| 00:08.38 | JeffM2501 | what would be nice is if bzfs got the userID from bzfs |
| 00:08.47 | JeffM2501 | sorry from bzbb |
| 00:09.22 | JeffM2501 | since that would be a uniqueID |
| 00:09.37 | JeffM2501 | only other way I can see is use the callsign only if they are verified. |
| 00:09.58 | purple_cow | well, i'm talking about object identity in python |
| 00:10.00 | purple_cow | aka: |
| 00:10.10 | JeffM2501 | doh |
| 00:10.10 | purple_cow | player = BZFlag.Players[0] |
| 00:10.13 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 00:10.25 | purple_cow | then later, if you're doing something, you can check |
| 00:10.28 | purple_cow | if a is player: |
| 00:10.48 | purple_cow | i don't want that identity to be invalidated when joins/parts occur |
| 00:10.53 | JeffM2501 | I did it where you got a playerInfo class and just tell it to update itself, if you want to keep it around. |
| 00:11.25 | JeffM2501 | playreIndex dosn't change on a join/part of an existing user does it? |
| 00:11.32 | purple_cow | well, yeah, i just need to translate that into a python object |
| 00:12.00 | JeffM2501 | did you see teh suck movie? |
| 00:12.05 | purple_cow | uhhuh |
| 00:12.19 | purple_cow | it wasn't as bad as the previous 2, but i doubt it was intended to be quite as comedic as it seemed |
| 00:13.03 | JeffM2501 | anakin can not act his way out of a paper bag |
| 00:13.14 | JeffM2501 | "come to the dark side".... "hooooookayyyy mr sith" |
| 00:13.32 | wegstar | L) |
| 00:13.43 | purple_cow | i think the only performance i liked was ewan mcgregor's |
| 00:13.48 | purple_cow | which isn't terribly surprising :P |
| 00:13.53 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 00:13.56 | JeffM2501 | he made a good obiwan |
| 00:14.10 | JeffM2501 | the battle at the begining was great in it's scale |
| 00:14.15 | JeffM2501 | rememinded me of the one in jedi |
| 00:14.18 | JeffM2501 | I liked that one |
| 00:14.49 | purple_cow | no, i love YOU more! |
| 00:14.56 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 00:15.07 | JeffM2501 | now have you seen the animated clone wars? |
| 00:15.10 | purple_cow | nope |
| 00:15.13 | JeffM2501 | ohh |
| 00:15.17 | JeffM2501 | you really should |
| 00:15.22 | JeffM2501 | they are very very very well done |
| 00:16.03 | purple_cow | really? |
| 00:16.08 | JeffM2501 | ohh yeah |
| 00:16.15 | JeffM2501 | ever see samurai jack? |
| 00:16.23 | darth_mall | good show |
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| 00:16.27 | JeffM2501 | same guys |
| 00:16.57 | JeffM2501 | I have them |
| 00:17.01 | JeffM2501 | can send to navi if you wish |
| 00:17.12 | darth_mall | Samurai Jack? |
| 00:17.18 | JeffM2501 | no clone wars |
| 00:17.22 | darth_mall | oh |
| 00:17.25 | JeffM2501 | I should get jack on DVD |
| 00:17.30 | darth_mall | me too |
| 00:17.44 | KTL | does anyone know about a bzfs crashing after a /flaghistory? |
| 00:18.04 | KTL | i did it twice today |
| 00:18.16 | orchid | same server? |
| 00:18.18 | KTL | and directly after the whole server got restarted |
| 00:18.23 | KTL | on bladica |
| 00:18.39 | KTL | but it does not work allways, i jsut tried again to test it and no effect |
| 00:19.17 | KTL | a lot of players, big scores, some people checked my client version... |
| 00:20.55 | orchid | hmm it seemed ok for me just now, although it got laggy all of a sudden |
| 00:21.23 | KTL | for me i saw everybody becoming nr |
| 00:21.39 | KTL | the first time it happened i thought "did they kick or ban me??" |
| 00:22.22 | orchid | that server could do with less shots and more bandwith, or both |
| 00:22.37 | KTL | and then i tried reconnecting, everybody began from scratch |
| 00:23.36 | KTL | idea, i go to there, somebody asks my client version and i do the flaghistory |
| 00:24.05 | orchid | ok |
| 00:25.46 | KTL | nothing |
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| 00:37.47 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/binding-thoughts: events are done, so i can remove that from here |
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| 00:40.35 | JeffM2501 | so would it be bad that I added a new event :) |
| 00:41.17 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: i haven't finished binding all the events, just finished designing it |
| 00:41.40 | JeffM2501 | ahhhhhhhhhh |
| 00:42.20 | purple_cow | that file just contains my thoughts on what the bindings should look like |
| 00:43.38 | purple_cow | well, you can get tick/join/part events and send messages so far ;) |
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| 00:44.34 | JeffM2501 | that's at least something |
| 00:44.38 | JeffM2501 | the project bilds |
| 00:44.43 | JeffM2501 | I just never tested it |
| 00:44.55 | KTL | http://www.xyrus.nl/404.html |
| 00:45.55 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: you should try to get test.py running on windows |
| 00:46.10 | JeffM2501 | I shall when I get these last changes building |
| 00:47.27 | JeffM2501 | making it so plugin can overide the access flags of a player before bzfs sends out the user info packet |
| 00:47.38 | JeffM2501 | so that it could hide @ and + |
| 00:48.01 | JeffM2501 | or even add @ or + |
| 00:53.46 | JeffM2501 | woudl help if I actualy HAD the python dll installed |
| 00:54.52 | wegstar | err.. |
| 00:55.05 | JeffM2501 | how is it suposed to log? |
| 00:55.08 | JeffM2501 | with debug1 ? |
| 00:56.07 | purple_cow | supposed to log? |
| 00:56.14 | JeffM2501 | how do I know it works? |
| 00:56.17 | JeffM2501 | or gets events? |
| 00:56.20 | JeffM2501 | it ran |
| 00:56.22 | JeffM2501 | saw nothing |
| 00:58.57 | purple_cow | run in a console :P |
| 00:59.14 | JeffM2501 | console was up |
| 00:59.18 | JeffM2501 | was debuging |
| 00:59.24 | JeffM2501 | saw bzfs output |
| 00:59.41 | JeffM2501 | was outputing elapsed time and stuff |
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| 01:05.09 | purple_cow | note to self: don't run 2 copies of bzflag at the same time on this graphics chipset |
| 01:05.40 | blast007 | :) |
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| 01:13.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/ (PyBZFlag.cpp PyBZFlag.h): well, it's adding players properly... |
| 01:13.57 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, what do you think about the plugin manager being able to take a file sans extension, and it'll put .dll or .so on it if needed |
| 01:14.10 | JeffM2501 | so that you can do -loadplugin python,test.py |
| 01:14.24 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: i'd love that |
| 01:14.53 | JeffM2501 | make it so the same CLI will work on any OS too |
| 01:14.54 | purple_cow | plus i'd like a plugins directory that it auto-searches so you don't have to give a full path |
| 01:15.05 | JeffM2501 | that's dooable |
| 01:15.23 | JeffM2501 | I'll add a "find plugin" to the manager |
| 01:15.45 | JeffM2501 | when it's done I think the pyton one should be build by default |
| 01:16.27 | JeffM2501 | gotta test hiddenAdmin then I'll make that change |
| 01:17.02 | JeffM2501 | on and a couple of clone wars have finished uploading to my homedir |
| 01:17.05 | JeffM2501 | they are very short |
