| 00:16.05 | uso | this ati drivers make me crazy ... horrible fragile |
| 00:16.38 | uso | probably have booted the box the last days more often than the years before |
| 00:16.56 | uso | anybody else using ati drivers with linux kernel 2.6? |
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| 00:25.54 | Chestal | uso: yes, me |
| 00:26.05 | Chestal | 2.6.10 Kernel |
| 00:27.50 | uso | no problems? |
| 00:28.16 | Chestal | haven't been using them for very long, but works fine so far |
| 00:28.31 | Chestal | I have no DGA, havenm't bothered to see if I can make it work |
| 00:29.17 | uso | accessing tv card immediatly crashes the box, if I change vsync parameter (maybe others) i have to reboot before restarting the X server, ... |
| 00:29.36 | uso | have also 2.6.10 |
| 00:29.55 | Chestal | never tried TV stuff |
| 00:30.37 | uso | they are fast, about 50% faster than the xfree driver, but making the box instable as never before :( |
| 00:31.15 | uso | have to try 2.6.11, if they stop releasing a new version every day ;) |
| 00:35.17 | menotume | Chestal: Do you recall someone from the bz community going to work for ATI ? |
| 00:35.25 | menotume | I'm trying to figure out who that was |
| 00:39.30 | Chestal | yes, I recall that, but not who it was |
| 00:39.37 | Chestal | I think it was orchid who told me |
| 00:39.43 | Chestal | ATI is Caadian, isn't it? |
| 00:39.47 | Chestal | Canadian |
| 00:44.17 | menotume | well, they have a mjor R&D center a about a mile from me - I'll be applying there next week |
| 00:45.19 | menotume | I thought it was the corporate center, may be wrong though |
| 00:47.01 | orchid | !seen MrCooper |
| 00:47.02 | guu | orchid: I have not seen MrCooper. |
| 00:47.09 | orchid | ~seen MrCooper |
| 00:47.11 | ibot | mrcooper <~daenzer@CPE001124084852-CM014500006147.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #freedesktop, 31d 18h 6m 54s ago, saying: 'sh0n: all the current debrix stuff is only in arch I think'. |
| 00:47.31 | orchid | he works for ATI afaik |
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| 00:47.38 | menotume | ahhh, okies, thx |
| 00:47.48 | orchid | but in Toronto :) |
| 00:47.57 | wegstar | ~seen noyb |
| 00:47.58 | ibot | noyb <~noyb@wbar2.lax1-4-8-213-215.dsl-verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 21d 1h 25m 52s ago, saying: '~bzfquery bzflag.blah.pl:5257'. |
| 00:48.07 | wegstar | just wondering where he went :) |
| 00:48.09 | menotume | ahh, yes HQ is in Ontario |
| 00:48.50 | menotume | wow - they don't even list the PA center on the corp website - and it's pretty big |
| 00:49.09 | menotume | i was there once before, some years back |
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| 01:01.20 | menotume | league forums ? |
| 01:01.55 | menotume | or 'real' ones ? :) |
| 01:02.18 | orchid | heh |
| 01:02.24 | orchid | league is pretty bad |
| 01:02.50 | orchid | the other isnt much better in terms of noise |
| 01:03.04 | menotume | :) |
| 01:03.29 | menotume | I wanted to ditch the league forums altogether, but then the rif-raf would go to bzbb |
| 01:03.40 | orchid | but then I didnt have forums at that age, so I dunno |
| 01:05.00 | menotume | JeffM2501: Jah post at league forums: I have been banned from the forums and I have only posted 1 thing there and it was for help anyone know about this |
| 01:05.14 | menotume | :D |
| 01:05.37 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 01:06.07 | menotume | I guess it worked, and they are the same person :) |
| 01:06.15 | JeffM2501 | yup |
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| 01:32.48 | wegstar | hi spldart |
| 01:32.53 | spldart | Hi |
| 01:34.11 | spldart | Heh... I guess I better not make fun of SportChick's jitter <:-o |
| 01:39.51 | wegstar | :) |
| 01:40.30 | orchid | !debian version libcurl3 |
| 01:40.33 | guu | orchid: 8 matches found: libcurl3 (testing: 7.13.1-1); libcurl3 (unstable: 7.13.1-2, 7.13.1-1); libcurl3-dbg (testing: 7.13.1-1); libcurl3-dbg (unstable: 7.13.1-2, 7.13.1-1); libcurl3-dev (testing: 7.13.1-1); libcurl3-dev (unstable: 7.13.1-2, 7.13.1-1); libcurl3-gssapi (testing: 7.13.1-1); libcurl3-gssapi (unstable: 7.13.1-2, 7.13.1-1) |
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| 01:44.10 | MeBigFatGuy | supertanker finally decides to create a website for maps, (good) and then forgets to say where it is :) poor youngin |
| 01:49.50 | uso | orchid: use the one from unstable, testing does not work for compile bzflag |
| 01:49.52 | Aribeth | lol |
| 01:50.47 | uso | !debian version libidn11 |
| 01:50.49 | guu | uso: 4 matches found: libidn11 (testing: 0.5.13-1.0); libidn11 (unstable: 0.5.13-1.0, 0.5.2-3); libidn11-dev (testing: 0.5.13-1.0); libidn11-dev (unstable: 0.5.13-1.0, 0.5.2-3) |
| 01:51.00 | orchid | uso I use unstable though |
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| 01:52.19 | uso | then you are safe :) |
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| 02:16.50 | spldart | Bye all. |
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| 02:17.05 | bz2132 | do you guys think that a 356 up speed could run 8 people, 2 shot no jump? |
| 02:17.12 | bz2132 | and run that with no lag? |
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| 02:22.39 | bzflagwiz | ~seen Nidhoggr |
| 02:22.41 | ibot | nidhoggr is currently on #bzflag |
| 02:23.23 | bzflagwiz | my.bzflag.org appears to be down and I can't connect to bzflag.secretplace.us |
| 02:23.56 | bzflagwiz | would appear to be a dns issue... |
| 02:23.57 | [dmp] | bzflagwiz: works for me |
| 02:24.10 | [dmp] | (my.bzflag.org) |
| 02:25.47 | MeBigFatGuy | ah! denmark |
| 02:26.43 | bzflagwiz | hmm - problem must be closer to me. |
| 02:26.46 | bz2132 | do you guys think that a 356 up speed could run 8 people, 2 shot no jump? |
| 02:26.52 | bz2132 | and run with nolag? |
| 02:27.15 | MeBigFatGuy | dunno |
| 02:28.04 | bzflagwiz | bz2132 - as long as your upload capacity is constant, I think you have a chance - I'd be more comfortable saying 6 with no lag though... |
| 02:28.38 | bz2132 | mk, 6 will be decent |
| 02:28.57 | MeBigFatGuy | i don't think no jump helps lag much |
| 02:29.13 | bz2132 | *shrugs* Just what my cousin suggested |
| 02:29.33 | MeBigFatGuy | perhaps dead reckoning is more efficient with out jump, not sure |
| 02:30.14 | uso | have 8 player, 3 shots with jump here on 600k, gets a bit laggy if it's full |
| 02:33.17 | SportChick | spldart: you do and you will have an irate chicky on your hands |
| 02:34.40 | wegstar | he's gone.. :P |
| 02:35.00 | orchid | no rico will help lag I think no? |
| 02:35.47 | MeBigFatGuy | no |
| 02:36.18 | MeBigFatGuy | a bullet's shot is predetermined at the moment it is fired |
| 02:36.22 | MeBigFatGuy | (other than gm) |
| 02:36.27 | MeBigFatGuy | no gm will help lag |
| 02:36.29 | orchid | ah |
| 02:36.40 | orchid | poor bullets |
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| 02:36.59 | menotume | n8player should be good on 600k |
| 02:37.09 | menotume | 600k both ways ? |
| 02:37.48 | uso | 2m down/600k up |
| 02:37.55 | orchid | jzuan used to run a server on dialup |
| 02:38.01 | MeBigFatGuy | heh |
| 02:38.11 | menotume | i get 6 players on 256/2m |
| 02:39.02 | uso | without increasing lag? |
| 02:39.16 | menotume | the 6th one starts to increase lag |
| 02:39.16 | uso | my ping times goes up to 100ms |
| 02:39.26 | menotume | 7 and 8, you can really see it |
| 02:40.04 | menotume | what is your ping time with 1-2 players ? |
| 02:40.39 | uso | hmm, about 20 ms, not sure |
| 02:40.49 | menotume | ohhh - strange |
| 02:40.52 | uso | it's about 10 ms if line is idle |
| 02:41.17 | menotume | WinBloze ? |
| 02:41.25 | uso | no, linux |
| 02:41.32 | uso | but cable modem, no adsl |
| 02:41.42 | menotume | same here |
| 02:41.58 | menotume | 600k up cable modem - nice |
| 02:42.18 | uso | yes, thats why i have cable and not adsl :) |
| 02:42.33 | menotume | :) |
| 02:42.39 | uso | the second reason is, adsl will be disconnected automatically all 24 hours here |
| 02:42.47 | menotume | ohh |
| 02:43.05 | menotume | they change yer IP ? |
| 02:43.13 | uso | yes |
| 02:43.18 | menotume | heh |
| 02:43.28 | uso | i have my ip usally over months |
| 02:43.36 | menotume | me too - it's nice |
| 02:43.45 | uso | pseudo static :) |
| 02:44.02 | menotume | ahh, switzerland |
| 02:44.08 | menotume | maybe i should move there |
| 02:44.09 | uso | yes :) |
| 02:44.12 | uso | lol |
| 02:44.47 | menotume | Local hpne company installed fibre here in the summer - can't wait for that |
