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| 00:00.31 | JBdiGriz | Of course, some parties will probably claim that they have a copyright now. ;) |
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| 00:07.28 | patlabor221 | so what did you make a SF project for? |
| 00:08.39 | Puffinator | .................... |
| 00:08.49 | patlabor221 | a lot of dots? |
| 00:08.55 | patlabor221 | pacman? |
| 00:08.58 | Puffinator | :) |
| 00:09.04 | Puffinator | With tanks :) |
| 00:09.18 | Puffinator | https://sourceforge.net/projects/ptcorps/ |
| 00:09.33 | patlabor221 | are you pyrobunny aswell? |
| 00:09.42 | Puffinator | Errr...... |
| 00:09.54 | Puffinator | Noooooooooooooo..... lol |
| 00:10.09 | patlabor221 | so each of you is making a SF project? |
| 00:10.19 | Puffinator | Errrr..... noooooo |
| 00:10.26 | Puffinator | Both of us are on one :) |
| 00:10.29 | patlabor221 | ahh |
| 00:10.43 | patlabor221 | how many devs on it? |
| 00:10.55 | Puffinator | 2 soon to be three :) |
| 00:11.11 | patlabor221 | what is the project? |
| 00:11.21 | Puffinator | ptcorps |
| 00:11.28 | patlabor221 | I know the name |
| 00:11.31 | patlabor221 | describe it? |
| 00:11.32 | Puffinator | Ahhh |
| 00:11.33 | triclops | "An adaptation of pyBzflag into an awesome and action-packed army game, with plastic tanks." |
| 00:11.33 | Puffinator | http://phpbb.spyrovii.info/viewtopic.php?t=143 |
| 00:11.46 | patlabor221 | fun |
| 00:12.01 | patlabor221 | so a pyBZ branch |
| 00:12.13 | Puffinator | Yp :) |
| 00:12.15 | Puffinator | *yup |
| 00:12.22 | patlabor221 | lot of work ahead of you |
| 00:12.29 | Puffinator | Well aware of it :) |
| 00:12.35 | patlabor221 | well best of luck |
| 00:12.40 | Puffinator | Thnx :) |
| 00:13.11 | patlabor221 | just don't let SGI see your doing antying new, he may go off on ya :) |
| 00:13.25 | Puffinator | OooooOoo |
| 00:13.28 | Puffinator | Why? |
| 00:13.32 | patlabor221 | was a joke |
| 00:13.37 | Puffinator | lol |
| 00:13.38 | Puffinator | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.41 | patlabor221 | if you had read BZBB today |
| 00:13.50 | Puffinator | Yes |
| 00:13.50 | patlabor221 | enough with the smilys and oooo's ok :) |
| 00:14.14 | Puffinator | Errr... |
| 00:14.19 | patlabor221 | the ileague post purple_cow |
| 00:14.33 | patlabor221 | he just is being odd, I know IST failed, and that must make him mad |
| 00:14.41 | patlabor221 | but he was a bit out of sorts |
| 00:14.43 | CIA-3 | 03jupiter * r3281 10bzedit/src/ (plugins/teleporter.h scene.c sceneobject.h): objects know their own tree location |
| 00:15.32 | Puffinator | That's a kinda understatement :-P |
| 00:15.46 | Puffinator | I can actually never understand what sgi is saying... |
| 00:15.52 | patlabor221 | it's hard |
| 00:16.14 | Puffinator | Yeah... |
| 00:16.28 | pyrobunny | heh heh |
| 00:16.34 | Puffinator | He needs to lay off of the hard liguids |
| 00:16.48 | Puffinator | I can understand that he may be foreign, but wow.... |
| 00:16.57 | pyrobunny | Puffinator : I just put some code in... gimme a second |
| 00:16.59 | patlabor221 | he's from minisota |
| 00:17.06 | Puffinator | O_O |
| 00:17.10 | Puffinator | O_o |
| 00:17.13 | Puffinator | o_O |
| 00:17.17 | patlabor221 | ok stop |
| 00:17.18 | patlabor221 | really |
| 00:17.21 | patlabor221 | we don't need those |
| 00:17.34 | Puffinator | lol |
| 00:17.35 | pyrobunny | heh |
| 00:17.36 | patlabor221 | or those |
