irclog2html for #bzflag on 20040918

`00:04.31`	`amathis`	`hnn`
`00:04.42`	`amathis`	`Patlabor221, what does the Dev-Cpp stuff that lan56 put in do?`
`00:04.59`	`amathis`	`allows you to open bzflag as a dev-cpp project?`
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`00:31.56`	`Patlabor221`	`amathis, it's a build system for building in devC++ on windows`
`00:32.11`	`amathis`	`ah`
`00:32.21`	`amathis`	`so, everytime someone commits new code, does it update?`
`00:32.23`	`amathis`	`or not..`
`00:32.35`	`Patlabor221`	`only if a new file is added`
`00:32.53`	`Patlabor221`	`when a new file is added 5 places have to be updated`
`00:33.08`	`Patlabor221`	`makefile, VC6, VC7.1, devC++, and Xcode`
`00:34.36`	`amathis`	`hrm..`
`00:34.52`	`Patlabor221`	`it's not automatic tho`
`00:35.24`	`amathis`	`I am not doing something right..`
`00:35.29`	`amathis`	`oh..`
`00:35.30`	`amathis`	`it is not that`
`00:35.33`	`Patlabor221`	`stricmp is cooler`
`00:35.42`	`amathis`	`what is the diff?`
`00:35.44`	`amathis`	`nvbm`
`00:35.48`	`amathis`	`I wil RTM`
`00:35.51`	`Patlabor221`	`case`
`00:35.59`	`Patlabor221`	`tho it may be called strcasecmp`
`00:36.01`	`amathis`	`.. invalid conversion from char to const char.`
`00:36.11`	`Patlabor221`	`they are very difrent things`
`00:36.27`	`Patlabor221`	`what is the line of code?`
`00:36.38`	`amathis`	`lemme try something real quick..`
`00:36.49`	`amathis`	`if(strcmp(argu, "c") == 0)`
`00:36.59`	`lan56`	`for which arg?`
`00:37.00`	`Patlabor221`	`what is argu?`
`00:37.16`	`amathis`	`it is int main(char argu)`
`00:37.21`	`amathis`	`but, that is probably not right`
`00:37.35`	`Patlabor221`	`strcmp wants a const char*`
`00:37.36`	`Patlabor221`	`not a char`
`00:37.36`	`lan56`	`hmm, main() accepting one arg?`
`00:37.40`	`amathis`	`ah`
`00:37.41`	`amathis`	`o`
`00:37.42`	`amathis`	`k`
`00:37.45`	`lan56`	`try "c\0"`
`00:37.51`	`Patlabor221`	`you want argv[0]`
`00:37.53`	`Patlabor221`	`or something`
`00:38.05`	`Patlabor221`	`if argu is a char, that's your issue`
`00:38.11`	`Patlabor221`	`can't cast char to const char*`
`00:38.22`	`amathis`	`sweet`
`00:38.36`	`Patlabor221`	`you know what a pointer is right?`
`00:39.03`	`lan56`	`to parse command line, argc and argv are essential, try "int main(int argc, char* argv[])", just a side note`
`00:39.28`	`Patlabor221`	`lan56, what if you don't have them? :)`
`00:39.33`	`amathis`	`yes.`
`00:39.34`	`Patlabor221`	`uchar* commandline :)`
`00:40.12`	`lan56`	`patlabor221: but main() can accept those two args`
`00:40.29`	`Patlabor221`	`what about when you don't have a main?`
`00:40.35`	`amathis`	`wtf..`
`00:40.39`	`Patlabor221`	`and actualy main can do 3`
`00:40.42`	`amathis`	`nvm..`
`00:40.43`	`amathis`	`>_<`
`00:40.54`	`lan56`	`you can have a program without main()?`
`00:41.07`	`lan56`	`wait, are we talking about windows programming, or ANSI?`
`00:41.21`	`Patlabor221`	`sure you can`
`00:41.27`	`Patlabor221`	`just not a console app`
`00:41.42`	`amathis`	`int main(int argc, char* argv[])`
`00:41.42`	`amathis`	`{`
`00:41.42`	`amathis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`00:41.55`	`Patlabor221`	`argv is an araay`
`00:41.56`	`lan56`	`ahh, I was thinking about ANSI stuff, non console gets into system stuff`
`00:41.58`	`amathis`	`what do you see first off taht is wrong witht that?`
`00:42.00`	`Patlabor221`	`what argv do you want?`
`00:42.09`	`Patlabor221`	`argv is waht's wrong`
`00:42.10`	`amathis`	`omg, I feel stupid now..`
`00:42.14`	`amathis`	`yeah..`
`00:42.14`	`Patlabor221`	`argv is an aray of pointers`
