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| 00:00.21 | menotume | byeya hiya |
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| 00:01.16 | menotume | hita: no 'back' button please |
| 00:01.22 | menotume | hiya: no 'back' button please |
| 00:01.28 | hiya | lol sry |
| 00:01.31 | menotume | :) |
| 00:01.36 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 00:01.41 | CBG | DTRemenak: Thanks. ;) |
| 00:01.48 | DTRemenak | CBG: np |
| 00:02.01 | CBG | You 'da' man. |
| 00:02.01 | hiya | still have my lag problem :( |
| 00:02.12 | menotume | hmm |
| 00:02.20 | CBG | Wait, where do/does the aporstraphie(s) in "da" go? |
| 00:02.22 | CBG | o |
| 00:02.51 | hiya | lol |
| 00:03.02 | DTRemenak | be careful with that, it does "ban" when you're admin iirc :) |
| 00:03.12 | CBG | That canNOT be a giid sign.! |
| 00:03.15 | CBG | (good. |
| 00:03.21 | CBG | eh. *good. |
| 00:03.22 | menotume | hiya: you know that lagstats will show a spike in lag in you iconify/windowify bzlfag, right ? |
| 00:03.50 | hiya | yupyup |
| 00:03.53 | menotume | !windowify |
| 00:03.54 | TheLastSpartan | menotume: Don't make me shoot you. |
| 00:04.00 | menotume | k |
| 00:04.06 | CBG | dtremenak: when will I be able to add people to my groups? |
| 00:04.13 | DTRemenak | CBG: right now |
| 00:04.14 | menotume | now |
| 00:04.26 | DTRemenak | use the "Usergroups" button |
| 00:04.30 | CBG | I am. |
| 00:04.36 | CBG | They ain't showing up. |
| 00:05.13 | hiya | i gotta grab some food |
| 00:05.15 | hiya | twill brb |
| 00:05.38 | menotume | i see why - one sec |
| 00:05.51 | DTRemenak | ah, you have registered both CBG and CannonBallGuy |
| 00:05.59 | CBG | Yeah... heh |
| 00:06.02 | menotume | i chnged one |
| 00:06.03 | CBG | I posted as CannonballGuy |
| 00:06.05 | DTRemenak | I assigned moderation to your short name, sorry :) |
| 00:06.09 | menotume | which one do you want to use ? |
| 00:06.11 | CBG | np :P |
| 00:06.13 | CBG | full. |
| 00:06.14 | DTRemenak | menotume: should be fixing it :) |
| 00:06.19 | DTRemenak | without the : even |
| 00:06.20 | menotume | yepp |
| 00:06.24 | CBG | I only use short on IRC. |
| 00:06.36 | CBG | cuase the full is too long.. :/ |
| 00:06.38 | DTRemenak | yeah, sorry :) |
| 00:06.43 | DTRemenak | my bad |
| 00:07.13 | menotume | CannonBallGuy: try now :) |
| 00:07.17 | CBG | cheers :) |
| 00:08.03 | CBG | Is there anypoint having a person as a COP and ADMIN ? |
| 00:08.18 | menotume | depends on how you want to set it up |
| 00:08.33 | menotume | COPS usually have less provs than admin |
| 00:08.38 | CBG | yeah. ok :) |
| 00:08.41 | menotume | privs, evn |
| 00:08.48 | DTRemenak | CBG: people get the privs of any group they're in |
| 00:08.49 | CBG | so it only matters if COPs have a perm that Admins dont? |
| 00:08.55 | DTRemenak | exactly |
| 00:09.01 | DTRemenak | I was just typing something like that |
| 00:09.15 | CBG | Do you get th perms if you the moderator of the group? |
| 00:09.17 | Thumper_ | CBG - on my servers cops (junior admins) have limited privs. senior admins just have the extra privs no included in the junior admin group |
| 00:09.21 | DTRemenak | yes |
| 00:09.35 | CBG | Thanks guys :) |
| 00:09.45 | CBG | But I still dont know why I bother... |
| 00:09.56 | DTRemenak | CBG: because you like to? :) |
| 00:09.56 | CBG | I only have 128mbps upload anyway :D |
| 00:10.02 | menotume | i was wondering that too, since you'll soon be master-banned :) |
| 00:10.05 | CBG | because I was bored :P |
| 00:10.16 | CBG | soon? aren't I already? |
| 00:10.26 | DTRemenak | heh, won't be able to play on your own server :P |
| 00:10.27 | menotume | it takes a little bit to go live |
| 00:10.35 | CBG | Not true DTR |
| 00:10.39 | DTRemenak | menotume: actually it has to be updated manually now |
| 00:10.45 | DTRemenak | CBG: using -noMasterBanList? |
| 00:10.48 | CBG | :P |
| 00:10.59 | CBG | I forget... |
| 00:11.05 | CBG | but it is easy to do. :P |
| 00:11.14 | menotume | i was wondering how it goes from cvs to m.b.o. |
| 00:11.18 | CBG | menotume will get an email soon. :P |
| 00:11.26 | DTRemenak | menotume: it goes to w.b.o not m.b.o |
| 00:11.39 | menotume | ahh |
| 00:11.51 | CBG | oh, and whos idea was the nifty shot counter-timer thingy in the CVS version? |
| 00:12.00 | DTRemenak | and sf's shell servers are having a bit of ... trouble ... accessing the cvs servers |
| 00:12.05 | DTRemenak | CBG: :) |
| 00:12.22 | DTRemenak | actually I think I stole the idea from 1.8 |
| 00:12.32 | CBG | It was in 1.8 ?? |
| 00:12.56 | DTRemenak | yeah. have to check the screenshots to make sure, never could get the last half of it to compile on windows |
| 00:13.15 | CBG | wow :o |
| 00:13.26 | CBG | and it was removed? |
| 00:13.39 | DTRemenak | no, 1.8 is discontinuous |
| 00:13.47 | CBG | ah yes. :) |
| 00:13.50 | DTRemenak | 1.10 is based on 1.7 |
| 00:14.26 | CBG | no 1.9? |
| 00:14.44 | DTRemenak | 1.9 was 1.10 development, like 1.11 was for 2.0 |
| 00:15.22 | CBG | ah.. |
| 00:15.22 | CBG | how soon are we to 2.0.4 folks? |
| 00:15.48 | DTRemenak | be patient and it will surprise you ;) |
| 00:15.51 | Thumper_ | CBG: stop hassling them :) it'll be out when it's out. anytime now probably ;) |
| 00:16.02 | CBG | hehe :D |
| 00:16.15 | CBG | Hyper hyper hyper! :) |
| 00:16.18 | menotume | you have it already, don't you cbg ? |
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| 00:16.30 | CBG | menotume: I ahve the latest CVS version... |
| 00:16.37 | menotume | right, that be it :) |
| 00:16.39 | CBG | well, actually it is Yesterdays now |
| 00:16.50 | CBG | as of 1hr ago |
| 00:17.01 | menotume | a day old already? |
| 00:17.04 | menotume | better update |
| 00:17.06 | CBG | yup. :P |
| 00:17.09 | CBG | hah |
| 00:17.13 | CBG | hardly worth it |
| 00:17.20 | CBG | It could take me the rest of the night |
| 00:17.26 | CBG | and what changes will there be? |
| 00:17.37 | menotume | none. |
| 00:17.38 | menotume | :) |
| 00:17.59 | CBG | How often would you suggest I update? |
| 00:18.01 | DTRemenak | there have only been two lines changed in the last 24 hours |
| 00:18.05 | menotume | wait, a new version date |
| 00:18.20 | CBG | Geez guys... You'r such slackers... :P |
| 00:18.23 | menotume | you'd get that |
| 00:18.30 | CBG | i'de get what? |
| 00:18.36 | menotume | a new version date |
| 00:18.42 | DTRemenak | if you really want to track cvs you'll want to update at least every couple days |
| 00:18.43 | Thumper_ | how much do you really want changed just before release? |
| 00:18.59 | CBG | once a week then. ;) |
| 00:19.06 | DTRemenak | the fact that not much is changing indicates it's about time to bust out a release |
| 00:19.14 | Thumper_ | let's throw in this batch of newly untested features just before release... so it can crash and burn :) |
| 00:19.21 | DTRemenak | Thumper_: BTDT :) |
| 00:20.02 | menotume | CBG: Don't you have a groups.db to work on or something? :p |
| 00:20.07 | CBG | or whenever I feel like it. :P |
| 00:20.07 | CBG | sounds good thumper_ |
| 00:20.07 | CBG | eh? |
| 00:20.09 | Thumper_ | LOL |
| 00:20.19 | Thumper_ | ~fishslap CBG |
| 00:20.19 | ibot | ACTION slaps CBG up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 00:20.20 | CBG | menotume: I am quite efeminate. I multi-task. |
| 00:20.31 | menotume | ahh |
| 00:20.41 | koalabear | :) |
| 00:23.28 | menotume | we should ban that 'peer' guy |
| 00:23.49 | koalabear | :) |
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| 00:24.23 | ibunny | wah its late |
| 00:25.02 | CBG | ~blinky thumper |
| 00:25.02 | ibot | ACTION slaps thumper on the head with a three-eyed fish named Blinky |
| 00:25.02 | CBG | Where is blinky? |
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| 00:25.30 | CannonBall | My ISP deserves an award "The Worst ISP of the millenia"... |
| 00:25.55 | CannonBall | what thing? |
| 00:26.01 | CannonBall | what I miss??? |
| 00:26.09 | koalabear | wild thing |
| 00:28.17 | CannonBall | oh and btw, please kick CBG. |
| 00:28.29 | CannonBall | Who isnt here.... :/ |
| 00:29.53 | DTRemenak | s/play/test :) |
| 00:29.56 | CBG | play with what? :P |
| 00:30.00 | CBG | oooh. ok ;) |
| 00:30.44 | koalabear | *smiles* |
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| 00:34.53 | koalabear | anjuta hasn't crashed out yet. ^_^ |
| 00:35.11 | CBG | yet..... :) |
| 00:35.19 | koalabear | I"m feeling lucky |
| 00:35.53 | koalabear | ide for kinda gnome |
| 00:36.20 | koalabear | I dont use gnome desktop, but I do use some of the libraries. |
| 00:37.07 | koalabear | oh ide for programing |
| 00:37.18 | CBG | oook. :) |
| 00:37.22 | koalabear | yep worked |
| 00:37.26 | CBG | nevermind, ignorance is bliss |
| 00:37.27 | koalabear | no crash, |
| 00:37.32 | koalabear | probalby is |
| 00:38.21 | CBG | Is there a way to PM each person in a group, in one go? |
| 00:40.13 | koalabear | I think you would need multiple CBGs for that working at exactly the same time. |
| 00:41.26 | Thumper_ | CBG: no (at least that was the answer I got from JeffM2501 when I asked it about a month ago) |
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| 00:57.11 | CBG | back... |
| 00:57.18 | CBG | Thanks thumper_ :) |
| 00:58.35 | CBG | I should really get to bed now... |
| 00:58.50 | CBG | 2AM is reallly kinda late... or early... ugh. |
| 00:58.55 | CBG | g'night folks |
| 00:59.10 | CBG | I will be mad if there is no 2.0.4 out tomorow.... :P |
| 00:59.23 | koalabear | :) |
| 00:59.52 | koalabear | night dont let the bed bugs bite, or the logic bugs either... they probalby hurt more. |
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| 04:00.44 | shorty114 | thanks, ibot |
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| 04:49.57 | jarjar42 | greetings |
| 04:50.07 | makaveli | ja |
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| 05:58.07 | bz3670 | i need help with something |
| 05:58.17 | bz3670 | how to customize flags |
| 05:58.52 | bz3670 | hello? |
| 05:58.57 | bz3670 | any1? |
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| 06:02.50 | DTRemenak | gaaaah. bzflag just locked itself in an infinite loop. and of course I was testing the release build, so I don't have debug symbols to find out where :( :( :( |
| 06:04.02 | Aribeth | ouch |
| 06:04.35 | DTRemenak | and it was after playing for 3 and a half hours too. not easy to duplicate. |
| 06:04.55 | Aribeth | man |
| 06:04.58 | Aribeth | :( |
| 06:05.09 | DTRemenak | ah well, I'll just pretend it didn't happen :) |