| 02:44.59 | menotume | supposed to be 2M/5M - dedicated line |
| 02:45.13 | uso | fibre end to end? wow |
| 02:45.17 | menotume | ya |
| 02:45.30 | uso | how much per month? |
| 02:45.33 | menotume | dunno when it's gonna happen though |
| 02:45.47 | menotume | I heard $50/month - but who knows |
| 02:46.03 | menotume | they want serious compeition with cable |
| 02:46.04 | uso | wow, cheep ... mabe I should move ;) |
| 02:46.08 | menotume | lol |
| 02:46.22 | uso | where are you? usa? |
| 02:46.26 | menotume | yes |
| 02:46.51 | menotume | not many places here have it .... but I'm in a pretty big development |
| 02:46.57 | uso | states are usually a bit ahead |
| 02:47.09 | wegstar | eek... which state? |
| 02:47.16 | menotume | PA |
| 02:47.31 | uso | but for europe switzerland isn't bad :) |
| 02:47.44 | menotume | ya - your cable is better than mine |
| 02:47.46 | uso | what is PA? pensylvania? |
| 02:47.50 | menotume | yep |
| 02:48.09 | menotume | I'm about 30 miles NE of Philadelphia |
| 02:48.47 | uso | but philadelphia i know without it |
| 02:49.09 | menotume | :) |
| 02:50.19 | wegstar | I can't find such a cheap service here in CA :( |
| 02:50.43 | menotume | well, my cable is $40/month now |
| 02:50.50 | menotume | 256k up |
| 02:51.07 | uso | even chaeper than mine ... i pay about $70 |
| 02:51.15 | menotume | $45 after they add in all the taxes |
| 02:51.36 | menotume | just for the modem service (no tv) ? |
| 02:51.47 | uso | me too |
| 02:52.07 | uso | although tv is cheap here, only $20 |
| 02:52.13 | menotume | ohhhh |
| 02:52.20 | menotume | well, ther you go then |
| 02:52.24 | uso | different worlds :) |
| 02:52.34 | menotume | averages right out then :) |
| 02:52.45 | uso | price for tv is regulated by government |
| 02:52.54 | uso | internet no0t |
| 02:52.56 | uso | not |
| 02:53.26 | menotume | ahh |
| 02:53.58 | uso | but on the other hand i have to play another $20 for receiving tv at all |
| 02:54.10 | uso | don't know if you know such a rate in usa |
| 02:54.52 | uso | aeh, pay |
| 02:55.35 | menotume | nope |
| 02:55.50 | menotume | is free if you use antenna :) |
| 02:57.04 | uso | this is to finance the nationalized tv, regardless of you watch it or not |
| 02:57.13 | menotume | ahhh |
| 02:57.33 | menotume | well, we have 'PBS' channels (Public Broadcasting Syetem) |
| 02:57.34 | uso | having a tv device is enough to be forced to pay this rate |
| 02:57.54 | menotume | but, they run on coprporate and private donations |
| 02:58.08 | menotume | mostly documentaries and such |
| 02:58.25 | wegstar | or other educational programs... |
| 02:58.29 | menotume | ua |
| 02:58.32 | menotume | ya |
| 02:58.38 | menotume | good stuff somtimes |
| 02:58.48 | wegstar | like Sesame Street :) |
| 02:58.53 | uso | here too, news, docs and with less advertising |
| 02:58.53 | menotume | :) |
| 02:59.00 | uso | lol |
| 02:59.21 | menotume | well, nice chat ... |
| 02:59.26 | uso | have watched this a lot long time ago :) |
| 03:00.29 | uso | oh, formula 1 is starting |
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| 03:07.58 | koala64 | Where can a total newbie go to find out how to get started? |
| 03:08.11 | wegstar | on what? |
| 03:08.37 | koala64 | Sorry. I was directed here trying to find help for bzflag |
| 03:09.06 | wegstar | ah |
| 03:09.26 | wegstar | go google bzflag strategy |
| 03:09.33 | wegstar | ~google bzflag strategy |
| 03:09.38 | wegstar | and play more... |
| 03:09.47 | wegstar | err... |
| 03:09.56 | wegstar | gameplay help or something else...??? |
| 03:10.13 | orchid | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.24 | koala64 | I just installed an Octane (Irix 6.5) and I don't know how to find servers |
| 03:13.07 | orchid | you dont see servers in the list when you start the game? |
| 03:13.33 | koala64 | No. So I think there must be some config issue, maybe SGI related |
| 03:14.56 | koala64 | Maybe there's a resource file I need to plant somewhere before I start the game. |
| 03:15.37 | orchid | well it shouldnt matter, it doesnt need one to run the first time |
| 03:17.20 | koala64 | Good point. My problem doesn't seem to be getting to the internet. I can start my own server, then that's the only one in the list. Makes for a lonely game. You didn't have to do any config before starting up? |
| 03:18.10 | orchid | hmm, no the client will just use defaults |
| 03:18.28 | orchid | try typing in an adress manually.. |
| 03:18.34 | orchid | ~bzflist |
| 03:19.05 | bzflagwiz | koala64 - what version of bzflag are you running? Depending on how old it is, there may not be any servers running that version. The version is printed on the screen when you first start it up. |
| 03:19.19 | MeBigFatGuy | are u using -public ? |
| 03:20.08 | orchid | bzflagwiz that might be it too |
| 03:21.15 | koala64 | Don't get a version. I have what came bundled with the OS. Haven't tried -public. |
| 03:21.25 | koala64 | I will try the manual address. |
| 03:22.27 | koala64 | Have to go. Something unforseen. Thank you all very much for your help. |
| 03:22.28 | koala64 | quit |
| 03:22.38 | orchid | koala64: when the client starts, you will see the version in your message window |
| 03:24.57 | bzflagwiz | Since he said that it was the version that came with Irix, I'm guessing he was using a 1.7 version. |
| 03:26.04 | bzflagwiz | I know he's gone, but it looks like he will have to compile from source, since there isn't a specific package for Irix anymore AFAIK |
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| 03:29.49 | bz2191 | is it possible to co-host a server |
| 03:29.54 | bz2191 | split bandwidth |
| 03:29.56 | bz2191 | ? |
| 03:29.59 | bzflagwiz | hrm - I don't see the Minnesota sourceforge mirror when I download anymore :( I like it because it has good download speeds. They must be mad that my Iowa State Cyclones beat them in the first round of the NCAA tourney :) |
| 03:31.03 | bz2191 | hm? |
| 03:31.49 | bzflagwiz | Not sure what you mean by co-host. Share a hi-speed connection with another bzflag server? |
| 03:32.02 | bz2191 | uhm |
| 03:32.04 | bz2191 | not quite |
| 03:32.06 | bz2191 | like |
| 03:32.18 | bz2191 | if your friend has a high speed connection |
| 03:32.28 | bz2191 | annd you want to split the load of bandwidth |
| 03:32.36 | bz2191 | is it possible to co-host a server |
| 03:34.02 | bzflagwiz | technically, that is possible. But if you are talking about cable or DSL, having that connection dedicated to a bzflag server is often pushing the limit. Having less than the full bandwidth available might hurt your server |
| 03:34.46 | bzflagwiz | You might be ok if you limit the number of players on the server though. |
| 03:35.04 | purple_cow | you can't run one server over two internet connections that go to separate places |
| 03:36.30 | bzflagwiz | oh - i may have misread what you intended bz2191. I thought you meant put your computer at his house and share his bandwidth. No, you can't pool your two connections to increase bandwidth... |
| 03:41.09 | bz2191 | mk |
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| 03:43.14 | EvilChiknNugget | hullo all |
| 03:43.30 | orchid | hi |
| 03:43.38 | brlcad | NUGGY! |
| 03:43.47 | brlcad | how goes it? |
| 03:43.49 | brlcad | :) |
| 03:43.55 | EvilChiknNugget | purty good :) |
| 03:44.24 | EvilChiknNugget | haven't been on bz for a while |
| 03:44.28 | brlcad | the prodigal nugget has returned |
| 03:44.50 | EvilChiknNugget | heheh, got swept up in an MMOG game and lost track of time for about 6 months |
| 03:45.01 | brlcad | that'll happen, eh? |
| 03:45.12 | EvilChiknNugget | yep :) |
| 03:46.03 | EvilChiknNugget | your hot mustard and bbq cannot hurt me! my kryptonite is sweet & sour :) |
| 03:46.36 | EvilChiknNugget | bz 2.0 is pretty interesting |
| 03:46.51 | brlcad | i'm sorry to hear that |
| 03:46.53 | EvilChiknNugget | haven't played it too much yet, but I'm gonna get on there later tonight |
| 03:46.58 | brlcad | i mean .. *cough* .. neat |
| 03:47.52 | EvilChiknNugget | heheh.. so whats new round here? |
| 03:49.11 | brlcad | not much |
| 03:49.28 | brlcad | ibot's pregnant, guu ran off and got married |
| 03:49.51 | JBdiGriz | brlcad is drinking again |
| 03:49.54 | EvilChiknNugget | yah, I noticed guu was missing |
| 03:50.05 | JBdiGriz | guu, how are you? |
| 03:50.06 | EvilChiknNugget | oh wait.. |
| 03:50.06 | guu | I'm great JBdiGriz, how the heck are you? |
