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| 00:28.00 | geoffrey | hi |
| 00:28.05 | RPG_ | hello |
| 00:28.44 | geoffrey | sigh... problem is i'm known on other IRC channels on this server as geoffrey |
| 00:28.52 | geoffrey | so I can't change it just for one channel |
| 00:29.05 | RPG_ | actually, you could |
| 00:29.11 | RPG_ | just tell everyone :P |
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| 00:29.28 | geoffrey | :P |
| 00:29.34 | zoly | g'day |
| 00:29.42 | geoffrey | easier just to say I'm UGM when I arrive here :) |
| 00:29.48 | zoly | brad2901, RPG_, match ? |
| 00:29.58 | RPG_ | actually, i was about to test my plugin |
| 00:30.00 | RPG_ | but SURE!!!! |
| 00:30.09 | RPG_ | how about my place? |
| 00:30.12 | RPG_ | for testing? |
| 00:30.13 | zoly | only if you can afford the time |
| 00:30.21 | RPG_ | ooh but it wont' be the special map |
| 00:30.40 | zoly | not agreed on any map yet. i suspect pillbox |
| 00:30.43 | zoly | pillbox |
| 00:31.01 | RPG_ | i'm testing on a randomly generated map |
| 00:31.03 | RPG_ | by BZFS |
| 00:31.18 | RPG_ | i gotta test, ill be ack in 5 minutes |
| 00:31.30 | zoly | team pillbox just got hold of me, challenging |
| 00:31.38 | RPG_ | when? |
| 00:31.49 | zoly | 3 min ago. |
| 00:32.04 | zoly | 30 sec before i joined here |
| 00:32.55 | geoffrey | sigh... |
| 00:33.19 | geoffrey | i want to show something I just commited into SF CVS in a project of mine to a friend |
| 00:33.30 | geoffrey | but... have to wait for the anonymous server to sync up :( |
| 00:33.45 | blast007 | you could send them a .diff |
| 00:34.32 | geoffrey | nah, i'll make them wait :P |
| 00:34.39 | geoffrey | too lazy to do anything else |
| 00:34.44 | blast007 | heh |
| 00:36.21 | RPG_ | doh |
| 00:37.25 | JeffM2501 | bahhh.... looks like score seting will have to wait for 2.1 |
| 00:37.58 | RPG_ | awwwwwwww |
| 00:38.14 | JeffM2501 | client just can't do it |
| 00:38.23 | JeffM2501 | I have to remove score handaling from the client |
| 00:38.26 | JeffM2501 | and let the server do it |
| 00:38.33 | JeffM2501 | right now the client ignores all it's own score updates |
| 00:38.43 | JeffM2501 | because it handles them itself |
| 00:38.46 | geoffrey | well, bye |
| 00:39.20 | JeffM2501 | I could cheeze and make a new message, but why bother when it won't work on every client |
| 00:39.28 | RPG_ | ahh |
| 00:39.56 | JeffM2501 | so team score is all you can get now |
| 00:40.03 | JeffM2501 | it'll be nice to have all the score server side tho |
| 00:40.13 | JeffM2501 | and just have the client handle dumb updates. |
| 00:40.19 | RPG_ | less cheating possibilities? |
| 00:40.34 | JeffM2501 | lessens the posiblitys |
| 00:40.44 | JeffM2501 | right now the score IS server side |
| 00:40.49 | RPG_ | plus we can get like a fraction of a percent of our CPU back? |
| 00:40.53 | JeffM2501 | so if you reset it, somone who joined new would see it reset |
| 00:41.00 | JeffM2501 | just all existing players would see everyone but them reset |
| 00:41.13 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, not really |
| 00:41.49 | JeffM2501 | it's just being moved from one place to another |
| 00:45.06 | RPG_ | would allowing message colorization on messages coming from the server be acceptable? |
| 00:45.13 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 00:45.18 | RPG_ | ok |
| 00:45.18 | JeffM2501 | too easy to fake |
| 00:45.21 | JeffM2501 | color is EVIL |
| 00:45.39 | RPG_ | it would make |
| 00:45.39 | RPG_ | = "/match config set _allowPlayersDuringMatch "; |
| 00:45.39 | RPG_ | read better |
| 00:56.24 | RPG_ | READ ERROR?!?!?! |
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| 01:32.41 | I_Died_On | yo? |
| 01:32.47 | RPG_ | hi |
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| 01:33.48 | I_Died_Once | gah |
| 01:34.20 | RPG_ | huh? |
| 01:40.12 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/plugins/chathistory/chathistory.cpp: do not crash on chat history listing. also free all requested player records. memory leaks are bad. |
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| 01:44.39 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/plugins/doc/functions.html: typos |
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| 01:46.35 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/plugins/killall/killall.cpp: set a good example and free our player records, delete our apilists. |
| 01:51.51 | RPG_ | this is specific: Project : error PRJ0019: A tool returned an error code from "Performing Post-Build Event..." |
| 01:59.42 | RPG_ | is there anything wrong with |
| 01:59.42 | RPG_ | for(int i = 0; i < lines.size(); i++){ |
| 01:59.42 | RPG_ | the i < lines.size() part? |
| 01:59.48 | RPG_ | it says: |
| 02:00.07 | RPG_ | g:\Programs\bzflag\plugins\racetoseven\racetoseven.cpp(462) : warning C4018: '<' : signed/unsigned mismatch |
| 02:00.23 | RPG_ | and only runs the loop once, even thought lines has 3 entries |
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| 02:08.33 | RPG_ | damnit |
| 02:08.40 | RPG_ | MSVC++ wants another damn reinstall |
| 02:13.31 | trepan | 1. the warning is valid |
| 02:13.43 | RPG_ | i know |
| 02:13.45 | trepan | 2. are you manipulating 'lines' or 'i' in the loop? |
| 02:13.46 | RPG_ | but then the program died |
| 02:14.15 | RPG_ | the loop should keep runnign as long as i is less than the size of lines |
| 02:14.20 | RPG_ | lines is an std::vector |
| 02:14.42 | RPG_ | then the compiler sat on itself and died |
| 02:14.45 | RPG_ | and i can't work anymore |
| 02:14.52 | trepan | is it crashing or just not working? |
| 02:15.03 | RPG_ | it says i need to reinstall the program |
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| 03:53.09 | Tegan | hi |
| 03:55.03 | blast007 | hello |
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| 05:02.02 | trepan | learner: http://openusability.org for bz? =) |
| 05:02.11 | learner | heh |
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| 05:36.18 | silverfox | hello all. |
| 05:36.47 | silverfox | I'm looking for where in the source that the /say command is implemented. |
| 05:36.54 | silverfox | having trouble finding it though. |
| 05:37.00 | trepan | looking to make it anonymous? |
| 05:37.13 | silverfox | yes. |
| 05:38.14 | trepan | find SayCommand::operator in commands.cxx |
| 05:38.22 | trepan | although I can't see a need for it |
| 05:38.53 | silverfox | not found... |
| 05:39.01 | trepan | cvs? |
| 05:39.11 | silverfox | I thought I just updated it. |
| 05:39.28 | silverfox | lemme look at the output more closely to make sure it didn't have the big one on me. |
| 05:41.01 | silverfox | yup. |
| 05:41.04 | silverfox | tis ok. |
| 05:41.37 | silverfox | heh, ok... its there now. I must not have had cvs right, but do now. |
| 05:42.50 | trepan | yay, more stupid anon messages from asshat admins coming your way soon |
| 05:43.33 | trepan | can't say i didn't help ya though ;) |
| 05:54.13 | trepan | whether or not to write a proper animation setup... (as opposed to just spinning) |
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| 06:10.26 | silverfox | uh oh... |
| 06:10.27 | silverfox | 24503 Segmentation fault |
| 06:13.47 | silverfox | stange, the commands.cxx file changed when I compiled again... |
| 06:19.12 | silverfox | autogen takes forever.. |
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| 06:25.11 | silverfox | since when does ./configure want to compile win32 on a linux machine? |
