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| 00:20.02 | wegstar | "The next person to tease SportChick about her jitter will be kicked" -- did it get this bad?? |
| 00:20.32 | JeffM2501 | ibot karma jpa |
| 00:20.32 | ibot | jpa has karma of -2 |
| 00:20.43 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 00:24.33 | wegstar | does building bzflag with libcurl with SSL have any adverse effects other than just requiring a dll? |
| 00:24.44 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 00:24.49 | JeffM2501 | bzflag dosn't use SSL |
| 00:25.25 | wegstar | I know.. but I couldn't find non-ssl devel for mingw |
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| 00:25.46 | wegstar | err.. I guess it may have some effects... |
| 00:26.26 | wegstar | anyway, |
| 00:26.28 | wegstar | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:26.33 | wegstar | help |
| 00:32.38 | orchid | hi Aribeth |
| 00:32.51 | Aribeth | hi |
| 00:33.29 | Aribeth | orchid, how it the monitor? |
| 00:33.52 | orchid | still the same |
| 00:34.11 | Aribeth | same here |
| 00:34.22 | orchid | what video card do you have? |
| 00:34.38 | Aribeth | geforce 6600 GT |
| 00:34.52 | wegstar | anyone? |
| 00:35.43 | Tupone | wegstar? |
| 00:36.18 | wegstar | yes..? |
| 00:36.37 | Tupone | are you sure you have update cvs? |
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| 00:36.57 | Punkus | hi all |
| 00:37.03 | Tupone | It seems like AresHandler.cxx is not compiled |
| 00:37.03 | wegstar | yes.. |
| 00:37.07 | wegstar | oh |
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| 00:37.44 | Tupone | see if you a line naming it in Makefile.am |
| 00:38.01 | wegstar | ok |
| 00:38.08 | Tupone | what OS? Linux? |
| 00:38.19 | Punkus | anyone know how to make textures appear to "move" so I can use it with escalators? |
| 00:38.28 | wegstar | windows :P |
| 00:38.31 | Punkus | lol |
| 00:39.32 | Tupone | what kind of building system? |
| 00:39.36 | wegstar | makefile.am? not makefile.win? |
| 00:39.41 | wegstar | err... Mingw |
| 00:39.50 | wegstar | IDE used is Dev-C++ |
| 00:40.06 | orchid | Aribeth: I dunno, I'm messing around with the read-edid tools but no luck so far :-\ |
| 00:40.20 | Tupone | ok, so change to compile AresHandler.cxx too :/ |
| 00:40.34 | wegstar | ohh.... right |
| 00:40.35 | Tupone | is in src/net/ |
| 00:40.39 | wegstar | ~seen lan56 |
| 00:40.42 | ibot | lan56 <lan56@h-68-167-2-234.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 9d 21h 25m 5s ago, saying: 'brlcad: that's quite stunning'. |
| 00:40.47 | wegstar | grr... |
| 00:41.18 | Punkus | lol |
| 00:41.20 | Tupone | if you had Msys building I could help |
| 00:41.22 | Punkus | 9 days |
| 00:41.27 | Punkus | wow |
| 00:41.38 | wegstar | no wonder.. he didn't update it.. or... |
| 00:41.39 | Aribeth | orcid, i'll work on mine later tonight. |
| 00:41.58 | orchid | k |
| 00:42.05 | Punkus | anyone know where there is a tutorial on making textures "move" |
| 00:42.13 | Tupone | Prolly not, I introduced that 3/4 hours ago |
| 00:42.25 | Tupone | hey orcid |
| 00:42.36 | Tupone | Monitor? |
| 00:43.00 | orchid | ciao |
| 00:43.07 | Tupone | ciao orchid |
| 00:44.05 | Aribeth | Tupone, orchid and I got the same monitor. we can't get them above 1600x1200 |
| 00:44.26 | JeffM2501 | what res can you get them up too? |
| 00:44.36 | Aribeth | 1600x1200 |
| 00:44.41 | Aribeth | with X |
| 00:44.44 | JeffM2501 | hmm not even the wide ones? |
| 00:44.56 | JeffM2501 | did you tell X the limits of the display |
| 00:45.02 | Aribeth | yes |
| 00:45.05 | JeffM2501 | I know when seting up X it asks |
| 00:45.35 | Aribeth | X dosn't seem to like 1920x1200 |
| 00:45.42 | JeffM2501 | opps gogga go have dinner with me mum |
| 00:45.44 | JeffM2501 | hmm odd |
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| 00:45.55 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure somone would have set it up on on of those before |
| 00:46.18 | Tupone | wegstar: go in the directory Dev-c++ |
| 00:46.22 | osu | what does the X server log say? |
| 00:46.38 | Tupone | look at the file bzfs.dev |
| 00:46.39 | wegstar | Tupone..ugghh all c-ares souce files are not included in the project... |
| 00:46.47 | Aribeth | 1600x1200 |
| 00:46.51 | osu | maybe it needs a mode line for that resolution |
| 00:46.52 | Tupone | no problem for that |
| 00:46.55 | wegstar | err... added |
| 00:47.00 | wegstar | yeah |
| 00:47.07 | Tupone | they have a different building system |
| 00:47.23 | Tupone | you should go in src/c-ares and see hot to build |
| 00:47.37 | Aribeth | Modes "2048x1536" "1920x1200" "1900x1200" "1856x1392" "1792x1344" |
| 00:47.49 | Tupone | for the AresHandler, go in bzfs.dev and replace AdnsHandler with AresHandler |
| 00:48.01 | wegstar | oh |
| 00:49.34 | osu | Aribeth: XFree? it make a log usually /var/log/XFree86.0.log, look there for errors, "(EE)" iirc |
| 00:49.47 | osu | or (WW) |
| 00:50.31 | Tupone | wegstar: to build c-ares, not sure, but go in the src/c-ares/vc and import the .dsw |
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| 00:50.57 | wegstar | err... import to where? |
| 00:51.03 | Aribeth | osu, (WW) (1600x1200,Monitor1) mode clock 175.5MHz exceeds DDC maximum 170MHz |
| 00:51.07 | Tupone | project? |
| 00:51.26 | wegstar | umm ahh yes |
| 00:51.49 | Tupone | MeBigFatGuy can have better hints |
| 00:52.07 | osu | Aribeth: nothing for 1920x1200 or the other modes? |
| 00:52.10 | wegstar | I do see an areslib.dsp... |
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| 00:53.12 | Aribeth | osu, i see where it says the virtical and horizantal sync are out of range |
| 00:54.01 | osu | Aribeth: thats the problem, either these are really the limits of your monitor or X has wrong informations about your monitor |
| 00:54.20 | cosmos | 24.165.203.77 |
| 00:54.29 | Aribeth | the information is prolly wrong |
| 00:54.29 | cosmos | this chump is trying to connect with hundreds of bots |
| 00:54.41 | wegstar | Tupone: argh.. doesn't work. I'll just have to do it manually |
| 00:54.48 | Tupone | ok |
| 00:55.49 | osu | Aribeth: there are lines for the monitor freq ranges in XF86Config-4: HorizSync 30-121, VertRefresh 50-160 or so, check these |
| 00:56.19 | osu | and you may switch autodetection off if that is going wrong |
| 00:56.50 | osu | dont remember the setting for autodetection |
| 00:57.21 | Aribeth | will do. i have vertical 30-81 horiz 56-76 |
| 00:57.47 | osu | Aribeth: thats to less for more than 1600x1200 |
| 00:58.19 | Aribeth | ahh, that may be the problem then. |
| 00:59.16 | osu | you need the values for your monitor there |
| 01:01.23 | Aribeth | time to work on X |
| 01:01.48 | osu | gotta go home, good luck :) |
| 01:01.54 | osu | c ya |
| 01:01.55 | Aribeth | thanks |
| 01:02.31 | wegstar | err.. in windows_port.c "[Warning] unused variable 'tzflag' " |
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| 01:16.35 | spldart | Is DTR around? |
| 01:17.18 | wegstar | err... more errors : "153 src\c-ares\adig.c `getopt' undeclared (first use this function) " |
| 01:17.23 | wegstar | yes |
| 01:17.30 | spldart | When I tried the -i my.ip.num.ber in my .conf file as was recommended to me last night it took me off the server list. |
| 01:17.49 | spldart | I removed it now that I'm home tonight and I'm back online |
| 01:17.54 | wegstar | oh... |
| 01:17.58 | spldart | *confused* |
| 01:18.29 | spldart | Oh. and the car shopping went well... Finally. After 3 weeks *eek* |
| 01:20.26 | wegstar | and...: "178 src\c-ares\adig.c invalid conversion from `void*' to `in_addr*' " |
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| 01:47.49 | brlcad | wegstar: those are pretty simple errors to fix if getting a build it your goal :) |
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| 01:59.08 | Aribeth | ping orchid |
| 01:59.26 | orchid | hey Aribeth |
| 01:59.34 | Aribeth | i think i got it |
| 02:00.03 | Aribeth | the monitor says 1920x1200 |
| 02:00.23 | Aribeth | and X reports its using 1920x1200 |
| 02:00.46 | orchid | ooh, and it looks good? |
| 02:00.52 | Aribeth | yes |
| 02:00.59 | orchid | yay |
| 02:01.01 | Aribeth | the fonts are smaller as well |
| 02:01.10 | orchid | yes, thats what I'm hoping |
| 02:01.19 | orchid | these fonts are too big for me |
| 02:01.19 | Aribeth | i found a thread on google |
| 02:01.44 | Aribeth | how/where can i post my config file? |
| 02:02.06 | orchid | you can email me it if you like? |
| 02:02.11 | Aribeth | ok |
| 02:02.19 | orchid | bzgirl@gmail.com |
| 02:02.26 | Aribeth | which video card do you have? |
