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| 00:19.57 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzadmin/ (BZAdminClient.cxx CursesMenu.cxx CursesUI.cxx PlayerInfo.h): read player status (Registered/Identified/Admin) from MsgAdminInfo, store it, display it in the curses player list (hopefully; compiled, not tested). warn when kicking/banning admins. |
| 00:22.07 | brlcad | Mmm.. MsgAdminInfo gets sent to whom? |
| 00:22.29 | brlcad | only admins? or all players? |
| 00:26.28 | Nidhoggr | I thought it was admins only. |
| 00:26.39 | Nidhoggr | in admin group or has adminmessages permission |
| 00:26.44 | blast007 | brlcad: from what I'm seeing in bzfs.cxx, it might only get sent to players with the PLAYERLIST permission |
| 00:26.55 | blast007 | get's sent in sendIPUpdate(...) |
| 00:31.42 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: I believe that's a separate packet, not the same as the admin chat packets |
| 00:32.03 | brlcad | blast007: thx, sounds about right |
| 00:32.18 | brlcad | s/right/expected/ |
| 00:32.53 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:32.53 | DTRemenak | yeah, blast007 is right |
| 00:34.04 | DTRemenak | if whoever's using bzadmin doesn't have playerlist rights, it should just display (Anon) for everyone |
| 00:34.56 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 00:35.17 | brlcad | Hrm.. but the packet is still sent? |
| 00:38.42 | blast007 | / send to who? |
| 00:38.45 | blast007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.55 | blast007 | er, that was a // ;) |
| 00:39.20 | blast007 | so it check how has it, and only sends it to them |
| 00:40.11 | blast007 | who* |
| 00:41.07 | DTRemenak | brlcad: the packet is only sent to people with playerlist rights. bzadmin will display (Anon) if it has no information, which would be the case if it did not receive the packet. |
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| 00:44.59 | brlcad | DTRemenak: a mutual friend wonders if you might consider testing uncommenting the glDelete's in bzfgl.h |
| 00:45.10 | brlcad | see if the texture manager fix fixed things for you |
| 00:46.21 | DTRemenak | ok - which fix? the one that was committed a couple days ago? |
| 00:46.27 | brlcad | yeah |
| 00:46.31 | DTRemenak | ok |
| 00:47.36 | brlcad | I get malloc/free errors after trying to reinitialize the context, so I expect something else is still awry |
| 00:48.49 | DTRemenak | I don't see any glDelete's in bzfgl.h |
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| 00:58.17 | DTRemenak | brlcad: what glDelete's am I supposed to uncomment? |
| 00:58.27 | brlcad | there's a block at the bottom |
| 00:58.34 | brlcad | #if 0 it |
| 00:58.37 | DTRemenak | they're not commented |
| 00:58.42 | DTRemenak | oh, ok. |
| 00:58.44 | brlcad | "The following are temporary..." |
| 00:58.46 | DTRemenak | comment, not uncomment |
| 00:59.00 | brlcad | it's creating a macro to bypass what they should really do |
| 00:59.22 | brlcad | ok, fine :P .. not uncomment.. unmacro :) |
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| 01:10.44 | BigE | Okay... so, I run Gentoo, installed bzFlag, but whenever I run bzFlag, it acts completely sluggish after a few minutes and I'm assuming causes a kernel panic when I go to exit, because my keyboard lights are flashing and everything is completely locked up... I have no idea what's causing it. |
| 01:11.32 | BigE | I know it isn't the graphics card/module because glxgears gets over 9000FPS and other opengl games work just fine... |
| 01:13.25 | Nidhoggr | nvidia card and amd processor? |
| 01:13.34 | BigE | Heh, yes. |
| 01:14.17 | Nidhoggr | put append="mem=nopentium" in /etc/lilo.conf and run lilo then reboot. |
| 01:14.26 | DTRemenak | learner: no graphical problems with that non-def'ed |
| 01:14.33 | BigE | err... I use grub. |
| 01:14.39 | DTRemenak | looks normalish |
| 01:14.47 | DTRemenak | even through alt-tabs etc |
| 01:14.54 | Nidhoggr | well, do whatever appendy stuff through grub then. |
| 01:14.55 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 01:15.04 | Nidhoggr | not too familiar with grub |
| 01:15.09 | BigE | I have no idea how to do that... but I'll look into it if that's the fix... |
| 01:15.16 | sussudio | grand useless booter |
| 01:15.17 | Nidhoggr | that's the fix. |
| 01:17.13 | BigE | Ah, just add mem=nopentium to the kernel line, nice. |
| 01:18.41 | guru | does bzflag support multiple sounds? |
| 01:18.53 | guru | e.g., can i play something in xmms and play bzflag with sounds too? |
| 01:19.00 | Nidhoggr | yes |
| 01:19.04 | Nidhoggr | I do it all the time. |
| 01:19.11 | guru | ok i must not have it set up correctly then |
| 01:19.27 | Nidhoggr | it works on mac and my windows pac |
| 01:19.31 | Nidhoggr | err pc |
| 01:19.42 | guru | dsp0.0 |
| 01:19.42 | guru | dsp0.1 |
| 01:19.42 | guru | dsp0.2 |
| 01:19.42 | guru | dsp0.3 |
| 01:19.42 | guru | dsp0.4 |
| 01:19.44 | guru | dsp0.5 |
| 01:19.46 | guru | dspW0.0 |
| 01:19.49 | guru | dspW0.1 |
| 01:19.51 | guru | dspW0.2 |
| 01:19.54 | guru | dspW0.3 |
| 01:19.56 | guru | dspW0.4 |
| 01:19.59 | guru | dspW0.5 |
| 01:20.02 | guru | dspr0.0 |
| 01:20.04 | guru | shit |
| 01:20.06 | Nidhoggr | :/ |
| 01:20.07 | guru | that was only supposed to be 4 lines |
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| 01:23.20 | guru | i wonder why bzflag won't play any sounds then when i'm listening to music with xmms |
| 01:23.31 | guru | that's pretty odd |
| 01:23.37 | Nidhoggr | maybe a linux thing? |
| 01:23.45 | guru | possibly |
| 01:24.00 | guru | but i have /dev/dsp0.0 - .5 |
| 01:24.12 | guru | i've set the appropriate sysctl obviously |
