| 00:00.59 | *** join/#bzflag sgk284 (~stevek@AC8AFBA6.ipt.aol.com) |
| 00:01.33 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (~bryjen@2002:45a6:876a:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 00:01.46 | sgk284 | if any here uses metacity, i highly recommend this: http://www.pycage.de/software_expocity.html |
| 00:01.54 | sgk284 | very neat little patch |
| 00:03.18 | sgk284 | its like expose for macs |
| 00:03.41 | M1 | Any admin of bzbb here? |
| 00:04.21 | M1 | Any admin of bzbb here? |
| 00:04.29 | blast007 | echo echo |
| 00:04.33 | bryjen | what do you need? |
| 00:04.34 | blast007 | ;) |
| 00:04.37 | DTRemenak | M1: what do you need |
| 00:04.46 | DTRemenak | heh, bryjen beats me again :) |
| 00:04.51 | bryjen | blast007: @echo off |
| 00:04.55 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:05.02 | M1 | I forget my bzbb password... :( |
| 00:05.24 | blast007 | isn't there a "forgot my password" thing? |
| 00:05.49 | blast007 | think it's on the login form page |
| 00:05.50 | DTRemenak | when you click "Log in", there's a link that says "I forgot my password". Click it. |
| 00:06.20 | M1 | It is said that "Sorry, but your password cannot be retrieved because your account is currently inactive. Please contact the forum administrator for more information. " |
| 00:06.36 | blast007 | ah |
| 00:06.40 | DTRemenak | then you never activated your account |
| 00:06.41 | M1 | :(( |
| 00:07.06 | M1 | then how can I get it actived now? |
| 00:07.20 | blast007 | didn't an email get sent to you when you signed up? |
| 00:07.20 | JeffM2501 | repply to the mail it sent you |
| 00:07.30 | DTRemenak | find the email it sent to you and reply to it |
| 00:07.41 | JeffM2501 | what was the name? |
| 00:07.46 | JeffM2501 | that you used? |
| 00:07.47 | Tupone | or put a true e-mail addy |
| 00:07.49 | M1 | M1... |
| 00:07.57 | M1 | the name is M1 |
| 00:08.06 | sgk284 | did you use a real email address? |
| 00:08.09 | M1 | not sure which email I used before |
| 00:08.18 | JeffM2501 | it was a yahoo |
| 00:08.30 | Tupone | I remember nick to be >= 3 |
| 00:08.38 | M1 | Let me search my yahoo one |
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| 00:09.01 | JeffM2501 | he never activated |
| 00:09.17 | JeffM2501 | m1, /msg me the mail you think you used |
| 00:09.21 | JeffM2501 | and I can take care of it for you |
| 00:09.58 | TimRiker | Tupone: in-game, I think that's true. not sure what phpbb is set to at the moment. |
| 00:10.12 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, did he reply yet? |
| 00:10.18 | JeffM2501 | huh.. huh.. did he...? |
| 00:10.22 | JeffM2501 | are we there yet? |
| 00:10.25 | Tupone | I thought he was registering to play |
| 00:10.36 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, it has no limits like that |
| 00:10.49 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, DTRemenak is poking me... |
| 00:11.06 | JeffM2501 | he may be, the name wont' work well. bzbb will allow it tho |
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| 00:24.46 | SilverFox | tee hee! |
| 00:36.57 | jacques | why should commands.cxx require > 100MB RAM to compile? |
| 00:38.00 | blast007 | 100MB? o.O |
| 00:44.56 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:49.59 | jacques | does bzfs require anything in share/bzflag ? looks like all images and sounds and maybe some fonts |
| 00:50.18 | blast007 | bzfs shouldn't need anything in there |
| 00:50.31 | blast007 | just nees the map file, conf file, etc |
| 00:50.42 | blast007 | needs* |
| 00:50.51 | jacques | thanks blast007 |
| 00:50.56 | JeffM2501 | the server dosn't need any graphics |
| 00:51.06 | JeffM2501 | it does want human souls tho |
| 00:51.20 | jacques | just asking. I got gunshy after the bzadmin needing gl thing :-) |
| 00:51.51 | JeffM2501 | that's just cus the code isn't clean |
| 00:52.19 | jacques | I found out g++ it too much of a memory hog for me to build native, so I build cross |
| 00:52.38 | jacques | I dont get why the modules which deal with strings want 70-100MB RAM to compile |
| 00:53.02 | jacques | WordFilter.cxx CmdLineOptions.cxx commands.cxx and bzfs.cxx are the bad ones |
| 00:53.32 | jacques | I got the first three to build by reducing optimization level, but looks like bzfs.cxx is a no go |
| 00:54.38 | retro | jacques, what are you building on that doesn't have 100 Mb swap available? |
| 00:54.48 | retro | Are you porting to the dreamcast or something? :) |
| 00:55.50 | TimRikerCELF | we did a port to the wrt54g and posted the build info to openwrt.org. not sure if it made it into the buildroot. bzfs on your AP. very cool. ;-) |
| 00:56.44 | sgk284 | that would be so cool |
| 00:56.49 | retro | yeah, very cool. How did you supply it with a map and config file? |
| 00:56.50 | jacques | retro, I have 128MB swap, but gcc/g++ seems to want a certain working set in RAM and if it can't get it, it ICE's |
| 00:56.57 | jacques | I have 32MB RAM |
| 00:57.01 | blast007 | cool, I have a wrt56g with busy box running on it :) |
| 00:57.20 | jacques | I was building on this: http://www.linksys.com/products/product.asp?grid=35&scid=43&prid=640 |
| 00:57.30 | TimRikerCELF | retro: telnet to the ap, then wget. hack the launch script. would be easy to add a web interface for it, but we didn't. |
| 00:58.02 | TimRikerCELF | jacques: sweet. xscale, right? |
| 00:58.03 | retro | Oh, there's a filesystem on the ap? |
| 00:58.08 | jacques | ixp420 |
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| 00:58.22 | jacques | xscale core you are correct sir :-) |
| 00:58.30 | jacques | BE tho :-) |
| 00:58.51 | TimRikerCELF | retro: sure. it's a linux server. small flash filesystem, small web browser, etc. the trick was it did not have c++ support so we had to build that and static link it into bzfs. |
| 00:58.55 | jacques | I just gotta hack in some gl headers so I can get bzadmin on it |
| 00:58.57 | retro | Ah, an embedded device. That makes sense now. I work at MontaVista software doing embedded Linux. Yeah, cross compile is the wayto go. |
| 00:59.16 | jacques | retro, except for perl and emacs, which I have built native on the nslu2 |
| 00:59.30 | jacques | tho I am sick and like to build everything I can native :-) |
| 01:00.58 | jacques | but g++ frequently foils my attempts with gratuitous RAM usage - I mean > 100MB to compile commands.cxx ?? |
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| 01:13.12 | shorty114 | hi SportChick |
| 01:13.18 | SportChick | hi shorty |
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| 01:14.17 | shorty114 | wb, bryjen |
| 01:14.21 | shorty114 | hi nicole |
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| 01:32.43 | Havoc_ | hey i cant register for bzflag 2.00...... |
| 01:33.33 | Havoc_ | what seems to be the problem?? |
| 01:33.45 | blast007 | you can't register on the forum? |
| 01:33.48 | Nidhoggr | how are you trying to register? |
| 01:34.00 | Havoc_ | i dont know how.. |
| 01:34.01 | Havoc_ | lol |
| 01:34.18 | Nidhoggr | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 01:34.22 | Nidhoggr | click on register |
| 01:36.25 | Havoc_ | then what? |
| 01:38.29 | Silver[a] | hey, I need help troubleshooting something. I have a server I just turned up (hepcat.tybox.net:5157), but it has died 3 times. Each time following a particular player (kc9foh) joining. Any ideas? |
| 01:40.18 | blast007 | Havoc_: you need to fill out the form, go to your email and click on the activation link, and then log on to bzflag with your forum username and password |
| 01:40.30 | blast007 | it's all integrated with the forum now |
| 01:40.38 | Silver[a] | Log file doesn't show the person joining (but we see it in game). What log does show is many many lines that look like: uread() discard packet! x.x.146.218:55971 choices p(l) h:p |
| 01:41.31 | Silver[a] | what could be causing my bzfs server to die? (I haven't noticed this with the other two servers that are up on the same machine) |
| 01:42.06 | shorty114 | croak |
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| 01:42.25 | shorty114 | hello, stevek_ |
| 01:43.14 | Silver[a] | shorty114, brad2901 was just on and saw this problem I'm explaining... |
| 01:43.22 | stevek_ | hey shorty |
| 01:43.36 | sgk284 | there we go |
| 01:43.44 | shorty114 | Silver[a]: did you do -ddd? |
| 01:43.49 | shorty114 | * -dddd |
| 01:44.01 | blast007 | -dddd would show packet info I think |
| 01:44.06 | Silver[a] | it bogs things down, I'm afraid to, but I gues that's the next step. |
| 01:44.31 | blast007 | can that player join your other servers just fine? |
| 01:44.56 | Silver[a] | dunno, I haven't been able to talk to him yet. |
| 01:45.00 | shorty114 | weird...my monitor's flickering |
| 01:45.03 | Silver[a] | (server dies the second he joins) |
| 01:45.11 | Silver[a] | shorty114, hit it. |
| 01:45.12 | shorty114 | must be my magnetic personality ;) |
| 01:45.14 | blast007 | Silver[a]: hmmm...that's odd |
| 01:45.16 | Silver[a] | on the right. towards the top. |
| 01:45.22 | blast007 | shorty114: haha |
| 01:45.22 | shorty114 | Silver[a]: nope, still flickering :| |
| 01:45.25 | shorty114 | blast007: heh |
| 01:45.33 | shorty114 | eek |
| 01:45.38 | Silver[a] | hmm... pull the plug out of the back. |
| 01:45.45 | Silver[a] | that should stop it. ;) |
| 01:45.46 | shorty114 | i just hit the f12, which ejects the CD drive :| |
| 01:45.48 | shorty114 | LOL |
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| 01:45.51 | shorty114 | but it helps if i can see |
| 01:45.53 | shorty114 | hi orchid |
| 01:45.59 | sgk284 | hey orchid |
| 01:46.15 | orchid | hello |
| 01:46.33 | shorty114 | omfg |
| 01:46.37 | shorty114 | well, it's stopped |
| 01:46.44 | shorty114 | scratch that |
| 01:46.59 | blast007 | what did you do to make it stop? :) |
| 01:47.07 | shorty114 | i got up... |
| 01:47.08 | Silver[a] | he hit it. |
| 01:47.20 | shorty114 | guess it _is_ my magnetic personality >D |
| 01:47.32 | Silver[a] | it was your magnetic whatchamacallit |
| 01:47.48 | shorty114 | well, checked both connections... |
| 01:48.07 | shorty114 | either my eyelids are on caffine, or i'm imagining stuff. |
| 01:48.17 | shorty114 | or both |
| 01:48.22 | blast007 | might need to adjust the refresh rate |
| 01:48.28 | blast007 | they look flickery at 60Hz |
| 01:48.32 | blast007 | so try 75 or 85 |
| 01:48.35 | shorty114 | i'm at 75 |
| 01:48.39 | blast007 | k |
| 01:48.45 | shorty114 | it was workign perfectly about 10 minutes ago... |
| 01:49.26 | shorty114 | 832x624, @ 75 MHz |
| 01:49.31 | shorty114 | * Hz |
| 01:49.39 | blast007 | odd resolution :/ |
| 01:49.50 | shorty114 | it's the most my graphic card can spit out :D |
| 01:49.55 | blast007 | heh |
| 01:50.18 | blast007 | my 2MB card in my Pentium 133MHz can do 1024x768 ;) |
| 01:50.25 | blast007 | if not one higher than that |
| 01:50.37 | shorty114 | i'm not even sure i have a usable graphix card... |
| 01:50.46 | shorty114 | i might just be on the onboard... |
| 01:50.47 | shorty114 | :S |
| 01:51.04 | blast007 | well, it's still "usable", just not a card hehe |
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| 01:51.33 | shorty114 | hi Legoguy |
| 01:51.35 | blast007 | hehe |
| 01:55.04 | Silver[a] | ~bzfquery |
| 01:55.16 | Silver[a] | ~bzfquery viper.pimpi:5178 |
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| 01:56.37 | Legoguy | sheesh shorty114 you're everywhere :P |
| 01:56.49 | shorty114 | Legoguy: whois me and you'll see not :D |
| 01:56.53 | Legoguy | :P |
| 01:57.18 | Legoguy | yep, in #php and here |
| 01:57.41 | Legoguy | errm |
| 01:57.50 | Legoguy | i mean, both you and i are in #php and here |
| 01:57.55 | Legoguy | bah he left |
| 01:58.00 | blast007 | heh |
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| 01:58.57 | shorty114 | well, i found out ctrl+q = quit... |
| 01:59.12 | Pizbit_ | F12 too |
| 01:59.27 | shorty114 | i mean xchat :) |
| 01:59.27 | blast007 | not in XChat ;) |
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| 02:05.15 | KR | hi all |
| 02:05.28 | orchid | hi |
| 02:05.30 | DTRemenak | hi KR |
| 02:05.38 | blast007 | hello |
| 02:05.39 | KR | 2.0 looks *great* - YIPPEE for the Devs! :D |
| 02:05.44 | blast007 | :) |
| 02:05.46 | KR | good job |
| 02:06.00 | orchid | orchid@supergrass tmp $ unzip ballons_1024.ZIP |
| 02:06.00 | orchid | Archive: ballons_1024.ZIP |
| 02:06.01 | orchid | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:06.08 | orchid | :P |
| 02:06.13 | blast007 | orchid: lol |
| 02:06.17 | KR | lol |
| 02:06.22 | orange | hey KR |
| 02:06.40 | KR | ibot give the devs a balloon |
| 02:06.44 | Pizbit | orchid: Inflated with air or hellium?:) |
| 02:07.02 | orchid | I will ask zippy |
| 02:07.51 | KR | had a couple lock ups playing it |
| 02:08.08 | blast007 | what card do you have right now? |
| 02:08.09 | KR | happened with this card since 1.4 |
| 02:08.25 | orchid | !seen JeffM2501 |
| 02:08.26 | guu | orchid: JeffM2501 was last seen here 1 hour, 16 minutes, and 34 seconds ago saying: <JeffM2501> that's just cus the code isn't clean |
| 02:08.29 | blast007 | 1.10.4? |
| 02:08.34 | KR | GeForce 4 or 400 or something like that - 64M |
| 02:08.51 | blast007 | that should really be enough |
| 02:09.09 | KR | yeah I think it has to do with the nVidia drivers under Linux |
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| 02:09.30 | KR | has happened with lots of different distros |
| 02:10.07 | blast007 | I think there have been some issues wiht GF4/linux with 2.0 already |
| 02:10.20 | blast007 | smoothing tended to drop the FPS dramatically |
| 02:10.40 | KR | 1.10 was working good - only the occasional problem, very occasional |
| 02:10.46 | KR | 1.10.6 |
| 02:10.54 | Pizbit | Smoothing hasn't caused me any problems |
| 02:10.58 | Pizbit | GF4 |
| 02:11.05 | blast007 | Pizbit: is it an MX? |
| 02:11.09 | Pizbit | yep |
| 02:11.17 | blast007 | k |
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| 02:11.31 | blast007 | some users have had problems with it |
| 02:11.56 | KR | I'm getting a new case, so I can run my Atlon cool, so I think I'll splurge for a better card anyway |
| 02:12.03 | blast007 | :) |
| 02:12.18 | shorty114 | i'll take your old card... ;D |
| 02:12.44 | KR | lol - already have a system begging for it - but I'll have a 32M card I can give you then :) |
| 02:12.48 | blast007 | shorty114: you can get 'em for like $40 on pricewatch ;) |
| 02:14.20 | blast007 | wow, Radeon 9600SE for $71 |
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| 02:18.14 | shorty114 | w00t |
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| 02:27.30 | jacques | yes!!! bzfs is running on the nslu2! |
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| 02:28.08 | noyb | hi there! bz never looked so good... thanks again. |
| 02:31.02 | jacques | hmm something has changed with window mode - bzflag is now grabbing my F-keys (didn't used to) and it seems to crash when I switch to a differnt virtual screen (I used to do this all the time) |
