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| 00:26.09 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: whatcha buildin'? |
| 00:26.44 | JeffM2501 | ummm |
| 00:26.47 | JeffM2501 | something :) |
| 00:27.22 | JeffM2501 | just making sure I have the build systems in place before it starts ;) |
| 00:28.10 | JeffM2501 | and I figured I should learn the thing |
| 00:28.44 | purple_cow | uh oh :) |
| 00:35.59 | purple_cow | if it's what i think it is, be very afraid :) |
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| 02:37.42 | HappyConCrappy | Hey morons! I mean... friends! It's your favorite pappy, Happy Con Crappy! |
| 02:38.55 | HappyConCrappy | Hello to the third powerini? |
| 02:43.42 | spldart | There is a needle and a spoon in teh fridge. Knock yourself out. |
| 02:47.44 | HappyConCrappy | Spl, that was uncalled for to the third powerini! |
| 02:48.16 | HappyConCrappy | Thump, thump, the house is thumpin! Lolololol con lol! |
| 02:48.51 | HappyConCrappy | Thump, thump... the house.. is.. thum.. pi ih ihn. Thump, thump! |
| 02:50.29 | HappyConCrappy | Hey, so who'se with me? I say we take shooting out of BZFlag and replace it with kids with pies in their hands con lands. That's still a little violentay jay, but not as much. |
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| 02:51.08 | HappyConCrappy | And my IQ is smarter than all of you because it's smarter than Albert Einstein to the third powerini. I scored a 96 con lix and he scored a 165! |
| 02:51.22 | HappyConCrappy | Hey Thumpalumper! |
| 02:52.56 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*0cd6c3f5@webchat.bzflag.bz] by TimRiker |
| 02:53.06 | *** kick/#bzflag [HappyConCrappy!~timr@TimRiker.bronze.supporter.pdpc] by TimRiker (TimRiker) |
| 02:53.27 | purple_cow | TimRiker: that was fast |
| 02:53.52 | TimRiker | well, coulda been faster... chatting in other channels. ;-) |
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| 03:12.51 | Aribeth_away | heh, what a pest |
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| 03:21.54 | rkr | Boo. |
| 03:22.14 | rkr | Today I can be my UNIX username, rather than "RichardRauch", that legal fiction on my birth certificate... |
| 03:36.50 | menotume | thats kewl to the third powerini |
| 03:36.56 | menotume | :p |
| 03:39.45 | trepan | menotume: that kind of talk can get you banned ;) |
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| 04:18.18 | jolie | and |
| 04:18.20 | jolie | morning |
| 04:21.11 | rkr | Boo, Jolie. |
| 04:21.22 | rkr | Got rid of the sand, yet? |
| 04:21.51 | jolie | oh yeah, cleaned very carefully |
| 04:22.05 | jolie | and you are ... |
| 04:22.09 | jolie | oh , you |
| 04:22.11 | rkr | (^& Another day, then... |
| 04:22.31 | rkr | Yeah, me. I've been me all my life. I tried to be someone else, but... |
| 04:22.49 | jolie | deep |
| 04:23.19 | jolie | too early for that definition of who you are ...and such. |
| 04:24.02 | rkr | Bah. (waves paw in Dogbert fashion) |
| 04:24.46 | jolie | i miss jeff. |
| 04:30.34 | jolie | wich dont work. |
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| 04:35.19 | Pimpi | jolie: your local wizard just arrived |
| 04:35.45 | Pimpi | at least dev wizard according to bzbb ;) |
| 04:35.52 | jolie | lol* |
| 04:36.07 | jolie | morning Pimpi |
| 04:36.17 | Pimpi | hi ;) |
| 04:37.00 | Pimpi | and bye (some more work) |
| 04:37.11 | Pimpi | oh, and good morning Tupone |
| 04:37.18 | Tupone | morning |
| 04:39.48 | Tupone | I changed the interface to listServer from client. I wonder if someone had problem ... |
| 04:40.35 | jolie | TUPITO mio! |
| 04:41.21 | trepan | Tupone: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4171&highlight= |
| 04:44.24 | Tupone | it was urlencoded before. do you think going POST change that? :( |
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| 04:48.06 | bryjen | jolie's magic must be slow to start in the morning |
| 04:48.27 | jolie | yeah... |
| 04:48.34 | jolie | apparently... |
| 04:50.02 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: so do i have cause to be afraid? |
| 04:50.31 | JeffM2501 | not tonight |
| 04:51.15 | jolie | yeah not tonite... he isnt really here :D |
| 04:51.16 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o jolie] by JeffM2501 |
| 04:51.20 | jolie | ^_^ |
| 04:53.04 | purple_cow | hehe, ok |
| 04:56.24 | JeffM2501 | techincaly the phear has started |
| 04:56.29 | JeffM2501 | but only exists on my ipod |
| 04:56.48 | JeffM2501 | and since I am sleep deprived it will not see the light of day on this night |
| 04:57.06 | rkr | I dunno... |
| 04:57.36 | rkr | After one has been up enough hours, one gets this manic attitude about sleep. |
| 04:57.41 | rkr | plus, there's always coffee. |
| 04:58.06 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: i see |
| 04:58.43 | Tupone | CIA ? |
| 04:59.12 | rkr | BIA. AIM. FBI. FUD. IRS. |
| 05:06.13 | purple_cow | Tupone: huh. looks like it died. i'll try to get micah's attention |
| 05:06.45 | Tupone | ty, he missed my commit :) |
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| 05:18.12 | DeathByBl | Hi all |
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| 05:20.12 | DeathByBl | Anyone here intouch with Tim? |
| 05:22.28 | DeathByBl | Guess nobodies here, if you see him, could you ask him to check his mail at rikers, thanks |
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| 05:25.23 | purple_cow | GvzEvxre: check your mail at rikers! |
| 05:25.28 | purple_cow | :) |
| 05:25.57 | jolie | :( |
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| 08:22.50 | LePoulpe303 | Hi all |
| 08:31.04 | rkr | Hi. |
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| 10:29.11 | _Manu_ | KTL, Tiny bug is fixed in CVS |
| 10:29.23 | KTL | :-) |
| 10:30.09 | KTL | a day ago i was fixating my bug-nose on the angle of the shots when jumping and turning in air |
| 10:30.51 | KTL | i noticed that the objectives marked by the small square in the middle of the screen are not hit by laser or thief |
| 10:31.20 | _Manu_ | it works fine for me, or I think so |
| 10:31.20 | KTL | and know i don't know what to say about it anymore because i don't understand it anymore |
| 10:31.40 | KTL | well, take a thief, fly at full speed near a target |
| 10:31.53 | KTL | and shoot it with an angle perpendicular to your flight |
| 10:31.57 | _Manu_ | I usually do it |
| 10:32.01 | KTL | using the square |
| 10:32.38 | _Manu_ | as reference? |
| 10:32.51 | KTL | i do that too, but based on feelings not on what my eye sees , idd, that square should be a reference i think |
| 10:33.13 | _Manu_ | yes, i use my visual sense.. and the square too |
| 10:33.40 | KTL | but anyway, i simply don't understand the whole targetting thing anymore :-) |
| 10:34.04 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 10:34.18 | KTL | it seems that the angle for a beam and bullets are the same |
| 10:34.56 | KTL | bullets seem to have a bad angle, which could be to have some effect from the speed of the tank |
| 10:35.00 | _Manu_ | well some things changed in 2.0 |
| 10:35.04 | KTL | but laser should go straight ahead |
| 10:35.11 | KTL | bwa this is old |
| 10:35.38 | _Manu_ | shots are tank speed dependant |
| 10:36.11 | _Manu_ | and about angle, some things can be adjusted using server vars |
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| 14:20.09 | BearPerson | _Manu_, ping? |
| 14:20.17 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, pong |
| 14:20.22 | BearPerson | good |
| 14:20.39 | BearPerson | I just had something that reminded me of the old "empry slot" days |
| 14:21.07 | _Manu_ | what is it? |
| 14:21.21 | BearPerson | banned someone by IP and got "[Admin] SERVER: banned by BearPerson, reason: rejoining" |
| 14:21.54 | _Manu_ | ah yes |
| 14:22.08 | _Manu_ | that's an used slot |
| 14:22.24 | BearPerson | funny it should be occupied by a mass rejoiner |
| 14:22.51 | _Manu_ | yes, still dunno why some times a player keeps more than one slot |
| 14:23.16 | _Manu_ | then when you ban him, the server frees all the used slots for that player |