| 01:24.43 | guru | what's funny is i can be listening to xmms and gaim still plays sound events |
| 01:25.48 | BigE | Nidhoggr: No joy... still locked up. |
| 01:26.05 | guru | BigE: is it back to locking up again? |
| 01:26.23 | Nidhoggr | well, that's helped a number of others... I personally don't have any other suggestions. |
| 01:27.22 | BigE | Hmm... |
| 01:27.35 | BigE | I'll make sure that's the right syntax I guess |
| 01:27.43 | blast007 | guru: http://bzbb.bzflag.org/viewtopic.php?t=608&highlight=dsp |
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| 01:42.58 | PrezKennedy | guru, its your sound system |
| 01:43.05 | PrezKennedy | only one can have control at a time |
| 01:43.19 | PrezKennedy | sometimes doing full duplexing fixes that... |
| 01:45.00 | guru | PrezKennedy: how would i do that? |
| 01:45.10 | guru | i'm a n00b when it comes to sound |
| 01:45.13 | PrezKennedy | well... do you know which one you use? |
| 01:45.20 | PrezKennedy | ALSA, OSS, etc |
| 01:45.25 | guru | oss |
| 01:45.34 | PrezKennedy | do you have ALSA installed? |
| 01:45.37 | guru | no |
| 01:45.48 | PrezKennedy | you might want to give it a shot |
| 01:46.04 | guru | so there is no way with oss? |
| 01:46.23 | PrezKennedy | there might be a way, i just dont happen to know it |
| 01:46.31 | PrezKennedy | ive had better experiences with ALSA anyways |
| 01:46.52 | guru | ok, i'll go look through the handbook some more |
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| 02:16.41 | patlabor221 | is there a better OSX IRC client then xchat? |
| 02:21.15 | patlabor221 | gaim |
| 02:21.20 | JBdiGriz | I'm using x-chat Aqua, rather than straight xchat |
| 02:21.34 | patlabor221 | as am I |
| 02:21.42 | patlabor221 | its clunky |
| 02:22.02 | JBdiGriz | I've tried a couple of the others, and irc clients in general are clunky. What do you want in a client? |
| 02:22.25 | patlabor221 | beautifull slickness |
| 02:22.28 | patlabor221 | like trillian |
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| 02:23.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 02:23.16 | JBdiGriz | Where did he go? Wasn't there a patlabor here a second ago? |
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| 02:25.25 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 02:25.45 | patlabor221 | and maybe something a bit more stable |
| 02:25.59 | patlabor221 | the little X on the tabs is stupid |
| 02:26.07 | JBdiGriz | Conversation was slick, but it didn't allow me access to all of irc's capabilities |
| 02:26.29 | patlabor221 | like? |
| 02:26.47 | JBdiGriz | any command that I could type wasn't passed through |
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| 02:27.55 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TyroneFHornigh] by ChanServ |
| 02:28.14 | TyroneFHornigh | It's looking a bit slicker these days |
| 02:30.53 | TyroneFHornigh | It's still not passing all commands through when they start with a / |
| 02:31.44 | JBdiGriz | http://homepage.mac.com/philrobin/conversation/ |
| 02:35.29 | patlabor221 | and one more silly mac question |
| 02:35.46 | patlabor221 | is there a way to make it automaticly mount a network share everytime it starts up? |
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| 02:39.26 | PatlaborMac | well it's intersting |
| 02:39.36 | PatlaborMac | but I see what you mean by less features |
| 02:40.06 | PatlaborMac | it's hella purdy tho |
| 02:40.26 | *** part/#bzflag patlabor221 (~jeffm@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 02:42.21 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10db/bzfls.php: alternateServers, remove UNKNOWN |
| 02:44.37 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o Patlabor221] by ChanServ |
| 02:47.36 | Patlabor221 | learner, I got sdl installed |
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| 03:25.02 | BZFlag8702 | hello |
| 03:25.10 | Patlabor221 | hello |
| 03:25.10 | amathis | Hello. |
| 03:25.21 | sussudio | badgerbadgerbadger |
| 03:25.32 | amathis | mushroom mushroom! |
| 03:25.38 | blast007 | hello |
| 03:25.51 | BZFlag8702 | is this the bzflag channel? |
| 03:25.56 | sussudio | BZFlag8702 = nidhogg? |
| 03:26.06 | Patlabor221 | yes it is |
| 03:26.32 | Patlabor221 | thats why it's name d #bzflag |
| 03:26.34 | sussudio | * Dns resolved dragon.org to 69.28.129.165 |
| 03:27.18 | Patlabor221 | sussudio you realy thing he uses IRC from his webserver? |
| 03:27.21 | Patlabor221 | it's CGI |
| 03:27.26 | amathis | >D |
| 03:27.27 | BZFlag8702 | how do i talk to the bot |
| 03:27.29 | sussudio | it is? |
| 03:27.36 | amathis | sussudio~ hence the www-data |
| 03:27.43 | Patlabor221 | bots are in #botpak |
| 03:27.47 | Patlabor221 | #botpark |
| 03:28.14 | amathis | sussudio~ don't take anger out on such a noble creature o.0 |
| 03:28.26 | Patlabor221 | ohh he does that all the time |
| 03:28.31 | sussudio | it's not noble. i went from 1.0PR to 1.0 and it disabled half my plugins :-| |
| 03:28.34 | BZFlag8702 | where is that? |
| 03:28.50 | amathis | BZFlag8702~ #botpark?? |
| 03:28.51 | Patlabor221 | it's another channel |
| 03:28.59 | Patlabor221 | you would need a difrent IRC client to get to it |
| 03:29.02 | Patlabor221 | what did you need the bot for? |
| 03:29.11 | BZFlag8702 | server test thingy |
| 03:29.26 | amathis | do digress |
| 03:29.41 | Patlabor221 | just type /msg ibot bzfquery yourserver.whatever |
| 03:29.51 | amathis | ohh |
| 03:29.54 | amathis | bzflag server |
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| 03:34.24 | BZFlag8702 | i did it but how long does it take |
| 03:34.46 | Patlabor221 | not that long |
| 03:34.58 | BZFlag8702 | well it hasn't responded yet |
| 03:35.09 | BZFlag8702 | should it have? |
