| 00:14.38 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/SpawnPosition.cxx: Fix valgrind error; don't spawn if you'll be shot by friendly fire either |
| 00:16.58 | CIA-1 | navi-misc: 03jeffm * r4434 10firestarter/ (9 files in 7 dirs): |
| 00:16.58 | CIA-1 | navi-misc: add in server side world class |
| 00:16.58 | CIA-1 | navi-misc: read in worlds from command line |
| 00:16.58 | CIA-1 | navi-misc: send world to client on connect |
| 00:16.58 | CIA-1 | navi-misc: add tuft groups |
| 00:32.28 | Tupone | purple_cow: where I can get decks world ? |
| 00:32.52 | purple_cow | Tupone: i think it's in the worlds tracker on sf |
| 00:34.11 | Tupone | file deleted :( |
| 00:35.03 | purple_cow | http://navi.cx/~jupiter/bzflag/decks |
| 00:35.27 | Tupone | thanx |
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| 00:44.03 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Hopefully fix a bunch of valgrind errors |
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| 01:17.39 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx: string copied with strdup should be free-ed not deleted |
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| 03:58.48 | Nikaji | blaah |
| 04:00.22 | trepan | habla |
| 04:00.35 | Nikaji | :P |
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| 04:03.46 | Mozul | hello, I have a question about video cards. |
| 04:04.15 | Mozul | I currently have an ati card, but just received a GForce card. Should I remove the ATI Drivers before I install the GForce Card? |
| 04:07.42 | DTRemenak | yes |
| 04:08.37 | Mozul | ok thanks |
| 04:09.09 | mebigfatguy | what kind of gforce? |
| 04:09.14 | mebigfatguy | 6800? |
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| 04:09.35 | mebigfatguy | (one can hope) |
| 04:09.55 | Mozul | not sure |
| 04:10.11 | SportChick | ~seen Patlabor221 |
| 04:10.15 | ibot | patlabor221 <~JeffM@208.48.199.220> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 4h 33m 9s ago, saying: 'Noodleman, as long as your mom dosn't dress you'. |
| 04:10.21 | Mozul | the card was a gift (its used) Says GEFORCE2-V on one of the chips |
| 04:10.31 | tofu | howdy mozul, ltns |
| 04:11.44 | *** part/#bzflag Mozul (~kirk@ca-redbch-cuda1-c7a-251.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 04:12.15 | tofu | well shucks .. scared him away |
| 04:12.30 | SportChick | he's rebooting |
| 04:12.32 | tofu | bzflag player makes slashdot comment: http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/06/01/1841248&mode=thread&tid=127&tid=186 ;) |
| 04:12.36 | SportChick | working on getting the new one installed |
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| 04:19.24 | DTRemenak | tofu: btw, wordfilter leaks |
| 04:20.47 | tofu | oh? |
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| 04:21.26 | DTRemenak | at least, valgrind claims it does - some 51K |
| 04:21.36 | tofu | I ran it through a leak detector a while back after converting most of it to stl, and the leaks were plugged |
| 04:21.48 | DTRemenak | if you'd like the logs for it, I can do that |
| 04:21.55 | tofu | sure |
| 04:22.14 | shorty114 | where can i find a list of the bzflag modules for cvs? |
| 04:22.49 | tofu | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/ |
| 04:23.35 | shorty114 | h ok |
| 04:23.37 | shorty114 | ah ok |
| 04:23.50 | tofu | your welcome |
| 04:23.55 | shorty114 | :) |
| 04:28.45 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:29.04 | shorty114 | ~seen Patlabor221 |
| 04:29.05 | ibot | patlabor221 <~JeffM@208.48.199.220> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 4h 51m 59s ago, saying: 'Noodleman, as long as your mom dosn't dress you'. |
| 04:29.13 | shorty114 | lol |
| 04:29.26 | shorty114 | ~viper |
| 04:29.48 | shorty114 | ~hepcat |
| 04:30.09 | shorty114 | wow...hepcat's packed! |
| 04:30.13 | tofu | eep |
| 04:30.17 | shorty114 | (isn't it always) |
| 04:30.27 | tofu | maybe I shouldn't have made that.. |
| 04:30.32 | shorty114 | wat? |
| 04:30.49 | tofu | nvr mind |
| 04:31.08 | shorty114 | ~ducati |