| 14:24.00 | BearPerson | interesting |
| 14:24.55 | _Manu_ | and as all except one are invalids.. shows "" (empty) for their callsigns |
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| 14:44.45 | BearPerson | lol... I think I gotta remember that one |
| 14:45.34 | BearPerson | "I can't remember what the command was to just let my client ignore you... so I'd have to use /mute" |
| 14:46.18 | Grumbler | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:46.48 | BearPerson | :) |
| 14:47.02 | BearPerson | but probably saying that makes them nicely quiet too :) |
| 14:48.04 | _Manu_ | usually pressing K key can SILENCE/UNSILENCE a player |
| 14:48.14 | BearPerson | 3 people joining from the same IP - does that mean anything? |
| 14:48.27 | BearPerson | 2 of them joining pretty much at the same instant |
| 14:48.37 | _Manu_ | that's mean three players sharing a net |
| 14:50.05 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, for silence/unsilence K key and arrow keys for navigating along the players names |
| 14:55.45 | BearPerson | _Manu_, can you kick people for not spawning until something interesting happens at their base? |
| 14:56.03 | jpa_ | idle kick.. |
| 15:02.01 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, the server acually does it.. idle kick |
| 15:02.09 | BearPerson | nice |
| 15:02.30 | Grumbler | sounds like you need to change the setting |
| 15:03.22 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, viper is actually 600 s for idlekick |
| 15:04.06 | BearPerson | weird |
| 15:04.15 | BearPerson | he had >660 when I kicked him |
| 15:04.20 | _Manu_ | 10 minutes |
| 15:04.24 | BearPerson | ah, no |
| 15:04.28 | BearPerson | 360 he was :) |
| 15:04.32 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 15:04.52 | BearPerson | but I think he was waiting to spawn at base, which I think very unfair |
| 15:04.58 | _Manu_ | is the same for pause |
| 15:05.14 | _Manu_ | users |
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| 15:06.14 | _Manu_ | well i usually kick players because idling/paussing if the server is full and some players waiting |
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| 15:07.00 | _Manu_ | I know players that usually plays at work.. so they pauses when the boss is near |
| 15:07.02 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 15:07.31 | BearPerson | :) |
| 15:07.46 | BearPerson | I just wish bzflag wouldn't auto-pause when you minimize... loses my flag |
| 15:08.02 | BearPerson | but now I have F3 on window mode it's quite fine :) |
| 15:08.37 | _Manu_ | well you can press F1 and turn off confine mouse |
| 15:08.59 | _Manu_ | then you don't lose the flag |
| 15:09.39 | BearPerson | huh!? |
| 15:09.57 | _Manu_ | F1 actives window mode.. and confine mouse is at options |
| 15:10.10 | _Manu_ | then you can remove the focus from bzflag windows |
| 15:10.12 | BearPerson | ah |
| 15:10.38 | _Manu_ | you can define as you want ;) |
| 15:10.45 | BearPerson | it was undefined, so :) |
| 15:11.03 | _Manu_ | mine is F1 default :/ |
| 15:14.18 | spldart | I've been known to bail a game with F12 at work :eek: |
| 15:18.52 | Grumbler | pull! |
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| 15:19.19 | bearpers0n | TEMPTATION!!!! >=) |
| 15:19.34 | bearpers0n | :D |
| 15:19.36 | bz4957 | im a new player what should i read |
| 15:19.41 | _Manu_ | mmm Bear-bunny... bad mix :) |
| 15:19.43 | bz4957 | i dont know how to play bzflag |
| 15:20.16 | Grumbler | ~dutchrai |
| 15:21.11 | Grumbler | bz4957< there are various helps from the bzflag.org.......dutchrai has a site and there are couple of topics in the forum |
| 15:22.16 | Grumbler | bz4957< http://shellshock.bzflag.bz/index.html |
| 15:24.13 | Grumbler | pull! |
| 15:24.44 | BearPerson | push! |
| 15:24.58 | spldart | Shove! ??? |
| 15:25.15 | BearPerson | pop! |
| 15:25.38 | BearPerson | ibot is case-insensitive? |
| 15:26.19 | Birdie | hm no one gave a command? |
| 15:26.23 | _Manu_ | bots are insensitive ;) |
| 15:28.00 | ToughShooter | I want to have a look at effects but bzflag doesn't compile: http://pastebin.com/300359 Searching for a file named "config.sub" on hard disk showed no found files. |
| 15:28.53 | bz4957 | how do i know if its a team game? |
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| 15:29.56 | ToughShooter | It seems to be echo from lines 1381-1382 in configure |
| 15:30.15 | bz4957 | how do you jump? |
| 15:30.29 | bz4957 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:30.37 | Birdie | typing is "n" |
| 15:30.40 | Birdie | jump is "tab" |
| 15:31.02 | Birdie | but you can all find that in options.. |
| 15:31.33 | ToughShooter | Input settings -> Change Key Mapping |
| 15:31.48 | bryjen | ToughShooter: config.sub is mabye generated by ./configure? |
| 15:32.00 | bryjen | s/mabye/maybe/ |
| 15:32.21 | bryjen | or autogen.sh ? |
| 15:32.24 | Chestal | should be created by autogen.sh |
| 15:32.27 | ToughShooter | Doesn't seem so. I would rather bet it should be done via autogen.sh |
| 15:32.37 | _Manu_ | bz4957, start here: http://bzflag.org/help/ |
| 15:33.27 | Chestal | ToughShoot: it's usualyl a symlink to or a copy of a file like /usr/share/automake-1.9/config.sub |
| 15:33.49 | bz4957 | _Manu_: that really don't say how to play |
| 15:34.05 | Grumbler | bz4957< http://shellshock.bzflag.bz/index.html |
| 15:34.09 | Chestal | ToughShooter: but I don't really know anythign about the auto*-stuff |
| 15:34.16 | Grumbler | there are many manuals there.....read them |
| 15:34.44 | ToughShooter | Chestal: tnx |
| 15:35.07 | ToughShooter | Copying them by hand from /usr/share/automake-1.6/ works |
| 15:36.25 | Chestal | works for me at home with automake 1.9 and at work with 1.4 (I think) |
| 15:36.53 | _Manu_ | bz4957, a quick quide: use mouse for moves, Tab key for Jumping, Enter for firing, Space key for drop your flag |
| 15:37.43 | bz4957 | im in a server now |
| 15:37.46 | bz4957 | they have two teams |
| 15:37.55 | bz4957 | is it capture the flag or is it just kill everyone? |
| 15:37.58 | ToughShooter | http://pastebin.com/300367 |
| 15:38.00 | Birdie | if you registered a nick, some one else can use ops with your nick without identifying? |
| 15:38.22 | _Manu_ | CTF is when you can see colourized bases.. |
| 15:38.42 | _Manu_ | then you must kill enemies (different tank colour than your) |
| 15:39.06 | _Manu_ | and try to capture their team flag.. sames colour as team |
| 15:39.52 | bz4957 | do they have invisible flag? |
| 15:40.42 | _Manu_ | there is a CL flag.. cloack that makes you invisible when pick up it |
| 15:40.46 | bz4957 | _Manu_: your in this server? |
| 15:40.56 | bz4957 | _Manu_: I'm zenlunatic in this server |
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| 15:41.51 | _Manu_ | i'm in viper.pimpi.org:5158 |
| 15:42.12 | _Manu_ | yes i see you |
| 15:42.15 | bz4957 | cool |
| 15:42.23 | bz4957 | talk to me in there if you don't min |
| 15:42.25 | bz4957 | mind |
| 15:42.32 | _Manu_ | you killed 2 teammates :/ |
| 15:42.38 | Birdie | lol |
| 15:42.50 | Birdie | dont shoot the same color as yourself |
| 15:42.52 | _Manu_ | remember, as you are blue, kill reds |
| 15:42.54 | Birdie | except if you are rogue |
| 15:43.29 | ToughShooter | only kill rogue when not playing rabbit mode |
| 15:43.56 | Birdie | thats hard propably to understand all of that in once:) |
| 15:44.40 | Birdie | its hard to stay allive as bunny |
| 15:44.51 | jolie | ... |
| 15:45.09 | ToughShooter | You just need to get used to be target of all |
| 15:45.24 | jolie | poor bunny :'( |
| 15:45.28 | bz4957 | its hard to aim |
| 15:45.32 | _Manu_ | Birdie, it depends |
| 15:45.33 | Birdie | even a white bunny! |
| 15:45.47 | jolie | can you stop saying bunny? |
| 15:45.53 | brlcad | bunny? |
| 15:45.55 | jolie | ... |
| 15:45.57 | jolie | ARGL |
| 15:45.57 | Birdie | well manu, if you have 7 8 rogues ready to kill you, you cant do much |
| 15:46.00 | Birdie | sorry jolie |
| 15:46.19 | jolie | brlcad: yes? |
