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| 00:00.32 | cosmos | heh |
| 00:01.10 | cosmos | well they also use the bible to "prove" the rapture and progressive doctrines like "its ok to kill homosexuals and abortion doctors" |
| 00:02.27 | sussudio | when you try to prove that christianity is a farce by using the bible, they go inquisition on you. |
| 00:03.59 | cosmos | mention the fact that it was cannonized 400 years after the death of christ and that revelation barely made it in... |
| 00:04.04 | Chestal | Noone expects the Spanish inquisition! |
| 00:04.53 | sussudio | i saw a tv program that speculated that jesus was actually an incarnation of buddha |
| 00:04.59 | sussudio | that'll screw with their minds. |
| 00:05.26 | sussudio | well, what's left of it, anyway |
| 00:05.43 | cosmos | just tell em jesus was black |
| 00:05.55 | sussudio | well, yes. |
| 00:06.21 | sussudio | and he didn't actually die on the cross |
| 00:06.31 | sussudio | so there goes christianity. |
| 00:07.59 | bestbuddyever | 1) Jesus wasn't black he was a jew 2) bzflag? |
| 00:08.23 | sussudio | 3) easterbunnies |
| 00:09.51 | cosmos | black, jew, whats the difference ? :) he was raised in the middle east certainly he had a great tan |
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| 00:23.21 | sgk284 | did the irc logs move? |
| 00:23.38 | sgk284 | http://ibot.rikers.org/bzflag/20050322.html.gz doesnt seem to work :/ |
| 00:24.10 | brad2901 | http://ibot.rikers.org/#bzflag/20050322.html.gz |
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| 00:35.20 | sgk284 | thank you:) |
| 00:37.32 | wegstar | :) |
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| 00:46.23 | fant | hello |
| 00:46.28 | sgk284 | SportChick, ping |
| 00:47.08 | sgk284 | SportChick, whitelist his callsign and he should be fine |
| 00:48.23 | cosmos | how do you whitelist anyhow |
| 00:48.54 | sgk284 | i'll look at the code, but iirc ip antiban perms worked first, and I had actually overlooked hostbans, then Nidhoggr reported that and I tok care of both |
| 00:49.03 | sgk284 | cosmos, give them antiban perms |
| 00:49.17 | sgk284 | s/tok/took |
| 00:49.32 | sgk284 | i'll check the code out again, maybe something was accidentally changed :/ |
| 00:50.07 | cosmos | ANTIBAN to their callsign? |
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| 00:50.58 | sgk284 | cosmos, you know how to give users permissions right? |
| 00:51.19 | cosmos | groups yes, i dont recall user perms |
| 00:51.33 | sgk284 | just make a group like WHITELIST and add antiban perms to it |
| 00:51.43 | sgk284 | then make that user a group member |
| 00:51.57 | sgk284 | individual user perms i dont believe exist |
| 00:52.32 | cosmos | so id have to setup a bzbb group for hepcat.whitelist and add members there |
| 00:52.50 | sgk284 | yea, just do it however you currently do it |
| 00:52.57 | sgk284 | most use globabl auth |
| 00:53.06 | cosmos | yeah we do on hepcat |
| 00:53.10 | sgk284 | k |
| 00:53.10 | cosmos | just dont have a whitelist group |
| 00:53.38 | sgk284 | yea make a whitelist group then you can ban blocks of ip's if you need while only allowing certain callsigns through |
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| 00:55.22 | sgk284 | it may have been an error on my part, i'm gonna check it out when i get home |
| 00:57.20 | spldart | Ah geez.... I'm feeling sorry for JeffM again..... IF I KILL U U R SUPA UGLY is being a enscient boor. |
| 00:57.48 | spldart | scratch taht nescient |
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| 00:58.43 | spldart | A nescient boor. |
| 00:58.50 | wegstar | ? |
| 00:58.55 | sgk284 | ~spell nescient |
| 00:59.31 | spldart | Nescient: lack of knowledge or awareness |
| 00:59.37 | cosmos | heh that guy is nuts |
| 01:00.02 | spldart | ~dict nescient |
| 01:02.14 | cosmos | http://tinyurl.com/7y3p3 |
| 01:02.16 | cosmos | hahaha |
| 01:03.19 | spldart | GET 'EM EASTER BUNNNY! |
| 01:03.24 | wegstar | heh |
| 01:04.15 | cosmos | thats almost as funny as the preacher who held a mall santa at gunpoint for blasphemy last christmas |
| 01:04.20 | spldart | D@#M.... Multiple trollls on bzforum :( |
| 01:04.54 | cosmos | ? |
| 01:09.30 | spldart | BTW. Slax 4.2.0. is nice but a little to limited. Not enough support for systems outside the norm. ( to be expected for a minimal live cd ) |
| 01:10.43 | sgk284 | what concerns you about his post? |
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| 01:11.01 | spldart | n00b rolleyes in a thread like that worries me |
| 01:11.15 | spldart | Like he's about to launch into something |
| 01:11.21 | spldart | but hasn't....yet |
| 01:11.28 | spldart | and perhaps wont |
| 01:11.59 | sgk284 | well if you look at his icon it is more or less like the image of the map, maybe he thought someone ripped off his idea |
| 01:12.12 | sgk284 | or weregoose was just being a troll or something stupid :) |
| 01:12.13 | spldart | thought of that... Wasn't sure |
| 01:12.52 | sgk284 | do you know if the fire is animated? |
| 01:13.03 | spldart | Maybe I'm to sensitive |
| 01:14.05 | spldart | Landsharks fire is a flowing set of colors in a defined shape |
| 01:14.16 | spldart | Kinda animated kinda not |
| 01:14.21 | spldart | I'm using it in my map |
| 01:15.11 | spldart | My pyramids burn like those insence cones :D |
| 01:15.55 | sgk284 | heh he uses the clouds texture for the fire, nice |
| 01:16.10 | sgk284 | although textures can be downloaded now by clients, so it probably be improved |
| 01:16.23 | sgk284 | s/be/can be |
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| 01:18.21 | spldart | Is that how he did that :cool realization: |
| 01:27.07 | cosmos | ~ducati |
| 01:27.14 | cosmos | ~d |
| 01:27.17 | cosmos | always get that wrong |
| 01:27.33 | cosmos | umm |
| 01:28.17 | menotume | ya - he's gone |
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| 01:28.34 | cosmos | meno! |
| 01:28.44 | menotume | hiya cosmos :) |
| 01:28.53 | spldart | OMG |
| 01:29.05 | spldart | What did Ibot say?!?!?! |
| 01:29.43 | spldart | ~spldart |
| 01:29.45 | cosmos | yeah i need to do a line of coke after that one |
| 01:30.16 | menotume | heh - he's been on hepcat too |
| 01:30.20 | spldart | I could do with a line of good meth :eek: |
| 01:30.35 | cosmos | got that too spldart |
| 01:30.58 | cosmos | meno hes on hepcat?! |
| 01:31.07 | spldart | WOAH! |
| 01:31.14 | spldart | I want to party at your place ;) |
| 01:31.30 | spldart | hehe |
| 01:33.45 | uso | doesn't badword filtering prevent such nicks? |
| 01:33.51 | uso | is it off or buggy? |
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| 01:57.10 | menotume | cosmos: no, i checked hepcat's OLD logs, he logged in there many times with controverial callsigns most of the time |
| 02:02.33 | wegstar | ... |
| 02:03.35 | Mr_Molez | .. |
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| 02:11.45 | spldart | Ah now that's just wrong |
| 02:11.50 | spldart | i'm logged in as an admin |
| 02:12.00 | spldart | I have my endshots set at 5 |
