| 00:01.04 | scanline | pff |
| 00:01.15 | scanline | more just apathetic toward everything |
| 00:01.35 | scanline | and I really don't have anything to say at the moment :P |
| 00:01.53 | brlcad | :) |
| 00:02.13 | brlcad | scanline: are the donations pouring in yet? |
| 00:02.29 | scanline | brlcad: a little bit. Got a big one from Nat, and a handful of smaller ones |
| 00:03.02 | brlcad | ready to quit your day job? |
| 00:03.08 | scanline | day job? |
| 00:05.03 | wegstar | heh |
| 00:06.12 | *** join/#bzflag neom (neom@neom.ca) |
| 00:06.23 | scanline | you could always write your own artists statement :P |
| 00:06.38 | *** part/#bzflag theEnemy (~jifl@cpc3-cmbg5-3-0-cust28.cmbg.cable.ntl.com) |
| 00:06.52 | purple_cow | scanline: they're your images :P |
| 00:06.55 | scanline | I don't have anything to say. I could make up some random crap, but I'm really not in the mood to do that |
| 00:06.58 | scanline | so pick one of yours |
| 00:08.21 | *** part/#bzflag neom (neom@neom.ca) |
| 00:11.53 | brlcad | it's supposed to be defining, not necessarily creative |
| 00:12.10 | brlcad | Chaos #852, Entropy 28, Seed 9 |
| 00:12.29 | purple_cow | brlcad: the problem isn't with titles, it's with the 'artist statement' :P |
| 00:12.52 | *** join/#bzflag junker (~d121d606@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:13.58 | brlcad | purple_cow: so code up the BSer-9000 to write it for you ;) |
| 00:14.55 | junker | Nid, you here? |
| 00:15.08 | purple_cow | scanline: it can be *so* short. ``this is me, blah blah, my work is an exploration of the beauty hidden in mathematics'.' |
| 00:15.24 | scanline | purple_cow: so write it yourself |
| 00:16.09 | brlcad | heh |
| 00:16.17 | purple_cow | you want i should write it for you or take credit for those 3? :P |
| 00:16.41 | scanline | or? |
| 00:17.17 | purple_cow | well, as i see it i can either write something and then have you submit it, or i can submit everything |
| 00:17.49 | scanline | you could put us both down as authors... |
| 00:18.00 | purple_cow | no, i can't, and that's the issue |
| 00:18.06 | scanline | well, I really don't care |
| 00:18.41 | scanline | I'd like to be in the art gallery and such, but I'm really in no mood for last minute BSing |
| 00:18.53 | purple_cow | ok, i'll do the BSing, you do the uploading :P |
| 00:19.02 | scanline | heh |
| 00:19.18 | scanline | or I could take a nap |
| 00:19.43 | brlcad | when's the deadline? |
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| 00:21.05 | purple_cow | brlcad: about 40 minutes from now :P |
| 00:21.25 | brlcad | egads! |
| 00:21.41 | *** join/#bzflag n (~nadic666@Toronto-HSE-ppp3938270.sympatico.ca) |
| 00:21.49 | brlcad | chop chop then.. |
| 00:22.28 | brlcad | can't turn down a trip to siggraph because of a silly illness..(!) |
| 00:22.42 | brlcad | well, you can .. but that's insane! |
| 00:22.44 | scanline | heh |
| 00:22.51 | scanline | I wish I had your enthusiasm |
| 00:23.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/BUGS: hud roaming label flag doesn't update when driving with winner |
| 00:23.42 | Nidhoggr | junker: I'm over my head in work. let me check your login. |
| 00:23.49 | junker | k |
| 00:24.55 | brlcad | scanline: i'm ready to go to siggraph already |
| 00:24.55 | scanline | that's nice |
| 00:24.55 | Nidhoggr | you are in the peepzops group already. |
| 00:25.04 | Nidhoggr | what errors are you getting? |
| 00:25.15 | Nidhoggr | can you log into the forums? |
