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| 00:14.35 | david_v | Chestal: hm, BiPs-Fortix 8-3... different players this time :) |
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| 00:15.32 | BaDiN | hello |
| 00:15.35 | BaDiN | anyone to enter a score? |
| 00:15.41 | david_v | i reported both already :) |
| 00:15.45 | fhffhqvb | hello PiGs |
| 00:15.48 | david_v | dunno if anybody heard, though... hehe |
| 00:15.49 | BaDiN | oh :) |
| 00:15.50 | david_v | errr |
| 00:16.00 | BaDiN | hello bunnies |
| 00:16.04 | david_v | Chestal is probably busy debugging now |
| 00:16.51 | BaDiN | the felthy one |
| 00:16.52 | BaDiN | :) |
| 00:16.54 | BaDiN | okay, g2g |
| 00:17.01 | BaDiN | cya fellas |
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| 02:23.57 | fhffhqvb | he lullo |
| 02:24.37 | rembo | heb je al? |
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| 02:27.53 | rembo2 | test |
| 02:28.00 | rembo | tost |
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| 03:05.26 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Sasami] by ChanServ |
| 03:17.23 | Sasami | what changed in custombase? |
| 03:17.27 | Sasami | was a new fille added? |
| 03:17.34 | Sasami | somethihng with streams ? |
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| 03:31.48 | Sasami | ahh there he is |
| 03:31.58 | Sasami | is the fun named #deifne in config.h used? |
| 03:34.35 | MrApathyCream | of course! |
| 03:34.45 | MrApathyCream | it doesn't build w/o it |
| 03:34.58 | MrApathyCream | an sdk perculiarity |
| 03:35.20 | Sasami | where is it used? |
| 03:35.25 | Sasami | I did not find it |
| 03:35.43 | Sasami | I am working on a way to get back to 1 vc6 project |
| 03:35.57 | Sasami | cus you keep forgeting to update the non sdk one |
| 03:36.18 | MrApathyCream | thats ur job :) |
| 03:36.25 | MrApathyCream | as is 7.1 |
| 03:36.30 | Sasami | I don't do vc6 anymore |
| 03:36.33 | Sasami | I do VC7 |
| 03:36.52 | Sasami | I think I'm gonna have to update my sdk to see where the problem is |
| 03:37.09 | Sasami | it's just a place where common.h is before the winsock include |
| 03:37.15 | Sasami | cus it used to work |
| 03:37.39 | MrApathyCream | yup |
| 03:38.13 | MrApathyCream | it was all over the place.. never ending errors |
| 03:38.13 | Sasami | they had to end |
| 03:38.13 | Sasami | and they have to be found |
| 03:38.31 | MrApathyCream | well how many cxx's do we have :) |
| 03:38.47 | Sasami | I'm trying to be serious here |
| 03:39.06 | Sasami | you know it's not all of them |
| 03:39.06 | MrApathyCream | its alot tho |
| 03:39.13 | Sasami | yeah and there is probalby one that is the root |
| 03:39.20 | MrApathyCream | and unfortunately you had to fix one to find the next |
| 03:39.21 | Sasami | come common header that most of them include |
| 03:39.25 | Sasami | yes |
| 03:39.29 | MrApathyCream | perhaps |
| 03:39.31 | Sasami | I didn't say it was gonna be easy |
| 03:39.38 | MrApathyCream | i fixed about 5 of them../ |
| 03:39.56 | Sasami | cus I doubt that somone went thru and changed every cxx file when they busted it |
| 03:40.09 | MrApathyCream | true |
| 03:41.34 | MrApathyCream | here i'll tell you the first |
| 03:42.42 | Sasami | I think I may have it |
| 03:42.44 | Sasami | one sec |
| 03:43.32 | Sasami | ohh and CVS is busted |
| 03:43.36 | Sasami | for both of em |
| 03:44.06 | Sasami | I think it's serverlink.cxx |
| 03:44.17 | Sasami | move common.h to the end of the includes |
| 03:44.32 | Sasami | then put #ifndef socketlen_t |
| 03:44.42 | Sasami | #define sockelen_t int |
| 03:44.46 | Sasami | #endif |
| 03:44.49 | Sasami | in the config.h |
| 03:45.14 | MrApathyCream | BackgroundRenderer.cxx |
| 03:45.14 | MrApathyCream | C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDK\include\ws2tcpip.h(647) : error C2632: 'int' followed by 'int' is illegal |
