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| 00:27.33 | Tupone | dihcro ih |
| 00:28.18 | trepan | alleb oaic |
| 00:28.35 | Tupone | :) |
| 00:28.39 | Tupone | oop |
| 00:28.40 | Tupone | (: |
| 00:29.14 | orchid | :) |
| 01:17.14 | CIA-13 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/GameKeeper.cxx: sizeof of an array seems to report the size of the pointer :( |
| 01:33.05 | CIA-13 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/ (bzfs/GameKeeper.cxx common/global.cxx): Disable Acceleration test at all, when negative, and set default to -1 |
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| 01:44.10 | Detox | is there a beginner place? |
| 01:44.35 | Detox | I really dont know wht or how to play and i get killled before i figure out what to do |
| 01:44.53 | JeffM2501 | there arn't really any beginer servers |
| 01:45.06 | JeffM2501 | trial by fire |
| 01:45.27 | Detox | that is the prob.... fires burn before I can figure out comamnd |
| 01:45.52 | JeffM2501 | servers with lower player counts will be less harsh |
| 01:46.01 | Detox | how do i find them? |
| 01:46.10 | JeffM2501 | the servers are sorted by number of players |
| 01:46.14 | JeffM2501 | top = most |
| 01:46.18 | JeffM2501 | bottom = least |
| 01:46.21 | Detox | ok |
| 01:46.26 | JeffM2501 | so go down the list to find one that only has a few players |
| 01:46.31 | Detox | can you tell me basic commands? |
| 01:46.40 | Detox | is it mouse or keyboard to move? |
| 01:46.41 | JeffM2501 | drive with the mouse, shoot with the button :) |
| 01:47.00 | JeffM2501 | kill anyone who isn't your color |
| 01:47.07 | JeffM2501 | unless you are black |
| 01:47.10 | Detox | what color? |
| 01:47.14 | JeffM2501 | then kill every one |
| 01:47.17 | JeffM2501 | your tank has a color |
| 01:47.25 | Detox | and how do i knw what i am? |
| 01:47.26 | JeffM2501 | the color of your hud box is your color |
| 01:47.32 | Detox | hud box? |
| 01:47.39 | JeffM2501 | and when you join it will say "you have joined the RED team" or what ever color |
| 01:47.50 | JeffM2501 | the box in the middle of the screen |
| 01:47.53 | JeffM2501 | that you shoot thru |
| 01:47.54 | Detox | ok |
| 01:47.56 | JeffM2501 | it has a color |
| 01:47.59 | JeffM2501 | that IS your team color |
| 01:48.13 | JeffM2501 | so if you are red, don't shoot other reds |
| 01:48.27 | Detox | so then just move the mouse and it will muve you? |
| 01:48.42 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:48.45 | JeffM2501 | up for forwared |
| 01:48.50 | JeffM2501 | down for backwards |
| 01:48.52 | Detox | ok and whre do i go? |
| 01:48.53 | JeffM2501 | left for left |
| 01:48.57 | JeffM2501 | nowhere really |
| 01:49.00 | JeffM2501 | just kill other players |
| 01:49.06 | Detox | the point is to get flags? |
| 01:49.16 | JeffM2501 | depends on the game type |
| 01:49.19 | JeffM2501 | there are 3 |
| 01:49.21 | blast007 | there is a lovely help menu in-game that tells you specifics about the game |
| 01:49.24 | JeffM2501 | FFA means just kill others |
| 01:49.33 | JeffM2501 | the flags give you powers |
| 01:49.47 | JeffM2501 | CTF you are suposed to get the other teams flag and bring it back |
| 01:49.56 | JeffM2501 | in rabbit, you run like mad and don't get shot :) |
| 01:50.07 | Detox | ok,, will try again |
| 01:50.08 | Detox | thanks |
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| 02:02.08 | Ice_Wewe | hey JeffM2501, has the bug been fixed? |
| 02:02.21 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501, Just wondering, not trying to pester |
| 02:03.38 | Ice_Wewe | brb |
| 02:04.01 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 02:04.17 | JeffM2501 | dude I fixed it like 38 seconds after I told you the problem |
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| 04:26.23 | jomojo | is it -admsg that allows you to post a message every 15 minutes? |
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| 04:35.59 | trepan | bzfs -help | grep admsg: -admsg: specify a <msg> which will be broadcast every 15 minutes |
| 04:56.49 | trepan | jomojo: you can also use string substitutions in the -srvmsg and -admsg's |
| 04:57.07 | jomojo | yeah i figured it out |
| 04:57.30 | jomojo | the reason why i couldn't get it to work was conflicting -admsg on other maps |
| 04:57.31 | trepan | ex: -admsg "\{_wingsJumpCount}" for bzdb var values |
| 04:57.51 | trepan | or "\(uptime)" |
| 04:57.58 | jomojo | thanks trepan |
| 04:58.49 | jomojo | yeah it turns out that i don't have privs on those files either to change.. I am guessing silverfox forgot to give them to me |
| 04:59.23 | trepan | too bad it isn't a bzdb var itself in that case ;) |
| 04:59.37 | trepan | although that could get messy |
| 05:00.42 | trepan | jomojo: could also just get the DNS entry from Riker... |
| 05:01.22 | jomojo | right menotume was handling that.. I don't know what happened there |
| 05:01.36 | trepan | not too much from the looks of it ;) |
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| 06:57.51 | scanlime | heh |
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| 07:13.31 | ibunny | and morning. |
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| 11:27.51 | Tupone | mmu_man: http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/archives/2005/08/#e2005-08-11T21_02_34.txt |
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| 11:28.39 | mmu_man | yep :p |
