| 00:00.00 | Legoguy | hello? |
| 00:00.04 | *** join/#bzflag PointBlank (PointBlank@dialup-4.240.105.43.Dial1.Phoenix1.Level3.net) |
| 00:00.15 | wegstar | hello? hello? hello? |
| 00:00.20 | *** join/#bzflag noyb (~noyb@wbar2.lax1-4-8-213-215.dsl-verizon.net) |
| 00:00.24 | wegstar | hi noyb |
| 00:00.25 | Legoguy | *silence* |
| 00:00.28 | DTRemenak | Legoguy: just sdl, and sdl-dev to compile. none of the extra stuff. |
| 00:00.31 | noyb | hi there! |
| 00:00.38 | Thumper_ | ok sbgodin just found a bug... |
| 00:00.41 | wegstar | *silence* *silence* *silence* |
| 00:00.45 | Thumper_ | hit shift-F1 twice fast... |
| 00:00.55 | trepan | and the text disappears? |
| 00:00.57 | noyb | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.05 | Thumper_ | and gets garbled |
| 00:01.09 | Legoguy | DTRemenak: eh... right... portage doesn't have a single sdl, it's got a couple of them that make up "sdl" |
| 00:01.17 | DTRemenak | Legoguy: which ones? |
| 00:01.20 | noyb | specifically 1.11.41.today |
| 00:01.25 | brlcad | we're all busy |
| 00:01.36 | trepan | i noticed that today too, kinda forgot |
| 00:01.40 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 00:02.16 | DTRemenak | Legoguy: or is there a list somewhere? |
| 00:02.24 | brlcad | noyb: glad to ehar it |
| 00:02.36 | Legoguy | i think i got it, using equery to find what package owns /usr/bin/sdl-config worked |
| 00:02.50 | Legoguy | libsdl |
| 00:03.00 | DTRemenak | Legoguy: yeah. there are a bunch of extra libraries that sdl puts out, that we don't need |
| 00:03.09 | DTRemenak | like sdl-ttf, sdl-net, sdl-gfx, etc |
| 00:03.20 | DTRemenak | just the core library and -dev if there is one |
| 00:04.27 | *** part/#bzflag wegstar (~wegstar@adsl-67-121-168-66.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
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| 00:04.40 | Legoguy | does it need SDL for bzadmin? |
| 00:04.51 | DTRemenak | no |
| 00:04.54 | Legoguy | k |
| 00:04.54 | TimRiker | headed home. back on later. |
| 00:05.10 | DTRemenak | actually, it doesn't "need" it at all. it's just a good idea to have it. |
| 00:06.30 | DTRemenak | it's a soft requirement, not a hard one, if your package system has such things |
| 00:08.57 | amathis | wow |
| 00:09.02 | amathis | bzflag 2.0 was released |
| 00:09.04 | amathis | hehe |
| 00:09.08 | wegstar | hehe |
| 00:09.40 | wegstar | heh |
| 00:10.17 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 00:10.21 | *** part/#bzflag orchid (orchid@orchid.user) |
| 00:10.48 | amathis | I see we need some packeges made. |
| 00:11.09 | DTRemenak | amathis: offering? |
| 00:11.36 | amathis | DTRemenak: I don't have a rpm / mandrake rpm distro |
| 00:11.40 | amathis | and I am not running slackware anymore |
| 00:11.41 | amathis | :/ |
| 00:11.52 | amathis | I guess I could read up on ebuild packages |
| 00:12.04 | amathis | can't do the .deb either. |
| 00:12.06 | DTRemenak | Legoguy already did ebuilds, I think |
| 00:12.10 | amathis | darn |
| 00:12.13 | DTRemenak | TimRiker already did .debs |
| 00:12.43 | Legoguy | http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78438 |
| 00:12.46 | Legoguy | ^^^ for ebuilds |
| 00:12.57 | DTRemenak | some dude does the slackware packages and sends them to brlcad, apparently |
| 00:14.13 | amathis | hmm |
| 00:14.24 | amathis | all I see is the bzflg source and the bzflag win for 2.0 |
| 00:14.34 | MeBigFatGuy | and thats a problem? :) |
| 00:15.07 | *** join/#bzflag FerrarisRule (~18df9523@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:15.18 | FerrarisRule | can someone help me? |
| 00:15.20 | amathis | MeBigFatGuy: nah |
| 00:15.29 | amathis | but I thought ya;ll said there was a .deb |
| 00:15.36 | FerrarisRule | i don't know what i should download for 2.0 |
| 00:15.54 | MeBigFatGuy | what os? :) |
| 00:16.08 | FerrarisRule | windows XP |
| 00:16.11 | amathis | win32 |
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| 00:16.17 | amathis | or whatever it says |
| 00:16.23 | FerrarisRule | k, thx |
| 00:16.23 | DTRemenak | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3248&package_id=3832 |
| 00:18.18 | brlcad | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=26873#26873 |
| 00:19.16 | wegstar | "JumpingHappy" |
| 00:19.17 | wegstar | ? |
| 00:19.25 | brlcad | lemme know if I missed anything |
| 00:19.27 | wegstar | that's "Bouncy ":) |
| 00:19.33 | brlcad | yeah |
| 00:19.36 | brlcad | fixing |
| 00:20.16 | MeBigFatGuy | good job |
| 00:20.57 | amathis | what had to go in before it was released? |
| 00:21.16 | brlcad | sugar and spice |
| 00:21.35 | amathis | hah. |
| 00:22.22 | wegstar | drumroll :) |
| 00:22.37 | brlcad | thank you thank you |
| 00:22.41 | brlcad | i'm here all week |
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| 00:23.03 | brlcad | try the guacamole |
| 00:24.06 | brlcad | it's excellent, really |
| 00:24.06 | wegstar | strange... I can't login unless i'm logged off the forums :( |
| 00:24.07 | brlcad | heh, oops |
| 00:24.07 | brlcad | that'd be a bug :) |
| 00:24.13 | wegstar | hmm |
| 00:24.28 | amathis | shouldn't bzflag try and destroy the cookie? |
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| 00:24.42 | amathis | that would be hard |
| 00:24.43 | amathis | heh |
| 00:24.44 | brlcad | death to the cookie |
| 00:25.47 | amathis | WOW |
| 00:25.54 | amathis | bzflag 2.0 really built fast |
| 00:26.07 | amathis | perhaps it is because I had ccache from a very recent cvs build |
| 00:26.08 | amathis | ? |
| 00:26.12 | amathis | maybe. |
| 00:30.01 | Legoguy | amathis: you used the ebuild? |
| 00:30.06 | wegstar | 164 C:\Documents and Settings\wegstar\Desktop\bzflag\src\platform\SDLDisplay.cxx `SDL_BUTTON_WHEELUP' undeclared (first use this function) -uh oh.... |
| 00:32.58 | Tupone | wegstar: what version of SDL you have ? |
| 00:33.20 | wegstar | 1.2.8 |
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| 00:33.54 | Tupone | hmm probably is bad installed. Grab the SDL include files |
| 00:34.16 | wegstar | the site is down |
| 00:34.16 | amathis | Legoguy: no |
| 00:34.20 | amathis | Legoguy: I didn't see it in portage |
| 00:34.28 | Tupone | wegstar: yours :) |
| 00:34.30 | amathis | I compiled it |
| 00:34.57 | wegstar | "grab"??? |
| 00:35.03 | Tupone | should be in SDL_mouse.h |
| 00:35.09 | wegstar | ok |
| 00:35.40 | Tupone | I presume you do not have the include file at all, but may be wrong |
| 00:35.58 | wegstar | include that? |
| 00:36.16 | wegstar | i'll try |
| 00:36.36 | wegstar | 565 C:\Documents and Settings\wegstar\Desktop\bzflag\src\platform\SDLDisplay.cxx `SDL_GL_STEREO' undeclared (first use this function) - where would that be ? |
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| 00:37.12 | Tupone | what compiler you have ? VC6, VC7 ? |
| 00:37.23 | wegstar | I'm using Dev-cpp |
| 00:37.43 | Tupone | you probably do not have SDL include file. You downloaded that? |
| 00:37.50 | shorty114 | http://shorty114.kicks-ass.net/ <-- tell me what you think :D |
| 00:37.51 | wegstar | yes |
| 00:38.07 | Tupone | probably in a different path |
| 00:38.08 | wegstar | slick... :) |
| 00:39.05 | shorty114 | yo SportChick |
| 00:39.09 | shorty114 | wassup? |
| 00:39.15 | DTRemenak | SportChick: did you try one of the regular servers? secretplace or something, that you know what your lag used to be? |
| 00:39.22 | SportChick | I did earlier |
| 00:39.25 | SportChick | when Nid had sp up |
| 00:39.40 | Tupone | wegstar: you should pester lan56 or DTRemenak |
| 00:39.50 | SportChick | but I was just on decks - bz girl's server. normally my lag there is a little high but fine to play. iwas running at 550+ |
| 00:39.51 | DTRemenak | not I, not I. |
| 00:40.00 | Tupone | :) |
| 00:40.04 | DTRemenak | yeah, it was really bad there. not sure why. |
| 00:40.13 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: can you put spiralszone up somewhere? |
| 00:40.16 | Tupone | probably is linking or rsyncing |
| 00:40.17 | wegstar | yeah... |
| 00:40.18 | SportChick | so I can test |
| 00:41.00 | Jormungandr | Having trouble running the 1.11.41.deb, I've installed, and it appears to have installed correctly. But when I ran it acted like it was attempting, I raqn it from the term and it gave me "No fonts found (the -directory option may help). Exiting". Could anyone shead some light? |
| 00:42.35 | blast007 | Jormungandr: there's a 2.0 .deb at http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ |
| 00:42.44 | blast007 | (not that it fixes your problem) |
| 00:43.14 | Jormungandr | Yeah they work ive talked about it, |
| 00:43.34 | DTRemenak | not that I know anything about .deb, but looking at "rules" it has a rule for the l10n directory but not for the fonts directory |
| 00:43.55 | Jormungandr | Talked to a few others running the same versions with no complaints |
| 00:44.01 | DTRemenak | k |
| 00:44.12 | DTRemenak | like I said, I don't know anything :) |
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| 00:45.10 | Jormungandr | Hehe, SportChick you will here almost nothing else:) |
| 00:45.35 | brlcad | easy.. don't force registration :) |
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| 00:46.28 | SportChick | is there a central email/place we can send people who have trouble registering? |
| 00:47.13 | brlcad | SportChick: tim@rikers.org :) |
| 00:47.18 | shorty114 | lol |
| 00:47.20 | SportChick | brlcad: hehehehe |
| 00:47.37 | brlcad | what? |
| 00:47.39 | brlcad | i'm serious ;) |
| 00:48.20 | brlcad | otherwise send them to http://sf.net/projects/bzflag/ to the Forums section and/or the Support section |
| 00:48.28 | SportChick | brlcad: you think you didn't see him enough here before... |
| 00:48.37 | Jormungandr | Why not send them to the forums ? |
| 00:52.42 | cods | bzfquery.{pl,py} were not updated for 0026 :/ |
| 00:53.07 | brlcad | indeed |
| 00:53.55 | Jormungandr | Hehe, wow must have missed it i installed the 1.11.41 a few hours ago and you guys spit out the 2.0 right after |
| 00:54.03 | SportChick | can they post in the forums without registering though? |
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| 00:54.25 | SportChick | if not, then sending them to the forums won't necessarily help |
| 00:55.03 | Jormungandr | You could set it up so they could, but thats under the forum config stuff I believe |
| 00:55.11 | *** part/#bzflag Aribeth (~Aribeth@dsl081-067-057.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 00:55.11 | *** join/#bzflag Aribeth (~Aribeth@dsl081-067-057.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 00:55.47 | brlcad | SportChick: don't know .. just have to try |
| 00:56.04 | brlcad | i believe they might be able to for the sf.net forums (but not bzbb) |
| 00:56.36 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/misc/ (bzfquery.pl bzfquery.py): proto update to 0026 |
| 00:56.41 | brlcad | sf.net news posted |
| 00:57.10 | JeffM2501 | sory bout that, had work, do you still need the zip file for the soruce? |
| 00:58.16 | *** join/#bzflag dax (~me@pD9E67741.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:58.34 | Jormungandr | brlcad, SportChick, im running phpbb, On mine it declares you a guest, guessing the same for bzbb. But thats in the config for the forum i think |
| 00:58.49 | Legoguy | in a matter of minutes all turbogfx.homelinux.org servers will be 2.0.0 ;) |
| 00:59.24 | JeffM2501 | bzbb forums shouldnot allow guests to post |
| 00:59.32 | JeffM2501 | if any do, they are set wrong |
| 01:00.11 | brlcad | Jormungandr: yes i know, though they are disabled for bzbb |
| 01:00.36 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, if you need a windows source zip. it's http://myth.GibbsCAM.com/temp/bzflag-src.zip |
| 01:01.10 | shorty114 | JeffM2501: the "fan sites" forum has guest posting., |
| 01:01.20 | brlcad | JeffM2501: got it |
| 01:01.25 | Jormungandr | brlcad, oh i see, i though we were talking about in general if it were possible |
| 01:01.30 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: you may want to consider making a "registration issues" forum with guest posting enabled |
| 01:01.48 | brlcad | and tim as the moderator |
| 01:01.53 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 01:02.01 | JeffM2501 | well tim is auto moderator |
| 01:02.04 | JeffM2501 | but you want him linked? |
| 01:02.19 | JeffM2501 | aka under the forum tile? |
| 01:02.53 | shorty114 | what's the ETA on the mac 2.0 binary? |
| 01:02.57 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (6 files in 5 dirs): cvs becomes 2.0.1 |
| 01:03.04 | JeffM2501 | fansites is reg posting only |
| 01:03.12 | *** join/#bzflag brad2901[2] (~brad2901@ACBFB6DF.ipt.aol.com) |
| 01:03.21 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, what section do you want it in? |
| 01:03.39 | Jormungandr | Im still getting this error with the 2.0 : "No fonts found (the -directory option may help). Exiting" |
| 01:03.39 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: I dunno, your call. Just thought it might be something to think about. |
| 01:03.46 | JeffM2501 | main? |
| 01:03.49 | JeffM2501 | under fansites? |
| 01:03.58 | JeffM2501 | or in Forum Admistration |
| 01:03.58 | DTRemenak | sounds fine |
| 01:04.06 | DTRemenak | mm, dunno |
| 01:04.13 | DTRemenak | that's way down at the bottom |
| 01:04.16 | JeffM2501 | Forum Admistration is at the bery bottom |
| 01:04.18 | JeffM2501 | may not be good |
| 01:04.45 | shorty114 | what's the ETA on the mac 2.0 binary? learner? |
| 01:04.52 | brlcad | heh, and then sf.net goes down |
| 01:04.56 | shorty114 | ^.^ |
| 01:05.02 | shorty114 | oh crap i hope you're not joking |
| 01:05.05 | JeffM2501 | shorty114, probably when you stop asking. |
| 01:05.14 | shorty114 | OMFG |
| 01:05.14 | brlcad | shorty114: two weeks |
| 01:05.24 | shorty114 | alright, i officially hate SF. |
| 01:06.04 | JeffM2501 | Tim is a moderator |
| 01:06.06 | *** part/#bzflag dax (~me@pD9E67741.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:06.07 | JeffM2501 | anyone else? |
| 01:06.29 | shorty114 | weird...the backup SF server is faster than the normal one o.o |
| 01:07.57 | Jormungandr | Anyone know why the 2.0 .deb is telling me it can't find fonts? |
| 01:08.14 | JeffM2501 | is your old version still installed? |
| 01:08.18 | DTRemenak | Jormungandr: because it can't find them, obviously ;) |
| 01:08.28 | Jormungandr | DTRemenak, ;) |
| 01:08.34 | Jormungandr | I think it replaced it auto |
| 01:08.41 | JeffM2501 | think? |
| 01:08.43 | JeffM2501 | or know? |
| 01:08.44 | Jormungandr | Or i 'thought' so |
| 01:09.04 | JeffM2501 | is there a fonts dir in the data dir that it's using? |
| 01:10.03 | shorty114 | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 01:10.11 | Jormungandr | Might have found it .. one second |
| 01:11.07 | *** part/#bzflag mozul (~KBC18135@ct550.aero.org) |
| 01:12.28 | Jormungandr | I had it installed in a dir other then my home, move it but its still giving the same result |
| 01:13.46 | bryjen | ~bzfquery bryjen.bzflag.org |
| 01:14.13 | SportChick | now that's odd - it says I joined bzbb for the first time on jan 2005 |
| 01:14.25 | sgk284 | hurray!!! its released!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:14.29 | sgk284 | am i late? :) |
| 01:14.31 | SportChick | sgk284: duh! |
| 01:14.54 | bryjen | SportChick: there seem to be two of you |
| 01:14.56 | sgk284 | is it sad that the first thing i did was go to my laptop and type /topic ? |
| 01:14.58 | bryjen | one is spaced |
| 01:15.11 | *** join/#bzflag orchid (orchid@orchid.user) |
| 01:15.17 | bryjen | hmm, which may not be legal anymore |
| 01:15.22 | SportChick | oh yea! hehe, I forgot |
| 01:15.49 | sgk284 | ugh and sf.net is down! |
| 01:15.58 | SportChick | tee hee |
| 01:16.00 | bryjen | although that would be a problem for "Tim Riker" |
| 01:16.20 | JeffM2501 | spaces are fine |
| 01:16.29 | JeffM2501 | I think she just loged in as the wrong one |
| 01:16.30 | Legoguy | alright, so, i have 5 servers coming from one computer, and it only shows one of them on the listserver |
| 01:16.32 | Legoguy | what should I do |
| 01:16.47 | sgk284 | get 4 more computers |
| 01:16.49 | JeffM2501 | set your port lines correctly |
| 01:16.50 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 01:16.51 | Legoguy | ports 5154-5158 |
| 01:16.59 | JeffM2501 | in your publicaddrs |
| 01:16.59 | Legoguy | i have |
| 01:17.04 | Legoguy | ... |
| 01:17.10 | JeffM2501 | then they would work |
| 01:17.11 | Legoguy | only the 5155 one shows in the list |
| 01:17.12 | JeffM2501 | you do -p |
| 01:17.30 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:17.41 | sgk284 | is the tarball up anywhere else other then sf.net? like on nid's server? |
| 01:17.49 | Legoguy | well that do you know |
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| 01:18.20 | brlcad | hi _bubbles_ |
| 01:18.26 | Legoguy | all but one of the servers didn't like something, i just copied over the old config files, and i guess some options have been changed |
| 01:18.33 | Jormungandr | Grr, "No fonts found (the -directory option may help). Exiting" It can't find fonts;) |
| 01:18.51 | Legoguy | "bad argument -vetoTime" |
| 01:18.51 | JeffM2501 | are there fonts in your data dir? |
| 01:19.05 | Jormungandr | I have it installed in my home dir |
| 01:19.10 | Jormungandr | so yes |
| 01:19.20 | JeffM2501 | is that the folder that the exe is using? |
| 01:19.28 | brlcad | wow, what horrible timing |
| 01:19.30 | JeffM2501 | or perhaps another OLDER data dir |
| 01:19.32 | Jormungandr | .deb |
| 01:19.33 | brlcad | "On 2005-01-17 at 17:00 Pacific there will be 7 hours of downtime for the SourceForge.net website. During this time frame, the site may be accessible in a Read-Only or a full Read/Write state for sporadic periods as we progress with the maintenance in its various stages. This is to allow us to perform some maintenance to improve site performance issues that cropped up over the weekend." |
| 01:19.34 | JeffM2501 | is around |
| 01:19.38 | Jormungandr | yeah |
| 01:19.47 | JeffM2501 | then it's using that OLDER one |
| 01:19.51 | JeffM2501 | that does not have a fonts dir |
| 01:19.53 | JeffM2501 | so it can't find it |
| 01:20.01 | wegstar | who's in charge of the DevC++ portion thingy? |
| 01:20.04 | JeffM2501 | use the -directory |
| 01:20.07 | JeffM2501 | lan56 |
| 01:20.15 | Jormungandr | Ahh so i still somehow have the 1.00x installed? |
| 01:20.16 | wegstar | anyone else? |
| 01:20.20 | JeffM2501 | not realy |
| 01:20.30 | Jormungandr | *1.10x* |
| 01:20.31 | JeffM2501 | it's more of ajoke then a real supported thing |
| 01:20.40 | bryjen | yay for releasing at the beginning of a planned maintance window! |
| 01:20.40 | JeffM2501 | Jormungandr, yes |
| 01:20.44 | wegstar | umm... right |
| 01:20.54 | wegstar | a joke? |
| 01:20.55 | Jormungandr | JeffM2501, thank you |
| 01:20.58 | JeffM2501 | lan56 is less then relyable |
| 01:21.08 | DTRemenak | not really a joke. just somewhat...questionable |
| 01:21.09 | JeffM2501 | and it's kinda a toy IDE, no real dev uses it |
| 01:21.19 | JeffM2501 | well yeah joke is bad word |
| 01:21.21 | wegstar | ah... |
| 01:21.21 | JeffM2501 | crap |
| 01:21.25 | JeffM2501 | that's a better word :) |
| 01:21.30 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 01:21.31 | wegstar | hehe |
| 01:21.42 | JeffM2501 | it's not aything anyone uses except lan |
| 01:21.51 | JeffM2501 | and he's questionble |
| 01:22.04 | wegstar | Have you seen him in the past few days here? |
| 01:22.09 | DTRemenak | I use it as a source editor when I'm on windows and don't have VC installed. which is not often. |
| 01:22.14 | bryjen | s/questionble/borderline |
| 01:22.26 | JeffM2501 | he pops in, shouts stuff about updating things, commits something that dosn't work, flufs his ego, then leaves. |
| 01:22.38 | DTRemenak | the ego is the important part |
| 01:22.41 | wegstar | heh |
| 01:22.48 | bryjen | better words all 'round |
| 01:23.07 | DTRemenak | wegstar: what seems to be the problem? |
| 01:23.15 | Legoguy | what's the new equivalent to -prohibitBots |
| 01:23.17 | wegstar | he forgot some includes :) |
| 01:23.20 | DTRemenak | now that we've finished trashing lan :) |
| 01:23.48 | bryjen | ugh. ccache doesn't help when switching from debug to normal build |
| 01:23.49 | DTRemenak | wegstar: how so? |
| 01:24.32 | wegstar | well, some functions are not defined.. like SDL_STEREO .. or something like that... |
| 01:24.40 | DTRemenak | hmm, I bet I know what it is |
| 01:24.43 | JeffM2501 | *sniker* |
| 01:25.19 | wegstar | # include <SDL/SDL_error.h> |
| 01:25.19 | wegstar | # include <SDL/SDL_quit.h> in bzfSDL |
| 01:25.21 | wegstar | .h |
| 01:25.26 | wegstar | that's it |
| 01:26.06 | DTRemenak | say what? |
| 01:26.20 | wegstar | in bzfSDL.h... |
| 01:26.41 | wegstar | bleh.. i'll use pastebin.. wait.. |
| 01:27.09 | *** join/#bzflag Nicole (Nicole@Ottawa-HSE-ppp4018578.sympatico.ca) |
| 01:27.44 | wegstar | http://pastebin.ca/4404 |
| 01:27.54 | wegstar | "/ADD" |
| 01:28.22 | wegstar | wow.. it compiles successfully if I add them,:) |
| 01:29.09 | wegstar | it compiled... now where do I find that executable? |
| 01:30.08 | wegstar | ah.. never mind |
| 01:30.17 | DTRemenak | wegstar: if you add "#define HAVE_SDL_SDL_H 1" to config.h, does it work then? |
| 01:30.26 | wegstar | let me try... |
| 01:31.57 | wegstar | config.h is under..? |
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| 01:32.13 | wegstar | obstacle? ogl?platform? |
| 01:32.21 | DTRemenak | common? |
| 01:32.28 | wegstar | ok |
| 01:33.19 | Jormungandr | -directory <data-directory>, maybe my formats wrong, can someone give a axample |
| 01:33.35 | Legoguy | alright so clarify for me again how does one get his symbol to be @ without using /password |
| 01:34.13 | DTRemenak | Legoguy: have the BAN or SHORTBAN permissions |
| 01:34.19 | Legoguy | :-/ |
| 01:34.31 | Legoguy | so being in the default ADMIN group alone won't do it? |
| 01:34.35 | DTRemenak | it will |
| 01:34.39 | Legoguy | not here |
| 01:34.45 | DTRemenak | but it's not ADMIN anymore |
| 01:34.48 | DTRemenak | it's LOCAL.ADMIN |
| 01:34.51 | Legoguy | aha! |
| 01:35.00 | Legoguy | right |
| 01:35.03 | Legoguy | thx |
| 01:35.06 | DTRemenak | :) np |
| 01:35.08 | wegstar | DTRemenak:do I remove the includes I added? |
| 01:35.09 | wegstar | nvm |
| 01:35.11 | wegstar | that's a duh |
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| 01:35.52 | Jormungandr | Whats the data file by default on deb install."-directory <data-directory>" |
| 01:36.08 | wegstar | DTRemenak:yeah it works :) |
| 01:36.15 | DTRemenak | wegstar: cool :) |
| 01:36.25 | DTRemenak | that just means that lan56 installed SDL differently than you did |
| 01:36.34 | wegstar | oh... ok |
| 01:36.40 | DTRemenak | which probably means you followed the directions |
| 01:36.45 | DTRemenak | because I bet he didn't |
| 01:36.56 | wegstar | Is that a good thing? :) |
| 01:37.04 | TimpsonTexas | ? |
| 01:37.08 | DTRemenak | following directions is generally a good thing |
| 01:37.12 | wegstar | hehe |
| 01:37.15 | DTRemenak | TimpsonTexas: ! |
| 01:38.17 | wegstar | oh yeah.. config.h isn't under common |
| 01:38.18 | DTRemenak | heh |
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| 01:38.31 | DTRemenak | wegstar: uhh...where did he put it? |
| 01:38.41 | wegstar | in the Dev-C++ folder |
| 01:39.04 | DTRemenak | oh. I figured you were in Dev-C++ at the time |
| 01:39.21 | DTRemenak | there's a tree on the left, if you go to "Header Files"->common it should be there |
| 01:39.28 | wegstar | nope |
| 01:39.32 | DTRemenak | really... |
| 01:39.36 | Jormungandr | DTRemenak, you might know this one whats the data-file by default on the deb install? -directory <data-directory> |
| 01:39.48 | DTRemenak | Jormungandr: I don't do debian, sorry |
| 01:39.59 | DTRemenak | Jormungandr: when TimRiker comes around, ask him |
| 01:40.27 | Jormungandr | DTRemenak, hehe, the wait is to much:) the 2.0 i havnt seen yet, so im bouncing of the walls |
| 01:40.39 | DTRemenak | wegstar: sure enough, it's not anywhere in the project. sigh. |
| 01:41.09 | wegstar | :) |
| 01:41.32 | DTRemenak | Jormungandr: is there anything in /usr/share/bzflag ? |
| 01:41.58 | DTRemenak | particularly a "fonts" directory would be a good sign |
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| 01:44.59 | Jormungandr | There are mostly grafical, sound related things there |
| 01:45.53 | DTRemenak | yeah... is there a "fonts" directory |
| 01:46.25 | DTRemenak | or, better yet, is there anything in the fonts directory? |
| 01:46.57 | Jormungandr | no, the only dir there is the l10n dir |
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| 01:50.32 | Legoguy | DTRemenak: is it a good idea to use a shared groupdb/userdb/banfile/passdb between 5 simultaneously running servers? |
| 01:51.10 | DTRemenak | Jormungandr: then it didn't install right, probably |
| 01:51.41 | sgk284 | Legoguy, i would have to say yes... ban someone in one server and they are gone in all :) |
| 01:51.43 | Legoguy | my initial thoughts would be that it's more convenient, but then i got to thinking... they might not like other servers writing to the file without their knowledge |
| 01:51.54 | DTRemenak | Jormungandr: you can grab it from elsewhere...like if you grab the source package, extract it, copy the data/fonts dir to /usr/share/bzflag/fonts |
| 01:52.08 | DTRemenak | Jormungandr: but definately tell Tim about it. |
| 01:52.30 | DTRemenak | Legoguy: it may overwrite them, undoing the changes. I dunno. |
| 01:52.45 | DTRemenak | Legoguy: I use a shared userdb and groupdb between mine, seems to work fine |