| 03:50.06 | brlcad | JBdiGriz says he wasn't anywhere near either of them, but we all know how that usually goes |
| 03:50.07 | EvilChiknNugget | nm |
| 03:50.31 | EvilChiknNugget | didn't guu have @ before? |
| 03:50.36 | EvilChiknNugget | ah well, either way |
| 03:50.36 | JBdiGriz | "near" is a relative term in the internet world. |
| 03:50.59 | EvilChiknNugget | heh.. near as in on the far side of the bed ;) |
| 03:51.21 | EvilChiknNugget | sweet... NOLA is my old hometown :) |
| 03:51.25 | EvilChiknNugget | have fun down there? |
| 03:51.51 | JBdiGriz | How could you not have fun? It was definitely a big party at the conference. |
| 03:52.38 | EvilChiknNugget | heheh, get to see any of the good sites or was it just drunken partying the whole time? |
| 03:53.22 | JBdiGriz | It was mostly walking around the convention center from about 8-6, and then talking with other people for most of the evening. |
| 03:53.50 | EvilChiknNugget | ah well, even that is fun in new orleans :) |
| 03:53.54 | JBdiGriz | drunken partying didn't happen a whole lot, although I did find a bar with Guiness on St. Patrick's day |
| 03:54.17 | EvilChiknNugget | I'm pissed I missed my yearly trip down there this year |
| 03:55.45 | EvilChiknNugget | anyhow.. I've got work way early in the morning tomorrow, I just wanted to stop by and say hello :) I'll be around again soon |
| 03:56.28 | brlcad | good to see you again! |
| 03:56.56 | brlcad | stay away from the mmog :) |
| 03:57.00 | EvilChiknNugget | you too, I posted at the forums but it was all noobs that I've never heard of there |
| 03:57.24 | brlcad | I haven't read them in a few weeks |
| 03:57.25 | EvilChiknNugget | heh, I'm trying.. I took a week off from it to see what has changed in the world |
| 03:57.29 | brlcad | been distracted myself |
| 03:57.45 | orchid | ~MMOG |
| 03:58.05 | brlcad | ~mmog is a massive multiplayer online game |
| 03:58.06 | ibot | okay, brlcad |
| 03:58.13 | EvilChiknNugget | so apparently bush got reelected when I wasn't looking.. damn online games.. so distracting |
| 03:58.22 | brlcad | hehe |
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| 03:58.59 | EvilChiknNugget | ok, gotta run.. cya all soon |
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| 04:12.34 | Ampere | http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=14-127-155&DEPA=1 is this worth the price tag? |
| 04:14.17 | creeperz | Ampere: id just go with a 9800 pro |
| 04:14.26 | creeperz | less money but just as worth it |
| 04:14.42 | MeBigFatGuy | hehe: a suggested mirror for a code download was mirrors.playboy.com |
| 04:14.57 | wegstar | heh.. :) |
| 04:15.09 | Ampere | k . . . tanks alot |
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| 08:33.23 | DTRemenak_lap | for anyone who wants to talk to me over the next week or so, DTRemenak isn't actually listening, since I forgot to enable remote access to my desktop. DTRemenak_lap will be listening if he's joined. |
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| 08:34.24 | sgk284 | DTRemenak_lap, traveling the world? |
| 08:34.26 | sgk284 | :) |
| 08:34.41 | DTRemenak_lap | just the pacific coast :) |
| 08:35.47 | sgk284 | heh |
| 08:38.52 | sgk284 | DTRemenak_lap, your _lap is messing up my autocomplete! |
| 08:38.54 | sgk284 | :) |
| 08:38.56 | sgk284 | anyway... |
| 08:39.01 | DTRemenak_lap | heh |
| 08:39.25 | sgk284 | one thing about the getSlotByNumber thing |
| 08:39.26 | DTRemenak_lap | I think I have "DTRemenak" on my alerts list anyway |
| 08:40.09 | sgk284 | if a player somehow knows anyother player's ip and makes his callsign that ip, it will ban whoever comes up first in the list, same idea for two folks on a subnet |
| 08:40.28 | sgk284 | a little symbol would fix it |
| 08:40.38 | sgk284 | and maybe a warning if two people shared an ip |
| 08:40.46 | DTRemenak_lap | heh |
| 08:41.00 | sgk284 | what do you think a good symbol would be? |
| 08:41.08 | sgk284 | unless you see a flaw in my logic |
| 08:41.33 | DTRemenak_lap | I don't see what it has to do with slot numbers... |
| 08:42.05 | sgk284 | wait let me recheck the code for a sec:) |
| 08:42.08 | DTRemenak_lap | two people on a subnet is a valid concern |
| 08:42.22 | DTRemenak_lap | should probably issue a warning in that case |
| 08:42.36 | jpa_ | morning |
| 08:43.09 | DTRemenak_lap | heck, make it broad enough that any ban which will catch two or more non-robot players will trigger a warning |
| 08:43.15 | sgk284 | you cant ban by ip anymore? |
| 08:43.21 | DTRemenak_lap | s/catch/match |
| 08:43.22 | sgk284 | mornign jpa |
| 08:43.43 | DTRemenak_lap | hmm, you can ban by ip, of course |
| 08:43.57 | DTRemenak_lap | moin jpa_ |
| 08:45.57 | sgk284 | DTRemenak, it may be jsut because its late... but it appears getSlotNumber doesnt lookup IPs |
| 08:46.13 | sgk284 | 3:30 am here:) |
| 08:46.38 | sgk284 | i'll pm you |
| 08:46.43 | DTRemenak_lap | sgk284: I don't have the source in front of me. maybe you're right. but maybe banning by ip does something other than calling getSlotNumber? |
| 08:46.56 | DTRemenak_lap | You wrote a lot of that code IIRC :) |
| 08:47.01 | sgk284 | heh |
| 08:47.03 | sgk284 | yea |
| 08:47.22 | DTRemenak_lap | so you probably know better than I do |
| 08:47.52 | DTRemenak_lap | I can't imagine that anyone would commit something which broke banning by IP though :) |
| 08:48.07 | sgk284 | :) |
| 08:48.32 | sgk284 | i'll check on secretplace, i think they are running the code, but if i'm reading this properly then it doesnt anymore |
| 08:53.06 | Pimpinella | sgk284: it's runningin viper and doing fine |
| 08:53.48 | sgk284 | latest cvs? |
| 08:54.30 | sgk284 | oh god! nevermind i'm a moron.... i pulled an old version of cvs two nights ago to try and fix my -lbind problem... never updated |
| 08:54.42 | Pimpinella | at least what _Manu_ committed lately |
| 08:54.50 | sgk284 | this cvs is nearly two months old... |
| 08:54.59 | sgk284 | heh time to update and check again:) |
| 08:55.00 | DTRemenak_lap | hahaha |
| 08:55.00 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 08:55.16 | jpa_ | "latest cvs".... |
| 08:55.21 | sgk284 | haha |
| 08:55.22 | jpa_ | :) |
| 08:55.23 | sgk284 | wow |
| 08:55.26 | sgk284 | it is too late:) |
| 08:55.38 | Pimpinella | Nidhoggr: ping |
| 08:56.01 | Pimpinella | he'll surely sleep :( |
| 08:56.36 | sgk284 | okay well its 4:00 am here and i have a fun day ahead of me replacig all my work's hubs with nifty new switches.... |
| 08:56.44 | sgk284 | welcome to the 21st century :) |
| 08:56.50 | lan56 | heh |
| 08:56.51 | DTRemenak_lap | cool :) |
| 08:56.59 | sgk284 | g night |
| 08:57.03 | jpa_ | gnight sgk284 |
| 08:57.06 | DTRemenak_lap | makes a huge difference, what kind of numbers are you looking at? |
| 08:57.50 | DTRemenak_lap | or just g'night. only 1 am here :) |
| 08:57.50 | sgk284 | not too many, its only like a 30 computer network... the current hubs only support 100Mb, updating to gigabit too so should be a significant improvement |
| 08:58.19 | sgk284 | the current hubs are 10 years old... and only support half duplex |
| 08:58.27 | sgk284 | this upgrade is desparetly needed |
| 08:58.32 | sgk284 | :) |
| 08:58.47 | DTRemenak_lap | eeek |
| 08:58.55 | sgk284 | haha |
| 08:59.01 | DTRemenak_lap | half duplex hubs...you must have mad collisionz on that thing :) |
| 08:59.05 | Pimpinella | good quality if they did teir job for so long though |
| 08:59.09 | jpa_ | yup.. i guess everyone is playing bzflag and the hubs don't like that? :) |
| 08:59.13 | sgk284 | yea... you have no idea how bad it is |
| 08:59.32 | sgk284 | Pimpinella, yea... they are 3com back from 3com's good era |
| 08:59.34 | sgk284 | :) |
| 09:00.18 | sgk284 | if such a thing existed;) |
| 09:00.46 | DTRemenak_lap | 3com made a lot of nice hardware |
| 09:01.17 | sgk284 | yea |
| 09:18.31 | jpa_ | nah |
| 09:18.37 | jpa_ | it is morning already |
| 09:26.03 | lan56 | ahh, good point :) |
| 09:26.56 | jpa_ | why does everyone have some strange number after their nick? |
| 09:28.41 | _Manu_ | jpa_, those are slots numbers for using in some commands |
| 09:28.51 | _Manu_ | and only if you are admin can see it |
| 09:28.53 | lan56 | it's the style, you are so 5 minutes ago jpa_ :) |
| 09:29.03 | jpa_ | ok, so i can do /kick #56 ?:) |
| 09:29.03 | lan56 | just preference or individuality I guess |
| 09:29.15 | _Manu_ | no.. you must /kick #56 reason... |
| 09:29.24 | jpa_ | oh, ok :) |
| 09:29.40 | _Manu_ | remember a reason is required.. also duration and reason for ban |