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| 02:38.36 | jacques | bzadmin seems to be working on the nslu2 as well (as far as I can tell - I dunno how to use it yet) |
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| 02:50.36 | DBlue | hi all |
| 02:51.23 | DBlue | i was attempting to run besslers no flags server............ |
| 02:51.38 | DBlue | if anyone is familair |
| 02:52.12 | DBlue | he told me he didnt think oncer he went into hosp...he would come back out.......... |
| 02:52.34 | DBlue | but i thought it was cool a no flag server |
| 02:52.46 | DBlue | anyways........ |
| 02:53.00 | DBlue | anyone here know him,?> |
| 02:54.47 | DBlue | okay i am a purple monkey |
| 02:54.52 | DBlue | right? |
| 02:55.03 | DBlue | . |
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| 02:55.22 | DBlue | fruckwads |
| 02:55.45 | DBlue | now i know this chan is lost emanos |
| 02:56.00 | DBlue | eat me-ous |
| 02:56.05 | DBlue | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 02:56.12 | DBlue | loser channel |
| 02:56.26 | purple_cow | haha |
| 02:56.34 | Daddo | too bad he left |
| 02:59.05 | jacques | can a server run bots itself or do they always have to be a client? |
| 03:03.44 | blast007 | right now bots can only be done via a client |
| 03:04.01 | jacques | thanks |
| 03:04.46 | blast007 | there was once a headless client patch that could run it without a window, though that's quite outdated by now |
| 03:05.08 | jacques | how do ppl run servers that have bots on them? is it possible to "fill out" a server with bots that drop off as ppl join? |
| 03:05.39 | blast007 | they just run a client with -solo, and join as an observer |
| 03:05.52 | jacques | ok |
| 03:06.01 | blast007 | to make the bots join and leave as players join, you'd have to code that part yourself ;) |
| 03:17.50 | Daddo | does anyone know what the cause of the 'radar lag' is in 2.0? I have compensated by using 'leading' in the settings. Is it just my slowish computer? |
| 03:18.54 | blast007 | radar lag? |
| 03:19.19 | Daddo | yes - when I play my tank explodes before i see the bullet get near me on radar |
| 03:19.45 | blast007 | the front of the line is the bullet |
| 03:20.04 | blast007 | you can increase the radar shot size to make it more visible |
| 03:20.11 | Daddo | it really seems different from 10.x though |
| 03:20.13 | blast007 | or, use the leading style |
| 03:20.21 | blast007 | yeah, i think it changed |
| 03:20.24 | Daddo | yeah I did that - and that makes it ok |
| 03:20.28 | blast007 | thus the option |
| 03:20.36 | Daddo | so I'm not crazy then? |
| 03:20.44 | blast007 | nope :) |
| 03:20.53 | Daddo | ok |
| 03:21.01 | JBdiGriz | actually, you're crazy |
| 03:21.06 | Daddo | so I'll just use leading and be happy |
| 03:21.28 | Daddo | JB: I'm so hurt :P |
| 03:21.51 | JBdiGriz | Ok, you're hurt and crazy :P |
| 03:22.16 | Daddo | oh man - I'd better quit while I'm not too far behind |
| 03:22.29 | Daddo | just like in bz |
| 03:23.01 | blast007 | if you were really crazy, you wouldn't wonder if you were ;) |
| 03:23.15 | DTRemenak | that makes you...a crazy, hurt, quitter? |
| 03:23.21 | JBdiGriz | That would Yossarian over there |
| 03:23.30 | JBdiGriz | That would be Yossarian over there |
| 03:24.00 | Daddo | gee - amazing how things can get so twisted up :) |
| 03:24.38 | DTRemenak | twisted? yeah, that's another good adjective :) |
| 03:25.34 | blast007 | hehe |
| 03:25.47 | DTRemenak | sorry for the abuse, it's not mal-intentioned :) |
| 03:26.07 | Daddo | taken in the spirit in which it was given |
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| 03:35.29 | Daddo | hepcat (the no jumping one) is messed up I think |
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| 03:39.55 | usynic | where can I get bzflag 2.0 ? |
| 03:39.59 | usynic | the links on the site don't work |
| 03:40.45 | [shorty114] | they do... |
| 03:41.15 | usynic | maybe the used to, but not anymore |
| 03:41.19 | [shorty114] | hmm |
| 03:42.10 | [shorty114] | work for me. |
| 03:42.16 | [shorty114] | what are you trying to download? |
| 03:42.42 | usynic | http://ftp.bzflag.org/bzflag/bzflag-2.0.0.20050117.tar.bz2 |
| 03:42.42 | orchid | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3248&package_id=3165 |
| 03:42.51 | usynic | http://bzflag.org/wiki/Download#head-1e9e74ee97a3a534386e305758ab5198b3be37bb |
| 03:42.59 | usynic | the links right there don't work |
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| 03:45.24 | *** join/#bzflag Quol (~Quol@modemcable103.129-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 03:46.31 | JBdiGriz | hi quol |
| 03:46.47 | Quol | hey JB |
| 03:46.51 | Quol | how goes it? |
| 03:47.12 | JBdiGriz | About the same, too much work, not enough fun stuff to talk about ;) |
| 03:47.27 | Quol | hehe - sounds familiar |
| 03:49.48 | Quol | i started my new job this week |
| 03:50.08 | Quol | oh - and got a new server going - I should have it installed next week at some point - free bandwidth - yay :) |
| 03:50.10 | JBdiGriz | new company? |
| 03:50.19 | Quol | ya - new company |
| 03:50.44 | JBdiGriz | Still M$ dependent? |
| 03:51.02 | Quol | mixed |
| 03:51.17 | Quol | but all user management is win2k/2k3 Active Directory |
| 03:51.17 | JBdiGriz | That's a step in the right direction ;) |
| 03:51.35 | Quol | about 6000 employees worldwide |
| 03:51.49 | Quol | so it's a fairly large environment |
| 03:51.58 | JBdiGriz | Do they need more people in So Cal? |
| 03:52.34 | Quol | i will check..you looking? |
| 03:53.23 | JBdiGriz | I probably should be. My current company is giving me nothing but grief. I certainly have a number of good people that are leaving right now, and more who are looking. |
| 03:54.33 | Quol | well - check out the careers section: www.future.ca (select the careers link) |
| 03:54.48 | Quol | they seem to have many offices in CA |
| 03:55.43 | JBdiGriz | Hmmm, coldfire. That's a fun chip to play with. |
| 03:56.41 | Quol | heh - they are #3 worldwide as an electronic parts distributor |
| 03:56.43 | JBdiGriz | But nothing available. |
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| 03:57.04 | Quol | ya- nothing turned up in the search on this end either :) |
| 03:58.20 | Quol | I am playing a senior network architect role, so I get to play with some cool toys - at least I should be able too that is... |
| 03:58.46 | Quol | although I will be focusing on revamping the NT side of things a lot this year - trying to reduce M$ costs |
| 03:59.31 | JBdiGriz | It looks like the engineering positions are all in your area. |
| 03:59.44 | Quol | getting rid of all desktops - and going thin client with Terminal Services/RDP to central application cluster servers (about 20 or 30 nodes in the cluster), so some pretty big stuff |
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| 04:00.29 | JBdiGriz | Central administration of machines again. I think I did this about 20 years ago. ;) |
| 04:00.47 | Quol | ya - back to the ol mainframe mentality |
| 04:00.56 | Quol | what is that saying - history repeats itself :) |
| 04:01.44 | Quol | but when you are dealing with Microsoft and thousands of desktops worldwide - maintenance and support is a HUGE cost and a nightmare - |
| 04:02.24 | Quol | so back to terminals (this time they are pretty with nice GUI though), and big backends with lots of muscle |
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| 04:07.10 | creeperz | ok |
| 04:07.13 | creeperz | pop poll |
| 04:07.21 | creeperz | who would saay something stupid like this: |
| 04:07.30 | creeperz | "yeah, everybody would put stuff in the liquid soap" |
| 04:07.56 | creeperz | heres a hint: its Noodleman |
| 04:08.13 | creeperz | j00 all lose! |
| 04:08.28 | Noodleman | haha |
| 04:09.23 | creeperz | Noodleman |
| 04:09.36 | Noodleman | creeperz |
| 04:09.49 | creeperz | j00 == st00p1d |
| 04:09.54 | Noodleman | well |
| 04:10.01 | Noodleman | st00pid == j00 |
| 04:10.03 | Timpson | -sgk284++ |
| 04:12.32 | noyb | I think he meant to say... |
| 04:12.40 | noyb | ~karma sgk284 |
| 04:12.40 | ibot | sgk284 has karma of 28 |
| 04:12.51 | noyb | ~sgk284++ |
| 04:12.57 | noyb | ~karma sgk284 |
| 04:12.57 | ibot | sgk284 has karma of 29 |
| 04:13.18 | noyb | all is right in the world now... :) |
| 04:18.48 | sgk284 | hello |
| 04:18.52 | sgk284 | whats going on? |
| 04:19.28 | sgk284 | anyone know what i did to get a ++ ? |
| 04:19.29 | sgk284 | :) |
| 04:19.36 | DTRemenak | ~sgk284++ |
| 04:19.50 | sgk284 | btw is there a safe signal to send to the server that will kill it yet free the socket? |
| 04:19.54 | PrezKennedy | ~sgk284-- |
| 04:20.10 | sgk284 | i keep banning 127.0.0.1 to test a feature and its getting annoying that i keep incrememnting ports |
| 04:20.11 | PrezKennedy | for asking :-P |
| 04:20.14 | sgk284 | lol |
| 04:20.17 | sgk284 | thanks DTRemenak :) |
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| 04:22.56 | sgk284 | anybody? |
| 04:32.33 | MeBigFatGuy | mmm? |
| 04:34.15 | noyb | it was a hit and run karma increase... I saw the whole thing officer. Then I aided and abetted. :) |
| 04:34.36 | blast007 | hehe |
| 04:35.11 | noyb | ur just cool I guess. |
| 04:35.50 | noyb | story time for the kids. bbl. |
| 04:37.11 | sgk284 | cya noyb :) thanks |
| 04:38.18 | DTRemenak | sgk284, I don't know about anyone else, but I was just trying to screw with your head :) |
| 04:38.25 | DTRemenak | ~sgk284++ |
| 04:40.27 | sgk284 | lol |
| 04:40.39 | sgk284 | whats going on!! :P |
| 04:41.19 | sgk284 | something obviously is slightly out of place in the universe... my build just built |
| 04:41.57 | sgk284 | clumped hostban and single ban together... now onto whitelisting by callsign as toavoid the whole ip issue |
| 04:44.21 | sgk284 | lol you have to love the strict syntax of the bzflag server commands, not only does /playerlist work, but /playerlistdsvkjdvkjsbvsjbgvs works just as well too |
| 04:44.38 | sgk284 | :) |
| 04:44.44 | sgk284 | its a feature |
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| 04:49.10 | jpa- | morning |
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| 04:55.20 | jpa- | ~dict poke |
| 04:56.58 | bryjen | !seen JeffM2501 |
| 04:56.58 | guu | bryjen: JeffM2501 was last seen here 4 hours, 5 minutes, and 7 seconds ago saying: <JeffM2501> that's just cus the code isn't clean |
| 04:57.05 | creeperz | jpa-: to stab with one's finger or other extremity |
| 04:57.07 | creeperz | :-P |
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| 05:02.31 | sgk284 | morning jpa |
| 05:02.44 | sgk284 | wierd you dai that to me nearly 14 hours ago :) |
| 05:02.53 | sgk284 | s/dai/said |
| 05:05.47 | sgk284 | any reason i'm getting this? Host pattern added to banlist. WARNING: host patterns not supported in this compilation. |
| 05:05.57 | sgk284 | whatd i do wrong? :) |
| 05:09.07 | sgk284 | lol |
| 05:09.19 | sgk284 | hey sporty, how goes it? |
| 05:10.04 | SportChick | fine - just got back from a meeting |
| 05:11.07 | sgk284 | oh good :) |
| 05:11.11 | sgk284 | ~sportchick++ |
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| 05:12.48 | sgk284 | trepan: moving the banning to later on worked out real nice |
| 05:13.44 | wegstar | is lan here? |
| 05:14.02 | wegstar | ah..nvm |
| 05:14.26 | sgk284 | actually trepan i just noticed something peculiar, you around? |
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| 05:19.44 | brlcad | sgk284: host patterns not supported means it wasn't compiled with adns |
| 05:19.51 | sgk284 | okay |
| 05:20.02 | brlcad | that's required for hostban support |
| 05:21.17 | sgk284 | brlcad: hostban checking is currently done in "doStuffOnPlayer()", thing is though it only needs to be done once at the beginning of the conenction where as doStuffOnPlayer is called over and over again, it shouldnt break anythign by taking it out of there right? or is it looped for a reason |
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| 05:22.11 | sgk284 | i think i'm going to try and place both single ip and host banning into acceptPlayer() or some similar function |
| 05:23.04 | sgk284 | although from these benchmarks i'm running, its not affecting server performance at all... i'll let it be |
| 05:24.42 | brlcad | no, if they're added to the banlist while they're already connected.. that will kick them off |
| 05:25.06 | sgk284 | hrmm okay |
| 05:25.14 | sgk284 | makes sense |
| 05:25.18 | brlcad | unless you modify the hostban command to do check then and there |
| 05:25.26 | brlcad | then you'd only need it on connect/disconnect |
| 05:25.53 | brlcad | sounds like a good patch |
| 05:26.10 | sgk284 | k, i'll jot it down |
| 05:28.25 | brlcad | ~seen |tim| |
| 05:28.27 | ibot | |tim| <~|tim|@ip68-111-10-130.sb.sd.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #brlcad, 15d 4h 14m 54s ago, saying: 'yea'. |
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| 05:30.29 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o brlcad] by ChanServ |
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| 05:52.19 | jpa- | why am i so tired? |
| 05:56.07 | DTRemenak | jpa-, you ought to try sleeping |
| 05:56.12 | DTRemenak | it's fun |
| 05:57.16 | jpa- | i slept for many hours |
| 05:57.25 | jpa- | 2+6+½ |
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| 05:57.34 | jpa- | umm.. 8.5! |
| 05:58.47 | jpa- | SilverFox: hard to keep your nicknames in order? :) |
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| 06:18.44 | jpa- | morning pimpi |
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| 06:19.35 | FunkySurd | hi guys, i finished making a map with bzedit! how can i use the map to play the game on a single player mode ? |
| 06:20.53 | bryjen | brlcad: ping |
| 06:21.10 | jpa- | FunkySurd: start private bzflag server |
| 06:21.32 | FunkySurd | yea.. and how do i add the map to the server ? |
| 06:21.39 | jpa- | like bzfs -world myownworld.bzw -q -j +f good |
| 06:21.59 | FunkySurd | where do i feed that in ? |
| 06:22.29 | jpa- | umm.. your commandpromth? |
| 06:22.35 | jpa- | or are you a windows user? |
| 06:22.49 | FunkySurd | windows yea |
| 06:23.18 | jpa- | ok, i can't help then :) |
| 06:23.24 | brlcad | bryjen: pong |
| 06:23.29 | FunkySurd | oh ok.. thx anyways |
| 06:23.34 | orchid | FunkySurd: http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer |
| 06:24.29 | FunkySurd | thx |
| 06:24.33 | orchid | just ignore the public part |
| 06:24.46 | orchid | "running the server" has windows stuff |
| 06:25.22 | FunkySurd | ok |
| 06:25.26 | MeBigFatGuy | FunkySurd, start menu, run cmd |
| 06:25.39 | MeBigFatGuy | then cd to bzflag dir, and type it in |
| 06:26.07 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03sgk284 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Moved the single IP ban and Host ban code to addPlayer(). It is backwards compatible and saves the server a few extra loops. -Steve Krenzel |
| 06:26.25 | jpa- | sgk284: but will it work? :) |