| 04:31.25 | shorty114 | why is ducati empty whenever i go there? |
| 04:31.34 | shorty114 | but when i go to another server and come back, it's full... |
| 04:31.41 | shorty114 | ~quol |
| 04:31.54 | shorty114 | ~seen ibot |
| 04:31.54 | ibot | ibot is currently on #picogui (16h 37m 27s) #zaurus (16h 37m 27s) #teleconf (16h 37m 27s) #tomcat (16h 37m 27s) #opie (16h 37m 27s) #familiar (16h 37m 27s) #uclibc (16h 37m 27s) #intimate (16h 37m 27s) #gllug (16h 37m 27s) #gpe (16h 37m 27s) #oe (16h 37m 27s) #elinux (16h 37m 27s) #handhelds.org (16h 37m 27s) #utah (16h 37m 27s) #project24 (16h 37m 27s) #bzflag (16h 37m 27s) #openzaurus (16h 37m 27s) |
| 04:34.24 | Nidhoggr | tofu! |
| 04:34.25 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 04:34.54 | tofu | what! |
| 04:34.55 | tofu | :) |
| 04:34.57 | Nidhoggr | hiya |
| 04:35.12 | tofu | howdy |
| 04:35.40 | SportChick | tofu: sushi!!!! :) |
| 04:35.48 | tofu | :( |
| 04:36.44 | SportChick | what's wrong tofu? can't find any sushi? |
| 04:36.49 | SportChick | hamachi |
| 04:36.53 | tofu | not at this hour |
| 04:37.06 | SportChick | unagi, anago, sake, ahi, toro |
| 04:37.08 | SportChick | ? |
| 04:37.18 | tofu | unagi and saki |
| 04:37.27 | Nidhoggr | unagi is another favorite. |
| 04:37.34 | Nidhoggr | I like hamachi belly |
| 04:37.47 | SportChick | ever notice how unagi always seems to be more popular than anago? |
| 04:38.10 | tofu | anago is hard to find here .. but I love that too |
| 04:38.27 | SportChick | it's good, but tends to have a more fishy taste, I think |
| 04:38.30 | SportChick | heh |
| 04:38.41 | SportChick | shorty114: wine?! naw...SUSHI |
| 04:39.14 | mebigfatguy | mozul pci or agp? |
| 04:39.23 | mebigfatguy | hmm prolly pci |
| 04:39.39 | DTRemenak | tofu: sent a couple valgrind logs to your sf.net e-mail addy |
| 04:39.49 | tofu | DTR, okies |
| 04:40.06 | Nidhoggr | hiya MrAC |
| 04:40.13 | tofu | Sportster, did the card fix the problem? |
| 04:40.19 | shorty114 | lol |
| 04:40.20 | SportChick | mebigfatguy: agp is the one |
| 04:40.36 | mebigfatguy | lo nids |
| 04:40.43 | SportChick | replacing an ATI Rage 128 pro |
| 04:40.51 | SportChick | he's still installing, tofu |
| 04:40.56 | mebigfatguy | heh |
| 04:41.00 | Nidhoggr | ltns |
| 04:41.05 | tofu | i wonder if boosting the card _that_ much will just mask the performance problem.. |
| 04:41.24 | shorty114 | agp |
| 04:41.30 | shorty114 | isn't pci old and agp new? |
| 04:41.35 | shorty114 | well i'm voting for new one |
| 04:41.43 | mebigfatguy | yes |
| 04:41.48 | tofu | no, they are different interfaces |
| 04:41.57 | mebigfatguy | but pci predates agp |
| 04:42.00 | shorty114 | i like agp...it's faster or something |
| 04:42.04 | shorty114 | i read somewhere |
| 04:42.13 | mebigfatguy | was ati apg? |
| 04:42.17 | mebigfatguy | agp? |
| 04:42.29 | DTRemenak | tofu: may turn out to be nothing, but that's the only module that leaks more than a few bytes (bzfs.cxx leaks 56 bytes from a listserverlink too, otherwise all clean) |
| 04:42.42 | mebigfatguy | poor tofu |
| 04:42.53 | tofu | mbfg, true true, though agp does not strictly replace pci |
| 04:42.59 | shorty114 | u know how small our forums are? |
| 04:43.12 | shorty114 | forum.americasarmy.com had 969 ppl online at once |
| 04:43.17 | shorty114 | we had 16 lol |
| 04:43.19 | shorty114 | :) |
| 04:43.30 | shorty114 | i like smaller... |
| 04:44.55 | SportChick | mebigfatguy: yes, the ati was agp |
| 04:45.58 | mebigfatguy | ok |
| 04:50.18 | SportChick | cool, comparing the 2 videocards side to side, old one gave us 19-24fps. on the new one we're running 40 or so |
| 04:52.37 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:52.48 | tofu | DTR, on quick glance, it may be regcomp that is leaking.. |
| 04:52.56 | DTRemenak | hm |
| 04:52.56 | tofu | but I shall investigate |
| 04:52.59 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:53.12 | Nidhoggr | ~karma patlabor221 |
| 04:53.12 | ibot | patlabor221 has karma of 19 |