| 06:05.16 | Aribeth | heh |
| 06:05.49 | Aribeth | i went to the store today. came back to my car to find a blown heater hose |
| 06:06.10 | Aribeth | and colent everywhere |
| 06:08.38 | PinkBunny | how about little help, I get that "Could not set Video Mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual.". However I do have glx enabled in my xorg.conf, however my graphic card is set to generic ati (I have radeon9550 and am using bzflag 2.0.2) |
| 06:09.32 | PinkBunny | I need to download proper ati drivers to have it work properly? |
| 06:20.38 | DTRemenak | PinkBunny: find the "set resolution" and "set geometry" lines in ~/.bzf/2.0/config.cfg and set them to something your setup can actually handle |
| 06:20.49 | DTRemenak | or install the right drivers ;) |
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| 09:07.06 | Chestal | hi Tupone |
| 09:08.43 | Tupone | hi |
| 09:09.35 | Tupone | have you got any problem on current cvs HEAD. I think is time for a freeze. Do you think the same ? |
| 09:10.46 | DTRemenak | yes! |
| 09:11.21 | Tupone | DTRemenak: question is not for you :) Aim was Chestal |
| 09:11.34 | DTRemenak | sorry :( |
| 09:11.48 | DTRemenak | couldn't contain myself :) |
| 09:12.24 | Tupone | DTRemenak: how is curl + c-ares ? Did you build it |
| 09:12.32 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 09:12.53 | DTRemenak | 2.0.3b10 beta on bzbb includes libcurl 7.14.0 + c-ares 1.2.1 |
| 09:13.30 | Tupone | good ... the only problem I see is Mac, c-ares is fixed in CVS only, not 1.2.1 |
| 09:14.40 | Tupone | I wonder if curl guy can release 1.2.2 of c-ares (or whatever will be) |
| 09:15.27 | DTRemenak | I think our mac builds use libcurl in the package anyway |
| 09:16.38 | Tupone | but c-ares ? I know is borked in new MacOSX |
| 09:16.53 | Pimpinella | it's time for branching |
| 09:16.59 | DTRemenak | since they use curl in the package, can't c-ares be there too? |
| 09:17.05 | DTRemenak | if it is fixed anyway |
| 09:17.16 | DTRemenak | s/can't/mustn't/ even |
| 09:17.49 | Tupone | if some guy did it, or will do ... |
| 09:18.16 | DTRemenak | must talk to brlcad |
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| 09:20.16 | _Manu_ | Freeze! :) |
| 09:20.18 | Tupone | http://daniel.haxx.se/projects/c-ares/ <<< mentioning BZFlag :-) |
| 09:22.01 | Tupone | we could eventually include one of the snapshot: http://daniel.haxx.se/projects/c-ares/daily-snapshot/ . I know for sure the Mac there has been fixed. They take fixes contributed from here |
| 09:29.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (RecordReplay.cxx RecordReplay.h commands.cxx): replay 'loop' and 'stats' commands |
| 09:31.13 | Chestal | Tupone: I had the curl crash when I checked last time with the not-quite-so-current curl version |
| 09:31.47 | Chestal | I'd also like to analyse the dead reckoning anomaly (see BUGS). It's probably also in 2.0.2, though |
| 09:32.55 | Tupone | I don't know what is bad withthe curl version, I saw the problem fixed with 7.14 but I don't know why. Probably I should install it and test :( |
| 09:33.42 | Tupone | the DR things is just with gcc-4 ? |
| 09:36.59 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/RecordReplay.cxx: loop/stats part II |
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| 09:45.41 | Chestal | Tupone: no, the DR is a general problem |
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| 09:45.48 | Chestal | it's not a bug per se, more a quality issue |
| 09:46.13 | Tupone | ok, I will check it. I guess only with fast machine? |
| 09:46.44 | Chestal | I think so. I added an additonal sleep in main loop to reduce fps and probvlem was gone IIRC |
| 09:47.07 | Chestal | if I move on constant path, the DR should predict the path almost perfectly, thus no traffic is produced (well, 1 packet/s) |
| 09:47.34 | Chestal | but for some reason, the prediction and real tank pos differs more than the default tolerance already after a few frames |
| 09:48.05 | Tupone | you mean on the ground. If on elevated path is not |
| 09:48.34 | Chestal | have only tested on ground |
| 09:48.41 | Chestal | shouldn't normally make a differnce, though |
| 09:48.49 | Tupone | ok, 'cause tank tend to fall |
| 09:49.03 | Chestal | tank path is deterministic for both cases unless there's an obstacle or user pushes mouse |
| 09:49.39 | trepan | there's some nice DEBUG4 output w.r.t. DR |
| 09:49.40 | Tupone | DR does not take into account obstacle, so tank will fall down if elevated |
| 09:50.04 | Chestal | yes, I am only concerned with the trivial case, no obstacles or other events |
| 09:50.49 | Tupone | so, even if staying fixed at base, DR prediction is not good |
| 09:51.02 | Tupone | if base is like Hix ... elevated |
| 09:51.41 | Chestal | not sure why you always talk about elevated :-) |
| 09:51.50 | Chestal | I haven't even considered the third dimension |
| 09:51.59 | trepan | Tupone: PlayerState::Falling is also used |
| 09:52.16 | Chestal | x/y prediction seems to be inaccurate |
| 09:52.17 | Tupone | because -> @Chestal shouldn't normally make a differnce, though |
| 09:52.49 | Chestal | or let's say, it differs from the result of the local tank pos calculation |
| 09:53.27 | Tupone | I understand. Just taking input to test when at home |
| 09:53.34 | Chestal | ok |
| 09:55.48 | Tupone | so ... freezing blocking are curl, where we have a workaround, and DR. Both not really blockinh, but deserve a little analysis before |
| 09:56.50 | trepan | texture D/Ls working on win and mac ? |
| 09:57.03 | Tupone | s/freezing/freeze/ |
| 09:57.28 | Tupone | I guess. Never got any issue |
| 09:58.00 | trepan | should check before next rel, i keeping hearing that they aren't working |
| 09:58.33 | Tupone | DTRemenak, could tell about windows |
| 09:58.42 | DTRemenak | hm? |
| 09:58.49 | trepan | prolly also depends on libcurl version |
| 09:58.57 | DTRemenak | texture downloads work. caching might not |
| 09:59.12 | trepan | and updates? |
| 09:59.20 | trepan | that was borked for a while |
| 09:59.30 | DTRemenak | updates? |
| 09:59.49 | trepan | checks for texture updates... |
| 10:00.04 | trepan | also, it shouldn't really be spitting out "downloading" when it's using cached textuers |
| 10:00.24 | DTRemenak | that's why I don't know if it's using caching or not |
| 10:00.43 | DTRemenak | this connection is so fast I don't even notice 500k downloads at all |
| 10:01.32 | DTRemenak | I have no reason to believe it's not working other than an offhand comment by another player |
| 10:01.47 | DTRemenak | who was using an old 2.0.3 beta |
| 10:04.15 | Tupone | I think the downloading word come out even when we just check remote date/time of texture. Probably is wrong , but there is some network activity for checking that, so don't know really what put there ... and if they deserve mention. I think writing D/L is not a big bug |
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| 10:07.02 | trepan | heh, CVS bzfs core dumps on learner's server |
| 10:07.56 | trepan | #0 0x285ea073 in memcpy () from /lib/libc.so.5 |
| 10:07.56 | trepan | #1 0x28274d9e in _fini () from /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.3 |
| 10:07.56 | trepan | #2 0x28259c6a in Curl_http () from /usr/local/lib/libcurl.so.3 |
| 10:08.25 | trepan | LIBCURL: libcurl/7.12.1 |
| 10:08.56 | koalabear | is is gentoo |
| 10:09.18 | trepan | FreeBSD |
| 10:09.30 | Tupone | :( we need to debug it ... or upgrade curl. I tested only with 7.14.0. |
| 10:09.38 | Tupone | lately I mean |
| 10:09.44 | koalabear | not sure then, because cvs and gentoo gave me problems |
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| 10:09.54 | koalabear | add to update libcurl |
| 10:10.21 | Tupone | koalabear: add net-misc/curl to /etc/portage/package.keywords |
| 10:10.30 | Tupone | and emerge --sync |
| 10:10.50 | koalabear | i did that thanks Tupone :) |
| 10:10.59 | trepan | Tupone: enforce a min rel? (and make it mandatory, if it isn't already =) |
| 10:11.08 | koalabear | how had the best olive oil |
| 10:11.16 | koalabear | who |
| 10:11.20 | Tupone | unless I have time to debug, we need to enforce :/ |
| 10:11.46 | Tupone | koalabear: I should say Italy, but I guess greece |
| 10:12.04 | koalabear | Yes I think greece would be right. |
| 10:12.44 | koalabear | I fixed the problem with cvs with libcurl update |
| 10:14.33 | Pimpinella | what might be the reason when the server tries to add itself to the listserver every few seconds? |
| 10:14.56 | Tupone | when people join |
| 10:16.44 | _Manu_ | yes, it seems is making lag in the server.. I watched Viper server gets nr for all the players every few minutes |
| 10:17.22 | _Manu_ | and this is happening since the last cvs compilation.. is this true Pimpinella ? |
| 10:17.39 | Tupone | and last compilation does not have c-ares in libcurl ? |
| 10:17.54 | Pimpinella | ack |
| 10:18.01 | Pimpinella | Tupone: not sure |
| 10:18.51 | _Manu_ | and now I can see the server logs every post to list server using the same flags, when in older versions no |
| 10:19.43 | Tupone | aww, too much log ? |
| 10:19.51 | _Manu_ | yes... :( |
| 10:20.29 | Tupone | We can downgrade from debug2/3 to 3/4 |
| 10:20.41 | _Manu_ | like 14 lines every time a player join or left :/ |
| 10:20.45 | Tupone | Easy ... all in cURLManager |
| 10:23.10 | _Manu_ | old logs were 6-7 Mb.. every day.. now is 20Mb :/ |
| 10:23.54 | _Manu_ | and all this is making the server getting all the players nr for a second and dropping all the flags |
| 10:24.17 | _Manu_ | dunno if this is because the logs or curl :( |
| 10:26.33 | Pimpinella | excessive logging always sucked much performance |
| 10:27.02 | _Manu_ | I think.. is log can be moved to debug 3/4 not debug 2 |
| 10:27.41 | Pimpinella | but i doubt if this is excessive enough to cause this nr problem |
| 10:28.13 | _Manu_ | well.. this problems arrived since the last bzfs compilation.. (yesterday) |
| 10:28.21 | _Manu_ | and I can't watch any net problem |
| 10:29.03 | Pimpinella | do i have to make a customised build of libcurl to have c-ares included? |
| 10:29.06 | _Manu_ | and we got complaints about it since yesterday |
| 10:29.10 | Pimpinella | or what? |
| 10:29.40 | _Manu_ | I think adding c-ares to curl is the desired.. (and changing the debuglevel to 3) |
| 10:29.58 | Pimpinella | so....yes? |
| 10:30.05 | _Manu_ | I think so |
| 10:30.10 | Pimpinella | :( |
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| 10:30.45 | _Manu_ | from the client side.. I watched all working better since I added c-ares |
