irclog2html for #bzflag on 20031010

`00:02.14`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~seen learner`
`00:02.16`		`learner is currently on #bzflag (20h 56m 58s). Has said a total of 51 messages. Is idling for 32m 10s`
`00:02.16`	`*** part/#bzflag bzgirl (~aec@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca)`
`00:02.20`	`MrApathyCream`	`deleted up-ing`
`00:02.42`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~nickometer MrApathyCream`
`00:02.42`		`'MrApathyCream' is 99.830% lame, sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:02.47`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`00:02.58`	`creeperz`	`Ouch`
`00:03.01`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~nickmeter sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:03.14`	`creeperz`	`nicko*`
`00:03.19`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~nickometer sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:03.19`		`'sn0w_d0ggy' is 99.490% lame, sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:03.27`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`I just relized that`
`00:03.33`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`ngood my nick went up`
`00:03.43`	`creeperz`	`~nickometer creeperz`
`00:03.43`		`'creeperz' is 0.000% lame, creeperz`
`00:03.45`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`it used to be like 60.00%`
`00:03.49`	`creeperz`	`Hah!`
`00:03.58`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~nickometer Merry`
`00:03.58`		`'Merry' is 0.000% lame, sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:04.02`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`HAH!!!!!`
`00:04.03`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`heheheheheh`
`00:04.04`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`e`
`00:04.09`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`BOOYAH!!!`
`00:04.17`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`I'm Merry`
`00:04.23`	`MrApathyCream`	`nickometer /\/\r_4p47hy_(r34/\/\`
`00:04.28`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`my nick is sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:04.34`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`*~nickomter`
`00:04.35`	`MrApathyCream`	`~nickometer /\/\r_4p47hy_(r34/\/\`
`00:04.35`		`'/\/\r_4p47hy_(r34/\/\' is 99.9829% lame, mrapathycream`
`00:04.43`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`n;p;;`
`00:04.45`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`nlol`
`00:04.46`	`creeperz`	`:-P`
`00:04.47`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`00:04.56`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~nickometer [dmp]`
`00:04.56`		`'[dmp]' is 0.000% lame, sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:04.59`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`good`
`00:05.10`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`ibot, how do you do that stuff?`
`00:05.12`		`i haven't a clue, sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:05.15`	`creeperz`	`~nickometer BillGates`
`00:05.15`		`'BillGates' is 0.000% lame, creeperz`
`00:05.21`	`creeperz`	`LIARRRRR!!`
`00:05.23`	`Bags`	`~botsnack`
`00:05.23`		`Bags: aw, gee`
`00:05.39`	`creeperz`	`~botcrack`
`00:05.40`		`one too many hits on the botcrack pipe and look at me now!`
`00:06.00`	`creeperz`	`~botpot`
`00:06.01`		`Yea, it's great`
`00:06.02`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~nickometer botcrack`
`00:06.02`		`'botcrack' is 0.000% lame, sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:06.09`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hehe`
`00:06.20`	`MrApathyCream`	`replace_icon: error: icon file "..\..\..\src\bzflag\bzflag.ico" has no 32x32x16 icon -- failing!`
`00:06.20`	`MrApathyCream`	`Usage: Icon local_icon.ico`
`00:06.22`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~seen sn0w_kitty`
`00:06.23`		`sn0w_kitty <~Chikumz33@205.197.171.225> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 7h 50m 59s ago, saying: 'bbl'.`
`00:06.31`	`MrApathyCream`	`there is no 32x32 icon in there`
`00:06.33`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`ratz`
`00:06.38`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`I bet it's homework`
`00:06.49`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~seen Spiff`
`00:06.49`		`spiff <~Spiff@12-223-213-142.client.insightbb.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 6h 3m 17s ago, saying: 'Anyway.. I'm out for a bit. :D'.`
`00:07.00`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~seen brlcad`
`00:07.01`		`brlcad <sean@chr160dhcp1509.chrchv01.md.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2h 45m 40s ago, saying: 'EEP.. time to ride away before sunset!!'.`
`00:07.09`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`00:07.24`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~nickometer Roadkill`
`00:07.24`		`'Roadkill' is 0.000% lame, sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:07.29`	`MrApathyCream`	`mmmmm amber`
`00:07.34`	`MrApathyCream`	`so soothing...`
`00:07.44`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~nickometer sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:07.44`		`'sn0w_d0ggy' is 99.490% lame, sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:07.55`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~nickometer Merry`
`00:07.55`		`'Merry' is 0.000% lame, sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:08.06`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~nickometer Legolas`
`00:08.07`		`'Legolas' is 0.000% lame, sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:08.15`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~nickometer sn0w_panther`
`00:08.15`		`'sn0w_panther' is 38.000% lame, sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:08.16`	`Bags`	`its flashing a little too quickly to me soothing......more like, 10,9,8,7,6.,5...aw heck...boom`
`00:08.25`	`Bags`	`s/be/me`
`00:08.58`	`Bags`	`~nickometer snow_flake`
`00:08.58`		`'snow_flake' is 14.000% lame, bags`
`00:09.21`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail86.html`
`00:10.37`	`Bags`	`~nickometer snow_angel`
`00:10.37`		`'snow_angel' is 14.000% lame, bags`
`00:10.43`	`Bags`	`~nickometer snow_man`
`00:10.43`		`'snow_man' is 14.000% lame, bags`
`00:10.47`	`Bags`	`~nickometer snow_woman`
`00:10.47`		`'snow_woman' is 14.000% lame, bags`
`00:10.52`	`Bags`	`~nickometer snow_plow`
`00:10.53`		`'snow_plow' is 14.000% lame, bags`
`00:11.03`	`Bags`	`ok too much fun`
`00:13.37`	`MrApathyCream`	`Patlabor221, can you delete and up?`
`00:16.05`	`*** join/#bzflag Spiff (~Spiff@12-223-213-142.client.insightbb.com)`
`00:16.19`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`00:16.32`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:16.33`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`once`
`00:16.37`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`or w0men`
`00:16.44`	`Spiff`	`Gotta love power outages. I hope I didn't have any offline messages.`
`00:16.54`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`00:17.03`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~nickometer Spiff`
`00:17.03`		`'Spiff' is 0.000% lame, sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:17.13`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`~nickometer sn0w_elephant`
`00:17.13`		`'sn0w_elephant' is 38.000% lame, sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:17.15`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`00:17.18`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hehe spiff`
`00:17.23`	`Spiff`	`~nickometer sn0w_d0ggy`
`00:17.23`		`'sn0w_d0ggy' is 99.490% lame, spiff`
`00:17.25`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`that's what you signed on as`
`00:17.27`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`HAH!`
`00:17.28`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`hehehe`
`00:17.35`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`BBOOYYAAHH!!`
`00:17.39`	`Spiff`	`Even my fake username isn't as lame as yours. ;-)`
`00:18.14`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`It is`
`00:18.23`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`it is!`
`00:18.24`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`doh`
`00:18.30`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`llllllllllloooooooooool`
`00:18.38`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`why is my name more lame`
`00:18.49`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail25.html`