| 04:53.14 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 04:53.16 | tofu | DTRemenak, was this using our libregex, or linux system one? |
| 04:53.21 | DTRemenak | tofu: cool, thanks - I tried poking around and got lost :) |
| 04:53.25 | DTRemenak | hm...just a sec |
| 04:54.15 | tofu | the amount lost is proportional to the number of regcomp calls.. perhaps I init something I send that I dont' need to |
| 04:54.18 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:54.27 | SportChick | ~Nidhoggr++ |
| 04:54.33 | SportChick | ~learner++ |
| 04:54.36 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:54.47 | tofu | heh, someone's in a good mood :) |
| 04:54.50 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 04:54.57 | trepan | scanline: only 200 more times for Patlabor -> Patlabor221 |
| 04:54.58 | DTRemenak | tofu: looks like system, HAVE_REGEX_H is 1 |
| 04:55.15 | trepan | oops, that was for SC |
| 04:55.16 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:55.21 | SportChick | what was that? |
| 04:55.22 | SportChick | heh |
| 04:55.23 | SportChick | oh! |
| 04:55.26 | SportChick | wanna help? |
| 04:55.33 | trepan | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:55.39 | trepan | token effort ;) |
| 04:55.40 | SportChick | it would be hilarious for him to log on and find he's suddenly got that much karma |
| 04:55.45 | Nidhoggr | ~Patlabor221 |
| 04:55.46 | ibot | patlabor221 is probably something of an enigma. |
| 04:55.46 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:55.57 | SportChick | ~Nidhoggr++ |
| 04:56.03 | SportChick | ~trepan++ |
| 04:56.09 | SportChick | keep the effort up, trepan |
| 04:56.11 | SportChick | :) |
| 04:56.13 | Nidhoggr | hrm. you can't do them too close together. |
| 04:56.16 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:56.22 | SportChick | yeah, ibot gets testy |
| 04:56.23 | trepan | i was trying to /msg it... |
| 04:56.32 | Nidhoggr | karma has to be public |
| 04:56.41 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:56.45 | SportChick | ~Nidhoggr++ |
| 04:56.49 | trepan | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:56.49 | Nidhoggr | darin is wrapping presents for scipio's birthday tomorrow. |
| 04:57.02 | SportChick | ~learner++ |
| 04:57.07 | Nidhoggr | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:57.13 | trepan | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:57.14 | SportChick | heh! what is he gettin? |
| 04:57.18 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:57.21 | Nidhoggr | a bunch of stuff. |
| 04:57.26 | SportChick | ~karma PatLabor221 |
| 04:57.26 | ibot | patlabor221 has karma of 30 |
| 04:57.27 | tofu | DTRemenak, the only thing I can guess is regcomp is clearing out the compiledReg calloc() that I perform right before |
| 04:57.30 | SportChick | cool |
| 04:57.34 | SportChick | only about 190 to go |
| 04:57.42 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:57.43 | Nidhoggr | some playstation stuff, some dvds, etc. |
| 04:57.48 | SportChick | cool |
| 04:57.49 | SportChick | how old now? |
| 04:57.52 | Nidhoggr | 29 |
| 04:57.54 | SportChick | or as of tomorrow, I mean? |
| 04:57.56 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:57.59 | Nidhoggr | you'd never know it. ;) |
| 04:58.01 | tofu | DTR: src/common/WordFilter.cxx:314 |
| 04:58.05 | trepan | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:58.11 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:58.15 | tofu | ~karma Patlabor221 |
| 04:58.15 | ibot | patlabor221 has karma of 34 |
| 04:58.20 | tofu | jeeesh |
| 04:58.20 | Nidhoggr | hahahahaha |
| 04:58.23 | SportChick | where's the setting in options to make the names blink when they kill you? |
| 04:58.25 | SportChick | on bz |
| 04:58.28 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:58.33 | SportChick | ~learner++ |
| 04:58.37 | Nidhoggr | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:58.39 | SportChick | ~Nidhoggr++ |
| 04:58.51 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:58.58 | DTRemenak | tofu, yes, could be |
| 04:59.17 | SportChick | can anyone answer my question? |
