| 00:05.41 | *** join/#bzflag LordSarpedon (~naht@adsl-70-240-226-128.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 00:07.55 | *** join/#bzflag ElectricElf (~david@2ca0ce81de7bdc03.node.tor) |
| 00:12.53 | spldart | I think I know the problem now :( |
| 00:14.32 | JeffM2501 | does it involve pie? |
| 00:15.14 | spldart | it involves that nasty libcurl issue I think |
| 00:15.38 | JeffM2501 | curl is not pie |
| 00:15.45 | JeffM2501 | and curl is not used for list server fun |
| 00:16.05 | spldart | the list dropped my old addy but did not pick up my new addy |
| 00:17.04 | JeffM2501 | odd |
| 00:17.13 | JeffM2501 | what did you put for publicaddr ? |
| 00:17.35 | spldart | well. I'll just wait a bit longer. No problem ;) |
| 00:17.57 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.04 | spldart | wiat |
| 00:18.11 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:18.20 | JeffM2501 | you don't need the port |
| 00:18.22 | JeffM2501 | if it's default |
| 00:18.27 | JeffM2501 | or the / |
| 00:18.35 | spldart | ok |
| 00:18.38 | spldart | dropping it now |
| 00:18.46 | JeffM2501 | the /would make it wierd |
| 00:18.53 | JeffM2501 | it's not a URL |
| 00:19.27 | spldart | I should have known that |
| 00:19.50 | JeffM2501 | all good now? |
| 00:20.51 | spldart | lemme check... |
| 00:21.33 | spldart | Excellent. Thanks |
| 00:21.40 | spldart | Instantly in the server list |
| 00:21.47 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 00:22.01 | spldart | That was a dumb mistake that I shouldn't have made :( I need pie |
| 00:22.33 | spldart | Ahh! |
| 00:30.05 | spldart | Can bzadmin and bzflag run on the same machine at the same time? |
| 00:30.35 | orchid | yep |
| 00:30.58 | orchid | ctrl-alt-f1 , login and run bzadmin |
| 00:32.30 | JeffM2501 | alt tab :) |
| 00:32.40 | trepan | F4 |
| 00:32.41 | orchid | or that |
| 00:34.15 | *** join/#bzflag brad2901 (brad2901@ACD5FFD3.ipt.aol.com) |
| 00:35.20 | spldart | hrm |
| 00:37.53 | spldart | crud. I open bzadmin and enter the info and then it closes |
| 00:37.55 | spldart | grr |
| 00:38.41 | spldart | I put in spldart@spldart.bakadigital.com, password, port 5154 and then it closes |
| 00:39.20 | trepan | bzadmin -help? |
| 00:39.27 | spldart | k |
| 00:44.36 | *** join/#bzflag bzflagwiz (~wiz@12-240-60-115.client.mchsi.com) |
| 00:45.00 | spldart | Ok.. I got it started |
| 00:52.15 | spldart | Another query: |
| 00:53.01 | spldart | Is it possible to configure bzadmin.exe to log IP with the tank's that join throughout the day so I can come home at the end of the day and have a kinda log to make sure nobody got outta line? |
| 00:54.36 | JeffM2501 | the pie is strong with this one. |
| 00:54.59 | *** join/#bzflag bz7039 (~44542ca7@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:55.00 | spldart | Say a tank called 'pelvicthruster' joins at 2pm while I'm at work and makes a bunch of lued comments. I will be able to see his ip and username along with the comments and take action. at 5:30pm |
| 00:55.19 | bz7039 | hey, anyone up for some ctf on my server? |
| 00:55.24 | spldart | :confused: |
| 00:55.27 | JeffM2501 | server should log it all |
| 00:55.34 | JeffM2501 | it you got redirect working |
| 00:55.50 | spldart | remember. I couldn't redirect a log off of bzfs |
| 00:55.53 | spldart | 98 |
| 00:56.09 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:56.14 | JeffM2501 | you'd need to fix that to log anything |
| 00:56.20 | JeffM2501 | bzadmin is just a client |
| 00:56.25 | spldart | ah |
| 00:56.27 | JeffM2501 | clients are not sent other clients IPs |
| 00:56.39 | JeffM2501 | bzadmin infers no special magical abilitys |
| 00:56.54 | spldart | so it might be useful at work logged in as an admin and if I catch a tank in the act I can /userstats |
| 00:57.04 | spldart | I mean /playerlist |
| 00:57.10 | spldart | and get the ip to go with the username |
| 00:57.14 | spldart | but only in real time |
| 00:58.29 | spldart | Well.. It was worth a shot :) |
| 01:00.23 | JeffM2501 | may not be hard to force the client to dump to a text file too |
| 01:01.04 | bz7039 | hmm, apparently it's not registering that there are people in my room |
| 01:01.12 | bz7039 | ibot cabbage.servegame.org |
| 01:01.58 | bz7039 | any ideas? |
| 01:02.30 | JeffM2501 | well 1) that's not how you do a query |
| 01:02.35 | JeffM2501 | 2) what are you talking about? |
| 01:02.43 | bz7039 | on the my bzflag stat page |
| 01:02.48 | bz7039 | it's saying I have no people i n my server |
| 01:02.50 | bz7039 | I know I have 2 |
| 01:02.59 | bz7039 | er |
| 01:03.00 | bz7039 | wait |
| 01:03.28 | bz7039 | yeah, it's saying I have no one in |
| 01:03.31 | JeffM2501 | oh I don't think the stats page is current |
| 01:03.37 | spldart | what was the dump text command again? space>space log.txt ?? |
| 01:03.39 | bz7039 | well, ingame as well |
| 01:03.53 | JeffM2501 | ibot bzfquery cabbage.servegame.org |
| 01:04.13 | spldart | LMAO at vagiclean eek |
| 01:04.20 | bz7039 | =) |
| 01:04.22 | bz7039 | that'd be me |
| 01:04.43 | JeffM2501 | your not sending your public heartbeats then |
| 01:04.46 | spldart | Not kiddie server safe but I assume your not running a kiddie server ;) |
| 01:04.46 | JeffM2501 | to the list server |
| 01:04.51 | bz7039 | mk |
| 01:05.13 | bz7039 | how can i fix that |
| 01:05.17 | bz7039 | lol |
| 01:05.18 | bz7039 | nope |
| 01:05.23 | bz7039 | no 12 year old, please =) |
| 01:05.28 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 01:05.43 | bz7039 | never mind. |
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| 01:15.22 | spldart | looks like the bzadmin box can hold quite a bit of text. and my server isn't to busy |
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| 01:23.39 | ohgood | does anyone know what the problem is with gentoo and bzflag ? the latest ebuild doesn't make an executable - ? |
| 01:25.13 | cosmos | this should help ohgood |
| 01:25.17 | cosmos | http://funroll-loops.org/ |
| 01:25.50 | ohgood | oh haha. oh haha haha hardy ha. |
| 01:26.45 | ohgood | i prefer linuxsucks.whatever usually |
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| 01:42.00 | spldart | hehe |
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| 01:50.50 | JeffM2501 | gentoo users do seem zealtous at times |
| 01:50.58 | JeffM2501 | "comeon just install it.. it's not hard" |
| 01:51.07 | cosmos | ricers |
| 01:51.28 | spldart | I hate ricers :p |
| 01:51.31 | cosmos | just like the idiots drag racing all over our streets. had one last week their 14 foot spoiler sheared off on the 10 freeway |
| 01:51.37 | cosmos | apparently they put it on with velcro |
| 01:51.40 | cosmos | fucking idiots |
| 01:51.53 | JeffM2501 | language please |
| 01:52.00 | cosmos | yeah yeah heh |
| 01:52.00 | JeffM2501 | tho they are idiots :) |
| 01:52.15 | cosmos | i like bringing out the 73 roadrunner |
| 01:52.19 | cosmos | its always a fun event |
| 01:53.47 | spldart | Or any of my old mopars |
| 01:53.57 | cosmos | yeah i only have one |
| 01:54.07 | cosmos | id kill to have a 70 superbird 426 hemi |
| 01:54.08 | spldart | rumble rumble rumble sounds alot better than braaahahhhzzzzzzzzzzzzz |
| 01:54.23 | spldart | tphtpthpthtpht |
| 01:55.10 | spldart | For me it would be either a hurst equipped 68 dart or a 70 or 71 hemi or 6pack 440 challenger. |
| 01:55.15 | spldart | ooops |
| 01:55.18 | spldart | getting OT again :( |
| 01:55.22 | cosmos | i had one ricer come over to me at a gas station and tell me something was wrong with my engine. he thought the deep rumble was a problem |
| 01:55.36 | spldart | LOL |
| 01:56.07 | cosmos | no son this is just the sound of a custom built 340. back to romper room for you |
| 01:56.59 | spldart | Come back with 4 more cylinders and we'll talk ;) |
| 01:57.27 | cosmos | i did see the funniest thing the other day. a riced out kia sportage complete with neon tubing |
| 01:57.35 | spldart | LOL |
| 01:58.37 | cosmos | `/msg spldart i was born in detroit and lived there through the 70's as a kid. that was heaven on earth for muscle cars |
| 01:58.40 | cosmos | ack |
| 01:58.49 | cosmos | anyhow |
| 01:58.51 | spldart | It does appear 343 Guilty Spark has been kinda irratating/irritable on BZBB :confused: |
| 01:59.05 | cosmos | ? |
| 01:59.23 | Noodleman | spork! |
| 01:59.28 | spldart | JeffM mentioned he was kinda, I don't know, rude earlier to him |
| 01:59.32 | Noodleman | that's what i read at first glance :-) |
| 01:59.36 | brlcad | ~fling at Noodleman |
| 01:59.39 | ibot | ACTION flings swings at Noodleman |
| 01:59.46 | brlcad | ahh, no sporks |
| 01:59.48 | Noodleman | not to eat with tho |
| 02:00.03 | Noodleman | ooh, i might just order some noodles too :-) |
