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| 00:13.43 | brad2901 | ~viper |
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| 00:31.12 | GvzEvxre | guess he still is. |
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| 00:55.18 | uso | there's not limit in the shot frequency (other than the number of shots you have), isn't it? |
| 00:55.40 | uso | i.e. you can fire all your shots within a millisecond or so |
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| 00:59.55 | BenUrban | uso: the limit is probably related to the network conditions |
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| 01:04.15 | SC-phone | hi all |
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| 01:42.35 | menotume | SportChick: no one is here |
| 01:42.40 | menotume | This is an automated message |
| 01:50.56 | orange | I'm not here |
| 02:03.54 | orange | sorry, I really wasn't here then |
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| 02:12.47 | uso | BenUrban: no, normally it's limited by the hardware |
| 02:13.18 | uso | but an increasing number of people is firing with two or three mouse buttons |
| 02:13.43 | BenUrban | especially if i am using mouse control |
| 02:13.50 | BenUrban | key repeat does awesome things |
| 02:15.00 | uso | i was only wondering how people can fire 3 shots at nearly the same time |
| 02:15.18 | uso | no chance against this if you fire only with one button |
| 02:16.01 | uso | i need keyboard to jump |
| 02:16.06 | BenUrban | i can fire all my shots at nearly the same time |
| 02:16.21 | BenUrban | key repeat does that quite nicely |
| 02:16.36 | uso | jumping and firing with left hand and keyboard ... don't know |
| 02:16.44 | BenUrban | well |
| 02:16.48 | uso | yeah, somewhat unfair |
| 02:16.52 | BenUrban | heh |
| 02:17.01 | BenUrban | on my computer i only se the keyboard |
| 02:17.03 | BenUrban | *use |
| 02:17.24 | uso | shot frequency should be limited |
| 02:17.35 | uso | 10 per second or so |
| 02:17.37 | BenUrban | why? |
| 02:17.50 | uso | to keep balance |
| 02:18.08 | BenUrban | anyone can use the keyboard to fire quickly |
| 02:19.21 | uso | but then it's hardware limited, not by the game |
| 02:19.40 | uso | different conditions for different player |
| 02:19.45 | BenUrban | it's limited by the bandwidth |
| 02:19.57 | BenUrban | hardware limits don't play a role |
| 02:19.58 | uso | that's even worse |
| 02:20.17 | BenUrban | bandwidth is a universal unknown |
| 02:20.25 | uso | if the game sets the limit it's equal for all |
| 02:20.36 | uso | most fair |
| 02:21.00 | BenUrban | lol i just don't wanna give up my ability to make a wall of shots |
| 02:21.47 | uso | lol, sure :) |
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| 03:45.29 | Sweating_Bullets | !last kc9foh |
| 03:45.30 | TheLastSpartan | Sweating_Bullets: [19:21:47] <uso> lol, sure :) |
| 03:45.49 | Sweating_Bullets | TheLastSpartan, |
| 03:45.51 | Sweating_Bullets | ? |
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| 03:48.44 | bryjen | !seen kc9foh |
| 03:48.44 | TheLastSpartan | bryjen: kc9foh was last seen here 2 days, 5 hours, 36 minutes, and 35 seconds ago saying: <kc9foh> All I really know is I am ready for some pillbox league time:) |
| 03:51.07 | amathis | ah, Ham Call. |
| 03:52.22 | amathis | hahaha |
| 03:52.34 | amathis | took me a minute |
| 03:55.44 | Tegan | oh |
| 03:56.53 | Sweating_Bullets | nthanks bryjen |
| 03:57.07 | Sweating_Bullets | !seen kc9foh |
| 03:57.08 | TheLastSpartan | Sweating_Bullets: kc9foh was last seen here 2 days, 5 hours, 44 minutes, and 59 seconds ago saying: <kc9foh> All I really know is I am ready for some pillbox league time:) |
| 03:59.37 | ham_radio_call | -.-. --.- |
| 04:00.05 | amathis | ugh |
| 04:00.08 | amathis | I hated learning Morse Code |
| 04:00.24 | ham_radio_call | heh. i have forgoten most of it |
| 04:00.50 | ham_radio_call | finaly got my rig back up yesterday |
| 04:01.05 | amathis | I don't practice the hobby. |
| 04:01.10 | ham_radio_call | ahh |
| 04:01.18 | amathis | but I have my General liscense |
| 04:01.24 | ham_radio_call | cool |
| 04:01.24 | amathis | didn't ever go extra |
| 04:01.28 | amathis | didn't even wanna go tech |
| 04:01.29 | amathis | :) |
| 04:01.38 | ham_radio_call | ?? |
| 04:01.52 | amathis | I was made into passing the tests |
