| 00:17.57 | Patlabor221 | zone? |
| 00:18.00 | Patlabor221 | I did zones? |
| 00:18.22 | JBdiGriz | did you do textures? |
| 00:20.30 | Patlabor221 | the ground has PZ texture |
| 00:20.39 | Patlabor221 | and it will alpha a PZed tank |
| 00:20.46 | Patlabor221 | that's the only real change on PZ |
| 00:26.03 | JBdiGriz | i guess you did it then |
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| 01:13.37 | Patlabor221 | has MAC been back today? wonder if the last set of changes worked for him? |
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| 17:10.57 | Nidhoggr | I still have my sunbot. :) |
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| 17:11.15 | brlcad | If anyone would like to get manually added to receive syncmail commit messages until sourceforge gets their list server back up, pm me your e-mail |
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| 17:16.53 | Nidhoggr | actually, knowing what's being committed might be helpful. |
| 17:17.58 | [dmp] | Well, mostly for active developers? |
| 17:18.42 | brlcad | and, of course, cvs isn't' responding right now... |
| 17:18.59 | Nidhoggr | dmp, I'm doing daily builds for users to download. |
| 17:19.05 | Nidhoggr | or at least I'm trying to. |
| 17:19.07 | [dmp] | ah |
| 17:19.16 | DeathBarrel | ~d |
| 17:19.25 | Nidhoggr | and I'm technically an active cvs contributor. :) |
| 17:19.42 | Nidhoggr | big whoopie, eh? ;) |
| 17:19.46 | [dmp] | btw: does --enable-debug degrade performance |
| 17:19.47 | [dmp] | hehe |
| 17:20.02 | Nidhoggr | supposedly it does a little |
| 17:21.01 | Nidhoggr | work coffee is extra yucky today. |
| 17:21.56 | brlcad | ~fishslap sourceforge cvs update |
| 17:22.00 | | ACTION slaps sourceforge cvs update up side the head with a wet fish. |
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| 17:24.14 | Patlabor221 | ohh so CVS is slow, not me then |
| 17:25.34 | brlcad | was slow |
| 17:25.40 | brlcad | now just unresponsive |
| 17:25.48 | Patlabor221 | k, well good it's not just me |
| 17:26.07 | brlcad | must be moving stuff around still |
| 17:27.51 | Patlabor221 | hmmm, need to get 10.2 to verify but I think I fixed it |
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| 17:29.12 | JBdiGriz | sourceforge has been very slow for me lately |
| 17:33.32 | brlcad | interesting.. Eclipse cannot handle local cvs repositories |
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| 17:35.58 | DeathBarrel | hi pimpinella :) |
| 17:36.07 | DeathBarrel | srry i missed you yestarday |
| 17:36.37 | DeathBarrel | ~d |
| 17:36.52 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 17:37.11 | DeathBarrel | DeepSh*** <<<<< lol |
| 17:37.37 | DeathBarrel | going to lunch and the bank, be back soon :) |
| 17:37.50 | JBdiGriz | Pick up some money for me :) |
| 17:38.22 | DeathBarrel | hehe |
| 17:38.51 | DeathBarrel | how about this>> if you give me $500 i will give you a nice clean crisp $20 bill ;) |
| 17:39.10 | DeathBarrel | now that is one heck of a deal |
| 17:39.21 | DeathBarrel | there is no way you can pass that deal up! |
| 17:39.23 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 17:39.23 | JBdiGriz | Hang on, let me go down to my kid's monopoly set, and I'll get you that $500 |
| 17:39.29 | DeathBarrel | lmao |
| 17:39.44 | DeathBarrel | JB: if you were close i would treat you to lunch :) |
| 17:39.57 | DeathBarrel | i just got a bonus today $) |
| 17:40.10 | JBdiGriz | cool, don't spend it all in one place. |
| 17:40.14 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 17:40.15 | Noodleman_laptop | DeathBarrel: how much? ;-) |
| 17:40.21 | DeathBarrel | $800 |
| 17:40.35 | JBdiGriz | maybe a new graphics card, so you can shoot straighter ;) |
| 17:40.39 | brlcad | feel free to make a donation, DB :) |
| 17:40.41 | Noodleman_laptop | i could use 800 clams right now |
| 17:40.44 | DeathBarrel | minus taxes, i only see about $620 of it |
| 17:41.22 | DeathBarrel | cu guys, me hungry, mabye i go eat Chick-Filet |
| 17:41.25 | DeathBarrel | ummmm |
| 17:41.27 | DeathBarrel | hehe |
| 17:41.29 | Noodleman_laptop | hehe, cya |
| 17:41.29 | DeathBarrel | be back soon |
| 17:41.45 | DeathBarrel | noodle: did you see my new avitar on the bzbb centrum site? |
| 17:41.46 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 17:41.56 | Noodleman_laptop | DeathBarrel: yes, it's weird |
| 17:41.59 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 17:42.06 | Noodleman_laptop | is that me with a black eye? |
| 17:42.06 | DeathBarrel | i call it "Noodle EYE" |
| 17:42.21 | Noodleman_laptop | hehe |
| 17:42.26 | DeathBarrel | no it is your eye changed to blue |
| 17:42.27 | brlcad | hrm.. BB has such a nicer ring to it -- made me think of bb's that you'd shoot. DB makes me think of persistent states and queries.. ;) |
| 17:42.31 | Noodleman_laptop | ah |
| 17:42.45 | Noodleman_laptop | brlcad: haha |
| 17:42.48 | DeathBarrel | i perfer DB |
| 17:43.03 | Nidhoggr | filter issue: time to go, testing. &$ %#$!. should be CU later |
| 17:43.05 | DeathBarrel | and when autopilot is turned on you can call me "PilotBarrel" ;) |
| 17:43.15 | DeathBarrel | cya guys |
| 17:43.18 | DeathBarrel | be back shortly |
| 17:43.21 | brlcad | thx, Nid |
| 17:43.22 | DeathBarrel | for real this time |
| 17:43.24 | Noodleman_laptop | peanut butter |
| 17:43.28 | Noodleman_laptop | :-) |
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| 17:44.36 | brlcad | well.. i can imagine what it might have thought culater meant |
| 17:44.58 | brlcad | that was shortly |
| 17:45.34 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 17:47.56 | JBdiGriz | brlcad, what does the bad word code match to "much" |
| 17:48.31 | Nidhoggr | it has to be something wierd. |
| 17:48.52 | brlcad | much? |
| 17:49.25 | brlcad | much doesn't appear to be filtered |
| 17:49.39 | brlcad | maybe in the context of some punctuation |
| 17:50.56 | Noodleman_laptop | i was having problems with getting half of my sentences filtered the other day |
| 17:51.13 | Noodleman_laptop | i think it was on q2 |
| 17:51.22 | brlcad | hrm |
| 17:52.25 | JBdiGriz | brlcad, usually the conversation is Person 1: "What's happening?" Person 2: "not @*#&" |
| 17:52.27 | Pimpinella | ahh, hi DeathBarrel, hi all |