| 00:25.37 | purple_cow | scanline: ``These works are an exploration of the innate beauty of mathematics. The form is created by equation, waiting to be discovered. By carefully controlling the parameters, a few numbers can be transformed into natural shapes and sweeps of color.'' |
| 00:25.44 | purple_cow | scanline: hows that for a BSey artist statement that says nothing? |
| 00:25.52 | brlcad | we've got a countdown here at work |
| 00:25.52 | scanline | yep, BSey |
| 00:25.58 | brlcad | 193 days to siggraph! |
| 00:26.02 | Nidhoggr | I also just added Lady K, junker |
| 00:26.04 | junker | Yup, I can login to the forum it's giving me Global login rejected, bad token |
| 00:26.36 | Nidhoggr | do you have a web proxy? |
| 00:26.38 | brlcad | purple_cow: that's good :) |
| 00:26.46 | junker | ok, I'll try now... n |
| 00:26.51 | Nidhoggr | do you have a web proxy? |
| 00:27.06 | *** join/#bzflag Jormungandr (~consus@user-69-1-42-120.knology.net) |
| 00:27.11 | junker | I don't local, there may be one at the isp.. still giving same error |
| 00:27.35 | Nidhoggr | then the problem isn't the registration |
| 00:27.47 | Nidhoggr | are you using all lower case in your callsign? |
| 00:27.51 | junker | yup |
| 00:28.02 | junker | just as I login to the forum |
| 00:28.37 | Jormungandr | Someone just brought to my attention that the arrow keys don't seem to work? Is there a option for using them? |
| 00:29.09 | Nidhoggr | junker, the problem seems to be with the listserver or something, and not the registration, then. |
| 00:29.17 | brlcad | Jormungandr: don't work? how so? they work fine here |
| 00:29.30 | junker | is this something you fix on your end? |
| 00:29.56 | Nidhoggr | it's something TimRiker will have to look at, most likely. |
| 00:30.13 | Jormungandr | brlcad, I don't know why, he reported it to me, and i checked it out, seems they wern't working with mine either. |
| 00:30.22 | junker | ok, it's strange that both Lady K and I got hi with it. |
| 00:30.37 | Nidhoggr | maybe your ISP does transparent web proxy. |
| 00:30.46 | Nidhoggr | that would break it. |
| 00:30.57 | junker | why? |
| 00:31.13 | junker | I think they may now that I think of it |
| 00:31.15 | Nidhoggr | because the transparent proxy would have a different IP number than where you are coming from. |
| 00:31.42 | Nidhoggr | the fix is to change the port to 81 for the connection, which would bypass the proxy, if I recall correctly. |
| 00:31.50 | junker | I can get to my IP external.. and it shows up correctly in playerlist |
| 00:32.08 | junker | This isn't a web login problem.. it's on bzflag |
| 00:32.17 | Nidhoggr | yes, but when you hit the listserver, which uses http, it records a different IP if you use transparent proxy. |
| 00:32.20 | Nidhoggr | ugh. |
| 00:32.28 | Nidhoggr | this is how it works... |
| 00:32.56 | Nidhoggr | your client connects via the web to get a token for authentication. |
| 00:33.06 | junker | ahhh, say no more.. I got it I think |
| 00:33.18 | purple_cow | scanline: technical statement: |
| 00:33.20 | junker | so bzflag client uses port 80 |
| 00:33.27 | Nidhoggr | for authentication. |
| 00:33.37 | junker | yup.. let me do some checking then:) thanks |
| 00:33.39 | purple_cow | This image is created via the repeated application of a space-folding equation. By mapping the first few iterations of this equation, shape and form is created out of a very plain beginning. The exact form of these images is discovered by exploring the parameter space of the equation and computing the result thousands of times per pixel to determine density. This is then mapped to color for output. |
