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02:10.02Eowynhi orchid
02:10.22orchidhello Eowyn
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02:10.40orchidhello blast007
02:10.51blast007hello
02:11.11orchidhello brlcad
02:11.17orchid:)
02:11.42Eowyn831 users on #gentoo
02:11.46Eowynwow
02:12.17blast007cheater on hepcat  :/
02:12.24Eowynoh oh
02:12.27blast007doesn't die when you shoot him, just drops his flag
02:12.34orchidEowyn: gentoo mus be really broken if that many people need help :)
02:12.45blast007plus he might be able to turn faster
02:12.54Eowynduno
02:13.00Eowynit works for me
02:13.48orchidEowyn: did you do the 2005 update thing?
02:14.21orchidI tried to and broke it all horribly on my old laptop
02:15.15brlcadhello orchid  :)
02:16.01Eowyni havnt tried it yet
02:16.34Eowyni know one person that did the upgrade and it worked
02:17.31orchidits working now thanks to tupone
02:17.34Eowynorchid, what was the command you used to upgrade?
02:17.55Eowynhow did it breake?
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02:18.15orchidI'm not sure. I can boot it an paste the bash history if you like
02:18.26Eowynok
02:19.04Eowynwas it emerge world?
02:19.35orchidyep
02:19.43Eowynok
02:19.48orchidemerge was sort of messed up among other things
02:20.08Eowynim installing 2005.0 on my ultra 80 now
02:20.13Eowynahh
02:20.56codsI don't followed your discussion in detail, but that may happen when you don't upgrade portage prior to updating /etc/make.profile/ symbolic link
02:21.24codssorry if I'm missing completely what you're talking about :)
02:21.38orchidcods yes that part of my problem
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02:22.29codsin such case, you've to restore previous /etc/make.profile symbolic link, and update portage, then fix again /etc/make.profile
02:22.57codswhat's the version of your portage package ?
02:22.57brlcad_eep
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02:27.04menotumeping brlcad, learner
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02:31.27brlcadmenotume: pong
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02:37.13orchidEowyn: http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/gentoo.txt the revdep-rebuild was important I recall
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02:59.17koalabearHI all.
02:59.24koalabearwhat ports does bzflag need?
03:00.37orchidkoalabear: you can set it to use any port
03:01.04orchidit defaults to 5155 I believe
03:01.12orchidthis is to run a server you mean?
03:01.15koalabearok and that is for udp and tcp
03:01.35brlcad~bzfs
03:01.35ibotwell, bzfs is the BZflag server, you need: -publicaddr server.name.com:5154 *and* -public " come play here" must be set in your bzfs.conf, *also* open the port (5154 in this case) in your firewall/router *also* see http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer, or see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915
03:02.03koalabearMaybe, but if I'm behind a firewall, do I need to have port ports to play on other servers?
03:02.32brlcadkoalabear: ahh, for client, you have to open up whatever port they serve off of
03:02.38brlcadat least tcp and udp outbound
03:02.57brlcadport 80 is also utilized
03:03.02koalabearOh
03:03.07brlcadfor auth
03:03.33koalabearI"m just trying to setup my router thing with the right info
03:04.40brlcadyour router should allow outbound and established by default (at least most do)
03:04.54brlcadwhich means you don't need to do anything unless you want to host a server
03:05.25brlcadwhich firewall is it?
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03:07.52koala_Ok, its working
03:09.03koala_thanks
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05:11.35orchidnite nite
05:15.59Eowyncya
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06:53.40fabiannenoooo not learner >_<
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09:54.44leetcreepFatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
09:56.15CBGBZFlag keeps making my ibook crash. big time.
09:56.15CBGI'm not a happy little bunny right now!
09:57.51ruskielol
09:58.07ruskie<-- is used to crashy things...
09:58.15ruskiebut bzflag is going to far on occassion...
09:58.33ruskiei.e. I get shot and my monitor turns off and computer locksup complety needing a hard reboot
09:58.54leetcreepuh i get pretty far but thne crashes with that fetal sig
09:59.20leetcreepshould i be root?
09:59.20ruskieI ussualy just recompile while varying a few configure flags all the time
09:59.36ruskiethe --with-x and --with[out]-SDL flags
10:01.03leetcreepwhat is sdl
10:03.34CBGim posting it in bzbb...
10:05.02leetcreepyeah im checkinout the 4rum
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10:06.29ruskielo _Manu_
10:09.33_Manu_ruskie, hello!
10:10.07leetcreepBZFlag client 2.0.2.20050519-STABLE-linux-gnu-SDL (protocol 0026) http://BZFlag.org/
10:10.22leetcreepcould i be missing sdl?
10:11.00_Manu_it's built with SDL
10:11.04Birdieorchid_ ping
10:11.45_Manu_Birdie, timeout...
10:11.51_Manu_:)
10:12.01ruskielol
10:12.08ruskieit's silence on this end :)
10:12.13leetcreephow do i check if i have the lib
10:12.46_Manu_if bzflag runs you have it
10:13.32leetcreepbut id doesnt run i get a fetal error
10:13.42leetcreepFatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed)
10:13.50_Manu_mmm Freebsd..
10:13.54_Manu_?
10:13.59leetcreepSlack
10:14.17leetcreepmissing lib methink?
10:14.24_Manu_ah.. heh.. I missed the linux-gnu-SDL.. :)
10:14.44_Manu_well sometimes SDL is making problems.. :(
10:14.50_Manu_try to compile without sdl
10:15.50_Manu_or run: sdl-config --version
10:15.54_Manu_to know if you have sdl
10:16.26leetcreepgot sdl
10:16.38leetcreep1.2.8  is that outdated
10:16.46_Manu_1.2.8 is fine
10:16.49leetcreepi though i saw a 2 on there site
10:17.20_Manu_try to compile  bzflag without SDL
10:18.42leetcreepconfigure -SDL  ?
10:18.54_Manu_no... try: ./configure --help
10:19.08_Manu_and watch the correct option.. dunno ir --without-SDL.. read it
10:19.18_Manu_s/ir/if
10:19.44leetcreepwell i tried the linux installer this time ill just compile regular from src
10:20.24leetcreepinstall might not do all those correct configures? i dont kno i didnt make it
10:20.51leetcreepis there a server list somewhere?
10:21.21_Manu_well.. for a quick test.. you can do: ./configure && make
10:21.38leetcreepits already making
10:21.39_Manu_then from the bzflag directory type:  src/bzflag/bzflag
10:21.52_Manu_you don't need to install it for running
10:22.01leetcreepyeah i read that on a readme
10:22.26_Manu_only copy the bzflag binary file and the data directory to the desired place..
10:22.59leetcreepholy crap this is a big build
10:23.12_Manu_it deppends your computer's speed
10:23.22_Manu_mine 6-7 minutes
10:23.30leetcreep2.4   512ram
10:23.49leetcreep6-7 is a long build time
10:24.06_Manu_not for a big c++ program
10:24.07leetcreep<-- has yet to compile a kernel on this pc
10:24.24_Manu_c++ is slower compiling than c
10:24.39leetcreepbz's C++?
10:24.47_Manu_yep
10:25.19leetcreepSourceForge RoXors My BoXorz
10:25.22leetcreep!!
10:25.23TheLastSpartanleetcreep: Jien tah-duh gwa
10:25.45leetcreepwtf
10:28.32ruskiehttp://ruskie.dtdm.org/gallery/screenies/gkrellShoot_07_11_05_120818 <-- latest screenie of my desktop
10:30.31_Manu_ruskie, nice
10:30.46ruskiee17
10:30.47leetcreepsweet it started up!
10:30.58leetcreepgotta tweak with snds though
10:31.18_Manu_leetcreep, :)
10:31.54_Manu_leetcreep, also you can try default config.. (with SDL) compiling from sources
10:33.10leetcreepwhat shoulld i put for sound driver:alsa ? dev: /de/dsp ?
10:34.15_Manu_usually runs fine not selecting nothing.. if you are using dsp.. just select /dev/dsp
10:34.23_Manu_and be sure you got the correct rights
10:35.03leetcreepduh i checked my main sound and its dead ... why's that stuff always go out
10:35.39leetcreepwhy everytime i reboot alsamixers back to muted
10:35.43leetcreep?
10:35.50_Manu_use alsamixer for it ;)
10:36.41_Manu_it saves your selected options
10:37.45leetcreepi did
10:37.48leetcreepyesterday
10:38.28_Manu_errrr.. try alsactl   (man alsactl) as root
10:39.53leetcreepman alsactl i see never heard that cmd b4
10:42.58leetcreepexplains alot not having an asound.state
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10:46.26_Manu_:)
10:46.34optionhhiya
10:46.53leetcreepis there a way to restart any sound dameons
10:49.43_Manu_it can be different for every linux.. but usually  /etc/init.d/alsa restart   (start|stop|restart)
10:50.36leetcreep/dev/dsp device doesnt exist
10:50.47leetcreepwhat else could i be
10:53.37_Manu_left blank.. or use alsa
10:55.54ruskieif you're using udev and/or hotplug that should restore the aound from the asound.state file on bootup
10:56.51leetcreephotplug snds familiar
10:58.02leetcreepbrb
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11:03.56option:(
11:04.54CBGsmiling wont help.
11:05.05CBGstop bz crashing my iBook. that will help.
11:05.05jpa-:/
11:05.15jpa-get a pc
11:05.27option*nods*
11:05.28CBGbut a pc will crash WITHOUT bz.
11:05.32optionwith gentoo
11:05.42jpa-get a new pc if it crashes
11:05.44CBGugh, with linux... :)
11:05.56CBGI refuse to run windows.
11:05.59optionyes that's the ticket :)
11:06.06optionthats good
11:06.13jpa-windows is not an option, silly :)
11:06.24CBGthis still isnt helping though
11:07.07CBGhttp://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4469
11:08.17optionI got a great connection to hetcat and I got kicked for a high ping 300ms
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11:08.49optionI was around 280 to 300, and I was really pleased
11:09.15optionand to be kicked for a ping of 300 geeze that;s just bad pool. :)
11:09.46optionhad a great time.
11:10.47jpa-300ms isn't a great connection..
11:11.10optionwell sure it better than 400+ that I usually get
11:11.22optionmost of the time it was around 280
11:11.23jpa-and 300ms is quite much lag because bzflag doesn't have any lag-compensation
11:11.48optionok time to put lag-compensation in the code
11:12.00jpa-yeah, patches welcome
11:12.03optionI must be able to play in the US
11:12.17jpa-but i don't think it can be included until next version bump
11:12.38optionI guess the server and the client need to know about compression
11:12.43leetcreepworks now
11:13.00leetcreepsorry for all the trouble but thanx for all the help
11:13.14leetcreepnow who wants to get Fragd?
11:13.17optionits ok just fix my ping.
11:13.19option:)
11:13.26optionbeen there done that :)
11:13.54optionThere's nothing like a good fragging
11:16.27CBGso... nobody here can just snap there fingers to fix my problem?
11:16.40CBGdont tell me I have to wait till Jeff gets on. :(
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11:16.57optiondo you know anyone else that uses the same gear you do
11:17.05CBGnope.
