| 00:41.57 | *** join/#bzflag bzflagwiz (~wiz@12-217-167-129.client.mchsi.com) |
| 00:42.00 | orchid | :) your allowed to TLAK |
| 00:43.49 | TimRiker | so 2.0.2 anyone? this weekend perhaps? |
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| 00:45.35 | *** topic/#bzflag by TimRiker -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download |
| 00:47.20 | DTRemenak | TimRiker: sounds good to me |
| 00:49.11 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, I made sc a new build last night |
| 00:49.18 | JeffM2501 | dono if it did anything |
| 00:49.25 | bzflagwiz | I don't know the status of everything going into 2.0.2, but I think this weekend sounds good too :) |
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| 00:54.18 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: hows the G3D coming? does it look like anything yet? |
| 00:54.30 | JeffM2501 | it's got a nice black window |
| 00:54.44 | TimRiker | ooh! when I can download that!?! |
| 00:55.10 | JeffM2501 | www.blackwindowsforeveryone.com |
| 00:55.33 | TimRiker | are you planning net compatibility or not? |
| 00:55.39 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 00:55.52 | JeffM2501 | it's not just a client |
| 00:56.08 | TimRiker | [code=DNS_HOST_NOT_FOUND] The host name was not found during the DNS lookup. Contact your system administrator if the problem is not found by retrying the URL. |
| 00:56.11 | JeffM2501 | there is info int ehr eadme |
| 00:56.22 | JeffM2501 | hmm list server must be down then :) |
| 00:58.18 | TimRiker | just didn't know what to read into the "This project will not aim at being 100% network compatble with the baseline bzflag." which, by the way, is BZFlag, not bzflag. ;-) |
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| 00:58.32 | BZFlagServer | #server::add |
| 00:58.40 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 00:58.45 | JeffM2501 | well you know me and spelling |
| 00:58.51 | TimRiker | =) |
| 00:59.19 | JeffM2501 | well at least the server is geting on the net |
| 00:59.35 | TimRiker | we talked about passing the world files over the net instead of having two formats. that works for me, but obviously would happen after 2.0.x |
| 01:00.07 | JeffM2501 | puting a parser in the client woudl make that a lot easyer |
| 01:00.47 | TimRiker | server and client should use the same parser. not everything is relavant to both, but close enough. |
| 01:01.11 | TimRiker | ie: world weapons are run server side, or each client would have different timings. ;-/ |
| 01:01.31 | TimRiker | but the info should get sent down to the client IMHO and is not now. |
| 01:01.39 | JeffM2501 | not having a consistent time synch limits what the game can do over the net |
| 01:01.48 | JeffM2501 | same problem with moving objects |
| 01:02.53 | TimRiker | well, headed home. cya. |
| 01:02.59 | JeffM2501 | have fun |
| 01:04.43 | bzflagwiz | Has there been any talk of having world files served from somewhere other than the game server? For people hosting a complex map on a DSL connection, there is a huge hiccup in gameplay when someone new joins. |
| 01:05.56 | DTRemenak | bzflagwiz: use bzfs -cacheout and bzfs -cache |
| 01:06.25 | DTRemenak | post the outputted cache file on a webserver and point -cache to it. clients which are using libcurl will pull the world from the http cache |
| 01:07.10 | bzflagwiz | DTRemenak - cool - that would be a good sticky to put up on the forums |
| 01:09.18 | bzflagwiz | DTRemenak - Forgive me if it's in the docs, but do I just add "-cacheout filename" to my bzfs command line to create the cache file? |
| 01:09.32 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 01:09.43 | bzflagwiz | thanks |
| 01:09.45 | DTRemenak | then upload filename to your webserver |
| 01:14.40 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (7 files in 6 dirs): use libIRC to get game server loged into a list server channel |
| 01:16.00 | JeffM2501 | now what woudl a good name for the mini apps that deal with list serving, user auth, and all that be? |
| 01:16.22 | JeffM2501 | admin? |
| 01:17.58 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/readme: spelling changes per "teh man" |
| 01:18.06 | orchid | :) |
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| 01:23.59 | MeBigFatGuy | ok, thats it, i'm contributing a spell checker to visual studio |
| 01:26.26 | JeffM2501 | you can contribute to VS? |
| 01:26.40 | MeBigFatGuy | just kiddin'... reading your code comments :) |
| 01:26.48 | JeffM2501 | they horible |
| 01:26.56 | JeffM2501 | Grok type guud |
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| 01:30.20 | *** join/#bzflag BZBot (~ListServe@users.gibbscam.com) |
| 01:30.21 | BZBot | whoa.... |
| 01:31.14 | JeffM2501 | BZBot, factoidlist |
| 01:31.15 | BZBot | Current factoids; listnick lobbychannel |
| 01:31.26 | JeffM2501 | BZBot, lobbychannel |
| 01:31.27 | BZBot | lobbychannel is #bzflag |
| 01:31.48 | JeffM2501 | BZBot, listnick |
| 01:31.49 | BZBot | listnick is BZBot |
| 01:32.15 | mdw_away | did we just witness a birth? |
| 01:32.19 | JeffM2501 | BZBot, part |
| 01:32.19 | BZBot | Ok, JeffM2501 |
| 01:32.19 | *** part/#bzflag BZBot (~ListServe@users.gibbscam.com) |
| 01:37.35 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/internet/irc/listbot/ (5 files in 3 dirs): basic list server bot, should probably be remade into something in python or some other scripting language |
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| 02:09.24 | Grumbler | ~bzflist |
| 02:10.26 | Grumbler | JeffM2501< the SC build still has her jittery |
| 02:16.00 | JeffM2501 | :( |
| 02:16.07 | JeffM2501 | dono what else to do |
| 02:20.51 | sgk284 | if you can't beat em', join em' and do the jitter bug (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jitterbug) |
| 02:24.18 | *** join/#bzflag BZBot (~ListServe@users.gibbscam.com) |
| 02:24.19 | BZBot | whoa.... |
| 02:26.19 | *** join/#bzflag BZFlagServer (~BZFlagSer@users.gibbscam.com) |
| 02:26.19 | BZFlagServer | #server add |
| 02:26.53 | JeffM2501 | #server add |
| 02:27.14 | JeffM2501 | BZBot server add |
| 02:28.16 | JeffM2501 | BZBot server add |
| 02:30.12 | *** join/#bzflag BZBot (~ListServe@users.gibbscam.com) |
| 02:30.13 | BZBot | whoa.... |
| 02:30.18 | JeffM2501 | BZBot server add |
| 02:33.49 | *** join/#bzflag BZBot (~ListServe@users.gibbscam.com) |
| 02:33.50 | BZBot | whoa.... |
| 02:34.01 | JeffM2501 | #server add |
| 02:35.49 | *** join/#bzflag BZBot (~ListServe@users.gibbscam.com) |
| 02:35.50 | BZBot | whoa.... |
| 02:35.58 | JeffM2501 | #server add |
| 02:36.03 | BZBot | huh? |
| 02:37.45 | *** join/#bzflag BZBot (~ListServe@users.gibbscam.com) |
| 02:37.46 | BZBot | whoa.... |
| 02:37.55 | JeffM2501 | # server add |
| 02:38.18 | *** join/#bzflag LouMan (~42e39a3f@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 02:38.34 | BZBot | Added server JeffM2501 to chan |
| 02:39.20 | uidzero | Whoa.... |
| 02:39.39 | LouMan | msg SportChick have u had a chance to try your group rights to see if it works? |
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| 02:43.45 | BZBot | whoa.... |
| 02:44.29 | *** part/#bzflag LouMan (~42e39a3f@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 02:44.41 | BZBot | Added server some_server to chan some_servertest |
| 02:48.34 | *** join/#bzflag BZBot (~ListServe@users.gibbscam.com) |
| 02:48.38 | BZBot | whoa.... |
| 02:49.57 | BZBot | Added server some_server to chan some_servertest |
| 02:52.05 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (6 files in 5 dirs): game server and list server bot negotiaion |
| 02:59.16 | *** join/#bzflag buffaloe (~18d66489@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 03:00.08 | buffaloe | can someone tell me how to boot somebody from my bz server |
| 03:00.48 | buffaloe | i have a guy who has been nr for about an hour |
| 03:01.57 | brlcad | did you set a server password? |
| 03:02.08 | buffaloe | yes |
| 03:02.28 | brlcad | then /password it and /kick them |
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| 03:06.05 | MeBigFatGuy | wow, here's a small oversite 'bug' |
| 03:06.20 | MeBigFatGuy | when you poll ban a player, he gets banned, but none of his bots do |
| 03:06.42 | brlcad | bug? what'd they ever do wrong? :) |
| 03:06.49 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 03:07.01 | MeBigFatGuy | i suppose eventually they'll get kicked for idling |
| 03:07.34 | brlcad | they're supposed to all get kicked when one of them is kicked |
| 03:08.15 | brlcad | wonder if that somehow doesn't apply to the ban-based kicks |
| 03:12.37 | MeBigFatGuy | a bot wasn't kicked |
| 03:12.40 | MeBigFatGuy | the original was |
| 03:13.10 | brlcad | i know, but you'd think that would cause everyone to get booted just like if a bot had been kicked |
| 03:13.43 | brlcad | though it's never been clear to me that the latter was exactly ever intentional .. :) |
| 03:15.51 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 03:17.33 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzeditw32/ (14 files in 3 dirs): |
| 03:17.33 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: Commit some bzedit changes that have been languishing in my tree for a while |
| 03:17.33 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: Add missing VC7.1 project files for the libs |
| 03:17.33 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: Cleanly compile on VC7.1 |
| 03:17.33 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: Avoid crashing in some situation that I can't remember anymore |
| 03:17.33 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: Correct URLs in About dialog |
| 03:18.54 | creeperz | bzedit is getting updated to edit 2.0 maps? |
| 03:19.01 | DTRemenak | NO! |
| 03:19.10 | brlcad | heh |
| 03:19.12 | Grumbler | NO! |
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| 03:19.37 | creeperz | what all is happening to bzedit then? |
| 03:19.38 | DTRemenak | there were old patches in my tree, so I committed them. Has nothing to do with 2.0. |
| 03:19.44 | creeperz | oh |
| 03:19.45 | creeperz | alright |
| 03:20.11 | Grumbler | !lart DTRemenak for causing confusion |
| 03:20.28 | brlcad | build up his hopes and then smash them down like whack-a-mole |
| 03:20.57 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 03:22.32 | Grumbler | wow, irc lag is almost up to a second |
| 03:22.48 | creeperz | wow |
| 03:23.08 | DTRemenak | Grumbler: I get a ping from you in 0.39 secs |
| 03:23.38 | creeperz | .8 here |
| 03:24.05 | Grumbler | must be the government tracking my connection again |
| 03:24.09 | DTRemenak | .89 from me to creeperz, that laggy SOB |
| 03:24.14 | creeperz | lol |
| 03:24.33 | Grumbler | you make one little donation to a small arab group and it screws with your lag |
| 03:24.38 | creeperz | i have very crappy cable lines |
| 03:24.39 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 03:24.42 | creeperz | need to get them replaced |
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| 03:25.00 | creeperz | gunan run over them with my lawn mower next summer and then get my cable company to replavce them >< |
| 03:25.06 | creeperz | replace* |
| 03:25.31 | creeperz | hm |
| 03:25.39 | creeperz | theyre stapled to the house... |
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| 03:25.44 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 03:25.46 | creeperz | looks like i'll need a weed0eater |
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| 03:28.01 | Yoda | what are we talking about? |
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| 03:28.51 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net |
| 03:46.24 | Legoguy | how often does the list server's dns update...... |
| 03:46.58 | Legoguy | because i just renwed the domain name to my server, and it works here, but the list can't seem to find it |
