| 00:00.17 | brlcad | heh, http://www.olene.net/linux.html |
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| 00:02.13 | JeffM2501 | ohh it's so true :) |
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| 00:09.27 | spldart | Funny |
| 00:09.42 | spldart | I never could get the hang of linux |
| 00:11.29 | spldart | LOL... Was checking on my server and caught somebody else trying to land on a pyramid and dying :-D |
| 00:11.48 | spldart | land on the tip I should say |
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| 00:44.29 | spldart | *trying to download windoze 3.11 for nostalgas sake* |
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| 00:59.30 | JeffM2501 | just install linux |
| 01:00.26 | spldart | You support bzflag on windows 3.11... Right? ;) |
| 01:02.36 | JeffM2501 | w3.11 has no GL |
| 01:20.53 | spldart | Hrm... backbuild gl for 95 to 3.11 hehehe |
| 01:21.14 | JeffM2501 | good luck geting the source. |
| 01:21.20 | spldart | LOL |
| 01:21.33 | spldart | You know I'm kidding right? |
| 01:21.39 | JeffM2501 | yup |
| 01:22.20 | JeffM2501 | hah, call of honor says he was going to be an admin on your server |
| 01:26.22 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (7 files in 5 dirs): let there be openGL |
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| 01:58.14 | spldart | Will I ever have a score more than -76? :-( |
| 01:58.27 | spldart | oh? where is he saying that? |
| 02:06.15 | JeffM2501 | on bzbb |
| 02:06.38 | spldart | Found it... Responded |
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| 02:32.30 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (6 files in 4 dirs): |
| 02:32.31 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: GL window scaling |
| 02:32.31 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: View rotation and zoom |
| 02:32.31 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: some basic axes for drawing in the non OS specific part |
| 02:42.19 | JeffM2501 | well thats engouh banging on that for one day |
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| 02:44.24 | MeBigFatGuy | http://freenode.net/policy.shtml#channelownership |
| 02:50.08 | orange | I am not sure I understand why they recommend that. |
| 02:50.11 | orange | What's the advantage? |
| 02:50.23 | sgk284 | is jeff workign on a map editor? |
| 02:50.34 | MeBigFatGuy | new version of bzflag |
| 02:50.42 | MeBigFatGuy | that is well designed |
| 02:51.48 | MeBigFatGuy | or at least thats the theory |
| 02:51.57 | sgk284 | yea i know that part :) but looking at that last commit it says /tools/mapedit |
| 02:52.06 | sgk284 | g3d should work out nicely i think |
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| 03:23.55 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (6 files in 5 dirs): set up client IRC connects and callsign setup |
| 03:24.27 | sgk284 | JeffM2501, you making a map editor? |
| 03:24.42 | JeffM2501 | a framework |
| 03:24.46 | sgk284 | k |
| 03:24.59 | sgk284 | i saw that commit earlier, didnt know what to think:) |
| 03:25.12 | JeffM2501 | it'll be an editor |
| 03:25.32 | JeffM2501 | even has hooks for the "other" oses |
| 03:25.53 | sgk284 | other like the BSDs? |
| 03:26.02 | sgk284 | or others as in anything non-MS |
| 03:26.29 | JeffM2501 | like anything anyone wants to make an app and view class for |
| 03:26.50 | sgk284 | k :) |
| 03:26.57 | sgk284 | ~JeffM2501++ |
| 03:27.12 | JeffM2501 | never said what maps it wold edit :) |
| 03:27.17 | sgk284 | haha |
| 03:29.08 | JeffM2501 | I need a UI monkey too |
| 03:32.34 | JeffM2501 | or at least somone who knows GTK and/or OSX |
| 03:33.44 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/Permissions.cxx: don't bother doing a search for empty strings ( may prevent a crash ). |
| 03:37.29 | MeBigFatGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.35 | MeBigFatGuy | :) |
| 03:37.48 | MeBigFatGuy | i've been munchinized? |
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| 03:40.04 | cosmos | didnt take long for overlord to take the top again heh |
| 03:42.44 | JeffM2501 | bzbb mac crash post, somone mentioned that working on new exploding cams when there is a crash is bad form on the developers parts |
| 03:43.09 | purple_cow | how dare you guys not write perfect code?! |
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| 03:44.24 | JeffM2501 | how dare a dev who dosn't even have a mac, work on something that is not the mac crash |
| 03:45.31 | brlcad | damn straight |
| 03:46.14 | JeffM2501 | I still bet it's borked 10.2 to 10.3 upgrades |
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| 04:11.49 | Jormungandr | Question, does then server write to the groupdb file, and if so does it loss this after reboot of the server? |
| 04:12.11 | JeffM2501 | no it dosn't |
| 04:12.20 | JeffM2501 | there is no in game interface for making new groups |
| 04:14.04 | Jormungandr | Ok, so say I were make someone an op, i have to manually put that in the file |
| 04:14.35 | JeffM2501 | no that's the users file |
| 04:14.39 | JeffM2501 | the groups file has no per user setings |
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| 04:15.02 | JeffM2501 | the groups file just says what each group can do |
| 04:15.06 | JeffM2501 | not who is in it |
| 04:15.12 | JeffM2501 | each user has a list of groups they belong to |
| 04:15.24 | JeffM2501 | the userdb is updated everytime it's changed |
| 04:16.32 | Jormungandr | I seem to be loosing user group statis when i reboot the server |
| 04:16.55 | JeffM2501 | does the server have permisions to write to the file? |
| 04:19.40 | Jormungandr | Think that was it, should have been the first thing i checked, thanks jeff |
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| 04:30.53 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/inc/mapedit.h: Edit meny, cut, copy, paste, undo hooks |
| 04:31.05 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (4 files in 3 dirs): Edit meny, cut, copy, paste, undo hooks |
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| 04:37.31 | BZ41 | # getcallsign |
| 04:37.39 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (6 files in 4 dirs): file open,save,new, hooks |
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| 04:51.58 | Thumper_ | btw is there a way to disable the exploding cam view - I'm gonna lose my lunch :) |
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| 04:52.05 | Thumper_ | or whatever it was I ate last |
| 04:52.15 | uso | lol |
| 04:52.23 | jpa_ | theyre working on it :) |
| 04:52.32 | jpa_ | you can remove it using cvs locally |
| 04:52.49 | uso | i've patched it off |
| 04:53.17 | uso | it also made me dizzy |
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| 04:54.14 | uso | even the going into ground after i'm dead annoys my stomach |
| 04:57.41 | uso | bzflag gets hanging heavily if it lost connection to server, have to kill it hard (-9) |
| 04:58.29 | uso | and X server is somewhat crippled after that |
| 04:58.52 | spldart | I hate the hard hangs :( |
| 04:59.06 | SportChick | Thumper_: sorry - apparently they both did it |
| 05:01.00 | Aribeth | hi SP |
| 05:01.34 | spldart | Hi me? Hi |
| 05:01.51 | Aribeth | hi spldart |
| 05:02.06 | Aribeth | hi SportChick |
| 05:02.27 | uso | Thumper_: are you compiling from cvs? |
| 05:06.26 | SportChick | hi ari |
| 05:06.37 | uso | iirc "cvs up -j2.4 -j2.2 Player.cxx" and "cvs up -j2.3 -j2.2 Player.h" did it for me |
