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| 00:49.28 | JeffM2501 | not here |
| 00:50.06 | JeffM2501 | then a wonderfull respec mission |
| 00:50.09 | JeffM2501 | oh the joy |
| 00:50.14 | JeffM2501 | the randure |
| 00:50.19 | JeffM2501 | the wonton distruction |
| 00:51.46 | bryjen | ~dict wonton |
| 00:51.56 | bryjen | ~dict 1 wonton |
| 00:52.06 | bryjen | ~dict wanton |
| 00:52.30 | bryjen | although he was hungry too |
| 00:52.31 | CBG | Chinese dumpling HAHA. |
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| 01:29.16 | longhair | Hello. Question- if you want to pause the countdown during a timed match, I was under the impression that you use: /countdown pause, but when I use it on my server, it only restarts the countdown. Am I missing something? Server version: 2.0.2.20050318 |
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| 01:59.15 | fant | hi all |
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| 02:06.03 | Gnurdux | i installed libgnome2-dev but i still get menus.h:4:19: gnome.h: No such file or directory while compiling bzfed |
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| 03:48.19 | guru | anyone here up for a game or two of bzflag? |
| 03:48.41 | guru | i'm about half drunk so it shouldn't be too difficult of a match ;) |
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| 09:49.39 | meacan | how should be "diff" command look like if i want to submit a patch? is cvs diff >patch enough? |
| 09:51.08 | Tupone | cvs diff -u is better |
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| 09:58.54 | CBG | bzbb amins: spam at http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4884 |
| 10:00.36 | meacan | there is another spam from same guy: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/search.php?search_author=libertarian |
| 10:01.52 | CBG | Well spotted meacan. |
| 10:02.27 | Birdie | its always the same guy, why dont you just ban and delete him? |
| 10:03.05 | Birdie | or her |
| 10:03.31 | meacan | or bot :) |
| 10:03.37 | Birdie | :) |
| 10:03.43 | CBG | Leave the she-male alone, guys. |
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| 11:03.25 | creeperz | woah |
| 11:03.29 | creeperz | http://www.thermaltake.com/coolers/volcano/rs/a1745.htm |
| 11:03.57 | creeperz | not the thing to buy if you like quiet |
| 11:04.12 | creeperz | its like a vacumm cleaner inside of your skull |
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| 11:47.03 | BearPerson | "48 dBA at 5500 RPM"... not bad |
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| 13:12.46 | menotume | It's official, the green bots are better than red bots .... http://meno.zapto.org/bzcaps/bots.png |
| 13:14.05 | ruskie | erm? |
| 13:14.30 | menotume | i saw a trend yesterday, then let it run overnight |
| 13:14.44 | ruskie | holy shit |
| 13:14.56 | menotume | odd, huh ? |
| 13:15.32 | ruskie | well I'm guessing the N extra human green players with the positive scores do add a bit.. :) |
| 13:15.40 | menotume | perhaps human players were mostly green |
| 13:15.47 | menotume | right :) |
| 13:21.27 | Chestal | menotume: there are 8 red and 7 green bots |
| 13:21.45 | Chestal | and when I was just playing, one human red player had been idling for ages |
| 13:22.01 | Chestal | at least I managed to capture once still :-) |
| 13:22.45 | menotume | hehe :) |
| 13:23.15 | menotume | i can't believe how many players are using it |
| 13:23.32 | menotume | i wanted to go to DUB, but I don't have the heart to take it down :) |
| 13:23.55 | menotume | You know what's REALLY fun? Join as 'bot15' and start talking to people :) |
| 13:24.17 | Chestal | hmm :-) |
| 13:27.35 | jpa_ | menotume: it is because green isn't visible on grass :) |
| 13:27.44 | menotume | :) |
| 13:28.30 | Chestal | you could maybe only start 14 bots, so both teams would be even |
| 13:28.42 | menotume | yes |
| 13:28.58 | menotume | I'll run it again tonight |
| 13:29.14 | menotume | i have to limit the human players, bots don't take bandwidth of course |
| 13:29.23 | Chestal | even with only a few bots, I sometimes saw a huge differnce in performance. Just randomness I assume because they all run the same code, but I didn#t expect such a big spread |
| 13:29.51 | menotume | maybe i'll run private - with only bots, just for grins |
| 13:30.20 | Chestal | a ROger mgiht be more interesting because they try to do flags |
| 13:30.44 | Chestal | although last time I tired it, the behaviour was a bit erratic |
| 13:31.13 | menotume | yes. roger seems to like to go for his own flag |
| 13:32.30 | Chestal | menotume: not sure you ansered yesterday, maybe I missed it: do you know, whether -advertise is supported by the list server? |
| 13:33.58 | menotume | yes, i do know |
| 13:35.29 | menotume | muahwahawaha |
| 13:35.49 | menotume | Chestal: no, it is not. I sent the code to Tim quite some time ago. |
| 13:36.25 | menotume | I am going to try to set it up in a subdir (like m.b.o/db/test) |
| 13:36.51 | Chestal | to hide it from everyone, I could just use a non-existing group name? |
| 13:36.52 | menotume | it will use the same db, so private servers sould start using it |
| 13:37.09 | menotume | correct, i would suggest: "-advertise none" |
| 13:37.41 | menotume | or, even: -advertise DUCATI.admingroupname |
| 13:45.55 | trepan | for the windows folks: just added src/obstacle/Triangulate.cxx and .h |
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| 14:31.02 | menotume | hi longhair |
| 14:31.38 | longhair | hi meno |
| 14:32.00 | longhair | ever figure out that /countdown pause business? |
| 14:32.03 | menotume | longhair: can u funmatch in about 10 minutes ? |
| 14:32.12 | menotume | no, i didn't look at that yet |
| 14:32.28 | longhair | sounds like fun, but my wife and I are going somewhere soon, bummer |
| 14:32.45 | longhair | I asked here yesterday, but no dice |
| 14:33.10 | menotume | okies |
| 14:33.26 | menotume | it's not in the changelog as to when pause/resume were implemented |
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| 14:33.48 | menotume | anyone know when /coundown pause & continue were implemented ? |
| 14:34.02 | longhair | I'm thinking that it works on DUB 59998, but not on proxs, right? |
| 14:34.10 | menotume | right |
| 14:34.39 | longhair | next time I'm there, I'll do a version request, and see if they match |
| 14:34.50 | trepan | menotume: date: 2005/03/23 00:14:57; author: pimpinella |
| 14:35.04 | menotume | ahhh, thanks ! |
| 14:35.13 | trepan | tip: cvs log commands.cxx | search for pause |
| 14:35.26 | menotume | that was my next question :) thanks ! |
| 14:35.46 | longhair | ah, right, my version is from the 18th |
| 14:36.03 | menotume | it would be the server version, longhair |
| 14:36.09 | menotume | i'll check proxs in a minute |
| 14:36.47 | longhair | ok |
| 14:40.12 | meacan | i tested the countdown pause/resume yesterdya, it works fine with cvs |
