| 00:00.01 | blast007 | connect to 127.0.0.1 with port 5154 |
| 00:03.18 | cody6375 | not to sound stupid (which I'm starting to wonder) do I type this in the command prompt? |
| 00:03.53 | ndim | you do (the former, not the latter) |
| 00:03.56 | ndim | :) |
| 00:04.05 | blast007 | you don't have to |
| 00:04.33 | blast007 | just launch bzflag, and type in 127.0.0.1 for the server, and 5154 for the port |
| 00:04.35 | Ice_Wewe | All I know was it was a $20 switch... |
| 00:04.49 | blast007 | Ice_Wewe: switch? |
| 00:04.50 | Aribeth | heh |
| 00:04.52 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: or you can type "localhost" |
| 00:04.56 | blast007 | we're talking about routers :) |
| 00:05.00 | Ice_Wewe | meh |
| 00:05.03 | Ice_Wewe | ;) |
| 00:05.28 | blast007 | yup, localhost works too |
| 00:05.30 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: I know the difference... |
| 00:05.40 | *** part/#bzflag longhair (n=shane@pool-151-205-205-187.cap.east.verizon.net) |
| 00:05.45 | Aribeth | O.o |
| 00:05.46 | blast007 | didn't say you didn't know the difference |
| 00:06.00 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: or, if you use computers with names (ohh, the thought!) you can connect to the computer's name, and let your DNS do it work |
| 00:06.10 | Ice_Wewe | we have a 60Mhz DNS server... |
| 00:06.15 | cody6375 | I'm still lost do I type this at the windows command prompt |
| 00:06.21 | Ice_Wewe | ohh boy |
| 00:06.22 | blast007 | cody6375: no |
| 00:06.28 | blast007 | just run bzflag |
| 00:06.31 | Ice_Wewe | cody6375: Launch BZFlag |
| 00:06.39 | *** join/#bzflag wizart (n=wizart@dslb-084-058-129-156.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 00:06.48 | cody6375 | it's bneen running |
| 00:06.50 | Ice_Wewe | cody6375: type in "Server: 127.0.0.1" |
| 00:06.59 | Ice_Wewe | cody6375: "Port: 5154" |
| 00:06.59 | cody6375 | and yes I'm in it |
| 00:07.14 | Ice_Wewe | then enter what I JUST told you to do... |
| 00:07.28 | Ice_Wewe | under the server area |
| 00:07.34 | Ice_Wewe | type 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:07.37 | Ice_Wewe | and under Port, type 5154 |
| 00:07.59 | Ice_Wewe | (if you can't figure out how to connnect to your own server, it will remain a mystery to me as to how you even got it running...) |
| 00:08.23 | blast007 | hehe |
| 00:08.31 | blast007 | and here I'm just getting into IT ;) |
| 00:08.35 | Ice_Wewe | I like it |
| 00:08.45 | Ice_Wewe | I've run about 10 servers on this computer at the same time |
| 00:08.57 | Aribeth | i loved it once, now i hate it |
| 00:09.00 | cody6375 | okay I typed it in did I need to start the server first ? |
| 00:09.05 | Ice_Wewe | It'd be easier on my PowerBook, cause it has Gigabit Ethernet... this machine only has 10/100 |
| 00:09.05 | blast007 | cody6375: no |
| 00:09.14 | blast007 | 100mbit is fine |
| 00:09.16 | Ice_Wewe | >:P |
| 00:09.26 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: I know, I just strive for better |
| 00:09.28 | blast007 | your internet connection can probably do what, 3mbps? 5mbps? |
| 00:09.36 | Ice_Wewe | 3mbps |
| 00:09.41 | cody6375 | it came back with and erroe connecting to server |
| 00:09.42 | Ice_Wewe | heh ;) |
| 00:09.55 | blast007 | cody6375: then there we go, your server isn't set up right |
| 00:09.56 | Ice_Wewe | cody6375: then yes, you DO need to restart it |
| 00:10.15 | Ice_Wewe | cody6375: also make sure you aren't running any firewall software that could be blocking the port |
| 00:10.17 | blast007 | Ice_Wewe: he was asking about starting from the client i think |
| 00:10.20 | cody6375 | now if i type local host it works |
| 00:10.48 | blast007 | I dislike that Start Server menu...it confuses people who are used to other games with such an option |
| 00:10.48 | Aribeth | im all girl baybe :) |
| 00:11.28 | trepan | blast007: i think it should be ripped out, for different reasons |
| 00:11.45 | blast007 | :) |
| 00:12.27 | Ice_Wewe | trepan: why? because they settings are for a two year old? because its random maps suck? because of the lack of options? because its a *packet intercepted by CIA* to code in? |
| 00:12.41 | cody6375 | okay here is what happened so far when I asked If I had to start a server I was told no when I typed in the addy it came back with no server found, when I started the server and typed the addy in it worked |
| 00:12.53 | cody6375 | now how to I get it setup on the net |
| 00:12.55 | cody6375 | ? |
| 00:13.05 | Ice_Wewe | come on |
| 00:13.07 | blast007 | cody6375: and what method did you use to start the server? |
| 00:13.16 | Ice_Wewe | you can barely get it working, and you want to make it a public server?! |
| 00:13.25 | cody6375 | went to start then startserver |
| 00:13.41 | Aribeth | pewh |
| 00:13.41 | Ice_Wewe | Brb |
| 00:13.43 | Aribeth | :P |
| 00:13.44 | blast007 | in the client? |
| 00:13.51 | trepan | Ice_Wewe: don't bother |
| 00:13.58 | Aribeth | lol |
| 00:14.02 | Ice_Wewe | trepan: why not? |
| 00:14.27 | Aribeth | Icw_Wewe dosn't like Ari :( |
| 00:14.29 | cody6375 | I clicked on bzflag and the game menu came up I went to start and so forth' |
| 00:14.31 | Ice_Wewe | trepan: and don't make a comment about my playing skills, they have nothing to do with showers!!! Just because I drop the soap often does not make me a clutz! |
| 00:14.50 | Ice_Wewe | you were saying? |
| 00:15.02 | Aribeth | heheeee |
| 00:15.07 | Ice_Wewe | ;) |
| 00:15.09 | blast007 | cody6375: I think you need to learn more about running a server before you make a public one |
| 00:15.32 | Aribeth | ~lart Ice_Wewe |
| 00:15.36 | cody6375 | I just one to set one up for the people I work with |