| 05:06.58 | SportChick | Aribeth: as if my jitter problem weren't bad enough, now i'm crashing thumper's server everytime I try to globally id |
| 05:07.18 | JeffM2501 | he has STL issues I think |
| 05:08.25 | sgk284 | hey sporty |
| 05:08.51 | sgk284 | whats this exploding cam view i keep hearing about? |
| 05:11.32 | spldart | You removed the trees Aribeth? |
| 05:12.48 | spldart | I thought I saw them on the board and I was going to experiment with them. |
| 05:14.12 | Aribeth | sorry to hear that SportChick |
| 05:15.21 | Aribeth | spldart, the trees are still on the map |
| 05:15.34 | Aribeth | im running 2 versions of the map |
| 05:15.46 | spldart | Oh.. My bad... I was on the wrong one then |
| 05:16.40 | Aribeth | JeffM2501, that oak tree is awsom |
| 05:16.41 | spldart | I've spent the last 6 hours experimenting with objects some more and trying to learn 2.0 map making. I kind of enjoy it. |
| 05:17.00 | JeffM2501 | it's just a quake model |
| 05:17.34 | Thumper_ | use: yes |
| 05:17.37 | Thumper_ | uso:* |
| 05:17.44 | Thumper_ | SportChick: no problem |
| 05:17.52 | Thumper_ | My 2.0.0 windows laptop connects fine |
| 05:19.39 | MeBigFatGuy | hmmm getting bad image size |
| 05:19.41 | MeBigFatGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:20.01 | MeBigFatGuy | scaledWidth and scaledHeight are huge negative numbers |
| 05:20.29 | JeffM2501 | that would be bad |
| 05:21.55 | MeBigFatGuy | OpenGLTexture.setupImage |
| 05:22.25 | JeffM2501 | what were the origonal hieights? |
| 05:23.22 | MeBigFatGuy | hmm |
| 05:23.24 | MeBigFatGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:23.35 | MeBigFatGuy | maxTextureSize is getting -858993460 |
| 05:23.49 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 05:23.54 | orange | do dvi to vga adapters give satisfactory results, if anyone has used one? |
| 05:23.58 | JeffM2501 | it's usualy no more then 2048 |
| 05:24.01 | spldart | Hrm... i can't seem to use the oak2.bzw without crashing bzfs. I placed the .png's in the Data folder. but what about the .mtl, .obj and .lwo files ? |
| 05:24.07 | JeffM2501 | that can return oddly if GL isn't inited yet |
| 05:24.17 | JeffM2501 | like there is no current context |
| 05:25.56 | uso | SportChick: jitter in the screen view if your tank is moving? |
| 05:26.10 | MeBigFatGuy | well that fixes it, i guess. |
| 05:26.39 | orange | any recommendations for a decent, reasonably priced (~150) video card that will do dual-head in linux? |
| 05:26.48 | uso | oops, has gone to sleep |
| 05:27.35 | JeffM2501 | all the nividias will |
| 05:27.43 | JeffM2501 | FX5200 |
| 05:27.51 | JeffM2501 | they should be way under 150 |
| 05:28.34 | spldart | ATI All in Wonders use DVI adapters for VGA monitors. I get satisfactory results. But of course a DVI monitor would be better. |
| 05:28.55 | MeBigFatGuy | i stick with nvidia |
| 05:28.57 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/ogl/OpenGLTexture.cxx: for some reason glGetIntegerv(GL_MAX_TEXTURE_SIZE, &maxTextureSize); is returning a huge negative number. If it is set max to 512, which is bz's max anyway. Not sure why this is happening. |
| 05:28.57 | uso | JeffM2501: but you need binary drivers? |
| 05:28.58 | MeBigFatGuy | i'd |
| 05:29.12 | JeffM2501 | use, yeah you need that for ATI too |
| 05:29.23 | JeffM2501 | so no big whoop |
| 05:29.42 | orange | thanks for the direction, I'll continue my search |
| 05:29.51 | JeffM2501 | a 256 meg dual head FX5200 is like 70$ |
| 05:29.55 | uso | for radeon it's included in XFree86 |
| 05:30.02 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 05:30.03 | JeffM2501 | no they arn't |
| 05:30.07 | JeffM2501 | that is DRI |
| 05:30.12 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't do a full GL spec |
| 05:30.17 | JeffM2501 | the drivers suck HARD |
| 05:30.24 | JeffM2501 | ATI has compliant binary drivers |
| 05:30.42 | spldart | agree orange |
| 05:30.50 | JeffM2501 | the nvidia drivers may be binary but the just bloddy work |
| 05:30.58 | spldart | I had a $#^@^& ofa time setting up a all in wonder in linux |
| 05:31.23 | JeffM2501 | the go isn't a bad card at all |
| 05:31.30 | uso | and i'm avoiding nvidia as much if i can |
| 05:31.32 | JeffM2501 | the lapy chipsets are wierd |
| 05:31.51 | JeffM2501 | they arn't fully supported by nvidia since the lapy mfg mods the setup |
| 05:31.58 | JeffM2501 | uso, then your loooking at ATI |
| 05:32.04 | JeffM2501 | have fun geting it to work |
| 05:32.16 | uso | but the heck to check and do on each kernel upgrade ... :( |
| 05:32.32 | JeffM2501 | you want ease of upgrade? or stability? |
| 05:32.44 | uso | both :) |
| 05:32.51 | JeffM2501 | install windows |
| 05:32.56 | uso | lol |
| 05:33.07 | JeffM2501 | read a comparison between the 3 ati drivers |
| 05:33.13 | uso | that's more neither ;) |
| 05:33.16 | JeffM2501 | the ATI binarys, the pay X11 |
| 05:33.22 | JeffM2501 | and DRI |
| 05:33.25 | JeffM2501 | DRI was the words |
| 05:33.27 | JeffM2501 | worst |
| 05:33.31 | JeffM2501 | wasn't compliant |
| 05:33.40 | JeffM2501 | screwed up on most multi texture stuff |
| 05:33.45 | JeffM2501 | and was the slowest |
| 05:33.55 | JeffM2501 | the ATI binarys were the best |
| 05:34.07 | JeffM2501 | actualy my windows machines run fine |
| 05:34.12 | JeffM2501 | how many windows machines to you run? |
| 05:34.41 | uso | only two |
| 05:34.55 | JeffM2501 | and you have problems with them? |
| 05:34.57 | orange | any brand, as long as it has fx 5200 (except lapy)? |
| 05:34.58 | uso | but have never got a windows upgrade to run ;) |
| 05:35.13 | JeffM2501 | odd |
| 05:35.15 | sgk284 | quick question... are there any other attributes an object can have in a map other then textures and physics drivers? (assuming the other obvious attributes like position) |
| 05:35.17 | JeffM2501 | runs for me all the time |
| 05:35.38 | JeffM2501 | sgk284, the drive/shoot thru flags |
| 05:35.41 | uso | neither from nt to 2000, nor from 200 to xp |
| 05:35.45 | JeffM2501 | uso, sounds like you've made up your mind |
| 05:35.51 | sgk284 | k |
| 05:35.55 | JeffM2501 | so have fun with your 7000 or 9200 |
| 05:35.59 | uso | may be :) |
| 05:36.09 | JeffM2501 | why ask for sugestions then? |
| 05:36.20 | uso | i use windows were i'm forced to |
| 05:36.51 | uso | thought it were asked for suggestions for linux, weren't it? |
| 05:37.19 | JeffM2501 | I was |
| 05:37.26 | JeffM2501 | you've made up your mind about your card |
| 05:37.29 | JeffM2501 | that's what I meant |
| 05:37.43 | JeffM2501 | why ask for sugestions if you know your going ATI |
| 05:37.50 | JeffM2501 | since there are only 2 companys to chose from |
| 05:38.28 | JeffM2501 | looks like you can get a 256meg 9200 for about 80$ |
| 05:38.40 | uso | i did not know that the radeon drivers of XFree are so bad |
| 05:39.15 | JeffM2501 | they are horible |
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| 05:39.22 | uso | i have a 9200, and it is running bzflag better than tyhe GeForce2 Go |
| 05:39.37 | JeffM2501 | well yeah that makes sense |
| 05:39.43 | uso | with the XFree drivers |
| 05:39.44 | JeffM2501 | a GF2 is way slower then a 9200 |
| 05:40.02 | JeffM2501 | the 9200 is about the same as a FC5200 |
| 05:40.14 | JeffM2501 | FX5200 |
| 05:40.17 | uso | so it may be worth it to try the ati drivers |
| 05:40.29 | uso | is it this hal module? |
| 05:40.33 | JeffM2501 | the GF2 go compares to like a radeon 7000 VE |
| 05:40.52 | JeffM2501 | ATI has driver support for all cards 8000 and above |