| 09:29.42 | jpa_ | 11:29:32 [freenode] -!- #56: No such channel |
| 09:29.48 | jpa_ | what does that mean? |
| 09:29.56 | jpa_ | is channel the same as a slot? :) |
| 09:30.03 | _Manu_ | not in bzflag |
| 09:30.08 | jpa_ | yup :P |
| 09:30.21 | jpa_ | but i wasn't speaking about it at the first place :P |
| 09:30.49 | jpa_ | but just about these lan56 sgk284 blast007 people |
| 09:31.01 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 09:31.20 | _Manu_ | you can imagine what it is |
| 09:31.22 | lan56 | Jeffm2501 as well |
| 09:31.40 | lan56 | Guest302 |
| 09:31.50 | _Manu_ | IC? k |
| 09:31.52 | jpa_ | sommertimer3 and CIA-5 |
| 09:32.10 | jpa_ | and Brad2901 :) |
| 09:32.17 | lan56 | and now -- jpa_650 :) |
| 09:32.36 | jpa_ | nah, i would be jpa240 to imitate sgk284 :) |
| 09:32.46 | lan56 | ahh :) |
| 09:33.18 | _Manu_ | s/IC/IQ |
| 09:33.59 | jpa_ | hmm :) |
| 09:34.03 | jpa_ | could be |
| 09:34.22 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 09:34.36 | jpa_ | i'm sure that is true in lan56's case atleast |
| 09:34.44 | lan56 | hey :) |
| 09:34.51 | _Manu_ | hehe |
| 09:35.17 | _Manu_ | worse is for blast.. heh |
| 09:35.27 | jpa_ | :D |
| 09:36.00 | lan56 | heh |
| 09:36.29 | lan56 | I was so smart in school that I went to college straight from junior high |
| 09:37.09 | jpa_ | I was in so smart school that it had no junior high nor college |
| 09:37.35 | lan56 | I didn't even go to school for learning, I just went for fun because I was too smart I had nothing else to do |
| 09:38.09 | jpa_ | i went into school because i was forced to, but i was smart enough to get bored and do nothing |
| 09:42.09 | lan56 | sure, how much is the rent? |
| 09:42.22 | jpa_ | nothing |
| 09:42.34 | lan56 | I'll take it! :) |
| 09:43.05 | jpa_ | you'll have to plug some usb cables to my computers when i need it, though |
| 09:43.42 | lan56 | well, if its free rent I can deal with that |
| 09:44.20 | jpa_ | i thought so :) |
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| 12:21.02 | brad2901 | does '/set _rainType none' not work with 2.0.2? It seems to just rain white boxes when I do it. |
| 13:24.31 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CmdLineOptions.cxx: options/end case sensitivity |
| 13:26.31 | brad2901 | just found a bug with player count.. |
| 13:26.32 | brad2901 | http://brad2901.no-ip.org/bzfi0000.png |
| 13:27.26 | jpa_ | lol |
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| 13:27.43 | jpa_ | some bugs have been known, but do you have steps to reproduce it? |
| 13:30.31 | brad2901 | yes |
| 13:30.39 | jpa_ | cool |
| 13:30.43 | brad2901 | capture a flag when the all the other team has left |
| 13:31.02 | brad2901 | try that.. |
| 13:31.24 | jpa_ | ok.. |
| 13:31.40 | jpa_ | could you please join on my server to help me test it? |
| 13:31.56 | brad2901 | ok |
| 13:32.01 | brad2901 | which one? |
| 13:32.04 | brad2901 | rivers? |
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| 15:10.46 | SportChick | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3251 |
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| 15:36.16 | Mirella | hello |
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| 15:52.55 | gina | FX5200 is slower on a winxp compared to linux 2.6 ? |
| 15:54.10 | SportChick | if anyone hears of someone from t-online (in Europe mostly) trying to get onto secretplace and can't (because of a hostban), tell them they need to register their callsign and email bzflag@dragon.org! thanks! |
| 15:55.41 | Pimpinella | SportChick: whitelist? |
| 15:56.55 | Pimpinella | do you add them manually? |
| 15:57.19 | Birdie | hi gina |
| 15:57.44 | Pimpinella | SportChick: do you need my real email or what i use within my email string? |
| 16:10.41 | SportChick | pimpi, I have to add them manually. I need your registered callsign is all |
| 16:10.58 | Pimpinella | already on t's way ;) |
| 16:11.13 | SportChick | I think I already added you ("Pimpinella"), right? |
| 16:11.18 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 16:11.20 | Pimpinella | yep |
| 16:11.26 | SportChick | you're done, no worries |
| 16:12.21 | Pimpinella | SportChick: some servers might force registration in order to play soon, do you think SP will follow in that? |
| 16:14.25 | SportChick | Pimpinella: no idea - you'd have to ask nidhoggr |
| 16:17.51 | Pimpinella | Nidhoggr: ping |
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| 16:29.39 | gina | 2.0.2 compilation => heavy flickering of screen and unuseable |
| 16:29.59 | gina | someone? |
| 16:30.05 | Pimpinella | os? |
| 16:30.11 | gina | linux 2.6.x |
| 16:30.39 | gina | the whole 1.11.x and 2.0.0 worked fine |
| 16:30.45 | Pimpinella | was nv card, correct? |
| 16:30.48 | gina | yes |
| 16:31.16 | Pimpinella | is it release or cvs? |
| 16:31.20 | gina | releas |
| 16:31.41 | Pimpinella | hm |
| 16:31.42 | gina | screen gets black, I see the tab names (all/chat etc) and then screen starts flickering |
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| 16:32.30 | Pimpinella | sometimes the screen stays black here at that point |
| 16:32.43 | Pimpinella | but it's a listserver issue then |
| 16:33.00 | gina | flickering?? |
| 16:33.07 | Pimpinella | tried several times |
| 16:33.08 | gina | black + desktop |
| 16:33.12 | Pimpinella | no filckering here |
| 16:33.33 | Pimpinella | try running with -window |
| 16:33.46 | gina | i do |
| 16:33.49 | gina | full screen |
| 16:34.13 | gina | mmmm |
| 16:34.19 | gina | cvs update doesnt work either |
| 16:34.19 | Pimpinella | works or the same problem? |
| 16:34.25 | gina | no, same |
| 16:34.39 | gina | mmmm no! |
| 16:34.44 | gina | window works, fullscreen not |
| 16:35.23 | Pimpinella | did you upgrade nvidia driver lately? |
| 16:36.12 | gina | no |
| 16:36.45 | Pimpinella | just an idea: edit ~/.bzf/2.0/config.cfg |
| 16:37.42 | Pimpinella | set resolution |
| 16:37.58 | Pimpinella | set this to your current desktop resolution |
| 16:38.26 | gina | whree? |
| 16:38.38 | Pimpinella | ~/.bzf/2.0/config.cfg |
| 16:38.42 | gina | al |
| 16:38.46 | gina | ah |
| 16:39.32 | gina | config.cfg.linux? |
| 16:39.53 | gina | nope, doesnt work |
| 16:39.54 | Pimpinella | only config.cfg here |
| 16:40.37 | gina | thanks |
| 16:40.43 | gina | but it *is* config.cfg.linux |
| 16:40.46 | gina | works though |
| 16:41.19 | gina | going for a play now :p bye |
| 17:04.01 | Nidhoggr | Pimpinella: pong |
| 17:04.30 | Nidhoggr | sorta good and sorta inconvenient at the same time. |
| 17:04.45 | Nidhoggr | really leaning hard into my monastic practices. |
| 17:07.12 | Nidhoggr | Pimpinella: regarding forced registration: I don't think I'll force it soon. If the abusers get out of hand, I may at some point in the future, but I'm not planning on it currently. |
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| 17:16.55 | Nidhoggr | Pimpinella: email me if you still have questions. mandrake@dragon.org |
| 17:18.46 | brlcad | as long as it takes |
| 17:19.27 | jpa_ | ok, but i'm going to sleep in 2 hours 40mins, could you stop before that? |
| 17:19.36 | jpa_ | otherwise i'll get no sleep at all :/ |
| 17:19.41 | brlcad | probably not |
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| 18:04.32 | Play | http://www.playzero.com/ |
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| 18:16.35 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, you going to do a mac build of 2.0.2 ? |
| 18:17.12 | brlcad | that is the theory |
| 18:17.33 | brlcad | suppose I should, shouldn't I |
| 18:26.09 | JeffM2501 | it would make scorch shut up |
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| 18:43.57 | Birdie | is it normal that on secret place number of jumps with wings went down very much? only 3 or 4 |
| 18:45.37 | Chestal | are there any servers in the list which use their own textures? |
| 18:48.49 | brad2901 | is there a bzfs command to change where the master ban list is located? |
| 18:49.16 | jpa_ | yes. |
| 18:49.31 | brad2901 | what is the coomand? :) |
| 18:49.51 | jpa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.51 | jpa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.54 | jpa_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:50.00 | orchid | heh, Comanche is playing |
| 18:50.06 | brad2901 | thanks jpa |
| 18:50.10 | Birdie | hi orchid |
| 18:50.14 | jpa_ | np brad2901 <3 |
| 18:50.15 | orchid | hello |
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| 18:50.45 | orchid | hi tankitty |