| 02:12.07 | spldart | And I got kicked off my own map |
| 02:12.08 | spldart | :mad: |
| 02:12.34 | spldart | Can I disable to set it higher to get less of this crap? |
| 02:12.51 | spldart | I'm tempted to go back to 2.0.0 :( |
| 02:20.27 | menotume | can it be disabled by setting endshots to 0 or something |
| 02:21.25 | spldart | heh |
| 02:21.27 | spldart | :) |
| 02:37.07 | menotume | spldart: a quick look seems to verify - trying setting endshot to 0 |
| 02:38.13 | menotume | err, 'try' setting endshotlimit to 0 |
| 02:39.20 | menotume | what WOULD the world do without grep ? |
| 02:45.57 | sussudio | -|- (A-ha)_The_Sun_Always_Shines_On_TV(Extended_Version).mp3 ( 9.8 MB 160 kbps 00:08:34 Year:1985 ) -|- |
| 02:47.10 | Mr_Molez | any chance of pimpi being put up |
| 02:51.25 | sussudio | up what? |
| 02:54.40 | Mr_Molez | up and working |
| 03:00.47 | spldart | wow... I like DTR's bakadigital server |
| 03:01.00 | spldart | Oh |
| 03:01.07 | spldart | I'll set my enshotlimit to 0 |
| 03:04.40 | spldart | Ok... I set it to 0 and picked up GM, which is always what set off endshot, and fired it everywhere at everyspeed. didn't get banned yet. |
| 03:54.24 | wegstar | what's this endshot thing? |
| 03:56.48 | lan56 | when the shot ends |
| 03:57.33 | trepan | an overzealous anti-cheat mechanism |
| 03:59.19 | wegstar | oh |
| 03:59.40 | wegstar | which... |
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| 04:04.34 | wegstar | ... |
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| 04:13.27 | trepan | got a test server up with base guardians (simply directed world weapons) |
| 04:13.44 | MeBigFatGuy | kuel |
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| 04:18.12 | Aribeth | ctf in the 22nd century |
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| 04:19.16 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 04:19.45 | wegstar | ~weather KSFO |
| 04:20.08 | wegstar | ~more |
| 04:20.10 | ibot | more is probably Displays the contents of the named files, one screenful at a time. Syntax: more (file1) (file2) ...(fileN). Where file1 through fileN are the files to display. Example: more papers/history-final displays the file papers/history-final. |
| 04:20.14 | wegstar | ... |
| 04:24.00 | spldart | ~weather ksgr |
| 04:25.27 | sussudio | ~weather hell |
| 04:26.18 | spldart | ~weather hades |
| 04:26.31 | wegstar | too bad :P |
| 04:26.32 | spldart | ~weather netherregions |
| 04:26.46 | wegstar | ~weather KKK |
| 04:26.53 | wegstar | ~weather KKKK |
| 04:27.12 | spldart | ~weather wet-trout |
| 04:27.18 | wegstar | ~weather ksgk |
| 04:27.33 | cosmos | ~weather MILF |
| 04:27.39 | wegstar | ~weather KLA |
| 04:27.53 | wegstar | ~weather KLIA |
| 04:28.01 | cosmos | ~weather LAX |
| 04:28.22 | wegstar | ~weather KLAX |
| 04:28.29 | wegstar | :P |
| 04:28.35 | cosmos | always off by one |
| 04:28.40 | wegstar | :) |
| 04:28.55 | wegstar | hmm.. |
| 04:29.11 | wegstar | ~weather KNJY |
| 04:29.24 | cosmos | hrm KBIG 104 is switching format to gangsta rap |
| 04:29.34 | wegstar | ~weather KGB |
| 04:30.02 | spldart | ~weather bzfs |
| 04:30.20 | wegstar | ~weather KORG |
| 04:30.34 | bzflagwiz_ | ~weather MLI |
| 04:30.37 | cosmos | <Rada_200> if we have to use nuclear weapons and war against the middle east, north korea, and china so be it. George W Bush is an enlightened visionary shaping the free 21st century |
| 04:30.49 | wegstar | ... |
| 04:31.11 | wegstar | china?... |
| 04:31.17 | bzflagwiz_ | ~weather 61265 |
| 04:31.23 | wegstar | I see, all the communist countries... |
| 04:31.39 | spldart | Nuke 'em all |
| 04:31.39 | cosmos | yeah he was arguing that 50 million dead chinese was no big loss if it meant freedom for the chinese |
| 04:31.57 | sussudio | and they say he's a megalomaniac fucktard |
| 04:32.09 | wegstar | enlightened visionary in a nuclear winter... |
| 04:32.24 | sussudio | hm was hitler even responsible for that many deaths? |
| 04:32.33 | sussudio | he wants to up him one |
| 04:32.38 | MeBigFatGuy | 50M? um, no |
| 04:32.58 | wegstar | how about china's response....? |
| 04:33.01 | spldart | Kill a commie for mommy |
| 04:33.06 | wegstar | :) |
| 04:33.17 | wegstar | we will get heavy blasts too :P |
| 04:33.38 | spldart | Nobody single human before or since has the quantity of blood on his hands than Adolph Hitler |
| 04:33.47 | sussudio | there's Stalin |
| 04:33.55 | sussudio | and Mao |
| 04:33.58 | sussudio | Pol Pot |
| 04:33.59 | spldart | Lots of those deaths were war |
| 04:34.02 | cosmos | if we are going to have a ruthless SOB in the white house lets at least have a crafty smart one. someone exhume nixon hes still got time left on the presidency |
| 04:34.05 | MeBigFatGuy | alexander the great |
| 04:34.06 | spldart | I'm talking just murder |
| 04:34.10 | sussudio | so am i |
| 04:34.23 | wegstar | Genghis Khan... |
| 04:34.32 | wegstar | :) |
| 04:34.33 | cosmos | stalin caused greater death than hitler |
| 04:34.36 | spldart | I don't believe any of those listed have the body count in cold blooded murder |
| 04:34.41 | cosmos | but he had more time heh |
| 04:34.43 | spldart | True but that includes war |
| 04:34.47 | MeBigFatGuy | you would be wrong |
| 04:34.47 | spldart | weather justified or not |
| 04:34.48 | sussudio | Stalin killed his own people |
| 04:34.53 | wegstar | Chairman Mao did caused more |
| 04:34.58 | cosmos | he had over 30 million purged |
| 04:35.07 | spldart | He had 30 million killed? |
| 04:35.08 | MeBigFatGuy | hitler was minor compared to some |
| 04:35.10 | cosmos | yes |
| 04:35.14 | spldart | Is that confirmed |
| 04:35.18 | cosmos | but remember the populace of china and russia |
| 04:35.22 | wegstar | not counting all the others died trhough the Red Army... |
| 04:35.24 | cosmos | spldart just watch the history channel |
| 04:35.32 | wegstar | er... killed by the Red Army |
| 04:35.33 | cosmos | they are always showing that stuff heh |
| 04:35.35 | spldart | I watch the history channel 6 to 8 hours a day |
| 04:35.44 | cosmos | then wait for the big stalin documentary |
| 04:35.45 | MeBigFatGuy | wow... full life |
| 04:35.48 | cosmos | it had all that in there |
| 04:35.53 | spldart | ooOOoo |
| 04:36.03 | sussudio | i watched a documentary about honeybadgers on national geographic yesterday |
| 04:36.03 | spldart | While I'm working at my bench :rolleyes: |
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| 04:36.37 | spldart | I have tv, dvd, pc, broadband, hi fi.... etc etc |
| 04:36.44 | spldart | At my office |
| 04:36.48 | spldart | at my workbench |
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| 04:37.04 | spldart | So I let the tv run while I'm happily working on electronics |
| 04:37.22 | spldart | Up to 3 or 4 then I switch to local news |
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| 04:39.10 | spldart | I've been thinking about it. Mao's estate needs to hire a better publicity agent. |
| 04:39.47 | wegstar | Chairman Mao also induced cannibalism among the chinese during the "Great Leap Forward"... |
| 04:40.00 | spldart | SOYLENT GREEN~ |