`00:42.17`	`Patlabor221`	`not a string`
`00:42.34`	`lan56`	`amathis: we all stunk at this stuff at one point, nothing to feel stupid about`
`00:42.52`	`amathis`	`yeah`
`00:43.15`	`amathis`	`lan56, well, I can do the basics, I am just at the chapter that covers this,a`
`00:43.23`	`Patlabor221`	`int main( int argc[ , char argv[ ] [, char envp[ ] ] ] );`
`00:43.47`	`amathis`	`ok..`
`00:43.48`	`tea\|tree_`	`nite nite !`
`00:44.00`	`Patlabor221`	`there is also wmain`
`00:44.06`	`Patlabor221`	`int wmain( int argc[ , wchar_t argv[ ] [, wchar_t envp[ ] ] ] );`
`00:44.17`	`amathis`	`Patlabor221, ok, I did that strcmp to make it do a certain thing if it had the option of 'c'..`
`00:44.19`	`Patlabor221`	`cus char* don't cut it in japan`
`00:44.32`	`amathis`	`but, if I execute foo.exe c, it does not do it..`
`00:44.33`	`Patlabor221`	`what argv did you look at?`
`00:44.51`	`Patlabor221`	`0?`
`00:44.53`	`amathis`	`yes`
`00:44.56`	`amathis`	`argv[0]`
`00:45.01`	`Patlabor221`	`I think 0 is the app name`
`00:45.06`	`Patlabor221`	`you shoudl print them all`
`00:45.10`	`Patlabor221`	`see what it gives you`
`00:45.26`	`Patlabor221`	`but I think 0 is the exe that is being run`
`00:45.33`	`amathis`	`ok`
`00:45.53`	`amathis`	`sweet!`
`00:45.56`	`amathis`	`now it works :)`
`00:46.10`	`Patlabor221`	`but that code will work only if the FIRST arg is C`
`00:46.13`	`Patlabor221`	`not any arg`
`00:46.22`	`amathis`	`Patlabor221, hrm..`
`00:46.38`	`Patlabor221`	`you need a loop`
`00:46.53`	`amathis`	`a loop? why a loop..`
`00:46.56`	`Patlabor221`	`and if any args can have spaces, then you need a parser too`
`00:47.01`	`Patlabor221`	`amathis, cus there could be N args`
`00:47.05`	`amathis`	`*picrture`
`00:47.13`	`Patlabor221`	`foo.exe c d b w a yourmama`
`00:47.20`	`Patlabor221`	`how many args?`
`00:47.26`	`amathis`	`right now only one.`
`00:47.28`	`amathis`	`all it does is this..`
`00:47.48`	`amathis`	`the option of 'c' will convert F to C (temp)`
`00:47.50`	`amathis`	`so..`
`00:47.59`	`Patlabor221`	`how many options are there?`
`00:47.59`	`amathis`	`convert.exe c 48`
`00:48.19`	`Patlabor221`	`so I can't type convert.exe 48 c`
`00:48.26`	`amathis`	`right`
`00:52.47`	`fiberchunks`	`why?`
`00:53.28`	`amathis`	`because, I wake up early and do chores, and then I go off and live a different life.`
`00:53.46`	`fiberchunks`	`different lives are sometimes the best lives`
`00:53.51`	`amathis`	`haha`
`00:53.59`	`amathis`	`not in this case ^_^`
`00:54.24`	`amathis`	`and, I like school`
`00:54.35`	`amathis`	`no, I love school.`
`01:09.53`	`tea\|tree_`	`good night ;)`
`01:10.03`	`amathis`	`good night.`
`01:10.04`	`lan56`	`gnight 'tree :)`
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`01:33.23`	`shorty114`	`ah good to be back online`
`01:33.46`	`lan56`	`lost service from your ISP?`
`01:37.03`	`shorty114`	`kinda...`
`01:37.06`	`shorty114`	`reason was my mom :)`
`01:37.23`	`shorty114`	`i had a big project in school and she kept me offline until i finished it`
`01:38.03`	`lan56`	`it's friday`
`01:38.27`	`shorty114`	`yes`
`01:38.30`	`shorty114`	`was due today`
`01:38.34`	`lan56`	`ahh`
`01:38.38`	`shorty114`	`1 week`
`01:38.52`	`shorty114`	`i was playing bz just now :)`
`01:38.58`	`shorty114`	`felt good to be back`
`01:39.06`	`lan56`	`understandable`
`01:39.22`	`shorty114`	`:)`
`01:40.07`	`shorty114`	`grrr split`
`01:40.28`	`lan56`	`only one victim at least :)`
`01:40.36`	`shorty114`	`look in #php`
`01:40.37`	`shorty114`	`:)`
`01:40.50`	`shorty114`	`<--mazzanet has quit (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)`