| 00:15.45 | Ice_Wewe | ~whaleslap Aribeth |
| 00:15.47 | ibot | I'll just grab a freakishly huge killer whale named Hugh and slap Aribeth over the head with it..... |
| 00:15.51 | Aribeth | yummm |
| 00:16.07 | Aribeth | hugh is soo cute |
| 00:16.22 | Ice_Wewe | stop.... I'm gonna die from laughing..... |
| 00:16.30 | Aribeth | die, die |
| 00:17.32 | blast007 | cody6375: check out http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer |
| 00:18.12 | blast007 | I'd also recommend this for the command line settings: http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzfs.6s |
| 00:18.57 | trepan | ~bzfs |
| 00:18.58 | ibot | somebody said bzfs was the BZflag server, you need: -publicaddr server.name.com:5154 *and* -public " come play here" must be set in your bzfs.conf, *also* open the port (5154 in this case) in your firewall/router *also* see http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer, or see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 00:19.18 | trepan | (for future reference ;) |
| 00:19.25 | blast007 | hehe :) |
| 00:19.36 | blast007 | that would save a bit of time |
| 00:23.51 | *** join/#bzflag Water_Wewe (n=Water_We@ppp-216-106-107-249.storm.ca) |
| 00:24.29 | *** part/#bzflag Water_Wewe (n=Water_We@ppp-216-106-107-249.storm.ca) |
| 00:27.15 | Aribeth | ~lart Ice_Wewe |
| 00:27.20 | Aribeth | lol |
| 00:28.41 | cody6375 | ~bzfquery ozsoft.biz:5154 |
| 00:29.19 | Ice_Wewe | ~frag Aribeth |
| 00:29.21 | ibot | ACTION readies the nuke launcher and fires some rounds at Aribeth |
| 00:29.31 | blast007 | cody6375: still isn't running or forwarded properly |
| 00:29.52 | cody6375 | ~bzfquery ozsoft.biz:5154 |
| 00:29.52 | Ice_Wewe | ~bzfrag Aribeth |
| 00:29.54 | ibot | ACTION makes Aribeth feel the effects of a shockwave |
| 00:30.10 | cody6375 | I forgot to start it |
| 00:30.15 | Ice_Wewe | ~hit Aribeth |
| 00:30.17 | ibot | ACTION kicks Aribeth. |
| 00:30.22 | blast007 | ... |
| 00:30.37 | cody6375 | but it still don't seem to be working |
| 00:30.58 | blast007 | cody6375: nope, doesn't seem to be working for me |
| 00:31.11 | Aribeth | lol |
| 00:31.34 | Aribeth | you can lift walls? |
| 00:31.41 | Ice_Wewe | I can with the Wall flag |
| 00:31.47 | Aribeth | hah |
| 00:31.54 | Ice_Wewe | also if they're light |
| 00:31.54 | blast007 | he can create walls of ice |
| 00:31.58 | Ice_Wewe | heh |
| 00:31.59 | Ice_Wewe | I like that |
| 00:32.11 | Aribeth | yellow walls of ice |
| 00:32.13 | blast007 | so you not only get hit, you get freezer burn |
| 00:32.14 | Aribeth | :P |
| 00:32.29 | Ice_Wewe | hehe |
| 00:32.30 | blast007 | yellow streams of ice if it's _really_ cold |
| 00:32.48 | *** join/#bzflag SportChick (n=SportChi@ca-redbch-cuda1-c3b-a-40.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 00:32.55 | Aribeth | don't eat that yellow sno where the huskies go :P |
| 00:33.04 | Ice_Wewe | "~~~ BEWARE: The wall of Ice advances! ~~~" |
| 00:33.23 | Ice_Wewe | blast007: dua, Canada... |
| 00:33.49 | cody6375 | ~bzfquery ozsoft.biz:5154 |
| 00:34.00 | Ice_Wewe | hodes? |
| 00:34.01 | blast007 | stream, as in a downward arc starting from waist height :) |
| 00:34.05 | Aribeth | hoses* |
| 00:34.07 | Ice_Wewe | roflmao |
| 00:34.15 | Aribeth | yep |
| 00:34.26 | Aribeth | oh god thats just grose |
| 00:34.26 | blast007 | oh dear, look what I started now.. |
| 00:34.34 | Ice_Wewe | oh yesss |
| 00:34.35 | Ice_Wewe | brb |
| 00:34.37 | *** part/#bzflag Ice_Wewe (n=Ice_Wewe@ppp-216-106-107-249.storm.ca) |
| 00:34.49 | Aribeth | and he ducks out just in time |
| 00:35.28 | *** join/#bzflag Water_Wewe (n=Water_We@ppp-216-106-107-249.storm.ca) |
| 00:35.29 | Water_Wewe | back |
| 00:35.38 | blast007 | maybe cody6375 should flash his router with output from /dev/zero |
| 00:35.40 | Aribeth | you melted |
| 00:35.45 | Water_Wewe | I would have come back as Ice_Wewe, but I forgot to log off |
| 00:35.49 | Water_Wewe | >.< |
| 00:35.56 | blast007 | you can always /nick |
| 00:36.02 | Water_Wewe | Aribeth: I had to keep up with global warming and stuff |
| 00:36.09 | Aribeth | hah |
| 00:36.20 | Water_Wewe | blast007: Can't, I'm still logged onto another channel (this is my lappy, that was my desktop) |
| 00:36.28 | Aribeth | ~lart Water_wewe |
| 00:36.30 | Water_Wewe | mmmm laptop... |
| 00:36.40 | Aribeth | :) |
| 00:37.02 | Water_Wewe | mmmmm dirt, manure, and fish heads..... *crunch* |
| 00:37.16 | Water_Wewe | my favourite, how did you know? |
| 00:37.35 | Aribeth | hands* |
| 00:38.25 | Aribeth | chum is what fisers use to atract sharks and such |
| 00:38.36 | Inferno285 | ~chum |
| 00:38.37 | Water_Wewe | I meant the hands/hade stuff |
| 00:38.44 | Water_Wewe | ~dict chum |
| 00:38.52 | blast007 | heh |
| 00:38.58 | Aribeth | so i cant spell |
| 00:38.59 | Water_Wewe | Inferno285: must include the ~dict |
| 00:39.13 | Water_Wewe | is this a flaw with all Women, or just you? |
| 00:39.20 | Inferno285 | oh, didn't know that |
| 00:39.26 | blast007 | Water_Wewe: are you laggy, or just not observent? |
| 00:39.26 | Aribeth | oooooooo |
| 00:39.26 | *** join/#bzflag ep (n=ep@ip68-228-169-106.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 00:39.27 | Water_Wewe | Inferno285: Now you do |
| 00:39.39 | Inferno285 | yeh, thanks |
| 00:39.51 | blast007 | if there was a factoid 'chum' it would have worked fine |
| 00:39.52 | Aribeth | Water_Wewe is just slow |
| 00:39.58 | blast007 | so no, you don't NEED dict |
| 00:40.02 | Water_Wewe | blast007: a little of both, when I'm not on a sugar high, things tend to get through my head a little slower than normal |
| 00:40.18 | Water_Wewe | blast007: if you want a dictionary definition you do |