| 05:41.01 | JeffM2501 | they do not support the 7000 series |
| 05:41.09 | JeffM2501 | nvidia supports all chipsets back to the TNT |
| 05:41.33 | JeffM2501 | DRI supports what ever chipsets they can poke together on trial and error |
| 05:41.43 | uso | iirc i get about 1200 fps on the geforce and 2000 fps on the 9200 with glxgears |
| 05:41.52 | JeffM2501 | well sure |
| 05:42.02 | JeffM2501 | you should ge a lot more on the 9200 |
| 05:42.13 | JeffM2501 | you can't compare the 9200 and a little go2 |
| 05:42.17 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/Player.cxx: still not right. but obviously wrong here |
| 05:42.56 | JeffM2501 | the current nivida "cheap" laptop chipset is a FX5200 |
| 05:43.18 | uso | my laptop is about 4 years old |
| 05:43.18 | JeffM2501 | doubt dri supports multi head as well |
| 05:43.25 | JeffM2501 | that would make sense |
| 05:43.33 | JeffM2501 | when it came out it was an ok chip |
| 05:43.42 | JeffM2501 | one of the first lapy chips with a GPU |
| 05:43.43 | spldart | Night all |
| 05:43.49 | uso | was the best afair |
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| 05:44.04 | JeffM2501 | no they had mobile quadros at the same time |
| 05:44.16 | JeffM2501 | it was a good mobile mainstream chip |
| 05:44.31 | uso | yes, but no dells |
| 05:44.40 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 05:44.41 | JeffM2501 | so |
| 05:44.51 | JeffM2501 | the 9200 is a much more modern chipset |
| 05:44.54 | uso | and none i got 1600x1220 for a payable price |
| 05:44.54 | JeffM2501 | it even has shaders |
| 05:45.03 | uso | 1200 |
| 05:45.24 | JeffM2501 | your 9200 card dosn't do dual head? |
| 05:45.31 | uso | ok, so i need to check for the ati drivers |
| 05:46.24 | uso | it has 2 video outs, but the second is limited to 1024x768 i think |
| 05:46.36 | JeffM2501 | that would not make sense |
| 05:46.42 | JeffM2501 | usualy it's the same on all |
| 05:46.47 | JeffM2501 | since they share the same ramdac |
| 05:47.06 | JeffM2501 | unless the card is outa ram |
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| 05:47.25 | uso | i'm not sure, maybe it was 1280x1024, but the second out is limited |
| 05:47.35 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 05:47.42 | uso | has only 128mb |
| 05:47.52 | JeffM2501 | still that's plenty |
| 05:48.20 | uso | have to double check it |
| 05:48.32 | JeffM2501 | if it had like 16 then maybe |
| 05:48.38 | JeffM2501 | 32 could get close |
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| 05:48.52 | JeffM2501 | but anything 64 ore more can do very large reses |
| 05:48.54 | uso | is the ati driver that "hal" module or is this another driver? |
| 05:49.06 | JeffM2501 | I dono |
| 05:49.13 | JeffM2501 | go to ATI and see |
| 05:49.17 | JeffM2501 | it's not part of debian |
| 05:49.23 | JeffM2501 | it will "taint" your kernel |
| 05:49.32 | uso | i know :) |
| 05:49.45 | uso | does the nvidia also |
| 05:49.52 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 05:49.54 | orange | does the FX5500 buy you anything useful over the FX5200? |
| 05:49.56 | JeffM2501 | anything non open source does |
| 05:50.05 | JeffM2501 | orange, it's faster |
| 05:50.15 | orange | not much more $$... maybe $10 more |
| 05:50.25 | JeffM2501 | 5500? |
| 05:50.32 | JeffM2501 | never heard of that one |
| 05:50.43 | JeffM2501 | you sure it's not 5600? |
| 05:50.45 | orange | http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-164-017&depa=0 |
| 05:50.59 | JeffM2501 | eww newegg |
| 05:51.12 | orange | really? I've never had trouble with the egg |
| 05:51.24 | JeffM2501 | maybe it's a new 5200 replacement chipset |
| 05:51.50 | JeffM2501 | the 5200 is a bit long in the tooth |
| 05:51.57 | orange | 5600's are a good bit more |
| 05:52.03 | JeffM2501 | 5600's are old |
| 05:52.13 | JeffM2501 | this is probalby a downclocked 5700 core |
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| 05:53.46 | uso | does bzflag run on win98se? |
| 05:53.53 | JeffM2501 | it can |
| 05:53.57 | JeffM2501 | if you so wish |
| 05:54.02 | uso | :) |
| 05:54.31 | JeffM2501 | they say a 5500 performs like an overclocked 5200 |
| 05:54.31 | JeffM2501 | but a bit faster |
| 05:54.31 | JeffM2501 | I don't know why you'd want to run it on 98 |
| 05:54.34 | JeffM2501 | unless you like pain |
| 05:55.00 | uso | there's a game loader aka win98se on the box with the radeon 9200, i could test frame rates under windows ... |
| 05:55.16 | orange | JeffM2501: thanks for your help |
| 05:55.23 | orange | ~jeffm2501++ |
| 05:55.28 | JeffM2501 | it's not realy a fair comparison |
| 05:55.40 | JeffM2501 | 98 dosn't have a real 32 bit kernel |
| 05:55.50 | JeffM2501 | so it's about 30% slower then an NT based OS |
| 05:56.08 | uso | dont have xp on this box |
| 05:56.37 | uso | it's only for my old games (Age of Empires) |
| 05:56.55 | uso | but ati drivers are installed :) |
| 05:57.00 | JeffM2501 | ahh the 5500 will have a wider bus then the 5200 |
| 05:57.02 | JeffM2501 | I'd go for it |
| 05:57.11 | orange | yeah, it looks good |
| 05:57.13 | JeffM2501 | hey run what ever you want USO |
| 05:57.49 | uso | sorry, didnt wanted to bother you |
| 05:58.35 | JeffM2501 | it's what ever floats your boat |
| 05:58.46 | JeffM2501 | the 9200 will be faster then the go |
| 05:59.04 | JeffM2501 | any card by ATI or nvidia made in a year should do dual head |
| 05:59.10 | JeffM2501 | never done dual head on ATI |
| 05:59.13 | JeffM2501 | but it's suposed to work |
| 05:59.19 | uso | i'll try the ati drivers for linux next days |
| 05:59.31 | JeffM2501 | and 98 is a total joke :) |
| 06:00.13 | uso | i said it's only the game loader for my old games, i do not use it for real work |
| 06:00.47 | uso | and may be i check prices for a nvidia card |
| 06:01.30 | uso | at least i know how to compile the nvidia drivers for linux :) |
| 06:01.35 | JeffM2501 | still, I would not burden any system with 9x, that's just cruel and unusual :) |
| 06:02.10 | JeffM2501 | it's just screaming for the cool embrace of death |
| 06:02.48 | uso | the box was installed before win200 came out :) |
| 06:02.57 | JeffM2501 | so |
| 06:03.01 | uso | and old nt was a pain for games |
| 06:03.15 | JeffM2501 | you upgrade linuxes don't you? ;) |
| 06:03.31 | uso | lol, dayly :) |
| 06:03.44 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 06:03.53 | JeffM2501 | how do you get any work done? |
| 06:04.24 | uso | not really dayly, but often |
| 06:04.31 | uso | dabian makes it easy |
| 06:04.39 | uso | debian |
| 06:04.40 | JeffM2501 | yeah but it still takes time |
| 06:05.05 | uso | a few seconds every week or so |
| 06:05.15 | JeffM2501 | do you get any advantage out of it? |
| 06:05.30 | uso | security |
| 06:05.43 | JeffM2501 | linux is that unsecure that you have to patch it weekly? |
| 06:06.25 | uso | mostly not linux itself, the applications like browsers or so |
| 06:06.42 | JeffM2501 | well that's not the kernel |
| 06:07.43 | uso | no, but the kernel will not be upgraded every week |
| 06:07.56 | uso | that coasts a bit more time |
| 06:08.01 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 06:08.07 | JeffM2501 | I just have auto updates |
| 06:08.14 | JeffM2501 | they happen in the background |
| 06:08.54 | uso | i prefer to compile my own kernel |
| 06:09.09 | JeffM2501 | I prefer to keep working ;) |
| 06:09.21 | brlcad | MeBigFatGuy: maybe a GLsizei is not the same as GLint on that impl. |