`00:18.59`	`Spiff`	`Dunno.. ask the bot. :)`
`00:19.05`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`BOT!`
`00:20.03`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`http://www.oofun.com/appleworm.shtml`
`00:20.29`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`http://www.oofun.com/appleworm.shtml`
`00:20.33`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`here`
`00:20.40`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`here`
`00:20.44`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`here`
`00:20.45`	`scanline`	`egads......`
`00:21.07`	`scanline`	`it's like a party in my mouth, and everyone's using AOL`
`00:22.00`	`learner`	`scanline: :)`
`00:22.08`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`learner?`
`00:22.15`	`learner`	`hi, Merry`
`00:22.16`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`00:22.19`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`learner?/`
`00:22.20`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`?`
`00:22.32`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`00:23.02`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`bbl`
`00:23.05`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`bye`
`00:23.25`	`learner`	`You know.. if you leave a glass teapot on the stove long enough, it's starts to fuse to the burner?`
`00:23.25`	`Spiff`	`How'd you do that, learner?`
`00:24.01`	`Spiff`	`Uhh yeah. It will also explode if you leave it there for a really long time. :)`
`00:24.17`	`Spiff`	`Once all of the water has evaporated that is.`
`00:24.42`	`learner`	`Especially if you leave it on how high, and all the water boils out 15 minutes ago or so, and you forget all about it..`
`00:25.25`	`learner`	`It was creaking and cracking, it's useless now. gotta go get a new one now. probably metal this time :)`
`00:25.49`	`learner`	`one that whistles endlessly at me when it's ready`
`00:26.01`	`Spiff`	`LoL`
`00:26.06`	`Spiff`	`My mom did the same thing...`
`00:26.14`	`Spiff`	`Oops. ;)`
`00:26.45`	`Spiff`	`Of course.. she was using the computer while it happened.. and our kitchen is like five large rooms away. :)`
`00:27.19`	`*** join/#bzflag Bags (~Bagheera@pool-162-84-18-69.sal.east.verizon.net)`
`00:29.26`	`MrApathyCream`	`bbiab`
`00:29.42`	`learner`	`oh, hey MAC`
`00:29.47`	`learner`	`question for you when you get back`
`00:30.03`	`Spiff`	`;)`
`00:31.21`	`*** join/#bzflag MrCooper (~daenzer@dclient80-218-117-230.hispeed.ch)`
`00:48.41`	`*** join/#bzflag Bags_ (~Bagheera@pool-162-84-18-69.sal.east.verizon.net)`
`00:50.35`	`*** join/#bzflag bryjen (bryjen@ky-owensboro1a-242.owboky.adelphia.net)`
`00:51.04`	`bryjen`	`~bzflist`
`00:53.18`	`learner`	`~quol`
`00:59.07`	`*** join/#bzflag Bags (~Bagheera@pool-162-84-18-69.sal.east.verizon.net)`
`00:59.15`	`*** part/#bzflag Legolas (~mikep@adsl-68-73-83-128.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net)`
`01:00.56`	`Bags`	`anybody out there have a quick solution to starting up my own 1.9 server?....public....`
`01:01.21`	`Bags`	`like, should i use a config file`
`01:01.27`	`Bags`	`and if so, what is the format`
`01:02.04`	`bryjen`	`the -conf file is just putting the stuff you'd put on the command line into a file`
`01:02.39`	`Bags`	`sounds good, since i ran out of room on the windows command line`
`01:03.15`	`Bags`	`is there a set format...or is it just a switch per line?`
`01:03.50`	`Bags`	`and, for the messages sent to users, should they be in qoutes?`
`01:03.51`	`bryjen`	`it doesn't even have to be 1 per line, but that may make it easier to read`
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`01:04.57`	`bryjen`	`hmm. i think so. like -srvmsg "Hello There!"`
`01:04.59`	`*** join/#bzflag sn0w_panther (~topgunp38@adsl-68-73-83-128.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net)`
`01:05.53`	`Bags`	`what list server should i point to.......or dont i even need to specify that`
`01:06.39`	`MrApathyCream`	`Spiff: never`
`01:06.48`	`bryjen`	`sometimes it works without. but its -public bzflist://list.bzflag.org/`
`01:06.53`	`bryjen`	`oops`
`01:07.01`	`bryjen`	`-publiclist`
`01:07.06`	`MrApathyCream`	`bags just put one option per line`
`01:07.18`	`bryjen`	`~nslookup list.bzflag.org`
`01:07.18`	`MrApathyCream`	`there's a bzfs_conf.html in misc that will do it for you`
`01:07.49`	`MrApathyCream`	`bags assuming you pull from cvs`
`01:08.13`	`MrApathyCream`	`learner?`
`01:08.33`	`bryjen`	`~seen learner`
`01:08.34`		`learner is currently on #bzflag (22h 3m 16s). Has said a total of 60 messages. Is idling for 15m 16s`
`01:09.29`	`sn0w_panther`	`~d`
`01:09.34`	`*** join/#bzflag fearpasion710 (~fearpasio@c-24-126-90-165.we.client2.attbi.com)`
`01:09.42`	`sn0w_panther`	`~bzflist`
`01:09.57`	`bryjen`	`ooo a victim!`
`01:09.57`	`fearpasion710`	`how can i make the world on a server change after a certain amount of time automatically?`
`01:10.32`	`purple_cow`	`set a timer on the server, tell the server to exit after one game, and run it in a loop from a script`
`01:10.34`	`learner`	`ah, hello mac`
`01:10.39`	`JBDiGriz`	`One can always count on bry for some sympathy :)`
`01:10.49`	`purple_cow`	`mac?`
`01:10.52`	`bryjen`	`huh?`
`01:11.06`	`fearpasion710`	`but how will the serve know whick map to load??`
`01:11.21`	`learner`	`You said yesterday while I was away that the Singleton worked?`
`01:11.39`	`learner`	`was this before or after changing it to ThreadPolicy::Lock()`
`01:12.04`	`fearpasion710`	`oh well.. :( thanks anyway guys`
`01:12.06`	`fearpasion710`	`bye`
`01:12.09`	`MrApathyCream`	`howdy`
`01:12.31`	`MrApathyCream`	`I put the inner class in there, and it compiled fine`
`01:12.41`	`learner`	`fearpasion: you could also use a script, bzadmin, and a cron job to restart the server after X amount of time`
`01:13.00`	`learner`	`inner class?`
`01:13.11`	`bryjen`	`bryjen.bzflag.org <- one shot decks anyone ?`
`01:13.38`	`MrApathyCream`	`trying to remember....`
`01:14.03`	`learner`	`there is a LockThread lock; line`
`01:14.37`	`learner`	`I want to/should be able to make that ThreadingModel::LockThread lock; but it fails for me`
`01:14.38`	`MrApathyCream`	`ThreadingPolicy::LockThread::Lock;`
`01:14.41`	`MrApathyCream`	`worked`
`01:14.49`	`MrApathyCream`	`er, ThreadingModel::....`
`01:14.50`	`MrApathyCream`	`sorry`
`01:15.10`	`learner`	`it work?!`
`01:15.13`	`learner`	`sigh`
`01:15.27`	`MrApathyCream`	`it's just your crappy non-bzflag dev platform of choice`
`01:16.51`	`learner`	`yes.. I should be using BeOS ;)`
`01:17.20`	`MrApathyCream`	`heh`
`01:17.42`	`MrApathyCream`	`#ifdef __BEOS__`
`01:17.44`	`MrApathyCream`	`#define private public`
`01:17.44`	`MrApathyCream`	`#endif`
`01:17.48`	`MrApathyCream`	`yah, great`
`01:18.30`	`learner`	`can you (or anyone) see why it _might_ fail/get confused?? the other template class works just fine`
`01:18.48`	`learner`	`hehe, true :)`
`01:20.45`	`MrApathyCream`	`shrug`
`01:21.44`	`learner`	`I think it has something to do with the typename, but I'm not that familiar with the c++ spec as it pertains to templates (beyond what I did)`
`01:22.41`	`MrApathyCream`	`well, being as its a BUG, i don't think the answer will be in the c++ spec`
`01:22.59`	`learner`	`it could be a bug that it works for you`
`01:22.59`	`*** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-224-246.dialup.innercite.com)`
`01:23.07`	`learner`	`or simply undefined`
`01:27.30`	`MrApathyCream`	`learner: what about this:`
`01:27.31`	`MrApathyCream`	`template < typename T, typename CreationPolicy = CreateUsingNew<T>, class ThreadingModel = SingleThreaded >`
`01:27.31`	`MrApathyCream`	`class Singleton : public CreationPolicy, public ThreadingModel {`
`01:28.08`	`*** join/#bzflag bzgirl (~aec@toronto-hs-64-26-176-100.s-ip.magma.ca)`
`01:29.21`	`learner`	`nope :/`
`01:29.27`	`MrApathyCream`	`that works too :)`
`01:29.33`	`MrApathyCream`	`silly mac`
`01:29.50`	`MrApathyCream`	`it's fun to be an os snop like the *nix folds :)`
`01:29.51`	`learner`	`I tried making it identical to the CreateUsingNew class, using template, and it fails`
`01:29.55`	`MrApathyCream`	`er snob`
`01:29.58`	`learner`	`heh`
`01:30.06`	`MrApathyCream`	`er folks`
`01:30.13`	`MrApathyCream`	`you get the idea`
`01:30.24`	`learner`	`for some reason it's not liking the class in a class`
`01:34.04`	`Bags`	`anybody alive and bored and want to see if they can cannot to my 1.9.5 server???`
`01:34.28`	`MrApathyCream`	`i'll try to can cannot to your server`
`01:34.48`	`Bags`	`whoops, yep a typo`
`01:35.10`	`bryjen`	`address?`
