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| 01:11.06 | I_Died_Once | ... |
| 01:16.09 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10BZFlagG3D/ (3D/src/display.cpp client/src/client.cpp): get the GL to do some GL |
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| 01:29.37 | Tegan | hi |
| 01:30.26 | RPG_ | hello |
| 01:32.14 | Tegan | does anyone else with a Radeon find shot size cannot be increased? |
| 01:33.22 | Tegan | ok how about anyone without a Radeon? |
| 01:33.35 | RPG_ | errrrrrr |
| 01:34.04 | I_Died_Once | you can set that in the options |
| 01:34.09 | I_Died_Once | GUI options i believe |
| 01:34.19 | Tegan | I tried that before asking |
| 01:34.20 | RPG_ | yes ou can |
| 01:35.32 | I_Died_Once | you can change shot size ON RADAR but thats it |
| 01:35.38 | Tegan | no I cannot |
| 01:37.24 | Tegan | one pixel shots are the next best thing to giving IB to everyone, with my eyes. |
| 01:39.07 | Tegan | I've increased the tail length as at least that works, but it isn't the best... |
| 01:39.21 | trepan | this a new prob? |
| 01:39.26 | Tegan | on the forum I found one post with the same prob... |
| 01:39.31 | trepan | and which os/drvs ? |
| 01:39.46 | Tegan | someone else said "run as root" and the poster said that worked, so no help there |
| 01:40.03 | Tegan | os... |
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| 01:45.50 | RPG_ | hey JeffM2501 |
| 01:46.01 | RPG_ | i found some problems with your site |
| 01:46.50 | JeffM2501 | that's not suprising :) |
| 01:46.59 | JeffM2501 | and by "site" you mean "single page" ? |
| 01:47.11 | RPG_ | eh yea |
| 01:47.32 | RPG_ | visited link formatting needs to be written |
| 01:47.34 | Tegan | ++trepan |
| 01:47.39 | Tegan | ~trepan++ |
| 01:47.44 | Tegan | trepan++ |
| 01:47.51 | Tegan | !trepan++ |
| 01:47.53 | Tegan | ? |
| 01:47.54 | RPG_ | he already got 2 karma :) |
| 01:48.05 | Tegan | ok I didn't see the reply |
| 01:49.07 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, I have little knowledge about HTML and how it "should" be formated |
| 01:49.16 | JeffM2501 | feel free to clean as needed |
| 01:51.00 | RPG_ | live copy of your shoubtox is always at http://garrettp.homeip.net/JeffM2501/index.php |
| 01:52.33 | JeffM2501 | Parse error: parse error in g:\websites\jeffm2501\shoutbox.php on line 41 |
| 01:52.40 | RPG_ | eeh |
| 01:52.45 | RPG_ | it's a live copy |
| 01:52.47 | JeffM2501 | just zip what I need and i'll post it up :) |
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| 02:22.18 | RPG_ | ~bzfquery 24.161.28.81:5154 |
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| 02:59.35 | menotume | ~trepan++ why are we plusing trepan ? :) |
| 02:59.37 | ibot | okay, menotume |
| 03:05.33 | orange | ~trepan++ |
| 03:05.35 | orange | does it really matter? |
| 03:05.45 | menotume | hehe |
| 03:05.46 | orange | I'm sure he's done something to earn it |
| 03:05.54 | menotume | of course he has |
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| 04:46.21 | Roxport | ok... |
| 04:46.46 | Mr_Molez | wb |
| 04:47.04 | Roxport | tks |
| 04:47.07 | Roxport | this is much better |
| 04:47.19 | Mr_Molez | i try not to tk ;) |
| 04:47.30 | Roxport | ha ha, in IRC? lol |
| 04:47.42 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 04:47.48 | Roxport | ok, when i first started playing, not modify the bzc file (on client side) |
| 04:48.02 | Roxport | i would press "L" button while playing and lagstats would show up automatically |
| 04:48.27 | Roxport | but then i modify bzc file so that radar is bigger, and now "L" button doesn't work like that anymore. |
| 04:48.44 | Mr_Molez | windows or linux/mac ? |
| 04:49.24 | Roxport | :( winxp |
| 04:49.27 | Mr_Molez | eww |
| 04:49.31 | Roxport | well.. |
| 04:49.42 | Mr_Molez | ok delete the config file. start bzflag. close bzflag. set ur radar |
| 04:49.47 | Mr_Molez | should work then |
| 04:50.02 | Roxport | okay. i'll try that. hmmm |
| 04:50.26 | Roxport | config file gets re-created (if I delete it first) when I restart the client, right? |
| 04:50.32 | Mr_Molez | yeh |
| 04:50.47 | Roxport | i will save a copy of current, cause i've got stuff i like in there........brb |
| 04:57.24 | Roxport | err, sorry, it was the "O" (letter O) button that does that. Press O and status(lower left) says "Lag / Ping Stats". |
| 04:57.36 | Roxport | Then press enter and get the lagstats scroll in the message area. |
| 04:57.48 | Mr_Molez | :| |
| 04:57.55 | Mr_Molez | well atleast its ok now |