| 03:47.13 | Legoguy | i mean, the global login and listserver |
| 03:47.24 | Legoguy | it's been about an hour since i renewed it |
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| 03:49.51 | brlcad | ~dict spying |
| 03:53.54 | *** join/#bzflag Mr_Molez (~admin@ACC9BAE3.ipt.aol.com) |
| 03:54.34 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzeditw32/BZEdit32/world.cpp: error instead of crashing when running into objects we don't know about |
| 03:58.18 | bryjen | ~dict furtive |
| 04:02.04 | Grumbler | brlcad , bryjen what, you know something i dont |
| 04:02.47 | Grumbler | Legoguy< it depends on how it takes for the dns stuff to propagate around the system.....should be good in a day....maybe a couple hours |
| 04:18.55 | orchid | grr |
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| 04:23.22 | brlcad | Grumbler: it's highly likely :) as do you to me |
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| 04:24.53 | sgk284 | err does anyone know if cvs is broken? bzflag cant pick up any hosts or the list :/ |
| 04:25.08 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 04:25.45 | sgk284 | brlcad, i know there are servers running, just curious if anyone else is having trouble connecting to them with a recent cvs :/ |
| 04:26.04 | sgk284 | wondering if its my puter or bzflag |
| 04:29.18 | brlcad | can you reach the list server manually? |
| 04:29.24 | sgk284 | yep |
| 04:29.31 | sgk284 | browser works fine |
| 04:29.50 | brlcad | so something recent it sounds |
| 04:30.38 | sgk284 | come to think of it... i recently started running 2.6.10, so it could be either... although its wierd that its only bzflag that doesnt work |
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| 04:31.47 | wegstar | was libcurl implemented in version 2.0.0 of bzflag? |
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| 04:32.00 | sgk284 | wegstar, yes |
| 04:32.11 | sgk284 | err it may have been in there earlier, but i may be thinking of 1.11 |
| 04:32.24 | buffaloe | can somebody tell me how to do commands with the server |
| 04:32.31 | sgk284 | dont think 1.10 used it (someone correct me if i'm wrong) |
| 04:32.42 | wegstar | ok.. |
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| 04:32.50 | blast007 | 1.11 was the first to use libcurl |
| 04:33.47 | wegstar | anyway... "someone" had troubles starting a server.... apprently the use of -public and -publicaddr generated an error message something about libcurl... |
| 04:33.53 | blast007 | buffaloe: http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/ServerCommands |
| 04:34.04 | wegstar | windows |
| 04:34.44 | sgk284 | last time i touched any code using libcurl (i think it was doing something with trepan), we realized how finicky lib curl is even amongst minor versions :/ |
| 04:34.47 | blast007 | they might have built with an SSL version of libcurl, but didn't have the right DLL for SSL (OpenSSL?) |
| 04:34.50 | sgk284 | but its quality:) |
| 04:35.09 | wegstar | hmm... |
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| 04:35.22 | sgk284 | wegstar, i'd make sure its up to date and he has everything that is required |
| 04:35.25 | blast007 | the current dev library on the curl site is only there as an SSL version |
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| 04:35.34 | blast007 | for windows, that is |
| 04:36.19 | wegstar | "he" used the installer... |
| 04:36.45 | blast007 | still, could have been missing a/the DLL |
| 04:37.18 | blast007 | the exact error message would be of more help |
| 04:38.22 | wegstar | ok.. waiting on person... |
| 04:39.11 | wegstar | here .. http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3159 |
| 04:42.25 | blast007 | hmm |
| 04:43.25 | jpa_ | ~weather EFTU |
| 04:43.45 | blast007 | never saw that error before |
| 04:43.59 | wegstar | :) |
| 04:45.01 | bryjen | null should mean no error, right? ;) |
| 04:45.26 | DTRemenak | what version of bzflag is he using? 2.0.0 or one of Jeff's 2.0.1 builds? |
| 04:45.42 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03bzgirl * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/commands.cxx: |
| 04:45.42 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: Let the muted player know he/she's been |
| 04:45.42 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: muted/unmuted and by whom |
| 04:45.45 | DTRemenak | Jeff and I used different libcurls |
| 04:45.46 | blast007 | judging by the directory, it looks like 2.0.0 |
| 04:45.54 | wegstar | 2.0.0 and 2.0.1 same error message he had said... |
| 04:46.04 | DTRemenak | alright, thanks |
| 04:46.06 | bryjen | and, sgk284, just updated and built cvs client gets a list OK for me |
| 04:46.13 | wegstar | err... |
| 04:47.35 | bryjen | do the 2.0.1 builds use the .1 on the dir name? |
| 04:47.40 | sgk284 | bryjen, thanks |
| 04:48.20 | DTRemenak | bryjen: they should, but they might not |
| 04:48.29 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzeditw32/BZEdit32/ (objects.cpp objects.h world.cpp world.h): |
| 04:48.29 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: Ignore World, Options, DynamicColor, Material, and TextureMatrix blocks in |
| 04:48.29 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: worldfiles. This lets bzedit load files that were saved from a 2.0 client, but |
| 04:48.29 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: don't otherwise use any 2.0 features...e.g. 1.10 maps running on a 2.0 server. |
| 04:49.38 | wegstar | wait.. I'll have him come personally here to talk about it... |
| 04:50.23 | blast007 | hmm, where it's printing LIBCURL: (null), that is supposed to show the version: |
| 04:50.25 | blast007 | DEBUG1("LIBCURL: %s\n", curl_version()); |
| 04:50.31 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 04:50.42 | DTRemenak | niiice |
| 04:50.46 | blast007 | from URLManager.cxx |
| 04:51.41 | brlcad | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:51.48 | DTRemenak | brlcad: probably not |
| 04:51.58 | bryjen | !lart brlcad for DTRemenak |
| 04:52.23 | DTRemenak | brlcad: there was a joke? |
| 04:53.36 | brlcad | bryjen: dust bunnies |
| 04:54.32 | blast007 | hehehe, compiling really eats my batteries ;) |
| 04:56.05 | bryjen | configure date seems more useless than make date, but what's really wanted is probly cvs checkout/update date |
| 04:56.31 | sgk284 | DTRemenak, you been working on it? |
| 04:56.33 | wegstar | :) oh joy... |
| 04:56.33 | *** join/#bzflag vircuser (~vircuser@cpe-67-10-210-195.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 04:56.46 | wegstar | hi .. err spldart |
| 04:56.52 | DTRemenak | sgk284: yeah. had problems loading files. specifically, it crashed all the time. |
| 04:57.04 | sgk284 | oh heh thought that was a feature |
| 04:57.06 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 04:57.52 | bryjen | maybe in a flight sim... |
| 04:58.05 | sgk284 | ha |
| 04:58.21 | brlcad | vi irc user? :) |
| 04:58.43 | wegstar | that's err spldart |
| 04:59.18 | brlcad | err spldart, can I buy a vowel please? |
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| 05:00.43 | spldart | I'm here |
| 05:00.48 | wegstar | ok |
| 05:00.50 | spldart | wegstar helped me get online |
| 05:00.53 | spldart | he's cool |
| 05:01.06 | wegstar | how nice.. :) |
| 05:01.15 | wegstar | anyway, about your problem.. |
| 05:01.18 | spldart | yeah |
| 05:01.25 | brlcad | but not as cool as the fonz |
| 05:01.27 | DTRemenak | spldart: something's screwed up for you. The line that reads "LIBCURL: (null)" for you, should read "LIBCURL: libcurl/7.12.3" for 2.0.0 release |
| 05:01.29 | blast007 | I just tried the lastest anon cvs, and started the server with an almost identical config |
| 05:01.32 | blast007 | works fine for me |
| 05:01.37 | spldart | My bzfs is crashing when I use -public commands |
| 05:01.52 | blast007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:01.52 | blast007 | LIBCURL: libcurl/7.11.1 |
| 05:01.52 | blast007 | Loaded master ban list from http://bzflag.org/master-bans.txt |
| 05:02.17 | brlcad | spldart: add -d -d -d |
| 05:02.18 | spldart | should I check and see if there are any numbers beside my libcurl error |
| 05:02.24 | spldart | I did the -d -d thing |
| 05:02.25 | brlcad | where does it crash then |
| 05:02.33 | spldart | that's how I found out about the libcurl |
| 05:02.35 | blast007 | apparently your curl is not installed, or it isn't working properly |
| 05:02.39 | spldart | here |
| 05:02.47 | spldart | let me restart my server with the lines added |
| 05:02.57 | brlcad | or the curl code is wrong |
| 05:03.11 | DTRemenak | if it wasn't installed, it would refuse to start bzfs because of a missing dll |
| 05:03.40 | blast007 | DTRemenak: what if it was the SSL version, but it didn't have OpenSSL's DLL? |
| 05:04.03 | DTRemenak | blast007: ooh, scintillating |
| 05:04.11 | spldart | ok... |
| 05:04.26 | spldart | it is indeed LIBCURL: (null) |
| 05:04.36 | blast007 | I'm using an older non-SSL version, so maybe that's the difference |
| 05:04.54 | DTRemenak | blast007: both 2.0.0 and all the 2.0.1s shipped with non-SSL |
| 05:04.55 | spldart | when I use -public "blah blah blah" |
| 05:04.57 | spldart | or |
| 05:05.04 | DTRemenak | shipping with SSL would cause license issues |
| 05:05.09 | spldart | -public xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx:5123 |
| 05:05.10 | blast007 | ah, ok |
| 05:05.22 | spldart | and of course both |
| 05:05.38 | bryjen | spldart: try adding -noMasterBanlist to your config |
| 05:05.59 | spldart | Does anyone else find themselves habitually typing (n) before they type a message in places other than bzflag ;) |
| 05:06.06 | spldart | I'll try |
| 05:06.06 | wegstar | yes |
| 05:06.07 | blast007 | ~n |
| 05:06.08 | ibot | hmm... n is the disease bzflag players get when they play too much |
| 05:06.08 | bryjen | nno ;) |
| 05:06.27 | DTRemenak | nspldart: ibot has a factoid just for that |
| 05:06.32 | blast007 | :) |
| 05:06.40 | wegstar | nit gets bad.. :) |
| 05:06.45 | blast007 | nyep |
| 05:06.46 | DTRemenak | nand blast007 didn't have to type as much as me, so he got it first |
| 05:06.59 | wegstar | n/nickserv identify ...... eek |
| 05:07.09 | blast007 | hehe |
| 05:07.16 | spldart | can I cuss in here? |
| 05:07.21 | wegstar | no... :) |
| 05:07.21 | bryjen | error no such command /nickserv |
| 05:07.24 | DTRemenak | spldart: I wouldn't recommend it |
| 05:07.26 | spldart | ok |
| 05:07.37 | spldart | Holy PooP... My server is running :eek: |
| 05:07.39 | spldart | ;) |
| 05:07.52 | wegstar | working? |
| 05:07.53 | blast007 | with -public? |
| 05:07.53 | bryjen | well, go catch it ;) |
| 05:08.00 | spldart | what did noMasterBanlist do? |
| 05:08.04 | DTRemenak | ~lart bryjen |
| 05:08.16 | spldart | yeah, it's running with the public rules now |
| 05:08.21 | spldart | but why? |
| 05:08.23 | blast007 | ah, so it was crashing on getting the master ban list...odd |
| 05:08.25 | spldart | I don't understandd |
| 05:08.35 | blast007 | it uses curl to get the list |
| 05:08.36 | DTRemenak | spldart: it disabled the master banlist loading. the master banlist is retrieved using curl |
| 05:08.37 | bryjen | it stops bzfs from trying to fetch the banlist from http://www.bzflag.org/ |
| 05:09.21 | bryjen | and what DTR said |
| 05:09.27 | spldart | grrrr |
| 05:09.35 | spldart | I keep typing (n) |
| 05:09.38 | spldart | Ok |
| 05:09.43 | DTRemenak | nannoying, isn't it? :) |
| 05:09.44 | wegstar | let me guess, no global reg right? |
| 05:09.44 | spldart | I am running |
| 05:09.49 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:09.54 | spldart | Very annoying |
| 05:09.57 | wegstar | *sigh* how right I am.. :) |
| 05:10.02 | spldart | I type 36 words a minute |
| 05:10.19 | spldart | but not when I constantly put an n in the beggining and then have to go back and erase it |
| 05:10.32 | spldart | global? |
| 05:11.09 | wegstar | err.. |