| 11:28.54 | Tupone | :) |
| 11:38.00 | menotume | Tupone: pong |
| 11:38.04 | menotume | :) |
| 11:38.05 | Tupone | aww |
| 11:38.10 | Tupone | late pong |
| 11:38.14 | menotume | lag :) |
| 11:38.21 | Tupone | join alfredo.tupone.dyndns.org |
| 11:38.30 | menotume | port ? |
| 11:39.44 | _Manu_ | default port := |
| 11:41.18 | Pimpinella | hmm, i should save the 1vs1 final matches before is_computer_on_fire() != something else... |
| 11:41.58 | Pimpinella | some other value i mean... |
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| 12:16.49 | menotume | Tupone: is a good start ! |
| 12:16.55 | menotume | can you send me a patch ? |
| 12:17.18 | Tupone | it is already in CVS. I just need to commit my last changes |
| 12:17.23 | menotume | ahhhh |
| 12:17.31 | menotume | i hope the deafult is set high :) |
| 12:17.43 | Tupone | default is not enabled |
| 12:18.02 | menotume | if it works well, i can add settings for warn/kick |
| 12:18.06 | Birdie | so an admin can "limit" it |
| 12:18.23 | trepan | bzfs -a ? |
| 12:19.04 | menotume | whoa! what's wrong with cvs? it's FAST ! |
| 12:19.23 | Tupone | what is -a ? |
| 12:19.38 | trepan | Tupone: rtfm ;) |
| 12:19.40 | menotume | velocity rotation |
| 12:19.47 | Tupone | :) |
| 12:20.02 | Tupone | sry, doing commit |
| 12:20.18 | trepan | -a: maximum acceleration settings |
| 12:20.25 | trepan | (as you wsa busy and all) |
| 12:20.31 | menotume | so, may have to adjust if velocity is not default ? |
| 12:20.49 | CIA-13 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (GameKeeper.cxx bzfs.cxx): Acc test not enabled when player is dead |
| 12:20.54 | Tupone | lemme look a -a then :) |
| 12:21.36 | trepan | if you limit acceleration enough, the effect of mouse travel time is lessened |
| 12:21.52 | Birdie | ~meacan++ |
| 12:22.35 | Tupone | menotume: why not trying the -a option. It should be better |
| 12:22.39 | _Manu_ | Tupone, remember the things now working allways as expected.. I also noticed it when implemented anti-turnfastcheat.. using values sent by the client |
| 12:22.49 | _Manu_ | I mean not working as expected |
| 12:23.27 | _Manu_ | when I got higher values that allowed with no hacked clients too |
| 12:23.44 | _Manu_ | because some calcules are computer-speed sensitives |
| 12:23.48 | menotume | -a sets the tank speed, right? not a speed check ? |
| 12:23.59 | trepan | _Manu_: linear and angular accl |
| 12:24.13 | _Manu_ | angular one |
| 12:24.18 | _Manu_ | for turning |
| 12:24.30 | Tupone | rejoin my server |
| 12:24.43 | trepan | man bzfs: -a velocity rotation (both) |
| 12:25.41 | Tupone | my server is on with -a 800 800 |
| 12:26.06 | _Manu_ | yes, but in theory you never can get a higher value than specified.. but in reallity you get it |
| 12:26.30 | Chestal | is -advertise supported by list server yet? |
| 12:26.50 | trepan | _Manu_: jitter? |
| 12:27.22 | _Manu_ | no jitter.. I checked it in 1.10 when I implemented true speed checks.. and turn speed anticheat |
| 12:27.22 | trepan | you calculating accels from vels in packets? |
| 12:27.25 | Chestal | I think it's a problem of floating point accuracy |
| 12:27.54 | Chestal | IIRC the position update / collision code calcs new pos, then 'backcalcs' required speed or something like this |
| 12:28.01 | _Manu_ | for speed.. I calculating using pos and oldpos in an elapsed time |
| 12:28.14 | _Manu_ | and for angular.. only using values reported by client in packets |
| 12:28.38 | trepan | speed is then susceptible to jitter |
| 12:28.44 | Chestal | manpage on -a: "The units are somewhat arbitrary", hmm :-) |
| 12:28.46 | _Manu_ | and was running fine in viper for long (1.10 version I mean) |
| 12:28.49 | trepan | how much was the raw angvel over-valued? |
| 12:29.09 | _Manu_ | trepan, I used true time.. not the reported by the client |
| 12:29.31 | trepan | true-time being the time as measured by the server? |
| 12:29.37 | Chestal | it used to be that normal clients could reach speed values of up to 2% over the allowed value for these reasons |
| 12:29.48 | _Manu_ | I checked boths.. packets time mark and time in server |
| 12:29.54 | _Manu_ | and two working fine |
| 12:29.58 | Chestal | I coudl imagine that these values coudl be even higher under certain circumstances |
| 12:30.03 | Chestal | very high frame rates maybe |
| 12:30.08 | _Manu_ | Chestal, you are true |
| 12:30.25 | Chestal | see also the problem with dead reckoning for extremely high fps |
| 12:30.33 | _Manu_ | I watched problems with Macs |
| 12:30.49 | _Manu_ | some mac users got kicked wrongly.. but really they were getting higgher speeds |
| 12:31.10 | _Manu_ | but not because a hacked client.. because the mac |
| 12:31.32 | _Manu_ | and in pc arch only watched when using slow machines or cheaps graphic cards |
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| 14:10.27 | brad2901` | Is it not possible to kick or ghost bzadmin? |
| 14:13.17 | meacan | afaik bzadmin is just another client - like bzflag clients. So you should be able to do the same with bzadmin as you can with bzflag clients |
| 14:14.33 | brad2901` | A GU admin tried to kick my bzadmin client. I got the message that I was kicked but I remained connected to the server. |
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| 15:24.32 | slugkilla | hello |
| 15:24.42 | blast007 | hi |
| 15:25.00 | slugkilla | once again i have a zone question |