| 18:50.45 | brad2901 | will that disable the default master ban list? |
| 18:50.53 | tankitty | hi orchid |
| 18:51.16 | JeffM2501 | that will make it use a difrent set of URLs |
| 18:51.22 | JeffM2501 | you could add in the default one too |
| 18:51.27 | JeffM2501 | and have more then 1 |
| 18:51.29 | brad2901 | thanks! |
| 18:51.54 | JeffM2501 | hmm so it looks like call of honor wants me to unban him because he has a match today |
| 18:52.04 | orchid | heh |
| 18:52.06 | brad2901 | yeah |
| 18:52.07 | JeffM2501 | and if I do it by 5pm he'll forgive me for puting him on the list |
| 18:52.13 | brad2901 | lol |
| 18:52.19 | orchid | oh thats nice of him |
| 18:52.22 | JeffM2501 | are you in contact with him brad2901 ? |
| 18:52.24 | brad2901 | yes |
| 18:52.34 | jpa_ | hmm.. but do servers poll the list, or do they only load it on startup? |
| 18:52.50 | JeffM2501 | tell him that if he sends an e-mail asking to be unbaned, make sure repply address dosn't bounce. |
| 18:52.57 | brad2901 | hehe, ok |
| 18:53.09 | JeffM2501 | and I'd talk to him on AIM about it |
| 18:53.12 | JeffM2501 | but he blocked me |
| 18:53.17 | brad2901 | ok |
| 18:53.33 | Birdie | lol he wants to be unbanned but he blocked you |
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| 18:54.20 | JeffM2501 | and provided a bad email in his mail to me |
| 18:54.51 | brad2901 | going back to the master ban URL, does the URL have to be in qoutes? |
| 18:55.03 | JeffM2501 | I don't think so |
| 18:55.14 | jpa_ | JeffM2501: he is just afraid of you :) |
| 18:55.14 | JeffM2501 | you want to use 2 lists? |
| 18:55.30 | JeffM2501 | jpa_, I don't know what goes thru his head, but all his lies are about to catch up to him |
| 18:55.42 | brad2901 | ok |
| 18:56.01 | brad2901 | I don't want your master bans :) |
| 18:56.07 | brad2901 | I've created my own |
| 18:56.10 | jpa_ | tankitty: about what? :) |
| 18:56.10 | JeffM2501 | then just do -nomasterban |
| 18:56.16 | JeffM2501 | and put your bans in your banlist |
| 18:56.24 | brad2901 | hm |
| 18:56.31 | tankitty | jpa_: about howto |
| 18:56.31 | brad2901 | I forgot about that :/ |
| 18:56.34 | brad2901 | thanks :P |
| 18:56.41 | Birdie | jpa_: you dont want to know |
| 18:56.47 | tankitty | lol@birdie |
| 18:56.52 | brad2901 | btw, coh doesn't know how to unblock you on AIM |
| 18:56.59 | jpa_ | cool :) |
| 18:57.05 | JeffM2501 | well he'll have to figure it out |
| 18:57.19 | JeffM2501 | I can't help him with his own stupidity |
| 18:57.25 | jpa_ | tankitty: be sure to read tankitty's howto how to write good howtos before you write your howto |
| 18:57.28 | brad2901 | heh |
| 18:57.40 | tankitty | :p |
| 18:57.41 | JeffM2501 | he could just make a new name |
| 18:57.56 | brad2901 | yeah, i'll ask him |
| 18:57.59 | Birdie | jpa_: if you would only know her theory about howto;) |
| 18:58.18 | jpa_ | well, i do not (yet) :) |
| 18:58.20 | JeffM2501 | brad2901, so you don't want to ban the whoping 5 people we have on the master ban list? |
| 18:58.27 | JeffM2501 | what one of them wants to play with you? |
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| 18:59.08 | brad2901 | jeffm2501, it's really just testing.. |
| 18:59.50 | brad2901 | anyway, he says 'im 2 lazy to creat a new name' |
| 19:00.08 | JeffM2501 | then I guess tehre is nothing to do |
| 19:00.09 | jpa_ | brad2901: he is probably too lazy to play too :P |
| 19:00.16 | brad2901 | :) |
| 19:00.35 | jpa_ | or, he could just use cgi:irc and discuss it on irc? (if it is okay with jeff?) |
| 19:00.45 | brad2901 | he tried that before |
| 19:01.10 | brad2901 | I got him on irc, he left without saying anything |
| 19:01.22 | JeffM2501 | dudes not even on IM |
| 19:01.27 | JeffM2501 | he is just a lier |
| 19:01.29 | tankitty | i'm getting embarrassed by a guy |
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| 19:01.31 | tankitty | :p |
| 19:01.40 | Birdie | lol tankitty! |
| 19:01.41 | Tupone | tankitty, hi |
| 19:01.48 | tankitty | hey tupone |
| 19:01.56 | brad2901 | hm |
| 19:01.57 | brad2901 | m |
| 19:02.22 | tankitty | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:03.35 | jpa_ | getting banned in global ban list isn't that bad |
| 19:03.42 | jpa_ | server admins can omit it anyway |
| 19:04.01 | JeffM2501 | or do exceptions |
| 19:04.09 | JeffM2501 | and it's rather hard to get on the list as well |
| 19:05.12 | *** join/#bzflag tsukasa (~tsukasa@c-67-177-117-184.client.comcast.net) |
| 19:05.12 | jpa_ | tankitty: why use iptables when there exist nice, graphical firewall thingies? ,) |
| 19:05.23 | tankitty | graphicalk |
| 19:05.25 | tankitty | mmm |
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| 19:05.40 | *** join/#bzflag bz2303 (~45eb8657@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 19:05.50 | brad2901 | JeffM2501, he has just told me he unblocked you, try agin |
| 19:05.52 | brad2901 | again* |
| 19:05.57 | bz2303 | hello are there any board admins here? |
| 19:06.04 | *** join/#bzflag crypt0 (~crypt0@d233-64-29-238.clv.wideopenwest.com) |
| 19:06.06 | JeffM2501 | it's not me who trys |
| 19:06.11 | JeffM2501 | HE sends me a message |
| 19:06.18 | crypt0 | hi |
| 19:06.41 | brad2901 | ok.. |
| 19:06.54 | crypt0 | are there any bzflag slackware 2.0.2 packages anywhere? |
| 19:07.00 | bz2303 | hello are there any board admins here? |
| 19:07.09 | JeffM2501 | slackware problby not yet |
| 19:07.11 | crypt0 | err bzflag 2.0.2 slackware packages :P |
| 19:07.12 | JeffM2501 | board admins, hes |
| 19:07.13 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 19:07.18 | crypt0 | ok |
| 19:07.20 | crypt0 | thanks |
| 19:07.25 | bz2303 | Jeff are you one? |
| 19:07.28 | JeffM2501 | I am |
| 19:08.19 | tsukasa | I have working sound in xorg, but game says alsa doesn't find any cards....try'd the pcm downmix thing in asound.conf. any idea's? (usb sound) |
| 19:09.55 | Tupone | tsukasa, what doea the initial screenshot about sound says? alsa ? |
| 19:10.48 | *** join/#bzflag Yoda (~43a4a34e@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 19:11.00 | tsukasa | lemme run and kill it again, so I'm not paraphrasing |
| 19:11.28 | Tupone | should say "audio driver : xxxx" |
| 19:11.51 | tsukasa | Couldn't open audio: No available audio device |
| 19:12.11 | Tupone | :( what version of bzflag ? |
| 19:12.21 | tsukasa | newest, compiled the source |
| 19:12.23 | *** join/#bzflag Zoyo (cs@p54860072.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:12.24 | Yoda | brad you here |
| 19:12.25 | tsukasa | had same prob with rpm |
| 19:12.28 | Zoyo | hi |
| 19:12.30 | Tupone | it should say something |
| 19:12.39 | Tupone | like alsa |
| 19:12.45 | Tupone | or esd |
| 19:12.46 | Yoda | BRAD ARE YOU HERE? |
| 19:12.48 | Tupone | or arts |
| 19:12.52 | Tupone | or dsp |
| 19:13.04 | tsukasa | ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:867(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave |
| 19:13.05 | jpa_ | Yoda: still crying? |
| 19:13.12 | Yoda | no |
| 19:13.36 | tsukasa | maybe I should remove that asound.conf |
| 19:13.41 | Yoda | i'm waiting for brad to answer |
| 19:14.16 | brlcad | Yoda: so wait and stop yellling :P |
| 19:14.24 | Yoda | How do you get a server on the list? |
| 19:14.27 | Tupone | tsukasa, is that the SDL version? |
| 19:14.52 | brlcad | ciao tupone |
| 19:15.03 | Tupone | brlcad, hola :) |
| 19:15.10 | jpa_ | Yoda: brad2901 is too busy to spend time answering to you :P |
| 19:15.11 | tsukasa | bzflag-2.0.2.20050318.tar.bz2 |
| 19:15.31 | Yoda | How do you get a server on the list? |
| 19:15.39 | brlcad | you run a public server |
| 19:15.46 | Yoda | ni'm going to |
| 19:15.50 | tankitty | pubic server? |
| 19:16.04 | Yoda | i'm going to,but i dont know how to put it in the Server list |
| 19:16.06 | Tupone | when you startup, cann you write here the exact version number you got? like : 2.0.2.2005xxxxx |
| 19:16.15 | jpa_ | Yoda: it will go by it self |
| 19:16.20 | brlcad | Yoda: you don't, the server does it automatically if it's public |
| 19:16.27 | Yoda | i have version 2.0.2 |
| 19:16.58 | Yoda | ? |
| 19:17.21 | tsukasa | without the asound.conf (found that on the net for usb fix, didn't help) it only says couldn't open audio: no available device |
| 19:17.38 | tsukasa | SDL |
| 19:17.41 | brlcad | your nickname isn't very appropriate then, is it? |
| 19:17.57 | Yoda | I made the server with BZEdit,configured it,what do i do now |
| 19:18.07 | jpa_ | argh :D |