| 02:01.10 | wegstar | !!!! |
| 02:01.10 | guu | wegstar: bafuuuuuu! |
| 02:01.15 | wegstar | what happened to the forums??? |
| 02:01.24 | JeffM2501 | tim didn't renew the domain |
| 02:01.30 | spldart | :p |
| 02:01.32 | wegstar | :( |
| 02:01.33 | JeffM2501 | was sniped |
| 02:01.55 | JeffM2501 | had that happen to an opencombat one I wanted too :( |
| 02:02.25 | wegstar | ah |
| 02:02.33 | wegstar | ...clic on one of the links there |
| 02:02.42 | wegstar | I think its an april fools joke :P |
| 02:02.48 | JeffM2501 | they are filled with viruses |
| 02:03.17 | wegstar | :) |
| 02:03.24 | cosmos | redsoxfan90 stole the domain |
| 02:03.34 | wegstar | heh |
| 02:03.43 | cosmos | if that actually did happen...heh |
| 02:03.49 | cosmos | hello FBI |
| 02:04.59 | JeffM2501 | thre is like a 30 day grace period |
| 02:05.12 | Noodleman | http://www.homestarrunner.com/ |
| 02:06.36 | wegstar | oh, that... |
| 02:08.15 | brlcad | mm.. i think i just ordered enough for four |
| 02:09.08 | cosmos | these politicians... some kids caught e coli possibly from a petting zoo. fl republicans want all animals in zoos and roadside shows put to death for public safety |
| 02:09.36 | spldart | Link :/ |
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| 02:10.03 | cosmos | its on radio now i listen to news radio at work |
| 02:10.56 | spldart | Did you see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3360 cosmos? |
| 02:11.27 | cosmos | no |
| 02:11.44 | cosmos | oh wait yeah |
| 02:11.46 | spldart | They mention you by name so i thought you might want ot see |
| 02:11.49 | spldart | oh ok |
| 02:11.53 | cosmos | i have to ask rc cola what she meant |
| 02:12.19 | cosmos | oh that guy |
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| 02:12.32 | cosmos | i logged on and he was fighting with silverfox. it was a bad day so i just tossed him |
| 02:12.57 | spldart | ic |
| 02:13.17 | cosmos | silver is also my #2 heh. he hosts the servers when i cant etc |
| 02:13.43 | cosmos | im sure it was some stupid thing that escalated |
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| 02:17.07 | wegstar | hi lan56 |
| 02:17.13 | wegstar | ~frag lan56 |
| 02:17.16 | ibot | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at lan56 |
| 02:21.18 | spldart | OMG!!!! |
| 02:21.35 | spldart | Is that insane sweet map you made up somewhere JeffM?!?!?! |
| 02:21.41 | Noodleman | ZOMGWTFLMOALOLBBQ |
| 02:21.47 | brlcad | insanely sweet? |
| 02:22.05 | brlcad | Noodleman: :) |
| 02:22.16 | brlcad | hopefully 10 minutes to noodleage |
| 02:22.25 | Noodleman | what kind of noodles? |
| 02:22.56 | JeffM2501 | it's just the test I've been using while working on the model tool and editor stuff |
| 02:24.03 | JeffM2501 | sadly the bzflag format makes it a bit large |
| 02:24.06 | JeffM2501 | 9.7 megs |
| 02:24.38 | JeffM2501 | not counting the 84 megs of textures it downloads |
| 02:28.34 | LordSarpedon | Yes, little large |
| 02:29.05 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/src/openGL.cpp: more GL tools for mesh drawing |
| 02:30.45 | spldart | Is it hosted anywhere I can play it or do I have to just download and wander aorund on my test server |
| 02:31.28 | JeffM2501 | I had a server up today |
| 02:31.32 | JeffM2501 | but had to take it down |
| 02:31.37 | spldart | ah |
| 02:31.40 | spldart | bummer |
| 02:31.43 | JeffM2501 | it zips up well |
| 02:31.46 | JeffM2501 | 40k |
| 02:32.13 | spldart | I'm going to get my test server up |
| 02:32.23 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 02:34.07 | spldart | wait... I'm getting april fooled aren't I :squint: |
| 02:34.08 | LordSarpedon | perhaps the bzflag formaty should use zip |
| 02:34.15 | spldart | 41 K |
| 02:34.25 | LordSarpedon | yes, odd indeed |
| 02:34.50 | JeffM2501 | they are gziped as an option on download |
| 02:34.58 | JeffM2501 | a lot of the text is the same |
| 02:35.00 | JeffM2501 | like "box" |
| 02:35.03 | JeffM2501 | so it compreses well |
| 02:35.09 | LordSarpedon | oh i see |
| 02:35.29 | lan56 | wegstar: hey how is it going? |
| 02:35.38 | JeffM2501 | there are only like what 30-40 real words in the format |
| 02:35.42 | wegstar | fine :) |
| 02:36.24 | spldart | ah crap |
| 02:36.31 | spldart | a billion invalid object types |
| 02:37.23 | brlcad | yay, foodage |
| 02:37.51 | JeffM2501 | a billion? |
| 02:37.51 | spldart | yep... At least I started to figure it out before I ran it |
| 02:37.53 | spldart | hehehe |
| 02:37.54 | JeffM2501 | what object? |
| 02:38.03 | spldart | the 'what day is it' object |
| 02:38.04 | spldart | lol |
| 02:38.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah your client dosn't support that object |
| 02:38.13 | JeffM2501 | it's new |
| 02:38.23 | spldart | And available today only |
| 02:38.24 | spldart | hehe |
| 02:38.32 | JeffM2501 | well it dosn't build on 98 |
| 02:38.39 | spldart | Or xp pro :p |
| 02:38.42 | JeffM2501 | cus it uses some XP framework |
| 02:38.52 | JeffM2501 | from the new .net 2k5 stuff |
| 02:39.04 | spldart | LOLOL |
| 02:39.41 | spldart | I guess I need to goto windows update and pick up the new 4/1/05 updates |
| 02:40.12 | JeffM2501 | they need 4 gigs of ram |
| 02:40.24 | spldart | Which is cheap right now I hear |
| 02:40.31 | *** join/#bzflag gvdm (~gvdm@210-246-16-90.paradise.net.nz) |
| 02:40.36 | JeffM2501 | yeah you can get 4 gigs for under 400 |
| 02:43.15 | spldart | How do I start the private chat boxes with one user? |
| 02:43.35 | brlcad | sheesh, talk about skimping on the lobster |
| 02:43.47 | lan56 | spldart, /msg WHOEVER WHATEVER |
| 02:43.58 | spldart | but does that do a breakout box? |
| 02:44.04 | lan56 | yes |
| 02:44.09 | lan56 | in bzflag? |
| 02:44.15 | lan56 | in IRC it does |
| 02:44.17 | spldart | in here |
| 02:44.19 | lan56 | yes |
| 02:44.26 | brlcad | lan56: in irc, it depends on your client |
| 02:44.35 | brlcad | spldart: /query user |
| 02:44.49 | brlcad | that should form a dedicated session/window |
| 02:44.52 | spldart | ah |
| 02:44.55 | lan56 | darn, I never get things right |
| 02:44.56 | spldart | that's what I wanted |
| 02:45.24 | brlcad | you were close :) |
| 02:45.58 | brlcad | he's using beloved ircle, though, iirc which doesn't open the new windows until you query |
| 02:46.24 | lan56 | close is not correct |
| 02:46.35 | lan56 | :) |
| 02:47.25 | spldart | I are teh using visual irc 2.0 |
| 02:48.00 | LordSarpedon | woot gotr a working build now for the coding |
| 02:48.04 | brlcad | ahh, so even worse |
| 02:49.14 | spldart | woah... is secretplace up? |
| 02:50.21 | spldart | Oh.. they are playing handicap again |
| 02:50.32 | spldart | I miss my beloved spiralzone |
| 02:54.16 | wegstar | :) |
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| 02:58.00 | lan56 | http://www.mrknowitall.com/jokes/redneck_dictionary.htm heh |
| 02:58.57 | brlcad | sounds like some of my family |
| 03:00.13 | LordSarpedon | hey...how are there timestamps on MsgPlayerUpdate (Line 3683 bzfs.cxx) |
| 03:00.19 | LordSarpedon | I didn't think time was synchronized yet |
| 03:01.20 | orchid | ~emulate stewie |
| 03:01.21 | ibot | Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that. |
| 03:01.31 | brlcad | hah! |
| 03:01.34 | brlcad | that's great =) |
| 03:01.45 | brlcad | ~emulate stewie |
| 03:01.46 | ibot | No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. |
| 03:01.51 | brlcad | heheh |
| 03:01.57 | orchid | ~emulate bender |
| 03:01.58 | ibot | Well I don't have anything else planned for today, let's get drunk! |
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| 03:02.22 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 03:03.51 | LordSarpedon | ~emulate Jeff |
| 03:03.59 | LordSarpedon | Too bad |
| 03:05.27 | LordSarpedon | ~emulate fry |
| 03:06.47 | orchid | ~literal emulat |
| 03:06.49 | orchid | ~literal emulate |
| 03:07.13 | brlcad | ibot: sup g? |
| 03:07.14 | ibot | nuthin, yous? |
| 03:07.42 | blast007 | ~literal emulate stewie |
| 03:07.44 | ibot | "emulate stewie" is "<reply> Yes, I rather like this God fellow. He's very theatrical, you know, a pestilence here, a plague there. Omnipotence. Gotta get me some of that. || <reply> No Sprinkles. For every sprinkle I find, I shall kill you. || <reply> Ha ha. Oh, this is so good it just HAS to be fattening. || <reply> Damn you, broccoli. || <reply> I come bearing ... |
| 03:08.16 | spldart | woah... There is every xyz sportchic imaginable on secretplace |
| 03:08.25 | brlcad | mm.. i wonder how many ... there are |
| 03:08.38 | brlcad | stewie has some of the best quotes in animated short comedy :) |
| 03:08.45 | blast007 | :) |
| 03:09.26 | spldart | ~emulate bart |