11:17.12optionthta would help]
11:17.22CBGdid you read the post? http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4469
11:18.03optionno mozilla is playing up at the moment, I compiled it with stupid options :(
11:18.14leetcreepwhat the hecks "remote sounds"
11:19.22CBGlike if another tank goes through a teleporter away from you
11:19.27CBGthats a remote sound
11:19.31CBGoption: Basically, my ISP is really bad right now and I have been having problems staying online. It seems that my connection will just close up randomly for no reason. Whatever.... the fact is, it's not responding.
11:19.43CBGoption: The problem I have it that If I try to join a game or go to the server list (in game) It can cause my whole system to crash and I have to force my iBook to shut down by holding the power button in for 10 secs...
11:20.24optionsounds like a dns resolv problem
11:20.32optiondns can lock you machine up
11:20.36optionyour
11:20.55CBGhow do I fix that? (if I can...)
11:21.08optionI guess your using mac os X
11:21.17CBGyeah
11:21.23optionI have used that, 10.2.8, but it was awhile ago
11:21.33CBGIm on 10.3.9
11:21.39optionwhat you need to findout is where the dns numbers are
11:21.45optionand check those out.
11:22.04CBGdns numbers??
11:22.29optionyes do a search on google
11:22.36CBGk
11:22.39optionit will be in TCP
11:22.47optionI have not used 10.3
11:22.51optionmum has it
11:23.07optionyou should be able to fix it.
11:23.38CBGok :) ty
11:23.45optiongive it ago
11:24.01optionI take it it only crashed on net.
11:24.10CBGeh?
11:24.26optionusing net problems like browers
11:24.30optionand games and so on
11:24.55optionMy old isp had dns problems
11:25.01CBGAs i said, my internet connection just blocks up randomly
11:25.10optionand it used to cause problems of freezing up my system
11:25.17CBGand when it does, If I try to join a server or look ta list, bz causes the whole system to crash
11:25.26CBGI have to force the iBook to shutdown
11:25.29optionyeah its dns
11:25.36CBGokies :)
11:25.50optionbest of luck ^_^
11:26.33optionI"m reading bzflag strategies
11:27.21CBGOk, found the place to change them...
11:28.56CBGI did something.... :S
11:28.59optiondo you know your isp's dns numbers
11:29.01CBGLets hope. :)
11:29.05CBGno...
11:29.24optionbest to find out usually its automatic, but sometimes it doesn't work properly
11:29.38CBGI just kinda did a reset type thing
11:29.47CBGso I'll try it out for the day and see.
11:29.54optionOK
11:32.44leetcreepFAST PACED GAME
11:33.53leetcreep2 bbad my sound doesnt work... yet making progress though got some sounds in kde
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11:34.54optionYes, kde blocks the game sound
11:35.09optionyou turn off kde sounds. this is a quick fix.
11:35.18optionbut I'm sure there are better ways.
11:36.04leetcreepholy shit that worked ur awsome
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11:48.41leetcreepSWEET GAME!
11:49.36leetcreepif only you coullld move the turret  with ur mouse and use awsd for  movement
11:49.47option:)
11:50.07leetcreepis it just me or can nobody aim turret up and down?
11:50.22optionthats right
11:51.00optionhttp://web.archive.org/web/20040109004524/www.dervishdukot.org/home/bzflag/basics/radar/radar.html
11:51.04leetcreepsounds like this project needs more developers
11:51.20optionhere is a good site to checkout bzflag tuts
11:52.02jpa-moving the turret would draw attention from moving :)
11:52.06leetcreepwhat a groovy game
11:52.29optionThe game rocks
11:52.34jpa-now there is some challenge in dodging when you have to turn between shots :)
11:52.57usr010Turret needs to move by itself
11:52.59optionYes sure is when the limit is 5 or higher
11:53.11option3 is better
11:53.42usr010the jumping shit is ccrazy i was like WTF HAX!
12:07.01usr010any1 use konquerer
12:08.39jpa-no, there is no such thing
12:08.43jpa-i use konqueror
12:10.48usr010well in tree view i have that anoying blue line every other line how to i kill that
12:11.03usr010its giving me a headache
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12:14.10usr01050 cool point to however can figure it out  cause im still workin on it
12:14.27usr010ive gone through every option menu
12:14.38usr010prolly a darn key combo
12:15.31usr010funny its not like that in super user
12:17.26jpa-screenshot?
12:17.32jpa-i'm not having any blue lines
12:17.57usr010when i open konqueror from the "home" icon
12:18.11usr010and click list
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12:18.26jpa-so take a screenshot
12:18.26usr010oh well F it
12:18.26metonecahi  @ll
12:18.32jpa-ok
12:18.46jpa-metoneca: no aol speak, please :)
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12:19.47usr010lol's old ROFL RoX!
12:20.07metonecai need some help about UDP . i use bzflag 2.0.2 and have turned UDP on and opened UDP ports 17200-17220 at my firewall, but on most servers i'm disconnected saying "turn UDP on"
12:20.54metonecahave no clue what i have to do now.. any hints please?
12:21.24usr010yellow Stickynotes   <3     I
12:21.52Tuponeyou closed all UDP port except those ?
12:22.00metonecayes
12:22.08usr010maybe its backwards   all open exept those
12:22.21Chestalnormal NAT should handle the UDP as well as the TCP
12:22.24Tuponeport used is the same as the one opened for tcp
12:22.25metonecai picked the ports from the bzflag man files
12:22.34metonecaaha
12:22.43Tupone:( Need to fix that man
12:23.12metonecaso for example tcp port 5156 needs udp 5156?
12:23.28Tuponenope
12:23.53jpa-Tupone: i think he is using the client, not server
12:23.55Tuponethe tcp port used is chosen randomly from the OS IIRC
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12:24.26jpa-oh well
12:24.26metonecayes.. sorry.. forgotten to say i'm only a player, so client only
12:24.38jpa-why not allow everything outwards? :)
12:24.47metonecahehe.. nope
12:24.48TuponeI already guessed it
12:25.22TuponeNAT, unless bugged, should already handle it
12:26.17Tuponedon't block any UDP outgoing message
12:26.38jpa-everything outwards isn't a securityproblem imho
12:27.01metonecathe funny thing is, that on some servers my settings works fine, but on the most not
12:27.29Tuponesome server do not care about UDP
12:27.31jpa-what have you open for TCP outwards?
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12:28.37metonecano setup for bzflag's tcp.
12:28.50usr010hmm
12:28.53metonecabut it works..
12:29.42jpa-metoneca: why are you blocking outgoing connections anyway?
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12:30.59metonecacoz i like to have full control (everything is forbidden, except..)
12:32.15jpa-you are forbidding bzflag too :)
12:32.40metonecajust another question.. on some servers the used maps are incredible slow for me. does that have to do with UDP too?
12:33.35jpa-nope
12:33.51jpa-it is about your videocard and whether its drivers are working or not
12:34.24metonecahm.. geforce2 64mb ddr ram .. nvidia drivers working fine so far. thought that should be ok
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12:35.27metonecaanyway.. so it's not a connection prob, only a locally one
12:36.32optionyou made it hee
12:36.32optionhere
12:36.32koalabeartada
12:36.34jpa-check the fps
12:36.34jpa-(press 't')
12:36.50koalabeart for me is around 100fps
12:36.55metonecahehe, no chance.. it takes minutes to get a display with some maps ,)
12:37.23usr010what kinda video card u got koalabear
12:37.25metonecamaybe it's related to my old computer too.. it's only a abit bp6 board (2x 466mhz)
12:37.42koalabearjust a gefore fx200 I think
12:38.02usr010that sounds realy old
12:38.06koalabearof is it i use gentoo opt
12:38.10koalabearjust a min
12:38.47usr010<-- Geforce 5200 256DDR  cost me 70 bukz
12:39.15usr010if u get 100fps i get prolly a billion
12:39.45koalabearyep its one of those
12:40.06koalabearand yes I do get 100fps of course this changes
12:40.26koalabearbut its around there most of the time
12:40.34koalabearI also have gentoo, not windoze
12:41.07koalabearI run with very little overhead.
12:41.35koalabearYou should get one a billion fps would be very smooth :)
12:41.53koalabearcd ..
12:41.53koalabearls
12:41.59koalabearwhoops wrong window
12:42.25koalabear:)
12:42.59BenUrbanbe glad you didn't type sudo
12:43.02BenUrbanor su
12:43.11koalabearyeah not wrong.
12:43.22koalabearbut I probalby would of got my password wrong
12:43.29BenUrbanbtw, portage update today
12:43.36koalabearit is a pain to type. it's a japanese lady's name
12:43.44BenUrbanheh
12:43.48koalabearnext month.
12:44.01BenUrbanit would be even harder to guess if it were in japanese :P
12:44.20BenUrbanand most people in the channel wouldn't see it :P
12:44.27koalabear*smiles* yep
12:44.44koalabearI'm learning japanese.
12:44.51BenUrbanfun fun
12:44.52koalabearIt's lots of fun.
12:44.57BenUrban...and more fun
12:45.03koalabearYou bet!
12:45.10koalabearbut not as much fun as bzflag
12:45.16BenUrbanhehe
12:45.35koalabearin fact I have japanese instruction going while i play
12:45.36BenUrbanhaven't done that in awhile :P
12:45.42BenUrbanhaha
12:46.05koalabearWell its just me a bot most of the time.
12:46.16BenUrbanhmm i gotta finish getting ready for work
12:46.18koalabearI was talking to sir pants. today
12:46.24koalabearok take care
12:46.26koalabearhave fun
12:46.28BenUrbanlol
12:46.35koalabear:)
12:46.38BenUrbani have more fun at home
12:46.40koalabearbed time for me
12:46.43koalabear:(
12:46.46BenUrbanand i tend to be more productive
12:46.56koalabear*nods&
12:47.26koalabearnope
12:47.36koalabearwhile intstall a virus anyway
12:47.47koalabearIt will suck you dry of all your money
12:47.48koalabeartjat
12:47.53koalabearthat's how it works.
12:48.34koalabearls
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13:27.36Tuponeciao alex
13:31.17_Manu_Tupone, :)
13:31.30Tuponehola
13:32.31Tupone_Manu_: how does bzflag run on your gentoo ?
13:32.50_Manu_I tested year... 57-4 ;)  like a rocket
13:33.08Tuponeagainst who ?
13:33.15_Manu_errr.. s/year/yesterday
13:33.30_Manu_against lot's of players in viper server
13:33.54Tuponedid you rememeber to enable aers on curl ?
13:34.01Tuponeares even
13:34.26_Manu_I used standard 2.0.2.. today I got the cvs.. still not compiled cvs version
13:34.38_Manu_I'm updating portage and kernel
13:34.50ibunnymorning tupito
13:34.54ibunnymanumanu bonito
13:35.02_Manu_hola alexandra!