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| 15:25.49 | slugkilla | can i make it so a flag only respawns in one zone |
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| 15:27.33 | blast007 | this shows the items that can be in a zone object: http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzw.5s |
| 15:27.51 | blast007 | it's about half way down the page |
| 15:28.42 | slugkilla | ahh thanks |
| 15:29.12 | slugkilla | the good and bad thing, if i put GM in front of bad, whould gm not spaw there? |
| 15:29.53 | blast007 | good means that good flags can spawn there, and bad means that bad flags can spawn there |
| 15:29.59 | slugkilla | ohh |
| 15:30.07 | slugkilla | hmm |
| 15:30.19 | blast007 | I'm not sure how it works exactly |
| 15:30.23 | slugkilla | oh ok |
| 15:30.26 | blast007 | it might be like putting +f good |
| 15:30.30 | slugkilla | thanks |
| 15:30.37 | blast007 | :) |
| 15:30.55 | slugkilla | but um, how do i limit gm to 10 shots |
| 15:32.10 | blast007 | you can add this to your config: -sl GM 10 |
| 15:32.20 | blast007 | sl = shot limit |
| 15:32.47 | slugkilla | thanks |
| 15:35.46 | slugkilla | one last thing, how can i have flagas spawn on building? |
| 15:37.11 | blast007 | -fb |
| 15:40.06 | slugkilla | ahh |
| 15:41.48 | slugkilla | thanks |
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| 16:09.35 | ruskie | http://freshmeat.net/projects/gns/ <-- hmmm |
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| 17:09.32 | menotume | ~Tupone++ |
| 17:09.50 | menotume | ~trepan++ :) |
| 17:09.54 | Tupone | actually is trepan that suggested |
| 17:09.57 | Tupone | yeah |
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| 17:19.50 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Are you the author of guu? |
| 17:21.04 | JeffM2501 | author? |
| 17:21.13 | JeffM2501 | no I did not write supybot |
| 17:21.20 | JeffM2501 | I run guu/thelastspartan |
| 17:21.24 | blast007 | ToughShooter: http://supybot.com/ |
| 17:21.49 | JeffM2501 | TheLastSpartan is atualy older code, needs to be upgraded |
| 17:23.34 | ToughShooter | There's a bug with the weather ...0AM gets displayed as 12AM |
| 17:31.56 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure it has many bugs |
| 17:32.04 | JeffM2501 | #supybot |
| 17:33.38 | ToughShooter | k, tnx |
| 17:36.20 | JeffM2501 | they will probably tell you that I just need to upgrade |
| 17:36.51 | JeffM2501 | then I will make statements like "bahh", and "over my dead body" |
| 17:37.02 | JeffM2501 | then I'll probalby just do it one day when I'm boored. |
| 17:43.01 | blast007 | hehe |
| 17:44.05 | JeffM2501 | TheLastSpartan, version |
| 17:44.06 | TheLastSpartan | JeffM2501: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.80.0pre2. The newest version available online is 0.83.0rc3. |
| 17:44.23 | JeffM2501 | wow I'm behind |
| 17:44.33 | JeffM2501 | maybe when 83 isn't a RC anymore |
| 17:44.45 | JeffM2501 | upgrading is a pain in the ass |
| 17:44.53 | ToughShooter | heh |
| 17:45.10 | JeffM2501 | wonder how far they are from 1.0 |
| 17:45.35 | ToughShooter | That reminds me when I upgrated my OS and being unable to use pyBzEdit any more |
| 17:45.55 | JeffM2501 | you probably lost yoru python |
| 17:46.57 | ToughShooter | one package needs a different python version than the other and that seems to cause problems :/ |
| 17:47.13 | JeffM2501 | what OS? |
| 17:47.18 | ToughShooter | but that's OT I guess |
| 17:47.55 | ToughShooter | I'm running Mac OS X version 10.4.2 |
| 17:48.11 | JeffM2501 | yeah python packages are "fun" under OSX |
| 17:48.18 | JeffM2501 | apple keeps changing stuff |
| 17:48.29 | JeffM2501 | making it more like leenox |
| 17:48.54 | JeffM2501 | and no radiant for you all ether, it's sad :( |
| 17:48.55 | ToughShooter | nicest thing is that gcc-4 causes bugs in SDL which make BZFlag crash |
| 17:49.07 | JeffM2501 | you don't have to build with GCC4 |
| 17:49.10 | JeffM2501 | change to old gcc |
| 17:49.17 | JeffM2501 | that's what I'm doing |
| 17:49.19 | JeffM2501 | 3.whatever |
| 17:49.31 | ToughShooter | I haven't figured out how to, that's on my to-do list |
| 17:49.40 | JeffM2501 | ohh it's a little command line thing |
| 17:49.45 | JeffM2501 | like setgcc or something |
| 17:52.11 | ToughShooter | Well, the configuration file looks somewhat cryptic and not very documented |
| 17:52.30 | JeffM2501 | it wasn't a confg thing |
| 17:52.43 | JeffM2501 | it was a simple thing you did on the system that changed the default compiler |
| 17:52.46 | JeffM2501 | I'm looking now |
| 17:53.37 | JeffM2501 | sudo gcc_select 3.3 |
| 17:53.48 | JeffM2501 | that will change you to 3.3 as your default |
| 17:59.34 | ToughShooter | ~JeffM2501 |
| 17:59.34 | ibot | methinks jeffm2501 is bzbb god |
| 17:59.39 | ToughShooter | ~JeffM2501++ |
| 18:03.09 | JeffM2501 | I hold no sway over the will of men |
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| 18:04.39 | blast007 | http://www.apress.com/promo/fractal/ |
| 18:05.58 | ToughShooter | No Haskell :( |
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| 18:23.20 | bz4071 | Hello |
| 18:24.17 | bz4071 | anyone here? |
| 18:24.23 | meacan | yes |
| 18:24.26 | Tupone | someone |
| 18:25.03 | bz4071 | do you know what I have to do to play bzflag? |
| 18:25.24 | blast007 | what have you done so far? |
| 18:25.43 | blast007 | downloaded and installed the client? |
