`
`18:19.22`	`TimRiker`	`yes, it's a protocol change.`
`18:19.29`	`TimRiker`	`~wipi`
`18:19.30`		`http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/WorkInProgress`
`18:20.05`	`Chestal`	`wipiwiki isn't uptodate, my change whcih added a tmestamp to MsgPlayerUpdate is not in there, and I was too lazy to add it. That msg is broken in the wiki anyway`
`18:20.24`	`TimRiker`	`the udp behind a firewall issue was made worse by the 1.9 changes. I think I've made it even better than 1.7 with my fix.`
`18:20.46`	`Chestal`	`hmm, I thought we had already fixed that? Or was it that we only thought about fixing it`
`18:21.07`	`TimRiker`	`I updated doc/protocol.txt with my changes, that's the one that should get updated.`
`18:21.44`	`TimRiker`	`Chestal: thought about it, but nobody had done it yet. It was very broken from here where i play through a http proxy.`
`18:21.48`	`Chestal`	`it was my impression that the wiki one was newer`
`18:22.14`	`Tupone`	`I think also that someone with Windows in mind must remove (a test) specifity of window on ServerLink.cxx. Otherwise my fix on connect stuck don't work on it IMHO`
`18:22.44`	`Chestal`	`maybe we shoud switch to the new format for the msg layout then`
`18:22.54`	`Chestal`	`all these little boxes take too long to draw ;-)`
`18:23.11`	`TimRiker`	`wiki is useful for conversation and planning. doc is included with the source and under the same version control.`
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`18:25.24`	`fearpasion710`	`can someone help me build a server?`
`18:25.49`	`Tupone`	`fearpasion710: talk!`
`18:25.57`	`fearpasion710`	`im on a T1`
`18:26.17`	`fearpasion710`	`and i would like to build a bzflag server but i dont know ehre to start!`
`18:26.33`	`fearpasion710`	`i would like for people all over the world to play!`
`18:26.37`	`Tupone`	`Windows Linux others?`
`18:26.43`	`fearpasion710`	`im on Linux!`
`18:26.51`	`Tupone`	`Distribution`
`18:26.52`	`fearpasion710`	`Gentoo to be exact!`
`18:27.01`	`brlcad`	`Would some C++ savy person tell me what I'm doing wrong in include/Singleton.h that is causing the ThreadLock to be unrecognized...`
`18:27.27`	`brlcad`	`http://brlcad.org/bzflag/cvs/include/Singleton.h`
`18:27.29`	`Tupone`	`do you want the new (state of the art but not used now) or the old (used)`
`18:27.46`	`fearpasion710`	`me or brlcad?`
`18:27.53`	`fearpasion710`	`if me the new one!`
`18:27.54`	`Tupone`	`fearpasion710: you`
`18:27.56`	`fearpasion710`	`ok`
`18:28.06`	`fearpasion710`	`the new one or what would you recommend?`
`18:28.17`	`fearpasion710`	`the old one right?`
`18:28.30`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): more udp comments`
`18:28.30`	`Tupone`	`nobody now play the new, they will played I suppose in a monh`
`18:28.39`	`Tupone`	`s/monh/month`
`18:28.44`	`fearpasion710`	`oh`
`18:28.52`	`fearpasion710`	`so i guess ill have to do the old one`
`18:29.02`	`Tupone`	`They are not compatible so better the old for now`
`18:29.08`	`fearpasion710`	`ok`
`18:29.14`	`Chestal`	`brlcad: you mean LockThread?`
`18:29.19`	`Tupone`	`You have to get from sourceforge`
`18:29.20`	`TimRiker`	`brlcad: what is Singleton.h for anyway?`
`18:29.24`	`fearpasion710`	`i already emerge bzflag?`
`18:29.26`	`larsl`	`brlcad: There's nothing in there called ThreadLock.`
`18:29.38`	`TimRiker`	`fearpasion710: what version did it emerge?`
`18:29.43`	`fearpasion710`	`hold on`
`18:29.46`	`fearpasion710`	`ill tell you rightn ow`
`18:29.46`	`brlcad`	`In the SingleThreaded threading model (second to last class), there is a LockThread class defined. I try to use that in the Singleton template and it complains`
`18:29.55`	`brlcad`	`yes, I mean LockThread not ThreadLock, sorry`
`18:30.30`	`brlcad`	`Tim: it's intended to make the myrid of Singletons we have now all conform to the same interface (and simplify their code)`
`18:30.33`	`TimRiker`	`brlcad: for what?`
`18:30.34`	`fearpasion710`	`1.7.7.1`
`18:30.42`	`larsl`	`1.7.7.1?`
`18:30.47`	`fearpasion710`	`yeah`
`18:30.52`	`Tupone`	`perhaps 1.7.g.1`
`18:30.52`	`larsl`	`Sounds like Gentoo have their own BZFlag version names.`
`18:30.56`	`fearpasion710`	`yeah`
`18:30.59`	`TimRiker`	`brlcad: ie: what singletons?`
`18:31.13`	`fearpasion710`	`that what portage tells me`
`18:31.21`	`Tupone`	`Have you tried running bzfs`
`18:31.23`	`Chestal`	`brlcad: why does SIngleThreaded::LockThread() call SingleThreaded::Lock()? Shouldn't it just be Lock()?`
`18:31.30`	`brlcad`	`the CommandManager and KeyManager come to mind`
`18:31.33`	`brlcad`	`BZDB`
`18:31.38`	`fearpasion710`	`yeah but i dont know how to use that comand`
`18:31.51`	`TimRiker`	`fearpasion710: you probably want something like 1.7.7.2 or 1.7.7.3 instead`
`18:31.52`	`fearpasion710`	`and everytime i search for my server i can never find it`
`18:32.17`	`fearpasion710`	`k`
`18:32.30`	`david_v`	`fearpasion710: i use Gentoo too, what's the prob with BZflag now? can't find the latest version?`
`18:32.33`	`brlcad`	`Chestal: same thing Lock() is SingleThreaded::Lock() .. I was just being verbose`
`18:32.34`	`Chestal`	`brlcad: eh, that is SIngleThreaded<T>::LockThread::LockThread(), i.e. the ctor`
`18:32.35`	`TimRiker`	`but 1.7.7.1 is probably 1.7g1 which would work more or less. use -public <foo> to make the server public`
`18:32.45`	`david_v`	`1.7.7.1 is 1.7g1 yes`
`18:32.47`	`fearpasion710`	`ok`
`18:32.48`	`Chestal`	`brlcad: no, it#s not, it's LockThread::Lock()`
`18:32.57`	`larsl`	`brlcad: Is it the commented-out line in Singleton that gives you errors?`
`18:33.03`	`TimRiker`	`use "-d -d -d -d" to see what it is sending to bzfls as an add.`
`18:33.16`	`brlcad`	`Oh, indeed indeed`
`18:33.33`	`brlcad`	`larsl, yes the two commented out LockThread lines in Singleton give me errors`
`18:33.41`	`TimRiker`	`fearpasion710: you need to be sending the correct IP. so 0.0.0.0 is a bad sign. as would be a 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x`
`18:33.47`	`fearpasion710`	`ok`
`18:33.56`	`brlcad`	`gives me a "parse error before ;"`
`18:34.05`	`fearpasion710`	`oh crap it worked!`
`18:34.08`	`david_v`	`fearpasion710: nobody seems to have bothered to fix a 1.7.g2 or g3 build yet. maybe i could try and fix one... heh. but anyway, i just downloaded the source`
`18:34.13`	`Chestal`	`maybe we should write a server setup howto (no, I'm not volunterring :-)`
`18:34.14`	`TimRiker`	`fearpasion710: you might need -i <public address) or -publicaddr foo.example.com:5155 to get the announce message right.`
`18:34.30`	`fearpasion710`	`oh ok`
`18:34.56`	`brlcad`	`Isn't there one already up on Shell Shock?`
`18:35.03`	`Chestal`	`brlcad: hmm, maybe there is`
`18:35.05`	`fearpasion710`	`thanks guys`
`18:35.07`	`larsl`	`Don't you need a template parameter for ThreadingModel in ThreadingModel::LockThread lock;?`
`18:35.57`	`brlcad`	`larsl, I think you found it =)`
`18:36.08`	`*** part/#bzflag fearpasion710 (~fearpasio@c-24-126-90-165.we.client2.attbi.com)`
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`18:36.35`	`scanline`	`this is so nuts... anyone here currently in california? :)`
`18:37.12`	`brlcad`	`thank you larsl and Chestal`
`18:37.36`	`Chestal`	`shellshock has a guide to setup bzfs`
`18:38.58`	`Patlabor221`	`derv doesn't run that site`
`18:39.50`	`Patlabor221`	`durchai does`
`18:40.00`	`Patlabor221`	`and good luck, he has been known to go awol for months`
`18:40.06`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`18:40.06`	`brlcad`	`er, that's who I meant :)`
`18:40.26`	`Noodleman`	`he's been awol recently too`
`18:40.33`	`Patlabor221`	`what about the site do you like?`
`18:41.00`	`Patlabor221`	`cus I can probably bust out a design similar but from scratch`
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`18:41.58`	`brlcad`	`Actually, the style, navigation, layout, and information (emphasis on the latter)`