| 06:09.34 | uso | i could use the debian kernel, this would also go automatically with no additional time requirement |
| 06:09.36 | MeBigFatGuy | perhaps |
| 06:09.59 | JeffM2501 | a sizeI is now a 64 in vc7 IIRC |
| 06:10.12 | brlcad | not that it's likely overflowing a 32bit int even.. |
| 06:10.14 | JeffM2501 | or at least 'can" be |
| 06:10.38 | brlcad | unless if GLint is 16 .. that'd suck |
| 06:10.40 | JeffM2501 | well it could not be seting the net bit |
| 06:10.45 | JeffM2501 | eww |
| 06:12.19 | brlcad | the getTexImage routines do specify that the size is a GLsizei and not a GLint .. easy to check/fix |
| 06:12.35 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03dbrosius * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/Player.cxx: ok, this is as close as my lil brain can make it |
| 06:15.03 | brlcad | hmm.. "If the GL version is 1.1 or greater, use GL_PROXY_TEXTURE_2D to dermine if a texture is too large. See glTexImage2D." |
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| 06:19.41 | brlcad | http://www.linuxonpower.com/ |
| 06:21.45 | JeffM2501 | do you want a segway THAT bad? |
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| 06:29.59 | brlcad | naw, I'd just buy one if I did |
| 06:30.40 | brlcad | but would be a fun competition |
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| 06:42.39 | BZ41 | # getcallsign |
| 06:42.48 | JeffM2501 | test |
| 06:42.56 | JeffM2501 | sweet :) |
| 06:43.12 | JeffM2501 | have a 3d app geting chat lines from here :) |
| 06:44.10 | wegstar | ooh |
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| 06:44.41 | BZ41 | # getcallsign |
| 06:45.14 | JeffM2501 | I so very much need to give it a menu |
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| 06:51.02 | lasindi | Hi all, after I upgraded to the 2.6.11 kernel, I notice that BZFlag gets really choppy if I have an IRC client running at the same time. This didn't happen with other kernels, and I notice no problems other games like America's Army. Any ideas on why this happens? |
| 06:51.08 | *** join/#bzflag BZ337 (~BZ337@adsl-68-126-250-156.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 06:51.08 | BZ337 | # getcallsign |
| 06:51.52 | *** join/#bzflag LithiumBot (~ListServe@adsl-68-126-250-156.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 06:51.57 | LithiumBot | # repop |
| 06:52.12 | *** join/#bzflag BZ530 (~BZ530@adsl-68-126-250-156.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 06:52.13 | BZ530 | # getcallsign |
| 06:52.14 | LithiumBot | BZ530, Noob_6334 |
| 06:52.14 | Noob_6334 | # client add |
| 06:55.09 | lasindi | Hello, anybody? |
| 06:56.31 | MeBigFatGuy | yo |
| 06:56.34 | JeffM2501 | never heard of the problem |
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| 06:56.44 | BZ87 | # getcallsign |
| 06:56.45 | LithiumBot | BZ87, BabyCakes_9170 |
| 06:56.46 | BabyCakes_9170 | # client add |
| 06:56.58 | lasindi | JeffM2501: Which kernel are you using? |
| 06:57.15 | JeffM2501 | 2.6 something |
| 06:57.22 | JeffM2501 | doubt it's the kernel |
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| 06:57.50 | BZ755 | # getcallsign |
| 06:57.50 | lasindi | Well, as soon as I changed the kernel I have this problem. |
| 06:57.51 | LithiumBot | BZ755, TheLittlestGunman_1479 |
| 06:57.52 | TheLittlestGunma | # client add |
| 06:58.06 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure it was the fact of changing kernels |
| 06:58.10 | JeffM2501 | not the kernel itself |
| 06:58.22 | JeffM2501 | probably something that didn't get updated right |
| 06:58.28 | lasindi | Yeah probably. |
| 06:58.39 | lasindi | It's weird that IRC makes it happen. |
| 06:59.03 | JeffM2501 | it's probably just focus |
| 07:00.19 | lasindi | JeffM2501: What do you suggest then? |
| 07:01.02 | JeffM2501 | dono |
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| 07:03.09 | BZ524 | # getcallsign |
| 07:03.10 | LithiumBot | BZ524, CapitanPower_6964 |
| 07:03.11 | CapitanPower_696 | # client add |
| 07:04.34 | *** join/#bzflag BZ331 (~BZ331@adsl-68-126-250-156.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 07:04.35 | BZ331 | # getcallsign |
| 07:04.36 | LithiumBot | BZ331, Bob_5705 |
| 07:04.37 | Bob_5705 | # client add |
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| 07:10.16 | uso | is there any problem with viper.pimpi.org today? |
| 07:10.32 | uso | every time i try to connect bzflag hangs today |
| 07:10.42 | _Manu_ | no.. no problem |
| 07:11.01 | uso | hmm, it used to work |
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| 07:12.16 | uso | it goes until it has load 100% of the map, then it hangs |
| 07:12.21 | uso | kill -9 only |
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| 07:14.40 | BZ425 | # getcallsign |
| 07:14.42 | LithiumBot | BZ425, Bob_3283 |
| 07:14.43 | Bob_3283 | # client add |
| 07:15.02 | uso | reproducable |
| 07:15.19 | uso | other servers work |
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| 07:16.22 | BZ772 | # getcallsign |
| 07:16.23 | LithiumBot | BZ772, LazyPlayer_9961 |
| 07:16.24 | LazyPlayer_9961 | # client add |
| 07:17.50 | *** join/#bzflag BZ453 (~BZ453@adsl-68-126-250-156.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 07:17.50 | BZ453 | # getcallsign |
| 07:17.51 | LithiumBot | BZ453, Stiny_2995 |
| 07:17.52 | Stiny_2995 | # client add |
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| 07:23.20 | BZ820 | # getcallsign |
| 07:23.22 | LithiumBot | BZ820, Noob_4827 |
| 07:23.22 | Noob_4827 | # client add |
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| 07:23.59 | BZ217 | # getcallsign |
| 07:24.00 | LithiumBot | BZ217, CapitanPower_2394 |
| 07:24.01 | CapitanPower_239 | # client add |
| 07:25.56 | wegstar | ? |
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| 07:29.03 | BZ697 | # getcallsign |
| 07:29.03 | LithiumBot | BZ697, LazyPlayer_3902 |
| 07:29.05 | LazyPlayer_3902 | # client add |
| 07:29.42 | JeffM2501 | just testing the client |
| 07:38.29 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (5 files in 4 dirs): |
| 07:38.30 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: give chat a log class to push it to the client menu. |
| 07:38.30 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: draw a basic scene in menu and pipe thru IRC chat. |
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| 08:49.15 | Mirella | hello |
| 09:09.48 | wegstar | night all |
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| 09:42.21 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/net/AresHandler.cxx: Dont't log a normal "DESTRUCT" error when player leave |
| 09:44.59 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/c-ares/configure: do not use CURLDEBUG for c-ares |
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| 13:44.55 | brlcad | mornin' grumby |
| 13:45.24 | Grumbler | morning |
| 13:46.22 | _Manu_ | brlcad, wake up! ;) |
| 13:46.45 | brlcad | but but .. |
| 13:46.58 | brlcad | i'm still sleeping |
| 13:47.26 | _Manu_ | yes, i knew you was writing in dreams :) |
| 13:47.44 | Grumbler | funny, this is the most conversation that has come out of brlcad in the morning for some time |
| 13:48.21 | Grumbler | you should be asleep more often, you might get more done |
| 13:50.15 | brlcad | sleep is for ze sheep! |
| 13:52.34 | uidzero | ze sheep? |
| 13:52.53 | uidzero | I thought sleep was for de people to count ze sheep? :P |