| 03:45.14 | MrApathyCream | C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDK\include\ws2tcpip.h(647) : warning C4091: 'typedef ' : ignored on left of 'int' when no variable is declared |
| 03:45.14 | MrApathyCream | bzflag.cxx |
| 03:45.14 | MrApathyCream | C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDK\include\ws2tcpip.h(647) : error C2632: 'int' followed by 'int' is illegal |
| 03:45.16 | MrApathyCream | C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDK\include\ws2tcpip.h(647) : warning C4091: 'typedef ' : ignored on left of 'int' when no variable is declared |
| 03:45.19 | MrApathyCream | callbacks.cxx |
| 03:45.21 | MrApathyCream | C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDK\include\ws2tcpip.h(647) : error C2632: 'int' followed by 'int' is illegal |
| 03:45.23 | MrApathyCream | C:\Program Files\Microsoft SDK\include\ws2tcpip.h(647) : warning C4091: 'typedef ' : ignored on left of 'int' when no variable is declared |
| 03:46.16 | Sasami | that was just when you put that #def in the config file? |
| 03:46.21 | Sasami | that makes no sense |
| 03:46.35 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 03:47.02 | Sasami | well the simple thing is move the common.h to the end of all the places that do the #includes |
| 03:47.16 | Sasami | I'm geting the sdk |
| 03:47.21 | Sasami | you wana fix cvs? |
| 03:47.37 | fhffhqvb | ~fix cvs |
| 03:47.44 | Sasami | ha ha |
| 03:47.47 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 03:47.51 | fhffhqvb | ~botsmack |
| 03:47.52 | | sure, wanna snort some with me? |
| 03:48.40 | Sasami | any idea what date plat SDK you have? |
| 03:49.40 | MrApathyCream | August 2002 |
| 03:50.15 | Sasami | no such beast |
| 03:50.24 | Sasami | I am geting november 2002 |
| 03:50.28 | Sasami | should be close enough |
| 03:50.57 | Sasami | all 395 megs of it |
| 03:54.03 | Sasami | rei3 |
| 03:54.23 | Sasami | whops this isn't gaim |
| 03:54.30 | Sasami | won't find her here |
| 04:00.56 | MrApathyCream | date? |
| 04:01.17 | Sasami | no |
| 04:01.19 | Sasami | old friend |
| 04:01.39 | Sasami | transfering contact info from windows to linux |
| 04:01.40 | MrApathyCream | the ex? :-) |
| 04:01.48 | Sasami | no |
| 04:01.59 | Sasami | I don't even know where she is, or if she uses/owns a computer |
| 04:02.03 | Sasami | probably for the best |
| 04:02.15 | MrApathyCream | prolly |
| 04:03.25 | Nidhoggr | grr. knightmare comes onto secretplace swearing up a storm. what a dork. |
| 04:03.45 | fhffhqvb | did you expect him to go 'ho ho ho' and give everyone presents? |
| 04:04.12 | Sasami | he in texas? |
| 04:04.26 | Nidhoggr | he's been fairly behaved on secretplace until tonight. |
| 04:04.34 | Sasami | you sure it's him? |
| 04:04.39 | Nidhoggr | dunno |
| 04:04.52 | fhffhqvb | why do you even allow him on your servers? he's always cheating even if it's non-obvious. |
| 04:04.56 | Sasami | don't really mater tho |
| 04:05.21 | Sasami | no easy way to ban hoim |
| 04:05.30 | Nidhoggr | because I removed all the bans when I went to 1.10.. and we are adding bans as we need to now. |
| 04:05.38 | Sasami | he's on cox cable, they are huge have a monster range |
| 04:05.45 | fhffhqvb | he made a client in 3 modes, from what i can gather; standard mode, subtle mode and downright cheat mode with flying, speed, etc. |
| 04:05.56 | Nidhoggr | yeah.. but cox gives you the same IP for a long time. |
| 04:06.16 | Nidhoggr | and this guy was on from cox ip |
| 04:06.22 | fhffhqvb | i can't believe someone thought it was a good idea to name an ISP cox |
| 04:06.24 | Sasami | yeah, I figure he resets his modem a lot when he wants to try a new bzbb |
| 04:06.48 | Nidhoggr | you have to change mac address to get new ip on cox. |
| 04:06.58 | fhffhqvb | like with macchanger? |
| 04:06.59 | Sasami | with a router that's easy |