| 04:40.07 | sussudio | soylent yellow? |
| 04:40.28 | spldart | Wow... Mao was leet wasn't he :eek:' |
| 04:40.45 | spldart | Bad bad pun sussudio :eek: |
| 04:40.59 | spldart | but worth a chuckle |
| 04:41.00 | spldart | ;) |
| 04:41.26 | sussudio | spldart: could've been worse. like "i bet they felt hungry again soon afterwards" |
| 04:42.39 | spldart | OMG |
| 04:42.44 | wegstar | ? |
| 04:42.49 | spldart | :D |
| 04:43.22 | wegstar | must be wikipedia... :) |
| 04:57.38 | spldart | Night all... We got company over here. |
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| 05:02.13 | bzflagwiz_ | hey cosmos - I just tried to sign on to hepcat and it said "refused - impersonating admins, tking, capping own flag"... what's up with that? |
| 05:16.54 | wegstar | ... |
| 05:17.18 | wegstar | what username do you use? |
| 05:18.36 | lan56 | "Knightmare" :) jk |
| 05:18.46 | bzflagwiz_ | my callsign is wiz |
| 05:18.56 | wegstar | ah |
| 05:19.10 | wegstar | are you sure it's registered? |
| 05:19.26 | bzflagwiz_ | globally on the forums, yes... |
| 05:19.30 | wegstar | hmmm |
| 05:19.40 | bzflagwiz_ | 10th overall registration... |
| 05:20.02 | wegstar | I thought I met the creator of the secretplace map... he's called "wiz" too... hmm |
| 05:20.08 | wegstar | anyway, |
| 05:22.12 | bzflagwiz_ | that's me... |
| 05:29.18 | wegstar | ohhh.. really? |
| 05:29.47 | bzflagwiz_ | yep - we chatted a few weeks ago on louman's bridges map... |
| 05:30.12 | wegstar | yes.. I remember... |
| 05:30.49 | wegstar | I can't find cosmos in the servers.. I wonder where he is... |
| 05:31.54 | bzflagwiz_ | I found out that I am caught up in a broad IP ban of an entire class A netblock... |
| 05:32.15 | wegstar | someone there was banned recently... |
| 05:32.40 | wegstar | he kept switching IP addresses... |
| 05:32.57 | wegstar | I wonder if that might be the cause... |
| 05:33.14 | bzflagwiz_ | Unfortunately I know that sometimes the only way to handle a persistent problem is to ban a huge IP range. |
| 05:34.02 | bzflagwiz_ | My ISP recently made some changes and has all DHCP leases set to 1 hour :( |
| 05:34.31 | bzflagwiz_ | So the guy in question might not have even been INTENTIONALLY trying to change his IP... |
| 05:35.51 | wegstar | 1 hour?? |
| 05:35.57 | wegstar | he was back under a minute... |
| 05:36.41 | wegstar | oh well, I'll talk to Head and Spud,who are currently on... |
| 05:37.58 | bzflagwiz_ | 1 hour - yep. They modified the way they provision cable modems. Until they get everyone re-provisioned they have the lease at 1 hour. I missed my school's NCAA tourney game last week because of that... |
| 05:38.30 | bzflagwiz_ | No hurry really. I'm going to bed soon anyway... |
| 05:42.39 | wegstar | Head doesn't have the level to change the bans... |
| 05:42.49 | wegstar | I'll talk to spud ;) |
| 05:43.09 | wegstar | oh.. nevermind.. he's a cop too |
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| 05:44.39 | uso | oops |
| 05:45.08 | uso | 050323 03:23:36 cosmos [SERVER->] 12.*.*.* banned by: cosmos |
| 05:45.18 | uso | 050323 03:23:36 cosmos [SERVER->] reason: impersonating admins, tking, c |
| 05:45.19 | uso | apping own flag. they a |
| 05:45.23 | uso | 050323 03:23:37 cosmos re DONE. |
| 05:45.37 | uso | you probably match this ban |
| 05:46.04 | bzflagwiz_ | yep - indeed I do match that ban... |
| 05:46.39 | wegstar | wow.. that is broad... |
| 05:46.43 | uso | somewhat rigorous :) |
| 05:47.01 | uso | they must hurt him a lot |
| 05:47.06 | blast007 | 16.7 million addresses ;) |
| 05:47.10 | wegstar | mez** or something was his name |
| 05:47.14 | wegstar | eek |
| 05:47.47 | wegstar | I remember.. he killed me 5 times... when we were spawning on base.. before he was banned :) |
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| 05:48.20 | wegstar | people voted to ban him 6 times successfully, but he kept coming back... |
| 05:48.34 | wegstar | and so I came here and reported :( |
| 05:48.42 | bzflagwiz_ | Sometimes you get so fed up with dealing with troublemakers that it is easy to just ban with a broad brush and get back to enjoying your game... |
| 05:49.10 | uso | yes |
| 05:49.26 | bzflagwiz_ | HAH! I remember you doing that wegstar, and cosmos' response that "they are done" :) |
| 05:49.36 | uso | thats the crap with the dynamic adresses |
| 05:49.48 | wegstar | :( |
| 05:52.18 | bzflagwiz_ | OK - as an IRC newbie - two questions |
| 05:52.33 | bzflagwiz_ | how do I change to my main callsign from this one... |
| 05:52.47 | blast007 | /nick <callsign> |
| 05:52.47 | wegstar | '/nick <newnick>' |
| 05:52.53 | wegstar | for most clients.. |
| 05:53.08 | wegstar | I found one strange one before :) |
| 05:53.15 | blast007 | heh, I think I'm playing too much bzflag...I said "callsign" ;) |
| 05:53.22 | wegstar | heh |
| 05:54.01 | bzflagwiz | and how do I quit with one of those clever "parting shot" messages? |
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| 05:54.57 | uso | /quit <message> |
| 05:55.02 | uso | afaik |
| 05:55.17 | uso | but you probably can set it for your client |
| 05:55.25 | uso | somewhere :) |
| 05:55.54 | bzflagwiz | ok - I tried that once before (/quit <message>), but I didn't see the results of it, so I never knew if it worked :) |
| 05:56.29 | uso | use a mirror :), i.e. start irc twice |
| 05:57.23 | bzflagwiz | heh |
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| 06:28.54 | Pimpinella | Mr_Molez: up now, are you still? |
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| 07:43.01 | lan56 | did you hear how scientists found blood of a t-rex? |
| 07:43.40 | lan56 | this means that we can one day clone dinosaurs, meaning that "60 minutes" may never go off the air |
| 07:43.55 | lan56 | :)))) (drums & cymbol) |
| 07:46.03 | ruskie | lol |
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| 09:14.43 | Pimpinella | somebody from CA around? |
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| 09:27.12 | Aribeth | yep |
| 09:35.20 | Pimpinella | Aribeth: do you know claremont colleges? |
| 09:36.58 | Pimpinella | is it a big institution? |
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| 09:44.45 | Aribeth | no i dont |
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| 10:19.04 | sussudio | there's a badger college in wisconsin |
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| 10:24.48 | jomojo | okay i seriously think you should have to register before being able to download game, or installing |
| 10:25.30 | Pimpinella | wow, even before install? |
| 10:25.50 | Pimpinella | i don't think this fit's GPL ;) |
| 10:26.02 | jomojo | yeah |
| 10:26.14 | jomojo | i mean it can cut down on a lot of problems |
| 10:26.29 | jomojo | to have everyone playing set up globally registered |
| 10:26.42 | Pimpinella | i'm going to force registration in order to play |
| 10:27.00 | Pimpinella | cosmos did already |
| 10:27.07 | jomojo | no overlapping names, and you could make it much more difficult to for cheaters and teamkillers |
| 10:27.18 | jomojo | well he is heading there |