| 06:25.12 | silverfox | config.status: error: cannot find input file: win32/VC6/Makefile.in |
| 06:26.25 | silverfox | I see the automake/autoconf version has changed... do I need to use a different ./configure switch? |
| 06:26.34 | silverfox | I'm currerntly using `./configure --prefix=/usr/local/bzflag2.0.1` |
| 06:27.18 | durt | are you trying do compile from cvs? |
| 06:27.29 | silverfox | yes. |
| 06:28.19 | durt | i didnt need to use a prefix, so i dont know why you do |
| 06:28.32 | durt | did you run ./Autogen.sh? |
| 06:28.40 | silverfox | yes. |
| 06:29.07 | silverfox | well, ./autogen.sh rather. |
| 06:31.05 | blast007 | silverfox: the VC6 directory was deleted from CVS |
| 06:31.10 | silverfox | ah... |
| 06:31.36 | blast007 | so there is one line in configure that needs to be removed, and another reference to win32/VC6/Makefile.in as well |
| 06:31.37 | silverfox | is there a way to get cvs update to delete things locally that don't exist on the server? |
| 06:31.45 | silverfox | besides deleting everything before doing an update? |
| 06:32.01 | silverfox | ah, ok. |
| 06:32.05 | silverfox | thank you much. |
| 06:32.09 | blast007 | yup |
| 06:32.34 | blast007 | I can't get it to compile yet though..keeps running configure in a loop when I try to 'make' |
| 06:34.09 | durt | maybe try running as root or something - i dont know |
| 06:35.16 | durt | maybe update gcc |
| 06:36.12 | blast007 | yeah, that could be too...it's slackware 9.1 |
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| 06:51.32 | silverfox | blast007_away: any luck? I'm looping too. |
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| 07:03.10 | silverfox | blast007_away: got it now. |
| 07:03.20 | silverfox | did another cvs update, and it seems to have been fixed? |
| 07:03.48 | silverfox | so, texture downloads... is there a way to keep them from being downloaded EVERY time a user connects? |
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| 07:10.51 | trepan | the cache works fine on my setup, cvs fixes win |
| 07:10.59 | trepan | dunno about mac |
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| 07:14.30 | trepan | tex dls can also be DISABLED in the cache menu if the user finds it necessary |
| 07:16.29 | silverfox | trepan: so the desired behavior is to cache it, not download every time? |
| 07:16.52 | learner | trepan, you wouldn't happen to have already written a bzw yacc parser file? |
| 07:16.58 | learner | one of the few that come to mind that might have |
| 07:17.05 | trepan | yes, i only have a linux box to test on |
| 07:17.20 | trepan | hard enough to get folks to test their own stuff, let alone something they haven't written |
| 07:17.54 | trepan | learner: nope, sry |
| 07:18.14 | trepan | did take a look at it back in the bzmapper days ;) |
| 07:18.26 | learner | no problem, just making sure I'm not rewriting something that was out there already |
| 07:18.40 | learner | almost done with the scanner |
| 07:18.56 | trepan | got something for ya then |
| 07:19.33 | trepan | http://trepan.homelinux.net/b5.bzw |
| 07:19.58 | trepan | the intereseting part starts at the drawInfo keyword |
| 07:20.56 | learner | ahh, my |
| 07:21.04 | learner | sweet |
| 07:21.21 | learner | levels of detail |
| 07:23.11 | learner | hmm.. i could automatically output levels for tesselated models.. |
| 07:23.19 | learner | yeah, corner confused for a sec |
| 07:23.35 | trepan | and tristripped (or fanned, or quads, etc...) |
| 07:24.23 | learner | this stuff aint in bzw.5 I presume |
| 07:24.23 | trepan | you can also setup imposters quite easily, just use a different texture |
| 07:24.29 | trepan | heh, nope |
| 07:24.30 | learner | (haven't gotten that far yet if it is) |
| 07:24.44 | trepan | that's the first anyone else has seen of it ;) |
| 07:24.49 | learner | ahh :) |
| 07:25.30 | trepan | hehe, want a big one? http://trepan.homelinux.net/b9.bzw |
| 07:25.47 | learner | sure, good test for the converter |
| 07:26.16 | learner | does it support primitives for the lod too? |
| 07:26.20 | trepan | 10MB ascii, 130K tris... 9 lods |
| 07:26.22 | trepan | primitives? |
| 07:26.26 | learner | like if someone wanted to make it a box at 4/5/6 |
| 07:26.37 | trepan | no |
| 07:26.40 | learner | k |
| 07:26.43 | trepan | it's pure gl drawing calls |
| 07:27.25 | learner | which is getting slower.. the rest of you punks cut it out and wait :) |
| 07:27.42 | trepan | your also fighting with the p2p crowd |
| 07:27.53 | learner | that's a lot of punks |
| 07:27.59 | trepan | you can draw raw points and lines though, so that's new |
| 07:28.06 | learner | ahh, cool |
| 07:28.20 | trepan | and the 'angvel' works nicely |
| 07:28.45 | trepan | and the drawInfo data is shared amongst the group instances |
| 07:28.55 | learner | like every lod is a different map :) |
| 07:28.59 | trepan | (which is how I get to 100Mtris map without crashing) |
| 07:29.11 | trepan | learner: that's how you do imposters |
| 07:29.36 | trepan | had billboarding in my old version, handy for simple imposters |
| 07:30.48 | learner | hmm |
| 07:31.08 | learner | sort of, cept you would normally make an imposter that was still visually coherent |
| 07:31.28 | trepan | yup, the flexibility is there to do it |
| 07:32.09 | learner | i'm wondering more about faking mirage-style distances with random junk |
| 07:32.30 | learner | i mean you could even fake things like visibility/obscurance |
| 07:32.35 | learner | lots to play with :) |
| 07:33.53 | learner | how does length correspond to the levels? |
| 07:34.06 | learner | they seem too small to be linear map lengths in bz |
| 07:34.27 | trepan | it's the break-point edge length |
| 07:34.30 | learner | s/lengths/distances/ |
| 07:35.06 | trepan | it's also setup to have lodScale and radarLodScale as BZDB vars on the client |
| 07:36.26 | trepan | when you switch to the next lod... don't know the proper jargon |
| 07:36.30 | learner | at least how that relates to lod .. what edge is being broken? |
| 07:36.52 | learner | so it is some weighted distance/length from the observer |
| 07:37.20 | trepan | nope, it's a factor of the last edge decimated |
| 07:38.03 | trepan | that's also nice in that it can be tuned for the specific lod |
| 07:38.25 | trepan | (as opposed to a client-side algo) |
| 07:39.38 | learner | yes, that much I got for server-side, no/little prep |
| 07:40.13 | learner | though I still don't get that length :) |
| 07:40.36 | learner | i'll have to poke more when I get to that part in the converter |
| 07:41.15 | trepan | consider the longest edge length in that particular lod |
| 07:41.33 | learner | consider it considered |
| 07:41.37 | trepan | (although that isn't exactly how it has to be defined, esp. if you're factoring in mesh curvature) |
| 07:42.47 | trepan | wanted a parameter that made sense for both the viewport and the radar... |
| 07:43.30 | learner | so how does that longest edge relate to the length value? |
| 07:43.56 | trepan | it is the value, depending on the decimation algorithm |
| 07:44.00 | learner | when the edge length is projected longer than 'length' value? |
| 07:44.16 | trepan | or are you asking how it relates to the transition distances use for the lods? |
| 07:44.28 | learner | yes, the latter |
| 07:44.57 | trepan | ah, i used some pixel/meter fudge factors for viewport and radar that seemed reasonable |