| 01:52.52 | Jormungandr | DTRemenak, thanks for your help, ill tell tim if he comes around |
| 01:52.53 | DTRemenak | nbut I edit them by hand, not from within bzflag |
| 01:53.32 | brlcad | we're back into the top 50 rank on activity |
| 01:53.45 | brlcad | as of 15th |
| 01:56.31 | bryjen | crrrrrrash! |
| 01:57.07 | DTRemenak | bryjen: server took a dive? |
| 01:57.17 | bryjen | yup |
| 01:57.21 | DTRemenak | niiice |
| 01:57.23 | bryjen | Seg Fault |
| 01:57.34 | DTRemenak | get any debug info? |
| 01:57.42 | brlcad | woo hoo |
| 01:57.47 | brlcad | first crash post release |
| 01:58.22 | bryjen | no. its not a debug build, as this was 2.0.0.20050118- STABLE -linux-gnu-SDL |
| 01:58.36 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 01:58.37 | brlcad | heh |
| 01:59.01 | brlcad | i was only given three choices.. stable, maint, and devel |
| 01:59.44 | DTRemenak | therefore by elimination, all releases must be stable. good policy. |
| 01:59.55 | DTRemenak | that way we never have an unstable release :) |
| 01:59.59 | wegstar | when will sourceforge's read-only mode end? does anyone know?? |
| 02:00.04 | brlcad | riiight |
| 02:00.15 | brlcad | wegstar: 7 hours on and off |
| 02:00.24 | wegstar | oh |
| 02:00.39 | brlcad | well, 6 now |
| 02:02.27 | bryjen | hmm, there was --enable-kerberos in there too. left-overs |
| 02:03.13 | Jormungandr | brlcad, Do you know the default data dir for the deb install, its claiming that it cant find fonts |
| 02:03.48 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:03.50 | shorty114 | wow cable's slooooooow |
| 02:03.56 | shorty114 | 13.8 kb/s |
| 02:04.04 | blast007_ | there's a bug in the 2.0.0 release...if you turn off the control panel text by pressing the Shift+F1-F4 key, and then turn it back on, all the text gets garbled on one line |
| 02:04.06 | shorty114 | or maybe that's the mirror... |
| 02:04.15 | Jormungandr | hehe, yeah me a DT were to, so far no luck. |
| 02:04.54 | shorty114 | ah yes it's the mirrof |
| 02:04.56 | shorty114 | *mirror |
| 02:05.01 | shorty114 | oh nm |
| 02:05.04 | shorty114 | it's going down :( |
| 02:05.11 | shorty114 | everyone must be DLing |
| 02:05.15 | brlcad | looks like commit e-mailer was rather confused by the revision update |
| 02:05.21 | brlcad | no wonder it took so long |
| 02:05.26 | brlcad | it e-mailed the entire repository |
| 02:05.35 | shorty114 | ^.^ |
| 02:05.49 | bryjen | well, you changed the whole thing ;) |
| 02:05.59 | wegstar | heh |
| 02:06.07 | shorty114 | lol |
| 02:08.04 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/date/buildDate.cxx: er, DEVEL.. .2 is MAINT |
| 02:10.19 | bryjen | shouldn't CVS be .1 until an "official" MAINT release is done? |
| 02:12.19 | TimRiker | bryjen: there should not be any cvs commits happening now... just building. |
| 02:12.40 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery one.bzflag.org:5153 |
| 02:12.47 | SportChick | hrmmmm |
| 02:12.48 | TimRiker | ugh. |
| 02:12.49 | SportChick | this is odd: |
| 02:12.51 | wegstar | hmm |
| 02:13.10 | SportChick | someone was logged on (unregistered) with a name that was globally registered. It wasn't the same guy |
| 02:13.28 | SportChick | I thought global registration was supposed to prevent that |
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| 02:13.38 | bryjen | they should get a - beside their name |
| 02:13.50 | TimRiker | SportChick: not unless the server requires registration. |
| 02:14.10 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery one.bzflag.org:5153 |
| 02:14.16 | bryjen | it'll kick them if they try to start plaing if -requireidentify (or whatever) is set |
| 02:14.23 | *** part/#bzflag noyb (~noyb@wbar2.lax1-4-8-213-215.dsl-verizon.net) |
| 02:14.43 | bryjen | err, when they try to start playing |
| 02:14.57 | Jormungandr | Hey Tim, i was waiting to see what you thought of this: running debian, it installed, but whne i run it it clams to not find fonts |
| 02:14.57 | shorty114 | hmm |
| 02:15.19 | shorty114 | if shorty114 is in the bzbb, but isn't activated, can i still login to m.b.o? |
| 02:15.21 | TimRiker | Jormungandr: I'm building a ppc deb now to test here. |
| 02:15.43 | occy | TimRiker: who is in charge of the bzflag website? |
| 02:15.54 | wegstar | TimRiker.. |
| 02:15.59 | occy | heh |
| 02:16.00 | TimRiker | Jormungandr: I tested bzfs and bzadmin, but not bzflag. might have to do another deb upload if it's wrong. |
| 02:16.06 | Jormungandr | TimRiker, Well, i've talked with a guy claiming to run the 2.0 .deb with no problems online, so it could be a personal issue |
| 02:16.16 | occy | TimRiker: ever thought about giving it a theme overhaul? (I was the dude that started themes.org) |
| 02:16.21 | TimRiker | shorty114: probably. |
| 02:16.28 | occy | and linux.com (for whatever that's worth) -- nothing but... |
| 02:16.34 | shorty114 | TimRiker: ok. |
| 02:16.41 | TimRiker | occy: not today. |
| 02:16.54 | occy | TimRiker: I wouldn't mind helping out should you decide you want it updated ;) |
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| 02:18.34 | wegstar | heh |
| 02:20.36 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/ChangeLog: wishful thinking |
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| 02:21.49 | SportChick | Timriker: I was just on airbeth's server. I have a question. I know that they require registration. "junker" is registered on bzbb. Someone else was on ari's server with the name "Junker" and he was not registered or identified and was able to play. |
| 02:22.00 | SportChick | Tegan is here to answer any questions you have re: server settings. |
| 02:22.32 | SportChick | Tim: I guess I still need to ask the question - why/how is this happening? |
| 02:22.35 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/README: wishful thinking |
| 02:22.49 | brlcad | BZFlag2: ? |
| 02:23.01 | SportChick | bzflag 2: did you see my questions to timriker? |
| 02:23.05 | BZFlag2 | SportChick: is that junker registered locally? |
| 02:23.14 | SportChick | he's registered globally |
| 02:23.21 | SportChick | oh, junker or Junker? |
| 02:23.28 | SportChick | and is the bzbb registration case specific? |
| 02:23.51 | blast007_ | SportChick: registration should be case-insensitive, at least for not allowing duplicates |
| 02:24.03 | SportChick | junker is registered globally. Junker was playing without having identified - there was nothing by his name |
| 02:24.28 | Legoguy | is this normal for burrow!? http://turbogfx.homelinux.org/imgfiles/bzflag-ss/bzfi0003.png |
| 02:24.38 | BZFlag2 | SportChick: no. not case specific for local or global. |
| 02:24.51 | SportChick | BZFlag2: how can this happen then? |
| 02:25.08 | SportChick | tegan confirmed that the server had require identify enabled |
| 02:25.09 | Tegan | junker is not registered locally |
| 02:25.52 | Legoguy | is that effect supposed to happen for burrow? |
| 02:26.22 | blast007_ | Legoguy: Not that I'm aware of ;) |
| 02:26.36 | Legoguy | well it appears to happen that way :-/ |
| 02:26.36 | Tegan | Also, I am in ADMIN group, but do not have permission to do admin things until I use /password |
| 02:26.39 | Legoguy | lemme test some more |
| 02:26.53 | blast007_ | haven't tried burrow in a while |
| 02:27.47 | Jormungandr | Is bzadmin still working the same? |
| 02:27.57 | Jormungandr | It would have to change would'nt it |
| 02:28.28 | DTRemenak | Tegan: you are aware that ADMIN is now LOCAL.ADMIN, right? |
| 02:28.36 | DTRemenak | likewise REGISTERED is now VERIFIED |
| 02:28.51 | DTRemenak | and DEFAULT is EVERYONE |
| 02:28.52 | Legoguy | well i just did another test and it appears that that isn't just a random bug |
| 02:29.08 | DTRemenak | so if you're using the REQUIREIDENTIFY perm on DEFAULT, you need to move it to EVERYONE to work right. |
| 02:29.29 | Legoguy | DTRemenak: can you confirm that burrow is not supposed to look like that screenshot? |
| 02:29.42 | Legoguy | i don't know, maybe trepan wanted it to look that way |
| 02:29.43 | brlcad | BZFlag2: posted news to bb and sf, fyi |
| 02:29.45 | DTRemenak | Legoguy: ask trepan. looks like you're under the tank. |
| 02:29.50 | brlcad | Legoguy: that font's nice you got there ;) |
| 02:30.00 | Legoguy | brlcad: it's included in bzflag.. |
| 02:30.19 | brlcad | Legoguy: I know :) |
| 02:30.22 | Legoguy | :) |
| 02:30.45 | brlcad | blue is hard to read, though |
| 02:33.06 | Legoguy | it depends really |
| 02:33.13 | Legoguy | depends mostly on the background |
| 02:34.27 | blast007_ | http://omegadev.uni.cc/bug_1.jpg |
| 02:35.25 | Jormungandr | Wow I was wondering why I could not conect to the 1.11/2.0 servers, I was using bzadmin 1.6:) hehe |
| 02:35.51 | blast007_ | 1.6? |
| 02:35.53 | DTRemenak | blast007_: nice. :) |
| 02:36.24 | Jormungandr | yeah, they never realeased a 1.8 for linux(deb) I never got around to compiling it anyhow |
| 02:36.35 | blast007_ | DTRemenak: that bug is reproducable too, just need to press any of the Shift+F1-F4 twice |
| 02:36.50 | blast007_ | Jormungandr: there never was a 1.8 released at all |
| 02:37.12 | Jormungandr | 1.10.8 rether |
| 02:37.50 | blast007_ | ah, were you meaning 1.10.6 above, instead of 1.6? |
| 02:38.22 | Jormungandr | hehe, yes blast, you got me at my sleep deprived moment..:) |
| 02:38.27 | blast007_ | hehe |
| 02:39.01 | blast007_ | DTRemenak: also, that pic doesn't show how the tabs don't render right either |
| 02:39.07 | Jormungandr | yeah i remember that far back... I think i was here when they were running the 1.6 or so |
| 02:39.17 | blast007_ | after doing that Shift+F1 twice |
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| 02:43.26 | blast007 | silly ISP...drops me in the middle of a conversation ;) |
| 02:43.44 | Jormungandr | hehe |
| 02:43.52 | blast007 | what really is the point of being able to turn off just the text? i mean...we can turn off the whole control panel with a single key press |
| 02:47.23 | DTRemenak | bryjen: oops, we did it again :) |
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| 02:47.49 | DTRemenak | blast007: I really don't know |
| 02:47.55 | blast007 | k :) |
| 02:48.03 | bryjen | yup. was std(out|err) logging to file |
| 02:48.11 | blast007 | just seems like a useless feature that creating a bug |
| 02:48.25 | bryjen | ah, interesting |
| 02:48.32 | DTRemenak | blast007: when I threatened to take it out people screamed |
| 02:48.40 | blast007 | heh |
| 02:48.54 | bryjen | Last lines of output: |
| 02:48.56 | bryjen | Jan 17 20:46:46 bzflag logger: Player [2] resolved to hostname: adsl-68-95-184-5.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net |
| 02:48.58 | bryjen | Jan 17 20:46:46 bzflag logger: Player [2] removed at 2005-01-17 20:46:46: bannedhost for: spoogebob (23 Oct 2003) by bryjen |
| 02:49.42 | DTRemenak | ooh boy |
| 02:50.19 | bryjen | its a hostban on *.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net |
| 02:50.20 | cods | spooge is back in 2.0 ? :/ |
| 02:51.03 | bryjen | there may be legitamite players there |
| 02:51.18 | DTRemenak | yeah. it's the crash I'm more concerned about |
| 02:52.30 | brlcad | yeah :) |
| 02:52.44 | brlcad | funny though.. masterbans take servers down |
| 02:52.54 | brlcad | we're giving them more powerful tools every day :) |
| 02:53.06 | DTRemenak | it's not a master ban |
| 02:53.33 | DTRemenak | and last time it crashed it was right when someone disconnected |
| 02:53.48 | DTRemenak | I'm more interested in...say...a backtrace |
| 02:53.49 | bryjen | its from my local ban file |
| 02:54.02 | bryjen | i'll need gdb for that tho. |
| 02:54.40 | bryjen | not yet :() |
| 02:56.36 | *** part/#bzflag Tegan (~lyra@dsl081-067-057.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 02:58.35 | Thumper_ | SourceForge is up again |
| 02:58.37 | sgk284 | quick question about the new global scheme, as I understand it, there are global bans, who is in charge of that? |
| 02:58.53 | brlcad | Thumper_: thanks good to know |
| 02:58.57 | sgk284 | yea |
| 02:58.59 | bryjen | gdb'ed server spooling up |
| 02:59.23 | bryjen | ready |
| 03:00.36 | sgk284 | anyone know who moderates the global bans? |
| 03:00.38 | blast007 | sgk284: I think the masterban list is only modifyable via CVS, unless that changed |
| 03:00.47 | sgk284 | ahh okay:) thanks |
| 03:01.18 | SportChick | jeff: how do you make it rain frogs DOWN? they are floating |
| 03:01.34 | blast007 | negative rain speed? |
| 03:01.48 | blast007 | can't recall the variable for that |
| 03:01.59 | Jormungandr | Im curious, is it still possible to use old config files to run servers, or has enough changes to make it not compatible |
| 03:02.01 | sgk284 | SportChick, type /set |
| 03:02.01 | SportChick | is there one? |
| 03:02.06 | SportChick | set what? |
| 03:02.08 | sgk284 | it'll show you all the options |
| 03:02.13 | SportChick | ok |
| 03:02.13 | SportChick | thanks |
| 03:02.16 | sgk284 | then look for rainVelocity or something |
| 03:02.39 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.36 | DTRemenak | Jormungandr: old config files ought to work |
| 03:04.04 | bryjen | har. the frog "puddles" are red! |
| 03:06.37 | bryjen | hmm, global login recognition is slower. probly just gdb. |
| 03:07.19 | SportChick | bryjen: for some reason, I did tht and it made them float, I've never seen that before - they floated up like bubbles |
| 03:08.17 | bryjen | hmm. there's _rainSpeed, which may be up or down for positive or negative values |
| 03:09.21 | bryjen | ugh, setting the type doesn't update the other values as far as you can see with /set |
| 03:10.02 | blast007 | heh, "SourceForge.net is currently in read-only mode" |
| 03:11.46 | bryjen | i don't see a 2.0 secretplace |
| 03:11.56 | brlcad | oof, now there's a tough decision |
| 03:12.09 | orchid | how do you send mail to your self non interactively? mail -s TEST orchid@localhost ? |
| 03:12.35 | orchid | hmm, maybe mnutt can do that |
| 03:12.43 | orchid | or mutt |
| 03:12.48 | brlcad | for the background image.. go with showing off weather, complicated maps, or flying tanks |
| 03:13.42 | bryjen | flying tanks look just like jumping tanks in still pictures |
| 03:15.28 | brlcad | http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=3248&ssid=1125 |
| 03:15.42 | brlcad | versus http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=3248&ssid=351 |
| 03:16.06 | Legoguy | see, a cool effect for wings flag would be if wings actually sprouted from the tank when it was used |
| 03:16.38 | brlcad | versus http://db.bzflag.bz/tmp/aztec.jpg |
| 03:17.36 | bryjen | is the aztec thing even playable? |
| 03:17.41 | Jormungandr | Im messing around with bzadmin are there any 2.0 servers running present? |
| 03:18.00 | bryjen | more than 10. there are two pages in "Find Server" |
| 03:18.03 | Legoguy | Jormungandr: yes |
| 03:18.06 | Jormungandr | the 1.11's arnt compatible |
| 03:18.19 | Legoguy | Jormungandr: turbogfx.homelinux.org:5154 is up ;) |
| 03:18.33 | Jormungandr | Cool, thanks |
| 03:18.44 | bryjen | yes. I'm looking at the serverlist in the 2.0 client |
| 03:19.20 | Jormungandr | It's alive:) |
| 03:25.17 | brlcad | bryjen: it's quite playable |
| 03:25.50 | brlcad | so, of the three pics, which do you all tfind most impressive? :) |
| 03:26.05 | trepan | aztec could use a couple of speedups too, rework the meshes a bit |
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| 03:28.55 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/debian/rules: eep, fonts |
| 03:29.08 | sgk284 | trepan, the treesm and rocks map is real nice |
| 03:29.20 | trepan | sgk284: ya, the trees are from JeffM |
| 03:31.52 | brlcad | orchid: which OS? |
| 03:31.53 | trepan | there were hints of a Microserf's sequel :) |
| 03:31.56 | brlcad | er Jormungandr |
| 03:32.03 | brlcad | (sry orchid, wrong tab) |
| 03:32.14 | orchid | debian |
| 03:32.15 | bz0793 | ~bzfquery 24.214.100.137:5154 |
| 03:32.16 | orchid | Sid |
| 03:32.20 | brlcad | heh |
| 03:32.20 | *** part/#bzflag mac_and_cheese (~grantmul@user-0can32u.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 03:32.32 | BZFlag2 | debian package _is_ missing fonts. =( creating another. |
| 03:32.49 | Pizbit | There's a debian package now?:) |
| 03:33.00 | Jormungandr | yes |
| 03:33.00 | bz0793 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:33.11 | bz0793 | cool |
| 03:33.20 | *** join/#bzflag Timpson (~TimpsonTe@68.95.101.6) |
| 03:33.20 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 03:33.22 | Jormungandr | http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ |
| 03:33.28 | TimRiker | Pizbit: 2.0.0 has been submitted. it's also on http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ |
| 03:33.37 | TimRiker | but it's missing fonts at present. |
| 03:33.39 | bz0793 | ~bzfquery bzflag.buffaloebutt.com |
| 03:33.41 | brlcad | Jormungandr: huh? |
| 03:33.45 | Pizbit | *nods* I'll wait till there's some fonts. |
| 03:34.04 | bz0793 | ~bzfquery bzflag.buffaloebutt.com:5154 |
| 03:34.05 | Timpson | when will the mac version be out? |
| 03:34.23 | brlcad | Timpson: in probably about an hour or less |
| 03:34.31 | brlcad | putting it together still |
| 03:34.32 | Jormungandr | brlcad, I was reply to pizbit |
| 03:34.39 | Timpson | really, thx |
| 03:35.20 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/misc/bzfquery.pl: ws |
| 03:35.20 | Jormungandr | TimRiker, So there is a wide spread issue? |
| 03:35.56 | TimRiker | Jormungandr: huh? you mean the debian thing? no. just a mis-build of that package. |
| 03:36.46 | bz0793 | ~bzfquery bzflag.buffaloebutt.com:5154 |
| 03:36.47 | Jormungandr | TimRiker, ahh ok |
| 03:40.02 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery one.bzflag.org:5153 |
| 03:40.24 | brlcad | oh geez.. so hard to decide |
| 03:40.34 | brlcad | wings and aztec both look so good.. :( |
| 03:40.48 | trepan | hm, the larger profont characters have boxes around 'em |
| 03:41.19 | trepan | brlcad: could make a nice little map with the trees and rocks, with a reflective pool in the middle |
| 03:41.45 | Timpson | where can I go to find info on how to use IRC better. as far as messaging and so on? |
| 03:41.58 | Pizbit | Timpson: http://irchelp.org/ |
| 03:42.02 | Nidhoggr | heya timspson. |
| 03:42.06 | Timpson | thx :) |
| 03:42.11 | Nidhoggr | err timpson |
| 03:42.16 | Timpson | hello Nid |
| 03:42.28 | JBdiGriz | ~Nidhoggr |
| 03:42.30 | ibot | well, nidhoggr is a master of Typo Fu |
| 03:42.35 | Nidhoggr | I'm just finishing up a big batch of marmalade. |
| 03:42.40 | Timpson | hah |
| 03:42.42 | Nidhoggr | took about 3 hours |
| 03:42.48 | Timpson | i saw |
| 03:42.59 | Timpson | i keep wanting to type n first |
| 03:43.08 | Pizbit | Nidhoggr: How big? |
| 03:43.40 | Jormungandr | Timpson, Thats what they call extreme play:) |
| 03:43.56 | Nidhoggr | 12 cups. |
| 03:44.07 | Nidhoggr | so 12 1/2 pint jars. |
| 03:44.15 | Nidhoggr | for me, that's a big batch. |
| 03:44.28 | Nidhoggr | my last batch made 9 jars. |
| 03:44.32 | Timpson | people actually make quite a bit of fun of me because I do that a lot |
| 03:44.44 | orchid | -reportpipe mail -s report orchid@localhost < will that email me reports? |
| 03:45.07 | brlcad | trepan: that would be sweet, but I think aztec will do well |
| 03:45.19 | brlcad | it looks really nice |
| 03:45.42 | brlcad | (background is shrunk, so detail and colors impress) |
| 03:47.00 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: everyone is asking when sp |
| 03:47.09 | Nidhoggr | soonish |
| 03:47.09 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: sp's 2.0 is giong to be up |
| 03:47.22 | Nidhoggr | working on it after the marmalade comes out of the boilers. |
| 03:47.26 | SportChick | hrmph |
| 03:47.37 | Nidhoggr | like 10 minutes from now. :) |
| 03:47.38 | SportChick | bryjen: be nice or I'll plague you |
| 03:48.02 | trepan | brlcad: fixed the ProFont too, 10 secs with gimp's select by color |
| 03:48.30 | Nidhoggr | compiling now. |
| 03:49.42 | brlcad | but i am le tired |
| 03:50.04 | Nidhoggr | so take a nap THEN make the cool font! |
| 03:50.49 | brlcad | ~Nidhoggr++ |
| 03:50.55 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 03:51.12 | Nidhoggr | this marmalade is an experiment. |
| 03:51.16 | Nidhoggr | using ornamental oranges. |
| 03:51.20 | Nidhoggr | they are super sour. |
| 03:51.24 | Nidhoggr | like lemons |
| 03:51.28 | Nidhoggr | but are very orangy. |
| 03:53.14 | *** join/#bzflag alejandrodelloco (~alejandro@pcp02139122pcs.reston01.va.comcast.net) |
| 03:53.31 | Pizbit | TimRiker: Psst, there's a typo in the windows section, second to last line earlyer -> earlier :) |
| 03:55.51 | brlcad | heh |
| 03:59.10 | Nidhoggr | yay. all the marmalade sealed. no bad jars. |
| 03:59.18 | wegstar | heh |
| 04:04.59 | SportChick | is 2.0 not out yet for Mac? |
| 04:05.27 | Jormungandr | Not yet nor for win |
| 04:05.54 | blast007 | windows is out |
| 04:06.11 | Nidhoggr | also, timpson wont' be able to play until sgk finishes whitelist patch. |
| 04:06.30 | orchid | bad argument "-vetoTime" has that changed now? |
| 04:06.43 | Jormungandr | Windows 2.0 os out? |
| 04:06.47 | blast007 | orchid: might be a BZDB var |
| 04:06.55 | orchid | hm |
| 04:06.59 | orchid | ok |
| 04:07.05 | Pizbit | *twiddles thumbs* :D |
| 04:07.32 | blast007 | Windows Installer: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3248&package_id=3832&release_id=297768 |
| 04:08.05 | bryjen | you might need to quote that reportpipe "mail -s report orchid@localhost" or stuff the mail command in a one-liner shell script |
| 04:08.27 | cods | ahem.. "Kicked: Looks like you tried to shoot while paused.", last time it was because "I tried to fetch a flag while paused." |
| 04:08.43 | bryjen | well, stop cheating, cods ;) |
| 04:08.44 | Jormungandr | blast, all those mirrors claim not to have the file requested |
| 04:09.10 | SportChick | did anyone figure out why "Junker" was able to play earlier on a server that required identification when "junker" (a different player) is registered on bzbb |
| 04:09.30 | blast007 | Jormungandr: 1 sec |
| 04:09.35 | Nidhoggr | sp 2.0 is up on 5255. |
| 04:09.38 | bryjen | case sensitive usernames? |
| 04:09.46 | SportChick | finally! |
| 04:09.48 | Jormungandr | woot!:) |
| 04:09.51 | JBdiGriz | brlcad: Is the xcode project back? |
| 04:10.07 | Pizbit | Jormungandr: sf is in 'read only mode' |
| 04:10.07 | Nidhoggr | finally? impatient, ungrateful brats! :) |
| 04:10.13 | bryjen | Hi there, JBdiGriz |
| 04:10.21 | JBdiGriz | Heya |
| 04:10.25 | Jormungandr | lol nid:) |
| 04:10.40 | purple_cow | wowie |
| 04:10.43 | JBdiGriz | Nidhoggr: Some people don't understand the importance of marmalade. |
| 04:10.54 | Nidhoggr | no doubt |
| 04:10.54 | purple_cow | i just realized that my only contribution to this was that textutils madness and the .desktop :) |
| 04:11.08 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: that must be why you made me an admin on your server - I fit right in! |
| 04:11.22 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 04:11.48 | SportChick | I assume 1.11.38/41, etc. won't work, right nid? |
| 04:11.54 | Nidhoggr | dunno |
| 04:11.57 | Nidhoggr | ask THEM |
| 04:11.57 | bryjen | purple_cow: but without the .desktop, the program cannot be started, so it's the most important part, no? :) |
| 04:11.58 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 04:12.42 | trepan | SportChick: nope, it's a new protocol, gotsta be 2.0 |
| 04:12.57 | purple_cow | bryjen: obviously |
| 04:13.14 | Thumper_ | trepan: Are your bzflag test map world files available anywhere? |
| 04:13.16 | blast007 | http://osdn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/bzflag/bzflag-2.0.0.exe |
| 04:13.23 | trepan | Thumper_: nope |
| 04:13.30 | SportChick | windows has been out for a while |
| 04:13.59 | TimRiker | new debian is up on http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ |
| 04:14.02 | Jormungandr | Hmm, does bzadmin not force identification? |
| 04:14.16 | TimRiker | Jormungandr: force? |
| 04:14.18 | Nidhoggr | bzadmin requires user:pass@server:port |
| 04:14.23 | Nidhoggr | if you want global |
| 04:14.24 | Pizbit | TimRiker: Thanks:) |
| 04:14.28 | Thumper_ | trepan: I forgot to save a copy of Rocks and Trees :/ It was a nice map :D |
| 04:14.32 | TimRiker | Pizbit: np. ;-) |
| 04:15.06 | blast007 | well, I should get some sleep...start the next semester tomorrow ;) |
| 04:15.08 | blast007 | g'night |
| 04:15.24 | Jormungandr | TimRiker, for registered users to login, |
| 04:15.32 | Jormungandr | Nidhoggr, sp not globel right now? |
| 04:15.40 | Nidhoggr | it should be. |
| 04:15.48 | Nidhoggr | I just got on with global |
| 04:15.53 | Jormungandr | I connected with just my username |
| 04:15.56 | Thumper_ | ok TimRiker changes DEFAULT -> EVERYONE right? so should I s/DEFAULT/EVERYONE/ in my user database file? |
| 04:16.04 | Thumper_ | changed* |
| 04:16.20 | Nidhoggr | did you do bzadmin Jormungandr:password@bzflag.secretplace.us:5255? |
| 04:16.34 | Jormungandr | bzadmin Jormungandr@bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 04:16.57 | Jormungandr | Didnt include the pass |
| 04:17.18 | blast007_away | can't you just run bzadmin without any paramaters? I think it prompts you for stuff |
| 04:17.30 | Jormungandr | yes u can |
| 04:19.02 | Thumper_ | hmmm EVERYONE seems to be in there already but so is DEFAULT |
| 04:19.02 | Thumper_ | Can I safely remove DEFAULT now ? |
| 04:21.12 | cods | good question :) |
| 04:21.55 | *** join/#bzflag Timpson (~TimpsonTe@68.95.101.6) |
| 04:22.17 | brlcad | JBdiGriz: it is back |
