| 00:01.52 | cosmos | *** USAPATRIOT was ~aaronhelt@c-24-130-243-205.we.client2.attbi.com |
| 00:02.30 | trepan | brlcad: looks like the same ip :) |
| 00:02.52 | cosmos | perhaps he tried to play and found out most servers reject him now |
| 00:02.57 | *** join/#bzflag bz3428 (~45246611@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:05.09 | JeffM2501 | we can't/don't ban on username |
| 00:05.27 | JeffM2501 | and there has been no threat to the list server or network in general, so it's not a masterbanable thing. |
| 00:05.58 | cosmos | brlcad already banned him in the master bans |
| 00:06.07 | JeffM2501 | if he continues his bzbb account can be baned, along with his emmail, preventing him from playing on servers that require global admin |
| 00:06.14 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 00:06.29 | cosmos | he was shouting racist stuff on a bunch of servers and here on irc |
| 00:06.37 | JeffM2501 | ahh didn't see the IRC stuff |
| 00:06.43 | JeffM2501 | then yeah that' makes sense |
| 00:07.04 | *** join/#bzflag Grumbler (~Grumbler@grumbler.bronze.supporter.pdpc) |
| 00:07.05 | cosmos | a real "patriot" |
| 00:07.12 | JeffM2501 | there is no username on bzbb by that name |
| 00:07.28 | cosmos | i dont think he was registered. just came on |
| 00:07.31 | JeffM2501 | not that there are many servers that require global |
| 00:12.45 | SilverFox | I thought patriotism was about love of country, not hate of a race. |
| 00:14.14 | ndim | But it often ends up that way. That is easier to understand and to communicate. |
| 00:17.07 | brlcad | trepan: excellent, thx |
| 00:17.34 | cosmos | i put the test hepcat rings of fire ctf up now hepcat.org:5154 |
| 00:18.45 | *** join/#bzflag brad2901 (brad2901@ACCAECA3.ipt.aol.com) |
| 00:18.57 | brlcad | heh, look at that.. he came back on to flood me too |
| 00:19.38 | brlcad | JeffM2501: yeah, he spammed both IRC and servers from the same IP |
| 00:23.40 | cosmos | hrmn ok where/how do i get the SDL stuff for macosx |
| 00:23.45 | cosmos | cant compile bz without it |
| 00:25.16 | brlcad | from libsdl.org |
| 00:25.24 | cosmos | danke |
| 00:25.30 | brlcad | fink works too |
| 00:25.52 | cosmos | sdl 1.2 ? |
| 00:35.15 | menotume | there is an aaron on bzbb |
| 00:35.30 | menotume | joined jan 31 |
| 00:45.55 | uso | are there any other modules then bzflag needed from cvs to compile? |
| 00:48.49 | uso | does the current cvs version still use BZF0026 protocoll? |
| 00:53.58 | DTRemenak | yes |
| 00:55.24 | brlcad | howdy DTRemenak |
| 00:56.18 | DTRemenak | hi brl` |
| 00:56.24 | DTRemenak | brlcad even |
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| 01:04.08 | SilverFox | how come bzadmin doesn't compile by default (CVS)? |
| 01:06.35 | DTRemenak | it does, afaik |
| 01:11.40 | *** join/#bzflag DTRemenak (~DTRemenak@DHCP-170-84.caltech.edu) |
| 01:13.48 | uso | it does compile, i've just compiled from cvs |
| 01:15.06 | Grumbler | it is a little picky, in that you need to have gl libs installed....even though there isnt any graphics use |
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| 01:16.21 | *** join/#bzflag brad2901 (brad2901@ACCAECA3.ipt.aol.com) |
| 01:22.10 | uso | cvs version is still blurring, damn |
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| 01:29.05 | bryjen | ~bzflist |
| 01:29.17 | Sporty | Aribeth: hi! I was looking for you |
| 01:37.18 | JeffM2501 | http://myth.gibbscam.com/temp/sun.png |
| 01:39.27 | JeffM2501 | and that's the default sky system that came with the library |
| 01:41.17 | Aribeth | hi Sporty |
| 01:41.46 | Aribeth | ~seen SportChick |
| 01:41.49 | ibot | sportchick is currently on #bzflag |
| 01:46.41 | uso | does anybody else have these double pictures? |
| 01:47.58 | orchid | uso: I havent ever seen it |
| 01:50.51 | uso | if i move, especially if i turn i have two pictures with a distance of about 3 or 4 mm on a 20" monitor |
| 01:51.02 | uso | aiming is nearly impossible if in motion |
| 01:52.46 | Aribeth | which video card? |
| 01:53.09 | Aribeth | hi brlcad |
| 01:54.05 | uso | radeon 9200 |
| 01:54.23 | Aribeth | which os? |
| 01:54.31 | uso | no problems with 1.10, quake2, ... |
| 01:54.37 | uso | linux |
| 01:54.43 | uso | 2.6.10 |
| 01:55.10 | Aribeth | did you build bzflag from source? |
| 01:55.44 | uso | yes, latest cvs version, build a hour ago or so |
| 01:56.33 | Aribeth | im not sure then. |
| 01:56.49 | Aribeth | ni use Nvidia cadrs |
| 01:57.09 | uso | debian sarge, g++ 3.3.5 |
| 01:57.39 | uso | nvidia unfortunatly needs binary driver |
| 01:57.43 | Aribeth | which drivers are you using? |
| 01:57.55 | uso | xfree86 |
| 01:58.02 | Aribeth | i know, but the driver works good |
| 01:58.28 | Aribeth | might be a driver prob, but im not sure. |
| 01:59.03 | uso | i have a nvidia on my laptap ... recompiling driver for each new kernel, recent 2.6 kernels badly supported, ... |
| 01:59.27 | orchid | hmm |
| 01:59.35 | Aribeth | i have had no probs with nvidia |
| 01:59.40 | orchid | 2.6 is fine for both nvidias I use |
| 02:00.01 | Aribeth | just got a leadtec geforce 6600 GT. it rocks |
| 02:00.07 | uso | may be, but why does quake2 work without problems? and even bzflag 1.10 ;) |
| 02:00.27 | Aribeth | ni dont know |
| 02:00.40 | orchid | uso: have you tried the most minimal settings as far as textures and so on? |
| 02:00.47 | uso | this 2.0 is more and more frustrating :( |
| 02:00.52 | Aribeth | i hafe never heard of this kind of problem |
| 02:01.28 | uso | i have played arround with a lot of options, without success |
| 02:02.11 | uso | orchid: do u mean steeing quality to low? or how to change textures? |
| 02:02.23 | uso | setting |
| 02:03.22 | orchid | uso: yeah, even mv ~/.bzf out of the way, although it sounds more like the driver than a config thing |
| 02:03.41 | orchid | but you say quake2 if fine? |
| 02:04.24 | uso | disabling textures and setting quality to low does not help |
| 02:04.49 | SportChick | Aribeth: I wanted to let you know that on your rabbit server, it is not doing an automatic kick for high tks. some guy was on there with 0-7 and all 7 were tk and no auto-kick |
| 02:04.58 | uso | but it looks like the distance between the two pictures gets a little bit smaller |
| 02:05.16 | uso | quake2 runs fine |
| 02:05.39 | SportChick | Aribeth: I'm making dinner for two surprise dinner guests, so I probably won't be around for a while, but that's why i was looking for you |
| 02:05.40 | Aribeth | SportChick, thanks for letting be know. Tegan and I will fix it. |
| 02:05.41 | uso | and with more then twice the fps ;) |
| 02:05.56 | Aribeth | me* |
| 02:05.57 | orchid | uso: but it dosent have any tanks :) |
| 02:06.04 | uso | :) |
| 02:10.17 | brlcad | hi Aribeth |
| 02:10.30 | Aribeth | hi brlcad |
| 02:22.28 | DTRemenak | uso, does the double image show up in a screenshot? |
| 02:23.11 | JeffM2501 | bet its just rather low refresh |
| 02:24.21 | bryjen | nice sky |
| 02:25.17 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:25.32 | JeffM2501 | they are even shadow maped :) |
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| 02:27.08 | brlcad | JeffM2501: what's with the frame rate? :) |
| 02:27.36 | brlcad | not even 1M triangles and you're at 50? |
| 02:28.48 | JeffM2501 | ohh was testing using a 2048x2048 shadow map |
| 02:28.50 | JeffM2501 | it's BIG |
| 02:29.18 | JeffM2501 | and I'm doing multipass |
| 02:29.25 | JeffM2501 | and multi texture |
| 02:30.08 | orange | trepan: you around? |
| 02:30.35 | orange | or... brlcad are you hepcat admin? |
| 02:30.39 | brlcad | ahh, cool |
| 02:30.46 | brlcad | orange: you've asked me this before :) |
| 02:30.51 | orange | I don't remember :-) |
| 02:30.59 | JeffM2501 | G3d makes it so easy to do multi texture |
| 02:30.59 | brlcad | remember .. the complaining about disabled local auth? :) |
| 02:31.00 | orange | I can only get on with bzadmin, and I've been told there is a cheater there |
| 02:31.13 | orange | "I said that" is the player |
| 02:31.42 | brlcad | If local auth wasn't disabled, I'd hop on now .. but alas, I'm mostly useless :) |
| 02:39.28 | uso | DTRemenak: the double pictures only appeare if my tank rotates, and i did not manage to make a snapshot while rotating |
| 02:40.19 | uso | it's not even clear for me when bzflag decides to make a snapshot, sometime it makes one, if i press F7, sometimes not |
| 02:41.50 | bryjen | F5 is the default screenshot key |
| 02:42.29 | uso | JeffM2501: may be, i do not get bzflag 2.0 to more then 40 fps (1.10: >100 fps) |
| 02:42.54 | JeffM2501 | are you vsync? |
| 02:42.56 | uso | oops, F5!? |
| 02:43.00 | JeffM2501 | you could be shearing |
| 02:45.52 | uso | ok, F5 works :), sorry |
| 02:46.34 | uso | but picture freezes while making a snapshot and there is no double picture while making the snapshot |
| 02:47.59 | JeffM2501 | then your probably shearing |
| 02:48.10 | JeffM2501 | make sure your video card is set to vsync |
| 02:48.35 | uso | JeffM2501: where to set vsync on bzflag? could not remember of any option to set/reset this |
| 02:48.45 | JeffM2501 | it's not a bzflag option |
| 02:48.49 | JeffM2501 | it's a video driver thing |
| 02:48.55 | JeffM2501 | what OS? |
| 02:49.12 | uso | hmm, but i dont set or reset this option for bzflag 1.10 |
| 02:49.21 | uso | linux, debian |
| 02:49.22 | JeffM2501 | it's NOT A BZFLAG option |
| 02:49.59 | brlcad | you sure about that? *cough* |
| 02:50.06 | uso | i understand, but what i mean i run bzflag 1.10 with the same driver(options) without having this double pictures |
| 02:50.08 | JeffM2501 | in 1.10 you got over 70fps ( your probable refresh) so you would not see shearing, in 2.0 your geting LESS then your refresh in FPS, so it can try to refresh in the middle of drawing a frame |
| 02:50.20 | uso | aaaaaahhhhhhhhhh |
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| 02:50.31 | JeffM2501 | Im just guessing tho |
| 02:50.37 | JeffM2501 | I don't think it's a bz option |
| 02:50.47 | uso | so i need a faster 2.0 *g* |
| 02:50.47 | JeffM2501 | on windows we set it in our driver controll panel |
| 02:50.48 | brlcad | hehe, it's not |
| 02:51.02 | JeffM2501 | no, you need to make sure your driver for X is set to sycn to the VBL |
| 02:51.22 | JeffM2501 | then it will not draw GL while it's fliping a frame |
| 02:51.38 | JeffM2501 | it's often called VBL, or VSync |
| 02:52.47 | JeffM2501 | does the problem seem less on simpler maps? |
| 02:52.49 | uso | ... and even gets more slower ;( |
| 02:52.52 | brlcad | it's supposed to be on by default for double-buffered sdl |
| 02:53.08 | brlcad | uso, can try adjusting your options to improve the framerate |
| 02:53.20 | brlcad | is depth culling turned on? (it's off by default) |
| 02:53.28 | uso | have tried, all effects off, lightning off, ... |