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| 15:10.17 | Grumbler | aaahh, /silence |
| 15:10.49 | RedBaron2 | ? |
| 15:16.44 | Grumbler | it was a question i was forming for those clients not wishing to communicate or listen to anyone, which is /silence, what i dont know at this point is if that /silence is intrepreted by the server and chat messages are dropped to that client or if it is on the client side and the client drops the chat messages |
| 15:18.19 | Grumbler | yeah, i think so to |
| 15:19.01 | [dmp] | pre 2.0 it was stored in the configuration file. and afaik it works on all servers |
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| 15:36.02 | TheRedBaron | grumbler, silence is golden. no? |
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| 16:11.24 | Grumbler | bryjen, welcome back |
| 16:17.56 | jpa_ | hi Grumbler |
| 16:18.07 | Grumbler | evening jpa_ |
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| 16:43.05 | bryjen | good morning, all |
| 16:43.10 | Noodle-sensei | moo |
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| 16:43.55 | TheRedBaron | oink |
| 16:44.30 | jpa_ | TheRedBaron: is that what pigs say? |
| 16:45.04 | TheRedBaron | jpa_ last pig i saw said that. |
| 16:45.11 | RedBaron2 | really? |
| 16:45.27 | RedBaron2 | last one i saw said.."cockadoodledoo".. |
| 16:45.48 | jpa_ | ones i saw said "röh" |
| 16:45.58 | jpa_ | while they could have said nöf too |
| 16:46.05 | bryjen | "pass the gravy" |
| 16:46.31 | jpa_ | oh, old information |
| 16:46.42 | jpa_ | i just said a pig that said "pass the gravy" |
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| 16:46.58 | jpa_ | including quotes |
| 16:47.00 | TheRedBaron | jpa_, you said a pig, or saw a pig? |
| 16:47.09 | jpa_ | maybe saw :) |
| 16:47.24 | TheRedBaron | ok, you had me confused there... |
| 16:47.33 | jpa_ | good |
| 16:47.37 | TheRedBaron | bad |
| 16:47.41 | jpa_ | it is a revenge |
| 16:48.08 | jpa_ | making me confused with that twin brother of you was a really evil thing to do |
| 16:48.29 | TheRedBaron | twin? who said anything about a twin? |
| 16:48.36 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 16:48.43 | TheRedBaron | confused again? |
| 16:48.44 | jpa_ | he seems pretty identical |
| 16:48.49 | TheRedBaron | :)) |
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| 16:49.03 | jpa_ | eight identical letters |
| 16:49.03 | RedBaron2 | me twin to that weirdo? |
| 16:49.06 | jpa_ | hi braddie <3 |
| 16:49.12 | jpa_ | RedBaron2: yes |
| 16:49.25 | jpa_ | RedBaron2: but two are easy to distinguish |
| 16:49.31 | brad2901 | hey jpa |
| 16:49.42 | TheRedBaron | jpa_, i don't look anything like this http://gu.bzleague.com/index.php?link=playerinfo&id=26& |
| 16:49.44 | jpa_ | RedBaron2: one looks like an idiot, and the other one is an idiot too |
| 16:49.53 | RedBaron2 | i'm just his bro, scary being an identical twin.. |
| 16:50.29 | RedBaron2 | not to mention i was adopted to begin with.. |
| 16:50.44 | TheRedBaron | nice try bro... |
| 16:52.03 | RedBaron2 | erm, thats not really a pic of me.. |
| 16:56.39 | Grumbler | aww...come on its cute |
| 16:56.56 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 16:57.08 | Grumbler | but you should really consider getting rid of that ugly kid on your back |
| 16:57.18 | brlcad_ | hehe |
| 16:57.23 | RedBaron2 | rofl |
| 16:57.38 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o brlcad] by ChanServ |
| 16:57.51 | RedBaron2 | it was actually a joke meno played on me.. |
| 16:58.31 | Grumbler | well you should allow meno to ride your back |
| 16:58.51 | Grumbler | err, shouldnt |
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| 16:59.52 | RedBaron2 | hey jeff |
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| 17:16.48 | jpa_ | llalallalalallalalallalalalalal |
| 17:18.06 | JeffM2501 | hello |
| 17:18.11 | jpa_ | jeff <3 |
| 17:18.18 | jpa_ | ~jeffM2501++ |
| 17:18.46 | RedBaron2 | ~karma JeffM2501 |
| 17:18.46 | ibot | jeffm2501 has karma of 33 |
| 17:20.51 | JeffM2501 | I suck |
| 17:23.47 | jpa_ | no you dont |
| 17:23.54 | jpa_ | or.. yes, you do |
| 17:24.04 | jpa_ | but we like you just as you are |
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| 17:24.05 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o purple_cow] by ChanServ |
| 17:24.18 | RedBaron2 | ~karma redbaron2 |
| 17:24.19 | ibot | redbaron2 has karma of -1 |
| 17:24.24 | RedBaron2 | i suck worse :D |
| 17:25.23 | JeffM2501 | it used to be over 200 in a past life |
| 17:25.39 | blast007 | ~karma patlabor221 |
| 17:25.39 | ibot | patlabor221 has karma of 238 |
| 17:26.10 | RedBaron2 | lol, mine used to be -5.. |
| 17:26.19 | JeffM2501 | then your geting better |
| 17:26.29 | JeffM2501 | ~redbaron2++ |
| 17:26.44 | JeffM2501 | now you at least even |
| 17:26.49 | RedBaron2 | yay |
| 17:26.54 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 17:27.19 | RedBaron2 | i'm still looking for that redhead.. ;) |
| 17:27.24 | JeffM2501 | allways |
| 17:27.37 | menotume | ~redbaron2++ for being so 'cute' in his picture |
| 17:27.52 | RedBaron2 | lol meno.. |
| 17:28.03 | menotume | :D |
| 17:28.15 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: no you don't :P |
| 17:28.51 | jpa_ | menotume: that pic is cute, yes :) |
| 17:29.10 | RedBaron2 | thats not really me.. |
| 17:29.24 | menotume | that's why it's 'cute' |
| 17:29.26 | RedBaron2 | i got a feeling its really meno, a loooong loong time ago.. |
| 17:29.29 | jpa_ | it reads so there.. |
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| 17:29.35 | mirella | hello |
| 17:29.38 | jpa_ | hi |
| 17:29.45 | RedBaron2 | hey mirella |
| 17:29.46 | menotume | nope, couldn't be - we didn't have color back then :P |
| 17:29.55 | RedBaron2 | oh, right.. |
| 17:33.31 | RedBaron2 | so who'd you get to pose as me? |
| 17:34.08 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, I don't what? |
| 17:34.12 | menotume | heh - whoever they ad in the ad for their RB toy |
| 17:34.17 | JeffM2501 | ohh |
| 17:34.19 | JeffM2501 | yes I do |
| 17:35.15 | jpa_ | JeffM2501 <3 |
| 17:36.18 | menotume | Just to set the record straight.... That IS RB2 in that picture. I've been told that he learned to drive a tank before he learned to walk ... explains a lot. |
| 17:36.24 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow just belives that I am evil |
| 17:36.31 | JeffM2501 | and he'd be right |
| 17:36.38 | RedBaron2 | lol |
| 17:37.45 | RedBaron2 | lol, you need to check your sources gramps :) |
| 17:37.48 | jpa_ | so, have you learned to walk already? |
| 17:37.55 | RedBaron2 | not yet ;) |
| 17:39.00 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, did you see that someone updated your bzedit? |
| 17:39.15 | RedBaron2 | i can crawl.. |
| 17:42.33 | JeffM2501 | they even gave it it's own domain name |
| 17:43.32 | orchid | JeffM2501: where? |
| 17:43.52 | JeffM2501 | http://www.bzfed.org/index.php?module=pagemaster&PAGE_user_op=view_page&PAGE_id=5 |
| 17:44.01 | JeffM2501 | from this post |
| 17:44.02 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3205 |
| 17:45.57 | JeffM2501 | she is |
| 17:46.01 | JeffM2501 | I've seen pictures |
| 17:46.21 | jpa_ | they do not proof anything.. |
| 17:46.38 | JeffM2501 | nothing proves anything anywhere |
| 17:47.25 | JeffM2501 | all things in the universe are probablility |
| 17:47.59 | jpa_ | i just can't understand that a chick can code better than me :( |
| 17:48.05 | RedBaron2 | lol |