`18:42.34`	`brlcad`	`I wanted to see if he'd give it up just so we didn't have to "bust out a design from scratch" :)`
`18:42.51`	`Patlabor221`	`well for a main page I would make sure there is at least one screenshot and direct link to the latest downoads on the main page`
`18:43.36`	`brlcad`	`Yes, it would have to be merged neatly with the existing, just saving time on a bit of documentation and design/style/layout/navigation thought`
`18:44.01`	`*** join/#bzflag Mayhem (~Mayhem@dsl-217-155-141-174.zen.co.uk)`
`18:44.14`	`Patlabor221`	`does the present site use a news poster? or is it all manual?`
`18:45.36`	`brlcad`	`It's not clear if the blah.html is doing any cgi or script foo on the backend, but it doesn't appear to be php/perl/etc`
`18:45.45`	`Chestal`	`hi Mayhem`
`18:45.51`	`Mayhem`	`Hi Chestal`
`18:45.52`	`Patlabor221`	`who would know?`
`18:45.55`	`Mayhem`	`'lo all`
`18:45.55`	`Chestal`	`Patlabor: bzflag.org? AFAIK it's all manual except for the wiki`
`18:45.58`	`brlcad`	`he would :)`
`18:46.06`	`Patlabor221`	`yes bzflag.org`
`18:46.12`	`Patlabor221`	`a news system would be nice then`
`18:46.13`	`Tupone`	`Why not using postnuke or phpnuke`
`18:46.16`	`Chestal`	`but I'm only guessing`
`18:46.23`	`brlcad`	`OH.. _present site_.. missed that`
`18:46.30`	`brlcad`	`hi Mayhem :)`
`18:46.32`	`Patlabor221`	`yes current`
`18:46.48`	`Patlabor221`	`phpnuke would be one thing`
`18:46.54`	`Patlabor221`	`or nanobloger`
`18:46.58`	`Patlabor221`	`since we have shell`
`18:47.11`	`TimRiker`	`there is a basic news feed thing on the bzflag.org home page.`
`18:47.21`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh cool`
`18:47.23`	`Mayhem`	`assuming you want it to look like a *nuke page`
`18:47.27`	`brlcad`	`My thoughts is that it should be 1) relatively simple 2) in cvs and 3) templatized via script/php/whatever`
`18:47.33`	`Patlabor221`	`is there like an admin page you use to add news items?`
`18:47.50`	`TimRiker`	`yes`
`18:47.54`	`TimRiker`	`/admin`
`18:48.01`	`Patlabor221`	`cool`
`18:48.14`	`Patlabor221`	`allways thought that way was better then manual :)`
`18:48.16`	`Chestal`	`I wonder whetehr we shoud emove the 1.8 screenshots, might be misleading`
`18:48.24`	`Tupone`	`I personally prefer phpnuke => http://vialibetta.dyndns.org`
`18:48.34`	`brlcad`	`We could keep it in cvs and have the main page updated on commit similar to how the snaps are generated and posted`
`18:48.40`	`*** part/#bzflag calico (calico@bgm-66-24-2-32.stny.rr.com)`
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`18:49.20`	`fearpasion710`	`what the address to the -pubbliclist ?`
`18:49.27`	`brlcad`	`not to mention have site diff tracking and automatic backup`
`18:49.35`	`larsl`	`fearpasion710: bzflist://12.237.229.200:5156/`
`18:49.40`	`fearpasion710`	`thanks`
`18:49.42`	`larsl`	`fearpasion710: It's in the topic. =)`
`18:49.54`	`fearpasion710`	`oh crap`
`18:49.56`	`fearpasion710`	`thanks guys`
`18:49.57`	`Tupone`	`fearpasion710: but you can keep it off`
`18:50.04`	`Patlabor221`	`well tell you what brlcad, I'll make a design based on the shell shoock stuff, and you can figure out how to back end it :)`
`18:50.17`	`brlcad`	`hehe :) sounds like a deal`
`18:51.10`	`Patlabor221`	`most?`
`18:51.16`	`Patlabor221`	`what ones didn't make the cut?`
`18:51.17`	`brlcad`	`hehe`
`18:51.32`	`brlcad`	`You're latest rocks :)`
`18:51.39`	`brlcad`	`er, your`
`18:51.44`	`Patlabor221`	`don't make me send our gubenator after your`
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`18:52.15`	`brlcad`	`Eek. Is that your IT guy? Would you send that wrath my way?? :)`
`18:52.25`	`fearpasion710`	`lol`
`18:52.27`	`larsl`	`"Your end is not using UDP, turn on UDP upgrade your client or Try another server, bye!"`
`18:52.38`	`Patlabor221`	`this is true tim, that's why I want to add more things`
`18:52.42`	`fearpasion710`	`does this look right?`
`18:52.43`	`brlcad`	`larsl, brlcad allows tcp iirc`
`18:52.44`	`Patlabor221`	`not just shift`
`18:52.45`	`larsl`	`I suppose that's because I'm usign an old server and a new client.`
`18:52.46`	`fearpasion710`	`bash-2.05b$ bzfs -i eth0 -p 5551 -ttl 255 -publicaddr 24.126.90.165:5551 -publiclist bzflist://12.237.229.200:5156/`
`18:52.48`	`TimRiker`	`I'd much rather see folks working on updating the docs than working on a new web interface.`
`18:53.00`	`Patlabor221`	`then make assignements`
`18:53.11`	`TimRiker`	`if you want php work, recreate a bsfls`
`18:53.16`	`Patlabor221`	`instead of just saying patches welcome`
`18:53.37`	`larsl`	`TimRiker: If you changed the UDP stuff so new clients don't work with old servers, shouldn't we bump the version number?`
`18:53.41`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm just doing photoshoip comps, art work, not php, don't know php`
`18:53.50`	`TimRiker`	`larsl: yes. feel free.`
`18:54.05`	`fearpasion710`	`is this right? bash-2.05b$ bzfs -i eth0 -p 5551 -ttl 255 -publicaddr 24.126.90.165:5551 -publiclist bzflist://12.237.229.200:5156/`
`18:54.23`	`fearpasion710`	`im sorry for bothering so much!`
`18:54.25`	`TimRiker`	`Patlabor221: we need an app icon without text for mac, linux (kde, gnome, rpm) etc.`
`18:54.43`	`Patlabor221`	`what formats do they take?`
`18:54.54`	`CIA`	`03larsl * 12bzflag/include (version.h): New version, UDP is done differently`
`18:54.56`	`Tupone`	`fearpasion710: You miss -public`
`18:55.26`	`Chestal`	`fear: http://www.shellshock.dutchrai.com/ has help for gettign bzfs to run`
`18:55.41`	`brlcad`	`A raytraced bzflag tank with global illumination would make a cool icon`
`18:56.05`	`Patlabor221`	`icons are small`
`18:56.13`	`TimRiker`	`64x64, 48x48, 32x32, 16x16, 8x8 would all be nice.`
`18:56.16`	`larsl`	`Patlabor221: PNG should work for all the Linux desktops.`
`18:56.22`	`scanline`	`TimRiker: OS X uses 128x128 :)`
`18:56.36`	`Patlabor221`	`tim what is your fave tank color?`
`18:56.50`	`scanline`	`http://navi.picogui.org/~micah/wasabi_ui_ps2.png <-- 256x256 icons :P`
`18:56.57`	`Patlabor221`	`is real alpha ok? or is it just 1 bit trans?`
`18:57.08`	`scanline`	`Patlabor221: real alpha`
`18:57.11`	`Patlabor221`	`coo`
`18:57.12`	`brlcad`	`real`
`18:57.21`	`TimRiker`	`scanline: k, add that. some will handle differently.`
`18:57.54`	`TimRiker`	`tiff with real alpha should work for kde/gnome but I don't know if the rpm icon supports that.`
`18:58.09`	`larsl`	`Patlabor221: Some desktops probably don't like alpha channels.`
`18:58.10`	`scanline`	`why tiff, doesn't everything use png?`
`18:58.33`	`brlcad`	`scanline: it looks like the those icons start falling apart as they get too small..`
`18:58.37`	`Patlabor221`	`who votes for what color?`
`18:58.50`	`scanline`	`brlcad: falling apart? they look fine to me`
`18:59.04`	`Nidhoggr`	`fearpassion... look at http://bzflag.secretplace.us/spirals.cf you can use the config file format instead of the command line stuff, and it might be easier for you to work with.`
`18:59.15`	`fearpasion710`	`ok`
`18:59.33`	`Nidhoggr`	`it's also well commented.`
`18:59.35`	`brlcad`	`looks like the subsampling is a simple linear combination from the original or something`
`18:59.53`	`scanline`	`brlcad: it's regular trilinear filtering`
`19:00.08`	`brlcad`	`hence aliasing on the nintendo controller and the letters`
`19:00.11`	`scanline`	`brlcad: drawing the icon at multiple sizes though doesn't really work when they're all being scaled and rotated in real-time`
`19:00.32`	`scanline`	`the letters are rendered completely separately from the icon`
`19:00.39`	`Chestal`	`they should be raytraced in real time :-)`
`19:00.42`	`scanline`	`the font engine is somewhat smarter`
`19:00.45`	`scanline`	`Chestal: :)`
`19:00.48`	`TimRiker`	`png has real alpha, yes? if so png is fine for kde/gnome`
`19:01.07`	`brlcad`	`yes, the text isn't quite as bad as that controller`
`19:01.11`	`Chestal`	`I always suggested to replace the static .gif/jpg/png logos by a cgi caling pov to generate it on demand`