| 06:26.32 | MeBigFatGuy | *shrug* |
| 06:27.00 | sgk284 | of course:) |
| 06:27.20 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03sgk284 * 10bzflag/include/Protocol.h: Added RejectIPBanned and RejectHostBanned as reject types. -Steve Krenzel |
| 06:27.26 | jpa- | oh, yes, i forgot it was your code :) |
| 06:27.30 | sgk284 | hehe |
| 06:27.40 | sgk284 | hey, there is always the revert button ;) |
| 06:28.02 | jpa- | your commits are permanent :) |
| 06:28.07 | sgk284 | heh |
| 06:29.05 | sgk284 | that much closer to being able to whitelist callsigns without worrying about dynamic ips... it will make life at secretplace so much easier |
| 06:29.50 | jpa- | but, anyway, why have you banned texas? :) |
| 06:30.08 | sgk284 | heh spoogebobspermpants |
| 06:30.15 | sgk284 | he was reckless... |
| 06:30.32 | sgk284 | so much trouble and whenever we banned he was back on within a minute, he just changed his ip |
| 06:30.46 | sgk284 | so we banned a large part of swbell in texas |
| 06:30.49 | bryjen | "reckless" is too polite a word |
| 06:30.53 | sgk284 | about half of texas is banned iirc |
| 06:31.02 | sgk284 | maybe a little more |
| 06:31.15 | sgk284 | one of our admin is from there so whitelisting is important:) |
| 06:31.27 | sgk284 | hopefully other server admin may find it useful too |
| 06:31.31 | sgk284 | bryjen: indeed |
| 06:32.20 | FunkySurd | cd "c:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.0" doesn't work in cmd promp |
| 06:32.23 | FunkySurd | any idea why ? |
| 06:32.39 | sgk284 | does the directory exist? |
| 06:32.41 | FunkySurd | it says parameter format not correct |
| 06:32.44 | sgk284 | is it just 2.0 |
| 06:32.45 | FunkySurd | yea it does |
| 06:32.47 | sgk284 | oh |
| 06:33.18 | sgk284 | dunno... i'm on *nix |
| 06:33.25 | sgk284 | maybe something to do with the quotes |
| 06:33.25 | jpa- | yup |
| 06:33.34 | bryjen | try just cd "c:\program files\" |
| 06:33.44 | bryjen | then do dir bz* |
| 06:33.57 | FunkySurd | same thing ! |
| 06:34.03 | FunkySurd | doesn't work |
| 06:34.14 | bryjen | what version of windows? |
| 06:34.21 | FunkySurd | xp pro sp2 |
| 06:34.39 | brlcad | jpa-: nothing's permanent .. it could be fully reverted if necessary ;) |
| 06:34.50 | jpa- | hmm.. private should work, anyway |
| 06:34.59 | jpa- | public server with sp2 is not possible |
| 06:34.59 | bryjen | maybe without the quotes? |
| 06:35.11 | bryjen | jpa-: why not? |
| 06:35.19 | jpa- | some bug bug |
| 06:35.24 | jpa- | it is in sf, too |
| 06:35.27 | FunkySurd | doesn't work ! :\ |
| 06:35.34 | sgk284 | FunkySurd, here's a fix for it: http://fedora.redhat.com/ |
| 06:35.42 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 06:35.48 | bryjen | sgk284: ha-ha |
| 06:35.55 | jpa- | brlcad: so you didn't make his commits permanent, 'cause you don't trust him? :) |
| 06:36.18 | brlcad | hrm? |
| 06:36.25 | brlcad | no that's the case for any commit |
| 06:36.25 | sgk284 | i wouldnt trust me |
| 06:36.32 | sgk284 | i mean uh... |
| 06:36.41 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 06:36.54 | Nidhoggr | apparently the filter.txt feature doesn't work for texas hunter. |
| 06:36.55 | jpa- | :) |
| 06:36.56 | sgk284 | jpa- anything in cvs can be undone as far as i know |
| 06:37.05 | Nidhoggr | so I'm not sure it works :) |
| 06:37.06 | jpa- | sounds bad |
| 06:37.17 | sgk284 | nidhoggr, very very close to having the filter stuff finished |
| 06:37.22 | Nidhoggr | cool beans! |
| 06:37.26 | jpa- | someone gets to admin machine and "click click click" undone everything |
| 06:37.38 | jpa- | then devs have to rewrite everything |
| 06:37.40 | sgk284 | made two commits tonight, one more tomorrow or friday should do it |
| 06:38.01 | Nidhoggr | I just worked on the same beading project for 3 days straight... kept breaking cords. :( |
| 06:38.06 | Nidhoggr | finally finished. |
| 06:38.11 | sgk284 | congrats:) |
| 06:38.15 | Nidhoggr | thanks. |
| 06:38.39 | Nidhoggr | it was annoying. I wasn't even being rough on the cord. it just broke. must be bad batch of silk. |
| 06:38.56 | brlcad | sgk284: haven't gotten the commit mail yet.. did that first commit kick the player on a hostban now or do they linger? |
| 06:39.20 | bryjen | i thought the /ban commands did an immediate check |
| 06:39.44 | brlcad | ban and kick do, not so sure about hostban |
| 06:39.45 | sgk284 | handleHostBanCmd already checked for violoations... so having the hostban code keep looping was a big waste:) |
| 06:39.58 | sgk284 | hostban does it too |
| 06:40.05 | brlcad | k |
| 06:40.29 | sgk284 | lines 746-782 in commands.cxx |
| 06:40.34 | sgk284 | :) |
| 06:40.44 | brlcad | so then I suppose the only other potential case might be someone editing the ban file by hand and doing a /reload? |
| 06:40.59 | sgk284 | i would think so |
| 06:41.12 | brlcad | would be good to check :) |
| 06:41.18 | sgk284 | :) |
| 06:41.36 | Nidhoggr | I still need to find a way to share banfiles across servers. |
| 06:41.42 | Nidhoggr | since I can share user files now. |
| 06:41.48 | Nidhoggr | with global verify |
| 06:41.53 | sgk284 | it doesnt |
| 06:42.02 | sgk284 | Nidhoggr, bzbb? |
| 06:42.35 | Nidhoggr | there is a global banfile |
| 06:42.44 | Nidhoggr | but not the same as sharing bans between servers. |
| 06:42.55 | sgk284 | are the servers all on th same machine? |
| 06:43.01 | Nidhoggr | I could probably do a ban based on bzbb users and add them to a group. |
| 06:43.03 | Nidhoggr | no |
| 06:43.07 | sgk284 | brlcad, it reload never did for any command |
| 06:43.20 | sgk284 | but why would it need to if the commands themselves check everytime they are ran? |
| 06:44.03 | sgk284 | Nidhoggr, hrmm yea something should definitly be able to be done about that |
| 06:44.10 | bryjen | add something to the file with vi, and then /reload |
| 06:44.24 | Nidhoggr | bryjen: that's what I've done in the past :) |
| 06:44.47 | jpa- | no-one uses vi :) |
| 06:45.00 | bryjen | err, that was for sgk284, as to why reload should check the current players |
| 06:45.03 | Nidhoggr | well, every weekday. |
| 06:45.24 | sgk284 | bryjen: oh |
| 06:45.33 | sgk284 | jpa-, everyone should use vi |
| 06:45.44 | jpa- | no. nano is better |
| 06:45.51 | bryjen | elvis! |
| 06:46.00 | sgk284 | nano is featureless... but i dont want to get into an editor war |
| 06:46.06 | Nidhoggr | nano/pico handle long lines very poorly. |
| 06:46.33 | jpa- | you just need a bigger console |
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| 06:46.45 | sgk284 | bryjen: if people read the documentation then they'd know to use the commands from the server rather then edit the text raw |
| 06:47.03 | sgk284 | bryjen, reload has never done that, but if you think its worth it, i have no problem adding it |
| 06:47.13 | bryjen | sgk284: tell Nidhoggr, not me |
| 06:47.23 | Nidhoggr | jpa-, I had to rescue someone's makefile today because the line wrapped when the opened it with pico -w, despite being -w. |
| 06:47.25 | sgk284 | lol you made the recommendation :) |
| 06:47.51 | bryjen | no, brlcad did. Nidhoggr says he direct-edits |
| 06:48.03 | sgk284 | Nidhoggr, you direct edit? |
| 06:48.12 | Nidhoggr | sgk284: I dare you to try to manage a very huge banfile with /banlist and /unban, etc. |
| 06:48.20 | Nidhoggr | it's totally impossible. |
| 06:48.22 | sgk284 | heh |
| 06:48.47 | sgk284 | fair enough |
| 06:48.52 | sgk284 | our banlist is huge... |
| 06:48.54 | Nidhoggr | not to mention that typing /banlist in a graphical client will often boot you off for too big of a queue. |
| 06:48.57 | sgk284 | it cant all be sent at once to the client |
| 06:49.05 | sgk284 | yep |
| 06:49.14 | jpa- | vi is like dc, fast to use, still simple, and totally good, but bc is still somehow better |
| 06:49.34 | sgk284 | jpa- spend 7 minutes in vimtutor and then recomment ;) |
| 06:49.58 | Nidhoggr | ok. sleep time. |
| 06:50.00 | Nidhoggr | nite all |
| 06:50.01 | Nidhoggr | & |
| 06:50.02 | sgk284 | g' nigt |
| 06:50.05 | bryjen | nite |
| 06:50.07 | noyb | see ya |
| 06:50.22 | jpa- | sgk284: is the time important? |
| 06:50.27 | sgk284 | lol no |
| 06:50.35 | sgk284 | just a random time |
| 06:50.41 | sgk284 | ~rand |
| 06:50.42 | ibot | 5 |
| 06:50.50 | sgk284 | jpa- spend 5 minutes in vimtutor and then recomment ;) |
| 06:50.57 | purple_cow | and goodnight. |
| 06:51.05 | sgk284 | lol g' night |
| 06:51.14 | bryjen | "subtly shouts" ? |
| 06:51.19 | sgk284 | ~rand |
| 06:51.20 | ibot | 1 |
| 06:51.30 | purple_cow | bryjen: absolutely :) |
| 06:51.39 | bryjen | purple_cow is an odd duck. |
| 06:51.41 | purple_cow | in something of a nonchalant way |
| 06:51.49 | jpa- | should i use hjkl instead of arrows? :S |
| 06:51.51 | jpa- | this is mad |
| 06:52.02 | purple_cow | jpa-: only if you're really in a hurry ;) |
| 06:52.34 | jpa- | how is that faster than the arrows? |
| 06:52.40 | sgk284 | high learning curve, but it pays off |
| 06:52.44 | purple_cow | you don't have to move your hand off the home row |
| 06:52.52 | sgk284 | because if you type properly... your fingers are already thee |
| 06:52.54 | sgk284 | there* |
| 06:53.12 | bryjen | sgk284: so it doesn't help you? |
| 06:53.18 | bryjen | ;) |
| 06:53.18 | sgk284 | not one bit |
| 06:53.22 | sgk284 | lol |
| 06:53.50 | sgk284 | i type too fast for my own good... i was jsut saying yesterday i need to start piping all my text through aspell |
| 06:54.05 | jpa- | but if i press esc so that i can move, my hands are no-longer there |
| 06:54.20 | sgk284 | press esc with your left pinky finger |
| 06:54.28 | jpa- | hmm.. |
| 06:54.28 | sgk284 | your hands barey move |
| 06:54.32 | jpa- | maybe :) |
| 06:54.33 | sgk284 | barely* |
| 06:54.39 | purple_cow | esc is the left hand, hjkl is the right |
| 06:54.48 | jpa- | but my pinky will grow longer and look stupid :) |
| 06:54.54 | sgk284 | if you "peck" type then vim is no good for you |
| 06:55.27 | sgk284 | i should get to bed... i have work in like 6 hours |
| 06:55.30 | sgk284 | :/ |
| 06:55.34 | sgk284 | g' night |
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| 06:56.03 | jpa- | ---> There is text misng this . |
| 06:56.09 | jpa- | no-one has typos like this |
| 06:56.14 | jpa- | hello sporty |
| 06:56.22 | SportChick | hi jpa- |
| 06:56.29 | brlcad | ack, sgk.. |
| 06:56.30 | SportChick | jpa-: you gonna behave today? |
| 06:56.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/clientCommands.cxx: reset binoculars on spawn 'cause you get all wiggie-like if not. |
| 06:56.44 | jpa- | SportChick: didn't i yesterday? |
| 06:56.55 | SportChick | jpa-: what do YOU think? |
| 06:56.59 | SportChick | ~karma jpa- |
| 06:56.59 | ibot | jpa- has neutral karma |
| 06:57.14 | jpa- | it's not negative, atleast |
| 06:57.25 | bryjen | MeBigFatGuy gettin wiggie :) |
| 06:57.43 | MeBigFatGuy | ;) |
| 06:58.13 | SportChick | ~karma Nidhoggr |
| 06:58.13 | ibot | nidhoggr has karma of 56 |
| 06:58.21 | SportChick | jpa-: now THAT's karma |
| 06:58.51 | noyb | oooh, I like that binoc reset! Yay! I use binocs all the time, and that's a great idea. Thanks! |
| 06:59.18 | jpa- | ~karma SportChick |
| 06:59.18 | ibot | sportchick has karma of 53 |
| 06:59.21 | jpa- | hmph |
| 06:59.44 | jpa- | you are just too nice to say what you think :) |
| 07:00.57 | jpa- | you? |
| 07:01.24 | jpa- | people just take my karma away as soon as i tell a single offensive joke |
| 07:01.39 | bryjen | ogress |
| 07:02.00 | SportChick | bryjen: well, true |
| 07:02.02 | SportChick | :) |
| 07:02.15 | noyb | ogrette? |
| 07:02.37 | bryjen | ~dict ogress |
| 07:03.35 | jpa- | ~dict ogre |
| 07:03.51 | jpa- | hmm |
| 07:03.53 | jpa- | sounds bad |
| 07:04.42 | bryjen | there was a series of books... a female troll was a trollop ;) |
| 07:04.46 | brlcad | ogrette with mushrooms, cheese, ham, and tomato .. served with a bagel and some chives to garnish |
| 07:05.35 | jpa- | so where is the ogrette? :) |
| 07:05.59 | noyb | ~dict vinegrette |
| 07:06.05 | noyb | woops |
| 07:06.15 | SportChick | ~dict vinagrette |
| 07:06.19 | jpa- | hmph, how am i supposed to type c$ |
| 07:06.31 | jpa- | it must be most difficult command ever invented |
| 07:06.42 | jpa- | c altgr-4 |
| 07:07.03 | SportChick | ~dict vinaigrette |
| 07:07.27 | jpa- | bryjen: well, you people have strange keyboards :) |
| 07:07.34 | jpa- | and shift is difficult, too |
| 07:07.41 | bryjen | yes, you certainly do :) |
| 07:08.20 | bryjen | ah, US people. |
| 07:09.11 | jpa- | :) |
| 07:09.32 | jpa- | i type "you people", bryjen reads "some people" and understands "us people" |
| 07:10.31 | bryjen | well, there's US(A) and the rest of you |
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| 07:11.15 | jpa- | like, some stupid people, and the others :) |
| 07:11.21 | jpa- | hello JeffM2501 |
| 07:13.04 | bryjen | this one should be asleep |
| 07:13.37 | jpa- | sleeping is of no use - you are tired when you wake, anyway |
| 07:14.04 | jpa- | wow, i got a global notice :) |
| 07:17.07 | JeffM2501 | hello |
| 07:17.17 | bryjen | ~dict omelette |
| 07:17.25 | JeffM2501 | everyone did |
| 07:17.35 | JeffM2501 | that is why it's called "global" |
| 07:17.36 | jpa- | well, it is global :) |
| 07:17.40 | jpa- | yup :P |
| 07:17.53 | bryjen | a bit slow also |
| 07:18.26 | jpa- | ~dict food |
| 07:19.13 | jpa- | so i just give you something to think about and your hunger is gone? |
| 07:25.15 | jpa- | eww |
| 07:25.19 | jpa- | i want waffles |
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| 07:29.22 | izto | Hello |
| 07:29.22 | jpa- | hello |
| 07:29.52 | izto | I'm trying out bzflag 2.0.0 but I can't connect anywhere. Always fails when unpacking the world database. Any hints? |
| 07:30.09 | jpa- | which operating system? |
| 07:30.15 | izto | linux |
| 07:30.35 | jpa- | does it give anything to terminal if you start it from command line? |
| 07:31.05 | izto | I get this when running with -d: |
| 07:31.13 | izto | ContextInitializer::executeFreeFuncs() start |
| 07:31.13 | izto | ContextInitializer::executeFreeFuncs() end |
| 07:31.13 | izto | ContextInitializer::executeInitFuncs() start |
| 07:31.13 | izto | ContextInitializer::executeInitFuncs() end |
| 07:31.13 | izto | setTextureFilter() Couldn't find texid: -1 |
| 07:31.14 | izto | WorldBuilder::unpack() could not decompress |
| 07:31.58 | jpa- | which distribution? |
| 07:33.42 | izto | Slackware 8.0. I just finished compiling bzflag-2.0.0. bzflag-1.10.4 works just fine. |
| 07:34.31 | jpa- | only hint i can give is to try rename/remove .bzf folder under your home dir |
| 07:35.52 | izto | Didn't help :-/ I guess it's time to bring in the bug gun and run it with gdb. |
| 07:36.02 | izto | Thx anyway :) |
| 07:36.14 | jpa- | np :) |
| 07:36.39 | JeffM2501 | your GL is jacked |
| 07:36.42 | JeffM2501 | do you have SDL? |
| 07:37.58 | izto | Now that you mention it, the configure script did say "No SDL!" in the summary after running. Do you think I should look into it? It displays all graphics allright, but can't unpack the world database when it downloads it. |