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| 17:48.07 | bendy24 | puwhahaha |
| 17:48.07 | Grumbler | unless you are a chick |
| 17:48.08 | JeffM2501 | there are many |
| 17:48.27 | JeffM2501 | and a great number of dumb men |
| 17:48.39 | bendy24 | are you trolling? |
| 17:48.43 | bendy24 | :) |
| 17:48.53 | orchid | jpa_: appaers to be |
| 17:48.55 | Grumbler | bendy24< jpa_ troll?....nah, cant be |
| 17:49.10 | bendy24 | Grumbler: i meant JeffM2501 |
| 17:49.12 | jpa_ | orchid: i feel sorry for you.. |
| 17:49.22 | JeffM2501 | she's drop dead sexy too |
| 17:49.35 | Grumbler | bendy24< ok, now he is trolling |
| 17:49.42 | orchid | jpa_: what? |
| 17:49.55 | ruskie | JeffM2501, got proof? |
| 17:50.05 | bendy24 | pics... |
| 17:50.33 | bendy24 | nekkid ones prefered |
| 17:50.33 | JeffM2501 | can't tell |
| 17:50.33 | JeffM2501 | now your all just being pervs |
| 17:50.33 | bendy24 | no, just me |
| 17:50.33 | ruskie | <-- wants to see normal pics... |
| 17:50.33 | JeffM2501 | way to prove the steriotype :) |
| 17:50.33 | jpa_ | orchid: being born as a female coder.. normal people will think that you are a freak, and coders do not believe you can code |
| 17:50.48 | RedBaron2 | in that case, normal people are quite so normal.. |
| 17:51.00 | DTRemenak | She can definately code |
| 17:51.10 | jpa_ | JeffM2501: that means that you are not a coder |
| 17:51.15 | bendy24 | she can code me anytime |
| 17:51.16 | Grumbler | its DTRemenak that cant code. :) |
| 17:51.22 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 17:51.25 | DTRemenak | Grumbler: heh, how true |
| 17:51.25 | ruskie | :)) |
| 17:51.26 | JeffM2501 | the card says I can code |
| 17:51.31 | ruskie | lol |
| 17:51.35 | JeffM2501 | guu devcommits jeffm2501 |
| 17:51.37 | guu | JeffM2501: give chat a log class to push it to the client menu. draw a basic scene in menu... || file open,save,new, hooks || Edit meny, cut, copy, paste, undo hooks || Edit meny, cut, copy, paste, undo hooks || don't bother doing a search for empty strings ( may prevent a crash ). || set up client IRC connects and callsign setup || GL window scaling View rotation and zoom some basic axes (2 more messages) |
| 17:51.46 | JeffM2501 | hmm and guu says I can code |
| 17:51.54 | JeffM2501 | and ya know that game you play |
| 17:51.56 | JeffM2501 | with the tanks? |
| 17:52.02 | ruskie | :)) |
| 17:52.03 | JeffM2501 | that "BZFLAG" one |
| 17:52.05 | jpa_ | hmm.. |
| 17:52.09 | jpa_ | i do not play that |
| 17:52.10 | bryjen | guu will say anything you want her to |
| 17:52.11 | guu | bryjen: Don't worry, I'm sure you'll figure it out someday. |
| 17:52.12 | jpa_ | i use bzadmin |
| 17:52.15 | JeffM2501 | look at the authors file :) |
| 17:52.26 | jpa_ | bzadmin runs much smoother with tnt2 than bzflag |
| 17:52.27 | JeffM2501 | guu devcommits brygen |
| 17:52.31 | JeffM2501 | guu devcommits bryjen |
| 17:52.32 | Grumbler | uhoh, who wound up JeffM2501 , ya know we cant talk him down for at least 3 hours after one of these |
| 17:52.35 | guu | JeffM2501: alpha sort permission list || update poll options || use NetHandler's own getHostname(). Let it handle HAVE_ADNS. || only return hostname if lookup has succeeded || user@host || adapt the bools that keep hostbans from being rechecked every loop to delay... || acknowledge adding hostbans || Closing bug 1109453. || make AdnsHandler::checkDNSResolution return void since it's (2 more messages) |
| 17:52.37 | SportChick | orchid rocks |
| 17:53.02 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, it's cus your not old and grumpy yet :) |
| 17:53.07 | jpa_ | sorry Grumbler |
| 17:53.10 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 17:53.30 | bendy24 | SportChick: get your t-shirt yet? |
| 17:53.31 | Grumbler | dang kids today...... |
| 17:53.32 | jpa_ | why? |
| 17:53.40 | JeffM2501 | don't want to keep testing on freenode |
| 17:53.40 | SportChick | bendy24: t-shirt? |
| 17:53.46 | JeffM2501 | 1) it's not fair to them |
| 17:53.53 | jpa_ | testing what? |
| 17:53.56 | JeffM2501 | 2) the proxy scan is hella slow when I'm at work |
| 17:53.56 | bendy24 | SportChick: from timpson |
| 17:54.03 | JeffM2501 | jpa_, the new hotness |
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| 17:54.12 | SportChick | bendy24: we are in No cal this week - dunno. It could be waiting for us |
| 17:54.20 | jpa_ | JeffM2501: tell more |
| 17:54.21 | bendy24 | :D |
| 17:54.32 | JeffM2501 | now that client and server connect to IRC, and client shows IRC trafic I need someting that is fast and won't bug people. |
| 17:54.34 | Grumbler | SportChick< jitter? |
| 17:54.49 | SportChick | Grumbler: MUST you depress me at 9:54 am |
| 17:55.03 | jpa_ | umm.. bzflag clients are you talking about? |
| 17:55.06 | DTRemenak | ~lart Grumbler |
| 17:55.11 | bendy24 | umm... its 12:54... |
| 17:55.12 | Grumbler | SportChick< just asking.....you look beautiful this morning ;) |
| 17:55.14 | bendy24 | sheesh |
| 17:55.14 | JeffM2501 | jpa_, of a sorts |
| 17:55.16 | jpa_ | did you implement irc in bzflag? :( |
| 17:55.22 | JeffM2501 | no I did not |
| 17:55.22 | RedBaron2 | lol grumbler |
| 17:55.27 | jpa_ | good :) |
| 17:55.30 | JeffM2501 | I implmented bzflag in IRC |
| 17:55.37 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 17:55.40 | SportChick | Grumbler: hehe, now you're lying to cover your oops |
| 17:55.42 | orange | JeffM2501: I have a private irc server, but it requires a password to connect |
| 17:55.55 | jpa_ | i was to implement ircd that would connect to bzflag servers |
| 17:55.55 | JeffM2501 | I was just thinking of runing IRCD somewhere |
| 17:55.56 | Silver1 | orange, I'm trying to set one up for work right now... |
| 17:56.03 | Grumbler | SportChick< yes, but if it made you feel better, then it was worth it........... |
| 17:56.03 | SportChick | bendy24: it all depends on your perspective |
| 17:56.11 | jpa_ | like /join #bzflag.norang.ca:5154 |
| 17:56.18 | orange | JeffM2501: it's trivial... and probably easier for you |
| 17:56.22 | SportChick | Grumbler: I've been thinking of adopting your name and making it mine lately |
| 17:56.25 | orange | (easier than using mine) |
| 17:56.27 | Silver1 | anyone familiar with setting up hybserv? |
| 17:56.28 | JeffM2501 | jpa_, I have both clients and servers on IRC |
| 17:56.36 | JeffM2501 | an IRC bot acts as list server. |
| 17:56.38 | Grumbler | SportChick< that can be arranged |
| 17:56.49 | orange | Silver1: I've found it very useful to have |
| 17:56.52 | jpa_ | now that is strange :) |
| 17:57.14 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 17:57.19 | JeffM2501 | are those like smurfs? |
| 17:57.26 | JeffM2501 | but kind ticked off? |
| 17:57.27 | Silver1 | it runs, but doesn't seem to connect to my ircd. |
| 17:58.14 | RedBaron2 | ok i'm out folks, later all |
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| 18:00.34 | Grumblerette | Bagheera: you can go back to 'grumbler" if you want |
| 18:02.28 | Grumbler | Grumblerette< may oscar the grouch be with you |
| 18:02.48 | Grumblerette | Grumbler: hehe - I'd rather oscar take my jitter and disappear |
| 18:08.19 | jpa_ | someone is making me confused... |
| 18:09.01 | bryjen | its not so hard to do |
| 18:09.28 | jpa_ | :( |
| 18:09.44 | Grumblerette | bryjen: be nice to jpa |
| 18:13.23 | bendy24 | :O |
| 18:13.28 | bryjen | ? |
| 18:14.30 | JeffM2501 | I'm just wondering how much is the stat and how much is real lag variation |