| 07:45.05 | learner | ahhh |
| 07:45.10 | learner | so unrelated really |
| 07:45.39 | trepan | nah, i still consider it related, but i'm biased ;) |
| 07:45.47 | learner | heh |
| 07:46.01 | learner | the levels are fixed |
| 07:46.11 | learner | but the "quality" at each level is weighted by length |
| 07:46.17 | learner | sorta |
| 07:46.39 | trepan | ya, although that definition assumes the simplest form of decimation selection |
| 07:46.48 | trepan | (which you shouldn't really use) |
| 07:48.32 | learner | hmm.. so you still decimate the lod levels? instead of just dumping out what was provided? |
| 07:48.49 | trepan | decimate the original full mesh to get the lods |
| 07:49.12 | learner | ahh |
| 07:49.22 | trepan | lods are dumped out either by length criteria, tri count criteria, etc... |
| 07:49.51 | learner | does anything use the length when the file is read back in? |
| 07:50.07 | trepan | length is sent to the client... ? |
| 07:50.18 | trepan | it determines which lod is rendered |
| 07:50.55 | learner | okay, it's coming together in my head slowly i suppose :) |
| 07:51.00 | learner | I think I get it now |
| 07:51.02 | trepan | could just have easily been a 'distance from eye' parameter |
| 07:51.13 | trepan | but that made little sense w.r.t. the radar scale |
| 07:51.42 | learner | isn't "distance from eye" a linear value even on the radar? :) |
| 07:51.52 | trepan | and it also depends on the viewport settings, pixels and fov |
| 07:52.10 | learner | sure |
| 07:52.17 | trepan | radar is ortho, doesn't really apply |
| 07:52.38 | trepan | so 'distance from eye' also didn't quite fit the bill |
| 07:52.44 | learner | o.O |
| 07:53.50 | trepan | (that last comment being made against the 'pixels and fov' note =) |
| 07:55.33 | learner | ah, but the distance from eye could still be projected onto the radar as some weighted orthogonal distance |
| 07:55.43 | trepan | because you can use a crappier lod for low-res viewports |
| 07:55.45 | learner | and used very similar to the "length" |
| 07:56.04 | learner | and viewports zoomed way out, etc |
| 07:56.52 | trepan | and hence the source of the nomenclature |
| 07:57.46 | trepan | ya, could pick from a few different ways to view it, and map between them, i chose to view it as a pixel to edge factor (length) problem |
| 07:58.51 | trepan | final analysis: it works fairly well ;) |
| 07:59.06 | learner | prolly as good as anything really, just slightly unexpected in the file :) |
| 07:59.50 | trepan | had to have some sort of measure for the lods |
| 08:00.01 | learner | since it's pseudo hidden knowledge of what numbers to pick without a little trial and error or something decimating for you |
| 08:01.11 | learner | yet i know how big the map is, easy to think "when it's bigger than this, use this one" (at least to me) |
| 08:01.22 | learner | not a deal either way really |
| 08:01.36 | learner | i'll just have to figure it out on export :) |
| 08:01.48 | trepan | bigger then this? this what, pixel count? |
| 08:01.49 | learner | since I can dump various lods too |
| 08:02.30 | learner | some linear value in relation to map-space distances |
| 08:02.51 | learner | 3d distance |
| 08:03.19 | learner | that you'd then have to translate in the code to what that means for actual level selection for both viewports |
| 08:03.30 | trepan | but what really counts is how it's rendered into pixels, which doesn't necessarily map direct into a specific distance depending on fov |
| 08:03.35 | learner | transform, unitize, scale it, etc |
| 08:04.05 | learner | it doesn't map direct, sure -- not a map distance |
| 08:04.37 | trepan | then what distance? |
| 08:04.43 | learner | there it could be reprojected/transformed into a different length based on zoom no? |
| 08:05.09 | learner | that would give you pixels length at worst |
| 08:05.28 | trepan | so it's back to mapping it into pixels one way or the other i guess |
| 08:05.54 | learner | yeah, same end result |
| 08:06.22 | learner | if programs are the only things dumping out these numbers though, it won't really matter |
| 08:06.40 | learner | it'd just matter for someone hand-crafting maybe |
| 08:06.59 | trepan | in which case ya tell 'em that it's all relative ;) |
| 08:07.22 | trepan | it's now 6 apples high, make it 8 |
| 08:07.32 | learner | :) |
| 08:09.46 | trepan | p.s. used iostream for parsing, takes 2 secs to parse b9.bzw (only 10MB) |
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| 08:21.43 | learner | hmm, that's not bad.. |
| 08:21.54 | learner | 2 secs |
| 08:22.32 | learner | it's taking 1.3 secs for the scanner to identify all the tokens |
| 08:22.36 | learner | here |
| 08:26.42 | learner | Numbers: 902341 |
| 08:26.43 | learner | Symbols: 264781 |
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| 13:28.58 | geoffrey | hi |
| 13:29.01 | geoffrey | UGM 'ere |
| 13:29.02 | Gnurdux | darn it, BZ froze yesterday and now nothing with GL works |
| 13:29.21 | Gnurdux | i really should get a new videocare |
| 13:29.26 | Gnurdux | *videocard |
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| 13:47.36 | geoffrey | how do you make IE obey the CSS psuedo class :hover? |
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| 14:25.07 | geoffrey | hi bearperson |
| 14:26.17 | BearPerson | hi UGM :-) |
| 14:28.19 | geoffrey | i need to recompile PHP :( |
| 14:32.12 | geoffrey | too lazy to :P |
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| 14:43.44 | BearPerson | recompile php: "cast -c php" ;-) |
| 14:43.51 | geoffrey | :P |
| 14:44.08 | geoffrey | what I need to do is change a hell of a lot of configure settings :p |
| 14:49.30 | ruskie | big deal |
| 14:49.39 | ruskie | source mage saves any custom configure options |
| 14:49.45 | ruskie | :) |
| 14:50.00 | ruskie | not a big deal to change them all :) |
| 14:50.48 | BearPerson | it even hands you the output of ./configure --help as comments so you can pick what you need :-) |
| 14:51.38 | ruskie | :) |
| 15:10.48 | menotume | purple_cow: ping |
| 15:22.40 | learner | could just blank em out in the meantime :) |
| 15:23.30 | menotume | lol |
| 15:23.34 | menotume | no rush :) |
| 15:24.22 | learner | put a lil "porno swirl" over them like you're not suppsed to know what's there |
| 15:26.21 | learner | and there's an "eventteam" that's not listed under the spec for weapons |
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| 16:19.12 | RPG_ | hey |
| 16:19.28 | RPG_ | would a debug of a BZFS crash be of any use? |
| 16:19.45 | RPG_ | all it shows is a memory disassembly and the call stack |
| 16:19.53 | RPG_ | no filenames or line numbers |
| 16:21.11 | RPG_ | actualy, there are line numbers and files here |
| 16:21.12 | RPG_ | i'll go post this |
| 16:27.19 | JeffM2501 | what made it crash? |
| 16:27.34 | RPG_ | loading a plugin with the full path, instead of just the filename |
| 16:27.43 | RPG_ | path such as G:\Programs\bzflagh |
| 16:27.48 | JeffM2501 | but what made it crash |
| 16:28.00 | JeffM2501 | where did it crash and what was bad that made it a crash |
| 16:28.28 | RPG_ | hhm |
| 16:28.45 | RPG_ | i saved the debug log, but it won't show me anything when i open it |
| 16:29.13 | JeffM2501 | did it throw a break when you run in the debuger |
| 16:29.19 | JeffM2501 | logs are basicly useless |
| 16:29.19 | RPG_ | what do you do to save debugs? |
| 16:29.32 | JeffM2501 | did you run it in the debuger? |