| 19:18.10 | Tupone | Should says something like Audio driver: alsa . Does i tsay so ? |
| 19:18.18 | tsukasa | nope |
| 19:18.20 | jpa_ | can someone paste the link to wiki? |
| 19:18.28 | brlcad | Yoda: you unplug your computer and step back? :) |
| 19:18.29 | Yoda | brad2901 told me to come here to ask how to put my server on the list |
| 19:18.43 | Yoda | why? |
| 19:18.51 | brlcad | that'll get it on the list |
| 19:19.07 | Aribeth | and wait for the kaboom :) |
| 19:19.18 | Yoda | Unplugging and stepping back will put it on thelist? |
| 19:19.32 | brlcad | yup |
| 19:19.34 | jpa_ | yup |
| 19:19.45 | jpa_ | you can't have it running if you have your computer off |
| 19:19.59 | Aribeth | :D |
| 19:20.01 | Yoda | Do i have to unplug it,cant i restart it |
| 19:20.03 | jpa_ | because the map can't be modified when it is running, and that is only way to ensure that it won't |
| 19:20.07 | Yoda | ni dont believe you guys |
| 19:20.10 | brlcad | Yoda: have to unplug |
| 19:20.20 | Yoda | cant i restart |
| 19:20.24 | brlcad | Yoda: have to unplug |
| 19:20.40 | jpa_ | humm.. |
| 19:20.40 | Yoda | do i have to unplug?if i do i lose all my memory |
| 19:20.53 | jpa_ | i think it is enough to just have it turned off, isn't it? |
| 19:20.53 | brlcad | Yoda: have to unplug |
| 19:21.09 | orchid | huh? |
| 19:21.12 | jpa_ | but, the server will go away from the list if you turn your computer on |
| 19:21.37 | Yoda | heres the story |
| 19:21.46 | Yoda | I made my map with bzedit |
| 19:22.16 | jpa_ | Yoda: ok, now serious :P |
| 19:22.23 | brlcad | Yoda: read: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915& |
| 19:22.27 | jpa_ | Yoda: what kind of a internet connection do you have? |
| 19:22.31 | Yoda | Cable |
| 19:22.39 | jpa_ | how fast? |
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| 19:22.48 | Yoda | really fast |
| 19:22.59 | tsukasa | your upload, not download |
| 19:23.10 | Yoda | I've read that post i dont get it |
| 19:23.23 | brlcad | then you shouldn't be running a server |
| 19:23.33 | Yoda | ni want to run a server! |
| 19:23.43 | brlcad | there are implications with running a server |
| 19:23.51 | brlcad | if you can't understand them, that's a big problem |
| 19:24.04 | jpa_ | yup |
| 19:24.12 | brlcad | read it again |
| 19:24.15 | Yoda | well i get it |
| 19:24.17 | tsukasa | aww, tupone left :( |
| 19:24.19 | *** join/#bzflag GuessWho (~45eb8657@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 19:24.24 | jpa_ | and probably your cable modem is not even fast enough to run a server with more than about 4 players |
| 19:24.24 | tankitty | aww |
| 19:24.33 | tankitty | mmm |
| 19:24.34 | Yoda | i did what it said,but nothing happenend |
| 19:24.42 | brlcad | yoda, read it slowly, and ask questions as they come up that are more specifiic |
| 19:24.49 | Yoda | I DID! |
| 19:24.55 | tankitty | Yoda: do you mind if I nmap you? |
| 19:25.08 | tankitty | :p |
| 19:25.11 | Yoda | what is that? |
| 19:25.16 | tankitty | portscan |
| 19:25.21 | brlcad | Yoda: not if your answer to how fast your cable line is "really fast" you didn't |
| 19:25.24 | jpa_ | tankitty: you can't, he is through webchat |
| 19:25.28 | tankitty | ahh |
| 19:25.33 | tankitty | what's your ip yoda ? |
| 19:25.44 | Yoda | i cant remember |
| 19:25.50 | brlcad | yay, Ma Ya Hi on the radio again |
| 19:25.53 | jpa_ | www.whatismyip.com |
| 19:25.58 | Yoda | i have Medium Term Memory Loss |
| 19:26.31 | Yoda | my ip is 67.164.163.78 |
| 19:26.39 | tsukasa | what file does alsa put it's device config in? |
| 19:26.46 | Yoda | ? |
| 19:27.33 | jpa_ | Yoda: humm.. i can't get even ping through to that address |
| 19:27.34 | brlcad | oh cool, dutchrai's got some cool stuff up on http://shellshock.bzflag.bz |
| 19:27.42 | jpa_ | your isp probably blocks servers |
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| 19:28.32 | Yoda | Cant you tell me? |
| 19:28.48 | Yoda | nm |
| 19:28.52 | JeffM2501 | we can't tell you things about your own ISP |
| 19:29.03 | JeffM2501 | if you wish to run a server it's best you know something about computer networking |
| 19:29.10 | Aribeth | it wont ping at all |
| 19:29.28 | jpa_ | :D |
| 19:29.44 | brlcad | almost got him to pull the plug |
| 19:29.50 | brlcad | ~slap jpa_ |
| 19:29.52 | ibot | ACTION slaps jpa_, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 19:29.52 | Aribeth | :D |
| 19:29.54 | tankitty | lol |
| 19:30.13 | jpa_ | i would have been nice and provided him with shell account but he didn't even know what ssh was :( |
| 19:30.29 | jpa_ | brlcad: sorry :/ |
| 19:30.55 | brlcad | he didn't read the server startup write up .. he jumped to the steps at the bottom and is wondering what to do next |
| 19:30.58 | brlcad | selective reading |
| 19:30.58 | brad2901 | yay, I can talk again now that he's gone |
| 19:31.08 | brlcad | ~whaleslap brad2901 |
| 19:31.11 | ibot | ACTION slaps brad2901 upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 19:31.13 | brad2901 | pff |
| 19:31.16 | jpa_ | but you have to admit, "< jpa_> but, the server will go away from the list if you turn your computer on" was quite clever |
| 19:32.12 | Aribeth | i was waitng for him to pull the plug |
| 19:32.37 | jpa_ | http://warri1.dyndns.org/ping/traffic-daily.png some nmapping in process :) |
| 19:32.53 | jpa_ | All 1663 scanned ports on c-67-164-163-78.client.comcast.net (67.164.163.78) are: filtered |
| 19:40.00 | Zoyo | how can I change the desktop while running bf under X11/Windowmaker? I start it with -window. With version 1.* I could change the desktop with alt-<nr> but version 2.* blocks this. |
| 19:40.51 | tankitty | Zoyo: download 2.0.0 |
| 19:40.53 | tankitty | Zoyo: download 2.0.2 |
| 19:41.03 | Zoyo | ahh, ok. thx |
| 19:41.17 | tsukasa | anyone know the conf file for alsa so I can manually setup my card? something must be off slightly |
| 19:41.22 | tankitty | i think its also a setting in ~/.bzf/config.cfg.linux |
| 19:41.28 | *** join/#bzflag MeBigFatGuy (dave@balt-209-150-117-56.dynamic-dial.qis.net) |
| 19:42.32 | MeBigFatGuy | yo |
| 19:45.45 | MeBigFatGuy | talk to the wife |
| 19:45.51 | Birdie | lol tankitty |
| 19:46.02 | tsukasa | HisBigFatGirl? |
| 19:46.03 | tsukasa | hehe |
| 19:46.07 | fiberchunks | morning |
| 19:46.16 | fiberchunks | er... afternoon :) |
| 19:46.18 | brlcad | howdy fiberchunks! |
| 19:46.26 | brlcad | sup |
| 19:46.32 | jpa_ | fiberchunks: is it sunday or monday? |
| 19:46.43 | fiberchunks | nothin, trying to wade through all this foolishness for a new PC. |
| 19:46.46 | JeffM2501 | sunday |
| 19:46.47 | fiberchunks | Sunday |
| 19:46.56 | jpa_ | evil :/ |
| 19:47.01 | fiberchunks | indeed |
| 19:47.01 | MeBigFatGuy | spring |
| 19:47.04 | jpa_ | only 2 hours of sunday left for me :( |
| 19:47.05 | tankitty | fiberchunks: new pc? |
| 19:47.49 | fiberchunks | yah, I know I want an AMD 64 machine, but I'm debating whether to go dual (although at this time, isn't doesn't look like there's anything in the nForce4 SLI family with dual CPU) |
| 19:48.39 | fiberchunks | and I would really like to get an nForce4 SLI board. Any opinions on whether ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, etc is better than the rest? |
| 19:49.02 | tankitty | mmm |
| 19:49.55 | fiberchunks | yah, neither was I aware about the new advances lately, until I spent about 10 hrs yesterday gathering info and researching. |
| 19:50.08 | tsukasa | I've had good luck with gigabyte, and some of the old asus kt7raids seemed buggy, but dunno bout the new stuff |
| 19:50.13 | orchid | tsukasa: what OS? |
| 19:50.25 | tsukasa | linux |
| 19:50.53 | orchid | tsukasa: yes, but you have alsa problem no? |
| 19:51.00 | tsukasa | yeah, just in bzflag |
| 19:51.09 | orchid | what linux? |
| 19:51.13 | tsukasa | fedora core 2 |
| 19:51.22 | orchid | oh only in bz? |
| 19:51.36 | tsukasa | yeah, just bz, ut and kde have no probs |
| 19:51.38 | fiberchunks | I usually get a whole new PC about every 4 years (and second-hand the 4 year old PC) -- so I need something that's relatively future-proof / upgradeable. |
| 19:51.59 | orchid | hello 'chunks |
| 19:51.59 | jpa_ | it might be that kde arts is using the soundcard and bzflag can't |
| 19:52.13 | fiberchunks | the Gigabyte board with SLI is nice, but the RAM slots are awfully close together (as opposed to the ASUS) |
| 19:52.18 | fiberchunks | 'lo orchid :) |
| 19:52.19 | tsukasa | I'll check, but you'd think that'd block ut |
| 19:52.20 | jpa_ | with artscontrol you can see whether it is using it or not |