| 00:18.03 | patlabor221 | well heh's are ok :) |
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| 00:31.01 | ski2 | hi all |
| 00:31.13 | orchid | hi ski |
| 00:31.20 | Puffinator | howdy ski :) |
| 00:31.24 | pyrobunny | hey ski |
| 00:31.34 | ski2 | hi hi and hi :) |
| 00:31.34 | JBdiGriz | speak of the devil, I was just talking about you. :) |
| 00:31.42 | ski2 | hopefully good |
| 00:31.49 | orchid | nope |
| 00:31.50 | patlabor221 | JBdiGriz has psycic prowes |
| 00:31.52 | JBdiGriz | sorry, I was being honest :) |
| 00:32.07 | CIA-3 | 03jupiter * r3282 10bzedit/ (14 files in 3 dirs): rename data files to something less annoying |
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| 00:32.47 | blossom | testing... |
| 00:32.53 | patlabor221 | yes you can talk :) |
| 00:33.00 | patlabor221 | the ban from lildog has been lifted |
| 00:33.04 | blossom | o okies |
| 00:33.21 | blossom | i tho i did sumtin wrong |
| 00:33.29 | blossom | =P |
| 00:33.40 | patlabor221 | nope, sadly it's all lildog and taht damed web IRC |
| 00:33.46 | blossom | ah |
| 00:35.43 | blossom | itz a skeery environment these dayz in bz ..so many feuds poppin upz itz got mee skittish LoL |
| 00:36.40 | patlabor221 | naw no fudes in here |
| 00:37.09 | pyrobunny | yes... |
| 00:37.38 | pyrobunny | it is safe blossom... |
| 00:37.50 | pyrobunny | with mighty patlabor221 gaurding the gates |
| 00:37.52 | blossom | =) |
| 00:38.03 | blossom | s'rite? |
| 00:38.28 | patlabor221 | naw |
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| 00:49.10 | CIA-3 | 03jupiter * r3283 10bzedit/ (6 files in 2 dirs): start a group object |
| 00:49.33 | Puffinator | What kind of bot is cia-3? |
| 00:49.41 | patlabor221 | a cia bot |
| 00:50.02 | patlabor221 | they were custom made for the CIA project |
| 00:50.04 | Puffinator | ~google "cia bot" |
| 00:50.07 | patlabor221 | yeah that |
| 00:50.12 | Puffinator | ahh |
| 00:50.14 | Puffinator | :-P |
| 00:50.39 | patlabor221 | if you want CIA to monitor your project and post to your channel then there are instructions there |
| 00:50.43 | blossom | chia bot ? |
| 00:50.48 | blossom | dat bot dat grows? |
| 00:51.03 | blossom | o cia , nvrmnd |
| 00:51.06 | Puffinator | lol |
| 00:51.16 | patlabor221 | reminds me that I need to hook CIA into the new sasami CVS server |
| 00:51.20 | patlabor221 | or go SVN |
| 00:51.45 | patlabor221 | you wana install it for me? |
| 00:52.12 | purple_cow | not really :P |
| 00:52.25 | patlabor221 | tho with apt it may not be that hard now |
| 00:52.33 | purple_cow | true |
| 00:52.38 | purple_cow | you could use navi-misc svn ;) |
| 00:53.08 | patlabor221 | > |
| 00:53.10 | patlabor221 | ? |
| 00:53.36 | purple_cow | i recall there are some pretty simple setup instructions too |
| 00:53.38 | patlabor221 | I'll have to check into TorticeSVN |
| 00:57.27 | patlabor221 | grrr I hate people who just distro .MSI files |
| 00:59.51 | patlabor221 | well I guess it's installed, will have to config it later |
| 01:00.26 | CIA-3 | 03jupiter * r3284 10bzedit/src/plugins/ (core.c group.c): reorder type registrations to put the group type after the others |
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| 01:16.28 | *** part/#bzflag ski2 (ski@pool-68-162-152-22.pitt.east.verizon.net) |
| 01:19.08 | Puffinator | ~google blinkenlights |
| 01:19.42 | pyrobunny | augh1 |
| 01:19.56 | pyrobunny | sourceforge is down... =| |