| 01:17.08 | JeffM2501 | like 5 min each |
| 01:17.22 | JeffM2501 | cartoon network called it a "micro-series" |
| 01:19.47 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03lan56 * 10bzflag/Dev-C++/bzflag.dev: fix "input line too long" error message by putting all the object files in /dev-c++/ rather than /src/bzflag/ (saves one character each file) |
| 01:21.13 | darth_mall | JeffM2501: yeah, but Lucas is turning it into a full-blown series |
| 01:21.19 | darth_mall | as well as making a live-action TV show |
| 01:22.46 | JeffM2501 | yes I saw |
| 01:22.58 | JeffM2501 | "but I'm pregnant with his imperial baby!!!" |
| 01:23.11 | purple_cow | :) |
| 01:23.58 | darth_mall | ^^ |
| 01:24.00 | creeperz | I pwn noobs and stuff |
| 01:26.20 | JeffM2501 | umm ok skip |
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| 02:09.11 | RPG_ | hey |
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| 02:31.30 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/ (PyBZFlag.cpp PyBZFlag.h): maintain players array when the plugin gets join/part events |
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| 03:00.36 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking || MAL=3 |
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| 03:04.53 | Logwad | type /msg NickServ IDENTIFY <password> |
| 03:04.53 | Logwad | - |
| 03:06.00 | Logwad | This is my second time on IRC, so forgive my blundering. |
| 03:07.42 | MeBigFatGuy | blunder away |
| 03:07.52 | Logwad | Too late. :) |
| 03:10.12 | Logwad | Hm, most people on here have been idle for 2+ hours, why don't they log out? |
| 03:11.38 | MeBigFatGuy | well you can always come back and read the history |
| 03:11.54 | Logwad | I suppose that's true. |
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| 03:42.18 | jpa- | motring |
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| 05:39.31 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/configure.in: test for gcc > 3.4 fixed ? |
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| 06:06.10 | fabianne | morning |
| 06:06.27 | Tupone | morning :) |
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| 09:07.24 | jolie | Ok.. |
| 09:07.28 | jolie | why why!? |
| 09:07.48 | Pimpinella | oops, wron key |
| 09:07.54 | jolie | TWICE!? |
| 09:07.56 | jolie | >=( |
| 09:08.13 | Pimpinella | yeah, wrong window in forground |
| 09:08.28 | jolie | dudey when you hit wrong twice.... |
| 09:08.30 | Pimpinella | focus |
| 09:08.40 | Pimpinella | u were selected |
| 09:08.47 | jolie | Uh me so lucky! |
| 09:08.50 | jolie | :P bah. |
| 09:08.54 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 09:09.19 | Pimpinella | really, i didn't mean to disturb your studies ;) |
| 09:09.23 | jolie | studies!?! |
| 09:09.30 | jolie | im too old for that |
| 09:09.43 | Birdie | i feel young than |
| 09:10.06 | Pimpinella | you _are_ young Birdie ... |
| 09:10.22 | jolie | yeah you _are_ |
| 09:10.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/ChangeLog: 2.0 is not that old |
| 09:10.32 | Birdie | i hope those are compliments:) |
| 09:10.38 | jolie | depends... |
| 09:10.49 | Birdie | i feel naked now:( |
| 09:11.10 | jolie | dude, was ONE feather.. scary though you wear nothing in front of puter... |
| 09:11.11 | jolie | :S |
| 09:11.29 | Birdie | it was a feather from a place i didnt have much left:( |
| 09:11.36 | Birdie | because you took allready so much;) |
| 09:11.55 | Birdie | lol i didnt meaned like that |
| 09:13.00 | jolie | i should... work..... |
| 09:13.22 | Pimpinella | besides, one of my neighbours is 67 and goes to univerity again... |
| 09:13.22 | Birdie | well join the club of "should been working" |
| 09:13.32 | Pimpinella | university |
| 09:13.42 | jolie | well i work, studies done. |
| 09:13.57 | jolie | but ill take some uni curses at some point... again >_< |
| 09:14.16 | Birdie | gonna study maths |
| 09:14.17 | Pimpinella | jaja, lebenslanges lernen... |
| 09:14.18 | jolie | nana shhh ill be around |
| 09:14.22 | jolie | tja... |
| 09:14.39 | jolie | wir lernen immer... |
| 09:32.41 | jpa- | lsl |
| 09:32.57 | jolie | omg! its him! |
| 09:33.04 | jolie | its MR jap ! |
| 09:36.44 | jpa- | yes |
| 09:43.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/ (PyPlayer.cpp PyPlayer.h PyBZFlag.cpp PyBZFlag.h): start work on creating a real Python class for players |
| 09:43.59 | jolie | python! yays! now you talk sexy! |
| 09:44.17 | jpa- | <3 |
| 09:45.24 | jpa- | class Jolie: def __init__(self): return Null; |
| 10:12.45 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/ (PyPlayer.cpp SConstruct): make it compile...CVS: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- |
| 10:13.37 | purple_cow | arg |
| 10:14.03 | jolie | ... |
| 10:15.36 | Pimpinella | purple_cow even worked on reimplementing the whole game in python in the past ;) |
| 10:16.16 | Pimpinella | never tried it |
| 10:16.29 | jolie | well |
| 10:16.39 | jolie | thats a hell of a nice job |
| 10:16.47 | jolie | python <3<3 |
| 10:17.29 | purple_cow | i wasn't reimplementing the whole game :P |
| 10:17.34 | purple_cow | it was just some stuff to play with |
| 10:17.45 | jolie | still.. |
| 10:18.02 | jolie | come on lets make it all python |
| 10:18.06 | jolie | muahah |
| 10:20.54 | jolie | now that sounds like a CVS conflict , time to check the PyPlayer.cpp file and clean it... |
| 10:21.14 | purple_cow | cvs conflict? |
| 10:24.52 | Pimpinella | wow, sf is fast today |
| 10:25.09 | jolie | it's when two people edit the same file |
| 10:25.17 | jolie | CVS will try to "merge" the changes |
| 10:25.24 | jolie | but when it cannot, it's a conflict |
| 10:25.27 | jolie | so.. |
| 10:25.37 | jolie | now that sounds like a CVS conflict , time to check the PyPlayer.cpp file and clean it... =) |
| 10:26.19 | Tupone | jolie: so you changed PyPlayer.cpp locally ? |
| 10:26.27 | Pimpinella | cvs shouldn't allow any commit if the workdirectory isn't up to date,no? |
| 10:27.17 | jolie | im onli commenting to what the cia thingie said above |
| 10:28.30 | Tupone | jolie: :* |
| 10:28.42 | purple_cow | jolie: that was just a messed up commit message |
| 10:28.54 | purple_cow | i missed a newline between my comment and the first CVS: line |
| 10:29.12 | jolie | bah. |
| 10:38.01 | jolie | Pimpinella: cvs doesn't allow commit if working copy is not up-to-date, but when you "cvs update" the working copy, it'll merge the changes between (old CVS => new CVS) and (old CVS => working copy) |
| 10:38.14 | Birdie | i knew that 8-) |
| 10:38.23 | jolie | and there can be a conflict at that time |
| 10:40.47 | jolie | all i know its .. rain will fall like tears from the sky... all i know its how fragile we are... |
| 10:41.11 | jolie | and i should work... after all in 15 min lunchbreak! yays! |
| 10:55.49 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/PyPlayer.cpp: implement the guts of the getattr method for the Player class. just gotta fill in data now |
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| 10:58.11 | khirsha | hi |
| 10:58.28 | khirsha | may be someone could help me |
| 10:58.35 | jolie | AREM kirshammmm |
| 10:58.55 | jolie | erk, say ur pb and maybe someone helps. |