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| 10:31.52 | _Manu_ | quantumdot, spanishhhhhhhhhhhhhhh := |
| 10:31.55 | _Manu_ | :( |
| 10:33.39 | Pimpinella | maybe it's time to upgrade to sarge |
| 10:34.30 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 10:34.51 | Tupone | Pimpinella: you could also build libcurl locally and link it statically |
| 10:34.53 | Chestal | bzfs uses curl to talk with list server? |
| 10:34.59 | Tupone | yeah |
| 10:35.07 | Chestal | I thought curl was blocking only? |
| 10:35.19 | Tupone | no .. it is not anymore |
| 10:35.37 | Tupone | there is a multi interface for it |
| 10:35.40 | Chestal | ah, only DNS-lookup of it is? |
| 10:35.50 | Pimpinella | Tupone: yeah, i think i need to do that |
| 10:35.51 | Tupone | yeah, unless build with c-ares |
| 10:36.17 | Tupone | I should have increase DNS caching ... |
| 10:36.42 | Tupone | I have to make a note to myself |
| 10:36.49 | Tupone | s/to/for/ |
| 10:40.13 | Pimpinella | do i need cvs or is latest release of libcurl ok? |
| 10:40.31 | _Manu_ | I also can see from logs: * Connection 0 seems to be dead! :( |
| 10:40.39 | _Manu_ | many many times :( |
| 10:40.57 | Pimpinella | yeah, _that_ might cause nr |
| 10:41.24 | Pimpinella | since my way of logging is kinda expensive |
| 10:41.25 | _Manu_ | then close connection to list server and retry.. and his must make the players nr :( |
| 10:41.37 | trepan | Tupone: you might want to check if the curl lib has c-ares before allowing it to be used |
| 10:41.39 | _Manu_ | yes, and actually not async |
| 10:42.03 | _Manu_ | his is expensive :( |
| 10:42.34 | trepan | if it's truly causing DNS lookup blocking, it really should not be used with bzfs |
| 10:43.01 | Chestal | if it can be controlled (via infinite caching or so) it should be ok |
| 10:45.18 | Tupone | I can put a big cache time on it. Do you mind if the DNS translation is checked just at startup ? previously DNS was checked when bzfs goes with 0 player |
| 10:47.17 | Chestal | Tupone: can you reproduce that behaviour with CURL caching? |
| 10:47.27 | Chestal | not sure how the caching time works exactly |
| 10:47.54 | Chestal | so, when 0 players, force lookup, otherwise infinite caching? |
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| 11:12.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03pimpinella * 10bzflag/man/bzfs.6.in: |
| 11:12.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: update manpage |
| 11:12.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: Maybe somebody speaking better english tham me might review this? |
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| 12:27.13 | Tupone | Chestal: I don't know ... Have to look at curl source |
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| 13:08.18 | menotume | Pimpinella: are the '@' and '+/-' operators new ? |
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| 13:15.01 | Tegan | hi menotume |
| 13:15.09 | menotume | rehi :) |
| 13:15.26 | Tegan | I still have a - at gu |
| 13:15.28 | menotume | does global work for you now on GU ? |
| 13:15.34 | Tegan | nope |
| 13:15.39 | menotume | ewww |
| 13:15.52 | menotume | you use globale elsewhere ? |
| 13:15.57 | Tegan | everywhere |
| 13:16.08 | Tegan | long since forgot any local passes |
| 13:16.09 | menotume | this is GU:5154, right ? |
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| 13:16.12 | Tegan | yes |
| 13:16.16 | menotume | hmmm |
| 13:16.22 | Tegan | the HIX map |
| 13:16.28 | menotume | I got a PM from GSL saying that he did it. |
| 13:16.49 | menotume | right, but ports 5158 and 5159 are different (match servers) |
| 13:17.07 | Tegan | i could try those |
| 13:17.28 | menotume | they won't work for you :) |
| 13:17.28 | Tupone | Tegan: how do you play at GU? what nick? I play regularly and never seen Tegan |
| 13:17.32 | Tupone | and hi |
| 13:17.45 | Tegan | Tegan |
| 13:17.54 | Saturos | global works on 5154 |
| 13:18.00 | Tegan | I play there occasionally, lately as Tegan_ :( |
| 13:18.04 | menotume | one sec, tegan ... |
| 13:18.07 | Saturos | but you have to deregister your local registration |
| 13:18.16 | Tegan | I can't... forgot the pass |
| 13:18.47 | Saturos | but you are locally registered? |
| 13:18.50 | koalabear | :P) |
| 13:18.50 | menotume | Tgean, please go to GU:5159 |
| 13:19.09 | Tegan | I am, it even shows me as such on the gamesunited.de website |
| 13:19.15 | Tegan | menotume: ok |
| 13:19.30 | Saturos | k, that is the problem. he has to write to gsl to deregister the callsign locally |
| 13:20.14 | koalabear | gamesunited.de is a good server, nice maps. Can't play on it but its a nice place to watch. :) |
| 13:21.07 | Tupone | the map is mostly the one used on the old xmission server. Heard that Tim will revive it |
| 13:21.16 | koalabear | I found a server in the US that I can play on ^_^ strange thing is it seem to be run by DTRemenak |
| 13:21.30 | koalabear | It is a beautiful map |
| 13:21.36 | koalabear | I love the mirror water |
| 13:23.49 | koalabear | I can't keep my eyes open, bed time for me.. Night all take care, have fun ^_^ |
| 13:24.03 | Tegan | g'night koalabear |
| 13:24.46 | RedBaron2 | i just got up.. |
| 13:25.00 | Tegan | g'morning RedBaron2 |
| 13:25.21 | RedBaron2 | heh, mornin :) |
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| 13:46.09 | Tupone | Alex <3 |
| 13:46.23 | ibunny | tupo <3 |
| 13:50.01 | CBG | ibunny <3 <3 :P |
| 13:50.48 | TheRedBaron | orchid_: nice to see you back again :) |
| 13:50.51 | ibunny | cbg babes |
| 13:51.11 | menotume | TheRedBaron: you are requested on #dub |
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| 13:51.58 | menotume | TheRedBaron: you are requested on #dub |
| 13:52.20 | TheRedBaron | oh? |
| 13:52.26 | TheRedBaron | is it a trap? |
| 13:52.31 | Grumbler | TheRedBaron< you are requested on #dub |
| 13:52.48 | TheRedBaron | yea its a trap... |
| 13:53.00 | Grumbler | menotume< you are needed on the bridge |
| 13:53.17 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.21 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.37 | TheRedBaron | Grumbler: come be my bodyguard |
| 13:54.43 | TheRedBaron | yup it was a trap... |
| 13:55.17 | ibunny | join #hug-bunny |
| 13:55.44 | ibunny | hi menopie |
| 13:56.02 | menotume | hellos, and bye - going AFK |
| 13:56.14 | menotume | bunnypie <3 |
| 13:56.21 | ibunny | ^_^ |
| 13:56.43 | Grumbler | TheRedBaron< you are requested on #dub .....or else |
| 13:56.49 | Grumbler | :) |
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| 13:58.59 | TheRedBaron | is the word gullible written across my forehead? |
| 13:59.30 | TheRedBaron | good ratOmeter |
| 13:59.36 | RedBaron2 | no, but its on the bottom of you mug full of coffee.. |
| 14:03.04 | RatOmeter | so I'm wondering, developers. Where's the code that pulls the list of servers into bzflag? ServerMenu.cxx looked promising, but I didn't spot and communication code in there |
| 14:03.21 | RatOmeter | (didn't spot any...) |
| 14:04.13 | RatOmeter | ServerList.cxx perhaps? (looking) |
| 14:04.41 | Tupone | look in src/game/ |
| 14:04.56 | RatOmeter | yeah, looking at ServerList now |
| 14:05.49 | RatOmeter | any reason why the source files are named .cxx instead of .cpp? My editor(s) don't do syntax highlighting on cxx by default |
| 14:06.31 | Tupone | use emacs then |
| 14:06.44 | RatOmeter | I think I can train joe to do it |
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| 14:24.27 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03menotume * 10bzflag/man/bzfs.6.in: Add '-advertise' option to bzfs man page. |
| 14:26.50 | Grumbler | oh blast menotume, i am hacking the same thing |
| 14:28.12 | Pimpinella | menotume: +,- and ! are new |
| 14:28.14 | Grumbler | not sure about that one shot teaching anything |
| 14:28.29 | Grumbler | maybe on a lan |
| 14:28.38 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.59 | menotume | ahh, okies |
| 14:29.09 | menotume | i made very minor corrections to your wording |
| 14:29.32 | menotume | i am not much goodly with gammer :) |
| 14:29.52 | Pimpinella | ty, i'm sure i'm worse |
| 14:30.18 | menotume | Grumbler: then, you can ignore my changes, and just readd the -advertise stuff |
| 14:30.26 | Grumbler | heh |
| 14:30.56 | Grumbler | I am finding myself annoyed with the one shot paragraph...... |
| 14:32.21 | Chestal | one shot is good for you :-) |
| 14:32.32 | menotume | it seems ok to me, other than 'skill/learning speed' may not be in the scope of man page ? |
| 14:33.24 | Grumbler | in a non-lan game, lag is an issue, one shot is ridiculuous for anybody not "ping close" to the machine.........fight the one-shot bigots :) |
| 14:33.32 | menotume | on second thought, it seems fine to me |
| 14:33.35 | menotume | shows what i know |
| 14:34.08 | Grumbler | experience is not tied to shot count, experience is dealing with shot count to your advantage |
| 14:34.42 | menotume | change it to: 10 shots is highly recommended :) |
| 14:34.50 | Grumbler | heh |
| 14:35.30 | Chestal | ducati was killed today, btw. |
| 14:35.30 | Grumbler | pull! |
| 14:35.40 | Birdie | oh grumbler missed to say that |
| 14:35.41 | Grumbler | it was? |
| 14:35.51 | Chestal | yep, the machine is no more |
| 14:36.07 | Chestal | but maybe the name will live on later, who knows |
| 14:36.14 | Grumbler | some people are going to go through withdrawl if there isnt a replacement |
| 14:36.31 | Chestal | it was useless for some time anyway |
| 14:36.44 | Chestal | university internet connection has been having far too much jitter |
| 14:36.46 | TheRedBaron | ducati dead? |
| 14:36.49 | TheRedBaron | improbable! |
| 14:36.50 | menotume | it hasn't been on the list for a while now |
| 14:37.04 | menotume | ducati will live on forever, no matter what |
| 14:37.05 | Chestal | TheRedBaron: yep, the admin took the machine down today |
| 14:37.08 | Grumbler | man, chardonney, now ducati....... |
| 14:37.16 | Chestal | good old P75 |
| 14:37.27 | Birdie | people will always remember ducati |
| 14:37.31 | TheRedBaron | the longest running server in bz history? |
| 14:37.54 | menotume | perhaps nzfs would be a good 'test suite' for parallel processning ? |
| 14:37.58 | menotume | err, bzfs |
| 14:38.15 | Chestal | I'll see if I can migrate the server to another computer, and maybe this other computer will inherit the name. But it's really all pointless unless the network quality improves here |