| 05:11.56 | spldart | ok |
| 05:12.04 | spldart | what is global |
| 05:12.12 | wegstar | there we have it.. another example of no global logins with a windows server... something wrong? |
| 05:12.27 | blast007 | the central registration through the bzbb forum |
| 05:12.37 | wegstar | I have met at least 7 windows servers with no global logins :( |
| 05:12.55 | blast007 | hmm |
| 05:12.56 | spldart | Hrm |
| 05:13.13 | spldart | Imma check something on the forums |
| 05:13.35 | wegstar | DTR says it works for him.. hmm |
| 05:13.44 | DTRemenak | that it does |
| 05:13.55 | DTRemenak | also works on one other machine I tested it on |
| 05:13.57 | spldart | what kinda server does LouMan use? |
| 05:14.06 | wegstar | linux... |
| 05:14.06 | spldart | linux? |
| 05:14.09 | spldart | Thought so |
| 05:14.15 | spldart | He was trying to help me out |
| 05:14.22 | wegstar | ah... |
| 05:14.25 | spldart | but didn't hit on the masterbanlist issue |
| 05:14.45 | spldart | By the way... My timetrials has some stuff up high |
| 05:14.45 | blast007 | nor did I, and I'm on Windows 2000 |
| 05:14.49 | DTRemenak | spldart: that's something that only someone who knows the code fairly well could have told you. not surprising he didn't get it. |
| 05:14.56 | spldart | ic |
| 05:15.03 | spldart | well sweet anyway |
| 05:15.06 | spldart | being public |
| 05:15.51 | blast007 | and global logins too |
| 05:16.05 | bryjen | woohoo 14 fps |
| 05:16.10 | wegstar | 7 servers... |
| 05:16.13 | spldart | ok... question |
| 05:16.22 | spldart | say I wanna work on my map |
| 05:16.34 | spldart | do I wait till it's empty before I restart? |
| 05:16.41 | blast007 | nope |
| 05:16.50 | blast007 | if you close the server, it just boots everyone off |
| 05:16.54 | spldart | IC |
| 05:17.01 | spldart | Cuz I'm not done with it |
| 05:17.34 | blast007 | best thing to do would be to join the server, say you're gonna restart it, then do a /shutdownserver |
| 05:17.34 | spldart | Like i may need to add some more wings flags for the stuff I added up high |
| 05:17.43 | spldart | OKies |
| 05:17.50 | blast007 | if someone is there, just so they know what's going on |
| 05:19.01 | spldart | Thanks a ton DTR... I assume one and the same with DTR on the forum? |
| 05:19.15 | DTRemenak | spldart: yup |
| 05:19.35 | DTRemenak | but it was bryjen who got the workaround for you |
| 05:20.29 | spldart | Thanks bryjen! |
| 05:20.39 | spldart | I'mma throw up props on my thread |
| 05:21.16 | bryjen | the clue was blast007's output than had the masterbanlist message right after the curl version |
| 05:21.46 | spldart | I'm so excited to see my server in the list |
| 05:22.12 | spldart | I never got a masterbanlist message in any of my tests :( |
| 05:22.22 | spldart | It stopped right at the curl message |
| 05:22.34 | bryjen | it died before it got there |
| 05:22.38 | wegstar | must've been next :) |
| 05:22.43 | bryjen | yup |
| 05:22.43 | spldart | IC |
| 05:23.25 | spldart | btw... Is there a good tutorial for irc use? I'm knew to it |
| 05:23.46 | spldart | knew = new |
| 05:24.06 | wegstar | here : http://www.irchelp.org/irchelp/ircprimer.html |
| 05:24.31 | wegstar | Section "1.2 How to behave on IRC" :) |
| 05:25.01 | spldart | And did you notice any lag... I know their were only 2 peeps but I'm worried my cable connection will lat |
| 05:25.02 | spldart | lag |
| 05:25.21 | blast007 | what is your upload bandwidth like? |
| 05:25.24 | wegstar | nope.. pretty smooth :) |
| 05:25.49 | spldart | varies from 256 to 384 according to the speedtests |
| 05:26.04 | spldart | but some people have complained about upload speeds from my server |
| 05:26.13 | spldart | I also run Abyss personal web server |
| 05:26.22 | spldart | and kerio winroute on the same machine |
| 05:26.38 | spldart | All it does is sit there and control the internet for the rest of my home lan |
| 05:27.27 | *** part/#bzflag JeffM2501 (~jeffm@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 05:28.07 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzeditw32/ (BZEdit32/BZEdit32.rc _test/BZEdit.nsi): |
| 05:28.07 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: Bump version: BZEdit 1.6.4. |
| 05:28.07 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: Add MSVC7 redistributable runtime DLLS to the installer, since VC7 is the release platform now. |
| 05:28.07 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: Make installer script NSIS2 compatible. |
| 05:28.29 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (Player.cxx Player.h): it's 2005 gosh golly, gotBlowedUp should mean something... unfortunately i'm a moron, so perhaps a chap not from the short bus could improve this. |
| 05:28.54 | wegstar | yay |
| 05:30.45 | DTRemenak | wegstar: wanna be a test dummy? |
| 05:30.54 | wegstar | sure.. why not ;) |
| 05:33.07 | DTRemenak | wegstar: http://dtremenak.bakadigital.com/BZE_1.6.4_Installer.exe |
| 05:33.14 | DTRemenak | if it works for you I'll post it to SF |
| 05:33.23 | wegstar | uh... sure... |
| 05:34.33 | DTRemenak | mostly I want to be sure I got all the right DLLs in there ;) |
| 05:34.41 | MeBigFatGuy | man i stank |
| 05:35.09 | MeBigFatGuy | old age aint pleasant |
| 05:35.28 | wegstar | runs fine :) |
| 05:35.32 | bzflagwiz | dbrosius - I looked for gotBlowedUp in Player.cxx/.h and didn't find it. Or am I just clueless? |
| 05:36.05 | wegstar | I think its in another file... |
| 05:36.12 | MeBigFatGuy | playing.cxx i think |
| 05:36.29 | DTRemenak | wegstar: cool, thanks :) |
| 05:36.57 | bzflagwiz | yup - sorry |
| 05:37.00 | wegstar | np :) |
| 05:43.15 | spldart | btw... I couldn't get irc connected with my firewall. Does anyone know off the top of their head which tcp ports I should punch out to connect? |
| 05:43.38 | MeBigFatGuy | 6667? |
| 05:43.48 | spldart | kew |
| 05:43.51 | spldart | thanks |
| 05:44.01 | wegstar | depends.. |
| 05:44.12 | blast007 | should just have to tell your firewall to let your IRC access the internet |
| 05:44.23 | bzflagwiz | DTR - What does BZEdit 1.6.4 add from previous versions? |
| 05:44.27 | spldart | my firewall is a pro version |
| 05:44.36 | spldart | I have to write rules for permissions |
| 05:44.42 | wegstar | that green base - blue base problem fixed :) |
| 05:44.44 | spldart | It's not proactive like that |
| 05:44.50 | DTRemenak | bzflagwiz: everything I committed today |
| 05:44.54 | blast007 | spldart: well that's not very user-friendly ;) |
| 05:45.00 | DTRemenak | less crashes, for one |
| 05:45.00 | spldart | no |
| 05:45.06 | spldart | but it's very powerful |
| 05:45.15 | wegstar | FlipZ? |
| 05:45.23 | blast007 | I use Sygate, works for what I do :) |
| 05:45.30 | spldart | from my server I can restrict access of any computer in my lan to any website on the web. |
| 05:45.32 | DTRemenak | bzflagwiz: I'll detail it in a forum post in a few minutes |
| 05:45.40 | bryjen | woah. weird bouncyness observing people explode now |
| 05:45.49 | bzflagwiz | Just wondering. I never had BZEdit crash on me before. Too bad it doesn't handle bigger world sizes ;) |
| 05:45.50 | spldart | I can also log an attack and block a single person who may be doing a port scan on me |
| 05:46.11 | DTRemenak | wegstar: flipz/green-blue was fixed in 1.6.3, but 1.6.3 was never released officially (only on the forums) |
| 05:46.17 | blast007 | is it a software firewall? |
| 05:46.19 | wegstar | ah |
| 05:46.36 | DTRemenak | that's one reason I wanted to release. Many people still use 1.6.2, which sucks |
| 05:46.51 | wegstar | It always crashes for me.. when I double clicked on a .map file :) |
| 05:46.55 | wegstar | let me test.. :) |
| 05:47.20 | spldart | confirmed... tcp 6667 |
| 05:47.26 | spldart | just checked my log |
| 05:47.28 | blast007 | :) |
| 05:47.52 | wegstar | It crashed... :) |
| 05:48.03 | DTRemenak | wegstar: hmm :) |
| 05:48.13 | bzflagwiz | ooh - double clicking a .map file crashes |
| 05:48.22 | wegstar | then you have to put something on |
| 05:48.26 | wegstar | like a box |
| 05:48.39 | bzflagwiz | I never did that before, I just open the most recent file or browse :) |
| 05:48.47 | wegstar | it segfaults.. or apprently it does and poof :) |
| 05:51.27 | spldart | Am I still here? |
| 05:51.31 | wegstar | anyone else experiencing this bug? |
| 05:51.41 | spldart | I just wrote rule to allow irc and put the firewall back up |
| 05:51.53 | DTRemenak | wegstar: I think I just duplicated it |
| 05:51.57 | bzflagwiz | spldart: you are still here |
| 05:52.05 | wegstar | oh... :) |
| 05:52.11 | spldart | sweet |
| 05:52.24 | bzflagwiz | wegstar/DTRemenak - if you didn't see my message, it crashes for me too. |
| 05:53.45 | wegstar | hmm.. if you tried to open a map with objects in it, it crashes immediately... |
| 05:54.09 | spldart | Is -requireudp a good or bad thing in bzflag's .conf file? |
| 05:54.15 | bzflagwiz | do you frequently save map files without objects? |
| 05:54.15 | MeBigFatGuy | good |
| 05:54.38 | spldart | I've heard both ways |
| 05:54.48 | spldart | good and bad |
| 05:54.55 | spldart | I have it off right now |
| 05:54.59 | MeBigFatGuy | your trading speed for more flexibility |
| 05:55.12 | spldart | Oh... |
| 05:55.23 | MeBigFatGuy | requireudp is fasted but not all players can play... firewalls etc |
| 05:55.36 | spldart | Oh |
| 05:55.50 | spldart | so I'm more flexible a server if I don't requireudp. |
| 05:55.58 | spldart | But I'm faster if I do |
| 05:59.05 | spldart | Ooops.. Missed yah Sportchic.. Hi |
| 06:03.48 | spldart | bye all |
| 06:03.57 | *** part/#bzflag spldart (~vircuser@cpe-67-10-210-195.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 06:04.58 | wegstar | DTRemenak.. anything you could do about it? ;) |
| 06:05.07 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 06:06.16 | DTRemenak | it's a bit funky though |
| 06:11.43 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzeditw32/BZEdit32/ (BZEdit32Doc.cpp world.cpp): Fix two document-open crash bugs. |
| 06:12.33 | DTRemenak | wegstar: that should fix it |
| 06:15.21 | DTRemenak | wegstar: mind testing http://dtremenak.bakadigital.com/BZEditW32_1.6.4_Installer.exe ? |
| 06:16.14 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzeditw32/_test/BZEdit.nsi: rename installer for consistency with the one already on SF |
| 06:19.46 | wegstar | ok... |
| 06:21.52 | wegstar | seems ok.. except for the fact that all "color is lost" on the map |
| 06:22.06 | wegstar | a white grid on a black background.. no more wall.. etc. |
| 06:22.14 | DTRemenak | hmm |
| 06:22.19 | wegstar | err... |
| 06:22.43 | wegstar | the "xyz poles" at the center are still there .. :) |
| 06:23.14 | wegstar | other than that, pyramids and boxes are white |
| 06:23.24 | DTRemenak | oops |
| 06:23.31 | wegstar | including teleporters :) |
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| 06:33.08 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzeditw32/BZEdit32/ (BZEdit32Doc.cpp BZEdit32Doc.h): fix the texture initialization stuff for new document creation and document loads |
| 06:35.17 | DTRemenak | wegstar: mind testing http://dtremenak.bakadigital.com/BZEditW32_1.6.4_Installer.exe ? |
| 06:35.23 | wegstar | ok.. |
| 06:38.09 | wegstar | works..except when I close it.. It doesn't ask me if I want to save :) |
| 06:38.17 | DTRemenak | is it supposed to? |
| 06:38.46 | wegstar | well.. it does if i just ran it |
| 06:40.17 | DTRemenak | I don't see any code in there to do it |
| 06:42.46 | wegstar | nvermind.. I thought it did :) |
| 06:42.53 | wegstar | It should though... |
| 06:43.46 | DTRemenak | maybe next version :) |
| 06:43.49 | DTRemenak | I want to go to bed |
| 06:43.52 | wegstar | :) |
| 06:45.37 | wegstar | nite all |
| 07:04.05 | jpa_ | gnight DTRemenak |
| 07:04.10 | jpa_ | ~dtremenak++ |
| 07:04.36 | SportChick | DTRemenak: ping |