| 10:58.59 | khirsha | i'm trying to play with bzflag but i can't get sound works |
| 10:59.19 | jolie | check ur speakers are on? |
| 10:59.24 | jolie | volume up? |
| 10:59.40 | khirsha | speakers are on volume up |
| 11:00.09 | khirsha | i'm on kde, with arts enabled it play some strange sound |
| 11:00.15 | khirsha | with arts disabled nothing |
| 11:01.45 | jolie | strange sound is like broooosh booom when you fire? |
| 11:01.52 | khirsha | wich are the option available for audio driver menu? |
| 11:01.59 | jolie | cause i think ** thats all the sound bzflag has.. |
| 11:03.23 | khirsha | no is always the same sequence of sound that i can't describe |
| 11:04.04 | khirsha | like a very scraped compact-disc |
| 11:04.16 | jolie | try, describe the noise you get |
| 11:04.23 | jolie | is it like rtttpppp or like brrrttttsss |
| 11:05.56 | khirsha | nothing like the wav that bzflag use |
| 11:08.01 | khirsha | how can i edit the config file to select the audio driver and device to use? |
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| 11:09.15 | jolie | moin moin |
| 11:10.37 | jolie | sigh* he cpould have said the noise... |
| 11:10.40 | jolie | :D |
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| 11:12.45 | Birdie | au i'm to late to help that khirsha |
| 11:13.20 | jolie | well let him use his brain a bit ;) |
| 11:13.31 | jolie | he will come back when he has try long enough |
| 11:13.36 | Birdie | like some people have a hard time for it;) |
| 11:13.48 | Birdie | (using brain) |
| 11:14.37 | Birdie | k that sentence was really bad english:( |
| 11:14.50 | jolie | :** |
| 11:15.16 | jolie | have ur time use ur brain :D |
| 11:15.33 | Birdie | lol |
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| 11:27.45 | Birdie | where is the cvsweb interface url? |
| 11:27.58 | jolie | lol* |
| 11:28.36 | Birdie | for bz* |
| 11:28.45 | jolie | ... |
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| 11:29.35 | Birdie | ibot: cvs web interface |
| 11:30.43 | Birdie | ~cvs web interface |
| 11:31.04 | jolie | for bz! |
| 11:35.22 | jolie | I don't find the PyBZFlag.h/cpp nor bzfsAPI.h in the cvsweb >=( , SO where is it!?!?! |
| 11:35.33 | jolie | help** |
| 12:14.45 | Tupone | Birdie: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag |
| 12:14.57 | jolie | thx |
| 12:15.03 | jolie | was for me |
| 12:15.28 | jolie | now i have to get my hands init |
| 12:15.42 | Tupone | jolie: http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/bzflag/bzflag/include/ |
| 12:15.49 | jolie | but when i get home... |
| 12:16.19 | Tupone | that is the bzfsAPI.h location |
| 12:16.53 | Tupone | jolie: :** :-) |
| 12:17.06 | jolie | the first step is to make a C API, with pure C accessors to any C++ thingie ... uhm.. okay ill go home .. see you soon tupo i hope... then you can lead me... in some stuff i have doubts on. |
| 12:17.39 | Tupone | ok |
| 12:17.51 | Tupone | I have doubt everywhere |
| 12:18.38 | jolie | horrible code ! >_< |
| 12:18.40 | jolie | kay bbl :** |
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| 12:22.04 | gina | hi |
| 12:29.33 | Tupone | hi gina |
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| 13:11.56 | Grumbler | anybody have any asian language skills? http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=3873&sid=b306cd23d3c2bb361f39088fe9534239 |
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| 13:38.00 | Grumbler | guten morgen alle |
| 13:38.08 | jolie | tja... |
| 13:38.11 | Ice_Wewe | can someone help me with a world weapon problem |
| 13:38.14 | jolie | wenn du das sagst |
| 13:38.20 | jolie | muss sein. |
| 13:38.27 | jpa- | lalala |
| 13:38.37 | Ice_Wewe | jpa |
| 13:38.41 | Ice_Wewe | you can surely help me |
| 13:38.58 | jpa- | surely? no. maybe? yes. |
| 13:39.28 | Ice_Wewe | ok so JeffM2501 said he added code so that you can have world weapons go off when another team captures your flag. |
| 13:39.49 | Ice_Wewe | well I got the newest CVS version, and compiled it, and it just ain't workin' |
| 13:40.10 | jpa- | eh, i can't help |
| 13:40.11 | jpa- | sorry |
| 13:40.18 | Ice_Wewe | can anyoe else? |
| 13:40.22 | Ice_Wewe | help? |
| 13:40.27 | Ice_Wewe | anyone* |
| 13:40.28 | jolie | im working on the cvs ... |
| 13:41.03 | jolie | wake up jeff ;) |
| 13:41.22 | Tupone | ~wakeup Jeff |
| 13:41.23 | ibot | ACTION silently aproaches Jeff, who's sleeping (zZzZZZzzZZ, Ronc !!! ronc!), gets off his pants and shoots a noisy fart ... PUBFBFBFBBBFFF!!! |
| 13:41.42 | Ice_Wewe | lol |
| 13:42.08 | jolie | well i though like more.. pick up ur phone and ring? |
| 13:42.39 | jolie | i mean i need jeff aswell... but i wonder if to wake him up... for this .. >_< |
| 13:44.36 | jolie | uhm what time is it where jeff lives? |
| 13:44.50 | Thumper_ | 6:44AM I think |
| 13:45.02 | jolie | uhm uhm.. too early... |
| 13:45.07 | Ice_Wewe | ok, I can wait |
| 13:45.11 | jolie | yeah... |
| 13:45.15 | jolie | lets wait... |
| 13:45.19 | Ice_Wewe | rounds* |
| 13:45.21 | Tupone | cali |
| 13:45.48 | jolie | that sounds SOOO wrong >_< |
| 13:45.49 | Thumper_ | jpa-: great game on river last night... until imsorry showed up |
| 13:46.54 | jpa- | what is wrong with imsorry? |
| 13:47.02 | jpa- | beat you? :) |
| 13:47.12 | Thumper_ | he plays rogue and makes spoils captures :) |
| 13:47.51 | Thumper_ | yes s/he's good... but it would be much more fun if they were on one of the teams instead |
| 13:48.20 | Thumper_ | of course then you have to endure wrath of sibling |
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| 13:55.53 | sgk284 | jpa-, hey! :) |
| 13:57.14 | jpa- | sgk284 <33<3<33< |
| 13:57.33 | ToughShooter | Hi sgk284 |
| 14:13.26 | jolie | uhm |
| 14:13.33 | jolie | what time is it now where jeff lives? |
| 14:14.01 | Grumbler | 7:13 |
| 14:14.13 | jolie | ... thx |
| 14:14.31 | Grumbler | ur elcum |
| 14:14.37 | jolie | >=( |
| 14:14.41 | Grumbler | ? |
| 14:14.46 | jolie | im NOT any EL cum ... |
| 14:15.12 | Grumbler | you are welcome -> ur elcum |
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| 14:17.10 | sgk284 | hey ToughShooter |
| 14:17.17 | sgk284 | jpa- <3<3 |
| 14:17.21 | sgk284 | its been a while :) |
| 14:17.39 | jpa- | a too long while |
| 14:18.34 | sgk284 | heh well i started a new job and have been busy :/ |
| 14:24.19 | ToughShooter | ~seen Aribeth |
| 14:24.28 | ibot | aribeth <~Aribeth@dsl081-067-057.sfo1.dsl.speakeasy.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 16d 15h 33m 29s ago, saying: 'send him a present'. |
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| 15:12.02 | Pimpinella | Ice_Wewe_Playing: jeffM added a new option to the base object in bzw named "oncap" |
| 15:12.09 | Pimpinella | this might help u |
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| 15:13.54 | Tupone | heya orchid |
| 15:14.21 | orchid | ciao Tupone |
| 15:19.39 | learner | pwd |
| 15:19.49 | learner | hmm :) |
| 15:19.52 | jolie | morning learner |
| 15:19.55 | blast007 | :) |
| 15:20.00 | Tupone | hey learner, ciao |
| 15:20.01 | Chestal | /home/brlcad |
| 15:20.04 | Pimpinella | Ice_Wewe_Playing: took a look at it: create your world weapon, don't use "initdelay" and "delay" options, but options "triger" and "capteam" options instead |