`01:35.14`	`MrApathyCream`	`you're not in the bzfist`
`01:35.25`	`MrApathyCream`	`use -publicaddr ?`
`01:35.30`	`bryjen`	`fist?`
`01:35.44`	`Bags`	`hmmm....i was here, that might be a lan thingy`
`01:35.45`	`MrApathyCream`	`~fishslap bryjen`
`01:35.48`		`ACTION slaps bryjen up side the head with a wet fish.`
`01:36.05`	`JBDiGriz`	`For a snob, you're not doing a very good job on making us believe your system is any good. ;)`
`01:36.32`	`Bags`	`fixing....`
`01:36.34`	`MrApathyCream`	`JBDiGriz, ?`
`01:36.43`	`MrApathyCream`	`no spell checker in xchat?`
`01:36.47`	`JBDiGriz`	`bzfist?`
`01:37.53`	`JBDiGriz`	`Hmmm, xchat, isn't that named for a windowing system somewhere? ;)`
`01:38.11`	`MrApathyCream`	`:}`
`01:38.51`	`MrApathyCream`	`beos?`
`01:39.15`	`bryjen`	`TheOS ?`
`01:39.43`	`bryjen`	`oo, oo, CP/M !`
`01:43.37`	`JBDiGriz`	`FreeBSD you numbskulls.`
`01:43.40`	`Bags`	`ug, it is on 162.84.18.69:5154, but it is not showing up like that in list.....must be pointing at the wrong server`
`01:49.21`	`bryjen`	`you did -public "Description" -publiclist bzflist://list.bzflag.org:5156/ -publicaddr 162.84.18.69:5154`
`01:52.42`	`*** join/#bzflag Bags_ (~Bagheera@pool-162-84-18-69.sal.east.verizon.net)`
`01:53.42`	`Bags_`	`any other ports i should forward besides 5154 ??`
`01:54.00`	`bryjen`	`Bags_: did you do -publicaddr 162.84.18.69:5154 ?`
`01:54.31`	`MrApathyCream`	`i don't think you put :5154 on there, unless that just changed`
`01:54.43`	`MrApathyCream`	`use -p 5154`
`01:54.58`	`MrApathyCream`	`and if it's 5154 you don't need to specify`
`01:55.13`	`bryjen`	`the list server calls back to the bzfs. it defaults to the 1.7 port 5155 unless you spec it on -publicaddr`
`01:57.52`	`Bags_`	`working....hold on....`
`01:58.10`	`Bags_`	`i did --->`
`01:58.28`	`Bags_`	`-publicaddr 162.84.18.69:5154`
`01:58.49`	`Bags_`	`-publclist bzflist://12.237.229.200`
`02:00.12`	`bryjen`	`and -public "Description"`
`02:00.41`	`Bags_`	`yes and that as well....`
`02:02.48`	`bryjen`	`Incompatible Server Version BZFS1905`
`02:03.39`	`Bags_`	`i pointing at the wrong list server?`
`02:03.52`	`bryjen`	`no. my client is 1.9.6`
`02:04.16`	`Bags_`	`cool, well, one step in the right direction`
`02:04.23`	`bryjen`	`hides you in the list, and won't connect if i manually enter the address`
`02:04.37`	`Bags_`	`ahh`
`02:05.23`	`Bags_`	`i guess Nidhoggr/Patl22 have not compiled 1.9.6 on to their site yet.....`
`02:05.57`	`Bags_`	`i just saw it in the list right now....so it has made it to the 1.9.5 list...i think...`
`02:06.19`	`bryjen`	`http://list.bzflag.org:5156/ < are you in there`
`02:06.51`	`bryjen`	`yes, you are :)`
`02:06.55`	`Bags_`	`yes, second line, death to the population`
`02:08.19`	`MrApathyCream`	`bryjen, tim is obsessed with this nat issue`
`02:09.05`	`Bagheera`	`ok, thats for the help guys......i will play local for a bit.....`
`02:09.12`	`Bagheera`	`thanks`
`02:09.32`	`Bagheera`	`and wait for things to clear up`
`02:10.17`	`bryjen`	`MrAC: hmm?`
`02:14.54`	`bryjen`	`JBDiGriz: so is it a shiny new box or are you recycling ?`
`02:15.52`	`bryjen`	`~weather kowb`
`02:18.54`	`bryjen`	`that's not overcast pelting the roof...`
`02:26.59`	`learner`	`heheheh`
`02:27.24`	`JBDiGriz`	`refurbished box, smaller footprint than a deskside`
`02:29.01`	`*** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@host-224-246.dialup.innercite.com)`
`02:31.02`	`bryjen`	`Pentium, PowerPC, Sparc ?`
`02:31.19`	`JBDiGriz`	`Pentium`
`02:31.37`	`creeperz`	`Is an IQ of 118 good or bad?`
`02:31.50`	`JBDiGriz`	`It doesn't make any difference.`
`02:32.04`	`creeperz`	`I'm just wondering`
`02:32.26`	`DTRemenak`	`The concept of IQ is flawed`
`02:34.47`	`JBDiGriz`	`Do we have a 1.9.6 tag? I haven't heard that we need another distribution.`
`02:36.38`	`fiberchunks`	`har har, don't get tested, that way... you'll always be 'off the charts' ;)`
`02:37.01`	`bryjen`	`apparently we've got a 1906 protocol version`
`02:39.19`	`JBDiGriz`	`I just updated with no problem and no wait.`
`02:42.54`	`JBDiGriz`	`bry, your server feels like molasses when driving around, have you been playing with the params?`
`02:43.31`	`bryjen`	`Wow. Big Fat Ugly Notice: "SourceForge.net is currently in read-only mode."`
`02:43.52`	`bryjen`	`hmm chmod +w sf.net`
`02:44.07`	`JBDiGriz`	`You don't have permission`
`02:44.36`	`DTRemenak`	`that's better than the old "Site down for maintenance. Please return later"`
`02:44.56`	`bryjen`	`JBDiGriz: my 1.9 ?`
`02:45.07`	`JBDiGriz`	`yes`
`02:45.33`	`bryjen`	`hmm. lemme try`
`02:46.35`	`bryjen`	`Works OK for me (tm)`
`02:47.15`	`JBDiGriz`	`It just feels slow`
`02:47.36`	`bryjen`	`try again?`
`02:48.23`	`JBDiGriz`	`Compare it to brlcad or xmission`
`03:14.17`	`learner`	`MAC: ping`
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`04:00.52`	`Bagheera`	`pretty sad when the first two people to show up on your server, you have to ban`
`04:03.14`	`Bagheera`	`~botsnack`
`04:03.14`		`aw, gee, Bagheera`
`04:03.23`	`Bagheera`	`good ibot`
`04:03.37`	`Bagheera`	`ibot what is pi`
`04:03.38`		`i guess pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091`
`04:03.56`	`Bagheera`	`ibot what is life`
`04:03.57`		`This just in.. life Sucks Less(tm)!`
`04:04.53`	`creeperz`	`~retard Bagheera`
`04:04.56`		`Bagheera, you're a freakin' retard!`
`04:05.26`	`creeperz`	`~kill Osama`
`04:05.31`		`ACTION slits Osama's throat`
`04:05.31`	`Bagheera`	`~whaleslap creeperz`
`04:05.36`		`ACTION slaps creeperz upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh`
`04:05.43`	`creeperz`	`Lol`
`04:06.44`	`Bagheera`	`ibot what is whaleslap`
`04:06.45`		`Bagheera: what are you talking about?`
`04:07.01`	`Bagheera`	`oh well`
`04:08.51`	`Quol`	`is anyone out there?`
`04:09.21`	`Quol`	`hey learner- learnt anything yet?`
`04:09.39`	`learner`	`I did, but I forgot it already`
`04:09.43`	`Quol`	`lol`
`04:09.48`	`Quol`	`how R ya buddy`
`04:10.13`	`learner`	`Could be better, but could be much worse, I'm doing pretty good. You?`
`04:10.29`	`learner`	`I noticed you seem to have solved the network problems`
`04:10.33`	`Quol`	`just killing some time - testing out an MSSQL 2000 TSQL script`
`04:10.53`	`Quol`	`ntakes 45 minutes to run through once, then a debug session, and thenwe try again:)`
`04:11.03`	`Quol`	`ya - friggen ISP`
`04:11.46`	`Quol`	`I will probably leave them - I still see packet loss though - don't know why (in bz that is, at the IP level I don't see any)`
`04:13.50`	`Quol`	`did you play much on my servers today? I guess the "lag" issues didn't resurface..`
`04:14.33`	`learner`	`I played for a little while and was <100 ms so I was happy`
`04:14.54`	`learner`	`the game was soured by who I was playing against, though, so I didn't play long`
`04:16.05`	`Quol`	`ohhh?`
`04:16.13`	`Quol`	`TK?`
`04:17.02`	`creeperz`	`Does the current version of BZFlag have to have the .conf part? Or can I just do it as a regular server like back in the day?`
`04:17.28`	`creeperz`	`Write it out in the .bat not in the .conf`
`04:18.31`	`*** join/#bzflag nmatrix9 (nmatrix_9@user-10lfa78.cable.mindspring.com)`
`04:18.38`	`nmatrix9`	`yo Big_Barrel`
`04:18.45`	`learner`	`no, not a tk, just not fun`
`04:18.58`	`Quol`	`ahhh`
`04:19.23`	`learner`	`I had more fun with your laggy ass yesterday :)`
`04:19.48`	`Quol`	`ha :)`
`04:20.11`	`learner`	`~quol`
`04:20.29`	`MrApathyCream`	`learner:pong`
`04:20.55`	`learner`	`woho mac, that's some lag you have there :)`
`04:21.07`	`MrApathyCream`	`not bad for two cans and a length of rope`
`04:21.13`	`learner`	`yep`
`04:21.36`	`learner`	`read up, it is a bug in gcc, but it was supposedly fixed years ago`
`04:21.51`	`bryjen`	`he was busy getting ventilated`
`04:22.08`	`MrApathyCream`	`but hey, we played for an hour or so, and the everything seemed to hang together`
`04:22.26`	`learner`	`heh`
`04:22.40`	`learner`	`Hello nmatrix9, welcome to #bzflag`
`04:22.50`	`nmatrix9`	`hey`
`04:22.58`	`bryjen`	`that server was built from a snapshot midday today`
`04:23.01`	`nmatrix9`	`anyone See Big_Barrel`
`04:23.03`	`MrApathyCream`	`coo`
`04:23.13`	`MrApathyCream`	`ship it`
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`04:24.17`	`MrApathyCream`	`nah, i just like the clothes`
`04:25.37`	`MrApathyCream`	`don't like my pasty white thighs?`
`04:25.38`	`bryjen`	`:)`
`04:25.43`	`learner`	`ha, Wee.. Singleton class works :)`
`04:26.19`	`MrApathyCream`	`uhoohh`
`04:28.57`	`Spiff`	`Wow... Apathy.... scary. :)`
`04:29.23`	`MrApathyCream`	`Spiff, huh?`
`04:29.34`	`Spiff`	`Your.. pasty white thighs?`
`04:29.35`	`Spiff`	`LoL`
`04:29.36`	`MrApathyCream`	`ah`