`19:01.39`	`brlcad`	`lol, Chestal`
`19:01.43`	`scanline`	`brlcad: you're not supposed to be able to see every detail when it's small, just be able to understand what the icon is for`
`19:01.49`	`scanline`	`it looks a lot better close up ;)`
`19:01.51`	`scanline`	`http://navi.picogui.org/~micah/wasabi_ui_nes.png`
`19:01.51`	`TimRiker`	`Chestal: heh. suggest that to Google for thier logo.`
`19:01.53`	`Chestal`	`usign javascritp it coudl even choose the perfect size for your browser window`
`19:03.02`	`scanline`	`brlcad: I don't see any aliasing, but considering this is going on a TV it probably wouldn't matter if there was :)`
`19:03.20`	`brlcad`	`hrm.. odd. That N and PS logo look much better than the small nintendo`
`19:04.10`	`brlcad`	`Does it use multiple logo images or one 256x256 subsampled to the desired depth`
`19:04.20`	`scanline`	`256x256, with mipmapping`
`19:07.56`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/include (version.h): might as well stay in sync till we change it`
`19:13.09`	`Nidhoggr`	`I'll let you know when I get his attention.`
`19:13.15`	`Nidhoggr`	`erps`
`19:18.48`	`Patlabor221`	`ok so if noone says anything about a fave tank color, it's gonna be green`
`19:19.49`	`Chestal`	`nah, not green!`
`19:20.11`	`Patlabor221`	`the chose a system`
`19:20.21`	`Patlabor221`	`you would prefer a miliatry targe?`
`19:20.23`	`Patlabor221`	`whoops`
`19:20.27`	`Patlabor221`	`slipped into geek mode`
`19:22.07`	`Nidhoggr`	`:)`
`19:22.08`	`Patlabor221`	`Red?`
`19:22.10`	`Patlabor221`	`Blue?`
`19:22.13`	`Patlabor221`	`Purple?`
`19:22.15`	`Patlabor221`	`Black?`
`19:22.22`	`Patlabor221`	`salmon?`
`19:22.34`	`Patlabor221`	`pink?`
`19:22.38`	`brlcad`	`How about a dark grey with a red flag?`
`19:22.44`	`Nidhoggr`	`periwinkle`
`19:22.56`	`Patlabor221`	`so rouge?`
`19:23.04`	`Patlabor221`	`can rouges get team flags?`
`19:23.08`	`Chestal`	`to be honest, I have no idea what would look best`
`19:23.26`	`brlcad`	`Rabbit color looks good too slightly off white`
`19:23.28`	`Patlabor221`	`and I don't think a flag will fit in the smaller icons`
`19:25.31`	`Mayhem`	`red and green are the two 'true' colours, and green on a green field won't work...`
`19:25.55`	`Bagheera`	`purple, ooo, i meant magenta.....aah, no pink.......dang what is that color!`
`19:26.04`	`Mayhem`	`fuschia?`
`19:26.09`	`Chestal`	`indigo?`
`19:26.17`	`Chestal`	`violet?`
`19:26.30`	`fearpasion710`	`Tim are you still here?`
`19:26.39`	`Chestal`	`lavender? mauve?`
`19:26.47`	`Mayhem`	`Microsoft(TM) Default Background Blue(TM)?`
`19:27.04`	`Bagheera`	`yes, blue tank of death`
`19:27.15`	`fearpasion710`	`TimRiker??`
`19:28.30`	`Patlabor221`	`"san dimas highschool footbal rules!" ?`
`19:28.37`	`brlcad`	`neutral color seems like a better choice, even if it's one not in the game. the neutral colors in the game are the horrible rougue yellow, bunny white, and bunny-hunter black`
`19:32.02`	`Bagheera`	`blood red for the hunters, pink for bunny.....like the energizer rabbit......`
`19:32.21`	`brlcad`	`Okay, more help with the singleton.. I've made some changes (proper Lock/Unlock, and ThreadingModel is no longer a template) and still have the same problem`
`19:32.43`	`brlcad`	`http://brlcad.org/bzflag/cvs/include/Singleton.h`
`19:33.53`	`Nidhoggr`	`what UDP ranges does bzflag use?`
`19:33.59`	`TimRiker`	`fearpasion710: ??`
`19:34.12`	`fearpasion710`	`hi`
`19:34.20`	`fearpasion710`	`what are all the udp ranges?`
`19:34.22`	`brlcad`	`still getting a parse error on the ThreadingModel lines in instance() and destroy()`
`19:34.25`	`TimRiker`	`Mayhem: I think that's cyan4 or so under X`
`19:34.37`	`TimRiker`	`Nidhoggr: which version?`
`19:34.44`	`Tupone`	`1.7`
`19:35.12`	`Nidhoggr`	`1.7 :)`
`19:35.19`	`Nidhoggr`	`I'm asking for fearpasion`
`19:35.24`	`TimRiker`	`1.7g2 has a -p and a -pr and uses two ports on the server. -p is the tcp and udp listen, -pr is the tcp reconnect port.`
`19:35.36`	`Nidhoggr`	`he's NAT'd.`
`19:35.52`	`brlcad`	`Oh wow.. got it`
`19:36.08`	`brlcad`	`anyone know why the scope could cause that to fail??`
`19:36.08`	`Nidhoggr`	`would he have to open up all the UDP ports for forwarding to his bzflag server, or does the server make the udp connection out?`
`19:36.25`	`TimRiker`	`port forward tcp/udp on -p and tcp on -pr and use -publicaddr example.com:<-p port>`
`19:36.38`	`Nidhoggr`	`cool`
`19:36.46`	`brlcad`	`ThreadingModel::LockThread lock; // bad`
`19:36.48`	`brlcad`	`LockThread lock; // good`
`19:36.53`	`brlcad`	`??`
`19:37.19`	`TimRiker`	`brlcad: what are you planning to make into threads?`
`19:37.28`	`brlcad`	`Nothing`
`19:37.30`	`larsl`	`brlcad: Didn't you need a template parameter for ThreadingModel?`
`19:37.43`	`brlcad`	`I removed the template param.`
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`19:38.15`	`brlcad`	`Actually, Tim, I've pondered adding it to bzfs for handling chat filtering`
`19:38.23`	`TimRiker`	`fearpasion710: if your bzfs does not have a -pr then you are up a creek. upgrade to a version that does.`
`19:38.38`	`TimRiker`	`brlcad: please don't.`
`19:38.49`	`brlcad`	`A long chat string on a large filter list can send bzfs NR`
`19:39.05`	`brlcad`	`anything cpu intensive will send it NR`
`19:39.15`	`brlcad`	`until it finally gets back around to the select`
`19:39.19`	`TimRiker`	`brlcad: then fix the filtering so it's quicker, or pass it through after x time processing.`
`19:39.36`	`scanline`	`chat filtering really shouldn't take that much CPU/memory...`
`19:39.56`	`Patlabor221`	`hmmmm shinny tank :)`
`19:40.08`	`brlcad`	`it doesn't use that much memory any more, but processing thousands of matches in real time is non-trivial`
`19:40.15`	`Chestal`	`bzfs shouldnt do anythign which takes a long time`
`19:40.22`	`Chestal`	`not more than very few ms`
`19:40.33`	`scanline`	`brlcad: maybe it's time to find a different algorithm?`
`19:40.43`	`brlcad`	`scanline: I'm open to suggestions`
`19:41.24`	`brlcad`	`regular expressions provide hundreds of thousands of potential checks for about as slim a cost as you are going to get`
`19:42.02`	`TimRiker`	`do you compile the whole mess into one regex?`
`19:42.05`	`brlcad`	`Right now, it's pretty good, but if I'm on a dual (and I am), it could easily take half the time by using my machine properly`
`19:42.25`	`brlcad`	`TimRiker: no, there are compiled expressions for each filter word/phrase`
`19:42.45`	`TimRiker`	`merging them might give better performance.`
`19:42.52`	`brlcad`	`It's not possible`
`19:42.57`	`brlcad`	`the expression is too big`
`19:43.02`	`TimRiker`	`anything is possible with regex. ;-)`
`19:43.20`	`brlcad`	`Well, yes, but I doubt most bzfs's run with a TB of available memory :)`
`19:43.24`	`TimRiker`	`don't merge them all then. merge in sets by length perhaps?`
`19:43.44`	`TimRiker`	`in sets by first letter?`
`19:43.53`	`brlcad`	`It already does that`
`19:44.05`	`Patlabor221`	`so am I shooting for 128x128 or 256x256 for a max size?`
`19:44.08`	`brlcad`	`it searches only bins that are grouped by first letter`
`19:44.10`	`TimRiker`	`one regex for all strings starting with w ?`
`19:44.18`	`brlcad`	`that's still too big`
`19:44.40`	`TimRiker`	`I'm not convinced, but perhaps so.`
`19:44.44`	`brlcad`	`a single expression can be upwards 256 chars uncommpiled`
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`19:44.53`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`'ello`
`19:45.15`	`brlcad`	`the bigger the expression gets, the memory usage of the compiled regular expression escalates`
`19:45.26`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~seen Rebel Chikorita`
`19:45.28`		`sn0w_d0ggy: i haven't seen 'rebel chikorita'`
`19:45.32`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hmm`
`19:45.36`	`brlcad`	`~seen Chikorita`
`19:45.36`		`chikorita <~Chikumz33@205.197.172.230> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 21h 42m 42s ago, saying: 'sowee L heh dat was 4 shootin mee earlier ;)'.`