| 02:02.56 | orchid | ive got a geforce 5200 at the moment |
| 02:03.01 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 02:03.09 | Aribeth | i'll email it now |
| 02:04.08 | orchid | thanks |
| 02:04.17 | Aribeth | np |
| 02:04.39 | orchid | whats the google thread you found? |
| 02:06.00 | Aribeth | i'll put the link in the email |
| 02:06.15 | orchid | k cool |
| 02:06.22 | orchid | I'm glad you got it all fixed :) |
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| 02:08.21 | Aribeth | on its way now |
| 02:10.53 | JeffM2501 | you all got it to work? |
| 02:11.15 | Aribeth | yes i found the answer in a thread on google |
| 02:11.21 | JeffM2501 | huzzah |
| 02:11.24 | JeffM2501 | hows it look? |
| 02:11.28 | Aribeth | orchid is working on it now |
| 02:11.38 | Noodleman | BRAAAAAAAINSSS! |
| 02:11.49 | Aribeth | good. i need to adjust the fonts, but good |
| 02:11.54 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 02:12.06 | JeffM2501 | I"ve pondered replacing my 19 with something like that |
| 02:12.15 | JeffM2501 | specialy if it's dual input |
| 02:12.28 | Aribeth | i had to. my eyes are getting worse every year |
| 02:12.39 | JeffM2501 | the LCDs are very crisp |
| 02:12.59 | Aribeth | my eyes are prolly worse than 20:40 20:80 now |
| 02:13.20 | JeffM2501 | oh my |
| 02:13.31 | JeffM2501 | that is not a cheap display |
| 02:13.32 | JeffM2501 | wow |
| 02:13.35 | Aribeth | the left eye is the bad one |
| 02:13.45 | Aribeth | nope |
| 02:14.59 | uso | Aribeth: what was the problem? the hsync/vsync settings or something others? |
| 02:15.05 | Aribeth | it is a very brite monitor too |
| 02:15.48 | Aribeth | i had to use modeline. there is a thread at http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=563309&mode=threaded |
| 02:16.01 | Aribeth | that helped me figure it out |
| 02:16.08 | Thumper_ | JeffM2501: what is your dream viewsonic...? |
| 02:16.14 | uso | ah, a special mode line |
| 02:16.34 | uso | if it's good, what monitor is it? |
| 02:16.40 | Aribeth | yes and i had to comment out the subsection in the config |
| 02:16.50 | JeffM2501 | 3200x2560 |
| 02:17.08 | Aribeth | how big is the monitor? |
| 02:17.14 | JeffM2501 | was a 23 IIRC |
| 02:17.21 | Aribeth | WOW! |
| 02:17.28 | uso | JeffM2501: on an LCD?? |
| 02:17.31 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:17.32 | brlcad | Noodleman: ramen? |
| 02:17.42 | Thumper_ | sounds a bit expensive :) |
| 02:17.43 | JeffM2501 | was like 160dpi or something |
| 02:17.50 | JeffM2501 | it was 7k last time I checked |
| 02:17.58 | uso | wow, >$10k ? |
| 02:18.06 | uso | oops, cheep :)) |
| 02:18.09 | brlcad | that's a nice dpi |
| 02:18.14 | brlcad | for that price |
| 02:18.14 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:18.20 | JeffM2501 | dono if they still make it tho |
| 02:18.22 | Aribeth | very nice indeed |
| 02:19.11 | Thumper_ | yeah I could park one of those here... but my existing ViewSonic is good enough (1600x1200 20") |
| 02:20.04 | Aribeth | this Dell has a 12 ms refresh |
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| 02:20.41 | JeffM2501 | looks like it's not made anymore |
| 02:20.48 | Aribeth | :( |
| 02:21.22 | uso | Aribeth: ah, yours is also an LCD, how much was it? |
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| 02:21.33 | Aribeth | $1199.00 |
| 02:21.43 | uso | although i'm not a fan of this 16:9 or whatever displays |
| 02:21.55 | uso | not bad for this resolution |
| 02:22.00 | JeffM2501 | once you go wide, you never go back :) |
| 02:22.24 | cosmos | oh dear |
| 02:22.31 | JeffM2501 | my desktop is presently 3200x1200 |
| 02:22.40 | Aribeth | i had a used 17 inch compaq monitor and i was squinting to see |
| 02:22.42 | cosmos | that can be taken in a few different contexts |
| 02:22.44 | cosmos | heh |
| 02:22.51 | orchid | Aribeth: was on the phone, sry, got your mail just now |
| 02:22.53 | JeffM2501 | cosmos, but still true :) |
| 02:23.08 | cosmos | oh i dunno im not a fan of big girls :) |
| 02:23.13 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:23.13 | uso | not sure, we have a dell laptop with 16:9 at work |
| 02:23.14 | Aribeth | orchid, i hope it works |
| 02:23.30 | cosmos | best lcd ive owned was the sgi 1600SW |
| 02:23.30 | uso | JeffM2501: with 2 monitors? |
| 02:23.34 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:23.35 | cosmos | that thing ruled on my O2 |
| 02:23.43 | JeffM2501 | have to be dual head |
| 02:23.47 | uso | what graphics card? |
| 02:23.47 | JeffM2501 | even at home |
| 02:23.59 | JeffM2501 | I think I'm on a GF4 TI something here |
| 02:24.16 | JeffM2501 | everyting since the 2MX has supported it |
| 02:24.25 | JeffM2501 | so card isn't ever an issue |
| 02:24.40 | JeffM2501 | used to run 3 displays at home |
| 02:24.42 | JeffM2501 | then I got the mac |
| 02:24.53 | uso | it's running 1600x1200 on both heads, ok |
| 02:24.57 | spldart | My mini laptop is widescreen :meh: |
| 02:24.57 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:25.07 | Aribeth | i have the geforce 6600 gt card. works good |
| 02:25.18 | uso | 3 displays? with 2 cards? |
| 02:25.21 | JeffM2501 | OS thinks it's one big old display tho |
| 02:25.23 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 02:25.34 | JeffM2501 | a Fx5700 and a 4MX |
| 02:25.48 | Aribeth | nice |
| 02:26.14 | JeffM2501 | I think I sent that card to SC |
| 02:26.29 | JeffM2501 | and used the 3rd display for the 'toshes |
| 02:27.21 | uso | must be really good to fight |
| 02:27.35 | JeffM2501 | never ran it like that |
| 02:27.43 | JeffM2501 | side displays were a 19 and a 17 |
| 02:27.46 | JeffM2501 | uneven |
| 02:35.11 | cosmos | Rep William Lacy Clay of Missouri is calling on the congressional committee to seek federal indictments against former slugger Mark McGwire and is urging a life prison sentence. |
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| 02:40.09 | spldart | A life sentence for what?!?! The steroids? OMG |
| 02:40.34 | spldart | What the 'blank' does the congress have to do with baseball any 'blanking' way?!?! |
| 02:40.35 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/client/ (inc/client.h src/client.cpp): read in a prefs file |
| 02:41.13 | spldart | Oh... And why does anyone care about baseball after the players went on 'blanking' strike cuz they didn't make enough money? |
| 02:41.52 | MeBigFatGuy | congress is allowed to mess with them at will as they have given baseball exemption from anti-trust laws |
| 02:42.24 | MeBigFatGuy | congress should intervene because baseball is un-managed at present |
| 02:42.28 | spldart | Geeez. I guess major league baseball really signed away everything with that. |
| 02:42.47 | spldart | They should be treated exactly like any corporation |
| 02:42.48 | MeBigFatGuy | well, thats a big nut to get, after all. |
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| 02:45.33 | cosmos | yeah |
| 02:45.43 | cosmos | its another example of congress getting into "morals" |
| 02:45.51 | cosmos | they want to deport sammy sosa heh |
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| 02:47.25 | spldart | OMG |
| 02:47.30 | brlcad | OMG |
| 02:47.41 | cosmos | there also is talk at the hearings that any player who played from 1995-2004 would be ineligible for the baseball hall of fame |
| 02:47.41 | spldart | Sometimes I have to stand back and marvel at what the world has come to. |
| 02:48.18 | brlcad | Yeah, marvel comics are definitely the way to go |
| 02:48.26 | cosmos | just tune into TBN for a glimpse at the future :) |
| 02:48.33 | Aribeth | heh |
| 02:48.52 | spldart | I mean.. I hate what pro baseball has come too. But to have the congress waisting time on it Grrrrrr |
| 02:48.58 | Aribeth | i marvel every day at the lunacy at work |
| 02:49.08 | brlcad | ack.. no wonder.. i've been watching TBS.. *sigh* |
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| 02:49.38 | cosmos | yeah next up is congressional hearings into alleged "staged and phony matches" in professional wrestling |
| 02:49.47 | spldart | LMAO |
| 02:49.55 | spldart | That sounds about right |
| 02:49.58 | cosmos | we need to get to the bottom of this! |
| 02:50.15 | spldart | They get hulk hogan and junkyard dog on up to the rock up there. |
| 02:50.33 | cosmos | "You sir are no George the Animal Steele" |
| 02:50.35 | spldart | "I plead the fifth yo honah!" |
| 02:50.35 | brlcad | wow, isn't he lik 70 now? |
| 02:50.49 | spldart | LMAO |
| 02:51.04 | cosmos | yeah but the hulkster can tear his shirt off and stare down the senators |
| 02:51.21 | spldart | I'd pay good money to see the hulkster do that |