| 02:53.37 | JeffM2501 | is Depth buffer on or off |
| 02:53.40 | JeffM2501 | it should be on |
| 02:53.45 | JeffM2501 | off can make it VERY slow |
| 02:54.07 | brlcad | get rid of scores and make your font panel smaller might do wonders too |
| 02:54.13 | uso | depth buffer on (fortunatly there is a little remark "off (slower)") |
| 02:54.48 | uso | can i start bzflag directly from build directory? |
| 02:54.57 | JeffM2501 | yeah the legacy of chestal seems to mess up many a hardware person |
| 02:55.22 | brlcad | uso: yep |
| 02:57.34 | uso | have recompiled bzflag without SDL, same effect |
| 02:58.32 | brlcad | yep |
| 02:58.46 | brlcad | what's your video card? |
| 02:58.52 | uso | radeon 9200 |
| 02:59.11 | uso | btw, what driver does bzflag use if SDL is disabled? |
| 02:59.19 | JeffM2501 | same |
| 02:59.23 | brlcad | this probably applies only to nvidia, but you can try: export __GL_SYNC_TO_VBLANK=1 |
| 02:59.26 | JeffM2501 | SDL is just a layer on top of X |
| 02:59.42 | JeffM2501 | we don't pick a driver, X picks the driver |
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| 03:01.38 | brlcad | uso: seriously, though -- try turning off the score panel and make the chat console smaller |
| 03:01.54 | uso | brlcad: no effect, but may be another one for ati |
| 03:03.33 | brlcad | grep Capabilities /etc/X11/XF86* |
| 03:07.15 | blast007 | :) |
| 03:07.26 | Aribeth | lol |
| 03:08.09 | orange | 195.150.132.* -- folks, watch your servers for this cheater |
| 03:08.17 | orange | signing on as "red team" "i said that", etc. |
| 03:10.17 | uso | your assumption with the vsync seems to be right, i now get about 60 fps |
| 03:10.40 | uso | now i have less double pictures, it's now more a jerking |
| 03:11.08 | uso | so why this 2.0 is so xxxxxx slow!? |
| 03:11.27 | brlcad | uso: did you try _anything_ i've asked you to check? |
| 03:11.30 | uso | only because of the new translucency? |
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| 03:11.58 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 03:12.15 | uso | brlcad: i switched it to the smallest size, thats how i got the 60 fps |
| 03:12.28 | brlcad | you turned off the scores? |
| 03:12.37 | shorty114 | wb, JeffM2501 |
| 03:12.52 | brlcad | 's' iirc |
| 03:13.13 | brlcad | turn off underlining too |
| 03:13.30 | brlcad | or turn off the chat panel altogether |
| 03:13.42 | brlcad | that should give a huge boost |
| 03:14.06 | DTRemenak | 'w' turns off the console panel |
| 03:14.35 | uso | i mostly have the scores of with 2.0, because the font of the score is not transparent anymore and too bright |
| 03:14.50 | Aribeth | my fps = 196 with everything on |
| 03:15.13 | brlcad | uso: ehh, making them non-transparent is NOT turning them off |
| 03:15.20 | brlcad | transparency isn't the problem |
| 03:16.44 | uso | 70 fps, less jerking |
| 03:17.08 | uso | radar off, console off, scores off |
| 03:17.58 | brlcad | that should be about what you would see with 1.10 on the same map |
| 03:18.31 | brlcad | which would explain why you get tearing now.. framerate's dropped below your refresh rate |
| 03:21.12 | uso | yes, that seems to be the problem |
| 03:21.37 | uso | but playing without radar and console ;) |
| 03:21.53 | uso | so 2.0 is too slow for my hardware :( |
| 03:24.09 | brlcad | well, it'll be improved in the next update |
| 03:24.27 | brlcad | uso: what's your screen resolution? |
| 03:25.06 | brlcad | dropping that down a notch will increase your rate much better than any code fix |
| 03:25.27 | JeffM2501 | or vsycn |
| 03:26.05 | uso | brad2901: good to hear :) |
| 03:26.35 | uso | JeffM2501: i will look for that vsync things, have no idea so far |
| 03:26.54 | uso | can i use fonts from 1.10 on 2.0? |
| 03:27.19 | uso | if i lower resolution fonts are too big on 2.0 |
| 03:28.09 | brlcad | uso: you can control the font size in 2.0 |
| 03:28.11 | uso | brlcad: screen 1600x1200, bzflag 1024x768 now |
| 03:28.28 | brlcad | heh, now that's a decrease! |
| 03:28.31 | brlcad | no wonder |
| 03:28.44 | brlcad | what's your framerate? |
| 03:28.53 | uso | brlcad: i know, but smallest size is unreadable (and also ugly), second smallest too big |
| 03:29.27 | brlcad | uso: there are other fonts you can choose from |
| 03:29.39 | brlcad | try profont |
| 03:29.55 | brlcad | have to edit your config file to select it |
| 03:31.08 | uso | which setting? |
| 03:31.29 | brlcad | tell me your framerate first :P |
| 03:31.57 | uso | brlcad: 1280x1024 60, 1024x768 90 |
| 03:32.04 | orange | say it at the same time |
| 03:32.12 | uso | lol |
| 03:32.21 | brlcad | hrm.. that's much lower than it should be |
| 03:32.28 | brlcad | but I assume you turned fonts back on |
| 03:32.37 | uso | yes :) |
| 03:32.53 | uso | got my radar/console back :) |
| 03:33.09 | brlcad | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2677 |
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| 03:34.22 | uso | 1024x768: 100..120, depanding how much objects in my view |
| 03:35.16 | uso | 2.0 slowly moves towards playability *g* |
| 03:37.18 | uso | is there also a possibility to make the font a bit less glaring? |
| 03:37.41 | orange | geez, I play at <30fps almost all the time |
| 03:37.54 | orange | I guess playability is relative |
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| 03:38.56 | MeBigFatGuy | ah, now i feel all warm inside |
| 03:38.59 | MeBigFatGuy | *shucks* |
| 03:39.17 | Grumbler | you'all are beginning to freak me out here.... |
| 03:39.42 | DTRemenak | bah, brlcad types faster than I do |
| 03:39.48 | brlcad | :) |
| 03:40.06 | Grumbler | !lart DTRemenak and brlcad |
| 03:40.41 | DTRemenak | guu is so unfriendly. cuts me in half and won't even hug me back :( |
| 03:40.53 | purple_cow | CIA is friendlier |
| 03:40.57 | CIA-5 | *purr* |
| 03:41.35 | brlcad | eek! |
| 03:42.05 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 03:44.00 | bryjen | !praise DTRemenak |
| 03:44.13 | Thumper_ | ick |
| 03:44.32 | Aribeth | its getting deep in here. |
| 03:44.42 | uso | brlcad: a lot better :) |
| 03:45.00 | uso | brlcad: although not as good as 1.10 |
| 03:45.23 | Aribeth | get an Nvidia card |
| 03:46.01 | orange | watch that |
| 03:46.16 | MeBigFatGuy | grumbler should hug HIS nvidia card |
| 03:46.18 | orange | or squeezed |
| 03:46.34 | MeBigFatGuy | jeeze why is everyone hugging my card? |
| 03:46.35 | purple_cow | MeBigFatGuy: hehe |
| 03:46.36 | Grumbler | yeah, yeah, yeah......bunch of... |
| 03:47.02 | Aribeth | ROFLOL |
| 03:47.17 | orange | watch where you aim that ginsu |
| 03:49.07 | Grumbler | no sucking orange here mister |
| 03:49.22 | uso | btw, the rulers for pulsating rate and depth are falling back to the second highest value if you set them to the highest attitude |
| 03:49.37 | Grumbler | evening JBdiGriz |
| 03:50.00 | JBdiGriz | Grumbler: It certainly is :D |
| 03:51.06 | brlcad | mmm.. wine |
| 03:51.20 | JBdiGriz | yech..whine |
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| 03:54.27 | purple_cow | hmm, wine |
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| 03:59.05 | uso | thanks a lot so far, guys |
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| 04:14.05 | MeBigFatGuy | is there anyone to specify items in .cvsignore that apply to the whole tree? |
| 04:14.12 | MeBigFatGuy | s/anyone/anyway/ |
| 04:15.36 | MeBigFatGuy | well, i suppose it doesn't have to be in .cvsignore, but should be check-inable from the tree |
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| 04:15.38 | brlcad | http://docs.freebsd.org/info/cvs/cvs.info.cvsignore.html |
| 04:16.09 | brlcad | checkout CVSROOT |
| 04:16.21 | brlcad | edit CVSROOT/cvsignore for global ignores |
| 04:16.21 | MeBigFatGuy | * The per-repository list in `$CVSROOT/CVSROOT/cvsignore' is |
| 04:16.21 | MeBigFatGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:17.32 | brlcad | yep |
| 04:18.04 | MeBigFatGuy | hmm, is that cvsignore without a preceding . (dot) ? |
| 04:18.10 | brlcad | yes |
| 04:18.39 | brlcad | it's an CVSROOT administration file .. not in your module, in the CVSROOT module |
| 04:18.48 | MeBigFatGuy | hmmmm |
| 04:18.54 | brlcad | it applies globally |
| 04:19.08 | MeBigFatGuy | so where is CVSROOT, then? |
| 04:19.16 | brlcad | every repository has one |
| 04:19.21 | brlcad | cvs checkout CVSROOT |
| 04:19.28 | MeBigFatGuy | oh, so bzflag/CVSROOT/cvsignore? |
| 04:19.37 | MeBigFatGuy | oh |
| 04:19.38 | brlcad | not quite |
| 04:19.39 | MeBigFatGuy | i see |
| 04:19.42 | MeBigFatGuy | a different project |
| 04:19.47 | brlcad | kinda |
| 04:20.09 | brlcad | you can cd to bzflag and checkout CVSROOT since the Root is already set and is the same |
| 04:20.11 | purple_cow | yay CVS :P |
| 04:21.03 | MeBigFatGuy | ok.. i have a ton of projects from different cvs's in one directory |
| 04:21.14 | MeBigFatGuy | one of these subprojects is CVSROTO |
| 04:21.17 | MeBigFatGuy | er, CVSROOT |
| 04:21.23 | MeBigFatGuy | do all projects share this one? |
| 04:21.28 | brlcad | depends |
| 04:21.40 | brlcad | are they all from the same Root? |
| 04:21.44 | MeBigFatGuy | no |
| 04:21.55 | brlcad | then it's not for all projects |
| 04:22.09 | MeBigFatGuy | ok, so really i need bzflag/bzflag and bzflag/CVSROOT |
| 04:22.14 | MeBigFatGuy | dir structure |
| 04:22.20 | brlcad | not really |
| 04:22.28 | brlcad | cat CVSROOT/Root |
| 04:22.36 | brlcad | er, CVSROOT/CVS/Root |
| 04:22.57 | brlcad | i.e. look in that file -- it tells you which root |
| 04:23.53 | brlcad | that CVSROOT directory that you just checked out |
| 04:24.01 | brlcad | there should be a CVS directory inside it |
| 04:24.04 | MeBigFatGuy | oh, didn't do that |
| 04:24.06 | MeBigFatGuy | yet |
| 04:24.08 | brlcad | ahh |
| 04:24.28 | MeBigFatGuy | but my point is, i should push it and the main project dir, down into it's own directory |
| 04:24.33 | MeBigFatGuy | so as not to confuse the issue |
| 04:24.36 | brlcad | cvs -d username@cvs.sf.net:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P CVSROOT will get bz's cvsroot files |
| 04:24.51 | brlcad | sure, you can put the checkout whereever |
| 04:24.57 | brlcad | just not to confuse it as a BZ subdir |
| 04:24.59 | MeBigFatGuy | ok i see |
| 04:25.20 | brlcad | it's a module just like "bzflag" is |
| 04:25.26 | MeBigFatGuy | yeah, ok |
| 04:25.44 | MeBigFatGuy | danka |
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| 04:26.00 | brlcad | de nada |
| 04:26.06 | brlcad | http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/ |
| 04:26.12 | brlcad | you can see it there .. CVSROOT |
| 04:26.25 | MeBigFatGuy | yes |
| 04:28.55 | MeBigFatGuy | hm mr. tim hasn't committed the bzstats stuff yet, i see |
| 04:41.07 | JBdiGriz | orange just submitted a patch which puts up more info on the HUD. It looks fairly interesting for admins who want to watch out for troublemakers. |