| 19:53.08 | tsukasa | artscontrol wasn't running |
| 19:55.43 | tsukasa | mplayer, ut, and chromium all have sound, but don't know if they are trying oss or alsa |
| 19:55.48 | tsukasa | not sure how to check |
| 19:56.12 | tsukasa | using 2.6.11.5 kernel, so it's alsa with oss compat on |
| 19:57.34 | tsukasa | no soundservers running in kde |
| 19:57.59 | brlcad | fiberchunks: smp? :) |
| 19:58.06 | tankitty | ahh |
| 19:58.11 | tsukasa | smp is good, had it for 3 years |
| 19:58.14 | fiberchunks | would prefer it for CAD/CAM work |
| 19:58.22 | tankitty | I've noticed with an smp enabled suse kernel, got some problems |
| 19:58.24 | fiberchunks | but a single chip system would be fine as well |
| 19:58.39 | fiberchunks | although, not as upgradable. |
| 19:58.48 | brlcad | I'll never go back to a single cpu system unless it's a laptop |
| 19:59.15 | fiberchunks | alot of my work these days is CAD/CAM, so I'm not really building a gaming PC, but a rock-solid and heavy performance workstation. |
| 19:59.54 | brlcad | yeah, I wouldn't get smp if I was hard into gaming -- most don't take advantage |
| 20:00.03 | brlcad | heavy performance ;) |
| 20:00.26 | tsukasa | yeah they don't at all, if they'd at least make the sound or base loop 1 proc and the vid another it'd be nice |
| 20:00.56 | Zoyo | tankitty: I just compiled 2.0.2 but the desktop switching doesn't work |
| 20:00.57 | tsukasa | for rendering drafts of large buildings and such |
| 20:01.20 | brlcad | fiberchunks: your cad system of choice? |
| 20:01.23 | tankitty | mmm |
| 20:01.25 | fiberchunks | Solidworks |
| 20:01.31 | tankitty | it works here:( |
| 20:01.41 | tankitty | at least in -window mode |
| 20:01.43 | tankitty | alt-tab |
| 20:02.04 | Zoyo | tankitty: what windowmanager? |
| 20:02.10 | fiberchunks | iirc, sworks is going to take advantage of SLI enabled systems (in the near future), which is one of the reasons |
| 20:02.34 | tankitty | kde |
| 20:02.47 | jpa_ | use f4 |
| 20:02.49 | Chestal | benchmarks I've seen for SLI (with gamign video cards) were not very impressive |
| 20:02.53 | jpa_ | it will minimize bzzflag |
| 20:03.21 | Zoyo | tankitty: ok, i will test some others. thx |
| 20:03.40 | jpa_ | fiberchunks: you should have answered brlcad, that would have made brlcad happy |
| 20:03.53 | fiberchunks | what? I did |
| 20:04.04 | tsukasa | yeah solidworks |
| 20:04.10 | brlcad | huh? |
| 20:04.13 | fiberchunks | brlcad is an unscrupulous weasel :) |
| 20:04.16 | brlcad | oh |
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| 20:04.20 | brlcad | i think he means brl-cad |
| 20:04.35 | fiberchunks | ah, indeed |
| 20:04.43 | tsukasa | hehe |
| 20:04.48 | brlcad | nah, that wouldn't have made me happy :) |
| 20:04.54 | fiberchunks | there should be a capital in there or two, you know :) |
| 20:05.05 | fiberchunks | it is, afterall, a military acronym |
| 20:05.14 | brlcad | you can do a lot when you charge that much for the software ;) |
| 20:05.19 | fiberchunks | heh |
| 20:05.20 | brlcad | their UI is much more polished |
| 20:05.39 | brlcad | not to mention other capabilities |
| 20:05.39 | jpa_ | it could be named BrLcAD :) |
| 20:05.52 | brlcad | BLAD for short? |
| 20:06.32 | brlcad | or just BAD? :) |
| 20:06.59 | *** part/#bzflag Zoyo (cs@p54860072.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:07.23 | fiberchunks | that would make military sense |
| 20:07.25 | jpa_ | it could be just brlCAD, it is the only real cad program anyway |
| 20:07.40 | jpa_ | i like BRAD :) |
| 20:07.46 | jpa_ | it reminds from brad2901 |
| 20:07.54 | brlcad | jpa_ that's your personal preference ;) |
| 20:08.47 | tankitty | bad |
| 20:09.09 | tankitty | you forgot BAD, brlcad |
| 20:09.19 | jpa_ | no he did not |
| 20:09.23 | jpa_ | 22:06:32 <@brlcad> or just BAD? :) |
| 20:09.24 | tankitty | oh |
| 20:09.27 | JeffM2501 | well that was in informational chat with call of honor |
| 20:10.09 | brlcad | actually one of the new interfaces under development yet to be named is being considered.. BRL-CAD _Something_ |
| 20:10.28 | brlcad | only problem is that something starts with an S, so the shorthand could be contrued as BS :) |
| 20:10.45 | jpa_ | tankitty: you mean, selective reading? :) |
| 20:11.03 | brlcad | she's using the word filter |
| 20:11.25 | tankitty | jpa_: yeah |
| 20:11.33 | brlcad | tankitty: &@# ^(& ^&@# @ !((% #*%# )!#& %&*#@ |
| 20:11.52 | tankitty | jpa_: predefined selective filtering |
| 20:12.35 | brlcad | if he did, it probably wasn't worth reading |
| 20:12.57 | tankitty | nope |
| 20:13.20 | jpa_ | i thought that tankitty has had enough of those over-sexual teenagers |
| 20:13.29 | tankitty | yeah |
| 20:13.32 | tankitty | sure! |
| 20:13.48 | Birdie | lol |
| 20:13.51 | Birdie | ;) |
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| 20:14.20 | tankitty | Birdie: something you wish to say? |
| 20:15.07 | Birdie | lol |
| 20:15.09 | Birdie | no |
| 20:15.50 | jpa_ | she doesn't do much else than just laughs out loud |
| 20:16.09 | Birdie | you would be surprised |
| 20:17.37 | JeffM2501 | just testing :) |
| 20:17.54 | jpa_ | hmm.. |
| 20:18.01 | jpa_ | i have forgotten the word you used |
| 20:18.15 | jpa_ | pigetry was it? |
| 20:18.25 | orchid | bigotry |
| 20:18.33 | JeffM2501 | but pigetry works too |
| 20:18.35 | JeffM2501 | amazingly |
| 20:18.42 | JeffM2501 | cool you've invented a new word |
| 20:18.49 | jpa_ | ~dict pigetry |
| 20:19.00 | jpa_ | ~spell pigetry |
| 20:19.02 | JeffM2501 | it's new, it's not in there yet :) |
| 20:19.13 | jpa_ | yup, it is new :D |
| 20:19.13 | brlcad | ~dict bigotry |
| 20:19.28 | brlcad | ehh |
| 20:19.34 | brlcad | ~more |
| 20:19.35 | ibot | methinks more is Displays the contents of the named files, one screenful at a time. Syntax: more (file1) (file2) ...(fileN). Where file1 through fileN are the files to display. Example: more papers/history-final displays the file papers/history-final. |
| 20:19.42 | brlcad | bah |
| 20:20.45 | jpa_ | ibot: dict pigetry is <reply> Dictionary 'pigetry': To claim that a 'she' can't be a better coder than the one claiming that. ; Knowing the truth behind female coders. |
| 20:20.54 | jpa_ | :( |
| 20:21.10 | JeffM2501 | you can't set a dict |
| 20:21.16 | jpa_ | yup :( |
| 20:21.22 | jpa_ | too bad |
| 20:21.31 | JeffM2501 | it comes from a website |
| 20:21.56 | jpa_ | i know, but one can override for example slap or gender |
| 20:22.04 | jpa_ | since they are factoids, i know that too |
| 20:22.06 | JeffM2501 | not a dict |
| 20:22.16 | JeffM2501 | dict is a function |
| 20:22.28 | brlcad | the word bigotry makes me think of the marx brothers.. :) |
| 20:22.28 | jpa_ | hey, i just tried if i could! |
| 20:22.41 | brlcad | Groucho: "Well whadaya say girls? Are we all gonna get married?" |
| 20:22.41 | brlcad | Women: "All of us? But that's bigamy!" |
| 20:22.41 | brlcad | Groucho: "Yes and it's big of me too. It'll be big of us!" |
| 20:23.18 | fiberchunks | :D |
| 20:23.56 | brlcad | i think their silver edition is out on dvd now |
| 20:24.00 | brlcad | I should get it |
| 20:24.52 | brlcad | hehe, http://www.barbneal.com/wav/marxbros/groucho/grouch14.wav |
| 20:25.29 | fiberchunks | damn, do the WD Raptors come any bigger than 74GB? |
| 20:25.31 | orchid | what time is it in Germany? |
| 20:26.02 | jpa_ | hmm, probably around 21:27 |
| 20:26.11 | jpa_ | because it is 22:27 in finland |
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| 20:27.41 | tankitty | yes |
| 20:27.44 | tankitty | same as here |
| 20:27.47 | tankitty | 21:27 |
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| 20:27.54 | tankitty | according to ntp1.belbone.be |
| 20:29.02 | jpa_ | oh, tankitty lives so close? :P |
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| 20:30.48 | orchid | hi mmu_man |
| 20:32.06 | tsukasa | okay update, I have oss sound, but no alsa, that's kinda odd when the kernel supplies alsa and uses oss compat off of it |
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| 20:32.20 | tsukasa | xmms needs the oss plugin to play that link, alsa says no card |
| 20:32.49 | jpa_ | i think bzflag settings has audio system selection thingie |
| 20:32.58 | tsukasa | kewl, where? |
| 20:33.09 | jpa_ | somewhere |
| 20:33.12 | tsukasa | lol |
| 20:33.14 | jpa_ | never seen it though |
| 20:33.24 | jpa_ | but there have been rumours about it |
| 20:33.25 | mmu_man | plop |
| 20:33.56 | tsukasa | please leave or play? |
| 20:34.36 | tankitty | bonjour, mmu_man |