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| 18:15.03 | bryjen | SC's problem is visible in the motion of her tank |
| 18:15.11 | SportChick | JeffM2501: I never noticed the stat until people were complaining about the motion |
| 18:15.15 | crko | hm guys |
| 18:15.17 | crko | a silly question |
| 18:15.19 | crko | how do i make bzflag windowed? |
| 18:15.21 | crko | i dunno witch F key it is |
| 18:15.23 | bryjen | zipping from spot to spol |
| 18:15.23 | crko | anyone any idea? |
| 18:16.05 | orange | f1 |
| 18:16.05 | bryjen | F1. donno if that works on Windows |
| 18:16.05 | crko | hm ok thanks |
| 18:16.29 | DTRemenak | probably does not work on windows. at least I did not write the code to make it work ;) |
| 18:16.38 | crko | lol |
| 18:16.38 | crko | ok |
| 18:16.39 | crko | :P |
| 18:16.41 | crko | ah |
| 18:16.51 | crko | some friend of mine has bzflag windowed |
| 18:16.55 | DTRemenak | not while awake and sober anyway :P |
| 18:17.03 | crko | and she doesn't know how to make it fullscreen |
| 18:17.34 | crko | any idea DTRemenak? |
| 18:17.40 | JeffM2501 | it on windows? |
| 18:17.45 | JeffM2501 | or linux? |
| 18:17.49 | crko | windows |
| 18:17.50 | DTRemenak | run it from the fullscreen icon, if it's in windows |
| 18:17.54 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:18.01 | DTRemenak | there are two icons in the start menu for it |
| 18:18.03 | JeffM2501 | there are 2 items in the start menu |
| 18:18.04 | JeffM2501 | one for each |
| 18:18.11 | crko | yes |
| 18:18.13 | DTRemenak | because JeffM2501 is brilliant |
| 18:18.15 | crko | oh i'll tel her |
| 18:18.16 | crko | :P |
| 18:18.18 | crko | tell* |
| 18:18.28 | crko | lol |
| 18:18.39 | blast007 | and make sure that the 'geometry' variable isn't set in the config file |
| 18:19.21 | JeffM2501 | there is nastyness in there |
| 18:19.29 | JeffM2501 | and don't ask about the monkey in the bucket |
| 18:19.34 | DTRemenak | I stepped on something icky on the way out |
| 18:19.39 | DTRemenak | hope it wasn't valuable |
| 18:19.48 | JeffM2501 | I'm more worried about your fott |
| 18:19.50 | JeffM2501 | foot |
| 18:20.03 | JeffM2501 | you have steel wool and matches right? |
| 18:20.05 | DTRemenak | seems to be ok, thus far :) |
| 18:20.22 | JeffM2501 | what kind of nuts? |
| 18:20.27 | bryjen | going? |
| 18:20.29 | JeffM2501 | cashews rock! |
| 18:21.12 | DTRemenak | I don't like rocks in my cashews, JeffM2501 |
| 18:21.15 | JeffM2501 | part of my brain could be melting, I'm being made to write mfc today |
| 18:21.20 | DTRemenak | eep! |
| 18:21.28 | JeffM2501 | in a DLL |
| 18:21.35 | DTRemenak | eeeeewww |
| 18:21.47 | JeffM2501 | its a plugin |
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| 18:22.06 | DTRemenak | whee |
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| 18:22.25 | Tupone | JeffM2501: did you happen to had a look at MrAC changes? |
| 18:22.25 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 18:22.25 | JeffM2501 | hadn't been following them |
| 18:22.33 | JeffM2501 | he and brlcad seemed to have a handle on it |
| 18:22.33 | DTRemenak | Tupone: you mean the nauseating camera roll? |
| 18:22.33 | DTRemenak | or something else? |
| 18:22.33 | Tupone | yeah |
| 18:22.39 | JeffM2501 | he was changing stuff with textures last night |
| 18:22.42 | JeffM2501 | haven't looked at cam stuff |
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| 18:23.03 | JeffM2501 | I got my client to show IRC text tho :) |
| 18:23.08 | Tupone | He change the forward vector |
| 18:23.16 | JeffM2501 | does it look good? |
| 18:23.23 | JeffM2501 | and does it have an option to go back to the old way |
| 18:23.26 | Tupone | I thing is where tank is aiming |
| 18:23.30 | JeffM2501 | those are the 2 complaints I thinkj |
| 18:23.33 | DTRemenak | Tupone: I'm thinking about just adding a menu item to disable it. It can be improved anyway, but someone will always want the old way |
| 18:23.34 | JeffM2501 | oh it goes forward? |
| 18:23.38 | JeffM2501 | I'd go backwards |
| 18:23.44 | JeffM2501 | so you can see your tanky chunks |
| 18:23.56 | DTRemenak | it coes in some wierd circly pattern that makes you want to puke :) |
| 18:24.02 | DTRemenak | goes even |
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| 18:24.12 | JeffM2501 | I'd just do a parabola backwards |
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| 18:24.23 | JeffM2501 | always keeping the cam level |
| 18:24.24 | Tupone | nobody will like the way it is :( |
| 18:24.34 | DTRemenak | yes, the way it is is very bad |
| 18:24.43 | JeffM2501 | make it a plugin! |
| 18:25.38 | Tupone | Mainly I don't understand what he wanna do :/ |
| 18:25.49 | JeffM2501 | I think just make it more intersting |
| 18:27.36 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: a slanted parabola behind/around the tank, with the camera level, would probably look cool |
| 18:27.44 | JeffM2501 | yeah I think so |
| 18:27.51 | JeffM2501 | that way you see your parts |
| 18:27.55 | JeffM2501 | and maybe who killed you |
| 18:27.56 | DTRemenak | it's the turning _over_ the tank that makes me sick :) |
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| 18:28.21 | JeffM2501 | if there would be any tilt I'd keep the camera pointing at where you died |
| 18:28.23 | JeffM2501 | but nothing more |
| 18:28.25 | Tupone | The only effect I saw is that the piece seems to go around more uniformly, looking from outside |
| 18:28.38 | JeffM2501 | but then I'd also like to see a model for a burnt out tank husk there :) |
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| 18:28.45 | JeffM2501 | untill you repop |
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| 18:29.05 | Grumbler | no burnt out tank husks....thats so 2003 |
| 18:29.07 | DTRemenak | mm, Tupone has a point. I think the camera is not separate there, so your parts and the camera are the same thing |
| 18:29.21 | DTRemenak | should probably split the camera from the parts |
| 18:29.26 | JeffM2501 | so the camera is sploding like the parts? |
| 18:29.26 | orchid | DTRemenak: yes, and that dizzying |
| 18:29.35 | JeffM2501 | that's not good |
| 18:29.45 | JeffM2501 | the splode code is wacky |
| 18:29.50 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 18:29.50 | orchid | I thought it was my new video card doing that :) |
| 18:29.58 | DTRemenak | orchid: no, no it's not :) |
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| 18:31.19 | menotume | hellos bongo |
| 18:31.48 | orchid | how do I force cvs to overwrite anything ive changed? give me a totally fresh checkout? |
| 18:32.17 | |zongo| | heyas zeno :P |
| 18:32.41 | DTRemenak | orchid: update -C |
| 18:32.50 | orchid | ty |
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| 18:37.48 | JeffM2501 | http://myth.gibbscam.com/temp/boom.png |
| 18:37.53 | JeffM2501 | that's what I'd think would look good. |
| 18:38.33 | bendy24 | SportChick: where are the peepz admin pics ladyk was telling me about? |
| 18:39.56 | SportChick | bendy - you have to have a password to see them, sorry |
| 18:40.22 | bendy24 | ahh, nm then |
| 18:40.27 | Grumbler | JeffM2501< err, hum, is it suppose to be a graph of a jump? |
| 18:40.44 | JeffM2501 | of where the camera would go on a splode |
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| 18:40.58 | bendy24 | SportChick: she said it was scary. :) |
| 18:41.35 | bendy24 | heh |
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| 18:44.43 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/Player.cxx: Make me fill sick. Sorry. |