`19:45.50`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`When was that??`
`19:45.58`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`ohhh`
`19:46.02`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`21 hours`
`19:46.07`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`42 minutes`
`19:46.11`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`42 secs`
`19:46.21`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`What about on bzflag`
`19:46.22`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`?`
`19:46.45`	`TimRiker`	`brlcad: nod`
`19:46.46`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`Well, Imma gonna go on ducati`
`19:46.57`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`chick's on`
`19:46.57`	`Mayhem`	`chiko was on 59999 about 30 mins ago`
`19:47.01`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`Leg's playing`
`19:47.08`	`brlcad`	`Tim: I'm sure there are ways to optimize it even further, but it's pretty darn good right now and it is .. after all .. just a word filter :)`
`19:47.14`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`so I wanna play with chick and my broder`
`19:47.16`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`'`
`19:47.30`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`bye brlcad`
`19:47.36`	`brlcad`	`merry? :)`
`19:47.43`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`19:47.43`	`brlcad`	`bye bye`
`19:47.46`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`heheheheheheheheheheheheehehehe`
`19:47.49`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`19:47.50`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`tim`
`19:48.17`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`How's this: So, I want to play with Chickorita and my brother, Legolas. ?`
`19:48.27`	`TimRiker`	`much better.`
`19:48.40`	`brlcad`	`If the filter is too intensive, they can use a smaller filter list or not use it altogether`
`19:48.53`	`TimRiker`	`~spell sence`
`19:48.59`		`possible spellings for sence: seance sense since Spence science sens fence hence pence`
`19:48.59`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`doh`
`19:49.02`	`brlcad`	`But I'd still like to fully utilize my CPUs ;)`
`19:49.06`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`sense`
`19:49.08`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`w/e`
`19:49.13`	`TimRiker`	`brlcad: agreed.`
`19:49.18`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`bye`
`19:49.20`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`ducati`
`19:49.27`	`brlcad`	`~d`
`19:49.29`	`TimRiker`	`brlcad: run two servers. ;-)`
`19:49.33`	`brlcad`	`lol Tim`
`19:50.01`	`TimRiker`	`I would like to have server spawned bots. that could use your cpu power up.`
`19:50.16`	`brlcad`	`Me too`
`19:52.10`	`brlcad`	`Soon. Soon enough, it will be possible.. I need to bash away at bzfs more so I can get a game api`
`19:55.18`	`brlcad`	`So the ThreadingPolicy:: scope problem will remain a mystery?`
`19:55.33`	`brlcad`	`nobody c++-worthy enough?`
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`19:58.19`	`Chestal`	`brlcad: how can I reproduce the error?`
`19:58.53`	`brlcad`	`add ThreadingModel::LockThread lock; somewhere in Singleton :)`
`19:59.06`	`brlcad`	`and just #include it in global.h or something`
`20:00.15`	`brlcad`	`hold.. lemme commit the working one`
`20:01.03`	`Chestal`	`ehm`
`20:01.06`	`CIA`	`03brlcad * 12bzflag/include (Singleton.h): got ThreadPolicy working; made ThreadPolicy class a non-template; fixed SingleThreaded scope problem and typo`
`20:03.33`	`captain_proton`	`brlcad: explain this threading policy thing`
`20:04.20`	`Patlabor221`	`http://www.bakadigital.com/BZ/BZIcons.zip`
`20:04.24`	`Patlabor221`	`256->16`
`20:04.41`	`brlcad`	`In the Singleton, it will create a ThreadLock object`
`20:05.03`	`brlcad`	`The existing SingleThreaded policy basically does nothing so the threadlock does nothing`
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`20:05.34`	`tapo`	`hi, got weird effects when creating simple maps. any map creators online?`
`20:06.10`	`brlcad`	`But it's then trivial to use the exact same interface and grab a semaphore/mutex in, say, a PosixThreaded policy that will protect the singleton`
`20:06.49`	`brlcad`	`then I can have singletons that are static and multithread protected`
`20:07.13`	`Chestal`	`brlcad: the malloc based creation seems to be a bit strange, I can see only the most exotic of uses`
`20:07.41`	`brlcad`	`the existing BZDB singleton, for example, can cause memory leaks and/or corruption of the singleton`
`20:08.43`	`brlcad`	`Chestal, quite true, it was just trivial to implement, the last remaining that I can think of would be something that utilized a static global or something similar that always exists`
`20:09.01`	`captain_proton`	`doodeedoo`
`20:09.03`	`captain_proton`	`http://sgi.com/visualization/onyx4/challenge/`
`20:14.25`	`Bagheera`	`...ooh, ooh, i want one, i want one......ooh, ooh, Mr Cotter, Mr Coter`
`20:14.37`	`Patlabor221`	`http://jeffm.bakadigital.com/BZ/2/256.png`
`20:15.02`	`Bagheera`	`swank`
`20:15.04`	`tapo`	`ok, the weird thing is, it is all ok, but I knew it was wrong.`
`20:15.25`	`Bagheera`	`hey tapo....whats wrong with your maps?`
`20:16.53`	*** join/#bzflag sure` (~tea\|tree@pD9E95D97.dip.t-dialin.net)
`20:17.04`	`tapo`	`Bagheera: 10 minutes ago I wanted to swear the coords in the maps were wrong. But now they are ok... puzzled`
`20:17.51`	`tapo`	`going to code some map effects, bye`
`20:17.53`	`*** part/#bzflag tapo (~tapo@213.7.228.93)`
`20:18.47`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`~bzflist`
`20:19.14`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`49 servers 85 players, and 40 in IRC. We're getting more popular again.`
`20:20.51`	`Tupone`	`captain_proton: know about open source for openGVS?`
`20:20.57`	`Patlabor221`	`http://jeffm.bakadigital.com/BZ/2/BZIcons2.zip`
`20:21.15`	`captain_proton`	`openGVS?`
`20:21.47`	`Tupone`	`a tool on top of openGL used for Synthetic Environment visualization`
`20:22.18`	`Tupone`	`is made by QuantumPro`
`20:22.41`	`Tupone`	`probably a CPU eating tool`
`20:22.54`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`You guys jibber alot`
`20:23.00`	`captain_proton`	`jibber?`
`20:23.00`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`in only`
`20:23.06`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`gab`
`20:23.09`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`talk`
`20:23.19`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~defenition jibber`
`20:23.29`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`nm`
`20:23.38`	`captain_proton`	`~spell jibber`
`20:23.42`		`possible spellings for jibber: jobber gibber jabber jibe giber jibbed fibber libber ribber`
`20:23.42`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`get me?`
`20:23.50`	`captain_proton`	`i think you mean jabber`
`20:23.57`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~meaning jibber`
`20:24.01`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`oh`
`20:24.04`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`20:24.30`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`You gab alot, in only like 20 minutes`
`20:24.32`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hehehehhehe`
`20:24.34`	`*** join/#bzflag mikep (~mikep@adsl-68-73-83-128.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net)`
`20:24.35`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`Men talk`
`20:24.37`	`mikep`	`n/nick`
`20:24.45`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hey leg`
`20:24.48`	`Tupone`	`captain_proton: www.opengvs.com`
`20:24.59`	`Legolas`	`~d`
`20:25.14`	`Legolas`	`~bzflist`
`20:25.20`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`doh`