| 00:33.42 | purple_cow | that should work for all of them |
| 00:33.54 | scanline | yep |
| 00:33.56 | Nidhoggr | you can change your listserver setting in the client |
| 00:34.01 | Nidhoggr | to port 81... |
| 00:34.11 | junker | ok, I'll give that a shot.. |
| 00:34.18 | Nidhoggr | I don't remember the whole URL you need |
| 00:34.29 | Nidhoggr | someone here might. *hing* |
| 00:34.30 | Nidhoggr | err hint |
| 00:34.33 | Nidhoggr | :/ |
| 00:34.35 | Nidhoggr | can't type. |
| 00:34.45 | junker | hehe |
| 00:36.14 | junker | Yup, worked nid!! thanks.. it's http://my.bzflag.org:81/db/ |
| 00:36.31 | Nidhoggr | excellent. |
| 00:36.46 | junker | didn't figure it was doing auth that way... |
| 00:36.55 | Nidhoggr | glad you are savvy enough to figure out the stuff. :) |
| 00:37.03 | junker | sometimes:) |
| 00:37.21 | Nidhoggr | ok.. I need to get back to work tickets. |
| 00:37.31 | junker | Thanks again Nid, have a good one |
| 00:37.38 | *** part/#bzflag Tupone (Tupone@adsl-84-222-136-61.tiscali.it) |
| 00:40.12 | junker | is this an open question forum? Or topic only? |
| 00:41.48 | *** join/#bzflag Cybodog (~dlc@ip68-12-3-100.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 00:42.46 | Cybodog | bzflag 2 will not play on my linux box can I past 6 lines of code in here for help? |
| 00:44.38 | *** part/#bzflag orchid (orchid@orchid.user) |
| 00:44.41 | junker | well, I'm not sure of anything.. or who's here.. but shoot |
| 00:44.41 | purple_cow | yay! |
| 00:44.48 | RedDog | is this thing on? |
| 00:44.49 | purple_cow | now we just have to hope that the HTTP POSTs finish in time |
| 00:45.15 | scanline | aww |
| 00:45.20 | RedDog | anybody good at figuring out why bzflag 2.0 will not work? |
| 00:45.22 | scanline | the first one came back with a 'technical requirements must be entered' |
| 00:45.32 | purple_cow | erk |
| 00:45.39 | purple_cow | at least we know it only takes about 5 minutes to post :P |
| 00:46.07 | RedDog | I recognize many of the names I kill and they kill me :) |
| 00:46.42 | trepan | RedDog: i'll try, briefly |
| 00:46.47 | RedDog | ty |
| 00:46.54 | trepan | did it compile successfully? are you using a binary? |
| 00:47.02 | trepan | binary download that is... |
| 00:47.17 | RedDog | since trafic is low I will past 6 lines from a term when I launch it. binary, debian |
| 00:47.25 | RedDog | X Error of failed request: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation) |
| 00:47.25 | RedDog | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.25 | RedDog | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.26 | RedDog | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.26 | RedDog | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.26 | RedDog | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:47.55 | RedDog | I am using xorg NOT xfree86 |
| 00:48.26 | trepan | did you compile it yourself? |
| 00:48.27 | RedDog | and I have not idea what that stuff means |
| 00:48.36 | RedDog | no, apt-get install bzflag |
| 00:48.50 | trepan | would you be willing to compile it yourself? |
| 00:49.03 | RedDog | yup, that is what I was thinking. |
| 00:49.13 | trepan | good thought, try it |
| 00:49.18 | junker | could it be it can't figure out his geometry? |
| 00:49.19 | RedDog | working on it |
| 00:49.46 | trepan | junker: could very well be |
| 00:49.51 | RedDog | I suspect debian used xfree, I do NOT use xfree, so debian compiled it with xfree |
| 00:49.56 | junker | so start with bzflag -geometry 1024x768 or something like that |
| 00:50.06 | RedDog | dam a whos whos of my nemises |