| 04:01.58 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 04:02.03 | amathis | oh, hi Aribeth |
| 04:02.07 | Aribeth | hi |
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| 04:02.46 | amathis | another ham o.0 |
| 04:02.54 | Aribeth | i have my inverted v antenna sitting flat on the ground. seems to work good |
| 04:02.58 | amathis | heh |
| 04:03.11 | amathis | I have copius (sp) amounts of antennas. All homeade.. |
| 04:03.19 | amathis | !spell copius |
| 04:03.20 | TheLastSpartan | amathis: Don't make me shoot you. |
| 04:03.23 | Aribeth | i hope i dont run over it with the lawn mower |
| 04:03.26 | amathis | !dict copius |
| 04:03.28 | TheLastSpartan | amathis: No definition for 'copius' could be found. |
| 04:03.33 | amathis | darn |
| 04:03.37 | KB9RRC | howdy |
| 04:03.37 | bryjen | ~spell copius |
| 04:03.39 | amathis | I was hoping I could spell :P |
| 04:03.45 | amathis | ah |
| 04:03.50 | Aribeth | all mine are home made |
| 04:04.16 | amathis | boy I am hungry. |
| 04:04.26 | Aribeth | cya |
| 04:04.43 | Aribeth | hi KB9RRC |
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| 04:08.27 | amathis | fka? |
| 04:08.28 | amathis | :) |
| 04:08.35 | amathis | frightfully known as? |
| 04:08.48 | Aribeth | yep |
| 04:08.51 | Aribeth | :) |
| 04:09.25 | KB9RRC | formerly known as |
| 04:55.12 | noyb | hey, the "What's new in the Nevada build" is great! Thanks! |
| 04:57.23 | noyb | um... sorry about that. copy paste error... nevermind. |
| 04:59.59 | KB9RRC | When you're lost in the rain in Juarez, when it's Eastertime too |
| 05:00.03 | KB9RRC | And your gravity fails and negativity don't pull you through |
| 05:00.14 | KB9RRC | Don't put on any airs when you're down on Rue Morgue Avenue |
| 05:00.19 | KB9RRC | They got some nasty women there and they sure make a mess outta you |
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| 05:38.50 | KB9RRC | sex penis |
| 05:46.53 | KB9RRC | TOGA TOGA TOGA TOGA |
| 06:02.00 | BenUrban | ~spell copious |
| 06:02.17 | BenUrban | is that what you were looking for, amathis? |
| 06:02.39 | SportChick | howdy kb9rrc, kg6mtf here |
| 06:02.52 | BenUrban | wha? |
| 06:03.26 | SportChick | too late benurban - it's mostly gone already |
| 06:03.31 | BenUrban | meh |
| 06:03.32 | KB9RRC | mmm |
| 06:03.36 | KB9RRC | cake |
| 06:03.51 | BenUrban | i still say it needs chocolate |
| 06:03.53 | BenUrban | :P |
| 06:04.11 | BenUrban | lol |
| 06:04.17 | BenUrban | thanks! |
| 06:05.13 | KB9RRC | I was not being a bird! |
| 06:05.27 | BenUrban | fowl are not always foul |
| 06:07.09 | BenUrban | lol |
| 06:07.20 | KB9RRC | or wait |
| 06:07.29 | KB9RRC | you probably just looked me up in the call book |
| 06:07.29 | KB9RRC | either way |
| 06:07.36 | BenUrban | call book? |
| 06:07.56 | SportChick | BenUrban: kb9rrc is a Ham - his ham license callsign |
| 06:08.04 | BenUrban | ohhhhh |
| 06:08.07 | BenUrban | now i get it |
| 06:08.19 | BenUrban | that explains the kg6mtf |
| 06:09.51 | KB9RRC | On the field |
| 06:09.54 | KB9RRC | from Madison, Wisconsin |
| 06:10.07 | KB9RRC | Performing their 1995 program "A Drum Corps Fan's Dream: A Day in the Life of a Bullfighter" |
| 06:10.17 | KB9RRC | Drum Corps International is proud to present...THE MADISON SCOUTS! |
| 06:10.22 | SportChick | BenUrban: you'll notice that kg6mte also frequents this channel |
| 06:10.23 | KB9RRC | Under the direction of Scott Stewart! |
| 06:11.05 | SportChick | hubby & I have sequential calsigns |
| 06:11.15 | BenUrban | so is this some sort of ipov? (ip over voice) |
| 06:11.19 | BenUrban | :P |
| 06:11.21 | SportChick | no |
| 06:11.27 | SportChick | hehe |
| 06:11.34 | BenUrban | wait no it would be ipoh :P |
| 06:11.40 | SportChick | bye |
| 06:11.43 | BenUrban | bye |
| 06:11.55 | KB9RRC | there's always IPoCP |
| 06:12.03 | BenUrban | cp? |
| 06:12.21 | KB9RRC | carrier pigeon |
| 06:12.24 | BenUrban | ah |
| 06:12.29 | BenUrban | not always |
| 06:12.37 | KB9RRC | gives a whole new meaning to "NO CARRIER" |
| 06:12.43 | BenUrban | depends whether carrier pigeons exist |
| 06:12.49 | BenUrban | yeah yeah we've all heard that one |
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| 07:09.40 | ibunny | morning |
| 07:10.36 | ruskie | good morrow all |
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| 08:49.34 | Birdie | ibunny wished she could shot the birdie |
| 08:49.52 | ibunny | yeah to shot u with a kiss |