| 10:27.40 | jomojo | but the newbies may not understand how or decide to unless really instructed and prompted |
| 10:28.16 | Pimpinella | i'll annouche it for a week on servermessage and admessage |
| 10:28.17 | jomojo | servers like vipers, and overlord require noobs to keep busy |
| 10:28.18 | sussudio | can you get admin access through global reg only? |
| 10:28.26 | Pimpinella | no |
| 10:28.29 | sussudio | good |
| 10:28.38 | sussudio | because that sounded like an accident waiting to happen |
| 10:28.59 | Pimpinella | presumed you have specified a working passdb file |
| 10:29.37 | jomojo | Pimpinella: will non public servers ever be able to have global login |
| 10:29.38 | ToughShooter | ~weather EDDF |
| 10:29.51 | Pimpinella | jomojo: i don't agree, most players on viper are regulars |
| 10:30.25 | jomojo | well then overlord and pillbox has a its fair share |
| 10:31.05 | jomojo | at the very least we should make the registering your proflie web page easier to get to, as short of address as possible |
| 10:31.36 | Pimpinella | ack |
| 10:32.02 | Pimpinella | link from bzflag homepage |
| 10:32.47 | Pimpinella | we need also in game usermanagement for global groups |
| 10:32.59 | jomojo | explain |
| 10:33.00 | Pimpinella | but thats not that easy to handle |
| 10:33.17 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:33.27 | jomojo | ah |
| 10:34.42 | Pimpinella | it'd need changes on server, listserver and phpbb |
| 10:38.27 | jomojo | where is the link on the homepage. www.bzflag.org |
| 10:38.47 | Pimpinella | there's none yet, but there should be one ;) |
| 10:39.58 | jomojo | who would do that? |
| 10:40.05 | jomojo | or rather who runs the homepage |
| 10:40.15 | Pimpinella | TimRiker i think |
| 10:41.01 | Pimpinella | GvzEvxre: how about adding a link to bzbb registration page to the bzflag homepage? |
| 10:42.01 | jomojo | pimpi you never did answer my global login question for private servers |
| 10:42.16 | Pimpinella | what question? |
| 10:42.29 | jomojo | will global login ever work for private servers |
| 10:43.12 | jomojo | lol you jerk ;) |
| 10:43.38 | Pimpinella | prolly, prolly not |
| 10:43.50 | Pimpinella | somebody needs to implement it |
| 10:44.05 | jomojo | if i had the skills or understanding i would |
| 10:44.23 | Pimpinella | if it had time i would too |
| 10:45.07 | Pimpinella | think it also needs changes on the listserver |
| 10:45.31 | Pimpinella | which means it's probably a protocol change |
| 10:46.22 | jomojo | oh pimpi i noticed a small bug with servers |
| 10:46.27 | Pimpinella | dunno if they will agree to do so before 2.1 |
| 10:46.44 | Pimpinella | the messed up cap count? |
| 10:46.53 | jomojo | yeah |
| 10:47.10 | jomojo | could be an issue with matches, you know how testy some league players get |
| 10:47.33 | Pimpinella | havn't looked for it yet, but there are some moce server side counters that need work |
| 10:48.07 | Pimpinella | imho the server really needs some cleanup, but i don't have enough time to do so |
| 10:49.04 | jomojo | ah dude bzflag is all important drop everything else, you don't need to make money do you? ;) |
| 10:52.20 | Pimpinella | basically no, but i have to pay for my dsl connection or i won't be able to commit ;) |
| 10:52.43 | jomojo | well i am off to feed my other addiction television |
| 10:52.55 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 11:09.58 | Pimpinella | jomojo: as far as i understand not only reducing the losing teams score and not giving the winning team a win is meant as a feature |
| 11:10.09 | Pimpinella | and it makes sense |
| 11:11.06 | Pimpinella | if i cap my own flag the opponent team did nothing for the cap |
| 11:11.39 | Pimpinella | though it may be problematic for league matches |
| 11:18.34 | uso | could somebody try turbogfx.homelinux.net:5159? gives me a segfault after loading the map |
| 11:18.49 | uso | i joined as observer, if this does matter |
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| 11:21.25 | uso | seems to be a large map, so something may run out of range |
| 11:21.51 | Pimpinella | uso: review the url plz |
| 11:22.05 | Pimpinella | doesn't even resolve foe me |
| 11:22.08 | Pimpinella | for |
| 11:22.47 | _Manu_ | mean port 5154? |
| 11:23.03 | uso | on moment, second try with an older version has crased my box |
| 11:23.23 | Pimpinella | and org maybe? |
| 11:23.42 | uso | org maybe |
| 11:24.01 | _Manu_ | the cavern map? |
| 11:24.34 | uso | cavern + overlord, rabbit hunt, 3 shot or so |
| 11:24.42 | _Manu_ | yes.. it's ok |
| 11:24.59 | _Manu_ | but it's turbogfx.net:5154 |
| 11:25.40 | uso | hmm, was from brain ... getting old ;) |
| 11:26.09 | uso | but homelinux was in the name |
| 11:26.22 | _Manu_ | i can't see it |
| 11:26.29 | Pimpinella | turbogfx.homelinux.org:5159 |
| 11:26.38 | Pimpinella | is listed and works for me |
| 11:26.41 | _Manu_ | ~bzfquery turbogfx.net:5154 |
| 11:27.23 | _Manu_ | uso, try to delete your bz cache |
| 11:27.30 | Pimpinella | it's legoguys caverns and overlord |
| 11:27.54 | Pimpinella | in a slow connection |
| 11:28.09 | uso | it's turbogfx.homelinux.org:5159 |
| 11:28.20 | uso | that's what crashed for me |
| 11:28.23 | Pimpinella | yep, have been there |
| 11:28.31 | Pimpinella | worked |
| 11:28.39 | _Manu_ | ~bzfquery turbogfx.homelinux.org:5159 |
| 11:29.39 | uso | maybe one week old bzflag is too old ;) |
| 11:30.04 | _Manu_ | also working for me |
| 11:30.05 | _Manu_ | ~bzfquery turbogfx.homelinux.org:5159 |
| 11:30.19 | uso | :) |
| 11:30.43 | _Manu_ | have you tried /set crashMode off ? lol ;-P |
| 11:32.51 | uso | lol |
| 11:33.05 | uso | cache isn't the problem this time |
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| 11:52.59 | Birdie | on tankwar it even crashes for the players |
| 11:53.03 | Birdie | ducati only observers to |
| 11:53.31 | Pimpinella | k, it's fixed in cvs now |
| 11:55.15 | uso | lol, i have not even compiled and already have an outdated version :) |
| 11:55.34 | Pimpinella | hm? |
| 11:55.44 | Pimpinella | fixed it yesterday |
| 11:55.59 | uso | oh, misunderstand you |
| 11:56.01 | Pimpinella | so you should have it already |
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| 11:57.40 | uso | btw, gcc 3.4 warns about -mcpu is deprecated |
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| 11:58.53 | Pimpinella | Birdie: does it crash _everytime_ for players on tankwar? |
| 11:59.43 | Birdie | somethimes one team stays in the game |
| 11:59.54 | Birdie | but lately every one closes bz just befure the match starts and comes back |
| 12:06.23 | Pimpinella | hm, that means the bug is worse than i thought |
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| 12:13.22 | uso | has there something changed with font rendering during last week? |
| 12:13.50 | uso | the top line (in observer mode "Driving with ...") is scrambled |
| 12:14.02 | uso | now |
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| 12:22.25 | uso | darn, bzflag 2 is not fun at the moment |