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| 07:04.45 | jpa_ | hi SportChick |
| 07:04.49 | Tegan | hi |
| 07:04.53 | SportChick | DTRemenak: any idea what server side setting would prevent all to be unable to talk? |
| 07:04.55 | SportChick | jpa_: hiya |
| 07:05.11 | Tegan | everyone (EVERYONE group) has actionMessage |
| 07:05.29 | Tegan | only the owners can chat |
| 07:05.50 | Pimpinella | SportChick: orchid just added a perm for that |
| 07:05.53 | jpa_ | SportChick: hmm.. prevent all to be unable to talk? |
| 07:05.54 | Pimpinella | TAKL |
| 07:05.57 | Pimpinella | TALK |
| 07:06.03 | Tegan | will try it |
| 07:06.50 | Tegan | that was it |
| 07:06.52 | Pimpinella | she also made a command /mute and /unmute |
| 07:07.00 | Tegan | thanks |
| 07:07.18 | jpa_ | ~orchid++ |
| 07:07.31 | Pimpinella | not sure if she uses Talk as permission to talk or to use /mute |
| 07:07.43 | Tegan | ~Pimpinella++ |
| 07:07.49 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 07:10.24 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/Player.cxx: slightly better, but something dreadfully wrong |
| 07:10.31 | SportChick | ~pimpinella++ |
| 07:10.47 | jpa_ | ~SportChick++ |
| 07:10.51 | Pimpinella | i made a patch to allow -PERM, so if you want e.g. EYERYONE without action message you can simply do -ACTIONMESSAGE instead of redefining EVERYONE as a whole |
| 07:12.27 | Pimpinella | later |
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| 12:25.41 | cristi | hi all |
| 12:28.13 | cristi | !seen brlcad_ |
| 12:28.13 | guu | cristi: brlcad_ was last seen here 17 weeks, 3 days, 14 hours, 44 minutes, and 8 seconds ago saying: <brlcad_> exit |
| 12:32.39 | [dmp] | hi cristi |
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| 13:50.59 | gina | bah |
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| 14:30.22 | SonOfMan | i've been held without a trial since july 7th, 2004 |
| 14:30.47 | SonOfMan | ppl have tried to kill me numerous times in captivity |
| 14:31.35 | SonOfMan | from uranium dust to radiation, and even hydrocloric bathing water, nothing they do works |
| 14:32.22 | blast007 | ? :) |
| 14:32.43 | SonOfMan | i was charged with burglury and theft a felony, but the worst part about it is the only thing they can prove is unlawful entry, a misdemeanor |
| 14:32.59 | SonOfMan | behold, i come as a theif |
| 14:34.42 | SonOfMan | oh yeah, i've been poisoned at least 5 times i'd say, and now my stay in RiverView Psychatric Center in Augusta Maine i'm being held indefinatley, with no future court date or imminant date of release |
| 14:35.12 | SonOfMan | my proper legal name is Robert Leonard Hiett II |
| 14:35.56 | SonOfMan | I am God the Father, the Son Christ Jesus, aka Son Of Man, and the servant |
| 14:36.17 | SonOfMan | ? ;) blast do you like pot? |
| 14:36.22 | Tupone | from Maine. good |
| 14:36.47 | SonOfMan | perhaps you like smoking pot Tupone |
| 14:37.03 | Tupone | ~dict pot |
| 14:37.07 | Pimpi | i think enum AccessPerm lacks kill |
| 14:37.22 | SonOfMan | mary jane, via air mail plus |
| 14:38.01 | Pimpi | no, meant antikill |
| 14:38.57 | blast007 | SonOfMan == 198.182.163.102 |
| 14:39.07 | Pimpi | Tupone: fix it? |
| 14:39.13 | Tupone | I saw :) Agusta Main |
| 14:39.39 | Grumbler | ~nslookup 198.182.163.102 |
| 14:39.44 | Tupone | Pimpi: there is a compilation error? |
| 14:39.54 | Pimpi | no, runtime |
| 14:40.29 | Tupone | can you post a patch? |
| 14:41.01 | SonOfMan | Tupone, it's pretty sweet stuff ain't it, probably hawian or limegreen my guess |
| 14:41.10 | Pimpi | sure, but you just need to add antikill to AccesPerm |
| 14:41.37 | Tupone | my tree is broken now :( |
| 14:41.38 | Pimpi | it's in nameFromPerm and in permFromName |
| 14:41.48 | SonOfMan | does anyone know of a web interface for irc that uses https? |
| 14:42.47 | blast007 | SonOfMan: why would you willingly want to use a web interface for IRC? |
| 14:42.53 | Pimpi | oops, something curios happens here... |
| 14:43.17 | SonOfMan | blast007: what do you mean, i'm locked down with crappy xp |
| 14:43.39 | SonOfMan | my linux box was confiscated by my X convienant factor |
| 14:43.45 | blast007 | even if you find an https one, they can still log everything you say |
| 14:44.10 | SonOfMan | these computors won't allow to install anything |
| 14:44.50 | blast007 | could just copy the mIRC installed directory onto a USB drive, and use that...doesn't need to be installed then |
| 14:44.50 | SonOfMan | blast007: i have nothing to hide, besides with https, it's harder to edit |
| 14:45.07 | Pimpi | Tupone: no, was another bug, i'll send u a patch |
| 14:45.13 | Pimpi | to where? |
| 14:45.28 | SonOfMan | i have no usb drive |
| 14:45.33 | Tupone | ok. I don't know when I can process it, better SF |
| 14:45.42 | Tupone | or send to me :/ |
| 14:45.43 | Pimpi | k |
| 14:45.57 | Pimpi | sure to you, but to where? |
| 14:46.01 | Pimpi | email? |
| 14:46.23 | blast007 | SonOfMan: well, you could add the directory to a spanned zip file, and put it on several floppies too |
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| 14:47.14 | SonOfMan | i'm not allowed to even bring floppies in |
| 14:47.40 | blast007 | wow, that's sad |
| 14:47.48 | Tupone | you can dl and use |
| 14:47.50 | SonOfMan | when i get out, one of the first things that i'm going to do is by an amd system and load gentoo linux |
| 14:47.51 | blast007 | then upload it to a website then |
| 14:49.00 | SonOfMan | Tupone: what's dl and use |
| 14:49.13 | Tupone | dl -> DownLoad |
| 14:49.23 | Tupone | sry |
| 14:50.51 | SonOfMan | i think i use to chat on freenet somehow with my irc client |
| 14:51.37 | SonOfMan | perhaps someone would be interested in calling me from here? |
| 14:51.57 | blast007 | I doubt that |
| 14:52.08 | SonOfMan | but i can do many things |
| 14:52.26 | SonOfMan | with God all things are possible |
| 14:53.08 | SonOfMan | i get 45 minutes a day online |
| 14:55.53 | Grumbler | university of maine, ugh, they have an aweful hockey team |
| 14:57.21 | SonOfMan | Grumbler: my stay in ME has been quite univiting, i wouldn't recommend it to anyone |
| 14:58.57 | SonOfMan | they cannot kill me because i will *NEVER DIE* |
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| 15:03.39 | stevek | g' morning |
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| 15:04.54 | Grumbler | morin stevek |
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| 15:18.12 | jpa_ | hi cods |
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| 15:59.21 | Nidhoggr | ~seen timriker |
| 15:59.22 | ibot | timriker <~timr@TimRiker.active.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 14h 56m 29s ago, saying: 'well, headed home. cya.'. |
| 16:06.53 | bendy24 | Nidhoggr: do you think he made it home yet? |
| 16:06.59 | bendy24 | :) |
| 16:07.03 | Nidhoggr | hope so! |
| 16:07.15 | Nidhoggr | blootbot code is broken, so I need to bother him. |
| 16:07.25 | bendy24 | :( |
| 16:08.13 | Nidhoggr | it's looping and warning all over the place. :( |
| 16:09.27 | bendy24 | speaking of looping.. damn exchange server |
| 16:09.42 | bendy24 | ms can shove their software up their ass |
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| 16:09.51 | freelancer | hi |
| 16:10.02 | bendy24 | hi |
| 16:10.10 | bendy24 | not playing overlord? |
| 16:10.14 | bendy24 | :) |
| 16:10.17 | freelancer | i need a hepcat admin |
| 16:10.34 | Nidhoggr | eek. gotta watch language in here, bendy24. not as strict as secretplace, but still frowned upon. |
| 16:10.39 | freelancer | to reset the flags ,red flag is missing |
| 16:12.00 | bendy24 | Nidhoggr: sorry, but you know me ;) |
| 16:15.32 | Nidhoggr | ugh. too much going on. I missed stevek while working on a work thing. |
| 16:16.54 | ruskie | gaahhh a static game is so boring... |
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| 16:18.52 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/c-ares/ (79 files in 5 dirs): Adding the whole c-ares tree - Still not used |
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| 16:21.41 | orchid | ciao Tupone |
| 16:21.49 | Tupone | ciao :) |
| 16:24.17 | Tupone | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:26.13 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jujibo * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/Permissions.cxx: Added missed antipollkill. Thanks to Frank Evers for discover it. |
| 16:29.33 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/include/ares.h: Include from c-ares |
| 16:29.51 | _Manu_ | Tupone, stop working ;-P |
| 16:30.31 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (include/AresHandler.h src/net/AresHandler.cxx): Ares handler |
| 16:31.14 | Tupone | _Manu_: do you mind testing my changes? |
| 16:31.40 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 16:32.10 | Tupone | Something is missing, and I can give via patch file. I don't want to borker cvs |
| 16:32.13 | Pimpi | what is areslib? |
| 16:32.22 | Tupone | adns |
| 16:32.41 | _Manu_ | now i have not much time.. but i'll put one eye on it later :) |
| 16:32.48 | Tupone | libcurl can use ares, not adns, for licensing problem |
| 16:32.58 | Nidhoggr | is a different inplementation of adns, Tupone ? |
| 16:33.03 | Tupone | yeah |
| 16:33.15 | Tupone | with a license more free :) |
| 16:33.23 | Tupone | BSD style |
| 16:33.38 | Tupone | I'm removing adns when all is ok |
| 16:33.50 | Nidhoggr | cool |
| 16:34.00 | _Manu_ | heh.. that's cool tupone :) |
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| 16:39.02 | Tupone | https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1161486&group_id=3248&atid=303248 <- for who is interested in testing (only bzfs) |
| 16:40.07 | _Manu_ | downloaded :) |
| 16:41.54 | Tupone | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.56 | Grumbler | the best place to test this patch is sp .....they have the most testcases |
| 16:42.39 | _Manu_ | Tupone, ares.patch ? is this ok? |
| 16:42.47 | Tupone | yeah |
| 16:43.04 | Tupone | patch -p0 < ares.patch (?) |
| 16:43.40 | _Manu_ | yes.. done |
| 16:44.11 | Tupone | I'm somehow concerned by windows build :/ cannot test here. I removed every MS$ software |
| 16:44.27 | _Manu_ | lol.. need update.. :/ |
| 16:44.41 | _Manu_ | your last commit.. heh |
| 16:45.06 | Tupone | yeah, you need, lot of files. The patch is only for the file I changed |
| 16:45.25 | _Manu_ | yes.. done.. now building a new work copy :) |
| 16:46.04 | Tupone | you could get a c-ares system installed copy, but windows do not have dll for c-ares, so I was forced to put the whole tree |
| 16:46.32 | _Manu_ | just using your copy.. |
| 16:47.03 | Tupone | yeah, the Makefile I did uses the local copy |
| 16:47.28 | _Manu_ | yes, i see |
| 16:47.55 | _Manu_ | LDFLAGS are -L/usr/X11R6/lib |
| 16:47.55 | _Manu_ | CPPFLAGS are -Wall -W -mcpu=i686 |
| 16:47.55 | _Manu_ | LIBS are -ladns -lm |
| 16:48.02 | Tupone | I don't like the changes MrAC did on kill. Probably because I'm somrthing ill, but the make me wordt |
| 16:48.04 | _Manu_ | not removed adns? |
| 16:48.12 | Tupone | rm config.cache ? |
| 16:48.18 | Tupone | I removed |
| 16:48.28 | Tupone | lemme check |
| 16:48.29 | _Manu_ | let me clean all.. . heh |
| 16:48.35 | creeperz | rm /dev/hda1 |
| 16:48.37 | creeperz | :-) |
| 16:48.45 | _Manu_ | no rights.. |
| 16:48.58 | Tupone | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda ? |
| 16:49.04 | Tupone | lol |
| 16:49.04 | _Manu_ | that's better.. heh |
| 16:49.25 | _Manu_ | better is dd if=/usr/bin/bzflag of=/dev/hda lol |
| 16:49.52 | Tupone | a boostrappable bzflag |
| 16:49.57 | _Manu_ | hehe.. |
| 16:50.05 | _Manu_ | then you can run it from a livecd.. lol |
| 16:50.26 | Tupone | no adns in configure.in |
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| 16:55.46 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/c-ares/Makefile.in: The first missing |
| 16:56.09 | gina | JeffM2501: ping |