| 01:20.20 | Puffinator | Again!?!??!! |
| 01:20.23 | Puffinator | Argh :( |
| 01:20.28 | Puffinator | *sigh* |
| 01:20.47 | Puffinator | http://www.devshed.com/c/a/Python/MySQL-Connectivity-With-Python/ |
| 01:21.43 | pyrobunny | nah... I prefer php |
| 01:22.48 | Puffinator | Oks :) |
| 01:42.32 | scanline | pyrobunny: what's this PTCorps thing? |
| 01:42.48 | pyrobunny | new game being written |
| 01:43.02 | pyrobunny | why? |
| 01:43.19 | patlabor221 | cus he was the core developer of pybzflag :) |
| 01:43.26 | scanline | I was just curious, since it appently is using pybzengine... |
| 01:43.26 | pyrobunny | oh... |
| 01:43.34 | Puffinator | http://phpbb.spyrovii.info/viewtopic.php?t=143 |
| 01:43.34 | pyrobunny | ask puffinator... |
| 01:43.38 | Puffinator | http://phpbb.spyrovii.info/viewtopic.php?t=143 |
| 01:43.41 | scanline | Puffinator: you probably want to use pybzengine rather than pybzflag, I pulled the 3D engine itself out into its own project |
| 01:44.14 | Puffinator | .... |
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| 01:44.18 | patlabor221 | 1. Instead of jumping a Z axis will be added ? what does that mean? |
| 01:44.19 | Puffinator | I couldn't find it |
| 01:44.23 | Puffinator | Not that I looked |
| 01:44.28 | scanline | Puffinator: it's in navi-misc |
| 01:44.37 | Puffinator | Ahhhh..... |
| 01:44.42 | scanline | pybzflag hasn't been modified to use pybzengine yet, but it should be |
| 01:44.46 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/svn/misc/trunk/pybzengine/ |
| 01:44.58 | scanline | anyway, you probably want to pick a more mature 3D engine like ogre or CS, pybzengine's mostly just an experiment at this stage |
| 01:45.05 | patlabor221 | sounds like it can be done as a quake mod |
| 01:45.10 | scanline | it works for some things, but it's missing a lot and you won't find any support |
| 01:45.25 | patlabor221 | yeah many other engines have the features you want |
| 01:45.25 | Puffinator | Hmm... =( |
| 01:45.33 | Puffinator | Quake mod??!?!?!! |
| 01:45.35 | patlabor221 | and OGRE is DAMN slick |
| 01:45.39 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:45.40 | pyrobunny | hrm... |
| 01:45.48 | patlabor221 | your adding the same features quake has |
| 01:45.49 | pyrobunny | is /league under the open CVS? |
| 01:45.50 | patlabor221 | ramps |
| 01:46.00 | patlabor221 | ?? |
| 01:46.04 | Puffinator | Quake has tanks? |
| 01:46.06 | purple_cow | pyrobunny: i believe it is |
| 01:46.11 | pyrobunny | I cannot find it.. |
| 01:46.12 | patlabor221 | you could turn a dude into a tank |
| 01:46.17 | patlabor221 | it's just a model |
| 01:46.22 | scanline | one of the big focuses in pybzengine was a proof of concept that heavy duty 3D work can be done in python. While that part was mostly a success, PyOpenGL's stability is pretty limited |
| 01:46.36 | scanline | multitexture support for example is broken on some cards, and it doens't support the latest extensions |
| 01:46.44 | Puffinator | =[ |
| 01:46.55 | patlabor221 | it looks like OGRE has some sorta python support as well |
| 01:47.04 | patlabor221 | unless these py files are something else |
| 01:47.11 | Puffinator | ~google ogre 3d engine |
| 01:47.14 | scanline | yes, both OGRE and CS have python bindings |
| 01:47.22 | patlabor221 | ohh just open a browser man :) |
| 01:47.37 | purple_cow | or do it in /msg ;P |
| 01:47.42 | Puffinator | Yeah, you're right, I wish ibot pm'ed the results |