| 04:07.08 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 04:07.39 | fhffhqvb | ~info macchanger |
| 04:08.01 | fhffhqvb | ~botsnack |
| 04:08.01 | | :), fhffhqvb |
| 04:08.22 | Sasami | should just change your nick to BotmastG |
| 04:08.31 | fhffhqvb | *shrug* |
| 04:09.04 | Sasami | wow crystalspace is large |
| 04:09.09 | fhffhqvb | i'm going to get those p2's in a couple of hours |
| 04:09.19 | Sasami | coo |
| 04:09.30 | Sasami | I need to find a slot 1 P3 600 |
| 04:09.34 | Sasami | for a dualie |
| 04:09.50 | fhffhqvb | at least they take pc100, it's a pain in the ass to try and upgrade a mobo that still takes 72 pin simms |
| 04:10.03 | Sasami | ya |
| 04:10.13 | fhffhqvb | i have a p3 500 here, i'm going to plug it into one of those mobo's |
| 04:10.24 | Sasami | I have a couple P2 mobos that take 72s |
| 04:10.35 | Sasami | and a old 486 with a p90 odp |
| 04:11.05 | fhffhqvb | i have about 84 1MB 30 pin simms |
| 04:11.20 | Sasami | heh' |
| 04:11.36 | fhffhqvb | one 386-40 board has 16 simm slots i filled them all up |
| 04:11.53 | Sasami | rencely I found some old dimms, tured out they were 8 meg edo dimms, wothless |
| 04:12.43 | fhffhqvb | i think i put a couple of those in Piggy |
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| 04:13.54 | fhffhqvb | damn non-destructive backspace |
| 04:18.25 | fhffhqvb | "Michael Jackson: It's still OK to sleep with boys" |
| 04:18.32 | fhffhqvb | ~cluebat Michael Jackson |
| 04:18.35 | | ACTION pulls out a ClueBat (tm) and thwaps Michael Jackson. |
| 04:22.50 | MrApathyCream | who owns the trademark on ClueBat? |
| 04:23.25 | Sasami | hey ninjer_proton or scanline where is broomfield CO in relation to you? |
| 04:27.59 | MrApathyCream | that sdk hasn't made it down the T1 to your house yet? |
| 04:28.23 | fhffhqvb | Distance between Broomfield, Colorado, United States and Boulder, Colorado, United States, as the crow flies: 12 miles (19 km) (10 nautical miles) |
| 04:28.58 | Sasami | hmmm then mr jweeks is posibly very near them |
| 04:29.27 | fhffhqvb | jweeks? |
| 04:29.55 | Sasami | they guy posting in the 1.10.2 anoucments post on BZbb that was being an ass |
| 04:30.11 | fhffhqvb | hmmk |
| 04:30.25 | Sasami | his isp is "level3" |
| 04:30.34 | Sasami | they are in that broom place |
| 04:31.11 | fhffhqvb | level3 is a national ISP |
| 04:31.17 | MrApathyCream | ah mr jweeks. gotta lub em |
| 04:31.24 | Sasami | ahh |
| 04:31.25 | fhffhqvb | they do walmart and crap. |
| 04:31.30 | scanline | Sasami: heh, going to ask one of us to call in a hit? |
| 04:31.33 | Sasami | then perhaps that is jsut there centeral office |
| 04:31.46 | Sasami | mmmmmmmmaaaayyyybbeeee :) |
| 04:31.55 | Sasami | tho he seemed to calm down |
| 04:32.03 | Sasami | perhaps he will help in fixing the problem |
| 04:32.19 | Sasami | man does CrystalSpace take a while to build |
| 04:34.43 | CIA-5 | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzflag (2 files in 2 dirs): quell the lock on warnings when dead |
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| 05:12.31 | Sasami | did you hear sirens yet? |
| 05:13.20 | fhffhqvb | or angry pigfarmers with pitchforks |
| 05:14.19 | Sasami | ohh I didn' |
| 05:14.27 | Sasami | t know he was over there partying with you |
| 05:15.23 | MrApathyCream | was against it, and tried to mitigate with blink in period, but riker insisted otherwise |
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| 05:16.28 | Sasami | really? |
| 05:16.32 | Sasami | well pull that crap out |
| 05:16.40 | Sasami | cus it gonna be busted till 2.0 |
| 05:17.15 | Sasami | the plan says so |
| 05:19.13 | MrApathyCream | riker insisted that spawn be on the server |
| 05:19.19 | MrApathyCream | wouldn't ship without it |
| 05:19.53 | Sasami | then tell him he is a fool and to protype it first |
| 05:19.57 | MrApathyCream | so isent around a dev mailling saying was gonna impl with blink in period, he said |
