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| 00:43.33 | ibot | aribeth <~Aribeth@dsl081-067-057.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2h 34m 9s ago, saying: '~rabbit25--'. |
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| 02:47.52 | Thumper_ | is the anti-spam stuff in bzfs unfinished? |
| 02:48.50 | Thumper_ | it seems to be missing the save-the-last-message from each player code |
| 02:48.55 | Thumper_ | but lots of other stuff is there |
| 02:48.57 | lan56 | thumper_: in CVS I believe it still has a bug, I *believe*, but as for 2.0 release it should have been working great |
| 02:49.07 | lan56 | Thumper_: which version do you mean? |
| 02:49.11 | Thumper_ | (warning and kicking etc) |
| 02:49.54 | Thumper_ | I have a recent (ish) snapshot of CVS |
| 02:49.55 | Thumper_ | for my server |
| 02:50.14 | Thumper_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:50.38 | Thumper_ | and plan to update from CVS again soon to get the new poll disable setvar stuff |
| 02:50.50 | lan56 | hmm, let me take a look, I knew it was a bit screwy, perhaps someone else here knows exactly why its missing, but let me take a look |
| 02:58.08 | lan56 | Thumper_: the code to set the last message is still there, but there is one missing "return" which I'll commit in a sec, it fixes something |
| 02:58.38 | Thumper_ | thx |
| 02:59.04 | Thumper_ | is the antispam code always enabled? or is there a server switch for that? |
| 02:59.54 | Thumper_ | -spamtime and -spamwarn |
| 03:00.28 | lan56 | yes |
| 03:01.13 | lan56 | actually, now that I reread it, my fix I just talked about does nothing as for fixing things, it does ignore the message if it is spam, but it doesn't fix the bug about not setting the last message |
| 03:01.23 | lan56 | I'm still looking though :) |
| 03:09.54 | lan56 | Thumper_: it should already be fixed now that I look, as said in http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=10692234 |
| 03:10.53 | lan56 | as well as in http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/message.php?msg_id=10692233, are you sure you updated bzfs.cxx and cmdlineoptions.h? |
| 03:11.09 | Grumbler | ah the good ole days when i could climb to the top of the scoreboard in a matter of minutes....now it takes hours....and even then, not the top.....getting old |
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| 03:20.29 | Goliath_ | ~seen wegstar |
| 03:20.30 | ibot | wegstar <~foo@adsl-67-122-114-217.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 18h 15m 55s ago, saying: 'night noyb :)'. |
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| 03:21.13 | Goliath_ | brad are you there |
| 03:22.27 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/ChangeLog: clarify |
| 03:36.05 | Thumper_ | lan56: yup it works for me - thanks :) |
| 03:36.25 | lan56 | thank tupone, he fixed it, I just reported it to you :) |
| 03:36.40 | Thumper_ | ~Tupone++ |
| 03:36.46 | Thumper_ | lan56++ |
| 03:36.51 | Thumper_ | ~lan56++ |
| 03:36.55 | Thumper_ | ~Tupone++ |
| 03:36.58 | Thumper_ | thx guys |
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| 04:19.46 | Aribeth | hello brlcad |
| 04:22.09 | brlcad | hi |
| 04:35.52 | lan56 | how did it get into that dark alley? :) |
| 04:36.29 | Pizbit | Out of sight, out of mind. :) |
| 04:38.02 | DTRemenak | Pizbit's got it :) |
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| 05:35.42 | topping | holy dammit batman, this game rocks out! |
| 05:36.06 | lan56 | bzflag, you mean? |
| 05:36.11 | topping | yah! |
| 05:36.21 | topping | i just hit it by accident on my new fc3 machine |