| 01:48.47 | Puffinator | Great, they have the ugliest website I've seen in a while :-/ |
| 01:48.59 | patlabor221 | and that has ANYTHING to do with the quaity of an engine? |
| 01:49.14 | patlabor221 | devs dev, artists art :) |
| 01:49.42 | Puffinator | True enough.. You are using this engine to create your own game? |
| 01:49.49 | scanline | the ogre web site isn't really ugly.. not like the CS demos are :P |
| 01:50.01 | pyrobunny | purple_cow : I cannot find it... |
| 01:50.05 | scanline | Puffinator: good 3D engine developers usually don't know the first thing about art |
| 01:50.10 | patlabor221 | I am hooking up ogre now |
| 01:50.18 | scanline | Puffinator: it's ok, because people who make games have their own artists |
| 01:50.20 | patlabor221 | they leave that to the game designers |
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| 01:50.29 | patlabor221 | they can spend more time on the engine :) |
| 01:50.36 | Puffinator | A very wise idea in this case, I'd say... |
| 01:50.59 | patlabor221 | Ogre even supports quake3 maps |
| 01:51.05 | Puffinator | Realllly |
| 01:51.05 | patlabor221 | so you'd get your ramps and stuff off the bat |
| 01:51.07 | patlabor221 | yeah |
| 01:51.26 | Puffinator | Is some form of collision detection supported? |
| 01:51.27 | patlabor221 | pluss people are hooking ODE into it |
| 01:51.32 | patlabor221 | it has some |
| 01:51.45 | patlabor221 | there are examples for BSP with and with out collisions |
| 01:51.53 | patlabor221 | pluss ragdoll support it seems now |
| 01:52.08 | Puffinator | Yes, which is most impressive |
| 01:52.16 | Puffinator | It also has java bindings... |
| 01:53.05 | patlabor221 | still sounds like you could do it in a quake mod |
| 01:53.05 | Puffinator | http://www.bytelords.de/cowiki/426.html?cowiki=056ac47f1ec1e80778df0a5756d71320 |
| 01:53.14 | patlabor221 | difent weps all that, has been done |
| 01:53.27 | pyrobunny | patlabor221 : do you happen to know where the files for /league/ our? |
| 01:53.31 | pyrobunny | *are |
| 01:53.33 | patlabor221 | there is also a C# version ion the works |
| 01:53.37 | patlabor221 | you mean for the website? |
| 01:53.41 | pyrobunny | yeah... |
| 01:53.42 | patlabor221 | I don't think they are in CVS |
| 01:53.46 | patlabor221 | you would have to ask chestal |
| 01:53.50 | patlabor221 | send him a PM on bzbb |
| 01:54.07 | pyrobunny | k |
| 01:54.12 | pyrobunny | thanks |
| 02:00.34 | Puffinator | Python is out |
| 02:00.36 | Puffinator | After fishing through the Forums for the nth time I finally read a post by Sinbad about python. |
| 02:00.36 | Puffinator | It seems that it is officially dead - why isn't that mentioned in the docs? |
| 02:00.46 | Puffinator | That's from their forum. |
| 02:00.49 | Puffinator | :-/ |
| 02:01.00 | patlabor221 | join #ogre3d and ask |
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| 02:03.25 | purple_cow | well |
| 02:03.39 | purple_cow | it's looking like dnd grouping is going to be the slickest thing since sliced bread |
| 02:03.45 | purple_cow | but there's a real dearth of documentation =( |
| 02:03.47 | Puffinator | No one is there and recently active but you pat ;) |
| 02:03.48 | patlabor221 | DnD? |
| 02:03.54 | purple_cow | drag n' drop |
| 02:03.59 | patlabor221 | then you will have to wait Puffinator |
| 02:04.04 | Puffinator | :( |
| 02:04.11 | patlabor221 | welcome to the real world :) |