13:35.11Tuponeciao alexandra
13:35.33menotumemorning all
13:35.57_Manu_Tupone, well.. really all us up to date... but emerging some programs and tools
13:36.27Tuponeadd ares to make.conf
13:36.35Tuponeand remove ipv6
13:36.38ibunnymeno meno <3<3
13:36.38_Manu_is not a flag? k
13:36.46_Manu_I'm using -ipv6
13:37.01Tuponeibunny: <3 <3 <3
13:37.13ibunnyhehe willl you be the same when i get ops? ;)
13:37.24ibunnyor thats when ur <3<3<3 goes away :(
13:37.27Tuponenope, that is temporary :)
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13:37.56Tuponelove is not forever
13:38.00ibunnywell
13:38.12metonecaaah.. got it
13:38.21ibunnyyou love me as long as im not higher than you :p
13:39.30_Manu_Tupone, stable is 7.13.2.. is this version the desired.. or must I seletc the 7.14.0?
13:39.43metonecathanx for help.. cya next somewhere on the fields .. bye bye
13:39.52ibunnytchuess
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13:40.01Tuponecurl unstable
13:40.06_Manu_ok
13:40.22shorty114hi manu!
13:40.28ibunnymy manu!
13:40.28_Manu_shorty114, hi!
13:40.31ibunnyhmrr
13:40.32Tuponeibunny: that is just in #bzflag
13:41.08ibunnyyes it is
13:41.21ibunnydid you just notice it? :P
13:42.16Tupone:)
13:42.37ibunnyso at my place you wont mind :D
13:43.16_Manu_Tupone, ares is a flag for curl... what Makefile.am do you mean?
13:43.28Tupone/etc/make.conf
13:43.40_Manu_ah-...  heh
13:45.13_Manu_is noticeable the change? ;-p
13:45.56Tuponeput curl in /etc/portage/package.keyword and rebuild curl
13:50.05_Manu_Tupone, done.. but still compiling other packages... :/
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14:17.25ibunnyElectricElf: electrify meeeeeeeeeee
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14:18.09ibunnyhaha havent told him this in a looong time :D
14:18.28menotumeElectricElf doesn't talk
14:19.00ibunnyhe has
14:19.46ibunnyhe doesnt talk to you ?
14:20.06menotume:)
14:20.09menotumenot often
14:20.14ibunnytrue
14:20.26ibunnyafter 100 times telling him Electrify meee
14:20.31ibunnyhe answer me
14:20.37ibunnyheh
14:21.04ibunnyand i was in *schock*
14:22.38ibunnyahhh gool old debian times anyways.
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14:31.25CBGbb admins: more spam: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4470
14:33.08menotumethx CBG
14:33.11menotumegone
14:33.20CBGno, thank You!
14:33.22CBG:)
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14:35.15birdiethere is the webdesigner!
14:35.18CBGSaturos! Come chat on #bzleague
14:35.23Saturos:)
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15:01.39hw-SDL.h ? :/
15:08.08blast007hw-: if you're on *nix, you can check with your package manager for an SDL dev package
15:08.14blast007otherwise, http://www.libsdl.org/download-1.2.php
15:08.25blast007"Development Libraries"
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15:24.51CBGCan anyone give me a 3D model of a tank?
15:25.04SaturosThe 1.10.X tank?
15:25.31Saturoshttp://saturos.de/projects/upload/files/rendered_tank.blend (Blender-file)
15:25.49CBGAny bz tank. Thanks :D
15:25.56Saturos:)
15:26.41SaturosTrepan should have the 2.0.X-tank... I once found "my" tank on sourceforge somewhere.
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15:41.45hw-blast: thanks for SDL
15:41.50blast007:)
15:43.35hw-curl.h ? :(
15:43.53Tuponecurl-dev ?
15:44.31hw-curl/curl.h no such file or directory
15:44.56Tuponewhat distribution ?
15:45.17hw-found it http://curl.haxx.se/download/curl-7.14.0.zip
15:46.03trepanSaturos: the 2.0.x tank mesh additions are procedural, don't have a model file
15:46.20trepanwouldn't be that hard to make it though...
15:46.31CBGtrepan: does anyone else have one?
15:47.07CBGand how do i export a blend to photoshop?
15:47.33hw-export from where?
15:47.37CBGblender.
15:47.46SaturosYou have to render it and then select File-Save Image
15:47.48blast007CBG: you would have to export it to a flat image, like PNG
15:48.00SaturosThen it should maka a PNG which you can open with PS.
15:48.13CBGSaturos: When i render it< I can only see it from one angle...
15:48.19SaturosYes.
15:48.29CBGHow do I see it from another?
15:48.31SaturosYou have to move and rotate it so that you have the angle you want.
15:48.38blast007there's a camera you can move too
15:48.38SaturosAnd then render it.
15:48.43SaturosOr that way.
15:49.03CBGAh. Ok... This is more complex than wings.
15:49.20SaturosNo doubt.
15:49.52SaturosI am quite used to blender now... and I don't understand wings because of the lack of complexity.
15:50.13SaturosHeck, it has just one window to show the scene. And I couldn't find the options to make more.
15:50.36trepanwindow -> new geometry window
15:50.43SaturosYears ago when I worked with 3dsmax (the dark past with windows) I had four. :D
15:50.55SaturosOh, thx trepan. :D
15:51.30SaturosI didn't put much time into wings... thats right.
15:51.39SaturosMOuse-Wheel... ahahahahaaa!
15:52.03trepanif you're already comfortable with blender, no need to use wings...
15:52.21SaturosI drew the same conclusion and forgot about wings. :)
15:52.39CBGMouse wheel??
15:52.50Saturosnarf narf
15:53.01SaturosYou don't have one, do you? :P
15:53.08CBGNot on my iBook.......
15:54.25CBGheh. i got it...
15:54.27hw-<PROTECTED>
15:54.32CBGbut this sure is fiddely
15:55.47hw-can I just take "-lsdl" out of the Makefile ?
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17:42.22cosmoshrm, lapd gunned down a 17 month old child in an attempt to subdue her father
17:45.03Pimpi_Manu_: hi _Manu_  :)
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17:45.32Chestaluhm, I think I foudn some strangeness in src/net/Pack.cxx, has always been there since the dawn of CVS
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18:38.32ibunnyhm
18:38.47birdieibunny is still above:)
18:39.16ibunny:D
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18:44.21CBGWhen I log onto anonymous cvs, it asks for a password.... :S
18:44.54brlcadno password
18:45.02ibunnySEAN!!!!
18:45.05brlcadjust hit enter
18:45.11CBGTried that...
18:45.20brlcadthen it's temporarily down
18:45.31CBGIt just seems to exit.
18:45.40brlcadoh, then you're logged in
18:45.51CBGOh. :O
18:45.53brlcadlog in does nothing more than that
18:45.58brlcadnow you can checkout
18:46.49CBGOk... Thanks :)
18:47.32CBG'tis working :D
18:48.35CBGwow.... like speedy gonzalis!
18:51.13brlcadGonzalez
18:51.19CBGGah... :P
18:51.35brlcador Gonzales
18:51.46brlcaddepending on whom you ask :)
18:51.59CBGor gonzalis if you ask me.
18:52.26brlcadyeah, but yours is just plain wrong ;)
18:52.30CBGI did "./configure; make" and it says "BZFlag-2.0.3.20050711
18:52.30CBGconfigure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
18:52.30CBGmake: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop."
18:52.30_Manu_the speedy mouse..... I remember the b&w cartoons..
18:53.13_Manu_CBG, ./autogen.sh  ??
18:53.20brlcadthe latter should be the proper spelling (les) if I'm not mistaken for that apellido
18:53.23CBGI did that...
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18:53.56_Manu_brlcad, Spanish is Gonzalez.. but mexicans say (not writes) gonzales
18:54.13CBGI did the atogen.sh bit, now I have to run "./configure; make", right?
18:54.27_Manu_yes, first ./configure.. then make
18:54.32brlcad_Manu_: yeah, I know.. hence why it depends whom you ask :)
18:54.41CBGOh. So separate commands?
18:54.43brlcadbut for Speedy, I believe the official was les
18:54.52brlcadgoogle seems to agree
18:54.55_Manu_brlcad, :) in south spanish the end Z sound like a S too
18:55.15CBGThe official cartoon was leS. :)
18:55.50_Manu_the z changed along the time in Mexico.. heh
18:55.54brlcad_Manu_: I like the spanish accenting folks that make the z -> th sound :)
18:56.09brlcadlike what's that singer's name..
18:56.21brlcadtwo guys actually
18:56.22_Manu_like Mexico.. in spanish is Mejico  the X was replaced 200 years ago by the J
18:56.35brlcadthe one that just put out a new album single with shakira is one..
18:56.40_Manu_brlcad, I say the z not the s ;)
18:57.24CBGanyway........
18:57.30CBGHow do I configure?
18:58.00_Manu_CBG,  sumply enter: ./configure  and wait you don't missed any package
18:58.13_Manu_s/sumply/simply
18:58.25CBGdid that: "configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub"
18:58.45_Manu_wow... linux?
18:58.48brlcadalejandro sanz.. that's his name
18:58.51CBGno. Mac OS.
18:59.14_Manu_brlcad, his dad is dead.. (yesterday)
18:59.23brlcadoh really?
18:59.37_Manu_yes.. today was the "entierro".. heh.. dunno how to spell in english
18:59.42brlcadhot video
18:59.47brlcadburial
18:59.48CBGWhy did I bring that damn mouse up...... :( *sigh*
18:59.52_Manu_yes... Shakira and Alejandro..
19:00.08brlcadyum
19:00.33CBGso what does "configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub" mean?? ....
19:00.43brlcadCBG: I have trouble believing that autogen.sh completed successfully .. try deleting the cache files and re-autogening
19:00.46_Manu_CBG, sh is the common shell.. like sh, csh and bash for unix*like systems
19:01.14brlcadrm configure Makefile *cache* config.*
19:01.14CBGso what do i delete?
19:01.23brlcader, rm -rf
19:01.39CBGI run "rm -rf" ?
19:01.49brlcadrm -rf configure Makefile *cache* config.*
19:02.06CBGk
19:02.07brlcadshould just need *cache*, but might as well try a more full sweep
19:02.31CBGokay... should it say anything?
19:02.38brlcadno
19:02.53CBGok
19:02.55CBGthen its done.
19:03.31CBGnow do "./autogen.sh" again?
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19:03.40_Manu_no... now ./configure
19:03.45CBGok. :S
19:03.59CBG-bash: ./configure: No such file or directory
19:04.27_Manu_mmmm...the steps are: ./autogen.sh && ./configure
19:04.33brlcadso autogen.sh is failing
19:04.40CBGshall I start over?
19:04.42brlcadyet being quiet about it
19:05.05brlcadtry these steps:
19:05.08brlcadaclocal
19:05.17brlcadglibtoolize --automake -c -f
19:05.24brlcadaclocal  (again)
19:05.28brlcadautoconf -f
19:05.35brlcadautoheader
19:05.38brlcadautomake -a -c -f
19:05.47brlcadglibtoolize might fail, shouldn't matter
19:06.00CBGshould autoconf take time?
19:06.04brlcadyes
19:06.11_Manu_a few seconds..
19:07.16CBGok. I think Ive done all that.
19:07.27CBGbut the last one doenst seem to have finished
19:07.30CBGok. now it has.
19:07.44Grumblerheh, autogen, errors, say it aint so
19:07.58CBGnow what? :S
19:08.07_Manu_goto my second last sentence
19:08.25_Manu_heh
19:08.41CBGso now configure?