| 08:50.03 | Birdie | maybe i wont dodge that one :) |
| 08:50.05 | ibunny | so now who wishes for it? ;) |
| 08:50.36 | Birdie | evil question |
| 08:51.16 | ibunny | u answered :P |
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| 09:44.06 | Birdie | jpa- you left just when i got my buddy to play there to slaughter you:) |
| 09:44.26 | jpa- | just because you were so mean to me |
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| 10:03.25 | cods | hmm.. my server seem down.. |
| 10:05.22 | cods | fixed. I've no idea how long it was down. |
| 10:09.50 | Tupone | menotume: you are here ? |
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| 13:13.02 | menotume | good morning, miss Orchid |
| 13:13.37 | ruskie | hmmm |
| 13:13.57 | orchid | hello |
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| 14:13.31 | ibunny | shhhh |
| 14:14.06 | menotume | be vewy quiet, i'm hunting wabbits |
| 14:14.16 | ibunny | eeeeeeeeeeek |
| 14:14.20 | ibunny | shhh anyways |
| 14:14.25 | menotume | :D |
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| 14:58.05 | Birdie | w00t boonen won in the tour the france, if i may go a little bit off topic |
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| 15:05.35 | orchid | Birdie: who is Woot Boonen? he sounds dutch |
| 15:06.14 | Birdie | w00t is an expression of being happy, Boonen is some one who can drive very very good with a bike:) |
| 15:06.27 | Birdie | never heard of "tour de france"? |
| 15:06.45 | Birdie | yea i doubt that is popular in canada..your country is more icehockey |
| 15:07.08 | orchid | no ive heard of it, but dont follow it |
| 15:07.18 | orchid | the same guy always wins anyway |
| 15:07.21 | Birdie | what sports are you interested in? |
| 15:07.28 | orchid | the one with the yellow jacket :) |
| 15:07.43 | Birdie | yea allready 6 years in a row |
| 15:07.49 | BearPerson | orchid, you got that the wrong way round ;-) |
| 15:07.51 | Birdie | ice hockey? |
| 15:07.56 | orchid | yes |
| 15:08.14 | Birdie | i would be interested in it if i CAN do it myself |
| 15:08.31 | orchid | :-) |
| 15:10.13 | Birdie | you play it yourself? |
| 15:10.25 | Birdie | (without being dangerous on ice:) ) |
| 15:11.37 | orchid | no I dont play |
| 15:11.43 | orchid | too rough :) |
| 15:24.22 | Birdie | you play more "sweet sports"? |
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| 17:23.28 | ibunny | DAMM. |
| 17:23.30 | ibunny | :( |
| 17:24.46 | Birdie | before * |
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| 17:31.57 | BearPerson | yowch... |
| 17:32.08 | BearPerson | [SERVER->] ozahg : 476 +- 32ms 11% lost/ooo |
| 17:32.24 | BearPerson | I kicked him for "all three of lag, jitter and packet loss" |
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| 17:40.27 | menotume | Tupone: pong |
| 17:41.17 | Tupone | hey :) |
| 17:41.30 | menotume | a little latency |
| 17:41.35 | Tupone | did you get the problem on the POST ? |
| 17:41.41 | menotume | problem ? |
| 17:42.04 | Tupone | look at the listserver after you add a ne server |
| 17:42.23 | menotume | hmm, ok - one sec |
| 17:42.24 | Tupone | seems an added new line |
| 17:42.31 | menotume | i tested it here - but only one server |
| 17:42.47 | Tupone | try to add to the global one |
| 17:42.51 | menotume | k |
| 17:46.53 | menotume | looks ok to me |
| 17:47.04 | menotume | (bzflag.no-ip.com:5156) |
| 17:47.13 | menotume | ahhh, wait |
| 17:47.23 | menotume | wrong bzfs probably |
| 17:47.38 | Tupone | look with a browser |
| 17:52.54 | Tupone | could be Tim has fixed the listserver :/ It seems bzfs send a cr-lf at the end of description (?) |
| 17:54.06 | menotume | ahhh |
| 17:54.12 | menotume | looks ok in bzflag |
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| 17:54.38 | menotume | hmmm |
| 17:54.48 | wegstar | ? |
| 17:54.54 | Tupone | look good even now in browser. Is the server removed correctly when it leave ? |
| 17:55.14 | menotume | look again :) |
| 17:56.20 | BearPerson | hmm... are TKers reset to the base now? |
| 17:56.45 | menotume | shall I remove the \r\n from bzfs ? |
| 17:57.18 | Tupone | I suppose is that, but you have to check with your local listserver, what you get and what you do |
| 17:57.45 | menotume | yes, it looked ok yesterday |
| 17:58.01 | menotume | but, i'll play with my local again, and look in the sql tables |