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| 12:34.53 | uso | cvs HEAD also crashes for me on this turbogfx server |
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| 12:38.54 | uso | this 2.0 is fragile like hell :( |
| 12:39.21 | ruskie | fragile? |
| 12:39.24 | ruskie | how so... |
| 12:39.34 | ruskie | worked fine for me... using --with-x though... |
| 12:39.36 | _Manu_ | it's running fine for me |
| 12:39.49 | uso | that may be the difference |
| 12:39.50 | ruskie | if it used plain sdl it liked to crash... |
| 12:39.51 | _Manu_ | using SDL :) |
| 12:39.53 | jomojo | 2 won't work on my old G3 mac |
| 12:39.58 | jomojo | for some reason |
| 12:40.11 | uso | yes, 1.10 works rock solid |
| 12:40.13 | jomojo | i have the latest system as well, and it works fine on my other mac |
| 12:40.20 | _Manu_ | perhaps is a mac issue |
| 12:40.30 | uso | no, dont think so |
| 12:40.41 | uso | it feels like memory issues |
| 12:40.49 | uso | weired pointers or so |
| 12:41.02 | _Manu_ | weired? k |
| 12:41.05 | uso | serverlist is scrambled, font now also |
| 12:41.24 | uso | hangs often on server connect |
| 12:41.36 | jomojo | yeah i compiled my latest cvs yesterday, and now i have even lower fps with this version |
| 12:41.42 | ruskie | hmmm for me it locked up when usind sdl on server connect |
| 12:41.52 | jomojo | my older cvs version from a month ago gives me better cvs |
| 12:41.57 | uso | ruskie: yes |
| 12:42.15 | uso | i delete my cache now before i start it, halps a bit |
| 12:42.15 | jomojo | brlcad said the fonts are messing with 2.0 and causing fps loss on certain machines |
| 12:42.20 | uso | helps |
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| 12:42.35 | _Manu_ | jomojo, true |
| 12:44.17 | uso | jomojo: true, and that's another big problem |
| 12:44.17 | jomojo | i used to be able to run 250 + fps on ducati. now i am grateful for 60 |
| 12:44.17 | uso | because of this i'm forced to use the ati drivers ... if bzflag hangs i have to power off with this drivers :(( |
| 12:44.17 | _Manu_ | jomojo, well 50 is enought ;) |
| 12:44.18 | uso | noooo |
| 12:44.33 | uso | below about 100 fps it jerks |
| 12:44.39 | uso | and gets blurred |
| 12:44.56 | jomojo | no way, the better i see, the better i can match. Normally i don't care but for league matches i get slightly upset if it drops below 100 |
| 12:44.58 | _Manu_ | don't think so |
| 12:45.42 | uso | _Manu_: i'm experimenting for 3 weeks with the frame rates ;) |
| 12:46.02 | _Manu_ | well.. 50 fps is enought for your eyes.. |
| 12:46.05 | uso | the only thing makes it playable below 100 fps is vsync |
| 12:46.26 | _Manu_ | uso, another thing.. is the client can't do the work faster as required |
| 12:46.30 | jomojo | yeah brlcad and i ran all kinds of test, and logged my machines performance, certain aspects of 2.0 eats framerate SDL, font and a few other things |
| 12:46.32 | uso | and vsync makes it sluggish |
| 12:47.23 | uso | jomojo: not certain things, the console rendering coasts me 60% of my fps |
| 12:47.27 | ruskie | well turning off the console ussualy enhances the fps a bit... |
| 12:47.35 | uso | still can't play with console on |
| 12:47.38 | ruskie | vsync off also enhanced the fps for me |
| 12:47.43 | jomojo | true, the console does eat most of it |
| 12:50.30 | uso | _Manu_: sorry, don't understand what your last sentence means |
| 12:51.36 | jomojo | I am still trying to figure out why my older machine wont run bzflag. |
| 12:51.55 | jomojo | i tried purging the machine of all bz files and doing a builld and still nothing |
| 12:51.55 | _Manu_ | uso, simply.. if your pc is too slow.. can't display more fps.. but not only displaying.. also making all the work slower |
| 12:52.13 | _Manu_ | really is not a fps problem.. it's a speed problem |
| 12:52.22 | uso | this maybe too |
| 12:52.27 | _Manu_ | most of TV are 50fps or 60fps |
| 12:52.34 | _Manu_ | and DVD are 25/50 fps |
| 12:52.45 | uso | it's only a 1 GHz P3 |
| 12:52.47 | _Manu_ | not a fps problem... |
| 12:53.06 | _Manu_ | your eyes are happy with things over 25 fps |
| 12:53.13 | jomojo | 1 ghz g3 should do the job fairly nicely |
| 12:53.30 | jomojo | at close range, but at distance fps makes a difference |
| 12:53.47 | _Manu_ | well..when i wrote some anticheats speed senses.. i found macs are doing the things bad using true time |
| 12:54.06 | jomojo | true |
| 12:54.10 | uso | mabe it's not really an fps problem, but it gives me double pictures below say about 80-100 fps |
| 12:54.21 | uso | 25 fps??? |
| 12:54.25 | jomojo | very true macs get kicked for weird things by sensetive anti cheats, which are not cheats |
| 12:54.46 | uso | the eye needs 50 fps at minimum |
| 12:54.51 | uso | tv is interlaced |
| 12:54.57 | _Manu_ | uso, yes |
| 12:55.22 | uso | i see flickering up to 70 Hz |
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| 12:55.32 | uso | on monitors |
| 12:55.48 | uso | and my tv is 100 Hz :) |
| 12:55.50 | _Manu_ | well only looking fromthe eye side.. |
| 12:56.33 | _Manu_ | well if tv signal is not 100 hz.. no matter :) |
| 12:57.45 | uso | i don't know the theoretical basics, it's only subjective |
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| 12:58.00 | uso | and it's not a change coming with 2.0 |
| 12:58.14 | uso | 1.10 also has this double pictures at low frame rates |
| 12:58.34 | uso | but it runs a lot faster on my hardware, that's the difference |
| 12:59.24 | uso | maybe i try a nvidia card if i found a cheap one without fan |
| 12:59.42 | uso | this font rendering seems to be an ati issue |
| 13:00.55 | ruskie | I had no problesm with font rendering other then if I turned off console fps increased a bit |
| 13:00.56 | _Manu_ | i'm using a nvidia card and it's ok for me |
| 13:07.08 | uso | ruskie: a bit and loss of 60% are some what different ;) |
| 13:07.44 | uso | _Manu_: strange, if i first start bzflag in window and connect to this turbogfx server, it runs |
| 13:07.55 | uso | after this it also runs in full screen mode |
| 13:08.25 | uso | must be an issue with curl or socket handling |
| 13:08.42 | _Manu_ | yep.. perhaps a net problem |
| 13:24.04 | jomojo | as far as can be determined font rendering effects different machines to different extents some only small loss., some major loss. At least that is my understanding |
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| 15:25.07 | spldart | Morning all |
| 15:25.11 | bzflagwiz | morning |
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| 15:34.49 | uso | hehe, morning :) |
| 15:35.07 | uso | what is Houston, UTC-7h? |
| 15:35.38 | bzflagwiz | -6 I think |
| 15:36.22 | spldart | -6 |
| 15:37.58 | spldart | how long should I allow somebody to camp.. Paused in my server :confused: ? |
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| 15:38.21 | bzflagwiz | they are paused? |
| 15:39.02 | spldart | yeah. for quite a while |
| 15:39.23 | spldart | Just checked again. Still there and paused |
| 15:39.24 | bzflagwiz | on secretplace, the pause timeout is the same as the idling timeout - 5 minutes |
| 15:39.42 | spldart | Is that feature something I would have to turn on? |