| 05:36.31 | Pizbit | Heh |
| 05:36.34 | Pizbit | 2.0? |
| 05:36.40 | MeBigFatGuy | came bundled with the machine? |
| 05:36.49 | topping | yah |
| 05:36.50 | MeBigFatGuy | :) |
| 05:36.54 | creeperz | coolness |
| 05:36.58 | lan56 | it came bundled?!? |
| 05:37.00 | topping | dunno what version, lemme check |
| 05:37.02 | topping | yah |
| 05:37.05 | topping | bundle |
| 05:37.06 | topping | d |
| 05:37.10 | brlcad | probably 1.8 |
| 05:37.10 | topping | i just installed all games |
| 05:37.11 | MeBigFatGuy | wow |
| 05:37.22 | brlcad | er, 1.12 |
| 05:37.22 | lan56 | wow, that is pretty good for bzflag, to be prepackaged with a new computer |
| 05:37.22 | Pizbit | IIRC it's also on the linux game cd |
| 05:37.23 | creeperz | thats awesome :-) |
| 05:37.42 | topping | well, it's linux fedora core 3 |
| 05:37.48 | lan56 | oh, then nm :) |
| 05:38.06 | MeBigFatGuy | you shoudl get 2.0 |
| 05:38.25 | topping | i have a nvidia quadra 2000 on a 9 megapixel display |
| 05:38.36 | topping | it's taaaaasty |
| 05:38.43 | topping | i will get 2.0 now |
| 05:38.44 | lan56 | you eat computers? |
| 05:38.47 | topping | lol |
| 05:39.19 | topping | yum search bzflag :-) |
| 05:39.40 | topping | 1.10.6 |
| 05:39.49 | lan56 | that's old |
| 05:39.50 | MeBigFatGuy | wow old |
| 05:39.55 | topping | i guess it gets a lot better then wheee! |
| 05:40.05 | MeBigFatGuy | are there any servers that still host 1.10.6? |
| 05:40.18 | topping | yah seems like it |
| 05:40.28 | topping | about 10 people there |
| 05:40.44 | creeperz | losers... |
| 05:40.48 | lan56 | if you think that's good, try 2.0 |
| 05:40.55 | creeperz | mm hmm |
| 05:41.01 | topping | i'll dl source and do an amd64 build |
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| 05:41.56 | topping | does this thing work with microphones? |
| 05:42.23 | SportChick | anyone feel up to tackling my jitter problem tonight? |
| 05:42.43 | MeBigFatGuy | go cold-turkey on the coffee, SportChick |
| 05:42.48 | lan56 | heh |
| 05:42.53 | SportChick | ~lart MeBigFatGuy |
| 05:43.02 | MeBigFatGuy | :) |
| 05:43.55 | lan56 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Himalayas.jpg -- stunning view |
| 05:44.00 | topping | why does bzflag have kerberos? |
| 05:44.27 | MeBigFatGuy | runnaway paranoia about cheating |
| 05:44.36 | topping | ahh hehe |
| 05:47.22 | MeBigFatGuy | poor SportChick :( |
| 05:50.14 | topping | what's a good link for clueless n00bs? |
| 05:50.30 | MeBigFatGuy | bzbb.bzflag.org for one |
| 05:50.40 | creeperz | topping: try the forums |
| 05:50.44 | creeperz | yeah :-) |
| 05:51.03 | topping | okee |
| 05:53.28 | topping | ah the wikipedia entry looks perfect |
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| 06:58.26 | topping | play for an hour -- feel like throwing up |
| 06:58.35 | topping | so dizzy |
| 06:59.06 | topping | wow |
| 06:59.15 | creeperz | lol |
| 06:59.18 | creeperz | funny :-P |
| 06:59.24 | topping | :-D |
| 07:16.50 | topping | are there other first-person shooters for linux? |
| 07:20.06 | jpa_ | quake? :) |
| 07:20.15 | topping | free too? |
| 07:21.05 | jpa_ | bzflag is better |
| 07:21.20 | topping | i'm just finally recovering |
| 07:21.26 | topping | i swear i was about to toss |
| 07:24.58 | jpa_ | :( |
| 07:25.03 | jpa_ | that is not nice |
| 07:25.18 | topping | it says a lot about the game tho, amazin |
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| 07:32.29 | jpa_ | hmm.. i assume you did not go to bzland amusement park? |
| 07:32.45 | topping | what's that? |
| 07:32.57 | topping | server? |
| 07:33.01 | jpa_ | yes |
| 07:33.07 | jpa_ | it makes you throw up :S |