| 18:25.50 | bz4071 | nothing,I don't know which one to download |
| 18:26.00 | blast007 | are you on windows? |
| 18:26.08 | bz4071 | yes xp |
| 18:26.46 | JeffM2501 | http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=3248&package_id=3832&release_id=313812 |
| 18:27.03 | JeffM2501 | you want the 2.0.2 win32 |
| 18:27.04 | blast007 | hehe, jeff beat me to it |
| 18:27.18 | JeffM2501 | that is a full installer for windows |
| 18:27.23 | JeffM2501 | it'll get you what you need |
| 18:27.26 | bz4071 | I guess the latest version |
| 18:27.35 | JeffM2501 | that is the last release version yes |
| 18:27.45 | JeffM2501 | we are working on a 2.0.4, but it is not done yet |
| 18:27.59 | JeffM2501 | there are some beta versions but they are not "official" |
| 18:28.27 | JeffM2501 | this is the last beta |
| 18:28.28 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4791 |
| 18:28.44 | JeffM2501 | use that one at your own risk |
| 18:29.04 | *** join/#bzflag CBG (n=CBG@cpc2-stme1-5-1-cust173.cdif.cable.ntl.com) |
| 18:29.16 | bz4071 | well what one is the safest to run? |
| 18:29.52 | blast007 | you could install them both |
| 18:30.02 | JeffM2501 | 2.0.2 |
| 18:30.07 | JeffM2501 | it' will work for you just fine |
| 18:30.37 | bz4071 | is that the first one you gave me? |
| 18:30.58 | JeffM2501 | yes it is |
| 18:31.08 | bz4071 | ok thanx a lot |
| 18:31.20 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 18:31.22 | JeffM2501 | have fun |
| 18:31.31 | bz4071 | ty |
| 18:34.27 | JeffM2501 | why does the super smash brothers music sound soo good when played by a full orchestra? |
| 18:34.49 | CBG | JeffM2501: because it's on of the greatest tunes ever? |
| 18:35.02 | JeffM2501 | I doubt that |
| 18:35.08 | JeffM2501 | it sounds really good |
| 18:35.16 | JeffM2501 | if you like orchestral music |
| 18:35.24 | CBG | It sounds really good, period. |
| 18:36.52 | JeffM2501 | find it kinda amazing that you can DL them for free too |
| 18:36.57 | CBG | JeffM2501: http://www.ebaumsworld.com/nintendoacapella.html |
| 18:37.44 | JeffM2501 | that's old |
| 18:37.53 | CBG | But, a classic. :P |
| 18:38.02 | JeffM2501 | http://www.classicgaming.com/vgtunes/ |
| 18:40.03 | CBG | oh, http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view.php?id=25555 |
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| 18:54.18 | meacan | Im trying to update the danish translation but a comments says that "Messages below cannot be translated!" (eg: "grabbed Quick Turn flag") - is this still true? |
| 18:55.34 | meacan | w |
| 18:55.37 | meacan | oops |
| 19:04.56 | *** part/#bzflag Ice_Wewe (n=wili_@ppp-216-106-101-229.storm.ca) |
| 19:05.26 | *** join/#bzflag Crash_Dummy (n=wili_@ppp-216-106-101-229.storm.ca) |
| 19:05.33 | Crash_Dummy | can someone help me? |
| 19:06.11 | Crash_Dummy | I tried to register Crash Dummy, and I forgot that my Yahoo! account had expired, by the time I got it reactivated I think the comfirmation email bounced |
| 19:06.34 | CBG | JeffM2501 could if he wasnt away "Summoning.............."... |
| 19:07.53 | Crash_Dummy | ok, I'll come back later |
| 19:07.55 | *** part/#bzflag Crash_Dummy (n=wili_@ppp-216-106-101-229.storm.ca) |
| 19:10.59 | *** join/#bzflag Ice_Wewe (n=Ice_Wewe@ppp-216-106-101-229.storm.ca) |
| 19:11.25 | Ice_Wewe | hey all |
| 19:11.31 | Ice_Wewe | just went to get a snack |
| 19:11.38 | Ice_Wewe | darn, forgot my drink, brb |
| 19:12.54 | CBG | lol ice_wewe |
| 19:14.50 | Ice_Wewe | CBG, whats so funny? |
| 19:15.15 | Ice_Wewe | wheres Jeff, I gotta talk to him about a problem player |
| 19:15.35 | CBG | Jeff's away "Summoning.............."... |
| 19:15.44 | Ice_Wewe | oh ok |
| 19:16.05 | Ice_Wewe | well Summon me when he gets back, I'm gonna get back to playing... |
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| 19:38.05 | JeffM2501 | CBG, elementals you summon, not dragons, dragons come of there own volition. |
| 19:38.20 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, ? |
| 19:38.25 | CBG | You have me confused with someone else... |
| 19:38.42 | JeffM2501 | I do |
| 19:38.43 | JeffM2501 | sorry |
| 19:38.54 | JeffM2501 | it's all those damned 3 letter names |
| 19:39.08 | CBG | damned? |
| 19:39.12 | JeffM2501 | damned |
| 19:39.21 | *** join/#bzflag gina (n=gigi@49.58-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 19:41.37 | JeffM2501 | what was Ice_Wewe talking about? did he need me? |
| 19:44.31 | Tupone | hey gina |
| 19:44.39 | blast007 | "wheres Jeff, I gotta talk to him about a problem player" |
| 19:44.45 | gina | ciao tupone, comeva |
| 19:44.50 | blast007 | that's about as specific as he got |
| 19:44.58 | Tupone | bene :) |
| 19:45.03 | gina | :) |
| 19:45.12 | JeffM2501 | wierdness |
| 19:48.02 | jpa_ | gina \o/ |
| 19:48.49 | gina | jpa_ --O-- |
| 19:49.15 | jpa_ | :( |
| 19:49.50 | gina | it was a friendly hug, jpa :) |
| 19:49.56 | gina | "come in my arms" |
| 19:49.58 | jpa_ | hmm |
| 19:50.13 | jpa_ | it looked like "i'll fly away, you're ugly" |
| 19:50.18 | gina | lllllllllool |
| 19:50.34 | gina | I'm way to drunk to see that |
| 19:51.02 | jpa_ | alcohol is no good.. |
| 19:51.19 | JeffM2501 | CBG, if you see the crash dummy guy, just tell him to rereg his account. |
| 19:55.27 | CBG | Yes, Sir. |
| 19:55.35 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 19:55.38 | JeffM2501 | just if you see him |
| 19:55.45 | JeffM2501 | you seem to see a lot of people and want to help |