| 04:58.43 | Roxport | in config file it says "bind O down servercommand" (also found in "options" in client while playing) |
| 04:58.47 | Roxport | brb |
| 05:00.55 | Roxport | ok. it's back to normal. weird. |
| 05:01.03 | Roxport | simple solution = thanks! |
| 05:01.56 | Mr_Molez | cu :) |
| 05:02.19 | Roxport | ok, now for what I really came here for. does anyone know about setting up bzfs behind a router (winxp-belkin-SBC DSL)? |
| 05:02.43 | Roxport | It works just fine if I plug computer directly into DSL modem, but I'd rather use my router. |
| 05:03.02 | Mr_Molez | you will need to forward the ports to your computer |
| 05:03.17 | Mr_Molez | or enable dmz (depends how security minded you are) ;) |
| 05:03.20 | Roxport | I've tried port forwarding, DMZ, etc. the only thing seems to work is disable NAT on the router, but then I have to manual reset the router in order to log into admin page of router. Pain in the ass... |
| 05:04.03 | Roxport | I have dynamic IP, ZoneAlarm, but i know those are fine, because it works with computer-DSL modem... |
| 05:04.12 | Mr_Molez | are you checking that the ip's of the computer arnt changing from what you are forwarding the ports (dhcp can be a cause) |
| 05:04.29 | Roxport | I have one computer in my LAN....hmm |
| 05:05.20 | Roxport | port forwarding ("virtual servers" in belkin-speak) wants me to specify the LAN IP of the computer I want the port traffic directed to. |
| 05:06.17 | Roxport | i enter the type(UDP), port(5155), then last suffix of LAN IP of the computer(2 in my case; 1 is the router), then port(5155). |
| 05:06.24 | Mr_Molez | yeh that is necessary |
| 05:07.11 | Mr_Molez | you did the tcp port also ? |
| 05:07.11 | Roxport | basically i want to disable NAT at the router, while running server. risky i know, but it's not a full-time server |
| 05:07.26 | Roxport | yeah, i tried both udp and tcp and just udp, no joy |
| 05:07.48 | Mr_Molez | how do you know no joy ? |
| 05:07.56 | bryjen | you need both. and 5154 is the default port for bzfs |
| 05:08.25 | Roxport | in my bzfs command, i specify 5155. but you're saying i need 5154 no matter what? |
| 05:08.46 | bryjen | no, you're OK then. |
| 05:08.51 | Roxport | bryjen: i need "both" ? ports, protocol types? |
| 05:08.52 | Mr_Molez | Roxport: you do realise you cant connect to your own ip when your on a router ? |
| 05:09.25 | Roxport | yes, i know. i just enter the computer name (or LAN ip addr). but my friend on computer outside of my LAN can't connect with client. |
| 05:09.36 | Mr_Molez | ahh ok |
| 05:09.44 | Roxport | but when plug my coomputer(bzfs) directly to my DSL modem, then he can log in and shoot me. |
| 05:09.56 | bryjen | both protocols, and whatever port you've specified. |
| 05:10.23 | Roxport | so definitely router. i've read on Internet that port forwarding doesn't always work for certain types of router vendors and they're not known for the customer service prowess. |
| 05:10.53 | Mr_Molez | are you resetting the router after you have made the settings ? |
| 05:11.15 | Roxport | no, usually not... should I? |
| 05:11.20 | Mr_Molez | if so do u have dynamic ip's and are you checking to get the new ip |
| 05:11.25 | Roxport | (Bryjen: thanks) |
| 05:11.28 | Mr_Molez | yeh its necessary usually on most routers |
| 05:11.37 | bryjen | tcp forwarding /should/ usually work. and you /can/ /sorta/ play with just tcp, but it'll suck ;) |
| 05:12.02 | Roxport | dynamic ip = yes |
| 05:12.34 | Roxport | if i reset router, my WAN IP usually the same. i check it. usually only get new WAN IP upon modem reset... /usually only then/ |
| 05:13.14 | Mr_Molez | well you will need modem reset for port forward alterations i think |
| 05:13.22 | Mr_Molez | then check whatismyip.com for your new ip |
| 05:13.30 | Mr_Molez | (or your router) |
| 05:13.58 | Roxport | lol, i just added that shortcut to my web browser. handy little site. |
| 05:14.09 | Roxport | I will try reset router. that's a good idea. |
| 05:14.13 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 05:14.14 | Mr_Molez | gl ;) |
| 05:14.40 | Roxport | i'm using zoneedit.com (almost 5 years now). i love them. |
| 05:15.01 | Roxport | brb - resetting router now |
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| 05:20.40 | Mr_Molez | im a lean mean helping machine today :D |
| 05:20.47 | Roxport1 | argh...guess i shoulda logged out so i could use same nick...oh well... |
| 05:21.18 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 05:21.55 | Mr_Molez | any luck ? |