`20:26.50`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`bye`
`20:30.01`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`bye`
`20:30.03`	`*** part/#bzflag sn0w_d0ggy (~gig1992@adsl-68-73-83-128.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net)`
`20:36.40`	`CIA`	`03jeffm2501 * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (bzflag.ico): windows Icon sans words`
`20:37.03`	`*** join/#bzflag orcburger (~topgunp38@68.73.83.128)`
`20:37.19`	`orcburger`	`hi`
`20:38.57`	`brlcad`	`MMmmaking me hungry`
`20:42.09`	`Patlabor221`	`captain_proton you around?`
`20:42.17`	`captain_proton`	`sortof`
`20:42.47`	`Patlabor221`	`http://jeffm.bakadigital.com/bunny.jpg`
`20:42.55`	`Patlabor221`	`that what I spoke to you of last eveening`
`20:43.30`	`captain_proton`	`intriguing`
`20:44.07`	`Patlabor221`	`tho I do find the shao-lin beaver funnyer`
`20:45.03`	`Bagheera`	`must be a rain storm coming......the gutters are beginning to fill up`
`20:45.43`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`So is that going on the Proj 24 page now :P`
`20:46.20`	`Patlabor221`	`ya never know`
`20:47.02`	`Patlabor221`	`ohh my, engrish and art, http://jeffm.bakadigital.com/sht_archer_f.jpg`
`20:47.57`	`captain_proton`	`heh`
`20:48.16`	`Patlabor221`	`sht_thief_f.jpg`
`20:48.22`	`Patlabor221`	`http://jeffm.bakadigital.com/sht_thief_f.jpg`
`20:48.56`	`Patlabor221`	`this one is funny too`
`20:48.57`	`Patlabor221`	`http://jeffm.bakadigital.com/sht_merchant_f.jpg`
`20:49.15`	`captain_proton`	`picaroon?`
`20:49.16`	`Patlabor221`	`"deal with a hope, you hear,, deal with it!!!!"`
`20:49.19`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`20:49.22`	`captain_proton`	`~dict picaroon`
`20:50.20`	`*** join/#bzflag brlcad (sean@chr160dhcp1509.chrchv01.md.comcast.net)`
`20:50.21`	`Patlabor221`	`Main Entry: 1pic�a�roon`
`20:50.22`	`Patlabor221`	`variant(s): or pick�a�roon /"pi-k&-'r�n/`
`20:50.22`	`Patlabor221`	`function: noun`
`20:50.22`	`Patlabor221`	`etymology: Spanish picar�n, augmentative of p�caro`
`20:50.22`	`Patlabor221`	`date: 1624`
`20:50.22`	`Patlabor221`	`1 : PIRATE`
`20:50.24`	`Patlabor221`	`2 : PICARO`
`20:50.52`	`captain_proton`	`i see`
`20:51.02`	`brlcad`	`Quien us un picaro?`
`20:51.14`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`The local worm now has a name. "Welchia". Evidently it hits Windows RPC. :(`
`20:51.58`	`brlcad`	`yeay for windows vulnerabilities`
`20:53.21`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`My windows boxen are off the net, but that's okay since I only use them for testing. The ibook and linux are doing just fine, Thank You.`
`20:55.36`	`*** join/#bzflag Tupone_ (~Tupone@ppp-82-84-96-88.cust-adsl.tiscali.it)`
`20:56.07`	`Mayhem`	`Welchia? you only just noticed it?`
`20:57.09`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`The IT people around here are located in the midwest. That's world HQ for the company. I've offered to do a full audit of the Information services at this plant, but nobody wants to pay to get it done.`
`20:57.44`	`Mayhem`	`The icmp floods from welchia have been causing me hassles for weeks.`
`20:58.25`	`Mayhem`	`they cause a lot of load with the amount of traffic generated, even though my linux routers are safe.`
`20:59.04`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`I finally had to track down the vector, since nobody knew how it was spreading. It appeared on one of my testing machines which doesn't have any net programs, and only occasionally accesses the server for files.`
`20:59.42`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`It was overloading the firewall, which finally got someone's attention around here ;)`
`20:59.46`	`Tupone`	`:) could someone regenerate some 1.9 server :)`
`21:00.11`	`Mayhem`	`yes, it tends to do that. Iternal machines are worse because they have a high-bandwidth link to the firewall :(`
`21:00.33`	`Tupone`	`:) version mismatch - 1.9.6`
`21:00.51`	`Mayhem`	`At one point a system was dropping 6milling ping packets an hour from internal machines :(`
`21:01.02`	`Mayhem`	`that was 6 million`
`21:01.06`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`That's what was happening. It somehow got onto the servers around here, and from there to the internal machines which all started flooding the firewall from the inside.`
`21:01.21`	`Mayhem`	`yep`
`21:02.01`	`Mayhem`	`just having a windoze box behind a firewall doesn't stop it getting worms, they just get infected by a different path`
`21:02.27`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`No one here knows what all the servers do, or what machines provice the services. It's rather a haphazard shop.`
`21:02.53`	`Mayhem`	`yikes`
`21:12.35`	`*** join/#bzflag fearpasion710 (~fearpasio@c-24-126-90-165.we.client2.attbi.com)`
`21:12.42`	`fearpasion710`	`can someone help me`
`21:13.10`	`fearpasion710`	`i keep on getting this error`
`21:13.13`	`fearpasion710`	`Player [0] accept() from 24.214.88.24:1779 on 7 Player Infinite [0] has joined from 24.214.88.24:1780 on 7 Player Infinite [0] on 7 removed: ECONNRESET`
`21:13.38`	`fearpasion710`	`what does ECONRESET mean??`
`21:13.53`	`TimRiker`	`fearpasion710: nick conflict? invalid group?`
`21:14.12`	`captain_proton`	`ECONRESET technically means error: connection reset`
`21:14.24`	`TimRiker`	`when bzfs detects an error, it closes the socket and forces the connection to reset. hence ECONNRESET`
`21:14.26`	`fearpasion710`	`oh`
`21:14.40`	`fearpasion710`	`how can i fix it`
`21:14.45`	`fearpasion710`	`all i did was add a new map`
`21:14.55`	`TimRiker`	`does the client crash?`
`21:15.01`	`fearpasion710`	`no`
`21:15.04`	`TimRiker`	`does it happen without the new map`
`21:15.13`	`fearpasion710`	`hold let me check`
`21:15.50`	`fearpasion710`	`no i can log in from the client!! with no problems`
`21:16.08`	`Tupone`	`fearpasion710: forget that message if is only one`
`21:16.25`	`fearpasion710`	`everyone that triesto get in it happens to them`
`21:16.38`	`*** part/#bzflag drinian (~drinian@pcp153139pcs.hamntn01.nj.comcast.net)`
`21:17.00`	`fearpasion710`	`it was working Fine untill i added a new map!`
`21:17.12`	`Tupone`	`fearpasion710: have you tried more -d`
`21:18.01`	`fearpasion710`	`yes`
`21:18.06`	`TimRiker`	`sounds like a bad map. they can be too large, or have messed up teleporters of buildings at 0,0,0,0 or on top of bases, etc. there are a log of Bad Things in maps that bzfs does not detect.`
`21:18.24`	`fearpasion710`	`oh`
`21:18.25`	`fearpasion710`	`ic`
`21:18.43`	`fearpasion710`	`ok well thanks!!`
`21:18.47`	`Nidhoggr`	`I've gotten some bad maps from people, so it's pretty common.`
`21:18.53`	`brlcad`	`That reminds me of the next thing to rip out of bzfs.cxx...`
`21:18.54`	`fearpasion710`	`oh`
`21:19.03`	`Nidhoggr`	`we are up to 15 admins on secretplace.`
`21:20.01`	`Nidhoggr`	`what are you ripping out, learner?`
`21:20.14`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`It looks like hair. ;)`
`21:20.24`	`Nidhoggr`	`:)`
`21:20.49`	`captain_proton`	`bzfs is indeed hairy`
`21:21.13`	`Nidhoggr`	`I'll second that.`
`21:21.21`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`And some of the participants are a little hoary. ;)`
`21:21.36`	`*** join/#bzflag Ramasan (~cap@pD9E8E657.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`21:21.37`	`Nidhoggr`	`~dict hoary`
`21:22.52`	`Ramasan`	`lo what is a semi metric?`
`21:23.39`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`With a doctorate in theology, I would have expected you to get that one. ;)`
`21:23.53`	`Nidhoggr`	`:)`
`21:24.07`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`or should I call you Rev Nid? ;)`
`21:24.13`	`captain_proton`	`heh`
`21:24.27`	`Nidhoggr`	`actually, my title is "Most Venerable Father" which totally scares me sometimes.`
`21:24.38`	`Nidhoggr`	`and makes me laugh`
`21:24.40`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`~dict venerable`