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| 17:02.00 | Tupone | ohh :) Chikorita |
| 17:02.26 | Chikorita | bongiorno tupo |
| 17:02.29 | Chikorita | =) |
| 17:02.40 | Tupone | ciao |
| 17:03.06 | Chikorita | sumtin weod iz goin on hepcat overlord server ... |
| 17:03.07 | Tupone | learning the first words, I see |
| 17:03.13 | Chikorita | hehee |
| 17:04.02 | Chikorita | da server sez therz only 5 greens an 6 reds playin , buh ther r clearly mor than dat playin |
| 17:04.09 | Grumbler | still trying to start her own language |
| 17:04.13 | Chikorita | strange server bug? |
| 17:04.23 | Chikorita | moin grumbla |
| 17:04.32 | Grumbler | yep, there is one out there like that |
| 17:04.37 | Chikorita | o i c |
| 17:04.54 | gina | oink |
| 17:04.55 | Chikorita | itz preventin peeps from switchin 2 even out da teems |
| 17:05.21 | Chikorita | i knew it happend on ducati, dats y chestal took his server down 4 awhile... |
| 17:05.32 | Chikorita | buh dis iz da 1st time i seen it happen on hepcat |
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| 17:05.52 | Chestal | yes, I haven't been watching lately, has the problem appeared again lately on ducati? |
| 17:06.10 | orchid | nope |
| 17:06.12 | Chestal | I am running a slightly newer version there now |
| 17:06.12 | Chikorita | not l8ly |
| 17:06.14 | gina | Chestal: could you reset my pwd on ducati? cant log in |
| 17:06.14 | orchid | not that ive seen |
| 17:06.23 | Chikorita | hi bzg =) |
| 17:06.27 | Grumbler | didnt pimpi make some fixes for that bug |
| 17:06.28 | Chikorita | an chestal |
| 17:06.28 | orchid | :P |
| 17:06.30 | Chikorita | heehe |
| 17:06.34 | Chestal | gina: I'll put you onthe list and do it later |
| 17:06.35 | orchid | ciao Chikorita |
| 17:06.44 | gina | soundz ok for me |
| 17:06.52 | gina | Chestal: tankitty nick |
| 17:07.03 | Chikorita | buh i tink dis bug iz different from da ducati bug ..yes? |
| 17:07.23 | Chikorita | on hepcat it has listed da wrong number of playerz |
| 17:07.39 | Chikorita | buh on ducati it had mor peeps playin than da limit |
| 17:07.43 | DTRemenak | Tupone: if you want curl to use c-ares on windows, curl will also have to be in the tree |
| 17:07.56 | Tupone | not for now :) |
| 17:08.04 | DTRemenak | ok :) |
| 17:08.44 | Grumbler | iirc, there is something to do with slot being used up, and pimpi had a guess it was outgoing udp connections get their own slot, and not getting paired with incoming udp correctly |
| 17:09.00 | Grumbler | something along those lines |
| 17:09.37 | Grumbler | but what you describe is what was going on in viper |
| 17:09.56 | Chikorita | o |
| 17:10.01 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak must like the munchkins |
| 17:10.14 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: say what? |
| 17:10.19 | JeffM2501 | 1.6.4 |
| 17:10.33 | DTRemenak | ohh, I just got tired of it crashing when I was testing it on wine |
| 17:10.39 | JeffM2501 | you know noone is going to read your last sentance :) |
| 17:10.40 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 17:10.48 | JeffM2501 | it's a horible horible codebase |
| 17:10.51 | DTRemenak | I put it in freaking bold, they better read it |
| 17:11.09 | JeffM2501 | bold means nothing |
| 17:11.14 | Grumbler | "hey look everybody, DTRemenak did a 2.0 bzedit " :) |
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| 17:11.24 | DTRemenak | ~lart Grumbler |
| 17:11.25 | Pimpi | Chikorita: in patches section is a patch, that makes the bugs effects less annoying |
| 17:11.28 | JeffM2501 | they only read things that are in the form of animated gif |
| 17:12.19 | JeffM2501 | but hey, cool for fixing the crashes, maybe somone else will pick it up and add stuff, who knows |
| 17:12.35 | Pimpi | there are still too high slots used now and then, but at least the teamcounts remain fine |
| 17:13.10 | Grumbler | so its a true patch, and not quite a fix |
| 17:13.21 | Pimpi | yep |
| 17:13.22 | JeffM2501 | at some point I'm going to have to figure out what I want to do for an editor |
| 17:13.24 | Pimpi | not a fix |
| 17:13.46 | Grumbler | JeffM2501< vi ......all maps should be done in text |
| 17:14.02 | JeffM2501 | the current format is text based yes |
| 17:14.06 | JeffM2501 | it's XMLish |
| 17:14.16 | JeffM2501 | but it has true heirachys |
| 17:14.16 | Pimpi | Grumbler: _Manu_ and me were hunting the bug for days, but didn't root it out |
| 17:14.25 | JeffM2501 | dono how good that will work for people in text |
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| 17:15.22 | Pimpi | Grumbler: i think it's a mix of a race condition and some logical error with all those counters used |
| 17:15.26 | Grumbler | Pimpi< those are the most painful bugs.....gotta wonder what added/modified feature caused it |
| 17:15.48 | JeffM2501 | also if a non object based world definition is gone too, then using vim may be just too painfull |
| 17:16.15 | Pimpi | There seems to be a client that has automated rejoining |
| 17:16.29 | Pimpi | or probably some more ;) |
| 17:17.19 | Pimpi | up to 3 joins a second |
| 17:18.46 | Grumbler | time for the global ban list |
| 17:19.12 | Grumbler | although i suppose that wont help here |
| 17:19.26 | Grumbler | since its the act of joining that is causing the problem |
| 17:19.28 | JeffM2501 | if a local ban won't work, then a global won't |
| 17:19.45 | Grumbler | iptable time |
| 17:19.45 | JeffM2501 | require ID and we can pull all his accounts. |
| 17:19.46 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/common/VC71/common.vcproj: if common is to be a lib, it needs a project file |
| 17:19.57 | JeffM2501 | or do that :) |
| 17:20.33 | Grumbler | then it just turns into a DOS attack |
| 17:23.45 | Nidhoggr | so, why the switch to G3D instead of Ogre, JeffM2501 ? |
| 17:23.46 | JeffM2501 | somone should give that girl an apple lanyard so she can keep that terminal around her neck and stop loosing it. |
| 17:23.59 | JeffM2501 | G3d is not realy an engine |
| 17:24.09 | Nidhoggr | what's it do for us? |
| 17:24.09 | JeffM2501 | Ogre is nice, but it does a bit too much |
| 17:24.13 | Nidhoggr | ah |
| 17:24.37 | JeffM2501 | G3d basicly replaces platform, SDL, and OpenGL |
| 17:24.53 | JeffM2501 | and adds a number of utilitys that make stuff easyer |
| 17:25.01 | JeffM2501 | and make it harder to code bugs |
| 17:25.42 | JeffM2501 | Ogre had a couple of scenegraphs, you coudl make your own but it was kind of a pain |
| 17:25.59 | JeffM2501 | it also kinda jacked up input because it has poor input handaling. |
| 17:26.08 | JeffM2501 | it was very extensable tho |
| 17:26.33 | JeffM2501 | G3d dosn't even try to go down the scenegraph line so it allows other stuff to be put on top of it |
| 17:31.55 | JeffM2501 | and mostly I need something to write in my spare time, I seem to be horibly unmotivated on my own code, but can bust out others code. so maybe this will help me |
| 17:32.12 | JeffM2501 | otherwise I'll just play eq2 and WoW all day long |
| 17:32.52 | Grumbler | just incase anyone here gets it..... /msg Geert SPAM: user@host |
| 17:33.34 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 17:34.41 | Grumbler | pm spam |
| 17:35.14 | Grumbler | freenode apparently set up Geert to identify and kill the spam bot |
| 17:35.14 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 17:35.32 | Grumbler | ...and i just got spammed |
| 17:35.34 | JeffM2501 | does anyone think a spambot ever works? |
| 17:35.48 | Grumbler | same could be said for spam |
| 17:36.12 | Grumbler | at some point, someone will just click it |
| 17:36.15 | JeffM2501 | I read that like 20% of people who get spam actualy buy the stuff |
| 17:36.40 | blast007 | hrm...that's sad... |
| 17:37.00 | blast007 | cuz it makes the amount of spam increase, as it's a profitable activity |
| 17:37.11 | Grumbler | wow, didnt know there were that many lonely, gential challenged, drug loving, nigeria-helpers out there |
| 17:37.23 | blast007 | heh |
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| 17:53.59 | Grumbler | moring SC, how is the withdrawl going |
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| 18:16.13 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03jujibo * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (commands.cxx bzfs.cxx): Recovering removed code. Please, update your cvs copies before commit changes :) |
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| 18:17.59 | SonOfMan | smoke and a pancake?... or perhaps a bong and a crepe... |
| 18:18.40 | SonOfMan | monkey see monkey do... just don't kiss and tell |
| 18:19.09 | SonOfMan | Benjiman McFree ring any bells here? or perhaps KingRobert |
| 18:19.43 | SonOfMan | anyone ever use an irc client to connect to freenet chat? |
| 18:19.44 | Tupone | SonOfMan: can't you play at bzflag? Jesus is playing sometime |
| 18:20.16 | SonOfMan | I do enjoy games at times, as long as i'm on top |
| 18:20.39 | Tupone | hehe, you should, or no? |
| 18:20.44 | menotume | alert, alert .... ++DefconLevel |
| 18:20.58 | SonOfMan | lol |
| 18:25.32 | SonOfMan | anyone visit freenet |
| 18:25.59 | Nidhoggr | ~wiki bzflag |
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| 18:45.34 | Punkus | hi all |
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| 18:52.55 | SonOfMan | whatz bzflag mean anyway? |
| 18:53.15 | tango_ | battle zone flag |
| 18:54.58 | Punkus | can someone help me using the material in bz maps? |
| 18:57.07 | gina | no sorry |
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| 19:05.31 | Birdie | hi gina |
| 19:05.37 | Punkus | brad2901: can you help me using the material in bz maps? |
| 19:06.06 | Punkus | hi Birdie |
| 19:06.13 | brad2901 | punkus: I'm not the best person to ask for creating 2.0 maps, sry |
| 19:06.18 | Punkus | ok |
| 19:06.34 | Punkus | you know anyone I could ask? |
| 19:06.49 | brad2901 | jpa_ is he's here |
| 19:07.06 | brad2901 | he seems pretty good at making maps from what i've seen |
| 19:07.11 | Punkus | jpa_: you around? |
| 19:07.29 | Punkus | !seen jpa_ |
| 19:07.30 | guu | Punkus: jpa_ was last seen here 3 hours, 49 minutes, and 17 seconds ago saying: <jpa_> hi cods |
| 19:07.44 | Punkus | hmm... a bit idle |
| 19:09.29 | Punkus | :( |
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| 19:10.11 | Punkus | hi rufitos |
| 19:10.16 | rufitos | helloS |
| 19:10.25 | Punkus | you any good at making 2.0 maps? =) |
| 19:10.52 | rufitos | heh sunno, never tryed :p |
| 19:10.56 | rufitos | dunno* |
| 19:11.06 | Punkus | lol, im fiddling |
| 19:11.15 | rufitos | :) |
| 19:12.01 | Punkus | but I cant get it to work, and all the docs are so useless.... |
| 19:12.19 | Punkus | its so hard to figure out what this does and that does and so on |
| 19:13.17 | rufitos | keep testing all the options :P |
| 19:13.55 | rufitos | is master learner in tha house? |
| 19:14.11 | Punkus | ~seen learner |
| 19:14.13 | ibot | learner <~brlcad@brlcad.bronze.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 5d 23h 37m 30s ago, saying: 'do you have ping times to them?'. |
| 19:14.29 | Punkus | 5d's ago :P |
| 19:14.42 | rufitos | pff |
| 19:14.44 | rufitos | :) |
| 19:15.07 | brad2901 | punkus: Have you tryed the 'prefabs and objects' section on the bzbb forum? |
| 19:15.21 | Punkus | umm.. no.. |
| 19:15.45 | brad2901 | :) |
| 19:16.43 | gina | ~seen brlcad_ |
| 19:16.44 | ibot | brlcad_ is currently on #brlcad (42m 11s) #bzflag (42m 11s) |
| 19:16.47 | gina | right |
| 19:16.51 | gina | of course |
| 19:16.57 | gina | <=== slaps herself |
| 19:17.51 | jpa_ | hi brad2901 |
| 19:17.57 | brad2901 | hey jpa_ |
| 19:17.57 | jpa_ | Punkus: yes |
| 19:19.39 | Legoguy | anyone know what one can do if the list server refuses to add a server to the list because the requesting ip is different than the resolved ip? that's what happens when i try to run it on a server that has virtual ips on it |