| 04:59.19 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:59.30 | SportChick | weird... |
| 04:59.35 | trepan | options -> gui |
| 04:59.47 | SportChick | it is set to blink, but it isn't doing it |
| 04:59.50 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 04:59.55 | trepan | 1.10.6 doesn't blink |
| 04:59.57 | tofu | I vaguely recall not allocating space and regcomp crashed (as I would have expected) .. not sure |
| 05:00.00 | SportChick | why not? |
| 05:00.05 | SportChick | we LIKE blinking |
| 05:00.07 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:01.37 | SportChick | trepan: is it supposed to blink or was it intentionally left out? |
| 05:02.01 | tofu | DTRemenak.. i think i found it |
| 05:02.16 | DTRemenak | ooh, good :) |
| 05:02.20 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:02.27 | SportChick | ~Nidhoggr++ |
| 05:02.31 | SportChick | ~learner++ |
| 05:02.34 | tofu | getCompiledExpression() returns a pointer to that compiled regular expression pointer |
| 05:02.37 | trepan | SportChick: it was just a small code bug |
| 05:02.52 | trepan | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:02.56 | tofu | If you look at the WordFilter constructor .. |
| 05:02.58 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:03.07 | SportChick | ~karma PatLabor221 |
| 05:03.07 | ibot | patlabor221 has karma of 43 |
| 05:03.09 | SportChick | heh |
| 05:03.10 | tofu | you see that the pointer is stashed into some fix.compiled thing |
| 05:03.19 | SportChick | ~karma learner |
| 05:03.19 | ibot | learner has karma of 21 |
| 05:03.24 | SportChick | ~karma Nidhoggr |
| 05:03.24 | ibot | nidhoggr has karma of 14 |
| 05:03.31 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:03.36 | tofu | that "fix" is inserted into a suffixes array (but that does a copy) |
| 05:03.36 | SportChick | ~Nidhoggr++ |
| 05:03.42 | SportChick | ~learner++ |
| 05:03.45 | DTRemenak | tofu, yes - valgrind suspected those lines |
| 05:03.51 | SportChick | ~trepan++ |
| 05:04.00 | SportChick | if I'm annoying anyone, I'll stop |
| 05:04.04 | DTRemenak | but how are they leaking? |
| 05:04.04 | trepan | SportChick: too bad Tim isn't here, he might speed up this karma kick |
| 05:04.08 | SportChick | ~MrApathyCream++ |
| 05:04.14 | SportChick | yeah, you're right |
| 05:04.19 | trepan | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:04.20 | SportChick | or he might boot me for being annoying |
| 05:04.26 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:04.31 | tofu | I don't quite see how that stl copy knows how to duplicate the regex memory .. but okay |
| 05:04.32 | SportChick | ~mozul++ |
| 05:04.43 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:04.47 | DTRemenak | ah - you mean it's copying the memory, not just the pointer? |
| 05:04.57 | SportChick | ~Nidhoggr++ |
| 05:04.58 | tofu | SportChick, doesn't bother me as long as an occasional learner++ is tossed in ;) |
| 05:04.58 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:05.04 | SportChick | heh |
| 05:05.05 | SportChick | :) |
| 05:05.06 | trepan | tofu: ;) |
| 05:05.14 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:05.18 | SportChick | ~Nidhoggr++ |
| 05:05.19 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:05.24 | SportChick | ~mozul++ |
| 05:05.26 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:05.34 | SportChick | ~learner++ |
| 05:05.37 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:05.43 | SportChick | ~trepan++ |
| 05:05.45 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:05.52 | trepan | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:05.52 | SportChick | ~MrApathyCream++ |
| 05:06.04 | purple_cow | sigh |
| 05:06.04 | tofu | DTRemenak, something must actually copy the regex_t instead of the pointer.. nothing I wrote that I was aware of |
| 05:06.06 | SportChick | he's gonna die |
| 05:06.13 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:06.19 | SportChick | ~Nidhoggr++ |
| 05:06.21 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:06.28 | SportChick | ~mozul++ |