| 04:41.45 | orange | the patch on sourceforge is not complete... I added another feature, fyi |
| 04:42.12 | orange | JBdiGriz: what do you think about just changing the player callsign to cyan rather than printing the TK message? |
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| 04:42.14 | cosmos | it needs to include an automatic DoS against troublemakers :) |
| 04:43.45 | JBdiGriz | It's probably a good idea, since the current message is a bit long, and the team color would still be available on the slot and other info. |
| 04:46.34 | orange | revised patch emailed (twice, once empty :- |
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| 05:14.36 | orchid | _o/ |
| 05:18.46 | Tegan | |%)| |
| 05:19.40 | Tegan | ~fishslap Aribeth |
| 05:19.42 | ibot | ACTION slaps Aribeth up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 05:19.55 | Aribeth | yay |
| 05:20.16 | Aribeth | ~lart tegan |
| 05:20.33 | Tegan | how did that get in there? |
| 05:20.43 | Aribeth | lol |
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| 06:08.25 | SilverFox | Grumbler, I see. |
| 06:11.41 | orchid | http://offsite.willo.net/2405/2405.html wow |
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| 06:19.46 | purple_cow | orchid: wow |
| 06:19.53 | purple_cow | that's beautiful :) |
| 06:19.55 | orchid | yup |
| 06:20.48 | orchid | purple_cow: theres coupons apparently, people getting them for as low as $860 plus tax |
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| 06:36.00 | ToughShooter | PING Sporty |
| 06:36.44 | ToughShooter | PING SportChick |
| 07:01.59 | SportChick | ToughShooter: pong |
| 07:02.11 | jpa_ | mornign sc |
| 07:02.15 | jpa_ | morning ts |
| 07:02.19 | SportChick | gmorning jpa |
| 07:02.32 | ToughShooter | Sporty, I have a fix for the polling permissions |
| 07:02.44 | SportChick | ToughShooter: cool! |
| 07:02.49 | SportChick | great job, thanks |
| 07:03.08 | jpa_ | what kind of a fix? |
| 07:03.13 | SportChick | ToughShooter: I'll look for you when I wake up and you can tell me all about it |
| 07:03.19 | SportChick | right now i can't even keep my eyes ope |
| 07:03.22 | ToughShooter | one moment please |
| 07:03.23 | SportChick | s/ope/open |
| 07:03.28 | jpa_ | what is wrong with them? the /poll set _gravity 0 style? |
| 07:03.35 | ToughShooter | See this http://www.pastebin.com/249120 |
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| 07:04.33 | jpa_ | is poll the same as poll-anything? |
| 07:05.02 | brlcad | huh? |
| 07:05.24 | jpa_ | huh what? |
| 07:06.10 | brlcad | well, literally no -- poll is four characters, poll-anything is 13 -- try a more descriptive question :P |
| 07:06.29 | jpa_ | ok |
| 07:06.54 | jpa_ | if i have only poll permission, but not pollkick or pollban, can i /poll kick brlcad? |
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| 07:07.26 | jpa_ | (this is directed to ToughShooter and is about his patch) |
| 07:08.08 | ToughShooter | jpa_: This is no patch, it's just a setting for the group privilege database |
| 07:08.14 | DTRemenak | jpa_, no. |
| 07:08.34 | DTRemenak | POLL allows polling. Which kinds of polling you're allowed to do is controlled by the others. |
| 07:08.36 | ToughShooter | You can do any poll option other than setting server variables |
| 07:08.37 | jpa_ | sounds like it breaks the old permission |
| 07:08.44 | jpa_ | humm |
| 07:09.11 | DTRemenak | there's not really any good reason to keep it around, actually. |
| 07:09.16 | brlcad | it's pointless to deny polling and then grant specific polling abilities -- you need both |
| 07:09.29 | brlcad | but it might be useful to have poll but not have the ability to poll set for example |
| 07:09.40 | jpa_ | humm |
| 07:09.50 | jpa_ | why couldn't poll be alias to poll-anything |
| 07:09.57 | jpa_ | and then we could have like -pollset |
| 07:10.07 | jpa_ | or we could give only pollkick, for example |
| 07:10.25 | PrezKennedy | im tryin out netscape 8 beta |
| 07:10.56 | PrezKennedy | seems pretty nice |
| 07:11.21 | brlcad | jpa_: perhaps because it's not clear what it means to have poll-anything and poll-set together without reading some documentation |
| 07:11.55 | jpa_ | no, i said -POLLSET |
| 07:12.12 | jpa_ | (while i'm not sure if bzfs has -Permissions) |
| 07:12.15 | brlcad | what the heck is -pollset? |
| 07:12.23 | jpa_ | negative pollset permission |
| 07:12.27 | brlcad | there are antipermissions |
| 07:12.30 | jpa_ | yes |
| 07:12.33 | brlcad | antikick antiban |
| 07:12.39 | jpa_ | hmph |
| 07:12.51 | jpa_ | so antipollset :) |
| 07:13.11 | Pimpinella | just posted stuff to sf for that |
| 07:13.14 | jpa_ | because poll now gives permission for everything, we shouldn't break it |
| 07:13.17 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.17 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.17 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.17 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.17 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.20 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.27 | Pimpinella | !pollset forbids it |
| 07:13.28 | guu | Pimpinella: Buy me dinner first. |
| 07:13.35 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 07:13.37 | DTRemenak | haha |
| 07:13.44 | PrezKennedy | !food |
| 07:13.45 | guu | PrezKennedy: I'm sorry, that makes NO FREAKING SENSE to me what so ever. |
| 07:13.47 | jpa_ | hmph hmph, so is there !permissions and antipermissions? |
| 07:13.48 | brlcad | someone's not reading the sources |
| 07:14.01 | DTRemenak | jpa_, antiperms are protective |
| 07:14.08 | jpa_ | ah |
| 07:14.22 | jpa_ | so brlcad explained badly |
| 07:14.30 | Pimpinella | jpa_: no, not yet, i posted a patch, but nobody found it worthy yet ;) |
| 07:14.37 | DTRemenak | no, he answered a question that you didn't ask |
| 07:14.51 | Pimpinella | well.. |
| 07:14.52 | brlcad | i'm good for that |
| 07:15.05 | DTRemenak | it's always good to know stuff you didn't ask about |
| 07:15.17 | PrezKennedy | ask him how his day has been and he'll tell you what the weather is like outside :-) |
| 07:15.27 | DTRemenak | brlcad, how was your day today? |
| 07:15.28 | brlcad | it's a bit chilly, but I'm hungry |
| 07:15.42 | DTRemenak | mm, chili. |
| 07:15.51 | PrezKennedy | hahahahahaha |
| 07:15.52 | brlcad | mm, heh |
| 07:16.19 | PrezKennedy | i want some food |
| 07:16.23 | DTRemenak | why not Ernie's? |
| 07:16.41 | brlcad | Waffle House doesn't like Ernie |
| 07:16.52 | ToughShooter | Why does again -> again, "(again" -> "(%$!%$" and "again)" -> "again)"? |
| 07:16.53 | DTRemenak | I see :) |
| 07:17.11 | DTRemenak | ToughShooter, because ( -> C for 1337 |
| 07:17.28 | DTRemenak | w00t :) |
| 07:17.34 | ToughShooter | What is 1337? |
| 07:17.39 | PrezKennedy | mmmm waffle house |
| 07:17.50 | jpa_ | ToughShooter: it is 7331 backwards |
| 07:17.55 | DTRemenak | ToughShooter, 13375p34|< |
| 07:18.06 | ToughShooter | I see that "(" is chr(40) |
| 07:18.14 | DTRemenak | leetspeak |
| 07:18.14 | brlcad | ToughShooter: the "leet" filter where all sorts of l4m3 sh!7 gets matched |
| 07:18.48 | jpa_ | ToughShooter: draw a ( on paper and a C on paper and think a bit |
| 07:19.19 | jpa_ | while i do not know what is bad in cagain |
| 07:19.20 | brlcad | the fact that it matches caga + in suffix is a limitation (foreign word + english suffix) |
| 07:19.23 | jpa_ | ~dict cagain |
| 07:19.30 | jpa_ | ~dict caga |
| 07:19.32 | DTRemenak | ~tr es en caga |
| 07:19.40 | brlcad | heh |
| 07:19.50 | brlcad | c'mon ibot, be a sport |
| 07:19.54 | DTRemenak | maybe ibot's not brave enough :) |
| 07:20.03 | brlcad | ~tr es en cagando |
| 07:20.15 | brlcad | bah, wuss |
| 07:20.20 | DTRemenak | ~tr es hola |
| 07:20.23 | jpa_ | ~x es en cagando |
| 07:20.24 | DTRemenak | ~tr es en hola |
| 07:20.29 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 07:20.33 | jpa_ | ~x es en caga |
| 07:20.35 | brlcad | hrm |
| 07:20.58 | DTRemenak | apparently not a very complete translator :) |
| 07:21.11 | jpa_ | :) |
| 07:21.12 | ToughShooter | I understand now. :) Thanks |
| 07:21.23 | jpa_ | ~ibot-- |
| 07:21.39 | ToughShooter | ~karma ibot |
| 07:21.39 | ibot | ibot has karma of 11 |
| 07:21.46 | jpa_ | ~karma jpa_ |
| 07:21.46 | ibot | jpa_ has karma of 12 |
| 07:21.46 | brlcad | ~translate es en robot |
| 07:21.50 | jpa_ | i lead :) |
| 07:21.59 | jpa_ | ~translate en es robot |
| 07:22.04 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 07:22.18 | brlcad | ~translate en es crap |
| 07:22.25 | brlcad | heh |
| 07:22.29 | DTRemenak | well, now... |
| 07:22.41 | DTRemenak | they need a better dictionary :) |
| 07:22.54 | jpa_ | we could teach ibot |
| 07:23.02 | brlcad | the babelfish doesn't want to be "soiled" I suppose |
| 07:23.13 | DTRemenak | freetranslation.com correctly translates caga |
| 07:23.21 | jpa_ | ibot tr en fi cat is <reply> kissa |
| 07:23.22 | ibot | jpa_: okay |
| 07:23.53 | jpa_ | ~tr en fi cat |
| 07:23.54 | ibot | kissa |
| 07:24.07 | jpa_ | feel free to teach more :) |
| 07:24.14 | DTRemenak | ~translate en fi cat |
| 07:24.24 | DTRemenak | babelfish doesn't do finnish? |
| 07:24.28 | jpa_ | nope |
| 07:24.32 | DTRemenak | that sucks |
| 07:24.35 | jpa_ | yup |
| 07:24.41 | DTRemenak | especially for the finns :) |
| 07:25.03 | brlcad | yay, go dolfinns |
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| 08:53.21 | _Manu_ | tupone, ciao! |
| 08:54.21 | tupone | hola |
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| 10:05.27 | _Manu_ | tupone, I'm testing endShot with bots and no udp, tracing every counter for every player/bot and all seems to be fine :-/ |
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| 13:51.55 | Grumbler | morin |
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| 14:31.14 | menotume | mornin' Grimbler dood |
| 14:31.21 | menotume | err, Grumbler |
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| 15:16.35 | Grumbler | morin melotune...err, menotume :) |
| 15:22.58 | Grumbler | _Manu_< but the real question is.....were your bots cheating? |
| 15:28.08 | _Manu_ | Grumbler: wrong question ;-P |
| 15:28.52 | Grumbler | heh |
| 15:28.55 | _Manu_ | Grum: if a player or bot send wrong endShots.. then kicked |
| 15:29.34 | _Manu_ | the test was not using UDP |
| 15:29.51 | _Manu_ | and if a bot is kicked.. then his owner too.. heh |
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| 15:35.35 | orange | _Manu_: I made that client-side patch to show slot numbers in the scoreboard... it's turned on only if you enable it with a variable in your config file. It's on the sourceforge patches site, but get the attachment, not the inline patch. |
| 15:40.31 | orchid | hm, is the server not built by default now, configure is telling me it wont be built |