| 15:20.18 | learner | good morning ebrybobby |
| 15:20.24 | CBG | Morning all... |
| 15:20.45 | jpa- | good morning lebranerd |
| 15:20.56 | Pimpinella | capteam 1 for red capteam 2 for green and so on. capteam -1 for all teams |
| 15:21.32 | Pimpinella | then add the "oncap" option to the specific base |
| 15:22.52 | DTRemenak | morning learner |
| 15:23.07 | CBG | .... |
| 15:23.20 | DTRemenak | and others |
| 15:23.22 | Pimpinella | capturing the base's flag will triger all world weapons specified with the appropriate capteam option |
| 15:23.22 | learner | howdy DTRemenak .. all done now right? |
| 15:23.27 | CBG | :D |
| 15:23.36 | DTRemenak | learner: goodness no, three more weeks or such |
| 15:23.46 | Pimpinella | ~dict triger |
| 15:23.53 | jolie | +g |
| 15:23.55 | Pimpinella | ~dict trigger |
| 15:24.28 | Pimpinella | hmm, think jeff meant this one, no? |
| 15:24.40 | learner | DTRemenak: wouldnt' that be "badness" then? |
| 15:24.43 | ToughShooter | Hmm, CVS still not compiling :( |
| 15:24.59 | jolie | uhm.. |
| 15:25.07 | DTRemenak | learner: I prefer to keep a positive perspective...I still have three weeks to raise my grades :) |
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| 15:25.47 | ToughShooter | http://pastebin.com/288424 |
| 15:27.15 | Pimpinella | hm, you have STL installed? |
| 15:27.24 | ToughShooter | STL? |
| 15:27.44 | ToughShooter | I know I've installed c-ares but it isn't recocnized.. |
| 15:28.00 | ToughShooter | ~ STL |
| 15:28.02 | ibot | i heard stl is fine, it's jsut the implemenations / compielr that suck |
| 15:28.02 | Tupone | SDL :-) |
| 15:28.13 | Pimpinella | no stl |
| 15:28.22 | ToughShooter | Jup, libsdl from source |
| 15:28.23 | DTRemenak | ToughShooter: rdynamic is default behavior on osx. switch should probably be removed. |
| 15:28.42 | DTRemenak | also on irix, solaris... |
| 15:28.46 | Tupone | stl ? is in the compiler, no ? |
| 15:29.04 | Pimpinella | yeah, should |
| 15:29.13 | ToughShooter | I got it compiling at 17th this month with a little fix |
| 15:29.39 | Pimpinella | many changes since then |
| 15:30.16 | learner | stl is generally implemented as just a set of headers, tied to a revision of g++ |
| 15:30.53 | ToughShooter | DTRemenak: Sorry, dunno how to change it |
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| 15:32.22 | DTRemenak | ToughShooter: probably needs to be changed to a configure test to avoid breaking linux and any other platforms that need it. Have learner or tupone do it :) |
| 15:33.12 | DTRemenak | hehe |
| 15:35.23 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/ChangeLog: speling |
| 15:39.15 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/ (7 files in 2 dirs): hooks for plugin to overide perms sent to clients on playerInfo |
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| 16:29.43 | jolie | ^_^ |
| 16:31.47 | jpa- | ^¯^ |
| 16:34.27 | learner | lunchtime diversion: http://bzflag.bz/tmp/trunk/ |
| 16:34.40 | Ice_Wewe_Playing | lol |
| 16:34.41 | Ice_Wewe_Playing | bye |
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| 16:36.16 | Pimpinella | cvs buils fine here |
| 16:36.47 | JeffM2501 | did I break anything recently? |
| 16:37.46 | Pimpinella | dunno, but ToughShooter had ld errors |
| 16:38.00 | JeffM2501 | on what OS? |
| 16:38.08 | Pimpinella | osx |
| 16:38.11 | Pimpinella | http://pastebin.com/288424 |
| 16:38.44 | JeffM2501 | he'll have to do --disable-plugins |
| 16:38.49 | JeffM2501 | since he dosn't have rdyanmic stuff |
| 16:39.16 | Pimpinella | ToughShooter: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
| 16:42.25 | learner | should be either -dynamic and/or -mdynamic_no_pic or somesuch |
| 16:42.26 | JeffM2501 | don't think anyone has worked on the lib loading for OSX yet |
| 16:42.51 | JeffM2501 | learner the makefile only has linux stuff in it, nothing mac specific for it. Tupone did it for me |
| 16:42.56 | learner | rdynamic is an x86 gccism, iirc |
| 16:43.04 | JeffM2501 | you may want to tweak it |
| 16:43.36 | learner | if by "tweak" you mean "gut it for a full/new GBS build", then sure ;) |
| 16:43.41 | bryjen | there's also --export-dynamic which is supposed to be the same |
| 16:44.10 | learner | also -undefined dynamic for library resolution |
| 16:44.27 | learner | though that would be discourageable |
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| 16:48.05 | BearPerson | at least until the code drops below 3 commits a day ;-) |
| 16:48.47 | JeffM2501 | all it does do is enable the API |
| 16:48.57 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't care what the API is |
| 16:49.15 | JeffM2501 | it should be default on apple untill it's fixed to work properly on mac tho |
| 16:49.31 | JeffM2501 | aka default to off on any system that can't do plugins |
| 16:50.39 | BenUrban | the mac plugins could be done directly with xcode |
| 16:50.56 | BenUrban | but, judging from what i've seen so far, i doubt that's how you want to do it |
| 16:51.26 | BenUrban | i presume you'd like some kind of correlation between the result and the common plugin build process |
| 16:51.32 | BenUrban | correct? |
| 16:51.53 | JeffM2501 | you would be incorect |
| 16:52.01 | JeffM2501 | the swittch does not build any plugins |
| 16:52.11 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 16:52.13 | JeffM2501 | it just enables the plugin loader in bzfs |
| 16:52.19 | BenUrban | ohh |
| 16:52.21 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 16:52.27 | JeffM2501 | no plugins are built as part of the normal build process |
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| 16:52.42 | BenUrban | dunno how osx handles plugins |
| 16:52.51 | JeffM2501 | we do |
| 16:52.57 | BenUrban | rather, dunno how it handles plugin loading |
| 16:52.57 | JeffM2501 | it's just not implemented yet |
| 16:52.59 | BenUrban | ah |
| 16:52.59 | BenUrban | ok |
| 16:53.05 | JeffM2501 | it's just library loading |
| 16:54.27 | JeffM2501 | well yeah any dev version will change fast |
| 16:54.38 | JeffM2501 | you don't want to use head for anything you need as stable |
| 16:54.44 | JeffM2501 | head is kind of the "playground" |
| 16:55.57 | PrezKennedy | thats where all the cool peeps hang out |
| 16:57.14 | BearPerson | hehe |
| 16:57.18 | CBG | Surely the cool peeps hang out round the back of the bike sheds? |
| 16:57.33 | BearPerson | HEAD is round the back of the bike sheds ;-) |
| 16:58.02 | BearPerson | (and DEAD BODY and LEG and... ) ;-) |
| 16:58.07 | CBG | Lol. |
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| 17:02.51 | learner | imo, people should not be working off of cvs head if they don't know how to resolve code problems themselves |
| 17:03.28 | learner | otherwise the noise ratio is just too high helping random people work through build issues that are merely just incomplete |
| 17:04.20 | PrezKennedy | thinking back on it... i havent touched linux in about 5 months :-\ |
| 17:04.35 | jolie | eeeeeeeeeeeek |
| 17:04.37 | learner | at worst, it might warrant adding a STABLE tag to track when the last known working build was, but otherwise that's what you get with head |