| 19:19.54 | Tupone | use 81 |
| 19:20.06 | Legoguy | ... hmm |
| 19:20.09 | Tupone | as a port for listserver |
| 19:20.14 | Legoguy | ah |
| 19:20.20 | Legoguy | wait |
| 19:20.29 | Nidhoggr | also use -i to specify specific interface ip for bzfs |
| 19:20.32 | jpa_ | Legoguy: use -i |
| 19:20.45 | Legoguy | it can still be port 5154, but port 81 on the listserver? |
| 19:20.58 | Tupone | ah, that was for a client, I dunno for server |
| 19:21.05 | Nidhoggr | user -i |
| 19:21.07 | Nidhoggr | err |
| 19:21.09 | Nidhoggr | use -i |
| 19:21.18 | Nidhoggr | you won't need port 81 |
| 19:21.26 | Legoguy | hmm so -i <real ip>? |
| 19:21.27 | jpa_ | use -i some-ip-of-your-network-card-to-outside-world |
| 19:21.31 | Legoguy | err. virtual ip |
| 19:22.17 | jpa_ | for me, i have two interfaces open outside, but port for bzfs open only on the other one |
| 19:22.23 | jpa_ | so i need -i |
| 19:22.31 | Nidhoggr | legoguy whichever ip your public address looks up in dns |
| 19:22.40 | Legoguy | k |
| 19:22.49 | Legoguy | thanks for the help |
| 19:22.49 | Legoguy | heh |
| 19:22.58 | Nidhoggr | np |
| 19:23.04 | Tupone | Legoguy: you have a virtual IP but then, how people can connect to you? you need a public address and a nat. I is that public address |
| 19:23.15 | Tupone | s/I/-i/ |
| 19:23.40 | Tupone | even if virtual can also be public :/ |
| 19:24.03 | Legoguy | i have a dns that maps to a different (a virtual) ip that isn't the _real_ server |
| 19:25.25 | Legoguy | woo -i worked :) |
| 19:25.26 | Legoguy | thanks |
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| 19:25.48 | Nidhoggr | I have to use -i, too, since secretplace has 2 IPs |
| 19:26.39 | Nidhoggr | tupone, if machine has more than 1 IP, it's possible for bzfs to connect to listserver from any of the IPs. |
| 19:26.41 | _Manu_ | Nidhoggr, i have to use: -publiclist http://db.bzflag.org:81/bzfls.php because the transparent proxy behind i am |
| 19:26.56 | Nidhoggr | _Manu_: yeah, some folks have to do it that way. |
| 19:27.07 | Nidhoggr | if you don't have a proxy, then -i owrks. |
| 19:27.10 | Nidhoggr | works |
| 19:27.30 | _Manu_ | yes i know |
| 19:29.38 | Punkus | hi jpa_ |
| 19:29.50 | Punkus | lol, missed ya... |
| 19:32.16 | jpa_ | did you? |
| 19:32.20 | Punkus | lol |
| 19:32.39 | Punkus | can u help me with the material option in bzflag 2.0 maps? |
| 19:32.56 | jpa_ | have you read my howtos already? |
| 19:33.01 | Punkus | where? |
| 19:33.19 | jpa_ | http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzw/ |
| 19:33.22 | Punkus | yay |
| 19:33.29 | Punkus | gone.. |
| 19:33.49 | jpa_ | gone? |
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| 20:34.11 | orchid | ~lart brlcad |
| 20:34.26 | brlcad | _Manu_: you cannot commit to cvs if you are not up to date |
| 20:35.49 | Grumbler | so that implies someone removed _Manu_ 's code on purpose......oooooooooo |
| 20:35.54 | brlcad | _Manu_: there were problems with a corrupted checkout that caused the cvs diff mixup on the next commit |
| 20:37.04 | brlcad | so CVS is to blame if anything |
| 20:37.14 | brlcad | I'm probably next in line since I "fixed" the problem :) |
| 20:37.59 | _Manu_ | brlcad, i was up to date |
| 20:38.24 | brlcad | yes, didn't imply that you weren't :) |
| 20:38.24 | _Manu_ | well i merged diffs |
| 20:38.33 | _Manu_ | np now :) |
| 20:38.54 | _Manu_ | ah yes.. was wrong i know :) |
| 20:38.56 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, I think we posted at the same time :) |
| 20:38.59 | brlcad | you cannot commit changes to cvs without being up to date |
| 20:39.08 | brlcad | so your statement is moot :) |
| 20:39.32 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 20:39.35 | _Manu_ | bad spell.. |
| 20:40.09 | JeffM2501 | MFC isn't open source, so I don't think you can even have the code on mingw |
| 20:40.14 | brlcad | the problem occurred because of a corrupted checkout .. cvs "merged" the file diff on an update by ignoring your recent change |
| 20:40.23 | brlcad | so when I moved the files into a repaired checkout, they were lost |
| 20:40.38 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: IIRC there was an effort a while back to be able to link code with the msvc mfc library |
| 20:40.41 | brlcad | and future cvs updates didn't matter |
| 20:40.54 | DTRemenak | dunno how far it got |
| 20:40.58 | JeffM2501 | how did they get the headers? |
| 20:41.10 | JeffM2501 | and class wizard |
| 20:41.19 | JeffM2501 | and the extra stuff the compiler does with like message maps |
| 20:42.04 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: all I know is that they were trying. People try all sorts of whacky stuff :) |
| 20:42.26 | DTRemenak | headers can be written from documentation, that's how wine did it |
| 20:42.27 | JeffM2501 | the cool thing about G3d is that it has links to wxWidgets, so you can use that for an interface in the engine |
| 20:42.32 | JeffM2501 | true |
| 20:42.52 | JeffM2501 | tho I'm thinking something like a python editor is best |
| 20:42.59 | JeffM2501 | if it's made properly |
| 20:43.55 | DTRemenak | or java...the jvm is more common on windows machines than the python runtime |
| 20:44.04 | JeffM2501 | yeah or java |
| 20:44.11 | JeffM2501 | tho can't you build a python "exe" ? |
| 20:44.20 | DTRemenak | I think so, if you try hard enough :) |
| 20:44.31 | JeffM2501 | but something like that |
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| 20:45.07 | JeffM2501 | need to find a gui monkey who can do all that, then just use the world and scene classes for the map part |
| 20:45.49 | Grumbler | no java, pls |
| 20:46.01 | JeffM2501 | you gonna be our gui monkey? :) |
| 20:48.51 | Grumbler | yeah DTRemenak you gonna do it? |
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| 20:49.20 | Grumbler | its almost summer, you should plenty of free time |
| 20:49.55 | JeffM2501 | no DTRemenak needs to be a core developer |
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| 20:53.50 | Punkus | has anyone used wine running BZEdit succesfully? |
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| 20:55.47 | DTRemenak | Punkus: it got broke again recently |
| 20:55.58 | Punkus | ? |
| 20:56.06 | Punkus | so, i cant run it? :P |
| 20:56.14 | DTRemenak | you might be able to, I dunno |
| 20:56.25 | DTRemenak | it's a works-again, broke-again sort of deal :) |
| 20:56.33 | Pimpi | ;) |
| 20:56.47 | JeffM2501 | it's not realy an officialy supported feature |
| 20:56.53 | Punkus | i tried it... it said it couldn't find the libraries when I was in the dir where the libraries were... |
| 20:56.57 | JeffM2501 | so it's an "at your own risk " think |
| 20:57.07 | DTRemenak | Punkus: install 1.6.4 through wine |
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| 20:57.15 | Punkus | i have |
| 20:57.18 | DTRemenak | ahh |
| 20:57.20 | Punkus | then? |
| 20:57.23 | DTRemenak | should have started then |
| 20:57.28 | Punkus | nup |
| 20:57.35 | DTRemenak | worked for me...maybe a different version of wine |
| 20:57.46 | Punkus | it installed and said thank you! and had a close button |
| 20:57.59 | JeffM2501 | then did you run it? |
| 20:58.12 | *** part/#bzflag DarthValou (~none@80-218-159-229.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 20:58.37 | DTRemenak | what libraries does it complain about, specifically? |
| 20:59.10 | Punkus | then in my ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/BZEdit1.6.4/ there is the exec |
| 20:59.38 | Punkus | [user@host BZEdit1.6.4]$ wine BZEdit32.exe |
| 20:59.39 | Punkus | err:module:import_dll Library MSVCP71.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\Program Files\\BZEdit1.6.4\\BZEdit32.exe") not found |
| 20:59.39 | Punkus | err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\Program Files\\BZEdit1.6.4\\BZEdit32.exe" failed, status c0000135 |
| 20:59.39 | Punkus | [chris@tv BZEdit1.6.4]$ |
| 21:00.04 | DTRemenak | hmm |
| 21:00.22 | JeffM2501 | needs the 71 runtimes |
| 21:00.26 | Punkus | ? |
| 21:00.33 | DTRemenak | guess I left one out. |
| 21:00.35 | Punkus | english plz |
| 21:00.37 | Punkus | :P |
| 21:00.42 | JeffM2501 | your missing a file |
| 21:00.45 | Punkus | oh... |
| 21:01.29 | Punkus | its 2816k |
| 21:01.40 | JeffM2501 | no DTR forgot one |
| 21:01.41 | Punkus | the dir BZedit included |
| 21:01.56 | Punkus | is that any smaller then it is supossed to be? |
| 21:02.11 | Punkus | i used du -sh ../BZEdit1.6.4 |
| 21:02.16 | Punkus | woop... no h |
| 21:02.18 | Punkus | lol |
| 21:02.23 | Punkus | du -s ../BZEdit1.6.4 |
| 21:02.28 | JeffM2501 | dude it's not you |
| 21:02.34 | Punkus | ok... |
| 21:03.39 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzeditw32/_test/BZEdit.nsi: this is a c++ program, we need to distribute msvcp71.dll also |
| 21:03.53 | Punkus | CIA-10: ?? |
| 21:04.01 | Punkus | is he a bot? =) |
| 21:04.03 | JeffM2501 | that's a commit message |
| 21:04.06 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:04.08 | Punkus | oh |
| 21:04.13 | JeffM2501 | it's a little gay |
| 21:05.00 | Punkus | where do i go and what do i download? |
| 21:05.01 | Punkus | lol |
| 21:05.06 | JeffM2501 | nowhere yet |
| 21:05.09 | JeffM2501 | just keep your pants on |
| 21:05.11 | Punkus | i got the exec from the forum |
| 21:05.17 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 21:05.18 | Punkus | oh... |
| 21:05.41 | DTRemenak | Punkus: if you want an instant fix, download the bzflag for windows installer, install it, and copy msvcp71.dll from the bzflag dir to the bzedit dir |
| 21:05.41 | Punkus | heh |
| 21:05.50 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, I'm uploading the file now |
| 21:06.03 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: I'm uploading a new BZEdit installer now, too :) |
| 21:06.21 | Punkus | LOL |
| 21:06.38 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/builds/libs/msvcp71.dll |
| 21:06.43 | JeffM2501 | just put that in the bzedit dir |
| 21:10.35 | Nidhoggr | got my bzflag t-shirt yesterday. wearing it today. very nice! |
| 21:11.45 | Punkus | it loads, but i cant do anything... heres a screen |
| 21:11.49 | Punkus | screeny |
| 21:12.07 | Punkus | http://linuxathome.ath.cx/~chris/Screenshot.png |
| 21:12.34 | Punkus | the menu doesn't work |
| 21:12.45 | DTRemenak | Punkus: that's what I get on latest wine also |
| 21:13.02 | Punkus | the menu doesn't work tho'... |
| 21:13.04 | Punkus | :( |
| 21:13.23 | DTRemenak | hm, the menus work for me |
| 21:13.37 | DTRemenak | but the renderer covers everything up |
| 21:15.04 | brlcad | Fire in the hole! |
| 21:15.44 | brlcad | you can't run in a hole |
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| 21:16.23 | brlcad | dang it.. I needed that |
| 21:16.41 | orange | ah, Friday |
| 21:16.44 | Punkus | that reminds me of ut2004 |
| 21:17.15 | sgk284 | ~Nidhoggr++ |
| 21:17.35 | Punkus | hehe |
| 21:17.53 | orange | hehe |
| 21:18.18 | brlcad | I scare me too |
| 21:18.50 | Grumbler | DTRemenak how did you break my 1.6.3 |
| 21:19.06 | DTRemenak | Grumbler: I broke it? |
| 21:19.14 | Grumbler | heh |
| 21:19.17 | Punkus | waaaiiiitt.... |
| 21:19.21 | Punkus | give that back |
| 21:19.36 | Punkus | MINE! |
| 21:19.52 | sgk284 | wasnt someone workign on a module for blender to edit maps? |
| 21:20.00 | Grumbler | purple_cow |
| 21:20.03 | Nidhoggr | what am I getting happy karma for now, sgk284 ? |
| 21:20.25 | sgk284 | buying a t shirt |
| 21:20.28 | Nidhoggr | :) |
| 21:20.30 | Nidhoggr | it's nice. |
| 21:20.30 | brlcad | ~shoot Punkus |
| 21:20.32 | ibot | ACTION shoots Punkus in the foot with a frozen turkey cannon! |
| 21:20.35 | Nidhoggr | very creative |
| 21:20.41 | Punkus | ~shoot Nidhoggr |
| 21:20.43 | ibot | ACTION shoots Nidhoggr in the eye with a cork gun! |
| 21:20.47 | Punkus | muhahaha! |
| 21:20.49 | sgk284 | ~punkus-- |
| 21:20.54 | sgk284 | ~shoot punkus |