| 00:40.32 | Inferno285 | yeh yeh, ok. |
| 00:40.41 | blast007 | ~chum |
| 00:40.43 | ibot | rumour has it, chum is <see> dict chum |
| 00:40.46 | blast007 | darn :) |
| 00:40.49 | Water_Wewe | haha |
| 00:41.02 | Water_Wewe | to quote Stewie "Victory is ours!" |
| 00:41.08 | blast007 | ;D |
| 00:41.13 | Aribeth | chum is fish heads, guts, etc |
| 00:41.16 | Water_Wewe | actually its "Victory is mine!" |
| 00:41.16 | Inferno285 | ~Water_Wewe |
| 00:41.21 | Water_Wewe | heh |
| 00:41.35 | Water_Wewe | if you did ~Ice_Wewe, I'm sure you'd show up with |
| 00:41.44 | Aribeth | ~fishslap Water_Wewe |
| 00:41.45 | ibot | ACTION slaps Water_Wewe up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 00:42.13 | blast007 | ~chum |
| 00:42.20 | blast007 | there we go :) |
| 00:42.40 | Water_Wewe | "An annoying little brat, who wont can it, wont go away, and needs a talking to every 5 seconds. If you see him, please call animal control ASAP! Beware, this teen is armed with the most advanced annoy technology known to man, and will use it at every available oppertunity..." |
| 00:43.04 | Water_Wewe | sorry, I can touch type, but that took a while... |
| 00:43.52 | Aribeth | hummm...sounds like someone here |
| 00:43.58 | Water_Wewe | I wonder if there is ~witchslap (except not with witch, but with something that sounds similar...) |
| 00:44.09 | Water_Wewe | Aribeth, that was about me, so it should... |
| 00:44.31 | Aribeth | witchslap?? |
| 00:44.44 | Aribeth | you callin me a witch? |
| 00:44.49 | Water_Wewe | Aribeth, yes, perhaps I should have said ~femaledogslap |
| 00:45.22 | Water_Wewe | Aribeth: far from it, although I don't know you that well, so it is possible... *Water_Wewe is turned into a toad by Aribeth* |
| 00:45.39 | Inferno285 | yay |
| 00:45.49 | Inferno285 | ~Aribeth++ |
| 00:45.55 | Water_Wewe | *croak* |
| 00:45.59 | Aribeth | :) |
| 00:46.10 | Water_Wewe | wat? and none for her faithful toad? |
| 00:46.19 | Aribeth | nope |
| 00:46.31 | Inferno285 | ~Water_Wewe-- |
| 00:46.33 | Inferno285 | :p |
| 00:46.39 | Water_Wewe | I don't think that works |
| 00:46.44 | Water_Wewe | ~karma Water_Wewe |
| 00:46.44 | ibot | water_wewe has karma of -1 |
| 00:46.47 | Water_Wewe | nuts |
| 00:46.49 | Water_Wewe | it does! |
| 00:46.51 | Water_Wewe | curses |
| 00:46.59 | Water_Wewe | ~karma Ice_Wewe |
| 00:46.59 | ibot | ice_wewe has karma of 2 |
| 00:47.00 | Aribeth | shocks* |
| 00:47.08 | Water_Wewe | oh well, at least I'm above 0 there |
| 00:47.14 | Inferno285 | ~karma |
| 00:47.14 | ibot | inferno285 has karma of -1 |
| 00:47.21 | Inferno285 | what? |
| 00:47.34 | Water_Wewe | ~Inferno285++ |
| 00:47.43 | Inferno285 | thanks :) |
| 00:47.48 | Water_Wewe | welcome |
| 00:47.55 | Aribeth | ~karma Aribeth |
| 00:47.55 | ibot | aribeth has karma of 26 |
| 00:48.17 | Inferno285 | ~karma JeffM2501 |
| 00:48.17 | ibot | jeffm2501 has karma of 315 |
| 00:48.22 | Water_Wewe | WOW! |
| 00:48.24 | Inferno285 | woah! |
| 00:48.29 | Aribeth | yep |
| 00:48.34 | Water_Wewe | I wish I was that popular... oh wait, there is a reason why I'm not |
| 00:48.41 | Water_Wewe | ~karma TimRiker |
| 00:48.41 | ibot | timriker has neutral karma |
| 00:48.42 | Aribeth | yep |
| 00:48.49 | Water_Wewe | ~TimRiker++ |
| 00:48.57 | TimRiker | :) |
| 00:49.00 | Inferno285 | I think TimRiker did something to Jeffs karma (cheated) |
| 00:49.08 | Water_Wewe | why would he have to? |
| 00:49.16 | Inferno285 | true |
| 00:49.23 | TimRiker | I merged jeff's old karma into his current nick. |
| 00:49.30 | Inferno285 | oh, ok |
| 00:49.31 | Water_Wewe | Jeff could just go nuts with another nickname, giving himself tonnes of karma |
| 00:49.51 | *** join/#bzflag wizatmac (n=wiz@208.255.149.253) |
| 00:49.55 | Water_Wewe | TimRiker: when do I get that treatment? When I get off my can and start developing BZFlag? |
| 00:49.58 | Inferno285 | I don't think he would. |
| 00:50.18 | TimRiker | Water_Wewe: heh. my paypal account is.... ;-) |
| 00:50.24 | blast007 | lol |
| 00:50.27 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 00:50.38 | Aribeth | mine is...;) |
| 00:50.42 | Water_Wewe | TimRiker: hey hey hey! I may be Water, and Ice, but there is one thing I'm not, and thats money... |
| 00:51.04 | Aribeth | someone have a big sponge? |
| 00:51.10 | Water_Wewe | Congratulations... Money_Wewe is BZBB's newest Member! |
| 00:51.26 | Water_Wewe | no? Want me to become Vapour Wewe? |
| 00:51.32 | Aribeth | someone left a mess on the floor ;) |
| 00:52.02 | Aribeth | heh |
| 00:52.14 | blast007 | Aribeth: here: http://www.daveread.com/FlowerGardens/February99/large/big-sponge.jpg |
| 00:52.25 | Water_Wewe | Aribeth: thats what you get when women can't control their excitement when their male gets home, most of them can deal with it though, I'll get you a sponge |
| 00:53.10 | TimRiker | Water_Wewe: keep it clean please. |
| 00:53.22 | Water_Wewe | TimRiker: ok capt'n |
| 00:54.16 | TimRiker | ~bzfrag Water_Wewe |
| 00:54.17 | ibot | ACTION squishes Water_Wewe with a steamroller |
| 00:54.26 | Aribeth | :) |
| 00:54.39 | Aribeth | ~bzfrag Water_Wewe |
| 00:54.40 | ibot | ACTION kills Water_Wewe with a shot from his BZTank |
| 00:54.41 | Water_Wewe | TimRiker: thats not fair, I already used ~bzfrag, there should be a originality prize! |
| 00:55.06 | Water_Wewe | ~kill Aribeth |
| 00:55.07 | ibot | ACTION shoots a super-inverse pseudoelectron gun at Aribeth |
| 00:55.07 | Inferno285 | ~bzfrag Water_Wewe |
| 00:55.10 | ibot | ACTION tries to kill Water_Wewe, but finds the shield flag |
| 00:55.18 | Water_Wewe | HAHA! |
| 00:55.19 | Aribeth | ~Water_Wewe-- |
| 00:55.23 | Water_Wewe | awww |