| 05:06.30 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:06.35 | SportChick | ~learner++ |
| 05:06.37 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:06.39 | tofu | okay, now it's a bit much :) |
| 05:06.48 | SportChick | okay |
| 05:06.51 | SportChick | I'll stop for now |
| 05:06.59 | SportChick | I'll come back when no one is here to be annoyed! :) |
| 05:06.59 | DTRemenak | heh, "for now" |
| 05:07.03 | SportChick | thanks for putting up with me |
| 05:07.06 | SportChick | ooo |
| 05:07.11 | SportChick | wait! one more, please? |
| 05:07.12 | trepan | ~karma Patlabor221 |
| 05:07.12 | ibot | patlabor221 has karma of 58 |
| 05:07.16 | SportChick | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 05:07.35 | SportChick | now I'm done |
| 05:07.44 | trepan | 163 to go... for another day |
| 05:07.49 | SportChick | trepan: if you do 2 more he'll have a round number |
| 05:08.11 | DTRemenak | ok, gtg get some sleep now |
| 05:08.11 | tofu | there was supposed to be limits on how far a single person could up the karma.. apparently it's not working right ;) |
| 05:08.25 | trepan | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:08.30 | trepan | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 05:08.40 | SportChick | ~karma Patlabor221 |
| 05:08.40 | ibot | patlabor221 has karma of 60 |
| 05:08.43 | SportChick | :) |
| 05:08.49 | SportChick | ~karma learner |
| 05:08.49 | ibot | learner has karma of 24 |
| 05:08.55 | SportChick | ~karma trepan |
| 05:08.55 | ibot | trepan has karma of 3 |
| 05:09.02 | SportChick | that's IT? |
| 05:09.09 | SportChick | did you start with negative or something?! |
| 05:09.17 | SportChick | ~karma Nidhoggr |
| 05:09.17 | ibot | nidhoggr has karma of 18 |
| 05:09.24 | SportChick | Noodleman, I did more than 3 for you! |
| 05:09.29 | SportChick | no I mean |
| 05:10.04 | SportChick | ~trepan++ |
| 05:10.31 | SportChick | learner and trepan: are there any plans in the works to fix the blinking thing? |
| 05:10.33 | SportChick | ~trepan++ |
| 05:10.56 | SportChick | or do we have to wait for 1.12? |
| 05:10.57 | SportChick | or do we have to wait for 1.12? |
| 05:10.58 | trepan | it works in 1.11.x, and someone might have patched the 1.10.6+ stream |
| 05:10.59 | SportChick | ~trepan++ |
| 05:11.00 | tofu | I'm not aware of any broken blinking thing |
| 05:11.16 | tofu | other than someone complaining about a broken blinking thing |
| 05:11.47 | SportChick | ~trepan++ |
| 05:11.53 | SportChick | ~tofu-- |
| 05:12.01 | SportChick | ooooooooooooo |
| 05:12.03 | SportChick | yuck |
| 05:12.20 | Nidhoggr | someone should merge larsl's shared user file patches into v1_10branch :-P |
| 05:12.35 | Nidhoggr | err patch |
| 05:14.18 | Nidhoggr | the thing is that there is still file sharing issues on 1.10.x which aren't going to be helped by karma/groups/auth |
| 05:14.30 | Nidhoggr | so 1.10.x needs help now with file sharing stuff. |
| 05:14.50 | Nidhoggr | it isn't going to see the benefit of the userbase changes. |
| 05:15.09 | trepan | Nidhoggr: 1.10.x won't, true ... |
| 05:15.11 | Nidhoggr | and since they are optional, it shouldn't hurt merging them. |
| 05:15.48 | tofu | unless it starts burning hard drives, the 1.10.x line is mostly left to rot now |
| 05:16.45 | Nidhoggr | I could just deal with the patches myself... it'd just be cool to not have to worry about it. |
| 05:17.00 | Nidhoggr | I have had some user file issues so I'm using the patches now. |
| 05:17.57 | Pimpinella | i looked at larsl's patch. wouldnt it be better to have a lockfile instead of forcing admins to change the server anytime they want to do bans etc. ? |
| 05:18.01 | tofu | If I knew what you were talking about and with a little bit of time, I would probably do the merge to both branches |
| 05:18.14 | trepan | tofu: do you know if group info will all be pulled from the DB? |
| 05:18.19 | Nidhoggr | pimpi, that'd be ideal, but I'm not sure why he didn't do it that way. |