`04:29.39`	`MrApathyCream`	`yes`
`04:30.03`	`MrApathyCream`	`well time to feed the horsies, bbiab`
`04:30.08`	`Spiff`	`At least keep a good tan! You'll never get any ladies with shiny white skin. ;)`
`04:32.04`	`captain_proton`	`i didn't know MrApathyCream was in the market`
`04:32.15`	`Spiff`	`He's married?`
`04:51.30`	`MrApathyCream`	`yuppers`
`04:51.45`	`MrApathyCream`	`44 years`
`04:53.08`	`Spiff`	`Ahh.. sorry.. didn't know. :)`
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`05:09.11`	`Spiff`	`http://cegullah.bakadigital.com/Winged2.jpg`
`05:09.30`	`Spiff`	`Is there anything particularly ugly about that?`
`05:09.44`	`Spiff`	`Any suggestions?`
`05:10.37`	`creeperz`	`0101,0001,01What is it?`
`05:10.47`	`creeperz`	`01,99?`
`05:11.00`	`Spiff`	`Creeperz... black font isn't readable in my client.. please change it. :)`
`05:11.02`	`creeperz`	`What is it*`
`05:11.07`	`creeperz`	`Sorry`
`05:11.07`	`Spiff`	`Much better.`
`05:11.15`	`Spiff`	`It's the back end of one of my spacecraft.`
`05:11.19`	`creeperz`	`I'm experimenting with Trillian`
`05:11.32`	`Spiff`	`Back/right technically.`
`05:11.39`	`creeperz`	`Hmm, nothing ugly from this angle`
`05:12.28`	`captain_proton`	`Spiff: its a bit...low poly`
`05:12.41`	`Quol`	`night all...`
`05:12.48`	`creeperz`	`See yu`
`05:12.52`	`creeperz`	`What are you using?`
`05:12.55`	`Spiff`	`Laterz Quol`
`05:13.16`	`Spiff`	`Yes, proton. :) That's why I'm looking for suggestions. :D`
`05:13.57`	`captain_proton`	`its also hard to really see it`
`05:14.02`	`captain_proton`	`try rendering against a black background`
`05:14.06`	`captain_proton`	`or at least something other than grey`
`05:14.17`	`Spiff`	`Hmmm... I haven't got to rendering yet. :\`
`05:14.43`	`captain_proton`	`whatever you did to generate that picture`
`05:14.55`	`Spiff`	`I just took a screenshot. :)`
`05:15.11`	`creeperz`	`/me claps`
`05:15.21`	`creeperz`	`:-)`
`05:15.25`	`creeperz`	`;-)`
`05:15.27`	`Spiff`	`Perhaps there's a way to set the bg in LW to black.. not sure tho.`
`05:15.44`	`Spiff`	`I'll get a better shot soon.. and then ask you for ideas. ;)`
`05:16.05`	`Spiff`	`In the meantime... I'm off to bed.`
`05:16.10`	`Spiff`	`Have a good night all.`
`05:16.17`	`creeperz`	`See yu`
`05:17.20`	`scanline`	`Spiff: you should switch to blender`
`05:17.29`	`captain_proton`	`indeed`
`05:18.18`	`learner`	`yes, you should`
`05:18.26`	`Spiff`	`I found the interface to be very confusing`
`05:18.38`	`scanline`	`Spiff: it has a very steep learning curve`
`05:18.45`	`scanline`	`but after you learn it, you'll probably like it`
`05:18.49`	`Spiff`	`So I'm told. :)`
`05:18.56`	`scanline`	`and it isn't commercial, so you won't be a nasty software pirate for using it`
`05:19.10`	`Spiff`	`The thing is... where do I learn? I tried the help pages... and got a bunch of errors.`
`05:19.10`	`learner`	`arrr`
`05:19.29`	`scanline`	`Spiff: there are about 1.21 billion tutorials on the 'net`
`05:19.45`	`scanline`	`and there's a new documentation project at blender.org that makes a nice reference`
`05:19.45`	`learner`	`and there's #blender too`
`05:21.01`	`Spiff`	`Perhaps I shall attempt it soon. :)`
`05:21.08`	`Spiff`	`When I feel like having my patience tried. ;)`
`05:23.21`	`Spiff`	`Anyway.. off to bed. Laterz.`
`05:23.32`	`MrApathyCream`	`wow even a version for the blender platform of choice`
`05:23.46`	`captain_proton`	`blender platform of choice? :-)`
`05:25.06`	`scanline`	`amiga?`
`05:28.00`	`MrApathyCream`	`franklin`
`05:37.06`	`MrApathyCream`	`well time for bed`
`05:37.09`	`MrApathyCream`	`l8r`
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`14:21.30`	`Bagheera`	`not nice biting the hand that feeds`
`14:22.24`	`brlcad`	`tastes like chicken`
`14:26.04`	`captain_proton`	`doodeedoo`
`14:27.37`	`Bagheera`	`nice forum topics today........said with complete sarcasism`
`14:36.14`	`Bagheera`	`~bzflist`
`14:38.33`	`cniV`	`ok`
`14:38.53`	`cniV`	`ive got the CGI version of bzfls done`
`14:39.01`	`cniV`	`should i just start a new module?`
`14:39.44`	`brlcad`	`cvs module?`
`14:39.49`	`brlcad`	`blech`
`14:39.56`	`cniV`	`yeah`
`14:40.08`	`cniV`	`well thats what tim suggested`
`14:40.12`	`cniV`	`but like...its one file`
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`14:41.50`	`brlcad`	`It would make more sense to put it in src/bzfls/ or misc/ for now`
`14:42.04`	`cniV`	`yeah thats what i thought too`
`14:42.17`	`brlcad`	`did he give you read/write to cvs?`
`14:42.21`	`cniV`	`yup`
`14:42.42`	`brlcad`	`I vaguely remember him saying it was pseudo "read-only" or was that someone else?`
`14:42.51`	`cniV`	`?`
`14:43.05`	`brlcad`	`must have been someone else`
`14:43.11`	`cniV`	`well considering i havent tried committing yet`
`14:43.14`	`cniV`	`i dunno =\`
`14:44.26`	`brlcad`	`how big/complex is it?`
`14:44.30`	`brlcad`	`perl I assum?`
`14:44.35`	`cniV`	`yeah`
`14:44.46`	`cniV`	`146 lines`
`14:44.58`	`brlcad`	`bah, don't make a module for that`
`14:45.26`	`cniV`	`is there some stuff i need to shove at the top of my file?`
`14:45.30`	`cniV`	`copyright etc?`
`14:45.34`	`brlcad`	`put it in one of the other two places for now`
`14:45.35`	`brlcad`	`yes`
`14:45.40`	`brlcad`	`there's a header and a footer`
`14:46.01`	`cniV`	`the footer is for vim people`
`14:46.05`	`brlcad`	`yes`
`14:46.15`	`cniV`	`and for coding in C++`
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`14:46.49`	`cniV`	`does the coding style apply to perl?`
`14:47.10`	`brlcad`	`I'd believe it applies to perl as well, don't see why not`
`14:47.15`	`cniV`	`ok`
`14:48.23`	`cniV`	`but like i doubt vim can handle perl comments`
`14:48.42`	`cniV`	`ok yes it can`
`14:48.43`	`brlcad`	`eh? sure it can`
`14:49.02`	`david_v`	`vim handles anything from C to PHP`
`14:49.14`	`david_v`	`including reserved words etc`
`14:49.17`	`david_v`	`syntax, of course`
`14:49.18`	`[dmp]`	`yeah, even my custom todo list :)`
`14:49.26`	`brlcad`	`hi david, dmp :)`
`14:49.26`	`david_v`	`yah yah ;)`
`14:49.31`	`david_v`	`hey brlcad`
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`14:52.01`	`Bagheera`	`feel the wave`
`14:52.08`	`[dmp]`	`hi learner, swedish`
`14:52.27`	`david_v`	`"swedish" eh ? :)`
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`14:54.13`	`cniV`	`hmm is this still copyright tim?`
`14:54.34`	`cniV`	`whos copyright?`
`14:55.24`	`brlcad`	`Having tim own the copyright on everything keeps things simple, but it's up to you`
`14:55.29`	`[dmp]`	`david_v, yeah - you :)`
`14:55.42`	`brlcad`	`Presently, everything is copyrighted by tim`
`14:55.48`	`cniV`	`ok i'll leave it that way`
`14:55.56`	`david_v`	`[dmp]: weird, i thought i was from Madagaskar. but ok :)`
`14:56.30`	`david_v`	`or was it India`
`14:56.35`	`brlcad`	`don't forget to update the ChangeLog :)`
`14:57.17`	`Bagheera`	`~bzflist`
`14:57.27`	`cniV`	`hehe ok`
`14:57.32`	`cniV`	`what else do i need?`
`14:58.02`	`brlcad`	`That's all that immediately comes to mind`
`14:58.20`	`brlcad`	`Probably a good idea to update the wiki wipi as well`
`14:58.52`	`[dmp]`	`Sometimes small webshops rock. I ordered a gift of my gf, which i wrote to them. So they actually wrapped it as a gift. (they dont normally do that, nor write that you can make them wrap it)`
`14:59.15`	`david_v`	`heh :)`
`15:01.17`	`cniV`	`wipi?`
`15:01.52`	`Bagheera`	`ibot what is wipi`
`15:01.53`		`http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/WorkInProgress`
`15:02.15`	`brlcad`	`~botsnack`
`15:02.15`		`brlcad: aw, gee`
`15:02.17`	`cniV`	`ah ok`
`15:03.19`	`cniV`	`hmmm`
`15:03.23`	`cniV`	`where to edit....`
`15:05.14`	`brlcad`	`bottom`
`15:12.43`	`[dmp]`	`wipi = Work In Process.. whats the last i ? idiot? :)`
`15:14.15`	`brlcad`	`sounds good to me :)`
`15:14.55`	`Bagheera`	`~facious`
`15:15.04`	`Bagheera`	`~spell facious`
`15:15.11`		`possible spellings for facious: facetious factious fascias faces fatuous fascia's famous face's foci's facings Fabio's furious vicious facer's ficos ficus gracious fices farces fichus fancies fallacious favors`
`15:15.42`	`Bagheera`	`~dict facetious`
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`15:40.01`	`cniV`	`hey tim`
`15:40.02`	`brlcad`	`howdy tim`
`15:41.07`	`Noodleman`	`boy, howdy! if it ain't Texas Tim! the rootin'est, tootin'est software developer of all time!`
`15:41.18`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
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`15:44.12`	`brlcad`	`howdy pat`
`15:45.57`	`Patlabor221`	`hello`
`15:51.06`	`Patlabor221`	`how's it going?`
`15:51.33`	`Noodleman`	`this days forecast is total crap!`