| 03:35.09 | Patlabor221 | if it takes a long time then ether the command or domain is wrong |
| 03:35.14 | Patlabor221 | or the server can not be found |
| 03:36.47 | TimRiker | ~nslookup 209.6.212.83 |
| 03:37.37 | TimRiker | BZFlag8702: as ibot "ibot: bzfquuery <yourip>:<yourport>" |
| 03:37.41 | TimRiker | er ask. |
| 03:37.59 | Patlabor221 | I allways forget the l |
| 03:38.18 | learner | Patlabor221, coo |
| 03:38.33 | TimRiker | between our typos, he'll never get it right. |
| 03:39.25 | TimRiker | BZFlag8702: (er Nate?) what is the IP of your server? and why didn't you change the BZFlagxxxx as requested? |
| 03:39.38 | BZFlag8702 | huh |
| 03:39.58 | TimRiker | huh is a funny looking ip address. |
| 03:40.05 | learner | heh |
| 03:40.07 | TimRiker | ~insult huh |
| 03:40.13 | Patlabor221 | what is the server name in question? |
| 03:40.32 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery 209.6.212.83:5154 |
| 03:40.49 | TimRiker | ~status |
| 03:40.50 | ibot | Since Mon Nov 8 21:49:49 2004, there have been 23 modifications, 132 questions, 0 dunnos, 0 morons and 154 commands. I have been awake for 1d 5h 51m this session, and currently reference 107504 factoids. I'm using about 16296 kB of memory. With 1 active fork. Process time user/system 1543.07/184.01 child 173.69/15.96 |
| 03:41.08 | BZFlag8702 | ~bzfquery 209.6.212.83:5154 |
| 03:41.13 | TimRiker | BZFlag8702: assuming that is the IP, it looks like you are firewalled. |
| 03:41.27 | BZFlag8702 | most likely |
| 03:42.40 | TimRiker | and DROPping instead of REJECTing |
| 03:43.03 | BZFlag8702 | forget it |
| 03:43.03 | guu | Okay, BZFlag8702. |
| 03:43.11 | TimRiker | forget what? |
| 03:43.12 | guu | I hear ya! |
| 03:43.12 | BZFlag8702 | thanks for the help |
| 03:43.18 | TimRiker | BZFlag8702: just fix your fw |
| 03:43.27 | BZFlag8702 | alright |
| 03:43.32 | learner | DTRemenak, any luck? |
| 03:43.32 | BZFlag8702 | i do it later |
| 03:43.35 | TimRiker | k |
| 03:43.35 | Patlabor221 | learner is that why it laughed? |
| 03:43.48 | TimRiker | heh |
| 03:44.21 | learner | Patlabor221: probably :) |
| 03:44.24 | DTRemenak | <5:15 PM - DTRemenak>learner: no graphical problems with that non-def'ed |
| 03:44.38 | *** part/#bzflag BZFlag8702 (www-data@69.28.129.166) |
| 03:44.42 | learner | DTRemenak, did you try minimizing? |
| 03:44.57 | learner | ~seen brlcad |
| 03:44.59 | ibot | brlcad <~brlcad@bz.bzflag.bz> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2h 45m 37s ago, saying: 'ok, fine :P .. not uncomment.. unmacro :)'. |
| 03:45.02 | DTRemenak | yeah, my next comment was about "even through alt-tabs" or some such |
| 03:45.21 | learner | ahh, coolie then |
| 03:45.25 | DTRemenak | very much so |
| 03:45.39 | learner | sounds like the problem, however mysterious has been fixed .. or you didn't rebuild :) |
| 03:46.10 | learner | i'll give it a try then too.. see if the malloc problems go away |
| 03:46.14 | Patlabor221 | I tried to rebuild |
| 03:46.17 | Patlabor221 | it failed |
| 03:46.33 | learner | i'm looking at the mac too .. |
| 03:46.41 | learner | i assume you mean the asm? |
| 03:46.44 | Patlabor221 | ether that or your not talking to me :) |
| 03:46.53 | learner | I wasn't :) |
| 03:46.56 | learner | but now am :) |
| 03:47.04 | Patlabor221 | sorry was playing eq2 |
| 03:47.28 | learner | aha.. found the fink problem |
| 03:47.43 | learner | their build does not like your volume named with a space in it |
| 03:48.03 | Patlabor221 | oh |
| 03:48.08 | Patlabor221 | I will rename it then |
| 03:48.08 | learner | could/would you rename that to OSX_10.2 or something |
| 03:48.23 | Patlabor221 | done |
| 03:48.30 | Patlabor221 | just took out the spaces |
| 03:48.32 | learner | silly sdl or libtool folks |
| 03:51.05 | learner | ~seen orchid |
| 03:51.09 | ibot | orchid <orchid@orchid.user> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2d 1h 33m 20s ago, saying: ':)'. |
| 03:51.37 | learner | eh.. 2d .. that's not right |
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| 04:02.38 | patlabor221 | ok that app sucked |
| 04:03.06 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/ (5 files in 2 dirs): no login menu if no kerberos |
| 04:16.47 | learner | ahh.. it was actually a combination of the space in the volume name and the fact that install was pointed to a non-root partition |
| 04:17.00 | learner | otherwise the space would have been fine too |
| 04:18.21 | patlabor221 | well I can keep em non spaced |
| 04:18.28 | patlabor221 | it's just that the other drive has more room |
| 04:18.40 | patlabor221 | I'll have a nice 18 gig scsi drive in it tomorow |
| 04:19.47 | JBdiGriz | fink, bleah |
| 04:19.53 | *** part/#bzflag sussudio (suss@sussudio.user) |
| 04:19.54 | learner | heh |
| 04:21.38 | learner | egads, TimRiker .. one would think you're getting into the release festivities too! :) |
| 04:21.56 | TimRiker | learner: =) |
| 04:22.51 | learner | the major bugs are starting to settle.. this weekend/holiday is probably due for some heavy public testing |
| 04:27.36 | learner | patlabor221, I'd imagine you'll take an interest in the /Applications/Utilities/Activity Monitor application, if you've not seen it yet |
| 04:28.27 | learner | patlabor221, personally, I nix the window and set the icon to CPU History (on menu, Monitor -> Dock Icon -> Show CPU History |
| 04:29.17 | learner | so you can see why it's not responding whilst I hammer away at it |
| 04:29.19 | patlabor221 | keen |
| 04:30.21 | learner | Monitors -> Show Activity Monitor for more details |
| 04:30.41 | patlabor221 | killing goblins |
| 04:30.43 | patlabor221 | 1 sec |
| 04:30.48 | learner | hah |
| 04:31.02 | learner | so did you do the 12:01? :) |
| 04:31.11 | patlabor221 | for halo? |