| 05:21.57 | Roxport1 | i am scanning ports on my computer at grc.com (Shields Up) that should tell me status of 5155, right? |
| 05:22.07 | Roxport1 | not sure (luck?)....brb |
| 05:22.09 | Mr_Molez | yeh |
| 05:22.15 | Mr_Molez | alsong as 5155 is in the search path |
| 05:22.54 | Mr_Molez | u could just use the bot here though |
| 05:22.57 | Roxport1 | it says 5155 is open! (unspecified application) |
| 05:23.08 | Roxport1 | bot, oh geez i didn't know... |
| 05:23.14 | Mr_Molez | ~bzfs dub.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 05:23.34 | Roxport1 | "Unknown protocol for this port" (results from Shields up) |
| 05:23.59 | Mr_Molez | umm cant remember the command |
| 05:24.03 | Mr_Molez | !bzfs |
| 05:24.04 | TheLastSpartan | bzfs is the BZflag server, you need: -publicaddr server.name.com:5154 *and* -public ' come play here' must be set in your bzfs.conf, *also* open the port (5154 in this case) in your firewall/router *also* see http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer ; need a conf file to get started? http://bzgirl.bzflag.org/pub/bzfs.conf |
| 05:24.06 | Mr_Molez | ahh |
| 05:24.11 | Mr_Molez | !bzfs dub.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 05:24.12 | TheLastSpartan | Mr_Molez: I'm sorry, that makes NO FREAKING SENSE to me what so ever. |
| 05:24.28 | Roxport1 | hey i think it's working... |
| 05:24.32 | Mr_Molez | nice |
| 05:25.16 | Roxport1 | jump in if you can, so i can test it: test.kueck.net:5155 |
| 05:25.30 | Mr_Molez | nah cant sry im in the process of installing linux |
| 05:25.42 | Mr_Molez | that bot will check though if i can find the command |
| 05:25.48 | Roxport1 | no prob |
| 05:26.06 | Roxport1 | ok. my server shows up in the list of servers...so it must be good, right? |
| 05:26.14 | Mr_Molez | yep :) |
| 05:26.30 | Roxport1 | you are a genius. a lean mean helpin' machine. you rock |
| 05:27.03 | Roxport1 | spartan: thanks for the info also |
| 05:28.55 | Roxport1 | and thanks to the other person (when I was Roxport, before I reset my router) i forgot their nick.... |
| 05:29.27 | Mr_Molez | bryjen |
| 05:29.46 | Roxport1 | oh yeah, but not here anymore? |
| 05:30.37 | Mr_Molez | nah |
| 05:35.03 | Roxport1 | bye roxport! |
| 05:35.07 | Mr_Molez | ~say i suck |
| 05:35.09 | ibot | i suck |
| 05:35.14 | Mr_Molez | u sure do ! |
| 05:35.58 | Mr_Molez | ~bzfs dub.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 05:36.14 | Mr_Molez | ahh i remember |
| 05:36.21 | Mr_Molez | ~bzquery dub.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 05:36.30 | Mr_Molez | ~bzfsquery dub.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 05:36.36 | Mr_Molez | maybe not :( |
| 05:36.52 | Mr_Molez | ~bzf dub.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 05:36.57 | Mr_Molez | ~bzfquery dub.bzflag.org:5156 |
| 05:37.06 | Mr_Molez | finally :> |
| 05:39.33 | Roxport | ~bzfquery test.kueck.net:5155 |
| 05:39.41 | Mr_Molez | hehe |
| 05:39.41 | Roxport | :) |
| 05:39.47 | Roxport | this is wicked |
| 05:50.02 | Mr_Molez | lol you went from bzleague to bzchat to bzleague |
| 05:50.25 | Roxport | what? you mean I? |
| 05:50.49 | Mr_Molez | o wait never mind.. bzchat . bzleague. bzleague |
| 05:50.59 | Mr_Molez | *bzflag |
| 05:51.17 | Mr_Molez | ahh i need sleep im going stupid |
| 05:54.53 | Roxport | ok |
| 05:55.00 | Roxport | lol |
| 05:55.05 | Roxport | thanks again! |
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| 06:52.56 | Mr_Molez | !dict respectively |
| 06:52.59 | TheLastSpartan | Mr_Molez: wn, gcide, and moby-thes responded: wn: respectively adv : in the order given; "the brothers were called Felix and Max, respectively" [syn: {severally}]; moby-thes: 25 Moby Thesaurus words for "respectively": apiece, commonly, communally, distributively, each, each to each, entre nous, even stephen, fifty-fifty, half-and-half, in equal shares, in proportion, (2 more messages) |
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| 07:06.05 | LePoulpe303 | Hi all |
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| 09:35.19 | LePoulpe303 | i'm looking for a tester for my prototype of launcher for bzflag ; anyone interested ? |
| 09:36.00 | LePoulpe303 | (actually for windows only) |
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| 13:42.38 | I_Died_Once | yooo |
| 13:45.55 | jpa- | I_Died_Once: are you dead? |
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| 14:16.34 | I_Died_Once | So how does it feel to FINALLY be 25, SportChick? |
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| 14:35.16 | Tupone | HB RatOmeter, then |