| 17:05.01 | learner | perhaps mitigate the delay by posting releases more frequently |
| 17:05.18 | learner | smaller more automated increments |
| 17:07.46 | ToughShooter | ~dict mitigate |
| 17:09.33 | bryjen | hmm. ameliorate = to make better. mitigate = to make not so bad |
| 17:10.22 | learner | ;) |
| 17:12.08 | CBG | ibot: Thats a list of synonyms not a definition... |
| 17:19.10 | ToughShooter | learner: Is there a special reason why default builds lead to 23MB big executables for me? It seems they are not staticly linked.. |
| 17:19.39 | ToughShooter | I'm using command line, not Xcode |
| 17:20.50 | JeffM2501 | it's thinking difrerent |
| 17:21.07 | ToughShooter | Hmpf |
| 17:21.34 | jpa- | debug debug debug :) |
| 17:21.45 | ToughShooter | Some told me I should try to strip it but that hadn't worked |
| 17:21.52 | jpa- | it doesn't matter for anything else than just harddisk anyway |
| 17:22.00 | jpa- | strip should remove that stuff |
| 17:22.08 | ToughShooter | strip was unable to find the file |
| 17:22.19 | jpa- | hmm? |
| 17:23.11 | JeffM2501 | hmmm... to work or to test bzfs? |
| 17:24.10 | jpa- | i never found linux books very useful.. ok, it would have took much longer to figure 'dir' is 'ls' without :) |
| 17:24.48 | BearPerson | books? Those manpages in dead-tree-format? |
| 17:25.52 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Do it like I do. It just works for me when I programm something :) |
| 17:26.17 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 17:26.35 | ToughShooter | I don't need debugging |
| 17:26.45 | JeffM2501 | I meant do I do my real work |
| 17:26.48 | JeffM2501 | aka paying job |
| 17:26.49 | JeffM2501 | or test |
| 17:28.17 | ToughShooter | Compiling failed again: http://pastebin.com/288497 :( |
| 17:29.45 | JeffM2501 | were is the error |
| 17:29.50 | JeffM2501 | that's just a lot of warnings |
| 17:31.17 | ToughShooter | Hmpf, it stripped the end. http://pastebin.com/288498 |
| 17:32.20 | JeffM2501 | it's still using rdyanmic for something |
| 17:32.23 | ToughShooter | It seems to be the same error as before although using "./configure --disable-plugins" |
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| 17:32.34 | JeffM2501 | ask him :) |
| 17:32.44 | bryjen | the -rdynamic is not conditional in the bzfs Makefile |
| 17:33.00 | JeffM2501 | ohhh |
| 17:33.04 | JeffM2501 | it probably should be |
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| 17:36.29 | ToughShooter | Hmm, I removed "-rdynamic" but it still fails. http://pastebin.com/288501 |
| 17:37.20 | JeffM2501 | it's not liking regcomp ? |
| 17:37.25 | JeffM2501 | is that part of regex? |
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| 17:39.55 | ToughShooter | Maybe I was doing wrong...I've set "bzfs_LDFLAGS = " instead of .."= -rdynamic" in Makefile inside bzfs folder |
| 17:40.37 | BenUrban | iirc regcomp is a deprecated python module |
| 17:40.45 | Tupone | could you try -g3 hoping on get more info |
| 17:41.35 | JeffM2501 | bzflag dosn't use python |
| 17:41.49 | JeffM2501 | not directly |
| 17:42.12 | ToughShooter | Tupone: setting -g3 instead of -rdynamic? |
| 17:42.16 | Tupone | or remove -lregexp from the command line |
| 17:42.29 | Tupone | ../regex/libregex.a |
| 17:42.53 | Tupone | -rdynamic thinks is not hurting I suppose, just discarded |
| 17:43.07 | ToughShooter | I'm a bit lost right now. :( |
| 17:43.29 | Tupone | can you remove the ../regex/libregex.a from the command line ? |
| 17:43.51 | ToughShooter | Dunno how and what effect it will have in general |
| 17:44.02 | Tupone | go in src/bzfs ... paste the whole command replacing that |
| 17:44.33 | ToughShooter | Should I restore the old Makefile? |
| 17:44.43 | Tupone | nope |
| 17:44.49 | Tupone | just go in src/bzfs |
| 17:45.08 | ToughShooter | I'm inside |
| 17:45.11 | Tupone | get with the selection all the g++ command |
| 17:45.26 | ToughShooter | ? |
| 17:45.28 | Tupone | remove the libregex.a things |
| 17:45.32 | Tupone | mouse ? |
| 17:45.56 | Tupone | from g++ to -lm |
| 17:46.12 | Tupone | till -openGL |
| 17:46.15 | ToughShooter | there is no "libregex.a" inside this dir |
| 17:46.49 | Tupone | I know ... is ../regex/libregex.a |
| 17:47.07 | bryjen | copy and paste the very long line 2 from your last pastebin, but remove ../regex/libregex.a from the line before you press enter |
| 17:47.24 | Tupone | thanks bryjen |
| 17:48.54 | ToughShooter | aha |
| 17:49.36 | ToughShooter | Maybe I did wrong..it failed again: http://pastebin.com/288510 |
| 17:50.01 | bryjen | maybe you need configure --without-regex |
| 17:50.15 | Tupone | one problem is gone |
| 17:51.02 | bryjen | yes, now there is another one :/ |
| 17:51.31 | Tupone | instead of -O3 put -g3 |
| 17:51.33 | ToughShooter | Great :/ |
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| 17:52.14 | Tupone | the problem that are now, was even before, so a little better |
| 17:53.09 | Tupone | I don't trust optimization on gcc-4 :/ |
| 17:53.28 | JeffM2501 | you can tell 10.4 to use older GCC |
| 17:53.55 | Tupone | optimization schema has changed a lot, so I better compile with no optimization at first |
| 17:54.11 | ToughShooter | http://pastebin.com/288516 :( |
| 17:54.38 | ToughShooter | It worked at 17th of this month with gcc4 |
| 17:54.41 | Tupone | I hoped for more info :/ remove the -O2 too |
| 17:54.50 | ToughShooter | I patched a little thing then it worked |
| 17:55.30 | ToughShooter | http://pastebin.com/288517 |
| 17:55.58 | Tupone | can you do the patch again ? |
| 17:56.19 | ToughShooter | It was another problem that was fixed by either brlcad or learner |
| 17:56.52 | ToughShooter | So this is not necessary |
| 17:57.04 | Tupone | can you do a fresh build with --enable-debug ? |
| 17:57.12 | Tupone | that will remove optimization to all files |
| 17:57.16 | ToughShooter | fresh build? :o |
| 17:57.21 | Tupone | and also --without regexp |
| 17:57.35 | ToughShooter | k |
| 17:57.48 | Tupone | --without-regexp is better |
| 17:57.59 | Tupone | or regex ? |
| 17:58.02 | Tupone | lol |
| 17:58.15 | bryjen | you'll get there eventually ;) |
| 17:58.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/ (15 files in 5 dirs): ws |
| 17:59.03 | ToughShooter | compiling |
| 17:59.25 | Tupone | white space ? |
| 17:59.49 | ToughShooter | http://pastebin.com/288521 |
| 18:00.36 | Tupone | you miss the -- in front |
| 18:00.54 | Tupone | and to know what really is run ./configure --help |
| 18:01.04 | ToughShooter | stupid me |
| 18:06.17 | ToughShooter | Aww, I never get used to that /me style |
| 18:09.01 | learner | ToughShooter: yes, debug symbols and it does link static |
| 18:09.16 | learner | if strip says file not found, then you're not using it right |
| 18:09.52 | learner | as for the rdynamic, that's what I was talking about earlier about noise and taking up people's time on something that's simply incomplete :P |
| 18:10.11 | learner | no offense intended :) |
| 18:10.12 | ToughShooter | learner: When I upgraded OS my own builds didn't run because libsdl was missing. After installing libsdl they ran again. |
| 18:10.53 | jpa- | hmm, does it really link static? |