| 04:22.30 | alejandrodelloco | hello |
| 04:23.38 | brlcad | JBdiGriz: it's going to assume that you've installed the SDL framework in /Library/Frameworks/., but otherwise should do the deed |
| 04:24.29 | Timpson | I'm dying, is the Mac version set up yet? |
| 04:24.55 | Pizbit | woo |
| 04:25.00 | Pizbit | It looks so much nicer;) |
| 04:25.06 | brlcad | Timpson: no, i'm spending about 30 seconds of every minute answering questiongs :) |
| 04:26.13 | Timpson | they made me do it |
| 04:26.23 | Timpson | SportChick and all her buddies :) |
| 04:26.40 | brlcad | mmhmm |
| 04:26.49 | SportChick | ~fishslap Timpson |
| 04:26.51 | ibot | ACTION slaps Timpson up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 04:27.13 | Timpson | hate that smell |
| 04:27.16 | Timpson | thx |
| 04:28.15 | bryjen | never malign a woman packin' a fish ;) |
| 04:28.24 | TimRiker | Thumper_: yes. make sure that EVERYONE has the corrert perms in your groupdb before removing DEFAULT |
| 04:29.07 | Thumper_ | thx TimRiker :) |
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| 04:41.27 | jpa- | whooooo! |
| 04:41.30 | jpa- | yeah! |
| 04:41.34 | *** part/#bzflag wegstar (~wegstar@adsl-67-121-168-66.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 04:41.54 | *** join/#bzflag wegstar (~wegstar@adsl-67-121-168-66.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 04:41.59 | jpa- | thankyou TimRiker brlcad DTRemenak and the other not to be remembered |
| 04:42.08 | wegstar | hmm? |
| 04:42.17 | jpa- | for 2.0 :) |
| 04:42.22 | wegstar | ah.. |
| 04:43.02 | wegstar | is sf.net still down? |
| 04:43.03 | brlcad | jpa-: you're welcome, thank you too |
| 04:43.23 | wegstar | It has been a long day...:) |
| 04:45.12 | orchid | ~bzfquery one.bzflag.org:5153 |
| 04:45.37 | orchid | ~bzfquery bzgirl.bzflag.org:7000 |
| 04:46.41 | MeBigFatGuy | hmm, i think random worlds should have received a minor face lift |
| 04:46.43 | jpa- | mirrors keep failing |
| 04:46.53 | MeBigFatGuy | add a few domes or something |
| 04:47.57 | jpa- | i cant download from sf! |
| 04:48.59 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10bzflag/src/bzadmin/bzadmin.cxx: wipe out argv[] to trivially hide password, don't re-display it while connecting |
| 04:49.24 | jpa- | and www.bzflag.org still says 1.10.8 |
| 04:50.03 | jpa- | and wiki too |
| 04:50.15 | TimRiker | jpa-: use the builds dir then... http://my.BZFlag.org/builds/1.11/ |
| 04:51.14 | jpa- | there is no source :( |
| 04:51.26 | jpa- | and is 2.0.0 and 1.11.41 combatible? |
| 04:51.32 | TimRiker | easy to fix... |
| 04:51.38 | TimRiker | no |
| 04:51.53 | jpa- | so, we do not have windows version yet? |
| 04:52.02 | jpa- | ok, i will be back in a few hours |
| 04:52.04 | jpa- | g2g |
| 04:52.09 | sgk284 | cya |
| 04:54.13 | brlcad | Mac builds are posted to http://bzflag.bz/builds/2.0/ until sf.net comes back on-line |
| 04:54.26 | brlcad | s/builds/build/ |
| 04:54.41 | SportChick | I'm getting lag warnings at 49ms when the lagwarn is at 500 ms. Even hve been kicked |
| 04:55.33 | brlcad | I'd appreciate if someone can tell me if that .dmg works okay for you and if you see the background image |
| 04:58.42 | sgk284 | src/bzlag/bzflag |
| 04:58.53 | sgk284 | well thats not gonna work... |
| 04:58.54 | MeBigFatGuy | 22m? i let you know in tomorrow afternoon sometime |
| 04:58.58 | sgk284 | :) |
| 04:59.58 | Nidhoggr | definitely a lag problem. |
| 05:00.18 | TimRiker | jpa-: added .tar.gz and tar.bz2 on http://bzflag.bz/builds/1.11/ |
| 05:00.35 | Nidhoggr | downloading now, brlcad |
| 05:00.53 | TimRiker | er make that... http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ =) |
| 05:00.55 | purple_cow | well, that reminded me why i dislike WG |
| 05:01.01 | purple_cow | but smashing job you guys :) |
| 05:01.09 | TimRiker | WG? |
| 05:01.21 | purple_cow | wings |
| 05:01.29 | TimRiker | ah. ;-) |
| 05:02.12 | Nidhoggr | background image is fun, brlcad |
| 05:02.49 | Nidhoggr | 'cept the binary isn't running on my powerbook. |
| 05:04.59 | TimRiker | how come .dmg's are some big? close to 30M each. |
| 05:05.33 | Nidhoggr | brlcad: console says "No fonts found (the -directory option may help). Exiting" |
| 05:06.39 | jpa- | TimRiker: thx |
| 05:07.16 | brlcad | hrm |
| 05:07.31 | Nidhoggr | the fonts dir is there in Resources. |
| 05:07.43 | brlcad | size is being fixed |
| 05:07.48 | brlcad | that wasn't a compressed dmg |
| 05:07.49 | Privia | brlcad: works fine for me, BG looks sharp too :) |
| 05:07.54 | brlcad | uploading compressed now |
| 05:08.04 | triclops | brlcad: works here too |
| 05:08.17 | Nidhoggr | maybe I need to delete my .bz folder |
| 05:08.43 | brlcad | TimRiker: compressed is actually 10MB .. larger by 2-3 MB to bundle SDL inside the application |
| 05:08.50 | Nidhoggr | same thing. |
| 05:09.24 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: did you run one of the beta's with -directory? |
| 05:09.28 | brlcad | or a cvs version? |
| 05:09.31 | Nidhoggr | yes |
| 05:09.47 | brlcad | then try deleting/moving your config out of the way |
| 05:10.24 | Nidhoggr | where is config now? I rm -rf'd .bzf |
| 05:10.44 | brlcad | ~/Library/Application\ Support/BZFlag/2.0 ;) |
| 05:11.00 | Nidhoggr | aaah. |
| 05:12.05 | brlcad | would make more sense to have the config in Preferences folder, but it's nice keeping it all together like the other plats |
| 05:12.29 | brlcad | and the rest does belong in app support |
| 05:16.42 | TimRiker | bzflag.org news posted. wiki download page updates for win, source, and debian. |
| 05:19.10 | brlcad | would one of the Mac OS X folk try the new dmg again? |
| 05:19.13 | brlcad | same place |
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| 05:22.53 | Pimpinella | congrats for release devs |
| 05:23.33 | *** join/#bzflag Silver[a] (SilverFox@68-116-47-254.or.charter.com) |
| 05:29.06 | sgk284 | heh perhaps its too soon to start talkign about new features:) |
| 05:31.34 | sgk284 | before i go off to bed i just want to thank all the developers for all their hard work in putting out this release... most of you are probably away right now and won't ever see this, but your efforts are much appreciated. Thanks again. |
| 05:33.44 | Silver[a] | I'm having trouble downloading Win32 ver from sf, is it just me? |
| 05:36.24 | JeffM2501 | maint window |
| 05:38.20 | *** part/#bzflag orchid (orchid@orchid.user) |
| 05:38.45 | wegstar | Silver: i'm having problems downloading stuff too... that is not related to Bzflag :( |
| 05:39.46 | *** join/#bzflag Aribeth (~Aribeth@dsl081-067-057.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 05:40.16 | Pimpinella | does group VERIFIED apply to both locally or globally verified users? |
| 05:42.44 | Pizbit | Hrm, there are a *lot* of forums on the forum(does that even make any sense) |
| 05:43.05 | Pimpinella | explain |
| 05:46.03 | TimRiker | Pimpinella: yes. VERIFIED is either. |
| 05:46.18 | Pimpinella | t |
| 05:46.20 | Pimpinella | ty |
| 05:46.25 | TimRiker | n |
| 05:46.28 | TimRiker | np |
| 05:46.35 | Pimpinella | ;P |
| 05:46.43 | TimRiker | 8) |
| 05:46.50 | brlcad | JeffM2501: you have a win32 binary I could post? |
| 05:47.48 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 05:48.00 | brlcad | k |
| 05:48.02 | JeffM2501 | want me to make one? |
| 05:48.05 | Pimpinella | about the win32 binaries, must the My Bzflag Files directory still be deleted? |
| 05:48.39 | JeffM2501 | you soundn't have to |
| 05:50.18 | JBdiGriz | brlcad: The mac binary isn't just running on my system |
| 05:50.39 | *** join/#bzflag Silver1 (SilverFox@68-116-47-254.or.charter.com) |
| 05:50.50 | Silver1 | I'm having trouble downloading Win32 ver from sf, is it just me? |
| 05:50.51 | JeffM2501 | brlcad: want me to make you one? |
| 05:51.05 | JeffM2501 | sf is doing maintance now |
| 05:51.09 | JeffM2501 | its' not just you |
| 05:51.13 | Silver1 | ah, |
| 05:51.14 | brlcad | oh, i know |
| 05:51.25 | brlcad | 7 hours .. halfway done |
| 05:51.54 | JeffM2501 | is that a yes or a no? |
| 05:52.04 | brlcad | JeffM2501: don't have to |
| 05:52.07 | brlcad | nah, but thanks |
| 05:52.15 | JeffM2501 | I can |
| 05:52.16 | JeffM2501 | but ok |
| 05:57.20 | jpa- | hello again :) |
| 05:57.26 | JBdiGriz | Removing the config file helps ;) |
| 05:57.47 | jpa- | Silver1: http://norang.ca/bzflag-2.0.0.exe |
| 05:58.16 | Silver1 | jpa, thanks! |
| 05:59.18 | jpa- | np, thank thumper |
| 06:00.05 | TimRiker | someone should put up a torrent server. ;-) |
| 06:01.08 | jpa- | yup :) |
| 06:01.18 | jpa- | thumpers net will get crashed soon :) |
| 06:03.02 | bryjen | ~bzflist |
| 06:03.04 | TimRiker | I'm putting one on the increasingly misnamed http://my.BZFlag.org/builds/1.11/ |
| 06:04.02 | brlcad | mirroring that .exe at http://bzflag.bz/builds/2.0/ as well |
| 06:04.37 | jpa- | i can mirror too, if necessary and someone will link to me :) |
| 06:05.19 | *** part/#bzflag wegstar (~wegstar@adsl-67-121-168-66.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 06:05.43 | TimRiker | jpa-: feel free to add a link on the wiki downloads page. |
| 06:05.50 | jpa- | njah |
| 06:06.17 | jpa- | too much to do now, and i assume sf will be up by the time i had time |
| 06:09.19 | jpa- | compiling new bzflag.. |
| 06:09.25 | jpa- | on three machines :) |
| 06:10.11 | jpa- | Noodleman: brlcads link |
| 06:10.18 | jpa- | http://bzflag.bz/builds/2.0/ |
| 06:10.30 | Noodleman | w00t, thanks |
| 06:11.02 | jpa- | real 2m18.081s |
| 06:11.10 | jpa- | bzflag 2.0.0 server compilation :) |
| 06:11.28 | Noodleman | this better r0x0r my s0x0r |
| 06:11.36 | brlcad | my.b.o has the mac dmg now too |
| 06:11.46 | brlcad | Noodleman: http://bzflag.bz/builds/2.0/ |
| 06:12.04 | brlcad | or http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ whatever suits your fancy |
| 06:12.46 | *** join/#bzflag wegstar (~wegstar@adsl-67-121-168-66.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 06:12.54 | Silver1 | found a bug me thinks. |
| 06:13.22 | Silver1 | pressing Shift F1-F4 should change between the tabs, right? |
| 06:13.39 | Silver1 | it does, but it seems to display all lines overlapped on the bottom line. |
| 06:13.49 | Silver1 | Win32 client on secretplace. |
| 06:13.55 | Silver1 | Other players reported the same. |
| 06:14.29 | Pimpinella | the keys for roaming cant be set from the gui? |
| 06:15.11 | *** join/#bzflag DarthValou (~none@lsn-boi-catv-c114-p068.vtx.ch) |
| 06:15.36 | trepan | Silver1: ya, been reported, only seems to happen to me when I double-press the shift-Fx keys |
| 06:15.47 | Silver1 | one player doesn't have this problem, but he is using higher display quality. |
| 06:16.05 | Silver1 | trepan, consistent for me. |
| 06:16.15 | Silver1 | dunno if that's why he's ok though. |
| 06:18.32 | Noodleman | dang, this client doesn't like me so well |
| 06:18.38 | Noodleman | i only get about 10 FPS |
| 06:18.47 | Pizbit | heh |
| 06:18.56 | Pizbit | How do oyu see the fps? |
| 06:18.57 | brlcad | Noodleman: a lot of the new maps are very intense |
| 06:19.04 | trepan | Pizbit: 't' |
| 06:19.16 | trepan | Noodleman: setup? map? |
| 06:19.21 | bryjen | pressing the same Shift-Fx (or the one i'm already on) eithr blanks the console or make all its text overprint on the last line. using F1 to window/unwindow fixes it |
| 06:19.33 | orange | f1 doesn't do anything on mine (linux) |
| 06:19.39 | bryjen | eh, pressing the same one multile times |
| 06:19.41 | Pizbit | Ah cool |
| 06:19.43 | Silver1 | hmm... |
| 06:19.46 | orange | I mean to say, it doesn't fix it, but it doesn't do anything else either :-) |
| 06:20.14 | Pizbit | http://img71.exs.cx/img71/7756/bzfi00034ba.png |
| 06:20.26 | Pizbit | That's the bug right there:) |
| 06:21.08 | bryjen | foo. s/multile/multiple/ |
| 06:21.19 | TimRiker | orange: you mean shirt-f1, yes? |
| 06:21.20 | orange | bryjen: it happens to me on the first press, fyi |
| 06:21.31 | Pimpinella | Noodleman: turning off smoothing helped me a lot |
| 06:21.32 | orange | TimRiker: yes, to cause the bug... some have suggested f1 alone fixes it |
| 06:21.38 | TimRiker | ah |
| 06:21.46 | orange | for me f1 alone is a noop |
| 06:21.51 | Silver1 | In bzflag, I've always had a problem playing with the keyboard because my keyboard doesn't like more than two simultaneous keypresses. To get around this, I shoot with the touchpad button, which helps a bit. If I want to jump forward and turn, I would hold up and right (or left), then release one almost exactly as I press tab. |
| 06:21.55 | Pizbit | orange: Yeah, hitting F1 toggles the window mode and sorts it out |
| 06:22.02 | bryjen | if you're pressing Shift-F1 first, that's the tab you start on (hence the one you're already on) |
| 06:22.12 | orange | bryjen: oh, good point, I'll try f2 first |
| 06:22.16 | orange | (s-f2) |
| 06:22.19 | Silver1 | in 2.0, when I do this, I either jump straight forward or straight up while turning, but I can't do both. Any tweak to get around this? |
| 06:22.32 | orange | Pizbit: I run in windowed mode with the -window flag, which may explain why f1 is a noop for me |
| 06:22.44 | Pizbit | Ah ok. |
| 06:23.00 | bryjen | F1 should un-window you (goto fullscreen) if you started -window |
| 06:23.33 | orange | bryjen: you are correct... hitting the key to go to the tab you are on is the culprite... my bad |
| 06:23.36 | Pizbit | Ok |
| 06:23.49 | orange | dunno why, but f1 doesn't do that for me... it's OK, I don't want to be non-windowed :-) |
| 06:23.53 | Pizbit | It seems that if you try to hit shift+F<number you're already on> the bug occurs. |
| 06:23.57 | orange | s/culprite/culprit/ -- sheesh |
| 06:24.08 | bryjen | orange: bzflag -version ? |
| 06:24.26 | orange | BZFlag client 2.0.0.20050118-STABLE-linux-gnu-SDL (protocol 0026) http://BZFlag.org/ |
| 06:24.29 | bryjen | (looking for SDL or not) |
| 06:24.53 | orange | I can link against a newer SDL, let me try that |
| 06:25.12 | bryjen | hmm. thought lack of SDL might be the cause of the lack of fullscreen toggle |
| 06:26.20 | orange | oh, I wouldn't chase that one... it's possible that somewhere along the line I've remapped it or something... or perhaps -window on the command line locks it out |
| 06:26.36 | orange | well, do what you want, but it's likely something dumb I've done rather than a bug, is what I mean :-) |
| 06:27.06 | bryjen | i know F1 works after starting with -window ( at least it does here :) ) |
| 06:28.32 | bryjen | you can look in your options->input->key mapping menu, fullscreen is in the lower right |
| 06:31.00 | orange | (still recompiling against a different SDL) |
| 06:31.26 | orange | and I'll just nuke my config and start clean when it's done |
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| 06:33.14 | nilson | Can I get a screenshot of someone with BZF2.0 and ProFont please? |
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| 06:33.48 | brlcad | heya Quol |
| 06:33.49 | Pizbit | nilson: boo |
| 06:34.00 | Quol | hey brlcad |
| 06:34.20 | orange | SportChick: did I hear you say you have an ice-cream maker? |
| 06:34.23 | Quol | just cheking out Gaim to see if it sucks less :) |
| 06:34.43 | brlcad | looks like Pizbit's bug has something to do with font height .. the tabs are supposed to be the height of the calculated font size |
| 06:34.55 | brlcad | DTRemenak: *poke* |
| 06:36.09 | bryjen | ah, there he is... comments about tabs... er, tabs as in horizontal white space tho |
| 06:36.26 | bryjen | ~seen DTRemenak |
| 06:36.34 | ibot | dtremenak is currently on #bzflag. Has said a total of 158 messages. Is idling for 3h 32m 58s |
| 06:36.35 | Silver1 | is bzadmin compiled seperately from bzfs? |
| 06:37.25 | MeBigFatGuy | on win32, no |
| 06:37.38 | MeBigFatGuy | separate projects, but same 'solution' |
| 06:37.50 | MeBigFatGuy | shares some common libs |
| 06:38.20 | Quol | hmm - brb |
| 06:38.22 | *** part/#bzflag Quol (~Ian@modemcable103.129-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 06:39.23 | Silver1 | When I run ./configure, I see a few things including: |
| 06:39.24 | jpa- | hmm |
| 06:39.27 | Silver1 | libcurl disabled - MOTD, global bans, etc. disabled |
| 06:39.31 | Silver1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:39.58 | jpa- | bzfs 2.0 complains about broken objects |
| 06:40.04 | brlcad | wow, over 8 months since last release |
| 06:40.12 | Silver1 | 1st, I ran ./configure --enable-curl, and I have libcurl3-dev on my debian box, so what's the problem? Am I missing something? |
| 06:40.33 | Silver1 | 2nd, doesn't bzadmin compile by default? |
| 06:40.42 | orange | bryjen: still no f1, rebuilt with newest SDL (downloaded a release < 7 days ago, anyway) |
| 06:40.51 | brlcad | Silver1: 1) run curl-config |
| 06:40.52 | orange | (default config) |
| 06:40.54 | bryjen | bzadmin needs ncurses |
| 06:40.57 | jpa- | only on other computer.. |
| 06:41.03 | brlcad | 2) it'll compile if the client compiles |
| 06:41.20 | Pizbit | Silver1: I have the same problem, gave up and used the deb |
| 06:41.34 | Silver1 | jpa-, I have ncurses installed. |
| 06:41.40 | Pizbit | Silver1: The debian package http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ |
| 06:41.48 | Silver1 | there's a deb for 2.0? Does it include bzfs? |
| 06:42.00 | Pizbit | Seperate packages |
| 06:42.06 | Pizbit | But they're there |
| 06:42.10 | orange | bryjen: scratch that, something is odd |
| 06:42.36 | orange | it seems bzflag imported some stuff from my old config |
| 06:43.05 | jpa- | hmm |
| 06:43.05 | Silver1 | Pizbit, cool. |
| 06:43.25 | jpa- | on the other server i get incomplete object error |
| 06:43.29 | jpa- | on the other i do not |
| 06:43.30 | bryjen | there's a "reset defaults" in the keymapping screen that may help |
| 06:43.34 | Silver1 | orange, same thing happened to me. wouldn't run, complained about a font directory. Deleted the bzflag conf dir, and it was good to go. |
| 06:43.38 | jpa- | both are same version |
| 06:44.27 | orange | bryjen: f1 works now... told you it was something dumb I was doing |
| 06:45.21 | bryjen | jpa-: ldd /path/to/bzfs |
| 06:46.14 | jpa- | bryjen: ? |
| 06:46.23 | jpa- | bryjen: what does that information tell |
| 06:46.31 | jpa- | all the links are ok |
| 06:46.39 | jpa- | or dynamic libs |
| 06:46.43 | bryjen | on linux, ldd lists libraries used be a program |
| 06:46.56 | bryjen | s/be/by |
| 06:47.10 | jpa- | i compiled it separately, other has libcurl, other does not |
| 06:47.17 | jpa- | the "does not" one works |
| 06:47.28 | Silver1 | how would I compile just bzadmin |
| 06:48.23 | jpa- | the world is at http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/river.bzw |
| 06:49.04 | jpa- | lines it complains are: 316 327 338 349 360 373 562 573 584 595 606 618 |
| 06:49.12 | bryjen | ah. incomplete _world_ object. not incomplete _program_ object :) |
| 06:49.20 | jpa- | yup |
| 06:49.29 | jpa- | :) |
| 06:49.55 | jpa- | transferring bzfs binary now |
| 06:51.45 | jpa- | for no use |
| 06:51.51 | jpa- | missing libs |
| 06:52.00 | jpa- | ok.. compiling without curl |
| 06:52.37 | SportChick | orange: yes |
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| 06:54.37 | jpa- | oh |
| 06:54.40 | jpa- | found prob :) |
| 06:54.54 | jpa- | install dir probs :P |
| 06:55.06 | orange | SportChick: which model, just out of curiosity, and do you like it? |
| 06:57.24 | SportChick | orange: it was a christmas gift. It's a cuisinart ice20 (yogurt, sherbert & ice cream maker). Yes we like it |
| 06:58.53 | *** part/#bzflag Quol (~Quol@modemcable103.129-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 07:00.24 | jomojo | okay all i can not see the tanks on the radar in 2.0 well i can but they are much smaller on my screen than they were in 1.10... anyway to make them bigger i am literally squinting trying to see the tanks on my radar screen |
| 07:01.11 | jpa- | hmm |
| 07:01.21 | jpa- | how do i install bzfs under a normal user? |
| 07:01.29 | jpa- | it keeps complaining imcomplete objects |
| 07:01.38 | jpa- | i think it can't find its data |
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| 07:08.18 | jpa- | hmph |
| 07:08.25 | jpa- | why are my objects incomplete? |
| 07:09.28 | jpa- | works fine on other computer, installed globally |
| 07:09.36 | jpa- | other, installed locally, does not work |
| 07:10.32 | jomojo | okay what gives people... after my flag is captured if i am already dead i don't spawn on base... but rather in the middle of the field... |
| 07:11.28 | jpa- | it seems complaining on totatally random lines with matref |
| 07:13.43 | jpa- | does the server work with --disable-client |
| 07:14.17 | Quol | jpa - yes, it does |
| 07:14.32 | jpa- | but.. |
| 07:14.42 | jpa- | i think it does not find textures etc. |
| 07:14.47 | jpa- | while it shouldnt need them |
| 07:14.59 | jpa- | it complains on objects with matref |
| 07:15.04 | jpa- | on other computer |
| 07:15.17 | jpa- | that i compiled with --prefix=/home/users/jpa/bzfs |
| 07:15.21 | Quol | the server? the client is the one that has the textures- not the server... |
| 07:15.33 | jpa- | same map on other computer works |
| 07:15.51 | jpa- | only differences left anymore are the local install thing and that other has client |
| 07:16.04 | Quol | I use --disable-client on all my builds - never had a problem... |
| 07:16.34 | jpa- | yup |
| 07:16.39 | jpa- | so.. it should work |
| 07:16.42 | jpa- | but |
| 07:16.45 | jpa- | why does it not? |
| 07:16.52 | Quol | what OS - are both PC's the same |
| 07:16.54 | Quol | ? |
| 07:16.55 | Noodleman | froggie rain ROCKS |
| 07:17.33 | jpa- | Quol: both are debian, other unstable, other stable |
| 07:17.38 | jpa- | unstable works |
| 07:17.57 | jpa- | without matrefs it works fine |
| 07:18.24 | Quol | hmm - don't know... |
| 07:18.38 | jpa- | 08:48:25 < jpa-> the world is at http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/river.bzw |
| 07:18.38 | jpa- | 08:49:05 < jpa-> lines it complains are: 316 327 338 349 360 373 562 573 584 595 606 618 |
| 07:18.47 | jpa- | does someone see a pattern in them? |
| 07:18.52 | Quol | you using debian's package management thingy - or are you using source? |
| 07:19.09 | jpa- | source |
| 07:19.31 | jpa- | on the one not working, i do not have root access |
| 07:19.42 | Quol | same server version on both? |
| 07:19.45 | jpa- | yup |
| 07:19.56 | jpa- | BZFlag server 2.0.0.20050118-STABLE-linux-gnu (protocol 0026) http://BZFlag.org/ |
| 07:20.43 | jpa- | (same source package too) |
| 07:22.06 | Quol | I guess I should update my servers to version 2 also :) |
| 07:27.15 | brlcad | mm.. nasty bugs |
| 07:27.37 | Quol | hmm - I can't download version 2 from sourceforge...mirrors are not in synch yet |
| 07:27.41 | jpa- | brlcad: any suggestions why i cant get that to work? |
| 07:27.47 | jpa- | Quol: yup, see topic |
| 07:27.57 | jpa- | Quol: 1.11 builds page server :) |
| 07:28.02 | jpa- | -r+s |
| 07:28.41 | TimRiker | Quol: http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ |
| 07:28.56 | TimRiker | ~dinfo bzflag |
| 07:29.18 | Quol | ahh - thanks TimRiker and jpa |
| 07:29.33 | orange | anybody drive into their own shots using agility yet other than me? ;-) |
| 07:29.42 | SilverFox | hehe |
| 07:29.46 | SilverFox | I've done that. |
| 07:29.48 | SilverFox | wierd. |
| 07:29.56 | jpa- | TimRiker: have you ever been out? "Tim Riker: why is the rain only on the lower area?" the rain comes from clouds :) |
| 07:30.03 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/BUGS: CTF team capture results in players respawning mid-map instead of on the base |
| 07:30.22 | orange | oh, I thought that was intentional, brlcad |
| 07:30.24 | TimRiker | jpa-: =) |
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| 07:30.47 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:31.01 | jpa- | oh, i havent known that :) |
| 07:31.40 | jpa- | oh :) |
| 07:31.42 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/BUGS: pressing SHIFT+F[1-4] results in Console text collapsing into a single line. |
| 07:31.53 | jpa- | hmphmhpm |
| 07:32.11 | jpa- | why does bzfs complain on totally random lines for incompatible objects |
| 07:32.45 | jpa- | http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/errors-river.txt |
| 07:32.52 | jpa- | # end |
| 07:32.58 | jpa- | is that a incomplete object? |
| 07:33.58 | bryjen | uhm, shoudl the # comment be there? the next line starts a teleporter object? |
| 07:34.09 | jpa- | no, it is not in order |
| 07:34.22 | jpa- | http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/river.bzw is the map |
| 07:35.00 | jpa- | those are the lines it reports warning (line foo): discarding incomplete object |
| 07:36.09 | jpa- | (lines 316 327 338 349 360 373 562 573 584 595 606 618) |
| 07:36.52 | bryjen | are you awake, trepan ? |
| 07:37.18 | trepan | barely |
| 07:37.39 | jpa- | after removing lot other stuff, leaving those lines, it works |
| 07:38.03 | trepan | the map in that last link works fine for me |
| 07:38.20 | trepan | a least in terms of parsing |
| 07:38.32 | jpa- | yes |
| 07:38.38 | jpa- | but not on locally installed bzfs |
| 07:38.40 | jpa- | -> away |
| 07:38.41 | bryjen | the being ... end block style is easy to mess up. needs { } or something |
| 07:38.59 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/BUGS: |
| 07:38.59 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: Mac OS X client sometimes (50/50) seems to now start to a black |
| 07:38.59 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: screen (only the console tab tabs render). must be recent.. |
| 07:39.43 | trepan | jpa-: locally installed? huh? -> away? |