| 18:45.10 | JeffM2501 | you just removed it? |
| 18:45.26 | Tupone | I left all the code, just remove the effect |
| 18:45.33 | Tupone | 1 line change |
| 18:45.50 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 18:45.55 | JeffM2501 | fair enough |
| 19:10.51 | JeffM2501 | yet another reason I want my own IRCd :) |
| 19:11.15 | jpa_ | <3<3<3<3<<3<3<3 |
| 19:18.46 | jpa_ | hmm.. |
| 19:18.52 | jpa_ | do i need to go to shower? |
| 19:18.57 | Grumbler | yes |
| 19:18.59 | jpa_ | i'm too tired to :/ |
| 19:19.14 | jpa_ | eww.. then i definitely have to |
| 19:19.21 | jpa_ | if even grumbler can smell it |
| 19:19.34 | Grumbler | yep |
| 19:20.13 | Grumbler | and this time use water AND soap |
| 19:20.24 | jpa_ | i always do |
| 19:20.43 | jpa_ | but i still do not like it.. it is too cold when i come out of the shower |
| 19:21.24 | Grumbler | move to spain |
| 19:21.49 | jpa_ | spain sucks |
| 19:21.56 | jpa_ | they don't even speak finnish in there! |
| 19:22.07 | ruskie | :)) |
| 19:22.24 | ruskie | <-- met a finn female saturday... quite charming... |
| 19:22.48 | jpa_ | of course she was |
| 19:22.56 | jpa_ | she was finnish, anyway |
| 19:23.12 | ruskie | :)) |
| 19:24.05 | Grumbler | finns are usually nice people........a little crazy on the cross-country skiing, but nice people |
| 19:24.26 | jpa_ | hmm.. |
| 19:24.38 | jpa_ | i haven't heard that we are crazy on that |
| 19:25.53 | Grumbler | maybe it was my roommates and their girlfriends at the time.........x-ski this, x-ski that.....heck they even had roller skis |
| 19:26.02 | jpa_ | x) |
| 19:26.23 | jpa_ | but, now to the shower -> |
| 19:26.31 | jpa_ | goodbye my wonderful nerd-aroma |
| 19:47.27 | jpa_ | brrr |
| 19:47.31 | jpa_ | that was cold :( |
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| 20:09.42 | jpa_ | hi trepan |
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| 22:38.18 | DTRemenak | I'm getting just under 5% utilization on a K6-200 with a server at 15 players |
| 22:41.02 | JeffM2501 | that seems prety good |
| 22:41.10 | ruskie | nice |
| 22:41.17 | blast007 | :) |
| 22:41.42 | DTRemenak | 'course I'm pulling 40Kbytes/sec, but hey :) |
| 22:42.36 | DTRemenak | oddly, that's also lower than the usually-cited 5Kbytes/player-second |
| 22:43.20 | JeffM2501 | it's the death cam |
| 22:43.25 | JeffM2501 | it kills packets |
| 22:43.35 | DTRemenak | haha |
| 22:44.20 | DTRemenak | now if only it would take less memory. 5mb per server process is a bit too much for that box. |
| 22:45.38 | JeffM2501 | it have 64? |
| 22:45.47 | DTRemenak | 96 |
| 22:45.51 | JeffM2501 | it's uber |
| 22:45.56 | DTRemenak | yup :) |
| 22:46.18 | DTRemenak | httpd takes about 30 mb and bzfs' take about 30 mb together |
| 22:46.41 | JeffM2501 | ouch |
| 22:46.49 | cosmos | its time for the hepcat 500 tank free for all ! |
| 22:46.51 | DTRemenak | wonder if I can cut the number of httpd threads |
| 22:47.28 | JeffM2501 | I may have some P3 600's |
| 22:48.08 | JeffM2501 | in a nice dual processor mobo |
| 22:48.18 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 22:48.47 | JeffM2501 | like that takes DIMMS |
| 22:48.52 | DTRemenak | I'm actually surprised at how well this poor 200 has been treating me. works very well considering what it is :) |
| 22:49.51 | DTRemenak | takes forever to compile bzfs though :) |
| 22:50.47 | cosmos | <deviant-> pfft, both irix and solaris stole most of their code and ideas from linux anyhow |
| 22:50.59 | ruskie | :)) |
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| 22:54.18 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, if the system works, you want it? |
| 22:54.38 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: I'm always up for faster hardware :) |
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| 22:57.19 | spldart | *Dreams of major trunk to internet plugged into back of dual liquid cooled amd bartons and a bzfs that is multithreaded hosting hundreds of tanks* |
| 22:57.57 | bryjen | argle |
| 22:58.08 | DTRemenak | where are you going to find the hundreds of tanks, that's the question :) |
| 22:58.22 | bryjen | you don't have to *asterisk* , just use /me |
| 22:58.23 | spldart | *it's a dream* |
| 22:58.25 | spldart | harumph |
| 22:58.44 | cosmos | spoogebob |
| 22:58.46 | bryjen | !lart DTRemenak |
| 22:59.09 | spldart | harumph |
| 22:59.21 | spldart | I didn't get a harumph out of that man |
| 22:59.23 | JeffM2501 | ha |
| 22:59.28 | JeffM2501 | where'd she get that one? |
| 23:00.23 | bryjen | asterisks make things all boldy here. not nice for long llines |
| 23:00.40 | DTRemenak | *BOLDY BOLDY LONG LONG LONG LINE* :P |
| 23:00.55 | bryjen | !lart DTRemenak again |
| 23:01.09 | JeffM2501 | looked fine to me |
| 23:01.33 | JeffM2501 | sweet |
| 23:01.44 | JeffM2501 | she needs huge shoulder pads |
| 23:02.01 | spldart | I hate car shopping :( |
| 23:02.02 | JeffM2501 | dude what do you need armor for with boob spaces? |
| 23:02.24 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 23:02.38 | JeffM2501 | maybe it makes you feel oh so prety. |
| 23:02.39 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 23:02.46 | DTRemenak | for the off chance that I get a g/f? |
| 23:02.56 | JeffM2501 | why would you need to armor her? |
| 23:03.06 | DTRemenak | so we could go kill stuff, naturally |
| 23:03.07 | JeffM2501 | what kind of dates do you have planed? |
| 23:03.20 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 23:03.22 | JeffM2501 | save vs. bad date |
| 23:03.39 | JeffM2501 | actualy it's save vs. restraining order. |
| 23:05.56 | JeffM2501 | wonder if you can have a multi CPU semperon |
| 23:06.43 | DTRemenak | http://us-distributed.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?p=6615& |
| 23:06.46 | DTRemenak | I'd say so |
| 23:08.11 | JeffM2501 | so they show as MPs? |
| 23:08.15 | JeffM2501 | or did he flash something? |
| 23:08.45 | JeffM2501 | ahh "So I think dual Sempron support is going to be motherboard dependent. " |
| 23:09.15 | JeffM2501 | dosn't sound officialy supported tho |
| 23:09.42 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 23:09.52 | bryjen | heh. probly not |
| 23:10.13 | JeffM2501 | I read somewhere somone had dual CPU ITX mobos |
| 23:12.40 | DTRemenak | yeah, via is selling some apparently |
| 23:12.44 | bryjen | http://www.mini-itx.com/default.asp |
| 23:12.51 | DTRemenak | it was on slashdot a while back |
| 23:13.05 | JeffM2501 | where is the CPU on that thing? |
| 23:13.16 | JeffM2501 | or is it some sorta freaky dualcore thing? |
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| 23:14.21 | JeffM2501 | hmm only a giger |
| 23:14.32 | JeffM2501 | bet I'd get more outa my current single semperon |
| 23:14.50 | bryjen | eww, S3 video |
| 23:15.31 | bryjen | hmm, did via buy up what was left of s3 ? |
| 23:15.57 | JeffM2501 | maybe |
| 23:16.01 | JeffM2501 | from "sonic blue" |
| 23:16.14 | JeffM2501 | they only make the rio mp3 players now I think |
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| 23:51.16 | spldart | Norwegian? |
| 23:59.07 | spldart | Are the guru's Jeff and DTR available to answer an odd question about bzflag serving real quick? |
| 23:59.55 | spldart | I would like to know if it is possible to set the number of tanks joining my server from the internet at once number but have more tanks inside my lan join in as well. |
| 23:59.57 | JeffM2501 | huuhhhwhat! |