| 15:40.08 | bzflagwiz | I'd send em a message the they'll be kicked in 5 minutes. Then kick 'em if they don't respond or unpause |
| 15:40.23 | spldart | Sounds like a good idea. I'll do that. |
| 15:40.30 | uso | how often is the score calculation be called in bzflag? every time a player is killed or for every frame? |
| 15:42.47 | bzflagwiz | Are you proposing the same calculation that my.bzflag.org uses for the stats page? |
| 15:43.29 | uso | it's at least better than the pure score now |
| 15:43.59 | uso | don't wanna fight for a different formula :) |
| 15:44.16 | bzflagwiz | I think the strength index has some weakness as an indicator of true skill also... |
| 15:44.27 | uso | surely |
| 15:44.32 | spldart | If I have to do it it's /kick playername correct? |
| 15:44.55 | uso | but you may discuss for a proper formule endless ;) |
| 15:45.07 | bzflagwiz | spldart - Yes. /kick playername or /kick "playername with spaces" |
| 15:45.27 | bzflagwiz | you can also add a reason /kick playername because you were paused too long |
| 15:45.30 | spldart | I haven't had to kick a single person yet. |
| 15:46.01 | bzflagwiz | you are exceedingly lucky :) |
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| 15:46.12 | spldart | I locked CoH off my server but that's it. Everyone else did as I asked when they got out of line |
| 15:46.13 | bzflagwiz | hiya Sporty |
| 15:46.23 | SportChick | hiya bzfagwiz |
| 15:46.39 | bzflagwiz | nice... :) |
| 15:46.41 | spldart | I tell you what.... My /report file has been much quieter now that CoH is gone too ;) |
| 15:46.50 | bzflagwiz | heh |
| 15:47.16 | spldart | 2 minutes and I kick the dude :( |
| 15:47.49 | bzflagwiz | uso : regarding sorting by strength index, I think your biggest fight might be adding another item to the already kinda cluttered scoreboard |
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| 15:48.52 | uso | no, not a new item, only sort order should be changable (optionally) |
| 15:49.04 | spldart | do I need quotes around the text giving a reason to kick? |
| 15:49.27 | spldart | hehe |
| 15:49.29 | bzflagwiz | but the sort order would look "wrong" if there were no indication on your screen of why it was sorted that way |
| 15:49.30 | spldart | my bad |
| 15:49.33 | uso | the strength values itself don't say too much :) |
| 15:49.53 | bzflagwiz | no - no quotes needed. everything after the callsign is treated as the message |
| 15:50.36 | uso | it has not to be the standard, only on option (for people who know what it is) |
| 15:51.02 | uso | it would be enough, if i could set it in the conf file |
| 15:51.13 | spldart | Ok... Kicked |
| 15:51.16 | bzflagwiz | I suppose you could replace score with strength index when sorted that way. Or add strength index to the scoreboard only when sorted that way. |
| 15:52.14 | uso | btw, may i set client settings from within bzflag? like i can do it for the server |
| 15:53.37 | bzflagwiz | uso - only within the options menu I think... |
| 15:54.06 | uso | hmm, what a pity |
| 15:55.08 | uso | bzflagwiz: question is if a more complex formula has effects on the performance |
| 15:55.24 | uso | if it is called every frame |
| 15:55.46 | spldart | Imagine that. He (the kicked) who wouldn't respond to me and wouldn't unpause immeadiately rejoined and is playing around. :confused: |
| 15:56.21 | uso | you have waked him up :) |
| 15:56.36 | bzflagwiz | uso - technically, yes it would slow things down a bit with a more complicated formula. But unless it was a hugely complicated formula I don't think it would affect performance noticeably |
| 15:57.11 | spldart | I guess |
| 15:57.13 | spldart | hehe |
| 15:57.14 | bzflagwiz | spldart - I suspect if you check your logs he was probably sitting there chatting with someone...or eating... |
| 15:57.51 | spldart | Actually the last 6 minutes there was noone else in the map but me and him |
| 15:57.51 | spldart | so chatting is out |
| 15:57.53 | spldart | and he didn't respond to me |
| 15:58.09 | spldart | I would love to have a log of what everyone says in my server |
| 15:58.14 | spldart | But I don't know how to do that |
| 15:58.29 | uso | you get it with -d |
| 15:58.48 | spldart | that logs it in the dos box |
| 15:58.55 | uso | have to redirect it in a file then |
| 15:58.55 | spldart | but I can't scroll back in time on that :( |
| 15:59.11 | spldart | already tried that with jeff |
| 15:59.19 | uso | oops, you are the win98 guy? |
| 15:59.23 | spldart | but my machine refuses to accept the redirect |
| 15:59.24 | spldart | yeah |
| 15:59.32 | spldart | But I'm learning linux REAL FAST |
| 15:59.33 | uso | ok, i remember :) |
| 15:59.33 | spldart | LOL |
| 16:00.23 | spldart | BZFlag has a window mode right? |
| 16:00.44 | [dmp] | try f1 :) |
| 16:00.54 | spldart | I'm working on editing videos, encoding videos and talking with you guys |
| 16:00.59 | spldart | ok |
| 16:01.37 | spldart | f1 didn't do anything :( |
| 16:02.33 | Tupone | f1 does work onl with SDL enabled bzflag |
| 16:02.58 | spldart | sdl |
| 16:03.07 | spldart | ? |
| 16:03.40 | Tupone | yeah, nobody posted bzflag with sdl for windows |
| 16:04.16 | spldart | OOHH |
| 16:04.20 | spldart | grr |
| 16:05.28 | Tupone | so F1 does not work for you, but you can start windowed with commandline or selecting the bzflag windowed icon |
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| 16:07.58 | spldart | bzflag windowed icon? |
| 16:08.33 | spldart | How does a XP Pro guy like me get bz into a window so I can just keep an eye on teh map |
| 16:08.54 | menotume | F1 ? |
| 16:09.04 | spldart | EEK |
| 16:09.07 | bzflagwiz | add -window to the command line that launches bzflag |
| 16:09.08 | menotume | :) |
| 16:09.18 | uso | can i simply add a setting to the conf file and check for it in bzflag with BZDB.isTrue("mySetting")? |
| 16:09.35 | uso | or do i need to define it elsewhere? |
| 16:10.33 | Tupone | spldart, you start bzflag clicking on an icon on a panel named bzflag, yeah? should be a further icon, for a windowed version |
| 16:10.34 | bzflagwiz | spldart: Assuming you launch it with an icon, edit the properties of the icon and change the target to something like "D:\Program Files\BZFlag2\bzflag.exe" -window |
| 16:11.22 | bzflagwiz | Yeah - what Tupone said too :) |
| 16:12.42 | uso | f1 works only for the sdl version, not for the X11 version? |
| 16:13.22 | Tupone | I did only for the sdl version. Dunno if someone else did for other platform. I guess no |
| 16:15.09 | spldart | OK! Thanks. I added the -window to my shortcut |
| 16:15.13 | spldart | much much better |
| 16:15.45 | spldart | Is there a way I can specify a different than default window size? |
| 16:16.44 | uso | geometry? |
| 16:16.44 | Tupone | -geometry |
| 16:17.00 | spldart | That would go in my shorcut too? |
| 16:17.09 | Tupone | bzflag --help |
| 16:17.14 | bzflagwiz | spldart - Tupone mentioned that you should have an icon for a windowed shortcut. That has a -geometry 800x600 setting in it. |