| 04:31.13 | patlabor221 | ohh god no |
| 04:31.17 | learner | heh |
| 04:31.24 | patlabor221 | we went at luch |
| 04:31.27 | patlabor221 | got halo2 and eq2 |
| 04:31.32 | learner | such restraint |
| 04:31.49 | patlabor221 | not like I could play it |
| 04:31.53 | patlabor221 | had work |
| 04:32.17 | patlabor221 | played it a bit when I got home |
| 04:32.59 | patlabor221 | had some good lines |
| 04:33.06 | patlabor221 | "permision to leave the station sir?" |
| 04:33.09 | patlabor221 | "why?" |
| 04:33.23 | patlabor221 | "to give the covenant their bomb back sir" |
| 04:33.31 | patlabor221 | "permision granted son." |
| 04:33.59 | learner | :) |
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| 04:35.44 | learner | woo hoo.. MeBigFatGuy |
| 04:35.52 | learner | how goes it horsieman? |
| 04:36.01 | MeBigFatGuy | pretty dang good |
| 04:36.09 | learner | great :) |
| 04:37.16 | learner | question, MeBigFatGuy .. horizontal teles.. they stalled or you still working on them or they done? .. :) |
| 04:37.44 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 04:37.48 | MeBigFatGuy | not done |
| 04:37.57 | MeBigFatGuy | have to do crossing plane stuff |
| 04:38.00 | MeBigFatGuy | for z = c |
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| 05:02.18 | learner | MeBigFatGuy: good to know :) .. it's pretty close, isn't it? |
| 05:02.29 | learner | is plane crossing all that's left? |
| 05:02.33 | MeBigFatGuy | i think so |
| 05:02.37 | learner | networking, rendering, etc all done |
| 05:04.20 | MeBigFatGuy | yes |
| 05:06.30 | learner | sgk284, are you sgrint? |
| 05:07.09 | MeBigFatGuy | if you'd like to steal the glory and do the crossing plane stuff, be my guest :) |
| 05:07.45 | learner | heh.. i don't even know what horizontal teles "do" .. :) |
| 05:10.49 | learner | feel free to enlighten me =) |
| 05:11.20 | MeBigFatGuy | they are the same as regular ones, etc you fall or jump through them |
| 05:11.24 | MeBigFatGuy | 'pits' |
| 05:11.50 | learner | ahhh .. |
| 05:12.41 | learner | awesome |
| 05:13.42 | PrezKennedy | duuuuuh |
| 05:13.49 | learner | arbitrary rotation orientations or must be planar? |
| 05:13.58 | MeBigFatGuy | z = constant |
| 05:13.59 | learner | s/planar/horizontal/ :) |
| 05:14.19 | MeBigFatGuy | yes horizontal, but spinnage in around z is fine |
| 05:15.05 | learner | are they mesh'd with arbitrary link shapes or square like the current crop? |
| 05:15.23 | MeBigFatGuy | like regular |
| 05:15.24 | sgk284 | leaner: nope |
| 05:15.34 | learner | sgk284, k thanks :) |
| 05:15.38 | sgk284 | he causing trouble? |
| 05:16.11 | learner | MeBigFatGuy: not implying it should.. sounds good :) |
| 05:16.19 | learner | sgk284, no no .. just wondering |
| 05:16.22 | sgk284 | okay |
| 05:17.34 | PrezKennedy | theres your problem... |
| 05:17.39 | PrezKennedy | its a mac |
| 05:18.01 | PrezKennedy | ;-p |
| 05:18.32 | PrezKennedy | i do this to those crazy xboxers too |
| 05:19.31 | learner | what you do with your undergarments is your business ;) |
| 05:21.09 | PrezKennedy | quite |
| 05:32.10 | *** join/#bzflag statico (~statico@langworth.com) |
| 05:32.27 | statico | howdy |
| 05:32.54 | learner | howdy |
| 05:33.08 | PrezKennedy | howdy |
| 05:33.51 | MeBigFatGuy | howdy |
| 05:34.34 | statico | fyi, i've set up mirrors of both the hepcat pillbox and babel's server |
| 05:34.57 | statico | i'm trying my best to put our university's bandwidth to good purpose :) |
| 05:37.23 | learner | do you work for your uni? |
| 05:38.20 | learner | if you don't, you should realize that if you acheive any sort of actual sustained usage that you will likely call upon the wrath of the university network lords |
| 05:38.45 | purple_cow | yep |
| 05:38.56 | purple_cow | university network lords can be evil |
| 05:39.06 | statico | trust me, it's okay :) |
| 05:39.20 | learner | and/or rather benevolent .. but less likely |
| 05:39.40 | statico | (i work and have worked part-time and full-time for the college of CS) |
| 05:40.05 | learner | heh.. trust you .. trust us.. do you have an idea of how much bandwidth bzfs can utilize? :) |
| 05:40.19 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 05:40.27 | statico | i'd like to see it :) |
| 05:40.50 | Aribeth | takes 3.2 mb for 15 players on sleepycows |
| 05:40.54 | statico | 3 shots? |
| 05:41.02 | Aribeth | 10 shots |
| 05:41.05 | statico | ah |
| 05:41.14 | *** join/#bzflag SilverFox (~Silver@68-116-46-109.or.charter.com) |
| 05:41.51 | learner | the shot count matters, but player position updating is by far the bulk |
| 05:42.05 | Aribeth | yup |
| 05:42.47 | learner | secret was seeing a full 1MBit sustained with around 10-20 players |
| 05:42.59 | statico | anyway, not to sound pretentious, but i talked with the full-time net admin. |
| 05:43.11 | statico | you'd be surprised how little traffic a computer science college pushes. |
| 05:43.23 | learner | heh, maybe your school :) |
| 05:44.30 | Aribeth | a guy ran a quake server at work and got fired |
| 05:44.49 | learner | even with mine on the internet2 network, the connection was constantly and collectively taxed/maxed |
| 05:44.56 | Aribeth | missuse of government equipment |
| 05:45.07 | learner | heh.. that's a big no no :) |
| 05:45.52 | learner | surprised he wasn't at least slapped first though.. |
| 05:46.53 | Aribeth | he was before i joined the project |
| 05:47.17 | TimRiker | ok. now I get the server list with a username and password, and I get a token back which is saved in listServer.token |
| 05:47.32 | TimRiker | now I need a new user login that passes the token... |
| 05:47.40 | learner | i get myself in trouble all the time but fortunately I usually have a good reason/need/excuse |