| 02:51.29 | spldart | Lets make him a Governer too!!! |
| 02:51.59 | bzflagwiz | Anyone remember "Bulldog Bob Brown" from Saturday Night Wrestling? |
| 02:52.08 | spldart | noperz |
| 02:52.16 | cosmos | some college age kids died using steroids in the minors. if it were 30 year old has beens you think we would have congressional hearings? sheesh |
| 02:52.23 | bzflagwiz | That was before WWF and such... |
| 02:52.28 | cosmos | heh |
| 02:52.32 | cosmos | or gorgeous george |
| 02:52.52 | bzflagwiz | Yep - him too |
| 02:53.02 | brlcad | or curious george |
| 02:53.38 | bzflagwiz | brlcad: People went ape over him |
| 02:54.02 | spldart | I read curious george and the dinasour go to the museum once..... /kindergarten |
| 02:54.19 | cosmos | but bulldog bob brown was a true canuck warrior! |
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| 02:55.51 | cosmos | http://www.cheesegod.com/archive/steriods.shtml |
| 03:00.05 | wiz | exit |
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| 03:05.08 | MeBigFatGuy | they got nothing else to waste their time on |
| 03:05.16 | cosmos | <bensons> I think it is good. They should also sentence one of the superstars like Bonds or McGuire to death for their direct part in killing kids. I am so happy George Bush is leading America back to a strong moral foundation |
| 03:10.17 | cosmos | Yes, but Ruth's heyday was the 20's, during Prohibition, and Ruth was a |
| 03:10.17 | cosmos | well-known drinker. It's only a matter of time (in this era of |
| 03:10.17 | cosmos | neo-Prohibition) before Ruth's hangover-ridden home runs get their own |
| 03:10.17 | cosmos | asterisk. Maybe Ruth HAD to hit all those home runs because he couldn't |
| 03:10.18 | cosmos | take standing on second base in the hot sun... |
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| 03:25.22 | spldart | how do I check lag time again in bz? |
| 03:25.30 | blast007 | /lagstats |
| 03:25.41 | spldart | thanks |
| 03:26.34 | spldart | ranges from 116 to 162 currently with one tank standing out with a 700. I'm a 26 |
| 03:33.23 | spldart | I guess that's about average for a cable modem |
| 03:43.57 | spldart | Well... I'm going to get drunk now.. Thanks for the help. My server will switch over to 2.0.2 this weekend sometime ;) |
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| 04:21.01 | Aribeth | SpotChick, hi |
| 04:21.48 | SportChick | Aribeth: hi |
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| 04:22.03 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 04:22.16 | Aribeth | how was Bezerkly? |
| 04:22.24 | SportChick | hehe |
| 04:22.47 | SportChick | it was fine - we saw a couple of movies, had some great asian food and now we're back in socal - even brought the rain with us |
| 04:22.50 | Aribeth | well, i did live in SF for many years |
| 04:23.04 | Aribeth | heh |
| 04:23.08 | SportChick | how did your day today go? |
| 04:23.11 | SportChick | (at work) |
| 04:23.18 | Aribeth | only fair |
| 04:23.23 | SportChick | ~seen TimRiker |
| 04:23.24 | ibot | timriker is currently on # #debian-bots #botpark #elinux #ol #bzflag. Has said a total of 31 messages. Is idling for 6h 41m 58s |
| 04:23.32 | SportChick | only fair? not had your appt yet? |
| 04:23.42 | Aribeth | he docked me 1.5 hours for yesterday when i went to eeoc |
| 04:23.48 | SportChick | good grief |
| 04:23.55 | SportChick | get your appt but quick |
| 04:24.01 | Aribeth | the retaliation has begun |
| 04:24.05 | Aribeth | yes |
| 04:24.07 | SportChick | yup |
| 04:24.09 | SportChick | document like crazy |
| 04:24.25 | Aribeth | i called and i need to fill out a screening form |
| 04:24.33 | Aribeth | then the appointment |
| 04:24.40 | Aribeth | i am |
| 04:24.52 | Aribeth | cool |
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| 05:11.00 | TimRiker | SportChick: sup? |
| 05:14.52 | orchid | ~dict ornery |
| 05:15.03 | orchid | :-\ |
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| 05:51.16 | sgk284 | TimRiker, once again thanks for helping me out with my problem yesterday |
| 05:51.37 | sgk284 | still dunno whats causing it to use bind all the sudden :/ just commented that stuff out |
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| 05:57.26 | KJx | Can the server disable the pointer to the antidote flag? |
| 05:57.42 | TimRiker | sgk284: which stuff? the check in conffigure? |
| 05:58.08 | TimRiker | KJx: it can enable or disable the flag, but not just the pointer iirc. |
| 05:59.17 | KJx | Thanks - I was playing red vs green but I cant locate the antidote pointer. I can see the own flag pointer. Have to look better - sigh |
| 06:02.23 | bzflagwiz | TimRiker: Yesterday you asked if my flyingTanks option set a bit in the server list. I am in fact setting a bit. It was in global.h and CmdLineOptions.cxx, not bzfs.cxx. |
| 06:02.48 | sgk284 | TimRiker, yes |
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| 06:03.01 | sgk284 | more or less anything with -lbind :) |
| 06:03.08 | sgk284 | kludgy, but it works :) |
| 06:06.50 | bzflagwiz | sgk284 - it would be interesting to find out "which" extra -lbind was being thrown in. Might help figure out why you are getting the error. |
| 06:07.04 | Thumper_ | What's this new admin message about? Kicking Player Tricky EndShot credit: 3 |
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| 06:07.41 | Thumper_ | obviously the player was kicked by the server... but what's an EndShot ? |
| 06:07.50 | sgk284 | might have something to do with the anti cheat code |
| 06:07.57 | sgk284 | a shot from the end of the tank? |
| 06:08.30 | sgk284 | yea its cheat stuff |
| 06:08.35 | bryjen | message sent when a shot should end, ie it has hit something |
| 06:08.42 | sgk284 | ChangeLog:* Added EndShot cheat detection - Julio Jimenez |
| 06:09.28 | bryjen | or, when used as a cheat, before it has hit something (the cheater), to prevent the hit |
| 06:09.49 | Thumper_ | ah ok |
| 06:10.51 | bryjen | there was also a guy who'd send shotend for any shots fired, effectively making it a no-shot server |
| 06:11.05 | bzflagwiz | Looks like you get two "free" early shot terminations (presumably due to chance), then you get kicked on the third early shot termination |
| 06:12.30 | bzflagwiz | If you think you received that message in error, then report the circumstances and the error message |
| 06:14.23 | bzflagwiz | Thumper_ - I just reread my last comment, didn't mean to make is sound like YOU got the message. Sorry. |
| 06:14.30 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 06:14.56 | Thumper_ | np - I just updated my server from cvs - last update was on the 14th (5 days ago) |
| 06:15.04 | Thumper_ | and I've been getting 10 of these msgs a day |
| 06:15.06 | Thumper_ | for players |
| 06:15.52 | Thumper_ | I'll check if it's still happening with 2.0.3 |
| 06:16.01 | Thumper_ | after it's been running for abit |
| 06:16.11 | Thumper_ | thx ... and good night all |
| 06:16.16 | sgk284 | g night |
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| 06:42.23 | Pimpinella | Thumper_: still around? |
| 06:43.35 | Pimpinella | oh, already answered |
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| 07:54.08 | KJx | I asked this question wrongly before - so I will try again. |
| 07:54.13 | KJx | In capture flag mode |
| 07:54.28 | KJx | the help says there should be a yellow marker for the opposite |
| 07:54.34 | KJx | team flag |
| 07:54.48 | KJx | I cant find it - can the server disable that marker? |
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| 07:55.43 | _Manu_ | a yellow marker? what do you mean |
| 07:55.55 | KJx | well if you are on the green team |
| 07:56.14 | _Manu_ | in CTF mode.. the teams flags are colourized |
| 07:56.17 | KJx | there will be a green marker on the HUD to indicate the direction to your team flag |
| 07:56.20 | _Manu_ | as the teams bases |
| 07:56.45 | _Manu_ | no, you can see the team flag in the radar |
| 07:56.46 | KJx | HELP says there should be a direction marker on the HUD for the opposite teams flag |
| 07:57.07 | KJx | Yes I know the team flags are colored |
| 07:57.25 | _Manu_ | in what doc? |
| 07:57.28 | KJx | but on the HUD there is an indicator tellig you where your teams flag is right now |
| 07:57.45 | KJx | Run BZFlag - choose help -page 5 or 6 |
| 07:58.22 | KJx | yes - I can see them on the radar too -but the HUD has an indicator for the flag direction |
| 07:58.34 | KJx | makes it faster to chase |
| 07:59.05 | _Manu_ | sry.. but i can't read that in the help |
| 07:59.12 | KJx | The "own flag" indicator will be right above the compass bar |