| 00:55.42 | Water_Wewe | my karma is taking a hit... perhaps I should go soon.. |
| 00:56.10 | Inferno285 | ~dict karma |
| 00:56.13 | Aribeth | :) |
| 00:56.24 | *** join/#bzflag cody6375 (n=44380596@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:56.34 | Water_Wewe | ohhh boy, I guess I'm doomed to be a polition next life... *sigh* |
| 00:56.47 | Inferno285 | I wanna be a cow, what should my karma be for that Arbety? |
| 00:57.05 | Aribeth | it will never work |
| 00:57.11 | cody6375 | ~bzfquery ozsoft.biz:5154 |
| 00:57.28 | Aribeth | poof, inferno285 is a cow pie |
| 00:57.31 | Water_Wewe | hey Aribeth, have you seen Aragetton? |
| 00:57.34 | Water_Wewe | hehe |
| 00:57.42 | Inferno285 | moooooooooo |
| 00:57.53 | Aribeth | rofl |
| 00:57.58 | Water_Wewe | Aribeth: "Now for a limited time at McDonalds, its Inferno AAA class beef!" |
| 00:58.09 | Aribeth | yuck |
| 00:58.25 | Water_Wewe | hehe |
| 00:58.25 | Inferno285 | MOOO |
| 00:58.30 | Water_Wewe | roflmao |
| 00:58.42 | cody6375 | ~bzfquery ozsoft.biz:5154 |
| 00:58.45 | Water_Wewe | well, I should go, I have 3 web browers demanding my attition.... |
| 00:58.54 | Water_Wewe | maybe this is why I use so much swap *gape* |
| 00:58.56 | Inferno285 | heh, ok |
| 00:59.01 | blast007 | cody6375: I see no change in my port scan... |
| 00:59.08 | Aribeth | heh |
| 00:59.09 | blast007 | so it still isn't working |
| 00:59.27 | Water_Wewe | well, talk to you later, don't drive my karma to much into the ground while I'm gone... |
| 00:59.28 | *** part/#bzflag Water_Wewe (n=Water_We@ppp-216-106-107-249.storm.ca) |
| 00:59.41 | blast007 | ...finally |
| 00:59.42 | *** join/#bzflag lan56 (i=lan56@user-vcautqh.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 01:00.01 | cody6375 | I don't know what is wrong I have to get to bed now I have to be up and to work by 2 so I will have to try again tomorrow |
| 01:00.01 | Aribeth | that took a long time |
| 01:00.37 | Inferno285 | ~seen ibot |
| 01:00.40 | ibot | ibot is currently on #openzaurus (1d 47m 30s) #gpe (1d 47m 30s) #silvercat (1d 47m 30s) #opie (1d 47m 30s) #bzflag (1d 47m 30s) #familiar (1d 47m 30s) #brlcad (1d 47m 30s) #uclibc (1d 47m 30s) #handhelds.org (1d 47m 30s) #utah (1d 47m 30s) #oe (1d 47m 30s) #zaurus (1d 47m 30s) #elinux (1d ... |
| 01:02.56 | *** join/#bzflag Thumper_away (n=bernt@CPE000102d0fe75-CM0012256ecbde.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 01:03.06 | Inferno285 | *lalalalalalalalalala* |
| 01:03.41 | JeffM2501 | daria? |
| 01:06.59 | Aribeth | !weather 30040 |
| 01:07.02 | Guu | Aribeth: The current temperature in Weather Underground is 28°F. |
| 01:07.22 | Inferno285 | Guu?? |
| 01:07.24 | Aribeth | hummm..something wrong with that me thinks |
| 01:07.50 | Inferno285 | is Guu a bot? |
| 01:08.06 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 01:09.34 | Inferno285 | does anyone here work for Honeywell? |
| 01:09.58 | Inferno285 | it's a company... |
| 01:10.29 | *** join/#bzflag wegstar (n=foo@allegro/user/wegstar) |
| 01:20.15 | Aribeth | no, i thought honnywell was a well of honey ;) |
| 01:20.56 | Inferno285 | ask budha, it's a global company that has some fame there. |
| 01:21.32 | *** join/#bzflag cody6375 (n=44380596@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 01:21.41 | cody6375 | ~bzfquery bzflag.secretplace.us:5255 |
| 01:22.05 | Aribeth | i was being sarcastic |
| 01:22.08 | cody6375 | ~bzfquery ozsoft.biz:5154 |
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| 01:23.50 | copdy6375 | ~bzfquery ozsoft.biz:5154 |
| 01:23.59 | copdy6375 | :) |
| 01:24.45 | copdy6375 | ~bzfquery ozsoft.biz:5154 |
| 01:25.16 | copdy6375 | ~bzfquery ozsoft.biz:5154 |
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| 02:19.12 | SilentSwan | http://www.faber-castell.de/docs/index-news.asp?id=14507&sp=E&m1=10329&m2=17234&m3=14507&m4=&domid=1010 |
| 02:19.17 | SilentSwan | Now *that* is innovation |
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| 02:29.25 | Inferno285 | :-* |
| 02:31.56 | Aribeth | lol |
| 02:33.11 | Aribeth | i like |
| 02:35.49 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: that is QUITE funny! roflmao |
| 02:35.56 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: how did you find that? |
| 02:36.18 | Aribeth | :) |
| 02:36.30 | SilentSwan | it was posted in the topic on another channel |
| 02:37.03 | SilentSwan | i tried using it, but all i get are these little marks on my screen :( |
| 02:37.12 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 02:38.33 | Aribeth | it works well on wood |
| 02:41.29 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: is it an LCD? because is so, be glad you didn't do more permanent damage... |
| 02:41.46 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: yes, thats a laugh, I might just have to print that out... |
| 02:42.02 | Ice_Wewe | what? |
| 02:42.19 | SilentSwan | nothing |
| 02:42.27 | Aribeth | if you like that, then google for the butter pda that sold on ebay a few years ago |
| 02:42.48 | Aribeth | :P |
| 02:43.03 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: I have a feeling this can only go in one direction... laughter |
| 02:43.33 | Aribeth | Ice_Wewe turns into a crispy critter |
| 02:43.56 | blast007 | dang, the light must have reflected off the ice, and hit TD-Linux :( |
| 02:43.57 | Aribeth | hah |
| 02:44.00 | SilentSwan | uhh |
| 02:44.15 | SilentSwan | well, this is nice.. firefox isn't seeing the java plugin |
| 02:44.36 | blast007 | http://www.gearworks.com/images/butterpalm_postcard.jpg |
| 02:45.02 | Ice_Wewe | SilentSwan: heh, I tried installing 1.5 RC2 where my 1.6 was, and nothing happened... |