19:08.50Grumbleryep
19:08.51_Manu_try
19:09.12CBGheh. I dont want to just TRY stuff...
19:09.14Grumblerbrlcad< tupone did an update a couple weeks back
19:09.21CBGI could screw everything up from in terminal.
19:09.33brlcadthat crazy tupy
19:09.33jpa-ibot: no, Eowyn is a cutie not-elf
19:09.33ibotjpa-: okay
19:09.37brlcadsomehow i'm not surprised :)
19:09.55CBGits checking for loads of stuff
19:10.06CBGso I guess its working :)
19:10.20_Manu_Grumbler, I did today ./autogen.sh from a fresh cvs and worked fine
19:10.46Grumblerand?
19:10.51_Manu_CBG, watch the las message for seeing what is going to build
19:10.56_Manu_s/las/last
19:11.06CBGThis takes a good 10 minutes though?
19:11.23brlcadif those manual steps worked, then there's probably some assumption in the autogen.sh that is not holding
19:11.27brlcadand should be removed
19:11.29_Manu_the make spends 7-8 minutes for me
19:11.30Grumbleri was commenting on brlcads idea of change and indicated that the file has been migrating lately
19:11.47CBGits done. :o
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19:11.54_Manu_now  time make
19:12.01CBGfast..... like that f*****g mouse.
19:12.03_Manu_Grumbler, oh.. o_O
19:12.06CBGit says "BZFlag-2.0.3.20050711 with the following:
19:12.06CBG<PROTECTED>
19:12.06CBG<PROTECTED>
19:12.06CBG<PROTECTED>
19:12.06CBG<PROTECTED>
19:12.10CBGso it all worked?
19:12.13_Manu_yep
19:12.14brlcadCBG: nope
19:12.19Grumbler550mhz doesnt get you want you want
19:12.22_Manu_well.. without sdl
19:12.28CBGeh?
19:12.44_Manu_you must install SDL if you want it
19:12.47brlcadCBG: it'll work if you want to just try it, but you should work on getting it to say with SDL
19:12.57CBGaww man
19:13.01brlcadinstall the mac sdl packages (there are two) from libsdl.org
19:13.05CBGdo I have to?
19:13.07Grumbleri suggest a hammer
19:13.16brlcadof course you don't have to
19:13.28brlcadyou just will only be able to play full-screen
19:13.35Grumblerof course none of the devs run without it
19:13.35CBGOooh. okies
19:13.46brlcadand yeah, it's not nearly as tested as the sdl version any more
19:13.47_Manu_brlcad, you also can run bzflag -window  without sdl ;)
19:13.53brlcadmight be buggy
19:14.02brlcad_Manu_: not on mac os x :)
19:14.19_Manu_brlcad, oh :/
19:14.19CBGdo I want the SDL cvs? or 1.2 or 1.0 ??
19:14.29brlcadthe hooks were never implemented for context switching
19:14.33_Manu_I'm using 1.2.8
19:14.38brlcad1.2
19:14.54CBG:) got it.
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19:15.19CBGwhat do i do with it now? heh
19:15.40_Manu_First.. install SDL.. second ./configure again...
19:16.14CBGThanks for everything guys! :)
19:16.27_Manu_np :) we are glad to help you
19:18.18brlcad_Manu_'s glad to help, I try to distract
19:18.38_Manu_heh
19:19.40Tupone_Manu_: don't try to suggest people building without SDL. Better fix SDL if anything wrong
19:20.03_Manu_Tupone, hey.. I'm using SDL
19:20.17TuponeWhat I think on linux, is that SDL does not work great with bzflag binary
19:20.54_Manu_SDL allways worked fine for me using linux.. only got problems with FreeBSD
19:21.08_Manu_the Floating point exception.. and the SDL parachuted
19:21.13CBGokay. re-configured. now it says:
19:21.15Tuponeprobably is sensible to version built with and version in OS
19:21.17CBGBZFlag-2.0.3.20050711 with the following:
19:21.17CBG<PROTECTED>
19:21.17CBG<PROTECTED>
19:21.17CBG<PROTECTED>
19:21.17CBG<PROTECTED>
19:21.30_Manu_Tupone, I used 1.2.8 in boths
19:21.37_Manu_Tupone, FreeBSD and Linux
19:21.38Tuponebrlcad: thank for explanation :)
19:21.57_Manu_CBG, now just: make
19:22.04_Manu_or.. time make  ;)
19:22.18TuponeI mean, if binary is built with a version different then the one "one" actually uses
19:22.36_Manu_I mean.. compiled from sources.. boths
19:22.46_Manu_:)
19:23.13_Manu_but the Slackware guy (this morning) probably got problems because using differents versions
19:23.58CBGmake is taking a while
19:24.14_Manu_heh... it depends your computer speed
19:24.28CBG1.2ghx
19:24.30_Manu_CBG, be patient
19:24.33CBGI am....
19:24.58_Manu_c++ compiling takes a while.. k
19:25.05CBGk :)
19:27.40_Manu_btw.. why the tank gun has no hole? kk
19:31.40_Manu_CBG is now knows as CBG-the-Impatient
19:31.48CBGheh.
19:32.36CBGthe tank gun has no hole because its not worth the extra poly count or whatever
19:33.27_Manu_CBG, kidding..
19:33.36CBGeh. :|
19:34.16_Manu_also enabling turning the turret... can be cool..  :/
19:34.28CBGheh
19:35.13_Manu_but difficult to drive..
19:35.29Tuponeno turret turning >=|
19:36.02_Manu_making turning the turret.. changes completly the game
19:36.15CBGmanu == yoda
19:36.40_Manu_CBG, yoda!!!.. I'm not so ugly..
19:36.45CBGlol
19:37.27_Manu_and manu==yoda returns false.. hehe
19:37.33CBGlol
19:38.31CBGif (manu==yoda) {manu=ugly;} else {manu=pretty as a lady bug;}
19:38.50SaturosFlirting CGB? :P
19:39.10SaturosSry, CBG of course.
19:39.11_Manu_if (CBG == yoda) beep();
19:39.13CBGOf course. :)
19:39.13_Manu_beep!
19:39.19CBGlol manu
19:39.38CBGand wb satu :P
19:40.30SaturosAll over our school-toilets is written "CBG"... around 200 times. Everytime I have to get something out of me (whatever it is), you come to my mind. :D
19:40.43CBGhaha :D
19:41.05SaturosI will make a photo when I am back in school.
19:41.12CBGlol :D
19:43.08jpa-if (jpa == cute) this.hug(jpa);
19:43.10jpa-warning: comparison is always true to limited range of data type
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19:43.25CBGwhat language is that? :/
19:43.43jpa-something like c++ :)
19:43.53jpa-except the this. part i think
19:43.53SaturosYou was the one who made the first 2.0.0 maps, right? The ocean for example. Am I right?
19:44.10jpa-Saturos: yes, but they were not the first ones
19:44.23SaturosOkay, trepan had some too.
19:44.26jpa-some of the first ones for playing though i think
19:44.42Saturosbut your ocean was on top of the server-list for the first days.
19:45.00jpa-umm.. river was
19:45.00Saturostrue
19:45.03jpa-ocean wasn't
19:45.13CBGwhat was the river map?
19:45.16jpa-ocean came later IIRC
19:45.17SaturosRiver was ctf and ocean was the wings-server?
19:45.21jpa-yes.
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19:45.31jpa-(geez, i'm popular ,)
19:45.34CBGthe one with one river, 2 team CTF and a big wall?
19:45.40jpa-yes.
19:45.44CBGno jpa- just you talk not lurk.
19:45.51CBGheh - was a nice map...
19:45.56CBGI never see it anymore.
19:45.58SaturosAnd the ctf-bases were on top of cylinders with stairs inside.
19:46.02_Manu_oceans... tanks flying...!  heh nice mix
19:46.08CBGyeah!
19:46.08CBGI loved those bases.
19:46.11jpa-it is still on a rotation
19:46.17jpa-but fallen down the list
19:46.22SaturosI hated ocean. :D
19:46.33CBGI dont remember it.
19:46.46Saturosriver was okay but too hardware-hungry. I had 10 fps or so.
19:47.15SaturosBut the map was cool overall. No doubt.
19:47.23jpa-river is a bit hungry
19:47.30jpa-however, not that much nowadays
19:47.42jpa-i fixed it two months ago or so
19:47.49SaturosOh.
19:48.07SaturosIn comparison with Louman's it was very well playable. :P
19:48.13CBGlol :)
19:48.16CBGLouMan is a GOD.
19:48.21SaturosLouman's maps are unplayable for me.
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19:48.29Gnurduxhey brad2901
19:48.32Saturos5fps if I move slowly.
19:48.33Gnurduxi sent you a memo
19:48.35Gnurduxdid you try
19:48.42Gnurduxi was looking for you btw br
19:48.45Saturoshi brad!
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19:49.10CBG:o
19:49.11brad2901Hi Gnurdux
19:49.13brad2901Hi Saturos :)
19:49.15brad2901...
19:49.22CBGNo sex in public please jpa- and brad2901.
19:49.30brad2901umm
19:50.34jpa-ok
19:50.46jpa-brad2901: come here, lets close the gardins
19:51.03brad2901No jpa-, let's not!
19:51.10CBGawww
19:51.17CBGpoor rejectd jpa-
19:51.43jpa-brad2901: ok, we can keep 'em open if you like
19:51.52Saturoslol
19:51.57brad2901:(
19:52.14brad2901CBG wants you, you're a perfect match
19:52.37CBG"Oh, Tame ke, jpa-"
19:52.45CBGheh. s/tame/take
19:52.57jpa-but cbg is male :(
19:53.09brad2901Umm
19:53.14brad2901And I'm not?
19:54.10CBGyou think?
19:54.10CBGMake is finished, _manu_, brlcad, It said this last: make[2]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
19:54.10CBGmake[1]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
19:54.27CBG:x he has us confused....
19:54.35_Manu_now just do: src/bzflag/bzflag   for a quick test
19:55.00CBG"No fonts found  (the -directory option may help).  Exiting"  :(
19:55.04SaturosWhat are you doing cgb? Checking cvs?
19:55.09_Manu_use -directory=data
19:55.11CBGyes satu... :/
19:55.27SaturosIt always fails when doing make on my pc.
19:55.40_Manu_really path to data dir..
19:55.43CBG_manu_ eh? how? where?
19:56.07Saturossrc/bzflag/bzflag -directory=data I guess.
19:56.13_Manu_try: src/bzflag/bzflag -data=../../data
19:56.16CBGthat didnt work
19:56.19trepanor -dir, but either way, without the '=' iirc
19:56.24_Manu_heh
19:56.49_Manu_may be mac keeps the path there the binary is launched
19:57.01CBGOk. that seemed to work trepan.
19:57.11CBGbut when it loaded, nothing would work...
19:57.54CBGOkay. trued again.
19:58.05CBGthsi time it seemed to be working, but then just crashed.
19:58.20_Manu_what kind of error?
19:58.21CBGand again.
19:58.41CBG"Segmentation fault" when i try to lookup server list
19:58.58_Manu_mmm... are you using curl?