| 18:10.53 | ToughShooter | Doesn't sound like static linking to me |
| 18:10.56 | jpa- | doesn't seem so |
| 18:10.58 | learner | that would be because they are your builds, and it's dependant on how you build them |
| 18:11.21 | ToughShooter | just ./autogen.sh;./configure;make |
| 18:11.23 | learner | also depends what you are referring to exactly when you say "they" |
| 18:11.51 | ToughShooter | bzflag executables, not the whole boundles |
| 18:11.55 | jpa- | -rwxr-xr-x 1 jpa users 25M Apr 12 21:00 bzfs |
| 18:12.02 | learner | jpa-: it can and does for bz's libraries |
| 18:12.02 | jpa- | but ldd shows it is not static |
| 18:12.15 | learner | it doesn't for our external libs |
| 18:12.25 | *** part/#bzflag jolie (~alex@jolie.user) |
| 18:12.25 | learner | unless you ask it to |
| 18:12.45 | jpa- | ok, i just understood wrong then |
| 18:13.22 | learner | you can't simply say "it" or "they" and say a binary is linking static or dynamic/shared |
| 18:13.35 | learner | it can be different for every library |
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| 18:15.46 | ToughShooter | Failed again: http://pastebin.com/288535 |
| 18:16.14 | CBG | What texture is "tetrawall"? o.O |
| 18:16.38 | JeffM2501 | the white one |
| 18:16.48 | CBG | Its plain white? |
| 18:16.53 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 18:16.54 | JeffM2501 | mesh.png |
| 18:16.59 | ToughShooter | Look at it on a server :-p |
| 18:17.05 | JeffM2501 | actualy |
| 18:17.05 | CBG | Ok... |
| 18:17.05 | JeffM2501 | tetrawall.png |
| 18:17.16 | JeffM2501 | tho they are the same |
| 18:17.20 | learner | ToughShooter: it's the -rdynamic option like the error says -- make that go away, and build should be fixed |
| 18:17.23 | JeffM2501 | server dosnt' have png files |
| 18:17.24 | JeffM2501 | clients do |
| 18:17.50 | learner | why are you building from the latest cvs anyways? |
| 18:17.50 | ToughShooter | learner: So I should remove the -rdynamic again? |
| 18:18.08 | ToughShooter | I wanted to look at the new plugins... |
| 18:18.20 | JeffM2501 | plugins on mac are no no |
| 18:18.28 | JeffM2501 | the plugin makefiles aren't set to work on the 'tosh |
| 18:18.38 | BenUrban | ...yet |
| 18:18.56 | JeffM2501 | umm sure |
| 18:19.04 | CBG | wow. it's (tetrawall) soo interesting... lol. |
| 18:19.31 | CBG | That sounded ominous, Jeff. |
| 18:19.43 | JeffM2501 | CBG, that's why your supsoed to use real textures |
| 18:20.01 | CBG | JeffM2501: Where are the other 'real' textures located? |
| 18:20.02 | learner | ToughShooter: it's not ready yet, so you'll just have to wait |
| 18:21.01 | JeffM2501 | in that dir |
| 18:21.04 | JeffM2501 | or on the interweb |
| 18:21.10 | JeffM2501 | the interweb has MANY textures |
| 18:21.23 | CBG | "That dir" ? What dir? |
| 18:21.31 | JeffM2501 | data |
| 18:21.39 | JeffM2501 | the one that had your texture you just looked at in |
| 18:21.42 | CBG | oh. ok. |
| 18:22.05 | ToughShooter | learner: Ok. For the record it still doesn't work..http://pastebin.com/288539 |
| 18:22.40 | CBG | jeffM2501: I don't see a 'data' directory anywhere under bzflag or whatever. |
| 18:23.06 | CBG | JeffM2501: The only 'mesh.png' I have is a texture for macromedia fireworks. |
| 18:23.09 | learner | ToughShooter: thx, no surprise there |
| 18:23.15 | ToughShooter | It is in bzflag.app/Contents/Resources |
| 18:23.25 | CBG | Thanks. |
| 18:23.41 | JeffM2501 | CBG, huh? |
| 18:24.09 | bryjen | silly mac persons |
| 18:24.13 | BenUrban | hehe |
| 18:24.27 | BenUrban | most mac users don't even see that far in |
| 18:24.30 | ToughShooter | bryen: Grr |
| 18:24.31 | CBG | Nevermind, JeffM2501. The macOSX search does not seem to search for files within an .app. |
| 18:24.45 | CBG | ~whaleslap bryjen |
| 18:24.46 | ibot | ACTION slaps bryjen upside and over the head with one freakishly huge killer whale named hugh |
| 18:24.48 | BenUrban | CBG: you left out one word...automatically |
| 18:24.56 | ToughShooter | of course it does search within |
| 18:24.59 | CBG | ? |
| 18:25.10 | BenUrban | it will search in there if you tell it to |
| 18:25.20 | BenUrban | what do you want it to search for>? |
| 18:25.21 | CBG | yes, I told it to search EVERYWHERE... |
| 18:25.25 | BenUrban | oh |
| 18:25.32 | BenUrban | you did a file find |
| 18:25.34 | CBG | "mesh.png" |
| 18:25.36 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 18:25.43 | CBG | I did a CMD+F |
| 18:25.51 | ToughShooter | It depends on context.. |
| 18:25.54 | CBG | "Find" |
| 18:25.54 | BenUrban | mac likes to hide the details of app bundles from the average user |
| 18:26.03 | CBG | Thats what I said... kinda. |
| 18:26.15 | CBG | Me: "The macOSX search does not seem to search for files within an .app." |
| 18:26.16 | BenUrban | everything for the app can be found in its bundle |
| 18:26.21 | BenUrban | hehe |
| 18:26.22 | CBG | I know... |
| 18:26.33 | CBG | But I thought the FIND would search in there... |
| 18:26.41 | learner | CBG: yes it does to search inside the .app |
| 18:26.41 | BenUrban | you would think so |
| 18:26.44 | CBG | so when FIND didnt FIND it I thought maybe I didnt have it. |
| 18:26.49 | BenUrban | lol |
| 18:26.54 | CBG | learner: Ummm No. |
| 18:27.13 | learner | CBG: umm yes, how do you think the pointy clicky downloads work? |
| 18:27.29 | CBG | I just did a FIND for "mesh.png" and it only had one result which was unrelated. |
| 18:27.37 | CBG | point clikc downloads? what??? |
| 18:28.01 | learner | a find using finder or a unix find? |
| 18:28.10 | JeffM2501 | open your resources/data folder |
| 18:28.19 | ToughShooter | CBG: Maybe you should use grep instead of Finder :p |
| 18:28.28 | CBG | learner: I went to my finder and pressed CMD+F |
| 18:28.34 | bryjen | perhaps when he shouted "FIND" at the computer, he scared it ;) |
| 18:28.36 | CBG | JeffM2501: I have... |
| 18:28.44 | CBG | ToughShooter: What? |
| 18:28.45 | JeffM2501 | then it's in there |
| 18:28.45 | learner | CBG: that doesn't search into bundles |
| 18:29.00 | JeffM2501 | if your 2.0 at least |
| 18:29.03 | CBG | Learner: Thats what i am saying!!!!!!!! |
| 18:29.16 | CBG | JeffM2501: I know. I found it already. |
| 18:29.30 | ToughShooter | JeffM2051: As far as I see it the contents of data folder is in Resources folder |
| 18:30.01 | learner | CBG: i was responding to an earlier comment of yours apparently |
| 18:30.14 | CBG | *sigh*. |
| 18:30.36 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, it is |
| 18:30.46 | JeffM2501 | since apple is "difrent" |
| 18:31.23 | learner | ahh, I see the mixup, I took your macosx search to mean bz's macosx search for files, not Finder's search for files |
| 18:31.28 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Oops, interpreted "resources/data" as path |
| 18:31.50 | learner | bzflag was the "it" I referred to |
| 18:32.12 | CBG | I thought you were being rude. Lol |
| 18:39.32 | CBG | ~bzfquery 81.103.45.91:5154 |
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| 18:39.58 | CBG | ~bzfquery cbg.kicks-ass.org:5154 |
| 18:40.19 | CBG | ~bzfquery server.kaziaz.com:5154 |
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| 20:28.45 | Tupone | alex :) |