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| 14:41.44 | menotume | meacan: yes, but on proxs, /countdown pasue restarts the countdown |
| 14:41.53 | menotume | we found that out during a match :) |
| 14:42.16 | longhair | yes, that was a bit surprizing |
| 14:42.27 | meacan | using enchanged time, eh? :) |
| 14:42.36 | meacan | enhanced* |
| 14:42.57 | meacan | menotume: btw how is linodes? |
| 14:43.42 | menotume | heh, proxs is from 3/19 - 4 days before the change - that explains it |
| 14:43.45 | menotume | linodes is good |
| 14:44.00 | menotume | i dropped my account there a while back - i never used it |
| 14:44.16 | meacan | ah ok |
| 14:44.27 | menotume | but, it's very good, if you can spend a little time setting it up |
| 14:44.31 | meacan | my money for my current provider dosnt seem to arrive at my account :( |
| 14:44.42 | menotume | it does NOT do bzfs well though |
| 14:45.27 | menotume | you mean, they don'tget your payments ? |
| 14:45.47 | meacan | nope |
| 14:45.54 | menotume | hmmm |
| 14:46.22 | meacan | you guy products after you insert money to you account. currently its -15EUR but i know there is at least 80EUR waiting |
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| 14:49.24 | meacan | menotume: got time to connect to a test-server on my host? |
| 14:49.39 | menotume | sure |
| 14:49.47 | meacan | menotume: dahlia.d75.net:5154 |
| 14:50.45 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: FYI: Crash Dummy = The Punisher (if you know him) |
| 14:51.01 | blast007_linux | ah, him... |
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| 15:00.28 | meacan | menotume: i've downloaded ducati-config, so no more defaultsetup :) |
| 15:00.40 | menotume | hehe |
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| 15:13.19 | meacan | hehe, server complains about possible udp flood from a DK and US ip :) |
| 15:14.22 | Chestal | any opinions on http://www.home.unix-ag.org/thilo/files/servercolors.png ? |
| 15:14.37 | Chestal | it's a first try to use color to represent different server styles |
| 15:18.43 | Chestal | many shots add red |
| 15:19.06 | Chestal | and it's probably FFA, the CTF ones are blueish |
| 15:19.21 | Chestal | and with jumping, otherwise it would be red, not yellowish |
| 15:24.20 | meacan | nice idea, but i'm worried that people cant decode the colors, so it just looks like a colorpalette to them. One thing that would be nice (concerning colors) is that empty(0-1 players) server were greyed out |
| 15:24.56 | meacan | but it could be that people learns to recognize that they prefer green-type of servers :) |
| 15:25.33 | Chestal | yes, it's not really useful for detectign the exact style |
| 15:25.41 | Chestal | but it might work to see which servers are similar |
| 15:25.58 | Chestal | just toying around with it, could also use color to indicate other things, not sure yet |
| 15:25.59 | menotume | how about color-coding by country ? |
| 15:26.01 | menotume | :) |
| 15:26.16 | meacan | or lag |
| 15:26.26 | menotume | a little whois work, and voila, color-sorted by lag |
| 15:26.31 | Chestal | lag info is not available as is, though |
| 15:26.41 | menotume | just kidding :) |
| 15:26.43 | meacan | nah, but it would be nice :) |
| 15:26.54 | Chestal | remember score from last time when playing on this server and use that :-) |
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| 15:36.24 | saskuash | tem algum server rolando |
| 15:43.16 | saskuash | ibot server ? |
| 15:43.16 | ibot | server is, like, to run your own BZFlag server, please read the wiki page: http://bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer |
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| 15:49.01 | saskuash | it has some server rolling |
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| 16:24.00 | blast007_linux | CBG: well that's no good :( |
| 16:24.15 | CBG | ah, nvm, somehow I fixed it. |
| 16:24.23 | blast007_linux | hehe, ok |
| 16:24.44 | CBG | :D the only change i made was commenting out the -public line :/ |
| 16:25.22 | blast007_linux | does it work if you uncomment it? |
| 16:26.00 | CBG | No. Lemme try with publicaddr too. |
| 16:26.51 | CBG | No.. :/ |
| 16:28.01 | CBG | Tried to fetch URL: http://my.BZFlag.org:81/db/ |
| 16:28.01 | CBG | CURLOPT_URL is : http://my.BZFlag.org:81/db/ |
| 16:28.02 | CBG | Queuing ADD message to list server |
| 16:28.02 | CBG | * About to connect() to my.BZFlag.org:81 |
| 16:28.02 | CBG | Bus error |
| 16:28.14 | CBG | That's the unusual stuff in the terminal output. |
| 16:28.18 | blast007_linux | probably curl causing the issue |
| 16:28.46 | CBG | So, it's just me? |
| 16:30.35 | blast007_linux | don't know, I don't have OS X ;) |
| 16:31.07 | CBG | Well, atleast you don't have that colourful clown suit for DOS. :) |
| 16:31.10 | JeffM2501 | bus error? |
| 16:31.20 | CBG | JeffM2501: so it says... |
| 16:31.39 | JeffM2501 | that's not good |
| 16:31.46 | CBG | so I gathered... :( |
| 16:31.58 | JeffM2501 | when did this start hapening? |
| 16:31.59 | CBG | perhaps i should update my CVS, its kinda old now. |
| 16:32.04 | CBG | JeffM2501: just now... |
| 16:32.14 | JeffM2501 | what did you change from when it worked before? |
| 16:32.16 | CBG | I haven't run bzfs for a while. |
| 16:32.23 | CBG | I'm using a bradn new conf. |
| 16:32.29 | CBG | *brand |
| 16:32.39 | JeffM2501 | same curl? |
| 16:32.45 | CBG | Yup, should be. |
| 16:32.55 | JeffM2501 | should or is? |
| 16:33.18 | CBG | Is, unless someone else has been on this machine and changed it. :) |
| 16:33.26 | JeffM2501 | you know that more then I do |
| 16:33.29 | JeffM2501 | should or is? |
| 16:33.39 | CBG | I'll say is. |
| 16:33.51 | JeffM2501 | so then you are also using newer code? |
| 16:33.58 | JeffM2501 | or did you just only change the config? |
| 16:34.02 | CBG | But there is always the little chance that a ninja came into my room and messed it up last night. |
| 16:34.13 | CBG | I dunno... |
| 16:34.14 | blast007_linux | ninjas are sneaky |
| 16:34.18 | CBG | I cant remember the last time i ran bzfs. |
| 16:34.19 | JeffM2501 | you don't know? |
| 16:34.40 | JeffM2501 | have you updated to newer CVS code since them? |
| 16:34.41 | CBG | I don't know if I have had this cvs version of bzfs working or not. |
| 16:34.47 | CBG | since what? |
| 16:35.01 | JeffM2501 | since you think maybe the last time you did run bzfs |
| 16:35.10 | CBG | I don't know. |
| 16:35.15 | JeffM2501 | guess |
| 16:35.31 | JeffM2501 | I am thinking it is probably |
| 16:35.42 | CBG | Its slightly more likely that I have updated since last time. |
| 16:36.07 | CBG | But this cvs version is from the 25/07. |
| 16:36.14 | JeffM2501 | now if you just run it with -public -d -d -d does it work? |
| 16:36.15 | CBG | Thats about 18 days ago... |
| 16:36.22 | CBG | i'll try |
| 16:37.34 | CBG | For a start, it's loading the masterban list - I haven't told it to...? |
| 16:37.58 | blast007_linux | doesn't it do that by default? |
| 16:38.09 | CBG | Ah. that's ok then. |