19:59.13CBGI have NO idea.
19:59.17menotumeahhh, i know what that is
19:59.25CBGdo tell, meno.
19:59.27menotumeyou need libcrul 7.14
19:59.39CBGcurl or crul ? :P
19:59.43menotume7.13.x will cause segfault o server list or connect
19:59.46_Manu_yes.. seems working fine with 7.14.0
19:59.51menotumelibcurl
20:00.35_Manu_I'm using curl with ares.. and it works.. smooth... :)
20:00.47menotumeyes, and faster global login :)
20:00.53CBGI found a "curl-7.14.0.tar.gz" is that it?
20:00.56_Manu_yes.. really... :)
20:01.07menotumeCBG: that be it most likely
20:01.12CBGokies :)
20:01.30menotume./configure --enable-ares --disable-ipv6
20:01.43Tupone:) need to install ares before
20:01.49_Manu_heh
20:01.59Tuponec-ares
20:02.00menotumeoh, thought he was upgrading
20:02.20CBGwaaa??
20:02.56CBGwhat do I do??
20:02.59TuponeCBG: use c-ares. You have to
20:03.14_Manu_first look for c-ares.. and install it
20:03.14CBGhow??
20:03.17CBGok
20:03.56CBGthe latest? (1.2.1)
20:04.00menotumeTupone: no more news on auth, i think Pimpi may be returning today
20:04.13_Manu_menotume, Pimpi is back ;-o
20:04.24menotumeahhh
20:04.29Tuponeok, lag is going back then. From a day to 1 hour
20:05.23CBGHow to install c-ares...?
20:05.33_Manu_CBG 1.2.1 is ok
20:05.48CBGyeah, i got it...
20:06.10CBGrun "install-sh" ?
20:06.35_Manu_well.. usually source packages are: tar xvzf package.... cd /package  ./configure && make && make install
20:06.45menotumethat's what i did
20:06.47_Manu_dunno how mac manages it
20:07.41CBGI tried that and got this: tar (child): package....: Cannot open: (null)
20:07.41CBGtar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now
20:07.41CBGtar: Child returned status 2
20:07.41CBGtar: cd: Not found in archive
20:07.42CBGtar: /c-ares-1.2.1: Not found in archive
20:07.44CBGtar: ./configure: Not found in archive
20:07.47CBGtar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
20:08.12bryjenuhm, those aren't all one command
20:08.18_Manu_what's the extension package?  tgz tar.gz bz2?
20:08.22bryjenManu left out the semicolons
20:08.30CBGoh wait.
20:08.41CBGI was using the folder, not the .tar thing
20:09.39CBGso, what do I do then? :)
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20:10.04bryjenextract the *.tgz   cd into the dir it made;  ./configure ; make ; make install
20:10.37CBGso put the.tar inside the folder it made?
20:10.42bryjenno
20:10.57CBGoh
20:11.58CBGsoo....?
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20:12.22Saturoschange with cd /path/to/folder into the new directory and then execute ./configure - but maybe you should install into a different directory in order not to overwrite your existing installation
20:12.38CBGah. thnx satu
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20:13.32SaturosIf you arent sure what the path to the directory is: cd is normally in /Users/your_user
20:13.50CBGits configuring now.
20:13.55Saturosk
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20:14.14bryjenthese are fairly standards steps for installing-from-sources
20:14.18CBGSays: config.status: creating Makefile
20:14.18CBGconfig.status: creating config.h
20:14.18CBGconfig.status: executing depfiles commands
20:14.31CBGbryjen: yeah... that really makes me feel good.
20:14.58bryjenso configure finished?
20:15.10CBGI told it to make and it gave me loads of errors
20:15.21Saturosits nearly always: extracting, cd, ./configure, make, (su), make install
20:15.48CBGhttp://pastebin.ca/17479
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20:15.55SaturosDoes it say at the end of ./configure something like: bzflag-912836936193 with the following:
20:16.15CBGSaturos. Im not configuring bzflag, remember...
20:16.22bryjenhe's working on c-ares at the moment
20:16.26Saturosah
20:16.29Saturossry, sry
20:16.32CBG:) np.
20:17.31bryjenbrlcad?
20:17.42brlcadnay
20:18.07Tupone1.2.1 source are the same as in the src/c-ares tree
20:18.37Tuponebut that tree is not seen by curl, so we need to install system wide
20:21.13CBGso, what do I do? :(
20:21.58Grumblerwow, saturos on irc, is the world ending?
20:22.25brlcad~seen strayerr
20:22.25iboti haven't seen 'strayerr', brlcad
20:22.27brlcad~seen strayer
20:22.27ibotstrayer <~s-t-r-a-y@p509116E7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 194d 4h 21m 48s ago, saying: 'thank you'.
20:22.34brlcadhrm
20:22.40SaturosYeah, I am here.
20:22.41CBGibot lies...
20:22.45TuponeCBG ... you're using a terminal window
20:22.45brad2901!seen strayer
20:22.49brad2901oh
20:22.52CBGTupone... yes...
20:23.04SaturosFound a cool irc-program. I can hide in the tray. Very cool.
20:23.04Tuponewhat is the name of the cares tar ?
20:23.23CBGc-ares-1.2.1.tar
20:23.37Tuponetar? not tar.gz ?
20:23.45CBG.tar .
20:24.02Tuponehave you done the "tar xvf c-ares-1.2.1.tar command
20:24.46CBGhave now.
20:25.10Tuponeso you now should have a directory called c-ares-1.2.1
20:25.18CBGI already did.
20:25.24Tuponego into it
20:25.34Tuponedo a ./configure
20:26.08CBGI did all this and got the errors at http://pastebin.ca/17479
20:26.55CBGnow "make" ?
20:27.10CBGcause thats when I get those errors... ^
20:28.05TuponeCBG could you file a bug report to the c-ares guy, and build curl without it
20:28.23CBGI have no idea... you tell me.
20:28.31_Manu_heh :)
20:29.11_Manu_CBG, gcc 4?
20:29.17CBG?
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20:29.29_Manu_the compiler: g++ --version
20:29.56TuponeCBG you need to play bzflag smoothly
20:30.07_Manu_with c-ares you gets like instant global identify...
20:30.14_Manu_i async..
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20:30.22CBGg++ (GCC) 3.3 20030304 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 1666)
20:30.22CBGCopyright (C) 2002 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
20:30.22CBGThis is free software; see the source for copying conditions.  There is NO
20:30.22CBGwarranty; not even for MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.
20:30.38epMy neighbor said he'd trade my Nvida FX 5200 for his FX5500 (same amount of mem i think) if I throw in $25.00 US.   How much difference is there between these cards?
20:30.43CBGbirdie:green?
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20:31.09_Manu_Tupone, op!
20:31.28Tuponeops
20:32.00CBGso now what? :(
20:32.20_Manu_forget c-ares.. and continue with curl
20:32.28CBGsure?
20:32.52CBGthen what do I do with curl now?
20:32.54_Manu_yes if you want to play
20:34.01Tuponebrlcad: can you build c-ares on your Mac and eventually fire a bug report
20:34.15brlcadpossibly
20:34.29epSpeaking of curl.... If I'm not using apt-get they want nothing to with me over on #ubuntu:)  I did dpkg -i bzflag_2.0 and ran into a dependency problem libcurl3 (>= 7.13.0-1)  my version is only 7.12 and its up to date.   So what is my next step?
20:35.31Tuponenot an ubuntu guru ... but I think you need to go with unstable for libcurl
20:35.45epAnd should I expect many of these dependency problems?
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20:35.58_Manu_I think so...
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20:36.40epI mean where I have to go with "unstable".
20:36.49CBGYAKarsten: who are you and what have you done with BearPerson?
20:37.36YAKarstenI'll tell you when my flood protection lets me talk again ;-)
20:37.53BearPersonI turned him into a ghost
20:37.53TuponeI think help can arrive from some debian fans :/ Ask the mighties orchid or Chestal
20:38.29CBGso... how do I finish doing curl now?
20:38.44Tuponedid you make install?
20:38.57_Manu_try the ./configure && make && make install
20:39.02Tuponeep: ask orchid
20:39.04CBGI forget :/
20:39.20_Manu_Pimpi also uses debian
20:39.31BearPersonCBG, on that c-ares... so you did do ./configure?
20:39.39BearPersondid that give any errors?
20:39.42CBGbearperson: then make.
20:39.50CBGconfigure gave no erros iirc
20:39.59epI use ubuntu orchid and I'm fairly new, I did dpkg -i bzflag_2.0 and ran into a dependency problem libcurl3 (>= 7.13.0-1)  my version is only 7.12 and its up to date.   So what is my next step?  
20:40.06CBGlast thins configure said was: config.status: creating Makefile
20:40.07CBGconfig.status: creating config.h
20:40.07CBGconfig.status: executing depfiles commands
20:40.17epbzflag*.deb I mean
20:40.20BearPersonhmm
20:40.32CBGthen did make and  got http://pastebin.ca/17479
20:40.39orchidep: can you compile from source instead of a packacge version?
20:40.53BearPersonyeah
20:41.07epi can but was hoping it wouldn't be necessary:)
20:41.35epwould that be the better way to go?
20:41.55BearPersonsorry, have to pass there too... my only guesses would be missing autoconf run or an old version that doesn't define the variables it needs
20:42.05orchidwhats the official version in ubuntu?
20:42.09BearPersons/version/version of something/
20:42.12CBGso now I just forget it and go for curl?
20:42.23epkubuntu really -- 5.04
20:42.25_Manu_orchid, 5.0.4 iirc
20:42.42orchidI meant bzflag :)
20:42.50_Manu_1.10.. heh
20:43.04brlcadTupone: c-ares builds for me
20:43.09orchidapt-cache show bzflag whos is the maintainer btw ?
20:43.11brlcadby default
20:43.11CBGgah.
20:43.41Tuponebrlcad: ok, seen the http://pastebin.ca/17479 ?
20:43.43CBGthat blows
20:44.00_Manu_CBS is now known as cbg-dissperated
20:44.09BearPersonor happy
20:44.15BearPerson:P
20:44.24orchidep: it looks like you have 2 choices, upgrade the whole system, or compile from source (which still might require upgrading curls version)
20:45.04Mrargh
20:45.18AnnoyedThats better.
20:45.28epI've done apt-get upgrade and upgrade-dist   already (isnt that upgrading my whole system)?
20:45.30AnnoyedSo how do I do curl now?
20:46.11Annoyedjust ./configure like before?
20:46.17bryjensame steps,  extract curl-x.x.x.tar ; cd curl-x.x.x/ ; ./configure ; make ; make install
20:46.33Annoyedokies :)
20:46.56orchidep: hmm upgrade-dist is new to me, an ubuntu thing? I use apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade, but probable the same thing
20:47.00bryjenonly the name they change ;)
20:47.06BearPersonshouldn't "make install" imply "make" too? or are the dependencies in the makefile not good enough?
20:47.17orchidep: so compile from source, nothing to lose, at worst it wont build :)
20:47.45epYes, I betcha it would still require upgrading my curls version....  I'd go on quest to get just this done.   Put I was wondering if I'd run into the same thing with a bunch of other dependecys or is libcurl the only problem.