`01:40.50`	`shorty114`	`<--Mr has quit (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)`
`01:40.50`	`shorty114`	`<--Shrike\|work has quit (zelazny.freenode.net irc.freenode.net)`
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`01:40.56`	`shorty114`	`and so on for about 14 lines :)`
`01:41.13`	`shorty114`	`lan: already happened :)`
`01:41.23`	`lan56`	`I figured that out :)`
`01:41.35`	`shorty114`	`i would paste the whole thing, but i don't want the wrath of patlabor on me`
`01:41.44`	`amathis`	`hmm`
`01:41.47`	`lan56`	`pat's not here`
`01:41.52`	`lan56`	`hence, it is so quiet :)`
`01:42.01`	`shorty114`	`lan: he has ways...`
`01:42.47`	`lan56`	`patlabor221 is a bit of a pain to deal with at times, but he sure does provide a lot of company, more of an active user`
`01:42.57`	`shorty114`	`yes i must agree`
`01:43.11`	`lan56`	`some like yoyox, I have yet to see speak`
`01:44.07`	`amathis`	`shorty114, well, if you didn't annoy him, it would not be that way`
`01:44.10`	`amathis`	`cough`
`01:44.23`	`lan56`	`sneeze`
`01:48.14`	`lan56`	`thank you :)`
`01:48.19`	`shorty114`	`bless you :)`
`01:48.29`	`lan56`	`ty again :)`
`01:48.56`	`shorty114`	`13* shorty114: np`
`01:49.02`	`shorty114`	`oops hit damn color`
`01:49.03`	`shorty114`	`sry`
`01:49.46`	`shorty114`	`lan56: i have a quick swatch`
`01:49.58`	`lan56`	`the watch brand?`
`01:50.28`	`shorty114`	`no, the multicolored boxes of colors`
`01:51.12`	`lan56`	`well, the xchat for mac is very different than windows, and I feel that it is unfair like that`
`01:51.27`	`shorty114`	`not that different...`
`01:51.29`	`shorty114`	`looks way better`
`01:51.46`	`lan56`	`windows is just a plain OS in general`
`01:53.26`	`shorty114`	`http://shorty114.kicks-ass.net/sshot.tiff`
`01:53.41`	`amathis`	`shorty114, don't curse in here..`
`01:53.46`	`amathis`	`I don't see the point..`
`01:54.03`	`lan56`	`huh?`
`01:54.17`	`lan56`	`oh`
`01:54.40`	`shorty114`	`i gotta find a decent sshot util for osx`
`01:54.49`	`shorty114`	`Grab is total crap`
`01:55.26`	`shorty114`	`or i don't know how to use it ;)`
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`02:01.23`	`shorty114`	`well...i found a good one, cept it's shareware :(`
`02:01.48`	`lan56`	`shareware is so 1995ish`
`02:02.21`	`shorty114`	`yes i must agree`
`02:02.27`	`shorty114`	`11.95...ripoff`
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`02:15.05`	`shorty114`	`hi aribeth`
`02:15.09`	`shorty114`	`hi dirtytroll`
`02:15.24`	`Aribeth`	`hi`
`02:15.32`	`Aribeth`	`whats up?`
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`02:33.05`	`SportChick`	`Nidhoggr: what port`
`02:33.16`	`SportChick`	`~seen Patlabor221`
`02:33.18`	`ibot`	`patlabor221 <~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 1h 44m 59s ago, saying: 'so I can't type convert.exe 48 c'.`
`02:33.59`	`SportChick`	`does anyone here know about agp aperture size for an nvidia gforce II mx100 video card?`
`02:34.04`	`Nidhoggr`	`ack... let me start it.`
`02:34.10`	`Nidhoggr`	`I still have half an hour!`
`02:34.12`	`Nidhoggr`	`;)`
`02:34.18`	`SportChick`	`Noodleman, you have 25 minutes`
`02:34.21`	`SportChick`	`nno`
`02:34.31`	`SportChick`	`anyway, Nid, can you help with the video card question?`
`02:34.32`	`Nidhoggr`	`hahahaha`
`02:34.39`	`Noodleman`	`SportChick: till what? :-)`
`02:34.45`	`fiberchunks`	`SportChick, how much vid ram on the card?`
`02:34.48`	`SportChick`	`Noodleman, ignor me`
`02:34.55`	`Nidhoggr`	`not sure. my guess would be 64mb, but I might be wrong.`
`02:35.08`	`Noodleman`	`/ignore SportChick! all`