| 16:29.33 | RPG_ | it had a yellow arrow, and a message that said someting about a read error |
| 16:29.36 | RPG_ | yes |
| 16:29.54 | JeffM2501 | ok did it stop and show you the code where it crashed? |
| 16:30.01 | RPG_ | yes |
| 16:30.05 | JeffM2501 | go back up the call stack |
| 16:30.10 | RPG_ | it wasn't a BZFlag source file |
| 16:30.18 | RPG_ | i don't have the debug anymore |
| 16:30.18 | JeffM2501 | find out what paramater is invalid that is causing the crash |
| 16:30.27 | JeffM2501 | you don't need the stupid debug log |
| 16:30.34 | JeffM2501 | just rerun it in the debuger |
| 16:30.37 | RPG_ | ok |
| 16:30.38 | JeffM2501 | with the same conditions |
| 16:30.45 | JeffM2501 | does that re-crash it? |
| 16:31.40 | RPG_ | yep |
| 16:31.42 | RPG_ | Unhandled exception at 0x010ba209 (racetoseven.dll) in bzfs.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation reading location 0x00000014 |
| 16:31.51 | RPG_ | looks pretty close to my plugin |
| 16:32.05 | JeffM2501 | that is in your plugin |
| 16:32.13 | JeffM2501 | go back up the callstack |
| 16:32.19 | JeffM2501 | till you see what function |
| 16:32.55 | RPG_ | the very first entry in the call stack dialog box took me to a file called "xstring" |
| 16:32.58 | RPG_ | LINE 1322 |
| 16:33.27 | blast007_away | iirc, that's just a compiler header file |
| 16:33.46 | JeffM2501 | keep going back up till you see one of YOUR files |
| 16:34.06 | RPG_ | i'm as far up as I can go |
| 16:34.16 | RPG_ | I can go down, I see my files htere |
| 16:34.34 | JeffM2501 | then put a breakpoint at the start of your plugin, in the init and see if you get there |
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| 16:38.07 | RPG_ | aha |
| 16:38.48 | RPG_ | narrowed it down to one of my functiosn |
| 16:39.56 | RPG_ | if it can't find the config file, it tries to read form it anyways |
| 16:43.31 | blast007 | ah, cuz it is looking in the current working directory (it doesn't make use of the full path) |
| 16:43.39 | RPG_ | yep |
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| 16:56.24 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, you should make it see if the read failed |
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| 17:34.54 | Eragon | hi |
| 17:35.06 | Eragon | i'm making a map |
| 17:35.26 | Eragon | and i don't know how to choose which flags go where |
| 17:35.38 | Eragon | can any 1 help??? |
| 17:36.13 | Eragon | can you help??? |
| 17:36.16 | ToughShooter | Zones |
| 17:36.30 | Eragon | what?? |
| 17:36.42 | Eragon | how do i make a zone |
| 17:37.20 | blast007 | by reading this: http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzw.5s |
| 17:37.32 | Eragon | k thnx |
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| 17:39.00 | RPG_ | char buffer[1024]; |
| 17:39.04 | RPG_ | std::vector<std::string> lines = TextUtils::tokenize(buffer, "\n"); |
| 17:39.09 | RPG_ | would that line be valid? |
| 17:39.12 | ToughShooter | The online versions of man pages are good hidden :/ |
| 17:39.14 | RPG_ | turing a char into an std::string? |
| 17:41.05 | blast007 | RPG_: did you try it? |
| 17:41.14 | RPG_ | yes |
| 17:41.22 | RPG_ | it compiled, but that entir eporting of code is all buggy |
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| 17:41.28 | RPG_ | entire portion |
| 17:42.28 | blast007 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:43.38 | RPG_ | how would I turn that char into an std::string? |
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| 17:47.28 | meacan | howdy |
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| 17:47.39 | RPG_ | oops |
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| 17:53.24 | JeffM2501 | just fyi everyone, I'm removing any team or server foum that hasn't been used in 6 months |
| 17:53.38 | RPG_ | cool |
| 17:54.10 | JeffM2501 | many of them are over a year old |
| 17:55.38 | RPG_ | How do you convert a char to a std::string? |
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| 17:55.40 | JeffM2501 | Birdie, is your "tib" thing still needed |
| 17:55.55 | Eragon | sry dudes i don't understand that link u gave me |
| 17:56.06 | Eragon | where do i type that stuff |
| 17:56.07 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, make one and pass the char * as the constructor |
| 17:56.17 | Eragon | me?? |
| 17:56.21 | blast007 | Eragon: are you making the map in BZEdit? |
| 17:56.22 | Birdie | JeffM2501: actually i dont know |
| 17:56.26 | Eragon | yes |
| 17:56.31 | blast007 | well, you can't do it in there |
| 17:56.34 | JeffM2501 | Birdie, it's not been used since jan |
| 17:56.35 | Eragon | oh |
| 17:56.38 | Birdie | i'll talk to baron2 |
| 17:56.40 | blast007 | you have to edit it in a text editor |
| 17:56.46 | JeffM2501 | and it's got like 3 psots |
| 17:56.49 | blast007 | bzedit can't do any of the new 2.0.x features |
| 17:56.57 | Eragon | oh |
| 17:57.01 | JeffM2501 | Birdie, I'm gonna pull it and if you all need it again, I'll remake it |
| 17:57.13 | Birdie | ok |
| 17:57.19 | Eragon | is notepad a text editor?? |
| 17:57.23 | blast007 | yeah |
| 17:57.26 | Birdie | i understand, you have to much and since its not used since long.. |
| 17:57.29 | Eragon | k |
| 17:57.36 | JeffM2501 | and the 3 posts were basicly "hi", "this is a forum" and "why is the team inactive" :) |
| 17:57.55 | Birdie | lol |
| 17:58.02 | Birdie | well it didnt gave what we thought:) |
| 17:58.21 | Eragon | how do i make notepad work with bzflag it just shows what u type |
| 17:58.33 | JeffM2501 | learner, bzrebels, not used since 2003, it's geting yanked |
| 17:58.34 | RPG_ | Eragon: type out your map |
| 17:58.44 | JeffM2501 | Eragon, maps are just text |
| 17:58.46 | Eragon | what??? |
| 17:58.49 | JeffM2501 | open a map |
| 17:58.53 | Eragon | ?? |
| 17:58.55 | JeffM2501 | in the text editor |
| 17:58.58 | JeffM2501 | it's just text |
| 17:58.59 | Eragon | i made a map on bzedit |
| 17:59.01 | RPG_ | Open a bzflag map in notepad |
| 17:59.04 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 17:59.05 | RPG_ | cool |
| 17:59.10 | Eragon | i don't know any text about it |
| 17:59.12 | JeffM2501 | and bzedit just wrote out a text file |
| 17:59.21 | JeffM2501 | if you open that map file in notepad you'll see text |
| 17:59.28 | JeffM2501 | bzedit was just a prety way to make maps |
| 17:59.31 | JeffM2501 | but not the only way |
| 17:59.35 | Eragon | k i'll try |
| 17:59.41 | JeffM2501 | our map format is human readable text |
| 17:59.52 | JeffM2501 | for the 2.0 features you'll have to edit those in as text by hand |
| 17:59.58 | JeffM2501 | I sugest you read the map format docs |
| 18:00.03 | JeffM2501 | so you know what to type |
| 18:00.13 | blast007 | yup, he has those |
| 18:00.18 | Eragon | i have no idea what to type |
| 18:00.29 | JeffM2501 | that is why you need to READ the docs |
| 18:00.31 | blast007 | Eragon: look for the 'zone object' in those docs |
| 18:00.38 | Eragon | i did |
| 18:00.40 | JeffM2501 | have and understand are 2 totaly difrent concepts |
| 18:00.50 | Eragon | i don't know how to use notepad |
| 18:00.53 | JeffM2501 | then find the object in the docs that you want, and do what it says |
| 18:00.55 | Eragon | for bzflag |
| 18:01.04 | blast007 | you just _type_ stuff |
| 18:01.04 | JeffM2501 | Eragon, the same way you use it for anything else |
| 18:01.09 | JeffM2501 | file -> open.. .pick file |
| 18:01.22 | Eragon | how do i put things on note pad on my map?? |