| 15:43.51 | Grumbler | orchid< what packages are missing |
| 15:44.16 | orchid | curses: -lncurses |
| 15:44.16 | orchid | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.16 | orchid | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.16 | orchid | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.16 | orchid | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:44.31 | Grumbler | hmm, that is odd |
| 15:44.45 | orchid | Grumbler: no idea, same thing on my laptop |
| 15:44.52 | Grumbler | is this a recent head |
| 15:44.55 | Grumbler | i assume so |
| 15:45.03 | orchid | both machines I did cvs update |
| 15:45.17 | orchid | but only my desktop asked for a password for some reason |
| 15:51.28 | Grumbler | make: *** No rule to make target `bzfs'. Stop. |
| 15:52.08 | Grumbler | cat bzfs.6s | \ |
| 15:52.08 | Grumbler | sed -e "s'INSTALL_DATA_DIR'/usr/local/share/bzflag'g" | \ |
| 15:52.08 | Grumbler | sed -e "s'BUILD_DATE'2005-03-04'g" | \ |
| 15:52.08 | Grumbler | sed -e "s'BUILD_VERSION'2.0.1'g" > bzfs.6 |
| 15:52.08 | Grumbler | /bin/sh: line 1: bzfs.6: Permission denied |
| 15:52.21 | JBdiGriz | G'Morning Mr. Grumbler, Ms. orchid, et. al. |
| 15:52.21 | Grumbler | ...that was a recent change |
| 15:52.30 | Grumbler | g'day mr JBdiGriz |
| 15:52.32 | orchid | ciao JBdiGriz |
| 15:53.20 | Grumbler | i think bryjen was working on this yesterday, something about alpha sorting |
| 15:53.52 | orchid | lets blame him then |
| 15:53.52 | orchid | to be on the safe side |
| 15:53.57 | Grumbler | it always works for me |
| 15:54.01 | Grumbler | :) |
| 15:54.03 | JBdiGriz | Practicing safe programming? |
| 15:54.22 | orchid | JBdiGriz: always |
| 15:54.39 | Grumbler | if i knew what that was, i would say yes |
| 15:54.55 | JBdiGriz | Take a hack on the dark side >:) |
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| 16:24.36 | Grumbler | ah, much better |
| 16:25.20 | Chestal | CVS compiles fine for me |
| 16:27.40 | _Manu_ | cvs fine for me too |
| 16:29.03 | Grumbler | not at the point where i can say bzfs is built yet however |
| 16:29.33 | Chestal | bzfs builds |
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| 16:30.53 | Grumbler | heh, no....i dont use this machine often....when i do, it usually to browse the logs....so i almost always come in as root...... |
| 16:31.58 | Grumbler | ok bzfs is building, even though the configure output did not indicate it. |
| 16:32.53 | Grumbler | ....and now i am wondering if it ever did.....but i assume it did, because this is the second time i have heard someone point out that fact |
| 16:33.49 | Chestal | I think bzfs is always built |
| 16:34.08 | Chestal | there doesn't seem to be an option to disable it, either |
| 16:34.34 | Grumbler | why wouldnt you want bzfs :) |
| 16:35.31 | Grumbler | ok, all is well, compile finished no errors |
| 16:35.58 | Grumbler | ...well except for the fact that bzadmin didnt build because of some silly gl.h stuff |
| 16:37.21 | Nidhoggr | that's still annoying. :p |
| 16:37.51 | ToughShooter | Hi Nidhoggr |
| 16:38.04 | Grumbler | yeah it is.....who do you have to buy beer for in this place to get that patched up |
| 16:38.21 | Nidhoggr | hi |
| 16:38.21 | Nidhoggr | lag is all over the place on IRC today. |
| 16:42.06 | tupone | If you manage to get me about 12 bottle of Bud, I'll fix |
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| 16:45.25 | Grumbler | tupone< BUD!?, you must be very, very thirsty |
| 16:45.45 | tupone | :) |
| 16:45.59 | tupone | you don't like ? |
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| 16:48.10 | tupone | Well, mostly depend from where you are, I'd ask wine if it come from Cali |
| 16:49.26 | Grumbler | http://www.ciuitre.it/ ....getting closer |
| 16:50.45 | bz6613 | dum de dum |
| 16:50.50 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: ping |
| 16:51.30 | ToughShooter | Nidhoggr: I redefined the group VERIFIED, that gives the group the same rights as before but /poll set can't be used then. |
| 16:52.33 | Nidhoggr | I may disable polling all together. |
| 16:53.24 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: do the logs not track /set commands? |
| 16:53.31 | Nidhoggr | they should |
| 16:53.47 | ToughShooter | Why? I think it would be good to give players the ability to kick someone else when no admin is there |
| 16:54.03 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: also, wingsjumpcount showed up as 3 when I arrived on sp a few minutes ago. I reset it to 6. But I can't find in the logs where the /set command was used to see who did it |
| 16:54.17 | ToughShooter | vicious was it |
| 16:54.17 | Nidhoggr | maybe there is a way to make it so that when there is an admin, the /poll function doesn't work. |
| 16:55.04 | ToughShooter | I know no way to achieve that. |
| 16:55.06 | SportChick | Nidhoggr: it would be good to be able to segregate the poll functions. the /poll set function separate from /poll kick/ban |
| 16:55.26 | Nidhoggr | nod |
| 16:55.40 | Thumper_ | SportChick: with the new cvs version you can disable /set polls for the server (I think) |
| 16:56.01 | ToughShooter | Nidhoggr: I did http://www.pastebin.com/249265 |
| 16:56.08 | SportChick | Thumper_: that would be good, thanks |
| 16:57.22 | ToughShooter | SportChick: This is what I did. POLLSET is disabled with my definition. Could run a demonstration server if wanted. |
| 16:57.44 | SportChick | ts: good deal. no demo necessary for me |
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| 16:59.44 | Nidhoggr | just remember, it needs to be in CVS head before I'll implement. |
| 17:00.50 | ToughShooter | It is already in CVS, but I dunno whether it's in your used version |
| 17:01.59 | Nidhoggr | well, I can't use CVS until someone fixes the crash bug I reported with ADNS. |
| 17:03.43 | ToughShooter | Nidhoggr: The server that runs on secreplace has DEVEL in its version string, so it is a CVS build, I guess |
| 17:04.10 | Nidhoggr | yes, but the current CVS has a bug that causes the server to crash when compiled with ADNS support. |
| 17:04.16 | Nidhoggr | someone broke ADNS |
| 17:04.56 | ToughShooter | Problem is that I dunno whether it was already implemented with that build and CIA-stats page goes only back to February, 22nd |
| 17:05.01 | Nidhoggr | since I have to use ADNS, I have to wait to compile a new server. |
| 17:07.21 | Nidhoggr | :( |
| 17:07.47 | _Manu_ | Nidhoggr, can't you read in bzflag commit? http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?max_rows=25&style=ultimate&offset=25&forum_id=33513 |
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| 17:08.42 | Nidhoggr | I don't read the commits, manu, I have a bug case open, and if someone fixed it they need to use the bug system to inform that it's fixed. |
| 17:09.49 | _Manu_ | I'm only telling this because you told about only Feb 22 in CIA |
| 17:10.14 | Nidhoggr | no, ToughShooter told about only Feb 22 in CIA. |
| 17:10.22 | Nidhoggr | I said nothing of the sort. |
| 17:10.28 | _Manu_ | heh.. oh |
| 17:11.07 | ToughShooter | _Manu_ I said I can't look back when the polling permissions have been modified, only can look back until that date |
| 17:18.25 | _Manu_ | Nidhoggr, mmm i'm compiling with adns and no crash? :-/ |
| 17:18.59 | Nidhoggr | manu, I wasn't the only person who had the problem. it's possible someone fixed it but didn't update the bugs. |
| 17:19.35 | Nidhoggr | I'll test it shortly. I'm very busy at work right now. |
| 17:19.59 | _Manu_ | i have been testing the server since before you reported the bug.. and no crash for me |
| 17:20.11 | _Manu_ | perhaps.. libadns version dependant |
| 17:20.17 | Nidhoggr | possibly. |
| 17:21.58 | ToughShooter | Nidhoggr: I found when this permission stuff was added. It was at 2005-02-25 00:41, so it's not in the build you |
| 17:22.03 | ToughShooter | 're using |
| 17:22.25 | ToughShooter | I should get a better keyboard with a proper mapping :( |
| 17:23.13 | Grumbler | thats ok we recognize borked keyboards :) |
| 17:24.02 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 17:24.43 | ToughShooter | ~dict bork |
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| 17:25.47 | Nidhoggr | compiling with newest HEAD now. |
| 17:28.37 | Grumbler | !dict bork |
| 17:28.42 | guu | Grumbler: No definition for 'bork' could be found. |
| 17:28.50 | Grumbler | ~bork |
| 17:29.12 | Nidhoggr | "something the swedish chef says" |
| 17:29.13 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 17:29.16 | ToughShooter | Could it be this star trek thingy? |
| 17:29.24 | Grumbler | nope |
| 17:29.40 | Nidhoggr | bork is a slang for "broke" |
| 17:29.46 | Nidhoggr | or broken |
| 17:29.48 | ToughShooter | Yeah, I wondered why it wasn't written with g ;-) |
| 17:29.54 | Nidhoggr | heh |
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| 17:30.51 | Noodle-sensei | we are the bork. lower your shields and surrender your ships. resistance is futile. |
| 17:32.25 | JeffM2501 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bork_bork_bork |
| 17:32.50 | Grumbler | ibot bork is slang: broke, broken, fouled, tangled, twisted beyond repair. as in- George Bush really knows how to bork the english language. Grumbler borked the code again. |
| 17:32.52 | ibot | ACTION borks is slang: broke, broken, fouled, tangled, twisted beyond repair. as in- George Bush really knows how to bork the english language. Grumbler borked the code again. |
| 17:33.07 | Grumbler | ~bork |
| 17:33.29 | Grumbler | ah well, worth a shot |
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| 17:35.27 | Grumbler | hmm bork, borg, pork......pigs in space!!!! |
| 17:37.23 | JeffM2501 | and a moose |
| 17:43.46 | ToughShooter | I've now installed ADNS via darwinports but I still get the warning that ADNS seems not available on my system. How to fix that? |
| 17:43.57 | Tupone | rm config.cache |
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| 17:44.36 | ToughShooter | "No such file or directory" (I did a make distclean before I tried) |
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| 17:50.45 | orange | hmmm, I think there is still something weird with non-perm bans |
| 17:51.02 | orange | I had a 60-minute ban in place |
| 17:51.08 | orange | then I did a test 5-minute ban |
| 17:51.38 | orange | the 60-minute ban is now 729 minutes |
| 17:52.30 | orange | can anyone running a fairly new cvs bzfs (like yesterday) test? |
| 17:54.05 | _Manu_ | yesterday was fixed in cvs try a fresh one |
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| 17:59.36 | Tupone | hey DTRemenak, ciao |
| 17:59.42 | DTRemenak | hi Tupone |
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| 18:11.46 | Grumbler | 07 |