| 07:33.07 | topping | no, what's there? |
| 07:33.10 | topping | haha |
| 07:33.23 | jpa_ | carousels, express-boxes etc. :) |
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| 07:40.33 | creeperz | 1.7 gigs |
| 07:40.43 | creeperz | in under an hour |
| 07:41.23 | topping | what's planetside? |
| 07:41.29 | creeperz | ohhhhh |
| 07:41.33 | creeperz | its so awesome |
| 07:41.34 | topping | ps2? |
| 07:41.37 | creeperz | nooo |
| 07:41.43 | creeperz | computer |
| 07:41.56 | creeperz | imagine a FPS crossed with a RPG |
| 07:41.57 | topping | link? |
| 07:42.00 | topping | niiice |
| 07:42.08 | creeperz | you level |
| 07:42.11 | topping | multiplayer? |
| 07:42.12 | creeperz | you get skills |
| 07:42.16 | creeperz | multiplayer only |
| 07:42.22 | topping | ah rpg right |
| 07:42.25 | creeperz | no |
| 07:42.28 | creeperz | FPS |
| 07:42.32 | topping | oh wow |
| 07:42.35 | creeperz | but with RPG traits |
| 07:42.47 | topping | linux? |
| 07:42.55 | creeperz | its like Renegade and World Of Warcraft combined :-P |
| 07:43.04 | creeperz | topping: prolly not dude :-) |
| 07:43.16 | topping | hrm |
| 07:43.21 | topping | have a link? |
| 07:43.39 | creeperz | http://planetside.station.sony.com/ |
| 07:44.39 | topping | wow, looks wild |
| 07:45.12 | topping | directX |
| 07:45.28 | topping | guess that answers it |
| 07:45.33 | creeperz | lol |
| 07:46.02 | topping | damn, 3am |
| 07:46.07 | topping | i better fly |
| 07:46.41 | topping | nice chatting, i'll check out planetside |
| 07:46.56 | creeperz | see yu |
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| 13:01.44 | BearPerson | Can you somehow limit the amount of resources/processor bzflag uses? |
| 13:02.18 | BearPerson | I'd like to compile in the background while playing, but I get a kinda choppy effect... |
| 13:03.03 | BearPerson | plus, I wouldn't quite want bzflag to slow down the compile if it's just calculating the 70'th frame this second... |
| 13:05.26 | ToughShooter | Perhaps you should try renice |
| 13:05.49 | BearPerson | renice bzflag too? |
| 13:05.59 | BearPerson | let's see how choppy it gets :) |
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| 13:07.42 | ToughShooter | I see you're running Linux so you should know how to use the man pages |
| 13:07.52 | Grumbler | my-heee, my-whoooo, my-aha, my-ahaha |
| 13:08.06 | BearPerson | I know what man is |
| 13:08.23 | BearPerson | and I read the bzflag man page and there is no "fps limit" command-line option |
| 13:08.31 | BearPerson | I even read the config file looking for it |
| 13:08.57 | BearPerson | well, having bzflag on nice 15 and the compile on nice 10 seems to even help |
| 13:09.15 | BearPerson | I only get 25 frames now, but it seems smoother |
| 13:09.19 | BearPerson | thanks for the suggestion... |
| 13:09.35 | BearPerson | because I'm updating glibc |
| 13:09.50 | Pizbit | Er, so?:) |
| 13:10.14 | BearPerson | and I'm bored |
| 13:13.08 | ruskie | :)) |
| 13:15.37 | Grumbler | gar, default.ida madnes |
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| 13:27.57 | DMarec | Hello. |
| 13:30.32 | DMarec | I m running FreeBSD 5.3, and i get some troubles playing bzflag (using nvidia GeForce card) |
| 13:31.03 | DMarec | the game crashes on a SDL error. |
| 13:38.56 | Grumbler | bummer, do you need SDL |
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| 13:39.53 | ruskie | <-- doesn't like bzflag on sdl since it grabs all his keys... *grumbl* |
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| 14:17.24 | rufitos | hi, since the release of 2.0 i started to have probs with jitters, im a OSX user (g5 powermac) |