| 00:50.17 | trepan | hm, the debs are SDL? |
| 00:50.19 | RedDog | oh, let me try that |
| 00:50.26 | RedDog | SLD? |
| 00:50.56 | junker | I don't think you need it |
| 00:51.05 | trepan | bzflag --version (would have ...-gnu-SDL at the end) |
| 00:51.13 | junker | isn't it just an option |
| 00:51.19 | trepan | it's the default |
| 00:51.27 | trepan | for 2.0 |
| 00:51.29 | junker | oh, for the binary? |
| 00:51.43 | junker | hehe, nevermind.. duh |
| 00:51.58 | RedDog | it did not like -geometry 1024x768 |
| 00:52.10 | RedDog | same errors |
| 00:52.22 | trepan | try -geometry 640x480 , go low first :) |
| 00:52.24 | Elspuddy | how do i set the rain type ?? |
| 00:52.35 | junker | perhaps try different size.. 640x480 or 1280x1024... but just a guess |
| 00:52.45 | trepan | if that doesn't work, go back to your own compile... |
| 00:53.05 | trepan | oh, one more thing, -geometry 640x480 -window |
| 00:53.44 | RedDog | ok, that last one worked |
| 00:53.48 | junker | I don't even want to ask about the error I get when I do that |
| 00:53.51 | RedDog | I will progress up |
| 00:54.12 | trepan | once it's running, could you try to switch to fullmode with F1? |
| 00:54.21 | RedDog | will look |
| 00:54.34 | trepan | it'll probably kill it |
| 00:54.58 | trepan | either way, i'd still suggest compile it yourself |
| 00:56.36 | RedDog | f1 did not do anything at all |
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| 00:56.55 | RedDog | trepan, I would agree with the compile. |
| 00:59.26 | junker | Ok, can I ask a stupid question now.. other that using set grabmouse.. is there a way to lock and release mouse? |
| 00:59.33 | RedDog | any reported problems with nvidia? |
| 00:59.47 | junker | I'm using it RedDog, no problem with mine |
| 00:59.57 | RedDog | ty |
| 01:00.01 | junker | xorg and XFree |
| 01:00.14 | purple_cow | brlcad: you can breathe again =D |
| 01:00.28 | *** join/#bzflag Legolas (~who@69.106.188.199) |
| 01:01.32 | Thumper_ | hmmm changes to the list server today... I'm running a local server for testing and it used to show up as 'localhost' in the list - not anymore |
| 01:01.52 | Legolas | wierd |
| 01:02.21 | RedDog | dam the download show up as NOT FOUND |
| 01:02.30 | menotume | hmm, having problems with 2.0 client ... |
| 01:02.33 | menotume | mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding |
| 01:02.33 | menotume | ERROR: Unable to initialize an OpenGL context |
| 01:02.37 | Thumper_ | oh wait... wrong version. dh. |
| 01:02.39 | RedDog | I'm getting the shakes |
| 01:02.40 | scanline | purple_cow: :) |
| 01:02.48 | menotume | any ideas? env var missing ? |
| 01:03.20 | bryjen | the mcop thing is probly SDL trying to use artsd for audio |
| 01:03.27 | Thumper_ | nevermind - pilot errors :D |
| 01:03.40 | RedDog | anybod else have problems getting to the download? |
| 01:03.48 | brlcad | purple_cow: you sure do cut it close |
| 01:03.51 | RedDog | ahh, got it now |
| 01:04.02 | brlcad | bryjen: ahh, thx |
| 01:04.04 | RedDog | ]must be a bad dns somewhere |
| 01:04.08 | purple_cow | brlcad: it's more exciting that way |
| 01:04.28 | menotume | bryjen: it worked right after I isntall it, then I 'excit'ed from root, and now it doesn't work |
| 01:04.39 | menotume | even if I run it as root again |
| 01:04.52 | trepan | you ran a bzflag client as root? |
| 01:04.57 | menotume | yes |
| 01:05.02 | trepan | don't do that... |
| 01:05.09 | menotume | errr, why not ? |
| 01:05.10 | bryjen | the GL context thing is the problem |
| 01:05.38 | menotume | just ran it to see if it worked - in & out |