| 05:18.33 | SportChick | Nidhoggr learner trepan etc: is there a way to reject people on the server who try to join with 1.10.0? |
| 05:18.47 | Nidhoggr | not that I know of. |
| 05:18.52 | trepan | SportChick: i can make you a custom patch |
| 05:18.58 | tofu | trepan, know not I do |
| 05:19.06 | SportChick | will you make it for Nid's servers? that would be great |
| 05:19.18 | SportChick | (if Nid approves, that is) |
| 05:19.22 | trepan | tofu: very yoda'esk, nicely put :) |
| 05:19.55 | Nidhoggr | tofu: his patch makes it so that any config/command line with -master someaddress:port in it will not allow users to /register or change the user files, and points them to the master server. |
| 05:20.05 | Nidhoggr | down side is that you can't /ban on the slave servers. |
| 05:20.07 | tofu | SportChick, is it a problem? Otherwise 1.12 will be here soon enough making any such version blocking mostly useless |
| 05:20.40 | SportChick | well, we still have people joining with 1.10.0 and we don't allow it on the server. So we are constantly having to run clientquery to see who's using what |
| 05:21.38 | Nidhoggr | if trepan makes a patch, I'll add it. |
| 05:21.42 | SportChick | tofu: how long til 1.12? days, weeks, months? |
| 05:21.49 | tofu | yes |
| 05:21.50 | Pimpinella | the client doesnt send version info iirc |
| 05:22.00 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 05:22.33 | Pimpinella | something to add in HEAD |
| 05:22.54 | Pimpinella | tofu, how about years? |
| 05:24.34 | tofu | this discussion came up a long while back.. properly masking arbitrary client versions is not as trivial as it seems to do properly -- 1.10.0's bug(s) were not serious (imo) and are easy enough to let slide until the next major release (and just keep asking people to upgrade) |
| 05:24.49 | tofu | Pimpi, sure .. 0.2 years? |
| 05:25.44 | Nidhoggr | the biggest bug is slot 0 bug, and there's so little .0 out there, that it's not as big of a deal now. |
| 05:27.32 | tofu | it's fine if you guys want to ban for the slot 0 bug .. but as busy as secret is .. it's simply such a low probability .. |
| 05:28.17 | SportChick | there's another reason we don't allow .0 on sp |
| 05:28.37 | SportChick | it doesn't send the message about autopilot being turned on/off...we have an autokick for autopilot, but only if the message is sent to the server |
| 05:28.51 | Nidhoggr | ah, that, too. ;) |
| 05:29.29 | Nidhoggr | mmmm. taylor floodgate makes a good port. |
| 05:30.12 | tofu | a 5-10% chance of getting slot 0, and even less that are 1.10.0 .. that's probably < 1% |
| 05:30.31 | tofu | it would be easy enough for someone to customize a source patch to only ban 1.10.0 for you |
| 05:30.45 | tofu | but to do it "right" would take too much effort, imo |
| 05:32.01 | Nidhoggr | I need to spend time working on getting dragon.org server back up. |
| 05:36.57 | cosmos | sportchick what are you using to kick the annoying autopilot clients? |
| 05:37.29 | Nidhoggr | cosmos, it's an option in newer server. -prohibitBots |
| 05:37.30 | SportChick | a patch that someone wrote...I think it was vicious |
| 05:37.36 | cosmos | i have that |
| 05:37.52 | Nidhoggr | it's part of the v1_10branch now |
| 05:37.54 | orange | cosmos, did you see my /report earlier? |
| 05:38.01 | cosmos | but it still allows autopilot but definately blocks the -solo |
| 05:38.16 | cosmos | orange: yeah what was going on |
| 05:38.18 | orange | someone was resetting flags... only JBdiGriz and I were registered/identified at the time |
| 05:38.34 | orange | and I know it wasn't him or me |
| 05:38.48 | cosmos | i grepped for the flag resets and i saw none |
| 05:39.00 | orange | it happened at least 3 times |
| 05:39.25 | orange | how can these things get in with no record of it in the log... very very strange |
| 05:40.00 | cosmos | i dont know the protocol well enough. i have -d -d -d perhaps its time to go full debug |
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| 05:41.56 | orange | I guess I just cannot imagine anything being in the protocol that would come from the client to cause a flag reset, or to be able to change the lagwarn (like a few days ago) |