| 07:39.55 | bryjen | or maybe edited with tools instead of by hand |
| 07:40.35 | bryjen | he's got multiple machines, and was only having problems on one |
| 07:40.48 | trepan | different OSes? |
| 07:40.53 | trepan | could be newlines or something... |
| 07:40.56 | SportChick | the lagstats is still a problem |
| 07:41.08 | SportChick | evil bob just with nr with 119 lag and lag warn at 500 |
| 07:41.32 | trepan | SportChick: do these warnings come with a "missing packet" message? |
| 07:41.47 | orange | I got a couple of those |
| 07:41.59 | bryjen | she wouldn't see that message tho, bob would |
| 07:42.30 | trepan | bryjen: i could have guessed that, but she also complained about seeing the messages herself earlier |
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| 07:43.04 | SportChick | sometimes - sometimes no warning |
| 07:43.16 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/BUGS: Mac/SDL client will not process keyboard input if started on the command-line with -window instead of going through the Finder. |
| 07:44.37 | trepan | brlcad: does hitting ESC a couple of times help for that last one? |
| 07:45.01 | trepan | had a similar problem some time ago on this linux box |
| 07:45.24 | brlcad | i've banged on most all my keys like a monkey to no avail |
| 07:46.04 | brlcad | it's not getting passed over to the app.. i get ^'s in the controlling terminal |
| 07:46.16 | *** part/#bzflag Quol (~Quol@modemcable103.129-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 07:46.43 | brlcad | should have something to do with SDLMain.m in my case |
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| 08:31.09 | LePoulpe | Hi all |
| 08:31.16 | LePoulpe | Wow version 2.0 is Greaaaaaaaaaaat |
| 08:32.13 | LePoulpe | Huh ? |
| 08:32.23 | purple_cow | nevermind |
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| 09:40.19 | Asciiwhite | hey fellas |
| 09:41.07 | Asciiwhite | any other miror besides sourceforge, i cant seem to get it from any of them. |
| 09:42.37 | DTRemenak | Asciiwhite: http://bzflag.bz/builds/2.0/ |
| 09:43.07 | Asciiwhite | thanks |
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| 09:46.01 | Asciiwhite | can i get an eta on compile time? |
| 09:46.19 | Pimpinella | eta? |
| 09:46.28 | Asciiwhite | estimated time of arrival :) |
| 09:46.44 | Asciiwhite | i.e should i come back in 30 mins, or sit and wait |
| 09:47.12 | Pimpinella | eta is usually when i come back from breakfast ;) |
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| 10:10.54 | Pimpinella | hey _Manu_ :) |
| 10:10.59 | _Manu_ | Hi! |
| 10:11.09 | Pimpinella | wb |
| 10:11.10 | _Manu_ | got my last email? |
| 10:11.15 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 10:11.21 | Pimpinella | just reading |
| 10:11.24 | _Manu_ | just a pause at work |
| 10:12.09 | Pimpinella | i'll work from cvs |
| 10:12.24 | _Manu_ | ok.. i'm upgrading now |
| 10:12.47 | _Manu_ | and about date? |
| 10:13.18 | Pimpinella | i placed my stuff at other locatins, so the patches shouldn't confilct anymore |
| 10:13.53 | Pimpinella | date, soon |
| 10:14.00 | Pimpinella | less than a week |
| 10:14.03 | _Manu_ | i also modularized my code.. |
| 10:14.11 | Pimpinella | cool |
| 10:14.13 | _Manu_ | cool.. then i got time for changes :) |
| 10:14.31 | Pimpinella | hm? |
| 10:14.37 | _Manu_ | now i'm too busy :( anual taxes declarations |
| 10:14.54 | _Manu_ | time for update the code to 2.0 |
| 10:15.01 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 10:15.19 | Pimpinella | well, actually i thought in 3-5 days |
| 10:15.46 | Pimpinella | probably a parallel server earlier |
| 10:15.58 | _Manu_ | yes.. that's fine |
| 10:16.01 | Pimpinella | but that shouldn't be a problem |
| 10:16.19 | Pimpinella | i totally redefine the map |
| 10:16.36 | _Manu_ | heh.. vipers map? |
| 10:16.36 | Pimpinella | using groups and stuff |
| 10:16.39 | Pimpinella | yeah |
| 10:16.52 | _Manu_ | i was looking for viper.. but not found |
| 10:17.27 | _Manu_ | also looking for Tupone.. for asking something about his changes |
| 10:17.36 | Pimpinella | i finished the boxes yesterday, working on pyramids today, then modifieing |
| 10:17.41 | Pimpinella | yeah |
| 10:18.08 | Pimpinella | i thing viper has finally quit caring for the server |
| 10:18.24 | _Manu_ | i think so |
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| 10:18.53 | Pimpinella | and he hasn't for at least half a yeah |
| 10:19.18 | _Manu_ | remember move the little pyramids over the base walls.. for filling the blanks space.. |
| 10:19.32 | Pimpinella | it's enough for him callin himself admin and having the server bearing his name ;) |
| 10:19.38 | _Manu_ | hehe |
| 10:19.53 | Pimpinella | base walls? |
| 10:19.58 | Pimpinella | the bailey? |
| 10:20.05 | _Manu_ | mmm.. my english... :( |
| 10:20.17 | _Manu_ | mean the wall in front the base with two little pyramids |
| 10:20.26 | _Manu_ | like a barrier |
| 10:20.29 | Pimpinella | jeah, move to where? |
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| 10:20.44 | _Manu_ | to the outside.. there is a little space in the wall limit and the pyramid |
| 10:20.53 | ViPeR | sup peeps |
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| 10:21.04 | _Manu_ | one somebody dropped there a flag.. and like impossible to pick up |
| 10:21.12 | Pimpinella | yo viper ;) |
| 10:21.17 | _Manu_ | lol.. hi |
| 10:21.20 | ViPeR | hi Pimpinella |
| 10:21.36 | Pimpinella | oh yes, ic |
| 10:21.42 | _Manu_ | you heard us? ;-P |
| 10:21.57 | ViPeR | i got a question.. how come i cant download the new version of BZFlag |
| 10:21.58 | Pimpinella | what about the pyramids at thesides of the base? |
| 10:22.11 | _Manu_ | yes... that pyramids |
| 10:22.35 | _Manu_ | 2.0 http://bzflag.bz/builds/2.0/ |
| 10:22.52 | _Manu_ | need time for updating mirrors |
| 10:22.53 | ViPeR | thanks man |
| 10:22.54 | Pimpinella | ViPeR: sf might be still on maintainance |
| 10:23.05 | ViPeR | ok thanks |
| 10:23.45 | Pimpinella | one could drop the flag betwen base and those pyramids |
| 10:24.00 | _Manu_ | yes.. when tries to drop over the pyramid for pass |
| 10:24.13 | _Manu_ | difficult.. but possible.. i saw it |
| 10:24.21 | _Manu_ | and found how to pick up too.. hehe |
| 10:24.32 | Pimpinella | how? |
| 10:24.40 | _Manu_ | a precise jump from base |
| 10:25.07 | _Manu_ | but that little space is a bug and must be fixed |
| 10:25.08 | Pimpinella | bb in 10 minutes |
| 10:25.12 | _Manu_ | k |
| 10:29.15 | Pimpinella | back |
| 10:29.33 | ViPeR | err i keep geting this error "no fronts found (the -directory option may help). exiting" |
| 10:30.23 | Pimpinella | well, the -directory option might help ;) |
| 10:31.00 | ViPeR | how i do that i am runing windows xp |
| 10:32.20 | Pimpinella | there should have come fonts (not fronts i think...) with bzflag |
| 10:32.28 | _Manu_ | you can write the route where the data directory is |
| 10:32.43 | Pimpinella | they should have been installed somewhere |
| 10:33.38 | ViPeR | so i have to put this -directory C:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.0\data\fonts in where it say target in the shortcut? |
| 10:34.23 | Pimpinella | target? shortcut? |
| 10:34.27 | _Manu_ | perhaps.. only untill ...\data |
| 10:34.47 | Pimpinella | yeah |
| 10:35.15 | ViPeR | i dont understand this |
| 10:35.24 | ViPeR | ill keep the older version |
| 10:35.45 | Pimpinella | you won't be happy with that decision for long |
| 10:35.53 | _Manu_ | or set the working directory in your link to c:\Program Files\BzFlag2.0.0 |
| 10:36.18 | ViPeR | how |
| 10:36.21 | Pimpinella | the servers for the old version will go down soon |
| 10:37.16 | _Manu_ | i'm not a windows user.. but i think using right click over the link.. |
| 10:37.33 | *** join/#bzflag |zongo| (~zongo@80-218-159-77.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 10:37.59 | Pimpinella | yo |zongo| |
| 10:38.28 | Pimpinella | the stuff keeps building with -g |
| 10:38.58 | |zongo| | yo Pimpinella |
| 10:39.38 | |zongo| | MacOSX isnt out yet? |
| 10:39.45 | Pimpinella | it is |
| 10:40.00 | Pimpinella | http://bzflag.bz/builds/2.0/ |
| 10:40.22 | |zongo| | thx, its not on the main page of sf |
| 10:41.19 | ViPeR | i give up on it |
| 10:41.36 | _Manu_ | ViPeR: try bzflag -directory c:\Program Files\BzFlag2.0.0\data\ |
| 10:41.49 | _Manu_ | that should fix your problem |
| 10:42.10 | Pimpinella | and should also be sticky |
| 10:42.15 | ViPeR | i did and i still get the same thing |
| 10:42.27 | _Manu_ | perhaps misspell |
| 10:43.06 | _Manu_ | be sure you writing fine the route, and check if it exists using explorer |
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| 10:43.37 | _Manu_ | or write the route beween "" |
| 10:44.15 | _Manu_ | for allowing the blank space in Program Files |
| 10:44.37 | _Manu_ | ViPeR: bzflag -directory "c:\Program Files\BzFlag2.0.0\data\" |
| 10:44.38 | ViPeR | ok let me try that |
| 10:46.52 | ViPeR | now i get another error saying "unexpected: bzflag. Server must go after all options." |
| 10:47.24 | _Manu_ | you wrote the bzflag server? |
| 10:47.36 | ViPeR | no |
| 10:47.46 | ViPeR | i am trying to start a game not a server |
| 10:48.01 | _Manu_ | well it's like if you wrote whe callsign@server:port |
| 10:49.14 | _Manu_ | if you wrote it.. must be the last option, that wath the server error message mean |
| 10:49.40 | _Manu_ | s/wath/what |
| 10:50.18 | Asciiwhite | wings is nice |
| 10:50.32 | Asciiwhite | ghost mode fighting is nice extra me thinks |
| 11:04.45 | ViPeR | i dont know what els to do i try every thing nothing works |
| 11:05.17 | ViPeR | but its pissing me off tho :/ |
| 11:05.52 | ViPeR | 12WindowsXP [uptime]12 1day 4hrs 59mins 7secs [record uptime]12 5days 9hrs 21mins 17secs on Nov 28 2004 |
| 11:07.35 | ViPeR | brb peeps |
| 11:09.41 | ruskie | <-- hopefully play bzflag today... just need to get that new gfx card get dri working(or ati_driver) and then launch it... again after some 14 days :( |
| 11:11.19 | *** join/#bzflag Pimpinella (~frank@p50820205.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:23.22 | Asciiwhite | has map scale increased. by that i mean limit |
| 11:23.28 | Asciiwhite | some of the new maps a freaking huge. |
| 11:23.29 | Pizbit | ruskie: Why didn't you buy an NVIDIA card? |
| 11:23.48 | ViPeR | back all |
| 11:24.39 | ruskie | Pizbit, cause I dislike nvidia a lot.. |
| 11:24.52 | Pizbit | ruskie: Why? |
| 11:24.55 | ruskie | with ati atleast I get a choice of free drivers or proprietary |
| 11:25.02 | Pizbit | lol |
| 11:25.15 | Pizbit | But both are an absolute PITA to setup eh? |
| 11:25.19 | ruskie | and the thing is my older card r7500 got busted a few days ago |
| 11:25.20 | Asciiwhite | the new way you can aim bullets when jumping is brillient |
| 11:25.28 | Asciiwhite | ice is really cool too |
| 11:25.29 | ruskie | Pizbit, not really... |
| 11:25.29 | Pizbit | NVIDIA takes ~2mins tops to setup |
| 11:25.44 | ruskie | ati takes fast to setup if you know how... |
| 11:25.58 | ruskie | and sice I prefer to use dri.sf.net over any binary driver :)) |
| 11:26.21 | Asciiwhite | ice races rock |
| 11:26.30 | Asciiwhite | nice work with the new verson guys... |
| 11:26.39 | ruskie | can't wait to play it... |
| 11:27.01 | ruskie | but first I got some work then need to get home eat something and then go to the hw store for the card... |
| 11:27.01 | Pizbit | Asciiwhite: Ice is just the ground turned into a mirror with lower friction :) |
| 11:27.11 | ruskie | maybe I'll be playing by 19:00 tonight... |
| 11:27.13 | Pizbit | Asciiwhite: They can make the ground any colour mirror |
| 11:27.22 | Pizbit | ruskie: That's 19 hours away |
| 11:27.29 | Pizbit | Well, 18.5 |
| 11:27.31 | Asciiwhite | Pizbit: eitherway its something ive not played on bzflag before, and it makes it more fun. |
| 11:27.37 | Pizbit | yeah |
| 11:27.38 | ruskie | acctually... it's 6.5 :)) |
| 11:27.43 | Pizbit | Asciiwhite: It can rain frogs too! |
| 11:27.50 | Asciiwhite | havnt seen the rain yet. |
| 11:27.54 | Asciiwhite | clouds work well |
| 11:28.16 | Asciiwhite | its good to know you can set the limit of wing jumps.. |
| 11:28.17 | ruskie | hmm anyone already made a map(by the name Hall of mirrors) lol... |
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| 11:57.45 | jpa- | trepan_away: locally installed == --prefix=/home/users/jpa/bzfs/ |
| 11:57.56 | jpa- | minus last / |
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| 12:36.23 | Pizbit | Where is everyone?:) |
| 12:36.28 | jpa- | here |
| 12:36.39 | Pizbit | There's barely anyone playing though |
| 12:36.46 | jpa- | yup |
| 12:36.51 | Pizbit | On the maps there are people I get 1fps tops |
| 12:37.03 | jpa- | ha :P |
| 12:37.09 | Pizbit | Lagg I think |
| 12:37.09 | jpa- | olympics server? :) |
| 12:37.12 | Pizbit | Nah |
| 12:37.13 | jpa- | not lag |
| 12:37.16 | jpa- | fps probs |
| 12:37.19 | Pizbit | I usually get >50 |
| 12:37.23 | jpa- | hmm |
| 12:38.19 | Pizbit | Such as bzflag3.tuxee.net:45155 |
| 12:44.44 | Pizbit | I suppose there will be more people playing bzflag 2.0 ina few days eh?:) |
| 12:45.06 | Pizbit | Looks like sfs maintenance has finished. |
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| 13:22.22 | freed | sf download bzflag is on error ? |
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| 13:45.27 | ViPeR | can any one tell me how to run the windows version of bzflag with out me geting this error "no fronts found (the -directory option may help). exiting" plz? |
| 13:56.54 | ViPeR | bbl maybe then i will may get some help |
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| 14:24.22 | jpa- | hello |
| 14:27.11 | cods | hi |
| 14:35.55 | Pimpinella | what are normals |
| 14:35.59 | Pimpinella | ? |
| 14:43.11 | bryjen | after the normal-build bzfs v2.0 crashed twice last night, the debug-enabled bzfs ran 6.5 hours until scheduled shutdown. :( |
| 14:44.38 | Pimpinella | hm, my 1.11.41 build did fine last night |
| 14:45.15 | Pimpinella | upgdaded to just half an hour ago |
| 14:45.39 | Pimpinella | upgdaded is an interestin word ;) |
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| 15:04.48 | Elspuddy | is there any way if telling the server to alow to kill teammates ??? |
| 15:09.32 | bryjen | "-tk: player does not die when killing a teammate" |
| 15:11.23 | Elspuddy | thanks bryjen :) |
| 15:12.09 | Elspuddy | it's cheaseing me off when i got 10 people on the server and every one get's tked when it's supoded to be a deathmatch/ffa server |
| 15:13.10 | bryjen | they still don't score for shooting teammates |
| 15:13.37 | bryjen | they get -1 for it |
| 15:15.14 | bryjen | the only way to get pure ffa is to allow only rogues |
| 15:17.54 | jpa- | or 1/team |
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| 15:24.22 | Elspuddy | how do i alow just 1 team ? |
| 15:24.35 | djlawler | is everyone aware that sourceforge does not have the files yet? |
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| 15:26.40 | Nidhoggr | hi Timpson |
| 15:26.53 | Timpson | hello |
| 15:27.06 | Timpson | downloading the new version |
| 15:27.16 | Nidhoggr | cool :) |
| 15:27.54 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: how'd it go? did you have fun last night? |
| 15:28.07 | Timpson | will the port be the same or is it automatic like it was before? |
| 15:28.20 | SportChick | 5255 |
| 15:28.26 | Timpson | thx |
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| 15:29.32 | Nidhoggr | SportChick: for a little while anyway. I played for about 45 minutes. |
| 15:30.23 | Nidhoggr | I need to consider a decomission of the 1.10 server on secretplace. Figure out a time schedule, etc. |
| 15:31.57 | Elspuddy | where do you get the new version from ? |
| 15:32.32 | jpa- | Elspuddy: topic, 1.11 builds page |
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| 15:33.35 | My[DSMBR | The mirror you've selected, ovh.dl.sourceforge.net does not currently have the file you requested. (This is an error on our part which will be fixed). |
| 15:33.36 | My[DSMBR | =( |
| 15:33.48 | jpa- | hmm |
| 15:33.53 | jpa- | sf still broken? |
| 15:33.56 | rooter | i'm having the same issue |
| 15:33.57 | Nidhoggr | sometimes it takes a while for the files to propagate. |
| 15:33.59 | My[DSMBR | yeah |
| 15:34.05 | jpa- | http://norang.ca/bzflag-2.0.0.exe for windows |
| 15:34.14 | Nidhoggr | try other mirrors? |
| 15:34.23 | My[DSMBR | linux =( |
| 15:34.33 | jpa- | http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ for others |
| 15:35.05 | Elspuddy | hmm, no freebsd build ? |
| 15:35.29 | *** join/#bzflag orchid (orchid@orchid.user) |
| 15:35.31 | *** topic/#bzflag by jpa- -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || Shellshock is revived http://shellshock.bzflag.bz || Thank you, RPG! - http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=26845#26845 || BZFlag 2.0.0 is Released! - Go to http://sf.net/projects/bzflag to download it | Broken mirrors, found also on http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ |
| 15:35.36 | Nidhoggr | good morning, orchid |
| 15:35.39 | My[DSMBR | is there any other mirror than SF |
| 15:35.42 | jpa- | Elspuddy: use the source :) |
| 15:36.02 | orchid | morning |
| 15:36.27 | Nidhoggr | actually the my.bzflag.org downloads should be fairly quick. |
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| 15:36.32 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JBdiGriz] by ChanServ |
| 15:36.38 | Nidhoggr | hi JBdiGriz |
| 15:37.18 | JBdiGriz | G'Morning Nidhoggr |
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| 15:37.36 | Nidhoggr | My[DSMBR: what version of linux? can you compile from source, or do you require some sort of package? |
| 15:37.46 | My[DSMBR | Nidhoggr, source |
| 15:37.48 | My[DSMBR | 2.0.0 |
| 15:37.54 | My[DSMBR | SF not working |
| 15:37.54 | jpa- | so, i pasted the link |
| 15:37.57 | jpa- | 17:34:33 < jpa-> http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ for others |
| 15:38.06 | My[DSMBR | oh didn't see |
| 15:38.07 | My[DSMBR | thatnks |
| 15:38.09 | My[DSMBR | lol |
| 15:38.12 | My[DSMBR | thanks |
| 15:38.14 | jpa- | and set the topic too :) |
| 15:38.57 | Elspuddy | OMG |
| 15:39.07 | Elspuddy | i just forgot how to un tar a bz2/gz file |
| 15:39.19 | My[DSMBR | tar -xvzf ? |
| 15:39.57 | Elspuddy | thanks |
| 15:40.08 | My[DSMBR | for bz2 |
| 15:40.14 | My[DSMBR | its tar -xvjf |
| 15:40.59 | Elspuddy | note even |
| 15:41.16 | My[DSMBR | lol |
| 15:41.36 | My[DSMBR | don't u use the command often? |
| 15:41.40 | Elspuddy | <-- not the smartest person with it comes to freebsd |
| 15:41.57 | Elspuddy | nope, i'm usely in windows and not freebsd |
| 15:42.35 | Elspuddy | will 2.0 complie with the old version installed ? |
| 15:43.36 | My[DSMBR | how do you mean? |
| 15:43.41 | My[DSMBR | will it install over the last one? |
| 15:44.15 | Elspuddy | yep |
| 15:44.45 | My[DSMBR | don't know |
| 15:44.54 | My[DSMBR | i think yes |
| 15:45.29 | My[DSMBR | if you don't want it to use ./configure --prefix=/usr/local/bzflag |
| 15:45.31 | My[DSMBR | for example |
| 15:46.30 | djlawler97531 | does anyone know if the compile with Dev C++ is working? |
| 15:46.39 | jpa- | or --program-prefix=2.0 |
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| 15:47.28 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: I agree about decommissioning. However, it would be good to get the lag issues on 2.0 worked out first. |
| 15:47.37 | My[DSMBR | jpa-, what about the shared libs and so? |
| 15:47.42 | Nidhoggr | nod... but we have time for that. |
| 15:47.45 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: several of our regular players can't play 2.0 because of lag spikes |
| 15:47.46 | Nidhoggr | I think I know what the problem is. |
| 15:47.54 | jpa- | My[DSMBR: njah :) |
| 15:48.01 | Nidhoggr | it's not a lag issue, it's a packet loss issue. |
| 15:48.03 | My[DSMBR | =) |
| 15:48.10 | Nidhoggr | I think it boots after so many packets are lost. |
| 15:48.19 | SportChick | that's one problem, but some are getting higher lag too |
| 15:48.28 | SportChick | even with all the new features off |
| 15:48.47 | SportChick | did you know you could poll features? I didn't and someone did it while I was on there |
| 15:48.48 | Nidhoggr | it's definitely too sensitive. |
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| 15:48.54 | Elspuddy | hmm |
| 15:48.57 | Elspuddy | is this o.k |
| 15:49.02 | Elspuddy | BZFlag-2.0.0.20050118 with the following: |
| 15:49.02 | Elspuddy | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.02 | Elspuddy | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.03 | Elspuddy | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.03 | Elspuddy | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.04 | Elspuddy | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:49.15 | Nidhoggr | probably not. |
| 15:49.16 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 15:49.21 | orchid | lol |
| 15:49.48 | Nidhoggr | SportChick: didn't know that... hopefully that can be disabled. |
| 15:49.55 | orchid | Elspuddy: looks like your missing alot of stuff you need to build :-\ |
| 15:49.56 | bryjen | "no curses!". After all that, I would be |
| 15:50.00 | bryjen | ;) |
| 15:50.08 | SportChick | yeah, I vetoed it - they were trying to poll for verticle velocity on the bullets |
| 15:50.21 | Nidhoggr | I'm okay with some effects, but too many is hard on the graphics card and my sanity. :) |
| 15:50.37 | orchid | grr -21 |
| 15:50.56 | Nidhoggr | isn't that "brr -21"? |
| 15:50.57 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 15:50.59 | bryjen | the mirrored ground looks neat, but it makes me motion-sick after a while :( |
| 15:51.07 | Nidhoggr | bryjen: same here. |
| 15:51.18 | Elspuddy | hmm, all i did was ./configure --prefix=/usr/home/elspuddy/ |
| 15:51.34 | SportChick | !weather 90277 |
| 15:51.39 | guu | SportChick: The current temperature in Redondo Beach, California is 54°F (6:50 AM PST on January 18, 2005). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 67%. Dew Point: 43°F. Pressure: 30.18 in (1022 hPa). Visibility: 40.0 miles (64.4 kilometers). UV: 0 out of 12 |
| 15:51.45 | SportChick | mmmmmmmmmmmmmm 54! |
| 15:52.07 | Nidhoggr | we're about 58 right now. |
| 15:52.07 | bryjen | Els: you may need the -dev versions of your distro's SDL, curl, and ncurses packages |
| 15:52.12 | Nidhoggr | it's not quite 9 am |
| 15:52.21 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: not quite 8 am here |
| 15:52.25 | Nidhoggr | yep |
| 15:52.31 | SportChick | we were in the 70s yesterday |
| 15:52.36 | Nidhoggr | same here |
| 15:52.46 | Nidhoggr | supposed to be 70something today, too. |
| 15:52.49 | Elspuddy | bryjen: : i'm runign freebsd and i dont know ehere to get them from, so this is all for srouce |
| 15:53.35 | Nidhoggr | do you even have those installed? SDL, ncurses and curl? |
| 15:53.54 | Nidhoggr | cool |
| 15:54.11 | djlawler97531 | if you want to be cold - come to Pennsylvania |
| 15:54.21 | Elspuddy | Nidhoggr: i dont even know what thay are |
| 15:54.21 | Nidhoggr | I used to live in WI. |
| 15:54.24 | Nidhoggr | v cold. |
| 15:54.39 | jpa- | Elspuddy: you could try to dpkg -x debian package |
| 15:54.46 | jpa- | Elspuddy: if you are under ix86 |
| 15:55.00 | Nidhoggr | SDL is a I/O suite that makes it easier to program game controls, etc. |
| 15:55.03 | djlawler97531 | engine block heater cold in WI (I'll shut up now) |
| 15:55.36 | Nidhoggr | ncurses is a library that makes programming text screens more easily. |
| 15:55.59 | Nidhoggr | and curl is a URL library that makes programming web interaction easier. |
| 15:56.00 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 15:56.20 | Nidhoggr | ~sdl |
| 15:56.21 | ibot | [sdl] Look at http://www.libsdl.org |
| 15:56.29 | Nidhoggr | ~ncurses |
| 15:56.30 | ibot | . URL: http://www.clark.net/pub/dickey/ncurses/ncurses.html |
| 15:56.30 | jpa- | ~curl |
| 15:56.31 | ibot | Command line tool for getting data from a URL. URL: http://curl.haxx.nu/ |
| 15:56.31 | Elspuddy | jpa-: ix86 ?? |
| 15:56.39 | Nidhoggr | there, ya go. :) |
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| 15:56.48 | orchid | jpa-: I dont think freebsd has dpkg? |
| 15:56.51 | jpa- | Elspuddy: 386, 486, pentium, amd, etc |
| 15:56.55 | Elspuddy | ahhh |
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| 15:57.14 | jpa- | orchid: but what stops from getting it there? :) |
| 15:57.17 | jpa- | or alien, then |
| 15:57.23 | Elspuddy | nope, this box is x86 (amd xp2400+) |
| 15:57.44 | jpa- | Elspuddy: so, debian package could work |
| 15:57.49 | jpa- | just extract it |
| 15:58.18 | Nidhoggr | debian package work on freebsd?! |
| 15:58.29 | bryjen | !weather toronto, ontario |
| 15:58.29 | jpa- | Nidhoggr: same processor, why not? |
| 15:58.30 | guu | bryjen: The current temperature in Toronto, Ontario is -4°F (10:00 AM EST on January 18, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 50%. Dew Point: -18°F. Pressure: 30.85 in (1045 hPa). Visibility: 9.0 miles (14.5 kilometers). UV: 1 out of 12 |
| 15:58.37 | Nidhoggr | libraries, etc? |
| 15:58.43 | bryjen | !convert -4 degF to degC |
| 15:58.44 | guu | bryjen: -20.0 |
| 15:58.46 | jpa- | well, he will need them anyway |
| 15:58.53 | djlawler97531 | suddenly I fell warmer |
| 15:58.57 | djlawler97531 | feel |
| 15:59.02 | jpa- | i think only curl is that he can have wrong version of |
| 15:59.18 | Elspuddy | hmm, i got something call sdl12 on the ports collection is that the sdl i need ? |
| 15:59.31 | Nidhoggr | Elspuddy: yes. |
| 15:59.46 | Elspuddy | btw, i only want the server to run, i will not be playing bzflag 2.0 in this pc |