| 05:20.03 | MrApathyCream | no, just enter |
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| 05:20.56 | MrApathyCream | add spawn on buildings to mitigate then chestal ripped that out as a default |
| 05:21.10 | MrApathyCream | so it currently is really crappy |
| 05:22.08 | MrApathyCream | for some reason he doesn't like protocol breaking releases |
| 05:22.16 | MrApathyCream | so it had to be 'perfect' network wise |
| 05:22.29 | MrApathyCream | that's just silly imo, all versions should be protocol breaking imo |
| 05:22.43 | MrApathyCream | so that you force upgrades |
| 05:22.45 | Sasami | well noone is playing |
| 05:22.48 | Sasami | and it's all busted now |
| 05:22.53 | MrApathyCream | and everyone is on an even playing field |
| 05:24.01 | Sasami | I know |
| 05:24.01 | Sasami | thye don't like that |
| 05:24.01 | Sasami | it was a change |
| 05:24.06 | Sasami | they will all fear change |
| 05:24.50 | MrApathyCream | well hopefully this will encourage them to upgrade to 1.12.0 :) |
| 05:25.44 | Sasami | yeah but will that release be buggy and rushed too? |
| 05:26.06 | MrApathyCream | of course :) |
| 05:26.32 | MrApathyCream | there isn't enough dev interest to be otherwise |
| 05:27.31 | Sasami | then perhaps this is better for you then I |
| 05:27.45 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o MrApathyCream] by Sasami |
| 05:27.55 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o Sasami] by Sasami |
| 05:37.09 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 05:41.59 | Sasami | grrr, it won't let me |
| 05:42.03 | Sasami | sill chanserv |
| 05:42.29 | Sasami | use the power wisely MrApathyCream, I know you shall do well |
| 05:43.18 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 05:43.32 | MrApathyCream | poor sasami... |
| 05:43.54 | MrApathyCream | may you blessed with always have a blank cpp file |
| 05:44.57 | MrApathyCream | whats the 30 25 suff |
| 05:44.59 | MrApathyCream | stuff |
| 05:45.01 | Sasami | sadly I am only allowed to change people of level 29 and below, and that excludes my sellf |
| 05:45.04 | Sasami | I am 30 |
| 05:45.06 | Sasami | you are 25 |
| 05:45.13 | MrApathyCream | what is that a power rating? |
| 05:45.19 | MrApathyCream | auth level? |
| 05:45.21 | Sasami | admin level |
| 05:45.24 | Sasami | basiclyt |
| 05:45.27 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 05:45.36 | Sasami | difrent options are avail at difrent levels |
| 05:45.36 | MrApathyCream | it's the best xmas present ever. :) |
| 05:45.40 | Sasami | at 30 I can op others, |
| 05:45.44 | Sasami | at 25 you can not |
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| 05:47.02 | Sasami | but I can not remove myself or change my level :( |
| 05:48.30 | MrApathyCream | bummer |
| 05:48.37 | MrApathyCream | trapped in an everlasting hell of bad code |
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| 05:49.11 | Sasami | all I have to do is change my name |
| 05:50.10 | MrApathyCream | ah |
| 05:50.35 | MrApathyCream | so does your powers apply to bzflag only or to anything on the server? |
| 05:51.55 | Sasami | ?? |
| 05:52.18 | Sasami | I have level 30 op in this channel and level 50 op in #project24 |
| 05:53.37 | Sasami | level 20+ will get you auto op if you register |
| 05:55.55 | Sasami | you and learner are now bzbb admins as well |
| 05:57.12 | curses | damn, i'm getting my ass kicked bzF today |
| 05:58.04 | *** topic/#bzflag by MrApathyCream -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://list.BZFlag.org/ || http://stats.BZFlag.org/ || forums http://bzbb.bzflag.org/ || ban exceptions /mode #BZFlag +e nick!*user@*.dip.t-dialin.net || http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=03/12/16/0119206 || v1.10.2 is out |
| 05:58.08 | MrApathyCream | w00t! |