| 15:46.38 | brlcad | jolie: you do know that there is a bunny-hunt mode? :) |
| 15:46.46 | Birdie | is what we talking about |
| 15:47.00 | jolie | i ve been knwing it since the last days... |
| 15:47.11 | jolie | when i see bunch of highligh on my screen >_< |
| 15:47.13 | Birdie | when we said we loved to kill bunnys |
| 15:47.38 | brlcad | :) |
| 15:47.39 | _Manu_ | Birdie, some times bunny bored me because nobody can kill me :( |
| 15:47.45 | jolie | aargl arrgl |
| 15:47.57 | brlcad | _Manu_: stop playing with the newbies :) |
| 15:48.02 | Birdie | well manu: you have to play to bunny chase with me than:) |
| 15:48.06 | _Manu_ | brlcad, lol |
| 15:48.11 | jolie | okay this is insane.. |
| 15:49.01 | bz4957 | um do you guys use mouse or arrow keys? |
| 15:49.13 | Birdie | mouse |
| 15:49.20 | brlcad | i wouldn't be surprised by that :) |
| 15:49.36 | Birdie | if you play bunny chase against experienced players and you have 5 of them vs you, you wont stay allive long:) |
| 15:49.56 | jolie | ... |
| 15:50.03 | *** join/#bzflag jomojo (~jomojo@c-24-17-68-130.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 15:50.10 | brlcad | haven't played in ages |
| 15:50.16 | _Manu_ | Birdie, there are really bad maps out there... lol (for playing rabbit mode) |
| 15:50.20 | brlcad | nor has learner |
| 15:50.38 | Birdie | yea you are like brothers;) |
| 15:51.29 | Birdie | manu: if its a really big map with much buildings you have a chance |
| 15:51.56 | _Manu_ | Birdie, yes and no SW limits too o_O |
| 15:52.13 | Birdie | :) |
| 15:52.21 | Birdie | ya no bunny to tk |
| 15:52.45 | _Manu_ | and OO in a map without SW or SB |
| 15:52.52 | brlcad | _Manu_: I'm not here ;) |
| 15:53.05 | _Manu_ | brlcad, i wrote brlcad? ;-p |
| 15:53.30 | _Manu_ | 1-0 for _Manu_ |
| 15:53.36 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 15:54.08 | bz4957 | im getting frustrated |
| 15:54.17 | bz4957 | i don't even know how to tell if im doing good |
| 15:54.17 | Birdie | who isnt |
| 15:54.26 | Birdie | press N to talk.. |
| 15:54.33 | _Manu_ | bz4957, well 2-29 and 2 tks not too bad for your first play |
| 15:54.53 | Birdie | certainly not on viper:s |
| 15:55.22 | _Manu_ | viper with 20 players is difficult to play for newbies |
| 15:55.28 | Birdie | for me to:/ |
| 15:55.36 | _Manu_ | i said newbies ;) |
| 15:55.36 | Birdie | one of the only servers i really have troubles to get a good score |
| 15:55.58 | Birdie | that and a ducati full of good players:) |
| 15:56.12 | _Manu_ | perhaps you jumps too much |
| 15:56.22 | _Manu_ | not in ducati.. |
| 15:56.35 | Birdie | i use ducati skill so i dont have to jump |
| 15:56.38 | Birdie | i hardly jump |
| 15:56.46 | bryjen | on ducati, you just _want_ to jump too much ;) |
| 15:56.56 | _Manu_ | yes, i also play ducati style for training |
| 15:57.11 | Birdie | ducati is fun once you have the skill to stay allive |
| 15:57.33 | _Manu_ | yes.. is good for one hand only players ;) |
| 15:57.44 | brlcad | _Manu_: no you didn't, I was just feeling guilty |
| 15:57.49 | Birdie | the first time i played there,...au:s |
| 15:57.53 | _Manu_ | brlcad, kidding :) |
| 15:58.05 | _Manu_ | brlcad, I know you aren't here.. you are there ;) |
| 15:58.27 | _Manu_ | brlcad, still in Boston? |
| 15:58.31 | bz4957 | i can't get on top of buildings |
| 15:58.33 | brlcad | yep |
| 15:58.57 | brlcad | listening to a talk on hierarchical spatial caching for implicit modeling systems right now.. fun stuff |
| 15:59.02 | _Manu_ | bz4957, try walk throw one of those teleporters at sides |
| 15:59.55 | jpa_ | what map? |
| 15:59.59 | _Manu_ | brlcad, :) |
| 16:00.21 | jpa_ | ah, viper |
| 16:02.08 | bz4957 | sometimes when i jump i spin |
| 16:02.32 | _Manu_ | bz4957, one of the most important rules: first in jump.. first in die |
| 16:02.46 | bz4957 | what does that mean? |
| 16:02.49 | Birdie | you should try to play non jumping servers first |
| 16:02.57 | _Manu_ | who jumps at first loses |
| 16:03.01 | Birdie | so you dont have to jump all the time, dodging bullets, and kill the guy who does jump |
| 16:03.02 | BearPerson | bz4957, when you jump you keep the turning speed you had when you start the jump |
| 16:03.20 | BearPerson | yeah... I'd suggest ducati maybe as a first server |
| 16:03.24 | bz4957 | how do i find non-jump servers? |
| 16:03.34 | _Manu_ | most of players has a jump 'tic' so.. easy to kill them when falling |
| 16:03.50 | BearPerson | it's marked somewhere in the server list, when you have a server under the cursor |
| 16:04.39 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, i don't recomends ducati to a newbie |
| 16:04.53 | _Manu_ | better one of those FFA servers and playing as rogue |
| 16:05.06 | BearPerson | yeah, probably |
| 16:05.17 | _Manu_ | good for getting some basic skill |
| 16:05.34 | BearPerson | hmm... I can't find a lot of no-jumping servers |
| 16:05.53 | Birdie | dub ducati |
| 16:05.56 | Birdie | for the rest..hm |
| 16:06.15 | Birdie | i started as newbie on guu |
| 16:06.18 | Birdie | gu* |
| 16:06.36 | _Manu_ | try deteremenak server.. FFA 10 shots.. |
| 16:06.40 | CBG | I used to play pillbox when i first started |
| 16:07.06 | BearPerson | I think I learned the basics pretty quickly on viper :) |
| 16:07.08 | CBG | try ducati.bzflag.org or dub.bzflag,org for non jumping servers :D |
| 16:07.12 | Birdie | its easyer from going non jumping to jumping, than from ffa to ducati.. |
| 16:07.19 | CBG | yeah, I used to play viper.pimpi too :) |
| 16:07.38 | Birdie | my first server was named rufus i think |
| 16:08.14 | _Manu_ | i started at defuncted Kernel Panic server... years ago |
| 16:08.38 | Birdie | the good old times:) |
| 16:09.07 | _Manu_ | yes, and I learned playing aginst the best players for those years.. like Dervish, Spaceman Spiff... |
| 16:09.43 | Birdie | hm Dervish is not that good |
| 16:09.49 | _Manu_ | not now.. |
| 16:10.05 | Birdie | :) |
| 16:10.06 | _Manu_ | he lost his skill because has been out 2 or three years |
| 16:10.20 | Birdie | ya and he bitch to people that own him |
| 16:10.40 | _Manu_ | heh, yes i know |
| 16:10.50 | Birdie | annoying as hell |
| 16:11.22 | _Manu_ | he is know like outdated... but he he continues playing.. will recover his skill |
| 16:12.01 | Birdie | i hope so for the other playres so he stops complaining:) |
| 16:12.11 | Grumbler | dervish, spiff....good????........nah |
| 16:12.28 | Birdie | lol the expert just said it |
| 16:12.33 | Birdie | (i dunno spiff, propably before my time) |
| 16:12.50 | _Manu_ | Grumbler, he was... years ago |
| 16:13.12 | Grumbler | grumbler owned them both :) |
| 16:13.13 | _Manu_ | Grumbler, They.. |
| 16:13.25 | Grumbler | razzberry was my only challenge |
| 16:13.40 | _Manu_ | Grumbler, i owned razz too ;-p |
| 16:13.48 | Birdie | who would you say that are the better players now (on the whole, who would be able to own on every server) |
| 16:14.07 | Grumbler | hard to say with 2.0 |
| 16:14.11 | _Manu_ | Grumbler, then he started changing his callsign |
| 16:14.25 | Grumbler | a lot of the better scorers have the worst lag |
| 16:14.47 | ToughShooter | I lost lots of skill with 2.0 but got very good with WG |
| 16:14.53 | Grumbler | _Manu_< yeah, every since the "incident" with turkey moongroup |
| 16:15.13 | _Manu_ | Grumbler, yes, I know.. but i saw razz playing 1.11 too |
| 16:15.19 | Grumbler | heh |
| 16:15.25 | _Manu_ | Grumbler, not in in 2.0, i think he left |
| 16:15.27 | Birdie | mikkel had a lag of 120, thats not high, and i think he is the best (in my eyes) |
| 16:15.42 | Grumbler | the lagstats dont show log |
| 16:15.44 | Grumbler | err, lag |
| 16:15.45 | _Manu_ | Birdie, 1vs1 |
| 16:15.53 | Birdie | challenge? |
| 16:16.07 | Grumbler | lots of players have jumpy tanks and their lag is below 100 |
| 16:16.22 | _Manu_ | Birdie, i mean mikkel skill |
| 16:16.24 | Grumbler | its what reallly ticks me off right now when i play |
| 16:16.29 | ToughShooter | High lag doesn't help playing, it rather prevents better scores |
| 16:16.43 | Birdie | grumbler: you mean some cheat with the lag? |