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| 14:47.14 | RatOmeter | maybe I could host the 'ducati' map. Gigabit ethernet to a university backbone |
| 14:47.37 | RatOmeter | thoughts? |
| 14:48.39 | TheRedBaron | ducati isn't a map |
| 14:48.54 | TheRedBaron | its a random map with a 2-shot no jumping, and rico style. |
| 14:49.21 | RatOmeter | right. misspoke. |
| 14:49.33 | RatOmeter | meant "setup" I guess |
| 14:50.23 | RatOmeter | my current setup is 1 shot, no jumping, random map... stupidly fast tanks |
| 14:50.26 | menotume | ahh, oklahoma, that would be nice ! |
| 14:50.39 | RatOmeter | some folks actually complain they're getting sick and then sign off |
| 14:50.45 | menotume | lol |
| 14:51.11 | TheRedBaron | We have a few Ducati style Servers that are still running. Its just that Ducati was the original, and its sad to see it go |
| 14:51.34 | menotume | yes, we have some in .de |
| 14:51.49 | menotume | would be nice to have a public one in US |
| 14:52.16 | menotume | ~hail Ducati |
| 14:52.16 | ibot | ACTION bows down to Ducati and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
| 14:52.44 | RatOmeter | Shouldn't be any trouble running 2 instances of bzfs (different ports) under WinXP? |
| 14:53.06 | menotume | hmm, i dunno about winxp |
| 14:53.15 | menotume | dunno about the multi-tasking |
| 14:53.20 | RatOmeter | naught I can do but try |
| 14:53.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03galkire * 10bzflag/man/bzfs.6.in: language clean up. |
| 14:53.34 | menotume | i can provide a config if you like |
| 14:53.41 | RatOmeter | yes, please |
| 14:53.48 | menotume | ok, gimme a minute |
| 14:53.51 | Grumbler | menotume< give it a look see when it goes through, i think i editted everything but pimpi's edits :) |
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| 14:55.56 | Pimpinella | what about quol, is it still up? |
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| 14:56.12 | TheRedBaron | I don't know |
| 14:56.27 | TheRedBaron | last i checked he hadn't moved it over (which was a while ago so who knows now) |
| 14:56.27 | Birdie | i really doubt |
| 14:56.28 | Pimpinella | ~seen Quol |
| 14:56.28 | ibot | quol <~QS@modemcable131.110-70-69.mc.videotron.ca> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 55d 12h 24m 28s ago, saying: 'working lots?'. |
| 14:56.36 | TheRedBaron | that and I haven't seen him in ages. |
| 14:57.07 | menotume | RatOmeter: http://meno.zapto.org/bzcaps/duc.conf |
| 14:57.13 | menotume | change as needed, of course |
| 14:57.18 | RatOmeter | thanks |
| 14:57.22 | menotume | np |
| 14:59.03 | TheRedBaron | meno, that config has only has a max of 3 reds and 3 greens. |
| 14:59.17 | Pimpinella | oops |
| 14:59.28 | TheRedBaron | RatOmeter: its supposed to be 4 reds vs 4greens. |
| 15:00.00 | RatOmeter | OK, I can change it, then |
| 15:00.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03pimpinella * 10bzflag/man/bzfs.6.in: * is the operator not @ |
| 15:01.44 | menotume | Grumbler< looks good to me |
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| 15:02.48 | menotume | oh yes, and 0 for blue and purp |
| 15:03.28 | RatOmeter | got it |
| 15:03.39 | TheRedBaron | Menotume: thats the Match server config |
| 15:03.49 | TheRedBaron | because it also allows for /countdown |
| 15:03.54 | menotume | yes |
| 15:04.03 | menotume | well, 'change as needed' :) |
| 15:04.14 | TheRedBaron | is that what we are wanting? i thought he was going to host a public server. not a match server. but i can be easily confused |
| 15:04.33 | menotume | is up to him, and countdown permiss can be defined in groups |
| 15:05.41 | TheRedBaron | Not to be rude, but you offer the possibility of change, and we are looking to recreate, and ratometer probally doesn't know what the original recreation, that we are trying to fabricate |
| 15:06.12 | menotume | also, the '-ts' option won't work if you are running v 2.0.2 or earlier |
| 15:06.44 | menotume | TheRedBaron: not a problem, appreciate your input ! |
| 15:07.34 | menotume | note: /countdown is enabled on dub public, but permiss are controlled in groups.db |
| 15:07.42 | menotume | is better not to have it though |
| 15:07.49 | TheRedBaron | agreed. |
| 15:08.43 | TheRedBaron | I'd just hate for Ratometer to host it, then have a bunnch of confused ducati regulars miffed that this isn't a "ducati style" server, and poor ratometer would be confused as to what he did wrong. |
| 15:09.34 | menotume | well, my job is to confuse people |
| 15:10.07 | TheRedBaron | lol |
| 15:10.12 | menotume | :) |
| 15:10.38 | TheRedBaron | you have the nice job |
| 15:11.09 | menotume | yes, is much easier to confuse then to un-confuse |
| 15:11.17 | TheRedBaron | exactly |
| 15:11.28 | TheRedBaron | which is what I try to do... and end up confusing them more ;) |
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| 15:12.00 | Pimpinella | -d -d -density 4 |
| 15:12.00 | Pimpinella | -ms 2 -cr -tk -h +r |
| 15:12.00 | Pimpinella | -mp 0,4,4,0,0,25 |
| 15:12.24 | Pimpinella | this is my ducati config (well, at least core part of it |
| 15:12.30 | TheRedBaron | and in the case his map turns out popular, he's going to need more observers |
| 15:12.37 | TheRedBaron | sp/map/server |
| 15:14.16 | RatOmeter | menotume: eh? I thought 2.0.2 was the latest rev? |
| 15:14.26 | Pimpinella | yeah |
| 15:14.38 | TheRedBaron | latest 'official' rev |
| 15:14.43 | RatOmeter | ah |
| 15:14.44 | TheRedBaron | there are a few beta revisions. |
| 15:14.51 | Pimpinella | it's a little outdated compared to current cvs though |
| 15:15.02 | TheRedBaron | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewforum.php?f=62&sid=a8c0bc8339fc5e1108e960cd2854e70c |
| 15:15.26 | menotume | hmm, who hosts leauge.bzflag.bz ? |
| 15:15.39 | Pimpinella | brlcad |
| 15:15.42 | Pimpinella | i think |
| 15:15.45 | menotume | ahhh |
| 15:16.09 | TheRedBaron | really? |
| 15:16.12 | Pimpinella | at least bzflag.bz is his' |
| 15:16.19 | menotume | gotya |
| 15:16.23 | menotume | my lag is good there |
| 15:16.31 | TheRedBaron | i thought bzflag.bz domain was nidhoggr's |
| 15:16.48 | TheRedBaron | no wait, i'm confused.. |
| 15:16.55 | Pimpinella | i was hosting an 1vs1 there once, good server |
| 15:16.57 | menotume | my job is done |
| 15:16.59 | TheRedBaron | bad meno. |
| 15:17.12 | TheRedBaron | you've confused the un-confuser |
| 15:18.05 | menotume | it's brlcad's |
| 15:19.17 | TheRedBaron | the my.bzflag.org is nidhoggrs |
| 15:19.37 | RatOmeter | OK, took some bziagra and got it up at 139.78.95.188:5155 |
| 15:20.27 | TheRedBaron | lmao... bziagra.... |
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| 15:24.35 | RatOmeter | OK, back to work for me |
| 15:24.46 | RatOmeter | let me know if the config looks doinked |
| 15:25.19 | RatOmeter | BTW, seems to run fine with 2 instances of bzfs under WinXP |
| 15:25.50 | Pimpinella | my son is real good at destroying things |
| 15:26.17 | Pimpinella | like furniture |
| 15:26.56 | TheRedBaron | so was I as a kid... |
| 15:27.44 | TheRedBaron | then my dad taught me how to build things... So now he tells me i'm "paying back" what i destroyed as a child... |
| 15:28.09 | TheRedBaron | Only problem is... He charges some outrageous interest! |
| 15:28.47 | menotume | RatOmeter: yes, it looks good. may lag was v good - thx much |
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| 15:29.00 | menotume | shhhh, here he is ! |
| 15:29.20 | CBG | who? what is it? |
| 15:29.25 | CBG | why are we quiet guys? |
| 15:29.30 | menotume | huh? |
| 15:29.47 | menotume | oh, hi CBG :) |
| 15:30.09 | CBG | yo meno |
| 15:30.43 | Pimpinella | CBG: hey CBG, tnx for group addition, whats hat grop for? |
| 15:31.15 | CBG | Pimpi: because. |
| 15:31.35 | Pimpinella | ic ;) |
| 15:31.35 | menotume | because, he was bored |
| 15:31.39 | CBG | I wanted to set it all up, so that I can include instructions on how to do it in my Mac Server guide. |
| 15:32.26 | CBG | :) |
| 15:32.38 | CBG | I just added some random people for the sake of it |
| 15:32.54 | menotume | hehe, i feel 'special' for being random |
| 15:33.00 | CBG | you never know, maybe I will actually host a map on my 128mbps upload line for a couple days... |
| 15:33.19 | TheRedBaron | mb? |
| 15:33.32 | Birdie | Megabyte |
| 15:33.44 | RatOmeter | uh, that's a pretty fast link |
| 15:33.58 | TheRedBaron | i know |
| 15:33.59 | CBG | megabit I think... |
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| 15:34.14 | CBG | its slow... |
| 15:34.14 | TheRedBaron | i suppose you ment 128kbps? |
| 15:34.32 | CBG | I don't know. :( |
| 15:34.51 | TheRedBaron | its kbps then. |
| 15:34.57 | Pimpinella | i once had legoguys "caverns" on my dsl line (for testin issues originally) later there were 8 ppl playing on it and they said it was fine |
| 15:35.09 | RatOmeter | yeah, you'd *know* if it were 128 Mbps |
| 15:35.14 | CBG | I get bad jitter on everyone with more than a few people |
| 15:38.15 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03pimpinella * 10bzflag/man/bzfs.6.in: bzfs.6.in |
| 15:38.31 | CBG | g2g |
| 15:38.33 | CBG | bbl |
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| 16:08.15 | Grumbler | heh, there was a caller into the local radio station around here.......he was wonder how comcasts speed upgrade to 7 "millibits per second" would impact him. |
| 16:10.00 | TheRedBaron | lol |
| 16:19.13 | Pimpinella | wow, what was their seppd before? ;) |
| 16:19.31 | Pimpinella | s/seppd/speed |
| 16:20.59 | menotume | impact: his bill will go up by $10 next month |
| 16:21.39 | RatOmeter | sounds like the kind of genius who shouldn't be allowed on the net |
| 16:23.05 | Pimpinella | that way he can download 613998 Bit/year !! |
| 16:25.14 | RatOmeter | only slightly slower than my first setup with a Trash-80 and 300 baud |
| 16:27.29 | Grumbler | heh, comcast was 3M/384k before.....but its cable, so it degrades |
| 16:28.03 | Grumbler | i think my buddy is getting 7M/512k right now with the upgrade |
| 16:29.03 | Grumbler | heh, i just read donnacrawf, as donnacrawfish |
| 16:29.04 | Pimpinella | vila has 20M/1M |
| 16:29.20 | Pimpinella | adsl2+ |
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| 16:29.29 | Grumbler | that sounds nice |
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| 16:29.43 | Grumbler | the big question, how much? |
| 16:30.06 | Pimpinella | _Manu_ might know |
| 16:35.25 | Grumbler | right now i am paying ~$85 for 3m/768k adsl, my buddy ~$50 for the 7m/512k cable......... |