| 02:04.36 | patlabor221 | read the topic in the channel Puffinator |
| 02:04.48 | Puffinator | Yep and that too :-/ |
| 02:05.02 | patlabor221 | that's very common |
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| 02:06.17 | pyrobunny | hi MrApathyCream |
| 02:06.34 | pyrobunny | boot to the head? |
| 02:06.45 | patlabor221 | probably to old for you |
| 02:06.56 | Puffinator | How old are you pat? =/ |
| 02:07.07 | MrApathyCream | howdy |
| 02:07.07 | patlabor221 | take a guess |
| 02:07.12 | patlabor221 | sup MAC |
| 02:07.16 | pyrobunny | 43 |
| 02:07.21 | MrApathyCream | my cholesterol |
| 02:07.22 | patlabor221 | bit high there |
| 02:07.27 | pyrobunny | 42 |
| 02:07.32 | patlabor221 | more then a bit high |
| 02:07.39 | pyrobunny | 26 |
| 02:07.44 | Puffinator | 32 |
| 02:07.49 | patlabor221 | rather close |
| 02:07.53 | pyrobunny | 30 |
| 02:07.55 | Puffinator | 36 ;-) |
| 02:08.04 | patlabor221 | you jump around too much |
| 02:08.08 | JBdiGriz | It's only listed in a number of different places if you take the time to read instead of typing. |
| 02:08.09 | Puffinator | 24 |
| 02:08.10 | patlabor221 | consolodate your answers |
| 02:08.16 | Puffinator | Ahhhhh |
| 02:08.17 | pyrobunny | 33 |
| 02:08.22 | Puffinator | lol |
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| 02:08.36 | pyrobunny | no one listens to you... *duh* |
| 02:08.50 | pyrobunny | hi Chikorita |
| 02:08.56 | MrApathyCream | hmmm no libcurl? |
| 02:08.56 | Puffinator | hi chik |
| 02:08.57 | Chikorita | hi pb |
| 02:09.05 | Chikorita | hi puffi |
| 02:09.16 | JBdiGriz | libcurl isn't updated on redhat 7.3 |
| 02:09.17 | purple_cow | MrApathyCream: it's not supported in debian stable yet |
| 02:09.20 | patlabor221 | aperantly libcul sucks |
| 02:09.34 | JBdiGriz | The version in debian stable is also very old |
| 02:09.37 | purple_cow | i think i made the case for tim that redhat 7.3 isn't really necessary for support, but debian stable is |
| 02:09.56 | patlabor221 | perhaps you sould ask your question instead of just saying "HI" in #ogre3d, then maybe you'll get an answer |
| 02:10.19 | Puffinator | I've answered it myself already :) |
| 02:10.24 | patlabor221 | there ya go |
| 02:10.31 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 02:10.34 | MrApathyCream | ooops |
| 02:11.07 | MrApathyCream | oooof , learner pulled out his MACRO bat, i see |
| 02:11.48 | JBdiGriz | learner was eaten by a grue. We haven't seen him since. |
| 02:12.22 | MrApathyCream | luckily he's left things in shambles |
| 02:12.34 | MrApathyCream | (to compensate for the lack of libcurl) |
| 02:12.35 | JBdiGriz | You wouldn't want him to be forgotten. |
| 02:12.53 | MrApathyCream | no |
| 02:12.56 | MrApathyCream | certainly not |
| 02:13.35 | MrApathyCream | wow comma syntax, i haven't seen that in a while |
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| 02:14.27 | scanline | comma syntax? |
| 02:14.40 | MrApathyCream | in a macro a, b |
| 02:14.46 | MrApathyCream | meaning do a, return b |
| 02:14.49 | JBdiGriz | It's a price you pay for doing strange things to commas. |
| 02:14.51 | MrApathyCream | or at least it looks like that |
| 02:15.40 | MrApathyCream | oh maybe not |
| 02:15.42 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 02:15.47 | MrApathyCream | got lost in the parens |
| 02:16.11 | scanline | oh, commas in C |
| 02:16.13 | JBdiGriz | It's easy to get lost when you're thinking about those strange things with commas. |