| 01:05.52 | bryjen | don't do _anything_ as root if you can help it |
| 01:05.52 | menotume | then 'exit'ed to my user account, and it no-worky now |
| 01:06.17 | bryjen | motto of the paranoid *nix admin |
| 01:06.26 | menotume | gotya - I agree |
| 01:06.43 | menotume | never know what 'hooks' these bz devs might put in :P |
| 01:07.48 | bryjen | yes, they are quite evil, and many need $ to pay off student loans ;) |
| 01:08.19 | bryjen | s/money/your money/ |
| 01:08.24 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 01:08.25 | menotume | lol |
| 01:12.21 | bryjen | try glxgears or glxinfo to see if your GL stuff is b0rked somehow |
| 01:14.28 | RedDog | the .configure is telling my that c++ compiler can not create executables |
| 01:16.01 | RedDog | what verson of gcc is it looking for? |
| 01:16.16 | menotume | hmmm, other stuff (bz 1.10) works ok |
| 01:16.51 | menotume | it complained about mcop-mthomas not being owned by mthomas, so i changed ownership, and now i get: |
| 01:16.53 | menotume | mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding |
| 01:16.54 | menotume | bad md5 secret-cookie obtained from Arts::TmpGlobalComm - replacing it |
| 01:16.54 | menotume | ERROR: Unable to initialize an OpenGL context |
| 01:17.00 | menotume | I will re-install bz |
| 01:17.10 | menotume | to the default install dir instead of /tmp |
| 01:18.15 | bryjen | the mcop thing isn't a fatal error, just a warning, debug-type stuff |
| 01:18.46 | bryjen | i don't think bz needs a specific version of gcc |
| 01:19.09 | menotume | ahhh, okies |
| 01:19.19 | RedDog | OK, I dont have g++ installed, just gcc |
| 01:19.23 | menotume | the method is still: ./configure , make , make install ? |
| 01:19.27 | RedDog | stupid okies |
| 01:19.35 | RedDog | they suck |
| 01:19.43 | bryjen | menotume: yes |
| 01:19.49 | menotume | thanks |
| 01:20.06 | RedDog | hey man, I'm a killer not a thinker |
| 01:20.34 | amathis | ugh |
| 01:20.39 | amathis | where is teh Tim Riker |
| 01:20.40 | RedDog | this is pissing me off |
| 01:20.43 | RedDog | urrgggg |
| 01:20.52 | amathis | ah |
| 01:20.59 | amathis | `ls`: you there? |
| 01:22.05 | RedDog | I can't find a software list of deps, any idea where that would be? |
| 01:22.19 | bryjen | for bzflag? |
| 01:22.24 | RedDog | yes |
| 01:23.09 | RedDog | checking for c++ no |
| 01:23.09 | RedDog | checking for g++ no |
| 01:23.12 | RedDog | can the c++ compiler (gcc) work.. no |
| 01:23.23 | RedDog | configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C++ compiler cannot create executables. |
| 01:23.30 | purple_cow | RedDog: i'd suggest you install g++ :P |
| 01:23.32 | RedDog | I can config my kernel all day long |
| 01:23.34 | amathis | RedDog: install gcc & G++ |
| 01:23.40 | amathis | purple_cow: beat me. >_< |
| 01:24.54 | RedDog | g++3.4 did not do it, I had to install g++ |
| 01:24.58 | RedDog | doh! |
| 01:25.08 | RedDog | but 3.4 is 3.4 higher |
| 01:25.41 | RedDog | is this good? |
| 01:25.44 | RedDog | BZFlag-2.0.0.20050120 with the following: |
| 01:25.44 | RedDog | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.44 | RedDog | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.44 | RedDog | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.44 | RedDog | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.45 | RedDog | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.04 | RedDog | the last two is normal, not installed |
| 01:26.10 | amathis | no |
| 01:26.11 | menotume | heh - doesn't look too good to me |
| 01:26.12 | amathis | that isn't good |