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`15:53.18`	`Spiff`	`Welcome to Indiana, Noodleman. ;-)`
`15:53.25`	`Noodleman`	`hehe`
`15:53.43`	`Spiff`	`If you lived in northern Indiana, every day's forecast would be total crap. :)`
`15:53.55`	`Noodleman`	`i was just quoting from strong bad, i have no idea what today's forecast is`
`15:54.09`	`Spiff`	`Ahhhh. ;)`
`15:54.54`	`Noodleman`	`the forecast does look a little crappy tho :-)`
`15:54.54`	`Spiff`	`Hmmm?`
`15:55.14`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`~weather ksan`
`15:55.27`	`Spiff`	`It's pretty nice here for a change... but it's supposed to get rainy this weekend. I just happen to be going to Illinois this weekend too. ;)`
`15:55.40`	`Patlabor221`	`how come noone told me knightmare got a new IP, resigned up, and is running around with lame ass derogitory sigs`
`15:56.03`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`I hadn't noticed it yet. You're clearly more alert than I am.`
`15:56.19`	`Spiff`	`Don't look at me. I left the community for such reasons. :)`
`15:56.36`	`Patlabor221`	`he has 7 posts`
`15:58.24`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`He's clearly not very productive if he can only post 7 messages overnight. They would have to be very creative posts for that much work, and I somehow doubt he's that creative.`
`15:58.36`	`Spiff`	`Hehehe.`
`15:59.30`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`I could get awk going on a dictionary and create a couple thousand posts overnight. That would get noticed. :)`
`16:00.04`	`Spiff`	`Hmmpf. Why would he register as "knightmareisme?"`
`16:00.08`	`Spiff`	`LoL`
`16:00.13`	`Patlabor221`	`so I would know`
`16:00.39`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`A combination of his previous nicks. He wanted to make sure he gets credit for his great achievements. :)`
`16:00.46`	`Patlabor221`	`yeah`
`16:00.48`	`Spiff`	`Gee.... he must be rather mentally imbalanced. One of those people who does wrong for the purpose of getting caught. LoL`
`16:00.58`	`Patlabor221`	`wonder how many times he had to reset his modem?`
`16:01.32`	`Nidhoggr`	`new construction in our facility is cool. they are doing a "Main Street" theme, complete with phone booth.`
`16:01.40`	`Spiff`	`Hmm... I dunno.... but I got a new IP just switching stuff around for my router. Which pry took 5-8 resets since my ISP is rather confusing.`
`16:01.49`	`Nidhoggr`	`and all glass garage door for the conference room`
`16:02.29`	`Patlabor221`	`then your IP is not really static is it?`
`16:02.54`	`Spiff`	`Hmm Tyrone?`
`16:03.08`	`Spiff`	`Dunno.`
`16:03.14`	`Spiff`	`Maybe it was just coincidence.`
`16:03.57`	`Spiff`	`But it seems that, unless you really mess with the modem, you keep the same IP. I had 12.222.147.141 for over six months.`
`16:04.00`	`Spiff`	`Brb`
`16:05.14`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`¿Spiff?`
`16:05.59`	`Spiff`	`Your "daily click to prevent world hunger"... I don't get it?`
`16:07.02`	`Patlabor221`	`ahhh the joys of being able to rewrite history :)`
`16:09.30`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`http://www.thehungersite.com`
`16:09.56`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`http://www.freedonation.com/`
`16:12.24`	`Bagheera`	`~bzflist`
`16:20.41`	`Patlabor221`	`wow, linux people still have to worry about inturups?`
`16:23.50`	`cniV`	`?`
`16:26.04`	`Patlabor221`	`the last messages about no sound on the SF help list`
`16:26.36`	`Bagheera`	`~bzflist`
`16:32.49`	`CIA`	`03brlcad * 12bzflag/ (DEVINFO): Updated details on encouraging indentation and tab usage. Include example comment block, add support for emacs.`
`16:36.16`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`New movie scheduled for release next year "Linux, Interrupted" ;)`
`16:37.13`	`Patlabor221`	`is our gov elect gonna be in it?`
`16:38.40`	`cniV`	`time to call it a night here`
`16:38.46`	`cniV`	`back later`
`16:38.49`	`Bagheera`	`g-night`
`16:41.12`	`Bagheera`	`thanks to all those you helped last night......whatever nick you may be hiding under`
`16:41.24`	`Bagheera`	`s/you/who`
`16:42.07`	`Bagheera`	`things are up and running under 1.7g2`
`16:53.59`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Just reading the news, part of the transition team is Carly Fiorina and Willie Brown. They might be in the movie. ;)`
`16:55.02`	`Patlabor221`	`we need that guy from the benson TV show, he seemed to do ok.`
`16:57.43`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`And Mayor Pete is back as well......`
`16:59.27`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`That's good for you, you'll be ready for more next Monday. ;)`
`16:59.39`	`brlcad`	`indeed ;)`
`17:00.47`	`brlcad`	`Though I may have pushed a little too hard.. I have more than muscle pain right now`
`17:01.25`	`*** join/#bzflag tapo (~tjabo@p50928613.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`17:02.11`	`tapo`	`hi, I want to create a screenshot of bzflag in X window (linux). convert and xv fail (no mouse, other errors). can a release mouse from bzflag? or is there a screenshot feature ?`
`17:03.07`	`brlcad`	`you can set up xv to take a screenshot after X seconds`
`17:03.41`	`brlcad`	`not exactly what you want, i imagine, but it's something`
`17:03.51`	`brlcad`	`there isn't a screenshot feature inside bzflag, though`
`17:04.10`	`brlcad`	`though there should be..`
`17:04.29`	`Patlabor221`	`can't you us imagemagik to export the window as well?`
`17:05.02`	`tapo`	`found at, convert X:bzflag t1.png works, when bzflag is stopped.`
`17:05.08`	`brlcad`	`yea, I think so. I think there is even a way to get X do dump the display as well, but I can't recall for sure`
`17:05.10`	`tapo`	`trying it wirh running bzflag...`
`17:05.55`	`Patlabor221`	`I just hit alt+print screen, but then I have that silly OS`
`17:06.18`	`tapo`	`fought an hour. now it works. thanks for you answers`
`17:06.34`	`brlcad`	`that's what they pay us for ;)`
`17:06.43`	`brlcad`	`cough`
`17:09.19`	`tapo`	`:)`
`17:11.12`	`tapo`	`http://www.home.unix-ag.org/tjabo/bzflag/dawn2.png`
`17:11.23`	`brlcad`	`ah, xwd is what I was trying to remember`
`17:11.42`	`brlcad`	`xwd -root -out screenshot.xwd`
`17:11.44`	`tapo`	`tried that also. the error was not to say "X:bzflag"...`
`17:12.17`	`brlcad`	`then, convert screenshot.xwd screenshot.jpg`
`17:12.49`	`tapo`	`brlcad: that did not work!`
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`17:13.18`	`brlcad`	`no, what did it do?`
`17:16.18`	`tapo`	`-> #flood ?`
`17:16.26`	`brlcad`	`sure`
`17:17.27`	`tapo`	`brlcad: my solution works.`
`17:17.45`	`brlcad`	`sounds good to me :)`
`17:18.04`	`brlcad`	`sounds like xwd is broken if the mode is changed`
`17:18.33`	`brlcad`	`rather, xwd is broken with an ogl root context`
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`17:37.16`	`brlcad`	`I'm just about ready to commit the new shift/tab comment block to support both vi and emacs`
`17:37.26`	`brlcad`	`See DEVINFO for an example`
`17:37.47`	`brlcad`	`This will touch just about every source file, of course`
`17:42.04`	`Tupone`	`that is a menace?`
`17:42.39`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (bzfls.pl): first hack at bzfls.pl`
`17:44.17`	`brlcad`	`~dict menace`
`17:44.38`	`brlcad`	`no, it's not a problem. just an advisory :)`
`17:45.00`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`It means that update tonight will take a bit longer ;)`
`17:45.03`	`Tupone`	`:)`
`17:45.25`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`or maybe it's time to throw out the old directory and start fresh. :)`
`17:45.47`	`Tupone`	`I think cvs will send us just a patch`
`17:45.51`	`brlcad`	`And a "speak now or forever hold your peace / don't blame me" pause`
`17:46.07`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Woof, Woof ;)`
`17:46.17`	`brlcad`	`hehe`
`17:47.26`	`brlcad`	`who am I kidding, someone's bound to complain`
`17:47.32`	`brlcad`	`but here goes anyways`
`17:49.22`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`That just gives me the right to complain;)`
`17:49.46`	`CIA`	`03brlcad * 12bzflag/ (205 files in 12 dirs): Updated indentation comment with emacs local variable declarations.`
`17:49.50`	`Patlabor221`	`got a report on BZBB that MG works difrently in 1.9, does that make sense to anyone?`
`17:49.51`	`CIA`	`03brlcad * 12bzflag/src (156 files in 12 dirs): Updated indentation comment with emacs local variable declarations.`
`17:50.34`	`brlcad`	`damn you davidtrowbridge bot`