| 21:20.56 | ibot | ACTION shoots punkus in the head with a phase pistol! |
| 21:20.57 | Grumbler | Nidhoggr< thank vicious for me....for changing the flap count to 3.....at least i think it was him |
| 21:21.06 | Nidhoggr | ok. :) |
| 21:21.11 | sgk284 | ~karma punkus |
| 21:21.11 | ibot | punkus has karma of -1 |
| 21:21.23 | Punkus | ~shoot sgk284 |
| 21:21.25 | ibot | ACTION shoots sgk284 in the head with a spitwad! |
| 21:21.30 | Nidhoggr | ~lart punkus |
| 21:21.39 | Grumbler | ~squirrel brlcad |
| 21:21.41 | ibot | ACTION send killer squirrels to attack brlcad |
| 21:21.43 | Punkus | ~insult Grumbler |
| 21:21.56 | Nidhoggr | hrm. I created the shoot factoid. i shall regret it, I'm sure. |
| 21:21.59 | Punkus | ~lart Nidhoggr |
| 21:22.04 | DTRemenak | yup. petrified guano. |
| 21:22.08 | Punkus | LOL |
| 21:22.12 | Nidhoggr | ~whaleslap punkus |
| 21:22.14 | ibot | ACTION slaps punkus upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 21:22.14 | sgk284 | brlcad, how could BRL-CAD possibly be beating BZFlag for activity on sf.net? Are you trying to say that you dont devote every hour of every day to bzflag? |
| 21:22.24 | sgk284 | ~brlcad++ |
| 21:22.28 | Punkus | ~whaleslap Nidhoggr |
| 21:22.30 | ibot | ACTION slaps Nidhoggr upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 21:22.31 | Punkus | take that! |
| 21:22.33 | brlcad | Punkus: enough |
| 21:22.38 | DTRemenak | sgk284: I think he's abandoned us. I haven't seen a brlcad commit in weeks! :) |
| 21:22.47 | sgk284 | heh |
| 21:22.56 | brlcad | sgk284: heh, sf stats have been frozen for weeks |
| 21:23.06 | sgk284 | oh heh |
| 21:23.21 | brlcad | they're supposed to bring the new stats on-line "any day now" |
| 21:23.28 | sgk284 | i was cheking on bzflag assuming we had to be #1 considering the million commit messages in my inbox |
| 21:23.33 | sgk284 | +/- 100,000 |
| 21:23.33 | DTRemenak | that means about a year, right? :) |
| 21:23.41 | brlcad | but yeah, I have been busy with brl-cad lately ;) |
| 21:24.00 | DTRemenak | brlcad: got that bzw export in yet? ;) |
| 21:24.07 | Grumbler | all that code grepping eh |
| 21:24.53 | brlcad | DTRemenak: not quite yet :) |
| 21:24.58 | brlcad | but on the list |
| 21:25.16 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 21:25.17 | brlcad | we've had several other immediate priorities since release |
| 21:26.02 | DTRemenak | I imagine :) |
| 21:28.32 | Punkus | in a zone, can u repeat team so that everyone spawns there? |
| 21:29.48 | DTRemenak | Punkus: try it and find out ;) |
| 21:31.26 | Pimpi | Punkus: not repeating, just add a list |
| 21:31.32 | Punkus | oh |
| 21:31.35 | Pimpi | team 1 2 3 4 |
| 21:31.44 | Punkus | team 0 1 2 3 4 |
| 21:31.49 | Punkus | like that |
| 21:31.54 | Pimpi | yep |
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| 21:32.34 | Grumbler | Nidhoggr< i have hit a bit of snag |
| 21:32.55 | Grumbler | what i want to do, and what is playable are two different things right now |
| 21:33.38 | Grumbler | i am considering a simple edit of the existing, with some tweaks from jpa_ ....then let it go |
| 21:33.47 | Pimpi | don't care for playability, make it just look cool ;) |
| 21:34.01 | Grumbler | he, the dragon is cool |
| 21:34.14 | Grumbler | not textured well, but framed cool |
| 21:34.22 | Pimpi | url? |
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| 21:36.46 | Grumbler | Pimpi< http://www.galkire.net/bz/view.jpg |
| 21:37.25 | Grumbler | picture two of those perched on a tower above water with small floating islands |
| 21:37.34 | Punkus | how did u render it? |
| 21:37.47 | Grumbler | one for red, one for green.....with eyes that pulse |
| 21:38.56 | Pimpi | wow, nice |
| 21:39.00 | Pimpi | coooooooool |
| 21:39.08 | Grumbler | haha |
| 21:39.12 | Punkus | its really cool |
| 21:39.32 | Punkus | how did u render it ? (dad wants to know ;)) |
| 21:39.49 | Grumbler | the problem is that its poly intensive |
| 21:39.56 | JeffM2501 | how many? |
| 21:40.18 | Grumbler | iirc ~2000 |
| 21:40.28 | Grumbler | i have decimated it down |
| 21:40.43 | Grumbler | and it looks "ok" down to 400 |
| 21:40.50 | JeffM2501 | even 2k isn't bad |
| 21:40.56 | JeffM2501 | well for modern hardware |
| 21:41.05 | brlcad | Grumbler: that's pretty scary |
| 21:41.07 | Grumbler | it doesnt play well |
| 21:41.08 | JeffM2501 | your average UT 2k4 model has like 18k |
| 21:41.09 | brlcad | what's the app? |
| 21:41.12 | JeffM2501 | sorry 1.8k |
| 21:41.17 | Grumbler | blender |
| 21:41.18 | brlcad | looks a little like blender |
| 21:41.23 | brlcad | ahh |
| 21:41.39 | Punkus | blender? the ut2004 vehicle? u play ut2004? |
| 21:42.02 | JeffM2501 | I have |
| 21:42.12 | Punkus | i have ut2004 demo |
| 21:42.16 | Pimpi | http://www.blender.org/ |
| 21:43.22 | Grumbler | as i tried to play with it, it gets very jittery when panning by the dragon, i assume at this point i have something wrong in overlaps, or normals, or well, something i dont know yet |
| 21:43.44 | JeffM2501 | what card do you ahve? |
| 21:43.47 | Pimpi | calling blender "the ut2004 vehicle" is like calling bz a nice chat tool |
| 21:43.50 | Grumbler | 5950 |
| 21:44.19 | JeffM2501 | 2k polys should NOT kill that card |
| 21:44.23 | JeffM2501 | not at all |
| 21:44.37 | JeffM2501 | blender and UT2k4 have nothing to do with each other |
| 21:44.42 | Grumbler | let me check the count again, maybe i am missing a comma |
| 21:44.44 | JeffM2501 | they were seperate sentances. |
| 21:44.56 | Punkus | im thinking of the vehicle blender |
| 21:45.03 | Punkus | in UT2k4 |
| 21:45.09 | JeffM2501 | ahhh |
| 21:45.11 | JeffM2501 | blender is an app |
| 21:45.14 | Punkus | i know |
| 21:45.15 | JeffM2501 | a 3d modeler |
| 21:45.18 | Punkus | a 3d one |
| 21:45.21 | Pimpi | JeffM2501: sure, but it was a strange comparison |
| 21:45.26 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:45.39 | Punkus | ya |
| 21:47.32 | Legoguy | it amazes me how unstable bzedit is |
| 21:47.54 | Legoguy | data loss galore |
| 21:47.59 | sgk284 | heh i just learned an important lesson in bz map making |
| 21:48.00 | Legoguy | :| |
| 21:48.02 | Punkus | can someone help me with spawning in bzflag? I have a zone (just fiddling) and when i spawn, i spawn partly in the block and jump out... I want it to spawn neatly on the block, so it doesn't jump out... |
| 21:48.02 | Punkus | options |
| 21:48.02 | Punkus | -j |
| 21:48.02 | Punkus | +r |
| 21:48.02 | Punkus | -ms 5 |
| 21:48.04 | Punkus | end |
| 21:48.05 | Punkus | zone |
| 21:48.07 | Punkus | position 0 50 32 |
| 21:48.09 | Punkus | size 14 14 4 |
| 21:48.11 | Punkus | team 0 1 2 3 4 |
| 21:48.13 | Punkus | end |
| 21:48.15 | Punkus | woop... |
| 21:48.18 | Punkus | world |
| 21:48.19 | Punkus | size 400 |
| 21:48.22 | Punkus | end |
| 21:48.26 | sgk284 | punkus! |
| 21:48.29 | Punkus | meshbox |
| 21:48.29 | Punkus | position 0 50 30 |
| 21:48.29 | Punkus | size 15 15 2 |
| 21:48.31 | Punkus | end |
| 21:48.33 | Legoguy | pastebin.com |
| 21:48.33 | Punkus | there |
| 21:48.35 | Punkus | like that... |
| 21:48.37 | Punkus | sry |
| 21:48.55 | Punkus | ack |
| 21:49.08 | sgk284 | everything specify in a map is actually twice the size that you specify... i dunno it just seems wierd to me |
| 21:49.16 | sgk284 | :) |
| 21:49.32 | Punkus | ok... |
| 21:49.39 | sgk284 | heh |
| 21:49.46 | Punkus | so the zone position will be what? |
| 21:50.33 | Grumbler | 1076 .....i think i just built it wrong......i started with two hex spheres and extruded from there, and i didnt learn about mirror stuff until after i was donw |
| 21:50.41 | Punkus | i tried it all over the place ( in Z that is) but it still does the same thing... |
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| 21:53.35 | javaJake | ~seen brad2901 |
| 21:53.37 | ibot | brad2901 is currently on #bzleague (2h 53m 34s) #botpark (2h 53m 34s) #bzflag (2h 53m 34s). Has said a total of 6 messages. Is idling for 2h 35m 41s |
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| 22:09.02 | Legoguy | argh how does one build CVS bzedit, i cant remember the correct sequence of aclocal, autogen, etc |
| 22:09.16 | JeffM2501 | bzedit? |
| 22:09.21 | Legoguy | yes |
| 22:09.23 | JeffM2501 | what one? |
| 22:09.25 | JeffM2501 | there are 2 |
| 22:09.26 | Legoguy | lin |
| 22:09.32 | JeffM2501 | same as you allways have |
| 22:09.38 | Legoguy | /cvsroot/bzedit |
| 22:09.38 | JeffM2501 | it hasnt' changed |
| 22:09.42 | Legoguy | umm |
| 22:09.47 | JeffM2501 | in a very long time |
| 22:09.49 | Legoguy | well Makefile.in doesn't exist anymore |
| 22:10.01 | JeffM2501 | and IIRC noone built it besides the capitan |
| 22:10.11 | JeffM2501 | didn't it use scons? |
| 22:10.17 | Legoguy | i haven't built it it before... |
| 22:10.21 | JeffM2501 | noone has |
| 22:10.36 | JeffM2501 | it uses old GTK stuff that was depriciated. |
| 22:11.15 | sgk284 | heh "/set _tankSpeed abc" does some crazy things |
| 22:11.34 | Legoguy | JeffM2501: according to changelog in cvs, it uses 2.0 |
| 22:11.37 | Legoguy | gtk2 |
| 22:11.40 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 22:11.47 | JeffM2501 | but it uses GTKGLArea |
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| 22:12.00 | JeffM2501 | and that api was depriciated |
| 22:12.01 | Legoguy | ... and that's bad? |
| 22:12.03 | Legoguy | oh |
| 22:12.04 | Legoguy | ok |
| 22:12.05 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 22:12.14 | JeffM2501 | since it's not existant in current GLK2.0 |
| 22:12.39 | Legoguy | was there _ever_ a stable bzedit that didn't cause dataloss, in windows or linux? |
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| 22:13.05 | JeffM2501 | dono about linux |
| 22:13.10 | JeffM2501 | and define data loss? |
| 22:13.20 | JeffM2501 | DTR fixed up some bugs in the windows one recently |
| 22:13.25 | JeffM2501 | it shouldnt leak mem anymore |
| 22:13.35 | JeffM2501 | none of them will hold 2.0 objects tho |
| 22:14.20 | Legoguy | ie open a map in win32 bzedit, edit something, say "oh crap i didnt mean to do that", realize undo isn't available, and reload the map - upon closing, boom. keeps writing garbage to the map file |
| 22:14.47 | JeffM2501 | that was probably due to the memory leaks |
| 22:14.56 | Legoguy | i just installed the new version |
| 22:15.09 | Legoguy | which is what the problem occurs in |
| 22:15.21 | JeffM2501 | then I'd say no to your question |
| 22:15.32 | JeffM2501 | the python one may be better |
| 22:15.50 | JeffM2501 | I haven't seen anyone build the linux one in like 2 maybe 3 years |
| 22:16.01 | Legoguy | that one works, but doesn't have quite as many desired features |
| 22:16.14 | JeffM2501 | like? |
| 22:16.18 | Legoguy | pybzedit at least starts in linux |
| 22:16.46 | Legoguy | mirror mainly |
| 22:17.00 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: there's a gtkglarea for gtk2 |
| 22:17.17 | purple_cow | it's just not really distributed anymore, since nothing uses it |
| 22:17.23 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 22:17.33 | JeffM2501 | well I was just going from mem |
| 22:17.46 | JeffM2501 | what is the thing your "sposed" to use for GL in GTK? |
| 22:17.55 | Legoguy | as i was saying, pybzedit starts with linux, but uses 50-100% cpu and freezes when opening a map |
| 22:18.05 | purple_cow | now there's this "GtkGLExt" API |
| 22:18.06 | JeffM2501 | nice |
| 22:18.19 | purple_cow | that just gives you a GL context on top of any widget |
| 22:18.22 | JeffM2501 | Legoguy, a 2.0 map? or a simple 1.x map? |
| 22:18.25 | purple_cow | which is handy |
| 22:18.29 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, nice |
| 22:18.41 | Legoguy | JeffM2501: it was designed for 1.10 |
| 22:18.58 | JeffM2501 | suxorz to the pybzedit then |
| 22:19.51 | Legoguy | so i guess i can make the conclusion that there is no stable map editor for any operating system |
| 22:19.56 | Legoguy | except for text editors |