| 20:36.01 | jpa_ | ~gender Birdie |
| 20:36.03 | ibot | Birdie is male |
| 20:36.08 | Birdie | yay! |
| 20:36.09 | jpa_ | hmph :( |
| 20:36.14 | Birdie | love you ibot |
| 20:36.17 | tankitty | ~gender Birdie |
| 20:36.20 | ibot | Birdie is female |
| 20:36.22 | Birdie | tsss |
| 20:36.25 | Birdie | :( |
| 20:37.07 | Tupone | tsukasa: bzflag should say these things in sequence, each for line: BZFlag version, Copyright, Author, Maintainer, GL ident, Audio driver, Message of the day. What you miss of these or what message is between |
| 20:37.30 | tankitty | wb Tupone |
| 20:37.38 | Tupone | :* |
| 20:38.07 | jpa_ | ~genber tankitty |
| 20:38.08 | ibot | couldn't determine - too sharp paws |
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| 20:38.26 | tsukasa | lemme run it and tell ya |
| 20:39.14 | tsukasa | whoa, somethings changed |
| 20:39.19 | tsukasa | now it found sound, BADLY |
| 20:39.28 | tsukasa | musta been the new asoundrc I tried |
| 20:39.32 | tsukasa | artsd? |
| 20:39.50 | tsukasa | that's the driver it was using |
| 20:39.54 | Tupone | go into option-> Sound _> driver |
| 20:40.23 | tsukasa | no driver or device in there, just remote on and sound all the way up |
| 20:40.48 | tankitty | jpa_: genber? |
| 20:40.49 | Tupone | write alsa where driver is |
| 20:41.01 | tsukasa | can't try oss? alsa always says no card |
| 20:41.03 | Tupone | it should be empty by default |
| 20:41.06 | Birdie | ~gender tankitty |
| 20:41.08 | ibot | tankitty is hermaphroditic |
| 20:41.15 | jpa_ | tankitty: :P |
| 20:41.16 | Tupone | write dsp |
| 20:41.19 | Birdie | what a word |
| 20:41.29 | tankitty | aww |
| 20:41.29 | Tupone | then return |
| 20:41.36 | Tupone | and then restart bzflag |
| 20:41.41 | tsukasa | alas then dsp then restart |
| 20:41.47 | Birdie | lol |
| 20:41.48 | brlcad | ~gender brlcad |
| 20:41.50 | ibot | brlcad is cowboyneal |
| 20:41.55 | brlcad | yay |
| 20:41.58 | Birdie | lucker:) |
| 20:42.03 | jpa_ | ~gender jpa_ |
| 20:42.05 | ibot | jpa_ is male |
| 20:42.05 | Tupone | tsukasa: you don't want alsa |
| 20:42.09 | Tupone | or you want |
| 20:42.19 | jpa_ | tankitty: why? :( |
| 20:42.32 | tankitty | you have other work to do ! |
| 20:42.42 | brlcad | mm.. so true |
| 20:42.43 | jpa_ | i have to sleep |
| 20:42.48 | tsukasa | audio not available |
| 20:42.54 | tsukasa | alsa doesn't work on anything |
| 20:43.02 | tsukasa | doesn't find my card |
| 20:43.04 | Tupone | what have you written: alsa or dsp ? |
| 20:43.08 | jpa_ | and that other work is due to on wednesday - i do not have to start yet |
| 20:43.16 | tsukasa | 2nd item alsa, 3rd /dev/dsp |
| 20:43.39 | Tupone | tsukasa: have you alsa? |
| 20:43.46 | Tupone | or you don't know? |
| 20:43.47 | tsukasa | yeah it's built into the kernel |
| 20:43.55 | tsukasa | I have alsa yes |
| 20:44.05 | Tupone | and you're able to play with I guess |
| 20:44.23 | Tupone | so just to driver write alsa and return |
| 20:44.38 | Tupone | to device let it empty and return |
| 20:44.43 | Tupone | close bzflag |
| 20:44.46 | brlcad | hrm. eva mendes is too distracting as a background |
| 20:44.49 | Tupone | stop artsd |
| 20:44.50 | tsukasa | k, trying |
| 20:44.55 | Tupone | and the start bzflag |
| 20:45.40 | Tupone | to stop artsd you should probably stop kde from using the sound daemon |
| 20:45.56 | tsukasa | I turned it off, but I think it's still running |
| 20:45.59 | tsukasa | how do you find the pid? |
| 20:46.04 | tankitty | ps aux |
| 20:46.05 | Tupone | killall artsd |
| 20:46.36 | Tupone | or like the mighty tankity said, ps aux | grep artsf |
| 20:46.43 | Tupone | artsd :) |
| 20:47.06 | tsukasa | k, it's killed |
| 20:47.15 | Tupone | then start bzflag |
| 20:47.30 | tsukasa | driver alsa, device blank, didn't work |
| 20:47.47 | tsukasa | will oss work? |
| 20:48.01 | Tupone | subs alsa with dsp |
| 20:48.21 | Tupone | press enter to save the driver selection |
| 20:48.23 | Tupone | close bzflag |
| 20:48.28 | Tupone | restart bzflag |
| 20:48.37 | tsukasa | k |
| 20:48.52 | Tupone | watch the Audio Driver printout at startup |
| 20:50.35 | tsukasa | couldn't open audio: no available device |
| 20:50.47 | tsukasa | should we take this private and stop spammin the chan? hehe |
| 20:51.25 | Tupone | hehe, to debug that we could take just chatting is enough. Need shell access :( |
| 20:51.29 | Tupone | and time |
| 20:52.03 | tsukasa | if I knew how to make alsa find my card, that'd fix alot of stuff |
| 20:52.04 | tsukasa | hehe |
| 20:53.04 | tsukasa | no distro has found it so far, tried debian-sarge, new knoppix, fedora 3 (got rid of that, weird ide driver was messing it up) |
| 20:53.10 | tsukasa | hate to try linspire hehe |
| 20:53.21 | tsukasa | or lindows, whatever it's called |
| 20:53.23 | Tupone | http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml |
| 20:54.34 | tsukasa | emerge :( |
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| 20:56.20 | Tupone | tsukasa: just read it. It apply to another distro, but you may find it useful |
| 20:57.03 | tsukasa | I've already had the utils installed, but not finding any of the mentioned conf files.... |
| 20:57.06 | tsukasa | still looking |
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| 21:16.54 | tsukasa | anyone know where modules.conf would be on fedora? |
| 21:19.13 | orchid | in /etc maybe? |
| 21:19.35 | orchid | do: locate modules.conf |
| 21:20.30 | tsukasa | there isn't a modules.conf |
| 21:20.49 | tsukasa | found /usr/share/alsa/alsa.conf |
| 21:21.00 | tsukasa | but it's written like the asound file with alot more in it |
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| 21:23.41 | Mirella | hello |
| 21:24.19 | tsukasa | hello |
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| 21:31.07 | trepan | but is that a candy cane? |
| 21:31.20 | Aribeth | oh oh |
| 21:31.22 | brlcad | eek |
| 21:32.06 | Aribeth | hi trepan |
| 21:32.29 | trepan | 'lo ari |
| 21:34.57 | orchid | ~lart brlcad |
| 21:38.07 | brlcad | mm.. i was thirsty .. thanks |
| 21:39.10 | Aribeth | with a photon blaster |
| 21:41.03 | bzflagwiz | eeoc blasts Aribeth's boss with a bunch of red tape and strangles him with it |
| 21:41.22 | Aribeth | lol |
| 22:07.37 | cosmos | hrm |
| 22:09.56 | cosmos | Sun Mar 20 09:01:37 2005 |
| 22:09.56 | cosmos | Reported by suresox: hey bitchez u think u can silence us?? no one fuckz with our posse and now u server is in real trouble BIYATCH!! |
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| 22:10.26 | cosmos | ~/clear |
| 22:10.37 | cosmos | sigh |
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| 22:23.37 | cosmos | http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/050320/ids_photos_en/r2711818951.jpg&e=11 |
| 22:23.46 | cosmos | heh, what does that really look like... |
| 22:51.39 | tsukasa | anyone have xterasys usb 6 ch sound? |
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| 22:59.21 | uso | tsukasa: are you using kernel 2.6? |
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| 23:06.02 | uso | tsukasa: modutils on 2.6 do not have a modules.conf anymore, at least here on debian, files are now in /etc/modprobe.d |
| 23:09.23 | cosmos | <deviant-> we use redhat linux becuz is most hacker proof. you cant break into linux like windows so linux is hacker proof! |
| 23:10.54 | uso | lol |
| 23:11.19 | tsukasa | no modprobe.d |
| 23:11.24 | cosmos | he asked if solaris was some OEM windows for dell pcs |
| 23:11.43 | uso | rotfl |
| 23:12.35 | Aribeth | now that is funny! |
| 23:13.23 | uso | tsukasa: sorry, don't know how this distries do all their own things theses days |
| 23:13.41 | tsukasa | I found where to put the alias's in |
| 23:13.44 | tsukasa | but they were already there |
| 23:13.52 | tsukasa | alsa just doesn't find the usb card |
| 23:14.08 | tsukasa | think it needs a driver or something |
| 23:16.00 | uso | anybody any issues with 2.6.11.5? |
| 23:16.24 | tsukasa | it didn't work with 2.6.5 either |
| 23:16.29 | tsukasa | I updated just to try |
| 23:17.26 | uso | tsukasa: was not related to sound problem, have problems with ATI drivers here |
| 23:19.03 | tsukasa | ahh, I've got around 10 nvidia cards |
| 23:19.07 | tsukasa | all work great |
| 23:19.17 | tsukasa | got some 3dfx cards too |
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| 23:23.12 | rabbit25 | hi |
| 23:24.18 | tsukasa | hello |
| 23:25.53 | rabbit25 | ow are you? |
| 23:25.56 | rabbit25 | *How |
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