| 07:59.28 | KJx | hold on I will see if it copies... |
| 07:59.42 | _Manu_ | press F4 for a screenshot |
| 08:00.26 | KJx | It is under help-> ReadOut II - second paragraph |
| 08:00.39 | _Manu_ | but really you can see every flag in the dadar..perhaps that's outdated |
| 08:00.41 | KJx | he he - I cant send a screenshot here - can I? |
| 08:00.49 | _Manu_ | no |
| 08:01.19 | KJx | yes all flags are present on the radar - that is not where I am going |
| 08:01.58 | KJx | Situation: You are on green team and somebody off your screen captures your flag |
| 08:02.01 | _Manu_ | the yellow is for the antidote flags |
| 08:02.13 | KJx | you will never find that flag on the radar |
| 08:02.19 | _Manu_ | press S key and then can see who has the flag |
| 08:02.49 | _Manu_ | well.. for antidote flag.. you must pick up a bad flag.. and the server must be configured for antidote |
| 08:02.49 | KJx | right above the compass bar you will see an indicator |
| 08:03.00 | KJx | No no - not a bad flag - that is not it |
| 08:03.17 | KJx | This applies ONLY to the team flags |
| 08:03.35 | KJx | You will always see either |
| 08:03.51 | _Manu_ | the page you are talking about is titled FLAGS.. right? |
| 08:04.00 | KJx | an arrow to the left or right indicating that the team flag is way out that way |
| 08:04.17 | KJx | NO - it is titled Readout II |
| 08:05.03 | KJx | help + 7 PgDws |
| 08:05.21 | MeBigFatGuy | KJX the antidote flag shows on radar |
| 08:05.53 | KJx | It is a feature only usable in CTF mode |
| 08:06.23 | _Manu_ | well.. that info may be outdated.. hud changed time ago |
| 08:06.34 | KJx | BZflag 2.0 ? |
| 08:06.38 | MeBigFatGuy | team flag indicator is still in 2.0 |
| 08:06.39 | _Manu_ | no.. earlier |
| 08:07.02 | KJx | oh - s the info pages in ver 2.0 are outdated |
| 08:07.19 | KJx | the s is should have been a so |
| 08:07.24 | _Manu_ | he mean a mark for the team flag |
| 08:07.50 | KJx | The direction indicator for the team flag is there and works |
| 08:08.11 | MeBigFatGuy | it is there just above the big mouse movement box |
| 08:08.20 | KJx | It is the direction indicator for the opposite teams flag (the yellow one) |
| 08:08.32 | KJx | that I can't get to work - if it does work |
| 08:09.22 | _Manu_ | well.. help only tells about your team flag.. |
| 08:09.27 | _Manu_ | not enemies flags |
| 08:09.38 | MeBigFatGuy | right |
| 08:09.51 | MeBigFatGuy | in fact if you have more than 1 team flag, you will get multiple indicators |
| 08:10.02 | KJx | .... and it continues to tell that the oppite teams flag is indicated by a yellow direction marker |
| 08:10.06 | _Manu_ | and you was talking about your team flag earlier.. |
| 08:10.28 | KJx | he he - lets reboot |
| 08:10.38 | MeBigFatGuy | ok |
| 08:10.39 | KJx | I am not talking about the radar |
| 08:10.55 | KJx | As Manu correctly said |
| 08:11.01 | _Manu_ | wrong.. after your team flag.. it says the antitote flag.. |
| 08:11.14 | KJx | the team flag indicator is the color of your team |
| 08:11.32 | KJx | and located just above the compass bar ( that is just above the big mouse box) |
| 08:11.46 | _Manu_ | but believe me.. if you want to know where every flag is.. just look at the radar.. lol |
| 08:11.50 | KJx | It shows an arrow-left or arrow-right |
| 08:12.02 | KJx | No you are wrong |
| 08:12.12 | _Manu_ | watever |
| 08:12.17 | KJx | I do not want to know where every flag is |
| 08:12.22 | KJx | I have the radar for that |
| 08:12.42 | MeBigFatGuy | so your saying the antidote MARKER doesn't show? above targetting box? |
| 08:12.51 | KJx | when the team flag is grasped I want the direction to the flag ASAp |
| 08:13.12 | KJx | yes - it doesn't show |
| 08:13.35 | KJx | or I haven't found it :-) |
| 08:14.05 | _Manu_ | well. some markers only shows when near a flag |
| 08:14.07 | KJx | See - the antidote flag can be hard to spot on the radar |
| 08:14.20 | _Manu_ | hard to spot? |
| 08:14.23 | KJx | the team flag indicator always shows |
| 08:14.27 | _Manu_ | i can see evey flag in the radar.. |
| 08:14.47 | _Manu_ | teams and antidote flags.. colourized |
| 08:14.52 | KJx | the red team flag placed correctly is *very* hard to spot |
| 08:15.03 | _Manu_ | you can press 1, 2 or 3 key for radar zoom |
| 08:15.03 | KJx | yep |
| 08:15.15 | KJx | yes - assuming you are close |
| 08:15.15 | _Manu_ | you can configure your radar for it |
| 08:15.19 | KJx | I know |
| 08:15.32 | _Manu_ | well.. i never have problems for it.. |
| 08:15.40 | _Manu_ | perhaps is your monitor |
| 08:15.46 | MeBigFatGuy | is using antidote flags, a server option? |
| 08:15.47 | KJx | maybe I am just to lazy :-) |
| 08:15.49 | MeBigFatGuy | or always |
| 08:16.04 | brlcad | MeBigFatGuy: it's an option |
| 08:16.09 | _Manu_ | yes.. for antidote the sever must be configured |
| 08:16.10 | MeBigFatGuy | whats the switch? |
| 08:16.17 | MeBigFatGuy | can't find it in bzfs -help |
| 08:16.26 | _Manu_ | brlcad, good night! ;) |
| 08:16.37 | KJx | good night |
| 08:16.43 | _Manu_ | well the time for antidote flags.. |
| 08:17.08 | MeBigFatGuy | oh -sa |
| 08:17.10 | brlcad | MeBigFatGuy: -sa |
| 08:17.13 | KJx | hmm - looking in the bzflag server conf.... |
| 08:17.16 | brlcad | ahh, too slow |
| 08:18.05 | MeBigFatGuy | i get the anidote MARKER in my hud |
| 08:18.09 | _Manu_ | KJx, i never watch that markers.. because simply you'll be dead.. hehe |
| 08:18.31 | KJx | I have no problem watching multiple input |
| 08:18.34 | _Manu_ | yes... there is one.. and also a yellow flag in radar |
| 08:18.38 | MeBigFatGuy | yup |
| 08:18.55 | MeBigFatGuy | interestingly there are no opponent team flag markers |
| 08:18.59 | MeBigFatGuy | which i suppose makes sense |
| 08:19.14 | KJx | yellow flag in the radar - you are talking about antidote flags for bad flags - correct? |
| 08:19.48 | MeBigFatGuy | yup |
| 08:19.57 | MeBigFatGuy | as well as the MARKER in the HUD |
| 08:20.02 | KJx | well - that was not what I was after |
| 08:20.19 | KJx | maybe it doesn't exist :-( |
| 08:20.33 | MeBigFatGuy | what are you after then |
| 08:20.48 | _Manu_ | if you get problems for see the red flag in radar.. perpahs you also got problems for see it ;) |
| 08:21.42 | KJx | Bear with me for an explanation then: |
| 08:22.02 | KJx | If I am on the green team |
| 08:22.28 | KJx | then a green indicatio arrow or diamond will be shown |
| 08:22.35 | MeBigFatGuy | ya |
| 08:22.43 | KJx | just above the big mouse box on the screen |
| 08:22.48 | MeBigFatGuy | ya |
| 08:22.56 | KJx | The opposite tems flag |
| 08:23.01 | KJx | teams flag that is |
| 08:23.23 | KJx | should be indicated by a yellow indicator arrow or diamond |
| 08:23.25 | _Manu_ | the marker form for team flag changes.. |
| 08:23.36 | _Manu_ | from diamond to left/right arrow |
| 08:23.44 | KJx | at least that is what the help page says |
| 08:24.00 | MeBigFatGuy | KJX i think the theory is, you shouldn't have special knowledge about opponents flags |
| 08:24.02 | KJx | but I don't know if the server can deny the other indicator to be shown |
| 08:24.16 | _Manu_ | AFAIK no |
| 08:24.17 | MeBigFatGuy | the other team should be able to try and hide their flag |
| 08:24.42 | MeBigFatGuy | but the position of your team flag, is sent to you over the InterTankMemo |
| 08:25.50 | KJx | I dont disagree with your theory |
| 08:26.22 | KJx | that is why I am interested in if the server can turn this indicator off - or I am just the only one who can't see it |
| 08:27.04 | MeBigFatGuy | the server cannot keep your tank from seeing the antidote marker |
| 08:27.38 | MeBigFatGuy | nor your team flag Marker |
| 08:27.49 | MeBigFatGuy | unless you have colorblind flag perhaps |
| 08:29.21 | jpa_ | umm... there is no second indicator? |
| 08:29.32 | jpa_ | one can see only his own team flags indicator |
| 08:29.35 | MeBigFatGuy | there are two |
| 08:29.40 | jpa_ | are there? |
| 08:29.43 | MeBigFatGuy | team flag indicator and antidote indicator |
| 08:29.49 | jpa_ | oh |
| 08:30.08 | jpa_ | but antidote shows up just if there are antidote flags and if you have a bad flag? |
| 08:30.24 | MeBigFatGuy | yes |
| 08:30.34 | MeBigFatGuy | and you only see YOUR antidote flag |
| 08:33.14 | _Manu_ | KJx, you sarted asking: the help says there should be a yellow marker for the opposite team flag |
| 08:33.31 | _Manu_ | and i can see it in the help you talking about. |
| 08:33.41 | _Manu_ | can't.. |
| 08:33.53 | _Manu_ | yellow marker is for antidote flag.. |
| 08:35.24 | _Manu_ | there is nothing about markers for other teams flags |
| 08:35.33 | _Manu_ | so.. the help page is correct |