| 18:01.23 | blast007 | or heck, drag and drop the file into notepad |
| 18:01.34 | JeffM2501 | Eragon, well step 1 is to listen to us |
| 18:01.40 | JeffM2501 | and not just ask the same thing over and over |
| 18:01.43 | JeffM2501 | open notepad |
| 18:01.45 | JeffM2501 | file |
| 18:01.47 | JeffM2501 | open |
| 18:01.58 | JeffM2501 | pick "all files *.*" |
| 18:02.00 | JeffM2501 | pick your map |
| 18:02.06 | JeffM2501 | then add new objects to your map |
| 18:02.13 | JeffM2501 | you'll see all your existing objects in there |
| 18:02.16 | JeffM2501 | as text blocks |
| 18:02.20 | JeffM2501 | stuff like "box" |
| 18:02.24 | JeffM2501 | and "pyramid" |
| 18:02.34 | Eragon | k |
| 18:02.35 | JeffM2501 | you add a new one called "zone" like it shows in the docs |
| 18:02.42 | JeffM2501 | then just save it and use it |
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| 18:03.13 | Eragon | just a sec |
| 18:03.14 | JeffM2501 | is the camleot server still around? |
| 18:03.45 | RPG_ | norang runs all of loumans' maps |
| 18:03.57 | RPG_ | i think it ran camleot too |
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| 18:04.14 | Eragon | sry pc messed up |
| 18:04.17 | JeffM2501 | is there still an active server called camelot that is run by sir lancealot? |
| 18:04.20 | JeffM2501 | he had a forum |
| 18:04.25 | JeffM2501 | hasn't been used since feb |
| 18:05.20 | blast007 | only server running "Camelot" is bzflag.norang.ca:5165 - Camelot by LouMan |
| 18:05.25 | Eragon | i saved my map but i can't get to it from notepad |
| 18:05.31 | Eragon | i did what you said |
| 18:05.42 | Eragon | file open |
| 18:05.45 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, what the hell are you talking about wiht the more then 8 players on XP thing? |
| 18:06.00 | RPG_ | that windows bug, with the EGAIINN |
| 18:06.06 | JeffM2501 | what windows bug? |
| 18:06.07 | RPG_ | happens to all windows users |
| 18:06.13 | blast007 | Eragon: change "Type of files" to "All Files" |
| 18:06.17 | JeffM2501 | where is the report? |
| 18:06.17 | Eragon | then i went to where i saved it it wasnb't there |
| 18:06.17 | blast007 | in the File > Open window |
| 18:06.22 | Eragon | ok |
| 18:06.28 | RPG_ | i was told long ago that it was the "Windows bug" |
| 18:06.47 | JBdiGriz | It's not "what windows bug?" it's "which windows bug?" |
| 18:07.01 | RPG_ | heh |
| 18:07.03 | Eragon | ohhh thnx it worked!! |
| 18:07.10 | JeffM2501 | I am unware of any specific 8 player limit problem on windows |
| 18:07.23 | JeffM2501 | please do not go saying stuff like "the only way is to install linux" |
| 18:07.27 | RPG_ | ok |
| 18:07.30 | JeffM2501 | you are not qualified to make those statemenst |
| 18:07.34 | Eragon | can you give me that link again |
| 18:07.38 | RPG_ | it's not specific to anything, it just happens at random times |
| 18:07.45 | blast007 | http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzw.5s |
| 18:07.50 | Eragon | to where it says how to put flags on map |
| 18:07.52 | Eragon | thnx |
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| 18:08.01 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, then how the hell do you know it's the problem he's having |
| 18:08.10 | JeffM2501 | now all you did was start a nother OS flame war |
| 18:08.15 | RPG_ | i did? |
| 18:08.21 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:08.29 | JeffM2501 | it allways degenerates to the OSX kiddies |
| 18:08.48 | JBdiGriz | That's "Unix kiddies" to you |
| 18:09.29 | RPG_ | there's always been that EAGAIN error on windows |
| 18:09.38 | RPG_ | nobody's ever looked into it |
| 18:09.40 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure ther ehas |
| 18:09.48 | JeffM2501 | becuase NOONE REPORTS IT |
| 18:10.03 | JeffM2501 | JBdiGriz, they wish |
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| 18:14.43 | JeffM2501 | I'm betting it's an XP home limitation |
| 18:14.58 | JeffM2501 | I belive they limit the number of open connections |
| 18:15.12 | JeffM2501 | a reg change can open it up |
| 18:15.17 | RPG_ | i wonder what their reason behind that would be |
| 18:15.29 | JBdiGriz | to sell XP server |
| 18:15.29 | Eragon | k i put zone = flag ("good" <_wings>) is that correct?? |
| 18:15.30 | JeffM2501 | helps protect against atacks |
| 18:16.02 | Eragon | did i do the |
| 18:16.07 | JeffM2501 | if you get a bug on ya that opens a ton of connections, it craps out at the driver level rather then taking over 100's of connections |
| 18:16.11 | Eragon | zone thing corect |
| 18:16.24 | JeffM2501 | for most users a small number of connections is fine |
| 18:16.36 | JeffM2501 | and most windows users are uniformned to know what connections are |
| 18:16.45 | JeffM2501 | so it makes sense to trim em down |
| 18:17.08 | Eragon | i put zone = flag ("good" <_wings>) |
| 18:17.21 | Eragon | what did i do wrong?? |
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| 18:17.37 | JeffM2501 | you just put one line? |
| 18:17.41 | JBdiGriz | If you "get a bug on ya", you've lost the battle. The attacker can do anything he wants with your machine. |
| 18:17.44 | Eragon | yeah |
| 18:17.53 | Eragon | i donno how to the rest |
| 18:17.54 | JeffM2501 | JBdiGriz, true on any OS |
| 18:18.04 | Eragon | i don't understand the rest |
| 18:18.06 | JeffM2501 | but limiting it in the OS/driver level can help |
| 18:18.09 | JeffM2501 | at least make it harder |
| 18:18.16 | JeffM2501 | it was a choice they made |
| 18:18.18 | JeffM2501 | I see logic in it |
| 18:18.31 | blast007 | JeffM2501: SP2 sets stricter limits on the connections, even in XP Pro iirc |
| 18:18.32 | JeffM2501 | it's not bad it just is |
| 18:18.43 | JeffM2501 | blast007, by default, yeah |
| 18:18.49 | RPG_ | but it's changeable? |
| 18:18.52 | blast007 | still the reg hack |
| 18:19.01 | JeffM2501 | yeah you can edit the registry and change it |
| 18:19.21 | JeffM2501 | same as you can edit configs on other OSs to change system settings |
| 18:19.26 | JBdiGriz | I'm not sure what you are helping. It can check the limits, and just kill off other programs to get a connection. You can limit the spread until it finds a computer with a trusted connection to a server. |
| 18:19.44 | JeffM2501 | JBdiGriz, it dosn't mater |
| 18:19.50 | JBdiGriz | The attacking program could also edit the registry and open you up to whatever it wants. |
| 18:19.55 | JeffM2501 | it still is a thing out there that people will hit |
| 18:20.02 | JeffM2501 | so it's moot |
| 18:20.11 | RPG_ | its a shoddy attempt at basic hackers |
| 18:20.30 | JeffM2501 | god I hate humans somtimes |
| 18:20.41 | blast007 | SP2 also killed nmap for a while... |
| 18:20.54 | JBdiGriz | Making the OS less hackable is what matters. Limiting the connections doesn't do anything. |
| 18:20.55 | RPG_ | purposely |
| 18:20.59 | Eragon | k i did zone =flag ("good" <_wings>) |
| 18:21.15 | JeffM2501 | Eragon, is that the format the manual page shows you for a zone? |
| 18:21.17 | Eragon | location 1,2,0 |
| 18:21.26 | Eragon | what?? |
| 18:21.33 | JeffM2501 | did you READ the bzw manual page? |
| 18:21.35 | Eragon | sorta |
| 18:21.36 | blast007 | wow..that's like totally wrong |
| 18:21.37 | Eragon | yes |
| 18:21.40 | JeffM2501 | so that would be a NO |
| 18:21.43 | JeffM2501 | read the manual |
| 18:21.47 | JeffM2501 | see what it says to put |
| 18:21.56 | JeffM2501 | you can't just make stuff up and put it in the map |