| 07:38.32 | brlcad | howdy izto |
| 07:38.35 | JeffM2501 | well the first error you see is a context one |
| 07:38.42 | JeffM2501 | that says it can't find a texture ID |
| 07:38.51 | JeffM2501 | most people are building SDL these days |
| 07:39.09 | JeffM2501 | any responce learner ? |
| 07:39.24 | learner | not yet |
| 07:39.45 | JeffM2501 | ha, bzedit dosn't even build in .net |
| 07:39.55 | JeffM2501 | learner: know much about darwine? |
| 07:40.06 | JeffM2501 | and it's winelib port? |
| 07:41.06 | learner | only that thyey're working on it |
| 07:41.32 | izto | Yo learner |
| 07:41.35 | JeffM2501 | from the page it looked like they have it working with x11 under osx but not aqua |
| 07:43.04 | izto | Cya all later |
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| 09:13.43 | siimo | is there ever going to be a high jump flag ? :-/ |
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| 10:17.04 | bz | hello |
| 10:17.47 | bz | i have a problem with BzFlag 2 on my debian desktop |
| 10:19.09 | bz | whet it starts it hangs with a black screen and shows only 4 labels All, Chat, server, Misc. |
| 10:20.15 | bz | may be someone knows how to fix it? |
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| 10:25.16 | Chestal | bz: in case you had played an older version before, itmight be a config problem. Try and startwith a fresh config my moving/erasing ~/.bzf |
| 10:26.54 | bz | already done it |
| 10:27.09 | bz | nothing changed |
| 10:33.10 | Chestal | hmm, you could try and edit the config file |
| 10:33.28 | Chestal | find the motd line and replace it with "set motdServer http://127.0.0.1" |
| 10:34.05 | Chestal | you can also start bzflag with several -d parameters |
| 10:38.27 | bz | parameters don't work |
| 10:40.20 | bz | but "set motdServer http://127.0.0.1" succeed |
| 10:41.25 | bz | thank you very much, but what has changed? |
| 10:44.53 | Chestal | bz does a http connecton to retrieve the motd, a short message which is then displayed |
| 10:45.00 | Chestal | this is a workaround to disable that |
| 10:45.07 | Chestal | not sure why it wouldn't work for you |
| 10:45.55 | Chestal | do you need to use a proxy for web access? |
| 10:46.08 | Chestal | http://bzflag.org/motd.php is the default URL it tries to connect to |
| 10:49.57 | bz | yes, i'm behind proxy |
| 10:50.20 | bz | why brightness isn't restored when I quit ? |
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| 11:56.19 | jpa- | afternoon |
| 11:57.12 | cods | hi |
| 11:58.18 | jpa- | cods :) |
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| 12:07.49 | jpa- | lag lag |
| 12:07.49 | jpa- | hmm |
| 12:07.50 | jpa- | and suddenly all lag is gone |
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| 14:20.31 | jpa- | ~bzflist |
| 14:21.16 | jpa- | hmm.. wondering what made viper two castles so big a success |
| 14:25.36 | Pimpinella | it took me a long time until i released, that it's a high quality map |
| 14:29.41 | Pimpinella | i really like to play there now, and i'm a ducati guy :P |
| 14:30.04 | jpa- | how much of it is designed and how much "just happens to be like that"? :) |
| 14:30.20 | Pimpinella | hm? |
| 14:30.43 | jpa- | ie. did you have a specific reason for the water around bases? |
| 14:31.08 | Pimpinella | it wasn't always as it is now, the map grew |
| 14:31.29 | Pimpinella | no, wxcept, that you would expect water around a castle |
| 14:31.45 | jpa- | oh, then i haven't been around for long enough |
| 14:31.56 | jpa- | i remember that the map has always been the same |
| 14:32.26 | Pimpinella | i'm just working on some modifications |
| 14:32.49 | jpa- | yes, i heard that it is going to change |
| 14:33.09 | Pimpinella | first had to redifine the whole map |
| 14:33.25 | Pimpinella | bzedit always leaves an ugly mess |
| 14:33.31 | jpa- | yup |
| 14:33.43 | jpa- | and, a lot of things are easier now |
| 14:33.56 | Pimpinella | and i don't think viper eer took a look at the sourcecode |
| 14:34.14 | jpa- | you need only to make group for one side, and spin 180 0 0 1 |
| 14:34.26 | Pimpinella | sure, thats what i did |
| 14:34.39 | Pimpinella | also grouped the stuff |
| 14:34.42 | jpa- | too bad i didn't know that when i made my map, i copypasted everything and changed rotations & positions :) |
| 14:34.51 | Pimpinella | :( |
| 14:35.28 | jpa- | now it is an ugly mess and i don't want to touch it :) |
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| 14:57.38 | Chestal | hi RB2 |
| 14:58.25 | RedBaron2 | hey ches |
| 14:59.08 | RedBaron2 | how's it goin? |
| 14:59.30 | Chestal | I am unreasonably tired |
| 14:59.34 | Chestal | have no clue why |
| 14:59.50 | RedBaron2 | uh oh, thats not good |
| 15:00.06 | Chestal | and yourself? |
| 15:00.16 | RedBaron2 | not bad myself |
| 15:00.28 | RedBaron2 | :) |
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| 15:01.49 | jpa- | tell me, what howto shall i do today? |
| 15:02.37 | Chestal | write a bzflag vars howto |
| 15:02.44 | jpa- | njah |
| 15:02.50 | jpa- | it is not new :) |
| 15:02.59 | jpa- | maybe texmat, then |
| 15:03.05 | jpa- | should be easy |
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| 15:25.16 | jpa- | trepan: be present |
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| 15:29.56 | sgk284 | g' morning |
| 15:30.01 | RedBaron2 | mornin |
| 15:30.15 | bryjen | good morning |
| 15:30.47 | bryjen | jpa-: perhaps you mean "Are you here?" |
| 15:30.53 | bryjen | ~seen trepan |
| 15:30.57 | ibot | trepan is currently on #bzflag. Has said a total of 204 messages. Is idling for 15h 52m 50s |
| 15:31.33 | jpa- | no, i mean "be here" |
| 15:31.33 | jpa- | like an order |
| 15:32.07 | bryjen | he's probably still asleep |
| 15:32.22 | jpa- | hmph, he sleeps long |
| 15:32.29 | jpa- | wish i would have that much time |
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| 15:36.37 | sgk284 | ahh nothing like tunneling through a socks5 ssh tunnel to use the irc::cgi web interface just to get my daily dose of bzflag IRCness |
| 15:37.38 | mmu_man | arf |
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| 15:40.34 | RedBaron2 | hoi priv :) |
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| 15:41.57 | sgk284 | thought its worth mentioning that the link in the getting help section of bzflag.org for irc is broken |
| 15:42.07 | sgk284 | have to go through my.bzflag.org instead |
| 15:42.13 | sgk284 | hey SportChick |
| 15:42.26 | SportChick | hi sgk |
| 15:42.55 | RedBaron2 | hey SC |
| 15:43.11 | SportChick | hi redbaron |
| 15:43.33 | Nidhoggr | going to test and see how well bzfs runs on a cobalt raq4. |
| 15:44.31 | Nidhoggr | hiya sgk284 SportChick RedBaron2 trepan |
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| 15:44.56 | Nidhoggr | g'morning JBdiGriz |
| 15:45.07 | TimRiker | http://www.thinkinsane.com/bzflagshirt.html <- thoughts? /me already asked to change "bzf" to "BZF". |
| 15:45.15 | JBdiGriz | G' Morning MVF |
| 15:45.23 | Nidhoggr | TimRiker: his design is brilliant. |
| 15:45.45 | Nidhoggr | nothing like a professional artist doing designs. :) |
| 15:46.30 | TimRiker | Nidhoggr: agreed. he's planning to sell them and direct the profits towards the project. Sounds reasonable to me. |
| 15:46.35 | Nidhoggr | yep |
| 15:46.38 | Nidhoggr | he's a good guy. |
| 15:47.01 | bryjen | domainnames are case-insensitive ;) |
| 15:47.09 | TimRiker | ~spell mehs |
| 15:47.11 | ibot | possible spellings for mehs: mesh mes megs Me's meas mess mews mens mets |
| 15:47.51 | TimRiker | bryjen: while true... Trademarks are not, and I treat BZFlag and BZFlag.org as trademarks even though they are not registered. |
| 15:48.24 | bryjen | mesh? oh no, he's seen the net! quick, Nidhoggr, the use straightjacket! ;) |
| 15:48.51 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 15:49.24 | sgk284 | hey nidhoggr |
| 15:49.33 | Nidhoggr | how goes, sgk284? |
| 15:49.39 | sgk284 | goes well |
| 15:49.43 | Nidhoggr | that's good :) |
| 15:49.52 | sgk284 | and yourself? |
| 15:49.56 | bryjen | hmm, who's the imates and who's the warden in this asylum again? |
| 15:50.18 | Nidhoggr | Apples new iMates 1.0! |
| 15:51.47 | bryjen | what? by a maker of PCs that are incompatible with the majority of others? |
| 15:51.53 | sgk284 | timriker, so bzflag.org cant be on the shirt? |
| 15:52.07 | Nidhoggr | sgk it has to be BZFlag.org |
| 15:52.13 | Nidhoggr | instead of bzflag.org |
| 15:52.21 | sgk284 | oh... okay |
| 15:52.25 | sgk284 | now i see:) |
| 15:52.42 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 15:52.55 | sgk284 | are trademarks case sensitive? |
| 15:53.01 | sgk284 | lol nice one nid |
| 15:53.05 | Nidhoggr | they are what you want them to be. |
| 15:53.20 | SportChick | hiya nid |
| 15:53.28 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 15:53.50 | TimRiker | sgk284: just prefer BZFlag.org even if the caps are somewhat smaller than normal. |
| 15:54.00 | bryjen | companies sue over domainnames that aren't even spelled right, let alone same case. |
| 15:54.27 | sgk284 | heh |
| 15:55.01 | TimRiker | =) no planning on suing anyone, just propigating the same trademarkish formatting. |
| 15:55.11 | bryjen | http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/26/dell_domain_dispute/ |
| 15:55.17 | TimRiker | hence the references to my.BZFlag.org are all written that way. |
| 15:55.35 | brlcad | cute shirt |
| 15:55.44 | sgk284 | google sued over frugle |
| 15:56.02 | brlcad | though capping the BZF will change how it's balanced |
| 15:56.05 | brlcad | oof! |
| 15:56.22 | sgk284 | about a year ago i was going to write a real simple search engine and call it gnugle but figured i better not press my luck |
| 15:56.24 | bryjen | Good Morning |
| 15:56.30 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 15:56.31 | brlcad | gutenmorgen |
| 15:58.56 | JBdiGriz | Buenos dias |
| 16:00.04 | *** join/#bzflag newbie__dont (~janko@dkj66.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 16:00.25 | cods | militaires et indous ? j'ai pas. Mais j'ai nain et ougandais, pompier et afghans ou encore charcutier et polonais sinon. |
| 16:00.29 | cods | wow wow wow |
| 16:00.37 | cods | completly missed the window |
| 16:00.37 | bryjen | !ww |
| 16:00.37 | guu | wrong window bryjen |
| 16:00.50 | bryjen | mine was right, cods was wrong |
| 16:00.54 | cods | (and without context, outch) |
| 16:01.52 | cods | bad habit to hit up arrow key + enter.. Was intended for a shell window.. |
| 16:02.12 | Grumbler | ~brlcad-- |
| 16:02.28 | JBdiGriz | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:03.37 | cods | JBdiGriz: hitting up arrow key and enter in a shell don't copy&paste from irc.. just repeat the last command.. |
| 16:03.47 | bryjen | Cerberus? |
| 16:03.53 | brlcad | eek, qué te hice Grumbler ? |
| 16:04.08 | brlcad | heh |
| 16:04.08 | JBdiGriz | bryjen: You need three steaks for him |
| 16:04.19 | brlcad | mm.. steak |
| 16:04.28 | Grumbler | they are wooden |
| 16:04.32 | bryjen | hmm, either google's translation is off, or cods is smoking some good stuff |
| 16:04.49 | SportChick | ohai o gazaimuz |
| 16:04.54 | JBdiGriz | It's only dogma, a wooden stake would be as good ;) |
| 16:05.05 | cods | unfortunately, without context my sentence may seem.. hmm.. weird :) |
| 16:05.07 | Grumbler | ohai o SportChick |
| 16:05.14 | brlcad | mm.. dogma steak |
| 16:05.39 | Grumbler | hmmm or shoudl that be SportChick-san |
| 16:07.18 | SportChick | nidhoggr or sgk284: you may want to keep an eye on sp 2.0 - I'm going to work and there's a load of people there |
| 16:07.19 | jpa- | -chan means cute.. wouldn't fit for her |
| 16:07.34 | SportChick | ~jpa--- |
| 16:07.49 | jpa- | losing my karma again :) |
| 16:07.55 | Grumbler | ~SportChick++ |
| 16:08.09 | jpa- | ~jpa--- |
| 16:08.14 | SportChick | except you |
| 16:08.22 | jpa- | hmph |
| 16:08.32 | SportChick | ~karma jpa- |
| 16:08.32 | ibot | jpa- has karma of -1 |
| 16:08.38 | SportChick | ~jpa--- |
| 16:08.45 | brlcad | heh |
| 16:08.54 | Grumbler | ~brlcad++ |
| 16:09.12 | SportChick | ~brlcad++ |
| 16:09.12 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 16:09.15 | SportChick | ~grumbler++ |
| 16:09.18 | jpa- | even a lot negative is better than neutral :) |
| 16:09.21 | SportChick | ~Nidhoggr+ |
| 16:09.27 | SportChick | ~TimRiker++ |
| 16:09.39 | SportChick | ~jpa--- |
| 16:09.53 | Grumbler | only one + for Nidhoggr , what did he do? |
| 16:10.09 | Grumbler | ~TimRiker-- |
| 16:10.51 | SportChick | Nidhoggr is great! |
| 16:10.54 | SportChick | ~Nidhoggr++ |
| 16:11.01 | SportChick | but his come at a more spaced out pace |
| 16:11.25 | jpa- | ~SportChick++ |
| 16:11.30 | SportChick | hrmph |
| 16:11.36 | SportChick | why are you suddenly trying to b enice? |
| 16:12.05 | DTRemenak | would you rather he continues to be mean? |
| 16:12.06 | SportChick | jpa-: niceness is measured over a length of time, not 2 seconds :) BUT, thank you |
| 16:12.16 | SportChick | DTRemenak: of course not |
| 16:12.20 | jpa- | i'm not trying to be nice |
| 16:12.20 | SportChick | mean people suck |
| 16:12.27 | DTRemenak | ~jpa--- |
| 16:12.37 | SportChick | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 16:12.44 | jpa- | i just feel bad for you, suddenly realising your not-cuteness and it all is due to me :S |
| 16:12.45 | Grumbler | ~dict karma |
| 16:12.55 | DTRemenak | jpa-: you ought to try to be nice :) |
| 16:13.07 | jpa- | why |
| 16:13.18 | DTRemenak | SportChick, ah, paying people to do your dirty work now, huh? ;) |
| 16:13.19 | jpa- | i like being mean :) |
| 16:13.36 | DTRemenak | jpa-, why? |
| 16:13.59 | jpa- | hmm.. good question |
| 16:14.17 | bryjen | incarnation happens all the time. its whether or not the same person can do it twice ;) |
| 16:15.50 | SportChick | ~dict incarnation |
| 16:15.52 | *** mode/#bzflag [+R] by brlcad |
| 16:16.27 | SportChick | DTRemenak: hey, I SAID I'd give karma to anyone who took away jps |
| 16:16.30 | SportChick | jpa's |
| 16:17.02 | DTRemenak | SportChick, yeah, and SAYING that was the source of my comment :) |
| 16:17.10 | sgk284 | ~fishslap jpa- |
| 16:17.12 | ibot | ACTION slaps jpa- up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 16:18.35 | jpa- | hmph |
| 16:18.54 | jpa- | three messages of mine were lost in bit-heaven because of +R :S |
| 16:19.42 | jpa- | while i don't get the idea behind it ; what good does it do? |
| 16:20.39 | jpa- | and, i don't need channels with +R |
| 16:20.42 | *** part/#bzflag jpa- (jpa@box.kapsi.fi) |
| 16:21.24 | bryjen | he hasn't always been such a pest, has he? |
| 16:21.49 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (~timr@TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 16:21.49 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 16:22.05 | sgk284 | it didnt seem like him... |
| 16:22.09 | sgk284 | impersonator! |
| 16:22.09 | *** join/#bzflag t-s (~ts@pD956319C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:22.31 | bryjen | for the last couple of days tho |