`21:24.54`	`Ramasan`	`~dict semi metric`
`21:24.55`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Sounds hoary to me ;)`
`21:25.09`	`Nidhoggr`	`that, it does`
`21:25.26`	`Ramasan`	`~dict semi norm`
`21:26.00`	`Ramasan`	`~dict hausdorf`
`21:26.53`	`Ramasan`	`~lart`
`21:27.01`	`*** part/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se)`
`21:27.04`	`[dmp]`	`hehe, somebody met prodan :)`
`21:27.41`	`Tupone`	`robot does not work any more: udp changes? lag is even 2000 msec.`
`21:28.01`	`Ramasan`	`then clean up the ip stack`
`21:28.03`	`brlcad`	`Finally the complaints come rolling in ;)`
`21:28.52`	`Tupone`	`brlcad: you see the same?`
`21:29.02`	`brlcad`	`No, I just see you`
`21:30.27`	`Ramasan`	`hm what is the current stable version?`
`21:30.34`	`Tupone`	`This bot are so sensible to network code changes`
`21:30.55`	`Tupone`	`1.7g3`
`21:31.04`	`[dmp]`	`g3? isnt it g2?`
`21:31.13`	`Patlabor221`	`cell, you know how to find out, stop playing`
`21:31.29`	`Tupone`	`server is g3, client g2 == g3`
`21:31.48`	`[dmp]`	`Noted :)`
`21:32.14`	`Patlabor221`	`and stop trying to impersonate others, it never works, and makes you look even stupider`
`21:32.56`	`captain_proton`	`Patlabor221: you really think he's going to listen?`
`21:33.07`	`Patlabor221`	`no, but I have to try before I ban him`
`21:33.13`	`Spiff`	`"Correct a fool and he will hate you."`
`21:33.29`	`Patlabor221`	`thank you quotemaster spiff`
`21:33.36`	`Nidhoggr`	`are there any plans to make admin stuff easier on the clients? like bzadmin where you find the person's name with arrow, and use F5 or F6 to kick/ban?`
`21:33.47`	`Spiff`	`You're quite welcome. ;-)`
`21:34.02`	`Patlabor221`	`that was sarcasm`
`21:34.26`	`bryjen`	`Nidhoggr: press O in the client to get server commands, use up and down arrow to select a command`
`21:34.34`	`Patlabor221`	`I would hope so, we were laying it on pretty thick`
`21:34.50`	`Nidhoggr`	`cool, thanks bryjen`
`21:35.38`	`bryjen`	`careful with that tho, its very easy to /kick or /ban somebody on accident`
`21:35.49`	`CIA`	`03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (playing.cxx): fixed segfault on joining twice with robots`
`21:35.50`	*** part/#bzflag sure` (~tea\|tree@pD9E95D97.dip.t-dialin.net)
`21:35.55`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`As many of us have found out.`
`21:36.00`	`Nidhoggr`	`nod`
`21:36.10`	`Nidhoggr`	`I think scipio accidentally /kicked longdon`
`21:36.23`	`Ramasan`	`Patlabor221:ok, i make a bread with cheese and eggs and put it all into the micro wave oven`
`21:36.31`	`Nidhoggr`	`he didn't rejoin... so scipio felt terrible.`
`21:36.37`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`quol regularly kicks a few extra people when he's having a hard time zeroing in. ;)`
`21:36.46`	`Nidhoggr`	`heh`
`21:36.57`	`Patlabor221`	`I'm very happy for you., but really, please take it somewhere out.`
`21:37.02`	`Spiff`	`LoL Tyrone. :)`
`21:37.23`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Careful bry, or I'll have to reveal more secrets about you. ;)`
`21:37.33`	`[dmp]`	`bryjen, i did that 3 times .. Now "o" is mapped far far away :)`
`21:37.56`	`brlcad`	`o was a horrible default choice`
`21:38.21`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Try using f12 ;{)`
`21:38.24`	`brlcad`	`especially if you use the keyboard controls a lot`
`21:38.24`	`[dmp]`	`Personally I think it should never default to kick nor ban.. lagstats is fine`
`21:38.39`	`Nidhoggr`	`nod.. true dmp`
`21:38.39`	`brlcad`	`lagstats is what it should remain, imo`
`21:38.49`	`[dmp]`	`yeah.`
`21:38.51`	`brlcad`	`changing just because I authenticate is rather annoying`
`21:38.57`	`[dmp]`	`I liked it there.`
`21:39.04`	`[dmp]`	`Thats when i kick people :)`
`21:39.20`	`*** kick/#bzflag [Ramasan!~JeffM@208.48.199.202] by Patlabor221 (lets just help you on your way.)`
`21:39.20`	`*** join/#bzflag Ramasan (~cap@pD9E8E657.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`21:39.21`	`[dmp]`	`o<return> for lagstats is nice, as long as you're a normal user :)`
`21:39.31`	`brlcad`	`if I authenticate for a league match so I can start the clock, I can't check lagstats`
`21:39.35`	`bryjen`	`[dmp]: that's what got me. I meant to do a /lagstats, by it had changed the /kick after I'd identify'ed, so I did O ENTER, and kicked someone :(`
`21:39.41`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+b !cap@*.t-dialin.net] by Patlabor221`
`21:39.41`	`*** kick/#bzflag [Ramasan!~JeffM@208.48.199.202] by Patlabor221 (jerk)`
`21:40.05`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't think our cappy is going to germany any time soon`
`21:40.22`	`brlcad`	`plus changing it then mmakes the interface modal, which it should strive to never be`
`21:40.57`	`[dmp]`	`bryjen, i was lucky, i knew the one i kicked rather good. So it was kinda funny. But I dont want to risk doing it again.`
`21:41.12`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`brlcad: That's very MAC HIG of you ;)`
`21:41.51`	`brlcad`	`it's a rather humane interface of me`
`21:42.15`	`bryjen`	`hmm`
`21:42.33`	`Spiff`	`Wait! There is no panic button!`
`21:42.34`	`Spiff`	`;)`
`21:42.38`	`bryjen`	`F12`
`21:42.38`	`Bagheera`	`kinda like kicking a dead horse there bryjen`
`21:42.55`	`brlcad`	`bryjen: not near as effective as /poll ban learner`
`21:43.11`	`bryjen`	`sometimes you gotta hit 'em more than once`
`21:43.20`	`brlcad`	`<PROTECTED>`
`21:43.28`	`Bagheera`	`you can /kick a horse to water, but you cant /ban him`
`21:43.32`	`Spiff`	`I suppose F12 is pretty close to a panic button.`
`21:43.37`	`Nidhoggr`	`heh`
`21:43.44`	`bryjen`	`~listkeys whale`
`21:43.45`	`brlcad`	`if you're going to go through the whole trouble to remove them, you might as well ban them temporarily`
`21:43.56`	`brlcad`	`~whaleslap bryjen`
`21:43.58`		`ACTION slaps bryjen upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh`
`21:44.03`	`bryjen`	`~jargon like kicking dead whales down the beach`
`21:44.04`		`i guess jargon like kicking dead whales down the beach is adj. Describes a slow, difficult, and disgusting process. First popularized by a famous quote about the difficulty of getting work done under one of IBM's mainframe OSes. "Well, you could write a C compiler in COBOL, but it would be like See: like kicking dead whales down the beach2`
`21:44.20`	`bryjen`	`Eww`
`21:44.39`	`Spiff`	`That is... errr... odd.`
`21:45.04`	`Mayhem`	`you guys seen the exploding whale movie?`
`21:45.16`	`Nidhoggr`	`yes`
`21:45.36`	`Mayhem`	`ah, I never get tired of that clip :)`
`21:46.56`	`Nidhoggr`	`it's pretty funny.`
`21:47.32`	`*** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~aec@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca)`
`21:47.42`	`[dmp]`	`ah the one, where they want to remove a whale by exploding it. And doing a slight overestimation of tnt? :)`
`21:48.07`	`Mayhem`	`yes... or rather, using tnt in totally the wrong way`
`21:48.40`	`[dmp]`	`Hi bzgirl`
`21:48.46`	`bzgirl`	`hi`
`21:48.52`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`There really isn't a proper way to use TNT to remove a dead whale.`
`21:49.16`	`[dmp]`	`but there is a fun way :)`
`21:50.11`	`Noodleman`	`heh`
`21:50.47`	`Spiff`	`OoOoO.. Noodleman speaks. :)`
`21:51.54`	`Noodleman`	`kicking whales down the beach II: this time it's not kicking whales down the beach I`
`21:54.13`	`Tupone`	`hi bzg`
`21:54.30`	`bzgirl`	`hi Tupone`
`21:58.00`	`Mayhem`	`Hello bzgirl!`
`21:58.49`	`Patlabor221`	`awww, freeciv has a roadmap.... that must be soo nice`
`21:59.07`	`Noodleman`	`so, what if some fringe groups don't think i'm funny`
`21:59.14`	`Noodleman`	`i'll live with it :-)`
`21:59.38`	`bzgirl`	`Mayhem: havent seen you in ages, you were on holiday?`
`22:00.22`	`brlcad`	`it was being traitorous :)`
`22:00.42`	`brlcad`	`playing gasp another game`
`22:02.00`	`Noodleman`	`i do have lots of 3D virtual careers`