| 14:17.46 | rufitos | i have the app and Darwin port |
| 14:18.41 | rufitos | today i conect my PC with windows and install bz and for my surprise i dont have any jitters |
| 14:18.59 | rufitos | whats its causing my jitter on OSX? |
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| 14:53.58 | Grumbler | jitter does not seem to be related to OS specifically, but a few people are having issues.......much seems to be related to the chat/radar drawing |
| 14:54.21 | Pizbit | Does turning of smoothing help those with jitter problems? |
| 14:54.28 | Pizbit | off* |
| 14:54.58 | Grumbler | i have heard different accounts |
| 14:55.13 | Grumbler | personally, i have to run with chat off and radar on the "fast" setting |
| 14:55.45 | Grumbler | ...and i am running a 3.2g winxp machine |
| 14:55.45 | Pizbit | heh |
| 14:56.03 | Pizbit | I had I guess 'jitter' when I had smoothing on with some complex maps, disabled smoothing and it went from 0.03fps to over 40 |
| 14:56.06 | Grumbler | i wonder if rufitos built bz from scratch on osx |
| 14:56.42 | rufitos | i compile it from darwin ports |
| 14:58.41 | Grumbler | have you played with the display settings to see if the jitter goes away? |
| 14:59.15 | rufitos | yes, it always ther :( |
| 14:59.50 | Grumbler | tried turing off the chat window and running the radar on fast? (fyi, i am guessing right now) |
| 15:00.34 | rufitos | ok i will try later on, im on windows (i have only 1 monitor) :p |
| 15:01.26 | rufitos | brb, goona change |
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| 15:08.25 | RuFiToS | re hi |
| 15:09.13 | RuFiToS | i change radar to fast and took off cht panel, it worked better jitters drop from 25 to 3 |
| 15:09.39 | Grumbler | cool |
| 15:09.56 | Grumbler | i hate the colors for fast radar though |
| 15:10.03 | RuFiToS | thx Grumbler i will keep testing |
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| 15:10.16 | RuFiToS | i need to adapt to it :) |
| 15:10.30 | Grumbler | if you get a dev here, they may be able to help more than us lurkers |
| 15:10.43 | RuFiToS | and try to find my better settings |
| 15:10.47 | RuFiToS | :) |
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| 15:44.04 | jpa_ | "KCrash: Application 'kate' crashing..." |
| 15:44.10 | jpa_ | .. and my world collapsed :( |
| 15:48.34 | Pizbit | heh |
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| 16:03.38 | ToughShooter_ | ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
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| 17:14.53 | minddog | hey |
| 17:15.05 | minddog | any developers around? |
| 17:17.16 | Simon-Richard | there's not been much discussion here in the last couple of hours |
| 17:28.52 | brlcad | nobody here but us chickens |
| 17:34.55 | minddog | ahh okay =) |
| 17:35.05 | minddog | i got a replacement for the old listserver stuff |
| 17:35.08 | minddog | it doesn't use http |
| 17:35.18 | minddog | binary based protocol |
| 17:36.45 | brlcad | you mean like we had two years ago? |
| 17:37.41 | minddog | yeah, but this stuff is driven by a tier-1 list server system able to handle around 100,000 simultaneous requests |
| 17:38.02 | minddog | *shrug*, its a proof of concept work |
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| 17:38.25 | brlcad | post it to the dev mailing list |
| 17:38.44 | minddog | kk, lemme get the license converted for the client library |
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| 17:40.03 | ruskie | http://www.techimage.net/files/antispyware.png <-- rotfl |
| 17:41.34 | brad2901 | lol |
| 17:41.39 | jpa_ | hi braddie |
| 17:41.47 | brad2901 | hi jpa_ :) |