| 16:16.51 | Grumbler | i dont think its cheat |
| 16:16.57 | _Manu_ | Lag is allways a good excuse.. lol |
| 16:17.13 | Birdie | oh and manu: believe me mikko is more than 1vs1 |
| 16:17.23 | Grumbler | but when you fire at a tank and the bullet goes through and the tank suddenly appears behind you.... |
| 16:17.36 | Birdie | ya that sux |
| 16:17.39 | Birdie | mostly jitter |
| 16:18.07 | Grumbler | its real bad now with 2.0 |
| 16:18.07 | Birdie | hepcat and secret place are very laggy places for me, many bullets through |
| 16:18.07 | _Manu_ | I'm thinking in adding jitt kick too... |
| 16:18.07 | Grumbler | yeah, they used to be the best |
| 16:18.26 | Grumbler | ...well, maybe not hepcat, but sp was very consistent |
| 16:19.36 | Birdie | lol the first time i played secret place, i was there with a friend, and got banned because i spoke dutch |
| 16:19.44 | Grumbler | i wonder if sp is getting dos'd or something on a daily basis.....or if Nidhoggr lost some bandwidth |
| 16:20.06 | Birdie | sportchick told me its because the server is running from april till now without restarting |
| 16:20.07 | Grumbler | happens |
| 16:20.26 | _Manu_ | Birdie, I never saw mikkel playing in jumping servers.. so can't talk |
| 16:20.46 | Birdie | i did many times, i doubt 5 are better in ffa |
| 16:20.55 | _Manu_ | Birdie, once i player 1vs1 against him and he won me 10-8 |
| 16:20.57 | Birdie | his ratios:'( |
| 16:21.04 | Birdie | how long ago? |
| 16:21.10 | _Manu_ | Birdie, the second time i player 1vs1 |
| 16:21.20 | _Manu_ | well just before 2.0 arrived |
| 16:21.52 | _Manu_ | December if iirc or November |
| 16:22.13 | Birdie | dunno |
| 16:22.27 | Birdie | i know i dont know 10 persons who won the last 7 months against him in 1vs1 |
| 16:22.31 | _Manu_ | he was good at 1vs1 but is just another style |
| 16:22.40 | Birdie | he plays more ffa than you think |
| 16:22.45 | Birdie | (undercover) |
| 16:23.10 | _Manu_ | dunno |
| 16:23.12 | Birdie | or played.; |
| 16:23.25 | Birdie | dunno if the name will come back |
| 16:23.31 | Birdie | cheating insults every day arent funny |
| 16:23.40 | _Manu_ | yes, that happens |
| 16:24.00 | _Manu_ | usually noobs calling cheaters to good players |
| 16:24.29 | Birdie | and its certainly not funny if experienced players do that |
| 16:24.31 | BenUrban | lag makes intentional cheating hard to spot |
| 16:24.53 | bz4957 | i joined dub.bzflag.org but im a observer. how do i play? |
| 16:25.05 | BenUrban | bz4957: rejoin on a team |
| 16:25.06 | Birdie | join green or red(if you have a place, maximum is 4vs4) |
| 16:25.07 | BenUrban | or as a rogue |
| 16:25.11 | _Manu_ | select a team and join |
| 16:25.43 | _Manu_ | and if you want become invincible.. join as observer.. select roaming.. and just fly around kk |
| 16:26.06 | jpa_ | if it says "Game is full, joining as an observer" then the game is full.. |
| 16:26.28 | jpa_ | "Automatic" is usually the best selection, it joins you in a team that has space |
| 16:26.44 | _Manu_ | jpa_, yes.. to the worse team usually :) |
| 16:27.03 | BenUrban | unfortunately some rogueless servers aren't really rogueless |
| 16:27.16 | BenUrban | but instead have a rogue team that's limited to 0 players |
| 16:27.27 | BenUrban | which makes it really annoying |
| 16:28.09 | jpa_ | BenUrban: difference? |
| 16:28.28 | BenUrban | if a rogue team exists, it tries to put you on it |
| 16:28.37 | BenUrban | if it's limited to 0 players, it's always full |
| 16:28.40 | BenUrban | and joining fails |
| 16:28.58 | BenUrban | if one doesn't exist, Rogue behhaves like Automatic |
| 16:29.01 | _Manu_ | well, really rogue is not a team.. are rogues |
| 16:29.11 | BenUrban | whatever |
| 16:29.13 | BenUrban | you know what i mean |
| 16:30.11 | bz4957 | so you have to rejoin every time to join a game? |
| 16:30.14 | *** join/#bzflag blast007_away (~blast@24-196-92-143.jvl.wi.charter.com) |
| 16:30.27 | _Manu_ | bz4957, yes.. at the moment.. |
| 16:30.27 | BenUrban | bz4957: no |
| 16:30.40 | BenUrban | unless you leave it set at observer |
| 16:31.24 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, how do you join a game without rejoin? |
| 16:31.25 | Birdie | lol this is propably not easyfor him, one saying yes, the other no |
| 16:31.32 | jpa_ | it joins you in team if you have selected so and there is space |
| 16:31.46 | BenUrban | s/BearPerson/BenUrban/ |
| 16:31.48 | jpa_ | _Manu_: uh.. by clicking connect just once? :) |
| 16:32.06 | _Manu_ | connect is respawn.. not join.. you were joined |
| 16:32.08 | BearPerson | _Manu_, with your patch... by "/join red" I'd prefer :) |
| 16:32.09 | BenUrban | _Manu_: by choosing something other than Oberver |
| 16:32.13 | BenUrban | *Observer |
| 16:32.21 | BenUrban | heh |
| 16:32.23 | bz4957 | so if i join as an observer i have to reconnect when a slot becomes available? |
| 16:32.31 | BearPerson | yes |
| 16:32.32 | jpa_ | yes |
| 16:32.34 | BenUrban | i'd love to be able to change teams without a disconnect |
| 16:32.38 | BenUrban | yes |
| 16:32.41 | _Manu_ | join is connect to a server.. not respawn |
| 16:32.43 | BearPerson | same here, BenUrban |
| 16:32.56 | _Manu_ | someone is working on it kk |
| 16:33.01 | BenUrban | i don't see why it's not already that way |
| 16:33.23 | Birdie | ~pw bearperson |
| 16:33.24 | ibot | ACTION Patches are always welcome, bearperson |
| 16:33.35 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, that's the first step.. ;) |
| 16:33.35 | BearPerson | then I could just hop obs, spot and kick a few TKers, then hop back |
| 16:33.51 | BearPerson | or hop over to the other team when they're uneven |
| 16:34.17 | BenUrban | the current way actually discourages changing to a less advantaged team |
| 16:34.56 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, that's what i'm using for testing.. i'm still working for making it compatible with actual clients |
| 16:35.23 | BearPerson | you mean to integrate it into the connect screen? |
| 16:35.30 | BenUrban | _Manu_: is this server-side, client-side, or both? |
| 16:35.38 | BearPerson | or also to make clients understand what has just happened :) |
| 16:35.46 | _Manu_ | yes when it will be ready, will be transparent for the client |
| 16:35.51 | *** join/#bzflag Blue_Eyes (~Blue_Eyes@62.123.2.229) |
| 16:36.00 | BenUrban | ah right, i guess it would have to be both |
| 16:36.09 | _Manu_ | is not only not reconnecting.. is also a waiting queue |
| 16:36.40 | _Manu_ | you select a team and connect to the server.. then if your selected team is full.. you keeps waiting in a queue |
| 16:36.51 | _Manu_ | after some left.. the server yoin you automaticaly |
| 16:36.58 | BenUrban | nice! |
| 16:37.00 | _Manu_ | s/yoin/join |
| 16:37.08 | BenUrban | s/join/joins/ |
| 16:37.09 | BenUrban | :P |
| 16:37.17 | _Manu_ | you also can select another team and join.. but the client don't reconnect.. |
| 16:37.33 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 16:37.40 | BenUrban | no reconnect == no rejoin penalty |
| 16:37.49 | BearPerson | :) |
| 16:37.51 | _Manu_ | yes.. no new connection.. |
| 16:38.02 | _Manu_ | but still is the waiting queue ;) |
| 16:38.26 | BearPerson | will the queue be per-team or just globally for auto-assign? |
| 16:38.27 | bz4957 | im not doing bad on dub.bzflag.org |
| 16:38.29 | bz4957 | i think |
| 16:38.40 | BenUrban | hmm maybe team swapping should spawn you sing the same method as a normal death |
| 16:38.45 | _Manu_ | queue is for the player and selected team |
| 16:38.46 | BenUrban | rather than as a team respawn |
| 16:38.51 | bz4957 | how do i see my score? |
| 16:39.09 | _Manu_ | bz4957, press S key for switching on/off |
| 16:39.26 | jpa_ | ~bzfquery dub.bzflag.org |
| 16:39.37 | BenUrban | heh |
| 16:40.01 | bz4957 | what does -6 mean? |
| 16:40.08 | BenUrban | 6 below zero :P |
| 16:40.28 | Birdie | a bad score:) |
| 16:40.32 | bz4957 | how is score calculated? |
| 16:40.40 | BearPerson | kills - deaths |
| 16:40.41 | _Manu_ | wins-loses |
| 16:40.42 | Birdie | killing people and dying |