| 17:58.04 | menotume | thx |
| 17:58.26 | Tupone | ok, look for control character too |
| 17:59.14 | Tupone | BearPerson, TKers were kicked out of the game when they tk too much, but never reset to base |
| 17:59.19 | BearPerson | hmm |
| 17:59.21 | Tupone | unless flag is captured |
| 17:59.34 | BearPerson | on the current viper map, people spawn at their base after they have TKed |
| 17:59.42 | BearPerson | maybe custom server patch, maybe bug |
| 17:59.43 | Tupone | or someone made changes ... a plugin? |
| 17:59.44 | BearPerson | Pimpi? |
| 17:59.52 | Tupone | yeah |
| 18:00.28 | menotume | Tupone: hmm? *other* control chars ? |
| 18:00.36 | menotume | a sanity check ? |
| 18:00.43 | Tupone | I suppose only CR and LF |
| 18:00.47 | menotume | it is being url_encoded |
| 18:00.55 | menotume | ok :) |
| 18:01.09 | Tupone | not a sanity check, just look at that |
| 18:01.14 | menotume | will do |
| 18:02.18 | Tupone | don't do too much change, 'cause I'm working to curl-ing it |
| 18:06.14 | BearPerson | hmm... /me wants a NO_TK_KICK permission :) |
| 18:06.22 | BearPerson | or rather, a TK permission :P |
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| 18:06.57 | Tupone | BearPerson, you want to not die when you tk ? |
| 18:07.10 | Tupone | or just not being kicked out ? |
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| 18:08.13 | Birdie | dying when tk is good for noobs, mostly they notice than its not allowed,otherwise they wont read the message with attention: dont kill your teammates |
| 18:08.53 | Tupone | to not be kicked out, IIRC there is a bzfs option |
| 18:09.46 | ruskie | Tupone, no a permission so that cops and admins don't get kicked out... |
| 18:10.09 | BearPerson | exactly :) |
| 18:10.39 | Tupone | ok, can we add c3po too to the list ? |
| 18:11.07 | ruskie | erm... |
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| 18:19.31 | BenUrban | there is also an option to not die when you tk someone |
| 18:19.46 | BenUrban | i've only ever seen one server use it though |
| 18:22.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03menotume * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ListServerConnection.cxx: Remove cr/lf from end of POST arguments |
| 18:26.30 | fabianne | who uses BlitzMax here? |
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| 18:34.00 | Pimpi | BearPerson, Tupone: no, i changed nothing to spawn after tk |
| 18:34.19 | Pimpi | don't even know where i should do this |
| 18:34.35 | BearPerson | ah |
| 18:34.45 | BearPerson | must be a feature or a bug then... |
| 18:35.09 | BearPerson | yowch! |
| 18:35.18 | BearPerson | cvs [update aborted]: unrecognized auth response from cvs.sourceforge.net: cvs pserver: cannot read /cvsroot/bzflag/CVSROOT/config: Input/output error |
| 18:35.25 | ruskie | ok vila monitoring now... |
| 18:35.39 | Pimpi | hm, there's an attribut somewhere in GameKeper::Player to make the player spawn on base iirc |
| 18:35.46 | BearPerson | yeah |
| 18:35.53 | BearPerson | I'd check if I had up-to-date sources |
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| 18:53.20 | Birdie | ~pimpi++ |
| 18:54.06 | BenUrban | ~pimpi-- |
| 18:54.08 | BenUrban | :P |
| 18:55.09 | Birdie | ~BenUrban-- |
| 18:55.16 | BenUrban | gee thanks |
| 18:55.17 | Birdie | being like that to the person who foudn the crash bug |
| 18:55.22 | Birdie | :) |
| 18:55.27 | BenUrban | there's only one? |
| 18:55.30 | BenUrban | lol |
| 18:58.04 | Birdie | see she left because you did -- against pimpi |
| 18:58.06 | Birdie | :) |
| 18:59.38 | BearPerson | did the crash bug get found now? |
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| 19:05.33 | BearPerson | Birdie, what's that with the crash bug? |
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| 19:11.39 | Birdie | bearperson: somethimes match servers go down |
| 19:11.43 | Birdie | for some strange reason |
| 19:12.14 | BearPerson | yeah, we've had viper go down for an unknown reason several times now |
| 19:12.25 | BearPerson | seems that it happens when a certain layer comes on |
| 19:12.33 | BearPerson | did he find the bug? |
| 19:13.06 | Birdie | he thinks it |
| 19:13.18 | Birdie | Pimpi just need to find the appropriate code line, and maybe i can reproduce it now |
| 19:13.18 | Birdie | Pimpi it's compared to the lost slots thing |