| 15:59.47 | Nidhoggr | curl might be in ports, too. |
| 15:59.54 | jpa- | and someone told me that freebsd was worth a try and i should try it |
| 15:59.56 | Nidhoggr | you need curl |
| 16:00.05 | Nidhoggr | not necessarily sdl |
| 16:00.07 | jpa- | Elspuddy: you do not need sdl |
| 16:00.26 | jpa- | Nidhoggr: curl? why? i didn't get curl... |
| 16:00.32 | Nidhoggr | when you do configure do ./configure --disable-client |
| 16:00.36 | jpa- | so what will i miss? |
| 16:00.40 | Nidhoggr | it interacts with listserver? |
| 16:00.56 | jpa- | well, my server works, if that is what you mean? |
| 16:00.57 | Nidhoggr | well, his might work without it. |
| 16:01.04 | Elspuddy | usr/ports/ftp/curl |
| 16:01.08 | jpa- | and global logins seem to work too |
| 16:01.17 | Nidhoggr | Elspuddy: try just doing ./configure --disable-client |
| 16:01.23 | Nidhoggr | and see if it builds bzfs for you. |
| 16:01.30 | Nidhoggr | you may not need any of that stuff. |
| 16:01.38 | bryjen | it can talk to the list server without curl. the server uses curl for just the master ban list, iirc |
| 16:02.12 | Elspuddy | can i add --prefix=myhomedir here ??? |
| 16:02.20 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 16:02.57 | Nidhoggr | it won't build bzadmin properly without ncurses, but you just wanted the server, so that should build. |
| 16:02.58 | Elspuddy | just got that same msg up |
| 16:03.06 | Nidhoggr | that's fine |
| 16:03.10 | Nidhoggr | type "make" |
| 16:03.14 | TheRedBaron | ~seen Chestal |
| 16:03.16 | ibot | chestal is currently on #bzflag (3d 9h 27m 38s). Has said a total of 285 messages. Is idling for 21h 30m 14s |
| 16:03.37 | Elspuddy | Syntax error: ")" unexpected |
| 16:03.37 | Elspuddy | *** Error code 2 |
| 16:03.37 | Elspuddy | Stop in /usr/home/elspuddy/bzflag-2.0.0.20050117/man. |
| 16:03.38 | Elspuddy | *** Error code 1 |
| 16:03.38 | Elspuddy | Stop in /usr/home/elspuddy/bzflag-2.0.0.20050117. |
| 16:04.09 | *** join/#bzflag blast007 (~blast007@198.150.76.4) |
| 16:04.18 | bryjen | in the man dir? |
| 16:04.43 | Nidhoggr | what is line before that, Elspuddy |
| 16:04.50 | bryjen | strange |
| 16:04.52 | Elspuddy | cat bzadmin.6s | sed -e "s'INSTALL_DATA_DIR'/usr/home/elspuddy//share/bzflag'g" | sed -e "s'BUILD_DATE'\([0-9][0-9]\)\([0-9][0-9]\)/\1-\2-\3/g")'g" | sed -e "s'BUILD_VERSION'\..*/\1/g")'g" > bzadmin.6 |
| 16:04.52 | Elspuddy | Syntax error: ")" unexpected |
| 16:04.53 | Elspuddy | *** Error code 2 |
| 16:05.18 | jpa- | hmm |
| 16:05.19 | *** join/#bzflag LePoulpe (~lpos@AMontpellier-251-1-59-187.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:05.21 | jpa- | try gmake |
| 16:06.29 | bryjen | or it could be his sed is different |
| 16:06.39 | Elspuddy | gmake is working |
| 16:06.49 | bryjen | or not ;) |
| 16:06.54 | jpa- | bryjen: the make messages didn't seem normal :) |
| 16:07.04 | jpa- | my make says leaving directory etc :) |
| 16:07.17 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:08.09 | Nidhoggr | sed is evil :) |
| 16:08.22 | *** join/#bzflag bz4689 (~d11d13f2@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 16:08.54 | *** join/#bzflag Lorenzo (~d11d13f2@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 16:09.11 | Nidhoggr | what's it doing/not doing? |
| 16:09.34 | jpa- | i made --prefix=/home/users/jpa/bzfs --disable-client, and when i try to load it, it gives errors for my map "incomplete object" |
| 16:09.47 | jpa- | same map works fine on another computer |
| 16:10.02 | Nidhoggr | is it a 2.0 server on the other computer? |
| 16:10.39 | jpa- | yes |
| 16:10.41 | jpa- | on both |
| 16:10.42 | bryjen | same OS on both computers? |
| 16:10.44 | jpa- | same version |
| 16:10.57 | jpa- | debian, other unstable, not-working stable |
| 16:10.57 | *** join/#bzflag t-s (~ts@pD9EA7BC4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:11.16 | jpa- | haven't yet tried local install on the working machine |
| 16:11.37 | Nidhoggr | I always compile it with no -prefix, and just copy the binary where I want it. |
| 16:11.42 | Nidhoggr | it doesn't care. |
| 16:11.53 | jpa- | i did that at first |
| 16:11.57 | jpa- | didn't work |
| 16:12.07 | jpa- | so i thought the stuff in share was important |
| 16:12.13 | bryjen | the prefix mostly affects the default path of the client's data directory |
| 16:12.14 | Elspuddy | looks like that worked |
| 16:12.15 | jpa- | but there are just client stuff |
| 16:12.20 | Nidhoggr | any useful messages in -d -d -d -d? |
| 16:12.26 | Elspuddy | do i do a make install ? |
| 16:12.26 | jpa- | no |
| 16:12.40 | jpa- | Elspuddy: yes |
| 16:12.43 | Nidhoggr | try bzfs --version |
| 16:12.44 | theEnemy | anyone know an sf mirror that does work? It would be nice to avoid costs for my.bzflag.org |
| 16:12.59 | bryjen | or gmake install, if gmake is working better for you |
| 16:13.04 | blast007 | theEnemy: for the Win32 version? |
| 16:13.12 | theEnemy | yeah, please |
| 16:13.17 | Elspuddy | did make install, looks liek it did not coff an error up |
| 16:13.24 | Nidhoggr | theEnemy: I own the circuit that my.bzflag.org is on. don't worry, since I'm not close to my commit bandwidth right now. |
| 16:13.29 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: what's the fix for the packetloss problem? |
| 16:13.42 | jpa- | --prefix install on the other comp works |
| 16:13.46 | Nidhoggr | SportChick: the idea is that we know wha tthe problem is. :) |
| 16:13.48 | jpa- | Nidhoggr: you mean -version? :) |
| 16:13.54 | Nidhoggr | yeah |
| 16:13.57 | theEnemy | Nidhoggr: thanks, okay, I'll kill your bandwidth instead then ;) |
| 16:13.57 | Nidhoggr | whichever ;) |
| 16:14.07 | jpa- | BZFlag server 2.0.0.20050118-STABLE-linux-gnu (protocol 0026) http://BZFlag.org/ |
| 16:14.11 | blast007 | theEnemy: try this one http://osdn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/bzflag/bzflag-2.0.0.exe |
| 16:14.25 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: ts is getting kicked - I think it thinks he has packetloss, but I've asked him to test it |
| 16:14.43 | Nidhoggr | when you do /lagstats does it say any percent is dropped? |
| 16:14.49 | *** join/#bzflag KTL (~KTL@kn-res.kuleuven.net) |
| 16:14.53 | Elspuddy | does the old 1.8 conf work with the 2.0 sevrer ? |
| 16:15.04 | SportChick | I'm not ingame now and neither is he |
| 16:15.10 | Nidhoggr | Elspuddy: yes, there are a few incompatibilities though. |
| 16:15.29 | Nidhoggr | use -disableBots instead of -prohibitBots |
| 16:15.31 | Nidhoggr | if you use that. |
| 16:15.39 | Elspuddy | kk, is there a sample 2.0 conf file some where ? |
| 16:15.49 | jpa- | yes.. there was i think :) |
| 16:15.56 | Nidhoggr | the sample in in the misc dir. |
| 16:16.53 | Nidhoggr | it's the same as the old one, so if you just change the bots thing, you should be ok. |
| 16:16.54 | bryjen | bzfs -help gives a _long_ listing of all its options |
| 16:17.07 | Elspuddy | ahh, cool |
| 16:17.38 | Nidhoggr | jpa-: you can also strace to see what it's breaking on when it loads the map. |
| 16:18.08 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: yes, he is losing some packets. when he spawned he was losing 10% but then it went down - stabilized around 2-4 % |
| 16:18.32 | Nidhoggr | that's probably why he's getting kicked. |
| 16:18.36 | Nidhoggr | I think that got added. |
| 16:18.39 | SportChick | I was at 1% |
| 16:18.44 | SportChick | and I've been lag kicked for that |
| 16:18.54 | t-s | Previously I was almost never loosing any packets |
| 16:19.02 | SportChick | but why so much packetloss in the first place? |
| 16:19.16 | jpa- | Nidhoggr: read( something and then it gives error |
| 16:19.17 | bryjen | packet loss is factored into the lag calc now |
| 16:19.22 | t-s | I dunno. I reconnected again |
| 16:19.26 | Elspuddy | hmm |
| 16:19.29 | Elspuddy | bad argument "-disablebots" |
| 16:19.29 | Elspuddy | BZFlag server 2.0.0.20050118-STABLE-freebsd5.3 (protocol 0026) http://BZFlag.org/ |
| 16:19.29 | Elspuddy | Copyright (c) 1993 - 2005 Tim Riker |
| 16:20.12 | Nidhoggr | t-s I'm testing the path to your IP. |
| 16:20.20 | bryjen | KTL: "Broken mirrors, found also on http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/" |
| 16:20.24 | blast007 | it's -disableBots (capital B) |
| 16:20.31 | KTL | tnx :-) |
| 16:20.33 | jpa- | (the server works, it just discards some objects) |
| 16:20.38 | Elspuddy | blast007: : thanks :) |
| 16:20.42 | blast007 | :) |
| 16:21.14 | *** join/#bzflag mmj (~mmj@panther.mmj.dk) |
| 16:21.42 | mmj | WINGS is a very nice flag--but how can one jump multiple times? |
| 16:21.45 | bryjen | TimRiker does those |
| 16:21.54 | Nidhoggr | t-s I'm loosing about 3% at the last hop. |
| 16:22.03 | bryjen | mmj, its a server setting |
| 16:22.05 | Nidhoggr | mmj, the server has to have it set. |
| 16:22.11 | Nidhoggr | and you just hit tab over and over. |
| 16:22.12 | Pimpinella | if i make a material object without a name, how can i refer to it? |
| 16:22.22 | mmj | I looked for the option in bzfs.6 but couldn't find it |
| 16:22.27 | t-s | Nidhoggr: should I make a traceroute and ask my ISP? |
| 16:22.30 | bryjen | some do not enable the extra jumps, so all you get it driving in air |
| 16:22.36 | Nidhoggr | that might help. |
| 16:22.45 | bryjen | -set _wingsJumpCount 3 |
| 16:22.54 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: will you traceroute to me? I'm having problems too |
| 16:23.27 | blast007 | mmj: can also do /set _wingsJumpCount 3 in the game |
| 16:23.39 | mmj | blast007, bryjen: Thanks! |
| 16:23.40 | bryjen | or an admin can... do what blast007 said |
| 16:23.54 | mmj | I've added -set _wingsJumpCount 3 to the startup options |
| 16:24.21 | t-s | Nidhoggr: Is there an option to show losses in traceroute terminal app? |
| 16:24.47 | Nidhoggr | hrm. not really. |
| 16:25.06 | Nidhoggr | it doesn't give enough pings to each to be able to see the problem. |
| 16:25.10 | t-s | so how had you found out that? |
| 16:25.19 | bryjen | running a long ping |
| 16:25.36 | bryjen | err, pinging several times |
| 16:25.45 | Nidhoggr | I'm not using windows traceroute :) |
| 16:25.48 | jpa- | long ping.. i like that one :) |
| 16:26.55 | t-s | who uses MS-windows? :-) |
| 16:27.15 | bryjen | many people |
| 16:27.20 | t-s | Hmm |
| 16:27.25 | t-s | --- bzflag.secretplace.us ping statistics --- |
| 16:27.26 | t-s | 59 packets transmitted, 59 packets received, 0% packet loss |
| 16:27.26 | t-s | round-trip min/avg/max = 216.462/240.699/268.363 ms |
| 16:27.55 | Nidhoggr | that looks pretty good. |
| 16:28.11 | blast007 | and linux |
| 16:28.27 | mmj | may I suggest mtr (matts trace route) to debug network connections. It's awesome |
| 16:28.51 | mmj | mtr is a unix proggy though |
| 16:29.13 | TheRedBaron | has anyone ever run a bzfs on windows 2000 server? |
| 16:29.47 | bryjen | there were a few last time someone did a survey |
| 16:30.02 | blast007 | TheRedBaron: I've run one on Windows Server 2003, but it was only for like an hour |
| 16:30.13 | TheRedBaron | is it stable? |
| 16:30.15 | blast007 | can't remember how well it worked.. |
| 16:30.21 | blast007 | but I still think it had issues |
| 16:30.22 | TheRedBaron | hmm. |
| 16:30.36 | TheRedBaron | I've heard rumor that bzfs doesn't like windows |
| 16:31.07 | blast007 | hosting on Windows causes CPU spikes when players leave, random player drops, etc |
| 16:31.16 | blast007 | I don't recommend it ;) |
| 16:31.22 | TheRedBaron | ok. |
| 16:31.40 | bryjen | i'd hope the NT derivatives would do OK. 9x and ME are the suck at multitasking |
| 16:31.44 | TheRedBaron | I'll find a version of linux, to run a "dedicated" server |
| 16:31.58 | TheRedBaron | or NT... how does that run? |
| 16:32.03 | blast007 | bryjen: I've tried on XP, and it's still sucky :) |
| 16:32.04 | brlcad | submissions welcom |
| 16:32.14 | brlcad | http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=3248 |
| 16:32.31 | blast007 | course, it might have just been my 56k causing some isues |
| 16:32.38 | bryjen | TheRedBaron: Windows 2K was basically NT version 5 |
| 16:33.20 | bryjen | so all the current Windows are based off NT |
| 16:33.23 | TheRedBaron | k |
| 16:33.32 | blast007 | TheRedBaron: Slackware's ZipSlack is less than a 100MB download, and that runs a server fine for me |
| 16:33.46 | brlcad | FYI, there's a pending /. as well |
| 16:33.53 | TheRedBaron | so what linux deviate would you reccomend? |
| 16:33.58 | blast007 | can be installed in a FAT32 partition, in like c:\linux\ |
| 16:34.05 | bryjen | hehe deviate |
| 16:34.09 | bryjen | ~dict deviate |
| 16:34.28 | bryjen | ooo, nice one right off the top |
| 16:34.32 | TheRedBaron | :) |
| 16:34.34 | blast007 | heh |
| 16:34.38 | *** join/#bzflag Wilinckx (~willem@ip-81-11-133-169.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 16:35.06 | blast007 | eeek...this battery sure drained fast... |
| 16:35.43 | *** join/#bzflag smallfoot- (gorilla@c-685b70d5.041-5-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 16:35.52 | smallfoot- | sourceforge is broken |
| 16:35.54 | bryjen | Slackware is nice. Its solid ( some might say crusty 'cause its not always leading-edge software and aims to be quity unix-like ) |
| 16:35.59 | smallfoot- | i cant download bzflag |
| 16:36.01 | smallfoot- | what can i do? |
| 16:36.02 | blast007 | smallfoot-: look at the topic |
| 16:36.04 | brlcad | smallfoot-: did you break it? |
| 16:36.21 | smallfoot- | no, it wasnt me! |
| 16:36.23 | smallfoot- | i didnt do anything! |
| 16:36.28 | smallfoot- | i swear |
| 16:36.31 | brlcad | i think it was you |
| 16:36.37 | smallfoot- | rly, it wasnt |
| 16:36.41 | smallfoot- | im no hacker |
| 16:36.43 | smallfoot- | i dont break websites |
| 16:36.44 | bryjen | Fedora or Suse or others might be more Windows-user-friendly though |
| 16:36.45 | brlcad | can you prove it? |
| 16:36.47 | blast007 | same IP too |
| 16:36.49 | smallfoot- | no |
| 16:36.52 | brlcad | well then |
| 16:36.56 | blast007 | ;) |
| 16:37.49 | *** join/#bzflag TexasH (TexasHunte@adsl-69-154-65-214.dsl.rcsntx.swbell.net) |
| 16:37.51 | cods | Is there something wrong with: spin -90 1 -1 0 ? |
| 16:37.52 | smallfoot- | .bz is nice domain |
| 16:38.03 | bryjen | it says 1.11, buy they're upto 2.0 now |
| 16:38.08 | brlcad | smallfoot-: http://bzflag.bz/builds/2.0/ works too |
| 16:38.16 | TheRedBaron | haha |
| 16:38.19 | brlcad | and is .bz :) |
| 16:38.20 | cods | I tried to apply that to an arc, but rendering show opposite face ("invisible" faces instead of visible one) |
| 16:38.49 | *** join/#bzflag LePoulpe (~lpos@AMontpellier-251-1-59-187.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:38.50 | *** join/#bzflag RedBaron2 (~d8ada652@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 16:39.58 | cods | can someone look at that: http://tuxee.net/arc.txt Is that wrong ? |
| 16:40.28 | *** join/#bzflag JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 16:40.29 | cods | the object is no more rendered correctly.. |
| 16:40.46 | smallfoot- | thanks all |
| 16:40.58 | smallfoot- | does anyone know when sourceforge will work? |
| 16:41.18 | brlcad | smallfoot-: sourceforge is working now |
| 16:41.26 | smallfoot- | but i cant download any files!! |
| 16:41.27 | brlcad | it just takes time to propagate the files |
| 16:41.32 | smallfoot- | oh |
| 16:41.33 | jpa- | cods: are you getting incomplete object errors? |
| 16:41.39 | smallfoot- | but no files works |
| 16:41.46 | bryjen | it should smooth itself out in a few days |
| 16:41.47 | smallfoot- | not on bzflag and not on other projects too |
| 16:41.51 | smallfoot- | ok |
| 16:41.51 | cods | nono, just inverted faces (CW instead of CCW) |
| 16:41.59 | jpa- | ~seen trepan |
| 16:42.01 | ibot | trepan <~trepan@trepan.user> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 8h 57m ago, saying: 'had a similar problem some time ago on this linux box'. |
| 16:42.04 | cods | which of course it's just bad for rendering the object. |
| 16:42.27 | smallfoot- | why dont the bzflag installer has the nice bzflag red tank icon? |
| 16:43.01 | jpa- | cods: that looks ok to me, while that spin -90 1 -1 0 |
| 16:43.08 | jpa- | is strange |
| 16:43.16 | cods | why strange ? |
| 16:43.21 | jpa- | well.. |
| 16:43.27 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot-, because it was made nsis 2.1 compatable |
| 16:43.34 | *** part/#bzflag mmj (~mmj@panther.mmj.dk) |
| 16:43.49 | brlcad | smallfoot-: donations welcome |
| 16:43.54 | jpa- | sounds like it is rotated around a diagonal axis |
| 16:44.03 | jpa- | but it should work, too |
| 16:44.04 | smallfoot- | JeffM2501, cant NSIS have option to change the icon? |
| 16:44.10 | JeffM2501 | probably |
| 16:44.16 | JeffM2501 | it's just not the same as it used to be |
| 16:44.19 | JeffM2501 | is it that important? |
| 16:44.27 | smallfoot- | no, not so important |
| 16:44.39 | smallfoot- | but i noticed it |
| 16:44.54 | brlcad | how observant of you |
| 16:44.58 | brlcad | ;) |
| 16:44.59 | smallfoot- | thank you |
| 16:45.02 | smallfoot- | :) |
| 16:45.14 | *** join/#bzflag wegstar (~wegstar@adsl-67-122-113-48.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 16:45.24 | JeffM2501 | out of the woodwork, eh brlcad? |
| 16:45.36 | brlcad | yep |
| 16:45.38 | cods | jpa-: yes it's. |
| 16:45.50 | KTL | cods: hi :-) |
| 16:45.51 | brlcad | there's a pending /. too so it might get interesting |
| 16:45.56 | JeffM2501 | they have a pill for that kyelewis` |
| 16:46.03 | cods | hey ktl :) |
| 16:46.03 | JeffM2501 | or KTL even |
| 16:46.19 | KTL | :-) |
| 16:46.24 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, you sure that was such a good idea, I would have let the bugs work out |
| 16:46.26 | Nidhoggr | well, at least I have to committed bandwidth to surve a slashdotting this time. :) |
| 16:46.40 | smallfoot- | bzflag dont work |
| 16:46.41 | smallfoot- | shittttt |
| 16:46.44 | Nidhoggr | last time I had to break my piggy bank. :) |
| 16:46.52 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot-, please watch your language |
| 16:46.53 | smallfoot- | it changed my screen to look brighter, but it dont show up the game |
| 16:46.54 | jpa- | cods: try +90 degrees |
| 16:46.55 | smallfoot- | ok, sry |
| 16:47.08 | jpa- | cods: maybe there is a bug with negative rotation etc.. |
| 16:47.17 | bryjen | hmm, relase right before a maintenance window, slashdot before the effect of that have dissapated.... |
| 16:47.21 | bryjen | what timing we have |
| 16:47.49 | djlawler97531 | hey - here is a small problem (maybe) - the ClientAuthentication and LoginMenu files are missing from the gzipped tarball |
| 16:47.59 | cods | jpa-: no, that don't change anything (tested too) |
| 16:48.01 | smallfoot- | damn, bzflag broke my computer, it made it all all the colors |
| 16:48.12 | brlcad | JeffM2501: *shrug* .. prolly not .. but then where's the fun in that |
| 16:48.15 | smallfoot- | damn, bzflag broke my computer, it made it loose all its colors! |
| 16:48.24 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot-, restart |
| 16:48.26 | TheRedBaron | restart the comp smallfoot |
| 16:48.27 | JeffM2501 | use your brain |
| 16:48.33 | smallfoot- | ok |
| 16:48.39 | smallfoot- | but why bzflag wont start? |
| 16:48.48 | JeffM2501 | because you broke something |
| 16:48.54 | JeffM2501 | blow out your config? |
| 16:48.57 | *** join/#bzflag wizart (~wizart@dsl-084-057-012-235.arcor-ip.net) |
| 16:49.00 | smallfoot- | where is my config? |
| 16:49.07 | smallfoot- | i uninstalled the old bzflag and installed the new |
| 16:49.13 | JeffM2501 | what version of AOL are you running? |
| 16:49.19 | smallfoot- | i dont know |
| 16:49.28 | JeffM2501 | in your my documents folder |
| 16:49.30 | bryjen | the "My BZFlag Files" in your "My Documents" |
| 16:49.31 | smallfoot- | ok |
| 16:49.33 | JeffM2501 | there is a folder called that |
| 16:49.35 | JeffM2501 | throw it away |
| 16:49.38 | bryjen | uninstalling doesn't remove it |
| 16:49.40 | smallfoot- | why, does it put that file in my documents?? |
| 16:49.46 | JeffM2501 | because it's a document |
| 16:49.50 | JeffM2501 | and it's yours |
| 16:49.52 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 16:49.52 | smallfoot- | no, its a config file |
| 16:49.53 | JeffM2501 | all yours |
| 16:49.54 | JeffM2501 | just for you |
| 16:49.59 | JeffM2501 | config files are documents too |
| 16:50.01 | smallfoot- | why cant it put it in the bzflag directoy? |
| 16:50.12 | *** join/#bzflag t-s (~ts@pD9EA7BC4.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:50.18 | jpa- | because it is personal :) |
| 16:50.18 | JeffM2501 | because on a limited user windows accoutn you may not hav write access to the app dir |
| 16:50.31 | JeffM2501 | it goes where MS says it should go |
| 16:50.34 | smallfoot- | ofcourse you do |
| 16:50.35 | JeffM2501 | just leave it at that |
| 16:50.39 | *** join/#bzflag Birdie (~birdie@d54C34D0B.access.telenet.be) |
| 16:50.39 | JeffM2501 | no you may not |
| 16:50.43 | smallfoot- | no other programs put config files in my document folder |
| 16:50.47 | smallfoot- | why must bzflag be different? |
| 16:50.52 | JeffM2501 | no they put them in your profile |
| 16:50.53 | TheRedBaron | yes they do |
| 16:50.58 | JeffM2501 | ours is editable by the end user |
| 16:51.03 | JeffM2501 | so for ease of edits |
| 16:51.06 | JeffM2501 | it's put there |
| 16:51.08 | smallfoot- | think if i made a program that put all his config files in the root directory of the system and sent it to you??? |
| 16:51.23 | JeffM2501 | where would you put it? |
| 16:51.29 | djlawler97531 | oh my |
| 16:51.31 | jpa- | ours has to be removed every once in a while when you screw it up, so it is easier to find :) |
| 16:52.00 | JeffM2501 | it realy should be buried in the profile, but then you'd never find it |
| 16:52.05 | smallfoot- | thanks guys, i deleted that config file, from my documents, and now bzflag works!! |
| 16:52.18 | smallfoot- | only problem is that now it put the config file back there again! :(' |
| 16:52.22 | TheRedBaron | yep |
| 16:52.25 | smallfoot- | damn |
| 16:52.29 | JeffM2501 | it auto makes it |
| 16:52.31 | jpa- | it is a new and better conffile |
| 16:52.32 | JeffM2501 | your old config was bad |
| 16:52.37 | jpa- | it should work for a while |
| 16:52.37 | TheRedBaron | every time you run bzflag, it puts that config in |
| 16:52.37 | smallfoot- | yes |
| 16:52.38 | djlawler97531 | but it needs to be there :) |
| 16:52.48 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot-, how old are you? |
| 16:52.53 | smallfoot- | i want it to be C:\Games\BzFlag\ instead |
| 16:52.57 | JeffM2501 | it won't go |
| 16:52.57 | smallfoot- | im 52 |
| 16:53.00 | JeffM2501 | it CAN"T go |
| 16:53.03 | *** join/#bzflag Quol (~Quol@jabber.org.uk) |
| 16:53.03 | smallfoot- | im a noob |
| 16:53.20 | JeffM2501 | then just deal with how it is, and not worry about how you think it shuld be |
| 16:53.34 | jpa- | you can not write to c:\games\bzflag |
| 16:53.36 | JeffM2501 | we can't put configs in the application dir |
| 16:53.42 | jpa- | not on a properly configured system |
| 16:53.47 | JeffM2501 | only system admins can |
| 16:53.53 | JeffM2501 | regular users can only write to the profile |
| 16:54.04 | JeffM2501 | aka the my docs folder and a couple others |
| 16:54.11 | JeffM2501 | every user gets there own config |
| 16:54.14 | JeffM2501 | it's not one per game |
| 16:54.25 | jpa- | on a regular dumpass windows users box, everyone is administrator, though :) |
| 16:54.27 | JeffM2501 | since every user may want difrent setings. |
| 16:54.27 | smallfoot- | damn, i died :( |
| 16:54.31 | brlcad | even I get my own config? |
| 16:54.36 | brlcad | wow |
| 16:54.40 | JeffM2501 | no, brlcad you suck |
| 16:54.47 | brlcad | awwn *sniff* |
| 16:54.53 | JeffM2501 | I put a !brlcad line in there |
| 16:54.57 | brlcad | ~shoot brlcad |
| 16:55.00 | ibot | ACTION shoots brlcad in the ear with a spitwad! |
| 16:55.03 | smallfoot- | yes, im the administrator guy! |
| 16:55.05 | brlcad | eww |
| 16:55.08 | JeffM2501 | yet you get mac versions hat work |
| 16:55.08 | brlcad | the gun was better |
| 16:55.23 | jpa- | brlcad: lol! you really thought we would give you an own config file! :D |
| 16:55.25 | smallfoot- | bzflag sucks, i just played it and i died, and it has green ground, but it has no grass texture |
| 16:55.35 | djlawler97531 | this is better than Comedy Central |
| 16:55.42 | TheRedBaron | true |
| 16:55.42 | jpa- | smallfoot-: it has |
| 16:55.47 | smallfoot- | i didnt see it |
| 16:55.49 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot-, get a new computer |
| 16:55.50 | smallfoot- | to me it was only green |
| 16:55.52 | jpa- | smallfoot-: if you have texturing on :) |
| 16:55.57 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot-, change your setings |
| 16:56.03 | smallfoot- | but the walls had texture on, but not the ground |
| 16:56.05 | smallfoot- | ok, i will do that |
| 16:56.10 | smallfoot- | but my tanks spins :( |
| 16:56.12 | JeffM2501 | it must have detected your crapy computer and set it self low |
| 16:56.16 | jpa- | so what server was you playing on? :) |
| 16:56.16 | smallfoot- | oh |
| 16:56.17 | brlcad | default quality is low for the kiddies |
| 16:56.20 | smallfoot- | but my computer is 900 |
| 16:56.25 | JeffM2501 | like I said |
| 16:56.29 | JeffM2501 | your crapy computer |
| 16:56.32 | smallfoot- | its bad? |
| 16:56.34 | JeffM2501 | what video card |
| 16:56.34 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 16:56.37 | smallfoot- | geforce |
| 16:56.37 | JeffM2501 | that's not fast |
| 16:56.40 | smallfoot- | 4 i think |