| 03:09.34 | spldart | ~emulat homer |
| 03:09.48 | spldart | ~emulate homer |
| 03:09.49 | ibot | mmmmmmmmm Donuts |
| 03:09.57 | JeffM2501 | it's a factoid |
| 03:10.05 | JeffM2501 | it would have to be set up |
| 03:10.08 | spldart | No beer and not tv make homer something something |
| 03:13.00 | brlcad | ~emulate stewie |
| 03:13.02 | ibot | I come bearing a gift. I'll give you a hint. It's in my diaper, and it's not a toaster. |
| 03:13.09 | brlcad | hehe |
| 03:13.13 | brlcad | he cracks me up |
| 03:33.45 | wegstar | err... |
| 03:42.36 | spldart | grr |
| 03:42.54 | spldart | I'm just not good enough for a fast paced multitank ctf |
| 03:43.11 | spldart | to hard to avoid killing a teamate when everyone is charging into the thicket |
| 03:43.36 | spldart | Almost returned a flag though |
| 03:44.22 | spldart | was playing hepcat |
| 03:47.41 | spldart | It's quiet in here :( |
| 03:54.47 | LordSarpedon | Indeed |
| 03:57.20 | spldart | oooOOOooo Scored a flag on viper :-D |
| 03:57.46 | spldart | Didn't kill any teamates ;) |
| 04:01.22 | wegstar | hehe.. blew you up couple of times :P |
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| 04:19.30 | LordSarpedon | how do i check the debug messages? |
| 04:21.09 | brlcad | they'll print to stdout from the server |
| 04:21.14 | brlcad | run the server with -d -d -d |
| 04:21.22 | LordSarpedon | all three hmmm? |
| 04:21.27 | blast007 | or -ddd |
| 04:21.35 | LordSarpedon | is it needed to have --enable-debug in configure? |
| 04:21.36 | brlcad | three to get levels 1 2 and 3 debug messages |
| 04:21.41 | brlcad | there are 4 debug levels |
| 04:21.56 | brlcad | the 4th is lower level networking |
| 04:23.09 | brlcad | unrelated to --enable-debug |
| 04:23.22 | brlcad | enable-debug deals with adding -g to the compile line for debugger support |
| 04:23.46 | LordSarpedon | i did enable-debug and it started to treat warnings as errors...not good for compiling |
| 04:24.47 | spldart | did some louman islands |
| 04:24.50 | spldart | you blew me upt here too |
| 04:25.09 | spldart | I've got some stuff down but other stuff I don't |
| 04:25.39 | spldart | Judging where the round will be when it gets to that other tank which has just jumped... That's still a problem for me |
| 04:26.03 | spldart | And I'm still fighting the urge to jump to much |
| 04:26.04 | spldart | heh |
| 04:26.23 | blast007 | :) |
| 04:26.29 | spldart | Most everybody else get's lined up and pops another tank that resorted to jumping |
| 04:26.40 | spldart | I'm only getting the kill that way 60% of the time |
| 04:32.04 | spldart | can bzadmin play nice with bzfs on the same machine? |
| 04:32.50 | DTRemenak | yes |
| 04:33.02 | spldart | Hrm.... |
| 04:33.55 | spldart | And how do you get an app in a dox box to dump into a log again? |
| 04:34.04 | spldart | dox = dos |
| 04:44.37 | spldart | NM got it |
| 04:49.03 | spldart | Yah know.... |
| 04:49.46 | spldart | I've noticed that sometimes in Bridges and sometimes in Islands that the observer controls are fubar. It's like I'm riding a dome ove the map and I can't get normal control of my view :confused |
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| 04:56.54 | spldart | But often If I restart then it corrects itself |
| 04:57.05 | spldart | Not really much of a problem |
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| 05:02.25 | orchid | spldart: dont worry, I cant even remember the roaming controls now, so I drive with or track people |
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| 05:03.49 | spldart | kew |
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| 05:05.43 | spldart | I guess it's so quiet cuz either people are doing some serious tanking or they have a social life and are out partying :( |
| 05:07.19 | BIYA | or there making maps |
| 05:07.23 | BIYA | ;) |
| 05:08.10 | spldart | This is an automatically generated Delivery Status Notification. |
| 05:08.11 | spldart | THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY. |
| 05:08.11 | spldart | YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE. |
| 05:08.11 | spldart | Delivery to the following recipients has been delayed. |
| 05:08.11 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:08.11 | spldart | Hey guy... I was just checking my hotmail and found an automated message that says my message to you has been delayed :mad: |
| 05:08.45 | BIYA | I know.. I got them |
| 05:11.06 | spldart | So how goes you map making endeavor |
| 05:11.30 | BIYA | Frustrating |
| 05:11.35 | spldart | IC :( |
| 05:16.29 | BIYA | Now I got Jeff telling me that they are gonna stop making windows builds |
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| 05:21.57 | BIYA | nvm about what jeff said |
| 05:24.35 | JeffM2501 | we are |
| 05:24.42 | JeffM2501 | cvs dosnt even build anymore |
| 05:24.45 | BIYA | k |
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| 05:33.50 | cosmos | make it a linux only game! |
| 05:35.29 | BIYA | ~bzfquery DTRemenak.bakadigital.com:6001 |
| 05:36.19 | cosmos | ~hepcat |
| 05:36.40 | BIYA | lol |
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| 05:36.50 | BIYA | long string |
| 05:36.54 | cosmos | not bad since its registered only for hepcat now |
| 05:40.42 | orange | yay |
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| 06:03.01 | jpa- | mornign |
| 06:03.43 | jh` | i take it u must be from europe |
| 06:04.18 | sgk284 | morning jpa |
| 06:05.00 | jpa- | hi sgk284 <3 |
| 06:05.05 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 06:05.22 | sgk284 | always good to get some finnish love <3 |
| 06:05.25 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 06:05.29 | jh` | finnish? |
| 06:05.35 | jh` | im finnish also |
| 06:05.42 | jpa- | i saw your host |
| 06:05.47 | jpa- | :P |
| 06:06.56 | jpa- | sgk284: that is just because we don't have aol in finland, and that is all you can use |
| 06:07.02 | jh` | lol |
| 06:07.19 | jh` | so u must know romy then |
| 06:07.40 | jpa- | actually, no |
| 06:07.45 | jh` | okay |
| 06:07.45 | jpa- | atleast not by that name |
| 06:08.00 | sgk284 | jpa, lol |
| 06:08.03 | jh` | well just assuming that u are a player if u come here |
| 06:08.20 | spldart | Night all |
| 06:08.23 | *** part/#bzflag spldart (~spldart@cpe-67-10-210-195.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 06:08.23 | sgk284 | jh', the devs hang out in here too |
| 06:08.31 | jh` | yep i know |
| 06:08.42 | jpa- | and jpa hangs out here as a server admin |
| 06:08.44 | Aribeth_away | JeffM2501 ping |
| 06:09.06 | jh` | and i dont hang at all |
| 06:09.35 | jh` | bzflag server admin? |
| 06:09.55 | JeffM2501 | pong |
| 06:09.58 | Aribeth_away | OMG |
| 06:10.08 | Aribeth_away | ROFLMAO |
| 06:10.21 | jpa- | jh`: yup |
| 06:10.32 | JeffM2501 | were you actualy on the floor? |
| 06:11.04 | Aribeth_away | just about, i just figured out i've been had by your map |
| 06:11.04 | bryjen | infected by sgk284's AOL |
| 06:11.10 | sgk284 | hahaha |
| 06:11.59 | Aribeth_away | the map on bzbb that says what is today? |
| 06:12.00 | JeffM2501 | you need a new version |
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| 06:12.07 | JeffM2501 | to have the "what day is it" object :) |
| 06:12.07 | stevek_ | this a better host? |
| 06:12.13 | sgk284 | :) |
| 06:12.33 | Aribeth_away | nice work Jeff |
| 06:12.38 | jpa- | stevek_: we all know you use aol anyway |
| 06:12.54 | sgk284 | heh yea i do and i'm proud of it ;) |
| 06:13.12 | JeffM2501 | that is a real map |
| 06:13.44 | Aribeth_away | it looks like part of louman's island hopping map |
| 06:14.04 | JeffM2501 | the top is |
| 06:14.11 | JeffM2501 | but I mean the screenshot |
| 06:14.35 | Aribeth_away | i saw the screenshot |
| 06:14.59 | sgk284 | omg jeff, that map of armgedon is amazing |
| 06:15.59 | JeffM2501 | UT2k4 map |
| 06:16.16 | Aribeth_away | ahh |
| 06:16.46 | Aribeth_away | or bzflag 2008 |
| 06:16.55 | JeffM2501 | 2014 |
| 06:17.00 | Aribeth_away | hehehe |
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| 06:17.20 | Aribeth_away | very good april fools |
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| 06:31.45 | BinarySpike | I was wondering how to use a meshbox when creating a map??? |
| 06:32.28 | BinarySpike | (could you point me to a map or give me an example right here???) |
| 06:33.08 | jpa- | just like a normal box? |
| 06:33.27 | jpa- | not exactly what you want, but http://www.kapsi.fi/~jpa/stuff/bzw/ |
| 06:33.58 | BinarySpike | not a normal box, a meshbox (for the water physics driver for water...)... thanks for the link. |
| 06:35.13 | jpa- | meshbox is just like a normal box |
| 06:35.20 | jpa- | except it supports some new features |