| 14:40.11 | SportChick | I_Died_Once: I feel soooo old now! :) |
| 14:43.25 | Tupone | 25? yet ? hmm that is really old |
| 14:51.07 | SportChick | ~lart Tupone |
| 14:51.35 | Tupone | :) |
| 14:56.15 | jpa- | :/ |
| 14:56.41 | jpa- | grumbler luckily hasn't :) |
| 14:59.05 | jpa- | :/ |
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| 15:29.37 | RatOmeter | A question about global registration. isn't it as simple as using the same callsign/pass as registered as a /bb forum user? |
| 15:30.08 | Mr_Molez | yep |
| 15:30.17 | RatOmeter | hmmm, not working for me |
| 15:30.23 | RatOmeter | at viper.pimpi.org |
| 15:30.41 | RatOmeter | user error, I'm sure |
| 15:31.12 | Mr_Molez | and your sure you typed in the correct pass ? |
| 15:31.18 | Mr_Molez | how about spaces in your name ? |
| 15:31.48 | RatOmeter | no spaces, just verified that I can log in to /bb with the same user/pass |
| 15:31.58 | Mr_Molez | ok have you tried a different server ? |
| 15:32.12 | RatOmeter | nope. will do |
| 15:33.21 | RatOmeter | OK, that worked. I previously registered locally to viper.pimpi.org using the same user/pass, that shouldn't affect it? |
| 15:33.56 | Mr_Molez | umm i think it might |
| 15:34.27 | Mr_Molez | ask the people on the server first if their global login is working though |
| 15:34.47 | RatOmeter | OK |
| 15:37.30 | Pimpinella | RatOmeter: local registration affects it |
| 15:38.07 | RatOmeter | Ah, I see. I assumed same call/pass would be OK though |
| 15:38.23 | Pimpinella | if you want global login deregister your local account first |
| 15:38.39 | RatOmeter | thanks. how? |
| 15:38.55 | Mr_Molez | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:38.57 | Pimpinella | if you want both, deregister locally, login once globally and use setpass |
| 15:39.09 | RatOmeter | heh |
| 15:39.29 | RatOmeter | thanks |
| 15:40.21 | Pimpinella | then you're automtically member of the default group LOCAL.GLOBAL which allows you to use privs of the local account with the global and vice versa |
| 15:40.22 | RatOmeter | good, that did it |
| 15:40.30 | RatOmeter | I see |
| 15:41.51 | Pimpinella | join #prism54 |
| 15:41.56 | Pimpinella | hmmm |
| 15:53.17 | CBG | BZAdmin --> CVS bzfs Problem! http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5127 |
| 15:57.08 | CBG | ~seen RPG_ |
| 15:57.10 | ibot | rpg_ <n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #bzflag, 13h 34m 52s ago, saying: '~bzfquery 24.161.28.81:5154'. |
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| 17:46.26 | muerbi | hi? |
| 17:46.40 | Thumper_ | hi. |
| 17:47.09 | muerbi | wow this is the first time i chat with irc |
| 17:47.24 | muerbi | its totally different somehow |
| 17:47.32 | Thumper_ | then this probably isn't the right forum to start with.... |
| 17:47.45 | Thumper_ | unless you want to talk about bzflag |
| 17:47.47 | muerbi | hmm |
| 17:47.54 | muerbi | what would be the right one? |
| 17:48.24 | *** topic/#bzflag by muerbi -> |
| 17:49.16 | JeffM2501 | what dude |
| 17:49.22 | *** topic/#bzflag by JeffM2501 -> http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || #bzchat if you just want to chat || paste errors to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca |
| 17:49.33 | JeffM2501 | please don't remove the topic |
| 17:49.42 | *** mode/#bzflag [+t] by JeffM2501 |
| 17:49.50 | muerbi | sry |
| 17:50.46 | silverfox | lol |
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| 18:00.23 | Grumbler | dip.t-dialin, no surprise there |
| 18:02.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
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| 18:18.56 | RatOmeter | +t that is |
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| 18:19.41 | JeffM2501 | it's a channel mode not an op mode :) |
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| 20:31.05 | RPG_ | heh, check out LanDing's avatar |
| 20:32.54 | JeffM2501 | who? |
| 20:32.59 | RPG_ | LanDing |
| 20:33.09 | JeffM2501 | adonde? |
| 20:33.18 | RPG_ | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=5058 |
| 20:33.57 | JeffM2501 | *sigh* |
| 20:34.25 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 20:34.35 | JeffM2501 | not that those arn't nice :) |
| 20:35.45 | JeffM2501 | tho that is so last year |
| 20:35.55 | JeffM2501 | was a flash thing that you could move it up and down |
| 20:37.32 | JeffM2501 | all taken care of |
| 20:37.39 | JeffM2501 | freaking idiots |
| 20:38.27 | JeffM2501 | when I can do it at range :0 |
| 20:39.03 | JeffM2501 | banshotgun would be nice, then I could get more in one shot |