| 17:52.58 | Noodleman_laptop | m00f |
| 17:53.17 | JBdiGriz | I've seen it on quol's servers a lot, followed by rounds of hilarity and a few messages trying to convey the word much so that the true meaning comes through. |
| 17:53.37 | Noodleman_laptop | that's about what happened |
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| 17:57.57 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 17:57.58 | Grumbler | Nidhoggr: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGG, but i think i caught it before it went nuke |
| 17:58.01 | Noodleman_laptop | haha |
| 17:58.30 | Noodleman_laptop | Nidhoggr: is it rot13 aware? |
| 18:03.43 | Nidhoggr | what did it do, grumbler? |
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| 18:04.05 | brlcad | no rot13 awareness -- has to be human readable :P |
| 18:04.07 | Nidhoggr | it did drive the load up a little :) |
| 18:04.29 | brlcad | driving the load up is easy. |
| 18:04.35 | brlcad | i shant say how to here, though :) |
| 18:04.45 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 18:05.06 | brlcad | apparently the worst case scenario took near no time for quol's machine, though -- was sweet |
| 18:05.08 | Nidhoggr | it normally never breaks .2 and grumbler had it at 1.28 :) |
| 18:05.21 | brlcad | ah, the time stat |
| 18:05.23 | brlcad | ? |
| 18:05.37 | brlcad | or is that load |
| 18:05.42 | Nidhoggr | load average |
| 18:05.48 | Nidhoggr | on logos |
| 18:05.48 | brlcad | ah |
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| 18:09.29 | Grumbler | Nidhoggr: dont ask.....lets just say you were very close to serving a whole lot of maps.........going to see if i can find a safer place for this |
| 18:09.51 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 18:10.04 | Grumbler | grumble grumble, python piece of....grumble grumble |
| 18:10.07 | Nidhoggr | use the shell script :) |
| 18:10.32 | Grumbler | but i like python.........well except in this one particular instance |
| 18:10.41 | Nidhoggr | *snort* |
| 18:12.54 | Grumbler | i found some stuff online........and it makes me believe, although it is unstated, that the problem lies in the system call, and how i have told python to handle it..........there is a way via "", to tell it different parts of the string are different parts of the system call |
| 18:13.28 | Noodleman_laptop | <message type="subliminal">use perl</message> |
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| 18:13.55 | Grumbler | hence, i should be able to have it send stderr/stdout to /dev/null, while still having the bzfs go to a log file |
| 18:14.14 | Grumbler | perl, been there, done that..........like python...................or maybe even tcl |
| 18:14.45 | brlcad | hrm.. if i submit before 1pm est they ship today.. :( |
| 18:14.47 | Grumbler | what i hate about python is the necessity for indents......and how they are interpretted |
| 18:14.57 | brlcad | it's 1:13pm :( |
| 18:15.26 | Grumbler | brlcad: maybe your clock is wrong......or maybe theirs is......... |
| 18:15.51 | brlcad | hopefully theirs is.. |
| 18:16.00 | brlcad | oh, and yay for SportChick :) |
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| 18:17.07 | Oman | how do i unregister my nick |
| 18:17.09 | Oman | ? |
| 18:17.17 | Noodleman_laptop | why do you want to? |
| 18:17.25 | Oman | Cause i do |
| 18:17.34 | Noodleman_laptop | is this on IRC or bzflag? |
| 18:17.42 | Oman | IRC |
| 18:17.51 | Noodleman_laptop | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.23 | DeathBarrel | ahhhhh |
| 18:19.26 | DeathBarrel | that was good! |
| 18:19.37 | Oman | BYE no more CTF FOR ME |
| 18:19.40 | Oman | I just SUCK |
| 18:19.43 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 18:19.45 | DeathBarrel | why? |
| 18:19.50 | Noodleman_laptop | keep playing and you won't suck |
| 18:19.51 | Oman | I just SUCK |
| 18:19.53 | DeathBarrel | ~d |
| 18:19.56 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 18:20.01 | Noodleman_laptop | i suck and i've been playing for 3 years |
| 18:20.05 | Noodleman_laptop | :-) |
| 18:20.06 | DeathBarrel | hehe |
| 18:20.15 | DeathBarrel | i started back in 92 |
| 18:20.17 | Nidhoggr | I suck the worst |
| 18:20.19 | Nidhoggr | so there |
| 18:20.25 | Noodleman_laptop | that's why you are so good :-) |
| 18:20.30 | Noodleman_laptop | Nidhoggr: haha |
| 18:20.34 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 18:20.39 | [dmp] | oh, he performend better than me. That statement puts me in a bad light then :) |
| 18:20.50 | DeathBarrel | hehe |
| 18:20.51 | Noodleman_laptop | you stick to pimpin' bandwidth, it's what you do best :-) |
| 18:20.58 | brlcad | howdy [dmp] |
| 18:20.59 | DeathBarrel | lmao! |
| 18:21.00 | Nidhoggr | very true |
| 18:21.16 | Nidhoggr | but I still like to play, even if I am not so good at it. |
| 18:21.24 | [dmp] | hi brlcad |
| 18:21.28 | DeathBarrel | man i am full, just ate 2 big ole' Chick-Filet sandwitches |
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| 18:21.32 | Noodleman_laptop | yeah, i'd like to play better too |
| 18:21.45 | Noodleman_laptop | Nidhoggr: how much do you charge for dedicated hosting, anyway? |
| 18:22.04 | DeathBarrel | practice makes perfect |
| 18:22.06 | Nidhoggr | for colo, or for a websites? |
| 18:22.11 | DeathBarrel | well, not perfect |
| 18:22.14 | DeathBarrel | nlol |
| 18:22.29 | Noodleman_laptop | for general stuff; i'd need r00t in any case |
| 18:22.38 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 18:22.51 | [dmp] | actually, i wouldnt mind trying to make a webhosting company - but the compotition in denmark is too hard. |
| 18:22.59 | DeathBarrel | AMD Athlon 64 3400+, 1MB L2 Cache, 64-bit Processor - OEM |
| 18:22.59 | DeathBarrel | Specification |
| 18:22.59 | DeathBarrel | Model: AMD Athlon 64 3400+ |
| 18:22.59 | DeathBarrel | Core: ClawHammer |
| 18:22.59 | DeathBarrel | Operating Frequency: 2.2GHz |
| 18:23.00 | DeathBarrel | Free FedEx Saver Shipping more info » |
| 18:23.02 | DeathBarrel | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.04 | Nidhoggr | don't currently have a way to offer root on a box, so you'd have to send a box, and I'd have to stick it in the rack. :) |
| 18:23.18 | Noodleman_laptop | does the formfactor matter? |