| 08:35.44 | MeBigFatGuy | w00t |
| 08:36.00 | _Manu_ | your first questiong was wrong.. you you was changing it continuosly |
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| 11:58.48 | Street_Hawk | hi |
| 11:58.51 | Street_Hawk | ne1 thr |
| 12:00.23 | Street_Hawk | whr is every1 |
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| 12:09.17 | brad2901 | what is the default time for a short ban? |
| 12:09.59 | Pimpinella | hm,3 hours iirc |
| 12:10.27 | Pimpinella | lemme check |
| 12:10.34 | brad2901 | ok |
| 12:13.35 | Pimpinella | should be a bzdb value, but i don't find it right now... |
| 12:13.42 | Pimpinella | maybe i'm blind? |
| 12:14.42 | Pimpinella | well, it's the same as fr a pollban |
| 12:15.22 | brad2901 | ok, thanks |
| 12:27.46 | brad2901 | pimpinella, you there? |
| 12:27.56 | Pimpinella | brad2901: here |
| 12:28.02 | Pimpinella | default is 300 |
| 12:28.09 | brad2901 | can you come to viper.pimpi.org please? |
| 12:28.17 | Pimpinella | just checked |
| 12:28.19 | brad2901 | ok |
| 12:28.27 | brad2901 | and thanks for the other thing |
| 12:28.30 | Pimpinella | b there |
| 12:28.43 | brad2901 | k |
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| 12:55.13 | Street_Hawk | ne1 thr?? |
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| 14:03.31 | jpa_ | hmm |
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| 14:04.07 | jpa_ | shall i redo bzadmin in python for my own project, or shall i just use stdboth frontend and have nice bzflag devs update it for me? |
| 14:04.33 | jpa_ | probably the first option is the best :) |
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| 14:05.38 | Pimpinella | jpa_: whatya talking about? |
| 14:05.38 | jpa_ | Pimpinella: i'm making bzircd :) |
| 14:05.56 | Pimpinella | which means? |
| 14:06.22 | jpa_ | ie. you connect to it, do like /join #my.server.com:5154 |
| 14:06.45 | jpa_ | and you have like bzadmin, with the exception that irssi or other irc clients are nicer |
| 14:07.10 | Pimpinella | ic |
| 14:07.33 | Pimpinella | JeffM was working on something like that iirc |
| 14:07.44 | jpa_ | humm |
| 14:07.53 | jpa_ | i thought he was using irc as a list server etc. |
| 14:08.40 | Pimpinella | i had something like that running using bzadmin and some script, but i don't remember how i did it |
| 14:09.11 | jpa_ | i have had bzadmin running in a window in irssi |
| 14:09.21 | Pimpinella | might be 2 years ago |
| 14:09.25 | Pimpinella | cool :) |
| 14:09.27 | jpa_ | but it is not the same, it doesn't use irc stuff that way |
| 14:10.01 | jpa_ | ie. nick coloring scripts, name listing and stuff like that don't work |
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| 14:13.47 | jpa_ | hmm.. |
| 14:14.06 | jpa_ | Pimpinella: do you know if there is a command to get info about player teams and stuff like that? |
| 14:14.53 | jpa_ | probably no :( |
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| 14:15.09 | Pimpinella | back |
| 14:16.37 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 14:17.03 | Pimpinella | there are several commands, but none that concentrates info |
| 14:17.08 | jpa_ | should i hack bzadmin to return client information or add a new bzfs command /clientinfo |
| 14:17.37 | jpa_ | i don't care if they aren't in the same place |
| 14:17.53 | jpa_ | what i would like to get is client email strings and team info |
| 14:18.08 | jpa_ | and scores |
| 14:18.10 | Pimpinella | there is /clientquery /playerlist /groupperms /showgroup |
| 14:18.25 | Pimpinella | nothing that shows scores |
| 14:18.29 | Pimpinella | yet |
| 14:18.57 | jpa_ | yup |
| 14:19.04 | jpa_ | i think i'll add it |
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| 14:25.47 | rabbit25 | hi |
| 14:26.24 | jpa_ | hi |
| 14:26.47 | rabbit25 | plez dont eat me again.,.. |
| 14:26.51 | jpa_ | ok |
| 14:27.03 | jpa_ | i didn't even remember to |
| 14:27.09 | rabbit25 | gooooood:) |
| 14:27.15 | jpa_ | but now i'm feeling a bit hungry actually... |
| 14:27.18 | brad2901 | you ate rabbit? how evil |
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| 14:27.37 | rabbit25 | now he did... |
| 14:28.19 | rabbit25 | :( |
| 14:28.31 | rabbit25 | ibot, frag jpa_ |
| 14:28.33 | ibot | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at jpa_ |
| 14:28.36 | brad2901 | ~jpa_-- |
| 14:28.43 | rabbit25 | what does that do? |
| 14:28.52 | brad2901 | karma |
| 14:28.59 | brad2901 | ~karma rabbit25 |
| 14:28.59 | ibot | rabbit25 has karma of -1 |
| 14:29.18 | rabbit25 | ~karma braqd2901 |
| 14:29.18 | ibot | braqd2901 has neutral karma |
| 14:29.22 | jpa_ | ~karma |
| 14:29.22 | ibot | jpa_ has karma of 10 |
| 14:29.24 | rabbit25 | ~karma brad2901 |
| 14:29.24 | ibot | brad2901 has karma of 9 |
| 14:29.27 | brad2901 | :) |
| 14:29.38 | rabbit25 | how do you get karma? |
| 14:29.53 | brad2901 | ~rabbit25++ |
| 14:29.58 | brad2901 | there's some |
| 14:30.02 | rabbit25 | :) |
| 14:30.02 | brad2901 | ~karma rabbit25 |
| 14:30.02 | ibot | rabbit25 has neutral karma |
| 14:30.06 | brad2901 | err |
| 14:30.07 | rabbit25 | ? |
| 14:30.08 | brad2901 | or not |
| 14:30.19 | rabbit25 | ~rabbit25+++ |
| 14:30.22 | rabbit25 | ~rabbit25++ |
| 14:30.28 | jpa_ | you can't karma yourself |
| 14:30.51 | rabbit25 | o |
| 14:31.03 | rabbit25 | ~jpa-- |
| 14:31.15 | jpa_ | ~karma jpa |
| 14:31.15 | ibot | jpa has karma of -3 |
| 14:31.20 | jpa_ | i do not care about him |
| 14:31.28 | rabbit25 | can you make someones karma go down? |
| 14:31.38 | [dmp] | yep |
| 14:31.42 | rabbit25 | how? |
| 14:31.49 | [dmp] | ~jpa_-- |
| 14:31.52 | [dmp] | :) |
| 14:32.01 | rabbit25 | ~jpa_-- |
| 14:32.15 | [dmp] | that will decrease jpa_'s karma |
| 14:32.22 | rabbit25 | ~karma jpa_ |
| 14:32.22 | ibot | jpa_ has karma of 8 |
| 14:32.32 | rabbit25 | ok thanx |
| 14:32.39 | rabbit25 | ~jpa_-- |
| 14:32.48 | brad2901 | poor jpa |
| 14:33.00 | rabbit25 | lol |
| 14:33.02 | [dmp] | there is a #botpark channel if you like to play more with the bot(s) |
| 14:33.08 | rabbit25 | thats what he gets for eating me! |
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| 14:33.23 | rabbit25 | ok |
| 14:33.31 | jpa_ | :( |
| 14:33.38 | jpa_ | ~lart rabbit25 |
| 14:33.41 | brad2901 | ~karma jpa_ |
| 14:33.41 | ibot | jpa_ has karma of 7 |
| 14:34.02 | rabbit25 | ~jpa_-- |
| 14:34.11 | jpa_ | stop it |
| 14:34.14 | rabbit25 | ~karma jpa_ |
| 14:34.14 | ibot | jpa_ has karma of 6 |
| 14:34.34 | rabbit25 | ok i will if you dont eat me again.. |
| 14:35.20 | rabbit25 | ~jpa_-- |
| 14:36.39 | jpa_ | you know, everytime you take karma from me, it goes to DTRemenak |
| 14:36.47 | rabbit25 | it does? |
| 14:36.50 | jpa_ | yes |
| 14:36.54 | jpa_ | ~karma DTRemenak |
| 14:36.54 | ibot | dtremenak has karma of 87 |
| 14:37.07 | rabbit25 | ~karma DTRemenak |
| 14:37.07 | ibot | dtremenak has karma of 87 |
| 14:37.12 | rabbit25 | o |
| 14:45.29 | jpa_ | ibot give rabbit25's karma to me |
| 14:45.31 | ibot | jpa_: ok, any karma taken from rabbit25 will be given to you |
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| 14:45.46 | jpa_ | ~rabbit25-- |
| 14:45.56 | brad2901 | heh |
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| 16:03.58 | Mirella | hello |
| 16:04.06 | ruskie | lo |
| 16:08.50 | jpa_ | o |
| 16:09.19 | menotume | scanline: Thank you ! |
| 16:09.38 | menotume | ~scanline++ |
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| 16:09.46 | jpa_ | hi menotume |
| 16:09.48 | jpa_ | hi SC |
| 16:09.53 | menotume | hellos |
| 16:11.07 | SC | hi jpa |
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| 16:15.03 | jpa_ | SportChick: you got into the topic :P |
| 16:15.38 | ruskie | hmmm jitter???? |
| 16:19.23 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 16:20.01 | jpa_ | i think my patch is ready :) |
| 16:20.27 | ruskie | what are you patching? |
| 16:21.18 | jpa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.37 | jpa_ | to see teams, scores etc. nicely in bzadmin and others like that |
| 16:21.50 | ruskie | cute |
| 16:24.18 | menotume | scanline: ping |
| 16:24.41 | jpa_ | SportChick: ping |
| 16:33.26 | bendy24 | pong! |
| 16:33.40 | ruskie | echo! |
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| 16:42.56 | Pimpinella | jpa_: posted onsf? |
| 16:43.04 | Pimpinella | on sf? |
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| 16:47.22 | Pumpernickel | hey |
| 16:47.59 | SportChick | jpa_: pong |
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| 16:48.38 | SportChick | jpa_: tee hee ! never would have seen that |
| 16:48.54 | Pumpernickel | The makefile doesn't support the Intel compiler, does it? |