| 06:35.25 | BinarySpike | Oh!!! I didn't know that you could use "position" and "size" |
| 06:36.08 | BinarySpike | I've been looking all over for an explanation of some of the 2.0 features (or the features that replaced the features on 2.0) |
| 06:37.44 | jpa- | there is not much explanation about them anywhere |
| 06:37.50 | jpa- | best is the bzw manual page |
| 06:37.59 | jpa- | and reading other's maps |
| 06:38.12 | BinarySpike | Yes, but it doesn't say you can use size or position in meshbox. |
| 06:38.50 | BinarySpike | ... |
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| 06:39.27 | BinarySpike | Whoa!!! I got messed up... |
| 06:39.34 | BinarySpike | (IRC went crazy on me...) |
| 06:39.59 | BinarySpike | Ok, I have everything I need so I'll talk to you later... |
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| 06:40.16 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: cvs builds for me |
| 06:40.39 | JeffM2501 | I know :) |
| 06:40.44 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 06:40.52 | DTRemenak | just spreading FUD huh? ;) |
| 06:41.32 | DTRemenak | always a good thing for today |
| 06:42.54 | jpa- | it is tomorrow already |
| 06:43.10 | jpa- | i mean, the day after april if you mean that |
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| 06:50.56 | BinarySpike | One last question... the bzw man says "-set _tankSpeed 36 |
| 06:50.56 | BinarySpike | -j +r -ms 3 |
| 06:50.56 | BinarySpike | +f GM{5} +f SW{5} |
| 06:51.18 | BinarySpike | (Let me get this next post) |
| 06:52.37 | BinarySpike | What does "-j" "+r" "-ms 3" mean??? and I guess +f GM{5} can be changed to any weapon and a number of how many there are??? |
| 06:55.45 | jpa- | those are server params, see bzfs manual page |
| 06:56.04 | lan56 | or do "bzfs -help" |
| 06:56.24 | jpa- | lan56: that doesn't help much |
| 06:56.34 | jpa- | it just lists the options, does not explain them |
| 06:56.45 | lan56 | yes it does explain them |
| 06:56.52 | lan56 | --help doesn't |
| 06:56.57 | lan56 | but one dash does |
| 06:57.02 | jpa- | hm |
| 06:57.11 | jpa- | true :) |
| 06:57.15 | lan56 | :) |
| 06:58.20 | BinarySpike | Ok, I was testing something in fullscreen so I just read this.... |
| 06:58.52 | BinarySpike | Ok, um what (or how do I do) "bzfs -help" |
| 06:58.54 | BinarySpike | ? |
| 06:59.04 | jpa- | in console? |
| 06:59.15 | jpa- | xterm or something like that? |
| 06:59.22 | BinarySpike | Ok, well I'm running Mac os X so it would be terminal |
| 06:59.35 | BinarySpike | (only if it installed a man in my man pages) |
| 07:01.09 | lan56 | just change to the directory of BZFS, and enter that line |
| 07:01.17 | jpa- | lan56: bah |
| 07:01.26 | lan56 | I knew I am wrong |
| 07:01.27 | jpa- | lan56: i think macos x has path :) |
| 07:01.33 | BinarySpike | Way ahead of you guys! |
| 07:01.41 | jpa- | unlike some evil windows |
| 07:02.17 | BinarySpike | bzfs -help |
| 07:02.32 | BinarySpike | Oops, wrong window :blush: |
| 07:04.06 | lan56 | who else do you have back there? :) |
| 07:04.38 | BinarySpike | Only me, I have to work with terminal alot with CVS on my game. |
| 07:05.15 | BinarySpike | Ohhhhh!!!! terminal isn't working... it says bzfs: Command not found |
| 07:05.25 | BinarySpike | I |
| 07:05.38 | BinarySpike | I'll try something different |
| 07:05.41 | SportChick | lan56: ty for the heads up... all is ok tho - so far |
| 07:06.15 | lan56 | SportChick, ahh good to hear. np |
| 07:06.19 | BinarySpike | SportChick = DanLab??? |
| 07:06.27 | SportChick | BinarySpike: ?? |
| 07:06.41 | BinarySpike | Are you DanLab??? |
| 07:07.16 | SportChick | no |
| 07:07.28 | BinarySpike | (Danlab is a macintosh shareware game developer that I know that talks (types) just like you) |
| 07:07.36 | SportChick | I am sportchick |
| 07:07.45 | SportChick | (the real one) |
| 07:08.24 | BinarySpike | YOWZA!!! |
| 07:09.03 | BinarySpike | Instead of going to the directory like unix's 'cd' command I just placed the acual path name into terminal and typed -help |
| 07:09.08 | BinarySpike | YOWZA!!! |
| 07:09.13 | SportChick | I want my bzbb! |
| 07:09.22 | lan56 | heh |
| 07:09.42 | lan56 | bzbb is up for sale, didn't you hear? |
| 07:10.16 | BinarySpike | What's bzbb??? |
| 07:10.22 | lan56 | bzbb.bzflag.org |
| 07:10.27 | lan56 | it was a message boar |
| 07:10.29 | lan56 | *board |
| 07:10.33 | lan56 | now its being sold |
| 07:10.38 | BinarySpike | Why??? |
| 07:10.40 | JeffM2501 | to the highest bidder |
| 07:11.00 | BinarySpike | Why??? |
| 07:11.07 | lan56 | beats me, probably someone else knows tho |
| 07:11.12 | JeffM2501 | tim didn't pay it |
| 07:11.27 | sgk284 | SportChick, still there? |
| 07:11.40 | BinarySpike | You mean tim forgot to pay the electric bill on bzbb. |
| 07:11.51 | JeffM2501 | domain renewal |
| 07:12.20 | BinarySpike | Ah!!! I found a domain name registry that costs $9 a year (plus tax) |
| 07:12.38 | JeffM2501 | wasn't a money thing |
| 07:12.53 | JeffM2501 | was a time thing |
| 07:12.53 | BinarySpike | Oh! waited untill too late? |
| 07:13.15 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's tied to the date |
| 07:13.45 | BinarySpike | Oh, I would pay about three months early... |
| 07:14.09 | JeffM2501 | well he didn't |
| 07:14.12 | sgk284 | tim is pretty sloppy with that stuff |
| 07:14.27 | sgk284 | applies to releases too ;) |
| 07:15.00 | lan56 | ~shoot sgk284 |
| 07:15.02 | ibot | ACTION shoots sgk284 in the eye with a cork gun! |
| 07:15.07 | lan56 | gotcha |
| 07:15.08 | lan56 | :) |
| 07:15.11 | sgk284 | lan, how goes it? |
| 07:15.32 | lan56 | its going great, what about you? |
| 07:15.40 | sgk284 | pretty good :) |
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| 07:16.03 | sgk284 | recently started a my co-op for my university:) it is awesome |
| 07:16.21 | BinarySpike | Ok, I have another question... if I use -passwd can't people download then hack my server??? |
| 07:16.40 | sgk284 | BinarySpike, of course |
| 07:16.50 | sgk284 | no |
| 07:17.04 | BinarySpike | So I use -passdb? |
| 07:17.08 | sgk284 | ? |
| 07:17.13 | sgk284 | use global authentication |
| 07:17.16 | JeffM2501 | use global authenticaon |
| 07:17.21 | JeffM2501 | thru the bzbb |
| 07:17.26 | sgk284 | thru the bzbb |
| 07:17.29 | sgk284 | ;) |
| 07:17.29 | lan56 | it was sold remember |
| 07:17.31 | lan56 | he can't |
| 07:17.36 | BinarySpike | "-passdb: file to read for user passwords" |
| 07:17.40 | sgk284 | omg you're right! whay are we gonna do? |
| 07:17.50 | sgk284 | BinarySpike, yea that is depreciated |
| 07:17.59 | BinarySpike | ok! |
| 07:18.05 | sgk284 | there are some good server wiki's |
| 07:18.05 | JeffM2501 | global auth is best |
| 07:18.07 | JeffM2501 | use it |
| 07:18.10 | sgk284 | check bzfalg.org |
| 07:18.14 | sgk284 | bzflag.org |
| 07:18.29 | sgk284 | iirc lan wrote them so yell at him if they dont suffice |
| 07:18.34 | sgk284 | ~lan56++ |
| 07:18.40 | lan56 | :)))))) |
| 07:19.33 | BinarySpike | if I use -sb and have a zone where people can re-spawn at will the start at the y coordinates (zone...position 0 0 10) |
| 07:19.36 | BinarySpike | ? |
| 07:20.18 | sgk284 | i believe it goes x y z |
| 07:21.42 | BinarySpike | Well up is y! (in 3D so up would be y but if I put box...position 0 10 5 the box is 5 off ground and 10 width) |
| 07:22.52 | BinarySpike | but, anyway, would -sb make the last of zone...position 0 0 1 make your ship be in air??? |
| 07:24.06 | jpa- | z is up |
| 07:24.16 | BinarySpike | Yes, in bzflag... |
| 07:26.17 | BinarySpike | Oh! never mind I have to get to bed... |
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| 08:59.03 | jomojo_ | do you have to register your correct email address for global login |
| 08:59.28 | DTRemenak | it needs to be valid, or else you can't activate the account |
| 08:59.44 | DTRemenak | that prevents bots from signing up for hundreds of accounts |
| 09:03.03 | jomojo_ | right at this point global registration is very clumsy and not to easy for noobs to manuever |
| 09:03.29 | jomojo_ | it should be made much easier, i have spent the last 45 minutes walking a couple of players through so they can play on hepcat |
| 09:04.13 | jomojo_ | DTRemenak: do you know of someone who can put a link by the download page to register or bzflag homepage |
| 09:05.00 | DTRemenak | jomojo_: yes. ask Tim or purple_cow. I think any of the devs can, but I've never done it. |
| 09:05.24 | jomojo_ | well i have suggested to tim both in email and here no response |
| 09:05.36 | jomojo_ | but i think only tim or purple can |
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| 11:30.01 | eva-00 | hello |
| 11:30.20 | eva-00 | I've got a problem... who can help me ? who speak french ? |