| 18:23.26 | Noodleman_laptop | *dunb question* |
| 18:23.30 | Noodleman_laptop | :-) |
| 18:23.33 | Nidhoggr | I prefer 1U. it would definitely effect price. |
| 18:23.38 | Noodleman_laptop | ah |
| 18:23.40 | Nidhoggr | $35/mo per RU |
| 18:23.40 | Noodleman_laptop | ok |
| 18:23.49 | Nidhoggr | and $65/mbps |
| 18:23.49 | Noodleman_laptop | hey, that's not bad |
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| 18:23.57 | Nidhoggr | with minimum of 1mbps |
| 18:24.03 | Noodleman_laptop | oh, so bandwidth is extra? |
| 18:24.05 | [dmp] | so its 35+65 ? |
| 18:24.06 | Nidhoggr | I have some of the best prices around. |
| 18:24.07 | DeathBarrel | freak that, charge like $400/mo |
| 18:24.10 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 18:24.13 | Noodleman_laptop | ok |
| 18:24.24 | Nidhoggr | so $100/mo for a 1RU server and 315GB of transfer |
| 18:24.26 | DeathBarrel | ok noodle: you and i are going into business ;) |
| 18:24.28 | Noodleman_laptop | yeah, that price isn't bad at all |
| 18:24.35 | Noodleman_laptop | hehe, DeathBarrel |
| 18:24.51 | Noodleman_laptop | i wouldn't mind if someone could put up the money, and we could do the work |
| 18:24.52 | DeathBarrel | soon we will be sippin Margiritas in the Bahammas |
| 18:24.59 | Noodleman_laptop | or you could put up the money :-) |
| 18:24.59 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 18:25.10 | Nidhoggr | bandwidth is expensive, and I'm not marking up much. |
| 18:25.15 | DeathBarrel | w/ $5 hookers on each knee :) |
| 18:25.18 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 18:25.21 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 18:25.22 | Noodleman_laptop | heh |
| 18:25.26 | DeathBarrel | wait a sec, that is in Mexico |
| 18:25.31 | Noodleman_laptop | ha |
| 18:25.42 | Nidhoggr | I am lucky to pay a 95/5 price rather than by the GB |
| 18:26.03 | [dmp] | Nidhoggr: its your own company? |
| 18:26.13 | Noodleman_laptop | when i find a job, i'll look into hosting at your place |
| 18:26.14 | Nidhoggr | I resell for the company that I work for. |
| 18:26.17 | Noodleman_laptop | i need hosting bad |
| 18:26.20 | Nidhoggr | I was a customer before an employee. |
| 18:26.27 | [dmp] | DeathBarrel: I |
| 18:26.35 | [dmp] | DeathBarrel: I'm large. You'll both get one :) |
| 18:26.48 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 18:27.03 | NonPayinBarrel | hehe |
| 18:27.09 | Noodleman_laptop | i've got my server at my previous employer's office underneath the rack :-) |
| 18:27.14 | Noodleman_laptop | well, not really a rack |
| 18:27.15 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 18:27.21 | Nidhoggr | how big is server? |
| 18:27.22 | Noodleman_laptop | more like metal shelves, but |
| 18:27.40 | Noodleman_laptop | how big in dimensions, or power? |
| 18:27.45 | Nidhoggr | dimensions |
| 18:27.59 | Nidhoggr | power isn't a big deal for me... since I'm not close to what I'm paying for (20 amps) |
| 18:28.00 | Noodleman_laptop | it's a mini-itx case, lemme get the exact size |
| 18:28.21 | Nidhoggr | probably 4U on it's side. |
| 18:28.28 | Nidhoggr | visit colomachine.com :) |
| 18:28.42 | Nidhoggr | they have great prices... just takes a while sometime to get stuff. |
| 18:28.57 | Noodleman_laptop | oooh, EPIA MII motherboards! |
| 18:29.20 | [dmp] | :) |
| 18:29.55 | Noodleman_laptop | Nidhoggr: 11.50" x 2.50" x 10.75" |
| 18:30.20 | Nidhoggr | I have cm-51d on order. |
| 18:30.38 | Nidhoggr | hrm. 2.5" tall? |
| 18:30.47 | Nidhoggr | that's not toobad. |
| 18:30.51 | Noodleman_laptop | that's what it says |
| 18:30.58 | Noodleman_laptop | what kind of space would that fit? |
| 18:30.59 | captain_proton | wow Nidhoggr, those are cheap |
| 18:31.10 | Nidhoggr | 1.75 is 1RU |
| 18:31.15 | Nidhoggr | so it'd take 2 RU |
| 18:31.16 | Noodleman_laptop | ok |
| 18:31.32 | Nidhoggr | capt, nice machines. a few people here are using them. |
| 18:31.40 | Noodleman_laptop | so $70 for the rack space? |
| 18:31.45 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 18:32.04 | Noodleman_laptop | might be cheaper to get a 1U case and mobo off of ebay in the long run |
| 18:32.29 | Nidhoggr | nod. |
| 18:32.34 | Nidhoggr | check colomachine.com, though. |
| 18:32.37 | Noodleman_laptop | ok |
| 18:32.42 | Nidhoggr | prices are cheaper than a lot of ebay 1U machines. |
| 18:33.49 | Noodleman_laptop | that's the kinda prices i like :-) |
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| 18:34.15 | Nidhoggr | getting a 1U 1.7gb celeron 512mb ram and 80gb drive for 469 |
| 18:34.32 | Noodleman_laptop | yeah, i'm looking at that one |
| 18:35.11 | [dmp] | same here :) |
| 18:35.12 | bryjen | celery processors! ;) |
| 18:35.17 | Nidhoggr | mmmm. celery |
| 18:35.21 | Noodleman_laptop | crunchy |
| 18:38.24 | Nidhoggr | fortunately it's really close to me, so UPS ground is only 3 days. |
| 18:38.30 | Noodleman_laptop | it bites being a geeky kid without a job |
| 18:38.50 | Nidhoggr | poor noodle :( |
| 18:38.59 | Noodleman_laptop | heh |
| 18:39.02 | Grumbler | it bites being a geeky old man with a job and bills |
| 18:39.08 | Noodleman_laptop | :-) |
| 18:39.30 | Noodleman_laptop | but, at least you have money, for paying bills even |
| 18:39.30 | Noodleman_laptop | tho |
| 18:39.37 | Noodleman_laptop | i don't have any bills yet :-) |
| 18:39.43 | [dmp] | In denmark, i would get more money if i didnt study and just sit still and play bzflag all day. |
| 18:42.49 | Grumbler | ......so you have some moral fiber..........nothing wrong there.......... |
| 18:43.34 | Grumbler | we have those lazy bums over here as well...........but they mostly end up on Jerry Springer to make their money |
| 18:43.43 | Noodleman_laptop | haha |
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| 18:44.48 | [dmp] | This lazy bum better start reading about Rices theorem.:-| |
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| 18:46.12 | DeathBarrel | noodleman: you still in school? |
| 18:46.24 | Noodleman_laptop | well, technically |
| 18:46.30 | DeathBarrel | hehe |
| 18:46.31 | Noodleman_laptop | i do homeschool |
| 18:46.35 | DeathBarrel | senior? |
| 18:46.40 | Noodleman_laptop | yeah |
| 18:46.56 | DeathBarrel | home school would be cool |