| 05:48.10 | Aribeth | thats good |
| 05:48.19 | learner | worse time was probably when I initiated an external port scan of a server I was locking down |
| 05:48.30 | Aribeth | best to stay under the radar i say |
| 05:48.35 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 05:49.03 | learner | security was going crazy the next morning.. I'd flooded the alert logs, people phoning and running around |
| 05:49.23 | Aribeth | ohhhh, if i did that at work it security would be all over me. |
| 05:49.44 | learner | this was, of course, really late at night too which I frequently work |
| 05:49.47 | DTRemenak | I bet you told them before you did it the next time :) |
| 05:50.00 | learner | yeah, lots of people weren't happy with that .. |
| 05:50.37 | statico | hehe |
| 05:50.44 | learner | DTRemenak: oh, I've not tested those specific waters since :) |
| 05:50.54 | DTRemenak | probably wise :) |
| 05:50.56 | Aribeth | my predecessor had the web server rigged so he could log in from home |
| 05:51.11 | learner | we have our own folks to do that thing.. it was just really late at night.. and they take days anyways :) |
| 05:51.14 | learner | but hey.. |
| 05:51.21 | learner | the machine passed with golden stars :) |
| 05:51.28 | learner | nay a port responding |
| 05:51.30 | Aribeth | IT security almost grabed the hard drive |
| 05:52.53 | learner | and I'm not even subtle about it |
| 05:53.19 | Aribeth | not generaly allowed without clearance, and then nearly imposible to get clearance |
| 05:53.20 | learner | i'll fight that fight if I have to .. would be stupid to try and stop that |
| 05:54.22 | Aribeth | i cant even use xchat at work. blocked by the firewall |
| 05:54.52 | TimRiker | Aribeth: got https access outgoing? likely you can use http connect proxy in xchat. |
| 05:55.40 | learner | chat programs are a big explicit no no in the gov right now in most places |
| 05:55.50 | Aribeth | it may be blocked too. the network is locked down very tight and they are anal about it. |
| 05:56.15 | sgk284 | Aribeth: at my office i just tunnel everything to home through ssh, only about 3 ports open on my work's firewall |
| 05:56.26 | learner | ssh is the way to go.. get off the gov't system anyways |
| 05:56.38 | Aribeth | even ssh is blocked |
| 05:56.46 | sgk284 | wow |
| 05:56.52 | sgk284 | thats nuts heh |
| 05:56.57 | DTRemenak | set your ssh server to run on port 80 |
| 05:57.02 | learner | eh? outbound ssh is blocked? that's hard to believe |
| 05:57.07 | Aribeth | yup. i deal with it all the time |
| 05:57.09 | sgk284 | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 05:57.11 | learner | DTRemenak: :) |
| 05:57.19 | Aribeth | it is |
| 05:58.03 | Aribeth | its frustrating too |
| 05:58.04 | TimRiker | again, if you have http proxy like most do, you can use something like corkscrew to get ssh to connect through the http proxy. |
| 05:58.09 | learner | how are you supposed to get to remote systems then? |
| 05:58.33 | Aribeth | secure VPN |
| 05:58.41 | TimRiker | I don't have any outgoing ports open at work. I don't even have DNS for anything outside the office. but I use ssh and xchat just fine. |
| 05:58.50 | learner | the folks don't ever have to work on high performance shared computing systems? |
| 05:59.30 | Aribeth | there are 3 networks, open, public, and private. im on the private |
| 05:59.42 | sgk284 | oh |
| 05:59.43 | Aribeth | :( |
| 05:59.51 | TimRiker | Aribeth: can you get to google? |
| 05:59.52 | sgk284 | do you even have net access? |
| 05:59.57 | Aribeth | its VERY private |
| 06:00.01 | Aribeth | yes |
| 06:00.17 | TimRiker | and have you tried outbound https like to sf.net ? |
| 06:00.24 | learner | ahh, then you can get out :) |
| 06:00.35 | Aribeth | i will try |
| 06:00.57 | Aribeth | they also monitor all traffic |
| 06:01.05 | sgk284 | encryption is your friend |
| 06:01.09 | learner | my failsafe http://db.brlcad.org/ssh/ |
| 06:01.10 | TimRiker | if so, it's very likely that http proxy support in xchat will do the trick. you just need to discover the IP of the proxy. |
| 06:01.29 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 06:01.56 | TimRiker | Aribeth: nod. ssh through the proxy will be encrypted, but irc would not (at least not to this networK) |
| 06:02.22 | Aribeth | i had a user that wanted to use chat and i spent 4 days finding out who to talk to. |
| 06:02.29 | sgk284 | heh |
| 06:03.19 | TimRiker | Aribeth: you also using linux on the private net? don't know if gentoo includes corkscrew. debian does. |
| 06:03.45 | Aribeth | hummm....i'll have to check |
| 06:04.29 | sgk284 | if your really in bind... just set up your home server to let you dial in, sure its not the fastest, but sometimes you just need to get on irc <or whatever else> :) |
| 06:05.06 | Aribeth | i cant even get into sleepycows from work. |
| 06:05.27 | *** join/#bzflag cynyr (~cynyr@207.75.37.71) |
| 06:05.29 | TimRiker | http://www.agroman.net/corkscrew/ is the site. see the readme. I have something like: |
| 06:05.40 | TimRiker | Host *.org *.net *.us *.ro *.nu |
| 06:05.46 | cynyr | hey all... i get a segfault when i try and run bzflag-1.10.8 |
| 06:06.02 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.38 | TimRiker | cynyr: strace it perhaps? |
| 06:06.51 | Aribeth | ok |
| 06:07.13 | cynyr | TimRiker: i don't have the program strace |
| 06:07.23 | TimRiker | cynyr: os? |
| 06:07.39 | cynyr | TimRiker: gentoo linux |
| 06:08.34 | cynyr | TimRiker: xorg6.8 and 2.6.9 kernel |
| 06:08.39 | Aribeth | gentoo has corkscrew, but its masked |
| 06:08.43 | TimRiker | go get it. not sure the gentoo syntax. emerge? |
| 06:08.44 | cynyr | yep |
| 06:09.13 | Aribeth | yup. i just have to unmask it, or get the source |