| 11:30.47 | ruskie | not me |
| 11:31.00 | eva-00 | ah ok |
| 11:31.01 | ruskie | but you could try broken english |
| 11:31.33 | eva-00 | yes |
| 11:32.51 | [dmp] | hehe |
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| 11:35.09 | eva-00 | sorry...my problem is...when I want to going on planet mofo's server, I've got this message : error on md5.Rmoving offending file |
| 11:35.19 | eva-00 | ... |
| 11:35.25 | ruskie | never heard that one |
| 11:35.45 | eva-00 | ah.... |
| 11:35.48 | Mr_Molez | sounds like it aint downloading the map right |
| 11:35.49 | eva-00 | :p |
| 11:36.46 | eva-00 | euh |
| 11:37.16 | eva-00 | ^_^ dont understand :p |
| 11:38.37 | Mr_Molez | neither do i ;) |
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| 11:40.34 | eva-00 | ok I'm going good bye |
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| 14:00.12 | Dew_ | Hi |
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| 14:01.27 | |zongo| | 'lo |
| 14:02.13 | Dew_ | |zongo| : Hi |
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| 14:34.03 | bz1016 | hey |
| 14:34.16 | bz1016 | any idea why my server isn't showing up with more people on the server listing? |
| 14:37.42 | bz1016 | also, how could I change the speed and length of travel of bullet |
| 14:37.42 | bz1016 | s |
| 14:40.57 | spldart | How do you mean more people? Is there more on the server than the server list indicates? |
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| 14:42.15 | spldart | And have you tried /set _shotRange and /set _shotSpeed ? |
| 14:43.05 | spldart | Question to all. Is there a freeware proggie out there that can convert my bz .png's to .bmp's in a batch mode? |
| 14:43.07 | bz1016 | ah, no I haven't |
| 14:43.20 | bz1016 | yes, there are more people in my server than 0 |
| 14:43.25 | spldart | hrm |
| 14:43.33 | spldart | what is the server exact addy? |
| 14:43.40 | ruskie | spldart, what's freeware... I know what free is... as in speech and beer... but freeware I think I haven't heard that word in ages |
| 14:44.14 | bz1016 | cabbage.servegame.org:5154 =) |
| 14:44.18 | spldart | I know there is still a little freeware out there :( |
| 14:44.24 | spldart | Ah |
| 14:44.33 | spldart | Now I remember you bz1016 :) |
| 14:44.41 | bz1016 | heh |
| 14:44.44 | spldart | ~bzfquery cabbage.servegame.org |
| 14:46.05 | spldart | yet the server list does indeed show you as 0 users :( |
| 14:46.09 | spldart | I don't know if I can help |
| 14:46.30 | bz1016 | doh =( |
| 14:46.33 | spldart | To my query to all.... Freeware options excluding all the need that .net crap :( |
| 14:46.59 | spldart | I are not going to install net framework on this machine |
| 14:49.02 | spldart | Wait a bit and I'm sure a guru will wander through that can help. |
| 14:49.43 | bz1016 | mk |
| 14:50.24 | spldart | grr. found a freeware batch converter but it doesn't support .png grr |
| 14:51.31 | ruskie | spldart, what os you using? |
| 14:52.13 | trepan | spldart: pngtopnm FILE | ppmtobmp > OUT |
| 14:56.01 | bzflagwiz | spldart: try http://www.irfanview.com/ |
| 14:56.14 | spldart | xp |
| 14:56.46 | spldart | more detail trepan |
| 14:57.49 | trepan | one sec, i'll just get you a zip |
| 14:58.03 | spldart | ic |
| 14:58.04 | trepan | you want the ones from data/? |
| 14:58.17 | spldart | I can put the png's anywhere |
| 14:58.22 | trepan | or a general conversion solution? |
| 14:58.41 | spldart | I wish to take a series of screenshots in fast successsi9on |
| 14:58.46 | spldart | convert the to .bmp |
| 14:58.47 | bzflagwiz | Irfanview is a free (for non Commercial use) graphics converter for all flavors of Windows. Supports lots of formats (iincluding BMP and PNG) and has dragndrop |
| 14:58.54 | spldart | and string them together to form an avi |
| 14:59.20 | spldart | I got that one downloaded bzflagwiz.... Just now from your link... Thanks |
| 14:59.47 | spldart | Looks pretty featured |
| 15:00.46 | spldart | How about something easy. Like I can make a dir C:images |
| 15:00.56 | spldart | all the .png's will be there |
| 15:01.03 | bzflagwiz | For conversion to AVI, you can try the GIMP http://www.gimp.org |
| 15:01.20 | trepan | or skip all that, and use a screen capture utility |
| 15:01.23 | spldart | I found a proggie called pjbmptoavi |
| 15:01.26 | trepan | something like SnagIt |
| 15:01.44 | spldart | I checked into and tried some of that but didn't have much luck getting it to work |
| 15:01.49 | bzflagwiz | I haven't kept up with development on GIMP though, you MIGHT require a plugin (free also) called GAP to make the avi |
| 15:02.17 | bzflagwiz | There also might be a program called BMP2AVI that will make your avi for you |
| 15:02.20 | spldart | What was your thought with the pngtopnnm FILE etc etc |
| 15:02.37 | spldart | I know but it wants money to be activated |
| 15:02.40 | spldart | :( |
| 15:03.17 | trepan | http://www.dirfile.com/freeware/video-capture.htm , one of 'em should do |
| 15:04.11 | bzflagwiz | Which program wants money? |
| 15:05.41 | spldart | bmp2avi requires an online registrationg |
| 15:05.50 | ruskie | since when? |
| 15:05.52 | spldart | I got 2 versions of it |
| 15:06.05 | bzflagwiz | hrm - wasn't aware of that :( |
| 15:06.14 | bzflagwiz | I used to use it all the time |
| 15:06.29 | spldart | yep.. Just checked it wont let me start... It pops up a registration box |
| 15:06.31 | ruskie | <-- used bmp2avi a few times and it was always free |
| 15:07.40 | spldart | crap.. The first capture proggie I tried promptly crashed :( |
| 15:08.02 | spldart | Is there a way to batch convert .png to .bmp in windows own utilities? |
| 15:08.44 | bzflagwiz | If you want to make mpeg animations, you can try TMPGEnc http://www.tmpgenc.net/e_main.html - it used to have a free version, think it still does |
| 15:08.58 | spldart | I use TMPGenc all the time |
| 15:11.25 | bzflagwiz | So you gonna use that (tmpgenc) to make your anims? It will do bmp to mpeg1. |
| 15:12.01 | spldart | I can.. But I still need to convert the png to bmp since tmpgenc doesn't do png |
| 15:12.16 | spldart | Yeah. I use Tmpgenc to edit recordings I make all the time |
| 15:12.27 | spldart | that and virtualdub |
| 15:17.32 | trepan | http://pmt.sourceforge.net/bmp2png/ |
| 15:18.00 | trepan | looks like it takes a list of files... prebuilt bins linked on that page |
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| 15:22.29 | spldart | I'm going to try to make that bmp2png thing work |
| 15:22.30 | spldart | thanks |
| 15:22.39 | spldart | It's simple no spyware and stuff |
| 15:26.01 | wegstar | morning all |
| 15:26.22 | bzflagwiz | morning |
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| 15:26.50 | Mr_Molez | cbg 1 v 1 ? |
| 15:26.59 | CBG | sure |
| 15:27.03 | Mr_Molez | yay |
| 15:27.04 | CBG | cya there |
| 15:27.09 | Mr_Molez | already there lol |
| 15:28.34 | spldart | a wooty woot |
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| 15:28.55 | spldart | got a batch convert on png2avi in dos... |
| 15:29.01 | orchid | !weather cyyz |
| 15:29.02 | guu | orchid: The current temperature in Toronto-Pearson International, Ontario is 36ฐF (10:00 AM EST on April 02, 2005). Conditions: Light Rain Snow Showers. Humidity: 93%. Dew Point: 34ฐF. Pressure: 29.73 in (1007 hPa). Visibility: 6.0 miles (9.7 kilometers). UV: 2 out of 16 |
| 15:29.31 | orchid | spldart: http://www.imagemagick.org/ runs on windows too |
| 15:34.22 | spldart | OK :-D |
| 15:35.06 | spldart | First test of capture sceenshot sequence, convert to bmp, assemble to avi is now complete and works... Not to find a busy server and observer capture :) |
| 15:35.16 | spldart | Thanks for all the help guys :D |
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| 15:44.20 | spldart | grr |
| 15:44.34 | spldart | got 2 seconds into louman's island map and my screen froze |
| 15:44.44 | spldart | hadn't tried to capture anything yet |
| 15:45.18 | spldart | windows was still working fine underneath though. I managed to blindly restart properly |
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| 15:50.20 | spldart | What do you think? http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/bz.avi I know I can turn off the console but I just thought it might be intersting to see the screeshot count and speed |
| 15:50.25 | spldart | You will need divx |
| 15:56.29 | CBG | There is a bug on 1vs1 server |
| 15:56.53 | CBG | I was just playing Molez and he keeps getting signed off the server half way through a match... |
| 15:57.15 | Birdie | is the server down now? |
| 15:57.19 | CBG | no |
| 15:57.23 | CBG | its fine |
| 15:57.32 | CBG | it just keeps making him sign off |