| 02:16.28 | *** part/#bzflag pyrobunny (~mauddib@cpe-024-165-183-098.midsouth.rr.com) |
| 02:16.32 | scanline | commas are the most fun in for loops :) |
| 02:16.52 | purple_cow | or obfuscated programming |
| 02:16.56 | JBdiGriz | The taxes are extremely high in for loops. |
| 02:16.57 | scanline | ah, that too |
| 02:17.00 | purple_cow | like...making your program into a poem |
| 02:17.06 | scanline | I need to make an obfuscated C version of fyre |
| 02:17.14 | purple_cow | eek |
| 02:17.17 | scanline | ooh, with XVideo |
| 02:17.27 | purple_cow | howabout you make an arbitrary function version of fyre? ;-) |
| 02:17.35 | scanline | getting there :) |
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| 02:24.22 | MrApathyCream | hmmm it doesn't seem to me that you can but curly braces inside round braces can you |
| 02:24.25 | MrApathyCream | the macro expands to |
| 02:24.26 | MrApathyCream | ({if (!((p->next < p->end) && (*p->next++) == (')'))) SETERROR(REG_EPAREN);}) |
| 02:25.41 | MrApathyCream | yup thats it |
| 02:26.33 | CIA-3 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/regex/regcomp.c: fun with macros |
| 02:26.55 | patlabor221 | what does regex do again? |
| 02:27.59 | MrApathyCream | pattern matching |
| 02:28.46 | patlabor221 | for...? |
| 02:28.57 | MrApathyCream | the bad lang filter thingy |
| 02:29.06 | patlabor221 | ahh |
| 02:29.25 | SportChick | Nidhoggr? you around? |
| 02:31.40 | CIA-3 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (JoinMenu.cxx bzflag.cxx): unhack winsock2 cause libcurl is gone |
| 02:32.36 | Nidhoggr | ? |
| 02:32.40 | Nidhoggr | working on dinner. |
| 02:33.48 | DTRemenak | MrApathyCream: I wouldn't recommend unhacking winsock, unless it's necessary for it to work as is |
| 02:34.38 | MrApathyCream | hmm? |
| 02:34.49 | MrApathyCream | just removing #include <winsock2.h> |
| 02:34.54 | CIA-3 | 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/win32/VC71/bzflag.vcproj: remove libCurl.lib from build |
| 02:35.16 | CIA-3 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/ (common/ShotUpdate.cxx net/Pack.cxx net/Ping.cxx): get high on winsock2 removal |
| 02:35.26 | DTRemenak | ok, whatever...but it's most likely coming back |
| 02:35.51 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 02:36.19 | DTRemenak | it's kinda necessary for a bunch of things tupone plans on doing; he's found no suitable replacement |
| 02:36.28 | MrApathyCream | patlabor221: remove from installer too, no? |
| 02:36.34 | CIA-3 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/win32/VC6/bzflag.dsp: that patlabor fallo is a smartie, follow suit |
| 02:36.37 | patlabor221 | yea |
| 02:36.56 | DTRemenak | we'll probably end up with a copy in the bzflag source tree for platforms that don't have the lib |
| 02:37.44 | DTRemenak | (which would be removed when debian stable reaches its next iteration and has a near-modern copy) |
| 02:42.15 | MrApathyCream | how are walkin' tanks goin? |
| 02:43.01 | patlabor221 | they would be if I could figure out why my hardwarebuffers singleton is null |
| 02:45.27 | patlabor221 | I have no controll over this one it's in the engine |
| 02:45.44 | patlabor221 | but it would help if I INITALISED that engine before I make a camera |
| 02:45.54 | MrApathyCream | perhaps |
| 02:46.16 | patlabor221 | and I can now verify that yes it does indeed help :) |
| 02:50.13 | SportChick | hiya everyone |