| 01:26.26 | bryjen | openGL, libSDL, libcurl |
| 01:26.27 | RedDog | well, that is my problem with the debian binary then |
| 01:26.27 | amathis | RedDog: you are missing libcurl... libSDL-dev curses |
| 01:26.38 | menotume | what kind of install has no g++, no ncurses ? |
| 01:26.43 | RedDog | as in ncurses? |
| 01:26.48 | amathis | menotume: that is what I am thinking |
| 01:26.52 | amathis | RedDog: debian? |
| 01:26.56 | RedDog | yes |
| 01:27.07 | amathis | RedDog: minimal? |
| 01:27.13 | amathis | even with a minimal... |
| 01:27.14 | RedDog | sid full blow |
| 01:27.16 | amathis | how do you no get g++ |
| 01:27.18 | amathis | 0.0 |
| 01:27.29 | amathis | RedDog: apt-get install gcc |
| 01:27.32 | amathis | RedDog: apt-get install g++ |
| 01:27.36 | RedDog | :) I installed it my self |
| 01:27.40 | RedDog | from metal |
| 01:27.42 | amathis | RedDog: apt-cache search SDL |
| 01:27.45 | amathis | RedDog: apt-cache search curl |
| 01:28.03 | RedDog | what sdl do I want? |
| 01:28.09 | amathis | RedDog: at least 1.2 |
| 01:28.10 | *** join/#bzflag Vivaldi (~Antonio@host59-26.pool80116.interbusiness.it) |
| 01:28.13 | Vivaldi | hello |
| 01:28.13 | amathis | and you need dev pkgs |
| 01:28.16 | amathis | Vivaldi: hallo! |
| 01:28.26 | Vivaldi | what's new in bzflag 2.0? |
| 01:28.44 | amathis | Vivaldi: the version name. |
| 01:28.47 | RedDog | sob |
| 01:28.59 | RedDog | I cant install sdl, with out using xfree. |
| 01:29.00 | Vivaldi | i am behind a router |
| 01:29.04 | Vivaldi | can i play it? |
| 01:29.16 | amathis | bryjen: when did I do 'teh' |
| 01:29.23 | RedDog | looks like I have to rip out xorg and do the xfree thing |
| 01:29.45 | amathis | bryjen: reads up |
| 01:29.49 | amathis | ah |
| 01:29.50 | amathis | ok |
| 01:29.52 | amathis | hehe |
| 01:30.01 | amathis | I am not using xchat anymore, irssi doesn't fix it for me. |
| 01:30.41 | bryjen | "teh Tim Riker" ... "teh debian" |
| 01:31.06 | amathis | bryjen: JeffM(patlabor) is my mentor ^_^! |
| 01:31.12 | bryjen | ur speeling is teh suk |
| 01:31.14 | menotume | bummer, still no worky ... i just don't understand why it worked once, then 'exit' from root cuased it to break :( |
| 01:31.20 | menotume | there's always tomoorw |
| 01:31.43 | amathis | bryjen: nah, at least I don't aol, or leet speak. |
| 01:31.56 | RedDog | wish me well, I have to kill my x and rebuild it |
| 01:32.27 | bryjen | eep. now that does suck. |
| 01:32.57 | RedDog | xorg is not supported in debian and the dep. are srcewed becuse of it. I can not install sdl dev with out x11 dev packages |
| 01:33.46 | amathis | RedDog: compile everything! |
| 01:33.46 | amathis | :D |
| 01:33.55 | RedDog | crux or gentoo |
| 01:34.25 | RedDog | gentoo, becuse you have the time |
| 01:34.41 | RedDog | curx, becuse you no pain is ever enough |
| 01:34.49 | amathis | .. not if you have an AMD64 |
| 01:36.42 | amathis | I am not one. |
| 01:36.47 | amathis | but I wish I had one to toy with. |
| 01:37.16 | RedDog | well, have to go down for a test. wish me luck |
| 01:37.23 | menotume | bryjen: glxgears looks fine, glxinfo looks ok (though i'm not sure what to look for) |
| 01:38.15 | *** join/#bzflag cybo-crux (~damon@ip68-12-3-100.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 01:38.19 | menotume | glxgears: 6000 FPS |
| 01:38.49 | bryjen | "OpenGL renderer string:" should say something about your video card. if old bz runs, its probly OK. donno whats up with 2.0 then |
| 01:38.58 | menotume | okies - thx |
| 01:39.15 | menotume | name of display: :0.0 |