| 16:38.34 | CBG | but now I think it's stuck. |
| 16:38.56 | CBG | It told me the MapSize, Compression and MD5 generation like normal, then this: |
| 16:38.59 | CBG | CURLOPT_URL is : http://my.BZFlag.org/db/ |
| 16:38.59 | CBG | Queuing ADD message to list server |
| 16:39.08 | CBG | and now it is just waiting... |
| 16:40.17 | CBG | still not doing anything |
| 16:40.23 | JeffM2501 | loading masterban is default |
| 16:40.40 | JeffM2501 | list server is now async |
| 16:40.44 | JeffM2501 | so it can take time |
| 16:40.50 | JeffM2501 | did your server get listed pulbic? |
| 16:40.55 | JeffM2501 | is it running? |
| 16:41.08 | CBG | it says, Running a public server with the following settings |
| 16:41.21 | CBG | but the process doesnt seem finished... |
| 16:41.24 | CBG | i'll check |
| 16:41.36 | JeffM2501 | hmm q3 source to be released |
| 16:41.46 | JeffM2501 | wonder if it's as fugly as q1/2 |
| 16:41.51 | CBG | er, it works. |
| 16:42.34 | JeffM2501 | ok so go thru your config and turn stuff on untill you find out what you did wrong :) |
| 16:42.45 | CBG | It was the public line... |
| 16:42.59 | CBG | It gave an error when It was there, then no error when I commented it out... |
| 16:43.15 | JeffM2501 | but you just ran it with a simple -public and it worked |
| 16:43.25 | JeffM2501 | what did you have on your -public line? |
| 16:43.35 | CBG | with this line: -public "Server List Message" |
| 16:43.35 | CBG | it does not work. |
| 16:44.02 | JeffM2501 | there are other lines that could cause it, but not be used unless you were -plubic |
| 16:44.10 | JeffM2501 | do you have a -publicaddr? |
| 16:44.18 | CBG | -publicaddr cbg.kicks-ass.org |
| 16:44.32 | JeffM2501 | any other publicish lines? |
| 16:44.39 | CBG | -publiclist http://my.BZFlag.org:81/db/ |
| 16:44.47 | JeffM2501 | are you behind a proxy? |
| 16:44.56 | CBG | iirc, yes. |
| 16:45.15 | JeffM2501 | then why did it work in your simple test, with out that line? |
| 16:45.17 | CBG | It was you who told me to use that line all those months ago when I first hosted a server.... |
| 16:45.56 | CBG | JeffM2501: when i said it worked, i didn't say it worked publically. |
| 16:46.01 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 16:46.06 | JeffM2501 | that is what I wanted to know |
| 16:46.09 | JeffM2501 | did it work publicly |
| 16:46.24 | JeffM2501 | basicly we want to get it to the smallest set of paramaters that work publicly |
| 16:46.29 | CBG | How do i know? |
| 16:46.39 | JeffM2501 | tho honestly, I'd update your CVS and relbuild |
| 16:46.47 | JeffM2501 | the libcurl stuff has changed a lot rcently |
| 16:46.49 | CBG | I just ran this: /bzfs -public "JEFFM2501 test" -ddd |
| 16:47.09 | CBG | try to see if its on the list :) |
| 16:47.19 | blast007_linux | don't see it |
| 16:48.30 | blast007_linux | try it with your publicaddr and publiclist paramaters, and see if that has the "Bus Error" again |
| 16:48.50 | CBG | ok. |
| 16:49.00 | CBG | oh wait. |
| 16:49.04 | *** join/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 16:49.07 | CBG | that last command resulted in: There is a message already queued to the list server: not sending this one yet. |
| 16:49.10 | CBG | Segmentation fault |
| 16:49.12 | CBG | hi RPG_ |
| 16:49.17 | RPG_ | sup |
| 16:49.20 | JeffM2501 | seg fault |
| 16:49.21 | JeffM2501 | eww |
| 16:49.23 | JeffM2501 | update |
| 16:49.23 | CBG | :( |
| 16:49.26 | CBG | Ok. |
| 16:49.28 | JeffM2501 | update your code |
| 16:49.31 | JeffM2501 | and your curl if you can |
| 16:49.32 | CBG | I'll come back next week then. |
| 16:49.49 | RPG_ | jeffm: any protocol breaking changes to the API since yesterday? |
| 16:50.07 | CBG | What, like built in sardines? |
| 16:50.21 | JeffM2501 | protocoll? |
| 16:50.31 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, is the number still the same? |
| 16:51.29 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 16:52.37 | CBG | Atleast he stuck around to answer you Jeff. :) |
| 16:52.52 | *** join/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 16:52.52 | JeffM2501 | never understood why people don't just leave the IRC on |
| 16:53.03 | RPG_ | because it takes system recources! |
| 16:53.22 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 16:53.33 | JeffM2501 | if you have that little ram, you have many other problems |
| 16:53.46 | JeffM2501 | wow your computers must suck |
| 16:53.56 | CBG | No, my connection sucks. |
| 16:53.58 | RPG_ | it was expensive, and i didn't have the cashflow to get the extra memory! |
| 16:54.12 | CBG | I have an iBook, which is the definition of the opposite of sucky. :) |
| 16:54.18 | RPG_ | righto |
| 16:54.49 | ToughShooter | Nowadays I would use at least 512MB RAM, otherwise it slows down your so called expensivie hardware |
| 16:54.51 | CBG | Lefties forever! |
| 16:54.59 | RPG_ | i only got 512 |
| 16:55.07 | RPG_ | i'm lefty! |
| 16:55.57 | CBG | btw JeffM2501: What could be the reason why ./autogen.sh has never worked for me? |
| 16:56.11 | ToughShooter | An ibook really *****. I was using one by myself to play bzflag |
| 16:56.22 | JeffM2501 | CBG, the fact that you don't have autotools set up right |
| 16:56.30 | CBG | TouchShooter: hmm? |
| 16:56.33 | RPG_ | An ibook really *****. |
| 16:56.34 | RPG_ | reveal those stars! |
| 16:56.37 | CBG | JeffM2501: ah. :) I have always had to do |
| 16:56.43 | JeffM2501 | CBG, your connection is less then 128k up? |
| 16:56.56 | CBG | yes, iirc. |
| 16:56.57 | JeffM2501 | CBG, then our automake has never been set up right |
| 16:57.03 | CBG | oh? |
| 16:57.06 | JeffM2501 | CBG, and you run a server |
| 16:57.11 | CBG | I do? |
| 16:57.18 | RPG_ | yes, you do |
| 16:57.24 | JeffM2501 | you are trying to run bzfs plublicly |
| 16:57.31 | CBG | Not for myself. :) |
| 16:57.35 | JeffM2501 | if you can't run bzfs AND IRC< how do you expect it to host a game? |
| 16:57.48 | CBG | I'm working on the revised "How to run a server on mac OS X" :) |
| 16:58.02 | CBG | I can run bzfs and irc... |
| 16:58.14 | JeffM2501 | well I'd use a real OSX system to do that, not your messed up high lag one. |
| 16:58.18 | CBG | I just turn irc off when i play bzflag so it doesnt lag... |
| 16:58.29 | CBG | to do what, jeffm2501? |
| 16:58.35 | JeffM2501 | bzfs uses more bandwith the the client |
| 16:58.45 | JeffM2501 | CBG, build your instructions |
| 16:58.50 | JeffM2501 | you do not have a typical system |
| 16:59.10 | ToughShooter | An ibook shouldn't ne affected when having xchat running, slow FPS cause the lag |
| 16:59.30 | CBG | This isnt xchat, and its irrelevant. |
| 16:59.34 | BearPerson | yeah, I haven't seen much that was lower-traffic than IRC |
| 16:59.54 | CBG | "build your own instructions" huh? I am... |
| 17:00.08 | ToughShooter | Ah, ok. Colloquy causes the lag problems. |
| 17:00.21 | CBG | Maybe, i dunno... cause I close it... |
| 17:01.07 | JeffM2501 | it's probably your low bus speed and the thread swapout problems your kenel has that cause your lag when playing, not bandwith tho |