`17:50.41`	`brlcad`	`you're blocking my commit :)`
`17:50.44`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`MG seemed to work quite nicely last night. Of course, bry was playing around with the parameters which made MG quite a bit more powerful in certain circumstances.`
`17:52.11`	`Patlabor221`	`they say that it used to work where you could hold down the mouse button, now you have to click multiple times`
`17:52.11`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`At one point, I had to retaliate against him for a rather unsavory parameter change. ;)`
`17:52.11`	`bryjen`	`hmm`
`17:52.14`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`I've never had it work just holding down the mouse button. Does that work for anyone else?`
`17:52.20`	`brlcad`	`Wee.. now emacs's will format the .h header files properly now`
`17:52.29`	`bryjen`	`I didn't think so either. I could do the with keyboard tho`
`17:53.40`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`The keyboard repeat rate would probably cause it to keep firing.`
`17:53.40`	`bryjen`	`yup`
`17:53.40`	`Tupone`	`only kkkkkkkkeyboard have ever workkkkkkked to me`
`17:53.40`	`Patlabor221`	`does it still work like that on 1.9?`
`17:53.53`	`Patlabor221`	`the input stuff did get a masive change`
`17:54.05`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`GM was rather unaccurate last night. bry fired at me when I had N, I was caught facing him, and 2 missiles passed by me, one on the right and one on the left.`
`17:54.27`	`Tupone`	`Not the mouse button, has I remember`
`17:54.45`	`Tupone`	`s/has/as/`
`17:54.46`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`I've noticed that happen when I have GM against normal tanks as well in 1.9.`
`17:54.57`	`brlcad`	`Interesting.. according to the changelog, this is one of the biggest/most different releases of bzflag yet`
`17:55.21`	`bryjen`	`wow. it does work. with MG, holding the mouse continues firing. Without MG it doesn't`
`17:55.37`	`bryjen`	`who knew?`
`17:55.39`	`Patlabor221`	`in 1.7 or 1.9?`
`17:55.46`	`bryjen`	`just tried 1.7`
`17:55.54`	`Patlabor221`	`well somone should have known :)`
`17:55.58`	`Patlabor221`	`can you try 1.9?`
`17:56.05`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Probably crs ;)`
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`17:56.39`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Hmm, someone redid Tim's ban.`
`17:56.50`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+b !gu@*.t-dialin.net] by Patlabor221`
`17:56.51`	`*** kick/#bzflag [Gulingwang!~JeffM@208.48.199.202] by Patlabor221 (jerk)`
`17:56.52`	`brlcad`	`lookie who it is`
`17:56.57`	`Patlabor221`	`was`
`17:57.07`	`brlcad`	`Chestal unded the ban this morning`
`17:57.23`	`Patlabor221`	`we should just white list the people`
`17:57.34`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`You didn't give him a chance to prove who he was. Or did he message you before?`
`17:59.26`	`bryjen`	`holding the mouse button with MG fires only once in 1.9`
`18:04.11`	`Tupone`	`I remember some piece of code in LocalPlayer.cxx that has special case for MG shot.`
`18:05.03`	`Spiff`	`I noticed that as well, bryjen. :(`
`18:05.05`	`Spiff`	`Brb.`
`18:07.21`	`Tupone`	`playing.cxx:6275 <- think this is`
`18:08.16`	`Tupone`	`if (fireButton && myTank->getFlag() == Flags::MachineGun && myTank->getTeam() != ObserverTeam)`
`18:08.16`	`Tupone`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:08.35`	`Tupone`	`nobody set fireButton true (SEEMS)`
`18:11.28`	`TimRiker`	`youch`
`18:19.24`	`Tupone`	`previous code was:`
`18:19.31`	`Tupone`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:21.03`	`Tupone`	`now, equivalent code is in cmdFire(), but that is called only on pressing fire, not releasing`
`18:21.32`	`Tupone`	`so we could set fireButton but not release it`
`18:27.00`	`bryjen`	`could just the setting of fireButton be put back in doKeyPlaying?`
`18:28.40`	`Tupone`	`don't know all the logic of assign key to action :(`
`18:33.50`	`Tupone`	`I'm trying to do that ...`
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`19:09.55`	`Tupone`	`the only solution I have found for MG to work the way it was only with default binding :~(`
`19:10.24`	`Patlabor221`	`so do we have to say that it was a removed feature?`
`19:11.30`	`Tupone`	`I can manage that only with default binding, if you change I'm not able to put it back. Or we remove that, or we stay with default, or ask captain`
`19:11.55`	`Patlabor221`	`ask tim`
`19:12.00`	`Patlabor221`	`he is the architech`
`19:13.47`	`Tupone`	`TimRiker: for MG to work I need to put in the code 2 bind (1 for button up and 1 for Button down).`
`19:14.24`	`TimRiker`	`~lart Patlabor221`
`19:14.36`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`I would say it's a bug, and we fix it to work as it was in 1.7.`
`19:14.37`	`bryjen`	`was the new key mappy stuff cappy's ?`
`19:14.40`	`Patlabor221`	`we use MS access :)`
`19:14.57`	`bryjen`	`Visual Basic! Eeeek !`
`19:14.58`	`Patlabor221`	`I don't know if he made it, or just moved it over from 1.8`
`19:15.57`	`Patlabor221`	`another person found it on bzbb, that's why Tupone is being so kind as to look into it`
`19:15.57`	`Tupone`	`There is a binding made with "bind LeftButton down fire"`
`19:16.22`	`larsl`	`So we need "startfire" and "stopfire" instead?`
`19:16.29`	`Tupone`	`I added the "bind LeftButton up fire" but only on default binding`
`19:16.55`	`Tupone`	`For default mapping is ok, but If you want to change?`
`19:17.27`	`Patlabor221`	`that's right it is, isn't it`
`19:17.35`	`Patlabor221`	`past lunchtime even`
`19:18.19`	`bryjen`	`TyroneFHornigh: BBQ->fireStarted() ?`
`19:18.44`	`bryjen`	`:)`
`19:18.57`	`Tupone`	`Hungry`
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`19:21.00`	`Patlabor221`	`10 PARTY 20 GET STARTED 30 GOTO 10`
`19:26.58`	`brlcad`	`renice -20 gwbasic # quickly`
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`19:31.17`	`TimRiker`	`yeah, sounds like we need to process down/up events for the mouse at least for MG`
`19:31.34`	`TimRiker`	`or make the down events auto-repeat?`
`19:31.50`	`Tupone`	`I found a solution. Just last checking and I commit`
`19:36.11`	`TimRiker`	`Tupone: oh, and thanx for fixing my TODO typo. it was late at night. ;-/`
`19:36.28`	`TimRiker`	`er... FIXME typo... sheesh.`
`19:36.45`	`Tupone`	`I made a typo on typo`
`19:38.13`	`CIA`	`03atupone * 12bzflag/ (4 files in 2 dirs): with keydown you can continuosly fire MG`
`19:38.25`	`Tupone`	`If you got that perl file, there is no need for php. So I fix other things`
`19:40.07`	`Tupone`	`However I was wandering about SQLLite. Does it lock the database file? I can look in the doc, but if you know!`
`19:40.31`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`They're refinishing the patio to prevent leaks, so no bbq today, just a big pot luck going away party instead. There's still food for about 100 more people (about 50 in the building :)`
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`19:42.49`	`TimRiker`	`Tupone: ibot and jbot both share a single SQLite database. so I'd say not. ;-)`
`19:43.48`	`Tupone`	`the problem I see is that more request can happen and if it is not write locked, bad thing can happen`
`19:44.19`	`Tupone`	`i mean concurrent request`
`19:46.42`	`Tupone`	`But ibot & jbot will write on that, so its debugged enough :)`
`19:50.59`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`zzzzzzzzz`
`19:52.17`	`Noodleman`	`hmmm`
`19:52.17`	`brlcad`	`good fuud TyroneFHornigh ?`
`19:52.30`	`Noodleman`	`what's a 3-letter word for a computer terminal?`
`19:52.37`	`brlcad`	`vax`
`19:52.53`	`brlcad`	`tty`
`19:52.54`	`captain_proton`	`ncd`
`19:53.26`	`Noodleman`	`aren't those architectures?`
`19:53.36`	`Noodleman`	`tty isn't`
`19:53.41`	`Noodleman`	`maybe that's it`
`19:56.13`	`bryjen`	`argle. hacking left mouse up bound to fire doesn't work if you try and change your mouse button bindings`
`19:56.28`	`bryjen`	`Tupone`
`19:56.48`	`Tupone`	`why not?`
`19:57.29`	`bryjen`	`i changed my fire button to the right button, but when i exit and restart bzflag, it tries to put it back on the left one`
`19:57.39`	`Tupone`	`I can say that I had removed all my .bzf directory`
`19:58.13`	`bryjen`	`hmmm. or maybe it sets right button down = fire and leaves the left button down = fire stuck in there`
`19:58.28`	`bryjen`	`oh. OK . i'll try deleteing my config`
`19:59.15`	`Tupone`	`I have put this hack: if menu.cxx discover youre bind fire it bind "up and down"`