| 05:42.27 | orange | if the client wants to do those things, they send messages which are authenticated at the server... why would there need to be anything in the protocol to do it too? |
| 05:43.01 | cosmos | i meant the server protocol for handling such things |
| 05:43.42 | cosmos | like if there were some means they were exploiting to gain admin. because otherwise we can be draconian |
| 05:43.53 | cosmos | remove everyones admin rights and play |
| 05:43.57 | cosmos | and see if it continues |
| 05:44.36 | orange | yeah, but even if they had some bug to get admin rights, the command would still have to come as a 'n' 'm' or '.' message |
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| 05:46.14 | cosmos | what time did it happen |
| 05:46.19 | cosmos | ill go through line by line |
| 05:46.32 | Noodleman_ | i wonder how many people use that cgi:irc thingie |
| 05:46.35 | Noodleman_ | i see it all the time |
| 05:48.02 | cosmos | thats a nifty tool :) |
| 05:48.19 | mebigfatguy | its painful tho |
| 05:48.55 | mebigfatguy | welp, time for pillow |
| 05:51.13 | orange | answered you in the wrong channel cosmos, sorry: |
| 05:51.16 | orange | just before my /report... about 00:29 Eastern |
| 05:51.27 | orange | 21:29 or so pacific |
| 05:54.36 | tofu | yay, found memory leak |
| 05:54.48 | tofu | ~ww |
| 05:54.49 | ibot | Tee hee .. idiot. |
| 05:58.38 | orange | who was working on the record/replay stuff for bzfs? |
| 05:59.36 | orange | I've been reading Harry potter, and I swear I saw the word "wand" instead of "hand" :-) |
| 05:59.52 | trepan | hehe, a bash.org fan |
| 06:00.06 | orange | I didn't say wang :-) |
| 06:00.31 | orange | will the record side of that work on a 1.10.6 server, trepan? |
| 06:01.25 | trepan | the recording is done server side, so it'd have to be mod'ed |
| 06:01.34 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/common/WordFilter.cxx: heh, don't consider calling regfree() .. call regfree() .. (free's the internal private representation of a regex_t). valgrind catches another. |
| 06:01.55 | orange | client side? |
| 06:02.07 | trepan | i also added something to the network protocol to speed up a replay, so right now that is required client side |
| 06:02.29 | trepan | but it could be changed, it's the MsgReplayReset packet type |
| 06:03.04 | trepan | prolly easiest to just wait for 1.12.x ;) |
| 06:03.25 | orange | there are some odd things going on and it'd be nice to be able to capture all the incoming commands on the server side (except maybe the player position ones) |
| 06:04.22 | orange | so not really a full set of replay data, just the non-motion events |
| 06:05.24 | orange | I guess for now I could just jam a whole bunch of debug statements in the switch inside handleCommand |
| 06:07.29 | orange | ah well, some other night when it isn't past 2am already :-) |
| 06:11.12 | cosmos | heh |
| 06:15.41 | purple_cow | bah |
| 06:15.43 | purple_cow | bah bah bag |
| 06:16.04 | purple_cow | "Hum... What about an Unix version ? I and a lot of friends are running BZFlag under Mac OS X and have a few map ideas, but Text editing is a bit boring !" |
| 06:16.14 | purple_cow | why do all the kids think that they can call OSX unix? |
| 06:17.06 | cosmos | heh |
| 06:17.37 | JBdiGriz | because it runs on a unix base? |
| 06:17.59 | cosmos | the unix version should be "text editing" |
| 06:18.04 | cosmos | they must want a windows version |
| 06:18.26 | JBdiGriz | it seems cows don't read well, they want a linux version of bzedit. :) |
| 06:19.39 | cosmos | <reiner--> we have the bzflag game which was developed to show linux superiority in gfx on unix |
| 06:20.38 | JBdiGriz | avoid hitting the keyboard, otherwise it looks like ad9ppawrem a77ub |
| 06:22.45 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 06:27.09 | cosmos | wtf |
| 06:27.14 | cosmos | no GL detected on irix |
| 06:27.17 | cosmos | this is laughable |
| 06:27.37 | Nidhoggr | I had a similar problem earlier on debian. |