| 15:57.39 | Birdie | hm |
| 15:57.41 | CBG | I dont know why or how or what it says |
| 15:57.46 | CBG | you will have to ask him that |
| 15:57.50 | Mr_Molez | . |
| 15:57.53 | Mr_Molez | it aint signing off |
| 15:57.56 | Mr_Molez | it just closes |
| 15:57.57 | CBG | nthen what? |
| 15:58.03 | CBG | nthe server or client? |
| 15:58.05 | Mr_Molez | whole of bzflag |
| 15:58.07 | Mr_Molez | well |
| 15:58.11 | Mr_Molez | it never has done it on ducati |
| 15:58.12 | CBG | only on that server? |
| 15:58.15 | Mr_Molez | and im on there more than 1 v 1 |
| 15:58.21 | Mr_Molez | so it must be somat to do with server |
| 15:58.29 | CBG | yeah.... odd. |
| 15:58.41 | CBG | and i was kicking ya ass 6-2 too :( |
| 15:59.46 | |zongo| | i will /superkill it |
| 15:59.52 | |zongo| | it should work |
| 16:02.56 | CBG | Also, where is the 1vs1 server located? |
| 16:03.12 | CBG | Most of the time I play there, I get lag over 1000. Im in the UK. |
| 16:05.07 | Birdie | germany |
| 16:05.08 | Birdie | your lag should be good.. |
| 16:05.21 | CBG | Then I should have less lag then the Americans... |
| 16:05.38 | CBG | Odd... Maybe that is something else you guys can look into... :D |
| 16:06.00 | |zongo| | bbl all |
| 16:06.15 | Birdie | maybe look to yourself |
| 16:06.19 | Birdie | it can be your fault to |
| 16:08.31 | Mr_Molez | im in the uk |
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| 16:08.34 | Mr_Molez | my lag is fine |
| 16:08.41 | Mr_Molez | :) |
| 16:09.55 | Birdie | so cbg, its your fault |
| 16:10.06 | CBG | :D lol. |
| 16:10.39 | CBG | what can I do about it? |
| 16:10.49 | CBG | I usually quit everything except bz |
| 16:12.16 | Pimpinella | CBG: prolly you have a crappy route |
| 16:12.26 | CBG | huh? |
| 16:12.28 | Pimpinella | in tha case you can do nothing about it |
| 16:12.29 | CBG | route? |
| 16:12.41 | Pimpinella | yeah |
| 16:12.46 | CBG | as in? |
| 16:12.55 | CBG | router? connection? |
| 16:13.22 | Pimpinella | the route your packets go from your client to server and back |
| 16:13.31 | spldart | muwahahahhaha |
| 16:13.33 | Pimpinella | whats your operating system? |
| 16:13.44 | CBG | ooooookay. :s |
| 16:13.49 | CBG | Im on Mac OS X |
| 16:14.14 | Pimpinella | open a console session and run traceroute |
| 16:14.20 | CBG | what? |
| 16:14.41 | CBG | speak english. :P |
| 16:14.44 | Pimpinella | a command line window |
| 16:14.53 | Pimpinella | it's english... |
| 16:14.58 | CBG | how do i do that? |
| 16:15.17 | Pimpinella | no idea, ask one of the osx guys |
| 16:15.54 | CBG | Any OS X guys here? lol |
| 16:17.48 | Pimpinella | Mr_Molez: the server shouldn't send anything, that makes your client crash |
| 16:18.05 | Mr_Molez | Pimpinella: That's what i thought |
| 16:18.19 | Mr_Molez | Pimpinella: although its strange how it never happens on ducati |
| 16:18.26 | Pimpinella | prolly it's a rare occasion, but i'm almost sure it's a client but, not server |
| 16:19.09 | Pimpinella | the 1vs1 code doesn't change anything in client-server communication |
| 16:19.22 | Pimpinella | brb |
| 16:19.55 | Mr_Molez | maybe just a client problem then.. Just my luck for it to happen in the middle of a match |
| 16:23.27 | CBG | in the middle of EVERY match... :P lol |
| 16:24.00 | Mr_Molez | lol |
| 16:24.14 | Mr_Molez | nah u jinxed my client |
| 16:24.17 | Mr_Molez | ;) |
| 16:24.32 | CBG | ;) I wish I could do that against Mikkel |
| 16:24.39 | Mr_Molez | hehe |
| 16:24.53 | CBG | Then say he was quitting because he was scared he was gonna lose :D |
| 16:25.47 | Pimpinella | Mr_Molez: is it only today or was it regulary last time? |
| 16:26.21 | Mr_Molez | Pimpinella: no it only use to happen once in a blue moon.. Usually while observing. |
| 16:26.57 | CBG | *** bzcontest Task 8 is up *** |
| 16:27.13 | Mr_Molez | 8 ? |
| 16:27.39 | Mr_Molez | ohh the time |
| 16:27.39 | Mr_Molez | hehe |
| 16:27.41 | Mr_Molez | brb |
| 16:32.24 | CBG | Easy :D |
| 16:33.13 | LordSarpedon | Is there currently a way to define a map list for bzfs? |
| 16:42.26 | Pimpinella | LordSarpedon: what do you mean? |
| 16:43.16 | Pimpinella | Mr_Molez: thought of 1vs1, you played a lot lately |
| 16:43.52 | Pimpinella | did it happen also before or only today against cbg? |
| 16:44.54 | Pimpinella | oops, you also had problems with global login? |
| 16:45.46 | Pimpinella | no, seems only today |
| 16:46.15 | Pimpinella | didn't change anything, tis server version is running for several days now |
| 16:46.51 | orchid | LordSarpedon: to loop maps? serve one map, server another? |
| 16:50.51 | jomojo_ | ~seen quol |
| 16:50.53 | ibot | quol <~QS@modemcable131.110-70-69.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzleague, 7d 21h 22m 34s ago, saying: 'yes - it has been a while...I haven't been around much lately - how have you been?'. |
| 16:52.05 | spldart | Best so far :/ http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/spiralzone.avi |
| 16:52.53 | spldart | It's 3.3 meg download though on a slow server |
| 16:52.56 | spldart | ........ |
| 16:54.01 | orchid | heh cool |
| 16:55.09 | orchid | made from screenshots? |
| 16:55.15 | spldart | yeah |
| 16:55.19 | orchid | how many? |
| 16:55.23 | spldart | 510 |
| 16:55.28 | orchid | :) |
| 16:55.56 | spldart | On some maps I can just hold the key and the screenshots machinegun away and I get good looking movie |
| 16:56.07 | Pimpinella | can't get it, what is it? |
| 16:56.33 | spldart | but on others servers that willl llock up the fps |
| 16:56.48 | spldart | I made a movie as an observer in spiralzone |
| 16:56.53 | spldart | Cuz I wanted to ;) |
| 16:57.02 | Pimpinella | :) |
| 16:57.33 | Pimpinella | you know bzfs' record/replay feature? |
| 16:58.51 | spldart | ? |
| 16:59.05 | spldart | how does that output |
| 17:05.09 | orchid | spldart: you run a server with replay enabled, it servers a game and then you can run a server that replays that game |
| 17:05.31 | orchid | clients join as obs and watch |
| 17:13.11 | spldart | How does the server store that replay? |
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| 17:36.18 | a_monkey | ok... |
| 17:36.19 | spldart | BBL gonna play with the kids in the back yard |
| 17:36.32 | a_monkey | now i don't get an error about a vid card driver, but an alsa error |
| 17:36.57 | a_monkey | lemme post it somewhere |
| 17:38.12 | a_monkey | http://rafb.net/paste/results/r41t0V69.html |
| 17:38.55 | a_monkey | i don't have any apps using audio open or anything... |
| 17:38.56 | a_monkey | weird |
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| 17:39.19 | JeffM2501 | it's not wierd |
| 17:39.26 | JeffM2501 | it's telling you exectly what the problem is |
| 17:39.35 | Argunus_Ru | awt problem? |
| 17:39.40 | Argunus_Ru | wat problem? |
| 17:39.55 | a_monkey | http://rafb.net/paste/results/r41t0V69.html <-- this problem |
| 17:40.09 | a_monkey | well, how do i make the devices unbusy? |
| 17:40.17 | JeffM2501 | your sound device is busy |
| 17:40.27 | a_monkey | what could cause that? |
| 17:40.39 | JeffM2501 | something else using it |
| 17:40.45 | JeffM2501 | you have kde installed? |
| 17:41.08 | a_monkey | nope |
| 17:41.09 | a_monkey | gnome |
| 17:41.15 | JeffM2501 | you have a sound manger? |
| 17:41.21 | a_monkey | uh |
| 17:41.23 | JeffM2501 | or any thing that is playing sounds? |
| 17:41.32 | a_monkey | actually yes |
| 17:41.34 | JeffM2501 | like beeps and boopbs for the shell? |
| 17:41.36 | JeffM2501 | turn it off |
| 17:41.37 | a_monkey | yes |
| 17:41.38 | a_monkey | ok |
| 17:41.43 | JeffM2501 | it's using the sound card |
| 17:41.54 | a_monkey | what an idiot i was. i should have realized |
| 17:42.06 | JeffM2501 | welcome to linux |
| 17:43.10 | Mr_Molez | yay linux |
| 17:43.19 | a_monkey | i'm gonna have to log out and back in |
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| 17:53.48 | Pimpinella | spldart: iirc it stores the raw data and just sends it to the clients on replay |
| 17:55.59 | Pimpinella | for the client it's no difference to a actually running game |
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| 18:00.33 | a_monkey | i figured out that it was something else causing the problem |
| 18:00.49 | a_monkey | bz works fine with little beeps for actions |
| 18:01.10 | a_monkey | rhythmbox did something to make my sound device busy, even though it wasn't running |
| 18:02.18 | a_monkey | ever since i started up rhythmbox, tried to play something, and had to kill it because it was frozen, weird things have been happening |
| 18:02.23 | a_monkey | with alsa |
| 18:03.53 | a_monkey | i'm going to reboot |