| 17:01.26 | CBG | this isn't helping me... :( |
| 17:01.37 | RPG_ | the solution: get a new mobo! |
| 17:01.41 | JeffM2501 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.41 | RPG_ | and a new kernel! |
| 17:01.43 | JeffM2501 | he can |
| 17:01.43 | JeffM2501 | t |
| 17:01.58 | ToughShooter | heh |
| 17:02.02 | CBG | "then our automake has never been set up right" so...? |
| 17:02.09 | JeffM2501 | so set it up right |
| 17:02.12 | JeffM2501 | use the fink |
| 17:02.16 | JeffM2501 | upgrade |
| 17:02.36 | ToughShooter | I doubt he get's $PATH right |
| 17:02.36 | CBG | I'll just stikck with doing it the long way, methinks. |
| 17:02.48 | CBG | TouchShooter: I am here, yaknow? |
| 17:03.00 | JeffM2501 | so that was a wasted 15 min then |
| 17:03.06 | CBG | What was? |
| 17:04.13 | CBG | I'm gonna walk the dog whilst it configures. |
| 17:04.19 | CBG | Cya in 15 mins folks. |
| 17:04.23 | CBG | n/away walking tom |
| 17:04.31 | RPG_ | I reinstalled VSC++, everything that didn't work before works fine (property pages, form manager), but I still get 880 errors, 460 of them unresolved externals, when compiling |
| 17:04.41 | RPG_ | bzfs |
| 17:04.55 | JeffM2501 | what is like the first one? |
| 17:05.30 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:05.30 | RPG_ | CustomWeapon.obj : error LNK2001: unresolved external symbol "public: static class TimeKeeper const & __cdecl TimeKeeper::getCurrent(void)" (?getCurrent@TimeKeeper@@SAABV1@XZ) |
| 17:05.53 | JeffM2501 | that's one of our files |
| 17:05.59 | JeffM2501 | your project is jacked |
| 17:06.03 | JeffM2501 | get clean files |
| 17:06.11 | RPG_ | i did |
| 17:06.22 | RPG_ | wiped the bzfs.vcproj file, re CVS'd it |
| 17:06.24 | JeffM2501 | and make sure you open the .SLN files NOT the .vcprog |
| 17:06.29 | RPG_ | heh |
| 17:06.30 | RPG_ | heh |
| 17:06.35 | JeffM2501 | never open the .vcprog files directly |
| 17:06.39 | RPG_ | heh |
| 17:06.39 | RPG_ | oh |
| 17:06.55 | JeffM2501 | they are sub projects |
| 17:07.13 | JeffM2501 | they only have parts of the code ( one per lib or exe ) |
| 17:07.19 | JeffM2501 | the sln binds them all together |
| 17:07.26 | JeffM2501 | as some code is shared between exes |
| 17:07.40 | RPG_ | can i compile just the bzfs part of the .sln or do i have to copmile the entire soultion? |
| 17:08.10 | JeffM2501 | you can just build bzfs |
| 17:08.21 | JeffM2501 | just right click on the bzfs sub project and say "build" |
| 17:08.26 | RPG_ | i did |
| 17:08.29 | JeffM2501 | then it will build it and any dependencys |
| 17:08.55 | JeffM2501 | but if you don't do it from the sln then it dosn't have the dependencys |
| 17:09.09 | JeffM2501 | if you did it from the vcprog, then all it is is bzfs |
| 17:09.10 | RPG_ | aah |
| 17:09.11 | JeffM2501 | no common |
| 17:09.14 | RPG_ | like ares and game |
| 17:09.15 | JeffM2501 | no time keeper |
| 17:09.16 | JeffM2501 | no lib game |
| 17:09.18 | JeffM2501 | no curl |
| 17:09.20 | JeffM2501 | none of thoat |
| 17:09.41 | JeffM2501 | use the sln |
| 17:09.45 | RPG_ | i am |
| 17:09.47 | JeffM2501 | it's not rocketsience |
| 17:09.49 | RPG_ | its running |
| 17:11.39 | RPG_ | and there it goes |
| 17:11.40 | RPG_ | 9 succeeded, 0 failed, 0 skipped |
| 17:12.20 | JeffM2501 | then it worked |
| 17:12.26 | RPG_ | yep |
| 17:12.54 | *** join/#bzflag mmu_man (i=revol@ALyon-253-1-38-53.w83-205.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:13.53 | JeffM2501 | were your mesh faces valid? |
| 17:14.43 | ToughShooter | Dunno, I had made something in Wings 3D and exported it with the plug-in |
| 17:14.59 | JeffM2501 | so you may have had invalid faces |
| 17:15.31 | ToughShooter | I don't know, I am not experienced with modelling |
| 17:15.55 | JeffM2501 | you can make things in modelers that are invlaid |
| 17:15.58 | JeffM2501 | rather easaly |
| 17:16.44 | ToughShooter | Hmm, maybe my tunnel is wrong |
| 17:17.36 | JeffM2501 | bz likes flat, convex faces |
| 17:18.45 | CBG | After configuring Terminal tells me:BZFlag-2.0.3.20050813 with the following: curses: -lncurses, SDL, bzadmin, bzflag client |
| 17:18.59 | CBG | Is that right, should it not say bzfs too? |
| 17:19.26 | JeffM2501 | bzfs is allways built |
| 17:19.31 | JeffM2501 | so it won't ever say it |
| 17:19.35 | CBG | Ok. thanks. |
| 17:19.38 | CBG | flat convex is oxymoronic JeffM2501. |
| 17:20.15 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I fixed the problem with the mesh |
| 17:21.45 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 17:21.53 | JeffM2501 | CBG, no it is not |
| 17:22.02 | JeffM2501 | you can have non planar convex polygons |
| 17:22.11 | CBG | ~dict convex |
| 17:22.13 | JeffM2501 | I have an engine that lives on them |
| 17:22.19 | JeffM2501 | the edges are convex aka no packman |
| 17:22.30 | CBG | see? convex is not flat. |
| 17:22.31 | JeffM2501 | but if if you have more then 3 verts you can go non planar |
| 17:22.51 | JeffM2501 | convex referrs to the edges in modeling |
| 17:23.02 | CBG | Oh. :( my bad. |
| 17:23.03 | JeffM2501 | flat or "planar" refers to the face surface itself |
| 17:23.14 | CBG | Ok. :s |
| 17:23.58 | JeffM2501 | the solution to fix them is nearly the same in both cases tho |
| 17:24.02 | JeffM2501 | teselate them |
| 17:24.14 | JeffM2501 | tho teselating non planar is a lot easyer then teselating concave |
| 17:25.42 | RPG_ | bzfs.exe - Entry Point Not Found |
| 17:25.42 | RPG_ | ------- |
| 17:25.42 | RPG_ | The procedure entry point ?bz_removeEvent@@YA_NW4bz_eEventType@@PAVbz_EventHandler@@@Z could not be located in the dynamic link library bzfs.exe. |
| 17:26.07 | RPG_ | is that error mine or yours? |
| 17:26.14 | JeffM2501 | RPG_ make sure your plugin is using the header from cvs, not one you downlaoded |
| 17:26.21 | JeffM2501 | and the lib |
| 17:26.26 | RPG_ | just compiled the lib |
| 17:26.36 | RPG_ | bzfsAPI.h is CVS |
| 17:26.36 | JeffM2501 | if you are building bzfs, then you DON"T use the header and lib I sent you that one time |
| 17:26.51 | JeffM2501 | I know you built it |
| 17:26.54 | JeffM2501 | make sure it's using it |
| 17:27.04 | RPG_ | it is |
| 17:27.17 | JeffM2501 | if it was, then you'd not get that error :) |
| 17:27.23 | RPG_ | Modified: today, 12:11 PM |
| 17:27.26 | RPG_ | it's now 12:27 |
| 17:27.39 | JeffM2501 | but is that the lib it's linking with? |
| 17:27.44 | JeffM2501 | do you maybe have more then oine? |
| 17:27.47 | RPG_ | no |
| 17:27.48 | RPG_ | only one |
| 17:28.28 | RPG_ | it compiled right |
| 17:28.35 | RPG_ | no errors |
| 17:29.03 | RPG_ | :slap: |
| 17:29.07 | RPG_ | i'm using b14 |
| 17:29.11 | JeffM2501 | see |
| 17:29.15 | RPG_ | no s*** its not working |
| 17:29.25 | RPG_ | lol |
| 17:29.28 | RPG_ | i gotta wakeup |
| 17:30.23 | blast007_linux | ~wake RPG_ |
| 17:30.24 | ibot | RPG_: GOOD MORNING!!! |
| 17:30.31 | blast007_linux | ;) |
| 17:30.32 | RPG_ | AAAHHHH~! |
| 17:32.57 | RPG_ | Is it a bug that rogues can talk to their teammates on the team channel? |