| 19:13.18 | Birdie | Pimpi the server sends faked capture flag messages before the match starts |
| 19:13.18 | Birdie | Pimpi and therefor askes for player's teams |
| 19:13.18 | Birdie | Pimpi lost slot player objects have no team, so this fails by chance |
| 19:13.19 | Birdie | Pimpi must be that, but i have to confine first, until now it's what i think is the bug |
| 19:13.43 | BearPerson | ah |
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| 19:22.53 | BenUrban | does anyone know who runs the server at pythonian.com? |
| 19:23.48 | BenUrban | oh well |
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| 20:13.08 | Pimpi | BearPerson: i was talking to Birdie about another bug |
| 20:13.31 | Pimpi | but i have an idea concerning the crashes on viper too |
| 20:15.19 | BearPerson | drivers? |
| 20:15.42 | BearPerson | and... how bad lockups? |
| 20:16.20 | Birdie | another strange thing: somethimes i'm playing and my pc goes completly stuck..screan frozen and i cant go back with any command, ctrl alt delete or other things, and i have to reboot, it happens often(like once in 2 days) its windows xp...but is really that the reason? |
| 20:17.29 | ruskie | BearPerson, well if the screen goes blank(shutsdown) I can use magic sysrq to sync umount and reboot |
| 20:17.41 | ruskie | but if the game just freezes a hard reset is needed |
| 20:18.42 | Tupone | I guess is a wrong video driver |
| 20:19.49 | ruskie | well been a while since I update dri... but I tried a few days ago and it failed so I'm waiting for a week... |
| 20:20.18 | BearPerson | hmm... btw, is debug output buffered or unbuffered? |
| 20:20.44 | BearPerson | if we're debugging SEGV crashes it might make sense to do unbuffered, right? |
| 20:20.56 | Tupone | is a printf |
| 20:21.04 | BearPerson | ah, buffered |
| 20:21.13 | BearPerson | hope we close it nicely in the segv handler |
| 20:22.05 | Chestal | printf to stderr? |
| 20:22.10 | Chestal | stderr is unbuffered |
| 20:22.15 | Chestal | (by default) |
| 20:22.17 | Tupone | well, wait |
| 20:22.59 | Tupone | seems to be an std:cout |
| 20:23.33 | Chestal | then it's buffered |
| 20:23.34 | Tupone | bzfio.cxx , formatDebug |
| 20:24.34 | BearPerson | then we /need/ to close it on receiving of a SIGSEGV |
| 20:24.49 | BearPerson | I'd hate to lose the last few lines of debug log that lead up to the crash |
| 20:26.19 | Chestal | as long as you do not redirect the output, you should be fine though, line buffering |
| 20:26.32 | Chestal | but that's not guaranteed AFAIK |
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| 21:02.50 | *** join/#bzflag CBG (~Matthew@cpc3-stme1-5-0-cust91.cdif.cable.ntl.com) |
| 21:03.27 | CBG | I need Jeff... Anyone seen him? |
| 21:03.33 | CBG | ~seen JeffM2501 |
| 21:03.33 | ibot | jeffm2501 <~JeffM@JeffM2501.sustaining.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #opencombat, 25d 22h 1m 3s ago, saying: 'work'. |
| 21:03.39 | CBG | Liar! |
| 21:03.51 | CBG | I saw him less than 25days ago ibot. |
| 21:03.53 | Tupone | !seen Jeff201 |
| 21:03.54 | ruskie | lol |
| 21:03.54 | TheLastSpartan | Tupone: I have not seen Jeff201. |
| 21:03.56 | jpa- | don't be mean to ibot |
| 21:04.00 | Tupone | !seen Jeff2501 |
| 21:04.00 | TheLastSpartan | Tupone: I have not seen Jeff2501. |
| 21:04.02 | CBG | ! never? |
| 21:04.03 | TheLastSpartan | I don't have a clue. |
| 21:04.06 | Tupone | !seen JeffM2501 |
| 21:04.08 | TheLastSpartan | Tupone: JeffM2501 was last seen here 1 day, 16 hours, 54 minutes, and 51 seconds ago saying: <JeffM2501> since you get all my stuff |
| 21:04.15 | jpa- | ibot sucks and timriker won't fix it |
| 21:04.16 | jpa- | ~pw |
| 21:04.17 | ibot | from memory, patches welcome is a common response by maintainers of Open Source products. It's roughly means "We don't have much time on our hands, so if you write that feature and send it to us we will likely roll it in. If you don't have the time to write it, we don't either. Stop asking for it." |
| 21:04.18 | CBG | ah. ok :) |
| 21:04.38 | CBG | both bots suck. :( |
| 21:04.43 | CBG | I need Jeff NOW. :( |
| 21:04.52 | ibunny | call him |
| 21:04.59 | ruskie | CBG, just leave him a memo with memoserv |
| 21:05.08 | Birdie | like no one else can help you...its full of smart pc people here |
| 21:05.08 | jpa- | why would you want jeff if you can have me? |
| 21:05.11 | CBG | memoserv? |