| 16:17.41 | bzflagwiz | you could either add that to your shortcut, or use the windowed shortcut... |
| 16:18.04 | uso | any hint where this BZDB related stuff is defined? |
| 16:18.42 | spldart | Ok. I'm researching help... Sorry for the n00b questions |
| 16:31.21 | uso | ha, got rid of this highscore blinking :) |
| 16:45.52 | spldart | Had company over last night. Drank Hienikens... Now my living room furniture looks like -h -b |
| 16:52.22 | bzflagwiz | spldart - you probably have to use -j to get around then... |
| 16:52.59 | spldart | LOL |
| 16:55.21 | spldart | I guess I should have /kicked a few out |
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| 16:58.31 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 16:59.38 | spldart | Is there a way to pull a channel list on a specific server in irc? |
| 16:59.38 | *** join/#bzflag Fuddl (~fuddl@tittchen.saustall.busn.org) |
| 16:59.50 | menotume | spldart: yes |
| 17:00.14 | spldart | I feel like talking about car and bike motors |
| 17:00.42 | menotume | ummm, i know how to do it in my client, but i don't know the 'generic' command |
| 17:01.13 | spldart | hrm |
| 17:01.47 | menotume | try: /list |
| 17:04.35 | menotume | Ladies and Gentlemen, the long-awaited BZ-Contest has just begun at bzcontest.com. Good luck all ! |
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| 17:09.00 | spldart | Looks like /list is the right command... But it's also a great way to totally crash my client :-o |
| 17:09.19 | ruskie | spldart, /msg chanserv help |
| 17:09.27 | ruskie | use the chanservs list |
| 17:10.07 | menotume | spldart: what client are you using ? |
| 17:10.24 | spldart | MeGALiTH's Visual IRC 2.0 |
| 17:10.36 | menotume | ohh, sry, can't help you there |
| 17:10.55 | menotume | sometimes client have a built-in function for getting channel lists though |
| 17:11.40 | spldart | I'm poking around looking for just that |
| 17:12.19 | menotume | in xchat, it's window/channel list |
| 17:14.59 | menotume | i think ruskie's idea is the best |
| 17:15.02 | menotume | try: |
| 17:15.26 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.14 | spldart | 1 of 1 matches shown |
| 17:16.15 | spldart | lol |
| 17:16.32 | menotume | i got 29 |
| 17:16.54 | spldart | grrr |
| 17:17.05 | menotume | add the '*' at the end :) |
| 17:17.07 | spldart | #car group has nobody in it either |
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| 17:18.05 | spldart | ah... |
| 17:18.07 | spldart | Car audio |
| 17:18.10 | spldart | I'm big into that |
| 17:18.24 | spldart | Was once ranked 9th in the world in my power class |
| 17:18.43 | menotume | you might want to try othere servers - freenode is mostly for open-source projects |
| 17:19.08 | spldart | True.. I forgot that |
| 17:19.14 | spldart | Thanks though :D |
| 17:19.30 | menotume | have fun |
| 17:19.36 | spldart | hehe |
| 17:19.59 | spldart | now I'm watching my map, editing and encoding videos, surfing the web |
| 17:20.06 | spldart | talking bzflag and car audio |
| 17:20.18 | spldart | multitasking on my multiprocessor |
| 17:20.37 | amathis | http://php2press.com |
| 17:24.00 | menotume | hmmm, content there seems a bit 'repetitive' |
| 17:24.49 | menotume | ahhh, a work in progress |
| 17:24.51 | amathis | 6haha |
| 17:24.54 | amathis | exactly |
| 17:24.55 | amathis | :) |
| 17:24.57 | amathis | just put it up |
| 17:25.01 | menotume | gotya |
| 17:25.10 | amathis | suggestions? |
| 17:25.18 | menotume | add content ? |
| 17:25.21 | menotume | links |
| 17:25.31 | menotume | but, looks good :) |
| 17:25.33 | amathis | well, once I have content and links then sure. |
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| 17:29.26 | menotume | did you use php2press to create that page? :P |
| 17:29.47 | amathis | no, but it is going to be translated into a template for php2press for our homepage |
| 17:30.23 | menotume | is a great way to test your product - create your website with tit the way you want it to look |
| 17:30.32 | menotume | err, "with it" |
| 17:30.34 | menotume | geez |
| 17:30.37 | amathis | yep, also there is demo.php2press.com, don't click. |
| 17:30.40 | amathis | nothing there |
| 17:30.45 | menotume | i noticed :) |
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| 17:54.14 | jpa- | whoah |
| 17:54.17 | jpa- | i'm back |
| 17:54.32 | spldart | Hrm.. There is a Louman logged into my map.. But he doesn't sound like LouMan... Sounds like just another kid :confused |
| 17:55.22 | jpa- | is he actually identified and shows in the scores with a + sign? |
| 17:55.32 | spldart | what was the userstat thing again |
| 17:55.37 | spldart | No + signs |
| 17:55.43 | spldart | but global doesn't work well on my map |
| 17:56.44 | jpa- | userstats? you mean my.bzflag.org? |
| 17:57.38 | spldart | crap... I was to late to /playerlist |
| 17:57.41 | spldart | and get an ip |
| 17:57.57 | spldart | He acted like he didn't know the map or me |
| 17:58.48 | jpa- | logging is nice :) |
| 17:59.03 | spldart | yeah |
| 17:59.54 | spldart | I'm getting global logins maybe 50% of the time |
| 18:00.20 | jpa- | i said logging, not login :) |
| 18:00.33 | spldart | I know |
| 18:00.50 | spldart | My statement was an after thought to the problems with running on windows :( |
| 18:00.54 | trepan | "set showips 1" is handy |
| 18:00.56 | Aribeth | ~seen trepan |
| 18:00.57 | ibot | trepan is currently on #bzflag. Has said a total of 1 messages. Is idling for 3s |
| 18:01.03 | jpa- | lol :D |
| 18:01.16 | spldart | I would have known instantly known if it was LouMan if I had gotten the + sign |
| 18:01.33 | spldart | but the real LouMan sometimes doesn't even get it. Or me for that matter :( |
| 18:01.50 | spldart | I was going to pull up the stats, get the ip and check into it. |
| 18:02.16 | spldart | I'm sure LouMan wouldn't appreciate somebody else using his exact name... esp on maps he created |
| 18:02.50 | spldart | I drove mebigfatguy away :( |
| 18:02.51 | spldart | hehe |
| 18:05.26 | jpa- | ~GvzEvxre++ |
| 18:08.36 | spldart | I like http://67.10.210.195:91/theview.jpg |
| 18:10.14 | jpa- | that is nice :) |
| 18:12.57 | spldart | Yah know what would be really really cool? To be able to take short .mpg's of action in bzflag |
| 18:13.14 | trepan | it's been done |
| 18:13.18 | spldart | How? |
| 18:13.34 | spldart | I would love to be able to do that |
| 18:16.04 | spldart | Googling now |
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| 18:22.24 | Mr_Molez | u can recordfrom the server cant u |
| 18:22.47 | trepan | yes, but that will not make a video file |
| 18:22.54 | Mr_Molez | ahh |
| 18:23.15 | trepan | SnagIt or xvidcap are probably the kind of program he's looking for |
| 18:26.08 | spldart | Looks to a task to accomplish :( |
| 18:26.15 | spldart | to a = to be |
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| 18:32.17 | spldart | sounded like a doorbell |
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| 19:09.18 | amathis | shorty114: php2press.com |
| 19:09.27 | shorty114 | amathis: i saw it. looks good :) |
| 19:10.08 | amathis | !seen JeffM2501 |