| 17:33.29 | JeffM2501 | undocumented feature |
| 17:33.48 | JeffM2501 | in rabbit they want to talk |
| 17:35.04 | RPG_ | oh |
| 17:35.05 | blast007_linux | it's also useful to call a temporary truce to gang up on a camper ;) |
| 17:35.10 | RPG_ | lol |
| 17:35.22 | RPG_ | i think on FFA or CTF games, though, rogues shouldn't be able to speak |
| 17:35.53 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't really harm anyone |
| 17:36.01 | JeffM2501 | and as blast says it can be usefull |
| 17:39.01 | ToughShooter | I've been in 3 situations where rogues teamed up against colors and that feature was handy at that situation |
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| 18:24.40 | JeffM2501 | sugestions on where to put a "plug-in releases" forum? |
| 18:24.47 | JeffM2501 | in dev or in main? |
| 18:33.23 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
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| 18:42.13 | JeffM2501 | trepan, what source file is triangulateFaces in? I can't seem to find it in a search |
| 18:43.09 | JeffM2501 | nm found it |
| 18:46.16 | *** join/#bzflag longhair (n=shane@pool-141-151-209-19.cap.east.verizon.net) |
| 18:51.55 | JeffM2501 | meacan, I did a windows build of your plugin |
| 18:51.59 | longhair | I'm running a private server, and was wondering about password security. The passwords appear encrypted in my password db file, but are they sent encrypted by the clients, or does bzfs encrypt them as they are written to the password database? |
| 18:52.00 | JeffM2501 | after fixin up the project |
| 18:52.38 | JeffM2501 | longhair, for servers that do local authentication ( use a local password file ) the password is sent via chat text using /identify command |
| 18:52.59 | JeffM2501 | we highly recomend using global authetnication, then the server dosn't see the password at all, ever |
| 18:53.23 | longhair | is there a way to use global authentication without being a public server? |
| 18:53.33 | JeffM2501 | well... |
| 18:53.34 | JeffM2501 | maybe |
| 18:53.37 | longhair | hehe |
| 18:53.38 | JeffM2501 | it was being worked on |
| 18:53.44 | JeffM2501 | I don't know how far they got |
| 18:53.52 | longhair | ok |
| 18:53.56 | JeffM2501 | I belive it will be a full feature by the time 2.0.4 is out |
| 18:53.57 | Chestal | there is new -advertise bzfs option |
| 18:54.08 | Chestal | the list server hasn't been updated yet, though |
| 18:54.11 | JeffM2501 | Chestal, yeah but I think some changes had to be made to the list server |
| 18:54.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:54.26 | JeffM2501 | longhair, you can try it with the cvs code and see if it works |
| 18:54.27 | Chestal | meno made them, but they have not been applied to the active list server |
| 18:54.47 | JeffM2501 | Chestal, last tim I was in the list server I saw some stuff for it, maybe it was applied |
| 18:54.52 | JeffM2501 | time not tim |
| 18:55.02 | Chestal | meno said somethign about a change to the database, too |
| 18:55.12 | Chestal | should ask Tim next time he shows up |
| 18:55.13 | JeffM2501 | yeah it needed a new bit or something |
| 18:55.39 | Chestal | anyone hates this: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/thilo/files/servercolors.png ? |
| 18:55.41 | JeffM2501 | I mean meno can update the list server, as can I |
| 18:55.52 | Chestal | if noone stops me, I will commit :-) |
| 18:56.04 | JeffM2501 | what do the colors mean? |
| 18:56.30 | Chestal | more shots-> reddish, jumping->green, CTF->blue |
| 18:56.42 | Chestal | so sevrers with similar setups have similar colors |
| 18:56.43 | JeffM2501 | I'd put a key on there |
| 18:56.49 | JeffM2501 | but yeah it's cool |
| 18:56.53 | longhair | thanks fellas, I'll check cvs or otherwise be patient |
| 18:57.15 | JeffM2501 | Chestal, and allow them to sort by color :) |
| 18:57.23 | JeffM2501 | and why is RED more shots? |
| 18:57.27 | JeffM2501 | not green? ;) |
| 18:57.31 | Chestal | no idea :-) |
| 18:57.34 | wegstar | :) |
| 18:57.35 | Chestal | just experimenting |
| 18:57.40 | JeffM2501 | red is usualy a "bad" color |
| 18:57.44 | Chestal | the server list needs som eimprovements |
| 18:57.47 | JeffM2501 | I'd put a key |
| 18:57.50 | JeffM2501 | that it totaly does |
| 18:58.00 | Chestal | thought of server favorites, too |
| 18:58.05 | JeffM2501 | that is needed |
| 18:58.09 | Chestal | or it could remember which serves I played on often etc. |
| 18:58.15 | BearPerson | maybe format the "jumping" and other words in the top accordingly |
| 18:58.28 | JeffM2501 | bookmark servers |
| 18:58.33 | BearPerson | use the "bad" colors for the servers bad for newbies ;-) |
| 18:58.33 | JeffM2501 | and then like a server history |
| 18:58.37 | JeffM2501 | last 3 you played on |
| 18:59.01 | JeffM2501 | the server browser has many thigns similar to a web browser |
| 19:00.09 | Chestal | with the current coloring, the popular FFA servers with jumping look yellowish/brownish, the CTF servers with jumping have a dark cyan, ducati style have dark purple |
| 19:00.32 | Chestal | single shot FFA servers 1 shot would be just gray, with 20 shots would be red |
| 19:00.53 | BearPerson | I'd say other way around |
| 19:01.00 | Chestal | it#s totally arbitrary, not even sure that choosing shots+jumping+CTF are the best attributes |
| 19:01.20 | BearPerson | a lot of shots is good for newbies, while almost no shots is "difficult" |
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| 19:02.22 | JeffM2501 | it's an iteresting idea, coloring it more based on more shots |
| 19:02.29 | JeffM2501 | just wondering how to explain it |
| 19:02.35 | JeffM2501 | to the end users |
| 19:02.44 | JeffM2501 | cus to them it'll feel like random colors |
| 19:03.19 | blast007_linux | what would really be nice is columns (with shot count, game style, ping), but that's quite a bit more work :) |
| 19:03.26 | Chestal | yes, its basically only useful to see which serves are similar |
| 19:03.32 | BearPerson | ping would be interesting |
| 19:03.43 | BearPerson | but not quite doable yet I suppose |
| 19:03.43 | Chestal | if you prefer a certain game style, you'd be most interested in certain colors |
| 19:03.43 | JeffM2501 | Chestal, I think it's more uesfull then you think, as long as they k now |
| 19:03.52 | JeffM2501 | BearPerson, then we'd have to ping all servers |
| 19:03.57 | BearPerson | aye |
| 19:04.04 | JeffM2501 | many servers don't respond to pings |
| 19:04.12 | JeffM2501 | all the smart ones at least :) |
| 19:04.16 | blast007_linux | hmm..suppose so |
| 19:04.25 | JeffM2501 | best would be to have the list server keep lagstats when they do the updates |
| 19:04.42 | JeffM2501 | or we do a protocll based ping |
| 19:04.59 | Chestal | sent SYN packets and wait for FIN reply :-) |
| 19:05.21 | Chestal | they cannot stop this from working... |
| 19:05.29 | JeffM2501 | this is true |
| 19:05.33 | Chestal | eh, ACK reply, or whatever |