| 18:12.55 | ToughShooter | Hmm, I uninstalled ADNS which came from darwinports and fixed the compile issues with the original version I had and installed it but still no luck. |
| 18:13.14 | Tupone | have you removed config.cache? |
| 18:13.53 | ToughShooter | Yes |
| 18:14.10 | Tupone | can you pastebin the config.log |
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| 18:18.03 | ToughShooter | http://www.pastebin.com/249304 |
| 18:18.50 | Tupone | ld: table of contents for archive: /usr/local/lib/libadns.a is out of date; |
| 18:21.15 | ToughShooter | Well, how to fix it? |
| 18:22.54 | Tupone | can you "file /usr/local/lib/libadns.a" |
| 18:24.19 | ToughShooter | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:24.27 | cosmos | gas prc[3~ prices to rise 24 cents in next few days, up to 2.50 rise by next week |
| 18:24.55 | Tupone | it is the one you generate? I mean the time is correct |
| 18:27.09 | ToughShooter | Yes |
| 18:27.11 | bryjen | and I know where _my_ hands have been. where do _you think_ they were? |
| 18:27.12 | Tupone | Hardware Interface Module? |
| 18:27.19 | cosmos | 125 year old brazillian woman, now thats aging |
| 18:27.46 | Tupone | ranlib /usr/local/lib/libadns.a |
| 18:28.07 | Tupone | bryjen, is an HIM |
| 18:28.25 | Grumbler | you cant believe a woman ;) |
| 18:28.25 | Tupone | :) |
| 18:29.08 | Grumbler | bryjen< was having compiling bzfs.....got bork messages from the bzfs man page.......turned into a local permission problem, all well |
| 18:29.20 | Grumbler | err, having trouble |
| 18:29.21 | ToughShooter | Tupone: No output, but the file was deleted and recreated |
| 18:29.26 | cosmos | WILLIAMSBURG, Va. - Police arrested an 8-year-old boy who allegedly had a violent outburst in school, head-butting his teacher and kicking an assistant principal, when he was told he couldn't go outside to play with other students. |
| 18:29.26 | cosmos | The 4-foot pupil was led away from Rawls Byrd Elementary School in handcuffs Tuesday and charged with felony assault and attempted murder. He could face up to 15 years in state prison. |
| 18:29.49 | Tupone | try now to remove config.cache and ./configure again |
| 18:30.28 | ToughShooter | There is no config.cache... |
| 18:30.40 | wizart | hmm. anyone here who can start the ducati match server ? |
| 18:30.57 | Tupone | so configure again |
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| 18:31.21 | uidzero | I just upped my ram. :) |
| 18:31.27 | uidzero | real memory = 1073721344 (1023 MB) |
| 18:31.27 | uidzero | avail memory = 1036972032 (988 MB) |
| 18:32.08 | uidzero | ~bzquery bzflag.bsdhacker.org |
| 18:32.15 | ToughShooter | Works, but I don't know why :-/ |
| 18:32.20 | uidzero | Uhm |
| 18:32.34 | Tupone | ToughShooter: read what you pasted :) |
| 18:33.01 | Tupone | search adns |
| 18:33.17 | ToughShooter | I think ranlib fixed the problem |
| 18:33.28 | Tupone | basically your adns installation was not complete |
| 18:33.34 | ToughShooter | but thinking is not knowing ;-) |
| 18:33.43 | ToughShooter | ~Tupone++ |
| 18:34.05 | Tupone | to use a library, you need a toc, and ranlib build it |
| 18:34.14 | uidzero | bzflag keeps core dumpin. :| |
| 18:35.15 | ToughShooter | I have a hard time with that UNIX-stuff in the past, I was only doing ./configure;make;make install as it was in the README... |
| 18:35.32 | uidzero | ToughShooter: FreeBSD 5.3 ports. :) |
| 18:35.46 | uidzero | bzfs and bzadmin works great |
| 18:35.47 | uidzero | :) |
| 18:36.40 | Grumbler | ...well, works great except for that core dumping problem |
| 18:37.39 | uidzero | haha |
| 18:37.40 | uidzero | Yeah |
| 18:38.25 | uidzero | Remaking. |
| 18:38.26 | uidzero | :) |
| 18:38.33 | uidzero | Or reinstalling. |
| 18:45.14 | uidzero | Still dumpewd. |
| 18:45.49 | Grumbler | dump BSD and use a real OS like windows :) |
| 18:45.53 | Tupone | uidzero: put a debugger on, it should not dump |
| 18:45.55 | ruskie | rotfl |
| 18:49.25 | uidzero | Grumbler: Eh.. |
| 18:50.00 | Pimpinella | wizart: start?, u mean countdown? |
| 18:50.21 | Pimpinella | should be available for everyone i think |
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| 19:07.18 | Bobomonkey | <timriker> 70.58.86.44:5154 |
| 19:07.23 | Bobomonkey | hmmm |
| 19:09.33 | Tupone | Nidhoggr: adns does not crash to me :(. Can you provide a backtrace |
| 19:10.42 | Nidhoggr | I just compiled newest code and it's not crashing. I have to test more later. |
| 19:10.47 | Nidhoggr | I am very busy with work today. |
| 19:10.49 | Nidhoggr | :/ |
| 19:11.12 | Tupone | ok, |
| 19:11.19 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 19:11.29 | Tupone | np, I wanted just to help, but if it is ok :) |
| 19:11.52 | _Manu_ | I also told him adns is fine for me |
| 19:12.02 | Grumbler | .....well, you could look at that bzadmin compile issue if you have nothing to do right now... :) |
| 19:12.15 | Nidhoggr | I'll know more later. it was broken when MeBigFatGuy sent me a patch to track SportChick's jitter problem. |
| 19:12.23 | Bobomonkey | hey i need some help |
| 19:12.27 | Nidhoggr | but it shouldn't have been patch related. |
| 19:12.35 | Bobomonkey | i configured the game file but i cant figure out what to do from there |
| 19:12.38 | Bobomonkey | got the ip and all |
| 19:12.48 | _Manu_ | mmm perhaps is not adns |
| 19:12.51 | Tupone | Grumbler: waiting for beer |
| 19:12.52 | Nidhoggr | for setting up a server? |
| 19:12.55 | Bobomonkey | yea |
| 19:13.08 | Nidhoggr | have you ready the creating a server wiki page? |
| 19:13.10 | Nidhoggr | err read |
| 19:13.22 | Grumbler | Tupone, i will need an address and a legal waiver |
| 19:13.25 | Bobomonkey | um |
| 19:13.25 | Nidhoggr | if not, that might help you out. |
| 19:13.27 | Tupone | hehe |
| 19:13.30 | Bobomonkey | alright ty |
| 19:13.39 | Nidhoggr | let me find link for you |
| 19:13.51 | Nidhoggr | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer |
| 19:13.57 | Nidhoggr | that page is a great help. |
| 19:14.02 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 19:14.28 | _Manu_ | Creating? :) |
| 19:14.52 | JeffM2501 | there is also a post on the forums with some more info |
| 19:14.57 | Nidhoggr | Fiat BZcarnage! |
| 19:15.09 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 19:15.48 | Bobomonkey | kk |
| 19:16.38 | TimRiker | Bobomonkey: what was that? "<timriker> 70.58.86.44:5154" ? I didn't say that. or perhaps it was meant for Tupone and nick completion got you? |
| 19:18.40 | Bobomonkey | i was tryin to do teh bot thingy |
| 19:18.42 | Bobomonkey | nvm |
| 19:18.49 | Bobomonkey | to test it |
| 19:18.53 | Bobomonkey | yea just nvm |
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| 19:55.59 | Tupone | Grumbler: beer please |
| 19:56.09 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (configure.in include/SceneDatabase.h src/bzflag/Player.h): Build bzadmin without openGL |
| 19:56.30 | Tupone | :) |
| 19:56.43 | Grumbler | ~Tupone++ |
| 19:56.52 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery 70.58.86.44:5154 |
| 19:57.01 | DTRemenak | ~Tupone++ |
| 19:57.19 | Grumbler | hmm, i wonder if the config needs to be updated to enable bzadmin build |
| 19:57.32 | Tupone | a make will work |
| 19:57.55 | TimRiker | Tupone: ./configure will disable bzadmin if gl headers are not found. |
| 19:58.05 | Tupone | But I changed it |
| 19:58.13 | TimRiker | oh.. you patched it. duh. |
| 19:58.34 | Tupone | so a make work, because it rebuild the configure |
| 19:58.36 | Tupone | :) |
| 20:03.10 | Grumbler | sweet |
| 20:03.12 | Pimpinella | i thought about splitting PlayerAccessInfo into one base class and two chids, one for player data and one for group data, what do you think about it? |
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| 20:18.12 | Grumbler | ~Tupone++ |
| 20:18.21 | Tupone | :) |
| 20:18.33 | Tupone | ~karma |
| 20:18.33 | ibot | tupone has karma of 91 |
| 20:19.22 | Grumbler | ~bzflist |
| 20:19.48 | DTRemenak | still almost 50 1.10 servers |
| 20:20.42 | DTRemenak | or is that a playercount? |
| 20:20.48 | TimRiker | player count |
| 20:20.50 | Grumbler | player cout |
| 20:21.19 | Grumbler | here take my pointy hat with you |
| 20:21.36 | TimRiker | ooh! a pointy hat. /me tries it on for size. |
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| 20:27.14 | bz7830 | ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 20:27.40 | bz7830 | ~bzfquery 70.58.86.44:5154 |
| 20:28.10 | bz7830 | arg |
| 20:31.22 | DTRemenak | ~Tupone++ |
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| 20:39.55 | bz7830 | ~bzfquery 70.58.86.44:5154 |
| 20:40.39 | bz7830 | hmmm |
| 20:43.27 | jpa_ | problems? |
| 20:44.45 | bz7830 | yea |
| 20:44.51 | bz7830 | i cant seem to launch my server |
| 20:44.56 | bz7830 | makin me mad |
| 20:45.06 | jpa_ | what operating system? |
| 20:45.08 | bz7830 | ~bzfquery airialassault.game-host.org:51540 |
| 20:45.21 | bz7830 | windows xp |
| 20:45.28 | jpa_ | with service pack 2? |
| 20:45.35 | bz7830 | not sure |
| 20:45.41 | bz7830 | new at server stuff |
| 20:45.57 | jpa_ | can you connect to your own computer (from your own computer) |
| 20:46.17 | bz7830 | what do mean? |
| 20:46.36 | jpa_ | like, first put the server on and then see if you can connect to it with bzflag |
| 20:46.59 | bz7830 | oo |
| 20:47.23 | bz7830 | well i have all my files i just cant figure out how to put the "server on" exactly |
| 20:47.28 | bz7830 | and i got a dns |
| 20:47.42 | jpa_ | humm |
| 20:47.54 | jpa_ | so what are you doing now to try to get it on? |
| 20:48.22 | bz7830 | um i've checked over my conf file, rereadin all the bzflag website |
| 20:48.31 | bz7830 | hold up ill brb |
| 20:49.16 | bz7830 | alright back |
| 20:56.00 | bryjen | you start the server program bzfs.exe from a command window or a short-cut |
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| 21:00.19 | bz7830 | how do i shut down a server? |
| 21:01.16 | bz7830 | nvm |
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| 21:34.58 | bz3239 | ~bzfquery 70.58.86.44:5154 |
| 21:35.46 | jpa_ | (note that sp2 probably blocks bzfs and also that you have to turn windows firewall off) |
| 21:36.22 | Grumbler | who would run windows firewall? |
| 21:36.30 | jpa_ | why not? |
| 21:37.12 | JeffM2501 | cus it's a horible firewall |
| 21:37.20 | jpa_ | why so? |
| 21:37.21 | JeffM2501 | and there are better ways to protect yourself |
| 21:37.28 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't stop all things |
| 21:37.34 | jpa_ | works fine if you need no services |
| 21:37.43 | JeffM2501 | and can be bypassed by RPC calls |
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| 21:37.54 | JeffM2501 | it's kind of a false sense of security |
| 21:38.04 | JeffM2501 | I prefer the hardware nat |
| 21:38.05 | jpa_ | hm |
| 21:38.07 | alavista | jpa_: BzFlag works under WinXP+SP2 |