| 16:40.44 | BenUrban | kills - deaths |
| 16:40.49 | BenUrban | sigh |
| 16:40.51 | BearPerson | hehe... anyone else? |
| 16:40.53 | BenUrban | <-- slow typist |
| 16:41.14 | DTRemenak | kills - deaths |
| 16:41.20 | DTRemenak | (just for completeness) |
| 16:41.20 | BenUrban | thanks DTRemenak |
| 16:41.21 | _Manu_ | BenUrban.speed++ |
| 16:41.23 | BenUrban | lol |
| 16:41.25 | BearPerson | _Manu_, so if I select "automatic" I get into... which queue? |
| 16:41.28 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, automatic.. using actual Tupone criteria ;) |
| 16:41.48 | DTRemenak | yay queues |
| 16:42.04 | BearPerson | ? |
| 16:42.11 | BearPerson | tupone criteria? |
| 16:42.15 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, as it is actually |
| 16:42.40 | BearPerson | so there will be a "red team", a "blue team" and an "automatic" queue? |
| 16:42.46 | _Manu_ | but added to the team queue |
| 16:42.53 | BenUrban | heh |
| 16:42.53 | _Manu_ | yes |
| 16:43.17 | BearPerson | how will you know if the "red team" queuist or the "automatic" guy should join? |
| 16:43.21 | *** part/#bzflag brlcad (~brlcad@brlcad.bronze.supporter.pdpc) |
| 16:43.22 | BenUrban | and the automatic queue is consulted for any/all teams |
| 16:43.25 | BenUrban | right? |
| 16:43.30 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, because you choose it at your client ;) |
| 16:43.37 | BearPerson | ??!?? |
| 16:43.43 | BenUrban | BearPerson: first in, first out |
| 16:43.50 | BearPerson | hmm |
| 16:43.55 | BenUrban | :) |
| 16:44.02 | _Manu_ | ./bzflag Options.. select team to join... and .... |
| 16:44.08 | BearPerson | say 3 blue guys are waiting... then an "automatic" guy joins... then a "red team" |
| 16:44.11 | BearPerson | all teams are full |
| 16:44.24 | BenUrban | 3 blue guys get into blue first... |
| 16:44.26 | BearPerson | when red team becomes free, the "automatic" should join, right? |
| 16:44.33 | BenUrban | automatic guy gets into the next available slot |
| 16:44.37 | _Manu_ | queue also for automatic.. |
| 16:44.38 | BenUrban | then red gets into red |
| 16:44.41 | DTRemenak | BearPerson: timestamps. the first person who qualifies for a position gets it |
| 16:44.49 | _Manu_ | and all keeps an order |
| 16:44.49 | BenUrban | exactly |
| 16:44.49 | BearPerson | ah |
| 16:45.29 | BenUrban | heh |
| 16:45.36 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 16:45.52 | BearPerson | _Manu_, need help coding it? ;-) |
| 16:46.00 | _Manu_ | first step is only server managed second.. also client |
| 16:46.09 | _Manu_ | no relly.. i only need time :( |
| 16:46.13 | _Manu_ | mean free time |
| 16:46.25 | BearPerson | the client just has to understand what team it is on |
| 16:46.40 | _Manu_ | BenUrban, for the join... rogue is like a team |
| 16:46.44 | BearPerson | unless you want to practice "spawn-kill the guy until he is legally in the team" |
| 16:46.59 | BenUrban | _Manu_: right, but if there is no rogue team... |
| 16:47.07 | BenUrban | it shold act like automatic |
| 16:47.10 | BenUrban | the way it does now |
| 16:47.13 | _Manu_ | then.. automatic.. :) |
| 16:47.32 | _Manu_ | also can be invited to change the team.. because no disconnected ;) |
| 16:47.34 | BenUrban | lol |
| 16:48.03 | BenUrban | while youre in the joining code...can you make it detect zero-limit rogue teams? |
| 16:48.16 | BenUrban | and handle them as if there is none |
| 16:48.18 | _Manu_ | no, simply the server tells the client |
| 16:48.31 | BenUrban | hmm? |
| 16:48.47 | _Manu_ | but that's in the last step.. in the client code.. first is only server side |
| 16:49.04 | BenUrban | oh, that stuff is handled client-side? |
| 16:49.10 | _Manu_ | boths.. |
| 16:49.20 | BenUrban | ah ok |
| 16:49.27 | _Manu_ | first step.. for testing.. a /join team command |
| 16:49.44 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 16:49.49 | BenUrban | team should be case insensitive |
| 16:50.02 | BenUrban | and it should accept abbreviations...to a point |
| 16:50.02 | _Manu_ | that's not a problem... |
| 16:50.11 | *** part/#bzflag Blue_Eyes (~Blue_Eyes@62.123.2.229) |
| 16:50.13 | BenUrban | as long as it's unambiguous |
| 16:50.24 | BenUrban | (note that R is both Red and Rogue) |
| 16:50.39 | BenUrban | and of course this should all be disabled for rabbit chase :P |
| 16:50.45 | _Manu_ | don't worry about it.. /join only will be available while developing |
| 16:50.59 | BearPerson | hey |
| 16:51.34 | BenUrban | wait a minute...why would you develop it if it won't be used? |
| 16:51.35 | BearPerson | I'd rather do "/join obs" than <esc> <down> <down> <left> <up> <up> <enter> |
| 16:51.37 | DTRemenak | BenUrban: rabbit is not a joinable team. it's team 252 or something, you can only join 0-4 |
| 16:51.45 | _Manu_ | for testing.. |
| 16:51.46 | BenUrban | ok, just making sure :P |
| 16:52.00 | BenUrban | _Manu_: so this is not going to be usable in a normal game? |
| 16:52.34 | _Manu_ | i think no... |
| 16:52.46 | BearPerson | lol |
| 16:52.58 | BenUrban | why the hell not? |
| 16:53.04 | BearPerson | hehe |
| 16:53.19 | BearPerson | I was thinking how to say the same thing, phrased more politely :) |
| 16:53.23 | BenUrban | heh |
| 16:53.30 | BenUrban | "why the **** not?" :) |
| 16:53.31 | _Manu_ | because i think the desired is for the client... but also the command can be there.. dunno really |
| 16:53.38 | BenUrban | wha? |
| 16:53.43 | _Manu_ | that can be a choice |
| 16:53.52 | BenUrban | "the desired is for the client"? |
| 16:53.54 | BearPerson | well... /join just for when the server is not full |
| 16:54.04 | BearPerson | or to jump queues ;-) |
| 16:54.06 | _Manu_ | client menu i think.. the join option |
| 16:54.10 | BearPerson | of course landing you at the end |
| 16:54.22 | _Manu_ | and team selected |
| 16:54.48 | BenUrban | so the /join command will eventually be available for clients? |
| 16:54.55 | _Manu_ | yes, yes.. but first is making it works.. then.. who knows |
| 16:54.57 | BearPerson | hehe |
| 16:55.25 | BenUrban | don't worry, i only chewed it a little bit :P |
| 16:55.35 | BearPerson | so what is standing in the way of just being able to do "/join obs" on a regular, not-full server? :-) |
| 16:55.46 | _Manu_ | i want to fix.. the actual rejoining problem.. and second change your team without disconected |
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| 16:57.12 | BenUrban | so what do you think about having /join cause you to be respawned in the normal way (as opposed to the team respawn after a ctf)? |
| 16:57.25 | BenUrban | that would prevent the rejoining problem |
| 16:57.32 | BearPerson | hehe |
| 16:57.38 | BenUrban | since you wouldn't automatically go to your own base |
| 16:57.39 | _Manu_ | is not a problem |
| 16:57.45 | BearPerson | true... first-time spawners don't have to spawn at base |
| 16:57.50 | _Manu_ | you can still set a waiting time.. ;) |
| 16:57.56 | BenUrban | then why do servers force a rejoin delay? |
| 16:58.24 | _Manu_ | for stoping a player switching teams continuosly |
| 16:58.44 | BenUrban | how is that a problem? |
| 16:58.48 | BearPerson | or punish them a bit for getting kicked for TKing ;-) |
| 16:58.54 | BenUrban | lol |
| 16:59.04 | _Manu_ | well, the server admin can set it as he wants |
| 16:59.19 | bryjen | in ctf your first spawn is at your base, rejoining is a cheap way to get vooped back to base |
| 16:59.34 | BenUrban | i thought the reason was because of people who rejoin on the same team just to kill someone who is at their base |
| 16:59.36 | _Manu_ | probably.. not kicked.. simply time waiting penalized.. |
| 17:00.10 | _Manu_ | and as he continues connected... |
| 17:00.22 | DTRemenak | also to prevent people from constantly rejoining to reset their scores |
| 17:00.24 | _Manu_ | here is where i want to add the client stuff |
| 17:00.34 | BenUrban | the method i'm suggesting would prevent that sort of thing in a /join |
| 17:00.35 | _Manu_ | if you don't select another server.. you keeps your connection |
| 17:01.39 | _Manu_ | and the waiting time, also can be increased if the player continues trying to join.. |