| 16:36.39 | Grumbler | of course, i am a bit more isolated then he is. |
| 16:37.16 | Pimpinella | no traffic limit? |
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| 16:42.19 | Grumbler | no traffic limit |
| 16:43.08 | Grumbler | but the pipe is not very wide |
| 16:43.25 | Grumbler | so my speed is very good point to point |
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| 16:43.47 | Pimpinella | $85 for 3m/768k adsl might be near to what we'd have to pay for that here |
| 16:44.30 | Pimpinella | germany is expensive even compared to other european countries though |
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| 16:45.07 | menotume | hiya hiya |
| 16:45.27 | Grumbler | interesting |
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| 16:46.41 | hiya | still having same silly lag issue :( |
| 16:47.22 | blast007 | :( |
| 16:47.34 | Grumbler | bummer |
| 16:48.37 | blast007 | yeah, I turned that computer off for a bit |
| 16:48.51 | Grumbler | i should really should just get a copy here....it cant be that hard |
| 16:49.01 | blast007 | one of the drives in there (a 60GB) took a dive, and I'm trying to recover anything I can :( |
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| 16:49.07 | Grumbler | oy |
| 16:49.14 | Grumbler | that doesnt sound good |
| 16:49.45 | blast007 | computer doesn't even think it's formatted...and I can't run a chkdsk on it |
| 16:50.15 | Grumbler | can you boot to a linux cdrom.....then copy from there? |
| 16:50.36 | blast007 | I could try |
| 16:50.57 | blast007 | windows is saying it's in RAW format |
| 16:51.16 | Grumbler | ouch |
| 16:51.40 | Grumbler | yeah, my limited knowledge would probably start failing you right about now.....good luck |
| 16:51.55 | blast007 | :) thx |
| 16:52.07 | blast007 | I still have a few things I'll try |
| 16:53.52 | Grumbler | i ended up installing on a spare drive and then read the drive on another machine......but I dont think my drive was as far gone as yours |
| 16:54.26 | Grumbler | still a pita to lose 80gb after only a year of use though |
| 16:55.15 | blast007 | this one went really quickly...the computer blue screened, and when it came back up, the device name had lots of $ signs after it |
| 17:00.35 | blast007 | "mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, or too many mounted file systems" :( |
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| 17:03.44 | bryjen | linux support for ntfs isn't so good |
| 17:04.27 | _Manu_ | well is enought good for reading it |
| 17:04.53 | blast007 | it's FAT32 |
| 17:05.10 | _Manu_ | what command wrote you? |
| 17:05.22 | blast007 | I just tried to open the drive from the desktop |
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| 17:05.44 | _Manu_ | better open a shell, create a dir for mounting it.. and then mount by hand |
| 17:06.11 | _Manu_ | for example: mkdir win and then mount -t vfat /dev/hdb1 win |
| 17:06.17 | Chestal | the partition table is still ok? |
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| 17:06.45 | blast007 | Chestal: I don't know, cuz I couldn't get Windows to even check for errors |
| 17:07.04 | bryjen | fdisk -l /dev/hdb |
| 17:07.07 | _Manu_ | for reading the partition table: cfdisk /dev/hdb |
| 17:07.23 | _Manu_ | blast007, try what i wrote earlier.. |
| 17:08.06 | _Manu_ | bryjen, probably cfdisk is easiest for blast007 :) |
| 17:08.13 | _Manu_ | and is inside knoppix |
| 17:08.28 | bryjen | fdisk -l just prints the table and exits |
| 17:08.42 | blast007 | the mount command gives the same error about the superblock and other stuff |
| 17:08.58 | _Manu_ | and the partition table? |
| 17:09.58 | blast007 | fdisk says it cannot open drive, and cfdisk gives the same |
| 17:10.25 | Tupone | dmesg ? |
| 17:11.10 | _Manu_ | blast007, I imagine the drive is power connected and it running ok? |
| 17:11.43 | blast007 | yup, it's up and spinning |
| 17:12.16 | bryjen | hdb = the slave drive on the first controller |
| 17:12.22 | blast007 | yup |
| 17:12.26 | Tupone | can you pastebin the output of dmesg |
| 17:12.49 | blast007 | 1 sec, let me see if I get get it up to the network |
| 17:13.43 | _Manu_ | can you do: dd if=/dev/hdb of=disk -bs 512 ?? if can read the drive you must get your mbr disk (512 bytes in file named file) |
| 17:15.06 | bryjen | bs=512 count=1 |
| 17:15.19 | _Manu_ | oh yes.. :/ my memory slacks |
| 17:15.31 | _Manu_ | so read all the disk.. lol |
| 17:15.48 | blast007 | oh, let me check something else quick |
| 17:16.29 | blast007 | okay, figured out why the fdisk didn't work...forgot to do a sudo |
| 17:16.55 | bryjen | yes, only root may f a disk ;) |
| 17:17.02 | blast007 | that shows that /dev/hdb1 is Win95 FAT32 |
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| 17:18.14 | blast007 | ah, running the root shell would make life easier ;) |
| 17:19.22 | _Manu_ | you can try fsck.vfat for repair it |
| 17:19.51 | _Manu_ | if you get it installed.. of course |
| 17:21.43 | blast007 | did a fsck.vfat -V /dev/hdb1, and it says there are differences between the boot sector and it's backup |
| 17:21.58 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 17:22.18 | _Manu_ | got you viruses? |
| 17:22.35 | blast007 | don't think so, running up-to-date antivirus |
| 17:23.11 | blast007 | the problem arose when the XP system halted to a blue screen |
| 17:23.31 | blast007 | not sure if the drive caused the blue screen, or the blue screen killed the drive :) |
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| 17:23.43 | _Manu_ | the blue screen of death.... :) |
| 17:24.11 | blast007 | "FSINFO sector has bad magic number" |
| 17:24.52 | blast007 | gonna do a dump of the dmesg quick |
| 17:26.30 | Grumbler | magic, magic did you say.....well there is your problem right there, go get a wizard with +2 spells and some dice |
| 17:27.19 | bryjen | bad magic even |
| 17:27.21 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 17:27.29 | blast007 | hehe |
| 17:28.37 | _Manu_ | and what was the fsck return status? |
| 17:29.05 | _Manu_ | no recoverable.. or recoverable errors detected? |
| 17:29.10 | blast007 | I didn't run any fixes yet |
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| 17:42.47 | Ice_Wewe | is everyone playing, or is it just me? |
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| 17:52.20 | Saturos | CBG! |
| 17:52.32 | CBG | Hi :) |
| 17:52.38 | Saturos | Why did you add me? Or: To what did you add me? |
| 17:53.43 | CBG | I was just making groups and stuff so that I know how to do it, so I can help other people do it. |
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| 17:54.02 | Saturos | Ah. So I am not actually a CBG.COP? |
| 17:54.06 | CBG | And I added you to the group so you have extra powers on my server, if it is ever up |
| 17:54.09 | CBG | you are. |
| 17:54.15 | Saturos | Oh. k. |
| 17:54.21 | CBG | but I cant' remember the last time my server was up :) |
| 17:54.29 | Saturos | :D |
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| 18:11.21 | Tupone | _Manu_: I just realized that curl with cares is stable. 7.13.2 , released on 7th of july |
| 18:11.48 | Tupone | so I can remove it from package.keyword |
| 18:13.24 | _Manu_ | Tupone, then better than 7.14? |
| 18:14.21 | Tupone | is not better, but is in stable. If we release bzflag for gentoo we should not ask for unstable |
| 18:14.33 | Tupone | and it works to me |
| 18:14.33 | _Manu_ | yes, I agree |
| 18:14.45 | _Manu_ | I'll try now |
| 18:15.21 | Tupone | I can play with it ... I miss the bzfs server test, but I guess is alright |
| 18:15.54 | _Manu_ | compiling curl 7.13.2... |
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| 18:22.31 | Chestal | ich glaub ich bin zu mde fr Kino |
| 18:22.32 | Chestal | oops |
| 18:22.43 | _Manu_ | kino.. heh ;) |
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| 18:30.47 | Grumbler | ducati goes down and chestal start to speak in his native tongue, we are all in trouble now... |
| 18:32.08 | Chestal | gazten spkenblumen gret! Warfen mut sandern golen. |
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| 18:33.27 | menotume | something about courage |
| 18:33.35 | menotume | so, he's not talking about me, good |
| 18:33.44 | Chestal | hmm, courage? where? |
| 18:33.50 | Chestal | ah |
| 18:33.59 | menotume | bad translation i guess |
| 18:34.00 | Chestal | well, not really :-) |
| 18:34.54 | menotume | this is what i got: "gazten spoekenblumen gret! Threw courage sandern golen" |
| 18:34.56 | menotume | heh |
| 18:35.11 | Grumbler | ah, i thought it was something like "I am modelling a kimono I have" |
| 18:35.27 | Chestal | good enough, considering that it was just some gibberish of made-up words :-) |
| 18:35.37 | Grumbler | heh |
| 18:35.39 | menotume | lol ! |
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| 18:36.06 | Grumbler | fun with languages......just need somebody to teach me some more japanese and i would be all set |
| 18:41.33 | menotume | Grumbler< Grumbler はjapenese 話すべきでない |
| 18:42.32 | menotume | ooops, typo: Grumbler は日本語を話すべきでない |
| 18:47.26 | blast007_linux | hmm...this doesn't sound good: "Logical sector size (516 bytes) is not a multiple of the physical sector size." :/ |
| 18:47.45 | Tupone | 516 ? |
| 18:48.00 | blast007_linux | no idea how it got that |
| 18:48.18 | Tupone | in the MBR area ? |
| 18:48.30 | Tupone | s/MBR/partition/ |
| 18:48.41 | blast007_linux | not sure, that's what fsck.vfat reports at the end |
| 18:49.26 | blast007_linux | dmesg reports "FAT: bogus logical sector size 516" |
| 18:50.43 | Tupone | so it seems the FAT ... good luck |
| 18:51.00 | Tupone | you should have a backup off the FAT in some place |
| 18:51.07 | Tupone | s/off/of/ |
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| 18:54.13 | Pimpinella | if you know the correct logical sector size you can edit it manually |
| 18:54.44 | Pimpinella | within a previous made copy of course... |
| 18:57.36 | Pimpinella | while FAT is crap there's one advantage with it, it's quite simple crap |
| 18:57.45 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 18:57.46 | blast007_linux | :) |
| 19:09.18 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/RecordReplay.cxx: more replay info |
| 19:14.41 | Grumbler | menotume< great, what, am i suppose to have utf encoded stuff available.....grumble, grumble |
| 19:15.18 | menotume | if you want to learn japanese, yes :) |