| 21:38.12 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 21:38.17 | jpa_ | i haven't heard that it is bypassable |
| 21:38.30 | jpa_ | alavista: humm, there was a bug submitted on sf.net |
| 21:38.39 | JeffM2501 | jpa_, just get a IE compoent in and it can bypass anything :) |
| 21:38.57 | jpa_ | JeffM2501: well, that applies for any firewall on windows |
| 21:39.20 | JeffM2501 | yeah all software firewalls are risky |
| 21:39.38 | JeffM2501 | why have software do it and take up CPU when there is dedicated hardware that can do it faster, cleaner, and better. |
| 21:39.43 | JeffM2501 | and often cheaper |
| 21:40.11 | jpa_ | well, software is ok, as long as it is not running on the same box that is to be protected |
| 21:40.36 | JeffM2501 | why waste a full PC on the job of a 35$ box :) |
| 21:40.42 | jpa_ | and a pentium-something box for firewall costs nothing compared to good hardware firewall |
| 21:41.16 | JeffM2501 | posibly, but often more error prone in my experience |
| 21:41.17 | jpa_ | umph, you have low prices where ever you live |
| 21:41.18 | orange | what if you replace the software on the $35 box? Is it still a hardware router or is it software now? |
| 21:41.25 | JeffM2501 | and require a lOT more experinece in seting them up |
| 21:41.40 | jpa_ | JeffM2501: smoothwall etc are your friends |
| 21:41.53 | JeffM2501 | my gigafast router works perfectly fine for me |
| 21:42.02 | jpa_ | cd in the drive and it is even easier than those cheap boxes |
| 21:42.08 | JeffM2501 | even updates a dynaDNS domain name when my IP cnages :) |
| 21:42.12 | orange | I'm thinking of the linksys with the sveasoft firmware |
| 21:42.19 | JeffM2501 | linksys must die |
| 21:42.27 | JeffM2501 | they make crap |
| 21:43.32 | jpa_ | what is good in your definition? |
| 21:43.54 | JeffM2501 | I;ve had good luck with 3com, dlink, and the gigafast |
| 21:44.02 | gina | stable, reliable, configurable |
| 21:44.03 | JeffM2501 | I've had a number of linksys devices fail me |
| 21:44.07 | orange | I've had bad luck with dlink myself |
| 21:44.07 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:44.14 | alavista | linksys + sveasoft is really cool. |
| 21:44.17 | JeffM2501 | I've had 1 dlink fail |
| 21:44.29 | jpa_ | the dlink firewall box i bought before i set up iptables broke after a year and some |
| 21:44.31 | JeffM2501 | I've had 3-4 linksys boxes die due to hardware. |
| 21:44.35 | Nidhoggr | I had bad luck with bz and linksys with more than 1 player on the NAT side. |
| 21:44.38 | alavista | if it fails, you go to customer support.. |
| 21:44.41 | JeffM2501 | they overheat |
| 21:45.01 | Nidhoggr | they also have poor UDP support for more than 1 computer. |
| 21:45.24 | alavista | when you use linksys+sveasoft, you can configure the power, from the default 20mW up to burning 250mW.. |
| 21:45.40 | JeffM2501 | yeah if you can redo the firmware in a linksys that would be better |
| 21:45.42 | orange | that's when they overheat :-) |
| 21:45.51 | JeffM2501 | but why bother? otehrs are cheaper and more configurable :) |
| 21:46.02 | orange | JeffM2501: the sveasoft firmware lets you ssh into it and change almost anything you want |
| 21:46.08 | orange | including qos, etc. |
| 21:46.11 | alavista | what about WDS, client mode, etc? |
| 21:46.22 | orange | I'm not running it, but I hear good things. It's on my todo list to play with. |
| 21:46.24 | jpa_ | and i hated that di-604.. it didn't keep up with the dhcp of my isp, but gave like 2 minutes network breaks every day, and it was not possible to specify port ranges etc |
| 21:46.27 | bz3239 | any1 wanna help me with my server problems? |
| 21:46.45 | orange | yes, I hated the di-604 |
| 21:46.55 | orange | gives me nightmares to think about it |
| 21:47.16 | Nidhoggr | what are your server problems bz3239 ? |
| 21:47.26 | bz3239 | uh i cant get it started is my problem |
| 21:47.30 | bz3239 | dont know whats wrong |
| 21:47.43 | Nidhoggr | what OS are you running? |
| 21:47.49 | bz3239 | windows xp |
| 21:47.59 | gina | argh |
| 21:48.03 | Nidhoggr | how are you trying to run it? |
| 21:48.15 | bz3239 | define how? |
| 21:48.23 | JeffM2501 | what are you doing to start it? |
| 21:48.26 | Nidhoggr | command line, from within bz, or what? |
| 21:48.46 | bz3239 | i can start it from within bz other than the pesky start server thing? |
| 21:48.49 | orchid | ~friday |
| 21:48.50 | ibot | Friday sucks, because it should be the weekend, but you're stuck working anyway. |
| 21:48.55 | gina | lol |
| 21:49.04 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:49.07 | gina | ~saturday |
| 21:49.08 | ibot | Saturday is the day that sucks the least! |
| 21:49.12 | JeffM2501 | that is the "in bz" thing |
| 21:49.21 | Nidhoggr | you don't want to use the in bz start server. |
| 21:49.22 | JeffM2501 | how are you trying to start the server? |
| 21:49.31 | JeffM2501 | you want to use the command line and a config file. |
| 21:49.41 | bz3239 | alright got the config file |
| 21:49.42 | JeffM2501 | that's the best way |
| 21:49.48 | bz3239 | what about the command line though? |
| 21:49.55 | JeffM2501 | you should use it |
| 21:50.05 | Nidhoggr | cd to the directory the bzfs.exe is in. |
| 21:50.12 | bz3239 | mmhmmm |
| 21:50.13 | Grumbler | -conf config.file |
| 21:50.17 | JeffM2501 | did you read the starting a server post? |
| 21:50.20 | bz3239 | yea |
| 21:50.21 | JeffM2501 | it has step by step |
| 21:50.28 | JeffM2501 | just follow those command line steps |
| 21:50.31 | Nidhoggr | he read the wiki |
| 21:50.31 | bz3239 | think is when i open bzfs.exe wont let me type |
| 21:50.37 | JeffM2501 | read the post |
| 21:50.41 | bz3239 | alright |
| 21:50.43 | Nidhoggr | you don't open bzfs.exe |
| 21:50.46 | JeffM2501 | bzfs don't let you type in it |
| 21:50.49 | JeffM2501 | it just runs |
| 21:50.53 | JeffM2501 | it's not interactive |
| 21:50.54 | bz3239 | ah |
| 21:50.58 | JeffM2501 | just don't close that window |
| 21:51.01 | Nidhoggr | you open a command window and then type bzfs.exe -conf config.file |
| 21:51.06 | bz3239 | alright |
| 21:51.11 | JeffM2501 | put -d 3 times in your config and you'll see the loging output |
| 21:51.11 | bz3239 | that explains it |
| 21:52.06 | alavista | someone should make a proper windows service for bzflag, then people will use Administrative tools to start/stop :) |
| 21:52.31 | bz3239 | hmmm |
| 21:52.44 | JeffM2501 | alavista, patches welcome |
| 21:52.47 | bz3239 | so the bzfs has to be running right? |
| 21:52.55 | Grumbler | of course, they could just edit the existing shortcuts and go from there |
| 21:52.56 | bz3239 | exe |
| 21:53.05 | JeffM2501 | bzfs has to run if you want a server yes |
| 21:53.12 | bz3239 | mmmhmmm |
| 21:53.33 | bz3239 | command prompt doesnt recoqnize it |
| 21:54.51 | bz3239 | i have a batch file but i dont know if thats the right thing |
| 21:57.20 | Nidhoggr | you may have to specify the complete path to bzfs. |
| 21:57.26 | Nidhoggr | in the command line |
| 21:58.03 | jpa_ | it is automatic |
| 21:58.24 | jpa_ | ie, it always has .\ first in path |
| 21:58.50 | poxy | Heh... I could play bzflag on the mini box without the video card crashing... |
| 21:58.55 | bz3239 | whenever i go the command promt it comes up with documents and settings |
| 21:59.14 | poxy | I also rebuilt my dri library |
| 21:59.31 | poxy | that was probably the reason why it was going haywire |
| 21:59.48 | bz3239 | should my config be in the bzflag folder or the data folder with in that? |
| 21:59.56 | JeffM2501 | dosn't mater |
| 22:00.12 | JeffM2501 | you tell it where the config is with the -config command line option |
| 22:00.23 | JeffM2501 | bzfs does not use the data dir |
| 22:00.39 | bz3239 | alright |
| 22:01.09 | bz3239 | where on the forum is this stuff? |
| 22:01.23 | bz3239 | well in the servers part |
| 22:02.15 | jpa_ | it is in the manual page? :) |
| 22:02.42 | jpa_ | or well, it is mostly shell usage you don't understand |
| 22:05.02 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 22:05.32 | bz3239 | whats cd stand for anyways? as u can tell im new at this |
| 22:05.38 | JeffM2501 | change directory |
| 22:05.40 | bz3239 | ah |
| 22:05.41 | JeffM2501 | read that post |
| 22:05.44 | JeffM2501 | it explains it |
| 22:05.46 | bz3239 | i have many times |
| 22:06.08 | JeffM2501 | then I guess you missed this line |
| 22:06.09 | JeffM2501 | "Once you have a terminal up you need to "change directories" to the location where your bzfs is. This is done on all OSs with the "cd" command. But before you can do the cd command you need to know where the server is on your hard disk. |
| 22:06.10 | JeffM2501 | " |
| 22:06.29 | bz3239 | ah |
| 22:07.22 | bz3239 | that explains it |
| 22:07.41 | JeffM2501 | yes, yes it does. |
| 22:07.43 | trepan_away | (int)many = ? |
| 22:08.18 | bz3239 | hmmm my system cant find that directory |
| 22:08.35 | JeffM2501 | then your not puting in the correct one |
| 22:08.42 | JeffM2501 | or your installed into a difrent dir |
| 22:08.53 | JeffM2501 | before you can run a server it's best if you know how to run your computer. |
| 22:08.54 | bz3239 | found it |
| 22:09.03 | bz3239 | it was added space |
| 22:10.27 | bz3239 | bad arguement? |
| 22:10.38 | *** join/#bzflag LouMan (~42e39a3f@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 22:10.57 | JeffM2501 | what are you typing? |
| 22:11.02 | bz3239 | hold up |
| 22:11.02 | JeffM2501 | we can't read your screen or your mind |
| 22:11.05 | bz3239 | lol |
| 22:11.53 | bz3239 | C:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.0\bzfs -conf myconfig.txt |
| 22:11.58 | bz3239 | \ |
| 22:12.27 | JeffM2501 | and you did a CD to that dir allready? |
| 22:12.34 | bz3239 | yea |
| 22:12.45 | JeffM2501 | what is the exact error? |
| 22:13.06 | bz3239 | hold up i gotta check somethin on it |
| 22:13.19 | LouMan | does anyone know how to make a server rotate maps or have a link that describes how? |
| 22:13.31 | JeffM2501 | bzfs does not rotate maps by itself |
| 22:13.47 | JeffM2501 | you must make a script for your OS that will start and stop the server each time |
| 22:13.58 | LouMan | k - thought so |
| 22:14.02 | JeffM2501 | search bzbb somone posted a unix shell script once I thought |
| 22:14.21 | LouMan | k - thx |
| 22:14.59 | bz3239 | should my config file be in conf form or txt? |
| 22:15.01 | orchid | set the server to run one game only, and then loop that command with a diff map basically |
| 22:15.20 | Chestal | you might want to use -g option which makes bzfs automatically exit after one 'game' |
| 22:15.20 | JeffM2501 | conf is text |
| 22:15.34 | JeffM2501 | the file extension dosn't mater |
| 22:15.46 | bz3239 | aite |
| 22:15.57 | Nidhoggr | ~dict aite |
| 22:16.16 | poxy | g++: OpenGL: No such file or directory |