| 02:50.28 | patlabor221 | whatup |
| 02:50.55 | SportChick | just got back from dinner |
| 02:50.59 | SportChick | spent the day testdriving cars |
| 02:51.18 | MrApathyCream | prius? |
| 02:51.53 | SportChick | nope |
| 02:51.59 | creeperz | i was drivign in the country today and hit a bump and busted my spare tire mount |
| 02:52.07 | SportChick | gonna contribute to the largeness of the USA |
| 02:52.14 | SportChick | looking at SUVs or wagons |
| 02:52.21 | SportChick | test drove SUVs today |
| 02:52.25 | SportChick | still have tons on the list to try |
| 02:52.38 | SportChick | heh |
| 02:54.11 | scanline | ick, SUVs? |
| 02:54.15 | MrApathyCream | if only there were more flags to impl |
| 02:54.25 | MrApathyCream | but alas, tim says it makes the game to hard |
| 02:54.58 | patlabor221 | and all non karma code is not important. |
| 02:55.03 | scanline | SUVs just aren't good for anything.. if you want to go offroad, get a jeep. if you want to carry a lot, get a truck, if you want something that looks good, get a hybrid :) |
| 02:55.31 | MrApathyCream | if you wanna run over sports cars, get an suv |
| 02:55.51 | scanline | haha |
| 02:55.58 | scanline | that's what the jeep is for |
| 02:56.17 | scanline | driving over other cars is a form of offroading :) |
| 02:56.17 | MrApathyCream | well, jeep only if you are trying not to damage the cars too much |
| 02:56.34 | scanline | nah, jeeps are easy to modify |
| 02:56.41 | MrApathyCream | SUV = jeep w SR flag |
| 02:56.55 | scanline | shortwave radio? |
| 02:57.05 | MrApathyCream | steamroller |
| 02:57.08 | scanline | aww |
| 02:58.00 | MrApathyCream | patlabor221: karma deving is really the domain of those who run servers |
| 02:58.24 | patlabor221 | don't tell me that |
| 02:58.27 | patlabor221 | tell the man |
| 02:58.53 | patlabor221 | don't you know that only one thing can happen to the project at a time |
| 02:59.00 | purple_cow | MrApathyCream: port bzedit-ng to windows! |
| 02:59.03 | purple_cow | *ahem* |
| 02:59.10 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 02:59.14 | scanline | it would be really nice if none of the flags were hardcoded.. each flag was an object on the server that included a set of parameters or maybe code for a very simple and restricted VM |
| 02:59.15 | SportChick | Grumbler: are you around? |
| 02:59.25 | patlabor221 | you could add the teture filters to TM |
| 02:59.26 | MrApathyCream | yes it would |
| 02:59.28 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 02:59.34 | MrApathyCream | no, that's the job of 'someone' |
| 02:59.41 | scanline | then server admins could create their own flags.. there would be a lot more crappy flags out there, but a lot more good ones would bubble to the top |
| 03:00.03 | MrApathyCream | i am often confused with someone |
| 03:00.27 | patlabor221 | this is why I think that flags should just apply status modifyers to tanks, then you could make the flag just define what statuses it applys |
| 03:00.36 | patlabor221 | and liek you said not be hardcoded |
| 03:00.52 | patlabor221 | then you could have shots apply those status modifyers too |
| 03:00.56 | patlabor221 | and stuff other then flags |
| 03:00.58 | patlabor221 | like zones |
| 03:01.06 | scanline | what are zones in bzflag? |
| 03:01.26 | MrApathyCream | box-like locations where things come to be |
| 03:01.30 | MrApathyCream | (currently) |