| 06:10.46 | purple_cow | not masked here |
| 06:10.46 | purple_cow | maybe it's a ~keyword |
| 06:11.14 | Aribeth | it is ~x86 |
| 06:12.30 | cynyr | TimRiker: it outputs a lot of stuff |
| 06:12.59 | TimRiker | cynyr: yep... look for things right near the end. ie: the crash. |
| 06:13.16 | TimRiker | also try running bzflag with -mute to see if it might be audio related. |
| 06:13.46 | learner | holie cowie! |
| 06:14.01 | TimRiker | ~cows |
| 06:14.02 | ibot | cows are animals that go moo |
| 06:14.20 | learner | minimize works on the macs now with the reinstatement of the gldeletes |
| 06:14.36 | learner | the macs have never had minimize capability before just now |
| 06:14.45 | learner | i'm a bit freaked out :) |
| 06:14.49 | learner | ship it! |
| 06:15.03 | Aribeth | wow |
| 06:15.17 | cynyr | TimRiker: i think it's something about dri.... i just swited to dri..... |
| 06:15.38 | cynyr | ~birds |
| 06:15.39 | ibot | I like birds |
| 06:15.49 | TimRiker | cynyr: sounds possible. do other glx apps like glxgears work? |
| 06:15.54 | Aribeth | birds are insane |
| 06:16.01 | learner | ~anonymous++ |
| 06:16.06 | cynyr | glx* does not... |
| 06:16.20 | Aribeth | and i know from experience |
| 06:17.40 | sgk284 | ~karma anonymous |
| 06:17.40 | ibot | anonymous has karma of 1 |
| 06:18.01 | Aribeth | ~duck |
| 06:18.02 | ibot | Hhhwrraaaaaaaacckk! |
| 06:18.19 | cynyr | ~karma cynyr |
| 06:18.19 | ibot | cynyr has neutral karma |
| 06:18.40 | cynyr | TimRiker: it's all better, it needed dri to be loaded |
| 06:18.49 | cynyr | well sorrta all better... |
| 06:18.59 | cynyr | still has the half there problem |
| 06:20.49 | sgk284 | is it just me or does the TextUtils::firstVisible not work as expected? |
| 06:25.05 | sgk284 | yea i think firstNonvisible and firstVisible need to be swapped |
| 06:25.12 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/include/bzfgl.h: zowie! the contexts restore after minimization now (at least on mac/win confirmed) .. that marks a first for the mac port! .. ty yet again busy anonymous contributioneers of benevolent fame |
| 06:28.36 | sgk284 | can someone with the bz source open *cough* learner *cough* please verfiy that i'm not going insane with the textutils thing:) its late and so i'm assuming i'm just not reading th code wrong |
| 06:28.52 | learner | people who were here through the heart ache and frustration should know |
| 06:32.13 | *** join/#bzflag kyelewis` (~kyelewis@kyelewis.user) |
| 06:32.30 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/include/TextUtils.h: yep, they're reversed. good eye sgk284. |
| 06:32.36 | sgk284 | yey:) |
| 06:33.05 | learner | nope |
| 06:33.27 | sgk284 | well i'm about to change that ;) |
| 06:36.42 | TimRiker | const int EmailLen = 128; // including terminating NUL |
| 06:36.42 | TimRiker | const int MessageLen = 128; // including terminating NUL |
| 06:36.52 | TimRiker | does that look wrong to anyone else? |
| 06:37.27 | sgk284 | heh |
| 06:38.43 | learner | just means a really long e-mail being relayed via chat messages is going to get broken up.. |
| 06:39.18 | learner | messagelen is/was the network buffer size |
| 06:39.40 | learner | now sendMessage doesn't care, though, and parses up into packages of messagelen size |
| 06:39.49 | TimRiker | well, msgEnter and msgAddPlayer would be over tcp, not udp. |
| 06:40.09 | TimRiker | but aren't there msg buffers that are MessageLen sized? |
| 06:40.46 | learner | there are a few remaining ones .. doesn't hurt if they are sized or if they are std::string.c_str()'s |
| 06:41.20 | learner | s/few/quite a few/ |
| 06:41.49 | sgk284 | make |
| 06:41.51 | sgk284 | ww |
| 06:42.05 | sgk284 | heh |
| 06:42.16 | sgk284 | :) |
| 06:42.20 | Aribeth | lol |
| 06:42.38 | TimRiker | see any issue with making msgenter 22 bytes longer then? |
| 06:43.09 | learner | TimRiker, nothing comes to mind |
| 06:44.49 | learner | 22 bytes is quite a bit of info.. what's the addition? |
| 06:45.26 | learner | patlabor221, believe it or not.. bz compiled perfectly for me :( |
| 06:46.38 | learner | g++ is just messing with me I think.. or messing with others .. it never asm's for me for whatever reason.. |
| 06:47.21 | learner | perhaps sdl "fixed" it .. /me tries sans |
| 06:47.46 | TimRiker | learner it's now int(10):int(10)\0 |
| 06:48.09 | TimRiker | it's sent it text from the server over http and I didn't want to convert it over and back. |
| 06:48.12 | learner | user tokens? |
| 06:48.51 | TimRiker | login. user sends callsign and password to list server. get's token, passes token to game server, game server verifies with list server. |
| 06:49.31 | learner | why not make it 2 bytes? .. should be no consequence to the server to atoi it given frequency of enters |
| 06:49.48 | TimRiker | 2 bytes is too easy to forge. |
| 06:50.04 | learner | and 10 char id's isn't? :) |
| 06:50.39 | TimRiker | the id will be your global id, but the other 10 char is random and expires after one use. so yeah, it should be random enough. |
| 06:51.59 | learner | if they know it's an int, it's not really a safeguard unless you plan to turn that into an md5 or some other hex value later |
| 06:52.25 | TimRiker | eventually it would be krb5 data encrypted. |
| 06:53.21 | TimRiker | probably base64 encoded or something to allow for clean web passthrough. |
| 06:53.24 | learner | shrug, easy to change regardless, but sounds good |
| 06:54.53 | guru | how do i tell what renderer bzflag is using? |
| 06:55.06 | guru | gah, that came out wrong |
| 06:55.30 | guru | how can i tell which libGL.so bzflag is using? |
| 06:55.30 | learner | nm? |
| 06:56.00 | guru | bzflag requires opengl support, correct? |
| 06:56.04 | TimRiker | guru: ldd |