| 20:28.55 | jolie | tupo mio! |
| 20:29.32 | Tupone | tupa mia :) |
| 20:29.55 | jolie | :) |
| 20:30.12 | Grumbler | well, at least the hugging has gone down |
| 20:30.27 | jolie | jpa- is zz thats why. |
| 20:30.41 | Grumbler | ha |
| 20:31.46 | bryjen | ~x it en tupo |
| 20:32.07 | jolie | tupito =) |
| 20:32.14 | Grumbler | well, that was informative |
| 20:33.02 | bryjen | ya, "I don't know" or something would be better than sending original word back |
| 20:33.18 | Tupone | tupone -> tupo -> topo -> mouse ----- while tupa -> topa -> female mouse :) |
| 20:33.58 | Grumbler | so where is tupane |
| 20:34.02 | jolie | you forgot tupito |
| 20:34.32 | Tupone | I wonder if you know the meaning of "female of mouse" in jargon :) |
| 20:34.58 | jolie | i think i preffer not ot |
| 20:35.02 | Tupone | lol |
| 20:35.29 | Grumbler | so long as it doesnt have anything to do with pussy cats, i think we are safe |
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| 20:36.00 | jolie | ^_^ |
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| 21:07.17 | jolie | ^_^ |
| 21:07.30 | menotume | JeffM2501: Was the listserver changed recently ? |
| 21:07.40 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 21:07.48 | menotume | so as to not allow global login on private (bad -publicaddr name) |
| 21:07.54 | menotume | hmmm, okies, thx |
| 21:08.02 | JeffM2501 | it's never allowed global login on private |
| 21:08.06 | JeffM2501 | that has never been a feature |
| 21:08.20 | menotume | Gu used to have it working somehow |
| 21:08.35 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 21:08.53 | menotume | they used to have a private server using global lgin |
| 21:09.06 | menotume | i ASSUMED that they just gave a bad -publicaddr |
| 21:09.11 | menotume | perhpas not |
| 21:09.23 | JeffM2501 | doubt it |
| 21:09.32 | ruskie | hmmm I think with a badpubaddr it owuldn't really work would it? |
| 21:09.37 | JeffM2501 | unless somone changed something in the server to get the login |
| 21:10.11 | menotume | dunno. dunno how connections are made |
| 21:16.29 | JeffM2501 | the token stuff is allways handled via the list server ,and non publics don't do list server |
| 21:17.20 | menotume | I was thinking you set a server as public, but then do: -publicaddr "invalid.com:5156" |
| 21:17.35 | menotume | but, i just tried it, didn't work |
| 21:17.41 | JeffM2501 | don't see how that would work |
| 21:17.49 | JeffM2501 | that just sets the data -public uses |
| 21:17.54 | menotume | ok, i didn't see why it wouldn't :) |
| 21:18.20 | menotume | wouldn't bzfs still open a connection as needed to the list server ? |
| 21:18.38 | JeffM2501 | as far as I know, only -public triggers that |
| 21:18.47 | JeffM2501 | -publicaddr is just an option for that |
| 21:18.50 | menotume | ok, but -public is set |
| 21:19.09 | menotume | nvm i'll try to look at the code tonight |
| 21:19.27 | menotume | if it can be done server-side only, maybe i'll submit a patch |
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| 21:23.59 | JeffM2501 | it should be server only |
| 21:24.09 | JeffM2501 | I think the client allways sends it's token |
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| 21:26.04 | jolie | my api? |
| 21:26.17 | JeffM2501 | you have your own API? |
| 21:26.31 | jolie | depending on what you wanna expose to me.... |
| 21:26.42 | creeperz | hmm |
| 21:26.44 | JeffM2501 | have to export first |
| 21:27.02 | jolie | how big ur export? |
| 21:27.11 | JeffM2501 | well it's windows so it's rather bloated |
| 21:27.23 | jolie | ah no.. |
| 21:27.36 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: well, that tick thing would be nice :) |
| 21:27.42 | jolie | sorry as a linux babe... i must say no, i have to protect myself.. windowsn is a nono |
| 21:27.53 | JeffM2501 | dude I did the tick thing |
| 21:27.57 | purple_cow | you did? |
| 21:28.03 | JeffM2501 | I think so |
| 21:28.10 | JeffM2501 | jolie, well I can dual boot |
| 21:28.19 | JeffM2501 | let me look |
| 21:28.47 | JeffM2501 | ohh I have to do the DLL thing |
| 21:29.36 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, |
| 21:29.37 | JeffM2501 | BZF_API float bz_getMaxWaitTime ( void ); |
| 21:29.37 | JeffM2501 | BZF_API void bz_setMaxWaitTime ( float time ); |
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| 21:31.35 | JeffM2501 | those are the ones you want |
| 21:37.14 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/api_notes: notes on what needs to be done still |
| 21:37.16 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/PyBZFlag.cpp: yep, getting lots of paid work done today. stub out bindings for the wait time funcs |
| 21:37.29 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, you and me both :) |
| 21:38.51 | purple_cow | i'm on the ultimate in flex time this summer |
| 21:39.32 | purple_cow | i don't have an office to work in, and the one person i might meet with is out of town for the next month, so i just talk with her over email if i need something |
| 21:47.03 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/ (PyBZFlag.cpp test.py): add implementation for wait time functions |
| 21:48.37 | CBG | So whats the dela with bzfs plugins for mac os? |
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| 21:49.46 | CBG | *deal |
| 21:49.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/test.py: printing 'tick' every half a second is annoying |
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| 21:51.58 | bryjen | guess she didn't want to continue the analogy on to what "dual boot" might've meant ;) |
| 21:56.05 | Tupone | I wonder if someone want to test this for me - on M$ - http://bzflag.tupone.dyndns.org/bzflag.tgz |
| 21:56.31 | Tupone | someone with some skill :( |
| 21:58.27 | menotume | good, i'm safe |
| 21:58.38 | Tupone | for windows or for skill ? |
| 21:58.45 | menotume | both, actually |
| 21:58.48 | Tupone | lol |
| 21:58.58 | menotume | i have a WinDoze laptop, but never got bz working on it |
| 21:59.16 | menotume | well, it _works_, but not playable |
| 21:59.21 | Tupone | why not test it ? I wanna before making change to CVS |
| 21:59.33 | menotume | what are you looking for ? |
| 21:59.44 | menotume | it's really not payable on there |
| 21:59.46 | Tupone | 1st, if it works. Build from linux |
| 21:59.53 | menotume | unless you are looking for something specific |
| 22:00.11 | menotume | ? |
| 22:00.19 | Tupone | 2nd, I want to see if it can switch from native to SDL |
| 22:00.29 | Tupone | via some BZDB variable |
| 22:00.34 | menotume | ahh |
| 22:00.43 | menotume | what is in the tgz ? |
| 22:00.52 | Tupone | should be all files |
| 22:01.01 | menotume | ohhh, i can't build M$ |
| 22:01.11 | Tupone | they are already built |
| 22:01.15 | Tupone | they are there |
| 22:01.17 | menotume | ahh |
| 22:01.24 | menotume | okies, lemme look |
| 22:01.33 | menotume | windows / tgz - consued me |
| 22:01.38 | menotume | confused |
| 22:03.21 | JeffM2501 | what is a reactor? |
| 22:03.47 | menotume | Tupone: I can't connect |
| 22:04.34 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: it's basically a main-loop for twisted |