`22:02.17`	`bryjen`	`duck season!`
`22:02.25`	`Noodleman`	`rabbit season!`
`22:02.45`	`Mayhem`	`bzgirl: um, not really, just a bzbreak I guess :)`
`22:03.00`	`bryjen`	`Ok, but does he shoot you now, or wait 'till you get home?`
`22:03.04`	`Mayhem`	`brlcad: :p`
`22:03.10`	`Noodleman`	`shoot me now!!`
`22:03.18`	`bryjen`	`~shoot Noodleman`
`22:03.20`		`ACTION shoots Noodleman in the head.`
`22:03.20`	`Noodleman`	`blam`
`22:03.41`	`Noodleman`	`ok, let's try that again, i'll start...`
`22:03.42`	`bryjen`	`:)`
`22:03.45`	`Noodleman`	`:-P`
`22:04.46`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/doc (protocol.txt): one way udp`
`22:05.44`	`bryjen`	`Noodleman: http://www.nutclub.org/ ?`
`22:06.35`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`22:06.38`	`bryjen`	`ack. nowhere on that page does it say Evansville. hrm`
`22:06.45`	`Noodleman`	`have you been to the fall festival?`
`22:06.53`	`bryjen`	`Yes`
`22:07.13`	`Noodleman`	`this is the first time i've ever heard about it`
`22:07.26`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`bry, check the lower right hand corner.`
`22:07.31`	`bryjen`	`ooop. In the weather thingy`
`22:07.35`	`Noodleman`	`and isn't it supposed to be the 2nd largest outdoor event worldwide?`
`22:08.10`	`bryjen`	`i just did "find on page" and it didn't. Mozilla needs glasses. :)`
`22:08.31`	`CIA`	`03atupone * 12bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): fixed falling through base`
`22:08.36`	`bryjen`	`Noodleman: I wouldn't think so, but who knows?`
`22:09.06`	`Noodleman`	`that's what i've been told by several people`
`22:09.23`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`How are they measuring largest?`
`22:09.30`	`Noodleman`	`but i refuse to try any of those brain sandwiches :-)`
`22:09.47`	`Noodleman`	`i have no idea how they measure it`
`22:11.11`	`Noodleman`	`deep fried chocolate cookie dough`
`22:11.17`	`Noodleman`	`now i've heard of everything`
`22:12.05`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`They're deep frying everything these days (deep fried snickers bars)`
`22:13.29`	`bryjen`	`i'd heard of veggie burgers, but veggie corn dogs?`
`22:13.30`	`bzgirl`	`TyroneFHornigh: deep freid pickles are really good`
`22:13.51`	`Noodleman`	`bryjen: oh yeah, those are the best :-)`
`22:13.59`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`I'll take your word for that bzg :)`
`22:14.26`	`bryjen`	`they'll T/Fry anything once :)`
`22:14.56`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`The veggie corn dogs in the supermarket aren't particularly appetizing. I'll stick with the artichoke hearts in garlic beer batter.`
`22:16.04`	`*** part/#bzflag bzgirl (~aec@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca)`
`22:16.27`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`I guess she's not fond of garlic ....`
`22:16.31`	`bryjen`	`Eww "Dirt & Worms" I'm hoping that's a nickname for something. But if that's what it looks like, I don't think I'd try it.`
`22:16.53`	`brlcad`	`My ghod, I would have never thought of deep frying a pickle`
`22:17.01`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`I think that's a dessert made out of chocolate pudding and gummy worms.`
`22:19.30`	`Mayhem`	`deep fried pizza`
`22:19.58`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`How do you make a pizza more greasy than it already is?`
`22:20.01`	`Mayhem`	`any local chippie will do that on request`
`22:20.02`	`bryjen`	`losta greasy food + carnival rides = ...`
`22:20.32`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Southern California Exposition ;)`
`22:21.04`	`brlcad`	`I can picture gummy worms in pudding, no problem with a veggie corn dog, even monkey brains.. but a pickle?? It's a fermented cucumber..`
`22:22.01`	`Big_Barrel`	`~ducati6`
`22:22.19`	`Big_Barrel`	`~ducati9`
`22:22.26`	`bryjen`	`i don't think they're monkey brains. just cow (but i could be wrong)`
`22:22.50`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Probably cow. Try to avoid mad cow disease though. ;)`
`22:24.10`	`bryjen`	`6 mooo`
`22:24.32`	`bryjen`	`no, wait. sick cows should probly be 3 mooo`
`22:24.41`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`22:25.36`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`03mooocough cough`
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`22:28.03`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`13hi jolly`
`22:28.11`	`jolly`	`hello :)`
`22:28.14`	`bryjen`	`Noodleman: are you on the east / south side of Evansville ?`
`22:28.33`	`Noodleman`	`south`
`22:29.02`	`Noodleman`	`mõØfÕЯŠ <- sick multilingual dogcow`
`22:29.21`	`bryjen`	`and east of 41 ?`
`22:29.33`	`Noodleman`	`west of 41`
`22:29.41`	`Noodleman`	`but the address is SE i think`
`22:29.49`	`bryjen`	`hmm`
`22:30.04`	`Noodleman`	`what is the demarcator for W and E?`
`22:30.08`	`bryjen`	`main street (downtown) is the west/east divider`
`22:30.25`	`Noodleman`	`ok, i am east of main street`
`22:30.56`	`bryjen`	`ah. the diagonal streets near downtown are NW / SE`
`22:31.11`	`bryjen`	`or is it NE / SW`
`22:31.16`	`bryjen`	`whateva`
`22:31.31`	`jolly`	`so is anyone watching the yankees/red sox game tonight? :)`
`22:31.34`	`Noodleman`	`i don't know; been here too long yet :-)`
`22:31.52`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`And so we hear from the Boston crowd. ;)`
`22:31.56`	`jolly`	`hehe :)`
`22:32.00`	`Noodleman`	`haven't*`
`22:33.03`	`jolly`	`i never watch baseball but i might be motivated to watch tonight, heh`
`22:33.21`	`bryjen`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:33.28`	`jolly`	`heh`
`22:33.29`	`Spiff`	`'lo jolly. :)`
`22:33.34`	`jolly`	`hi :)`
`22:33.36`	`jolly`	`go sox!!`
`22:33.57`	`jolly`	`heh`
`22:34.01`	`Spiff`	`S0x0rz sux0rz. ;-)`
`22:34.19`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`And so we hear from the midwest crowd. ;)`
`22:34.19`	`jolly`	`lol`
`22:34.32`	`Noodleman`	`i never watch baseball either`
`22:34.44`	`jolly`	`its quite intense here :)`
`22:34.47`	`Noodleman`	`i know just enough about it to play it and have fun`
`22:34.48`	`Spiff`	`It's kinda slow paced to watch.`
`22:35.02`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`I guess Spiff has a preference which isn't the Tigers. :P`
`22:35.03`	`jolly`	`yeah, i don't like watching it either. but its my duty, hehe`
`22:35.14`	`Noodleman`	`and have fun messing with cardinals or royals fans :-)`
`22:35.20`	`Spiff`	`Hmmm. Duty before pleasure I guess.`
`22:35.25`	`jolly`	`:)`
`22:36.18`	`Noodleman`	`if you've got a cardinals fan, say "go royals!"`
`22:36.23`	`Noodleman`	`and vice versa :-)`
`22:36.53`	`jolly`	`heh`
`22:39.32`	`Spiff`	`Wanna play a real sport? Play soccer. ;)`
`22:39.52`	`Noodleman`	`those guys are way too rough`
`22:40.00`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`These people are talking about watching, not playing. I prefer beach volleyball for playing.`
`22:40.01`	`Noodleman`	`and rugby is worse`
`22:40.05`	`Spiff`	`OoOoO.. or Rugby!`
`22:40.05`	`Patlabor221`	`naw, play hockey`
`22:40.06`	`Spiff`	`LoL`
`22:40.06`	`Spiff`	`Yep.`
`22:40.08`	`Patlabor221`	`socker on speed :)`
`22:40.10`	`Spiff`	`Rugby r0x0rz.`
`22:40.29`	`Spiff`	`I like watching soccer.`
`22:40.31`	`Spiff`	`:)`
`22:40.33`	`jolly`	`for playing i like tennis. maybe football for watching :)`
`22:40.34`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`LaCrosse ;)`
`22:40.40`	`jolly`	`soccer is boring to watch!`
`22:40.48`	`Noodleman`	`i don't know anything about it, except what you see on pay-per-view ads`
`22:40.49`	`jolly`	`they hardly ever get a goal`
`22:40.53`	`Spiff`	`Depends on who is playing.`
`22:41.13`	`Spiff`	`Some of the Germany/Italy games have been really intense.`
`22:41.32`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`If you're concerned about who's playing, then beach volleyball is definitely the one to watch. ;)`