| 21:05.18 | Tupone | CBG: what you want from him? |
| 21:05.26 | CBG | ugh - hard to explain... |
| 21:05.34 | Tupone | ok, don't say |
| 21:05.39 | jpa- | xD |
| 21:05.40 | ibunny | you know /ms memo send jeff blablabal |
| 21:05.49 | CBG | and kind of secretive - which is why I can only speak to Jeff, |
| 21:05.57 | ruskie | /msg memoserv send jeff2501 somestuffhere |
| 21:05.58 | Birdie | ya thx to ibunny i know the memostuff! |
| 21:06.02 | Tupone | /ms is just from xchat AFAIK |
| 21:06.22 | CBG | ok. ty guys |
| 21:06.24 | ruskie | it stores a memo for him to read when he get's back... |
| 21:07.21 | CBG | heh - a bb PM will do that ? |
| 21:07.25 | jpa- | gnight |
| 21:07.26 | ruskie | ? |
| 21:07.33 | ruskie | bb PM??? |
| 21:07.39 | ruskie | ohhh |
| 21:07.43 | CBG | bz forum privatemessage |
| 21:07.45 | Birdie | its like the first thing he checks when he comes online.. |
| 21:07.56 | CBG | or even an email. ;) |
| 21:08.05 | ruskie | well then... |
| 21:08.23 | ruskie | that's I guess the easiest way except if you know his phone number |
| 21:08.24 | ruskie | :) |
| 21:08.29 | ruskie | or live near him... :) |
| 21:08.35 | CBG | lol |
| 21:08.43 | CBG | Only about 10 hours away. |
| 21:09.02 | CBG | Ah, make that 15 what with the US security what-nots. |
| 21:09.07 | ruskie | lol |
| 21:11.06 | CBG | would jeffm2501@users.sourceforge.net redirest to his main email address? |
| 21:11.37 | ruskie | you would have to ask him |
| 21:11.43 | CBG | lol... :( |
| 21:11.44 | ibunny | CBG: query |
| 21:11.54 | CBG | ibunny: eh? |
| 21:11.57 | Birdie | ooh secret talk |
| 21:12.04 | ruskie | I poll some 10 diff pop3 accounts every 10 minutes... |
| 21:12.20 | ruskie | so I can get it from multiple places... |
| 21:19.12 | BenUrban | CBG: yes, it would |
| 21:19.28 | BenUrban | sourceforge doesn't host email accounts |
| 21:19.31 | BenUrban | only forwarding |
| 21:20.29 | CBG | well - I sent it to there AND the email address on his bb profile |
| 21:23.05 | cosmos | "u want to run pillbox then u get ur server messed up if no overlord back NOW!" |
| 21:23.37 | CBG | cosmos: who says that? |
| 21:23.45 | CBG | and are you really getting nasty emails? |
| 21:23.53 | cosmos | yeah i have my email on the login screen |
| 21:23.56 | cosmos | i should change it |
| 21:24.34 | cosmos | now watch when it rotates to babel |
| 21:24.40 | cosmos | ill get nasty emails for that |
| 21:24.42 | cosmos | etc etc |
| 21:24.46 | *** part/#bzflag ibunny (~alex@jolie.active.supporter.pdpc) |
| 21:25.25 | CBG | cosmos: report the abusive emails. |
| 21:25.45 | cosmos | most are forged but t-online.de seems to be the major culprit |
| 21:25.57 | cosmos | SC says they banned that entire isp from secretplace heh |
| 21:26.17 | CBG | So, ban them from hepcat and block their emails. |
| 21:26.37 | cosmos | they forge them through other servers |
| 21:26.43 | cosmos | and i have some good t-online.de players |
| 21:26.48 | cosmos | im working on a whitelist |
| 21:27.13 | CBG | Ok. But if you can track down the source of any emails, report them. |
| 21:27.51 | CBG | It's your server and your time. They are lucky that OverLord/Babel/pillbox is hosted at all. |
| 21:27.56 | cosmos | we have. most responses from providers are they dont care and stop wasting their time etc |
| 21:28.04 | CBG | Geez. |
| 21:28.06 | cosmos | only a few providers have been helpful |
| 21:28.13 | CBG | Thats disgusting. |
| 21:28.26 | CBG | There should be a place to report such providers. |
| 21:28.39 | CBG | But hey - then we would need a place to report those places... lol |
| 21:28.59 | cosmos | yeah i like jeffs suggestion of linking registration to paypal |
| 21:29.02 | cosmos | $1 a month |
| 21:29.07 | cosmos | should ward of most of the kiddies |
| 21:29.18 | BenUrban | and anyone else who is under 18 |
| 21:30.03 | cosmos | absolutely |
| 21:30.03 | BenUrban | and those who don't trust paypal' |
| 21:30.03 | BearPerson | I don't think people would like even $1 a month |
| 21:30.03 | CBG | True... |
| 21:30.03 | CBG | Is PayPal for those over 18 only? |
| 21:30.03 | BenUrban | and those who don't happen to have paypal accounts |
| 21:30.06 | CBG | Easy and free to get one. |
| 21:30.07 | BenUrban | i can't imagine they wold allow anyone under 18 to sign up |
| 21:30.12 | cosmos | yeah i tried explaining the cost of running the bzflag server to a few of the complainers |