| 18:21.59 | JeffM2501 | it has to be a specific format |
| 18:22.01 | Eragon | i didn't understand |
| 18:22.01 | JeffM2501 | go READ |
| 18:22.06 | JeffM2501 | then read it again |
| 18:22.09 | JeffM2501 | understand |
| 18:22.20 | Eragon | what is the {0....* |
| 18:22.28 | blast007 | things that start with # are comments, fyi |
| 18:22.49 | Eragon | it dosen't have a # |
| 18:22.57 | Eragon | i gtg |
| 18:22.59 | JeffM2501 | the manual page has a freaking sample |
| 18:23.03 | JeffM2501 | just read the page |
| 18:23.04 | Eragon | brb in 10 min |
| 18:23.07 | JeffM2501 | don't take shortcuts |
| 18:23.07 | RPG_ | is this acceptable? buffer is "char buffer[1024]" |
| 18:23.08 | RPG_ | std::string stdbuffer = buffer; |
| 18:23.08 | blast007 | the zone object has comments |
| 18:23.09 | Eragon | i did |
| 18:23.17 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, sure |
| 18:23.32 | JeffM2501 | Eragon, I don't belive you |
| 18:23.41 | JeffM2501 | since the sample has things like "postion" |
| 18:23.54 | JeffM2501 | and complete comments on what each line means |
| 18:24.05 | JeffM2501 | that start with # |
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| 18:43.22 | RPG_ | once again: how could I make this line work? It appears the std::string line[0] isn't being compared properly to "//" |
| 18:43.22 | RPG_ | if(strcmp(line[0].c_str(), "//") == 0) |
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| 18:43.49 | RPG_ | when line[0] == "//", it doesn't set off strcmp |
| 18:48.05 | blast007 | are you wanting to find //, or just / ? |
| 18:48.17 | RPG_ | that's just an example |
| 18:48.24 | RPG_ | here's one of the importatn linse: |
| 18:48.32 | RPG_ | if(strcmp(line[0].c_str(), "-capNum") == 0) |
| 18:48.46 | Chestal | what is line? |
| 18:48.56 | RPG_ | line is a std::vector of std::strings |
| 18:49.19 | RPG_ | line[0] contans the first part of the line before the first whitespace |
| 18:49.26 | RPG_ | as in: -capNum 5 |
| 18:49.30 | Chestal | well, that should work. Easier to just do line[0] == "-capNum" though |
| 18:49.46 | RPG_ | duh! |
| 18:50.00 | RPG_ | I was too busy copying the BZFlag parsing code to think of that |
| 18:50.02 | Tupone | ~dict transpearnt |
| 18:50.32 | Tupone | ~spell transpearnt |
| 18:50.32 | Chestal | the strcmp verion is more complicated than it neds to be, but should be equivalent |
| 18:51.04 | RPG_ | ~dict transparent |
| 18:51.06 | trepan | strcasecmp might be better (case insensitive) |
| 18:52.08 | JeffM2501 | he dosn't have casecmp |
| 18:52.18 | JeffM2501 | oh well he may |
| 18:52.23 | RPG_ | i don't |
| 18:52.28 | JeffM2501 | if he includes textutils |
| 18:52.34 | JeffM2501 | windows dosn't have strcasecmp |
| 18:52.37 | JeffM2501 | we have stricmp |
| 18:52.42 | JeffM2501 | but bz will #def it for youy |
| 18:52.49 | JeffM2501 | just make sure you include textutils |
| 18:52.50 | RPG_ | that's what it did |
| 18:53.02 | JeffM2501 | k then you do have it |
| 18:53.19 | RPG_ | if(line[0] == "-capNum"){ |
| 18:53.23 | RPG_ | should work fine though |
| 18:53.40 | JeffM2501 | not if you type -CapNum |
| 18:53.42 | JeffM2501 | or capnum |
| 18:53.50 | RPG_ | but if(line[0] == "-capNum"){ doens' twork |
| 18:53.52 | JeffM2501 | == is case sensitve |
| 18:54.01 | JeffM2501 | what is in line[0] ? |
| 18:54.01 | RPG_ | right now, i'm jsut happy if somethign works |
| 18:54.06 | RPG_ | std:;string |
| 18:54.18 | JeffM2501 | no, what is IN it |
| 18:54.22 | blast007 | so line[0] is "-capNum 5 |
| 18:54.23 | blast007 | " |
| 18:54.25 | RPG_ | -capNum |
| 18:54.39 | RPG_ | std::vector<std::string> line = TextUtils::tokenize(stdbuffer, " "); |
| 18:54.39 | RPG_ | that splits the line according to whitespaces |
| 18:54.39 | JeffM2501 | why would -capNum5 == -capNum? |
| 18:54.47 | JeffM2501 | LOOK in the data |
| 18:54.50 | JeffM2501 | see what is there |
| 18:54.54 | JeffM2501 | use the debuger |
| 18:54.56 | JeffM2501 | don't guess |
| 18:55.27 | JeffM2501 | there is a reason it has the ability to show you the contents of any variable |
| 18:55.33 | blast007 | RPG_: up above you said it was "-capNum 5", or is it just "-capNum"? |
| 18:55.52 | JeffM2501 | wiht == it has to be exact |
| 18:56.06 | RPG_ | line[0] == "-capNum" |
| 18:56.11 | RPG_ | line[1] == "5" |
| 18:56.15 | blast007 | k |
| 18:56.18 | JeffM2501 | then it would work |
| 18:56.28 | JeffM2501 | step thru the code in the debuger |
| 18:56.32 | JeffM2501 | see what it does as it's running |
| 18:56.37 | RPG_ | how do you debug a DLL? |
| 18:56.44 | JeffM2501 | same way you debug anything else |
| 18:56.54 | JeffM2501 | go to project properties |
| 18:57.01 | JeffM2501 | set the debug executable to be bzfs |
| 18:57.11 | JeffM2501 | then put in your command line options ( like -loadplugin yourplugin) |
| 18:57.19 | JeffM2501 | then set the working dir |
| 18:57.33 | JeffM2501 | then set your breakpoint ( f9 ) |
| 18:57.34 | RPG_ | thx |
| 18:57.41 | JeffM2501 | then it F5 to debug |
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| 18:59.46 | RPG_ | +stdbuffer{"-capNum 5"} |
| 19:00.04 | RPG_ | are the {" and "} in cluded in the string? |
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| 19:01.31 | RPG_ | _Myfirst0x00c65c00 {"-capNum"} |
| 19:01.33 | RPG_ | there's the var |
| 19:01.45 | RPG_ | squiggily brackets and all |
| 19:02.33 | Chestal | which of the two lines you pasted applies to what? |
| 19:02.48 | RPG_ | stdbuffer was the entire line |
| 19:03.01 | RPG_ | _MyFirst i believe is line[0] |
| 19:04.25 | RPG_ | well that was interesting |
| 19:04.27 | RPG_ | time to get some fresh air |
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| 19:08.51 | bz0571 | hi |
| 19:08.58 | bz0571 | whoa |
| 19:09.06 | bz0571 | i need that link again |
| 19:09.11 | bz0571 | i'm Eragon |
| 19:09.21 | bz0571 | thing messed up |
| 19:09.27 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ChangeLog: Fixing spelling and 80 columns limit |
| 19:09.37 | bz0571 | what??? |
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| 19:27.23 | menotume | 80 column limit ? |
| 19:27.58 | Tupone | on Changelog |
| 19:28.05 | menotume | ahhh :) |
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| 19:39.46 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/ChangeLog: my changes |
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| 21:21.40 | I_Died_Once | Greetings from Planet MoFo |
| 21:22.33 | I_Died_Once | How is you peeps be doing, yo? |
| 21:23.23 | I_Died_Once | you guys talking all at once is going to crash the channel... |
| 21:24.46 | Tupone | -> #bzchat for bzchatting. see Topics |
| 21:24.53 | PKMOBILE | once clearly wasnt enough |
| 21:25.37 | trepan | Tupone: forgot to mention, thx for the reversion |
| 21:27.06 | Tupone | hehe. I was doing another change, too, using permission to show /? allowed command. But I reverted, awaiting for the end of week. Someone said he thought to release this week end |
| 21:28.08 | trepan | works for me, i've got no pressing need to add anything new |
| 21:29.22 | Tupone | I don't know how much testing it had, but I can and should delay most of the changes as a lot of them would break compatibility |
| 21:29.32 | jomojo | fyi in the cvs as of last night |
| 21:29.37 | I_Died_Once | If I fart, and no one is there to smell it, does it still stink? |
| 21:29.51 | jomojo | the /shutdown server command |