| 05:58.10 | CIA-5 | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): attempt not spawn 'real near' an opponent |
| 05:59.53 | MrApathyCream | wow that was good engrish |
| 06:03.51 | CIA-5 | 03dbrosius * 12bzflag/ (ChangeLog): changes |
| 06:05.26 | MrApathyCream | anyone know if xmission runs latest cvs? |
| 06:05.37 | DemolitionMan | one of them does I think |
| 06:05.47 | fhffhqvb | BZFlag version 1.10.3.20031222-MAINTENANCE-W32VC6 |
| 06:06.04 | fhffhqvb | xmission runs on windoze? :-| |
| 06:06.06 | DemolitionMan | no |
| 06:06.08 | DemolitionMan | that's your version |
| 06:06.21 | fhffhqvb | [SERVER->] BZFlag server 1.10.3.20031225-MAINTENANCE-linux-gnu, |
| 06:06.37 | fhffhqvb | [SERVER->] HiX 2.0 running 1.10.0! Tim@Rikers.org (20031226-11:17:00) |
| 06:18.01 | DemolitionMan | well best of luck with it all |
| 06:18.06 | DemolitionMan | you know where to find me if you need me |
| 06:19.40 | fhffhqvb | cleveland? |
| 06:20.04 | DemolitionMan | it does rock |
| 06:26.06 | DemolitionMan | have fun everyone |
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| 07:35.35 | KrakensDen | hola |
| 07:41.47 | MrApathyCream | yo |
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| 10:05.22 | Pimpinella | exess flood? |
| 10:05.33 | Pimpinella | excess |
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| 10:39.48 | scanline | mmm |
| 10:39.50 | scanline | http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag |
| 10:47.39 | |tim| | hey bz flag rules hugh |
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| 11:35.38 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src (2 files in 2 dirs): clean up after the little folk |
| 11:41.50 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 12bzflag/src/bzfs (bzfs.cxx): for a dead player, only drop PlayerUpdate msgs with Alive bit set; should hopefully fix strange explosion problems |
| 12:02.07 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): explosion without going up in the air bug should be gone |
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| 12:24.55 | fhffhqvb | baah. |
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| 14:06.23 | Chestal | hi |
| 14:06.55 | Tupone | hi |
| 14:07.00 | david_v | hallo :) |
| 14:07.44 | CIA-1 | 03chestal * 12bzflag/ (BUGS): no more nr when capturing |
| 14:08.04 | Tupone | good |
| 14:08.07 | david_v | heh |
| 14:08.36 | Tupone | Chestal: what was that? A missing alive? |
| 14:09.00 | Chestal | Tupone: was caused by a clever bugfix of mine from a few days ago |
| 14:09.10 | Chestal | I stopped relaying MsgPlayerUpdates in the server for dead players |
| 14:09.34 | Chestal | I wasn't aware that these messages are needed to transfer player state as exploding / dead, too |
| 14:09.35 | david_v | oh |
| 14:09.36 | Tupone | IC |
| 14:09.53 | Chestal | now I only stop them if server thinks player is dead and update package says that player is alive |
| 14:11.01 | Chestal | when players did tk and server is setup to kill tkers, I have seen players vanish from radar (i.e. dead/exploding), then reappear for a brief moment |
| 14:11.16 | Tupone | I hope one of the next activities is cleaning up most of the stuff. They're so intricated |
| 14:11.22 | Chestal | I suspect this was due to a MsgPlayerUpdate package that was sent before the player recvd the Killed message from server |
| 14:11.54 | Chestal | now I try to only suppress these messages |
| 14:12.08 | Chestal | I see that MAC did some simple mprovement to the spawning code |
| 14:12.31 | Chestal | could be further improved to have the same logic which was in the client, short of looking at shots of course (and maybe not trying as hard because we must be quick) |
| 14:12.49 | Tupone | I C too! Hope it works, does not take into account shot |
| 14:13.07 | Chestal | and the old client logic looked at aizmuth of tanks, too |