`22:41.37`	`jolly`	`lol`
`22:41.40`	`Noodleman`	`haha`
`22:42.04`	`Spiff`	`Once again, Tyrone.... depends on who's playing. ;)`
`22:42.04`	`jolly`	`how about golf? :)`
`22:42.05`	`Spiff`	`LoL`
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`22:42.48`	`Noodleman`	`golf is probably about as fun to watch as paint drying or bread rising`
`22:43.09`	`Noodleman`	`i was about to say kernel compiles, but that's more exciting :-)`
`22:43.16`	`jolly`	`i agree :)`
`22:43.16`	`Spiff`	`Hehehe Noodle.`
`22:43.24`	`Patlabor221`	`golf is not a sport, it's an activity`
`22:43.33`	`Spiff`	`I dunno.. I think it's exciting... fascinating.. thrilling. Oh the suspense!!!!`
`22:43.34`	`Spiff`	`;)`
`22:43.56`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Hey pat, what's your definition of gymnastics?`
`22:44.25`	`jolly`	`gymnastics is without a doubt, a hardcore sport`
`22:44.56`	`Spiff`	`Yeah... and lotsa pretty girls do it.`
`22:44.59`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`I doubt that.`
`22:45.00`	`Spiff`	`Yep.. that's the sport for me!`
`22:45.03`	`Patlabor221`	`mens or wommens`
`22:45.18`	`Patlabor221`	`womens gymastics is a sport for those under 17`
`22:45.18`	`Spiff`	`True. The muscle control is fantastic.`
`22:45.30`	`Patlabor221`	`i hear onece you get boobs, your out`
`22:45.36`	`Spiff`	`I'm not 18 until December, Patlabor. :)`
`22:45.42`	`Spiff`	`The face is what counts anyway. :P`
`22:45.44`	`Patlabor221`	`and your not a girl`
`22:45.48`	`Spiff`	`LoL`
`22:45.51`	`jolly`	`i fit that category, heh`
`22:45.55`	`Spiff`	`That's not what I meant! Hehe.`
`22:45.56`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`spiff is getting boobs?`
`22:46.01`	`jolly`	`haha`
`22:46.04`	`Noodleman`	`LOL`
`22:46.07`	`Patlabor221`	`that's kinda scary spiff`
`22:46.08`	`jolly`	`*scary thought`
`22:46.12`	`Spiff`	`Nah.. those woulkd cover up my big ripped chest muscles.`
`22:46.18`	`Patlabor221`	`perhaps you should get some sort of cream for that.`
`22:46.31`	`Patlabor221`	`pshhh, naw he's not vain`
`22:46.36`	`Spiff`	`;)`
`22:46.41`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Avoid the THC creams though, they might have the wrong effect. ;)`
`22:46.43`	`Spiff`	`Well.. when you insult my manhood... 0:)`
`22:46.51`	`jolly`	`lol`
`22:46.55`	`Patlabor221`	`gymnastics does take still and determination`
`22:47.01`	`Spiff`	`That it does.`
`22:47.08`	`Patlabor221`	`golf involves a freakin CART for cryin out loud`
`22:47.09`	`Spiff`	`And suuuuuuuuuuper well trained muscles.`
`22:47.16`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`There's no legitimate scoring though.`
`22:47.25`	`Patlabor221`	`currling,t hat's the shiznit right there`
`22:47.31`	`Noodleman`	`haha`
`22:47.40`	`Noodleman`	`what is there to curling, anyways?`
`22:47.43`	`Patlabor221`	`or hornoosing`
`22:48.01`	`Patlabor221`	`up untill recently you got points for drawing blood on the other teams defenders`
`22:48.05`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Throwing the caber, that's the one to watch. ;)`
`22:48.07`	`Spiff`	`The trick is... we're talkin' about the kind of muscles that take years to develop. Not the big good looking ones that you can develop within a year.`
`22:48.57`	`jolly`	`yeah, when i was younger i could hardly stay on the bars for more than like 2min without it killing`
`22:48.59`	`Noodleman`	`i personally don't think big, ripped muscles make a man attractive to the ladies as much as people like to say`
`22:49.05`	`Patlabor221`	`then slap on some skates and get out there spiff`
`22:49.13`	`jolly`	`haha`
`22:49.17`	`Spiff`	`LoL Patlabor`
`22:49.24`	`jolly`	`interesting Noodle`
`22:49.31`	`Spiff`	`That's why I'm not going over 17" biceps, Noodleman.`
`22:49.32`	`Patlabor221`	`hockey is good for the soul`
`22:49.37`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`We can ask the only person here, who might have a legitimate answer.`
`22:49.43`	`Spiff`	`After that I start looking like some sort of gorilla.`
`22:49.44`	`jolly`	`:)`
`22:49.58`	`jolly`	`that would be a tad intimidating, lol`
`22:50.05`	`Spiff`	`LoL :)`
`22:50.37`	`Patlabor221`	`it's best not to crush your human female companions`
`22:50.52`	`jolly`	`yeah, we don't like that :)`
`22:50.56`	`Spiff`	`Quite true. Ouch.`
`22:51.00`	`Noodleman`	`heh`
`22:51.19`	`Spiff`	`It's nice to be able to carry 'em over mud puddles and stuff tho. ;-)`
`22:51.38`	`Noodleman`	`do you have experience with that?`
`22:52.06`	`Spiff`	`Mmm hmm.`
`22:52.11`	`Noodleman`	`heh`
`22:52.14`	`jolly`	`lol. yeah right :)`
`22:52.51`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`http://www.rawbw.com/~svw/superman.html`
`22:52.52`	`Spiff`	`It's not like I did it to be cool. Just being funny.. ya know.. a girl's wearing flip flops... :)`
`22:53.20`	`Spiff`	`funny/helpful that is.`
`22:53.43`	`jolly`	`they couldn't get around the puddle? :)`
`22:55.05`	`Spiff`	`Noooo. We're talkin' some semi-flooded streets. You need to live in Northern Indiana for a few months. LoL`
`22:57.18`	`Spiff`	`Tyrone... where did you dig up such an odd site anyway?`
`22:57.22`	`jolly`	`nice article there Tyrone`
`22:57.24`	`jolly`	`lol`
`22:58.15`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`It's an old short story from Larry, which he allowed to be published on the net.`
`22:58.26`	`brlcad`	`hi jolly :)`
`22:58.32`	`jolly`	`hey learner :)`
`23:02.13`	`*** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@ppp-82-84-96-88.cust-adsl.tiscali.it)`
`23:04.40`	`Spiff`	`Mandi's coming home on Sunday! :D`
`23:20.05`	`Spiff`	`I think I'm going to make hay.. errr.. play bball while the sun shines... err.. goes down. :)`
`23:26.03`	`TimRiker`	`Patlabor221 sings the songs that remind him of the good times`
`23:31.37`	`Patlabor221`	`I did have a wisky drink, then a lauger drink, then a vodka drink`
`23:34.12`	`Patlabor221`	`hmmm a cape cod does sound good`
`23:36.47`	`*** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~aec@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca)`
`23:37.11`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`welcome back, did you deep fry some pickles for dinner? ;)`
`23:37.50`	`bzgirl`	`no, I used to eat them in the pub though`
`23:37.57`	`bzgirl`	`it reallly is good`
`23:45.41`	`bzgirl`	`~seen jolly`
`23:45.41`		`jolly <~hjjj@jvnineteen.ne.client2.attbi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 47m 9s ago, saying: 'hey learner :)'.`
`23:47.39`	`*** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-226-187.dialup.innercite.com)`
`23:48.43`	`brlcad`	`I have trouble believing you bzg..`
`23:49.05`	`brlcad`	`I'll eat just about anything, but I've never heard of a deep fried pickle..`
`23:49.22`	`brlcad`	`Is it breaded or something?`
`23:49.25`	`bzgirl`	`dont fear what you do not understand`
`23:49.33`	`brlcad`	`heh`
`23:49.34`	`bzgirl`	`its battered yes`
`23:49.51`	`captain_proton`	`....deep fried pickle?`
`23:49.56`	`bzgirl`	`yes`
`23:49.58`	`brlcad`	`Dill pickle or sweet?`
`23:50.11`	`bzgirl`	`they are yummy, seriously`
`23:50.47`	`bzgirl`	`Dill pickles i guess they were`
`23:53.11`	`gonk-work`	`Patlabor221: do you get knocked down?`
`23:54.41`	`brlcad`	`hrm.. Well, at least they aren't sweet.. might have to try it some day, yet I've _never_ heard of any bar/restaurant/peddler selling/making them around here`
`23:55.21`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`It sounds like it's time for a road trip to Toronto. ;)`
`23:55.35`	`bzgirl`	`learner would I lie to you? :)`
`23:56.01`	`brlcad`	`yes.`
`23:56.03`	`brlcad`	`yes you would.`
`23:56.06`	`brlcad`	`:)`
`23:58.50`	`bzgirl`	`is it possible make Internet Explorer display something full screen without any navigation buttons, just the pic and window border?`
`23:59.42`	`scanline`	`yes`

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