| 19:05.44 | BearPerson | a single UDP packet specially handled... |
| 19:05.51 | JeffM2501 | but would you want your client to send out 135 pings right off the bat? |
| 19:06.47 | JeffM2501 | oh, is there somone here who could make a small shell script? |
| 19:06.50 | blast007_linux | maybe on a per-page basis, if they remain on the page for X seconds |
| 19:06.58 | JeffM2501 | for linux for the plugins |
| 19:07.37 | JeffM2501 | blast007_linux, or we start at the top and start pinging them 2-3 at a time and cycle thru |
| 19:07.44 | JeffM2501 | then your popular ones get hit first |
| 19:07.53 | blast007_linux | or that :) |
| 19:07.54 | JeffM2501 | then update every couple min |
| 19:07.59 | JeffM2501 | that's how subspace did it |
| 19:08.29 | JeffM2501 | I need a shell script that will make a copy of the sample plugin and replace SAMPLE_PLUGIN with the real plugin name, in all files in the dir |
| 19:08.44 | JeffM2501 | and any file names that have SAMPLE_PLUGIN |
| 19:09.21 | JeffM2501 | would that be hard? |
| 19:09.45 | BearPerson | not hard |
| 19:09.51 | BearPerson | which is it that you need, lemme see |
| 19:10.30 | BearPerson | replace in the files or in the file names? |
| 19:10.38 | blast007_linux | both |
| 19:10.55 | BearPerson | hrmm... |
| 19:11.03 | BearPerson | in the files is easy... |
| 19:11.51 | BearPerson | find new_dir -type f -exec sed -i 's/SAMPLE_PLUGIN/new_plugin/g' '{}' \; |
| 19:11.58 | BearPerson | filenames... lemme see |
| 19:12.08 | JeffM2501 | I want somone to make and test the script for me |
| 19:12.15 | BearPerson | oki, sure |
| 19:12.24 | JeffM2501 | then it can just be checked in |
| 19:12.51 | BearPerson | <script> <sample dir> <new dir> as a syntax? |
| 19:13.00 | BearPerson | will we encounter filenames with spaces in them? |
| 19:13.10 | BearPerson | can I use <new dir> as new plugin name too? |
| 19:13.45 | JeffM2501 | script newpluginname |
| 19:13.50 | JeffM2501 | yeah dir is the same as the plugin |
| 19:14.00 | BearPerson | oki, will hardcode the sample dir name then |
| 19:14.05 | JeffM2501 | so like makeplugin killallnamedbob |
| 19:14.12 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 19:14.20 | JeffM2501 | basicly I want it to be in the source tree |
| 19:14.26 | JeffM2501 | with the SAMPLE_PLUGIN dir |
| 19:14.38 | JeffM2501 | and they just run it right from the plugins dir |
| 19:14.44 | BearPerson | oki, sure |
| 19:14.48 | JeffM2501 | just to make it easy |
| 19:14.59 | BearPerson | how about spaces in filenames? |
| 19:15.47 | blast007_linux | shouldn't be any spaces, or else the class definition would be all screwed up |
| 19:15.53 | BearPerson | oki |
| 19:16.20 | blast007_linux | hmm..if it even defines a class in there |
| 19:16.21 | BearPerson | can I get a sample plugin dir to test on? is one in anoncvs? |
| 19:16.30 | blast007_linux | yeah, it's in anon |
| 19:16.38 | JeffM2501 | spaces would be bad |
| 19:16.41 | BearPerson | oki |
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| 19:17.05 | JeffM2501 | no classes are named it by default but some #defs are |
| 19:17.22 | blast007_linux | k |
| 19:17.44 | BearPerson | this is an easy one |
| 19:18.03 | Chestal | no CIA? |
| 19:18.06 | Chestal | hi Tim |
| 19:18.31 | blast007_linux | cia.navi.cx is down it seems |
| 19:19.21 | BearPerson | where's the plugins? |
| 19:19.47 | blast007_linux | the the plugins/ directory |
| 19:19.58 | BearPerson | hrmm... |
| 19:20.29 | BearPerson | cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bzflag ? |
| 19:20.36 | Chestal | cvs up -Pd ? |
| 19:20.53 | JeffM2501 | plugins are part of the normal source distor |
| 19:21.00 | JeffM2501 | well the ones I made at least |
| 19:21.06 | BearPerson | ah, thanks |
| 19:21.12 | BearPerson | wasn't getting them it seems |
| 19:21.22 | Chestal | plain cs up doesn't create new dirs |
| 19:21.29 | BearPerson | ah, I see |
| 19:23.30 | BearPerson | gaak, had $2 instead of $1 all over the place... oops |
| 19:24.44 | BearPerson | hmm... the only trouble I see now is that it copies the CVS/ directory too |
| 19:24.58 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 19:26.14 | BearPerson | "This is the test_plugin. It makes a test_plugin_DESCRIPTION |
| 19:26.14 | BearPerson | Replace everyone in every file in here the term test_plugin with the name of your project" |
| 19:26.19 | BearPerson | lol... appears to be working |
| 19:26.31 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 19:26.52 | JeffM2501 | if you could have it not do the CVS dir that'd be cool |
| 19:27.01 | JeffM2501 | or just delete the cvs dir after the copy in the new dir |
| 19:27.06 | BearPerson | I can rm the CVS dir |
| 19:27.10 | BearPerson | will we ever have subdirs? |
| 19:27.10 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 19:27.20 | JeffM2501 | not in the sample I don't think |
| 19:27.25 | BearPerson | oki |
| 19:27.33 | JeffM2501 | the sample is very basic framework that's all |
| 19:27.45 | BearPerson | if they start containing SAMPLE_PLUGIN in their name things get a bit messy ;-) |
| 19:28.05 | JeffM2501 | I figured I was safe using that name :) |
| 19:30.21 | BearPerson | I hope the .sln likes just names getting search-and-replaced and not the ID numbers |
| 19:30.48 | BearPerson | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:31.38 | JeffM2501 | it's fine |
| 19:31.41 | BearPerson | other than that, it's working |
| 19:31.41 | JeffM2501 | I do it all the time |
| 19:31.50 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 19:31.54 | JeffM2501 | can you send it to me? |
| 19:31.57 | JeffM2501 | I'll commit it |
| 19:32.00 | BearPerson | sure |
| 19:32.11 | JeffM2501 | PM it and atach it :) |
| 19:32.37 | BearPerson | trying dcc... |
| 19:32.50 | JeffM2501 | dcc no go |
| 19:33.02 | BearPerson | PM'ing... |
| 19:33.06 | JeffM2501 | thanks |
| 19:33.48 | JeffM2501 | oh, I meant on bzbb, but that'll work :) |
| 19:34.16 | BearPerson | whichever works best |
| 19:34.22 | BearPerson | bzbb is no extra work |
| 19:34.30 | JeffM2501 | this IRC logs |
| 19:34.33 | JeffM2501 | I have it now |
| 19:34.36 | JeffM2501 | I'll commit in a bit :) |
| 19:35.23 | BearPerson | the EOF at the end doesn't go in with the file ;-) |
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| 19:39.37 | RPG_ | hi |
| 19:39.41 | RPG_ | speaking of errors.... |
| 19:39.42 | wegstar | hi |
| 19:39.54 | RPG_ | i got a nasty crash |
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| 19:44.30 | JeffM2501 | what is -a for cp? |
| 19:44.36 | JeffM2501 | OSX dosn't like it |
| 19:44.49 | JeffM2501 | would it not be -r? |
| 19:45.33 | RPG_ | are those comments directed at me? |
| 19:45.51 | JeffM2501 | should put in there too chown -R us base* :) |
| 19:45.53 | Chestal | -a is -r plus more (identical permissions etc.) |
| 19:46.18 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 19:46.33 | Chestal | probably a GNU extension |
| 19:46.43 | blast007_linux | GNU OPTIONS |