| 06:56.33 | learner | otool -L src/bzflag/bzflag will give you a list |
| 06:56.53 | guru | i'm attempting to run call of duty via wine, however it is complaining that it could not load OpenGl...i know opengl is working because bzflag runs perfectly |
| 06:57.10 | learner | "load opengl"? |
| 06:57.20 | learner | what's trying to load what? |
| 06:57.29 | guru | the exact message is this: http://63.242.126.194/current.png |
| 06:57.51 | guru | wine isn't telling me much of anything...maybe i should try to run bzflag |
| 06:57.53 | learner | heh, png |
| 06:58.11 | PrezKennedy | jpg works just fine... |
| 06:58.55 | learner | guru, oh.. wine. why wine?? |
| 06:59.33 | guru | there is no port for call of duty on nix :( |
| 06:59.49 | learner | bah |
| 06:59.51 | PrezKennedy | hey learner... i still cant connect to bzflag.bz |
| 06:59.59 | PrezKennedy | is it behind a firewall or something? |
| 07:00.02 | guru | but if bzflag runs under wine, then i'll know that it's not gl |
| 07:00.02 | learner | eh? no |
| 07:00.23 | learner | ~ping bz.bzflag.bz |
| 07:00.25 | ibot | pong bz.bzflag.bz |
| 07:00.41 | learner | ~nslookup bz.bzflag.bz |
| 07:00.49 | PrezKennedy | mine times out |
| 07:00.50 | guru | hmm... |
| 07:00.57 | learner | try the ip directly |
| 07:01.02 | guru | learner: you're the opengl guru for bzflag right? |
| 07:01.06 | PrezKennedy | it has the right ip address |
| 07:01.22 | learner | guru, I thought you were the guru |
| 07:01.31 | PrezKennedy | still times out |
| 07:01.35 | guru | heh, i'm the c guru not the opengl guru ;) |
| 07:01.43 | learner | PrezKennedy, what's timing out? |
| 07:01.51 | guru | err:module:import_dll No implementation for OPENGL32.dll.glLightf imported from L"Z:\\mnt\\audio\\Program Files\\BZFlag1.10.8\\bzflag.exe", setting to 0xdeadbeef |
| 07:01.54 | guru | err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization failed, status c0000135 |
| 07:02.01 | PrezKennedy | bz.bzflag.bz |
| 07:02.07 | PrezKennedy | as well as the direct ip address |
| 07:02.09 | guru | so...what i gather from that is opengl32.dll cannot be found |
| 07:02.10 | learner | i mean what app |
| 07:02.20 | PrezKennedy | ping, ssh |
| 07:03.07 | PrezKennedy | to my computer it doesnt exist |
| 07:03.31 | learner | hrm.. you might be firewalled.. |
| 07:03.47 | PrezKennedy | i can connect to other servers fine |
| 07:03.51 | learner | there was a DoS attack the other day .. maybe from your neck of the woods |
| 07:04.13 | PrezKennedy | i can also connect through a third party... |
| 07:04.24 | learner | not to my box, but somewhere on the subnet.. |
| 07:04.31 | learner | send me your ip to poke them with |
| 07:04.40 | learner | oh wait |
| 07:04.45 | learner | there is a local firewall too.. |
| 07:04.52 | learner | maybe you snuck into that list =) |
| 07:05.23 | PrezKennedy | it would be something in the range of 130.85.* |
| 07:05.28 | PrezKennedy | sometimes it changes |
| 07:06.00 | learner | hehe, there you are |
| 07:06.09 | PrezKennedy | maybe i tried using the wrong password too many times? |
| 07:06.10 | learner | you've attempted 24 times apparently |
| 07:07.01 | learner | that's probably what got you on the list |
| 07:07.11 | PrezKennedy | well on the upside i remember my password now |
| 07:07.17 | learner | :) |
| 07:07.45 | learner | try now :) |
| 07:07.52 | learner | sorry 'bout that.. |
| 07:08.04 | learner | that's been at least a week or two |
| 07:08.19 | TimRiker | httpdtype bz.bzflag.bz |
| 07:08.24 | TimRiker | ~httpdtype bz.bzflag.bz |
| 07:08.26 | PrezKennedy | yeah you didnt believe me when i said it didnt come up :-P |
| 07:08.38 | PrezKennedy | it works now |
| 07:08.54 | learner | you'd said that right as the rdns went up.. figured something might have needed propagating |
| 07:09.26 | learner | and .. well yeah I didn't believe you .. but then I don't believe myself either |
| 07:09.44 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery one.bzflag.org:5153 |
| 07:10.04 | learner | ~md5 hix |
| 07:10.12 | learner | aww |
| 07:10.56 | PrezKennedy | i was going to try and set up cgi-irc at the time |
| 07:11.05 | PrezKennedy | maybe i can do that today |
| 07:11.28 | *** join/#bzflag blast007_ (~blast@216.138.191.192) |
| 07:11.47 | learner | you control osg's dns? |
| 07:12.04 | TimRiker | ~rot13 hix |
| 07:12.04 | ibot | uvk |
| 07:12.08 | TimRiker | that work for ya? |
| 07:12.22 | PrezKennedy | it wasnt going to be that elegant of a solution ;-) |
| 07:12.39 | learner | nah .. i've got servers running based off ports based on numbers from the md5 :) |
| 07:12.54 | TimRiker | heh |
| 07:13.28 | learner | hard as heck to remember, but easy to reproduce :) |
| 07:13.50 | learner | ~bzfquery hix.bzflag.org:4126 |
| 07:13.56 | learner | ~bzfquery hix.bzflag.bz:4126 |
| 07:15.53 | learner | should change that to 3687 probably.. |
| 07:22.35 | learner | there we go, all better |
| 07:24.16 | PrezKennedy | ooh thats a little creepy |
| 07:24.52 | PrezKennedy | http://www.google.com/search?num=20&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&q=All-China+Youth+Network+Civilization+Convention+ |
| 07:34.22 | SilentBob | learner, You here? |
| 07:36.03 | PrezKennedy | http://www.gcclinux.com/#cross-browser |
| 07:36.16 | PrezKennedy | they will have to strive harder, as i have them beat at about 2:1 right now |
| 07:36.56 | TimRiker | anyone want to add a menu item on the join menu that edits the "password" DB entry? |
| 07:37.36 | TimRiker | should work just like editing the email field |
| 07:40.34 | *** join/#bzflag _Manu_ (~Manu@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 07:50.08 | MeBigFatGuy | prolly want to draw *'s tho |