| 16:22.53 | sgk284 | jpa- is a guy right? |
| 16:23.09 | sgk284 | better go find them |
| 16:23.11 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 16:23.25 | bryjen | on the internet, who really knows anyway... |
| 16:28.20 | sgk284 | hey trepan |
| 16:28.39 | trepan | hiya |
| 16:29.06 | sgk284 | how goes it? |
| 16:29.15 | trepan | ~weather cyow |
| 16:29.27 | trepan | it's cold |
| 16:29.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [-R] by brlcad |
| 16:30.33 | sgk284 | ~brlcad |
| 16:30.34 | ibot | i heard brlcad is like a learner wrapped in tofu best served chilled |
| 16:30.43 | sgk284 | ~brlcad |
| 16:30.44 | ibot | brlcad is, like, like a learner wrapped in tofu best served chilled |
| 16:30.50 | sgk284 | hmm cgi doesnt do |
| 16:30.53 | sgk284 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:30.58 | sgk284 | plusses |
| 16:31.02 | sgk284 | plus plus |
| 16:31.11 | sgk284 | - - |
| 16:31.16 | trepan | sgk284: i see that you're setting up for the delaying banning/whitelist, good show |
| 16:31.28 | sgk284 | thanks:) |
| 16:31.36 | sgk284 | yea tha banning part is done |
| 16:31.41 | sgk284 | now for th whitelisting |
| 16:31.44 | sgk284 | the* |
| 16:32.04 | sgk284 | should be able to whitelist a callsign so we dont need to worry about dynamic ips |
| 16:32.12 | *** join/#bzflag poxy (andy@www.bettagirl.com) |
| 16:32.41 | sgk284 | slightly changed protocol.h but it didnt break anything:) |
| 16:32.59 | sgk284 | ~weather kphl |
| 16:33.01 | Nidhoggr | getting segfault on bzfs on the cobalt. :/ |
| 16:33.25 | sgk284 | nidhoggr, know whats casuing it? |
| 16:33.48 | Nidhoggr | let me reinstall unstripped bzfs and run strace. |
| 16:34.36 | trepan | sgk284: luckily, those reasons don't appear to be used in the client anymore :) |
| 16:34.56 | sgk284 | :) |
| 16:35.09 | sgk284 | yea... the client didnt crash so i figured it was good as gold |
| 16:35.43 | Nidhoggr | hrm. I think it might be the filter.txt |
| 16:35.45 | Nidhoggr | let me rm it. |
| 16:36.16 | sgk284 | trepan, i was just going to use 0x0000 but i figured i'd add the two for consistency |
| 16:36.19 | sgk284 | :) |
| 16:36.55 | trepan | good call |
| 16:37.21 | sgk284 | work is so boring....cant wait to get outta here |
| 16:37.31 | sgk284 | :) |
| 16:38.36 | Nidhoggr | yep... that fixed it. |
| 16:38.44 | Nidhoggr | filter.txt killed it. |
| 16:38.52 | sgk284 | ~nidhoggr plus plus |
| 16:39.11 | sgk284 | cgi doesnt do plusses |
| 16:39.13 | sgk284 | :( |
| 16:39.58 | brlcad | sgk284: good reason to get a real irc client ;) |
| 16:40.04 | *** join/#bzflag sommertimer3 (ET8HI7Lm@pool-70-23-49-176.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 16:40.32 | Nidhoggr | it's up on bzflag.hipspot.net. |
| 16:40.32 | sgk284 | brlcad, i usually use xchat... but today i'm tunneling through ssh using a socks5 proxy to get to the web |
| 16:40.54 | brlcad | ah |
| 16:42.38 | Nidhoggr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:42.56 | trepan | brlcad: you also get some code? |
| 16:42.58 | sgk284 | ~google chris fouts |
| 16:43.28 | brlcad | he's the guy that wrote "bz" .. the 'other' tank combat game that shipped on the sgi along with bzflag |
| 16:43.30 | TimRiker | sgk284: re new reject types: you are testing to insure that oldclient-newserver and newclient-oldserver are completely supported? |
| 16:43.48 | Nidhoggr | aaah |
| 16:43.55 | sgk284 | 2.0 client worked fine with cvs server |
| 16:44.03 | sgk284 | client doest use reject types anymore |
| 16:44.19 | brlcad | trepan: no, he ran into a snag when he looked at the code last night (for the first time in 10 years) .. is contacting sgi regarding license |
| 16:44.21 | TimRiker | k |
| 16:45.11 | TimRiker | someone talked to fouts? brlcad? |
| 16:45.12 | sgk284 | brlcad, there a problem? |
| 16:47.29 | *** join/#bzflag SportyGal (sportygali@67-21-174-30.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 16:47.55 | sgk284 | hey sporty |
| 16:48.52 | sgk284 | brlcad, "The two games share no code and were designed and written independently" |
| 16:48.58 | sgk284 | is there sgi code in bzflag? |
| 16:49.11 | sgk284 | that quote is from the project history |
| 16:53.48 | *** join/#bzflag stevek (stevek@dragon.org) |
| 16:53.53 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 16:54.08 | stevek | hello |
| 16:55.13 | RedBaron2 | hi |
| 16:55.18 | stevek | nidhoggr, can i do pm's with this? |
| 16:55.23 | stevek | :) |
| 16:55.36 | Nidhoggr | yep |
| 16:55.43 | *** join/#bzflag TheRedBaron (~d8ada652@rw08.de) |
| 16:55.49 | Nidhoggr | you already are :) |
| 16:56.07 | stevek | lol how do i read them? |
| 16:56.09 | Nidhoggr | if you do /msg Nid<tab> it should fill in my name. |
| 16:56.12 | Nidhoggr | ooooh. |
| 16:56.17 | Noodle-sensei | xchat is the bastard spawn of satan |
| 16:56.24 | stevek | Noodle-sensei: lol |
| 16:56.35 | Nidhoggr | escape and window number. |
| 16:56.35 | Nidhoggr | so it might say [act: #,#] |
| 16:56.46 | Nidhoggr | so escape then number |
| 16:56.48 | stevek | ahh |
| 16:57.00 | Noodle-sensei | now, irssi is the legitimate spawn of satan :-P |
| 16:57.33 | stevek | heh |
| 16:57.41 | TheRedBaron | and CGI:IRC is...? |
| 16:57.59 | Nidhoggr | CGI:IRC is the poo of satan. :) |
| 16:58.23 | sgk284 | lol |
| 16:58.27 | TheRedBaron | hmmm |
| 16:58.30 | sgk284 | ~nidhoggr++ |
| 16:58.38 | ep | Hi guys, I've recently migrated to Linux (noob) -- I'd like to try 2.0 but i suspect I might be waiting forever on a Mandrake package. Practical advise, should I try to build it? |
| 16:58.41 | TheRedBaron | so which is worse/better? |
| 16:58.46 | TheRedBaron | xchat or CGI? |
| 16:58.57 | Nidhoggr | xchat is prob better. |
| 16:59.22 | sgk284 | whats wrong with xchat?! |
| 16:59.25 | sgk284 | its marvelous |
| 16:59.37 | sgk284 | it has scripting, its easy to use... what else do ya need? |
| 16:59.43 | ep | a woman |
| 16:59.54 | sgk284 | have that too, hell she does the typing for me |
| 16:59.55 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 17:00.37 | SportyGal | sgk284: hi |
| 17:01.25 | sgk284 | hey SportyGal |
| 17:02.13 | bryjen | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 92.332/102.205/445.525/28.988 ms doesn't seem so bad... hmm |
| 17:02.38 | Noodle-sensei | sgk284: it has too much chrome, not enough irc space |
| 17:02.54 | Noodle-sensei | chrome == buttons, menus, etc. |
| 17:02.58 | bryjen | err 455 is a bit high, but its 1 out of 1000 |
| 17:03.20 | Noodle-sensei | that's why i like irssi, short and to the point :-) |
| 17:03.31 | TheRedBaron | now don't be hating on chrome |
| 17:03.58 | Noodle-sensei | i don't like to move my hands from the keyboard to the mouse all the time |
| 17:04.22 | sgk284 | this is about as productive as an editor war |
| 17:04.25 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 17:04.26 | TheRedBaron | learn the keyboard short-cuts. |
| 17:04.33 | TheRedBaron | ;) |
| 17:04.33 | sgk284 | vim obviously always wins |
| 17:04.40 | Noodle-sensei | emacs forever |
| 17:04.46 | Noodle-sensei | ~lart sgk284 |
| 17:04.50 | SportyGal | ~seen jpa- |
| 17:04.52 | ibot | jpa- <jpa@box.kapsi.fi> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 44m 13s ago, saying: 'and, i don't need channels with +R'. |
| 17:04.52 | sgk284 | lol |
| 17:05.00 | SportyGal | ~jpa--- |
| 17:05.01 | sgk284 | jpa- was a meanie |
| 17:05.02 | SportyGal | :) |
| 17:05.04 | sgk284 | lol |
| 17:05.06 | SportyGal | ~jpa--- |
| 17:05.11 | TheRedBaron | "now go away or I will taunt you a second time" |
| 17:05.16 | SportyGal | ~jpa--- |
| 17:05.23 | Noodle-sensei | you english knnnnniggits |
| 17:05.46 | TheRedBaron | You must chop down the mightest tree in the forest with.... A Herring!!! |
| 17:05.57 | t-s | Noodle-sensei: Do you know whether it's possible to delete stats for an old callsign? |
| 17:06.06 | Noodle-sensei | t-s: yes is is |
| 17:06.07 | sgk284 | ~karma jpa- |
| 17:06.07 | ibot | jpa- has karma of -7 |
| 17:06.10 | Noodle-sensei | it* |
| 17:06.12 | sgk284 | lol |
| 17:06.14 | sgk284 | ~karma jpa |
| 17:06.14 | ibot | jpa has neutral karma |
| 17:06.15 | SportyGal | ~jpa--- |
| 17:06.20 | sgk284 | ~karma jpa- |
| 17:06.20 | ibot | jpa- has karma of -8 |
| 17:06.25 | sgk284 | ~jpa--- |
| 17:06.26 | t-s | Noodle-sensei: Well, please tell me how |
| 17:06.42 | Noodle-sensei | you can't do it, it has to be done manually in the mysql database |
| 17:07.01 | SportyGal | ~jpa--- |
| 17:07.19 | bryjen | i don't understand why Sporty has such lag problems on my server :( |
| 17:07.26 | Noodle-sensei | SportyGal: what did jpa- do to merit such ill treatment? |
| 17:07.50 | t-s | Noodle-sensei: Who is able to do it? I want http://my.bzflag.org/playerinfo.php?callsign=t-s to be deleted |
| 17:08.06 | SportyGal | Noodleman: the question is what DIDN'T he do |
| 17:08.11 | SportyGal | hrm |
| 17:08.33 | SportyGal | Noodle-sensei: the question is what did he do to NOT merit such treatment |
| 17:09.30 | sgk284 | ~sportygal++ |
| 17:09.44 | Noodle-sensei | well, what didn't he do? :-) |
| 17:09.55 | sgk284 | he didnt be nice |
| 17:10.05 | SportyGal | he wasn't nice, he wasn't pleasant, he wasn't helpful |
| 17:10.10 | Noodle-sensei | ok |
| 17:10.12 | SportyGal | ~sgk284++ |
| 17:10.14 | ep | I'm downloading the source, that i'd give it a go, what the hell. |
| 17:10.28 | ep | *thought i'd give it a go |
| 17:12.01 | TheRedBaron | t-s, why would you want to erase such a nice performance record? |
| 17:12.43 | t-s | TheRedBaron: because I want decided to use another callsign and keep others from using my old one |
| 17:13.05 | Noodle-sensei | there's no way you're going to stop people from using your old one |
| 17:13.09 | t-s | TheRedBaron: so they can't say it's their stats |
| 17:13.09 | TheRedBaron | register your callsign |
| 17:13.27 | TheRedBaron | so they have to use the password... |
| 17:14.01 | t-s | I don't want to bloat database |
| 17:14.17 | ep | is it kosher to have more than one callsign registered? |
| 17:14.31 | Noodle-sensei | ep: sure, afaik |
| 17:14.39 | t-s | Tim told me it's allowed |
| 17:15.00 | *** join/#bzflag mother (~45f06abf@rw08.de) |
| 17:15.12 | Noodle-sensei | so, nobody will care if you bloat the database |
| 17:15.25 | TheRedBaron | certianly not Jeff :) |
| 17:15.31 | Noodle-sensei | hehe |
| 17:15.34 | ep | how high on the geek-meter i'm I going to have to venture in order to build 2.0? |
| 17:15.54 | Noodle-sensei | ep: just high enough to type ./configure, then make |
| 17:16.11 | ep | hey, i can make it that high! |
| 17:16.23 | t-s | SportyGal: Was that comment about me? |
| 17:17.35 | t-s | Noodle-sensei: OK, then I'll block that callsign via registering permanently |
| 17:18.07 | *** join/#bzflag Birdie (~birdie@d54C34D0B.access.telenet.be) |
| 17:19.23 | brlcad | TimRiker: yes, I've had several exchanges with fouts |
| 17:20.42 | Nidhoggr | I emailed the current maintainer of xtank yesterday for compiling help on osx, and found he isn't even using xmkmf, etc. |
| 17:20.46 | Nidhoggr | was disappointed. |
| 17:21.06 | Nidhoggr | brb. |
| 17:21.31 | *** join/#bzflag mother (~45f06abf@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 17:21.38 | brlcad | sgk284: it's meta-# so either esc,# or alt-# work too |
| 17:22.34 | ep | geez sourceforge is slow |
| 17:22.35 | *** join/#bzflag |zongo| (~zongo@80-218-159-77.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 17:22.38 | brlcad | TheRedBaron: xchat is definitely better than cgi:irc, and irssi better than both those combined ;) |
| 17:22.45 | sgk284 | its very emacs-centirc |
| 17:22.53 | brlcad | ~ep++ |
| 17:22.58 | TheRedBaron | brlcad: do i sense a hint here? :) |
| 17:23.35 | TimRiker | brlcad: cool. has he looked at BZFlag recently? world domination baby, get him to do some bzflag development. ;-) |
| 17:24.04 | mother | trb |
| 17:24.22 | sgk284 | chris fouts, is he special? |
| 17:24.54 | *** join/#bzflag JeffM2501 (~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 17:24.58 | TheRedBaron | mother: yes? |
| 17:25.16 | mother | call me at home before you leave the ofc plz |
| 17:25.30 | TheRedBaron | mother: ok |
| 17:25.37 | brlcad | ep: sf's been slow for about a week now |
| 17:25.51 | brlcad | sgk284: everyone's special |
| 17:26.11 | sgk284 | lol |
| 17:26.13 | mother | haha |
| 17:26.18 | sgk284 | well i'm gonna go grab a bite |
| 17:26.22 | bryjen | mother(); ? |
| 17:26.38 | ep | whats for lunch, mother? |
| 17:26.42 | TheRedBaron | ~slap brlcad |
| 17:26.44 | ibot | ACTION slaps brlcad, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 17:26.51 | brlcad | TimRiker: heh, no he hasn't but I'll mention it =) |
| 17:27.05 | brlcad | bryjen: :) |
| 17:27.29 | mother | you guys are 'looser' than usual |
| 17:28.18 | mother | is brlcad=learner? |
| 17:28.19 | TheRedBaron | they took their laxative... :) |
| 17:28.30 | bryjen | ~brlcad |
| 17:28.31 | ibot | brlcad is, like, like a learner wrapped in tofu best served chilled |
| 17:29.13 | brlcad | ~BRL-CAD |
| 17:29.14 | ibot | brl-cad is, like, a powerful constructive solid geometry solid modeling system that includes an interactive geometry editor, ray tracing support for rendering and geometric analysis, network distributed framebuffer support, image and signal-processing tools. |
| 17:29.32 | brlcad | ~bryjen |
| 17:29.33 | ibot | somebody said bryjen was the owner of the KY,US server, or the master of the single-character commit |
| 17:29.42 | TheRedBaron | now i'm curious. |
| 17:30.17 | TheRedBaron | ~TheRedBaron |
| 17:31.13 | TheRedBaron | you prejudiced ibot? :P |
| 17:33.11 | blast007 | ~blast007 |
| 17:33.12 | ibot | it has been said that blast007 is insane |
| 17:33.12 | brlcad | ~TheRedBaron is a bzincarnation of Manfred von Richthofen's supreme fighting abilities, only this time in a tank. Not to be confused with the proliferation of other Barons via mother.. |
| 17:33.13 | ibot | okay, brlcad |
| 17:33.20 | blast007 | :) |
| 17:33.53 | TheRedBaron | oh? |
| 17:33.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bryjen * 10bzflag/man/bzfs.6s: missing '.' |
| 17:33.59 | bryjen | ta-da! |
| 17:34.03 | mother | what is the feeling here about mirc, instead of xchat |
| 17:34.04 | brlcad | hehe |
| 17:34.31 | bryjen | both better than irc-via-webpage |
| 17:34.37 | mother | :P |
| 17:34.52 | mother | i got that drift a long time ago |
| 17:34.52 | brlcad | pretty much |
| 17:34.54 | Nidhoggr | I have a stupid question... does a curl compile require ssl to work with bzfs/global verification? |
| 17:35.17 | blast007 | Nidhoggr: doesn't need SSL yet, AFAIK |
| 17:35.45 | blast007 | the curl.dll that comes with bzflag doesn't have it |
| 17:35.58 | blast007 | (the Windoze version, that is) |
| 17:37.24 | Nidhoggr | for some reason I'm getting global login rejected on my test server... but works fine on secretplace. |
| 17:37.39 | blast007 | hmm |
| 17:38.01 | ruskie | hmmm so when will viper switch to bzflag2? |