`20:01.21`	`bryjen`	`ugh. deleted config and tried again. it still wanted to put left button back on fire. maybe i need a clean build too`
`20:01.47`	`Tupone`	`No, I don't think so`
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`20:05.30`	`Tupone`	`bryjen: I don't know the code, but can be: I have put 2 bind on left (bzflag.cxx). config file ovverides only one`
`20:05.41`	`Tupone`	`s/ovverides/overrides`
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`20:15.57`	`bryjen`	`changing the right button assignment has left me unable to start playing by right clicking. which is bad as thats whats flashing on the screen :(`
`20:16.52`	`Tupone`	`go directly to option and change it. It happens to me either (not flashing but the other)`
`20:17.22`	`captain_proton`	`bryjen: whatever is bound to 'identify' should work for coming out of limbo`
`20:17.38`	`bryjen`	`captain_proton: yes I still does it`
`20:17.50`	`bryjen`	`the key "I" that is`
`20:18.02`	`bryjen`	`in the config file "I" is bound to restart`
`20:18.13`	`bryjen`	`"I" up`
`20:18.34`	`captain_proton`	`ah, right`
`20:18.52`	`bryjen`	`but it keeps binding left mouse back to fire`
`20:21.08`	`captain_proton`	`hmm`
`20:21.19`	`captain_proton`	`brlcad: does your emacs stuff cooperate with the vim comment?`
`20:21.31`	`brlcad`	`captain_proton: supposed to`
`20:21.32`	`bryjen`	`ah. i was binding right mouse to fire and left mouse was not bound to anything.`
`20:21.59`	`brlcad`	`is the vim comment demanding to be the very last line?`
`20:22.03`	`bryjen`	`if i bind left mouse to something, it doesn't make it fire again when i restart`
`20:22.09`	`captain_proton`	`brlcad: i -think- so`
`20:22.35`	`Bagheera`	`~bzflist`
`20:22.35`	`brlcad`	`The emacs section can go anywhere, so if need be they can be swapped`
`20:22.47`	`larsl`	`Did someone change every single source file?`
`20:23.01`	`CIA`	`03davidtrowbridge * 12bzflag/ (TODO): add note about keybindings`
`20:23.55`	`brlcad`	`And it sounds like I might have to do it again`
`20:26.42`	`Patlabor221`	`how can I tell what area a class B goes to?`
`20:27.08`	`brlcad`	`arin`
`20:28.03`	`captain_proton`	Patlabor221: you can get subnets via `whois -h whois.arin.net host`
`20:28.30`	`brlcad`	`or go to http://www.arin.net/ and put the ip into the search whois`
`20:28.37`	`Patlabor221`	`cool thanks`
`20:30.27`	`Tupone`	`I miss the test on fire on the unbind. Let me check what I can do`
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`20:37.00`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`'Ello`
`20:37.18`	`Tupone`	`hi Merry`
`20:37.28`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`Hi whoever you are`
`20:37.35`	`Tupone`	`I'm me`
`20:37.45`	`brlcad`	`He's him`
`20:37.50`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`LOL`
`20:38.12`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`g2g`
`20:38.13`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`bye`
`20:38.21`	`brlcad`	`bubye`
`20:38.22`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`bye brlcad`
`20:38.28`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`bye all`
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`20:46.23`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (bzfls.pl): version`
`20:48.27`	`larsl`	`Is that a Perl replacement for the old bzfls protocol, or is it doing completely new things?`
`20:49.40`	`CIA`	`03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (menus.cxx): unbind of both events (up/down).`
`20:49.52`	`Tupone`	`bry:`
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`20:50.26`	`Tupone`	`bryjen: can you try?`
`20:50.41`	`bryjen`	`i'll try it as soon as the snapshot updates`
`20:50.57`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (bzfls.pl): ignore version`
`21:00.12`	`CIA`	`03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): player can know its LagPing just before entering game (in PlayerDead state)`
`21:01.29`	`bryjen`	`maybe this is an unrelated problem.`
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`21:01.50`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`back`
`21:02.14`	`Tupone`	`bryjen: talking to me: yes, it is something I've stopped taking care of MG`
`21:02.50`	`bryjen`	`it still re-binds left mouse to fire if i do not have left mouse bound to anything else`
`21:03.07`	`Tupone`	`can you see the config file?`
`21:03.12`	`bryjen`	`yes`
`21:03.45`	`Tupone`	`what does it says about fire?`
`21:04.49`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`bye going to a ducati server`
`21:05.06`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`There are some similar issues in the bzconfig file. It will bind email to the created email string if you set it in the config file to the empty string.`
`21:05.21`	`Tupone`	`sno: by whoeve you are`
`21:05.28`	`Tupone`	`snO: by whoeve you are`
`21:05.42`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Tupone: That was Merry.`
`21:05.48`	`Tupone`	`I known`
`21:06.57`	`Tupone`	`so can we left the way it is now or need to work anymore on that binding?`
`21:07.25`	`Tupone`	`who introduce that CMDMGR, KEYMGR and ..`
`21:07.38`	`Tupone`	`MAC?`
`21:07.39`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Hi capn :)`
`21:08.48`	`bryjen`	`i start by deleteing my config`
`21:08.50`	`bryjen`	`run once, the file is there after exit, enter and left mouse bound to fire`
`21:08.51`	`bryjen`	`run again, change fire to enter and right mouse (left mouse is nothing), after exit config file has enter and right mouse bound to fire`
`21:08.52`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`He's on ducati`
`21:08.53`	`bryjen`	`3rd run, GUI shows fire is left mouse, right mouse. after exit file has enter, left mouse, and right mouse bound to fire`
`21:09.41`	`Tupone`	`so must be something at loading config-file`
`21:10.36`	`bryjen`	`if i bind left mouse to something else, it works ok. only goes wrong if left mouse is not bound to anything`
`21:11.33`	`bryjen`	`Is there anyone who doesn't use their left mouse button? ;)`
`21:11.51`	`brlcad`	`Tupone: cappy mostly`
`21:11.59`	`Tupone`	`I suppose the left mouse binding is with "up"`
`21:12.39`	`Tupone`	`the "remaining"`
`21:13.24`	`larsl`	`~dict equatable`
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`21:13.33`	`larsl`	`~spell equatable`
`21:13.34`		`'equatable' may be spelled correctly`
`21:14.10`	`bryjen`	`all three left, right, and enter get bound both up and down to fire`
`21:15.28`	`brlcad`	`what was too cool`
`21:16.12`	`bryjen`	`it thinks you just _must_ use the left button for _something_ :)`
`21:16.57`	`brlcad`	`I think I have the starting ideas for an in-game irc client`
`21:18.34`	`bryjen`	`like there's not alreay too much text flying by in the console`
`21:18.41`	`CIA`	`03timriker * 12bzflag/misc (bzfls.pl): testing`
`21:18.49`	`brlcad`	`not for during gameplay.. no no no`
`21:19.07`	`bryjen`	`hmmm /shoot brlcad`
`21:19.09`	`bryjen`	`;)`
`21:19.35`	`TimRiker`	`~shoot brlcad`
`21:19.38`		`ACTION shoots brlcad in the head.`
`21:19.53`	`bryjen`	`~crush TimRiker`
`21:19.56`		`ACTION crushes TimRiker with a full height scsi disk`
`21:20.05`	`TimRiker`	`~whaleslap brlcad`
`21:20.11`		`ACTION slaps brlcad upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh`
`21:20.11`	`brlcad`	`~bury TimRiker and bryjen`
`21:20.17`		`ibot dumps 42 tons of dirt, manure, and fish heads on TimRiker and bryjen`
`21:20.17`	`TimRiker`	`~rlart`
`21:20.36`	`brlcad`	`ha, cool`
`21:20.37`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`lol`
`21:20.40`	`bryjen`	`huh? how'd he get into that?`
`21:20.44`	`brlcad`	`russian-roulette larting :)`
`21:20.58`	`ElectricElf`	`lol :) Not bad :)`
`21:21.05`	`bryjen`	`some say ibot's a girl`
`21:21.20`	`brlcad`	`she is`
`21:21.28`	`brlcad`	`~botsmack`
`21:21.30`		`sure, wanna snort some with me?`
`21:21.37`	`Tupone`	`bzflag start loading default binding, then add config binding, overriding the first. if config donot bind Left Mouse Button, it remains`
`21:21.40`	`bryjen`	`err, uh, or at least a female _something_`
`21:22.23`	`Tupone`	`so we should not load default binding if there are a config.`
`21:24.00`	`bryjen`	`depends on which way you look at it. there was no binding with left mouse in my config file, but there were two bindings for "fire"`
`21:24.56`	`Tupone`	`I mean, during game start you got both, default + config (overriding some). They are saved on exit`
`21:25.50`	`bryjen`	`ah. if the config files exists at all you should not need to load default keys ?`