`02:35.11`	`Nidhoggr`	`heh`
`02:35.12`	`SportChick`	`fiberchunks, we aren't sure - can choose from 64 or 256`
`02:35.12`	`fiberchunks`	`yeah, 2x vid ram is what I've always used, and it works just fine`
`02:35.21`	`fiberchunks`	`go with 64 then`
`02:35.48`	`SportChick`	`we are having a strange problem, I'll let you know if that solves it...thanks`
`02:35.57`	`fiberchunks`	`if it seems hokey, try out 256 :)`
`02:36.20`	`fiberchunks`	`it's all black magic anyway, didn't you get the memo? :D`
`02:36.34`	`SportChick`	`black magic is the key word - that's what keeps coming up on the monitor`
`02:36.42`	`fiberchunks`	`heh`
`02:38.11`	`fiberchunks`	`'one eyed, one horned, flyin' purple people eater' :)`
`02:39.22`	`SportChick`	`Nid: ready yet?`
`02:40.20`	`SportChick`	`for some reason, the computer boots and as it is loading the last couple of programs, the screen goes black`
`02:40.29`	`SportChick`	`how do you boot windows in safe mode? is it f4?`
`02:40.56`	`SportChick`	`Fiberchunks?`
`02:40.58`	`SportChick`	`Nidhoggr?`
`02:41.02`	`SportChick`	`Noodleman?`
`02:41.05`	`SportChick`	`anyone?`
`02:41.08`	`seisan`	`hi`
`02:41.10`	`fiberchunks`	`yas`
`02:41.16`	`SportChick`	`how do you boot windows in safe mode? is it f4?`
`02:41.22`	`SportChick`	`windows 98se`
`02:41.26`	`Noodleman`	`oink?`
`02:41.26`	`fiberchunks`	`mmmm, been a long time -- perhaps f8`
`02:41.29`	`seisan`	`f8`
`02:41.30`	`Noodleman`	`SportChick: F8`
`02:41.35`	`Noodleman`	`or hold down CTRL`
`02:41.37`	`seisan`	`hi Noodleman`
`02:41.37`	`fiberchunks`	`but it requires good timing, iirc`
`02:41.47`	`SportChick`	`ty Noodleman, chunky and seisan`
`02:41.48`	`Noodleman`	`hey seisan`
`02:41.52`	`fiberchunks`	`np`
`02:41.53`	`seisan`	`hows it going`
`02:42.01`	`Noodleman`	`going good`
`02:42.07`	`Noodleman`	`how's it shakin?`
`02:42.42`	`SportChick`	`I'm doing fine, but hubby's frustrated`
`02:43.03`	`SportChick`	`is there a way to prevent allt he programs that generally start up when you boot from doing so?`
`02:43.08`	`Nidhoggr`	`should be up.`
`02:43.14`	`Nidhoggr`	`1 gm 1 L 1 sw`
`02:43.18`	`Nidhoggr`	`100 superflags.`
`02:43.27`	`SportChick`	`wow`
`02:43.29`	`shorty114`	`yes it's f8`
`02:44.33`	`Noodleman`	`SportChick: when you're in windows, click start, then run, then type msconfig`
`02:44.48`	`Noodleman`	`click the startup tab, then uncheck all the unnecessary stuff`
`02:44.55`	`SportChick`	`Noodleman, that only works if he can GET that far`
`02:45.03`	`Noodleman`	`well, yeah :-)`
`02:45.12`	`Noodleman`	`if you're in safe mode, you should be able to do that`
`02:45.48`	`SportChick`	`he missed the timing on safe mode - now he's looking at it - it did boot but we're not sure how long the video will last`
`02:47.24`	`Noodleman`	`what i do is during POST, i just start tapping F8`
`02:47.39`	`Noodleman`	`you can also hold down CTRL while it boots`
`02:47.44`	`Noodleman`	`that usually gets you in`
`02:51.06`	`fiberchunks`	`course, if you have a boot disk, you can bypass the whole F8 voodoo, by inserting that -- I think it gives you the option to start from Harddisk in safe mode.`
`02:51.23`	`fiberchunks`	`disk being floppy or cd`
`02:51.25`	`fiberchunks`	`:)`
`02:52.14`	`MeBigFatGuy`	`wow noodle, i didn't even know about that`
`02:52.23`	`MeBigFatGuy`	`msconfig that is`
`03:04.39`	`fiberchunks`	`arggggghhhh, damned hiccups`
`03:05.30`	`amathis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:05.37`	`amathis`	`he is like.. "SPEAK ENGLISH!"`
`03:05.38`	`shorty114`	`heh`
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