| 18:47.00 | Noodleman_laptop | i've been researching to find out what i need to know to get my GED |
| 18:47.04 | DeathBarrel | but no girls :( |
| 18:47.08 | Noodleman_laptop | haha, i don't care |
| 18:47.11 | Noodleman_laptop | i have computers |
| 18:47.12 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 18:47.18 | DeathBarrel | GED: is a joke |
| 18:47.28 | DeathBarrel | get your diploma |
| 18:47.31 | Nidhoggr | well, GED is better than nothing. :) |
| 18:47.38 | DeathBarrel | you only have a few more months? |
| 18:47.43 | Noodleman_laptop | all i can do is print on off my printer :-) |
| 18:47.55 | Noodleman_laptop | i can't get a diploma, so the next best thing is GED |
| 18:48.04 | DeathBarrel | hmmm |
| 18:48.11 | DeathBarrel | forge a diploma then |
| 18:48.21 | Noodleman_laptop | and most employers do accept GED as equivolent to a diploma |
| 18:48.24 | DeathBarrel | give em my phone# if they have any questions :) |
| 18:48.28 | Noodleman_laptop | hehe |
| 18:48.31 | Noodleman_laptop | thx :-) |
| 18:48.33 | Nidhoggr | most community colleges accept GED |
| 18:48.38 | DeathBarrel | sure |
| 18:48.39 | Noodleman_laptop | yeah |
| 18:48.47 | DeathBarrel | some major colleges do also |
| 18:48.48 | DeathBarrel | i think |
| 18:48.54 | Nidhoggr | and you're a smartie, noodle, so you should be able to get certs, etc. |
| 18:49.01 | DeathBarrel | yep |
| 18:49.03 | Noodleman_laptop | i hope one of the 2 universities in my area do |
| 18:49.12 | Nidhoggr | a lot of them do. |
| 18:49.13 | DeathBarrel | what city? |
| 18:49.18 | Noodleman_laptop | evansville, indiana |
| 18:49.27 | DeathBarrel | hmmm.... boon docks? |
| 18:49.47 | Noodleman_laptop | we've got university of southern indiana and u of evansville |
| 18:49.55 | Noodleman_laptop | both good universities i hear |
| 18:49.58 | DeathBarrel | all you need is a good idea and an invention :) |
| 18:50.10 | Noodleman_laptop | yeah, but i have no good ideas :-) |
| 18:50.18 | DeathBarrel | i was going to invent post-it notes, but that bastard beat me to it >:( |
| 18:50.23 | Noodleman_laptop | haha |
| 18:51.22 | DeathBarrel | what you need to do is join the Army, kill some Iraqies, do your time, get out and blammo....you employers smile with that kinda experience |
| 18:51.42 | Noodleman_laptop | i considered it |
| 18:51.45 | Nidhoggr | if you don't get shot yourself first. |
| 18:51.46 | DeathBarrel | i did |
| 18:51.50 | DeathBarrel | look where i am now :) |
| 18:51.52 | Nidhoggr | I was in for 9 |
| 18:52.04 | Noodleman_laptop | hehe, i don't know if i wanna be like you in 9 years |
| 18:52.12 | Nidhoggr | :( |
| 18:52.14 | DeathBarrel | yeah 9 yrs is kinda long |
| 18:52.17 | DeathBarrel | i did 4 |
| 18:52.19 | Noodleman_laptop | j/k |
| 18:52.36 | DeathBarrel | but i really miss the army |
| 18:52.41 | Nidhoggr | I was gunna go for 20, but decided that i wanted a life. |
| 18:52.50 | DeathBarrel | wish i was over there killing the bad guys :( |
| 18:53.08 | DeathBarrel | Nid: US Army? |
| 18:53.13 | Nidhoggr | air force. |
| 18:53.14 | DeathBarrel | ah |
| 18:53.21 | DeathBarrel | same branch pretty much |
| 18:53.27 | Nidhoggr | got out after taking my monastic vows/oaths. :) |
| 18:53.27 | DeathBarrel | ASDF is in the airforce |
| 18:53.36 | DeathBarrel | hehe |
| 18:53.42 | DeathBarrel | the ole ball and chain eh? |
| 18:53.52 | Nidhoggr | it was pretty liberating actually. |
| 18:53.58 | Chestal | cvs went from unresponsive to dead again? |
| 18:54.02 | Noodleman_laptop | i personally don't think there are "bad guys", just guys with differing opinions that believe you are the "bad guys" |
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| 18:54.34 | Patlabor221 | murder should never be trivialised |
| 18:54.35 | brlcad | chestal, appears so |
| 18:54.40 | Patlabor221 | from ether side |
| 18:54.42 | DeathBarrel | league site is running very slow today |
| 18:54.43 | Noodleman_laptop | Patlabor221: exactly |
| 18:54.54 | Chestal | Pat: you already fixed the bases? |
| 18:54.58 | bryjen | everybody thinks they're the "good" guys, but the have opposing beliefs |
| 18:55.09 | Nidhoggr | my vows make it so I can't kill anything except in extreme duress/starvation, etc. |
| 18:55.25 | Noodleman_laptop | i applaud that |
| 18:55.28 | DeathBarrel | pat: i noticed last night on 1.10.3: i could not see any flags |
| 18:55.29 | Nidhoggr | oh, and exterminating pests... which I really haven't done yet. |
| 18:55.36 | DeathBarrel | could see them on radar but not on scree |
| 18:55.47 | Patlabor221 | I would if Freaking CVS would work for me |
| 18:55.48 | bryjen | I don't see how wearing a dress changes anything ;) |
| 18:55.50 | Patlabor221 | then you got something busted |
| 18:55.51 | Chestal | Death: maybe you hit that silly key? |
| 18:55.55 | Patlabor221 | turn them back on |
| 18:55.56 | Nidhoggr | I dodge bugs on the sidewaklk :) |
| 18:55.58 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 18:56.01 | Nidhoggr | err sidewalk |
| 18:56.03 | Patlabor221 | you turned them off |
| 18:56.05 | Noodleman_laptop | hehe |
| 18:56.06 | DeathBarrel | thought it was probabally my machine |
| 18:56.20 | DeathBarrel | weird things happen when you minimize bz then come back into it |
| 18:56.27 | DeathBarrel | tracers are gone now though |
| 18:56.31 | Patlabor221 | it's a feature |
| 18:56.31 | Patlabor221 | you activated it |
| 18:56.36 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 18:56.40 | Patlabor221 | deactivate it |
| 18:56.52 | Patlabor221 | the what? |
| 18:57.07 | DeathBarrel | ? |
| 18:57.14 | DeathBarrel | the what? what? |
| 18:57.25 | Noodleman_laptop | although, if someone was trying to hurt someone in my family, i don't think it would be wise for them to stick around :-) |
| 18:57.51 | DeathBarrel | i am going to buy a A3 M4 Carbine soon, next month |
| 18:57.52 | Noodleman_laptop | they might not live to do it again |
| 18:57.56 | Patlabor221 | "tracers" ? |
| 18:58.03 | DeathBarrel | http://www.impactguns.com/store/bushmaster_m4_miniy.html |
| 18:58.08 | DeathBarrel | cheapest i can find |
| 18:58.12 | Patlabor221 | for what? |
| 18:58.21 | Patlabor221 | goona go on a killing spree? |
| 18:58.33 | DeathBarrel | pat: on win32 ... if you minimize bz and open it back up, all you see is tracers |