| 02:45.35 | Aribeth | yep thats it |
| 02:45.40 | Ice_Wewe | Aribeth: ohh boy, I wonder how much it actually sold for |
| 02:46.25 | SilentSwan | good lord... more aggravataion |
| 02:47.22 | Aribeth | i think it went for 200.00 or 400.00 |
| 02:47.36 | Ice_Wewe | Did it have a cream CPU? |
| 02:47.44 | Aribeth | geez |
| 02:47.53 | Ice_Wewe | later |
| 02:48.15 | Aribeth | no, it has an abynormal brain |
| 02:48.18 | Aribeth | :P |
| 02:50.22 | blast007 | ah, the pda was from 2001 |
| 02:50.28 | Aribeth | yep |
| 02:50.33 | blast007 | so it's no longer in eBay's system |
| 02:50.37 | Aribeth | ya |
| 02:51.27 | blast007 | so neither will the "creatively bent paperclip" that a classmate of mine won the bid for :) |
| 02:51.46 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 02:51.57 | blast007 | went for less than a dollar |
| 02:52.34 | Aribeth | heh, costs more to list it than it sold for? |
| 02:52.45 | blast007 | probably ;) |
| 02:53.06 | blast007 | the seller said he got bored during a meeting |
| 02:53.12 | Aribeth | heh |
| 02:53.13 | blast007 | and he had a paperclip..sooo |
| 02:54.06 | Aribeth | cya |
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| 04:40.37 | Inferno285 | "SilentSwan left the room (quit: "Wanted: rich lesbian. Accepting applications.")." OMFG!! |
| 04:41.48 | Aribeth | its unsettling to find out the world isn't quite what you envisioned isn't it |
| 04:42.27 | Aribeth | for me, i've been around for 52 years. seen alota things in that time |
| 04:42.34 | Inferno285 | I know there are lesbians, just not a person on IRC #bzflag. Proclaming that. |
| 04:42.38 | Aribeth | nothing suprises me anymore |
| 04:43.06 | Aribeth | facts of life |
| 04:43.24 | Aribeth | jej |
| 04:43.26 | Aribeth | heh |
| 04:43.35 | Inferno285 | is that against your religion? (lesbs) |
| 04:43.48 | blast007 | ... |
| 04:43.52 | Inferno285 | budaism :) |
| 04:43.56 | Aribeth | not sure, never thought about it |
| 04:44.18 | Aribeth | it don't bother me though |
| 04:44.34 | Aribeth | ie. no biggie |
| 04:44.45 | Aribeth | everyone is different |
| 04:44.48 | Inferno285 | yeh, it doesn't "bother" me eaith :) |
| 04:44.56 | Inferno285 | *either* |
| 04:45.10 | Aribeth | you raised an eyebrow though |
| 04:45.58 | Inferno285 | usually when I see lesbians I get mad though because they are cheating themsleves, and some good honest man out there :P |
| 04:46.41 | Aribeth | well, it really has more to do with genetics |
| 04:47.37 | Aribeth | and hormones given to pregnet women in the 1950's |
| 04:47.51 | Aribeth | to prevent misscarages |
| 04:48.00 | Inferno285 | really :S |
| 04:48.04 | Aribeth | yep |
| 04:48.11 | Aribeth | one was called DES |
| 04:48.19 | Inferno285 | homos are nothing new |
| 04:48.22 | Aribeth | or something like that |
| 04:48.34 | Aribeth | but they were new in the 50's |
| 04:48.59 | blast007 | first result for DES: Data Encryption Standard :) |
| 04:49.04 | Aribeth | doctors didnt know what they were doing and what long term effects were |
| 04:49.05 | Inferno285 | ok, in "my bible" it talks about homos in old days. |
| 04:49.47 | Aribeth | the word homo isnt really properly discriptive |
| 04:50.00 | Aribeth | its more derogatory |
| 04:50.21 | Aribeth | its a medical condition |
| 04:50.31 | Aribeth | not a choice |
| 04:52.37 | Inferno285 | is it passed threw generations? ;) |
| 04:53.04 | Aribeth | it all comes down to accepting people for who and what they are |
| 04:53.16 | Aribeth | no |
| 04:54.07 | Aribeth | the hormones used in the 50's had some side evffects |
| 04:54.18 | Inferno285 | do you feel rejected by me for being a budhist person? |
| 04:54.29 | Inferno285 | oh, ok |
| 04:54.39 | Aribeth | at 6 and 12 weeks into pregnancy there are hormone releases |
| 04:55.20 | Aribeth | if for any reason the cycle is interupted there can be side effects |
| 04:55.22 | Inferno285 | hormones as in doctor added hormones? |
| 04:55.27 | Aribeth | yes |
| 04:55.45 | Inferno285 | oh, but they don't do that anymore, right? |
| 04:56.14 | Aribeth | right, but the cycle can get messed up naturaly too |
| 04:57.15 | Aribeth | so we all start out as female, then if its a boy the proper hormones will come into play |
| 04:57.43 | Aribeth | the brain and body are developed seperatly |
| 04:57.50 | Aribeth | at 6 and 12 weeks |
| 04:58.36 | Aribeth | so if the brain is femail, and something interfers with the natural development the body can become male |
| 04:59.01 | Aribeth | yet the brain is still female |
| 04:59.40 | Aribeth | did i loose you? |
| 05:00.16 | Aribeth | heh |
| 05:00.42 | Aribeth | i have a friend that is going from female to male |
| 05:00.53 | Aribeth | so i did some research on it |
| 05:01.36 | Aribeth | hi learner |
| 05:02.25 | learner | howdy! |
| 05:03.59 | Aribeth | inferno285, no rejection at all |
| 05:04.20 | Aribeth | hello jpa- |
| 05:05.10 | Inferno285 | "i have a friend that is going from female to male" is this against budhism either? |
| 05:05.16 | learner | i sure wish there was a gym open around here right now, I could really go for a hard workout |
| 05:05.19 | jpa- | hi ari |
| 05:05.22 | Aribeth | no |
| 05:06.08 | Aribeth | i accept many things and many religoens |
| 05:06.39 | learner | you accept diner's club? |
| 05:06.50 | Aribeth | heh, no not that :P |
| 05:07.00 | learner | drat |
| 05:07.20 | Inferno285 | I gotta go, ttyl all |
| 05:07.24 | Aribeth | cya |
| 05:07.44 | learner | your presence will be sorely missed |
| 05:08.01 | Inferno285 | really :S |
| 05:08.09 | learner | by someone, somewhere, sometime |
| 05:08.17 | Inferno285 | thanks anyway :) |
| 05:08.29 | Inferno285 | ~learner++ |