| 21:30.15 | BearPerson | and... we're still in the stage of getting people to register at all, aren't we? |
| 21:30.19 | cosmos | they dont get it |
| 21:30.26 | CBG | BenUrban: They don't do a lot to stop them... |
| 21:30.56 | BenUrban | right, but it shouldn't be an official policy to encourage minors to ignore such legalities |
| 21:31.09 | Tupone | CBG ... I don't like that, if some server owner would like to do that, he can code is server to allow only billed player :/ |
| 21:31.10 | CBG | They don't Encourage it. |
| 21:31.10 | cosmos | we have good registration on hepcat mostly because you cant talk/report etc without it |
| 21:31.23 | CBG | Tupone: okay... :) |
| 21:31.31 | CBG | cosmos: True. |
| 21:32.03 | cosmos | had a bug where it was allowing everyone to talk again and the nazis came right back |
| 21:32.11 | cosmos | updated cvs problem solved |
| 21:32.16 | BenUrban | heh |
| 21:35.11 | Pimpi | i have no idea why teamkillers respawn on bse |
| 21:35.40 | Birdie | cbg: match? |
| 21:35.50 | Birdie | we have a 2vs2 allready, with you can be 3vs3 |
| 21:35.53 | CBG | Birdie: uhm. |
| 21:35.57 | CBG | ok. one minutes |
| 21:36.02 | CBG | 58 or 59? |
| 21:36.29 | Birdie | 58 |
| 21:36.30 | CBG | ok. In one minute. :) |
| 21:37.39 | Pimpi | hm, JeffM made it |
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| 21:38.52 | Pimpi | i think it sucks |
| 21:39.14 | Pimpi | if i want to respawn on base to protect my flag i jut need to tk |
| 21:39.58 | BearPerson | aye |
| 21:41.11 | Pimpi | jeff is always here, jst when you need him he's away... |
| 21:41.13 | Tupone | Pimpi: is that a plugin? |
| 21:41.23 | Pimpi | no, hardcoded |
| 21:42.08 | Pimpi | committed on June, 23. |
| 21:42.34 | Tupone | on CVS ? :( |
| 21:42.39 | Pimpi | yeah |
| 21:56.45 | *** join/#bzflag sc-phone (~d@68.sub-70-209-72.myvzw.com) |
| 21:56.58 | sc-phone | hi all |
| 21:57.19 | Tupone | hi |
| 21:58.40 | sc-phone | how are you, Tupone |
| 21:59.25 | Tupone | good ... but that is not a chit-chat room ... any problem with bzflag ? |
| 22:00.42 | sc-phone | I am not playing lately - I am here using my phone. sorry for chit chatting. |
| 22:00.57 | Tupone | do I know you ? |
| 22:01.12 | sc-phone | sportchick |
| 22:01.21 | Tupone | haha, sorry |
| 22:01.31 | Tupone | you get a strange host name |
| 22:01.55 | Tupone | and I know you have a lot of problem :( |
| 22:02.14 | sc-phone | yeah. I am using my phone |
| 22:03.14 | sc-phone | so it probably shows a weird host |
| 22:03.42 | Tupone | (~d@68.sub-70-209-72.myvzw.com) : drc |
| 22:04.03 | sc-phone | ooooo |
| 22:04.08 | sc-phone | hehe |
| 22:05.00 | Tupone | At first I guessed was you, but nothing as Donna, or Sportchick or host that could help :( |
| 22:05.38 | sc-phone | well, I just popped in to say hi. cya later |
| 22:05.44 | Tupone | cya |
| 22:07.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (include/cURLManager.h src/common/cURLManager.cxx): Adding setInterface, setUserAgent, and fdset. Needed for listserver |
| 22:09.10 | *** join/#bzflag awelux__ (~wizart@dsl-084-058-129-242.arcor-ip.net) |
| 22:12.24 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (ListServerConnection.cxx ListServerConnection.h bzfs.cxx): using curl to access list-server |
| 22:13.00 | Tupone | I wonder if someone can play with my changes. anyone with dev-access ? |
| 22:13.03 | *** join/#bzflag S1gn (~corwin@bzq-82-80-156-69.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 22:13.50 | S1gn | can I change maps without server restart? :) |
| 22:14.03 | Tupone | no |
| 22:14.52 | Tupone | unless is a random map, and all player go away |
| 22:15.36 | S1gn | ok... |
| 22:15.49 | brad2901 | Are bans in minutes? |
| 22:15.53 | brad2901 | or hours? |
| 22:15.56 | brad2901 | or seconds? |
| 22:15.59 | brad2901 | or... days? |
| 22:16.13 | S1gn | yrs in prison :-) |
| 22:18.12 | Birdie | minutes or hours i use |
| 22:18.13 | S1gn | brad2901: wiki says /ban ipList mins |
| 22:18.33 | brad2901 | Thanks S1gn :) |
| 22:18.41 | brad2901 | .. and Birdie :) |
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| 22:19.39 | S1gn | where to look maps rating, top 100 or something? |
| 22:25.45 | menotume | brad2901: ban xxx 2h <or> ban xx 2m |
| 22:25.53 | menotume | you specify hours,minutes,days |
| 22:27.33 | brad2901 | ah... |
| 22:27.49 | brad2901 | menotume: The default is minutes? |