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| 18:36.23 | a_monkey | hrm. now i get a very uninformative error when trying to start up bzflag: "Illegal instruction" |
| 18:37.14 | JeffM2501 | segfault or something? |
| 18:37.35 | a_monkey | segfault? whassat? |
| 18:37.43 | JeffM2501 | a crash |
| 18:37.48 | a_monkey | hm |
| 18:37.56 | JeffM2501 | where does it say illegal instruction? |
| 18:38.02 | JeffM2501 | and are you doing SDL or native nix? |
| 18:38.15 | a_monkey | sdl |
| 18:39.04 | JeffM2501 | how far does it get? |
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| 18:39.24 | a_monkey | the screen goes black, i see my mouse. then it crashes |
| 18:39.48 | a_monkey | it looks like it's about to work, but nope |
| 18:40.02 | JeffM2501 | gl not happy? |
| 18:40.12 | a_monkey | and the only output i get is illegal instruction. nothing else |
| 18:40.25 | a_monkey | i dunno why it wouldn't be |
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| 18:40.46 | JeffM2501 | could be coming from a driver |
| 18:41.01 | JeffM2501 | try running with -window -geometry 640x480 |
| 18:41.06 | a_monkey | ok |
| 18:41.32 | a_monkey | same error |
| 18:41.52 | JeffM2501 | wierdness |
| 18:41.55 | Tupone | that is linux? |
| 18:42.08 | JeffM2501 | on a ppc |
| 18:42.22 | Tupone | do you have gdb ? |
| 18:42.23 | a_monkey | i tried using the "ati" driver instead of the "radeon" driver, but i get the same error |
| 18:42.31 | a_monkey | Tupone: yep |
| 18:42.33 | Mr_Molez | i get the same tihng monkey |
| 18:42.40 | Tupone | tried to run with it? |
| 18:42.51 | a_monkey | uh, no |
| 18:43.03 | a_monkey | i've never used it |
| 18:43.04 | Tupone | you know how? |
| 18:43.07 | a_monkey | no |
| 18:43.11 | Tupone | gdb bzflag |
| 18:43.14 | Tupone | run -window |
| 18:43.19 | a_monkey | ah ok |
| 18:45.09 | a_monkey | the output: http://rafb.net/paste/results/uxBxNB99.html |
| 18:45.59 | Tupone | you ought to "bt" just after the crash รน |
| 18:46.11 | Tupone | bt -> back trace |
| 18:46.21 | a_monkey | how do i do that? |
| 18:46.29 | JeffM2501 | type it |
| 18:46.56 | JeffM2501 | your in frustum |
| 18:47.22 | Death_Barrel | anyone want to help me with a trivia bot i am setting up for ? |
| 18:48.35 | JeffM2501 | that function has no GL, I' bet you got bad info for a viewframe |
| 18:48.41 | a_monkey | i back traced, and here's the output: http://rafb.net/paste/results/tjItWe48.html |
| 18:48.44 | JeffM2501 | you sure you have GL installed? |
| 18:49.05 | Tupone | sorry, dinner :) |
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| 18:49.11 | spldart | Wish I was in a bit ago. I coulda went straight to the sound when alsa was mentioned :( |
| 18:49.45 | JeffM2501 | a_monkey, what version are you building? |
| 18:49.58 | a_monkey | JeffM2501: of bz? |
| 18:50.11 | a_monkey | JeffM2501: 2.0.2 |
| 18:50.12 | JeffM2501 | well that is what you are talking about right? |
| 18:50.24 | a_monkey | right |
| 18:50.24 | JeffM2501 | source from cvs or a tarball? |
| 18:50.43 | a_monkey | i got it from bzflag.org. a tarball |
| 18:50.56 | JeffM2501 | have you ran any other openGL things? |
| 18:51.11 | a_monkey | no |
| 18:51.15 | a_monkey | i'll try tuxracer |
| 18:54.04 | a_monkey | tuxracer is fine |
| 18:54.08 | a_monkey | it used opengl, right? |
| 18:54.14 | JeffM2501 | it should |
| 18:54.19 | a_monkey | weird |
| 18:54.30 | JeffM2501 | you'd have to slap in a breakpoint and see what the deal is |
| 18:54.33 | JeffM2501 | see why it's dying |
| 18:54.35 | JeffM2501 | what is bad |
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| 19:23.11 | CBG | hi |
| 19:23.18 | JeffM2501 | sup |
| 19:23.53 | CBG | wow. I have a positive strength index on gu.de now :D wooohooo |
| 19:24.29 | CBG | 133 suicides. 295 connects... :D lol |
| 19:25.28 | JeffM2501 | tht's a lot of killing of ones self |
| 19:25.28 | CBG | 3070 kills, 2853 deaths, all in 1 month. :D |
| 19:25.34 | CBG | yeah. lol. |
| 19:27.51 | CBG | I commit suicide everytime I am killed 21.3511278 times. |
| 19:28.31 | JeffM2501 | is that good? |
| 19:28.43 | CBG | On avearge, I kill 10.4 people each time I connect, and I die 9.67... |
| 19:28.46 | CBG | i dunno |
| 19:29.10 | CBG | but It is giving me a POSITIVE strength index... :D |
| 19:29.45 | JeffM2501 | that does make sense, since you kill slightly more then you die |
| 19:29.45 | CBG | I only commit suicide 0.45 each connect... |
| 19:29.50 | CBG | yeah :D |
| 19:30.31 | CBG | my Kill / Death ratio is 1.07606029 |
| 19:30.39 | CBG | :D Go me! |
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| 19:40.05 | Mr_Molez | did any admin get my ghosted ? |
| 19:40.19 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 19:40.20 | Mr_Molez | my = me |
| 19:40.27 | Mr_Molez | on ducati |
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| 19:45.32 | Mr_Molez | guess i need to change my password :| |
| 19:45.42 | JeffM2501 | is it simple? |
| 19:45.57 | JeffM2501 | or have you ever used the same password with /identify ? |
| 19:46.06 | Mr_Molez | no |
| 19:46.22 | Mr_Molez | ill figure it out |
| 20:02.49 | SportChick | JeffM2501: the slot kick feature - can you ban by slot number now too? |
| 20:03.10 | JeffM2501 | I think so |
| 20:03.15 | JeffM2501 | it's just a selection mechanism |
| 20:04.42 | ruskie | well pope died |
| 20:08.52 | _Manu_ | SportChick, yes |
| 20:09.10 | _Manu_ | SportChick, you can ban using ip, playername or slot |
| 20:09.36 | _Manu_ | SportChick, just type /ban for a help ;-P |
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| 20:34.34 | LordSarpedon | what are world weapons? |
| 20:35.53 | JeffM2501 | weapons tied to the map and the server |
| 20:36.14 | LordSarpedon | how can the map have wapons? |
| 20:36.26 | JeffM2501 | with world weapons :) |
| 20:36.35 | JeffM2501 | like to make a lazer fence |
| 20:36.40 | JeffM2501 | out actual lazers |
| 20:36.44 | wizart | just a laser or shot coming out of nowhere |
| 20:36.50 | JeffM2501 | or a gun turret that shoots GMs |
| 20:36.51 | LordSarpedon | Oh, isee. Is the ever used? |
| 20:36.55 | wizart | yes |
| 20:36.57 | JeffM2501 | some maps use it |
| 20:36.58 | wizart | in some maps |
| 20:37.10 | wizart | for example the parcours |
| 20:37.54 | wizart | check out bzflag.norang.ca |
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| 20:54.13 | ruskie | hmmmm world weapons sounds nice... |
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| 21:08.28 | JeffM2501 | http://www.opencombat.net/~jeffm/smooth.png |
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| 21:30.12 | Pimpinella | i use ddd as frontend for gdb, makes thinkgs easier imho |
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| 21:43.35 | CBG | hi |
| 22:02.35 | SportChick | _man: thanks! I actually tested it on one of the admins to see if it worked! It did! :) |
| 22:04.17 | cosmos | hrm |
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| 22:12.14 | SportChick | Thumper_: ping |
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| 22:17.35 | javaJake | grrr.... this doesn't allow you to goto #palm! |
| 22:17.45 | javaJake | That stinks. |
| 22:17.54 | brad2901 | get a real irc client:) |
| 22:18.04 | javaJake | I;m done with IRC, but I wanted to say bye. |
| 22:18.13 | brad2901 | bye |
| 22:18.22 | javaJake | :) |
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| 22:48.23 | spldart | To any that were online when I was working out a way to capture the game. I emuled a copy of Fraps and have gotten good, if enormous, results ;) |
| 22:51.23 | trepan | spldart: you can record games (server-side) for replay |
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| 23:23.24 | uso | recording only works for 2.0 server? |
| 23:24.11 | spldart | trepan: I assume the replay format is only able to be seen with a client. Correct? |
| 23:24.19 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:24.33 | JeffM2501 | it's just makes the server replay the events that happend in game to a client |
| 23:24.38 | JeffM2501 | like an observer |
| 23:24.47 | spldart | Well. I highly recomment frap otherwise ;) |
| 23:25.11 | spldart | I'll look into the bzfs record thingy later though.. Sounds cool. |
| 23:25.35 | JeffM2501 | any kind of movie thing would have to happen on the client |
| 23:25.42 | JeffM2501 | it's the only thing that knows how to draw |
| 23:25.47 | spldart | I need a nap... Played hard with the kids in the back yard after mowing and weedwacking. |
| 23:25.54 | spldart | Makes sense |
| 23:28.00 | spldart | I do have a question about bzadmin but I'm to tired to ask right now :) hehe |
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| 23:31.21 | LordSarpedon | getting a stupid cpp error. How can I have an "undefined reference" to something I declared in the class? |