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| 16:50.04 | Pimpinella | Pumpernickel: give it a try |
| 16:50.21 | Pumpernickel | I did, and I got an error message... |
| 16:50.34 | Pumpernickel | Which is why I figured I'dcheckhere. |
| 16:50.58 | Pimpinella | i don't think anybody else uses intel compilers here |
| 16:51.17 | Pumpernickel | cool |
| 16:51.46 | Pimpinella | no gcc available? |
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| 16:54.35 | Pumpernickel | *blink* |
| 16:55.28 | Pimpinella | Pumpernickel: JeffM2501 might know, he seems to be at home on any platform |
| 16:56.06 | Pumpernickel | cool |
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| 16:57.24 | gina | brr |
| 16:59.33 | Pumpernickel | x_O |
| 16:59.34 | creeperz | :-P |
| 17:00.30 | Birdie | hi gina |
| 17:03.03 | jpa_ | SportChick: ping |
| 17:03.32 | Pumpernickel | -_- |
| 17:03.33 | jpa_ | Pimpinella: not yet, adding a bit more features :P |
| 17:05.32 | PimperKnuckle | is CVS down ? |
| 17:06.22 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 17:06.43 | jpa_ | do you have the same prob i had few hours ago - cvs just hangs with no output? |
| 17:06.53 | PimperKnuckle | yup |
| 17:07.09 | jpa_ | strange, for me it helped to remove the old dir |
| 17:07.20 | jpa_ | like rm -rf bzflag |
| 17:07.36 | PimperKnuckle | hmm, i'm trying to commit :) |
| 17:07.53 | PimperKnuckle | (not to bzlag project, relax all) :) |
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| 17:10.18 | jpa_ | bzlag :D |
| 17:10.48 | PimperKnuckle | ooops - wasn't intentional :P |
| 17:12.33 | jpa_ | hmm.. why can't you be menotume? it is much cuter nick :) |
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| 17:25.17 | JeffM2501 | huh what? |
| 17:25.18 | PimperKnuckle | jpa_: I like to confuse |
| 17:25.41 | JeffM2501 | I don't think it's up to the makefile to do the intell compiler, but your system |
| 17:28.39 | Pumpernickel | I thought so too, at first, but I looked through the configure script, and it checks for a bunch of different compilers. |
| 17:28.57 | Pumpernickel | And when it doesn't find those, it tosses the error message. |
| 17:29.10 | Pumpernickel | (No suitable compiler found) |
| 17:29.25 | JeffM2501 | our make file dos nothing special for it |
| 17:29.32 | Pumpernickel | ... |
| 17:29.43 | JeffM2501 | I know for VC, the intel compiler just replaced cl, and the IDE handles it |
| 17:29.55 | JeffM2501 | our makefile dosn't even work with command line VC |
| 17:29.59 | jpa_ | hmm.. seems that there is another one having the same lag/jitter problem as sportchick? https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1153890&group_id=3248&atid=103248 |
| 17:30.01 | JeffM2501 | it's a GCC makefile |
| 17:30.17 | Pumpernickel | 'vc'? |
| 17:30.47 | JeffM2501 | visual studio |
| 17:32.13 | Pumpernickel | I'm on Fedora here, so that's not really an option. >_< |
| 17:33.28 | JeffM2501 | I would think the intell compiler has a GCC compatable mode |
| 17:33.38 | JeffM2501 | oherwise nothing would use it outa the box |
| 17:33.50 | JeffM2501 | if so you probalby just symlink it to g++ or someting |
| 17:34.45 | Pumpernickel | I'll try that... |
| 17:35.33 | uso | Pumpernickel: or try to set it with CC in the configure step |
| 17:35.59 | uso | like: CC=gcc-3.4 CXX=g++-3.4 ../bzflag/configure |
| 17:36.09 | uso | dont know if it really needs CC |
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| 17:46.18 | TimRiker | jpa_: note that there is a python script to read server stats. it attaches as a client, but does not enter the game. |
| 17:46.43 | TimRiker | jpa_: I'd prefer you worked on the bzfls script though. ;-) course I'd say that to anyone. |
| 17:47.00 | jpa_ | what is bzfls? |
| 17:47.13 | jpa_ | and i know about bzfquery.py, but it is not what i want |
| 17:47.30 | jpa_ | because what i'm doing is irc <-> bzadmin gateway |
| 18:01.55 | JeffM2501 | uso, a couple of libs are just regular c |
| 18:04.26 | uso | so i was right to set it both for beeing sure :) |
| 18:06.33 | uso | btw there are a few warnings about deprecated options with gcc-3.4, dont know if it would be able to work arround this |
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| 18:34.30 | Chestal | was the player count bug ever fixed? |
| 18:38.18 | SportChick | jpa_: pong |
| 18:38.57 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 18:40.12 | Pimpinella | Chestal: not really i think |
| 18:40.35 | Pimpinella | _Manu_ submitted some stuff that might help |
| 18:41.09 | Pimpinella | and i posted something to sf patches that kept counts clean for me |
| 18:41.17 | jpa_ | SportChick: your pingtimes were 0:23:19 and 1:35:15.. that is 431600ms jitter |
| 18:41.32 | Pimpinella | but i'm pretty unsure if it's really fixed now |
| 18:41.32 | jpa_ | and all i pinged you for is just to be mean :D |
| 18:42.42 | Chestal | any major changes in recent month? There seem to have been some changes to the permission system again |
| 18:42.45 | Chestal | I am losing scope :-) |
| 18:44.02 | Pimpinella | Chestal: yep, many new permissions |
| 18:44.25 | Pimpinella | and new features for groupdb |
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| 18:44.59 | Pimpinella | some more might follow |
| 18:45.20 | orchid | !seen tupone |
| 18:45.21 | guu | orchid: tupone was last seen here 17 hours, 50 minutes, and 33 seconds ago saying: <Tupone> ok |
| 18:45.50 | Pimpinella | just read ChangeLog ;) |
| 18:45.52 | jpa_ | hi orchid |
| 18:46.01 | orchid | hello |
| 18:46.11 | jpa_ | ~gender orchid |
| 18:46.13 | ibot | orchid is female |
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| 18:46.18 | jpa_ | is that true? |
| 18:46.55 | orchid | jpa_: its a problem? |
| 18:47.09 | jpa_ | a bit, yes |
| 18:47.37 | jpa_ | i feel useless if there exists a girl that makes much better code than i do |
| 18:49.18 | orchid | jpa_: I really dont know how to respond to that, without getting angry at you which I dont want to do, get over the fact that women are involved in computing |
| 18:49.47 | jpa_ | i should, yes |
| 18:50.02 | JeffM2501 | jpa, serioulsy you stop this bigotry now |
| 18:50.08 | JeffM2501 | or action will be taken |
| 18:50.10 | JeffM2501 | I'm sick of it |
| 18:50.17 | jpa_ | ~dict bigotry |
| 18:50.18 | JeffM2501 | don't care if your joking or now |
| 18:50.19 | JeffM2501 | not |
| 18:50.31 | jpa_ | ok |
| 18:50.36 | JeffM2501 | yes she codes better then you, deal with it |
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| 19:37.09 | gina | gr |
| 19:37.47 | jpa_ | grr |
| 19:38.05 | gina | guy irritated me on ducati |
| 19:38.35 | jpa_ | why not just revenge by killing him? |
| 19:38.56 | gina | same team |
| 19:39.20 | jpa_ | rejoin :P |
| 19:39.22 | brlcad | and? |
| 19:39.55 | gina | some dutch oversexed guy |
| 19:39.58 | brlcad | my shots kill team members just as well :) |
| 19:40.25 | brlcad | did he get kicked? |
| 19:40.40 | gina | no |
| 19:40.46 | gina | chestal just left |
| 19:41.03 | gina | ahhh |
| 19:41.07 | gina | hey Chestal :p |
| 19:42.36 | gina | then the usual 'gimme your msn' |
| 19:43.37 | Chestal | gina: ah,uhm, I did something else, then got kicked for idling |
| 19:43.42 | gina | lol |
| 19:44.29 | gina | except... |
| 19:45.30 | gina | :p |
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| 19:51.19 | unkl | hello |
| 19:51.27 | brlcad | hello unkl |
| 19:51.43 | unkl | i have just downloaded version 2 of bzflag |
| 19:51.51 | unkl | but i cant connect to any servers |
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| 19:52.31 | unkl | i just get the ERROR: Did not get token |
| 19:53.18 | unkl | i'm not banned |
| 19:54.45 | SportChick | unkl: I'm not talking about you |
| 19:55.02 | unkl | pk |
| 19:55.03 | brlcad | unkl: did you try removing any password set? |
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| 19:55.17 | jpa_ | unkl: you are not putting /identify password in the password field, are you? |
| 19:55.25 | Aribeth | hi SP |
| 19:55.27 | eva-00 | hello |
| 19:55.48 | unkl | i have heard of the registration. how do you register |
| 19:55.59 | eva-00 | who speak french ?? |
| 19:56.17 | unkl | but yes i was putting a password in what i can assume is the server password |
| 19:56.31 | brlcad | ~ibot tr en es we all speak a little bit of french |
| 19:56.44 | eva-00 | :) |
| 19:56.56 | brlcad | ibot: wake up |
| 19:56.58 | ibot | up: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 19:57.06 | brlcad | ~ibot translate en es we all speak a little bit of french |