| 17:38.12 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 17:38.14 | Nidhoggr | I figured it out. |
| 17:38.15 | blast007 | ruskie: when he does :) |
| 17:38.37 | TheRedBaron | Nidhoggr: you're off pitch... |
| 17:38.38 | ruskie | there is a viper server running but nobody playing... :( |
| 17:39.00 | Nidhoggr | TheRedBaron: whining off pitch makes people listen more readily. |
| 17:39.27 | TheRedBaron | Nidhoggr: no, it makes them aware of the noise more rapidly. :) |
| 17:39.38 | Nidhoggr | sorta the same. :) |
| 17:42.13 | TheRedBaron | Nidhoggr: close enough only counts with horseshoes, handgrenades, and slow dancing :) |
| 17:42.30 | Nidhoggr | and A-bombs. |
| 17:42.38 | brlcad | simple question I'm having trouble figuring out.. how might I be able to get a freebsd terminal session to realize it's new dimensions after a resize? |
| 17:42.50 | Nidhoggr | reset? |
| 17:43.26 | ep | I guess configure was a success, it says: no curses, no SDL, licburl disabled, no bzadmin or bzflag client libraries. Do I need any of these things? |
| 17:43.43 | Nidhoggr | if you just want bzfs, then you are golden. |
| 17:43.50 | ep | cool |
| 17:44.05 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: doesn't do it |
| 17:44.26 | brlcad | or at least doesn't do it all the way |
| 17:44.32 | Nidhoggr | how about stty sane? |
| 17:44.39 | blast007 | ep: are you wanting to play the game? or just run a server? |
| 17:45.12 | JeffM2501 | hey Grumbler when you made that bzedit thingy, what did you build with? |
| 17:45.19 | ep | just play the game |
| 17:45.25 | JeffM2501 | and everyone thinks your that david trobridge bot :) |
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| 17:45.48 | blast007 | k, i'd suggest getting the SDL and libcurl development libraries |
| 17:46.00 | gina | 11~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~11~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~ |
| 17:46.06 | Nidhoggr | ep, you need all those things to play the game, so it won't work. |
| 17:46.07 | ep | ok |
| 17:46.18 | blast007 | think curses is only used for bzadmin |
| 17:46.18 | JeffM2501 | thanks gina that's just what I needed this AM |
| 17:46.22 | gina | +-----1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~1~ |
| 17:46.26 | gina | 1~ |
| 17:46.27 | gina | 1~keyboard |
| 17:46.30 | gina | 1~ |
| 17:46.33 | gina | 1~damn |
| 17:46.33 | gina | 1~ |
| 17:46.33 | gina | 1~ |
| 17:46.36 | gina | 1~ |
| 17:46.36 | JeffM2501 | somone has a cat on the keyboard |
| 17:47.01 | blast007 | it was chasing the mouse |
| 17:47.04 | blast007 | ;) |
| 17:47.22 | ep | ok, I should be able to download mandrake packages for most of those things |
| 17:47.28 | brlcad | heh, poor gina |
| 17:47.34 | brlcad | JeffM2501: got it |
| 17:47.43 | brlcad | er, not "it" .. but got the reply |
| 17:47.53 | JeffM2501 | is it a good reply? |
| 17:48.03 | brlcad | half half |
| 17:48.11 | Birdie | hi gina, my belgium friend |
| 17:48.12 | JeffM2501 | could I posibly see it? |
| 17:48.22 | brlcad | Birdie: she left |
| 17:48.28 | Birdie | lol |
| 17:48.30 | Birdie | ops |
| 17:48.43 | Birdie | i'm sry |
| 17:48.51 | brlcad | JeffM2501: see what? the code or the e-mail? |
| 17:48.57 | Nidhoggr | brlcad: did stty sane fix? |
| 17:49.01 | JeffM2501 | what ever ya got :) |
| 17:49.05 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: no :( |
| 17:49.17 | Nidhoggr | some old terminals are bad about resizing. |
| 17:49.24 | brlcad | JeffM2501: i asked about the code and about the sounds |
| 17:49.49 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: this is an ssh session through gnome terminal |
| 17:50.07 | Nidhoggr | what is the term type on the far end? |
| 17:50.29 | brlcad | no problems when I ssh to a linux box, but I've only got default setup on fbsd, so I suspect it's something I've not set |
| 17:50.37 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 17:50.48 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: TERM=screen |
| 17:51.10 | Nidhoggr | screen should be resizable. very strange. |
| 17:51.46 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 17:51.50 | brlcad | i feed it the screen resize command (ctrl-a F) which works if it's a new sesssion |
| 17:51.54 | JeffM2501 | did he tell you about the conspiracy? |
| 17:51.58 | JeffM2501 | and now your part of it |
| 17:52.01 | JeffM2501 | and can't tell me |
| 17:52.05 | brlcad | hehe |
| 17:52.08 | JeffM2501 | or 'they' will come and kill you? |
| 17:52.23 | JeffM2501 | since your high up in the guberment |
| 17:52.30 | JeffM2501 | your a mole arn't you? |
| 17:52.47 | TheRedBaron | noticed he's stopped answering your questions... |
| 17:52.50 | brlcad | kill me? .. i'd be more worried about unexpected guest on your end ;) |
| 17:53.13 | JeffM2501 | but, my shotgun is in the shop |
| 17:53.53 | brlcad | it actually sounded like he took em from bzflag |
| 17:53.58 | brlcad | "I'm not really sure. I think a few of them came from the dog/flight sounds |
| 17:54.01 | brlcad | which Chris Schoeneman worked on." |
| 17:54.13 | JeffM2501 | ahhh |
| 17:54.22 | JeffM2501 | where "few" == "all" |
| 17:54.34 | brlcad | so they were just "free for use" sounds by that point |
| 17:54.46 | JeffM2501 | that's what I realy figured |
| 17:54.55 | JeffM2501 | some common pd sounds then |
| 17:55.24 | brlcad | at least crs thinks he could claim copyright |
| 17:55.34 | brlcad | so that would have transferred to tim |
| 17:55.36 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 17:55.45 | JeffM2501 | so tim can sue the BZ guy? |
| 17:55.54 | JeffM2501 | or just SGI? :) |
| 17:56.08 | JeffM2501 | was he amicable to geting code? |
| 17:56.13 | brlcad | now if it really was for dogfight, then bz's use would be in question :) |
| 17:56.20 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 17:56.24 | JeffM2501 | what is dogfight? |
| 17:56.25 | brlcad | er bzflags |
| 17:56.29 | JeffM2501 | and oder thing? |
| 17:56.46 | brlcad | bz guy is "safe" because he's never released anything -- only sgi has |
| 17:56.53 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 17:57.15 | brlcad | dogfight was another old classic sgi game |
| 17:57.26 | brlcad | a flight sim basically where you dogfight |
| 17:57.33 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 17:57.40 | brlcad | that one could have taken off too.. pretty cool |
| 17:57.55 | brlcad | anyways, he replied: |
| 17:57.57 | JeffM2501 | probably some guy back in 1985 made these sounds as a joke, and dosn't know how far they have spread :) |
| 17:58.12 | brlcad | "I took a look at the source last night for the first time in probably 10 |
| 17:58.13 | brlcad | years. Much to my surprise, there are SGI copyright notices in it. |
| 17:58.25 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 17:58.27 | JeffM2501 | well poopy |
| 17:58.51 | brlcad | so now he's checking with SGI on the legal ramifications |
| 17:59.00 | JeffM2501 | well that's at least something |
| 17:59.17 | JeffM2501 | an SGI emulator dosn't exist does it? |
| 17:59.25 | brlcad | he suspects he can since it went out on dev cds and because he's the author, but he's checking on it |
| 17:59.38 | JeffM2501 | well hopefully |
| 18:00.02 | JeffM2501 | so for now the only thing would be to see if you maybe had it on one of those thoustands of CDs |
| 18:00.03 | brlcad | " I don't expect it to be a problem getting it released, but it does mean |
| 18:00.04 | brlcad | jumping through some annoying hoops." |
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| 18:01.06 | blast007 | sigh... g++: Internal error: Terminated (program cc1plus) |
| 18:01.13 | brlcad | i'll see if I can search one of the dev toolkit cd's again later.. a real pita though .. sgi's weren't the most cd-friendly beasts |
| 18:01.25 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:01.33 | Nidhoggr | brlcad, you interested in maybe helping get xtank to compile on osx? :) |
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| 18:02.20 | JeffM2501 | Nidhoggr, can that even happen? isn't it tied to X displays? |
| 18:02.55 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, would they have done that for bzflag too? |
| 18:03.00 | Nidhoggr | yes, but there is X11 and X11 SDK |
| 18:03.01 | JeffM2501 | since it was on some of the old stuff |
| 18:03.09 | JeffM2501 | Nidhoggr, ahh |
| 18:03.19 | JeffM2501 | how hard is the X11 to isntall on the OS X? |
| 18:03.22 | brlcad | TimRiker: he wasn't sure if he implicitly gave/assigned the code to them or if they just slapped it on because it was going on the disc |
| 18:05.16 | Nidhoggr | JeffM2501: it's just a simple installer. |
| 18:05.41 | Nidhoggr | on apple's site. |
| 18:06.01 | Nidhoggr | cool :) |
| 18:06.24 | Nidhoggr | the guy said he didn't use xmkmf and to just do "make" and work out the bugs from there. |
| 18:06.31 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 18:06.45 | Nidhoggr | errrr am |
| 18:06.46 | Nidhoggr | an |
| 18:06.56 | JeffM2501 | yeah I'm looking at enclosures now |
| 18:07.01 | bryjen | ~Nidhoggr |
| 18:07.02 | ibot | i heard nidhoggr is a master of Typo Fu |
| 18:07.53 | creeperz | mmm |
| 18:07.54 | creeperz | typo fu |
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| 18:10.53 | brlcad | Nidhoggr: xtank.. heh perhaps |
| 18:11.21 | Nidhoggr | I used to love xtank. it was how I found bz. |
| 18:11.26 | brlcad | JeffM2501: X11's already installed in the /Application/Utilities folder |
| 18:11.42 | brlcad | the X11 dev headers are not though.. they are on the dev cd |
| 18:13.05 | Nidhoggr | I never got to play the frizbee game on xtank. |
| 18:13.09 | brlcad | or http://bzflag.bz/tmp/X11SDK.pkg.tar.gz for convenience |
| 18:13.31 | brlcad | i'm not sure I played xtank |
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| 18:13.35 | brlcad | screenie? |
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| 18:13.46 | Nidhoggr | I can't find any screenshots. |
| 18:13.54 | Nidhoggr | it's been so long. 1993. |
| 18:14.14 | JeffM2501 | it's in debian |
| 18:14.23 | Nidhoggr | that's right... it is. |
| 18:14.29 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 18:14.31 | Nidhoggr | I wonder.... |
| 18:14.34 | brlcad | ooh, install and i'll remote x it :) |
| 18:14.40 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:15.27 | Nidhoggr | hrm.heh |
| 18:16.55 | Nidhoggr | source is in /root on m.b.o |
| 18:17.06 | Nidhoggr | just tried a "make". |
| 18:17.07 | Nidhoggr | no go. |
| 18:17.42 | Nidhoggr | oh.. there is a debian readme |
| 18:19.22 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's in apt |
| 18:19.54 | |zongo| | ~bzflist |
| 18:20.22 | JeffM2501 | still a number of servers on 1.10 |
| 18:20.37 | bryjen | that's playercount |
| 18:20.45 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 18:20.54 | JeffM2501 | but if it's got 100 players, it still has a number of servers :) |
| 18:21.04 | JeffM2501 | unless tehre is ONE fat daddy server :) |
| 18:21.32 | bryjen | what 4-5 with ~20 and 90something empties? |
| 18:21.50 | JeffM2501 | probably |
| 18:21.55 | JeffM2501 | how many are tehrey? |
| 18:22.03 | JeffM2501 | pain killers kicking in. |
| 18:22.04 | bryjen | well, or 40some, as it's usually 2players/server |
| 18:22.13 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:22.17 | JeffM2501 | that's booring. |
| 18:22.31 | Nidhoggr | I tried to get it with apt, but couldn't. |
| 18:22.48 | bryjen | it averages out to that, but it's usually _very_ unbalanced like what i just said |
| 18:23.19 | Nidhoggr | I'm shutting down secretplace 1.10 on feb 1. |
| 18:23.51 | bryjen | any remaining issues/peeves with 2.0 ? |
| 18:23.59 | bryjen | Nidhoggr: |
| 18:24.59 | Nidhoggr | ummm. still waiting for the filter.txt enhancements that sgk284 is working on. |
| 18:25.19 | Nidhoggr | and some people were still having lag/ping issues, but not as bad. |
| 18:25.29 | bryjen | whitelisting by callsign, you mean? |
| 18:25.47 | Nidhoggr | yeah... and a config file that allows whitelisting by IP/netmask |
| 18:26.09 | Nidhoggr | which already exists but doesn't work. :) |
| 18:31.53 | ep | I've installed all SDL packages (via Mandrake'a urpmi), however configure still isn't finding the SDL framework. Maybe its the wrong SDL version? |
| 18:32.34 | brlcad | ep: the framework check is for an OS X framework |
| 18:32.52 | brlcad | ep: it'll be looking for sdl-config for you |
| 18:33.18 | ep | looks like it didn't find it |
| 18:35.04 | ep | what is SDL, and how might I check myself? |
| 18:35.47 | bryjen | sdl-config --version |
| 18:37.09 | ep | I might be in over my head. "sdl-config" is a bash command? |
| 18:37.55 | ep | somebody was pulling my leg about the geek-meter earlier :-) |
| 18:42.21 | bryjen | yes, type that at a bash prompt and it should confirm what version of sdl you have |
| 18:45.02 | ep | bash: sdl-config: command not found, I'll double check to see if I can install any additional SDL packages |
| 18:45.14 | Grumbler | JeffM2501, i built it with the .Net vc stuff |
| 18:46.25 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 18:46.34 | JeffM2501 | cus the sln isn't set up to include all the stuff |
| 18:46.51 | bryjen | you may need the development versions of the packages (assuming Mandrake does things that way) |
| 18:47.53 | ep | Mandrake does -devlop packages but i'm not finding them on SDL for some reason. I'm looking into it via google etc. |
| 18:49.04 | Grumbler | JeffM2501, there was an issue with 1.6.3 ....not all the dlls getting included....but i blew that off since, b the time i got around to working on the next couple issues with it, the map format was changing significantly, and i decied it wasnt worth the effort to do a "real" release of it |
| 18:49.22 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 18:49.23 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 18:49.30 | JeffM2501 | was just curious |
| 18:49.39 | JeffM2501 | everyone thinks your purple_cow tho |
| 18:49.40 | Grumbler | anytime |
| 18:49.48 | Grumbler | fear |
| 18:50.12 | Grumbler | wonder how that happened |
| 18:50.31 | Grumbler | i dont do enough to get to that level of confusion |
| 18:51.01 | JeffM2501 | they have some wackass version of history |
| 18:51.05 | JeffM2501 | it's funny |
| 18:51.08 | JeffM2501 | you should read it |
| 18:53.38 | blast007 | man, I'm gonna have a lot to read on bzbb...haven't been there in like 2 weeks ;) |
| 18:54.42 | JeffM2501 | most of it's crap |
| 18:54.51 | JeffM2501 | someone is making a chair |
| 18:54.57 | JeffM2501 | the map making kids are lazy |
| 18:55.06 | JeffM2501 | and scorch still dosn't think before he types. |
| 18:55.13 | JeffM2501 | so same ol same ol :) |
| 18:56.02 | JeffM2501 | oh and someone is going to "reconfigure" bzedit to have 2.0 features, if they can just find a free compiler for "XP windows" |
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| 18:57.09 | Grumbler | all the power to them.....i wish them well |