| 17:03.46 | _Manu_ | BenUrban, the /join command, is simply a way for telling the server what you want to do |
| 17:04.26 | _Manu_ | the important is not if is there a /join command or not.. is just the code behind it |
| 17:05.37 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 17:07.57 | BearPerson | hmm... I need some nice mode chars... admin "@"... identified "+" ... trusted "$" ... anonadm "!" ... unknown "?" |
| 17:08.00 | BearPerson | :) |
| 17:09.26 | _Manu_ | BearPerson, trusted is in vipers server only... |
| 17:09.30 | BearPerson | I know :) |
| 17:09.30 | _Manu_ | is like a limited cop |
| 17:10.09 | BearPerson | is case statement different in C than in C++? |
| 17:11.04 | BenUrban | no |
| 17:11.10 | BearPerson | thanks |
| 17:16.01 | BenUrban | i guess not... |
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| 17:24.55 | jpa_ | is BenUrban same as BearPerson |
| 17:25.06 | BearPerson | nope |
| 17:25.16 | jpa_ | you must be! |
| 17:27.40 | jpa_ | how can i charm girls without head? |
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| 17:31.12 | Tupone | TimRiker: As you can see, now client do a POST to access list server, so at least password will not go in the url and web-log / analyzer .... Do you think is worth to do SSL ... I don't think is worth for now, but I like to know your opinion |
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| 17:39.17 | DTRemenak | Tupone: imho it is not worth it to use SSL. there are a lot of libcurl installations out there without SSL enabled. |
| 17:39.41 | Tupone | yeah, I know, that is one of the main reason |
| 17:40.08 | Tupone | why I don't think is worth. But still password goes in clear |
| 18:10.52 | BearPerson | jpa_, if I were mean I'd say "a lot better" ;-) |
| 18:11.39 | jpa_ | :( |
| 18:11.48 | jpa_ | you're mean |
| 18:23.08 | Grumbler | yep, i did not have relations with that women |
| 18:23.13 | BenUrban | lol |
| 18:23.23 | BearPerson | how do I look up a player by callsign again? |
| 18:23.27 | BenUrban | that woman, or those women? :P |
| 18:25.14 | spldart | Women are evil... Just ask my wife ;) |
| 18:25.19 | Grumbler | i dont know......let me go back to dreaming again, and i will find out |
| 18:25.22 | BenUrban | heh |
| 18:25.52 | BenUrban | wife's a bitch and then you die... |
| 18:26.13 | spldart | Not just die... driven to a early grave |
| 18:26.17 | BenUrban | heh |
| 18:26.24 | spldart | Then she collects your life policy |
| 18:26.27 | spldart | LMAO |
| 18:26.27 | BenUrban | in your own car :P |
| 18:27.24 | Grumbler | well they have to make up for being with us losers for so many years |
| 18:27.25 | spldart | lol |
| 18:27.34 | BenUrban | yep |
| 18:27.45 | BenUrban | lol |
| 18:27.57 | spldart | Yah might not believe this. But one of the two reasons I left my ex was she was planning on having me killed for the 200,000 policy I had. |
| 18:28.49 | spldart | It's also the reason I have custody of our two children... |
| 18:28.58 | spldart | My current wife is much safer :) |
| 18:29.02 | BenUrban | heh |
| 18:29.09 | BenUrban | so what was the other reason? |
| 18:29.21 | spldart | She was a cheater |
| 18:29.24 | BenUrban | ah |
| 18:29.36 | BenUrban | so why did you ever marry her? |
| 18:29.44 | BenUrban | and is she dead yet? :P |
| 18:29.51 | spldart | I was spying on the computer and telephone with apparatus and software and found out the murder by surprise |
| 18:30.01 | BenUrban | ouch |
| 18:30.10 | spldart | I married her cuz she was a 'church elder' and was suppossed to be a good girl |
| 18:30.19 | BenUrban | heh |
| 18:30.22 | spldart | Not to mention her norwegian looks ;) |
| 18:30.22 | BenUrban | apparently not :P |
| 18:30.37 | spldart | Nope.... She is very VERY bad |
| 18:31.09 | BenUrban | i guess you dodged the bullet on that one... |
| 18:31.11 | spldart | She is still plotting and scheming.... I have to battle her in court every once in a while.... but I digress :( To OT |
| 18:31.13 | BenUrban | pardon the pun |
| 18:31.21 | spldart | Actually it was poison ;) |
| 18:31.22 | spldart | hehe |
| 18:31.24 | BenUrban | heh |
| 18:31.45 | BenUrban | so how long ago was this? |
| 18:31.49 | spldart | 5 years |
| 18:31.53 | BenUrban | ah |
| 18:31.54 | spldart | since the speration |
| 18:32.04 | spldart | Remarried 3 years ago |
| 18:32.08 | BenUrban | you better hope the children didn't inherit the evilness |
| 18:32.27 | spldart | I hope they got both her and My evilness... And harness it properly :evil: |
| 18:32.36 | BenUrban | lol |
| 18:32.56 | spldart | The eldest makes a good tanker :) |
| 18:33.13 | BenUrban | tanker? you mean bzflagger? |
| 18:33.25 | spldart | yepper |
| 18:33.29 | BenUrban | ah |
| 18:33.39 | spldart | She does almost as well as me on spriralzone |
| 18:33.49 | BenUrban | callsign? |
| 18:33.52 | Grumbler | yeah, but you suck |
| 18:33.55 | BenUrban | lol |
| 18:34.02 | spldart | usually rabid bunny |
| 18:34.05 | BenUrban | hmm |
| 18:34.07 | spldart | but sometimes otherstuff |
| 18:34.14 | spldart | I can often hold a positive score |
| 18:34.18 | jolie | ... |
| 18:34.18 | spldart | :squint: |
| 18:34.27 | jolie | come on... no more bunny |
| 18:34.31 | jolie | >_< |
| 18:34.31 | BenUrban | heh |
| 18:34.51 | spldart | But as soon as I get tired I go negative on score :( |
| 18:34.51 | Grumbler | what?, does jolie own the bunny? |
| 18:34.56 | jolie | aaaaaaaaaack |
| 18:35.01 | bunny | >=( |
| 18:35.06 | bunny | .. stop it |
| 18:35.12 | spldart | Each of my kids has their own bunny ^_^ |
| 18:35.16 | bunny | .... |
| 18:35.27 | BenUrban | ;) |
| 18:35.29 | jolie | bah |
| 18:38.38 | Grumbler | so jolie, how is the kinder today |
| 18:38.59 | jolie | kinderis fine... |
| 18:39.05 | jolie | with teething probs... |
| 18:39.10 | Grumbler | ouch |
| 18:39.22 | Grumbler | never a good time |
| 18:39.29 | jolie | yeah gums breaking. huge teeth comming .. 4 of them >_< |
| 18:39.55 | Grumbler | poor kids |
| 18:40.04 | jolie | kiD |
| 18:40.10 | jolie | just 1 |
| 18:40.18 | Grumbler | ...ah, typo |
| 18:41.39 | spldart | crap...can't find any... gotta load a bunny pic or two when I get home |
| 18:41.41 | spldart | and their hutch |
| 18:41.44 | jolie | ... |
| 18:42.00 | jolie | STOP highlitin meeeee |
| 18:42.03 | jolie | hmrrr |
| 18:42.06 | jolie | use bunno |
| 18:42.08 | jolie | bunni |
| 18:42.29 | jolie | im doomed :'( |
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| 18:43.52 | spldart | bunny bunny bunny bunny 8-O ! :) |
| 18:44.30 | jolie | wait till i get ops... |
| 18:44.32 | jolie | ha! |
| 18:55.59 | Grumbler | that time of the week....http://www.numanumaye.tk/ |
| 18:57.54 | jpa_ | is that spldart? |
| 18:57.57 | jpa_ | cccccccccuuuuuutieeeeeeeee! |
| 18:58.29 | spldart | Im skeeerred |
| 19:02.29 | spldart | I don't like pictures and showing myself on the internet but I do have this on my server... No face ;) Was showing some others my progress weightlifting http://spldart.bakadigital.com:92/neck.jpg |
| 19:03.33 | jpa_ | erm |
| 19:04.37 | spldart | I have another of the arm but I can't seem to guess the filename... I have apache set private and I'm at work right now :( |
| 19:04.48 | Grumbler | heh |
| 19:05.45 | Grumbler | numanumaye man always makes me smile........too bad the guy who did it is a little upset by the whole thing |
| 19:06.34 | spldart | Like that kid with the light saber thing? |
| 19:06.44 | spldart | Wasn't suppossed to get out |
| 19:07.24 | spldart | How can I make Apache2 not care if I right .jpg or .JPG ? My old server abyss didn't care |
| 19:07.34 | spldart | right = write = type |
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| 19:11.59 | jpa_ | hi braaaaaaaaaaad <3 |
| 19:12.09 | brad2901 | Hey jpa- :) |
| 19:16.01 | bryjen | is it apache or the OS? Windows file system isn't completely case sensitive, Linux is |
| 19:16.42 | spldart | Ah.. that explains it.. Abyss was on Win. Apache2 is on Debian. |
| 19:17.19 | spldart | I need to go through and change the few uppercase to lower so all are same |