| 18:58.40 | Chestal | people with weapons scare me, personally |
| 18:58.42 | DeathBarrel | on 1.10.0 & 1.10.2 |
| 18:58.57 | DeathBarrel | Pat: for protection |
| 18:58.58 | Chestal | guess you are more used to it, at least in parts of the US |
| 18:58.59 | DeathBarrel | and for the range |
| 18:59.05 | Patlabor221 | you mean the z buffer issue |
| 18:59.11 | Patlabor221 | yes that was fixed |
| 18:59.15 | DeathBarrel | yeah |
| 18:59.17 | Chestal | 'fixed', well :-) |
| 18:59.20 | DeathBarrel | yeah i noticed |
| 18:59.22 | Patlabor221 | DeathBarrel, have you have had anyone you know be shot and killed? |
| 18:59.29 | Noodleman_laptop | i think most people without a criminal record should be able to carry concealed weapons |
| 18:59.36 | brlcad | i almost always carry a tool that would probably be considered a weapon in most placed |
| 18:59.38 | Patlabor221 | and you still trivialise violence? |
| 18:59.38 | DeathBarrel | yep, had a good friend shot in kosovo |
| 18:59.39 | brlcad | places |
| 18:59.42 | Noodleman_laptop | then nobody could be victimized |
| 18:59.54 | DeathBarrel | brlcad: me too :) |
| 19:00.05 | Patlabor221 | anything can be a weapon |
| 19:00.09 | DeathBarrel | yep |
| 19:00.21 | DeathBarrel | but it is better to have a superior weapon :) |
| 19:00.24 | Chestal | yes, but there is a difference |
| 19:00.26 | Patlabor221 | I would ask you to change your sig on BZBB |
| 19:00.27 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 19:00.28 | Chestal | not all 'weapons' are the same |
| 19:00.34 | Patlabor221 | I find it inaproprate for a game |
| 19:00.47 | DeathBarrel | what? |
| 19:00.51 | DeathBarrel | my rifle? |
| 19:00.51 | Patlabor221 | DeathBarrel, you see things in the wrong way. |
| 19:00.55 | Patlabor221 | no your sig |
| 19:00.59 | Chestal | I wouldn't feel comfortable sitting at the same table with a person who wears a loaded gun |
| 19:01.00 | Patlabor221 | the statement that you murder people |
| 19:01.03 | DeathBarrel | the signature block? |
| 19:01.06 | Patlabor221 | yes |
| 19:01.08 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 19:01.13 | DeathBarrel | that is supposed to be funny |
| 19:01.18 | Patlabor221 | it's not |
| 19:01.21 | DeathBarrel | sure it is |
| 19:01.23 | Patlabor221 | noone else finds it funy |
| 19:01.25 | DeathBarrel | Pulp fiction |
| 19:01.34 | Patlabor221 | then put it as a quote |
| 19:01.42 | DeathBarrel | i thought i did |
| 19:01.44 | DeathBarrel | hmm |
| 19:01.46 | DeathBarrel | let me look |
| 19:01.58 | Patlabor221 | I see no source for the quote |
| 19:02.11 | DeathBarrel | oops srry |
| 19:02.13 | DeathBarrel | ok fixed now |
| 19:02.25 | DeathBarrel | now in quotes :) |
| 19:02.35 | Patlabor221 | and if you can bring back my sisters fiance with all your guns please do. |
| 19:02.45 | DeathBarrel | hehe |
| 19:02.51 | Patlabor221 | that was not a joke |
| 19:02.56 | DeathBarrel | he in iraq? |
| 19:02.59 | Patlabor221 | no |
| 19:03.01 | DeathBarrel | oops |
| 19:03.04 | Patlabor221 | he was on his driveway |
| 19:03.05 | DeathBarrel | my fault |
| 19:03.23 | DeathBarrel | shot himself or got shot? |
| 19:03.28 | Patlabor221 | got shot |
| 19:03.35 | DeathBarrel | by gangsters? |
| 19:03.57 | Patlabor221 | by people who had a lot of guns a lot of anger, and little to no self controll |
| 19:04.00 | DeathBarrel | there is a difference between gangsters and responsible gun owners |
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| 19:04.07 | Patlabor221 | yes there are |
| 19:04.13 | DeathBarrel | i consider myself a responsible gun owner |
| 19:04.20 | Patlabor221 | but it's not allways a hard line |
| 19:04.27 | Patlabor221 | I'm sure you do |
| 19:04.34 | Patlabor221 | must be why you need so many. |
| 19:04.51 | DeathBarrel | this discussion wont get us anywhere |
| 19:04.56 | Patlabor221 | no it wont |
| 19:05.00 | DeathBarrel | :) |
| 19:05.02 | Patlabor221 | but thanks for changing the quote |
| 19:05.07 | DeathBarrel | no problem |
| 19:05.21 | Patlabor221 | and make CVS WORK!!!!! :) |
| 19:05.28 | DeathBarrel | this is a conversation we would have to talk about in person |
| 19:05.45 | DeathBarrel | not on irc....i would develop carpultunnel before the end |
| 19:05.49 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 19:05.55 | Patlabor221 | as chestal said I would find it uncomfortable to talk to somone with a loaded weapon |
| 19:06.12 | DeathBarrel | i don't carry loaded weapons with me |
| 19:06.13 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 19:06.16 | Patlabor221 | well that's good |
| 19:06.21 | DeathBarrel | jeeze |
| 19:06.27 | Patlabor221 | hey many people do |
| 19:06.32 | Patlabor221 | and that is kinda spooky |
| 19:06.37 | DeathBarrel | they are stored in a nice Safe |
| 19:06.43 | DeathBarrel | sure |
| 19:06.46 | Patlabor221 | also good |
| 19:06.53 | DeathBarrel | idiot asses |
| 19:06.55 | Patlabor221 | damnit SF just times out now |
| 19:07.19 | DeathBarrel | stupid morons that think it is a cool thing to point guns at others |
| 19:07.41 | DeathBarrel | lol |
| 19:07.42 | DeathBarrel | good one |
| 19:08.40 | DeathBarrel | first of all those a**holes the right end of a rifle if the see one |
| 19:08.47 | Patlabor221 | I think for 1.11 I can change the way maps can look and not change the base gameplay :) |
| 19:08.53 | DeathBarrel | *don't know* |
| 19:09.00 | Patlabor221 | it's ok DB, we don't have to do that here as you said, it's cool |
| 19:09.07 | DeathBarrel | oki :) |
| 19:09.15 | DeathBarrel | pat: it really pisses me off also |
| 19:09.22 | Patlabor221 | I know |
| 19:09.26 | Patlabor221 | and tha'ts good to know :) |
| 19:09.41 | Patlabor221 | wonder how hard a sphere colision model would be |
| 19:09.45 | Patlabor221 | sorry cylinder |
| 19:10.25 | Patlabor221 | or maybe capy will just hook up ODE :) |
| 19:10.49 | Patlabor221 | chestal, you want to try my change local? |
| 19:10.50 | DeathBarrel | i think it would be cool to have flame throwers mounted ontop of the tanks, we could throw flames but would only kill after 5 sec of it touching another tank |
| 19:10.53 | Patlabor221 | Its a simple change |
| 19:11.31 | Patlabor221 | scene builder cxx, line 423 |
| 19:11.45 | Patlabor221 | just comment out the stuff in the if, cept the last 2 lines |