| 19:46.44 | blast007_linux | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.46 | blast007_linux | ;) |
| 19:46.48 | jpa_ | "Equivalent to -dpPR." |
| 19:47.29 | blast007_linux | mine show -dpR |
| 19:48.10 | jpa_ | your is older than fileutils 4.1 |
| 19:48.42 | JeffM2501 | well I'll put it in there and somone can tweak if need be :) |
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| 19:49.11 | jpa_ | but don't put the -P |
| 19:49.22 | jpa_ | seems that it is quite new meaning for the switch |
| 19:50.00 | jpa_ | -dpR should be enough |
| 19:50.15 | jpa_ | actually, -d includes -P anyway.. |
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| 20:00.48 | RPG_ | i got a stubborn plugin that crashes on this line: |
| 20:00.48 | RPG_ | report_data += TextUtils::format("%s", TextUtils::replace_all(data->callsign.c_str(), ":", "")); |
| 20:00.51 | JeffM2501 | man is binary spike funny |
| 20:01.21 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, replace_all returns a std::string |
| 20:01.27 | RPG_ | d'oh |
| 20:01.28 | JeffM2501 | you can't pass that into %s |
| 20:01.38 | JeffM2501 | put a .c_str() before your last ) |
| 20:03.15 | RPG_ | and in preliminary tests, your addURLjob is failing |
| 20:03.28 | RPG_ | havn't had time to sticlty debug that yet |
| 20:03.35 | JeffM2501 | what input are you sending in? |
| 20:03.49 | JeffM2501 | I didn't have anything to test it with |
| 20:03.57 | RPG_ | bz_addURLJob(static const char* URL, NULL, std::string report_data.c_str()); |
| 20:04.05 | JeffM2501 | it's just a wrapper around the internal manager |
| 20:04.12 | RPG_ | static const char* URL = "http://www.a-delusion.com/raceto7/racetosevenreport.php?report=true"; |
| 20:04.18 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, yes thank you for showing me the prototype of the fucnntion I wrote :) |
| 20:04.23 | RPG_ | lol |
| 20:04.33 | JeffM2501 | ewww |
| 20:04.41 | JeffM2501 | dude learn to use strings :) |
| 20:04.58 | RPG_ | make URL a std::string? |
| 20:05.03 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:05.09 | JeffM2501 | then you know what is beeing allocated |
| 20:05.15 | JeffM2501 | but put in a handler and see if you get an error |
| 20:05.22 | JeffM2501 | that's WHY the handler is there |
| 20:05.44 | JeffM2501 | also try with get, post is brand new |
| 20:05.59 | RPG_ | so far it hasn't even gotten the URL |
| 20:06.05 | RPG_ | but i'll try with the std::string |
| 20:06.49 | JeffM2501 | ohh the string isn't the problem |
| 20:07.00 | JeffM2501 | it's just me picking a nit :) |
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| 20:07.31 | RPG_ | i had to test other things in that compile, to |
| 20:10.44 | RPG_ | bug: bz_resetPlayerScore() doesn't acutally reset the player's score |
| 20:10.54 | RPG_ | i'll make a post about it |
| 20:11.10 | JeffM2501 | yeah that one I know |
| 20:11.15 | RPG_ | ok |
| 20:11.31 | JeffM2501 | there is a SF bug for it |
| 20:11.42 | RPG_ | hey the addURLjob works now |
| 20:11.49 | RPG_ | must have been something i just changed |
| 20:11.54 | RPG_ | 'cause i'm getting the reports |
| 20:13.03 | JeffM2501 | uhhh uhhhh.... |
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| 21:00.40 | RPG_ | ~seen A-Delusion |
| 21:00.43 | ibot | a-delusion <n=44a2abce@webchat.bzflag.bz> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 2d 5h 38m 25s ago, saying: 'mostly homosexual stuff, holey may be punished as well'. |
| 21:04.13 | RPG_ | I can say that the addURLjob works 100% |
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| 21:13.15 | RPG_ | sup CBG |
| 21:14.26 | CBG | hi RPG_ |
| 21:14.43 | RPG_ | the race to seven plugin worked! |
| 21:14.51 | CBG | on windows? |
| 21:14.53 | RPG_ | yep |
| 21:15.03 | RPG_ | we need someone to port it to linux |
| 21:15.07 | RPG_ | and mac when support is finished |
| 21:15.48 | CBG | Why tell me? :S |
| 21:16.00 | RPG_ | becaus i'm HAPPY |
| 21:16.06 | CBG | I hope your not thinking what I think your thinking! |
| 21:16.20 | CBG | Oh, cool. I'm happy too. :) |
| 21:16.25 | RPG_ | I may be thinking that, but i'll never know unless you tell me what you're thinking :p |
| 21:16.48 | CBG | heh, true. |
| 21:18.11 | RPG_ | anyone feel like compiling something on linux? |
| 21:18.36 | meacan | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:18.47 | RPG_ | hold on.... i jsut got a copmiler error |
| 21:18.59 | RPG_ | hehe |
| 21:19.01 | RPG_ | *heh |
| 21:20.05 | meacan | RPG_: im in no hurry - found an error myself :) |
| 21:20.13 | RPG_ | in what? |
| 21:20.39 | meacan | RPG_: my chatchannel plugin |
| 21:20.43 | RPG_ | aah |
| 21:24.37 | RPG_ | BlueTeaminfo = bz_getTeamWins(BZ_BLUE_TEAM); |
| 21:24.37 | RPG_ | if(eventData) |
| 21:24.37 | RPG_ | if(((bz_CTFCaptureEventData*)eventData)->teamCaping == BZ_BLUE_TEAM) BlueTeamInfo++; |
| 21:24.37 | RPG_ | } |
| 21:24.47 | RPG_ | uh.... sry |
| 21:24.51 | RPG_ | wrong box |
| 21:24.53 | meacan | missing { ? :) |
| 21:25.15 | RPG_ | i got a strnage error... says a variable is undeclared, but i so declared it! |
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| 21:25.51 | meacan | RPG_: pastebin it, if you want a fresh set of eyes to look at it |
| 21:26.22 | RPG_ | http://pastebin.com/3361953 |
| 21:26.32 | RPG_ | g:\Programs\Dev-Cpp\repisitories\bzflag\plugins\racetoseven\racetoseven.cpp(54) : error C2065: 'RedTeamInfo' : undeclared identifier |
| 21:26.46 | RPG_ | err... make that BlueTeamInfo |
| 21:26.50 | RPG_ | copied hte wrong error |
| 21:27.17 | RPG_ | here's the declaration: int BlueTeaminfo |
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| 21:28.08 | meacan | RPG_: in pastebin you write BuleTeaminfo (not Info) |
| 21:28.16 | meacan | RPG_: capital I |
| 21:28.59 | RPG_ | ~slap RPG_ |
| 21:28.59 | ibot | ACTION slaps RPG_, keep your grubby fingers to yourself! |
| 21:29.15 | RPG_ | heh |
| 21:29.18 | RPG_ | that was rather simple |
| 21:30.18 | RPG_ | 836KB |
| 21:30.21 | RPG_ | gave you everything |
| 21:30.23 | RPG_ | e-mail address? |
| 21:31.04 | meacan | RPG_: dennis@moellegaard.dk |
| 21:31.05 | RPG_ | meacan: what's you e-mail address? |
| 21:31.14 | RPG_ | garrett@garrettsites.net |
| 21:32.05 | RPG_ | sent |
| 21:32.40 | RPG_ | its everything- even VSC++'s junk info |
| 21:32.50 | meacan | ok |
| 21:32.51 | RPG_ | such as the buildlog |
| 21:33.37 | meacan | RPG_: just received it. Gonna look at it now |
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| 22:02.03 | CBG | wb jeff. :) |
| 22:03.01 | JeffM2501 | danke |
| 22:03.42 | JeffM2501 | don't get many germans over there? |
| 22:04.39 | Pimpinella | they defend their island bravely... |
| 22:05.14 | BearPerson | http://www.orsm.net/images/nottinghillgate.jpg <<apropos defending an island |
| 22:05.25 | CBG | No JeffM2501, Yes Pimpinella. :) |
| 22:05.56 | JeffM2501 | CBG, you do get them over there, I just think you don't see them |
| 22:05.59 | Pimpinella | and hey, who want's to go where men live who dont wear underwear beneath their skirts... |