20:48.14bryjenBearPerson: make can be done as a user, then go root and make install
20:48.18epi just typed it from incorrect memory
20:48.18orchidep: you have gcc and autotools and all that?
20:48.30orchidautomake
20:48.39BearPersonbryjen, or ./configure --prefix=~ ;-)
20:49.34Annoyedcurl is done...
20:49.51epyes i'm a programmer.... I compiled from source on my last distro (debian) and evenually got an unstable system SO i'm trying to avoid it for  a bit :)
20:50.31epIm fairly new to linux coming from windows
20:51.10Annoyedbetter than going the other way ep
20:51.25orchidep: ok cool, I never do make install so its easy to rip out if I no longer ewant it
20:52.02Chestalanyone saw my Pack.cxx commit?
20:52.17bryjenAnnoyed: on to compiling bzflag then.  guess what the steps are... ;)
20:52.22epthats cool
20:52.24Chestaland anyone who can think of why the code lien I removed made any sense?
20:52.29brlcadChestal: yeah
20:52.34Annoyedbryjen: okies... curl is still making though
20:52.37brlcadand not offhand
20:52.45Annoyedbryjen: I have to do bzflag all over again though?
20:53.02bryjenwell then, curl's not done.
20:53.09BearPersonorchid, that's what /usr/local is for :)
20:53.30Annoyedevidently... bryjen. but when it is, do I have to do bzflag all over again?
20:53.43bryjenyou don't have to extract again if you've still got it.
20:53.56orchidBearPerson: I guess, ~/src is good enough for me
20:53.59Annoyedso just the configure, make, make install stuff?
20:54.14brlcadChestal: some sort of 64-bit or 16-bit issue was the first thought that came to mind
20:54.14bryjenyup.  in the bzflag dir
20:54.30brlcadmemcpy takes either a void * or char * depending on how old the system is
20:54.56Annoyed(with curl) after "make" i run "make install" and it gives errors
20:55.05Annoyedpermission denied is one.
20:55.12Annoyedshall I "sudo make install"
20:55.17bryjenyou need to be root to install
20:55.20bryjenyeah
20:55.28Annoyedwow. I worked something out myself :D
20:55.35brlcadChestal: seemed like someone might have been trying to emulate a htonf via htonl
20:56.44brlcadif that's the case, then I bet both the before and after are slightly broken depending on your system :)
20:57.04Happydone, but it didnt output anything.... should it?
20:57.28_Manu_no.. now just run it
20:57.53Happy_manu_ talking to me?
20:58.03_Manu_Happy, no.. to CBG
20:58.10bryjentry curl --version, see what it says
20:58.11_Manu_:)
20:58.11brlcadChestal: regardless, yours seems more reasonable since it can/should just send the network order long
20:58.18Chestalbrlcad: hast du deinen Kernel dann eigentlich mit 3.3 kompiliert?
20:58.20Chestaloops
20:58.28brlcadnon :)
20:58.39CBGcurl 7.10.2 (powerpc-apple-darwin7.0) libcurl/7.10.2 OpenSSL/0.9.7b zlib/1.1.4
20:58.41Chestalsilly automatic reply feature :-)
20:59.15brlcader, i have compiled with 3.3 yeah :)
21:00.10CBGis that the right curl version then?
21:00.15bryjendid you have an older curl package installed?
21:00.21CBGpass.
21:00.43bryjenwhat was the name of the .tar you just compiled from?
21:00.50_Manu_CBG, no.. the desired is 7.14.0
21:01.11CBGcurl-7.14.0.tar
21:01.13_Manu_CBG, try ldconfig as root... :/
21:01.21CBGwait.
21:01.28CBGwhen i did sudo make install
21:01.37CBGit asked for passowrd and I just hit enter...
21:01.43CBGwas that wrong?
21:02.00jpa-yes, most probably
21:02.01bryjenunless your root password is blank....  which is wrong in itself
21:02.14_Manu_yes.. you must enter your root system password
21:02.14CBGI never set a root password....  :S
21:02.16jpa-but sudo.. have you got it installed?
21:02.23Eowynand a big no-no in my book
21:02.26jpa-what OS are you on? :)
21:02.32CBGmac os 10.3.9
21:02.52jpa-Eowyn: sorry for calling you an elf the other day
21:02.58CBGnvm folks
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21:03.13Eowynjpa-, np :)
21:03.16CBGI just used the password for the admin account (the one I am in now) and it seems to work
21:04.03CBGbut curl --version still says "curl 7.10.2 (powerpc-apple-darwin7.0) libcurl/7.10.2 OpenSSL/0.9.7b zlib/1.1.4"
21:04.23ibunnyuhm..
21:04.25EowynCBG, do you have the root account enabled?
21:05.00ibunnyi have no voice!
21:05.18Eowynaww
21:05.23bryjenit matters not
21:05.36TuponeCBG /usr/local/curl-config ?
21:05.56Tuponeor /usr/local/curl --version ?
21:06.05TuponeI miss a bin
21:06.15Tupone/usr/local/bin/cur;
21:06.16Tupone/usr/local/bin/curl
21:06.18Tupone<PROTECTED>
21:06.19CBGuhm.. what ibunny? :P
21:06.20CBGeowyn: what is a root account anyway? heh
21:06.33Eowynnm
21:06.42brlcadit's an account that grows in the Underground
21:06.44CBGcurl 7.14.0 (powerpc-apple-darwin7.9.0) libcurl/7.14.0 OpenSSL/0.9.7b zlib/1.1.4
21:06.44CBGProtocols: ftp gopher telnet dict ldap http file https ftps
21:06.44CBGFeatures: IPv6 Largefile NTLM SSL libz
21:06.54Eowynlol, brlcad
21:06.55ibunnyCBG, nothing important.
21:07.00CBGSeriosuly, I was never asked to make a Root Account.
21:07.07CBGWould it just be the original one I made?
21:07.12Eowynits disabled by default
21:07.14CBGor the admin one, or what?
21:07.17CBGoh. lol.
21:07.33Eowyni prefer to enable it
21:07.50CBGso, the doing what tupone said, seemed to show that it has worked.
21:08.04CBGnow I /BZFlag/configure again?
21:08.08Tuponebrlcad: need instruction to use /usr/local installed curl instead of system one .. on Mac
21:08.23TuponeCBG: wait brlcad
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21:09.09CBG~dict waites
21:09.21CBGHi I_Died_Once. :)
21:09.25CBG~dict waits
21:09.29I_Died_OnceCannonBallGirl ??
21:09.33CBGYo :)
21:09.38I_Died_OnceHey dude
21:09.53CBGif you wanna chat, go to #bzleague
21:09.59I_Died_OnceIs  brlcad around ?
21:10.03CBGhe is.
21:10.04I_Died_OnceOr Learner ?
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21:10.14CBGlearner == brlcad
21:10.24I_Died_OnceI was told to seek them out\
21:10.34I_Died_OnceHow about Mr Tim Rikers himself ?
21:10.59Tuponeto seek ? why ?
21:11.14I_Died_OnceI was told by trepan that is who I need to talk to
21:11.29CBGbrlcad was here minutes ago.
21:11.41I_Died_OnceWe are using downloadable testures on Planet MoFo and I need to have my images at a web address that end in .bzflag.org or .bzflag.bz
21:11.56PimpiCBG: curl problem fixed?
21:12.01I_Died_Onceand I need to talk to someone as I plan on rotating out images every few days or so
21:12.03CBGpimpi: dont ask me... heh
21:12.13CBGI_died_once: they wont host porn... :P
21:12.20Pimpiheh, was your problem, no?
21:12.33I_Died_Oncewithout the headache of telling everyone to edit their "DownloadAccess.txt files
21:12.34TuponePimpi: I should have fixed all the authorization problem I introduced
21:12.39CBGyes. but that don;t mean if I know if its working or not.
21:12.59brlcadbrlcad's never here
21:13.03PimpiTupone: yeah, meno already told me :)
21:13.05brlcadoh wait, there he is
21:13.07I_Died_OnceI plan on doing user submissions and such
21:13.12Pimpi~Tupone++
21:13.12CBGalthough, It seemed to say that version = 7.14.0 which is what I wanted
21:13.13I_Died_OnceYes!!!
21:13.15purple_cowbrlcad: are there plans for a bzflag shindig in LA?
21:13.29TuponePimpi: have you rebuild your server ?
21:13.32brlcadpurple_cow: i don't even have travel sorted out, but I hope so
21:13.45I_Died_Oncehow do i whisper on here
21:13.56Pimpii was short of time, so i justwent one week back
21:13.58jpa-I_Died_Once: /msg nick private message
21:14.01CBGuse /msg brlcad message
21:14.06purple_cowwell, let me know if you hear anything. i'm going to try to get scanline to drive down from SF :)
21:14.11Pimpibut i will rebuild latest stuff soon
21:14.34CBGso Tupone: are we still waiting?
21:14.45Pimpiafter i revertet my latest commits and made it better ;)
21:14.56Tuponebrlcad: question for you from CBG
21:15.11brlcadI_Died_Once, you wrang?
21:15.26Pimpinite
21:15.32CBGbrlcad: no "w".
21:15.38CBGnight, pimpi/
21:16.12CBGbrlcad: you play a game where you press 'w' before typing a message to everyone? :P
21:16.39TuponeCBG need special instruction to use its curl (in /usr/local) instead of system one. I don't know how, since I'm ignorant on Mac (and other OS)
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21:17.58birdiehey tegan, nice to see you
21:18.13Teganhi birdie :)
21:18.17Eowynwhello wtegan
21:18.29CBGwlol wat wEowyn!
21:18.39Eowynwlol
21:18.49birdiei think he uses "w" for typing
21:19.02Teganhi Eowyn
21:19.12CBGwwe wknow, wbirdie.
21:19.25CBGwme wwants wgrapes wtoo!
21:20.10CBG:/
21:20.21Eowynno more grapes left
21:20.54Eowynwooooooo
21:21.00CBGwhehe
21:21.08Eowynwthat was mean
21:21.35I_Died_Oncebrlcad Do you have an email address I can get in touch with you at ??
21:22.37Eowynewwww
21:22.51CBGg2g play a match guys
21:22.59CBGill ome on later or tomorow
21:25.28ndimjpa-: You can remove the clips, I think he's well done now.
21:25.43jpa-yeah
21:26.21jpa-er.. forgot, logic analyzer is only useful with logical things ,)
21:26.23Eowynjpa- is unable to understand the output
21:26.30Teganlol
21:26.53jpa-Eowyn: yeah :S
21:27.00Eowynlol
21:27.05Eowyn:P
21:28.55Eowynjpa- still can't understand the output and blows a fuse.
21:30.08Eowynheheheheee
21:30.49jpa-ibot: Eowyn is also two-minded
21:30.49ibotokay, jpa-
21:30.54Eowynjpa- fumbles in the dark and drops the fuse
21:31.07Eowyn:)
21:31.24Eowynonly two-minded?