| 19:56.11 | CBG | haha! |
| 19:56.17 | CBG | JeffM2501 needs glasses. |
| 19:56.34 | *** join/#bzflag _Manu_ (n=Julio@98.Red-80-36-59.pooles.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:56.55 | JeffM2501 | you are allways pointing out stuff on the boards and posting answers to questions |
| 19:57.09 | JeffM2501 | so it seems to me you like to help, or at least talk to people |
| 19:58.00 | JeffM2501 | whatever, in the end it works out as the same thing |
| 19:59.32 | gina | huh |
| 20:00.09 | CBG | gina is a girls name.... >:) |
| 20:00.54 | gina | huhuhuh |
| 20:01.24 | CBG | and, how old are you? |
| 20:01.49 | gina | just a bit older:( |
| 20:01.54 | gina | bit much |
| 20:02.07 | BearPerson | what do you do to "hack" an IP? use "ifconfig"? ;-) |
| 20:02.11 | JeffM2501 | I think you 2 would make a good couple |
| 20:02.19 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
| 20:02.23 | CBG | JeffM2501: ;) |
| 20:06.56 | Ice_Wewe | CBG, you can, its approx though |
| 20:07.13 | CBG | Ice_wewe, oh, cool. ;) |
| 20:08.11 | Ice_Wewe | gina: 4676 Admiralty Way, Suite 330 |
| 20:08.34 | Ice_Wewe | IANA |
| 20:08.44 | gina | awwwwwwwwww |
| 20:08.49 | CBG | haha |
| 20:08.58 | Ice_Wewe | CBG, you mainly find out where their ISP is located |
| 20:09.05 | Ice_Wewe | gina: california |
| 20:09.15 | gina | my hacked ISP is in belgium |
| 20:09.36 | Ice_Wewe | I'm sure, the one you logged in from is in California |
| 20:10.11 | gina | sh*t |
| 20:10.58 | Ice_Wewe | OrgName: Storm Internet Services |
| 20:11.01 | Ice_Wewe | thats me |
| 20:11.16 | Ice_Wewe | Address: 350 Sparks suite 203 |
| 20:11.38 | Ice_Wewe | haha |
| 20:11.46 | Ice_Wewe | where in California? |
| 20:12.44 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, what did you need? |
| 20:13.48 | Ice_Wewe | oh, there was a problem player, we finally got enough people to ban him, was wondering if you could help, and put him on the global ban list |
| 20:13.56 | *** join/#bzflag Pimpi (n=frank@p54819DBF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:14.08 | Ice_Wewe | hey gina... http://maps.google.com/maps?q=4676+Admiralty+Way+90292+California&spn=0.005113,0.007869&t=k&hl=en |
| 20:14.10 | JeffM2501 | who is it? |
| 20:14.17 | Ice_Wewe | Crash Dummy |
| 20:14.22 | JeffM2501 | what has he done? |
| 20:14.38 | Ice_Wewe | he was telling everyone that they sucked c*ck |
| 20:14.40 | JeffM2501 | I have not heard any complaints from the normal server ops about him before? |
| 20:14.47 | gina | lol Ice_Wewe |
| 20:14.50 | JeffM2501 | was he baned from your server? |
| 20:15.04 | JeffM2501 | and is he static or dynamic? |
| 20:15.14 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501, I don't have a server, all the players on pieinthe sky thought he was pretty annoying though |
| 20:15.24 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501, I don't know |
| 20:15.27 | JeffM2501 | did the admins of pieinthesky ban him? |
| 20:15.34 | JeffM2501 | and has he been on other servers? |
| 20:15.39 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501, no, the users did, I filed a report thoigh |
| 20:15.42 | Ice_Wewe | though* |
| 20:15.49 | JeffM2501 | has he been on other servers? |
| 20:16.01 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501 don't know, let me check |
| 20:16.26 | JeffM2501 | it does not sound like a masterban class offense, sounds like a job for local enforcement |
| 20:16.45 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: http://my.bzflag.org/playersearch.php?callsign=Crash+Dummy |
| 20:16.57 | JeffM2501 | people are going to say others suck any number of various things on servers, that does not mean we masterban them all |
| 20:17.17 | JeffM2501 | whopty do |
| 20:17.19 | JeffM2501 | one server |
| 20:17.22 | *** join/#bzflag brad2901 (i=brad@unaffiliated/brad2901) |
| 20:17.29 | JeffM2501 | masterban is not a place for trivial bans |
| 20:17.42 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501, he was on pieinthesky |
| 20:17.43 | CBG | Sure it is.. |
| 20:17.45 | JeffM2501 | it is a place for people who cause network wide problems, and traditional methods do not work |
| 20:17.59 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, deal with it with that server owner. |
| 20:18.17 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501, ok I will |
| 20:18.26 | Ice_Wewe | gina, still feeling sick? |
| 20:18.29 | JeffM2501 | I have not heard complaints from our major servers, SP, gu, etc.... |
| 20:18.39 | JeffM2501 | that's where we start to get masterban |
| 20:18.42 | gina | ohhh yes |
| 20:18.49 | CBG | hepcat... :x |
| 20:18.55 | JeffM2501 | hepcat is dead |
| 20:19.09 | JeffM2501 | for your server, step 1 is to go global auth. |
| 20:19.10 | gina | what about ducati ????? |
| 20:19.15 | gina | where is that been? |
| 20:19.16 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 20:19.48 | Ice_Wewe | gina, what is the url? |
| 20:20.02 | gina | of? |
| 20:20.16 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501, hepcat is hardly dead, they changed the name from hepcat to silvercat |
| 20:20.26 | Ice_Wewe | gina, the ducati server |
| 20:20.43 | CBG | ducati is still there, afaik, just people play ducati on the dub server now... |
| 20:20.48 | gina | my question is, where is the ducati.bzflag.org server gone ? |
| 20:20.50 | gina | ahhh |