| 17:42.19 | jpa_ | ruskie :D |
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| 17:56.01 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: You told me lag in /lagstats would depend on FPS, I redid my test with localhost as server and I got 23ms lag with 75FPS. Average PING-time to localhost is 0.215ms. Is this normal? |
| 17:57.05 | JeffM2501 | ibot 1/75 |
| 17:57.06 | ibot | 0.013333333333 |
| 17:57.21 | JeffM2501 | that's the minimum speed the |
| 17:57.34 | JeffM2501 | sory max speed the game can poll net info at that fps |
| 17:57.57 | JeffM2501 | since your also running the server on local host that can take some time to get the data back too |
| 17:59.11 | JeffM2501 | don't know exactly what lagstats does, I know it's not a pure "last ping time" so it may be doing some averaging |
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| 18:00.38 | ToughShooter | I wonder because I was able to get up to 137 +-19ms lag (at 20FPS) on localhost, where sbgodin had less and he's in France... |
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| 18:01.18 | ToughShooter | and that probably explains 5ms lag, not 23 |
| 18:02.33 | JeffM2501 | 23 seems high on localhost |
| 18:02.39 | JeffM2501 | unless your CPU is stressed |
| 18:03.25 | ToughShooter | Well, just running bzfs and BZFlag client (which always uses as much as possible CPU-ticks) |
| 18:03.51 | JeffM2501 | depending on priority that could take it away from the bzfs process |
| 18:04.11 | ToughShooter | So I should try renicing? Hmm |
| 18:04.22 | JeffM2501 | doubt thats the problem |
| 18:04.31 | JeffM2501 | does it play ok? |
| 18:04.37 | JeffM2501 | or is it jittery? |
| 18:04.52 | ToughShooter | Every other player get's jitter around 19ms |
| 18:05.18 | JeffM2501 | well thats just how much there pings vary |
| 18:05.21 | JeffM2501 | that's NOT a lot |
| 18:07.20 | menotume | 19ms can be nasty play |
| 18:07.39 | JeffM2501 | is that there real jitter tho? |
| 18:07.42 | menotume | if it's a real stat |
| 18:07.50 | JeffM2501 | do there pings vary by 20ms? |
| 18:07.50 | menotume | :) |
| 18:07.55 | JeffM2501 | it's feasable that they can |
| 18:08.10 | JeffM2501 | have the clients just ping your boc |
| 18:08.14 | JeffM2501 | see what they get |
| 18:11.04 | menotume | JeffM2501: how does the client work as far as repsonding to pings ... is it multithreaded, using SIGIO, or looping and checking for inout between drawing frames ? |
| 18:11.14 | menotume | *input* |
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| 18:11.32 | JeffM2501 | 1 thread |
| 18:11.38 | JeffM2501 | inbetween rames |
| 18:11.41 | menotume | ahhh, k |
| 18:11.44 | menotume | gotya |
| 18:11.45 | JeffM2501 | that's why FPS can affect it |
| 18:11.52 | jpa_ | for me, nice bzflag helped |
| 18:11.58 | jpa_ | but i did not have high lag |
| 18:12.03 | jpa_ | just high packet loss |
| 18:12.11 | jpa_ | and these "failed to return ping" |
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| 18:13.42 | Noodleman | i need somebody to test something |
| 18:13.52 | menotume | yes, Noodle |
| 18:14.08 | Noodleman | call 1-866-632-0450 |
| 18:14.19 | menotume | and ? |
| 18:14.22 | ToughShooter | I lowered nice value bzfs as much as possible and now I get around 5ms lag :) |
| 18:14.28 | Noodleman | and see if it works :-) |
| 18:14.53 | menotume | lol |
| 18:16.15 | uidzero | Uhm |
| 18:16.21 | uidzero | [bsd] ~> bzflag |
| 18:16.22 | uidzero | /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libGL.so.1" not found, required by "bzflag" |
| 18:16.23 | uidzero | :| |
| 18:16.33 | menotume | it worked |