| 19:10.09 | guu | amathis: JeffM2501 was last seen here 1 day, 0 hours, 20 minutes, and 1 second ago saying: <JeffM2501> that's what the message says |
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| 19:29.35 | shorty114 | hi Tupone |
| 19:29.45 | jpa- | bradddie |
| 19:30.06 | brad2901 | hi jpa_ |
| 19:30.12 | jpa- | 20:08:37 < spldart> I like http://67.10.210.195:91/theview.jpg |
| 19:30.17 | jpa- | isn't that cute? |
| 19:30.32 | brad2901 | yeah.. |
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| 19:41.14 | Tupone | hi shorty114 |
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| 20:10.42 | tm333 | ~bzfquery 71.34.105.24:5154 |
| 20:22.46 | SportChick | GvzEvxre: have you had a chance to make my debug version yet? |
| 20:23.19 | jpa- | SportChick: go find someone another with the same problem, then we can compare hardware and such |
| 20:35.15 | Pimpinella | Mr_Molez: oing |
| 20:35.21 | Pimpinella | Mr_Molez: png |
| 20:35.30 | Pimpinella | §$%&'§ |
| 20:35.32 | Mr_Molez | Pimpinella: eh ? |
| 20:35.53 | Pimpinella | you were searching for me last night? |
| 20:36.03 | Mr_Molez | Pimpinella: i was ? |
| 20:36.08 | shorty114 | lol |
| 20:37.05 | Pimpinella | seemed so, but wasn't urgent if you don't remember |
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| 21:14.40 | spldart | (central air can't keep up on this one room) |
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| 21:49.41 | Saturos | hi all! :) |
| 21:49.55 | ruskie | lo |
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| 22:03.09 | spldart | whew... waiting for wife to get back with weatherstripping but otherwise ready to install :D |
| 22:10.36 | hepcat | ~hepcat |
| 22:24.19 | menotume | hi Saturos |
| 22:27.11 | Saturos | hi |
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| 22:32.30 | menotume | ~bzfquery 64.81.117.104:5154 |
| 22:32.48 | menotume | something tells me that's not the real learner |
| 22:32.54 | hepcat | hrm |
| 22:33.00 | hepcat | f[3~[3~[3~ |
| 22:33.09 | hepcat | get his ip and add him to the master ban :) |
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| 22:33.18 | menotume | hi 'hepcat' :) |
| 22:33.31 | menotume | hehe |
| 22:33.58 | hepcat | hola. just touching up the pillbox/overlord rotation |
| 22:34.27 | menotume | kewl |
| 22:35.10 | menotume | Considering his score (1-7), I _would_ have thought it was the real learner, but then i remembered, learned doesn't play anymore :P |
| 22:35.11 | hepcat | only got a few threats this time |
| 22:35.17 | menotume | only a few ? |
| 22:35.24 | menotume | must be doing something wrong |
| 22:35.46 | hepcat | yeah well i just put the rotation in im sure ill get a lot of it soon |
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| 22:50.30 | hepcat | T[3~ |
| 22:51.10 | hepcat | a florida baptist churgh group vow to storm the terry schiavo hospice with assault rifles and grenades to "free her and preservie live" |
| 22:51.14 | hepcat | life |
| 22:52.24 | hepcat | http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=496&e=6&u=/ap/tv_fox_blocker |
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| 23:04.47 | Aribeth | oh god |
| 23:14.32 | menotume | assault rifles and grenades are always good for preserving life |
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| 23:16.40 | Mr_Molez | lol |
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| 23:20.27 | bzflagwiz_ | Thanks to whoever narrowed the 12.*.*.* ban on hepcat - I can get on now :) |
| 23:21.13 | hepcat | i did |
| 23:21.20 | hepcat | i am feeling generous |
| 23:21.21 | spldart | Did hepcat have a imposter? |
| 23:22.05 | hepcat | we had some trouble yes |
| 23:22.37 | spldart | I had a fake LouMan on my server earlier. |
| 23:22.52 | hepcat | i take it louman is the admin |
| 23:23.04 | spldart | no |
| 23:23.11 | spldart | he created the base map I use though. |
| 23:23.20 | spldart | This guy didn't know the map at all. And didn't know me. |
| 23:23.56 | hepcat | im working on the auotmatic denial of service attack against tkers, imposters, and flag cappers |
| 23:24.08 | spldart | ooOOoo |
| 23:24.13 | spldart | but is that legal? |
| 23:24.35 | hepcat | thats no t my problem |
| 23:24.44 | spldart | oh ic |
| 23:24.56 | spldart | Well. Good luck. I hope you succeed |
| 23:24.59 | hepcat | if i could just make the offendors computer eplode in their face |
| 23:25.14 | spldart | Like the movie scanners :-) |
| 23:25.25 | hepcat | ahh yes scanners |
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| 23:38.55 | spldart | I hate the hypocritcal religious organizations. I can get along fine with a normal baptist who actually follows the teachings but when somebody calls themself christian and threatens violence :mad: |
| 23:48.05 | spldart | AAAaaaahhhhhh 8-) |
| 23:48.48 | spldart | I got the window unit in on the computer room. (summer isn't that far off) It's finally getting confy again |
| 23:48.58 | hepcat | heh |
| 23:49.32 | spldart | My central air can't keep the computer room cooled off with so much stuff running in here. The rest of the house is fine. So i add a window unit during the warm months. |
| 23:49.59 | hepcat | [3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~[3~ |
| 23:50.10 | spldart | Fortunatley the compy room is in the back of the house. The HOA wouldn't stand for a window unit visible to the public |
| 23:50.12 | hepcat | i tried that too same situation |
| 23:50.19 | hepcat | but the cops showed up with a warrant |
| 23:50.24 | spldart | ??? |
| 23:50.28 | hepcat | suspected grow operation due to electic bill |
| 23:50.28 | spldart | No way |
| 23:50.32 | spldart | OMG |
| 23:50.45 | spldart | They got your electric bill?!?>! |
| 23:50.47 | hepcat | was a funny 30 mins |
| 23:50.52 | spldart | Subpoena? |
| 23:50.55 | hepcat | all bills are analyzed by police in CA |
| 23:51.00 | spldart | OMG |
| 23:51.10 | hepcat | the electic company turns them over if there are large spikes |
| 23:51.33 | ruskie | lol |
| 23:51.35 | spldart | I can't believe the government in CA :( It's been so for the last 20 years at least |
| 23:51.44 | ruskie | grow operation? |
| 23:51.55 | spldart | Weed I assume |
| 23:51.58 | hepcat | marijuana |
| 23:52.03 | hepcat | they use heat lamps and stuff |
| 23:52.09 | hepcat | lots of electicity |
| 23:52.33 | spldart | I just kept my 'grow' operation real small ;) |
| 23:52.34 | spldart | hehe |
| 23:53.00 | hepcat | i just dont use weed too weak anyow |
| 23:53.20 | spldart | I haven't in a long LONG time |
| 23:53.40 | hepcat | if i could figure out how to grow cocaine in the living room i would |
| 23:53.47 | spldart | LMAO |
| 23:53.53 | spldart | right?! |
| 23:54.26 | hepcat | nothinh beats a fat couple of lines and an hour of bzflag gaming |
| 23:54.37 | hepcat | well except a couple of whores |
| 23:54.56 | spldart | Should I be worried about talking about this on an open #channel? |
| 23:55.08 | spldart | I was talking to another user about meth on here just yesterday |
| 23:55.11 | spldart | And E too. |