| 20:20.56 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, silvercat is a difrent server, |
| 20:21.04 | JeffM2501 | it is done in the hepcat style sure |
| 20:21.08 | JeffM2501 | but it is not the same server |
| 20:21.18 | Tupone | gina: ducati has gone |
| 20:21.23 | gina | awww |
| 20:21.27 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501, if you look at the admin/cop list it is __the same__ as hepcat |
| 20:21.29 | JeffM2501 | but the idea is the large ones |
| 20:21.32 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501, go and check |
| 20:21.34 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, I'm sure it is, |
| 20:21.36 | CBG | JeffM2501: there are a lot of similarities... |
| 20:21.49 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, like I say in the same style, and yes it was made to be a replacement |
| 20:21.52 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501, I mean like to the character! |
| 20:21.57 | JeffM2501 | but it itself is a difrent server, with a difrent owner. |
| 20:22.05 | JeffM2501 | Ice_Wewe, and your point is....? |
| 20:22.18 | Ice_Wewe | JeffM2501: the same people are running it |
| 20:22.26 | JeffM2501 | cosmos is NOT running it |
| 20:22.26 | trepan | bzflag-dev@sf spam, nice |
| 20:22.40 | JeffM2501 | it has many of the same admins sure |
| 20:22.43 | Tupone | another spam ? |
| 20:22.44 | JeffM2501 | and the same group layouts |
| 20:22.44 | *** join/#bzflag brad2901 (i=brad@ACD430BF.ipt.aol.com) |
| 20:22.52 | JeffM2501 | like I say it took over, but it is a difrent server |
| 20:23.01 | CBG | This silvercat v hepcat is not exactly an important issue... :) |
| 20:23.03 | JeffM2501 | the old helpcat groups were removed, new silvercat groups wer made |
| 20:23.08 | JeffM2501 | exactly CBG |
| 20:23.21 | CBG | They just made silvercat as a hepcat replacement, therefor it is very similar. :) thats all. |
| 20:23.24 | JeffM2501 | but the point is, just cus you had an asshat on a server dosn't mean it's masterban time. |
| 20:23.38 | JeffM2501 | there is no "number of people" that automgicly gets somone on masterban |
| 20:24.04 | jpa_ | brad2901: would you go and kiss CBG for me? |
| 20:24.04 | JeffM2501 | if you are going with a masterban, then you'd better have a ton of server owners, and evedence, and a static IP for the guy. |
| 20:24.18 | CBG | eugh, not brad. |
| 20:24.25 | JeffM2501 | and you'd better own a server youself :) |
| 20:24.26 | Ice_Wewe | lol |
| 20:24.30 | ToughShooter | if everyone gets masterbanned instantly how long would the list be? |
| 20:24.44 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, 4 lines |
| 20:24.53 | JeffM2501 | *.*.*.* |
| 20:24.59 | CBG | ah, but how long are the lines? :P |
| 20:25.09 | ToughShooter | It wouldn't be easily maintainable and every ban takes the risk of banning others |
| 20:25.09 | JeffM2501 | depends on the reason |
| 20:25.22 | JeffM2501 | yeah we don't do ban ranges in materban |
| 20:25.23 | JeffM2501 | ever |
| 20:25.28 | JeffM2501 | it has to be a single IP |
| 20:25.29 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: That question was directed to CBG |
| 20:25.44 | JeffM2501 | ToughShooter, I'm just leting Ice_Wewe know that we don't do ranges. |
| 20:26.01 | CBG | ToughShooter: why me? :S |
| 20:26.58 | ToughShooter | CBG: Silvercat has to stabilize its usage yet, it's not like hepcat |
| 20:27.28 | JeffM2501 | who's footing the bill for it? |
| 20:27.44 | CBG | ToughShooter: thats an entirely separate issue... :S |
| 20:29.17 | TimRiker | ~nslookup silvercat.bzflag.org |
| 20:29.24 | TimRiker | hmm. |
| 20:29.37 | CBG | is it not silvercat or jomojo? |
| 20:29.43 | CBG | they seem to be running it, mostly. |
| 20:32.09 | JeffM2501 | what kind of connection do they have? |
| 20:32.13 | TimRiker | ~nslookup silvercat.bzflag.org |
| 20:32.22 | TimRiker | ah. better. |
| 20:32.37 | CBG | JeffM2501: you could join #silvercat ;) |
| 20:32.44 | JeffM2501 | or you could just tell me |
| 20:32.54 | CBG | if i knew.... |
| 20:34.00 | CBG | :) |
| 20:34.05 | TimRiker | I got a vague email from a Andreas Termansen about a ban that I think he's saying is for knjiga.ffos.hr |
| 20:34.18 | TimRiker | ~nslookup knjiga.ffos.hr |
| 20:34.35 | TimRiker | ~bzfquery knjiga.ffos.hr:5155 |
| 20:34.37 | ToughShooter | It is silverfox, IIRC |
| 20:34.57 | TimRiker | don't know who the contact is for that server. anyone know? |
| 20:35.09 | TimRiker | ToughShooter: what that to me? |
| 20:35.20 | ToughShooter | No, to Jeff |
| 20:35.30 | TimRiker | k |
| 20:35.42 | CIA-13 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ (6 files in 3 dirs): Acceleration check does not work good. Better use ./bzfs -a for that |
| 20:36.11 | brad2901 | TimRiker: kmirok seems to be the server owner |
| 20:36.37 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, in general we don't get involved in personal server ban issues |
| 20:36.45 | *** part/#bzflag gina (n=gigi@49.58-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 20:37.36 | Pimpi | CBG: ducati is actually dead |
| 20:37.47 | Chestal | yes |
| 20:37.50 | TimRiker | JeffM2501: nod, it's just not clear from the email if there is a global ban involved or not. |
| 20:37.55 | CBG | Pimpi: ducati is a game style, played now on the dub server. :P |
| 20:37.55 | Chestal | I am working with TLZ on a new serevr, though |
| 20:38.33 | Pimpi | CBG: ducati was a server run by Chestal , so listen to him ;) |