| 18:16.36 | Noodleman | w00t |
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| 18:17.02 | jpa_ | ToughShooter: lowered? to negative side? |
| 18:17.16 | jpa_ | ToughShooter: i ment putting it higher, like 10 or so :D |
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| 18:20.57 | ToughShooter | jpa_: I've set it to -20 |
| 18:21.01 | uidzero | [bsd] ~> bzflag |
| 18:21.01 | uidzero | bzflag: Command not found. |
| 18:21.03 | uidzero | Grrr.. |
| 18:21.32 | jpa_ | ToughShooter: eww :D |
| 18:21.37 | jpa_ | ToughShooter: but if it helps.. |
| 18:24.03 | menotume | jpa_: lower IS higher :) |
| 18:26.18 | jpa_ | menotume: i know |
| 18:26.28 | menotume | k, sry |
| 18:26.50 | jpa_ | menotume: and for me, negative value just makes it slower if it is under -10 |
| 18:26.59 | jpa_ | takes priority from x or something |
| 18:27.04 | menotume | ahhh |
| 18:27.40 | jpa_ | and what helped for my lag problems with s/w rendering was setting it higher.. don't know why |
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| 18:29.11 | menotume | hmmm, maybe X needs -10 |
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| 18:50.39 | uidzero | I just did a "make deinstall && make reinstall" of bzflag but, it's not workingf. |
| 18:50.44 | uidzero | Even rehashed. |
| 18:50.45 | uidzero | :| |
| 18:50.50 | uidzero | [bsd] ~> rehash |
| 18:50.50 | uidzero | [bsd] ~> bzflag |
| 18:50.50 | uidzero | bzflag: Command not found. |
| 18:52.02 | Aribeth | is the bin directory that bzflag is in in the path variable? |
| 18:54.05 | Aribeth | ie if bzflag is in /usr/local/bzflag/bin that path would need to be added to the path variable |
| 18:55.14 | uidzero | [bsd] ~> whereis bzflag |
| 18:55.14 | uidzero | bzflag: /usr/local/man/man6/bzflag.6.gz /usr/ports/games/bzflag |
| 18:55.14 | uidzero | [bsd] ~> |
| 18:55.15 | uidzero | :| |
| 18:55.44 | Aribeth | make sure that is in you path |
| 18:56.58 | Aribeth | type in echo $PATH to see what is in the path var |
| 18:57.04 | uidzero | Uhm |
| 18:57.08 | uidzero | bzfs works.... |
| 18:57.31 | uidzero | [bsd] /usr/ports/games/bzflag> echo $PATH |
| 18:57.31 | uidzero | /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin:/home/uidzero/bin |
| 18:57.56 | uidzero | bsd# fg |
| 18:57.56 | uidzero | find / -iname bzflag |
| 18:57.56 | uidzero | /usr/ports/games/bzflag |
| 18:57.56 | uidzero | bsd# |
| 18:58.36 | Aribeth | did the client get built? |
| 18:59.45 | Aribeth | the client wont get built is you dont have the GL libs installed |
| 19:00.20 | uidzero | I just uninstalled it and reinstalled... same system, nothing has changed. :| |
| 19:00.55 | Aribeth | look in your bzflag/bin dir and see if bzflag is there |
| 19:01.12 | uidzero | Where wuold that be? |
| 19:01.14 | uidzero | would |
| 19:01.51 | Aribeth | where ever it was installed like /usr/po4rts/games/bzflag/bin |
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| 19:30.39 | uidzero | Nothing. |
| 19:38.45 | jpa_ | hi sc |
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| 20:20.30 | GuessWho | Hey everyone |
| 20:20.47 | Pizbit | GuessWho: Santa?:P |
| 20:21.00 | GuessWho | lol nope guess again |
| 20:21.35 | Pizbit | ...mum? |
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| 20:21.51 | GuessWho | ehh i cant say |
| 20:22.01 | Pizbit | heh |
| 20:22.50 | GuessWho | I need to talk to a board administrator |
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| 20:41.54 | javaJake | ~seen redsoxfan90 |
| 20:41.55 | ibot | redsoxfan90 <Redsoxfan9@h000c6e3d2914.ne.client2.attbi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2d 23h 27s ago, saying: 'hey tim'. |