| 18:57.14 | JeffM2501 | yup |
| 18:57.22 | sgk284 | hi |
| 18:57.25 | JeffM2501 | hi |
| 18:58.48 | Grumbler | .....what was the name of that movie with the two molson drinking dudes from canada....... |
| 18:58.51 | JeffM2501 | but then the advil kicked in |
| 18:58.57 | JeffM2501 | Strange Brew |
| 18:59.19 | JeffM2501 | Bob and Doug McKensie |
| 18:59.42 | JeffM2501 | Take off, ehh... |
| 18:59.46 | sgk284 | brlcad ping |
| 19:03.17 | bryjen | ~slap TimRiker in the back of the head |
| 19:03.19 | ibot | ACTION slaps TimRiker in the back of the head, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 19:07.06 | TimRiker | ~bzfrag bryjen |
| 19:07.08 | ibot | ACTION squishes bryjen with a steamroller |
| 19:07.51 | creeperz | mmm |
| 19:07.56 | creeperz | squish |
| 19:08.16 | jacques | TimRiker, bzfs and bzadmin appear to run fine on the nslu2. |
| 19:10.25 | brlcad | sgk284: pong |
| 19:10.54 | Grumbler | out, advantage brlcad |
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| 19:11.06 | brlcad | sgk284: unpong.. /msg me :) I'll be back in a bit |
| 19:19.02 | sgk284 | k |
| 19:26.37 | TimRiker | jacques: sweet |
| 19:27.01 | Grumbler | l |
| 19:33.40 | Noodle-sensei | i'm hungry |
| 19:33.54 | Noodle-sensei | but lunch time is at 12:00 |
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| 19:34.41 | Grumbler | Noodle-sensei, that will teach ya.....always have some peanut M&Ms in the desk. |
| 19:35.03 | Noodle-sensei | i could just go raid the snack cabinet |
| 19:35.34 | Noodle-sensei | but whining is more fun :-) |
| 19:36.19 | Grumbler | just dont snack the raid cabinet |
| 19:37.38 | Noodle-sensei | cheez-it twisters, score! |
| 19:46.39 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 19:47.09 | jpa- | :) |
| 19:47.17 | Nidhoggr | I had a quizno's classic italian sub on white bread with double meat for lunch. also, a huge side of banana peppers. |
| 19:48.03 | Nidhoggr | I like ordering the small sub but getting double meat. I don't like to be breaded to death. |
| 19:50.41 | JeffM2501 | bread is not death.. bread is LIFE! |
| 19:50.56 | JeffM2501 | in soviet russia, the death breads YOU! |
| 19:51.27 | Nidhoggr | I don't mind some bread. I just don't like a sandwich that is 2 huge pieces of bread and a thin slice of meat. |
| 19:51.38 | JeffM2501 | that is why quisnos sucks :) |
| 19:51.54 | Nidhoggr | quiznos here is normally good about it. |
| 19:52.09 | Nidhoggr | I do that at every sub place, though. double meat on small sandwich. |
| 19:52.25 | Nidhoggr | nearest togos is about 12 miles away. :) |
| 19:52.33 | Nidhoggr | quiznos is everywhere. |
| 19:53.29 | Nidhoggr | I'm getting a bunch of undeliverable notifications on m.b.o for an email address where someone wanted notifications. |
| 19:53.31 | JeffM2501 | just cus they are everywhere dons't make them good |
| 19:53.38 | JeffM2501 | it's the mcdonalds law |
| 19:53.41 | Grumbler | turkey sandwhich/toasted/swiss/hot peoppers/cookie/chips $7.00 |
| 19:53.54 | JeffM2501 | Nidhoggr, ban em |
| 19:54.16 | Nidhoggr | his email probably changed. |
| 19:54.24 | Grumbler | ban'em |
| 19:54.24 | JeffM2501 | a banable offense |
| 19:54.31 | Nidhoggr | true. |
| 19:54.36 | Grumbler | ban them all |
| 19:54.44 | Nidhoggr | I've been getting a bunch of them. |
| 19:54.46 | Grumbler | its quieter that way |
| 19:55.25 | Nidhoggr | it doesn't give his username. |
| 19:55.27 | Nidhoggr | just his email. |
| 19:55.41 | JeffM2501 | there should be a way to search the sql |
| 19:55.45 | JeffM2501 | get his user ID |
| 19:55.51 | JeffM2501 | then from that I can get his profile |
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| 20:03.22 | bryjen | wow 1106 registered users |
| 20:03.58 | jpa- | :S |
| 20:04.09 | Nidhoggr | I sorted by email in userlist then arrowed over them until I found it. |
| 20:04.57 | creeperz | best sub eva!: |
| 20:05.10 | creeperz | italian herb and cheese bread |
| 20:05.19 | creeperz | then yu get yer bacon |
| 20:05.34 | creeperz | crap |
| 20:05.43 | creeperz | its been so long i forgot how i made my sub :-( |
| 20:05.49 | Nidhoggr | we have this place here called Dilly's. they make their own fresh bread and only use boar's head meats. |
| 20:05.54 | Nidhoggr | so good. |
| 20:06.04 | creeperz | boar's head... |
| 20:06.12 | creeperz | mmmm |
| 20:06.22 | jpa- | creeperz :) |
| 20:06.22 | creeperz | get a free sub |
| 20:06.38 | creeperz | i know alot of people that work at food places |
| 20:06.55 | creeperz | i get almost all the food i want for free just as long as the manager isnt around and the camera are off |
| 20:07.06 | creeperz | or they give me like 500 subway stamps >< |
| 20:07.10 | creeperz | which is good too |
| 20:07.24 | bryjen | larceny! |
| 20:07.29 | creeperz | heh |
| 20:07.51 | creeperz | you should see the pizza though ^_^ |
| 20:08.02 | creeperz | i know peopel that work at Godfather's and Domino's |
| 20:08.09 | creeperz | mmmn3ss |
| 20:08.11 | sgk284 | boar's head? |
| 20:08.33 | bryjen | the pizza is at home in the fridge. I saw it the other night. |
| 20:09.27 | creeperz | mechwarrior 3 sounds tasty about now! |
| 20:09.35 | creeperz | should indulge myself in that |
| 20:09.40 | creeperz | then go to subway later |
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| 20:09.51 | jpa- | hello LP (assuming you are LP) |
| 20:10.09 | Nidhoggr | boar's head meats are some of the best sandwich meats available. |
| 20:10.16 | Nidhoggr | very high quality and flavor |
| 20:10.25 | LPMaN | lol jpa- :D |
| 20:10.36 | LPMaN | hello |
| 20:10.36 | LPMaN | :D |
| 20:11.10 | creeperz | Nidhoggr: UPS me one |
| 20:11.14 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 20:11.28 | LPMaN | Crko |
| 20:11.29 | LPMaN | ! |
| 20:11.50 | creeperz | my dad ordered chinese from a place in Longview, Washington (from South Dakota) and had them UPS it to him |
| 20:12.01 | creeperz | i think it was longview |
| 20:12.18 | Grumbler | we have a french fry flag?????? http://bzflag.org/wiki/FlagList |
| 20:12.50 | creeperz | there should be a flag like steamroller, but you cant fire |
| 20:13.00 | creeperz | and the fire button causes you to charge |
| 20:13.14 | creeperz | that would be l33t |
| 20:13.27 | creeperz | we could call it the BoAr flag :-) |
| 20:13.41 | creeperz | and then we could make sammwiches |
| 20:14.16 | *** part/#bzflag |zongo| (~zongo@80-218-159-77.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 20:16.07 | Nidhoggr | those are all suggested flags, G. not implemented. |
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| 20:17.27 | Grumbler | the status says "Yes" |
| 20:17.34 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 20:17.41 | bryjen | that's approved by TimRiker |
| 20:20.03 | Nidhoggr | I want a holy smoke flag. you get flag and a cloud of smoke surrounds you. whenever someone on another team touches it, they blow up. |
| 20:20.33 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 20:21.07 | Grumbler | ....a better name for that would be ........The Day after Chili and Beer Flag |
| 20:21.10 | bryjen | from the Book Of Armaments? |
| 20:21.49 | creeperz | the INflate(IN) flag would be neat ^_^ |
| 20:21.52 | creeperz | but was rejected |
| 20:21.53 | Nidhoggr | the graphic could be like pigpen from the Peanuts |
| 20:22.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03sgk284 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: ban and hostban on /reload |
| 20:22.51 | Nidhoggr | w00 |
| 20:22.55 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 20:23.18 | Nidhoggr | we are turning off 1.10 on monday. will we have a way to whitelist by then? |
| 20:23.29 | Nidhoggr | actually tuesday |
| 20:23.33 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 20:23.36 | sgk284 | yea by monday it should definitly be done |
| 20:23.38 | creeperz | 1.10 is goin bye-bye? |
| 20:23.44 | Grumbler | i still prefer the godzilla flag...... |
| 20:23.47 | Nidhoggr | I can give you a server to dev/test on. :) |
| 20:23.51 | Nidhoggr | secretplace, creeperz |
| 20:23.52 | sgk284 | k:) |
| 20:24.06 | Nidhoggr | it's gentoo. |
| 20:24.10 | Nidhoggr | but it should work out well. |
| 20:24.14 | Nidhoggr | it's nice and quick. |
| 20:24.15 | sgk284 | okay |
| 20:24.20 | Nidhoggr | give me a fewq. |
| 20:24.21 | Nidhoggr | few |
| 20:24.26 | sgk284 | sure |
| 20:24.28 | sgk284 | no rush |
| 20:24.38 | sgk284 | i wont be able to touch until later tonight at the earliest:) |
| 20:25.08 | Nidhoggr | 'sokay |
| 20:32.16 | TimRiker | note, flags will likely still mean breaking net so unless you want to take that into account completely when implementing a new flag, flags should not be done till 2.1 |
| 20:33.52 | purple_cow | TimRiker: new flags can be added without devastating breakage |
| 20:34.14 | purple_cow | TimRiker: clients without that flag won't connect, but if the flag is turned off it'll work just fine |
| 20:35.00 | Nidhoggr | oh, cool. |
| 21:02.11 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/BUGS: fix (definitely ?) -fb |
| 21:02.13 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: fix (definitely ?) -fb |
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| 21:06.10 | TimRiker | purple_cow: understood. my point is that anyone planning to do a new flag needs to test that completely and expect to have to explain it to admins and players someplace, etc. |
| 21:09.29 | TimRiker | so the easier route is to wait for 2.1 =/ |
| 21:10.56 | purple_cow | TimRiker: well, yeah, but if they're willing to test, there's no technical reason why not |
| 21:11.40 | purple_cow | new flags don't technically break protocol, and i don't think it's unreasonable to ask people to upgrade if they want to use certain servers |
| 21:16.11 | Nidhoggr | ~Tupone++ |
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| 21:17.02 | Tupone | ? I just fix a little bug, not applicable to secretplace, unless you don't put -fb |
| 21:17.17 | Nidhoggr | we have -fb |
| 21:17.22 | Nidhoggr | hrm. |
| 21:17.41 | Nidhoggr | is that related to the bug where I have 214 flags in /flag show and only a dozen or so show up on the map? |
| 21:17.42 | sgk284 | so many flags were introduced with 2.0 i think its okay to wait a bit before some new ones... people are still overwhelmed as it is :) |
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| 21:22.16 | bryjen | Agility, Wings, and a few bad flags. |
| 21:22.37 | sgk284 | is that really it? |
| 21:22.53 | sgk284 | heh i've been getting so many questions about them it seems like more |
| 21:22.53 | bryjen | comparing output from bzfs -help using diff |
| 21:23.11 | sgk284 | okay then i stand corrected |
| 21:23.33 | sgk284 | are there any good flag candidates floating around? |
| 21:26.49 | TimRiker | purple_cow: agreed |
| 21:26.49 | *** join/#bzflag Fish-Face (~chris@cpc1-stkp4-3-0-cust125.mant.cable.ntl.com) |
| 21:27.07 | Fish-Face | Is it normal to get a negative score? |
| 21:27.14 | jacques | oh ya |
| 21:27.23 | Chestal | countdown is still somewhat broken |
| 21:27.41 | Chestal | for a 30 minute-game it started at 6 hours, then corrected itsef later |
| 21:27.53 | sgk284 | Fish-Face, yes |
| 21:27.58 | sgk284 | all the time |
| 21:28.06 | sgk284 | especially if your new to the game |
| 21:28.11 | Fish-Face | Which I am |
| 21:28.16 | Fish-Face | Definitely very bad |
| 21:28.25 | sgk284 | negative score != bad |
| 21:28.32 | sgk284 | just need practice:) |
| 21:28.40 | Fish-Face | Are there any ground-rules for good play, or do you get good simply by playing? |
| 21:28.59 | sgk284 | may want to try reading here: http://shellshock.bzflag.bz |
| 21:29.06 | sgk284 | but more or less, you get better by playing |
| 21:29.21 | Fish-Face | Heh |
| 21:29.36 | sgk284 | the guides there may be of some use |
| 21:30.02 | Fish-Face | Right - cheers :) |
| 21:30.22 | Fish-Face | The big problem I have is that I'm colour deficient... |
| 21:31.02 | sgk284 | how severe? |
| 21:31.17 | Fish-Face | The colours for red and green look identical on the HUD (not on the radar) and purple/blue I can't distinguish in either view :D |
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| 21:31.39 | bryjen | play as a rogue ;) |
| 21:31.42 | Morpheus` | Crko |
| 21:31.50 | sgk284 | Fish-Face, yea just play as rogue and you can kill anyone |
| 21:32.00 | Fish-Face | Ah, good plan |
| 21:32.08 | sgk284 | a really good server that i help admin is secretplace.us, usually at the top of the list |
| 21:32.11 | Fish-Face | I guess on that note I should peruse the keybindings :) |
| 21:32.23 | bryjen | team games are fun, when you can get a good team going |
| 21:32.31 | sgk284 | Fish-Face, also, if you can give me 5 colors that you can distinguish, i'll make up custom textures for you |
| 21:32.38 | Fish-Face | Not when you get shot by people you thought were friendly, bryjen! |
| 21:33.15 | Fish-Face | sgk284, not necessary, I can handle The GIMP - I'll DImyself, if I get the time |
| 21:33.20 | sgk284 | okay |
| 21:33.22 | Fish-Face | Thanks for offering, though |
| 21:33.25 | sgk284 | best of luck |
| 21:33.26 | sgk284 | sure |
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| 21:35.49 | Fish-Face | This guide is exactly what I'm looking for - thanks! |
| 21:35.58 | sgk284 | sure |
| 21:36.05 | Fish-Face | Although I'm ashamed I didn't find it with google... |
| 21:36.18 | sgk284 | hehe dont worry about it |
| 21:36.23 | sgk284 | its also in the channel topic |
| 21:36.28 | Fish-Face | *ouch* |
| 21:36.31 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 21:36.34 | Fish-Face | Thanks again, byee! |
| 21:36.36 | sgk284 | cya |
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| 21:48.21 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, have you thought about making a domain, help.bzflag.org ,or maybe my.bzflag.org/help that maybe had just the help parts of the wiki and the man pages as top level links? |
| 21:49.35 | sgk284 | i'm not sure if i said this earlier, but the irc link on http://bzflag.org/wiki/GettingHelp is broken |
| 21:49.46 | sgk284 | err wait thats in the wiki... can anyone edit it? |
| 21:50.13 | sgk284 | with a fish |
| 21:51.41 | sgk284 | its fixed now... |
| 21:51.54 | retro | I hope it's not a big fish. |
| 21:52.20 | Tupone | cannot be if is handling it by himself |
| 21:52.53 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 21:53.47 | Nidhoggr | am I the only person having the flag bug where only a fraction of the flags actually show on the map? |
| 21:54.00 | sgk284 | lol |
| 21:54.15 | Tupone | You're using -fb, no? |
| 21:54.21 | Nidhoggr | ~lart sgk284 |
| 21:54.22 | Nidhoggr | yes |
| 21:54.32 | Tupone | so, not my fault (I hope) |
| 21:57.09 | Tupone | The actual code, if flags cannot spawn in a chosen place, it is retired |
| 21:58.47 | Nidhoggr | what does /flag show reflect when a flag is retired? |
| 21:59.20 | bryjen | retried = try again, retired = made inactive |