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| 19:17.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/RecordReplay.cxx: display replay start and end times |
| 19:20.44 | TimRiker | ~x en jp what, am i suppose to have utf encoded stuff available.....grumble, grumble |
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| 19:22.29 | TimRiker | xchat uses your default locale setup. if you didn't choose utf8, then you didn't choose correctly. |
| 19:23.12 | Grumbler | could of sworn i did.....hmm, maybe i borked something when i moved to twm |
| 19:23.39 | bz4697 | i have a question about flags |
| 19:24.07 | Grumbler | which ones, swiss, polish, german, eastern kentucky? |
| 19:24.09 | bz4697 | how do u make them appear in certain areas on a map? |
| 19:24.45 | bz4697 | any1? |
| 19:25.16 | Saturos | specify a zone |
| 19:25.24 | bz4697 | how |
| 19:25.32 | Grumbler | http://bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking |
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| 19:25.50 | TimRiker | Grumbler: try "echo $LANG" |
| 19:25.59 | Saturos | http://my.bzflag.org/cgi-bin/man/man2html?5+bzw |
| 19:26.08 | Saturos | And scroll down to "the zone object". |
| 19:28.48 | Grumbler | TimRiker< yep, didnt have it selected |
| 19:29.15 | TimRiker | sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 19:31.45 | Birdie | chestal: i see you noticed how hard cassandra is:) |
| 19:33.13 | Saturos | cassandra is excellent. |
| 19:33.24 | Saturos | but not unbeatable. |
| 19:33.59 | Birdie | if you would play him on dub he would kikc your ass:) |
| 19:34.05 | Saturos | okay |
| 19:34.11 | Saturos | I always play gu like you know. |
| 19:34.14 | Saturos | :) |
| 19:34.16 | Birdie | :) |
| 19:34.19 | Birdie | he is strong on ground |
| 19:34.25 | Saturos | on gu and in hix-1on1s we are almost even |
| 19:34.32 | Birdie | he is at least as good as me(if i'm warmed up and playing well) |
| 19:34.57 | Saturos | Never played against you really. But everything I heard was good. ;) |
| 19:35.09 | Birdie | :) |
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| 19:37.16 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/misc/rrlog.cxx: more header timing info, cleaned up the tab/space mess |
| 19:37.32 | Grumbler | exit |
| 19:37.43 | Bagheera | doh |
| 19:38.24 | Bagheera | ~x en jp testing one two three |
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| 19:38.33 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v orchid] by ChanServ |
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| 19:50.11 | Grumbler | nice undocumented command for xchat /charset |
| 19:50.23 | Grumbler | still not helping but getting there |
| 19:50.45 | RatOmeter | it's not exclusive to xchat |
| 19:53.18 | RatOmeter | and not undocumented |
| 19:54.32 | Grumbler | well, thats what it said on the xchat page |
| 19:55.46 | menotume | Grumbler: it works for me in xchat, out-of-the-box |
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| 19:57.06 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): Don't resolve DNS anytime updating list server |
| 19:57.11 | RatOmeter | I thought xchat had charset as a menu option... been a while, though. |
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| 19:57.27 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v orchid_] by ChanServ |
| 19:57.40 | TimRiker | RatOmeter: it does. when you define a network you can override the default charset. |
| 19:57.41 | Aribeth | hi orchid |
| 19:57.54 | menotume | hellos orchid |
| 19:58.47 | Grumbler | well, the good news is that it looks similar in windows, just blank boxes |
| 19:58.50 | menotume | hmm, my charset is 'system default' |
| 19:58.59 | menotume | so, it;'s the system's fault |
| 19:59.04 | RatOmeter | heh |
| 19:59.30 | RatOmeter | who's fault is it when asphalt is involved, I wonder? |
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| 20:01.44 | Grumbler | i think the deal is, i need the fonts to match.....not sure, but that is the next place.....everything else says I am utf enabled.......... |
| 20:03.05 | bz7701 | how do u input a zone in notepad |
| 20:03.22 | menotume | a zone ? |
| 20:03.23 | Grumbler | grumbler only knows a few words in kanji, so unless you are tell me about a bathroom or an airport, or an emergency exit, i probably wont know the different |
| 20:03.40 | RatOmeter | zone? DNS zone? Smoke free zone? |
| 20:03.45 | menotume | lol, it said: Grumbler should not speak Japanese |
| 20:04.05 | bz7701 | a zone in a map in bzflag |
| 20:05.49 | RatOmeter | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking#head-03efccb49f3ff5f0055a644eae98835dda00b789 |
| 20:05.56 | DTRemenak | Tupone: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?p=42705#42705 |
| 20:06.05 | DTRemenak | any ideas? that's not a very informative error message ;) |
| 20:07.29 | menotume | does b10 require curl 7.14 ? |
| 20:08.03 | DTRemenak | menotume: yeah, and it ships with it |
| 20:08.12 | menotume | ahh, ok :) |
| 20:09.22 | Tupone | menotume: earlier version I tested is 7.13.2 |
| 20:10.16 | menotume | maybe i missed something. as of a few days ago, current code wouldnn't work with 7.13.x |
| 20:10.39 | Tupone | DTRemenak: if he/she run with a couple of debug (-d -d) .. perhaps we can do something :) |
| 20:10.54 | DTRemenak | Tupone: ok...-d is so inconvenient on windows :S |
| 20:11.23 | RatOmeter | is it? I use it but may be too newb to know better |
| 20:11.31 | menotume | me1 is running on windows ? |
| 20:11.45 | DTRemenak | why else would he be using b10? |
| 20:11.58 | menotume | hmm. :) |
| 20:12.07 | DTRemenak | suppose I should write a debug interface so you can specify the number of -d and write directly into a file from the gui |
| 20:12.45 | RatOmeter | Mmmm, change the debug level on the fly? |
| 20:12.47 | Tupone | menotume: I know we have some problem with 7.12.x, It seems 7.14 run smoothly. Checking half an hour with 7.13.2 seems ok to me .. client side |
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| 20:13.09 | DTRemenak | RatOmeter: you bet |
| 20:13.25 | RatOmeter | that sounds useful. |
| 20:13.40 | DTRemenak | last time we discussed it we found only one spot that it could cause problems |
| 20:13.57 | menotume | ahh, when i built cvs about a week ago, it no longer worked. i had to upgrade curl from 7.13.2 to 7.14 |
| 20:14.17 | menotume | maybe something else changed in the client |
| 20:14.35 | Tupone | dunno, from today I'm at 7.13.2 |
| 20:14.41 | menotume | ok :) |
| 20:14.58 | _Manu_ | I tested 7.13.2 too and no problems |
| 20:15.04 | menotume | mine segfaulted when i tried to 'connect' or get list |
| 20:15.06 | _Manu_ | with c-ares |
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| 20:15.31 | menotume | Tegan! |
| 20:15.35 | Birdie | bongiorno tegan |
| 20:15.36 | menotume | try GU now :) |
| 20:15.36 | Tegan | hi menotume |
| 20:15.41 | Tegan | ciao birdie |
| 20:16.56 | Tegan | ~menotume++ |
| 20:17.05 | menotume | lol, thx |
| 20:17.14 | Birdie | something happened on gu? |
| 20:17.26 | menotume | no, just needed a dereg |
| 20:17.35 | Birdie | you could? |
| 20:17.43 | Birdie | i dont have that priv.. |
| 20:17.43 | menotume | nno, i asked gsl |
| 20:17.45 | Birdie | ah |
| 20:17.47 | menotume | no one does |
| 20:17.59 | Birdie | yea i suggested that to send a pm on bzbb or gu |
| 20:18.08 | Birdie | but apperently she got a bunny who did it:) |
| 20:18.13 | menotume | yep :) |
| 20:19.12 | Birdie | boo for gsl for not giving that priv:( |
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| 20:23.14 | srineer|laptop | can someone point me to a good map editor |
| 20:23.32 | DTRemenak | there are no good map editors |
| 20:23.41 | DTRemenak | 'cept maybe vi |
| 20:23.54 | srineer|laptop | ok |
| 20:24.07 | srineer|laptop | can someone point me to an ok map editor |
| 20:24.32 | DTRemenak | depends what you're wanting to do. 1.10-style box and pyramids maps can use bzedit |
| 20:25.08 | DTRemenak | mesh-based maps need a real 3d editor, like wings3d or blender, and a converter to change it into a bzw |
| 20:25.30 | DTRemenak | or you can do it all in notepad or vi or emacs or <insert favorite text editor here> |
| 20:26.55 | srineer|laptop | hmm |
| 20:26.57 | srineer|laptop | ok |
| 20:27.50 | RatOmeter | for what 3D formats are their converters available? |
| 20:27.59 | RatOmeter | their => there |
| 20:28.50 | DTRemenak | Tupone: got his -d -d -d -d log |
| 20:28.53 | DTRemenak | File transfer terminated with error from libcurl 6 : Could not resolve host: bzflag.org (Domain name not found) |
| 20:29.00 | DTRemenak | File transfer terminated with error from libcurl 6 : Could not resolve host: my.BZFlag.org (Domain name not found) |
| 20:29.12 | Tupone | what cares version ? |
| 20:29.34 | DTRemenak | whatever's in the bzflag tree. I built it there and had curl link to the lib. |
| 20:29.54 | DTRemenak | LIBCURL: libcurl/7.14.0 c-ares/1.2.0 |
| 20:30.05 | Tupone | 1.2.0 ? bad |
| 20:30.09 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 20:30.10 | trepan | RatOmeter: WaveFront OBJ is the best one (modeltool), wings3d has a direct bzw exporter |
| 20:30.11 | Tupone | show be 1.2.1 |
| 20:30.15 | DTRemenak | then we need to update the tree |
| 20:30.26 | trepan | RatOmeter: there's also a 3ds converter, but that format blows |
| 20:30.33 | Tupone | Prolly is 1.2.1 and I forget to update the number |
| 20:30.41 | DTRemenak | heh |
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| 20:31.38 | bz8894 | how do u code a zone (for bzflag) in notepad |
| 20:31.49 | RatOmeter | http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/MapMaking#head-03efccb49f3ff5f0055a644eae98835dda00b789 |
| 20:32.02 | RatOmeter | (for bz8894) |
| 20:33.37 | bz8894 | i did that and i still get error in command prompt |
| 20:33.46 | _Manu_ | Tupone, I tested curl 7.13.2 and c-ares 1.2.0 and working fine... |
| 20:34.05 | Tupone | Could he/she test adding to /etc/hosts or whatever is in windows |
| 20:34.46 | RatOmeter | In winders, it's \%systemroot%\system32\drivers\etc |
| 20:35.07 | RatOmeter | ...for whatever dumb reason |
| 20:35.27 | DTRemenak | Tupone: adding what to HOSTS? |
| 20:35.36 | RatOmeter | uh, and the file is still called 'hosts' |
| 20:35.49 | Tupone | my.bzflag.org |
| 20:35.57 | DTRemenak | mkay |
| 20:36.02 | RatOmeter | and it's corresponding IP address, of course |
| 20:36.08 | bz8894 | i still get an error |