| 20:42.00 | javaJake | wow. |
| 20:42.01 | javaJake | bye |
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| 21:19.26 | _Manu_ | Tupone: hi! |
| 21:19.34 | Tupone | hola |
| 21:20.04 | _Manu_ | Tupone: is your hide flag stuff in 2.0? |
| 21:20.11 | Tupone | yes |
| 21:20.15 | ruskie | hide flag? |
| 21:20.25 | _Manu_ | well.. hide in radar |
| 21:20.33 | _Manu_ | for the DJ cheat |
| 21:20.34 | Tupone | hide for cheat |
| 21:21.06 | _Manu_ | it's because i'm observing some cheaters.. continuosly trying to grab distant flags.. |
| 21:21.24 | ruskie | cute |
| 21:21.54 | _Manu_ | i'm suspecting there is another cheat running out there.. :-/ |
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| 21:22.21 | ruskie | well best idea is if abnormal behaviour do something funky with the entire game... |
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| 21:41.58 | Tupone | Manu if someone drop a flag, and that does not vanish, they can know what type is. Make all flag during 1 just grab |
| 21:42.24 | ruskie | so what's wrong with finding out what the flag is that way? |
| 21:42.54 | Tupone | is the application that is recording that, not the human mind |
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| 21:43.09 | jpa_ | lol |
| 21:43.26 | _Manu_ | yes.. i knew.. because he was able to pick up a good flag every time |
| 21:44.16 | BearPerson | hmm. there should be special stuff for admins... |
| 21:44.20 | _Manu_ | but.. and the trying to grab distant flag continuosly..? |
| 21:44.27 | BearPerson | that you know if that flag appeared there or was dropped there |
| 21:45.14 | Tupone | _Manu_: if that flag has been dropped once ... |
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| 21:47.05 | _Manu_ | Tupone: i know how the flags respawn/vanish work.. i'm talking about trying to pick up a distant flag.. continuosly |
| 21:47.19 | _Manu_ | Tupone: the server doesn't allow it.. |
| 21:47.27 | Tupone | ahh, I got now :) |
| 21:48.15 | BearPerson | ahh, superflags? |
| 21:48.20 | _Manu_ | also the actual anti speed-cheat is not working fine... i'll implement mine for 2.0 |
| 21:49.38 | Tupone | I know that :) Your anti speed has not been put on. I don't have access to your source :) |
| 21:50.03 | _Manu_ | i'll upgrade for 2.0 new flags.. and submit it |
| 21:50.17 | Tupone | does my fix for ban fix actually ? |
| 21:50.23 | _Manu_ | and allowing true speed or client speed like one option |
| 21:50.55 | _Manu_ | not tested yet.. when Pimpi upgrade the server |
| 21:51.03 | _Manu_ | but may be fine |
| 21:52.04 | _Manu_ | brlcad: if read this.. tell me something about the endshot... |
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| 21:59.26 | Birdie | chestal: |
| 21:59.37 | Birdie | red has allready 7 people on ducati |
| 22:00.06 | Chestal | again? ehm |
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| 22:00.52 | Birdie | 7 is much lol |
| 22:00.59 | Birdie | before i tried if possible to have 6 |
| 22:01.01 | Birdie | wasnt |
| 22:01.05 | Birdie | but after you restarted |
| 22:01.08 | Birdie | 7 allready |
| 22:01.15 | Chestal | very strange |
| 22:01.23 | Chestal | I heard of that problem a few days ago for the first time |
| 22:01.32 | Chestal | before that it had been running for weeks without a problem |
| 22:02.16 | Birdie | maybe no one reported that there were much than the normal 4 in one team |
| 22:02.44 | Chestal | possible, but I don't think so |
| 22:04.11 | jpa_ | what problem? |
| 22:04.37 | jpa_ | team limits don't work? |
| 22:05.56 | Chestal | it's only a sympton, server gets messed up |
| 22:06.04 | Chestal | maybe only the team counts, maybe more |