| 20:39.10 | JeffM2501 | but he's not baned |
| 20:39.42 | bryjen | don't be silly. this is the internet, it all can be done remotely. |
| 20:39.55 | bryjen | SportyGal even does it from her cell phone |
| 20:40.44 | bryjen | hmm, that sounds dirtier than intended ;) |
| 20:41.17 | SportyGal | does what? |
| 20:41.27 | bryjen | exactly. |
| 20:41.56 | bryjen | seriously though, IRC, bzadmin... |
| 20:42.19 | SportyGal | oh, yeah, well - it's not hard |
| 20:42.28 | SportyGal | If ~I~ can do it... :) |
| 20:43.46 | JeffM2501 | then what is the diff from a banhammer to a banpistol? |
| 20:45.16 | JeffM2501 | set up a hotkey, where I higlight a name in IRC, hit F3 and they are baned from all things? ;) |
| 20:46.09 | bryjen | eh. no diff I guess. banhammer has a nicer ring to it. also evokes an image of squishy death ;) |
| 20:46.54 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 20:46.56 | bryjen | cartoonish over-the-top violence |
| 20:48.33 | bryjen | for you are the Evil Oppressor of Munchkins Everywhere |
| 20:48.54 | JeffM2501 | well the banhammer is a barel on a stick :) |
| 20:49.12 | JeffM2501 | donkey kong style |
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| 20:52.21 | Grumbler | heh, JeffM2501 even got mention last night on SP.........."he's so unfair" :) |
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| 20:53.55 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 20:53.59 | JeffM2501 | by who this time? |
| 20:54.47 | Grumbler | zippy...zappy......trigger happy......something like that, i didnt take too much notice, SP is not the place to voice gripes |
| 20:54.51 | JeffM2501 | ahh yeah him |
| 20:55.06 | JeffM2501 | yeah been having a problem with him lately |
| 20:55.19 | JeffM2501 | dredging, offensive posts, double posts, all caps, etcc. |
| 20:55.38 | JeffM2501 | sent him a pm after cleaning up asking him to be more carefull, and he did not respond favorabely |
| 20:55.55 | Grumbler | heh, do they ever |
| 20:56.00 | JeffM2501 | usualy yeah |
| 20:56.16 | JeffM2501 | 90% of them didn't realise, or something and are cool after |
| 20:56.34 | CBG | that darn 10%, eh? |
| 20:57.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:57.23 | CBG | RPG_ ping. |
| 20:57.26 | JeffM2501 | most of the kids on the fourms just don't know what to do and are very excited |
| 20:57.27 | Grumbler | well, he didnt get a lot of sympathy on SP........ |
| 20:57.33 | JeffM2501 | like the supertanker guy |
| 20:57.37 | JeffM2501 | he's not bad, just a child |
| 20:57.44 | JeffM2501 | and has to be reminded of stuff |
| 20:57.52 | JeffM2501 | I'd imagine not |
| 20:57.58 | JeffM2501 | his posts are horible |
| 20:57.58 | CBG | JeffM2501: Did I imagine someone called G-Man or something posting 40 posts in a day, or something. |
| 20:57.59 | Grumbler | "he's not bad", hes just drawn that way |
| 20:58.10 | JeffM2501 | CBG, 55 |
| 20:58.16 | RPG_ | 55? |
| 20:58.17 | RPG_ | pong |
| 20:58.19 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:58.24 | CBG | RPG_ you do. |
| 20:58.30 | JeffM2501 | it was like playing whack-a-mole |
| 20:58.32 | RPG_ | i'm only at 5 PPD |
| 20:58.38 | CBG | JeffM2501: *sigh* |
| 20:58.39 | JeffM2501 | 55 isn't the max |
| 20:58.44 | JeffM2501 | lildog |
| 20:58.48 | CBG | Really? |
| 20:58.49 | JeffM2501 | 250/day |
| 20:58.50 | RPG_ | oh |
| 20:58.52 | RPG_ | wow |
| 20:58.58 | CBG | :o |
| 20:58.58 | RPG_ | how many days had he been on when that stat came up? |
| 20:59.02 | JeffM2501 | 2 |
| 20:59.11 | CBG | 500 posts in 2 days? |
| 20:59.13 | bryjen | it's similar to road rage, semi-isolated alone inside their car/at the computer, peoples social skills degrade quickly |
| 20:59.15 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:59.25 | CBG | Thats more than half my total, and I dont go easy... |
| 20:59.31 | JeffM2501 | it was bad |
| 20:59.35 | JeffM2501 | there was mas removals |
| 20:59.37 | JeffM2501 | a ban |
| 20:59.42 | RPG_ | did you take out most of G-Man's post? |
| 20:59.43 | JeffM2501 | then about a year later an unban |
| 20:59.45 | CBG | RPG_ see my post on the MasterBot organization thread? |
| 20:59.51 | RPG_ | yeah |
| 20:59.52 | RPG_ | i replised |
| 20:59.56 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, I pruned many of his down, he double/tripple posted a lot |
| 20:59.59 | CBG | Oh, recently? |
| 21:00.02 | JeffM2501 | and did some stupid chat/dredge things |
| 21:00.10 | JeffM2501 | but many of his per topical so they stayed |
| 21:00.27 | JeffM2501 | I combined a number of his posts |