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| 21:30.07 | jomojo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:30.18 | I_Died_Once | it was changed to /shutdownserver |
| 21:30.21 | I_Died_Once | i do believe |
| 21:30.22 | jomojo | you have to type it as one word now or it won't work |
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| 21:30.31 | Ice_Wewe | h iall |
| 21:30.33 | Ice_Wewe | hi all |
| 21:30.35 | I_Died_Once | yo Ice |
| 21:30.46 | jomojo | I don't see a reason for it |
| 21:30.46 | Ice_Wewe | hey |
| 21:30.51 | blast007 | jomojo: didn't you always have to type it as one word? |
| 21:30.55 | jomojo | no |
| 21:31.09 | jomojo | in fact until cvs i could type only /shutdown and it would work |
| 21:31.17 | jomojo | or /shutdown server |
| 21:31.30 | blast007 | well, the real command is /shutdownserver |
| 21:31.30 | I_Died_Once | I like /shut the **** down!!! |
| 21:31.44 | I_Died_Once | or /dieserverdie |
| 21:31.45 | jomojo | well that's just no fun |
| 21:31.45 | blast007 | but it worked as /shutdown too |
| 21:31.51 | jomojo | at all |
| 21:32.04 | I_Died_Once | A bullet in the motherboard usually does the trick |
| 21:32.16 | blast007 | it doesn't check for extra pararmaters, so you have have done "/shutdown internet" |
| 21:32.24 | I_Died_Once | its hard to restart it after that, though... |
| 21:33.10 | Ice_Wewe | rofl |
| 21:33.33 | trepan | ah: } else if (strncasecmp(message + 1, "shutdownserver", 8) == 0) { |
| 21:33.41 | trepan | commands.cxx, tag 2.0.2 |
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| 21:33.51 | blast007 | yup |
| 21:34.32 | Tupone | /shutdow* is ok? |
| 21:34.55 | bryjen | somebody probably copy-pasted and didn't change the 8 |
| 21:35.25 | trepan | well, might as well just go with shutdown now, as Tupone had it |
| 21:35.35 | I_Died_Once | So which one of you guys is going to host Planet MoFo for me if a hurricane strikes Savannah, Ga? |
| 21:35.58 | trepan | but with modified man page, and auto-completer |
| 21:36.28 | Ice_Wewe | PKMOBILE: you have way to much of a hangover if you think its not fridau |
| 21:36.31 | Ice_Wewe | friday* |
| 21:36.32 | Ice_Wewe | bbl |
| 21:41.04 | Tupone | /shutdownserver is the one used in the 2.0.2 (autocompleter, man pages) so I don't think we can change. /shutdown was a bug. Now you can do the same with /shutd* . I don't think we need to change anything now |
| 21:43.02 | I_Died_Once | how about /shutdownOrIAmGoingToPopACapInYourAss |
| 21:43.20 | blast007 | I_Died_Once: do you have something useful to say? |
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| 21:50.24 | luca_ | hi |
| 21:50.32 | I_Died_Once | Hello luca |
| 21:50.37 | I_Died_Once | How they hangin' ? |
| 21:51.01 | luca_ | blast007: I don't remember very well but I think I've talked to you a couple of days ago |
| 21:51.11 | I_Died_Once | DTR - are you alive or what?? |
| 21:51.16 | blast007 | yeah, think so |
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| 21:51.30 | orchid | heh |
| 21:51.46 | trepan | huh? |
| 21:52.07 | luca_ | blast007: I'm still having the problem, and I'm still trying to fix it |
| 21:52.17 | I_Died_Once | I posted some infor valgrind gave me when MoFO last crashed |
| 21:52.43 | blast007 | luca_: were you the one were your shots didn't kill other players? |
| 21:52.44 | luca_ | blast007: I deactivated UDP and I have the exact same problem, so I guess is not an UDP problem (as I thought it was) |
| 21:52.47 | blast007 | where* |
| 21:52.53 | luca_ | blast007: yeah |
| 21:53.29 | luca_ | blast007: I'm running out of ideas, so here I'm back looking for some more pointers =) |
| 21:53.54 | luca_ | blast007: did you was the one who know about the bzflag protocol? |
| 21:53.56 | I_Died_Once | what is your issue. luca? |
| 21:54.34 | blast007 | I_Died_Once: their bullets go through other tanks |
| 21:54.42 | blast007 | even on a server hosted inside their LAN |
| 21:55.02 | blast007 | luca_: have you tried building from the latest CVS? |
| 21:55.06 | I_Died_Once | Did you get your install of bzflag from a reputable source? |
| 21:55.16 | luca_ | I_Died_Once: even more, people outside my LAN can play without problems in my server |
| 21:55.24 | luca_ | I_Died_Once: debian |
| 21:55.31 | blast007 | is it 2.0.2? |
| 21:55.57 | blast007 | iirc, the 2.0.2 from debian was build with GCC4, which had an issue |
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| 21:56.38 | luca_ | blast007: yes, and I haven't build it from the sources yet |
| 21:56.50 | blast007 | so one option is to build 2.0.2 with GCC3, or build CVS with GCC4 |
| 21:57.05 | luca_ | blast007: because I know people using the same packages and playing in my server outside the LAN :S |
| 21:57.48 | blast007 | if you do a /lagstats in game, it might show a really odd +/- value |
| 21:58.49 | blast007 | (for you, that is) |
| 22:04.11 | luca_ | blast007: where do I type this? in the server or client? |
| 22:04.19 | DTRemenak | I_Died_Once, alive? why would I be alive? |
| 22:04.41 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * 10bzflag/misc/ (bzfquery.php bzfquery_example.php): Function to query a bzflag server using PHP, supports 2.0.x and 1.10.x servers, include simple example |
| 22:05.12 | luca_ | BTW, I can play in my LAN with another PC (debian testing, I'm using debian unstable, so maybe is that issue about 2.0.2 + gcc4) |
| 22:08.11 | luca_ | nop, guess not, testing and unstables package are exactly the same (chequed the md5sum) |
| 22:08.18 | luca_ | *checked |
| 22:08.52 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/plugins/RogueGenocide/RogueGenocide.cpp: player id's are not necessarily contiguous |
| 22:08.53 | blast007 | I would still try building from CVS |
| 22:09.36 | Chestal | luca: probably different CPUs or something |
| 22:09.38 | DTRemenak | I_Died_Once, that *might* fix it. |
| 22:09.53 | Chestal | whatever, the Debian version with gcc4 is buggy |
| 22:10.26 | Chestal | more precisely, the older versions are buggy, too, it just doesn't show |
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| 22:11.32 | luca_ | blast007: ok, i'll build the CVS version... |
| 22:11.55 | luca_ | anyways, I can't understand how it stoped working from one day to anothers :S |
| 22:12.15 | blast007 | random feature ;) |
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| 22:15.59 | bryjen | hrm |
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| 22:26.09 | RPG_ | something is truly wrong here |
| 22:26.22 | RPG_ | take this statement: |
| 22:26.24 | RPG_ | if(option_name == "-capNum") |
| 22:26.30 | RPG_ | then take option_name |
| 22:26.42 | RPG_ | option_name0x00c65c04 "-capNum"const char * |
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| 22:26.57 | RPG_ | ...and the if statement returns false |
| 22:27.19 | blast007 | can you use == with char* variables? |
| 22:27.54 | blast007 | anyway, does that statement evaluate to true, or false? |
| 22:33.16 | Darth_Vader | Working on Beta 5, RPG? |
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| 22:41.06 | luca_ | I'm having some problems to build from CVS |
| 22:41.22 | luca_ | should I exectute ./autogen.sh first? |
| 22:41.30 | DTRemenak | yes |
| 22:42.39 | luca_ | I'm getting errors |
| 22:43.28 | luca_ | it says configure.ac was build with automake-1.4-p6 |
| 22:43.58 | luca_ | and I'm using automake 1.9 (it won't work with automake 1.4) |
| 22:44.40 | Tupone | luca_: is a clean source tree? you just did a checkout on an empty tree? |