| 22:06.46 | jpa_ | strange |
| 22:07.00 | jpa_ | no debug stuff? |
| 22:07.33 | Chestal | I have not tried to find the problem |
| 22:07.52 | Chestal | it seems to have occured recently, after a long period without problems |
| 22:08.07 | Chestal | restarted server, and half an hour later the problem occurs again |
| 22:08.22 | Birdie | but strange it happens only to red |
| 22:10.54 | jpa_ | never happened with 1.10? |
| 22:20.57 | BearPerson | I've seen it happen to viper.pimpi |
| 22:21.18 | BearPerson | happened to both blue and red... inside my client at least the scoreboard had 11 and 12 people |
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| 22:21.26 | BearPerson | for red and blue |
| 22:25.34 | Grumbler | whoohoo 10" of snow |
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| 22:38.44 | rabbit25 | hello! |
| 22:39.53 | rabbit25 | HI! |
| 22:42.04 | menotume | Grumbler: you getting the nor-easter ? |
| 22:50.30 | menotume | hi rabbit25 |
| 22:50.39 | rabbit25 | hi! |
| 22:50.41 | rabbit25 | :) |
| 22:51.16 | Birdie | 6 greens now |
| 22:51.23 | Birdie | on ducati |
| 22:51.35 | Birdie | and i tried before to be the 5th green and didnt worked |
| 22:51.36 | Birdie | very strange |
| 22:54.57 | Birdie | 7 greens:( |
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| 22:55.31 | rabbit25 | lol |
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| 23:13.14 | rabbit25 | hello |
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| 23:26.03 | Birdie | ~JeffM2501++ |
| 23:26.15 | Jormungandr | Can't seem to get my server up and running, I can connect locally (localhost.localdomain), but it doesn't reconize my ip, which is kinda strange. I posted the output at http://jormungandr.homedns.org/bzfsoutput -- Help would be greatly appreciated. |
| 23:26.36 | Grumbler | menotume< dont know, we are getting something big for our area |
| 23:28.07 | Grumbler | Jormungandr< do you have a firewall inbetween and do you have the proper port forwarded |
| 23:28.56 | Jormungandr | Shouldn't, but ill check |
| 23:29.00 | Grumbler | the list server doesnt look like it can reach the server |
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| 23:29.24 | andy_ | is 'ass' a badword for the server list? |
| 23:29.52 | JeffM2501 | I dont' think so cus many use the domain kicks-ass.net |
| 23:30.06 | andy_ | hrm mine doesnt appear |
| 23:30.15 | JeffM2501 | get the pingback? |
| 23:30.21 | JeffM2501 | and the list server don't real.y have a filter |
| 23:30.28 | JeffM2501 | we do it manualy by disallowing domains |
| 23:30.40 | andy_ | heh i should do a manaual startup with debugging messages |
| 23:30.48 | JeffM2501 | -d -d -d |
| 23:30.54 | Grumbler | man what the heck came out of my nose.....uggg |
| 23:30.57 | JeffM2501 | youl see the list server login |
| 23:33.37 | andy_ | heh the problem was totally user error... :) |
| 23:33.49 | andy_ | it's easier to search through the server list with db.bzflag.org than the client |
| 23:34.50 | JeffM2501 | client wasn't designed for large numbers of servers |
| 23:34.58 | JeffM2501 | the interface was made for lan games |
| 23:35.22 | andy_ | im not complaining, im just happy that the problem was just mine |
| 23:37.46 | Jormungandr | Which kde tools controls firewall settings? |
| 23:38.14 | andy_ | konsole and vi? :P |
| 23:38.25 | Jormungandr | :P |
| 23:38.50 | poxy | i got married friday |
| 23:39.12 | JeffM2501 | amazing |
| 23:41.42 | JeffM2501 | net connect on a honeymoon? |
| 23:41.44 | JeffM2501 | over that soon? |
| 23:43.49 | poxy | we've been on our honeymoon since we met 2 years ago |