| 22:16.16 | poxy | cc1plus: error: unrecognized command line option "-framework" |
| 22:16.19 | JeffM2501 | it's a term used by the youth of today to men alright |
| 22:16.25 | bz3239 | lol |
| 22:16.31 | Nidhoggr | hi poxy |
| 22:16.33 | bz3239 | heres the problem |
| 22:16.39 | JeffM2501 | they thing it makes them hip and edgy |
| 22:16.42 | *** part/#bzflag LouMan (~42e39a3f@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 22:16.45 | bz3239 | error: could not find bzflag configuration prblem |
| 22:16.48 | poxy | Nidhoggr: i rebuilt my radeon_dri.so and now i can bzflag just fine |
| 22:16.55 | Nidhoggr | yay! |
| 22:16.56 | bz3239 | but i got the ride directory and all |
| 22:17.03 | Nidhoggr | congratulations :) |
| 22:17.13 | poxy | Thanks... I guess the video card can handle running at 4.5V |
| 22:17.19 | JeffM2501 | bz3239, where is your config file? and what is it's exact name? |
| 22:17.24 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 22:18.05 | bz3239 | its located in teh bzflag2.0.0\myconfig.conf |
| 22:18.17 | JeffM2501 | ibot dict the |
| 22:18.26 | JeffM2501 | wow I can't even type the wrong |
| 22:18.33 | bz3239 | sry i meant the |
| 22:18.35 | JeffM2501 | and the command line your using is what? |
| 22:18.47 | bz3239 | i changed the directory |
| 22:19.02 | bz3239 | to the program files\bzflag2.0.0 |
| 22:19.04 | JeffM2501 | then bzfs -conf myconfig.conf ? |
| 22:19.07 | bz3239 | yea |
| 22:19.11 | TimRiker | ibot: dict teh |
| 22:19.15 | bz3239 | funny |
| 22:19.28 | bz3239 | ibot: dict dict |
| 22:19.32 | JeffM2501 | you sure the file isn't called myconfig.conf.txt and your hiding known extensions? |
| 22:19.38 | bz3239 | ill check |
| 22:19.58 | bz3239 | nope not that |
| 22:20.16 | *** join/#bzflag javaJake (~javaJake@c-24-60-92-231.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 22:20.22 | javaJake | ~seen redsoxfan90 |
| 22:20.24 | ibot | redsoxfan90 <Redsoxfan9@h000c6e3d2914.ne.client2.attbi.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 8d 38m 56s ago, saying: 'hey tim'. |
| 22:20.31 | JeffM2501 | then ether your not in the right dir, the file name isn't right, the command line isn't right, or the config is unable to be opened because it's locked, or allready open. |
| 22:20.41 | javaJake | *sigh* |
| 22:20.42 | bz3239 | ah |
| 22:20.43 | javaJake | bye all! |
| 22:20.46 | JeffM2501 | javaJake, what do you need him for? he's mostly just baned a lot |
| 22:20.46 | *** part/#bzflag javaJake (~javaJake@c-24-60-92-231.ne.client2.attbi.com) |
| 22:21.15 | Birdie | ouch he didnt liked to hear that |
| 22:21.35 | JeffM2501 | who? |
| 22:22.06 | Birdie | javake, to hear that redsox is mostly banned |
| 22:22.31 | JeffM2501 | ohh I'm sure he was on his way out anway |
| 22:22.36 | JeffM2501 | he never stays |
| 22:23.55 | bz3239 | could i just run a batch file through that? |
| 22:24.18 | JeffM2501 | yeah that's another way |
| 22:24.32 | JeffM2501 | there are many ways to run a server |
| 22:24.51 | bz3239 | so would the command line be like? |
| 22:24.57 | bz3239 | i meant what would |
| 22:24.58 | JeffM2501 | just like the config |
| 22:25.13 | JeffM2501 | just with out things on there own line ( all on one line ) |
| 22:25.16 | bz3239 | so replace the myconfig.txt with batch line |
| 22:25.26 | JeffM2501 | the config just feeds the options into the command line |
| 22:25.30 | JeffM2501 | bascly yeah |
| 22:25.40 | poxy | What is this -framework stuff in 1.10's configure? |
| 22:25.49 | JeffM2501 | poxy, it's for the mac |
| 22:25.50 | poxy | I think the configure thinks im running macosx, not freebsd |
| 22:26.07 | JeffM2501 | OSX has bsd bindings |
| 22:26.49 | bz3239 | keeps givin me a "bad argument" |
| 22:27.00 | JeffM2501 | bz3239, then you have a bad argument |
| 22:27.04 | bz3239 | then lists all the crape |
| 22:27.06 | bz3239 | crap* |
| 22:27.13 | JeffM2501 | yeah one of your args is bad |
| 22:27.18 | JeffM2501 | find it and fix it |
| 22:27.19 | bz3239 | args? |
| 22:27.26 | JeffM2501 | arguments |
| 22:27.29 | JeffM2501 | the -whatever |
| 22:27.29 | bz3239 | ah |
| 22:27.32 | bz3239 | alright |
| 22:30.36 | *** join/#bzflag USAPATRIOT (~0c9ef20c@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 22:31.00 | USAPATRIOT | yo |
| 22:31.29 | USAPATRIOT | goddamn |
| 22:31.54 | Birdie | omg |
| 22:31.57 | Birdie | not him again |
| 22:32.18 | poxy | heh... I have /usr/X11R6/include/GL/gl.h but ./configure wont find it... |
| 22:32.26 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!0c9ef20c@webchat.bzflag.bz] by purple_cow |
| 22:32.51 | poxy | heh..the ident is random... |
| 22:33.02 | poxy | plus, you banned his idented ident, not the unidented ident |
| 22:33.28 | purple_cow | huh? |
| 22:33.31 | Nidhoggr | poxy: the ident is not random. |
| 22:33.36 | Nidhoggr | it's a hex of the connecting ip. |
| 22:33.42 | purple_cow | that won't keep him out forever, but it will for a while |
| 22:33.49 | poxy | his mask is ~0c90...@webchat.... you banned *!0c9e... |
| 22:33.56 | Nidhoggr | aaah. |
| 22:34.05 | cosmos | hes protecting us from the arabs |
| 22:34.18 | Nidhoggr | I set him on /ignore yesterday. |
| 22:34.34 | poxy | heh... /me ponders why bzflag 1.10 doesnt compile |
| 22:34.46 | poxy | want a config.log? |
| 22:34.49 | *** join/#bzflag USAPATRIOT (~0c9ef20c@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 22:34.55 | USAPATRIOT | cmon guys |
| 22:35.01 | poxy | protect us from the arabs |
| 22:35.12 | USAPATRIOT | can you not see the dire urgency of our situation |
| 22:35.34 | USAPATRIOT | God has commanded his loyal troops to eradicate the forces of satan who are arabs |
| 22:35.35 | trepan | bzbrail |
| 22:35.52 | ruskie | who the fsck was that??? |
| 22:35.58 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b USAPATRIOT!*@*] by purple_cow |
| 22:35.59 | poxy | just give it up ruskie |
| 22:36.00 | Birdie | my god cant you ban him |
| 22:36.06 | Birdie | thx |
| 22:36.07 | ruskie | poxy? |
| 22:36.09 | Tupone | poxy: you should know. bzflag look at GL in /usr/include/GL :) |
| 22:36.17 | poxy | purple_cow: why not /ban *!*0c9ef20c@webchat.bzflag.bz |
| 22:36.24 | poxy | Tupone: let me show you the config.log then |
| 22:36.38 | Nidhoggr | he is connecting from bzchat and his regular connection. |
| 22:36.57 | poxy | http://bettagirl.com/~andy/config.log |
| 22:37.24 | poxy | oops that rats me out |
| 22:37.54 | Tupone | hehe |
| 22:38.04 | cosmos | ohh players on the new hepcat rings of fire :) |
| 22:38.40 | bz3239 | should i turn on the inertia part of the config file? |
| 22:39.20 | poxy | heh..checking for -lm shows X11E6/include |
| 22:39.32 | poxy | Tupone: is there some environment variable i can set? |
| 22:39.47 | ruskie | well the idea I have for a flag as a flag that when picked up and fired stops you still and launches a tiny remote controled tank which can do everything that a normal tank can do except pickup flags... and if the rc tank dies you can still continue but you are defendless while controling it /me waits for the flames |
| 22:39.53 | Tupone | CXXFLAGS ? |
| 22:40.12 | Tupone | why not doing a soft-link :) |
| 22:40.35 | trepan | ruskie: super marvellous idea, when will you have the patch written? |
| 22:40.38 | poxy | it's using /usr/X11R6/lib for the includes |
| 22:40.53 | ruskie | trepan, as soon as I learn to code... a few years perhaps... |
| 22:41.15 | Tupone | ln -sf /usr/X11R6/include/GL /usr/include/ |
| 22:41.22 | poxy | nasty |
| 22:41.26 | Tupone | lib ? |
| 22:42.28 | Tupone | make a soft-link, compile and then remove :) |
| 22:42.30 | cosmos | how come spoogebob isnt in the master ban |
| 22:42.39 | cosmos | he hit my new server almost immediately heh |
| 22:42.39 | *** join/#bzflag blast007 (~blast007@24-196-92-143.jvl.wi.charter.com) |
| 22:42.48 | ruskie | well I'm glad the idea wasn't shot down |
| 22:43.01 | JeffM2501 | cosmos, you have a single IP that works for him? |
| 22:43.11 | cosmos | of course not he uses a wide range |
| 22:43.32 | Tupone | poxy what about : CXXFLAGS=-I/usr/X11R6/include LDFLAGS=-L/usr/X11R6/lib ./configure |
| 22:43.34 | JeffM2501 | thats why we can't master ban |
| 22:43.36 | cosmos | most if not all ban those ranges anyhow it should be in the master ban |
| 22:43.51 | JeffM2501 | we can't masterban that many people |
| 22:43.58 | JeffM2501 | it's not fair to the potentail new users |
| 22:44.08 | JeffM2501 | to be baned on allmost all servers off the bat |
| 22:44.24 | cosmos | its not fair to the server owners to be suffered through hell |
| 22:44.25 | poxy | it still fails Tupone ... |
| 22:44.28 | JeffM2501 | now if you server reuquired global auth I could ban all his emails :) |
| 22:44.38 | Tupone | gimme the log |
| 22:44.42 | cosmos | he just changes them all anyhow |
| 22:44.51 | JeffM2501 | cosmos, sadly there is no perfect solution, the list server and master ban are for the end users, not the server ops |
| 22:45.09 | JeffM2501 | cosmos, but changing an email and reverifying a bzbb account takes a lot more time |
| 22:45.11 | cosmos | thats why a patch to automatically denial of service cheaters and spoogebob is needed |
| 22:45.12 | JeffM2501 | he may just give up |
| 22:45.31 | cosmos | :) |
| 22:45.33 | JeffM2501 | vigalante justice is not the way to go |
| 22:45.41 | JeffM2501 | your server require global auth? |
| 22:45.46 | cosmos | i suppose it could be time to require bzbb auth only |
| 22:45.57 | JeffM2501 | or do your own auth |
| 22:45.57 | cosmos | but i would suppose it would be a very low played server |
| 22:46.14 | cosmos | is that a config option jeff? |
| 22:46.28 | JeffM2501 | just don't have a local password file |
| 22:46.42 | cosmos | i dont |
| 22:46.43 | JeffM2501 | and put the spawn perm on the verified group |
| 22:46.45 | cosmos | just a local groups |
| 22:46.53 | JeffM2501 | then they have to auth to spawn |
| 22:46.57 | cosmos | im seeing none of my players are registered heh |
| 22:47.06 | poxy | Tupone: I was able to compile the test program manually |
| 22:47.07 | bryjen | cosmos, _you_ have control! Use your own -banfile ! :) |
| 22:47.14 | JeffM2501 | that too |
| 22:47.15 | cosmos | should put a notice for them to go register with bzbb |
| 22:47.23 | cosmos | then switch over in a month |
| 22:47.26 | Tupone | tried to remove config.cache? |
| 22:47.49 | poxy | didnt exist |
| 22:48.14 | cosmos | bryjen: id love a fully centralized solution :) |
| 22:48.29 | poxy | why? i bet you also like rfid chips in your teetyh |
| 22:48.34 | bryjen | use your own custom mastbanURL |
| 22:48.45 | cosmos | whats a teethy |
| 22:48.46 | bryjen | er, master even |
| 22:48.47 | uso | hi |
| 22:49.04 | poxy | tooth |
| 22:49.31 | cosmos | ahh no thanks. i support the assasination of bush not more of this religious administration |