| 16:56.44 | JeffM2501 | MX then |
| 16:56.52 | smallfoot- | but 900 is fast to me |
| 16:56.56 | JeffM2501 | well depending on what version of AOL your running, you can change your settings |
| 16:57.10 | smallfoot- | ok, how i change my computer to 3 ghz?? |
| 16:57.11 | JeffM2501 | If I was you, I'd read the manual |
| 16:57.18 | brlcad | Quol: there's a bzfs2 on bzflag.bz should you choose to use it :) |
| 16:57.22 | djlawler97531 | this cannot be real |
| 16:57.31 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, a -r maybe? |
| 16:57.44 | JeffM2501 | sorry +r |
| 16:57.54 | brlcad | ah, confusing me i see |
| 16:57.58 | My[DSMBR | one question |
| 16:57.58 | smallfoot- | also, why does bzflag say in the console that i move the mouse or press a key, everytime i move the mouse or press a key? i dont need to know that, because i already know that, and its very irritating! |
| 16:58.07 | My[DSMBR | what will be with bzflag 1.10? |
| 16:58.08 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot-, if you can't use your basic computer then we can't help you, if your just janking our chains, it's not appriciated. |
| 16:58.15 | *** join/#bzflag wegstar_ (~wegstar@adsl-67-122-113-48.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 16:58.19 | *** part/#bzflag theEnemy (~jifl@cpc3-cmbg5-3-0-cust28.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) |
| 16:58.19 | smallfoot- | i know how to use computer |
| 16:58.21 | smallfoot- | im a hacker! |
| 16:58.22 | My[DSMBR | will it be replaced? |
| 16:58.25 | jpa- | My[DSMBR: we will bury it |
| 16:58.26 | My[DSMBR | by 2.0? |
| 16:58.28 | JeffM2501 | right, smallfoot- |
| 16:58.29 | My[DSMBR | nooo |
| 16:58.30 | jpa- | My[DSMBR: yes |
| 16:58.31 | JeffM2501 | let it go |
| 16:58.34 | wegstar_ | hmm.. sounds like a script kiddy |
| 16:58.36 | brlcad | My[DSMBR: nothing anytime soon -- eventually it will be phased out when the bugs are sorted and fixed |
| 16:58.36 | Pimpinella | is there a way for a user to gain entry to LOCAL.GLOBAL automatically? |
| 16:58.38 | My[DSMBR | i liked gfx on 1.10 better =) |
| 16:58.45 | jpa- | My[DSMBR: it is already being buried in my backyard :) |
| 16:58.47 | smallfoot- | look, i have the newest windows xp with hacker software |
| 16:58.48 | bryjen | brlcad said smallfoot- was a hacker that broker sourceforge ;) |
| 16:58.51 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, *sigh* do me. |
| 16:58.57 | jpa- | what is wrong with 2.0 gfx? :) |
| 16:59.00 | smallfoot- | nuke, clone attack, ping, etc |
| 16:59.05 | wegstar_ | "hacker software"?? |
| 16:59.06 | bryjen | s/broker/broke/ |
| 16:59.08 | smallfoot- | yes |
| 16:59.09 | My[DSMBR | hm i think there's too many colors and so |
| 16:59.11 | Pimpinella | like double identification? |
| 16:59.14 | wegstar_ | heh, funny |
| 16:59.18 | JeffM2501 | then doing a basic thing like reading should not be a problem smallfoot- |
| 16:59.19 | My[DSMBR | and you can't even see the tank itself |
| 16:59.20 | brlcad | JeffM2501: I'm not doing you, even as handsome as you are ;) |
| 16:59.21 | *** part/#bzflag Quol (~Quol@jabber.org.uk) |
| 16:59.23 | My[DSMBR | i'll try something |
| 16:59.25 | My[DSMBR | =P |
| 16:59.28 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, @me |
| 16:59.32 | brlcad | hehe |
| 16:59.37 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by brlcad |
| 16:59.39 | smallfoot- | JeffM2501, i know how to read |
| 16:59.41 | smallfoot- | oh oh |
| 16:59.43 | smallfoot- | :( |
| 16:59.56 | jpa- | smallfoot-: you can remove annoying messages by setting constant input type from input settings |
| 16:59.57 | JeffM2501 | so doomed to repeat myself |
| 16:59.59 | bryjen | smallfoot-: normal windows xp programs hide their config files in deep hidden folders under c:\document and settings\ |
| 17:00.01 | wegstar_ | hehe |
| 17:00.09 | smallfoot- | jpa-, thanks alot!! |
| 17:00.15 | smallfoot- | jpa-, that should be default setting though |
| 17:00.19 | bryjen | bz's isn't so hidden so you can find it to edit it yourself if you need to |
| 17:00.28 | smallfoot- | bryjen, aha that must be why i can never find them |
| 17:00.34 | jpa- | My[DSMBR: you can see te tank itself if you turn "show treads" on :) |
| 17:00.42 | jpa- | smallfoot-: why? |
| 17:00.43 | bryjen | or they poke stuff into the windows registry |
| 17:00.54 | jpa- | smallfoot-: i like to play wiht keys sometimes |
| 17:00.57 | JeffM2501 | well bzflags is not hidden cus I'm lazy :) |
| 17:01.08 | smallfoot- | jpa-, cuz i cant think of anyone who would apprecite the console say to them everytime they move a mouse or press a key, cuz its so obvious |
| 17:01.13 | bryjen | JeffM2501: my explaination sounds better ;) |
| 17:01.17 | jpa- | smallfoot-: stupid |
| 17:01.21 | smallfoot- | why? |
| 17:01.23 | jpa- | smallfoot-: it changes the input type |
| 17:01.26 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot-, patches welcome |
| 17:01.30 | smallfoot- | whats that? |
| 17:01.34 | jpa- | eww |
| 17:01.37 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot-, when do you think you'll have that feature done? |
| 17:01.40 | My[DSMBR | jpa-, i know |
| 17:01.44 | smallfoot- | JeffM2501: 2morro |
| 17:01.47 | jpa- | device it takes input from :) |
| 17:01.48 | My[DSMBR | but it was disturbing for my eyes |
| 17:01.48 | My[DSMBR | =) |
| 17:01.53 | *** join/#bzflag SportyGal (sportygali@67-21-174-30.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 17:01.53 | jpa- | My[DSMBR: yes :) |
| 17:02.02 | My[DSMBR | i copied the .png and these from 1.10 |
| 17:02.03 | jpa- | My[DSMBR: or you could see it on radar with 4 |
| 17:02.05 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot-, ok then see you till then. |
| 17:02.08 | My[DSMBR | to the share file of 2.0 |
| 17:02.09 | smallfoot- | JeffM2501, hey why dont you just comment out that line, where it logs every keystroke and mouse movement to the console? |
| 17:02.12 | My[DSMBR | and it's fine now |
| 17:02.15 | jpa- | :D |
| 17:02.22 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot-, why won't you? you have access to the source? |
| 17:02.28 | bryjen | smallfoot-: because JeffM2501 is lazy |
| 17:02.34 | jpa- | i want a setting for that! |
| 17:02.43 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot-, we only do features for nice people |
| 17:02.48 | brlcad | i'm with lazy |
| 17:02.48 | jpa- | i want to know if i move my mouse :) |
| 17:02.56 | JeffM2501 | like Nidhoggr, he gets all kinds of features |
| 17:02.59 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 17:03.01 | jpa- | smallfoot-: you could hacker to our source and change it |
| 17:03.04 | smallfoot- | JeffM2501: because you are the bzguy, and its you who make bz, and i just play it, and even if i did it, i dont know how to upload it, also why you put that function that logs keystroke and mouse movement in the first place? nobody wants it |
| 17:03.04 | bryjen | brlcad: are you le tired? |
| 17:03.04 | JeffM2501 | I did 3 for him last week |
| 17:03.17 | brlcad | ~bzfrag bryjen |
| 17:03.19 | ibot | ACTION fries bryjen with a laser |
| 17:03.20 | smallfoot- | im not nice?? |
| 17:03.21 | brlcad | fire ze missiles! |
| 17:03.21 | Nidhoggr | did you get le nap, brlcad ? |
| 17:03.23 | brlcad | aww |
| 17:03.25 | jpa- | smallfoot-: i do want it! |
| 17:03.34 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 17:03.35 | brlcad | no missiles.. just a laser |
| 17:03.39 | JeffM2501 | smallfoot-, everyone is difrent, now deal with it and stop spamming the channel with babble, |
| 17:03.45 | jpa- | smallfoot-: i do not move my mouse all the time.. or accidentally press updownetc |
| 17:04.02 | smallfoot- | jpa-: why?? how can like that the console logs every keystroke or mouse movement? you already know when you press a key, you dont need it to tell you "you just pressed a key" eveyrtime you do that |
| 17:04.13 | jpa- | it does not say so |
| 17:04.19 | smallfoot- | yes, it does! |
| 17:04.21 | jpa- | it says "mouse movement |
| 17:04.25 | smallfoot- | whatever |
| 17:04.34 | bryjen | only when you switch from one to the other |
| 17:04.35 | smallfoot- | the point is, it says that obvious, and nobody wants to know that |
| 17:04.37 | jpa- | and it does not react for any keys |
| 17:04.41 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, iit's +q or -q? |
| 17:04.41 | TheRedBaron | don't look at it then smallfoot |
| 17:04.44 | jpa- | it reacts only for cursors |
| 17:04.51 | smallfoot- | but it annoys me so much |
| 17:04.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [+R] by brlcad |
| 17:04.58 | bryjen | there it is |
| 17:05.00 | brlcad | it's +q |
| 17:05.06 | brlcad | sorry folks |
| 17:05.16 | brlcad | registration mode enabled meaning you have to verify in order to chat |
| 17:05.17 | JeffM2501 | and it's /mode #channel mode user ? |
| 17:05.24 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.32 | brlcad | yea |
| 17:06.06 | *** mode/#bzflag [+q *!gorilla*@c-685b70d5.041-5-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] by JeffM2501 |
| 17:06.12 | JeffM2501 | I mean damn |
| 17:06.15 | brlcad | wow, that really turned off the spicket |
| 17:06.22 | bryjen | verily |
| 17:06.23 | *** part/#bzflag jpa- (jpa@box.kapsi.fi) |
| 17:06.29 | Nidhoggr | smote smote |
| 17:06.29 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM2501 -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || Shellshock is revived http://shellshock.bzflag.bz || Thank you, RPG! - http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=26845#26845 || BZFlag 2.0.0 is Released! - Go to http://sf.net/projects/bzflag to download it | Broken mirrors, found also on http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ | register to talk |
| 17:06.46 | JeffM2501 | it puts a small barrier to entry :) |
| 17:07.05 | TheRedBaron | HM |
| 17:07.14 | brlcad | prolly don't want to keep it that way for long |
| 17:07.24 | TheRedBaron | you don't have to use /register command? |
| 17:07.44 | brlcad | TheRedBaron: freenode has a nickserv -- you talk to it |
| 17:07.52 | bryjen | irc register is a little different from bz register |
| 17:08.18 | brlcad | very similar, but more like having a bzadmin client that you /msg admin register blah |
| 17:08.51 | *** mode/#bzflag [-R] by brlcad |
| 17:08.57 | TheRedBaron | can you register a nick with CGI? |
| 17:09.07 | brlcad | CGI? |
| 17:09.09 | bryjen | wha? |
| 17:09.11 | occy | hmm |
| 17:09.14 | brlcad | gateway interface? |
| 17:09.24 | occy | anyone here know where some screenshots of 2.0 can be had? |
| 17:09.25 | occy | :) |
| 17:09.28 | bryjen | TheRedBaron: /msg NickServ help |
| 17:09.33 | brlcad | occy: http://sourceforge.net/project/screenshots.php?group_id=3248 |
| 17:09.43 | occy | also... Ubuntu needs to update their bzflag! |
| 17:09.45 | TheRedBaron | yea, I've done that. and I think it worked. |
| 17:09.48 | *** join/#bzflag mozul (~KBC18135@ct550.aero.org) |
| 17:09.56 | bryjen | NickServ is an irc bot that handles nickname registration |
| 17:10.28 | bryjen | "TheRedBaron is an identified user" Yes, you have |
| 17:10.40 | occy | dang |
| 17:10.48 | occy | those are sweet |
| 17:11.33 | brlcad | that they are |
| 17:11.42 | brlcad | if anyone has some more, please send them my way :) |
| 17:12.17 | brlcad | occy: it almost made this release |
| 17:12.26 | brlcad | it was supposed to |
| 17:12.28 | bryjen | eep 2d bzflag |
| 17:12.31 | occy | brlcad: awww... bummer. |
| 17:12.41 | brlcad | but there were too many problems to work out in time |
| 17:12.51 | occy | ahhh, it's all good. Soon enough I reckon. |
| 17:12.54 | TheRedBaron | radar? did someone mention radar? :) |
| 17:13.12 | blast007 | TheRedBaron: hehe ;) |
| 17:13.13 | occy | I can't wait for someone to make an AALIB BZFlag hack. |
| 17:13.14 | occy | heh |
| 17:13.26 | occy | where you can play bzflag in ascii |
| 17:13.40 | occy | how sick is that? |
| 17:13.42 | occy | :) |
| 17:13.46 | bryjen | hehe. Next we need a "You are Here" billboard |
| 17:13.54 | *** join/#bzflag bz0192 (~4470abed@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 17:14.00 | bryjen | hovering in the air with a big arrow pointing down |
| 17:14.04 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 17:14.15 | TheRedBaron | and have a world weapon frag you |
| 17:14.26 | bryjen | TheRedBaron: that would be "You Were Here" |
| 17:14.29 | bryjen | ;) |
| 17:14.45 | TheRedBaron | yea, give them that message instead of the broken screen |
| 17:14.53 | wegstar_ | heh |
| 17:15.01 | bryjen | or "No Parking" |
| 17:15.27 | JeffM2501 | so our foot friend was hiting keys and mouse all the time, that's why he was geting input mode swaps all the time. |
| 17:15.43 | TheRedBaron | i dont' think he was 52... |
| 17:15.47 | bryjen | its only the arrow keys |
| 17:15.50 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 17:15.57 | JeffM2501 | he was doing both |
| 17:16.09 | bryjen | i donno c:\games\ seems like a DOS-ism |
| 17:16.25 | JeffM2501 | an AOLism :) |
| 17:16.36 | JeffM2501 | he was just pulling whatever chains he can |
| 17:16.43 | *** join/#bzflag jpa- (jpa@box.kapsi.fi) |
| 17:17.00 | bryjen | no, old dos programs used to be self-contained in their own dirs. often at the top level |
| 17:17.07 | jpa- | ok, good decicion to take +R off |
| 17:17.11 | jpa- | it is so useless |
| 17:17.21 | Wilinckx | i'm making a mirror for the bzflag download, is that usefull? |
| 17:17.34 | JeffM2501 | some still do that |
| 17:17.37 | jpa- | Wilinckx: try to get sf.net working, instread :) |
| 17:17.51 | Wilinckx | jpa-: would like to, but i can't :( |
| 17:18.29 | *** join/#bzflag strayer (~s-t-r-a-y@gw-2302c.stunet.tu-freiberg.de) |
| 17:19.20 | *** part/#bzflag djlawler97531 (~djlawler@slip-32-102-154-187.pa.us.prserv.net) |
| 17:19.37 | wegstar_ | I posted up a copy at www.freewebs.com/wegstar/downloads.htm |
| 17:20.24 | wegstar_ | ah... nvm :) |
| 17:21.07 | Nidhoggr | does current code kick on packet loss? |
| 17:21.16 | Nidhoggr | and can you specify the percentage to kick for? |
| 17:21.18 | brlcad | Wilinckx: there are mirrors at http://bzflag.bz/builds/2.0/ and http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ |
| 17:21.35 | Wilinckx | hm ok oops... now there is a 4th one :) |
| 17:21.49 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: it's rather agressive if they're dropping ping packets, iirc |
| 17:22.00 | Wilinckx | have to go to eat now... bye |
| 17:22.08 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 17:22.21 | brlcad | those come like once a minute .. if they drop a bunch of those, I believe they're booted |
| 17:22.28 | jpa- | Nidhoggr: i think it sends one "verify" ping pack and if two sequent pings timeout, it kicks |
| 17:22.35 | Nidhoggr | aaah. |
| 17:23.29 | brlcad | jpa-: that's more harsh than I thought actually |
| 17:24.11 | Nidhoggr | hrm. maybe it should be more configurable. |
| 17:25.07 | brlcad | if that's true, that's just too inflexible even if inprobable |
| 17:25.13 | brlcad | er, imp |
| 17:25.24 | jpa- | i remember some people here talking about it.. |
| 17:25.36 | brlcad | it's exponential, though, so three in a row.. now that i could probably accept |
| 17:25.50 | TheRedBaron | brlcad, you calling me an imp?!? |
| 17:26.22 | brlcad | TheRedBaron: oh no no .. i called you a "G"imp ;) |
| 17:27.26 | *** join/#bzflag mmu_man (revol@ALyon-112-1-18-23.w81-49.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:27.50 | TheRedBaron | eh? what's the difference? |
| 17:28.00 | JeffM2501 | ya go a bum leg |
| 17:28.12 | brlcad | ~dict gimp |
| 17:28.19 | *** join/#bzflag DarthValou (~none@lsn-boi-catv-c113-p155.vtx.ch) |
| 17:28.49 | TheRedBaron | oh, i was thinking of Gimp = adobe photoshop wannabe |
| 17:29.04 | brlcad | crippleware |
| 17:29.25 | TheRedBaron | haha |
| 17:30.40 | wegstar_ | he |
| 17:30.42 | wegstar_ | he |
| 17:31.48 | bryjen | src/game/LagInfo.cxx:129 seems to be where lost pings are factored in |
| 17:32.45 | bryjen | not sure i'm following the logic on that next if |
| 17:33.32 | bryjen | hrm |
| 17:34.43 | bryjen | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.05 | bryjen | err |
| 17:35.06 | Nidhoggr | brlcad: yes, 3 in a row would be more prudent. |
| 17:35.42 | TheRedBaron | yea, 3 strikes and you're out. |
| 17:37.08 | Nidhoggr | as it is, many regular players are getting booted. |
| 17:38.06 | bryjen | so i'm at ping 200 and i had 1 warning 100 pings ago, then i drop one (200) - (100) > 2 * (1) == true, so i get another warning |
| 17:38.34 | bryjen | that woudl make it worse to have infequeny warnings |
| 17:38.42 | bryjen | s/infequeny/infequent/ |
| 17:38.57 | bryjen | as the left side of the > gets bigger then |
| 17:39.22 | bryjen | yeesh. this seems overcomplicated |
| 17:41.22 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 17:41.23 | wegstar_ | ~bzfquery node.game-server.cc:5154 |
| 17:41.31 | wegstar_ | hmm |
| 17:46.32 | *** join/#bzflag Noodle-sensei (~tuckerm@bc186118.bendcable.com) |
| 17:58.11 | brlcad | ~dict imp |
| 17:58.21 | wegstar_ | imp? |
| 17:58.32 | TheRedBaron | lol! |
| 17:58.47 | wegstar_ | a little red devilish creature :) |
| 17:59.19 | TheRedBaron | yep |
| 17:59.29 | TheRedBaron | one definition of it. |
| 18:03.36 | *** join/#bzflag Wilinckx (~willem@ip-81-11-133-169.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 18:08.51 | wegstar_ | heh.. that took some time :) |
| 18:09.09 | *** join/#bzflag Tupone (Tupone@adsl-84-222-137-63.tiscali.it) |
| 18:09.43 | TheRedBaron | i was thinking the same |
| 18:10.00 | TheRedBaron | ibot, feeling a little slow today? |
| 18:10.12 | Nidhoggr | not enough fiber. |
| 18:10.16 | TheRedBaron | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.46 | *** join/#bzflag RedBaron2 (~d8ada652@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 18:13.18 | *** join/#bzflag Privia (~Privia@h000d93444438.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 18:13.40 | brlcad | she's always hating on me |
| 18:14.32 | TheRedBaron | i didn't know bots had genders.... |
| 18:15.01 | brlcad | ~sex |
| 18:15.03 | ibot | I'm male |
| 18:15.06 | brlcad | ~sex |
| 18:15.09 | ibot | I'm gay |
| 18:15.14 | brlcad | ~sex |
| 18:15.17 | ibot | I'm male |
| 18:15.25 | brlcad | heh, poor confused ibot |
| 18:15.29 | DTRemenak | gee. |
| 18:15.46 | DTRemenak | ~sex |
| 18:15.47 | ibot | I'm lesbian |
| 18:15.50 | TheRedBaron | lmao |
| 18:16.01 | JeffM2501 | yeah ibot has gender identity issues |
| 18:16.12 | TheRedBaron | some one is insecure with their sexuality. |
| 18:16.16 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 18:16.17 | JeffM2501 | on the other hand guu is sure of her gender |
| 18:16.17 | brlcad | guu: sex |
| 18:16.17 | guu | sex is very enjoyable |
| 18:16.21 | TheRedBaron | or something |
| 18:16.26 | JeffM2501 | guu gender |
| 18:16.26 | guu | Im all woman baby |
| 18:16.39 | JeffM2501 | guu rocks |
| 18:16.39 | guu | yes I do |
| 18:16.49 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 18:17.11 | TheRedBaron | now i see why you hang out with her jeff... |
| 18:18.00 | *** join/#bzflag |zongo| (~zongo@80-218-159-77.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 18:18.16 | JeffM2501 | she lives under the desk |
| 18:18.49 | *** part/#bzflag mozul (~KBC18135@ct550.aero.org) |
| 18:18.58 | wegstar_ | heh |
| 18:20.00 | TheRedBaron | and jbot? where does it stand? |
| 18:20.02 | JeffM2501 | well not this deskt |
| 18:20.07 | JeffM2501 | jbot and ibot are the same |
| 18:20.12 | wegstar_ | ah |
| 18:20.18 | JeffM2501 | same bot, just 2 names |
| 18:20.21 | TheRedBaron | explains a lot. |
| 18:20.28 | JeffM2501 | guu is a seperate bot |
| 18:20.29 | guu | Bugger all, I dunno. |
| 18:21.05 | JeffM2501 | using a difrent system |
| 18:21.25 | JeffM2501 | guu devcommits timriker |
| 18:21.29 | guu | JeffM2501: wipe out argv[] to trivially hide password, don't re-display it while connecting || ws || eep, fonts || wishful thinking || wishful thinking || bump || close debian bugs || sneak in a comment change || typo || image consistancy || might as well copy em so tars and zips have em || 32x32 || use smaller debian icon || icon for debian and perhaps others || add libcurl- (1 more message) |
| 18:21.36 | JeffM2501 | and she's a lot smarter :) |
| 18:21.41 | wegstar_ | heh |
| 18:22.19 | JeffM2501 | well more like she just plays well with the other children |
| 18:22.22 | JeffM2501 | unlike the ibot |
| 18:22.41 | *** part/#bzflag SnowyDarthy (~none@lsn-boi-catv-c113-p155.vtx.ch) |
| 18:23.02 | Pimpinella | how can i switch bz to background? |
| 18:23.26 | JeffM2501 | the server I asume you mean? |
| 18:23.31 | Pimpinella | no |
| 18:23.36 | Pimpinella | the client |
| 18:23.37 | JeffM2501 | what OS? |
| 18:23.40 | Pimpinella | linux |
| 18:23.56 | JeffM2501 | probably what ever keys your WM uses to change apps |
| 18:24.01 | JeffM2501 | on windows it's alt+tab |
| 18:24.21 | Pimpinella | yeah, here too, doesn't work though :( |
| 18:24.47 | DTRemenak | Pimpinella: hit F1 or F4 |
| 18:25.24 | Pimpinella | yep, it's F4, ty |
| 18:25.28 | DTRemenak | np |
| 18:25.54 | TheRedBaron | is alt-F4 a windows combination only? |
| 18:26.14 | JeffM2501 | thats generates a quit action on windows systems |
| 18:26.17 | JeffM2501 | independent of the app |
| 18:27.17 | TheRedBaron | so the combo of alt-F4 doen't do the same thing on say a mac, or linux deviate? |
| 18:27.28 | JeffM2501 | I would not think so |
| 18:27.41 | JeffM2501 | unless those platforms have done something special to emulate the same behavor as windows. |
| 18:28.01 | JeffM2501 | in windows alt+f4 is the standard way to close an application |
| 18:28.07 | brlcad | TheRedBaron: On OS X, hit F1 to go windowed, then CMD-Tab will let you switch apps |
| 18:28.11 | TheRedBaron | yea. |
| 18:28.13 | wegstar_ | yeah :) |
| 18:28.20 | TheRedBaron | brlcad, thanks |
| 18:28.39 | occy | any debian users here? |
| 18:29.07 | wegstar_ | silence... |
| 18:29.10 | occy | I've done apt-get build-dep bzflag and have got all the deps for compiling bzflag... but how do I compile a deb from src? |
| 18:29.11 | occy | wegstar_: heh |
| 18:30.31 | Nidhoggr | occy: I just download the tarball, and do it by hand. |
| 18:30.35 | Nidhoggr | it always works. |
| 18:31.15 | Nidhoggr | and when it doesn't I can whine in here til it gets fixed. ;) |
| 18:31.19 | occy | Nidhoggr: heh, I guess I could apt-get remove the deb. |
| 18:31.41 | Nidhoggr | off to lunch for me. back in a bit. |
| 18:34.26 | RedBaron2 | same |
| 18:34.39 | orchid | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.04 | orchid | cd into the bzflag/debian directory |
| 18:35.33 | orchid | then type: fakeroot debian/rules binary |
| 18:35.35 | occy | orchid: ok |
| 18:35.42 | orchid | then cd .. |
| 18:35.50 | occy | got fakeroot devscripts and debhelper |
| 18:35.52 | orchid | and you should see some debs |
| 18:35.58 | occy | already had build-essential |
| 18:37.02 | occy | orchid: can't seem to find the src on sf.net (mirrors don't have the file) |
| 18:37.21 | *** join/#bzflag wk (~wk@N449P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 18:37.33 | wk | Hi, some devs here? |
| 18:37.43 | wegstar_away | 10brlcad: 01Wilinckx: there are mirrors at 12http://bzflag.bz/builds/2.0/01 and 12http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/01 |
| 18:37.49 | wegstar_away | there |
| 18:38.14 | wk | I get some strange results while trying to build the cvs version. |
| 18:38.33 | wk | configure concludes with: |
| 18:38.39 | wk | BZFlag-2.0.1.20050118 with the following: |
| 18:38.39 | wk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.39 | wk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.39 | wk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.39 | wk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.41 | wk | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.49 | orchid | occy: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-sourcehandling.en.html |
| 18:38.58 | occy | k, tx |
| 18:38.59 | Tupone | you don't have gl-dev or mesa-dev |
| 18:39.00 | wk | Why to hell should I want to compile it without getting the client build? |
| 18:39.05 | wk | Tupone: thanks |
| 18:39.15 | orchid | !debian version apt-howto |
| 18:39.19 | guu | orchid: 38 matches found: apt-howto (stable: 1.7.7-3); apt-howto (testing: 1.8.10.1-2); apt-howto (unstable: 1.8.10.2-1); apt-howto-ca (testing: 1.8.10.1-2); apt-howto-ca (unstable: 1.8.10.2-1); apt-howto-common (testing: 1.8.10.1-2); apt-howto-common (unstable: 1.8.10.2-1); apt-howto-de (testing: 1.8.10.1-2); apt-howto-de (unstable: 1.8.10.2-1); apt-howto-el (testing: 1.8.10.1-2); apt-howto-el (3 more messages) |
| 18:39.52 | orchid | occy install that, then you have it in /usr/shar/doc/apt-howto/index.html |
| 18:40.55 | orchid | wk: people might only want to compile the server |
| 18:41.35 | wegstar_away | what's the difference between .tar.gz and .tar ?? |
| 18:41.47 | occy | wegstar_away: one is bzipped and the other isn't |
| 18:41.51 | occy | err |
| 18:41.53 | orchid | the former is compressed |
| 18:42.04 | occy | one is gzipped and the other isn't |
| 18:42.04 | wegstar_away | umm ok |
| 18:42.08 | wegstar | heh |
| 18:42.18 | occy | man... can't get the source |
| 18:42.20 | occy | heh |
| 18:42.29 | occy | the mirrors are hosed |
| 18:43.58 | wegstar | so.. tar is an archive, and tar.gz is a compressed archive? |
| 18:44.17 | occy | yes |
| 18:44.24 | occy | that is correct. |
| 18:44.32 | wegstar | ah ok... :) |
| 18:46.16 | orchid | occy you can use apt-spy to find a faster mirror |
| 18:46.40 | occy | orchid: heh, you are the apt God |