| 19:11.52 | Patlabor221 | the color and material stuff |
| 19:12.13 | Patlabor221 | with out incremnatal dammage DB, that would be hard to pull off |
| 19:12.20 | Patlabor221 | to hard to be fun I think |
| 19:12.37 | Patlabor221 | and Tim dosn't want any form of damage |
| 19:12.43 | Patlabor221 | 1 hit = kill |
| 19:12.55 | Chestal | Patlabor: I am not currently on my software machine |
| 19:12.59 | Patlabor221 | k |
| 19:13.07 | Patlabor221 | well I'll keep trying to update so I can test it |
| 19:13.08 | Chestal | Patlabor: but I guess I can reproduce the problem here when I swtich off textures, let me try |
| 19:13.13 | DeathBarrel | i made the quote even better now pat |
| 19:13.22 | Patlabor221 | coo |
| 19:13.52 | Patlabor221 | I wonder if it will ever be feasable to require textures |
| 19:13.59 | Patlabor221 | even if they are very low res |
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| 19:14.12 | DeathBarrel | stupid proxy |
| 19:14.34 | Patlabor221 | ahh well can allways do it with difrent drawables |
| 19:14.34 | Noodleman_laptop | bz isn't really playable without 3D, anyway |
| 19:14.39 | Noodleman_laptop | even without textures |
| 19:14.41 | Patlabor221 | some say it is |
| 19:14.45 | DeathBarrel | nah |
| 19:14.53 | Patlabor221 | chestal says it is |
| 19:15.01 | DeathBarrel | hmmm, maybe, but not for most |
| 19:15.09 | DeathBarrel | majority |
| 19:15.26 | Patlabor221 | this is why I want to get the clients to send version and GL string to the list server for tracking |
| 19:15.39 | Noodleman_laptop | lemme try it with my 2.7 gig hyperthreading cpu :-) |
| 19:15.42 | DeathBarrel | that would be cool |
| 19:16.06 | Noodleman_laptop | oops, forgot |
| 19:16.11 | Patlabor221 | 34 our of 36 people responded that they had some form of hardware |
| 19:16.15 | Noodleman_laptop | how to i turn off hardware 3D? |
| 19:16.28 | DeathBarrel | yep |
| 19:16.32 | DeathBarrel | that is why i said majority |
| 19:16.36 | Patlabor221 | on what OS? |
| 19:16.40 | Noodleman_laptop | on linux |
| 19:16.53 | Noodleman_laptop | without restarting the X server |
| 19:16.57 | Chestal | Patlabor: ah, only 34? Who's my software buddy? :-) |
| 19:16.57 | Patlabor221 | one way I know is to load the NV drivers not nvidia |
| 19:17.05 | DeathBarrel | 3d acceleration? |
| 19:17.07 | Patlabor221 | I don't know it dosn't keeps stats |
| 19:17.17 | Patlabor221 | Noodleman_laptop, it's not a seting in BZ, it's up to X |
| 19:17.21 | Chestal | bzflag runs just fine with software with the correct settings |
| 19:17.27 | Noodleman_laptop | ok, i figured as much |
| 19:17.30 | Chestal | Patlabor: heh, experimental is faster for me than high here :-) |
| 19:17.36 | Patlabor221 | good :) |
| 19:17.48 | Chestal | Patlabor: and yes, I can reproduce the problem withotu textures |
| 19:17.50 | Patlabor221 | it does less color state changes |
| 19:17.55 | Noodleman_laptop | brb |
| 19:18.00 | Chestal | Patlabor: I guess it's because smotthing is slow here and the lines in 3D are gone |
| 19:18.02 | Patlabor221 | ok, can you comment out thos elines and see |
| 19:18.21 | Patlabor221 | and exp makes less material state changes |
| 19:18.44 | Chestal | ah, I only messed aroudn with smoothing, with high it has a very big performance hit here |
| 19:18.49 | Chestal | ehm, what shall I change? |
| 19:18.59 | Patlabor221 | comment out lines 422 to 426 in scenebuilder.cxx |
| 19:19.09 | Patlabor221 | so that the if just has the last 2 items |
| 19:19.24 | Chestal | ok |
| 19:19.29 | Patlabor221 | fogot bases are handled difrenlty |
| 19:19.36 | Patlabor221 | so I don't think I have to do those |
| 19:20.19 | Chestal | your screenshots I saw on bz centrum use textures different from those in CVS? |
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| 19:21.34 | Noodleman_laptop | screw that, i'd have to replace my GL libs, and stuff |
| 19:21.41 | Noodleman_laptop | oh well |
| 19:21.42 | Patlabor221 | yes I was using the alt pack |
| 19:21.46 | Chestal | Pat: it works |
| 19:21.49 | Patlabor221 | not the cvs pac |
| 19:21.59 | Patlabor221 | ok cool, do they still work in textue mode? |
| 19:22.59 | Nidhoggr | I have to remind myself to remove the thumbnails.db in the alternate dir next time I make a hires build. |
| 19:23.25 | Chestal | yes |
| 19:23.32 | Patlabor221 | great |
| 19:23.46 | Patlabor221 | can you get to CVS? can you commit it? I cant even update |
| 19:23.47 | Chestal | less lines of code is always good :-) |
| 19:23.55 | Chestal | coudl not update 10 minutes ago either |
| 19:24.05 | Chestal | some hours ago it worked, albeit about 50 times slower than usual |
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| 19:24.15 | Chestal | no, doesn't work |
| 19:24.23 | Patlabor221 | well guess we will have to wait then, but at least we have a solution |
| 19:25.17 | Chestal | yep, was sure you'd come up with one pretty quickly, so I didn't even bother to look at the code |
| 19:25.26 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:25.45 | Nidhoggr | it's really slow. |
| 19:25.58 | Patlabor221 | it's all done so oddly that I keep making changes that make sense to me but are really "mistakes" |
| 19:26.05 | Nidhoggr | i wish we had a solution to be able to carry on properly without a working sourceforge |
| 19:26.28 | Chestal | mail all the diffs to Tim ;_) |
| 19:26.52 | Chestal | or - even better - paste them in the channel |
| 19:27.08 | Chestal | must look after my food - later |
| 19:27.18 | Patlabor221 | well if we had access to SF data directly, I could mirror the database |
| 19:27.18 | DeathBarrel | bbl |
| 19:27.39 | Nidhoggr | same here, pat. |
| 19:29.05 | Nidhoggr | fry's has a 250 GB drive with MIR (manufacturers instant rebate) for 144.99 |
| 19:41.29 | Noodleman_laptop | how much is the rebate |
| 19:44.35 | Nidhoggr | not sure. I'm going after lunch to find out. :) |
| 19:44.44 | Nidhoggr | that's the price after rebate, though. |
| 19:45.28 | Noodleman_laptop | it's a good price, in any case |
| 19:45.36 | Nidhoggr | nod. |
| 19:45.37 | Noodleman_laptop | i wish we had a fry's here :-( |
| 19:45.42 | JBdiGriz | Is that ad in your local paper? |
| 19:45.46 | Nidhoggr | they have a 180 with MIR for 79.99 |