| 23:31.37 | JeffM2501 | are you using it before you declare it? |
| 23:31.59 | LordSarpedon | The variable is declared in the header, which is obviousl #include-ed |
| 23:32.10 | JeffM2501 | show me code |
| 23:32.27 | LordSarpedon | from the header: static NetFilter* filter; |
| 23:32.39 | JeffM2501 | that's in a class? |
| 23:32.53 | LordSarpedon | from the cxx: if (filter) |
| 23:32.58 | LordSarpedon | yes its a class |
| 23:33.07 | JeffM2501 | are you using it in a member of the class? |
| 23:33.11 | LordSarpedon | yes |
| 23:33.27 | JeffM2501 | does the class know what a NetFilter Type is? |
| 23:33.42 | LordSarpedon | The header includes it |
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| 23:33.51 | JeffM2501 | then I'd need to see code |
| 23:33.58 | JeffM2501 | slap some on pastebin |
| 23:34.06 | LordSarpedon | pastebin? |
| 23:34.14 | JeffM2501 | www.pastebin.com |
| 23:34.17 | JeffM2501 | paste code |
| 23:34.20 | JeffM2501 | send us link |
| 23:34.22 | JeffM2501 | we see code |
| 23:34.23 | LordSarpedon | oh, wonderful |
| 23:34.39 | JeffM2501 | and there is great rejoycing |
| 23:34.57 | LordSarpedon | Heh. Entire header and imp, or just the interesting parts? |
| 23:34.59 | Noodle-sensei | and the lord saw all that he had made, and behold, it was good |
| 23:35.08 | JeffM2501 | the part that has the error first |
| 23:35.33 | JeffM2501 | Noodle-sensei, count to 3 then pull pin |
| 23:36.52 | uso | i'm not a C++ guy, but does static not mean scope local to the file it is used in, so static in a header file doesn't make sense? |
| 23:37.10 | JeffM2501 | static means it dosnt' change |
| 23:37.19 | uso | ah, ok |
| 23:37.23 | JeffM2501 | if it's part of the class, like a member var, then static is redundant |
| 23:37.35 | JeffM2501 | hence why I wanted to see code :) |
| 23:39.26 | LordSarpedon | theres another static member in the class that works |
| 23:39.35 | LordSarpedon | 'cept I didn't writ that part lol |
| 23:39.39 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:39.46 | JeffM2501 | well static sould not be your problem |
| 23:40.03 | JeffM2501 | it just means "only init this onece" |
| 23:40.17 | JeffM2501 | and if it's in a class it was only gonna be inited by the constructior once anyway |
| 23:40.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/tools/mapedit/ (inc/mathUtils.h src/mathUtils.cpp): can't do pyramids with out normals. can't do normals with out cross product, can't do cross product with out math. all hail the math |
| 23:41.41 | LordSarpedon | http://www.pastebin.com/266311 |
| 23:42.06 | LordSarpedon | whats cia-3 for? |
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| 23:42.24 | JeffM2501 | your static isn't in a class is it? |
| 23:42.31 | LordSarpedon | the static member, yes |
| 23:42.40 | JeffM2501 | what class is it in? |
| 23:42.43 | JeffM2501 | don't see it in your code |
| 23:42.53 | JeffM2501 | CIA-3 is just like all the oher CIAs :) |
| 23:42.58 | LordSarpedon | I can include the entire thing, but it is large |
| 23:43.04 | JeffM2501 | so |
| 23:43.20 | LordSarpedon | the static member is in the class NetHandler |
| 23:43.24 | JeffM2501 | hard to tell what you have in what scope otherwise |
| 23:43.29 | LordSarpedon | Alright then |
| 23:43.35 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't need to be static |
| 23:43.40 | JeffM2501 | if it's part of the class |
| 23:43.47 | JeffM2501 | what line gives you the error? |
| 23:43.59 | JeffM2501 | the part in "applyFilter" or that other code? |
| 23:44.18 | JeffM2501 | and do you init filter to NULL in the constructor? |
| 23:44.22 | LordSarpedon | The header for NetHandler |
| 23:44.27 | LordSarpedon | http://www.pastebin.com/266313 |
| 23:44.31 | LordSarpedon | I need to init filter? |
| 23:44.49 | LordSarpedon | oh, thatw as the implementation |
| 23:44.49 | JeffM2501 | no variables are inited to anyting in C |
| 23:45.02 | JeffM2501 | not automaticly at least |
| 23:45.08 | JeffM2501 | remember no garbage cleaning :) |
| 23:45.50 | JeffM2501 | post up your header and CPP and show me the full error message |
| 23:45.57 | LordSarpedon | http://www.pastebin.com/266315 |
| 23:46.07 | LordSarpedon | I have posted cpp and header |
| 23:46.15 | LordSarpedon | and now for the errors.... |
| 23:46.44 | JeffM2501 | well in a class static can mean the item can be called outside the instance of a class |
| 23:46.48 | JeffM2501 | it's lame to do it that way tho |
| 23:46.58 | Tupone | LordSarpedon: error is during link phase ? |
| 23:47.08 | LordSarpedon | yes I believe so |
| 23:47.46 | LordSarpedon | Jeffm2501, its the best way in this case. There is an instance of NetHandler for each player that all must use the same filter |
| 23:48.05 | JeffM2501 | then pass it in as part of the constructor and keep a refernce |
| 23:48.09 | Tupone | and you have a static member? |
| 23:48.12 | JeffM2501 | no need for it to be static |
| 23:48.20 | JeffM2501 | keep it external |
| 23:48.27 | JeffM2501 | what if later you WANT more then one filter for some reason |
| 23:49.29 | LordSarpedon | yes, a static member, tupone |
| 23:49.50 | Tupone | I think that a declaration of that member will help a lot :) |
| 23:50.03 | LordSarpedon | http://www.pastebin.com/266317 |
| 23:50.05 | Tupone | I mean an initiailization in the body |
| 23:50.11 | LordSarpedon | Oh? I will try that |
| 23:50.18 | JeffM2501 | yeah you need to init that bad boy |
| 23:50.24 | JeffM2501 | you can't use it till it's set |
| 23:50.42 | LordSarpedon | hah. That would be the issue then |
| 23:50.48 | Tupone | like -> NetFilter *NetHandler::filter = NULL; |
| 23:51.07 | JeffM2501 | what's on line 66 of nethandler.cxx ? |
| 23:51.14 | JeffM2501 | you only posted he full hearder |
| 23:51.17 | JeffM2501 | not the CPP |
| 23:51.48 | LordSarpedon | I posted both...look p |
| 23:51.51 | LordSarpedon | *up |
| 23:52.31 | Tupone | look at this -> bool NetHandler::pendingUDP = false; you have to do the same for filter |
| 23:53.16 | JeffM2501 | 66 is a call to DestoryFilter |
| 23:54.13 | LordSarpedon | I tried to set ilter to 0 in constructor. Got an error saying that static members must be initialized at declaration |
| 23:54.14 | Tupone | all reference to filter, filter declaration (or initialization) is missing |
| 23:54.24 | JeffM2501 | yeah they do |
| 23:54.36 | JeffM2501 | put a : after the constuctior |
| 23:54.41 | JeffM2501 | then filter(NULL) |
| 23:54.46 | Tupone | LordSarpedon: look at line 22 of NetHandler.cxx |
| 23:54.48 | JeffM2501 | same as a refrence |
| 23:54.54 | Tupone | and do the same for filter |
| 23:55.01 | JeffM2501 | or don't make it static |
| 23:55.18 | LordSarpedon | So I set it to 0 in the header, and get an error ../../include/NetHandler.h:165: invalid in-class initialization of static data |
| 23:55.26 | JeffM2501 | and set externaly every time you make a new instance of your object |
| 23:55.39 | JeffM2501 | NO not in the header |
| 23:55.42 | JeffM2501 | in the constructor |
| 23:55.46 | JeffM2501 | but not in the boddy |
| 23:55.53 | JeffM2501 | in the default construcor part |
| 23:56.01 | JeffM2501 | after the constuctor name before the { |
| 23:56.08 | JeffM2501 | put a : filter(NULL) |
| 23:56.12 | Tupone | LordSarpedon: look at line 22 of NetHandler.cxx, please |
| 23:56.23 | JeffM2501 | and listen to tupone :) |
| 23:56.24 | Tupone | or just make non static :) |
| 23:56.32 | JeffM2501 | yeah or just make it non static |
| 23:56.34 | LordSarpedon | i tried to set in the constructor that way |
| 23:56.45 | LordSarpedon | Let me get the exact error... |
| 23:56.47 | Tupone | LordSarpedon: look at line 22 of NetHandler.cxx, please |
| 23:57.01 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, I think you've gone invisible |
| 23:57.05 | Tupone | lol |
| 23:57.33 | JeffM2501 | I vote for making it non static |
| 23:57.39 | JeffM2501 | or puting it in a singleton |
| 23:57.43 | JeffM2501 | if there realy can be only 1 |
| 23:58.05 | Tupone | NetHandler contains an array of NetHandler |
| 23:58.16 | Tupone | so depends |
| 23:58.35 | JeffM2501 | if there is the posibility of there being more then 1, then it shoudl be set externaly |
| 23:58.49 | Tupone | yeah, they are 1 for each client |
| 23:59.01 | JeffM2501 | then why is it a pointer? |
| 23:59.07 | JeffM2501 | and not just an object? |
| 23:59.14 | Tupone | I dunno filter what is :( |
| 23:59.30 | Tupone | I did it before, without. Probably a LordSarpedon initiative |
| 23:59.40 | LordSarpedon | Hmm? |
| 23:59.40 | JeffM2501 | yeah he's adding it |
| 23:59.50 | JeffM2501 | is there 1 filter for the entire system? |
| 23:59.54 | LordSarpedon | Yes. |