| 14:13.30 | Chestal | it tried to guarantee a greater distance for tanks which face each other, and a smaller distance when they look in opposite directions |
| 14:13.48 | Chestal | of course the server's knowledge about the position is only approx. |
| 14:14.01 | Chestal | in the worst case about 1s of dead reckoning is missing |
| 14:14.46 | Tupone | Can we put dr also in server? |
| 14:15.04 | Chestal | what about: "list server includes counts for players running on non-public servers on the same machine on different ports"? |
| 14:15.12 | Chestal | Tupone: we could |
| 14:15.19 | Chestal | but I would disliek to duplicate the code |
| 14:15.28 | Tupone | that's from learner. And I don't understnad |
| 14:16.38 | Tupone | bzfs call the add. The only thing can be: bzfs update the listserver with a wrong port |
| 14:16.52 | Chestal | I cannot reproduce it here |
| 14:16.55 | Tupone | but I doubt it is |
| 14:17.03 | Chestal | there have been some reports, that you always need to use -publicaddr |
| 14:17.14 | Chestal | so maybe it gets the port wrong, I haven't tried |
| 14:17.44 | Chestal | so should ask learner about it, if he cannot reproduce, erase it |
| 14:18.03 | Tupone | I was much worried by the player count wrong. Did I do something enabling keepalive? |
| 14:18.47 | Chestal | well, there was one bug in 1.10.0 which caused wrong player count in rabbit mode |
| 14:19.01 | Chestal | but obviously there is/was a second bug which caused a 0->255 underflow |
| 14:19.19 | Tupone | So could be the bzfs running now are still 1.10.0? |
| 14:19.50 | Chestal | ~bzflist |
| 14:20.13 | Chestal | those counts look ok, or was only the team size affected, not total number of players? |
| 14:20.36 | Tupone | seems good now! I'll look that with a client |
| 14:21.02 | Chestal | 1.7 had 0->255 problems every now and then, too. Although very rarely |
| 14:21.26 | Chestal | ah, btw., I get another gfx bug here |
| 14:21.41 | Tupone | I saw player count to 40, and I entered it and was like 5/6 |
| 14:21.43 | Chestal | when I play at home, whenever rabbit goes into 3D, floor and pyramids get white/grey, too |
| 14:21.52 | Chestal | looks like something does not get reset properly |
| 14:21.59 | Chestal | maybe it's that rabbit "shinyness"? |
| 14:22.04 | Chestal | I am clueless about gl |
| 14:22.15 | Chestal | Tupone: was it on rabbit server? |
| 14:22.29 | Tupone | Not sure |
| 14:22.35 | Chestal | hmm, ok :-) |
| 14:22.51 | Tupone | Is there a way to see the version of a server? |
| 14:23.06 | Chestal | not withotu joining I think |
| 14:23.17 | Chestal | when you join, it will tell you the version |
| 14:23.46 | Tupone | normally it just say BZFSxxxx. I'd look at it better |
| 14:24.08 | Chestal | the first lien of server message will include the version |
| 14:24.41 | Chestal | not what the client says, a real -> mesage |
| 14:27.01 | Tupone | Yea I got |
| 14:27.43 | Tupone | I see sec ago, 200/10 player, on a rabbit (Stone Henge) |
| 14:30.49 | Tupone | A lot of bzfs are old |
| 14:31.58 | Tupone | I saw a good hints: Using listserver to give announcement to client |
| 14:43.54 | tapo | is it possible to change the normal vector of gravity? just an idea... |
| 14:44.59 | david_v | hehe |
| 14:45.22 | tapo | or more than one gravity center... black holes... |
| 14:45.27 | david_v | :) |
| 14:45.31 | tapo | -> V1.20.3 |
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| 18:35.41 | DemolitionMan | heh, bzflag shows up first when you search for "3d engine" on sourceforge |
| 18:36.55 | Chestal | ~bzflist |
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| 19:12.33 | CIA-1 | 03timriker * 12bzflag/ (TODO): uh, no. |
| 19:13.59 | david_v | hehe |
| 19:22.00 | DemolitionMan | why is SF web CVS not showing any of the 1.10 tags? |
| 19:22.04 | DemolitionMan | I thought they fixed that |