| 21:00.33 | JeffM2501 | to not loose info |
| 21:00.42 | JeffM2501 | and he was talked too |
| 21:00.53 | JeffM2501 | Matt? is my current post munchkin tho |
| 21:01.05 | CBG | Heh. Matt?. heh. |
| 21:01.10 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:01.10 | CBG | and Ballard. |
| 21:01.18 | JeffM2501 | and LanDing just can't display an avatar anymore |
| 21:01.20 | RPG_ | they all have those stupid robot avatars |
| 21:01.27 | CBG | As far as I can tell, those 2 are identical twins. |
| 21:01.27 | JeffM2501 | they do |
| 21:01.28 | RPG_ | it's impossible to tell who-from-who now |
| 21:01.37 | CBG | RPG_ agreed. |
| 21:01.38 | JeffM2501 | I haven't see a problem with ballard posting |
| 21:01.45 | JeffM2501 | they are sheep |
| 21:01.51 | CBG | He seems to be exactly like Matt? though. |
| 21:01.58 | JeffM2501 | he dosnt' post as much |
| 21:02.00 | CBG | From what I have seen... although he posts less. |
| 21:02.02 | CBG | yeah. |
| 21:02.31 | JeffM2501 | big red flags go up when I sign on, and like 10 icons are red, and they all say the same name in the right |
| 21:02.45 | CBG | red flags? :/ |
| 21:02.49 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 21:02.53 | JeffM2501 | warnings in my head |
| 21:02.55 | RPG_ | ~red foags |
| 21:03.01 | JeffM2501 | that something is up |
| 21:03.01 | JeffM2501 | you know |
| 21:03.01 | RPG_ | ~red flags |
| 21:03.06 | JeffM2501 | like in footbal |
| 21:03.06 | JeffM2501 | red flag |
| 21:03.06 | CBG | ahha. not on the site. ;) |
| 21:03.06 | JeffM2501 | black flag |
| 21:03.23 | RPG_ | heh |
| 21:03.29 | RPG_ | PHP generated red flage |
| 21:04.27 | CBG | :D |
| 21:04.52 | CBG | RPG_ I don't see anything about me, said by you, on the "here lies an organized thread" thread. |
| 21:05.05 | CBG | s/[1st]thread/post |
| 21:05.13 | JeffM2501 | tho if LanDing's explenation for his avatar involves anything about "I thought it was ok in mofo" then I'm going to have to seriously reevaluate that forum. |
| 21:05.32 | RPG_ | oh |
| 21:05.33 | CBG | Heh. You bent over backwards for that forum. WHy? |
| 21:05.50 | JeffM2501 | the request to have it was reasonable |
| 21:05.58 | JeffM2501 | as long as it didn't cause problems |
| 21:06.11 | CBG | and, it's not? |
| 21:06.14 | silverfox | which forum is this? |
| 21:06.17 | silverfox | pbpbb? |
| 21:06.19 | JeffM2501 | it didn't for a long while |
| 21:06.22 | JeffM2501 | now it is |
| 21:06.29 | JeffM2501 | silverfox, it's a private sub on bzbb |
| 21:06.32 | CBG | in specific...? |
| 21:06.47 | silverfox | bzbb that is. |
| 21:06.57 | JeffM2501 | it's goten large enough where it's moderators can't contain it, and stuff slips |
| 21:06.59 | JeffM2501 | I can't have slips |
| 21:07.11 | CBG | Yeah, I've seen some. |
| 21:07.20 | RPG_ | yeah |
| 21:07.22 | JeffM2501 | so if the only way to not have slips is to not let them bend the rules, then they don't bend the rules anymore |
| 21:07.27 | CBG | I keep having to check which forum I am in... Hopefully I'm not a slipper. :) |
| 21:07.37 | JeffM2501 | if you were, you would have been notified |
| 21:07.55 | RPG_ | you do alot of notifying |
| 21:07.58 | JeffM2501 | but it's becoming more trouble then it's worth |
| 21:08.06 | CBG | then I'm not. :) |
| 21:08.07 | JeffM2501 | everyday |
| 21:08.14 | RPG_ | A-D DOES have a webserver.... |
| 21:08.19 | Birdie | bzbb places automaticallly some one as moderator if he is in some private group where only few view some part of the forum? |
| 21:08.30 | CBG | O.o |
| 21:08.34 | JeffM2501 | lamer is giving them a place to blab, so, they may not need it here anymore |
| 21:08.47 | JeffM2501 | Birdie, depends how I set it up |
| 21:09.01 | RPG_ | CBG: i woulnd't recommend web designing for materbot - yet |
| 21:09.01 | JeffM2501 | when I do a private I usualy set the requester as mod |
| 21:09.09 | RPG_ | chat about it on #masterbot |
| 21:09.12 | JeffM2501 | or the admin group of the server as mods |
| 21:09.28 | CBG | RPG: Well, its there as an option and I'm not bad at it... |
| 21:09.29 | JeffM2501 | lately I've been doing the group thing |
| 21:09.33 | JeffM2501 | since we use them more now |
| 21:09.39 | CBG | RPG_ so if you wan't help, and I have time, lemme know. |
| 21:09.43 | RPG_ | CBG: /jon #masterbot :D |
| 21:09.44 | Birdie | ah thats why i'm green:), didnt even knew i was mod somewhere over there |
| 21:09.52 | JeffM2501 | RPG_, what do I need for the chatbox thing |
| 21:09.53 | CBG | I g2g in 1 sec |
| 21:10.02 | JeffM2501 | Birdie, yeah a number of people have had that happen |