| 22:20.03 | JeffM2501 | blender |
| 22:20.13 | JeffM2501 | dono how feature complete it is tho |
| 22:20.18 | Legoguy | bleh but that plugin isn't out yet is it? |
| 22:20.45 | JeffM2501 | define "out" |
| 22:20.59 | JeffM2501 | none of the editors were ever "released" |
| 22:21.14 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: it's pretty incomplete ;) |
| 22:21.15 | JeffM2501 | people just started using them and eventualy they got more features |
| 22:21.21 | JeffM2501 | will it save yet? |
| 22:21.34 | purple_cow | it'll save a few of the objects :P |
| 22:21.39 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 22:22.06 | JeffM2501 | wow, the ipod automaticly pauses when it detects the headpones are detached |
| 22:22.13 | purple_cow | it actually imports meshes, which is more than i can say for, well, anything ;) |
| 22:22.19 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:22.21 | JeffM2501 | that's a bigun |
| 22:26.14 | Legoguy | does it export primitives too? for those maps that don't need more than primitives |
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| 22:27.16 | JeffM2501 | doubt it does the teleporters |
| 22:27.17 | purple_cow | Legoguy: it'll do boxes, pyramids (mostly) and teleporters |
| 22:27.20 | purple_cow | no link support yet |
| 22:27.25 | Legoguy | cool |
| 22:27.27 | JeffM2501 | nice |
| 22:28.55 | Grumbler | grr, everytime i kick off bzfs now it kills my irc client..... |
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| 22:47.40 | spldart | Really quiet in here :( |
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| 22:53.05 | spldart | spldart hears it :confused: |
| 22:54.00 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 22:55.23 | SonofMan | in captivity since july 7, 2004 |
| 22:55.35 | SonofMan | will the lawful captive be delivered? |
| 22:55.47 | SonofMan | it sounds like i'm a pizza or something, hehee |
| 22:56.08 | spldart | :eek: |
| 22:56.21 | spldart | :crickets: |
| 22:56.38 | JeffM2501 | spldart, please don't use your visual emotes, noone else can see them |
| 22:57.06 | JeffM2501 | SonofMan, WTF? |
| 22:57.40 | SonofMan | well, i believe the part about being held captive is written in Isaiah |
| 22:58.01 | JeffM2501 | this is not the place for it |
| 22:58.15 | JeffM2501 | take it somewhere else |
| 22:58.18 | SonofMan | behold, i come as a theif, revelations, being held for burglury and theft |
| 22:58.29 | JeffM2501 | if you do not desist you will be removed. |
| 22:58.32 | SonofMan | however, the most they can prove is unlawful entry\ |
| 22:58.37 | JeffM2501 | bybye |
| 22:58.48 | SonofMan | wtf? |
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| 22:58.50 | *** kick/#bzflag [SonofMan!~JeffM@Patlabor221.active.supporter.pdpc] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
| 22:59.03 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!*@*.bzflag.bz] by JeffM2501 |
| 22:59.04 | spldart | habit |
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| 22:59.37 | JeffM2501 | the bzflag webchat is for the game. |
| 22:59.46 | spldart | yep |
| 22:59.54 | spldart | which is what I'm working on right now |
| 23:00.01 | JeffM2501 | I know you are |
| 23:00.03 | spldart | Improvements of my public server |
| 23:00.03 | JeffM2501 | it's cool |
| 23:00.09 | spldart | kew |
| 23:00.14 | JeffM2501 | the removal was for SonofMan |
| 23:00.17 | spldart | I know |
| 23:00.19 | SonofMan | son of sam? |
| 23:00.22 | spldart | he was being werid |
| 23:00.22 | JeffM2501 | you |
| 23:00.26 | spldart | wierd |
| 23:00.27 | SonofMan | no, you |
| 23:00.29 | JeffM2501 | most humas are |
| 23:00.35 | spldart | LOL |
| 23:00.49 | JeffM2501 | are you here just to mess with people if so, it will not be tolerated. |
| 23:01.08 | SonofMan | perhaps, you are against free speech, it sounds like your OP privilage has gone to your pea size brain |
| 23:01.19 | JeffM2501 | I am here to keep this channel on topic |
| 23:01.25 | spldart | IRC is free speech... This is on topic |
| 23:01.28 | JeffM2501 | you are free to speak your mind in the channels that are on your topic |
| 23:01.34 | SonofMan | perhaps you can suggest other channels? |
| 23:01.46 | JeffM2501 | they would not be on the freenode network |
| 23:01.52 | JeffM2501 | this is a network for open source development |
| 23:02.01 | SonofMan | cool, my favorite topic |
| 23:02.11 | SonofMan | linux rox |
| 23:02.18 | JeffM2501 | this is not a linux channel |
| 23:02.24 | SonofMan | bsd is cool to |
| 23:02.36 | spldart | Unless your running a bzflag server. |
| 23:02.37 | JeffM2501 | have you even played the game? |
| 23:02.51 | SonofMan | game? |
| 23:03.00 | Nidhoggr | this is not a "public channel" per-se. it's a channel for a mostly single purpose. the rules of free speech don't apply here. |
| 23:03.05 | JeffM2501 | this channel and the webchat you are susing is for the game bzflag |
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| 23:03.32 | SonofMan | so are you saying technology circumvents my constitutional rights? |
| 23:03.32 | spldart | And in which you are FREE to speak about anything directly related to BZFlag |
| 23:03.48 | JeffM2501 | well no not realy, we can ban for anything :) |
| 23:03.51 | SonofMan | code is law, lawarance lessig, great read |
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| 23:04.30 | spldart | Are you pretending to be a rebel without a cause SonofMan? |
| 23:04.40 | JeffM2501 | no, he's just trolling for bait |
| 23:04.48 | spldart | IC |
| 23:04.49 | JeffM2501 | just ignore him |
| 23:04.50 | spldart | Ok |
| 23:04.52 | spldart | done |
| 23:05.01 | DTRemenak | SonofMan: this is a private network. you can be removed for _any_ reason, including if JeffM2501's trigger finger is itchy. it falls under trespassing, not free speech - you are given permission to be here, conditionally. if you don't satisfy the conditions, you're gone. |
| 23:05.06 | SonofMan | spldart: no shit, i am the second comming |
| 23:05.19 | JeffM2501 | please watch your language |
| 23:05.27 | SonofMan | yessum master |
| 23:05.39 | JeffM2501 | this is a famialy oriented channel |
| 23:05.42 | blast007 | :/ |
| 23:05.43 | SonofMan | jesus said dung, i can say shit |
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| 23:05.51 | JeffM2501 | bye bye |
| 23:05.54 | Nidhoggr | ugh. |
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| 23:06.10 | creeperz | who was that? |
| 23:06.14 | Nidhoggr | some jerk |
| 23:06.15 | Grumbler | finally |
| 23:06.16 | JeffM2501 | some troll |
| 23:06.22 | creeperz | oh |
| 23:06.25 | Grumbler | been here since the morning |
| 23:06.25 | creeperz | what a troll |
| 23:06.27 | spldart | Troll psuedo intellectual |
| 23:06.33 | creeperz | lol |
| 23:06.35 | JeffM2501 | woulda been faster if ya all hadn't said I was triger happy :) |
| 23:06.53 | Nidhoggr | heh |
| 23:07.02 | JeffM2501 | even tho I have this realy cool red ban button with a plastic cover |
| 23:07.04 | creeperz | what all did he do? |
| 23:07.13 | JeffM2501 | creeperz, don't worry about it |
| 23:07.16 | Nidhoggr | he was just spouting stupidity. |
| 23:07.17 | creeperz | alright |
| 23:07.18 | JeffM2501 | normal troll stuff |
| 23:07.29 | Nidhoggr | "you can't stop my free speech", etc. |
| 23:07.37 | creeperz | JeffM2501: what all does a troll do |
| 23:07.39 | creeperz | lol |
| 23:07.45 | JeffM2501 | google |
| 23:07.50 | Nidhoggr | ~troll |
| 23:07.51 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, troll is a race on some muds; a guy under a bridge: an annoying robot; a port scanner, or somebody faking being clueless to be shown the One Linux Way so he can argue against it for his psychology thesis on linux advocates, or an employee of trolltech, or at http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/27/51233/2979 or ... |
| 23:07.52 | JeffM2501 | read for yourself |
| 23:08.42 | creeperz | hm |
| 23:09.00 | creeperz | i googled for "daily troll doings" and got a page with a bunch of old people on it :-/ |
| 23:09.17 | creeperz | it doesnt even say "troll" anywhere in the page either |
| 23:09.21 | JeffM2501 | there ya go |
| 23:09.31 | JeffM2501 | just search wikipedia |
| 23:09.39 | JeffM2501 | we are not an ecyclopedia |
| 23:09.40 | JeffM2501 | it is |
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| 23:10.12 | creeperz | strange |
| 23:12.00 | spldart | BZ question..... In my -public message... What is the most important info for people to see when they look throught the server list and how much is to much? |
| 23:12.38 | spldart | Right now "Spldart's home. TimeTrials by LouMan |
| 23:12.38 | spldart | with mods. Test." |
| 23:12.46 | DTRemenak | spldart: server name and map name are the most important. everything else can be determined by selecting it. |
| 23:12.53 | JeffM2501 | player count is also important |
| 23:13.00 | JeffM2501 | as it gets sorted by that |
| 23:13.06 | JeffM2501 | too long and the rest won't show |
| 23:14.29 | spldart | I was thinking "Spldart's place. Mod TimeTrials map by LouMan. All rogues." |
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| 23:16.27 | DTRemenak | spldart: that's appropriate |
| 23:16.58 | spldart | Thanks |
| 23:17.54 | JeffM2501 | I allways find that if you put "make with the goat cheese pizza" at the end, it helps as well ;) |
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| 23:19.04 | BZBot1 | whoa.... |
| 23:19.10 | spldart | ?confused? |
| 23:19.18 | JeffM2501 | I was joking |
| 23:19.23 | spldart | oh ;) |
| 23:19.32 | spldart | Now I got to work on my sever message |
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| 23:24.04 | JeffM2501 | dang bzbot is taken :( |
| 23:25.03 | BZBot1 | Added server some_server to chan some_servertest |
| 23:28.35 | menotume | ahhhhh .. --DefconLevel; |
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| 23:28.49 | menotume | uhoh - here she is |
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| 23:34.19 | CIA-10 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzeditw32/BZEdit32/BZEdit32Doc.cpp: prompt before saving before quitting, rather than saving unconditionally |
| 23:35.06 | spldart | Is it best to use multiple -admsg's back to back in my .conf file if I need to or should I let it scroll to the next line if it doesn't quite fit one? |
| 23:35.18 | spldart | Like ^that^ sentence |
| 23:35.19 | spldart | hehe |
| 23:35.39 | DTRemenak | spldart: it's cleaner to specify where you want the linebreaks |
| 23:35.46 | DTRemenak | doesn't matter to the code though |
| 23:35.49 | spldart | ok |
| 23:36.27 | spldart | I am doing line breaks and centering on the -srvmsg. I'll go ahead and do it to the -admsg too |
| 23:36.32 | spldart | thanks |
| 23:36.49 | JeffM2501 | man is bot debuging slow |
| 23:38.06 | JeffM2501 | guess it wouldn't help that the server it's connecting to just died |
| 23:39.18 | blast007 | :) |
| 23:40.47 | spldart | ooooOOOooooo I like how it's coming out |
| 23:41.55 | spldart | Very brief server description, props to LouMan, 2 map hints and a reminder that peeps can /report if they want... Any other info I should include in server/admsg 's? |
| 23:42.17 | *** join/#bzflag cortana1 (~ListServe@users.gibbscam.com) |
| 23:44.34 | blast007 | some people put their policies in the server message too, like for cheating, swearing, etc, and list how many warnings (if any) are given before a ban, etc |
| 23:44.37 | menotume | brlcad: do you have a 30" monitor ? |
| 23:44.42 | blast007 | but that might be better for a /help topic |
| 23:46.17 | spldart | I put swearing in there. |
| 23:46.24 | spldart | Nothing about ban though |
| 23:46.25 | spldart | Hrm |
| 23:46.33 | spldart | I have a 32" monitor |
| 23:47.33 | spldart | wait... Monitor question wasn't at me.. Sorry. |
| 23:49.26 | *** join/#bzflag orchid (orchid@orchid.user) |
| 23:56.45 | spldart | shweet... ready to apply |