| 18:46.55 | orchid | no, I installed the apt-howto |
| 18:51.04 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@DHCP-170-110.caltech.edu) |
| 18:55.31 | TheRedBaron | bah, you're too modest orchid. |
| 18:55.38 | TheRedBaron | ;) |
| 18:59.22 | *** join/#bzflag mother (~45f06abf@rw08.de) |
| 19:01.54 | *** join/#bzflag jme-59 (~jme-59@e232028.upc-e.chello.nl) |
| 19:02.49 | jme-59 | hi.. i have two questions: 1: what's the thing with the grid lines? do they have any real use? 2: is there a beginners guide or something like that? (the wiki didn't help me out) |
| 19:03.15 | Nidhoggr | you can use the experimental graphics mode to get rid of grid lines. |
| 19:03.34 | Nidhoggr | not really sure about a beginner's guide. |
| 19:03.36 | JeffM2501 | they make you feel like your in TRON! |
| 19:03.37 | Tupone | jme-59: did you configured with --enable-debug |
| 19:03.41 | jme-59 | no, they're not a problem, but what's the reason? |
| 19:03.56 | Nidhoggr | dunno :) |
| 19:03.58 | jme-59 | i installed a packaged version from archlinux (www.archlinux.org) |
| 19:04.02 | JeffM2501 | for non texture users |
| 19:04.04 | orchid | jme-59: http://shellshock.bzflag.bz/guides-rookiemoves.html |
| 19:04.08 | JeffM2501 | it helps them see the ground |
| 19:04.18 | JeffM2501 | it made sense in 1995 |
| 19:04.20 | jme-59 | nontexture users? that sounds awesome |
| 19:04.25 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 19:04.27 | jme-59 | i'm going to try it that way |
| 19:04.36 | JeffM2501 | the game is old, so it supported very low end hardware |
| 19:04.38 | Nidhoggr | without textures, it looks kinda like old battle zone. |
| 19:04.38 | jme-59 | no textures! that's oldskool as can be |
| 19:04.49 | jme-59 | okay then, great |
| 19:04.49 | JeffM2501 | the game is 13 yars old |
| 19:04.52 | orchid | Nidhoggr: no tex is awesome for ctf |
| 19:05.01 | Nidhoggr | no tex? |
| 19:05.06 | orchid | textures |
| 19:05.07 | Nidhoggr | ooh |
| 19:05.09 | Nidhoggr | true. |
| 19:05.12 | Nidhoggr | I bet it would be. |
| 19:05.14 | JeffM2501 | no, she bans texax |
| 19:05.18 | JeffM2501 | makes gameplay a lot better :) |
| 19:05.31 | orchid | :) |
| 19:05.36 | Nidhoggr | next we need server definable textures. :) |
| 19:05.37 | Tupone | jme-59: there is a new version |
| 19:05.43 | jme-59 | i played this game a few times.. but i always got shot before i spawned (or so it seemed to me :P), and the 'crash delay' was very frustrating because it took longer than my actual play time |
| 19:05.47 | jme-59 | Tupone, of what? |
| 19:05.57 | Tupone | bzflag |
| 19:06.00 | jme-59 | bzflag, ofcourse |
| 19:06.01 | Tupone | 2.0 |
| 19:06.03 | jme-59 | but newer than what? |
| 19:06.09 | Tupone | yesterday |
| 19:06.17 | jme-59 | it was released.. yesterday? |
| 19:06.22 | Tupone | yeah |
| 19:06.49 | jme-59 | cool. checking it out |
| 19:06.51 | Nidhoggr | it was kinda exciting. :) |
| 19:07.18 | Nidhoggr | I'm considering a new admin message sound. |
| 19:07.28 | Nidhoggr | I can handle this one, but some people don't like it. :) |
| 19:08.46 | Nidhoggr | I wanna see how bzflag works on one of the new macminis. |
| 19:08.50 | jme-59 | i KEEP getting these login windows for the ads on sourceforge.. very annoying |
| 19:08.52 | Tupone | Nidhoggr: if you did, just care with license |
| 19:09.12 | Nidhoggr | Tupone, I made the last one from scratch. |
| 19:09.12 | jme-59 | btw, is there any sf mirror that does have the file? |
| 19:09.18 | Tupone | great :) |
| 19:09.38 | Nidhoggr | I used a klaxon sound, and inverted and manipulated the waveform. |
| 19:10.07 | *** join/#bzflag kpreid (~kpreid@69-169-188-143.bflony.adelphia.net) |
| 19:10.11 | jme-59 | is there an alternative mirror outside of sourceforge? (for the iwndows version?) |
| 19:10.23 | Nidhoggr | jme-59. see /topic |
| 19:10.36 | Nidhoggr | http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ |
| 19:10.46 | jme-59 | ah, ok. thanks |
| 19:11.54 | Nidhoggr | vacation autoresponders are generally a pain. |
| 19:12.02 | Noodle-sensei | tell me about it |
| 19:12.13 | jme-59 | what do(n't) the do? |
| 19:12.35 | Nidhoggr | when you get email, it auto-responds, telling the person you are on vacation. |
| 19:12.40 | Noodle-sensei | i have this one customer that always wants us to set one up when she goes on vacation |
| 19:12.44 | Nidhoggr | they can get in mailing list loops though. |
| 19:16.43 | *** join/#bzflag Wilinckx (~willem@ip-81-11-133-169.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 19:17.00 | Noodle-sensei | i had an autoresponder once that got into a fight with a spam server, neither of which knew how to deal with double-bounces |
| 19:17.03 | Noodle-sensei | :-) |
| 19:17.52 | Noodle-sensei | i woke up that morning to find about 20,000 messages in the queue |
| 19:18.04 | Noodle-sensei | fun stuff |
| 19:18.21 | jme-59 | :| |
| 19:18.24 | jme-59 | ok |
| 19:18.28 | jme-59 | that's called 'being owned' |
| 19:18.45 | jme-59 | not too easy this game |
| 19:18.55 | jme-59 | i hardly know where to go |
| 19:19.01 | jme-59 | ack, i'll do some more reading |
| 19:19.04 | Noodle-sensei | i've had my licks on the spammers before tho :-) |
| 19:20.22 | Noodle-sensei | i wrote a fake smtp server once, had lots of fun with it |
| 19:20.43 | *** join/#bzflag cosmos (~cosmos@valentino.hepcat.org) |
| 19:21.34 | jme-59 | what's the whole idea of the flags in this game? i saw some gray ones and a red one |
| 19:22.59 | wegstar | ? |
| 19:23.33 | *** join/#bzflag S1gn (~ngis@bzq-179-177-221.pop.bezeqint.net) |
| 19:23.42 | S1gn | hello |
| 19:24.11 | S1gn | where to get maps editor for linux? |
| 19:24.12 | wegstar | hi |
| 19:24.47 | orchid | jme-59: the color ones belong to teams |
| 19:24.52 | wegstar | http://www.icosaedro.it/bze/ |
| 19:25.19 | S1gn | wegstar: 10x |
| 19:25.31 | wegstar | ? |
| 19:25.33 | Noodle-sensei | Sign: there isn't a decent one for linux |
| 19:25.54 | Noodle-sensei | and the one for windows is slightly out of date, iirc |
| 19:26.16 | Wilinckx | jme-59: yes, the colors are to have ctf, capture the flag, where two ore more themes are playing against each other and trying to get the flag(s) of other team(s) to their base |
| 19:26.29 | S1gn | wegstar: 10x=thanx |
| 19:26.30 | Wilinckx | jme-59: the grays are to have e.g. laser, shockwave, wings, cloaking, ... |
| 19:26.46 | orchid | jme-59: also check out the in game help menu, page down to see all of it |
| 19:26.55 | jme-59 | hmm, i see |
| 19:27.05 | jme-59 | but i was being stupid. i thought i was on the red team so i killed 3 blue tanks |
| 19:27.09 | jme-59 | before i got kicked |
| 19:27.10 | Wilinckx | jme-59: ik heb een verouderde tutor dat alles uitlegt in't nederlands, maar moet hem nog updaten naar versie 2.0 :) |
| 19:27.22 | jme-59 | Wilinckx, te gek |
| 19:27.26 | Wilinckx | :) |
| 19:27.29 | *** join/#bzflag Quol (~Miranda@modemcable103.129-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 19:27.55 | orchid | jme-59: your name in the top left corner is in the color of the team your on :) |
| 19:27.59 | Wilinckx | jme-59: http://home.hccnet.nl/willem.penninckx/bzflag/ , maar dus ondertussen al verouderd, bzflag evolueert te snel :) |
| 19:28.06 | *** join/#bzflag gina (~gigi@86.167-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 19:28.12 | gina | congrats |
| 19:28.18 | Nidhoggr | hi gina |
| 19:28.36 | gina | for the release :P |
| 19:28.38 | gina | hi Nidhoggr |
| 19:28.55 | Wilinckx | gtg, have to read a book for school for english :S |
| 19:29.33 | gina | what is that about "not found artificial intelligence for bz's robots" |
| 19:30.05 | Nidhoggr | gina: I get that, too. I dunno what that means, either. :) |
| 19:30.14 | gina | practical joke i think |
| 19:30.20 | Nidhoggr | very well could be. |
| 19:30.21 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 19:30.31 | gina | <=== dumb g |
| 19:30.45 | gina | <=== not artificial |
| 19:30.52 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 19:30.55 | jme-59 | i killed one, i killed one! two even! yay! hey! okay! |
| 19:31.05 | Nidhoggr | good work, jme-59 |
| 19:31.58 | Noodle-sensei | wings is the single coolest flag |
| 19:32.00 | Noodle-sensei | _ever_ |
| 19:32.38 | gina | i stick too CS |
| 19:32.46 | jme-59 | but i'm not entirely sure how to play this game. stealthy or brute force? burst fire or spray? |
| 19:32.50 | Noodle-sensei | what is CS? |
| 19:33.08 | Noodle-sensei | jme-59: use a combination of all of them |
| 19:33.12 | Noodle-sensei | whatever works best for you |
| 19:33.17 | jme-59 | hmm |
| 19:33.18 | jme-59 | okay |
| 19:33.39 | gina | cloaking stealth |
| 19:33.52 | jme-59 | i know that with cs (which is counter strike) you have to use burst fire, with quake 3, going stealth is useless |
| 19:34.11 | *** part/#bzflag Quol (~Miranda@modemcable103.129-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 19:34.12 | wegstar | a suicidal burst.. |
| 19:34.17 | mother | learner around? |
| 19:34.24 | wegstar | dive into a group of tanks and spray away :) |
| 19:34.33 | wegstar | very effective... |
| 19:35.00 | Noodle-sensei | jme-59: bz isn't a twitch game like quake |
| 19:35.16 | jme-59 | hmm |
| 19:35.19 | jme-59 | i think i've got the basics |
| 19:35.20 | *** join/#bzflag hosti (~51f319d5@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 19:35.30 | hosti | hi all |
| 19:35.53 | hosti | anyone downloaded the bzflag 2.0 version ? |
| 19:35.57 | Noodle-sensei | yes |
| 19:35.59 | jme-59 | yeah, me |
| 19:36.03 | |zongo| | sure thing |
| 19:36.04 | Noodle-sensei | froggie rain r00ls |
| 19:36.12 | hosti | where can i find a 2.0 server ? |
| 19:36.17 | occy | cool... got 2.0 |
| 19:36.20 | hosti | the list only shows old servers |
| 19:36.20 | Noodle-sensei | there are plenty up now |
| 19:36.24 | occy | any way to change the actual font? |
| 19:36.32 | occy | the default font is quite blurry and icky poo |
| 19:36.41 | hosti | i want to see rain in my game |
| 19:36.51 | Noodle-sensei | hosti: rain is a server option |
| 19:36.56 | hosti | oh |
| 19:37.17 | Noodle-sensei | my.bzflag.org is still using the old list |
| 19:37.23 | DTRemenak | occy: http://131.215.170.125/fonts/ see the "How to use alternative font sets" section |
| 19:37.27 | hosti | i also think that |
| 19:37.40 | Noodle-sensei | which means i need to get my ass in gear and update BZFlag::Info |
| 19:37.59 | DTRemenak | occy: I'd suggest "set consolefont profont" personally |
| 19:38.11 | *** join/#bzflag blast007_school (~c6964c04@rw08.de) |
| 19:38.15 | hosti | anyway, the graphics are improved here |
| 19:38.29 | hosti | just the key problem is a pain in... |
| 19:39.16 | occy | DTRemenak: yessir |
| 19:39.27 | hosti | :) |
| 19:40.50 | Noodle-sensei | it's warm today ^_^ |
| 19:40.55 | occy | hmm |
| 19:40.58 | Noodle-sensei | !weather krdm |
| 19:41.00 | guu | Noodle-sensei: The current temperature in Roberts, Oregon is 55°F (10:56 AM PST on January 18, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 72%. Dew Point: 46°F. Pressure: 30.34 in (1027 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 2 out of 12 |
| 19:41.04 | Noodle-sensei | weeeeee |
| 19:41.06 | occy | that's Bitstream Vera Mono ? doesn't look like it... |
| 19:41.56 | DTRemenak | occy: default is vera mono bold, yes |
| 19:42.16 | Thumper_ | 31 servers are running 2.0 |
| 19:42.58 | occy | ahhhh I see the anti-aliased zip fonts thingy |
| 19:43.02 | hosti | say, can i ask how i tune my bzflag in on new servers, i.e serverlist = only new 2.0 servers |
| 19:43.25 | Thumper_ | bzflag2.0 only shows 2.0 servers in the list |
| 19:43.26 | Noodle-sensei | hosti: do you have the 2.0 client? |
| 19:43.32 | hosti | jup |
| 19:43.33 | hosti | yup |
| 19:43.41 | Thumper_ | then everything you see is a 2.0 server |
| 19:43.46 | Noodle-sensei | then you should only be seeing 2.0 servers |
| 19:43.52 | hosti | no, it's not |
| 19:44.01 | Noodle-sensei | hosti: take a screenshot of the serverlist |
| 19:44.08 | hosti | i can see my conventional game |
| 19:44.20 | DTRemenak | hosti: a lot of the older servers are upgrading |
| 19:44.35 | DTRemenak | e.g. secretplace is running both 1.10 and 2.0 versions right now |
| 19:44.38 | hosti | hmmm ........ perhaps |
| 19:44.46 | Thumper_ | old servers are running on the 2.0 server (old maps) |
| 19:44.49 | occy | DTRemenak: can I make a ~/.bzf/2.0/fonts dir or something? or do I have to put them in place globally on my box? |
| 19:44.50 | DTRemenak | if you can join it, it's the right version :) |
| 19:44.53 | Thumper_ | but there are some new ones too |
| 19:44.54 | Noodle-sensei | 2.0 isn't compatible with 1.10 |
| 19:45.18 | hosti | can you tell me the name of a new one ? |
| 19:45.24 | DTRemenak | occy: you can put them locally. I'd suggest the profont that comes with bzflag though, rather than the one on that site. |
| 19:45.27 | Thumper_ | bzflag.norang.ca:25154 |
| 19:45.30 | jpa- | brlcad: you once said "if you have bandwidth problems, i can help" |
| 19:45.41 | jpa- | brlcad: well, i have a lot of bandwidth probs :) |
| 19:45.47 | occy | ok |
| 19:45.47 | DTRemenak | occy: I don't remember the specifics of where they have to go locally |
| 19:45.49 | Thumper_ | jpa :) |
| 19:45.58 | jpa- | the server behind 100M wont run bzfs |
| 19:46.02 | DTRemenak | could be ~/.bzf/data/fonts |
| 19:46.06 | jpa- | and i do not have other to consider |
| 19:46.49 | DTRemenak | jpa-: why won't it run bzfs, just out of curiosity? |
| 19:47.01 | *** join/#bzflag blast007_ (~blast@dialup-4.158.201.162.Dial1.Chicago1.Level3.net) |
| 19:47.39 | jpa- | DTRemenak: because it gives strange errors while loading map |
| 19:47.43 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/platform/SDLMedia.cxx: Init outputBuffer to NULL, avoiding segfault at exit |
| 19:48.07 | jpa- | on completely strange lines "incomplete object" |
| 19:48.17 | jpa- | same map works fine on other computer with 2.0 |
| 19:48.21 | DTRemenak | hm |
| 19:48.31 | jpa- | i dont know if it is because it is a smp computer? |
| 19:48.34 | occy | DTRemenak: ProFont is it? |
| 19:48.37 | jpa- | could that matter? |
| 19:48.46 | occy | set consoleFont ProFont |
| 19:48.46 | occy | set sansSerifFont ProFont |
| 19:48.46 | occy | set serifFont ProFont |
| 19:49.02 | occy | returns a really nasty ugly font. :) |
| 19:49.27 | DTRemenak | occy: I'd say just consoleFont :) |
| 19:49.31 | occy | ahh |
| 19:49.41 | DTRemenak | sansSerifFont is the menus |
| 19:49.49 | DTRemenak | serifFont is the HUD alerts |
| 19:50.00 | DTRemenak | proFont is small, those are both supposed to be big :) |
| 19:50.27 | *** join/#bzflag Quol (~Quol@jabber.org.uk) |
| 19:50.29 | jme-59 | i know the idea behind ctf.. now i was in this map which has a large building in the middle, and on the map there were colored dots at the edges. but i could only find a flag at the green dot, which was my own.. did a do anything wrong?" |
| 19:51.20 | jme-59 | i was the only player |
| 19:51.44 | Legoguy | yes, i designed profont for the console, nothing else.. |
| 19:52.14 | Legoguy | well i didn't design it, but i created the bzflag version with only the console in mind |
| 19:52.33 | DTRemenak | jme-59: if you're the only player, only your flag will be present |
| 19:52.48 | hosti | ok, i'm out. su all |
| 19:53.11 | |zongo| | cu |
| 19:56.12 | *** part/#bzflag Quol (~Quol@jabber.org.uk) |
| 19:56.40 | jpa- | how do i compile bzfs without optimisations? |
| 19:57.01 | jme-59 | ok, DTRemenak, thanks |
| 19:57.03 | jpa- | oh, found |
| 19:59.14 | jpa- | ok |
| 19:59.23 | *** join/#bzflag Quol (~Quol@jabber.org.uk) |
| 19:59.33 | jpa- | i cant compile on double pentium 4 / 2.8GHz without setting -O0 |
| 19:59.41 | gina | connected to aereal map but could not spawn |
| 20:00.44 | *** part/#bzflag Quol (~Quol@jabber.org.uk) |
| 20:03.25 | *** part/#bzflag wk (~wk@N449P020.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 20:04.12 | *** join/#bzflag Quol (~Quol@jabber.org.uk) |
| 20:05.05 | *** part/#bzflag Quol (~Quol@jabber.org.uk) |
| 20:05.37 | wegstar | gina: i know |
| 20:05.46 | wegstar | I'm trying to fix that problem... |
| 20:10.00 | gina | nahh |
| 20:14.14 | ruskie | don't tell me let me guess sf is still in maintenance mode right? |
| 20:15.42 | *** join/#bzflag [dmp] (~dennis@port151.ds1-aboes.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 20:16.04 | Nidhoggr | if you want an answer to a question, never start the sentence with "don't tell me". :) |
| 20:16.06 | *** join/#bzflag Quol (~Quol@jabber.org.uk) |
| 20:16.35 | *** part/#bzflag Quol (~Quol@jabber.org.uk) |
| 20:16.42 | ruskie | well I hope I get dri going now... by then I'll be able to play bzflag 2 |
| 20:17.56 | *** join/#bzflag Quol (~Miranda@modemcable103.129-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 20:21.00 | *** join/#bzflag djlawler97531 (~41de8202@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 20:21.53 | cods | hmm, is it possible to map scroll wheel to zoom level ? |
| 20:23.08 | Tupone | why not press shift |
| 20:24.04 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (~timr@TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 20:24.05 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 20:24.38 | cods | why not RTFM you mean ? Because I forgot this step :p Thx. |
| 20:24.56 | *** join/#bzflag Grumbler (~381047b6@grumbler.bronze.supporter.pdpc) |
| 20:25.24 | Grumbler | register to talk? |
| 20:25.26 | cods | however, zoom without shift would be more usefull, and faster change too. |
| 20:25.50 | Tupone | I liked to scroll chat area :) |
| 20:25.53 | Nidhoggr | Grumbler: the channel was +R earler. |
| 20:25.57 | Tupone | and I did that way |
| 20:26.09 | Tupone | you can remap in the config |
| 20:26.14 | Grumbler | ah |
| 20:26.34 | jpa- | hmphmhphm |
| 20:27.00 | jpa- | i want some devs to talk to about this strange situation i'm having :) |
| 20:27.15 | jpa- | but now i have to sleep |
| 20:27.26 | Grumbler | so they will talk behind your back |
| 20:28.19 | jpa- | Legoguy and Nidhoggr should have enough information, if trepan_away or other are intressed :) |
| 20:28.31 | Legoguy | *nod* |
| 20:29.11 | Grumbler | man, its so cold here right now, its almost like being back at school.....without the liquid refreshments |
| 20:29.27 | Grumbler | !weather potsdam,ny |
| 20:29.29 | guu | Grumbler: The current temperature in Potsdam, New York is -13°F (3:00 PM EST on January 18, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 70%. Dew Point: -13°F. UV: 1 out of 12 |
| 20:29.51 | Grumbler | !weather annapolis,md |
| 20:29.53 | guu | Grumbler: The current temperature in Annapolis, Maryland is 23°F (2:54 PM EST on January 18, 2005). Conditions: Clear. Humidity: 37%. Dew Point: 0°F. Pressure: 30.63 in (1037 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 2 out of 12 |
| 20:29.56 | orange | -13 is quite cold :-) |
| 20:30.05 | Grumbler | school was hell |
| 20:30.18 | Grumbler | ice cold, and no snow |
| 20:30.53 | *** join/#bzflag Quol_Simo (~quolsimo@modemcable103.129-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 20:31.01 | orange | the solution is, don't live in the polar regions :-) |
| 20:31.11 | orange | although, we got down to +20F last night |
| 20:31.19 | orange | that's cold for us here in Georgia |
| 20:31.26 | Grumbler | cant grow oranges in that weather |
| 20:33.18 | Grumbler | if the wind wasnt so strong, it might be ok. |
| 20:33.56 | orange | at -13F? No, I don't think that'd be OK for me even without wind. |
| 20:34.29 | *** join/#bzflag biffiford (~biffiford@user-0ccsvia.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 20:34.58 | Grumbler | heh, potsdam was school.........and that is where i first encountered frostbite........and learned that trying to install an engine block heater in -20F weather is pretty much useless |
| 20:35.32 | djlawler97531 | painful too i'm sure |
| 20:38.10 | Grumbler | in both cases yes.....but that is ancient history |
| 20:40.10 | wegstar | !weather 94030 |
| 20:40.12 | guu | wegstar: The current temperature in Millbrae, California is 52°F (11:56 AM PST on January 18, 2005). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 48°F. Pressure: 30.32 in (1027 hPa). Visibility: 7.0 miles (11.3 kilometers). UV: 2 out of 12 |
| 20:40.19 | *** join/#bzflag david_v (~david_v@c-4ebae055.17-1-64736c11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:41.23 | *** join/#bzflag Quol (~Miranda@modemcable103.129-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 20:41.34 | Grumbler | trying out a new irc client quol |
| 20:41.47 | Quol_Simo | heh - ya |
| 20:42.08 | Grumbler | and is it smaller, faster, and easier? |
| 20:42.27 | Quol_Simo | trying to get this silly thing working - it is smaller, seems fast, I don't know about easier - no docs |
| 20:43.43 | david_v | TimRiker: stats.bzflag.org has no bz 2.0 support, fortix.bzflag.org/list.php has, would you (or someone else) mind adding a link to the latter from the bzflag.og homepage? news entry or so |
| 20:44.17 | david_v | *bzflag.org ... |
| 20:48.52 | *** join/#bzflag SilverFox (SilverFox@68-116-47-254.or.charter.com) |
| 20:48.58 | creeperz | i cant get 2.0 from any of the SF mirrors :-/ |
| 20:49.01 | SportyGal | !weather 90277 |
| 20:49.03 | guu | SportyGal: The current temperature in Redondo Beach, California is 81°F (11:47 AM PST on January 18, 2005). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 43°F. Pressure: 30.18 in (1022 hPa). Visibility: 40.0 miles (64.4 kilometers). UV: 2 out of 12 |
| 20:49.05 | SportyGal | thanks guu |
| 20:49.06 | guu | I don't have a clue. |
| 20:50.26 | creeperz | anyone got a 2.0 installer i could get? |
| 20:50.34 | creeperz | none of the sf mirrors are workin for me |
| 20:50.39 | *** join/#bzflag DarthValou (~none@lsn-boi-catv-c113-p155.vtx.ch) |
| 20:50.41 | DTRemenak | see the topic. http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ |
| 20:51.04 | creeperz | thanks |
| 20:51.06 | *** part/#bzflag DarthValou (~none@lsn-boi-catv-c113-p155.vtx.ch) |
| 20:55.21 | ruskie | hmm does bzflag require opengl and glut or only opengl? |
| 20:55.44 | Tupone | opengl and glu |
| 20:55.51 | ruskie | tnx |
| 20:56.07 | Tupone | not glut |
| 20:56.42 | ruskie | so it doesn't need stuff like open/free glut? |
| 20:56.48 | Tupone | nope |
| 20:56.58 | *** join/#bzflag Noodleman (~tuckerm@bc186118.bendcable.com) |
| 20:57.00 | ruskie | tnx |
| 20:57.37 | ruskie | since glu get's build by nvidia/ati/dri drivers I guess it only needs those... |
| 20:59.43 | TimRiker | david_v: I'd rather someone(tm) patches update.pl on stats.bzflag.org |
| 21:01.33 | |zongo| | can some1 tell me where is the .bzf directory located on MacOSX? |
| 21:01.37 | *** part/#bzflag Quol_Simo (~quolsimo@modemcable103.129-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 21:01.49 | |zongo| | the .bzf for 2.0 of course |
| 21:06.24 | *** part/#bzflag Privia (~Privia@h000d93444438.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 21:12.54 | *** join/#bzflag Quol (~Quol@modemcable103.129-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 21:14.28 | cods | Can someone confirm that bzflag is right by checking sign of m[0][0] * m[1][1] * m[2][2] of the matrix m used to transform an object, to decide to swap CCW/CW to select visible face ? |
| 21:15.25 | cods | I know I'm probably wrong at supposing that it could be incorrect, but I can't find anything on web to check this fact. |
| 21:18.28 | JeffM2501 | what are you trying to do? |
| 21:18.59 | cods | trying to figure what's wrong in #1104614 |
| 21:19.10 | cods | mainly because I'm just curious |
| 21:19.16 | cods | I don't pretend to be able to fix anything. |
| 21:19.25 | JeffM2501 | I asume that's a bug number? |
| 21:19.31 | cods | yep, on SF |
| 21:19.34 | cods | sorry |
| 21:20.22 | JeffM2501 | 1,-1,0 is not a unit vector |
| 21:20.30 | JeffM2501 | do we normalise it before it's used? |
| 21:20.36 | cods | yes |
| 21:21.04 | *** join/#bzflag sgk284 (~sgk284@ws71.cs.drexel.edu) |
| 21:21.09 | sgk284 | hello |
| 21:21.12 | JeffM2501 | oh it's for arc prim |
| 21:21.16 | wegstar | HI |
| 21:21.56 | TimRiker | guu: bug #1104614 |
| 21:21.58 | cods | but arc or not, the problem is related to the matrix. I mean the problem is the same for any objects. |
| 21:22.15 | TimRiker | guu: sf bug #1104614 |
| 21:22.26 | JeffM2501 | if your in a mesh, you don't need to use spin, since you can just pretransform your model |
| 21:22.29 | TimRiker | guu: sf bug 1104614 |
| 21:22.34 | wegstar | heh |
| 21:22.36 | TimRiker | lame bot. ;-) |
| 21:22.46 | JeffM2501 | guu bugs 1104614 |
| 21:22.52 | bryjen | ~ibot bug 1104614 |
| 21:22.55 | cods | JeffM2501: the problem is to fix spin.. |
| 21:23.06 | JeffM2501 | don't use spin :) |
| 21:23.16 | creeperz | !weather 57350 |
| 21:23.16 | JeffM2501 | pretransform the verts in your modeler |
| 21:23.17 | guu | creeperz: The current temperature in Huron, South Dakota is 46°F (2:55 PM CST on January 18, 2005). Conditions: Partly Cloudy. Humidity: 66%. Dew Point: 36°F. Wind: WNW at 23 mph (37 km/h). Pressure: 29.77 in (1008 hPa). Visibility: 10.0 miles (16.1 kilometers). UV: 1 out of 12 |
| 21:23.24 | JeffM2501 | guu tracker 1104614 |
| 21:23.33 | creeperz | warmin up a bit |
| 21:23.37 | JeffM2501 | guu help tracker |
| 21:23.38 | guu | JeffM2501: (tracker <id>) -- Returns a description of the tracker with id <id> and the corresponding url. |
| 21:23.46 | JeffM2501 | guu help bugs |
| 21:23.47 | guu | JeffM2501: (bugs [--{any,open,closed,deleted,pending}] [<project>]) -- Returns a list of the most recent bugs filed against <project>. <project> is not needed if there is a default project set. Search defaults to open bugs. |