| 19:27.00 | TimRiker | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/bzflag/?only_with_tag=v1_10_2 |
| 19:27.24 | TimRiker | they look like they are there to me. perhaps you forgot how to do an ascii sort? |
| 19:28.22 | TimRiker | ie: they are not sorted numerically. also 1.10.2 and 1.10.0 are tags, not branches. |
| 19:31.30 | DemolitionMan | yeah I'm just blind |
| 19:33.54 | DemolitionMan | hungry and blind |
| 19:34.06 | DemolitionMan | guess I'll have to take care of one of those two things now |
| 19:45.01 | Pimpinella | hey david_v, what about ur 2nd match yesterday? |
| 19:45.56 | CIA-1 | 03atupone * 12bzflag/ (TODO): Global announcement by list server |
| 19:51.25 | TimRiker | so you're the one abusing the list server? |
| 19:54.02 | david_v | Pimpinella: ah hi. that was a 2-2, and one of my teamies was drunk lol :) |
| 19:57.14 | ninjer_proton | TimRiker: what was the TODO entry you changed? seems the commits emails are taking their sweet time |
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| 20:17.17 | DemolitionMan | he vetoed more then one shot on a shield |
| 20:21.17 | TimRiker | ninjer_proton: I vetoed the multiple hits to loose a shield flag. |
| 20:22.08 | ninjer_proton | oh? any particular reason why? |
| 20:22.17 | ninjer_proton | seems like that's been a feature request for a long long time |
| 20:39.37 | Chestal | might be useful on servers with lots of shots, on low-shot servers, shield is powerful enough as is |
| 20:40.29 | ninjer_proton | indeed |
| 20:45.36 | DemolitionMan | shield should rico the shot up like a pyramid |
| 21:22.58 | richeros | yeah, shield should rico the shots |
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| 21:36.43 | Chestal | ~bzflist |
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| 23:47.40 | fhffhqvb | ~back DemolitionMan |
| 23:47.43 | | Guess who's back. Back again. DemolitionMan's back. Tell a friend. Guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back, guess who's back.. |
| 23:48.33 | DemolitionMan | heh |
| 23:49.07 | fhffhqvb | these p2's i got are better than i thought... they have Matrox Productive G100 AGP cards in them too |
| 23:49.22 | fhffhqvb | must've cost a bundle back in 1998 |
| 23:49.42 | DemolitionMan | coo |
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| 23:49.47 | gg_ | hi |
| 23:49.54 | DemolitionMan | hello |
| 23:50.01 | fhffhqvb | it's probably not going to play bzflag very well with a glxgears of 65 though |
| 23:50.08 | gg_ | BATTLE!!! |
| 23:50.16 | fhffhqvb | swinia |
| 23:50.21 | gg_ | enuyone is ready for a fight? |
| 23:50.47 | fhffhqvb | the knoppix cd doesn't have bzflag on it... those bastards |
| 23:50.49 | DemolitionMan | nope |
| 23:50.58 | gg_ | r u poliosh> |
| 23:51.00 | DemolitionMan | somone made one that did |
| 23:51.07 | gg_ | r u polish? |
| 23:51.07 | DemolitionMan | gg_ pardon? |
| 23:51.15 | fhffhqvb | :-P |
| 23:51.16 | DemolitionMan | umm no, are you? |
| 23:51.19 | gg_ | u talked to ldlaskdji |
| 23:51.31 | gg_ | yeah |
| 23:51.45 | gg_ | knoppix is our ditro i thought |
| 23:52.10 | fhffhqvb | Z.adne nie nie jestem je;zyk polski, bomba s'wini |
| 23:52.19 | DemolitionMan | it's linux, can't really be anyone's distro |
| 23:52.34 | gg_ | ha! bunnies |
| 23:52.35 | fhffhqvb | linux is just the kernel |
| 23:52.51 | gg_ | no |
| 23:53.00 | DemolitionMan | true |
| 23:53.00 | fhffhqvb | yes |
| 23:53.01 | gg_ | ndistro isnt a kenrnel |
| 23:53.19 | gg_ | nknopix is a distro |
| 23:53.20 | fhffhqvb | linux is the kernel, gnu is the other stuff |
| 23:53.21 | DemolitionMan | a distro includes linux and other things that work with it |
| 23:53.31 | gg_ | yeagh |
| 23:53.38 | fhffhqvb | knoppix gnu/linux, based on debian gnu/linux |
| 23:53.53 | gg_ | but it isnt jusxt an egg |
| 23:55.33 | DemolitionMan | umm, no it's software |
| 23:55.38 | DemolitionMan | not a baby animal |