| 01:39.16 | menotume | display: :0 screen: 0 |
| 01:39.16 | menotume | direct rendering: Yes |
| 01:39.16 | menotume | server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation |
| 01:39.16 | menotume | server glx version string: 1.3 |
| 01:39.16 | menotume | server glx extensions: |
| 01:39.18 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.20 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.22 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.26 | menotume | client glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation |
| 01:39.28 | menotume | client glx version string: 1.3 |
| 01:39.30 | menotume | etc, tec |
| 01:40.01 | menotume | it's probably some strange dependancy that all devs have the lateset and greatest of :) |
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| 02:34.39 | [shorty114] | is CVS locked? |
| 02:34.54 | [shorty114] | it says it's waiting for brlcad's lock |
| 02:35.01 | [shorty114] | cvs checkout: [02:34:09] waiting for brlcad's lock in /cvsroot/bzflag/bzflag/src/ogl |
| 02:35.01 | [shorty114] | cvs checkout: [02:34:39] waiting for brlcad's lock in /cvsroot/bzflag/bzflag/src/ogl |
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| 02:35.08 | [shorty114] | hi aribeth |
| 02:35.16 | Aribeth | hi |
| 02:36.20 | [shorty114] | ? |
| 02:36.35 | Aribeth | shorty114, hello |
| 02:36.45 | [shorty114] | yeah i'm talking about something else :) |
| 02:36.51 | Aribeth | ohh |
| 02:41.20 | amathis | [shorty114]: that means he is in process of committing IIRC |
| 02:42.52 | poxy | amathis: it sounds like sourceforge crashed while that was happening and that lock was never removed |
| 02:43.03 | amathis | yeah |
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| 02:45.11 | poxy | soon i'll have my map up as a bzflag-2 server |
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| 02:47.06 | cybo-crux | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:49.13 | Pizbit | heh |
| 02:49.37 | purple_cow | i think any experienced debian user would point out that mixing streams is a bad idea ;) |
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| 02:50.15 | cybo-crux | on my 2nd trip after re-installing the entire gui I noticed a (one lib) still at the wrong level. |
| 02:50.38 | cybo-crux | purple_cow it has it's advantages, but obviously, has it's pit falls |
| 02:50.42 | cybo-crux | stupid game |
| 02:51.02 | poxy | All I need to do to install a new version of a package is cd /usr/ports/<category>/<program> and tyep make deinstall reinstall |
| 02:51.08 | poxy | or portupgrade <packagename> |
| 02:51.15 | cybo-crux | you got to love the fact that I rip it out whil using it and replace it. |
| 02:51.32 | Pizbit | Couldn'd do that with windows:) |
| 02:51.34 | poxy | by "entire gui" do you mean XFree86/Xorg? |
| 02:51.56 | cybo-crux | I mean xfce4 gdm xsever-xanything |
| 02:52.46 | poxy | I also love the fact that I can rm -rf /usr/local and rm -rf /usr/X11R6 and rm -rf /var/db/pkg and all user-installed files will be gone, and record of installation will also be gone |
| 02:52.49 | cybo-crux | poxy I can do that to, it just removes all the deps and that is the messy part, to put it all back to gether again so you can turn it off at some point in time and have it work again |
| 02:53.11 | poxy | huh? you're talking debian, im talking ports |
| 02:53.39 | cybo-crux | package management is package managment |
| 02:53.55 | cybo-crux | Ports is good. so is apt |
| 02:54.23 | poxy | Wow... you have knowledge of both too |
| 02:54.36 | cybo-crux | beats the hell out of make world gentoo |