| 05:09.30 | learner | i guess this isn't the time yet |
| 05:09.38 | Aribeth | heh |
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| 05:10.20 | Aribeth | homescholled kids can be sheltered to much from the real world |
| 05:11.01 | Aribeth | and when they find what it really like its a bit unsettling |
| 05:11.06 | learner | homeschooled ones too ;) |
| 05:11.23 | Aribeth | oops, i cant spell today |
| 05:15.46 | Aribeth | my spelling is getting worse i think |
| 05:19.42 | learner | must have learned something new ;) |
| 05:19.57 | Aribeth | heh |
| 05:19.58 | learner | in with the new, out with the old |
| 05:21.07 | Aribeth | i never could spell very well, and sleep deprivation does not help |
| 05:23.27 | Aribeth | for me i think its out with the new and in with the old ;) |
| 05:25.07 | Aribeth | hiya orange |
| 05:25.21 | orange | hi there |
| 05:25.28 | Aribeth | still up? |
| 05:25.30 | orange | how's your back? |
| 05:25.36 | Aribeth | much better |
| 05:25.42 | orange | yep, still up... good to hear |
| 05:27.10 | Aribeth | !weather 30040 |
| 05:27.13 | Guu | Aribeth: The current temperature in Weather Underground is 31°F. |
| 05:27.35 | orange | no way |
| 05:27.41 | Aribeth | its 38 |
| 05:28.18 | Aribeth | guu is getting closer though. guu said it was 20 degrees earlier |
| 05:28.56 | orange | it's 48 here |
| 05:29.01 | blast007 | ~weather 53545 |
| 05:29.08 | blast007 | er |
| 05:29.11 | blast007 | !weather 53545 |
| 05:29.13 | Guu | blast007: The current temperature in Weather Underground is 37°F. |
| 05:30.09 | Aribeth | somethin amiss there with guu |
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| 05:31.22 | Aribeth | !weather 30040 |
| 05:31.25 | Guu | Aribeth: The current temperature in Weather Underground is 31°F. |
| 05:31.44 | lan56 | did you get any snow? |
| 05:31.45 | Aribeth | 7 degrees off |
| 05:31.51 | Aribeth | nope |
| 05:32.01 | lan56 | ahh |
| 05:32.03 | Aribeth | its clear here |
| 05:32.45 | Aribeth | its 38.5 here |
| 05:32.59 | lan56 | I see |
| 05:33.47 | Aribeth | 31 is the dew point |
| 05:34.09 | Aribeth | lol |
| 05:34.24 | Aribeth | thats prolly what guu is reporting |
| 05:35.15 | blast007 | http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=30040 |
| 05:35.22 | blast007 | that's where guu gets stuff |
| 05:35.38 | blast007 | they changed their site a bit, and it broke supybot |
| 05:35.52 | Aribeth | yep |
| 05:35.53 | blast007 | also, guu is running older code |
| 05:36.26 | blast007 | !version |
| 05:36.28 | Guu | blast007: The current (running) version of this Supybot is 0.80.0pre2. The newest version available online is 0.83.1. |
| 05:37.00 | Aribeth | guu needs an updrade |
| 05:37.01 | Guu | Aribeth: But I am le-tired. |
| 05:37.17 | Aribeth | heh |
| 05:38.27 | blast007 | :) |
| 05:40.53 | Aribeth | guu time to retread |
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| 05:52.29 | Roxport | does anyone know BinarySpike? |
| 05:53.01 | Aribeth | whats a binary spike :P |
| 05:53.27 | Roxport | lol, sorry. i mean the callsign BinarySpike. |
| 05:53.53 | Aribeth | i know. im in one of those moods |
| 05:53.59 | learner | depends why you're looking for him/her ;) |
| 05:54.01 | Aribeth | havn't seen him |
| 05:54.20 | Roxport | no, he was just in my server. i was talking to him/her. not looking for anyone right now. |
| 05:54.34 | Roxport | just making sure they don't have a negative history or anything, in bz i mean |
| 05:54.48 | Roxport | background check, if you will. |
| 05:55.42 | Aribeth | background checks are 35.95 |
| 05:55.49 | Aribeth | :) |
| 05:56.12 | Roxport | awesome! over at #bzflag-xyz, they wanted $400! |
| 05:56.18 | Roxport | what a bargain! |
| 05:56.44 | Aribeth | thats the first payment of many :P |
| 05:57.28 | Roxport | BinarySpike is active on bzbb.bzflag.org i'll PM there. |
| 05:59.10 | Roxport | how can i save output from bzadmin to a file? |
| 05:59.21 | Roxport | running it from linux |
| 06:05.31 | trepan | bzadmin -ui stdboth [options] | tee logfile |
| 06:06.55 | Roxport | trepan: thanks |
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| 07:06.57 | SportChick | menotume: ping |
| 07:08.02 | ToughShooter | Morning SC |
| 07:08.52 | ToughShooter | SportChick: menotume has 2AM, IIRC |
| 07:09.13 | SportChick | ToughShooter: oh ok |
| 07:09.48 | ToughShooter | The one who invented timezones is evil |
| 07:22.03 | learner | 2am and he's sleeping?? pfft |
| 07:24.35 | ToughShooter | learner: well, that's what he should do ;) |
| 07:24.41 | _Manu_ | good night learner :) |
| 07:24.57 | learner | :) |
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| 07:36.22 | ToughShooter_ | leaner: I tried many times and I am no longer able to reproduce the effect where my keyboard input is ignored |
| 07:40.46 | _Manu_ | ToughShooter, no pressing the keys? :) |
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| 07:54.53 | ToughShooter | but my OS freezes much when the CVS bzflag client (proto 0026) runs (no probs on the other Mac I own however) |
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| 08:00.15 | LePoulpe303 | hi all |
| 08:01.31 | LePoulpe303 | i have an annoying problem with bzflag on my ubuntu box : i have a delay (1/10 s or more) between the moment when i move the mouse pointer and the moment when the tank really moves |
| 08:02.04 | LePoulpe303 | anyone has an idea ? |
| 08:02.19 | LePoulpe303 | i've read all the bz forum without finding any clue |
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| 10:01.42 | bz5305 | hello there |
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| 12:52.42 | Mr_Molez | hey anyone know of ne bugs with 2.0.5b ? |