| 22:49.36 | uso | cosmos: many people dont like such centralized things and resist |
| 22:49.44 | bryjen | arg. sorry. :( there is no -masterBanURL option :( |
| 22:49.51 | JeffM2501 | uso they have that option |
| 22:50.05 | JeffM2501 | they just also lose the services it provides |
| 22:50.10 | JeffM2501 | but to each there own |
| 22:50.11 | cosmos | many people have not dealt with a 24x7 server for too long. it aggrivates :) |
| 22:50.11 | poxy | Tupone: yay, X_LIBS seemed to work for me |
| 22:50.26 | uso | i know, it has two sides ;) |
| 22:50.27 | poxy | I have, and I prefer my trusted admins instead :P |
| 22:50.31 | cosmos | it was far easier when it ran on our sgi lan 10 years ago |
| 22:50.40 | JeffM2501 | cosmos, you mean the "joy" of having poeple tell you to 'get a job so you can run a server' ? :) |
| 22:51.03 | cosmos | jeff heh that and people threatening to take you out for banning |
| 22:51.17 | JeffM2501 | nature of humans on the net |
| 22:51.21 | JeffM2501 | same on bzbb |
| 22:51.44 | JeffM2501 | everyone aserts that they are right |
| 22:52.00 | bryjen | it must be awful lonely on the left |
| 22:52.08 | cosmos | heh |
| 22:52.19 | JeffM2501 | there were a couple times when I was just going to shut it down, cus it wasn't worth the troube |
| 22:52.35 | JeffM2501 | lefies unite! |
| 22:52.39 | cosmos | ive done so twice jeff. its why silver runs my pillbox and overlord servers |
| 22:52.46 | bryjen | dyslexics untie! |
| 22:52.55 | cosmos | when i started getting actual denial of service attacks |
| 22:53.02 | bz3239 | what is the difference between use public list server and public address? |
| 22:53.09 | JeffM2501 | I cam back only due to request. |
| 22:53.39 | JeffM2501 | bz3239, the public list server is the server that lists you, the public address is the address of YOUR server the list shoud use so that people can get to you. |
| 22:53.55 | JeffM2501 | you don't have to set a public list server |
| 22:53.57 | JeffM2501 | there is a default |
| 22:53.59 | Chestal | I wonder how bad it must be for people running Quake servers (or whatever is currently popular) |
| 22:54.02 | bz3239 | alright |
| 22:54.04 | bryjen | -publiclist foo tells it where to find the list server (you shouldn't need to, the default is OK) -publicaddr 1.2.3.4 gives it you're public IP addr in case it couldn't figure it out |
| 22:54.08 | JeffM2501 | if you server has a domain name thne set your public address as that. |
| 22:54.41 | bz3239 | and listen on interface is my ip? |
| 22:54.46 | JeffM2501 | you don't need it |
| 22:54.50 | JeffM2501 | you don't need all options |
| 22:54.54 | JeffM2501 | there are defaults for all of them |
| 22:55.05 | bz3239 | ah ok |
| 22:55.25 | JeffM2501 | for a public server the minimum that you need is just -public "some description" |
| 22:55.27 | JeffM2501 | that's it |
| 22:55.34 | JeffM2501 | the rest will default |
| 22:55.37 | poxy | jitter seems worse on my bz2 servers more than my bz1.10 |
| 22:56.16 | JeffM2501 | that was brought up, some changes were made in 2.0.1 that seem to help it |
| 22:56.19 | bz3239 | still dosn |
| 22:56.24 | bz3239 | t want to work |
| 22:56.31 | poxy | I wish bzadmin 2 was bz1 compatable |
| 22:56.32 | JeffM2501 | start with just the minum commands |
| 22:56.46 | uso | poxy: i too |
| 22:56.56 | JeffM2501 | I wish I was maried to a leggy readhead with glasses |
| 22:57.00 | uso | how do u measure jitter? |
| 22:57.02 | JeffM2501 | but we all don't get what we wish for |
| 22:57.08 | JeffM2501 | with /lagstats |
| 22:57.09 | bz3239 | kk |
| 22:59.07 | orchid | :) |
| 22:59.29 | uso | JeffM2501: but then you need a reference player or how do you differ between server and user side? |
| 22:59.52 | JeffM2501 | uso, you don't |
| 23:00.02 | JeffM2501 | it all adds up to the same lag anyway |
| 23:00.41 | bz3239 | when i got to my batch file it says "bad arguement 'define'" |
| 23:00.49 | bz3239 | any clues? |
| 23:00.57 | JeffM2501 | define isn't a valid command |
| 23:01.05 | JeffM2501 | what line has the world define? |
| 23:01.48 | bz3239 | its in the batch file after C:\program files\bzflag2.0.0\myconfig.txt |
| 23:03.34 | bz3239 | @echo off |
| 23:03.34 | bz3239 | set BZFSPROGRAM="C:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.0\bzfs.exe" |
| 23:03.35 | bz3239 | set CONFIGFILE="C:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.0\myconfig.conf" |
| 23:03.37 | bz3239 | REM ***** Don't change anything below this line! ***** |
| 23:03.41 | bz3239 | @echo on |
| 23:03.44 | bz3239 | %BZFSPROGRAM% -conf %CONFIGFILE% |
| 23:03.48 | bz3239 | pause |
| 23:03.51 | bz3239 | thats my batch file |
| 23:06.52 | bz3239 | hmmmm |
| 23:08.49 | poxy | what's up, the udp loop doesnt use select? |
| 23:09.10 | Chestal | bz3239: maybe the blank can be a problem? I am not familiar with windows batch language |
| 23:10.16 | bz3239 | what blank? |
| 23:11.52 | Tupone | myconfig.conf <<< Is there some define inside ? |
| 23:12.12 | bz3239 | well theres stuff in there but what do you mean define? |
| 23:12.22 | Tupone | the word "define" |
| 23:12.33 | bz3239 | let me look |
| 23:13.01 | bz3239 | yea but only on the server message |
| 23:14.06 | blast007 | are there quotes around the message? |
| 23:14.10 | Noodle-sensei | chocolate pwns j00 |
| 23:14.18 | bz3239 | yea |
| 23:14.46 | bz3239 | -i is what again? |
| 23:15.13 | Tupone | bz3239: don't use -i unless you are in a natted area |
| 23:15.27 | bz3239 | that might have been the problem |
| 23:15.54 | Tupone | the problem is near the "define" seems. |
| 23:16.12 | bz3239 | hmmm |
| 23:16.36 | Tupone | ~pastebin |
| 23:16.37 | ibot | hmm... pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 23:17.07 | Tupone | bz3239: paste your config file there |
| 23:17.11 | bz3239 | alright |
| 23:17.13 | Tupone | not here :) |
| 23:17.34 | bz3239 | ill paste it in 5 mins or so gettin rid of all the stuff that tells me what to do |
| 23:18.09 | Tupone | be sure to paste what you really tested |
| 23:18.30 | bz3239 | yea there it is |
| 23:18.55 | bz3239 | under the name im using now |
| 23:19.05 | bz3239 | bz3239config file |
| 23:19.48 | bryjen | lines 19 & 20 should start with # |
| 23:19.50 | Tupone | Define a message which ..... |
| 23:19.53 | bryjen | they are comments |
| 23:20.06 | bz3239 | ah that might have been the problem |
| 23:22.27 | bz3239 | im changin the password though |
| 23:24.03 | bryjen | probly a good idea :) |
| 23:24.38 | bz3239 | yea |
| 23:27.29 | bz3239 | any1 else spot anything? |
| 23:30.48 | Tupone | bz3239: does it run now ? |
| 23:30.51 | JeffM2501 | the macro in the bat is stupid IMHO, a simple bat is better |
| 23:31.43 | bz3239 | nope |
| 23:31.51 | bz3239 | let me try again |
| 23:32.05 | Tupone | does it give some error? |
| 23:33.05 | bz3239 | yea |
| 23:33.10 | *** join/#bzflag brad2901 (brad2901@ACD69A0F.ipt.aol.com) |
| 23:33.38 | bz3239 | says it cant find the file but ive checked that like a hundred times |
| 23:33.57 | bz3239 | and if i run the batch it says arguement |
| 23:34.37 | Tupone | C:\Documents and Settings\Spencer\My Documents\bzflag stuff\BZFlag2.0.0\data\banfile.txt |
| 23:34.45 | Tupone | you have this file? |
| 23:34.49 | bz3239 | yea |
| 23:35.08 | bz3239 | hmmm wait |
| 23:35.10 | *** join/#bzflag M1 (~M1@xiangfan.cs.uiuc.edu) |
| 23:35.19 | bz3239 | i just realized somethin |
| 23:35.57 | Tupone | -world ":\Documents and Settings\Spencer\My Documents\My BZFlag Files\worlds\Planet 2.bzw" |
| 23:37.24 | bz3239 | mmhmm |
| 23:38.06 | Tupone | you have to put a C I guess |
| 23:38.16 | bz3239 | lol i saw that |
| 23:39.04 | bz3239 | still cant find the stupid config file though |
| 23:39.15 | poxy | ugh why is the pass displayed in the message window if the login fails? |
| 23:39.22 | poxy | it seems...insecure :P |
| 23:40.23 | Tupone | well, it is. That reminds that you do not have to put there a password used for online banking |
| 23:40.51 | Tupone | choose another one |
| 23:41.42 | bz3239 | lol |
| 23:42.30 | bz3239 | should i have the udp on or off? |
| 23:42.30 | Tupone | bz3239: that gives some other error? |
| 23:44.00 | poxy | you want udp on |
| 23:44.07 | bz3239 | thought so |
| 23:44.29 | poxy | Tupone: are you pretty familiar with how the maps work? |
| 23:44.57 | Tupone | how you can do? nope |
| 23:45.12 | poxy | huh? |
| 23:45.15 | Tupone | how do you want to transfer, yes |
| 23:45.23 | *** join/#bzflag SportChick (~SportChic@ca-redbch-cuda1-c5b-b-192.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 23:45.47 | poxy | Each bzflag version that comes out, my map needs to be adjusted...more specifically, the center teleporter doesnt allow access... |
| 23:46.13 | Tupone | teleporter, try to move something higher, lower |
| 23:46.15 | poxy | from the middle teleporter in the I-shaped line of three teleporters |
| 23:46.32 | Tupone | move the height of that |
| 23:46.34 | poxy | I could redesign the middle thingy :) but that's not easy |
| 23:46.56 | Tupone | only the z of the teleporter, not the platform where is |
| 23:47.06 | poxy | its in a very tight spot |
| 23:47.18 | Tupone | hi SportChick |
| 23:49.30 | poxy | actually i cant really move it... its exactly inbetween two platforms...kinda...heh |
| 23:49.46 | poxy | what used to happen is the teleporter was inside the higher platform, and it would allow the tank to drop down |
| 23:49.59 | bz3239 | holy crap |
| 23:50.09 | poxy | that was 1.10.4...1.10.6 forced me to have the teleporter lower... and now bz2 will probably make me have to redesign the middle box |
| 23:50.12 | bz3239 | it isn't working |
| 23:50.27 | bz3239 | spent all day on this god damn it |
| 23:51.13 | Tupone | bz3239: instead of ... can you post the error |
| 23:51.25 | poxy | http://pastebin.dyndns.org/ is the perfectly place to post |
| 23:51.41 | bz3239 | all right |
| 23:54.42 | bz3239 | there |
| 23:55.13 | poxy | now post us the url it gave back to you when you hit submit |
| 23:55.33 | poxy | Does the new bzflag code check for proper tank height clearance now? |
| 23:55.48 | blast007 | bz3239: why is there a \ after the .bat and .conf ? |
| 23:56.05 | bz3239 | http://pastebin.dyndns.org/87 |
| 23:56.49 | bz3239 | still doesnt work with out the \ |
| 23:57.14 | blast007 | hmm, and you should directly run the bat file...not run bzfs with the bat file passed as a paramater |
| 23:57.46 | bz3239 | when i run the bat file it says press any key to continue then closes that window |
| 23:58.15 | *** join/#bzflag LordBrocktree (~43a41b63@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 23:58.18 | bz3239 | should i remove the pause part from it? |
| 23:58.28 | blast007 | if you don't have it already, add this to your conf file: -d -d -d |
| 23:59.26 | bz3239 | have it |
| 23:59.27 | bz3239 | http://pastebin.dyndns.org/88 |