21:32.25Tegangdb brlcad
21:33.04Grumblerbe careful exec'ing brlcad, it could overflow in JeffM2501 or possibly even JBDGriz
21:33.36bryjenat least i didn't say forks ;)
21:33.38Eowynbrlcad segfaults
21:37.57Eowynwatch him sizzle
21:39.43brlcadEowyn has a dark streak :)
21:39.49Eowynheheheee
21:40.06Eowynmwhahahahahaaa
21:41.58brlcadTupone: that error is bizarre
21:42.03brlcadthat's supposed to be a mac?
21:42.27brlcadmaybe 10.4 got rid of PACKETSZ .. it was deprecated
21:43.49brlcadnope, not last I heard
21:44.27bryjenbrlcad: he said it was 10.3.9
21:47.52brlcadthen bizarro
21:48.53brlcadPACKETSZ comes from arpa/nameser_compat.h
21:48.56brlcadwho was that?
21:49.03bryjenCBG
21:49.24brlcadah, oh well
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21:50.30*** part/#bzflag ibunny (~alex@jolie.active.supporter.pdpc)
21:51.06*** join/#bzflag ElectricElf (~david@ElectricElf.developer.debian)
21:51.45Teganhi ibunny
21:51.53birdie~praise brlcad
21:51.53ibotAll hail brlcad!
21:52.37brlcadTegan: too late
21:53.11Teganoh... bye ibunny
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21:56.35epconfigure log here: http://pastebin.com/311518
21:57.37I_Died_OnceI sent the email, brlcad
21:59.48brlcadi know
22:00.03brlcadlearner will look into it eventually
22:00.14I_Died_Onceawww
22:00.41I_Died_OnceI'll be forever geatful
22:00.47I_Died_Once**greatful
22:01.15brlcadi can look into it more this evening as well
22:01.25brlcadbut the timing is horrible, this week is already toast
22:01.42bryjenMmm, toast
22:02.39*** part/#bzflag bryjen (~bryjen@63.147.94.151)
22:04.15brlcadI_Died_Once: the only issue I see is the address
22:05.18brlcadthere's an old bz player that goes by 'mofo' that I'm rather fond of in a nostalgic-way -- he would get prioritiy over the name if he asked for it
22:05.42brlcadactually bamf, so I suppose it's not exactly the same
22:05.49brlcadthough it used to be longer
22:06.16brlcadso yeah, it's looking better for ya :)
22:08.55I_Died_Oncewell I'll take PLanetMoFo.bzflag.bz
22:09.04I_Died_Onceor I'll take whatever you designate
22:09.12I_Died_Onceyou 'da man
22:09.20I_Died_Onceme is nobody, you're the man
22:13.28I_Died_OnceI'll be happy with any domain that is allowed in the defaul "DoanloadAccess.txt" file
22:13.51I_Died_Oncewith my horrid spelling / typing self
22:14.33brlcadis *.bzflag.bz in there?
22:14.45I_Died_Onceyeah
22:14.49brlcador are they listed individually?
22:14.58I_Died_Oncehold on let me look
22:14.58trepanthe default has bzflag.bz and bzflag.org
22:15.21I_Died_OnceDid trepan vouch for me yet?
22:16.22I_Died_Onceyeah here is the line from the file:
22:16.24I_Died_Onceallow *.bzflag.bz
22:17.32brlcadmofo.bzflag.bz created
22:17.54I_Died_Oncesweet
22:17.55brlcadit'll take a while longer to set up access though (another day or so)
22:18.04I_Died_Oncewell I do appreciate it
22:18.08I_Died_Oncejust email me the info I'll need
22:18.17I_Died_OnceI am forever greatful
22:18.33I_Died_Onceand do make sure to let me know your rules
22:18.43I_Died_OnceI ride the line and I wanna know where that line is
22:18.52brlcadgood to know
22:19.15I_Died_Onceeek Nooooo
22:19.16brlcadj/k
22:19.24brlcadi appreciate the honesty
22:19.57I_Died_OnceI plan on going off of the "This space for rent" gimmick and put up fake, silly ads
22:20.16brlcadwhat do you think would be a reasonable line?
22:20.24I_Died_Onceand other silly pics
22:20.48I_Died_OnceWell
22:20.51I_Died_Oncenothing illegal ??
22:20.56brlcadthat's a good start ;)
22:21.02I_Died_Onceno kiddy porn
22:21.07trepanany porn...
22:21.10brlcadthat would likewise be illegal
22:21.38I_Died_Oncemaybe girls in bikini's or lingerie...
22:21.38*** join/#bzflag DarkMaster (~MK@130.85.192.7)
22:21.55I_Died_Oncemaybe even a pic of a sign with a bad word on it
22:22.44I_Died_Onceor something just intrinsically "wrong"
22:22.55I_Died_Oncebut if you say no nudity, there'll be no nudity
22:23.13orchidisnt there enough of that on the internet?
22:23.17orchidor you need more?
22:23.40I_Died_OnceIf you say I can post pics of a FOrd and not a Toyoda, then I'll abide
22:24.01I_Died_OnceOrchid, I'm a purveyer of all things filth
22:24.20I_Died_OnceTheres always room for more porn
22:24.24brlcadyou calling ford filth? :)
22:24.40brlcador referring to patricia ford?
22:24.47I_Died_OnceNo, I'd call Toyota filth first
22:24.56I_Died_OnceMine slipped a rod through the engine block
22:25.06I_Died_Oncenow I gotta get it junked
22:25.12I_Died_Oncethats another story
22:25.28brlcadsounds like it
22:26.03brlcadI'll have to think about the content itself, I was thinking more along the lines of server use
22:26.14I_Died_OnceWell it WILL be for server use
22:26.22I_Died_OnceI got billboards up
22:26.26brlcadnot that kind of server
22:26.36I_Died_Oncea bz flag server
22:26.40brlcadnever mind
22:26.53I_Died_OnceI plan on using the images as textures
22:27.20I_Died_OnceJust let me know and ask whatever you neeed to know
22:27.22I_Died_OnceI'm out
22:27.24brlcadas for content, probably anything that doesn't offend orchid would be acceptible
22:27.31I_Died_Onceoh, ok
22:27.41I_Died_OnceIs orchid offended at the site of blood and guts?
22:27.44brlcadorchid is a good measure of tastefulness :)
22:28.32I_Died_OnceI'll be in touch
22:31.34brlcadtrepan: yeah, anonymous ftp may be the only good way to go in this case :)
22:33.59*** join/#bzflag RatOmeter (~chatzilla@139.78.95.188)
22:34.03trepanbrlcad: p.s. all those png's in /usr/ftp/incoming have already been copied
22:34.06shorty114are *.bzflag.bz domains up for free or something?
22:34.12*** join/#bzflag CBG (~Matthew@cpc3-stme1-5-0-cust91.cdif.cable.ntl.com)
22:34.52CBGso brlcad and tupone...
22:35.22TuponeCBG: export PATH=/usr/local/bin:$PATH
22:35.34CBGwhaaa?
22:35.43CBGI am getting bzflag from cvs again
22:35.50Tuponenope
22:36.07RatOmeterDev/Bug question, re: 2.0.2 std binary dist for windows... The "Find Server" server list sometimes returns me a different server than I selected (at least one server off as shown on list)
22:36.11CBGI am, cause I deleted it...
22:36.21RatOmeterKnown bug?  Anyone else experience it?
22:36.43TuponeRatOmeter: never heard about it
22:37.41CBGso: the curl version seemed to update... now I just need to build bzflag, right?
22:37.43RatOmeterI had selected amber, but got the next (or previous, can't remember) server in the list
22:38.20TuponeCBG: use the command I said before
22:38.29CBGin what dir?
22:38.34RatOmeterwent back to the list and, selecting by features description at the top, got amber by highlighting the other one (above or below)
22:38.39Tuponewhatever , then go to CVS and sh autogen
22:39.13Tupone~google nvidia ubuntu
22:39.35CBGby "go back to cvs" you mean cd into the dir of the cvs version of bzflag, right?
22:41.16brlcadtrepan: eep, I hadn't scanned incoming in a while -- thanks
22:41.53orchidTupone:  http://ubuntuguide.org/index.html#installnvidiadriver
22:41.54brlcadshorty114: I provide the bzflag.bz server for all things related to bz
22:42.08trepantwas the easiest way for Lou to do drops, meant to mention it a while ago...  :)
22:42.17TuponeCBG: yeah
22:42.22CBGokies :)
22:42.31brlcadtrepan: no, that's fine .. there's "other stuff" in there... :)
22:42.35RatOmeterMaybe a sync problem between changes in the list from the server and the list in the UI?
22:42.41RatOmeterExample: http://www.r-a-t.com/bzsrvrlist.JPG
22:42.47RatOmeter(screenshot)
22:42.57shorty114brlcad, bz websites, bz servers? like that?
22:43.15RatOmeter(amber ain't CTF)
22:43.19brlcadshorty114: yep
22:43.25shorty114brlcad, cool
22:43.32RatOmeter(er, not Rabbit)
22:43.35brlcadshellshock, for example, is probably the premiere site up there
22:43.48shorty114ah yeah, i forgot shellshock was on there
22:43.51shorty114is it PHP, MySQL?
22:44.17brlcadis what?
22:44.56shorty114is it hosting or just the domain name?
22:44.56brlcadshell shock's site is maintained by Dutchrai.. you'd have to ask him the details :)
22:45.05brlcadthe server itself is a full dedicated host
22:45.12brlcadcan run any server/service
22:45.32shorty114is shellshock on that server or Dutchrai's own server?
22:45.48brlcadit's on this server
22:45.55shorty114kk
22:48.38CBGtupone, brlcad, and anyone else... when I run ./autogen.sh it says:
22:48.39CBGconfigure.ac: installing `./install-sh'
22:48.40CBGconfigure.ac: installing `./mkinstalldirs'
22:48.40CBGconfigure.ac: installing `./missing'
22:48.40CBGMakefile.am: installing `./INSTALL'
22:48.42CBGsrc/3D/Makefile.am: installing `./depcomp'
22:48.44CBGBZFlag sources are now prepared. To build here, run:
22:48.47CBG<PROTECTED>
22:48.49CBG<PROTECTED>
22:48.57CBGis that right?
22:49.01shorty114yes
22:49.07Tuponeyeah for now
22:49.09shorty114i believe
22:49.19CBGThen I run ./configure and get: configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
22:49.53RatOmeterOK, I guess I should log my serverlist issue at sourceforge?
22:50.04shorty114RatOmeter, yeah
22:50.17RatOmeterwill do, then
22:51.05CBGso why the error?
22:51.38Tuponebrlcad should know, hopefully.
22:52.04*** part/#bzflag Tupone (~Tupone@Tupone.active.supporter.pdpc)
22:55.38menotumebrlcad: I-Died_once showed me his billboards - they had a topless pics of girls :)
22:55.47CBGmenotume: yeah...
22:56.11menotumedoesn't offend me per-dsay, but not appropriate for GP
22:56.16CBGbrlcad: hello?
22:56.23CBGyeah meno. agreed.
22:56.28*** join/#bzflag Ice_Wewe (~Wewe@user-10cm5gs.cable.mindspring.com)
22:56.30menotumeperhpas use of textures could be tied into groups somehow
22:56.45Ice_Wewehi
22:56.55CBGhi
22:57.00Ice_Wewehow is it going?