| 12:52.46 | Mr_Molez | i think i found a few |
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| 12:55.03 | trepan | SF be borked, blah |
| 12:56.42 | Mr_Molez | well anyway.. it seems to crash at random, although not always, and usually after being open ages |
| 12:56.59 | Mr_Molez | and sometimes it starts going really slow, looks like 0.1 fps |
| 12:57.59 | trepan | os, pkg src, vidcard, backtrace... |
| 12:59.51 | trepan | forgot cpu |
| 12:59.53 | Mr_Molez | just wanted to let u know, so if anyone else has the same problems, u know its a bug : |
| 13:00.23 | Mr_Molez | yeh i was thinking the crashes might be my os or cpu,, but i dont think the jitery/slowness |
| 13:00.39 | trepan | it's nice to provide more useful info. |
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| 13:13.05 | Mr_Molez | celeron D , 355 (2.8ghz) 512ram, win xp sp2, radeon 9800 pro (128mb) bzflgag-2.0.5b2 |
| 13:13.08 | Mr_Molez | all i can provide |
| 13:15.11 | ToughShooter | You should be happy that it doesn't freeze the entire OS :/ |
| 13:24.51 | LePoulpe303 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.00 | LePoulpe303 | anyone has an idea ? |
| 13:27.31 | trepan | using a gpm proxy? |
| 13:27.55 | Chestal | the pointer moves? Your tank should be moving as soon as the pointer is outside of the small, inner mousebox |
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| 14:19.51 | Kavar | Hello people |
| 14:22.57 | Kavar | I have made linux dedicated BZFlag server, (2.0.4.20051110-STABLE-linux-gnu) compiled and running with several options, clients can connect, but can't start (doesn't respond for mouse click or "i" key). Can anyone help me? |
| 14:25.15 | Kavar | anyone? :) |
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| 14:28.00 | Kavar | Anyone can help me? |
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| 14:31.10 | gsnedders | you need to give EVERYONE spawn permission |
| 14:31.13 | Pimpinella | Kav: do you allow udp connections? |
| 14:31.17 | Kav | yes |
| 14:31.27 | gsnedders | or was that only being introduced in 2.0.6? |
| 14:31.30 | gsnedders | or 2.2? |
| 14:31.33 | Pimpinella | they should have by default |
| 14:31.50 | gsnedders | i heard in some version it was being taken away |
| 14:31.55 | Pimpinella | really? |
| 14:31.59 | gsnedders | yeah |
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| 14:36.48 | Kav | ok, so can you help me set those things? That is where, what and such stuff? :) |
| 14:37.10 | gsnedders | 1 question: |
| 14:37.14 | gsnedders | can you connect and spawn? |
| 14:37.30 | Kav | I can connect, but cannot start playing |
| 14:37.30 | gsnedders | but only if you put in the /password? |
| 14:37.43 | gsnedders | if you use /password with the server password? |
| 14:37.50 | Kav | there is no password for the server for now |
| 14:38.00 | gsnedders | fair enough |
| 14:38.42 | Kav | It's my first time with BZFlag server, so I'm a little lost ;) |
| 14:40.22 | gsnedders | by the server password, i mean the bzfs password |
| 14:40.31 | gsnedders | set in bzfs.conf |
| 14:42.03 | Kav | hm |
| 14:42.31 | Kav | Where bzfs.conf should be? I can't seem to find it... o.O :) |
| 14:43.02 | gsnedders | ouch... |
| 14:43.13 | gsnedders | that means you're using the default password and all :| |
| 14:43.36 | Kav | hm, it's fresh compilation |
| 14:43.41 | gsnedders | it can be anywhere |
| 14:44.01 | gsnedders | you specify it's location when calling bzfs |
| 14:44.13 | gsnedders | bzfs -conf /my/conf/file |
| 14:44.19 | Kav | ah |
| 14:44.28 | Kav | Well. There is no password |
| 14:44.47 | gsnedders | there is then |
| 14:44.51 | gsnedders | it uses the default |
| 14:45.08 | gsnedders | s33kritw3rd |
| 14:46.20 | Kav | hmm... But when I connect, there is no monit about invalid password (it shows up when I add -passwd <password> in conf file) |
| 14:46.54 | gsnedders | connect the the server |
| 14:46.58 | gsnedders | then type |
| 14:47.07 | gsnedders | /password s33kritw3rd |
| 14:47.15 | gsnedders | and you'll have full admin permissions |
| 14:48.04 | trepan | gsnedders: ? |
| 14:48.31 | trepan | you're not really being helpful, are you? |
| 14:48.41 | gsnedders | i'm trying to... |
| 14:48.46 | gsnedders | and obviously failing... |
| 14:51.58 | Kav | trepan - maybe you have some ideas? |
| 14:54.08 | *** join/#bzflag SportChick (n=SportChi@ca-redbch-cuda1-c3b-a-40.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 14:55.48 | Kav | I login, see the sign "Press Right Mouse or "i" to start" and nothing happens... No respond from both |
| 14:56.15 | Pimpinella | Kav: also no response in text window? |
| 14:57.00 | Pimpinella | Kav: are you firewalled on server or client side? |
| 14:57.37 | Kav | Not the client - server side yes - but port is free |
| 14:58.05 | Pimpinella | dou you run bzfs with -dd and have you checked the debug output for a hint? |
| 14:58.54 | Kav | yeah, everything seems fine |
| 14:59.08 | Pimpinella | firewall, you probably need to open udp input and output side explicitly |
| 15:00.45 | Kav | hm, let's see |
| 15:03.24 | Pimpinella | if yu join the server should produce several lines of output for the player |
| 15:03.47 | Pimpinella | two of them look like this: |
| 15:04.10 | Pimpinella | Player [14] inbound UDP up xx.xxx.xxx.xxx:55278 actual 55278 |
| 15:04.16 | Pimpinella | Player [14] outbound UDP up |
| 15:04.30 | SportChick | menotume: ping |
| 15:05.36 | Pimpinella | Kav: still reading? |
| 15:05.56 | Kav | seems it's running |
| 15:06.12 | Pimpinella | you can spawn now? |
| 15:09.14 | Kav | yeah |
| 15:09.30 | Kav | and lol... on stardart 5154 port... |