| 06:28.06 | cosmos | i see the problem, learner has some typos in his configure for irix hints :) |
| 06:28.11 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 06:28.18 | cosmos | opengl absent on irix is a real trick |
| 06:28.39 | purple_cow | cosmos: not if it was a server install |
| 06:28.49 | cosmos | its on my origin 2k |
| 06:29.05 | purple_cow | origin 2k is a server ;) |
| 06:29.09 | cosmos | yes |
| 06:29.11 | cosmos | and gl is there |
| 06:29.31 | cosmos | and there is no "server install" option when installing irix |
| 06:29.40 | cosmos | you can strip it out |
| 06:29.46 | purple_cow | i wasn't even aware they had a graphics option for those |
| 06:29.48 | cosmos | but...why... |
| 06:30.05 | cosmos | they have an SI you can use |
| 06:30.17 | cosmos | but the opengl headers/libs etc are still there even without it |
| 06:32.16 | purple_cow | cosmos: versions |grep gl_dev |
| 06:33.46 | cosmos | celot 237# versions | grep gl_dev |
| 06:33.46 | cosmos | I gl_dev 04/09/2004 Graphics Library Development System, 6.5.17m |
| 06:33.46 | cosmos | I gl_dev.books 04/09/2004 IRIS InSight Books, 2.2 |
| 06:33.46 | cosmos | I gl_dev.books.OpenGL_PG 04/09/2004 OpenGL Programming Guide |
| 06:33.46 | cosmos | I gl_dev.books.OpenGL_Porting 04/09/2004 OpenGL Porting Guide |
| 06:33.47 | cosmos | I gl_dev.books.OpenGL_RM 04/09/2004 OpenGL Reference Manual |
| 06:33.49 | cosmos | I gl_dev.books.OpenGLonSGI 04/09/2004 OpenGL on Silicon Graphics Systems |
| 06:33.51 | cosmos | I gl_dev.man 04/09/2004 GL Documentation |
| 06:33.53 | cosmos | I gl_dev.man.gldev 04/09/2004 GL Development Manual Pages |
| 06:33.55 | cosmos | I gl_dev.man.relnotes 04/09/2004 GL Development Release Notes |
| 06:33.57 | cosmos | I gl_dev.sw 04/09/2004 GL Software |
| 06:33.59 | cosmos | I gl_dev.sw.gldev 04/09/2004 GL Development Environment |
| 06:34.01 | cosmos | I gl_dev.sw.widget 04/09/2004 OpenGL Widget Development Environment |
| 06:34.03 | cosmos | I gl_dev.sw64 04/09/2004 GL Software 64bit |
| 06:34.05 | cosmos | I gl_dev.sw64.gldev 03/26/2004 64bit GL Development Environment |
| 06:34.07 | cosmos | I gl_dev.sw64.widget 04/09/2004 OpenGL Widget 64bit Development Environment |
| 06:34.09 | cosmos | the gl error was caused by a typo'd compiler option in the install docs :) |
| 06:34.14 | cosmos | now im on to a multicast.cxx issue |
| 06:34.17 | purple_cow | hehe :) |
| 06:34.23 | cosmos | cc-1164 CC: ERROR File = multicast.cxx, Line = 444 |
| 06:34.23 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.23 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.23 | cosmos | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:34.23 | cosmos | 1 error detected in the compilation of "multicast.cxx". |
| 06:37.24 | cosmos | actually i should probably recheckout this src, this could be before learner finished |
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| 06:45.46 | cosmos | whats the 1.10 branch module for cvs again |
| 06:46.48 | purple_cow | v1_10_branch |
| 06:48.52 | cosmos | cvs server: cannot find module `v1_10_branch' - ignored |
| 06:49.05 | cosmos | must be getting late |
| 06:49.08 | purple_cow | the module is just bzflag |
| 06:49.13 | purple_cow | -r v1_10_branch |
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| 11:56.47 | Chestal | grmpf |
| 12:10.28 | SportChick | ~Patlabor221++ |
| 12:12.47 | Chestal | I wonder why people didn't learn to cope with each other in pre-school |
| 12:13.50 | Chestal | the art of de-escalation seems to be a rare one nowadays |
| 12:15.01 | Chestal | well, enough ranting, but this really makes me sick |
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| 12:17.22 | bomber | chess: dont worry be happy! we havnt much time in this world :o) |
| 12:21.40 | Chestal | bomber: yes, and every second that passes brings us closer to death :-) |
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| 12:57.08 | learner | cosmos/purple_cow: it was v1_10branch .. not v1_10_branch |
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