| 22:05.01 | purple_cow | so you can ask the reactor to listen on ports, etc, and it will handle all the select stuff for you |
| 22:05.33 | JeffM2501 | ahhh |
| 22:05.55 | JeffM2501 | so you want to tie one into like the bzfs net loop? or just into the tick things? |
| 22:06.57 | purple_cow | just into the ticks |
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| 22:07.33 | purple_cow | so i'll set a max wait time of something like 100ms, then do a 0-wait select inside the reactor to pick up any data that came in in that period |
| 22:07.51 | purple_cow | so you can do things like run a twisted.web server inside bzfs :) |
| 22:09.00 | JeffM2501 | sw33t |
| 22:09.34 | menotume | is that good ? "P |
| 22:09.37 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 22:09.43 | menotume | ok, sweet |
| 22:09.44 | JeffM2501 | specialy with the capital 3's |
| 22:10.12 | menotume | i mean it's good to run a webserver inside of bzfs ? |
| 22:11.15 | purple_cow | menotume: sure - it'd let you write a web admin script, for instance |
| 22:11.20 | menotume | ok, sweet :) |
| 22:12.11 | menotume | yay, admin thru webpages |
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| 22:14.04 | JeffM2501 | I should add a function to let the plugin call a / command |
| 22:14.22 | JeffM2501 | or just expose all the stuff |
| 22:14.35 | JeffM2501 | probably better for the later since the /command wants a user |
| 22:15.35 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/python.cpp: tracebacks are good |
| 22:21.53 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, where to look for plugins? in the exe dir? or in the config dir? |
| 22:23.17 | JeffM2501 | normaly bzfs dosn't use any dirs does it? |
| 22:23.46 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: well, standard unixey practice would be something like $(prefix)/lib/bzflag |
| 22:24.34 | TimRiker | purple_cow: that implies that the plugins are global. I would expect the value of having plugins would be that they could be local to a user, no? |
| 22:24.36 | JeffM2501 | windows has nothing like that |
| 22:24.43 | JeffM2501 | I was thinking of ./plugins |
| 22:25.08 | purple_cow | TimRiker: i'd like a global search path as well as a local one |
| 22:25.13 | JeffM2501 | you could have both global and locals |
| 22:25.16 | TimRiker | perhaps $(prefix)/lib/bzflag/plugins/ as well as ~/.bzf/<version>/plugins/ ? |
| 22:25.37 | purple_cow | so you can do something like bzfs -loadplugin python,test.py and it will just work, without needing to give a full path to python.so |
| 22:25.53 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, does bzfs use ~/bzf/ for anyting right now? |
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| 22:26.29 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: not that I can think of, though we're steering folks towards keeping maps in there. |
| 22:26.38 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 22:27.09 | JeffM2501 | so then on windows the my docs folder would be similar |
| 22:28.11 | JeffM2501 | the order I'm checking is, passed path, passed in path with extension, local user path with extension, exe dir /plugins with extension |
| 22:28.43 | JeffM2501 | since the mac dosn't have a "normal" file setup |
| 22:29.20 | TimRiker | sounds about right. |
| 22:29.40 | JeffM2501 | oh I sould be nice and say it just dosn't have a "traditional" setup :) |
| 22:30.26 | JeffM2501 | hmmm where was the code that bzflag uses for it's dirs moved too |
| 22:30.32 | JeffM2501 | wonder if I can just reuse it |
| 22:30.33 | TimRiker | or perhaps it's unconstrained by traditional implementations? |
| 22:30.46 | JeffM2501 | how bout just "wacky" |
| 22:30.50 | JeffM2501 | it's easyer to say |
| 22:30.51 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 22:33.40 | JeffM2501 | hmm does bzfs use game ? |
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| 22:37.27 | JeffM2501 | ok so getConfigDirName()/plugins/pluginname ? |
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| 22:43.08 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/python.cpp: add a bunch of import garbage to try to get this working |
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| 22:48.21 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/ (BZReactor.py test-twisted.py): add the twisted stuff. looks like all my problems are in fact a messed up setup. guess i'll try this on the laptop in a few |
| 22:48.51 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03davidtrowbridge * 10bzflag/plugins/python/.cvsignore: quiet! |
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| 23:05.18 | purple_cow | svn? |
| 23:06.05 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: i'd like the ability to verify username/passwords and get perms for players who aren't logged in, if possible :) |
| 23:07.55 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 23:08.10 | JeffM2501 | how would that even work with global? |
| 23:08.21 | JeffM2501 | or do you just mean expose the local database? |
| 23:09.23 | purple_cow | i just want to be able to have people log into a web interface exactly as they would with a client/bzadmin |
| 23:09.51 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 23:10.00 | JeffM2501 | could expose the token thing |
| 23:19.11 | purple_cow | hmm, same problem here |
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| 23:25.50 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, with global the server never gets passwords, it's all token based |
| 23:25.56 | JeffM2501 | but maybe I can get it to to fake it |
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| 23:28.46 | purple_cow | ah |
| 23:28.55 | purple_cow | maybe i can implement the token stuff in python... |
| 23:29.15 | JeffM2501 | maybe |
| 23:29.24 | JeffM2501 | well probably |
| 23:29.27 | JeffM2501 | since it's just a web hit |
| 23:29.43 | *** join/#bzflag triclops (~triclops@c211-31-49-112.rivrw7.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 23:30.00 | JeffM2501 | now what I need to do is expose the group permisions thing for you |
| 23:30.06 | *** join/#bzflag wegstar (~foo@wegstar.user.allegro) |
| 23:30.12 | JeffM2501 | so once you have the user and what groups they are in, you can see what they have perms for |
| 23:50.07 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o orchid] by JeffM2501 |
| 23:50.23 | wegstar_away | hey noyb, long time no see ;) |
| 23:50.41 | noyb | yep... I'm quite the lurker... sorry. |
| 23:50.49 | wegstar_away | o |
| 23:51.17 | noyb | I've been on since the 6th of may... |
| 23:51.59 | wegstar_away | um... oh ok |
| 23:52.19 | noyb | my sarcasm meter is pegged... |
| 23:53.56 | noyb | I wasn't tryin' to drag you back.. |
| 23:54.04 | purple_cow | grumble |
| 23:54.17 | wegstar | ? |
| 23:54.39 | purple_cow | i'm including -lpython2.4 but it's not linking it in =/ |
| 23:58.08 | wegstar | here we go: |
| 23:58.09 | wegstar | [3/19/2005 4:48 PM] <ibot> noyb <~noyb@wbar2.lax1-4-8-213-215.dsl-verizon.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 21d 1h 25m 52s ago, saying: '~bzfquery bzflag.blah.pl:5257'. |
| 23:59.04 | noyb | I'm just going by my status window that says: Day changed to 06 May 2005 |