| 19:45.48 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 19:46.04 | Noodleman_laptop | i liked the fry's they had up by portland |
| 19:46.34 | Patlabor221 | never been to that one |
| 19:46.43 | Patlabor221 | been to there corp headquarters tho |
| 19:47.02 | Patlabor221 | had to open a door that looked like a tree to get into the offices :) |
| 19:47.07 | Noodleman_laptop | it was the only fry's within about 8 hours, if i'm correct |
| 19:47.12 | JBdiGriz | It's in the online ads for Orange County as well, Western Digital, 214.99-70 rebate |
| 19:47.20 | Noodleman_laptop | but it was only 4 hours away |
| 19:47.41 | Patlabor221 | I would just have to drive to the valley to hit a frys |
| 19:47.57 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 19:48.10 | JBdiGriz | http://ads.myoc.com/onlineads/ocr/index.jsp?catId=1&adNumber=0006019772-01 |
| 19:48.17 | Nidhoggr | I'm going right after I finish lunch. I wonder if they have a limit to the number that you can get |
| 19:48.50 | JBdiGriz | The ad says 1 per customer, so take a friend |
| 19:48.54 | Nidhoggr | ah. |
| 19:48.56 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 19:49.35 | Nidhoggr | chili peppers on turkey burger are HOT. ooof! |
| 19:49.47 | Patlabor221 | sportchick is closer to orange county then I am |
| 19:50.39 | JBdiGriz | The orange county ads are good for Burbank and Woodland Hills as well. They aren't good for San Diego, but they tend to have the same things. |
| 19:50.53 | JBdiGriz | SportChick, Where are you? |
| 19:50.57 | Patlabor221 | ahh |
| 19:51.02 | Patlabor221 | I go to woodland hills |
| 19:51.08 | Patlabor221 | she is in redondo |
| 19:51.16 | JBdiGriz | You should check the online ads then |
| 19:51.26 | Patlabor221 | ohh I have the real add here :) |
| 19:51.29 | Patlabor221 | for our local one |
| 19:51.39 | Patlabor221 | but then I get stuff wholsale so kinda moot :) |
| 19:52.04 | Patlabor221 | next thing I'll get is a dvdrw for $95ish |
| 19:52.07 | JBdiGriz | I have the real ad downstairs, but then I have to go find it. I know where they are online ;) |
| 19:52.32 | JBdiGriz | Is that an 8x drive, or a 4x? |
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| 19:59.45 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:59.47 | Patlabor221 | don't recall |
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| 20:07.37 | Chestal | hi [dmp] |
| 20:07.42 | [dmp] | hi Chestal |
| 20:10.27 | [dmp] | Chestal: can you remove me from the contact page? |
| 20:10.28 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 20:10.36 | Nidhoggr | luck++ |
| 20:12.09 | Nidhoggr | alltel just announced restructuring/laying off 400-600 people. |
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| 20:12.23 | Nidhoggr | a friend of mine works for alltel |
| 20:13.25 | Nidhoggr | how 'bout that recovering economy. |
| 20:16.50 | JBdiGriz | It's unclear what the economy is doing. That makes companies nervous, and they tend to schedule layoffs when they get nervous. |
| 20:17.01 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 20:19.41 | Chestal | [dmp]: hmm, if you insist (and I remember how to do it :-) |
| 20:21.01 | [dmp] | Chestal: its in "Admin"-item if i remember correct. |
| 20:22.16 | Chestal | [dmp]: you are wiped out |
| 20:22.43 | [dmp] | Chestal: Brutal, thanks. |
| 20:38.34 | Grumbler | Nidhoggr: something is up with bzbb.....it emailed i had a private message, but when i logged in, it indicated i had not new messages......i then went to my mailbox and there was a new message............. |
| 20:41.25 | larsl | "Developer CVS access will be offline for 2004-01-23, continuing in to the weekend" |
| 20:41.33 | larsl | I guess maybe no 1.10.4 tomorrow? |
| 20:41.47 | brlcad | NOOoooooooo..... |
| 20:42.00 | Chestal | grmpf |
| 20:42.19 | Chestal | oh well, a few more days of testing cannot hurt :-) |
| 20:42.21 | Pimpinella | :( |
| 20:43.00 | JBdiGriz | maybe we can figure out what's wrong with the word filter, too ^@*% filtering ;) |
| 20:43.14 | Pimpinella | ~d |
| 20:43.33 | *** part/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@port151.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 20:43.37 | brlcad | NOOooooo@&&$^!*&@oooooo..... |
| 20:43.49 | Pimpinella | no? |
| 20:44.09 | brlcad | okay, maybe |
| 20:44.17 | Pimpinella | :) |
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| 20:45.14 | brlcad | *sniff* |
| 20:47.04 | Pimpinella | when i was a child and on long trips with ma parents, it took half an hour to get me ask 'when will we arrive' |
| 20:47.19 | Pimpinella | they always told me'very soon' |
| 20:47.42 | brlcad | "are we there yet?" |
| 20:47.55 | Pimpinella | ack |
| 20:48.35 | Pimpinella | even if we had to drive for some more hours |
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| 20:55.09 | larsl | Yay, my homebrew Knoppix boots. =) |
| 20:55.15 | larsl | Now I just have to add some packages. |
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| 20:55.42 | Nidhoggr | how easy is it to make homebrew knoppix? |
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| 20:56.22 | larsl | Nidhoggr: There is a great article on O'Reilly. |
| 20:56.37 | larsl | It explains almost everything. |
| 20:56.44 | Nidhoggr | I'm all conflicted now. I want to install linux on my home windows machine. |
| 20:56.53 | larsl | http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2003/11/20/knoppix.html |
| 20:58.01 | Nidhoggr | thanks. |
| 20:58.53 | Noodleman | i'm having problems with fedora on my laptop |
| 20:58.57 | Noodleman | it's driving me crazy |
| 20:58.58 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 20:59.02 | Noodleman | i've been wanting to try freebsd for a while, i wonder if this is a good time :-) |
| 20:59.10 | Nidhoggr | I understand fedora is still pretty buggy. |
| 20:59.12 | brlcad | it's always a good time |
| 20:59.22 | Noodleman | hehe |
| 20:59.55 | Noodleman | i actually like fedora, it's just that i have to do a bunch of custom stuff, because of my hardware |
| 21:00.07 | Noodleman | and it doesn't set well when i change anything |
| 21:00.30 | Noodleman | it's been working fine for a few months, i think |
| 21:00.40 | Noodleman | but, i think i'm gunna try freebsd |