| 19:57.08 | Thumper_ | ibot: wake ibot |
| 19:57.10 | ibot | ibot: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 19:57.29 | brlcad | ~ibot translate en fr do you have a question? |
| 19:57.49 | SportChick | Aribeth: hi |
| 19:57.51 | jpa_ | unkl: it is only for global login |
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| 19:58.03 | jpa_ | unkl: you can register in my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 19:58.06 | eva-00 | oui j'aimerais bien parler de bzf avec quelqu'un qui parle pluôt bien français... |
| 19:58.06 | gina | ~ibot translate en du best grappig |
| 19:58.14 | gina | LOL |
| 19:58.24 | unkl | ok ill give it a go |
| 19:58.27 | jpa_ | brlcad: isn't it ibot x en es, not ~ibot anything? :) |
| 19:58.30 | gina | eva, pas de probleme |
| 19:58.51 | jpa_ | ibot x en es testing |
| 19:58.51 | gina | tu peux parler francais avec moi |
| 19:59.02 | eva-00 | ben en fait j'aimerais juste savoir si quand on est en zone (fantôme zone) on peut tuer les adversaires..... |
| 19:59.11 | gina | mmm |
| 19:59.27 | brlcad | jpa_: yes, I know .. it works, it's just redundant of me |
| 19:59.29 | gina | non, quand tu es en phantom, tu peux que tuer les autres phantoms |
| 19:59.40 | gina | depuis bzflag 2.0 |
| 19:59.41 | brlcad | it's just not tr, it's x or translate |
| 19:59.55 | gina | avant, tu ne pouvais rien faire |
| 20:00.11 | eva-00 | ah ok ! (depuis que je n'ai pu tuer aucun adversaire j'ai cru que c'était inutile :D) |
| 20:00.13 | eva-00 | merci |
| 20:00.20 | gina | pas de probleme, eva |
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| 20:00.28 | eva-00 | a et avant bzflag 2.0 on pouvait ? |
| 20:00.32 | gina | non |
| 20:00.36 | jpa_ | ibot: tr is <reply> $who: use x, not tr! |
| 20:00.37 | ibot | ...but tr is already something else... |
| 20:00.40 | unkl | so do i just need to register on the forum |
| 20:00.49 | gina | avant 2.0, on ne pouvait meme pas tirer |
| 20:00.51 | jpa_ | ibot tr |
| 20:00.52 | ibot | turkish is #turklug, or #debian.tr, or trke yardm iin #debian.tr |
| 20:01.04 | eva-00 | lol ok |
| 20:01.09 | eva-00 | ça craint :D |
| 20:01.10 | gina | maintenant, c'est changé |
| 20:01.19 | eva-00 | bon ben merci j'y vais bye et merci |
| 20:01.37 | gina | bye eva |
| 20:01.45 | eva-00 | :) |
| 20:02.18 | TimRiker | unkl: yes. register on the bb and then use the same username and password in the game. |
| 20:02.26 | brlcad | gina: botsnack |
| 20:02.33 | SportChick | TimRiker: hi |
| 20:02.38 | gina | any german here ? |
| 20:02.46 | SportChick | ein bisschen |
| 20:02.46 | TimRiker | unkl: if you just clear the password you'll be able to get on the servers that do not require registration. |
| 20:02.47 | Aribeth | nine |
| 20:02.49 | gina | ah ok |
| 20:02.56 | brlcad | ten |
| 20:02.57 | gina | willkommen, SportChick :p |
| 20:03.05 | TimRiker | ~x en gr ibot speaks most any language. |
| 20:03.05 | Aribeth | lol |
| 20:03.09 | SportChick | ich habe in deutchland gewohnen fur vier jahren |
| 20:03.16 | TimRiker | ~x en de ibot speaks most any language. |
| 20:03.18 | gina | wo? |
| 20:03.22 | unkl | Awsome thanks |
| 20:03.31 | TimRiker | unkl: np |
| 20:03.47 | gina | ~x en nl nice, we could talk to eachother :p |
| 20:03.54 | gina | lol |
| 20:04.01 | SportChick | TimRiker: think you might have time to code my debug build this weekend? |
| 20:04.13 | *** join/#bzflag lan56 (lan56@h-68-165-19-166.lsanca54.dynamic.covad.net) |
| 20:04.26 | jpa_ | ~x en fi ibot doesn't speak finnish :( |
| 20:04.28 | TimRiker | SportChick: not looking like it. soccer games, wife's harp lesson, you know. the usual. |
| 20:04.33 | SportChick | :( |
| 20:04.45 | TimRiker | jpa_: he only does what babelfish does. |
| 20:04.56 | unkl | ok now i have another problem,,,, i have done that but every time i click connect the game closes |
| 20:04.57 | jpa_ | yup :( |
| 20:05.14 | TimRiker | ~x en zh so if babelfish does it then ibot should as well. |
| 20:05.46 | TimRiker | unkl: really? that should not happen. os? version? |
| 20:06.20 | jpa_ | SportChick: you could try and reinstall windows - it would eliminate a lot of things (but i understand that you probably do not want to do that?) |
| 20:06.49 | unkl | sorry |
| 20:07.19 | jpa_ | it could just be protecting you from getting addicted.. |
| 20:09.03 | Thumper_ | hmmm cvs up -C doesn't build anymore: make -> /bin/sh: line 0: cd: c-ares: No such file or directory |
| 20:09.43 | Chestal | add -d |
| 20:10.10 | Chestal | without it, cvs won't create and checkout new directories |
| 20:10.32 | TimRiker | SportChick: have a different windows box at the same site? I suspect that it's an issue with your ISP and bzflag jitter code not getting along. |
| 20:10.41 | Thumper_ | ah thx |
| 20:10.57 | jpa_ | TimRiker: it has been tried with two totally different connections |
| 20:11.19 | TimRiker | SportChick: I would be curious to here if you get the same behaviour from a game-knoppix cd. but the current cds still have 1.10.6 on them iirc. |
| 20:11.27 | jpa_ | other has a bit higher base-lag, but same jitter issue exists in both places |
| 20:12.04 | jpa_ | i was about to do livecd for her.. but seems that i'm not intressed enough about it this weekend |
| 20:12.05 | TimRiker | gina: =) gotta love loading unicode fonts... |
| 20:12.16 | TimRiker | ~x en jp and japanese |
| 20:12.23 | gina | omg |
| 20:12.24 | TimRiker | ~x en kr and korean |
| 20:12.28 | gina | noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo |
| 20:12.30 | unkl | has anyone ever encounterd this before? the game crashes out when i click connect |
| 20:12.36 | gina | :p |
| 20:12.55 | jpa_ | does your terminal flash, too? |
| 20:13.00 | TimRiker | unkl: os? version? |
| 20:13.01 | gina | black? |
| 20:13.10 | TimRiker | jpa_: not with that, nope. ;-) |
| 20:13.15 | brlcad | unkl: "clicking" connect shouldn't do anything -- do you mean hitting enter on the menu? |
| 20:13.36 | gina | ~x en ch hungry |
| 20:13.39 | unkl | TimRiker: XP SP2 using biniary release v 2.0.0 |
| 20:13.54 | gina | ~x en cn hungry |
| 20:13.56 | jpa_ | oh |
| 20:14.03 | jpa_ | are you running xp firewall? |
| 20:14.06 | brlcad | i suppose it might be a click if you actually have one of the old clicky ibm keyboards |
| 20:14.15 | TimRiker | hmm. try lowering the display resolution and then connecting. |
| 20:14.20 | unkl | select, click shout at.. it's the same menu item |
| 20:14.32 | jpa_ | it might pop up some evil box "do you want to allow bzflag to connect" and crash the video drivers |
| 20:14.41 | TimRiker | jpa_: ahh. good point. something else (tm) might be killing it. |
| 20:15.04 | unkl | the sp2 firewall did come up |
| 20:15.24 | TimRiker | unkl: and did bzflag crash? or just get minimized? |
| 20:15.26 | unkl | so shall i just restart my pc and see if that gets my video drivers working again? |
| 20:15.40 | unkl | it crashed completly |
| 20:15.54 | jpa_ | oh, i might have said wrong, i didn't mean the video drivers, just the bzflag opengl stuff |
| 20:16.05 | uso | could bzfalg be started in a window under windows to avoid this? |
| 20:16.06 | TimRiker | hmm. well make sure you have the firewall setup correctly. reboot and try again. |
| 20:16.16 | TimRiker | uso: yes. with -window |
| 20:16.32 | jpa_ | you can modify the shortcut, for example, to include -window |
| 20:16.39 | jpa_ | or start it from cmd |
| 20:16.47 | unkl | i have tried....... opening bzflag in window, fullscreen, minimum video effects, minimum video settings |
| 20:16.59 | gina | which video? |
| 20:17.21 | TimRiker | unkl: your issue is the xp firewall. get that fixed and the popup won't happen so the game should run fine. |
| 20:17.30 | unkl | Display settings and Effects settings |
| 20:18.06 | unkl | what port does it need as i am behind nat |
| 20:18.14 | Thumper_ | SportChick: ping |
| 20:18.23 | jpa_ | it needs udp to your computer |
| 20:18.34 | orchid | Aribeth: got it to work now :) |
| 20:18.36 | jpa_ | and server-specific port outwards |
| 20:18.39 | unkl | and bzflag application is in sp2firewall and enabled |
| 20:18.50 | Aribeth | orchid, oh very cool indeed |
| 20:19.00 | Chestal | orchid: 1920x1200 in all its glory? |
| 20:19.04 | unkl | there are no outbound rules and what UDP port does it need in? |
| 20:19.07 | orchid | heh, yup |
| 20:19.22 | gina | hem not tft i suppose, orchid |
| 20:19.45 | Chestal | unkl: bzflag client should work with NAT automatically |
| 20:19.53 | orchid | Chestal: yeah 1920x1200 |
| 20:19.59 | unkl | even if upnp is turned off? |
| 20:20.05 | orchid | gina: I'm not sure, tft is what? |
| 20:20.11 | gina | flatscreen |