| 20:38.52 | CBG | Pimpi: Yeah, ok. :P |
| 20:39.02 | Tupone | Chestal: I dismissed the acc check. Seems -a work for the purpose |
| 20:39.22 | Chestal | Tupone: are there -a cheat checks in bzfs? |
| 20:39.28 | Tupone | nope |
| 20:39.45 | Chestal | I wonder whether the bots respect -a |
| 20:40.01 | Tupone | but the purpose was to avoid people getting so much acceleration in some way |
| 20:40.13 | Tupone | I think they respect, the code is shared |
| 20:40.34 | Tupone | We just define the wanted speed |
| 20:40.47 | Tupone | then shared code move the bots |
| 20:41.37 | CBG | time to stop talking and to start doing. :) |
| 20:41.40 | CBG | cya later all |
| 20:46.57 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, I haven't masterbaned anyone in a good long while |
| 20:47.17 | JeffM2501 | there was an update for a user who changed IPs, but that was about it |
| 20:47.32 | JeffM2501 | after I tried to talk to him about geting unbaned |
| 20:47.46 | JeffM2501 | good old callofhonor |
| 20:48.43 | JeffM2501 | there have been a couple board bans, mostly for generic spamming and inaproprate posts |
| 20:49.42 | JeffM2501 | pondering doing a mod that will use the "user can post private messages" checkbox to controll real posting too. then we can let users who just can't post appropriately, still use global auth |
| 20:50.05 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, I wish that there wasn't any rason to ban people :( |
| 20:50.16 | JeffM2501 | then life would be easy |
| 20:50.38 | JeffM2501 | TimRiker, how did the move go? |
| 20:51.17 | TimRiker | ok. starting to recover. might get back to normal in time for my wife to give birth. |
| 20:51.27 | JeffM2501 | cool, congrats :) |
| 20:51.34 | JeffM2501 | now what company did you move too? |
| 20:51.50 | JeffM2501 | it wasn't that one that made that little tiny linux server they talked about on /. was it? |
| 20:52.07 | JeffM2501 | I read that article and thought "that is so riker" |
| 20:52.09 | trepan | Chestal/Tupone: just checked, bots are accel limited (use LocalPlayer::doUpdate()) |
| 20:52.32 | Tupone | trepan: ty |
| 20:54.04 | Chestal | good |
| 20:54.35 | JeffM2501 | oh TimRiker, what is your feeling on making the windows builds optimised for P2 or better? |
| 20:54.59 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501, know anyone that runs on less? |
| 20:55.05 | JeffM2501 | not really |
| 20:55.19 | JeffM2501 | and I can dupe the config and keep around a blended build |
| 20:55.28 | JeffM2501 | so if somone did complain, we could bust em out a blend build |
| 20:55.44 | JeffM2501 | I know some who have run them, but it's allways be as just a joke or something |
| 20:55.52 | Tupone | optimized means it can run on lower |
| 20:55.53 | DTRemenak | I don't think anyone will notice, let alone complain |
| 20:56.07 | JeffM2501 | nor do I |
| 20:56.18 | DTRemenak | yeah, you gonna notice that it went from 5.1 seconds per frame to 5.4 seconds per frame? |
| 20:56.21 | JeffM2501 | I'll set it up and we can do the next beta as /G5 and see how it runs |
| 20:56.37 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, heh |
| 20:56.59 | JeffM2501 | I'd love to do /G7 but that's a bit harsh |
| 20:57.04 | JeffM2501 | P3 or better |
| 20:57.21 | DTRemenak | yeah, I know people who run on p2/k6 |
| 20:57.42 | DTRemenak | p2 with a decent graphics card is more than capable of keeping up with bz |
| 20:57.53 | JeffM2501 | not that I'll ever see the optimisation |
| 20:57.58 | JeffM2501 | I run debug all the time |
| 20:58.08 | DTRemenak | yup, here too |
| 20:59.45 | JeffM2501 | it just caught my eye when I was in there they other day |
| 21:00.33 | DTRemenak | at one point I ran bz on a p-100 with a tnt2 but that was a bit of a...wierd...setup |
| 21:00.56 | JeffM2501 | and you probably built that yourself |
| 21:01.01 | DTRemenak | yup |
| 21:01.19 | DTRemenak | overclocked fsb to 100mhz too, it was quite a snappy system |
| 21:01.44 | DTRemenak | 100mhz p-1, fsb, sdram, agp timing. |
| 21:01.55 | JeffM2501 | shouold have OCed the PCI too |
| 21:02.12 | DTRemenak | it probably was, I think it was locked at fsb/2 |
| 21:02.26 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:02.34 | DTRemenak | it ran quite well |
| 21:03.07 | DTRemenak | kind of a motley assortment of parts though :) |
| 21:03.50 | DTRemenak | heh, actually I ran tribes2 on it too, so bz wasn't the most demanding thing :) |
| 21:05.08 | DTRemenak | "requires a p2-400" ... or not |
| 21:06.20 | DTRemenak | that was the system I used to demonstrate to people that bus speed makes a bigger difference than core speed :) |
| 21:07.54 | JeffM2501 | ohh yeah bus is king |
| 21:08.15 | JeffM2501 | that's why I'm ok with just a XP 3k here, because it's 200fsb |
| 21:12.37 | Tupone | poor orchid. She got a virus. /ctcp orchid version gives mIRC Windows 95 |
| 21:14.25 | _Manu_ | a flower virus? :) |
| 21:15.29 | orchid | mIRC rules! |
| 21:15.49 | Pimpi | there you are :) |
| 21:15.59 | orchid | oh hi Pimpi |
| 21:16.04 | Pimpi | didn't even gave me a chance to answer ;)= |
| 21:16.28 | orchid | sry, my bzbreaks are less than 5 mins now :) |
| 21:16.37 | Pimpi | :/ |
| 21:17.57 | orchid | Pimpi: can anyone start a match on 59998? |
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| 21:21.02 | slugkilla | any one know if there is a bzfed rpm? source give me probalems on FC4 |