| 21:01.33 | bryjen | laptops sometimes have... unique parts |
| 21:02.06 | Noodleman | indeed |
| 21:02.25 | Noodleman | although, my research tells me that freebsd should support my hardware out-of-the-box |
| 21:02.34 | bryjen | coo |
| 21:02.35 | Noodleman | at least CURRENT should |
| 21:02.42 | Noodleman | i don't know about STABLE |
| 21:02.57 | Noodleman | but i like living on the edge, anyway :-) |
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| 21:28.06 | Grumbler | ha...................haha.................................hahaha......................................hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha...........heh........heheh |
| 21:28.35 | Grumbler | badger badger badger badger badger badger mushroom mushroom mushroom............................. |
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| 21:29.56 | Nidhoggr | grumbler.. you need to lay off the anestetic. ;) |
| 21:30.22 | Nidhoggr | or the mushrooms are making you see badgers. |
| 21:31.34 | Chestal | haven't seen badger for ages |
| 21:31.48 | Chestal | only in movie credits :-) |
| 21:31.50 | Nidhoggr | it's been a while for me, too. |
| 21:31.59 | Nidhoggr | badgers are cool. |
| 21:32.04 | Nidhoggr | used to be stationed in idaho |
| 21:32.16 | Nidhoggr | army would do exercises in the desert |
| 21:32.17 | Chestal | Moles are cool, too |
| 21:32.27 | Nidhoggr | one guy was too lazy to dig a whole for latrine. |
| 21:32.33 | Nidhoggr | so he went in badger hole. |
| 21:32.38 | Nidhoggr | 150 stitches. |
| 21:32.49 | Nidhoggr | tore him new one. |
| 21:32.55 | brlcad | rotfl! |
| 21:32.59 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 21:33.23 | captain_proton | Chestal: =) |
| 21:34.31 | Chestal | nomis: du bist draußen! |
| 21:34.33 | Chestal | oopsa |
| 21:34.59 | brlcad | ~translate de en du bist drau?en! |
| 21:35.20 | brlcad | :) |
| 21:35.39 | brlcad | would that be "are you drunk!" :) |
| 21:35.47 | larsl_afk | ~translate de en draussen |
| 21:36.00 | brlcad | *snort* |
| 21:36.25 | Chestal | ~translate de en draußen |
| 21:36.30 | Chestal | hmm |
| 21:36.37 | Chestal | does he do utf-8? |
| 21:36.40 | Chestal | eh, she |
| 21:36.56 | brlcad | dunno if she passes it correctly to/from the fish |
| 21:37.11 | larsl_afk | Wow, Vega Strike needs 250 MB disk space. |
| 21:37.51 | brlcad | and people complain about bz's measly 2.5-5mb |
| 21:38.12 | Chestal | which would be about 2MB less when oggified |
| 21:38.43 | SportChick | I'm here...sorry |
| 21:38.46 | SportChick | what did you all need? |
| 21:39.58 | SportChick | (about to eat lunch) |
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| 21:41.00 | brlcad | Chestal, just wait till we add super high-res support in 2.0 ... :) |
| 21:41.23 | brlcad | hi SportChick |
| 21:41.28 | SportChick | hi brlcad |
| 21:41.56 | SportChick | apparently PatLabor221 and JBdiGriz were looking for me earlier, but I don't know why |
| 21:44.14 | SportChick | ah...I see..something to do with Frys ads. |
| 21:44.37 | SportChick | JBdiGriz, I'm in Redondo Beach. There's a Fry's about 10-15 minutes away in Manhattan Beach. |
| 21:47.25 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 21:47.34 | Nidhoggr | I still haven't had time to go to fry's. |
| 21:47.43 | Nidhoggr | someone sent in a ton of DNS changes. |
| 21:48.47 | Grumbler | Redondo Beach.........Cheesecake Factory....................ymmmmmmmm |
| 21:51.08 | captain_proton | what's going on with frys? |
| 21:53.10 | Patlabor221 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:53.22 | Patlabor221 | we have a cheescake factory in T.O. just 7 min away :) |
| 21:53.27 | Nidhoggr | there is a cheesecake factory in phoenix. |
| 21:53.35 | Patlabor221 | it's good |
| 21:53.39 | Patlabor221 | the godiva one |
| 21:53.41 | Nidhoggr | you'll have to come to phoenix and treat me there sometime, grumbler. ;) |
| 21:53.57 | Patlabor221 | my parents are looking to move to AZ |
| 21:54.28 | Nidhoggr | really? you'll have to come visit a lot then :) |
| 21:56.13 | Nidhoggr | if you do manage to get down here, I'll give you a tour of the datacenter, etc., and show you some of the things to do in phoenix. |
| 21:56.38 | Nidhoggr | sad thing the main things to do here are shop, eat and go to movies. |
| 21:56.45 | Nidhoggr | since it's so hot in the summer. |
| 21:58.21 | brlcad | cheesecake factory's seem like they are everywhere to me just because there is one in balmore too ;) |
| 21:58.47 | Nidhoggr | there are 2 in the phoenix valley. one is about 3 miles from my house. |
| 21:58.55 | Nidhoggr | still haven't tried it. |
| 21:58.59 | Nidhoggr | although I want to . |
| 22:00.01 | Patlabor221 | ohh you need to go |
| 22:00.06 | Patlabor221 | all the food is great |
| 22:00.15 | Patlabor221 | crabcakes are to die for |
| 22:01.06 | Chestal | larsl: '*** Received lag ping from server.***' <- looks like a \n is missing after that |
| 22:01.57 | larsl | Chestal: Hm, yes. |
| 22:02.58 | larsl | I don't get that, though. |
| 22:03.44 | larsl | And the \n should be added by the UI. |
| 22:04.53 | john` | im gonna make a new team |
| 22:05.11 | john` | jh,1,yoyox and mirella |
| 22:05.19 | Chestal | *** Received lag ping from server.*** 'oio' joined the game. |
| 22:05.22 | Chestal | is what I saw |
| 22:05.29 | larsl | Chestal: In what interface? |
| 22:05.35 | Chestal | larsl: curses |
| 22:06.35 | larsl | Ah, I think I know what it is. |
| 22:06.48 | Grumbler | Nidhoggr: spent 4.5 weeks in/around Redondo Beach for TRW.......ate at Cheesecake Factory every week night because it was across from the hotel..........small weight gain during that period |
| 22:10.01 | Patlabor221 | damn, 3380$ US to buy our mailserver software |
| 22:10.46 | captain_proton | people pay for mail server software? |
| 22:10.52 | Patlabor221 | seems so |
| 22:11.08 | Patlabor221 | tho I gots a fighter now that the boss will listen too |
| 22:11.27 | Patlabor221 | gonna get him to sugest a linux machine instead of the windows machine for mailserver |
| 22:11.37 | john` | hehe |
| 22:11.59 | john` | linux is good for servers |
| 22:12.06 | john` | but not for os |
| 22:12.18 | Patlabor221 | it works as well as you make it work |
| 22:12.30 | Patlabor221 | for what ever |