| 21:10.13 | RPG_ | MySQL (although if you absolutly can't get it, i can do flatfile), and rename index.html to index.php |
| 21:10.29 | CBG | I don't do MySQL. |
| 21:10.31 | JeffM2501 | can you zip up what I need and just send it to me? |
| 21:10.42 | RPG_ | errrr can't really zip up MySQL :D |
| 21:10.47 | CBG | I don;'t even know much PHP. I'm a HTML and CSS guy. |
| 21:10.54 | JeffM2501 | dump the db and I can merge it into mine |
| 21:10.55 | CBG | g2g, match. speak later, RPG_. |
| 21:11.01 | JeffM2501 | mysqldump |
| 21:11.02 | RPG_ | CBG: ok |
| 21:11.11 | RPG_ | JeffM2501: the PHP script creates the table structure fo ryou |
| 21:11.18 | JeffM2501 | oh then no wories |
| 21:11.26 | JeffM2501 | does it use a prefix? |
| 21:11.41 | RPG_ | not familiar with those |
| 21:11.44 | JeffM2501 | it may share a db with a phpbb |
| 21:11.56 | RPG_ | no it doesn't |
| 21:12.04 | JeffM2501 | well I can ad one |
| 21:12.08 | JeffM2501 | no bigie |
| 21:12.08 | RPG_ | eah |
| 21:12.19 | JeffM2501 | it just use 1 table? |
| 21:12.28 | RPG_ | err, for continuity, what prefix do you want? |
| 21:12.31 | RPG_ | yes only 1 table |
| 21:12.48 | JeffM2501 | I'd like it to be setable in the php, in case I have more then one chatbox using the same db |
| 21:13.07 | JeffM2501 | but then I could be being picky :) |
| 21:14.28 | RPG_ | can you do the adminning in phpMyAdmin, or something else, so i don't have to make an admin panel? |
| 21:14.38 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:14.52 | JeffM2501 | tho not sure what I'd even admin :0 |
| 21:15.25 | RPG_ | the random spammer |
| 21:15.34 | JeffM2501 | mehh |
| 21:15.47 | JeffM2501 | doubt the page will ever actualy be seen :) |
| 21:22.32 | JeffM2501 | but ya never know |
| 21:22.53 | RPG_ | is the only goal of this project to revamp the BZ network code? |
| 21:24.03 | JeffM2501 | we'll see |
| 21:24.09 | JeffM2501 | and your not suposed to know that |
| 21:24.13 | RPG_ | oh |
| 21:24.18 | RPG_ | your sig has a link to the site |
| 21:24.20 | JeffM2501 | ~RPG_++ |
| 21:24.22 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
| 21:24.29 | RPG_ | "It's a party in your tank, and EVERYONE's invited!" |
| 21:24.42 | JeffM2501 | most impresive for somone so young |
| 21:25.22 | RPG_ | i just wish i could drive :P |
| 21:25.32 | JeffM2501 | you have many long years left |
| 21:25.43 | JeffM2501 | there will be a point where you don't want to drive anymore :) |
| 21:27.28 | JeffM2501 | tho tecincaly it would be a party on my server and everyone's invited, not in the tank itself |
| 21:28.22 | RPG_ | the "tank" has a ring to it that makes it sound cool |
| 21:29.04 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:29.19 | JeffM2501 | I was on nyquil when I wrote it |
| 21:31.34 | bryjen | hmm |
| 21:31.52 | bryjen | ~spell masive |
| 21:32.06 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 21:32.12 | JeffM2501 | that would figure wouldn't it |
| 21:32.36 | RPG_ | ~spell playablilty |
| 21:32.45 | JeffM2501 | the entire thing need help |
| 21:32.53 | bryjen | and is supposed to be a funky link, or an image in your sig? |
| 21:32.56 | JeffM2501 | feel free to mod it RPG_ if you so desire |
| 21:32.58 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.05 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.10 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:33.35 | JeffM2501 | I was bored with my sig |
| 21:33.43 | JeffM2501 | but I don't like how that one came out |
| 21:33.52 | JeffM2501 | needs more robot |
| 21:34.43 | RPG_ | time to dust off the REGEX part of my brain |
| 21:45.38 | RPG_ | oh- JeffM2501, that karma you gave to "RPG_" is obsolete, since i use "RPG" for karma... :) |
| 21:46.18 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
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| 21:46.53 | RPG_ | you gave some karma to "RPG_", but technically that's not me, i'm "RPG" |
| 21:47.04 | *** part/#bzflag Molez (n=Mr_Molez@ACD51969.ipt.aol.com) |
| 21:47.16 | JeffM2501 | huh++? |
| 21:47.31 | JeffM2501 | here you are RPG_ |
| 21:47.44 | RPG_ | ahh whatever |
| 21:47.53 | JeffM2501 | karma is a here only thing |
| 21:47.56 | RPG_ | oh |
| 21:48.03 | RPG_ | i thought someday it'd switch over to BZFlag |
| 21:48.12 | RPG_ | bzflag.org/wiki/Karma_system |
| 21:48.12 | JeffM2501 | it may but it's not an IRC thing |
| 21:48.38 | purple_cow | RPG_: the ibot karma is completely unrelated to that discussion |
| 21:48.45 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:48.58 | JeffM2501 | IRC and bzbb will probalby never be linked |