| 22:28.06 | menotume | hmm. dunno, i always specify |
| 22:28.20 | Birdie | if nothing special used its minutes |
| 22:28.33 | orchid | Tupone: built |
| 22:28.45 | Tupone | :) and tested ? |
| 22:28.59 | orchid | wht to test? it uses curl for the list? |
| 22:29.27 | Tupone | bzfs .... if you can get all, like authorization, list update |
| 22:29.32 | Tupone | yeah |
| 22:29.51 | Tupone | menotume: you should test too |
| 22:30.01 | menotume | ok, i'm matching, but will soon |
| 22:30.10 | menotume | i will test what happens with bad connections :) |
| 22:30.29 | Tupone | I reworked all the listserver from bzfs |
| 22:31.11 | Tupone | hope it works :/ |
| 22:31.33 | menotume | i would suspect almost a full rerite of ListServerConnection.cxx |
| 22:32.48 | Tupone | hehe, I left mostly intact a procedure, but I changed her name |
| 22:33.57 | orchid | LIBCURL: libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.7g zlib/1.2.2 libidn/0.5.13 |
| 22:34.10 | orchid | looks like its working fine |
| 22:34.55 | Tupone | is the server public ? |
| 22:39.46 | orchid | Loaded master ban list from http://bzflag.org/master-bans.txt |
| 22:40.23 | Tupone | that was already in |
| 22:40.57 | Tupone | if that is public I can join. If I only knew the address |
| 22:41.03 | orchid | oh |
| 22:41.36 | orchid | ~bzfquery 209.217.110.244:7000 |
| 22:43.24 | orchid | ~bzfquery 209.217.110.244:7000 |
| 22:43.58 | Tupone | I don't see it in the list :( what name is ? |
| 22:45.05 | orchid | TestServer in Toronto" |
| 22:45.15 | orchid | but its not listing for some reason |
| 22:45.27 | orchid | the router setup is correct |
| 22:45.39 | Tupone | if is not listing, then there is my problem :/ |
| 22:45.43 | orchid | but my config is from last year sometime :-) |
| 22:47.20 | *** join/#bzflag Legoguy|L (~Legoguy@adsl-68-77-0-141.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 22:47.55 | orchid | not running now |
| 22:48.43 | Tupone | weee. I should fix it |
| 22:50.13 | orchid | I have to eat..bbl |
| 22:50.20 | Tupone | ty |
| 22:50.44 | Birdie | bon appetit |
| 23:00.17 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ListServerConnection.cxx: setPostMode must be called for using POST after the form data are filled |
| 23:00.27 | Tupone | I hope is better now :) |
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| 23:26.25 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 23:28.12 | Tupone | TimRiker: I think I've done, listserver from bzfs use curl, need more testing, but I'm out for sleeping |
| 23:30.20 | menotume | ~lart TimRiker |
| 23:30.26 | menotume | :) |
| 23:50.10 | TimRiker | menotume: I thought you were planning to use curl in bzfs? Tupone says he's redoing it using curl. |
| 23:50.24 | menotume | err. i was ? |
| 23:50.40 | menotume | i am working on advertise groups |
| 23:51.01 | menotume | tupone asked me to change GET to POST while i was in there, so i did |
| 23:51.13 | menotume | i _would_ have used curl, if i was familiar with it |
| 23:51.28 | menotume | I was worried about error detection/reporting |
| 23:51.47 | menotume | any, Tupone did it, i see it, and am testing it |
| 23:52.13 | menotume | we're not worried about 'packet sie' are we ? |
| 23:52.23 | menotume | cause, curl makes the post about 3x the size |
| 23:52.28 | *** join/#bzflag blast007 (~blast007@24.196.92.143) |
| 23:54.23 | TimRiker | menotume: huh? why does curl make it bigger? |
| 23:54.45 | menotume | it uses mutlti-part messages |
| 23:54.52 | TimRiker | ugh. |
| 23:54.53 | menotume | different content-type |
| 23:55.01 | menotume | maybe there's an option for that |
| 23:55.06 | TimRiker | can't that be avoided? |
| 23:55.14 | menotume | dunno - i don't know curl :) |
| 23:55.34 | TimRiker | a useful thing to do. |
| 23:56.28 | TimRiker | ibot: botmail for Tupone: menotume mentioned that curl uses multipart POSTs by default can that be changed? Might as well keep the packet size down if it's easy. |
| 23:56.32 | menotume | http://meno.zapto.org/bzcaps/tcpdump <== with curl |
| 23:57.17 | menotume | i don't have one with mine, but its: name=value&name=value[etc] (urlencoded) |
| 23:57.17 | TimRiker | interesting password you have there. ;-) |
| 23:57.21 | menotume | hehe |
| 23:57.33 | menotume | i set all passwords to xxx in my listserver db |
| 23:57.41 | menotume | easier to test |