| 19:18.15 | spldart | A couple of my win proggies spit out jpegs in uppercase and I save straight across lan to served directory on apache2 |
| 19:18.59 | purple_cow | obviously .jpeg is the one true extension |
| 19:20.04 | bryjen | .jointphotographicexpertsgroup ;) |
| 19:21.02 | spldart | Just haven't done much with png or others |
| 19:21.20 | spldart | bzflag represents the extent of my png images |
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| 19:32.47 | spldart | Alot busier at work today than I expected to be :/ |
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| 20:10.09 | Birdie | ok how strange is this...i opened bz, played, closes again, rebooted, opened, and my key mapping changed..but only ONE key, the spawning one? |
| 20:10.33 | BenUrban | that's pretty strange |
| 20:11.26 | Birdie | till i found out that was the reason i couldnt spawn:/ |
| 20:11.35 | BenUrban | lol |
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| 20:43.17 | spldart | [nick] *** everyone is now known as everyoneelse |
| 20:43.20 | spldart | 8-D |
| 20:46.21 | jpa_ | did you people know it is he in the numyumanumanei video? |
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| 20:47.15 | spldart | sry |
| 20:48.12 | jpa_ | np |
| 20:48.29 | jpa_ | erh.. that is like a reflex :) |
| 20:48.37 | spldart | yep |
| 20:48.42 | spldart | :) |
| 20:52.30 | spldart | With all the hokey stuff coming out lately we need a "BZFlag, The Movie"... Quentin Tarentino should direct... |
| 20:55.21 | spldart | I mean all we have now is Patton and a few decent scenes in Battle of the Bulge. |
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| 21:25.16 | Birdie | menotume ping |
| 21:25.20 | Birdie | or orchid |
| 21:27.45 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 21:28.02 | TimRiker | that's not a good sign. |
| 21:28.06 | TimRiker | ~bzflist17 |
| 21:28.32 | TimRiker | ~bzflist |
| 21:28.45 | TimRiker | ah. better. that was wierd. |
| 21:30.36 | jolie | hey TimRiker |
| 21:30.44 | spldart | ~bzfquery spldart.bakadigital.com:5154 |
| 21:32.13 | TimRiker | jolie: hey |
| 21:32.50 | Tupone | TimRiker: have you read my ... some line before ? |
| 21:33.59 | Tupone | 4 hours ago :( |
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| 21:38.13 | spldart | ~bzfquery spldart.bakadigital.com:5154 |
| 21:38.16 | spldart | busy |
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| 21:39.18 | TimRiker | Tupone: cool. I'll check it out sometime. I'm headed out of town for the weekend in a few minutes. |
| 21:40.00 | Tupone | ok. I wonder no ssl at the moment ... DTRemenak is worried about unavailability of it on the dll that people normally use |
| 21:40.13 | Tupone | s/wonder/guess/ |
| 21:41.01 | spldart | I guess Ibot passed away :( |
| 21:41.17 | TimRiker | ibot: 1+1 |
| 21:41.18 | ibot | hmm... 1+1 is 3 for large values of 1 |
| 21:41.41 | DTRemenak | ibot's still here, it's your server that passed away ;) |
| 21:41.57 | spldart | meh... was just playing |
| 21:41.58 | TimRiker | or the route tween ibot and your server |
| 21:42.14 | spldart | Yup.. just checked peeps are playing right now |
| 21:42.18 | TimRiker | which is likely given the bogus bzflist I got a while ago. |
| 21:42.28 | DTRemenak | having connection problems? |
| 21:42.29 | spldart | ah |
| 21:42.49 | spldart | inet routing issues i guess |
| 21:43.31 | Tupone | TimRiker: ponder my other request ... adding DTRemenak to that : op or at least voice |
| 21:43.51 | TimRiker | access #bzflag list |
| 21:43.53 | CBG | ibot: dict team |
| 21:43.57 | TimRiker | oops. |
| 21:44.19 | jolie | nite guys |
| 21:44.27 | TimRiker | Tupone: your nick is not registered? |
| 21:44.28 | jolie | this lil bunny goes to bed |
| 21:44.32 | spldart | night |
| 21:44.33 | Birdie | hunt it |
| 21:44.33 | Tupone | mine is |
| 21:45.12 | Tupone | Tupone is registered |
| 21:45.24 | CBG | grrr, ibot: I asked for a definition, not a synonym list. |
| 21:45.28 | Tupone | and identified actually |
| 21:45.39 | jolie | nite CBG |
| 21:45.40 | spldart | ibot is upset |
| 21:45.51 | jolie | nite birdie hope the pussycat eats you |
| 21:45.52 | CBG | night jolie |
| 21:45.52 | TimRiker | CBG: heh. ask again. ;-) |
| 21:45.59 | jolie | nite Tupone |
| 21:46.00 | CBG | ibot: dict team |
| 21:46.06 | Birdie | jolie: dont worry no cat wants to eat me |
| 21:46.08 | Tupone | tres jolie :) |
| 21:46.10 | CBG | aha, thanks timriker |
| 21:46.32 | Birdie | goodnight jolie:) |
| 21:46.32 | jolie | nite MR riker |
| 21:47.04 | jolie | hey! |
| 21:47.10 | jolie | dont make me spank you |
| 21:47.18 | jolie | kay nite. |
| 21:47.21 | spldart | kinky |
| 21:47.36 | jolie | ohhh i am. but not tonite i have headache :D |
| 21:47.38 | jolie | haha bye |
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| 21:47.55 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v jolie] by ChanServ |
| 21:48.00 | CBG | ?? |
| 21:48.05 | CBG | jolie: go!! lol |
| 21:48.07 | DTRemenak | long time no see |
| 21:48.20 | Birdie | she has a hard time to take goodbye |
| 21:48.27 | jolie | why do i have a yellow dot next to me for??? |
| 21:48.38 | DTRemenak | you've been voiced |
| 21:48.43 | jolie | hm... |
| 21:48.47 | jolie | green!! |
| 21:48.49 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v DTRemenak] by TimRiker |
| 21:48.50 | jolie | fits me better |
| 21:48.58 | Birdie | you are power addicted |
| 21:49.06 | jolie | hehe if you know my addictions... |
| 21:49.13 | Birdie | do i want to know:) |
| 21:49.14 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ |
| 21:49.21 | CBG | jolie: is sex crazed. |
| 21:49.35 | jolie | so CBG still NO date for ur prom , eh? |
| 21:49.47 | CBG | jolie: you have to say that out loud? |
| 21:49.53 | DTRemenak | guys, this is not that kind of channel :) |
| 21:49.59 | Birdie | seems like he is going more and more to the point because prom is coming closer |
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| 21:50.07 | jolie | hahah |
| 21:50.10 | jolie | oh well... |
| 21:50.11 | CBG | :( |
| 21:50.19 | jolie | now i ll go |
| 21:50.28 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Nidhoggr] by ChanServ |
| 21:50.38 | spldart | kinkster |
| 21:50.44 | jolie | TimRiker: green fits me better, makes me look thin |
| 21:50.52 | TimRiker | heh |
| 21:51.07 | Birdie | i wanna bet she will kick me once she got it |
| 21:51.15 | spldart | sex crazed can be a good thing. |
| 21:51.26 | Birdie | topic: bzflag discussion..:) |
| 21:51.44 | *** topic/#bzflag by TimRiker -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking |
| 21:51.59 | CBG | Whats different, timriker? |
| 21:52.10 | brad2901 | The last bit |
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| 21:52.15 | DTRemenak | apparently the killing spree is over |
| 21:52.20 | brad2901 | "Killing Spree" |
| 21:52.26 | brad2901 | :): |
| 21:52.34 | CBG | I must have missed that. :P |
| 21:52.39 | bryjen | are we all dead yet? |
| 21:55.21 | CBG | A IRC:CGI user just left with "Client Quit"... doe sthat mean the irc:cgi thingy broke? :P |
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| 21:55.39 | jolie | wth... im not gone >_< |
| 21:55.56 | Tupone | cya jolie tres jolie |
| 21:55.59 | rkr | What is this about yellow dots? |
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| 21:57.11 | spldart | Time to go home YAY!!! |
| 22:00.33 | Tupone | DTRemenak: any problem if I change "\" with "/" on bzflag.rc |
| 22:00.46 | DTRemenak | Tupone: I doubt it |
| 22:00.59 | rkr | No one knows? I don't see any. |
| 22:01.17 | Tupone | ok, I do, Can you test ? |
| 22:02.28 | jolie | guyz im stuck... |
| 22:02.30 | jolie | >_< |
| 22:02.39 | jolie | see this is why i hate X |
| 22:02.40 | rkr | ? |
| 22:02.41 | jolie | ... |
| 22:02.44 | rkr | X is nice. |
| 22:02.46 | rkr | (^& |
| 22:02.50 | rkr | What exactly is the problem? |
| 22:02.55 | jolie | ah you again with the emoticon i dont get |
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| 22:03.10 | rkr | It's a smiley. With demented, squinty eyes. |