| 20:37.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/ (3 files in 3 dirs): resourceGeter -> ResourceGetter, fix spelling and follow naming convention |
| 20:37.34 | Tupone | DTRemenak: your version is working fine to you ? |
| 20:37.38 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 20:37.45 | DTRemenak | also working great for RPG and others |
| 20:37.56 | Tupone | what windows you have? and what does the complainer ? |
| 20:38.04 | Tupone | s/does/have/ |
| 20:38.14 | Tupone | I mean has :) |
| 20:38.45 | Tupone | AFAIK c-ares is getting info from the registry |
| 20:38.56 | RatOmeter | bz8894: what is the error msg? |
| 20:38.57 | Tupone | info about the DNS |
| 20:39.21 | Tupone | could be they changed from version to version |
| 20:39.56 | RatOmeter | I'd think it should ultimately be getting it via the winsock API, no? |
| 20:40.11 | DTRemenak | I have 2k. dunno what me1 has |
| 20:40.16 | Tupone | the nameserver address you mean ? |
| 20:40.22 | RatOmeter | yes |
| 20:40.23 | Tupone | via winsock? |
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| 20:40.59 | Tupone | I should look at the code then. You remember the API name ? |
| 20:41.37 | RatOmeter | uh, well. strictly speaking, I was refering to the process of resolving a name.... gethostbyname |
| 20:41.55 | RatOmeter | and winsock takes care of the dirty work |
| 20:42.24 | Tupone | eheh, remember this is mono-thread, and cannot efford to wait for resolving |
| 20:42.34 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: always dump bzflag version into the debug output |
| 20:42.39 | RatOmeter | oh, yes. did read that somewhere |
| 20:43.07 | RatOmeter | OK, can't think of a non-blocking method via winsock |
| 20:43.44 | Tupone | c-ares is doing that ... :/ and need the windows configuration : |
| 20:44.23 | bz8894 | the error is that the server wont start bad argument "zone" |
| 20:47.22 | Tupone | That depend on what do we have on server. |
| 20:48.11 | Tupone | But the most I worked on that is that sometime DNS lockdown bzflag. It seems to much sensible to signal |
| 20:49.12 | Tupone | ... sorry for my english ... :/ |
| 20:49.47 | bz8894 | a little help |
| 20:49.52 | bz8894 | from any1 |
| 20:50.15 | menotume | is zone an argument? |
| 20:50.22 | Tupone | bz8894: try to use pastebin to put what you have done. Maybe someone will help |
| 20:50.25 | Tupone | ~pastebin |
| 20:50.25 | ibot | i guess pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.ca |
| 20:50.37 | bz8894 | yes |
| 20:50.47 | bz8894 | zone is a bad argument |
| 20:50.54 | menotume | right, so remove it |
| 20:51.02 | bz8894 | i did |
| 20:51.05 | menotume | is that in your main config, or a map ? |
| 20:51.16 | bz8894 | a map |
| 20:51.22 | menotume | ahh |
| 20:51.29 | bz8894 | well |
| 20:52.40 | Grumbler | if its a problem with a map, best to use pastbin, since the problem could be anything from order, to slight syntax mistakes |
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| 20:53.07 | bz8894 | let me start over |
| 20:53.35 | bz8894 | i used the code from the bzflag mapmakingsite and i still get error |
| 20:54.45 | Grumbler | ok, thats nice, but we need to see what you have done, use pastebin |
| 20:55.19 | Grumbler | menotume< added the right fonts, all is well |
| 20:55.29 | menotume | ahhh, goodie :) |
| 20:56.09 | Grumbler | so now it is correct gibberish, instead of gibberish, gibberish |
| 20:57.03 | Grumbler | and in a scary moment, my system sent me an email telling me how to fix it |
| 20:57.50 | menotume | Grumbler< 浴室はどこに空港にあるか。 |
| 21:02.37 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: dump windows version information into the debug log if running on windows |
| 21:05.29 | DTRemenak | Tupone: still want him to run with a modified hosts file? |
| 21:05.56 | RatOmeter | DTR: can he resolve those hosts with ping, etc? |
| 21:06.14 | Tupone | I think if we cannot fix, could be a last resort . better test it |
| 21:06.27 | DTRemenak | RatOmeter: considering we're talking via posts on my.bzflag.org, I would assume he can resolve that, yes ;) |
| 21:07.06 | RatOmeter | ah. the c-ares code does search the HOSTS file, so I'd say it's worth a shot |
| 21:07.11 | Tupone | c-ares is using RegOpenKeyEx(HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE, WIN_NS_NT_KEY, 0, KEY_READ, &hkeyHosts) |
| 21:07.40 | RatOmeter | right, and NT/XP gets that from the HOSTS file |
| 21:07.58 | Tupone | #define WIN_NS_NT_KEY "System\\CurrentControlSet\\Services\\Tcpip\\Parameters" |
| 21:08.21 | Tupone | if that is NT |
| 21:13.41 | RatOmeter | interesting, on my XP box, teh ...\Parameters\NameServer key is blank |
| 21:14.49 | Tupone | I cannot check, and have near zero experience in windows. Better check the c-ares source in the bzflag tree before believing in me |
| 21:15.39 | DTRemenak | RatOmeter: NameServer is also blank here. I assume you have something for DhcpNameServer though? |
| 21:15.47 | RatOmeter | nah, I'm looking at it now. |
| 21:15.57 | RatOmeter | DTR: yes |
| 21:16.27 | RatOmeter | but it looks like c-ares is looking specificall at NameServer. I wonder... |
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| 21:17.00 | RatOmeter | scratch that. I see both in the souce |
| 21:17.02 | RatOmeter | source |
| 21:17.04 | DTRemenak | RatOmeter: considering that mine is blank and it works for me :) |
| 21:19.10 | RatOmeter | hmmm. if debugging is enabled in c-ares, it'll dump the dns hostname to stdout |
| 21:28.54 | RatOmeter | on a tangent, I see an interesting reg key: "RawIPAllowedProtocols" |
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| 21:29.53 | LouMan | hiya |
| 21:31.36 | Saturos | Hi Lou! |
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| 21:38.02 | bryjen | yes, yes it does |
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| 21:38.18 | DTRemenak | like a roller coaster, baby! |
| 21:38.18 | RatOmeter | I guess |
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| 21:41.48 | Tupone | Chestal: I run bzflag with -d -d -d -d and it seems DR is sending message only when I change speed |
| 21:43.36 | RatOmeter | me1 could try setting his DNS server to static (assuming his is set dynamically). might show up in a different reg key that way. |
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| 21:47.57 | Saturos | Hi Jeff! |
| 21:50.49 | Chestal | Tupone: what framerate do you have? |
| 21:51.08 | Tupone | I did a very little windows ... 250 |
| 21:51.26 | Chestal | hmm |
| 21:51.52 | Tupone | I did not check message going out or not, just output of -d -d -d -d |
| 21:54.05 | Chestal | what's the name of the tolerance var again? |
| 21:54.14 | Chestal | can you come to 1vs1.pimpi.org 5155? |
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| 21:54.25 | Tupone | ok |
| 21:54.35 | Tupone | BZDB_POSITIONTOLERANCE |
| 21:54.41 | Tupone | BZDB_ANGLETOLERANCE |
| 21:55.03 | Chestal | yep, jut found it |
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| 22:13.09 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03chestal * 10bzflag/BUGS: DR problem seems to kick in at about 500 or 600 fps (yes, it#s silly to have such a high framerate) |
| 22:17.41 | Tupone | hola ibunny ... can I do you ctcp ? please :) |
| 22:18.07 | ibunny | ack |
| 22:18.14 | ibunny | im reading about engines |
| 22:18.35 | Tupone | what kind of? |
| 22:18.48 | ibunny | uhm |
| 22:18.51 | ibunny | torque |
| 22:18.53 | ibunny | stendhal |
| 22:18.54 | Tupone | fuel, eletric? |
| 22:18.56 | ibunny | bang! |
| 22:18.57 | Tupone | ahh |
| 22:19.00 | ibunny | ehh |
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| 22:19.42 | Tupone | openscenegraph ? |
| 22:20.23 | ibunny | ack you and ur ctcp stuffie tupo |
| 22:20.26 | ibunny | >=( |
| 22:20.57 | Tupone | :-) |
| 22:21.23 | Tupone | did i crash it ? |
| 22:21.28 | ibunny | nope |
| 22:21.31 | ibunny | :D |
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| 22:27.12 | orchid | hi ep , any luck with 2.0? |
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| 22:33.35 | RPG_ | hi |
| 22:34.16 | DTRemenak | hey RPG_ |
| 22:34.23 | RPG_ | hi DTRemenak |
| 22:34.30 | RPG_ | you're just the person I was looking for :) |
| 22:34.38 | DTRemenak | really!? |
| 22:34.43 | RPG_ | uh huh! |
| 22:34.53 | DTRemenak | shouldn't'a said hi then I guess! |
| 22:34.55 | DTRemenak | ;) |
| 22:35.13 | DTRemenak | whatchaneed? |
| 22:35.34 | RPG_ | for the mofo league, we want to make a patch that, when somebody types /reportmatch, it sends the playerlist, the red team wins-losses, and the blue team wins-losses to a URL |
| 22:35.44 | RPG_ | i found where the slash commands are parsed- in commands.cxx |
| 22:36.01 | DTRemenak | do it as a plugin |
| 22:36.02 | RPG_ | i think i'm capable of doing this myself, I just need some heop :) |
| 22:36.15 | DTRemenak | that way you don't need to always be patching the server when you upgrade |
| 22:36.16 | RPG_ | last time I checked Dev-C++ couldn't compile plugins |
| 22:36.18 | menotume | RPG_: consider some kind of authentication, too |
| 22:36.34 | menotume | so, people can't enter false matches :) |
| 22:36.36 | DTRemenak | ah, dev-c++ishness :) |
| 22:36.58 | DTRemenak | why can't it compile plugins? |
| 22:37.06 | RPG_ | menotume, when someone runs /reportmatch on the server, it'll either BZ-mail or e-mail an admin the info. |
| 22:37.21 | RPG_ | i forgot exactly why, something like it needs a special thing at the linking stage |
| 22:37.32 | DTRemenak | probably for the exports |
| 22:37.36 | menotume | ok, that's better than a URL :) |
| 22:37.37 | DTRemenak | meh, anyway |
| 22:38.15 | RPG_ | i'm in BZFS- commands.cxx; what class would I call to get the playerlist? |
| 22:38.24 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 22:38.33 | DTRemenak | you mean to dump out a list of players, or what? |
| 22:38.34 | RPG_ | i got this far: } else if (strncasecmp(message + 1, "reportmatch", 11) == 0) { |
| 22:38.41 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 22:38.44 | RPG_ | sure, i'll take the player dump |
| 22:38.56 | DTRemenak | well, whatcha gonna use it for, that's the question :) |
| 22:39.08 | RPG_ | for an admin to look at who played the match |
| 22:39.14 | RPG_ | so all I need is callsign, e-mail, and score really |
| 22:39.26 | DTRemenak | ok, so you want callsign, email, and score :) |
| 22:39.30 | RPG_ | yep |
| 22:39.39 | menotume | auth status, perhpas |
| 22:39.48 | RPG_ | oh wait; i could be looking this up in the handleplayerlistcmd couldn't i? |
| 22:39.54 | RPG_ | actually, only league people can enter the server |