| 21:22.45 | JeffM2501 | we don't make that package, you'd have to ask the authors |
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| 21:23.05 | slugkilla | oh ok |
| 21:23.10 | slugkilla | thanks anyway |
| 21:23.14 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 21:23.23 | trepan | prett quick for a slug |
| 21:23.47 | JeffM2501 | cus ya know an RPM will fix all problems in the source |
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| 21:24.33 | trepan | then again, it's ambiguous, he could also be salt |
| 21:24.56 | JeffM2501 | salt can be rather fast |
| 21:25.06 | JeffM2501 | when droped |
| 21:25.11 | JeffM2501 | maybe he was put in water |
| 21:25.14 | JeffM2501 | and salinated |
| 21:26.10 | trepan | either way, better irc skills then the usual webchat dropin |
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| 21:59.58 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03dennismp * 10bzflag/data/l10n/bzflag_da.po: Danish translation updated |
| 22:03.18 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/plugins/killall/ (6 files): add /killall |
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| 22:28.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/RecordReplay.cxx: |
| 22:28.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - "/record stop" now flushes the buffer |
| 22:28.43 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: - better filename reporting (for record and replay) |
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| 22:35.21 | CBG | JeffM2501: ping |
| 22:37.53 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 22:42.47 | trepan | in some countries, they shoot folks for that level of rudeness |
| 22:42.56 | CBG | what? |
| 22:46.01 | JeffM2501 | ping sans question |
| 22:46.08 | JeffM2501 | a ping is when you think somone isn't here |
| 22:46.11 | JeffM2501 | and want a repply |
| 22:46.38 | CBG | "sans"? :( |
| 22:46.41 | JeffM2501 | sans |
| 22:46.57 | JeffM2501 | and you call yourself a member of the UK |
| 22:47.02 | JeffM2501 | TheLastSpartan, dict sans |
| 22:47.04 | TheLastSpartan | JeffM2501: gcide: Sans \Sans\ (s[aum]n; E. s[a^]nz), prep. [F., from L. sine without.] Without; deprived or destitute of. Rarely used as an English word. "Sans fail." --Chaucer. [1913 Webster] Sans teeth, sans eyes, sans taste, sans everything. --Shak. [1913 Webster] |
| 22:47.35 | CBG | "Rarely used as an English word." |
| 22:47.52 | CBG | So, you say I should have asked my question whilst I pinged? |
| 22:48.06 | trepan | ex: sans commonsense, sans courtesy, sans wit |
| 22:48.07 | JeffM2501 | before |
| 22:48.11 | CBG | lol. |
| 22:48.19 | JeffM2501 | premature ping |
| 22:48.36 | CBG | I don't call myself a member of the UK, the UK includes England, so I always just say I;m from Wales. :) |
| 22:49.06 | JeffM2501 | is it not your government? |
| 22:49.15 | trepan | hey CBG, got an easy question for ya |
| 22:49.23 | CBG | Don't start on politics, jeff. |
| 22:49.34 | CBG | trepan: No. I won;t help you. |
| 22:49.39 | CBG | Look it up, google it, just don;t ask me! |
| 22:49.41 | CBG | :) |
| 22:50.43 | trepan | heh, like i'd ask questions for which the answers are readily available |
| 22:51.39 | JeffM2501 | CBG, you are the one that is picking the nit |
| 22:53.42 | CBG | Yeah. :) |
| 22:53.42 | CBG | if its about me, I posted about my whole life on my blog. :) |
| 22:53.42 | CBG | And anything else I know is probably readily available in my local library or on the net. |
| 22:53.43 | CBG | I don;t have nits! |
| 22:53.45 | CBG | Damnit, I keep missing the ' key in the dark. '''. Got it. :) |
| 22:57.00 | CBG | lol Pimpi |
| 22:57.54 | Pimpi | never knew it's also used in english |
| 23:00.02 | Pimpi | trepan /record stop didn't flush the buffer before? |
| 23:00.38 | trepan | nope, except in your mod'ed version ;) |
| 23:01.12 | Pimpi | always thought it just called Record::stop() |
| 23:01.24 | Pimpi | which flushes |
| 23:01.34 | trepan | Record::stop() didn't flush before |
| 23:01.59 | Pimpi | hmmmmmmmmmm |
| 23:02.18 | Pimpi | in the version i have here stop calls kill |
| 23:02.21 | Pimpi | even before |
| 23:02.44 | Pimpi | maybe it's part of the changes you did for the 1vs1 thing? |
| 23:03.05 | trepan | ya, a.k.a. your "mod'ed" version |
| 23:03.13 | Pimpi | ic |
| 23:03.49 | trepan | i initially set it up to permit gapped recordings, dunno why, probably a mood thang |
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| 23:35.27 | RememberPOL | how |
| 23:35.31 | RememberPOL | do I play? |
| 23:39.21 | Twingy | press the play button |
| 23:41.49 | RememberPOL | (18:40:47) ned_flanders: [tab] to jump, [enter] to shoot, standard left, right, up, down, arrows |
| 23:41.51 | RememberPOL | Heh |
| 23:41.58 | JeffM2501 | use the mouse |
| 23:42.01 | JeffM2501 | drive around |
| 23:42.05 | JeffM2501 | shoot peole not your color |
| 23:44.24 | JeffM2501 | and don't get shot |
| 23:45.14 | RememberPOL | How do I enter play mode when is a server rather than an observer? |
| 23:48.52 | JeffM2501 | when you join the game ( the place where you put your name ) and set your team to "automatic" |
| 23:49.41 | Tupone | if server is full sometime you can just observ the game |
| 23:52.29 | RememberPOL | Er ok |
| 23:52.34 | RememberPOL | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:58.10 | JeffM2501 | automatic will allways try to put you in the game |