| 22:06.15 | CBG | JeffM2501: how would I if I don't go out? :) |
| 22:06.28 | CBG | Pimpinella: thats not Wales... |
| 22:06.31 | JeffM2501 | the sun is our friend |
| 22:06.47 | Pimpinella | same island |
| 22:06.47 | CBG | No! It burns! and is bright! |
| 22:06.57 | Pimpinella | same ethnic group |
| 22:07.10 | CBG | Thats a matter of opinion! LOL |
| 22:07.45 | Pimpinella | CBG: do you speak gaelic? |
| 22:07.53 | CBG | Whny would I? |
| 22:08.01 | JeffM2501 | where are you going to uni CBG ? |
| 22:08.09 | CBG | Maybe. |
| 22:08.40 | CBG | Why the funny questions, guys? :) |
| 22:09.13 | trepan | JeffM2501: try the q3bsp stuff with the triangulation? |
| 22:09.15 | JeffM2501 | I was just cuirous |
| 22:09.19 | JeffM2501 | trepan, naw |
| 22:09.29 | JeffM2501 | not yet |
| 22:09.36 | Pimpinella | same here |
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| 22:11.45 | JeffM2501 | but hey, next week can just port bzflag to quake3 and be done with it, right? |
| 22:12.47 | trepan | ~Cormack++ |
| 22:14.25 | JeffM2501 | I do wonder how fugly the code will be |
| 22:15.09 | Pimpinella | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:15.22 | Pimpinella | this shouldn't be a problem, no? |
| 22:16.23 | JeffM2501 | naw should be simple |
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| 22:18.04 | Pimpinella | to late, thing i should go to bed |
| 22:18.30 | Pimpinella | ~x de en taufe |
| 22:19.14 | Pimpinella | going to ^^ my son tomorrow |
| 22:20.37 | CBG | Oh, nice. :) |
| 22:24.09 | Pimpinella | #§&$! i get a dns timeout contactin my.bzflag.org |
| 22:25.16 | BearPerson | my.bzflag.org has address 69.28.129.167 |
| 22:25.20 | BearPerson | use /etc/hosts :) |
| 22:26.15 | Pimpinella | i know the ip, i just don't like broken things (like broken dns) ;) |
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| 23:15.58 | meacan | JeffM2501: can you mail the files you changed to make windows binary of my plugin? |
| 23:16.05 | JeffM2501 | sire |
| 23:16.07 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 23:17.59 | meacan | JeffM2501: mail 'em to dennis@moellegaard.dk |
| 23:18.47 | JeffM2501 | k. let me finish verbaly chastising RPG |
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| 23:38.59 | CBG | JeffM2501: you kinda did a double post: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=4905 |
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| 23:39.56 | JeffM2501 | eww |
| 23:40.39 | JeffM2501 | danke |
| 23:40.50 | CBG | ~x en de Your Welcome. |
| 23:40.59 | CBG | ^ what he said, JeffM2501. |
| 23:41.01 | JeffM2501 | you jsut say biten |
| 23:41.25 | CBG | ~x de en biten |
| 23:41.34 | CBG | ...? |
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| 23:43.23 | CBG | Are you coming or going, mmu_man? :) |
| 23:44.26 | mmu_man | re |
| 23:44.37 | CBG | ~dict re |
| 23:44.43 | mmu_man | stupid tingy locked up |
| 23:44.54 | CBG | Which tingy it this? |
| 23:45.14 | mmu_man | deskbar |
| 23:45.23 | mmu_man | (the taskbar in beos) |
| 23:45.36 | trepan | Chestal: although its pretty, the list colors don't do that much for me =) |
| 23:46.23 | menotume | wait till he makes them blink, and underline. |
| 23:46.33 | menotume | now, THAT would be useful |
| 23:46.56 | trepan | wonder if he's overriden the ANSI codes |
| 23:47.43 | menotume | i think he just went to bed |
| 23:48.20 | trepan | little icons on the side would be much easier to read |
| 23:48.21 | menotume | we use ANSI for that stuff ? |
| 23:48.26 | trepan | but that'd take work |
| 23:48.30 | menotume | i thought ogl calls |
| 23:49.00 | trepan | menotume: i don't if Chestal's changed it, but you could embed ANSI codes into the server name |
| 23:49.13 | menotume | ahh |
| 23:49.22 | menotume | interesting |
| 23:49.25 | trepan | they should be stripped at the list server |
| 23:49.42 | menotume | i should check that |
| 23:49.45 | trepan | ... it's in the BUGS file |
| 23:49.50 | menotume | ahhh |
| 23:50.18 | menotume | right up there at the top :) |
| 23:50.48 | menotume | ANSI is, what ... ESC xxxxx ] ? |
| 23:50.52 | menotume | something like that ? |
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| 23:51.42 | trepan | include/AnsiCodes.h |
| 23:51.57 | Chestal | trepan: no, not using any ANSI stuff, just added a color attribute to the HUDuiLabel objects |
| 23:52.21 | menotume | Chestal: go to sleep !! |
| 23:52.39 | Chestal | list server should either strip all non-readbale chars or maybe even reject those servers |
| 23:52.40 | trepan | Chestal: this i realize, just wondering if it was overriding the ANSI color settings |
| 23:52.56 | menotume | I'll fix the listserver |
| 23:53.18 | Chestal | trepan: it just sets the color via a GL call before drawing the string; actually, it weas doing this before already, now it can just be a different color |
| 23:53.18 | menotume | it should strip known ansi sequences, and non-readables too |
| 23:53.30 | JeffM2501 | meacan, sent |
| 23:53.31 | Chestal | no need fo ran extra ansi handling |
| 23:53.35 | Chestal | ESC is non-readbale anyway |
| 23:53.40 | menotume | right |
| 23:53.53 | menotume | so, just like the crap thru, and strip the ESC ? |
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| 23:54.07 | menotume | speaking of crap |
| 23:54.10 | trepan | Chestal: so ANSI codes probably still work then |
| 23:54.15 | Chestal | trepan: probably, yes |
| 23:54.29 | Chestal | wasn't aware that they work there, hmm |
| 23:54.31 | menotume | hi learner !! |
| 23:54.43 | Chestal | gives an alternative way to get colored text in menus |
| 23:55.17 | learner | menotume, howdy :) |
| 23:55.28 | learner | the crap reference was conveniently timed :) |
| 23:55.33 | JeffM2501 | how was the train? |
| 23:55.48 | learner | it was pretty good |
| 23:55.53 | learner | long :) |
| 23:55.58 | learner | but got a lot of good work done |
| 23:56.01 | JeffM2501 | how long over was it? |
| 23:56.06 | JeffM2501 | did you get plugins working on the mac? |
| 23:56.07 | learner | and seeing the country was pretty awesome |
| 23:56.17 | JeffM2501 | cus damn the 'toshies are chaterin about it? ;) |
| 23:57.01 | learner | hrm hrm, i've been offline since I got home until now -- didn't get it before I left (other than a successful build) |
| 23:57.13 | learner | compile or run-time? |
| 23:57.20 | JeffM2501 | both |
| 23:58.44 | JeffM2501 | there is no loader, and the makefiles for the plugins say it's using options that don't exist in my compuler |
| 23:58.49 | learner | got a compile going now -- let ya know |
| 23:59.10 | JeffM2501 | you need a #def to turn on the plugins |
| 23:59.15 | JeffM2501 | don't think current build does em |
| 23:59.18 | JeffM2501 | on mac |
| 23:59.24 | learner | where would that be? |
| 23:59.30 | JeffM2501 | config IIRC |
| 23:59.37 | learner | k |
| 23:59.40 | JeffM2501 | USE_API IIRC |
| 23:59.54 | menotume | yep, my server description is yellow on the list :) |