| 22:40.00 | menotume | ahh, good |
| 22:40.03 | menotume | ctf ? |
| 22:40.05 | RPG_ | FFA |
| 22:40.09 | RPG_ | no wait; CTF |
| 22:40.10 | menotume | k |
| 22:40.16 | menotume | need team scores |
| 22:40.19 | RPG_ | that also |
| 22:40.32 | DTRemenak | k, you want a loop |
| 22:40.41 | DTRemenak | something like |
| 22:40.43 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:40.54 | menotume | look in ScoreBpardRenderer.cxx |
| 22:40.59 | DTRemenak | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.44 | DTRemenak | probably want a GameKeeper::Player *data; somewhere too |
| 22:41.59 | DTRemenak | then do stuff with the Player object to get your info |
| 22:42.24 | RPG_ | then where's the team score info? |
| 22:42.36 | menotume | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.48 | RPG_ | k |
| 22:42.53 | RPG_ | that's in BZFS? |
| 22:42.56 | RPG_ | a renderer? |
| 22:43.24 | menotume | ohhhh |
| 22:43.26 | RPG_ | i'm under the impression that data in BZFlag is found in different places in BZFS |
| 22:43.28 | menotume | sry :((( |
| 22:43.51 | menotume | similar, but different - ignore me :) |
| 22:43.57 | DTRemenak | team scores are in team[i] |
| 22:44.04 | DTRemenak | err team[i].team |
| 22:44.18 | DTRemenak | where i is from RedTeam to PurpleTeam |
| 22:44.33 | RPG_ | i is an interger? |
| 22:44.40 | DTRemenak | yeah |
| 22:44.45 | RPG_ | what # is blue? |
| 22:44.47 | DTRemenak | those are TeamInfo globals |
| 22:45.32 | DTRemenak | look at enum TeamColor in global.h |
| 22:45.45 | DTRemenak | iirc blue is 3 |
| 22:45.52 | DTRemenak | but you can just use BlueTeam |
| 22:46.01 | RPG_ | yep it is 3 |
| 22:46.03 | DTRemenak | predefined constants are good |
| 22:46.34 | DTRemenak | for (int i = RedTeam; i <= PurpleTeam; ++i) should get you all of them |
| 22:46.45 | RPG_ | i only need red and blue though |
| 22:46.53 | DTRemenak | so just use RedTeam and BlueTeam :) |
| 22:47.16 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.19 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 22:48.41 | RPG_ | now the script has all the info; i'd like it to access http://a-delusion.com/matchreports.php?players=player1.email:player2.email&red=1-2:-1&blue=2-1:1 |
| 22:48.51 | RPG_ | matchreports.php doesn't exist yet |
| 22:49.06 | RPG_ | basically how do i make use of cURL |
| 22:49.17 | RPG_ | i'm editing a 2.0.2 version of BZFS |
| 22:49.21 | RPG_ | not CVS |
| 22:49.47 | DTRemenak | uuuhhhm |
| 22:49.52 | DTRemenak | dunno in 2.0.2 :) |
| 22:49.56 | Pimpinella | i had 2 independent reports of client segfaults on my servers lately |
| 22:50.07 | DTRemenak | Pimpinella: client version? |
| 22:50.13 | Pimpinella | 202 |
| 22:50.22 | DTRemenak | cool |
| 22:50.29 | DTRemenak | I mean... |
| 22:50.36 | Pimpinella | which seemed to occurr only on my servers |
| 22:51.14 | DTRemenak | hm |
| 22:51.16 | RPG_ | 1 more thign... what function is used to make the server say stuff? |
| 22:52.08 | Pimpinella | handleSayCommand(...) |
| 22:52.17 | Pimpinella | in commands.cxx |
| 22:52.31 | Pimpinella | or what do you mean? |
| 22:52.45 | RPG_ | like i want the server to say "match reported" |
| 22:52.56 | blast007 | think maybe sendMessage() |
| 22:53.03 | blast007 | there should be some in commands.cxx |
| 22:53.40 | Pimpinella | sensMessage is in bzfs.cxx |
| 22:54.23 | Pimpinella | void sendMessage(int playerIndex, PlayerId dstPlayer, const char *message) |
| 22:54.42 | RPG_ | except I want it to be a global message |
| 22:54.45 | RPG_ | sendMessage does PM's |
| 22:55.03 | Pimpinella | sendMessage( ServerPlayer, AllPlayers, "blah") |
| 22:55.10 | RPG_ | or this... sendMessage(ServerPlayer, AllPlayers, messageText.c_str() + messageStart ); |
| 22:58.32 | menotume | RPG_: cool! so, i just put that url in my browser to reposrt a mtahc then ? :) |
| 22:59.22 | Pimpinella | i thought about autoreporting using http GET too |
| 22:59.46 | menotume | ya, i would at least add a unqiue id, server config |
| 22:59.59 | Pimpinella | didn't do it finally, because it's too buggy |
| 23:00.50 | blast007 | you could lock down access to the specific IP of the server |
| 23:00.58 | menotume | ahh, or have reportmatch.php check the ip it's coming from |
| 23:01.02 | menotume | :) |
| 23:01.02 | Pimpinella | curl can also use ssl, not the way bzfs uses it until now though |
| 23:01.08 | menotume | beat me to it |
| 23:01.11 | blast007 | :) |
| 23:01.36 | blast007 | lol |
| 23:01.36 | menotume | welll ... |
| 23:02.16 | Pimpinella | it'd need additional work to make bzfs use ssl |
| 23:02.32 | Pimpinella | curl+ssl |
| 23:02.43 | Pimpinella | and TimRiker will hate it |
| 23:05.07 | Pimpinella | htaccess might do the trick, but it's still not safe unless used with ssl |
| 23:05.33 | RPG_ | anyone know how to access URLs with 2.0.2 BZFS? |
| 23:05.41 | RPG_ | its compilling righ tnow |
| 23:05.55 | RPG_ | just to see what data I have |
| 23:06.41 | Pimpinella | look where bzfs adds to the listserver |
| 23:06.52 | Pimpinella | not sure where it was actually |
| 23:07.07 | Pimpinella | curlHandler might be a good starting point |
| 23:07.24 | RPG_ | hey it compiled! |
| 23:07.28 | RPG_ | brb; gotta test |
| 23:08.45 | Tupone | curlManager :) |
| 23:09.00 | Pimpinella | yep, thats it |
| 23:09.06 | Tupone | well cURLManager |
| 23:09.42 | Pimpinella | Tupone is cURL man anyway, thought you were already sleeping |
| 23:09.56 | Pimpinella | should have called for you |
| 23:10.12 | RPG_ | YIPEE! |
| 23:10.16 | RPG_ | part I works |
| 23:10.44 | Pimpinella | what ya planning to do? |
| 23:10.56 | RPG_ | reporting a match |
| 23:12.26 | RPG_ | i'll just see how MOTD does it |
| 23:14.26 | orchid | ../binutils-2.15.94.0.2.2/configure --prefix=/tools --disable-nls --enable-shared --with-lib-path=/tools/lib |
| 23:14.35 | orchid | oops, sry |
| 23:14.42 | blast007 | :) |
| 23:15.07 | blast007 | I almost did something like that today, and it was even on the wrong screen/computer |
| 23:15.30 | RPG_ | looks like getURL does it |
| 23:15.44 | RPG_ | URLManager::getURL(const std::string& URL, std::string &data) |
| 23:26.45 | RPG_ | DTRemenak |
| 23:26.54 | DTRemenak | ! |
| 23:26.59 | RPG_ | i hate that noise |
| 23:27.07 | DTRemenak | what noise |
| 23:27.18 | RPG_ | the noise the program makes when your name is called |
| 23:27.32 | DTRemenak | your program makes noise when my name is called? |
| 23:27.43 | DTRemenak | eeek, stalker |
| 23:27.45 | RPG_ | no, it makes noise when my naeme is called |
| 23:27.46 | RPG_ | lol |
| 23:27.52 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 23:28.02 | blast007 | hehe |
| 23:28.12 | RPG_ | seeing that I don't know much about those pointer things in C++, I think we (the mofo league) may have to ask somebody else to do this :) |
| 23:28.35 | RPG_ | DTRemenak |
| 23:28.43 | RPG_ | RPG_ |
| 23:28.54 | DTRemenak | "these pointer things"? :) |
| 23:29.01 | RPG_ | data * |
| 23:29.06 | RPG_ | i mean *data |
| 23:29.15 | DTRemenak | pointers are easy. if you want to use the address, use "var". if you want the data from it, use "*var" :) |
| 23:29.44 | RPG_ | well... ok... I have data. "data = GameKeeper::Player::getPlayerByIndex(i);" |
| 23:29.49 | DTRemenak | ok |
| 23:29.58 | RPG_ | what i need from data is a callsign and an e-mail address |
| 23:30.00 | orchid | DTRemenak: never begin a sentence with "pointers are easy" |
| 23:30.07 | DTRemenak | data is a pointer to a class. refer to its members with data->member |
| 23:30.31 | DTRemenak | orchid: bbbbut pointers _are_ easy! |
| 23:30.46 | RPG_ | like this: callsign = data->getCallSign(); |
| 23:30.47 | blast007 | RPG_: also know, that the cURLManager has changed in CVS, so this won't work as-is if you upgrade to a newer version |
| 23:30.51 | DTRemenak | RPG_: yup |
| 23:30.57 | RPG_ | crap |
| 23:31.05 | blast007 | there's no getURL :) |
| 23:31.09 | RPG_ | crap |
| 23:31.54 | blast007 | you did |
| 23:31.59 | RPG_ | to me? |
| 23:32.46 | DTRemenak | "that way you don't need to always be patching the server when you upgrade" |
| 23:32.57 | DTRemenak | internal interfaces always change |
| 23:33.11 | RPG_ | i'd just be happy if I could get something to work :) |
| 23:33.19 | DTRemenak | patches for version n don't usually apply to n+1 |
| 23:33.32 | DTRemenak | heh :) |
| 23:33.38 | DTRemenak | well, whatcha stuck on now? |
| 23:33.49 | RPG_ | finding out what function gives me the player's callsign |
| 23:33.57 | RPG_ | or what pointer does |
| 23:34.04 | RPG_ | data->getCallSign(); |
| 23:34.15 | RPG_ | o wait... even before that |
| 23:34.26 | RPG_ | :( how to make the variable callsign :) |
| 23:34.29 | RPG_ | :( |
| 23:34.47 | DTRemenak | use a std::string if you don't like pointers |
| 23:34.56 | RPG_ | aha! it's std::string! |
| 23:34.58 | DTRemenak | std::string callsign = data->getCallSign(); will work |
| 23:35.01 | RPG_ | i thought it was std::str |
| 23:35.05 | RPG_ | no WONDER why |
| 23:35.05 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 23:35.50 | RPG_ | but class GameKeeper::Player has no member named 'getCallSign' |
| 23:36.41 | RPG_ | hold that thought; dinner |
| 23:37.54 | DTRemenak | GameKeeper::Player has a public member struct player which contains the callsign among other things |
| 23:38.08 | blast007 | GameKeeper::Player *playerData = GameKeeper::Player::getPlayerByIndex(i); |
| 23:38.12 | blast007 | playerData->player.getCallSign() |
| 23:38.46 | DTRemenak | yeah, or just use his code :) |
| 23:39.44 | blast007 | I'm working on some better cheat detection for height detection with/without wings :) |
| 23:41.10 | DTRemenak | make sure it works with negative gravity ;) |
| 23:41.29 | DTRemenak | j/k |
| 23:41.31 | blast007 | hehe |
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| 23:42.07 | blast007 | working on a new function in FlagHistory that pulls out the last n flag for a player |
| 23:42.39 | blast007 | returns a FlagType, so we can see if they had Wings last |
| 23:43.07 | DTRemenak | ah, cool |
| 23:44.57 | RPG_ | holy crap |
| 23:45.17 | RPG_ | i pressed a button and it showed me all the functions I could use with data->player |
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| 23:47.02 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 23:53.32 | blast007 | oh crud, I bet that's why VS.NET is acting weird... |
| 23:53.37 | blast007 | think I have the same project open under another session |
| 23:55.12 | DTRemenak | heh |
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