`21:26.15`	`Tupone`	`That is what I was saying`
`21:26.44`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`well I'm gonna go wath tv`
`21:26.47`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`bye`
`21:26.50`	`bryjen`	`Now I see`
`21:27.08`	`Tupone`	`sn0w_d0ggy: bye`
`21:27.08`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`see what?`
`21:27.15`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`thx`
`21:27.32`	`bryjen`	`i see what Tupone meant`
`21:27.56`	`sn0w_d0ggy`	`oh`
`21:30.52`	`bryjen`	`hmm`
`21:30.57`	`bryjen`	`~cook brlcad`
`21:30.59`		`ACTION throws brlcad in a big pan with veggies inside and cooks brlcad on 350 for an hour`
`21:31.19`	`bryjen`	`that's bake`
`21:31.26`	`bryjen`	`~fry brlcad`
`21:32.20`	`bryjen`	`~roast bryjen`
`21:32.41`	`bryjen`	`~boil bryjen`
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`21:32.58`	`bryjen`	`~nuke TyroneFHornigh`
`21:33.01`		`nukes TyroneFHornigh with a single large nuke`
`21:33.13`	`bryjen`	`hmm. i was looking for the microwave....`
`21:33.34`	`larsl`	`You are making me hungry again. =)`
`21:34.36`	`TimRiker`	`larsl_away: it's the beginning of a replacement.`
`21:34.43`	`TimRiker`	`not doing anything new yet.`
`21:34.43`	`bryjen`	`~broil larsl_away`
`21:35.06`	`bryjen`	`ibot has limited cooking skills`
`21:35.08`		`bryjen: i don't know`
`21:35.14`	`bryjen`	`exactly`
`21:35.22`	`bryjen`	`;)`
`21:42.26`	`*** join/#bzflag Carnage (strayer@dyn216-8-133-6.ADSL.mnsi.net)`
`21:42.35`	`Carnage`	`hi`
`21:42.38`	`Carnage`	`hey BB`
`21:46.42`	`CIA`	`03atupone * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (2 files): Lag for bot is of no importance (just getting lag for master)`
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`21:53.17`	`prodan`	`ibot seen calico`
`21:53.18`		`calico <calico@bgm-66-67-6-151.stny.rr.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 98d 1h 52m 41s ago, saying: 'lol'.`
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`22:19.53`	`Carnage`	`what teams?`
`22:20.43`	`david_v`	`TDS-Fortix`
`22:20.53`	`david_v`	`very close match that ended in 4-2 to them`
`22:21.38`	`Carnage`	`very close`
`22:21.46`	`david_v`	`well, you should have seen it`
`22:22.01`	`david_v`	`it was 3-2, and the flag was just 1 cm from our base, but instead it got 4-2`
`22:22.11`	`david_v`	`say 7 seconds left`
`22:22.26`	`david_v`	`i screwed up a bit at the end actually :)`
`22:22.58`	`Patlabor221`	`so on linux if I was gonna make a config file for an app, and on windows it was named myconfig.cfg, would it be more normal to make it .myconfig for linux?`
`22:24.11`	`scanline`	`depends on where you're putting it usually`
`22:24.16`	`david_v`	`/etc/myconfig.conf ~/.myprogram/myconfig.conf would be more normal`
`22:24.22`	`Patlabor221`	`home dir is what it's set to now`
`22:24.27`	`Patlabor221`	`as it is per user setingsd`
`22:24.32`	`purple_cow`	`or ~/myprogramrc :)`
`22:24.40`	`david_v`	`i prefer putting it in a subdir`
`22:25.11`	`Patlabor221`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:25.12`	`Patlabor221`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:25.12`	`Patlabor221`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:25.12`	`Patlabor221`	`<PROTECTED>`
`22:26.29`	`Patlabor221`	`so like .myapp/myconfig ?`
`22:26.51`	`david_v`	`personally i think so. it's a matter of taste :)`
`22:27.00`	`larsl`	`Most programs use $HOME/.myconfig if it's only one file, and $HOME/.myapp/myconfig if several files are needed.`
`22:27.02`	`david_v`	`any global settings in /etc anyway`
`22:27.11`	`Patlabor221`	`ahh`
`22:27.18`	`Patlabor221`	`well there will be several`
`22:27.34`	`david_v`	`see :)`
`22:27.51`	`Patlabor221`	`but this preffs file class will handle it ether way`
`22:28.02`	`Patlabor221`	`just pass in the dir as part of the filename`
`22:28.13`	`Patlabor221`	`and it'll do it on both win and lin`
`22:28.21`	`Patlabor221`	`thanks for the info tho`
`22:31.43`	`purple_cow`	`yay Patlabor221`
`22:31.46`	`Patlabor221`	`wonder what the mac wants for prefs file`
`22:32.01`	`Patlabor221`	`even made the vars start with lowercase`
`22:34.24`	`scanline`	`/Library/Components/System/Games/BZFlag/Preferences/Local/Settings/Configuration/MyApps.xml`
`22:34.41`	`Bagheera`	`~whaleslap TyroneFHornigh`
`22:34.43`		`ACTION slaps TyroneFHornigh upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh`
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`22:39.27`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+bbb !gu@.t-dialin.net !vosch@.t-dialin.net !cap@*.t-dialin.net] by tolkien.freenode.net`
`22:39.27`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+bbb jeff!@.dip.t-dialin.net !edelstei@ !@68.111.116.228] by tolkien.freenode.net`
`22:39.27`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+bbb cell!@ !@adsl-68-133.lou.bluegrass.net gorb!@] by tolkien.freenode.net`
`22:39.27`	`*** mode/#bzflag [+b sussudio!@] by tolkien.freenode.net`
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`22:40.58`	`Bagheera`	`wow, a lot of t-dialin terrorists`
`22:41.30`	`purple_cow`	`only one t-dialin terrorist`
`22:41.35`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`~slap Bagheera`
`22:41.38`		`ACTION slaps Bagheera, keep your grubby fingers to yourself!`
`22:42.07`	`Bagheera`	`dang, i thought it was slap TyroneFHornigh day....`
`22:42.22`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`~shoot Bagheera`
`22:42.24`		`ACTION shoots Bagheera in the head.`
`22:42.54`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Before you start getting any further ideas, I think it's wise to create a hole to let them out. ;)`
`22:44.00`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`pat, what's the point of the ban on sussudio, and letting him come in as oidussus?`
`22:49.46`	`Bagheera`	`~hang TyroneFHornigh`
`22:50.07`	`david_v`	`how many lives does he have, really? :)`
`22:50.38`	`Bagheera`	`cant do much with a hole in my head.....`
`22:50.49`	`david_v`	`well, i meant you... hehe :)`
`22:51.03`	`david_v`	`i wasn't really following so close :)`
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`22:54.14`	`david_v`	`hey bzgirl`
`22:54.24`	`bzgirl`	`hello`
`22:54.51`	`Carnage`	`hey BZG :)`
`22:55.01`	`bzgirl`	`hi`
`22:55.35`	`david_v`	`brb`
`22:56.17`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Cat's have 9 lives. He's used a bunch of them. ;)`
`22:56.31`	`TyroneFHornigh`	`Hey bzg ;)`
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`23:03.32`	`Carnage`	`david v, match?`
`23:03.36`	`Big_Barrel`	`~dict carnage`
`23:03.47`	`Big_Barrel`	`lmao`
`23:03.48`	`Carnage`	`:)`
`23:03.53`	`Big_Barrel`	`~dict big barrel`
`23:03.55`	`david_v`	`Carnage: nope, although if my teammates are up for it you can do a 2-2 or anything above`
`23:04.05`	`david_v`	`i won't play myself`
`23:04.08`	`Carnage`	`dabomb is on`
`23:04.38`	`Big_Barrel`	`yeah lets match !!`
`23:04.38`	`Big_Barrel`	`that would be a tough match david and dabomb`
`23:05.06`	`david_v`	`i don't feel for it right now, sorry`
`23:05.36`	`Big_Barrel`	`carnage: i have to go to compUSA right now`
`23:05.42`	`Big_Barrel`	`i will be back in about 1.5 hrs`
`23:05.42`	`Big_Barrel`	`cu then :)`
`23:05.55`	`Carnage`	`if i make it`
`23:06.16`	`Carnage`	`cya later`
`23:07.36`	`Big_Barrel`	`carnage: find us a match for around that time frame`
`23:07.39`	`Big_Barrel`	`if you coule`
`23:07.43`	`Big_Barrel`	`could**`
`23:08.22`	`Big_Barrel`	`carnage: go here>> http://www.kelsoes.com/HoW.html`
`23:08.36`	`Carnage`	`ok`
`23:09.12`	`Big_Barrel`	`what do you think?`
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`23:12.30`	`Carnage`	`sry, got disconected`
`23:13.09`	`Big_Barrel`	`what do you think?`
`23:13.13`	`*** join/#bzflag tapo (~tapo@213.7.226.68)`
`23:13.25`	`Big_Barrel`	`not quite finished yet`
`23:13.32`	`*** part/#bzflag prodan (~prodan@p508BBF6B.dip.t-dialin.net)`
`23:15.08`	`Big_Barrel`	`~ducat6`
`23:16.45`	`Big_Barrel`	`carnage you there?`
`23:17.10`	`david_v`	`good night`
`23:17.16`	`Big_Barrel`	`cu david :)`
`23:17.22`	`*** part/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c213-200-135-241.cm-upc.chello.se)`
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`23:25.24`	`Bagheera`	`dang it, dang it, dang it......i need more bandwidth, or better stuff, or a life`
`23:25.41`	`Bagheera`	`think i will work on the last one`
`23:36.56`	`BigGameHunter`	`I thought you started with 9 lives. I only wanted a couple of them. ;)`
`23:36.56`	`Big_Barrel`	`~ducat6`

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