| 21:49.58 | TimRiker | might be able to query bzbb from ibot, but not adjust anything. irc is not exactly secure. |
| 21:50.45 | JeffM2501 | and what would the point be? |
| 21:51.07 | JeffM2501 | it woudl not have the karmic history that keeps your karma system from being abbused by bots |
| 21:51.25 | JeffM2501 | as we found out it's kinda easy to get ibot to ruin someone's day |
| 21:51.28 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
| 21:52.08 | JeffM2501 | ibot karma TimRiker |
| 21:52.08 | ibot | timriker has karma of -651 |
| 21:52.11 | TimRiker | just to lookup someone in bzbb like we use bzflist here. |
| 21:52.12 | JeffM2501 | ;) |
| 21:52.14 | RPG_ | wow |
| 21:52.22 | JeffM2501 | that could be done with RSS |
| 21:52.34 | TimRiker | true, then ibot can rss it. ;-) |
| 21:52.39 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:52.54 | JeffM2501 | would be the best way |
| 21:53.18 | JeffM2501 | like bzuserquery rss, shows user stats and groups and stuff |
| 21:53.30 | JeffM2501 | and there bz karma when implemented |
| 21:53.51 | JeffM2501 | then it's sure to be read only :) |
| 22:01.59 | JeffM2501 | I'm gonna kill this freaking code |
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| 22:06.24 | Birdie | ~coding++ :) |
| 22:29.39 | RPG_ | JeffM2501: like? http://garrettp.homeip.net/JeffM2501/index.php |
| 22:30.33 | JeffM2501 | the black background is a bit hard to read, but yeah that's cool |
| 22:30.51 | RPG_ | it's all changeablye |
| 22:31.00 | JeffM2501 | very slick |
| 22:31.28 | JeffM2501 | probalby dosn't even need the reset button tho |
| 22:31.47 | RPG_ | reset buttons in HTML are easy |
| 22:32.30 | JeffM2501 | still dosn't mean they have a use :) |
| 22:32.50 | RPG_ | the only problem is it doesn't do any content checking |
| 22:33.05 | JeffM2501 | meaning? |
| 22:33.14 | RPG_ | Click "reset", then "submit" |
| 22:33.30 | RPG_ | or, SQL injection is possible |
| 22:34.46 | RPG_ | hell, it doesn't even need amysql database |
| 22:35.12 | JeffM2501 | just flatfile it? |
| 22:35.20 | RPG_ | it's already flatfile |
| 22:35.26 | JeffM2501 | keen |
| 22:35.32 | RPG_ | each time an entry is made, the scrpit dumps everything in the dabase to a file |
| 22:35.42 | RPG_ | so, wy not just append to the file each time there's an entry? |
| 22:35.50 | JeffM2501 | sure |
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| 22:44.56 | RPG_ | JeffM2501: what font do you use throughout the site? |
| 22:47.25 | JeffM2501 | I dono |
| 22:47.33 | JeffM2501 | like the default one |
| 22:47.41 | JeffM2501 | the "site" is that one page |
| 22:47.49 | JeffM2501 | the CSS is even IN that page :) |
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| 22:48.49 | RPG_ | i saw, but there's no font |
| 22:48.57 | JeffM2501 | then I don't have a font |
| 22:49.12 | JeffM2501 | I asume some font is used by the browser when a page dosn't spec one |
| 22:50.12 | RPG_ | ~ogf |
| 22:50.39 | JeffM2501 | few know of the ogf |
| 22:50.46 | RPG_ | ~dict ogf |
| 22:50.48 | JeffM2501 | even fewer know that it works |
| 22:51.17 | RPG_ | i got ya a 2KB zip file, think we could just do a IRC file transfer? |
| 22:51.25 | JeffM2501 | it may work |
| 22:51.26 | JeffM2501 | it may not |
| 22:51.29 | JeffM2501 | can but try |
| 22:51.31 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 22:51.46 | RPG_ | "waiting for transfer to begin" |
| 22:52.19 | JeffM2501 | nfg |
| 22:52.32 | RPG_ | nfg? |
| 22:52.45 | JeffM2501 | no f'in good :) |
| 22:52.49 | RPG_ | ahh |
| 22:52.51 | JeffM2501 | and OGF is a SF project |
| 22:52.58 | JeffM2501 | so ibot don't know what it is |
| 22:53.38 | RPG_ | ~ogf is a library for openGL games based ontop of SDL. Its primary goals are ease of developer use and use of existing game formats and concepts. The library builds heavaly on C++ and object oriented design, and is designed to be totaly cross platform. http://sourceforge.net/projects/ogf |
| 22:53.41 | ibot | okay, RPG_ |
| 22:53.59 | JeffM2501 | but ogf is ugly |
| 22:54.11 | RPG_ | at least it's got a definitno now |
| 22:54.18 | JeffM2501 | it had one before :) |
| 22:55.08 | RPG_ | oh |
| 22:55.55 | RPG_ | JeffM: it's in your e-mail inbox |
| 22:57.15 | JeffM2501 | danke |
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| 22:58.39 | JeffM2501 | dude that's prety easy to set up, nice work |
| 22:58.47 | RPG_ | only took a day |
| 22:58.48 | RPG_ | thaks |
| 22:58.54 | JeffM2501 | very slick |
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