| 03:01.45 | scanline | things like flags and tanks? |
| 03:01.46 | patlabor221 | they should be more then box like locations |
| 03:01.49 | MrApathyCream | yes |
| 03:01.55 | scanline | cute |
| 03:01.58 | patlabor221 | like a zone where you go fast |
| 03:01.59 | SportChick | SoMEonE has a birthday coming up |
| 03:02.10 | patlabor221 | MrApathyCream does? |
| 03:02.16 | MrApathyCream | no wollner |
| 03:02.30 | MrApathyCream | wollner's is tomorrow |
| 03:02.34 | SportChick | MAC |
| 03:02.46 | SportChick | MAC's is Thurdsay |
| 03:03.21 | SportChick | heh |
| 03:03.22 | MrApathyCream | why yes it is |
| 03:03.26 | SportChick | :) |
| 03:03.59 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 03:04.08 | MrApathyCream | off by a couple of score |
| 03:04.20 | patlabor221 | naw dude you had wraparound :) |
| 03:04.23 | SportChick | heh |
| 03:04.33 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 03:04.43 | scanline | yeah, we only use 6 bits for years around here |
| 03:04.51 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 03:04.53 | MrApathyCream | coo |
| 03:05.00 | MrApathyCream | tell it to my joints |
| 03:05.09 | patlabor221 | well we need the "old" bit, and the "busted a hip" bit |
| 03:05.23 | scanline | yep, there's that' |
| 03:15.27 | *** join/#bzflag KR (~krrt@cpe-024-211-060-153.sc.rr.com) |
| 03:15.46 | MrApathyCream | goto 10 |
| 03:16.06 | KR | hi all |
| 03:16.17 | DTRemenak | MAC: tried the RFE list yet? ;) |
| 03:16.29 | MrApathyCream | rfe? |
| 03:16.33 | KR | MAC, in case I don't see you day after tomorrow - Happy Birthday! :D |
| 03:16.40 | MrApathyCream | thanks kr |
| 03:16.44 | DTRemenak | feature requests - sourceforge |
| 03:17.39 | KR | 29? ;) |
| 03:18.06 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 03:18.36 | KR | cool pat - looks good |
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| 03:19.50 | Puffinator | ~pi |
| 03:19.51 | ibot | methinks pi is 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 |
| 03:24.22 | JBdiGriz | MrApathyCream: what? |
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| 03:30.18 | JBdiGriz | MrApathyCream: what? |
| 03:30.22 | MrAC | huh? |
| 03:30.27 | JBdiGriz | you called. |
| 03:30.32 | MrAC | i did? |
| 03:30.51 | JBdiGriz | According to the log you did. |
| 03:30.59 | MrAC | about the birthday? |
| 03:31.07 | JBdiGriz | what about it? |
| 03:31.19 | MrAC | tomorrow? |
| 03:31.31 | JBdiGriz | you're the day after tomorrow. :) |
| 03:32.03 | MrAC | just give my brain back after you're done playing with it |
| 03:32.21 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o MrApathyCream] by ChanServ |
| 03:32.29 | JBdiGriz | but it's so fun to play with, would you like a new nick for your birthday? |
| 03:32.35 | MrApathyCream | heh |
| 03:35.37 | CIA-3 | 03jupiter * r3297 10bzedit/src/ (editor.c plugins/world.c sceneobject.c sceneobject.h): get the first part of DnD implemented |
| 03:36.50 | CIA-3 | 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: remove libcurl |
| 03:38.22 | Puffinator | Ahhhhh |
| 03:56.45 | MrApathyCream | purple_cow: does the editor have a life property editor? |
| 03:56.49 | MrApathyCream | er live |
| 03:57.12 | MrApathyCream | that would be useful |
| 03:57.58 | purple_cow | live? |
| 03:58.24 | MrApathyCream | change the x, and the box moves |
| 03:58.25 | MrApathyCream | etc |
| 03:59.05 | purple_cow | yep |
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