| 22:44.56 | luca_ | yep |
| 22:46.25 | luca_ | I think I found the problem... |
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| 22:51.14 | I_Died_Once | ... |
| 22:53.14 | RPG_ | sorry |
| 22:53.16 | RPG_ | i'm here again |
| 22:53.22 | RPG_ | blast007: it equates to false |
| 22:53.48 | luca_ | RPG_: are you talking about plain C? |
| 22:53.53 | RPG_ | C++ |
| 22:54.09 | luca_ | but option_name is a char*? |
| 22:54.16 | RPG_ | const char* |
| 22:54.24 | blast007 | try something like: const char* temp = "-capNum"; if (temp == "-capNum") { // do stuff } |
| 22:54.29 | luca_ | you have to use strcmp() |
| 22:54.52 | blast007 | or try what luca_ said ;) |
| 22:55.05 | RPG_ | it just didn't make sense |
| 22:55.10 | RPG_ | -capNum != -capNum |
| 22:55.12 | luca_ | RPG_: yes it does |
| 22:55.29 | blast007 | maybe it's not comparing their contents, like it does in PHP |
| 22:55.48 | blast007 | I get all confused with the specifics of programming languages :) |
| 22:56.02 | luca_ | RPG_: no, you have to read it 'address where it points option_name' != 'address where it points "-capNum"' |
| 22:56.23 | luca_ | beleave me, it's not, it's comparing pointers |
| 22:56.27 | RPG_ | YES! |
| 22:56.29 | RPG_ | it works |
| 22:56.31 | RPG_ | that made my day |
| 22:56.36 | RPG_ | ~luca_++ |
| 22:56.38 | luca_ | RPG_: :) |
| 22:56.49 | RPG_ | did we suddenly get more ops? |
| 22:58.15 | RPG_ | there it goes |
| 22:58.17 | RPG_ | works great |
| 22:59.08 | I_Died_Once | (now for a bit of irony) |
| 22:59.19 | I_Died_Once | OOhh, I love this chat room soo much! Can I be admin here? |
| 22:59.22 | RPG_ | this may be final release |
| 22:59.26 | RPG_ | sure |
| 22:59.37 | RPG_ | /op I_Died_Once |
| 22:59.59 | I_Died_Once | I love love it here SO much! I just HAVE to be admin HERE! Puh-lease? |
| 23:00.02 | I_Died_Once | (Who am I?) |
| 23:00.12 | RPG_ | 50% of the people who paly BZFlag |
| 23:01.48 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/plugins/RogueGenocide/RogueGenocide.cpp: don't send out "you should be more careful" messages more than once per geno-killing. also clean up a bunch of cruft and incorrect comments. |
| 23:04.05 | Tupone | I_Died_Once: you are going near the limit |
| 23:05.19 | RPG_ | I_Died_Once, release ready version on the way |
| 23:09.15 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/plugins/RogueGenocide/RogueGenocide.cpp: make that last part actually work |
| 23:13.54 | luca_ | I've checked out again the CVS version and autogen.sh is still not working (using automake 1.9) |
| 23:13.59 | luca_ | any ideas? |
| 23:14.22 | luca_ | there are 2 warnings and this error: configure.ac:812: required file `win32/VC6/Makefile.in' not found |
| 23:15.18 | luca_ | the warnings says something like underquoted definition of AM_PATH_XDELTA |
| 23:15.32 | Tupone | ignore the last warning |
| 23:15.52 | Tupone | go to win32 |
| 23:15.56 | Tupone | open Makefile.am |
| 23:16.28 | Tupone | what does Makefile.am sais about SUBDIR ? |
| 23:16.35 | Tupone | says even |
| 23:17.51 | luca_ | VC71 |
| 23:18.17 | blast007 | configure.ac in the source root still references win32/VC6/Makefile |
| 23:18.21 | blast007 | should I remove that? |
| 23:18.23 | luca_ | I removed the line about VC6 from configure.ac and it worked |
| 23:18.34 | Tupone | blast007: yes |
| 23:18.37 | blast007 | k |
| 23:20.20 | CIA-8 | BZFlag: 03blast007 * 10bzflag/configure.ac: Remove reference to VC6 directory |
| 23:32.03 | *** join/#bzflag a_monkey (n=elmunky@user-0can33s.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 23:32.22 | a_monkey | how is this type of mouse box? http://tinypic.com/bdjzhl.png |
| 23:32.38 | a_monkey | with a crosshair |
| 23:33.43 | a_monkey | i was messing around with the mouse box code, and decided that it was very useful for shooting at very specific points, such as right past a box corner, to have a crosshair |
| 23:34.14 | blast007 | it's not overly useful |
| 23:34.42 | blast007 | especially when jumping through the air, as your velocity affects the direction of the bullet |
| 23:35.19 | brad2901 | only if you changed _shotsKeepVerticalVelocity |
| 23:35.33 | blast007 | no, even without that |
| 23:35.53 | blast007 | horizontal direction is affected |
| 23:35.54 | DTRemenak | jump and turn, the shots will move sideways midway through your turn |
| 23:36.01 | blast007 | exactly :) |
| 23:36.06 | brad2901 | I see |
| 23:36.09 | DTRemenak | that tidbit can be very useful in some real tight spots :) |
| 23:37.27 | DTRemenak | on the ground your forward/reverse affects bullet velocity too. on fast servers you can give bullets a real punch by driving forward when firing. |
| 23:37.49 | brad2901 | yeah |
| 23:37.54 | blast007 | ...or drive backwards, shoot, then go forward and run into it ;D |
| 23:38.04 | brad2901 | :) |
| 23:41.36 | a_monkey | well i dunno |
| 23:41.43 | a_monkey | i found it kinda useful in certain places |
| 23:41.50 | luca_ | damn! I'm still having problems compiling bzflag :S |
| 23:42.09 | luca_ | Everything is compiled except bzfalg itself |
| 23:42.23 | blast007 | did ./configure say the client was disabled? |
| 23:42.34 | blast007 | might not have the GL headers |
| 23:42.59 | luca_ | I mea, I have bzfs, bzfadmin, etc, but no bzflag. In the src/bzflag directory there are no compiled sources and make says it has nothing to do there |
| 23:43.08 | luca_ | blast007: mmm, let me check |
| 23:44.53 | luca_ | mmm, my fault, I was missing opengl devel files |
| 23:47.40 | blast007 | ah, ok |
| 23:48.23 | I_Died_Once | OK DTR - do I post that dump to the same back trace thread or do I post it to the bzfscron thread? |
| 23:48.32 | DTRemenak | whichever |
| 23:49.02 | I_Died_Once | I'll post it to the misc backtrace thread - you guys might want to come up with an organization to all this |
| 23:49.19 | I_Died_Once | and tell some of these people in here to get the wad out of their panties |
| 23:50.57 | luca_ | It says I don't have gl.h but I do (it's on /usr/include/GL) and I can't find a way to tell ./configure |
| 23:52.40 | luca_ | any ideas? |
| 23:53.11 | RPG_ | apparently not |
| 23:53.30 | Tupone | luca_: I bet you miss the dev packages |
| 23:54.09 | luca_ | Tupone: You lost =) |
| 23:54.19 | Tupone | glu dev? |
| 23:54.26 | Tupone | gl dev ? |
| 23:54.31 | luca_ | Tupone: seriously, I've installed nvidias dev package |
| 23:54.42 | Tupone | and glu ? |
| 23:54.42 | luca_ | should I install mesa or something? |
| 23:55.02 | Tupone | to be sure on what you miss you should look at config.log |
| 23:55.18 | luca_ | oh, I have libmesa-gl-dev and libmesa-glu-dev too :S |
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| 23:55.22 | DTRemenak | I_Died_Once, could you post the crontab also? |
| 23:55.32 | Tupone | or paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca |
| 23:55.44 | DTRemenak | ah, mybad, you already got it |
| 23:55.54 | I_Died_Once | yep |
| 23:56.07 | luca_ | Tupone: wich part? :S |
| 23:56.38 | luca_ | Tupone: but it says on the regular configure output that I'm missing gl.h (wich is present in /usr/include/GL) |
| 23:56.51 | Tupone | that is a bad message |
| 23:58.04 | Tupone | go to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca and paste all config.log or look at it yourself |
| 23:59.10 | luca_ | what should I look for? (config.log it's large), I looked for "error" and "GL" and didn't find anything useful |
| 23:59.35 | Tupone | I know is large :( |