| 21:23.59 | JeffM2501 | ahh bugs dosn't do specific one |
| 21:24.01 | JeffM2501 | guu bugs open |
| 21:24.01 | cods | JeffM2501: 1] I don't use modeler, 2] I just want to point that spin or matrix stuff is probably wrong. |
| 21:24.06 | guu | JeffM2501: No trackers were found. |
| 21:24.16 | JeffM2501 | cods, maybe you should :) |
| 21:24.32 | cods | I don't want.. |
| 21:24.46 | cods | I just want to see how such behavior can be fixed. |
| 21:24.47 | JeffM2501 | I don't want a lot of things but I still have to do em |
| 21:25.03 | cods | i'm not clear.. |
| 21:25.05 | JeffM2501 | step thru in a debuger and see where it goes wonkey |
| 21:25.10 | JeffM2501 | that would be the best thing |
| 21:25.18 | cods | no.. it's just a math problem. |
| 21:25.24 | JeffM2501 | it may not even be the matrix, it may be a problem in code that fills in the matrix. |
| 21:25.26 | cods | a debuggeur don't help me for that. |
| 21:25.28 | cods | -u |
| 21:25.37 | JeffM2501 | a debuger tells you what is realy happening |
| 21:25.37 | Thumper_ | hmmm did anyone announce bzflag 2.0 on slashdot? |
| 21:25.49 | cods | I dump the matrix and the flag inverted on stdout.. |
| 21:25.50 | ruskie | I hope not |
| 21:25.52 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10db/support/BZFlag/Info.pm: add 2.0.x support |
| 21:26.05 | sgk284 | ping TimRiker |
| 21:26.07 | cods | JeffM2501: I know about debbuging software.. |
| 21:26.14 | JeffM2501 | is the results of the transofmration right when points are shoved thru the matrix? |
| 21:26.19 | JeffM2501 | or is the matrix wrong? |
| 21:26.28 | *** join/#bzflag creeperz (~creeperz@host-40-145-230-24.midco.net) |
| 21:26.29 | JeffM2501 | or is the input to the matrix wrong? |
| 21:26.30 | Nidhoggr | if we announce it before sourceforge gets their stuff together, then we are going to get a bad response. |
| 21:26.36 | cods | the object is correctly transformed. The only thing that it's wrong is the CCW/CW flag. |
| 21:26.47 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery warri1.dyndns.org:5154 |
| 21:26.49 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 21:26.52 | sgk284 | Thumper_, nope |
| 21:27.07 | Thumper_ | didn't think so... |
| 21:27.21 | sgk284 | yea lets mirror it on Nid's server :) (i'm kidding) |
| 21:27.24 | *** join/#bzflag lala_bzflag (LayZee@pD9FFBEEC.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:27.28 | Thumper_ | true - I wasn't planning on doing it... just asking |
| 21:27.42 | Nidhoggr | ~lart sgk284 |
| 21:27.48 | sgk284 | lol |
| 21:28.12 | ruskie | how about mirroring it on slashdot itself... for slashdot to get slashdoted |
| 21:28.47 | Nidhoggr | when it's announced, I'll feel the burn enough as it is. :) |
| 21:28.55 | lala_bzflag | hoi |
| 21:29.12 | ruskie | Nidhoggr, pull the cable when it's announced :)) |
| 21:29.23 | Nidhoggr | heh... that might be bad :) |
| 21:30.01 | Nidhoggr | I can do a "killall bzfs" :) |
| 21:30.06 | sgk284 | heh |
| 21:30.10 | Nidhoggr | that way the list server will still be running. |
| 21:31.19 | sgk284 | and bzbb :) |
| 21:31.22 | SportyGal | !weather 90277 |
| 21:31.24 | guu | SportyGal: The current temperature in Redondo Beach, California is 81°F (11:47 AM PST on January 18, 2005). Conditions: Mostly Cloudy. Humidity: 26%. Dew Point: 43°F. Pressure: 30.18 in (1022 hPa). Visibility: 40.0 miles (64.4 kilometers). UV: 2 out of 12 |
| 21:31.37 | sgk284 | Nidhoggr, did you migrate all of the admin to the global scheme yet? |
| 21:31.49 | Nidhoggr | yes... the ones that emailed me that they registered. |
| 21:31.51 | SportyGal | ~weather klax |
| 21:31.59 | wegstar | wow |
| 21:32.00 | sgk284 | Nidhoggr, i ask because timpson texas authenticated last night but wasn't given admin rights |
| 21:32.04 | wegstar | !weather 94030 |
| 21:32.07 | guu | wegstar: The current temperature in Millbrae, California is 52°F (12:56 PM PST on January 18, 2005). Conditions: Mist. Humidity: 88%. Dew Point: 48°F. Wind: NNE at 7 mph (11 km/h). Pressure: 30.30 in (1026 hPa). Visibility: 5.0 miles (8.0 kilometers). UV: 3 out of 12 |
| 21:32.15 | Nidhoggr | did he have a + by his name? |
| 21:32.19 | sgk284 | yes |
| 21:32.23 | Nidhoggr | let me look. |
| 21:32.58 | sgk284 | but he also had "[TLZ]" and TimRiker said in his announcement that only [.a-zA-z0-9] were allowed :) |
| 21:33.24 | Nidhoggr | that would be texas hunter |
| 21:33.34 | sgk284 | oops sorry... |
| 21:33.35 | Nidhoggr | he's only on the boards as Texas Hunter |
| 21:33.39 | sgk284 | them texans are all the same to me :) |
| 21:33.58 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 21:34.02 | wegstar | hehe |
| 21:34.18 | sgk284 | oh okay, he was wondering why last night and I told him I'd look into it for him |
| 21:34.41 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ControlPanel.cxx: Fixing console when reselecting same tab |
| 21:35.27 | wegstar | ah |
| 21:36.53 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 21:36.57 | Nidhoggr | I found him on the forums. |
| 21:36.58 | Nidhoggr | and added. |
| 21:37.07 | Nidhoggr | dunno if it will work or not. |
| 21:37.36 | sgk284 | k |
| 21:40.17 | bryjen | cvs is still sloooow |
| 21:41.20 | Nidhoggr | just added 6yob's new callsign to admins. |
| 21:41.24 | Nidhoggr | err ops |
| 21:42.14 | sgk284 | i belive he was asked to change that name just FYI but for now its still 6yob :) |
| 21:43.45 | Nidhoggr | actually, he changed it. |
| 21:43.51 | Nidhoggr | for the new stuff. |
| 21:43.54 | Nidhoggr | Jormungandr. |
| 21:43.55 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 21:43.59 | sgk284 | oh yea thats right |
| 21:44.03 | Nidhoggr | he also registered fafnir. |
| 21:44.06 | *** join/#bzflag Thumper- (~bernt@CPE000102d0fe24-CM0012256ecbde.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 21:44.07 | Nidhoggr | but I didn't add that one. |
| 21:44.16 | sgk284 | heh thats fine, he lost the password to it |
| 21:44.24 | sgk284 | i guess he didn't talk to you yet or he found it |
| 21:44.38 | sgk284 | fafnir that is |
| 21:44.41 | Nidhoggr | aah |
| 21:45.22 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery 65.221.51.21:5256 |
| 21:45.33 | Nidhoggr | does bzfquery work for 2.0 now? |
| 21:46.26 | Nidhoggr | ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 21:46.31 | Nidhoggr | w00 |
| 21:46.32 | Nidhoggr | yep |
| 21:46.33 | Nidhoggr | :) |
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| 21:49.50 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery bzflag.sleepycows.us:5165 |
| 21:50.59 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10db/support/bzupdate.pl: ws |
| 21:51.14 | SilverFox | so, if you have "+f good", what if you want to add 2 of each good? |
| 21:51.17 | SilverFox | or 3, or so on. |
| 21:53.21 | bryjen | +f good{2} |
| 21:53.31 | bryjen | be careful, they add up fast |
| 21:54.26 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03timriker * 10db/support/BZFlag/Info.pm: update to 2.0, show single player servers |
| 21:55.17 | *** join/#bzflag Gokee2 (~Gokee2@24-113-12-97.wavecable.com) |
| 21:55.30 | Gokee2 | Hi all |
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| 21:59.10 | TimRiker | http://my.bzflag.org/ now track 2.0 servers as well. |
| 21:59.23 | Nidhoggr | yay |
| 21:59.51 | TimRiker | really need to build that feature into bzfls.php and kill bzupdate.pl |
| 22:00.03 | TimRiker | ah well. meeting calls... |
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| 22:01.59 | cods | About spin thing.. is the following correct http://tuxee.net/polarity.txt ? |
| 22:02.16 | cods | in case it's not wrong, I will add the example in the bug report. |
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| 22:02.31 | Gokee2 | What is bzflag? |
| 22:02.34 | SilverFox | bryjen, hehe... take a look at hepcat.tybox.net:5154 (1.10) |
| 22:02.51 | SilverFox | Gokee2, http://bzflag.org |
| 22:03.35 | Gokee2 | hmm ok |
| 22:04.00 | Gokee2 | Whenever that is :/ |
| 22:04.18 | Gokee2 | Firefox is froze till then |
| 22:07.20 | blast007 | Gokee2: "BZFlag is a free multiplayer multiplatform 3D tank battle game. The name stands for Battle Zone capture Flag. It runs on Irix, Linux, *BSD, Windows, Mac OS X and other platforms." |
| 22:07.21 | bryjen | heh. didn't crash, so not way too many, but enough to make radar setting 3 very cluttered |
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| 22:07.44 | Gokee2 | blast007, Thanks :)! |
| 22:08.10 | blast007 | :) |
| 22:12.35 | Legoguy | Can I have more than two things bound to an event? |
| 22:12.54 | Legoguy | such as, wheel up, wheel down, left click, and enter --> fire? |
| 22:13.34 | JeffM2501 | I dont' see why not |
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| 22:13.54 | JeffM2501 | key manager uses the map to check keys and make events |
| 22:14.01 | JeffM2501 | that are passed to event manager |
| 22:14.07 | Legoguy | i tried defining them in the config file |
| 22:14.14 | Legoguy | but it only listens to the first 2 |
| 22:14.28 | JeffM2501 | by default respawn is set to 2 butons 'i' and right click |
| 22:14.35 | Legoguy | it used to work as expected in earlier cvs builds :-/ |
| 22:14.37 | JeffM2501 | ahh it may have a limit |
| 22:14.46 | Legoguy | i said more than 2 ;) |
| 22:15.29 | JeffM2501 | was thinking more then one |
| 22:15.37 | JeffM2501 | any limit woudl be artficial I would think |
| 22:15.49 | Legoguy | because the menu allows setting 2 |
| 22:15.51 | Legoguy | no more than 3 |
| 22:15.53 | Legoguy | n2 |
| 22:15.57 | Legoguy | 2* |
| 22:16.09 | JeffM2501 | then somone put in a limit |
| 22:16.11 | JeffM2501 | change it |
| 22:16.15 | JeffM2501 | rebuild |
| 22:17.02 | JeffM2501 | it's probably just a common sese idiot limit to keep people from screwing up |
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| 22:23.17 | bryjen | do the code in the if block at src/game/LagInfo.cxx:133 increment lagwarncount twice? lines 136 & 138 |
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| 22:25.06 | Grumbler | grumble, grumble |
| 22:25.15 | Nidhoggr | heya Grumbler ! :) |
| 22:25.52 | bryjen | I'm still not sure what the if itself it trying to express. Tupone? |
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| 22:26.14 | JeffM2501 | bryjen, yes that looks like it will do it 2x |
| 22:26.39 | bryjen | that's _probably_ not intended |
| 22:26.57 | JeffM2501 | no I think the second one is the bonus one |
| 22:27.05 | JeffM2501 | it probalby should be removed |
| 22:27.13 | bryjen | bonus bogus |
| 22:27.49 | JeffM2501 | unless max is allways set at 2x the limit |
| 22:28.33 | bryjen | i can't see it needing +2 on purpose an split across those lines like that |
| 22:28.52 | Nidhoggr | definitely explains the server boots |
| 22:29.00 | Tupone | laglastwarn > 2 * lagwarncount |
| 22:29.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah the logic just needs a warn |
| 22:29.08 | JeffM2501 | sorry a 1x |
| 22:29.17 | JeffM2501 | it's not suposed to be a 2x increment |
| 22:29.29 | Tupone | line 134 |
| 22:29.52 | JeffM2501 | why 2x there? |
| 22:29.59 | Tupone | old code :/ |
| 22:30.18 | JeffM2501 | it's like something got merged bad from 2 functions, by somone who didn't get it |
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| 22:30.27 | bryjen | its ( ( lagcount - laglastwarn ) > ( 2 * lagwarncount ) ) |
| 22:30.35 | JeffM2501 | lagcount - laglastwarn > 2 * lagwarncount |
| 22:30.38 | JeffM2501 | that dosn't even make sense |
| 22:30.41 | bryjen | which i don't understand the reason for either |
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| 22:31.02 | JeffM2501 | what's the subtraction even DO? |
| 22:31.35 | bryjen | lagcount is the current sequence #, lastlagwarn is what the seq# was at the last warning |
| 22:31.45 | Tupone | I'll remove one of the ++ |
| 22:31.46 | JeffM2501 | whats the def between lagcount and laslagwarn, and lagwarncount? |
| 22:31.54 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, that if needs to be fixed too |
| 22:32.04 | bryjen | so its how many pings ago you were last warned |
| 22:32.16 | bryjen | (is what the subtraction does) |
| 22:32.28 | Elspuddy | what does + meen in the nice list on bzflag ? |
| 22:32.32 | JeffM2501 | ok so it sees if it's time to ping you again? |
| 22:32.44 | Elspuddy | nice = nick |
| 22:32.46 | JeffM2501 | so it pings you ever lagwarncount*2 pings? |
| 22:32.54 | JeffM2501 | that makes no sense |
| 22:33.04 | bryjen | no, its some test to see if you've dropped too many packets |
| 22:33.07 | JeffM2501 | since it would just get biger |
| 22:33.10 | Legoguy | i've heard a lot of people lately complaining about vera mono.. does anyone else agree that profont should be default in some future release? |
| 22:33.22 | JeffM2501 | why isn't it tested against a hard limit then? |
| 22:33.48 | JeffM2501 | Legoguy, the entire font system needs to be redone to work with non US characters |
| 22:34.03 | bryjen | well, it shouldn't be total packets dropped, probly more like a percent |
| 22:34.08 | Legoguy | good thing profont already supports that ;) |
| 22:34.09 | JeffM2501 | posibly generating the font bitmaps at runtime from truetype or other font outlines. |
| 22:34.17 | JeffM2501 | Legoguy, but BZFLAG dosnt' |
| 22:34.43 | Legoguy | i know, i'm saying that when it does its an easy fix to support them with profont |
| 22:34.43 | JeffM2501 | at that point more then likely the game would allow the user to pick what font to set what to |
| 22:34.54 | Legoguy | true |
| 22:34.56 | JeffM2501 | is profont just a bitmap? |
| 22:34.59 | JeffM2501 | or a truetype? |
| 22:35.05 | Legoguy | available in both |
| 22:35.11 | Legoguy | but |
| 22:35.51 | Legoguy | but the advantage to the current font system is the ability to add a 50% transparent border around letters |
| 22:36.04 | Legoguy | for better readability |
| 22:36.19 | JeffM2501 | that is because the scaling sucks |
| 22:36.29 | JeffM2501 | with something that renders in pixel space you won't have that problem |
| 22:36.35 | JeffM2501 | and you could make a renderer that does that |
| 22:36.39 | Legoguy | not saying that that couldn't be done with a truetype or bitmap font, but it would be more code |
| 22:36.44 | JeffM2501 | the alpha outline |
| 22:36.58 | JeffM2501 | it all has to change, so it's going to be more code anyway |
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| 22:37.06 | Legoguy | true heh |
| 22:37.17 | JeffM2501 | that guy right there wants to make it all unicode so much will change |
| 22:37.32 | Legoguy | so what are we going to do then, distribute truetypes with it? |
| 22:38.03 | JeffM2501 | best would have been to make the sugetion yesterday, not today :) |
| 22:38.07 | Legoguy | lol |
| 22:38.18 | Legoguy | why's that? |
| 22:38.21 | JeffM2501 | Legoguy, noone knows, nobody has writen it |
| 22:38.38 | JeffM2501 | because then it could have been put in as the default font for 2.0 |
| 22:38.39 | Legoguy | heh |
| 22:38.49 | JeffM2501 | now you have to wait till next release |
| 22:38.54 | Legoguy | i did suggest it |
| 22:39.09 | JeffM2501 | then noone was intrested in doing it :) |
| 22:39.17 | JeffM2501 | comparison screenshots would have helped :) |
| 22:39.24 | JeffM2501 | some sort of campaign |
| 22:39.28 | JeffM2501 | maybe with ballons |
| 22:39.31 | JeffM2501 | or hats |
| 22:39.35 | Legoguy | and now all of the anti-vera-mono people start their campaign |
| 22:39.48 | Legoguy | not knowing profont is even there |
| 22:39.56 | JeffM2501 | you have it posted as a patch? |
| 22:40.02 | Legoguy | it's included with bzflag |
| 22:40.05 | Legoguy | it's just not default |
| 22:40.08 | JeffM2501 | ahh even easyer |
| 22:40.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah post on bzbb |
| 22:40.20 | david_v | what is the default path that bzflag-2.0.0.exe on http://my.bzflag.org/builds/1.11/ uses for install? |
| 22:40.21 | Legoguy | ok good idea |
| 22:40.51 | JeffM2501 | yourOSDrive:\program files\bzflag VERSION\bzflag.exe |
| 22:40.57 | Legoguy | which forum? heh |
| 22:41.08 | JeffM2501 | probably general |
| 22:41.11 | |zongo| | i cant recover my 1.10.8 config on 2.0 pls help me, i use MacOSX |
| 22:41.13 | JeffM2501 | provide a screenshot |
| 22:41.22 | david_v | JeffM2501: ah yea strings seemed to indicate that, thx |
| 22:41.35 | JeffM2501 | |zongo|, 2.0 uses a new config |
| 22:41.49 | |zongo| | so i have to redo everything? |
| 22:41.57 | JeffM2501 | there were many changes |
| 22:42.08 | JeffM2501 | some OSes do a config upgrade |
| 22:42.10 | JeffM2501 | some don't |
| 22:42.46 | |zongo| | ok, but can i store in the config file pswd etc? |
| 22:42.56 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 22:43.00 | JeffM2501 | it has all the old features |
| 22:43.00 | |zongo| | ok thx |
| 22:43.02 | JeffM2501 | just new ones |
| 22:43.07 | JeffM2501 | well I think you can |
| 22:43.21 | JeffM2501 | mine allways saves my username and pass |
| 22:43.30 | |zongo| | ok |
| 22:43.36 | |zongo| | thx a lot JeffM2501 |
| 22:47.09 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/game/LagInfo.cxx: lagwarncount increased twice |
| 22:53.24 | Elspuddy | what does the + meen by some peopels names in bzflag ??? |
| 22:54.17 | bryjen | it mean that name is registered on the forum and they supplied the correct password in bzflag |
| 22:54.39 | Elspuddy | ahhhh |
| 22:58.20 | cods | it's the 2nd time that a Mac user report me very slow rendering on my 2.0 server.. |
| 22:58.56 | Legoguy | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=26928#26928 |
| 22:59.31 | blast007 | cods: see if their depth buffer is turned off |
| 22:59.51 | Pimpinella | cods: jomojo had problems with slow rendering too |
| 23:00.00 | cods | Mac too ? |
| 23:00.07 | Pimpinella | on ducati and mac 2 |
| 23:00.32 | Pimpinella | from 160 on 1.10 to 50 on 2.0 |
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| 23:00.57 | cods | blast007: yeah.. it was related to depth buffer. |
| 23:00.59 | blast007 | hmm, my depth buffer doesn't say on after I quit the game... |
| 23:01.24 | blast007 | oh wait, it did that time |
| 23:04.13 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery one.bzflag.org:5153 |
| 23:04.25 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 23:04.37 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery hepcat.org:5154 |
| 23:05.04 | retro | I finally was able to download bzflag 2.0 from sourceforge a few minutes ago. It was broken last night and this morning. I assume you know this, but thought I'd mention it in case you didn't. |
| 23:06.09 | TimRiker | so we're at 3:1 1.10:2.0 |
| 23:09.43 | poxy | last time i tried to compile cvs on my machine, it failed miserably |
| 23:09.56 | retro | So when did sourceforge downloads get fixed? |
| 23:10.01 | poxy | what flasg should I use when updating? |
| 23:10.03 | poxy | -uP ? |
| 23:10.41 | TimRiker | poxy: -PdA |
| 23:10.52 | poxy | delete, prune, alien |
| 23:11.29 | bryjen | retro: the weren't exactly broken. sf was doing maintenance right after the packages were posted, so it slowed down the files being spread out to all the mirrors |
| 23:11.43 | poxy | I can provide mirror bandwidth :) |
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| 23:12.27 | Nidhoggr | TimRiker: I'm setting up my mrtg graphs. Hope to have something up fairly soonish. |
| 23:12.35 | retro | Oh. Well, I knew some people had it, but when I went to get it a little after midnight, I couldn't find it, so I figured it was broken... |
| 23:12.46 | poxy | I just fixed my mrtg graphs. For the longest time, i didnt upgrade it after my time_t upgrade from 32 to 64bit |
| 23:12.54 | Nidhoggr | aaah |
| 23:13.12 | poxy | I mean I didnt upgrade net-snmpd |
| 23:13.34 | retro | So, those who got it soon after the release yesterday, where did they get it if the mirrors didn't have it yet? |
| 23:13.51 | Legoguy | i managed to get it seconds after release |
| 23:13.53 | retro | In other words, is there a master that feeds the mirrors that I can get bits from? |
| 23:13.57 | TimRiker | anyone planning to upload a source .zip? /me pokes JeffM2501 |
| 23:13.57 | Legoguy | the source tarball |
| 23:14.22 | Legoguy | do you want me to just repackage the .tar.bz2 as .zip? |
| 23:14.47 | TimRiker | JeffM2501 said he was going to but I expect SF outage got in the way. |
| 23:14.47 | poxy | http://pastebin.dyndns.org/31 |
| 23:15.04 | Legoguy | ah |
| 23:15.21 | TimRiker | Legoguy: need a converted .zip in windows cr/lf format. I'd prefer one that's been tested first. ;-) |
| 23:15.33 | Legoguy | heh heh |
| 23:15.46 | Legoguy | unix2dos the whole dir and then zip :P |
| 23:16.28 | Legoguy | but i don't have the capability to test it |
| 23:16.28 | Legoguy | so |
| 23:16.48 | Legoguy | i mean i have windows running and everything, just mingw not set up right |
| 23:16.50 | Legoguy | err |
| 23:16.52 | Legoguy | not set up at all |
| 23:17.13 | Legoguy | laptop next to me runs windows |
| 23:18.49 | DTRemenak | mingw uses unix carriage returns anyway ;) |
| 23:18.58 | Legoguy | heh |
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| 23:19.07 | Legoguy | vc7.1 then |
| 23:19.27 | Legoguy | or whatever version its at now |
| 23:19.33 | DTRemenak | TimRiker: I can do it, I suppose. just zip a "cvs export -r v2_0_0" right? |
| 23:19.34 | ViPeR | any one useing windows bzflag 2.0.0? |
| 23:20.08 | DTRemenak | ViPeR: lots of people are, I imagine. Need something? |
| 23:20.17 | ViPeR | yes i do |
| 23:21.11 | DTRemenak | ~ask |
| 23:21.12 | ibot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a question first. Please don't be demanding or insulting. Remember, we're all volunteers. Please don't /msg people without permission. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 23:21.51 | ViPeR | every time i click on bzflag.exe i keep geting this error message "no front fround (the -directory option may help). exiting |
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| 23:23.58 | DTRemenak | open My Documents\My BZFlag Files\2.0\config.cfg and remove the line that says "set directory <blah>" or "set datadirectory <blah>" |
| 23:24.57 | ViPeR | ok |
| 23:25.06 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: should _not_ have the CVS/* stuff in it. |
| 23:25.18 | DTRemenak | TimRiker: "cvs export" gets rid of that, doesn't it? |
| 23:25.45 | ViPeR | thanks man |
| 23:25.51 | DTRemenak | ViPeR: no problem |
| 23:25.55 | ViPeR | it works |
| 23:26.21 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: not sure. I think so. oh! also need to run autogen.sh first. cause it should include ./configure and friends. |
| 23:26.40 | DTRemenak | TimRiker: that wouldn't make any sense for the windows build |
| 23:26.57 | DTRemenak | autogen only runs on msys, and msys requires unix line endings... |
| 23:27.02 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: this is a source zip. it may or may not be used my windows folks. |
| 23:27.16 | TimRiker | what about cygwin and ming, etc? |
| 23:27.23 | DTRemenak | TimRiker: our configure relies on unix line endings or it dies. sed et al. |
| 23:27.37 | DTRemenak | cygwin also requires unix line endings |
| 23:27.59 | TimRiker | cygwin can do either, but I've never tried non-unix endings. |
| 23:28.15 | DTRemenak | gcc will do either, but sed chokes |
| 23:28.19 | TimRiker | could be very broken if you configure it that way, don't know. |
| 23:28.31 | DTRemenak | and our configure script uses sed to try to grok the version number |
| 23:29.03 | TimRiker | any of the other .zip's likely don't have the auto* stuff in em then? I suppose this would be no worse. fine. leave em out. |
| 23:29.46 | DTRemenak | k. I don't have a problem with generating them, but I don't see how I could do so without converting them to unix linebreaks and back again, and that would kind of kill the point. |
| 23:31.05 | DTRemenak | the other option is to use unix linebreaks in the zip. vc6 would need its project files changed back, but vc7 and both compilers don't have a problem with unix linebreaks. |
| 23:34.34 | TimRiker | DTRemenak: well, you can autoconvert a zip on extraction. so it could be used on a non-cr/lf system. Not sure if that will get all the files correctly. |
| 23:35.12 | TimRiker | they should be cr/lf by default. that's most of the point in shipping a .zip. |
| 23:36.04 | DTRemenak | looks like neither 1.10.8 nor 1.10.6 has configure generated in the zips. I reckon they'll mostly be used by people with VC or Dev-C++ anyway. |
| 23:38.09 | DTRemenak | 1.10.4 is the same too. Guess I'll be consistent. |
| 23:38.52 | Elspuddy | an i mak the server talk via the consome of the serve ? |
| 23:39.09 | Elspuddy | i'l type that again |
| 23:39.16 | DTRemenak | that might be a good idea :) |
| 23:39.29 | Elspuddy | can i make the server talk via the server console window ? |
| 23:39.55 | DTRemenak | not without patching the source. |
| 23:40.12 | DTRemenak | you can have it make an announcement every 15 minutes, I think |
| 23:40.28 | DTRemenak | but that's as close as you can get with a stock bzfs |
| 23:40.34 | Elspuddy | yep, just wanted to let the people know that i crashed out :( |
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| 23:43.40 | TimRiker | Elspuddy: that's what bzadmin is for. ;-) |
| 23:45.07 | Elspuddy | TimRiker: i dont think i compiled that |
| 23:48.26 | JeffM2501 | ahh ya gotta love commiting changes to 35 core files of a project that will make everyone rebuild just about everything :) |
| 23:52.54 | Tupone | poxy: your pastebin. Probably you didn't autogen |
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| 23:55.54 | shorty114 | bye bye CIA |