| 02:54.48 | Pizbit | poxy: What about /etc/ ? |
| 02:54.54 | cybo-crux | played with freebsd and crux used ports |
| 02:54.58 | wegstar | BUG FOUND |
| 02:55.00 | poxy | all config files from user-installed programs go in /usr/local/etc |
| 02:55.19 | poxy | look up hier(4) on the online freebsd man pages to see how freebsd stores its files |
| 02:55.29 | Pizbit | poxy: Don't forget ones home directory |
| 02:55.36 | wegstar | when it is already raining.. and we set rain and change it's speed, the rain will fall backwards and forwards and cannot be changed !!!!:) |
| 02:55.40 | poxy | That's irrelevent |
| 02:55.48 | cybo-crux | lol |
| 02:55.59 | cybo-crux | call it wind |
| 02:56.03 | Pizbit | heh |
| 02:56.13 | [shorty114] | yay |
| 02:56.18 | [shorty114] | mirror of .tar.gz bz2 |
| 02:57.16 | [shorty114] | when's the OSX binary coming? |
| 02:57.17 | trepan | wegstar: you could go post it on sourceforge or something... |
| 02:57.40 | [shorty114] | heh |
| 02:57.55 | [shorty114] | you _could_, but they're kinda in a mess as of right now :) |
| 02:58.40 | trepan | how's that, o' tiny one? |
| 02:58.55 | trepan | maintenance? |
| 02:59.11 | [shorty114] | more like system-wide crash... |
| 02:59.28 | [shorty114] | cept you can DL, so teh DLing isn't b0rked |
| 02:59.49 | brlcad | [shorty114]: os x binary? hrm? |
| 03:00.05 | [shorty114] | brlcad: i _would_ make one myself, if i had the faintest idea how :) |
| 03:00.07 | poxy | Wouldnt a statically linked binary be most preferrable? |
| 03:00.19 | brlcad | [shorty114]: binary of what? |
| 03:00.23 | [shorty114] | BZFlag |
| 03:00.28 | brlcad | uhm |
| 03:00.36 | brlcad | it's already posted |
| 03:00.44 | brlcad | been posted for 2 days now |
| 03:00.45 | [shorty114] | on the Download wiki page? |
| 03:01.05 | poxy | brlcad: do you think its funny at all that bzflag compiles with -g and -O2? putting symbols for code that's possibly optimized away...and taking more cpu time and space to do it... |
| 03:01.22 | brlcad | [shorty114]: i know not of wiki's -- the official bzflag repository is on sf |
| 03:01.45 | [shorty114] | brlcad: when i checked the sf page, it was "down for maintenence" |
| 03:02.05 | jomojo | bricad: i am downloading the source but i waiting for your lock?? |
| 03:02.18 | brlcad | poxy: compiler doesn't work like that |
| 03:02.29 | wegstar | hmm |
| 03:02.36 | [shorty114] | ah found links |
| 03:03.17 | jomojo | waiting for bricad's lock in /cvsroot/bzflag/bzflag/src/ogl |
| 03:03.30 | brlcad | jomojo: can't do anything about htat |
| 03:03.33 | [shorty114] | jomojo: same here. |
| 03:03.39 | jomojo | is that normal??? |
| 03:03.43 | blast007 | no |
| 03:03.43 | brlcad | yep |
| 03:03.50 | blast007 | oh.. ;) |
| 03:03.52 | poxy | are you sure? there isnt a .lock file you can delete? |
| 03:03.55 | trepan | brlcad: ogl/, you add multitex today? |
| 03:04.03 | [shorty114] | whoa cooool nice new splash screen for the DMG |
| 03:04.16 | bryjen | wegstar: changing rain speed does not instantly make all the drop change speed/direction. drops "in progress" continue along just as they were. newly created drops get new params. the sign of rain speed (negative/positive) also determines the direction the drops go. |
| 03:04.38 | brlcad | if sf.net sync's while someone's mid-update/commit, it'll capture the lock too |
| 03:04.45 | brlcad | leaving anonymous locked until the next update |
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| 03:05.33 | brlcad | poxy: i could delete the lock if we had cvsroot access, which we do not |