22:57.22CBGbad
22:57.29CBGbrlcad is dead...
22:57.31CBGo
22:57.36Ice_WeweI'm not allowed to play BZFlag for a month, I forgot to mow the lawn 'cause I was playing and now I can't play till mid-august
22:57.40Ice_Wewedead?
22:57.42Ice_Wewehow?
22:57.46Ice_Wewewhen?
22:57.49CBGomg. i do believe I just tried to run lagstats in IRC... :/
22:57.56CBGNot literally...
22:58.00menotumeone has to prove that they are adult by, say, paying bzbb with a credit card, to be added to the 'ADULT' group :)
22:58.04CBGhe just wont respond...
22:58.21CBGand you are really banned cause you forgot to cut the grass? lol
22:58.23Ice_Weweoh, I thought you meant in real life, I'm like, WOW!
22:58.25Ice_Weweyea
22:58.33CBGroflmfao
22:58.45Ice_Wewethey kicked me off, and made me delete the app, also my dad blocked the ports bzflag uses
22:58.51CBGlol
22:58.52Ice_Weweso I can't use it till mid-august
22:59.03CBGgo to a mates house.
22:59.04Ice_Wewebut they never said I couldn't go on the bzflag channel
22:59.09menotumewhen you sa you 'forgot' to cut the gras ...
22:59.09Ice_WeweCBG: I don
22:59.21menotumedo you mean you just put it off to play bz ?  :)
22:59.28CBGobviously... :P
22:59.30Ice_WeweI don't have any other friends near me that play BZFlag, my life has lost all meaning :(
22:59.54Ice_Wewemenotume: I wasn't really paying attition when they told me, and I never remember to do it, and my dad got really mad at me
22:59.56shorty114i haven't played BZ for 6 or 7 months, my life feels content
23:00.09Ice_Weweit sucks
23:00.12Ice_Wewe:(
23:00.24CBGshorty114: can you help me with cvs?
23:00.36shorty114CBG, shoot
23:00.41CBGwhen I try to configure it says "configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub"
23:00.44*** join/#bzflag ibunny (~alex@jolie.active.supporter.pdpc)
23:00.45Ice_Wewealso they took away my PC, which is what I used to play anyway, now all I've got is my iBook (which doesn't play BZFlag well)
23:00.58CBGI play bz fine on my iBook...
23:01.06shorty114CBG, is there a ./config.sub?
23:01.07ibunnycool ibook xchat crashed
23:01.18shorty114ibunny, haha "cool"
23:01.22ibunnyyeah
23:01.26CBGshorty114: nope
23:01.26shorty114cool... the ibooks on fire!
23:01.27ibunnymac isnt suposed to crash blablabal
23:01.32ibunnyhahah at it
23:01.37shorty114heh
23:01.52shorty114CBG, you _did_ run ./autogen.sh, right?
23:01.57CBGyup
23:02.02Teganhi ibunny
23:02.03ibunnyoh well my life is crashing,.. ibook was expected aswell
23:02.05ibunnyhaha
23:02.32ibunnyoh well
23:02.35ibunnybbl
23:02.37CBGwhen I did autogen.sh it printed:   configure.ac: installing `./install-sh'
23:02.37CBGconfigure.ac: installing `./mkinstalldirs'
23:02.37CBGconfigure.ac: installing `./missing'
23:02.37CBGMakefile.am: installing `./INSTALL'
23:02.37CBGsrc/3D/Makefile.am: installing `./depcomp'
23:02.37*** part/#bzflag ibunny (~alex@jolie.active.supporter.pdpc)
23:02.39CBGBZFlag sources are now prepared...
23:03.55CBGthere is a config.sub in curl and one in c-ares
23:03.58shorty114try doing sh autogen
23:04.05CBGbut we couldnt get c-ares to work anywya
23:04.06CBGok.
23:04.21usoRatOmeter: i often had those effects
23:05.11CBGthis tiem it only prints the BZFlag sources are now prepared... bit, noghint before!
23:05.12usoi'm having a wrapper script now which clears all cache of bzflag before starting
23:05.26Ice_Wewesorry g2g
23:05.31CBGbut I still get configure error: configure: error: cannot run /bin/sh ./config.sub
23:05.32usosince then it occours seldom
23:05.36CBGcya ic_wewe
23:05.43Ice_Wewealso I'm on vacation in Hawaii, and don't have the bandwidth
23:05.45Ice_Wewe:)
23:05.53Ice_Wewebut I still can't play till mid-august
23:05.55Ice_Wewe:P
23:05.56Ice_Wewebye
23:06.10*** part/#bzflag Ice_Wewe (~Wewe@user-10cm5gs.cable.mindspring.com)
23:07.08shorty114CBG, you mentioned that there was a config.sub somewhere else?
23:07.19CBGhang on a sec
23:07.39CBGlast time i did this, someone made me put in a series of commands
23:07.39shorty114do
23:07.49CBGI just did that, followed by ./configure
23:07.54CBGand it is configuring...
23:08.43CBGlast bit is: BZFlag-2.0.3.20050711 with the following:
23:08.43CBG<PROTECTED>
23:08.43CBG<PROTECTED>
23:08.43CBG<PROTECTED>
23:08.43CBG<PROTECTED>
23:08.48CBGlemme test.
23:10.02CBGwait
23:10.08CBGI need to "make" now?
23:11.07CBGits "making"... :D
23:11.29shorty114yay
23:13.04*** join/#bzflag BenUrban (~benurban@pcp07709741pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net)
23:13.12CBGits ben! :)
23:14.00BenUrbanyes it is
23:14.17CBGthinks he might get cvs to work at last!
23:15.04CBGI need a Bz bb admin NOW!
23:15.11CBGPlease....! its urgent!
23:15.38CBGEither an admin is messing with my account as an unfunny joke, or it has been hacked!
23:16.50brlcadCBG: pong -- you have to run the steps manually like you went through the first time
23:16.58CBGpurple_cow chestal menotume dtremenak
23:17.10CBGbrlcad: i did. its making now.
23:17.25CBGare you a bb admin, brlcad?
23:17.33brlcadmenotume: GP? .. gen pub?
23:18.03brlcadmenotume: he could conceivably add a 'rating' or warning to the site's public message and it would probably be fine
23:18.39CBGUrgent!! Who here is a bb admin?
23:18.45brlcadthe bzbb idea isn't a bad one either, though nobody is gonna give a credit card I bet :)
23:19.56DTRemenakCBG: what exactly do you need?
23:20.31DTRemenakbrlcad: once the images are hosted they could be used by any bz server.  better not to host questionable material in the first place
23:20.44CBGagreed. :P
23:21.35brlcadthough they can do that anyways -- the point/preference as I've heard tim declare in the past is that they simply make it known that their server is not for kids
23:22.04brlcadif they're hosting a server, they can obviously host bad content regardless
23:22.11trepan.bzflag.[bz|org] are special  :)
23:22.14brlcadnot that I'm gonna let him
23:22.30cosmosbzporn.mydomain.org
23:22.47brlcadtank on tank action
23:23.29brlcadbrings a whole new meaning to the bunny hunt gamestyle
23:23.30cosmosi had a player ask if they could host a porn website on my bzflag server
23:23.36BenUrbanlol
23:23.52CBGlol
23:24.26trepanbrlcad: heck, free-for-all too; not quite sure what to make of capture-the-flag
23:24.50cosmos"since you have lots of bandwidth for bzflag game can u host my adult website too??"
23:24.55BenUrbanLMFAO
23:25.06BenUrbani presume you banned that guy
23:25.24cosmosnot until after he started spamming threats when told no
23:25.29brlcadtrepan: if you drop the l, it makes more sense
23:25.44BenUrbanhehe
23:26.12brlcadcosmos: how much was he willing to pay?
23:26.23cosmosnothing.  that was the real kicker
23:26.27BenUrbanhaha
23:26.27brlcadheh
23:26.32Eowynlol
23:26.33BenUrbanwhat an idiot
23:27.06cosmosbecause i have all this bandwidth for "free" if i can host a game
23:27.15BenUrban...or...you could offer to host it, but uninstall apache
23:27.17Eowynhah
23:27.28BenUrbanso nobody can access it :P
23:27.33brlcad~bzfquery hix.bzflag.bz:4126
23:27.35cosmosben: he wanted me to install microsoft IIS
23:27.41BenUrbanoh that'
23:27.43BenUrbans just nuts
23:27.44BenUrbanlol
23:27.46Eowynugh
23:27.54BenUrbanyou run linux, right?
23:28.08cosmosno
23:28.11BenUrban!!
23:28.13cosmosbut i dont run windows
23:28.16BenUrbanoh
23:28.17BenUrbanbsd?
23:28.20brlcad~wake up
23:28.20ibotup: GOOD MORNING!!!
23:28.22EowynBSD?
23:28.22cosmosif i have to
23:28.25BenUrbanlol
23:28.25Teganatheos?  syllable?
23:28.27cosmosi prefer real iron
23:28.37cosmosi have sgi origin 2000 machines at home
23:28.40BenUrbanah
23:28.47Eowynahh
23:29.02cosmosbut my bzflag is on a hosted bsd server
23:29.10cosmoscertainly not windows
23:29.31cosmosid rather colocate an apple //c
23:29.38brlcad~bzflist
23:29.51brlcad~bzfquery hepcat.org:5154
23:29.57brlcadwth
23:30.11BenUrbanso what was this guy's callsign?
23:30.17brlcad~nslookup hix.bzflag.bz
23:30.39cosmosit was something like TankMaster2000
23:30.42BenUrbanah
23:30.52cosmosthis was about 3 months ago
23:30.58BenUrbanoh
23:31.08cosmosbut you dont forget such nonsense
23:31.14CBGlol
23:31.31cosmosi should have said yes and redirected his website to the Trinity Broadcast Network
23:31.45BenUrban?
23:31.54cosmoswww.tbn.com  christian cable programming
23:31.57BenUrbanah
23:32.36cosmosa real riot of a tv station
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23:32.38Eowynlol
23:32.49Eowynthat would have fixed him
23:33.20BenUrbannaaah...only atheists and satan worshippers look at porn
23:35.01BenUrbanthat was sarcasm btw
23:35.34usr010wtf is my xscreensaver not workin it just goes to a blankk screen
23:36.54BenUrbantry turning on the monitor
23:37.11EowynO.o
23:38.09shorty114haha
23:38.16BenUrbanand plug it in too
23:45.28CBGI think it has finished making.
23:45.36CBGlast lines are:
23:45.36CBGmake[2]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
23:45.36CBGmake[1]: Nothing to be done for `all-am'.
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23:46.07trepantry:  ./src/bzflag/bzflag -dir data
23:46.42cosmos<Rael> hei if i install RedHat Enterprise Linux will my company network be hacker proofed?
23:47.34brlcadcosmos: tell him yes, as long as they enable the 'telnet' and 'ftp' security daemons.. *cough*
23:49.36Eowynoooooo
23:51.52CBGwow
23:51.59CBGwow wow wow wow wow
23:52.09CBGcvs is awesome
23:52.21CBGim too stunned to use punctuation or capital letters

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