| 20:20.21 | Aribeth | 1920x1200 is way cool |
| 20:20.49 | brlcad | rub it in |
| 20:21.33 | Aribeth | :( |
| 20:21.52 | unkl | i have tried completly disabling the firewall now and still no avail |
| 20:22.05 | Aribeth | brlcad, what monitor serup? |
| 20:22.10 | Chestal | orchid: TFT denotes a certain kind of transistor which is used in most modern LCD, so this kind of LCD is often referred to as simply TFT, too |
| 20:22.25 | orchid | ahh |
| 20:22.42 | gina | orchid: //www.webopedia.com/TERM/T/TFT.html |
| 20:22.51 | brlcad | Aribeth: I'm not jealous .. I got a nice setup :) |
| 20:22.59 | brlcad | i meant rub it in for everyone else ;) |
| 20:23.04 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 20:23.15 | Aribeth | what is the setup? |
| 20:23.20 | TimRiker | unkl: whatever port the server listens on, the client will connect to that port on both tcp and udp. |
| 20:23.28 | TimRiker | missed |
| 20:24.51 | gina | orchid: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TFT_LCD |
| 20:25.51 | SportChick | TimRiker: it's not my location - I've tried connecting from home and from hotel and berkeley and issue is the same |
| 20:26.17 | Chestal | how do I kick / ban by slot number in 2.02? |
| 20:26.20 | brlcad | Aribeth: dual and triple displays |
| 20:26.24 | SportChick | TimRiker: in fact, when we tested (and you watched) the other day, I was in berkeley. Now I'm at home |
| 20:26.36 | *** join/#bzflag unkl (~d5a06dcb@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 20:27.00 | unkl | still no joy |
| 20:27.36 | jpa_ | unkl: turn off xp firewall |
| 20:27.41 | _Manu_ | Chestal, /kick #slot reason |
| 20:27.51 | SportChick | TimRiker: /me doesn't know what a game-knoppix cd is |
| 20:28.08 | Chestal | _Manu_: hmm, that was my intuitive approach, let me try again |
| 20:28.14 | TimRiker | SportChick: abootable cd with linux. won't touch your disk os. |
| 20:28.15 | _Manu_ | Chestal, /ban #slot duration reason |
| 20:28.28 | TimRiker | lets us test if it's os related, which we suspect. |
| 20:28.31 | SportChick | TimRiker: hrm. /me is on windows...weird |
| 20:28.47 | Chestal | I tried to kick myself, nothign happens, maybe I am protected? but I woudl expect the server to give some sort of feedback anyway |
| 20:28.59 | SportChick | or do, I mean |
| 20:29.01 | _Manu_ | ChanServ, perhaps.. what's your slot number? |
| 20:29.06 | jpa_ | well, yes |
| 20:29.11 | SportChick | jpa_: oh, ok |
| 20:29.20 | TimRiker | SportChick: are you running any vpn software? or wingate or funky firewall stuff? have you scanned for spyware? though all of this should effect 1.10.x too. |
| 20:29.25 | jpa_ | but i'm not going to do it this week.. anyway |
| 20:29.27 | jpa_ | too busy :/ |
| 20:29.32 | SportChick | TimRiker: no no no yes |
| 20:29.43 | _Manu_ | Chestal, is the server running an updated version? |
| 20:29.47 | TimRiker | SportChick: hmm. |
| 20:29.58 | _Manu_ | ChanServ, just type: /kick without options for a help |
| 20:30.09 | _Manu_ | Chestal, , just type: /kick without options for a help |
| 20:30.17 | SportChick | and no, the answer is NOT 42 |
| 20:30.17 | Chestal | Manu: ah, good catch, not compiled yet, slow box. Still strange, that the 2.01 server does not reply with anything at all |
| 20:30.46 | _Manu_ | ChanServ, slots were added in 2.0.1 two weeks ago |
| 20:30.55 | jpa_ | SportChick is getting married with bzflag? :) |
| 20:31.25 | Chestal | Manu: I amnot ChanServ :-) |
| 20:31.31 | _Manu_ | Chestal, i know o_O |
| 20:31.39 | _Manu_ | this short... thing |
| 20:32.42 | _Manu_ | Chestal, slots also running with /kill command |
| 20:32.52 | _Manu_ | and will be with /mute /unmute soon |
| 20:32.54 | unkl | ALL i have re-installed the game and it still doesn't work. i'm going to see if i can debug this and i'll post to the forum when i have found anything out |
| 20:33.12 | unkl | im off out now cya |
| 20:33.18 | jpa_ | unkl: did you turn off xp firewall? |
| 20:33.38 | unkl | yeah i have |
| 20:33.43 | uso | unkl: try clean up your bzflag cache, helped me out of a freeze |
| 20:34.01 | unkl | is anyone else using omega ati drivers |
| 20:34.19 | unkl | USO: thanks but i have never got the game wotking at all |
| 20:35.07 | SportChick | jpa_: no, SC is married to mozul |
| 20:35.35 | unkl | thanks for your help everybody ill be back later |
| 20:35.47 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/src/common/AutoCompleter.cxx: add /(un)mute to autocompleter |
| 21:04.53 | lan56 | why was the teacher cross-eyed? |
| 21:05.34 | lan56 | because she couldn't control her pupils :)))))) (drum & cymbol sound) |
| 21:05.41 | Thumper_ | okay I found the source of the bug that causes SportChick to crash my server all the time |
| 21:05.57 | Thumper_ | it has to do with global authentication and local user data |
| 21:06.29 | Thumper_ | if you connect to a server using a global bzbb account and do a /setpass |
| 21:06.31 | JeffM2501 | does it have anything to do with "the man" ? |
| 21:06.35 | Thumper_ | which creates user and passwd db entries |
| 21:06.48 | Thumper_ | and then somehow remove the user entry (leaving the password) |
| 21:06.54 | Thumper_ | it crashes each time you connect |
| 21:07.05 | JeffM2501 | probalby should not let it do the /setpass |
| 21:07.14 | JeffM2501 | or any local user management on remote accounts |
| 21:07.38 | Thumper_ | but the /setpass works okay if both user and pwd entries are there |
| 21:07.43 | Thumper_ | and that is what is creates (now) |
| 21:07.57 | Thumper_ | I manually edited the user file to remove my account for testing |
| 21:07.58 | Thumper_ | and it crashes |
| 21:08.03 | Thumper_ | this is the same as sportchick's entry |
| 21:08.13 | Thumper_ | i'll remove her passwd entry and it will probably work after that |
| 21:08.15 | JeffM2501 | so the problem is there is a password entry but not a user entry? |
| 21:08.19 | Thumper_ | yes |
| 21:08.28 | Thumper_ | and when that user connects the server dies |
| 21:08.30 | JeffM2501 | so setpass just needs to check for not having an etry |
| 21:08.34 | JeffM2501 | in ether |
| 21:08.42 | Thumper_ | um |
| 21:08.47 | JeffM2501 | oh it's on connect? |
| 21:08.50 | Thumper_ | I created the user and password entries with /setpass |
| 21:08.54 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 21:08.55 | Thumper_ | the connect to the server crashes the server |
| 21:09.11 | Thumper_ | AFTER the server db has a passwd entry only and no user entry |
| 21:09.15 | JeffM2501 | auth asumes that if the user has a local password they are a local user |
| 21:09.32 | Thumper_ | I'm not sure how this situation was created... |
| 21:09.36 | Thumper_ | but it bombs everytime |
| 21:09.46 | Thumper_ | I'm going to remove her passwd entry now |
| 21:09.48 | JeffM2501 | sould be easy to protect against |
| 21:09.52 | Thumper_ | yup |
| 21:10.05 | Thumper_ | so it doesn't have anything to do with my local gcc setup :) |
| 21:10.06 | JeffM2501 | do you know what function it dies in? |
| 21:10.14 | Thumper_ | yup |
| 21:10.22 | JeffM2501 | what one? |
| 21:10.23 | Thumper_ | just a sec |
| 21:10.31 | JeffM2501 | or are you going to fix it? |
| 21:10.42 | Thumper_ | well I'm not a dev... |
| 21:10.46 | Thumper_ | for bzflag |
| 21:10.57 | JeffM2501 | you could still make a patch |
| 21:10.59 | JeffM2501 | if you wanted |
| 21:11.01 | Thumper_ | but I might be able to fix it in a day or two |
| 21:11.03 | Thumper_ | yup |
| 21:11.15 | Thumper_ | I'll reproduce it and submit a patch |
| 21:11.19 | Thumper_ | soon |
| 21:11.20 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 21:11.21 | Thumper_ | (not today) |
| 21:11.27 | JeffM2501 | then I won't fix it |
| 21:11.30 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 21:23.17 | Silver2 | fine. |
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| 22:44.14 | rabbit25 | hi |
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| 22:53.07 | Silver2 | 2 hours of terse conversation. |
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| 23:15.10 | Pimpinella | JeffM2501: a player named "War Pig" told me he tried to register today, but gave as email dog@dog or something like that |
| 23:15.40 | Pimpinella | no he can't use login, because he can't confirm |
| 23:15.51 | Pimpinella | can you remove the account? |
| 23:17.35 | linuxclub | DTRemenak, wegstar yesterday had problem building c-ares with dev-c++. I left him alone :/ |
| 23:17.37 | JeffM2501 | have him post in the registration issues forum and we can fix him |
| 23:19.14 | Pimpinella | k |
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