| 21:59.37 | Tupone | I don't thing is tried again, only after a while |
| 21:59.44 | bryjen | right word Tupone ? |
| 21:59.44 | Tupone | but should ask trepan |
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| 22:00.03 | aaronf0 | has anyone noticed that on certain sevrvers you have a tendancy to spawn infornt of bullets? |
| 22:00.19 | aaronf0 | i havent played 2.0 enough to see if its still a problem |
| 22:00.29 | cods | it's just bad luck.. :) |
| 22:01.00 | bryjen | spawning used to be handled in the client (vers 1.7) and took more factors into account (like bullets) |
| 22:01.33 | Nidhoggr | does /flag show say anything when a flag is retired? |
| 22:01.36 | bryjen | now (since 1.10) its done in the server (to prevent a modified client from doing funny things) and the server doesn't know as much |
| 22:01.42 | Nidhoggr | at least I could tell if that was the problem. |
| 22:02.15 | aaronf0 | not bad luck, it happened repeatadly on only certain servers |
| 22:02.30 | aaronf0 | nice to know that its fixed though, it kinda pissed my dad off |
| 22:04.29 | bryjen | i don't think the 2.0 tank spawning is much different from 1.10. the server doesn't take bullets into account |
| 22:06.46 | blast007 | aaronf0: in order for the spawning to become as good as 1.7, we would need to track/calculate bullet positions on the server |
| 22:06.51 | blast007 | that could also be useful in preventing some cheats |
| 22:08.04 | aaronf0 | just have it not spawn near any current bullets |
| 22:08.54 | blast007 | well, yeah |
| 22:09.03 | blast007 | but the server doesn't know where they are :) |
| 22:09.14 | aaronf0 | hace client detect it? |
| 22:09.17 | aaronf0 | *have |
| 22:09.28 | aaronf0 | why was the wings flag added? |
| 22:09.38 | aaronf0 | i tought that would become the biggest cheat? |
| 22:09.55 | blast007 | server side spawns are to help prevent people from picking their own spawn position (cheating) |
| 22:10.29 | jacques | does server track flags? |
| 22:10.38 | aaronf0 | i dont see the point in cheating like that |
| 22:10.40 | blast007 | yeah |
| 22:10.47 | Nidhoggr | hrm. what are the fields in /flag show? specifically the "P" field? |
| 22:10.57 | aaronf0 | no fun to just go around and kill everyone iwht no opposistion |
| 22:11.12 | jacques | but it is fun to ruin everyone else's game |
| 22:11.21 | blast007 | :/ |
| 22:11.31 | Nidhoggr | looks like it's not placing the flags at all. |
| 22:12.09 | Nidhoggr | looks like it is placing 41 out of 214. |
| 22:13.52 | Pimpinella | whats the definition of a normal? |
| 22:14.02 | Tupone | does number of flags change? |
| 22:14.29 | bryjen | Nidhoggr: P is player |
| 22:14.32 | Pimpinella | and does a mesh require normals? |
| 22:14.40 | Nidhoggr | cool |
| 22:14.42 | bryjen | probly only set if someone is carrying that flag |
| 22:14.46 | blast007 | bryjen: gah...beat me to it :/ |
| 22:15.01 | Nidhoggr | tupone... trying to figure that out. |
| 22:15.03 | blast007 | was just looking through FlagInfo.cxx :) |
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| 22:16.54 | Nidhoggr | I have +s 100 and -s 200 set. so min 100 max 200 |
| 22:17.06 | Nidhoggr | and it's only showing 40ish. |
| 22:17.15 | bryjen | S is status... |
| 22:17.47 | bryjen | with 0 being NoExist ... 1 being OnGround |
| 22:18.21 | Nidhoggr | lots of 0 |
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| 22:19.41 | Nidhoggr | it also only shows activity on the first 41. the others are all empty/0 |
| 22:20.26 | blast007 | <flagIndex> p:<player> r:<required> g:<grabs> i:<flagAbbc> s:<status> p:<posX>x<posY>x<posZ> |
| 22:21.43 | Nidhoggr | Tupone: if a flag can't spawn and it is retired, does the server stop trying to add flags for the time being? |
| 22:21.59 | Nidhoggr | or just that 1 flag is retired? |
| 22:22.31 | Tupone | don't seems so |
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| 22:26.42 | bryjen | erg, they both set the same variable options.numExtraFlags, and + or - sets a boolean allFlagsOut. so using them together probly doesn't make sense |
| 22:27.23 | Nidhoggr | hrm |
| 22:27.41 | Nidhoggr | so I'll leave +s out and just use -s 200 and test it. |
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| 22:31.24 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: hmm. might. the "getting help" link is the 2nd thing on the http://BZFlag.org/ and links to the help wiki page: http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp |
| 22:35.48 | blast007 | heh.... |
| 22:35.52 | blast007 | INIT: PANIC: segmentation violation at 0x805d9f0! sleeping for 30 seconds. |
| 22:37.08 | bryjen | Nidhoggr: +s might work better. looks like it sets the flags as "required" where -s just allocates storage for the # of flags specified |
| 22:37.18 | Nidhoggr | yeah.. I said it backwards. |
| 22:37.27 | Nidhoggr | that's what I'm testing on test server. |
| 22:37.35 | Pimpinella | anyone who can tell me the definition of a normal? |
| 22:38.47 | Nidhoggr | it spawns the flags pretty slow. it's up to 60 now. |
| 22:39.53 | bryjen | +s 200 gets me a covered field as soon as i join. -s 200 does not, they may come in slowly afterward |
| 22:40.26 | Nidhoggr | I did +s 200, and it adds them slowly. |
| 22:40.29 | bryjen | using them both together, the last one on the command line should override |
| 22:40.31 | Nidhoggr | I commented out -s |
| 22:41.00 | bryjen | hmm |
| 22:41.42 | Nidhoggr | up to 72 |
| 22:42.22 | Nidhoggr | I wonder what the difference is between our settings/setup |
| 22:43.27 | bryjen | i'm using a fairly bare test setup. they're all there right away with +s |
| 22:45.35 | Nidhoggr | looks fine. |
| 22:46.07 | bryjen | ./bzfs -d -d -i eth0 -password test +s 200 |
| 22:47.55 | creeperz | whats +s? |
| 22:48.25 | Nidhoggr | that works, bryjen |
| 22:48.38 | Nidhoggr | something else in the config is effecting it. |
| 22:49.04 | blast007 | creeperz: +s: always have <num> super flags (default=16) |
| 22:49.13 | creeperz | ohhh |
| 22:49.15 | creeperz | duh |
| 22:49.16 | creeperz | :-) |
| 22:50.20 | Nidhoggr | I have a bunch of +f XX{#} and -f XX |
| 22:51.58 | Nidhoggr | I suppose I could comment out everything and add it in bit by bit and see what causes the failure. |
| 22:54.30 | ep | hi again guys, I got the mdk sdl-devel package installed, mirror wasn't working earlier. |
| 22:56.59 | ep | sdl-config --version now gives me 1.2.7 and sdl-config resides in /usr/bin Howver after configure i'm still getting a "No SDL!" also I'm getting "No curses". Any suggestions? |
| 22:59.44 | bryjen | what's "sdl-config --cflags" say? |
| 23:00.51 | Tupone | ep forget no curses, that is for bzadmin |
| 23:00.52 | ep | -I/usr/include/SDL -D_REENTRANT |
| 23:00.59 | Tupone | rm config.cache |
| 23:01.30 | bryjen | is there a directory /usr/include/SDL ? it should have some .h files in it |
| 23:02.31 | ep | yes there is /usr/include/SDL/*.h |
| 23:04.20 | Tupone | ep: try to remove the config.cache and rerun configure |
| 23:04.23 | bryjen | try rm'ing the file Tupone said, and ./configure again |
| 23:04.24 | ep | ok |
| 23:05.51 | Tupone | :) |
| 23:07.38 | ep | ok this time output is: |
| 23:08.51 | ep | no curses! SDL libcurl enabled no bzadmin client binary! no bzflag client binary! |
| 23:09.49 | bryjen | curses only for bzadmin, not required to play. |
| 23:10.11 | blast007 | hmm...should be able to build the bzflag client binary... |
| 23:10.15 | Tupone | so now, have you installed gl-devel |
| 23:10.19 | blast007 | ah |
| 23:10.32 | Tupone | or Mesa-dev or whatever is called |
| 23:10.49 | ep | i don't know for sure but i bet i need to urpmi that package as well |
| 23:10.53 | blast007 | yeah, think Mandrake doesn't come with that (or at least it didn't used to) |
| 23:11.14 | Tupone | look at /usr/include/GL and see if that file exists, and something is in |
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| 23:12.20 | ep | /usr/include/GL exists as a symlink to some h files |
| 23:12.56 | Tupone | is there a glu.h ? |
| 23:13.00 | ep | what particular file am i looking for Mesa? |
| 23:13.31 | ep | no glu.h but there is an osmesa.h |
| 23:13.42 | brlcad | ~sgk284++ |
| 23:13.43 | Tupone | you need gl.h, glx.h |
| 23:14.02 | Tupone | and glu.h |
| 23:14.19 | Tupone | heya brlcad |
| 23:14.24 | Pimpinella | glu might be a separate package |
| 23:14.30 | ep | ok i've got em except I don't have glu.h |
| 23:14.35 | Pimpinella | it is at least here |
| 23:15.22 | Pimpinella | xlibmesa-gl-dev | libgl-dev, xlibmesa-glu-dev | libglu-d |
| 23:15.22 | Pimpinella | ev |
| 23:15.30 | ep | ah |
| 23:15.37 | Pimpinella | in debian |
| 23:15.49 | Pimpinella | >= sarge |
| 23:15.57 | ep | i'll searh the mandrake repository -- be back in a few |
| 23:16.01 | Tupone | Pimpinella: you get the answer to what a normal is? |
| 23:16.06 | Pimpinella | no |
| 23:16.08 | Pimpinella | :( |
| 23:16.16 | brlcad | ~sgk284++ |
| 23:16.29 | brlcad | oops :) |
| 23:16.43 | Tupone | it is the unitary vector that is exiting from the plane |
| 23:17.03 | Pimpinella | ~x en de unitary |
| 23:17.14 | Tupone | its length is 1 |
| 23:17.40 | Pimpinella | is it computed from vertices? |
| 23:18.05 | Tupone | it is computed using the plane equation parameters |
| 23:18.16 | Pimpinella | grml |
| 23:18.18 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 23:18.44 | Tupone | to compute the equation you can get 3 points |
| 23:19.15 | sgk284 | brlcad, whatd i do? :) |
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| 23:20.01 | brlcad | howdy tupone |
| 23:20.16 | Pimpinella | ~x en de equation |
| 23:20.17 | Tupone | I remember scanline gave me an url to a math book/wiki , but I forgot it |
| 23:20.23 | sgk284 | ~brlcad++ |
| 23:20.26 | sgk284 | ~karma sgk284 |
| 23:20.26 | ibot | sgk284 has karma of 33 |
| 23:20.30 | sgk284 | nice |
| 23:20.48 | brlcad | sgk284: second was a mistake ;) .. first was for ban check on reload ;) |
| 23:20.54 | sgk284 | hehe |
| 23:21.15 | Tupone | http://mathworld.wolfram.com/Plane.html |
| 23:21.25 | Pimpinella | will google, ty tupone, now i have an idea what to search for |
| 23:21.28 | Pimpinella | oh, ty |
| 23:21.38 | Pimpinella | ~tupone++ |
| 23:21.43 | Tupone | :) |
| 23:21.45 | Pimpinella | ;) |
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| 23:27.32 | ep | Ok got the libMesaGLU1-5.0.2-8mdk package installed. Ya'll said I don't really need curses/bzadmin but still I'd like to get this package. Why am i getting 'no curses'. Any ideas? |
| 23:28.09 | sgk284 | about the whole spawning in front of bullets thing... whats wrong with 5 second immunity at spawn? |
| 23:28.20 | sgk284 | server doesnt track bullets, but it knows when the tank spawned |
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| 23:28.55 | sgk284 | ep do you have the curses libs installed? |
| 23:29.38 | ep | i just need to know what to search for something like curses-devel |
| 23:29.49 | ep | ? |
| 23:29.59 | blast007 | there's several curses libraries |
| 23:30.06 | blast007 | think ncurses is one |
| 23:30.06 | sgk284 | http://rpmfind.net//linux/RPM/mandrake/10.1/i586/media/main/ncurses-5.4-1.20040529.2mdk.i586.html |
| 23:30.10 | Nidhoggr | heading home. so far I disabled all flag and filter stuff, and still takes a long time to populate 200 flags. |
| 23:30.10 | sgk284 | that might be it |
| 23:30.13 | Nidhoggr | bbiab. |
| 23:30.13 | Nidhoggr | & |
| 23:30.15 | Tupone | sgk284: had been discussed and rejected |
| 23:30.18 | sgk284 | dont run mandrake so have no idea |
| 23:30.21 | ep | do i need them all |
| 23:30.29 | sgk284 | cya nid |
| 23:30.40 | ep | what would you need on debian |
| 23:30.57 | sgk284 | tupone, okay was there anything in particular that you remember wasnt liked about it? |
| 23:31.26 | Tupone | The reject came from the master, here :) |
| 23:31.37 | sgk284 | ep, probably something like apt-get install ncurses , do and apt-cache search ncurses and work from there |
| 23:31.48 | sgk284 | or you need the devel pakcages |
| 23:31.51 | sgk284 | i think |
| 23:31.57 | blast007 | yeah, devel |
| 23:32.16 | ep | urpmi libncurses5-devel-5.4-1.20040529.2mdk --> Everything already installed |
| 23:32.35 | blast007 | hmm |
| 23:33.06 | ep | well its not that important i guess |
| 23:35.14 | ep | hey I got everything on ./configure this time! |
| 23:35.22 | blast007 | cool |
| 23:35.31 | blast007 | even bzadmin? |
| 23:35.33 | ep | yes |
| 23:35.38 | blast007 | neato :) |
| 23:35.54 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 23:36.18 | creeperz | what is a gameport? |
| 23:36.22 | ep | how do you make a * comment in x-chat? |
| 23:36.25 | blast007 | creeperz: joystick port |
| 23:36.30 | Pizbit_ | ep: /me |
| 23:36.40 | creeperz | blast007: only for a joystick? |
| 23:37.03 | blast007 | creeperz: sometimes duals as a midi port too, but normally just for joysticks |
| 23:37.13 | creeperz | wow |
| 23:37.20 | creeperz | is it a special port? |
| 23:37.34 | blast007 | typically on a sound card |
| 23:37.40 | creeperz | or is it just another name for a port that i may already have? |
| 23:37.55 | blast007 | you might have it |
| 23:38.03 | creeperz | ok |
| 23:38.13 | creeperz | with the word might, that means not |
| 23:38.15 | blast007 | really depends...lots of onboard audio won't include them, but most true sound cards do |
| 23:39.01 | blast007 | even old AdLib cards had 'em (I have one on my 486 25MHz) |
| 23:39.15 | blast007 | or maybe it's a Sound Blaster...can't recall |
| 23:39.40 | creeperz | its built into an audio card? |
| 23:39.50 | blast007 | normally |
| 23:40.02 | creeperz | dotn got it |
| 23:40.04 | blast007 | looks sorta like a monitor port, but with a different amount of pins I think |
| 23:40.11 | creeperz | yeah |
| 23:40.29 | blast007 | is your audio built into the motherboard? |
| 23:40.47 | blast007 | or is it a PCI card? |
| 23:40.58 | creeperz | integrated yes |
| 23:41.13 | blast007 | ah, that's typical of onboard |
| 23:41.32 | blast007 | most people use USB joysticks/gamepads nowadays |
| 23:41.40 | creeperz | yeah |
| 23:41.59 | creeperz | i was jsut browsing on ebay for a sidewinder joystick |
| 23:42.04 | creeperz | say it |
| 23:42.06 | creeperz | wondered |
| 23:42.11 | creeperz | in all confusion |
| 23:42.48 | blast007 | you could always throw a sound card in there :) |
| 23:43.19 | creeperz | wow |
| 23:43.22 | creeperz | i DO have one |
| 23:43.27 | creeperz | never saw that thing before :-/ |
| 23:43.27 | blast007 | heh |
| 23:43.53 | creeperz | never paied any attention to it |
| 23:47.03 | creeperz | wait... |
| 23:47.11 | creeperz | is the game port male or female? |
| 23:47.31 | blast007 | female |
| 23:47.38 | creeperz | dang |
| 23:47.41 | blast007 | sure that's not a serial port you're looking at? :)_ |
| 23:47.42 | creeperz | thats not it then |
| 23:47.45 | blast007 | :)* |
| 23:47.47 | JeffM2501 | is the game port hot? and what's it wearing? |
| 23:47.51 | creeperz | it WAS a serial port :-( |
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