| 22:03.16 | jolie | dont get it |
| 22:03.22 | rkr | ( is the smile. ^ is the nose. & are the eyes. |
| 22:03.25 | rkr | (^& |
| 22:03.28 | jolie | nope |
| 22:03.40 | rkr | (sobs uncontrollably) |
| 22:03.44 | rkr | She just doesn't understand me. |
| 22:03.44 | jolie | ^_^ |
| 22:03.51 | jolie | no, i dont grok you at all |
| 22:03.54 | CBG | jolie turn your head the opposite way to normal... |
| 22:04.00 | Tupone | &^) |
| 22:04.00 | bryjen | stuck how? |
| 22:04.07 | jolie | im crashed here |
| 22:04.10 | jolie | cant get out |
| 22:04.11 | CBG | its like 8-) has turned to (-8 see? |
| 22:04.13 | jolie | only way to reboot |
| 22:04.13 | rkr | Oh, well, not groking isn't such a problem. I don't expect to be grokked. |
| 22:04.18 | jolie | and... |
| 22:04.23 | jolie | stuff still i have to get done |
| 22:04.26 | rkr | If I did it the other way around it would be wrong: &^( |
| 22:04.27 | Tupone | jolie: ctrl-alt-f1 does not work ? |
| 22:04.34 | jolie | nope |
| 22:04.34 | rkr | Looks like a droopy monocle, and is frowning. |
| 22:04.42 | jolie | i can switch tabs tho |
| 22:04.53 | jolie | but cant close aplications |
| 22:04.55 | jolie | i hate X |
| 22:04.57 | jolie | however.. |
| 22:05.00 | rkr | Are you running something nasty like KDE or GNOME on top of X? |
| 22:05.06 | jolie | :''''( |
| 22:05.08 | bryjen | ctl-alt-backspace |
| 22:05.11 | jolie | noOOOooOOOoo |
| 22:05.19 | jolie | well yeah i am.. |
| 22:05.23 | jolie | but shhhh |
| 22:05.31 | rkr | (And do you login with a graphical login, or do you login to a text console and do "startx", as God intended?) |
| 22:05.35 | rkr | Ah. |
| 22:05.48 | rkr | Well, your first sin of commission. (^& |
| 22:05.59 | jolie | okay i dont see ur emoticon |
| 22:06.11 | rkr | You can log out of your session with GNOME or KDE, I assume, and are back at the graphical login? |
| 22:06.17 | jolie | i cant get out |
| 22:06.24 | jolie | can switch between aplications |
| 22:06.27 | jolie | cant close anything |
| 22:06.31 | jolie | shrug* |
| 22:06.37 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/win32/bzflag.rc: Use unix notation for directory |
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| 22:06.38 | rkr | (That's okay. I never had a bunny when I was growing up. This has left me permamently warped. Deal with it.) |
| 22:06.39 | Tupone | you can't start another terminal |
| 22:06.42 | Tupone | ? |
| 22:06.47 | biffiford | how can I use textures on a box? |
| 22:06.50 | biffiford | also, hi |
| 22:07.05 | bryjen | not a normal box. a meshbox can |
| 22:07.14 | rkr | Hm...sounds very strange. You can't log out, you can't switch consoles ... |
| 22:07.25 | rkr | What if you hit <ctrl>-<alt>-<backspace>? |
| 22:08.20 | rkr | It may be picky about which control/alt keys you use. I seem to recall it needing to be the left control & left alt... |
| 22:08.36 | CIA-5 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/README.XMINGW: New autoconf simplify cross compilation |
| 22:08.56 | Moogy | i have a question... how do load .map files? |
| 22:08.57 | rkr | (Current XFree86 is agnostic about left/right, but wscons only treats left as special, it seems...) |
| 22:09.47 | rkr | Do you want to shut your computer down complete, Jolie? If so, you can just do a shutdown from an xterm. |
| 22:09.57 | rkr | ...but that should not be necessary. |
| 22:11.59 | Tupone | DTRemenak: have you tested if windows build again with my little change? |
| 22:13.14 | biffiford | so I'm guessing there's NOT a way to texture boxes? |
| 22:13.22 | biffiford | so I'm right in guessing etc. |
| 22:13.43 | DTRemenak | biffiford: use meshmoxes |
| 22:13.53 | DTRemenak | meshboxes even |
| 22:14.43 | jolie | hm |
| 22:14.46 | jolie | so tea or wine? |
| 22:16.57 | purple_cow | hmm, hopefully there's not too much red tape to cut through for travel reimbursements. if i don't register for siggraph in the next 2 days, it's an extra $50 |
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| 22:39.34 | Pimpi | texturing meshboxes is odd, because they have 4 faces on top and bottom side |
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| 22:54.33 | DTRemenak | Tupone: yeah, it works fine |
| 22:54.43 | Tupone | good |
| 22:55.15 | Tupone | I dunno what that means, but I casually discovered the warning compiling it on linux |
| 22:57.22 | Tupone | DTRemenak: how do you see this: http://linux-club.org/stallman_sui_brvetti.avi I hae to fix my browser before seeing |
| 22:57.41 | DTRemenak | I get a 404 |
| 22:58.28 | Tupone | http://linux-club.org/stallman_sui_brevetti.avi |
| 22:58.36 | Tupone | hehe sorry I mistyped it |
| 23:05.00 | DTRemenak | seems to work fine |
| 23:05.56 | Tupone | ok .. I'm viewing it now, but sometime the image is blurry |
| 23:06.09 | DTRemenak | yeah, the decoding quality is not good |
| 23:09.18 | shorty114 | does bzadmin still require GL headers? |
| 23:09.26 | Tupone | nope |
| 23:09.30 | shorty114 | YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSS |
| 23:09.36 | shorty114 | who changed that? |
| 23:09.40 | Tupone | I did |
| 23:09.49 | shorty114 | ~Tupone++ |
| 23:09.50 | shorty114 | ~tupone++ |
| 23:10.20 | Tupone | 1 line changes. Too much for a Tupone+=3 |
| 23:10.27 | shorty114 | 1 line?? |
| 23:10.36 | shorty114 | still, glad someone did it :) |
| 23:10.51 | shorty114 | leaves me wondering why i didn't do it myself a logn time ago :o |
| 23:11.42 | Tupone | well, perhaps 2 lines changes .. an #ifdef before the gl include and an #endif after, |
| 23:12.10 | shorty114 | so if it's defined that the machine has GL, then it requires the header? |
| 23:12.12 | shorty114 | makes sense. |
| 23:12.25 | Tupone | not that, if building bzadmin |
| 23:12.38 | Tupone | the file is shared between bzflag and bzadmin |
| 23:13.21 | Tupone | we cannot do that way ... bzadmin would require gl at runtime, we don't want that |
| 23:13.30 | shorty114 | oh |
| 23:13.34 | shorty114 | well, as long as it works :) |
| 23:13.59 | shorty114 | ./autogen, ./configure and make? |
| 23:14.01 | shorty114 | same as always? |
| 23:14.07 | Tupone | sh autoge.sh |
| 23:14.10 | Tupone | sh autogen.sh |
| 23:14.18 | shorty114 | err it can't find aclocal |
| 23:14.23 | shorty114 | autogen.sh: line 4: aclocal: command not found |
| 23:14.31 | Tupone | you're is old |
| 23:14.50 | Tupone | I don't call anymore aclocal |
| 23:15.06 | shorty114 | i dled the latest .tar.bz2 from bzflag.org download page... |
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| 23:15.34 | Tupone | ahh, not cvs ok |
| 23:15.41 | Tupone | what distro? |
| 23:15.44 | shorty114 | ubuntu |
| 23:15.50 | shorty114 | debian |
| 23:15.52 | Tupone | you need autoconf |
| 23:15.55 | Tupone | automake |
| 23:15.56 | shorty114 | kk |
| 23:16.16 | Tupone | and i need some sleep .. nite |
| 23:16.19 | shorty114 | apt-getting both |
| 23:16.22 | shorty114 | goodnight |
| 23:20.17 | shorty114 | uh, curl-config command not found |
| 23:20.21 | shorty114 | is that needed? |
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| 23:21.43 | shorty114 | hmm guess not |
| 23:26.36 | BenUrban | you need curl to download the maps |
| 23:26.38 | BenUrban | and images |
| 23:27.37 | jpa_ | http://www.sloganizer.net/en/ |
| 23:28.06 | jpa_ | «bzflag for a better future.» |
| 23:30.31 | shorty114 | BenUrban, only building bzadmin, no bzflag |
| 23:31.33 | shorty114 | «The one and only bzflag.» |
| 23:31.56 | shorty114 | here we go «bzflagtastic!» |
| 23:32.41 | brad2901 | «Make the world a better place with bzflag.» :) |
| 23:32.44 | shorty114 | heh |
| 23:33.08 | jpa_ | «brad2901 - You see this name, you think dirty.» |
| 23:33.21 | brad2901 | umm |
| 23:33.35 | brad2901 | Are you sure that wasn't you that made that?:) |
| 23:33.53 | jpa_ | nope :) |
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| 23:34.01 | brad2901 | «Be young, have fun, taste jpa.» |
| 23:34.06 | jpa_ | eww |
| 23:34.11 | shorty114 | AHAHAHA |
| 23:34.26 | brad2901 | ) |
| 23:34.28 | brad2901 | ops |
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