| 08:05.52 | TimRiker | argh... I've got the token in serverList-> and I want it in MyTank. |
| 08:07.18 | Aribeth | arg |
| 08:07.36 | Aribeth | just got trounced by a player frank |
| 08:12.49 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/include/global.h: add a password item to the join menu |
| 08:13.08 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (6 files): add a password item to the join menu |
| 08:16.50 | MeBigFatGuy | is password required? |
| 08:18.11 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/JoinMenu.cxx: store password in startup info |
| 08:24.29 | TimRiker | MeBigFatGuy: no. |
| 08:24.41 | MeBigFatGuy | stored plain text in bzdb? |
| 08:24.50 | TimRiker | but server admins can require it (ie: registration) |
| 08:25.19 | MeBigFatGuy | or always entered? |
| 08:26.03 | MeBigFatGuy | or read plain texted, if exists, but never stored |
| 08:26.31 | PrezKennedy | gnight all |
| 08:27.51 | TimRiker | read plain texted, stored in config in plain text. sent to list server in plain text. never sent to game servers. |
| 08:28.05 | MeBigFatGuy | k |
| 08:30.52 | MeBigFatGuy | ok, should be there now |
| 08:31.08 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx: write/read password in plaintext to bzdb |
| 08:31.13 | TimRiker | thx. updating... |
| 08:42.40 | TimRiker | arg.. updating headers and rebuilding sucks. |
| 08:43.35 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 08:45.14 | TimRiker | I sill have not fond where to cleanly get the token from serverList to myTank |
| 08:45.56 | TimRiker | and serverList will need to get used to get a token without actually entering the menu in the future. |
| 08:46.09 | TimRiker | should update the local cache, but not show anything. |
| 08:47.14 | TimRiker | the callback scheme is very close to what is needed. might just be a matter of using a different callback until/if you enter the menu. |
| 08:47.26 | MeBigFatGuy | prhaps |
| 08:48.33 | *** join/#bzflag bomber (~bomber@ap97.physik.uni-frankfurt.de) |
| 08:48.35 | bomber | moin |
| 08:49.08 | MeBigFatGuy | oh look, an unused power cord... fantast |
| 08:50.12 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/ (13 files in 5 dirs): |
| 08:50.12 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: VERSION CHANGE |
| 08:50.12 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: token is added to MsgEnter changing protocol slightly |
| 08:50.12 | CIA-1 | BZFlag: still needs to get from serverList to myTank |
| 08:56.08 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 08:56.59 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 08:57.12 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 08:57.28 | TimRiker | that's not good. |
| 08:57.52 | BigE | Bleh. |
| 08:58.11 | TimRiker | blackhole somewhere between us |
| 08:58.19 | TimRiker | I can get there if I ssh someplace else. |
| 08:59.12 | BigE | Okay... so someone here earlier told me to use mem=nopentium in my boot line to fix my problem where bzflag locks up my whole computer (and possibly causes a kernel panic)... however, it doesn't work, and now I notice a segfault if I just start up bzflag and quit almost isntantly. |
| 09:00.07 | TimRiker | routes are changing... |
| 09:00.19 | TimRiker | hey a ping! |
| 09:01.32 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 09:03.21 | BigE | So uh... would a gdb backtrace be useful at all? |
| 09:03.48 | TimRiker | have you tried gl indirect? |
| 09:04.04 | BigE | What's that? |
| 09:04.36 | TimRiker | LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT=1 bzflag will be real slow, but should work. |
| 09:04.50 | BigE | Where do I specify that at? |
| 09:05.08 | TimRiker | enter that as a command to start the game. |
| 09:05.12 | purple_cow | TimRiker: i don't think nvidia respects that |
| 09:05.16 | BigE | Okay. |
| 09:05.31 | TimRiker | purple_cow: no? oh. then it might kill your box. |
| 09:05.45 | TimRiker | but I guess you've done that before. |
| 09:05.53 | BigE | Eh, still notice a segfault when I quit... |
| 09:06.57 | purple_cow | BigE: try __GL_NO_DSO_FINALIZER=1 |
| 09:07.48 | TimRiker | looks like it's gblx.net peering with att.net that causing the grief. |
| 09:12.39 | TimRiker | well, still can't hit the list server. headed to bed. nite. |
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| 09:14.25 | BigE | purple_cow:Sorry... didn't work, would have responded sooner but I was too busy locking up my system... again. |
| 09:15.18 | purple_cow | you might see if you can get someone in #nvidia to help |
| 09:16.43 | BigE | Thing is, it seems to almost be system specific... I have a couple friends running Gentoo or FreeBSD with AMD chipset and nVidia card... they have no problems at all. |
| 09:17.25 | _Manu_ | i'm running gentoo using nvidia and no problem.. |
| 09:17.37 | purple_cow | but they've probably got a lot more experience at debugging system specific problems |
| 09:18.12 | BigE | Well... they can't help me fix mine either, so I dunno. :P |
| 09:19.01 | _Manu_ | what kernel/nvidia drivers are you using? |
| 09:19.24 | BigE | 2.4.26-gentoo-r9 kernel... nvidia drivers are whatever is in portage |
| 09:19.31 | BigE | even tried the ones off the site with no luck |
| 09:19.58 | _Manu_ | ops.. i'm using 2.6.9 and 6111 nvidia drivers... now in stable and never problems.. |
| 09:20.40 | _Manu_ | also got problems using 2.6 kernel series with old nvidia drivers.. |
| 09:20.56 | _Manu_ | s/also/only |
| 09:26.41 | BigE | Hmm... |
| 09:26.49 | BigE | I wonder if I should try the 2.6 kernel.... |
| 09:27.23 | purple_cow | the answer to that is "hell yes" :) |
| 09:27.26 | _Manu_ | i'm using in production machines and no problems |
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