| 15:09.55 | Kav | anyway. Thanx for help guys :) |
| 15:11.18 | x0nix_ | hi, I was kicked couple of times for "wrong end shots" ... does anyone know what's that? |
| 15:11.44 | Thumper_ | anti-cheat code that may not be working very well? |
| 15:12.26 | x0nix_ | so i suppose there's nothing i can do with that? |
| 15:12.34 | Thumper_ | if you own the server you can turn off the check |
| 15:12.37 | Thumper_ | otherwise no |
| 15:12.47 | x0nix_ | ok, thx |
| 15:12.54 | Thumper_ | unless of course you are cheating... then you could stop doing that ;) |
| 15:13.02 | x0nix_ | :-)) |
| 15:21.08 | _Manu_ | Thumper_, anti cheat works fine under acceptable net conditions |
| 15:21.41 | Thumper_ | _Manu_: okay... guess I don't have those regularly ;) Tons of players get kicked for end shot detection |
| 15:21.47 | Thumper_ | so I ended up just setting it to 0 |
| 15:22.08 | _Manu_ | what was your endshotdetection value? |
| 15:22.12 | Thumper_ | default 6 |
| 15:22.30 | _Manu_ | then.. your server is really laggy.. or the players inside it.. |
| 15:22.41 | _Manu_ | or full of cheaters |
| 15:22.45 | Thumper_ | probably my server :) |
| 15:22.49 | Thumper_ | and the players |
| 15:23.26 | _Manu_ | but if your players were getting kicked because endShots.. then.. it may be almost unplayable ;) |
| 15:23.44 | Thumper_ | it doesn't happen all the time |
| 15:23.52 | Thumper_ | just random people get flicked off and it was annoying |
| 15:23.54 | _Manu_ | I imagine it, only when lagging |
| 15:24.10 | Thumper_ | in general it plays fine |
| 15:24.48 | Thumper_ | maybe it's only when I saturate my uplink - haven't looked into that in detail |
| 15:24.56 | Thumper_ | that's when lag gets bad |
| 15:24.59 | _Manu_ | it's activer in viper before it was in cvs, and working fine |
| 15:25.00 | Thumper_ | (or worse) |
| 15:25.09 | _Manu_ | s/activer/active |
| 15:25.11 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 15:25.26 | _Manu_ | now it set to the minumum value due some cheaters |
| 15:26.02 | _Manu_ | _endShotDetection 3 |
| 15:26.03 | Thumper_ | it seems to be worse on 'complicated mesh maps' |
| 15:26.07 | Thumper_ | aka LouMan's |
| 15:26.10 | Thumper_ | so it |
| 15:26.26 | Thumper_ | is probably a client gpu/horsepower issue affecting lag too |
| 15:26.50 | _Manu_ | how the anticheat is writing.. must work fine if the play is fine |
| 15:27.20 | Thumper_ | maybe I'll turn it on again and see what happens |
| 15:28.15 | _Manu_ | but I hope this will be removed for bzflag 2.2 |
| 15:28.24 | Thumper_ | ? |
| 15:28.45 | Thumper_ | it's working fine but you want it removed? |
| 15:28.47 | Aribeth | hiya orange |
| 15:28.48 | _Manu_ | actually there is no way to fix it without breaking the protocol |
| 15:29.01 | orange | hi there |
| 15:29.12 | _Manu_ | yes.. anticheat is a hack around an exploit |
| 15:29.23 | Aribeth | there needs to be a shift away from doing some things in the client which would reduce cheating |
| 15:29.39 | _Manu_ | yes, thins are changing |
| 15:29.44 | _Manu_ | making more difficult to cheat |
| 15:30.03 | Aribeth | and may reduce lag as well |
| 15:30.22 | Thumper_ | I heard something about reducing network usage too... how's that going? |
| 15:30.24 | _Manu_ | well lag is net/client speed dependant |
| 15:30.27 | Aribeth | reduce network traffic == reduced lag |
| 15:30.45 | _Manu_ | Aribeth, not really |
| 15:30.50 | Thumper_ | you'll still have lag for slow clients |
| 15:30.58 | Aribeth | in some cases, not all |
| 15:31.02 | Aribeth | yes |
| 15:31.04 | Thumper_ | but you might be able to host more fast clients |
| 15:31.06 | Thumper_ | on the same bandwidth |
| 15:31.19 | Aribeth | im refering to network traffic lag |
| 15:31.30 | ToughShooter | if the network traffic is not at a high percentage of available traffic at one end it won't go down |
| 15:31.42 | Aribeth | right |
| 15:31.58 | ToughShooter | with other words it would never go down for me |
| 15:32.03 | _Manu_ | you can know the minimun lag pinging to the server |
| 15:33.01 | ToughShooter | the lag should be independent of FPS, too |
| 15:33.25 | _Manu_ | I told earlier it was computer speed dependant too |
| 15:34.14 | Aribeth | to some extent yes. if the computer has an old gpu |
| 15:34.30 | Aribeth | or slow network connection |
| 15:35.09 | _Manu_ | you probably mean *slow* gpu, old not means slow always ;) |
| 15:35.19 | Aribeth | true |
| 15:35.37 | ToughShooter | that's not the case with my ibook |
| 15:35.37 | Aribeth | my brain isn't awake yet :P |
| 15:35.58 | ToughShooter | it performs like being at least 5 times slower in average |
| 15:36.06 | Aribeth | and a screaming parrot dosnt help either |
| 15:36.26 | gsnedders | :P |
| 15:36.38 | ToughShooter | Did you eat a part of my computer, too? |
| 15:36.45 | gsnedders | yeah |
| 15:37.02 | ToughShooter | That would explain why it's broken :( |
| 15:37.04 | gsnedders | 6800 chips are quite tasty |
| 15:37.06 | Aribeth | mighty hard to digest those chips |
| 15:37.25 | Aribeth | 6800, not thats old |
| 15:37.25 | gsnedders | even 9200 chips are |
| 15:37.53 | gsnedders | or if it's a recent iBook... 9550 |
| 15:37.56 | ToughShooter | my borked box has a 9600 |
| 15:38.12 | gsnedders | my G5 has a 6800 ultra ddl |
| 15:38.34 | Aribeth | i have an nvidia 6600 gt |
| 15:38.43 | Aribeth | 3.2 ghz P4 |
| 15:38.51 | gsnedders | dual 2.5ghz g5 |
| 15:39.03 | Aribeth | 1 gb corseair xms matched ram |
| 15:39.05 | gsnedders | (not dual dual 2.5ghz g5 though :( ) |
| 15:39.08 | gsnedders | 4.5GB RAM |
| 15:40.32 | ToughShooter | Apples are poor for gamers |
| 15:40.50 | gsnedders | well, I don't play many games :P |
| 15:41.12 | Aribeth | nvidia is the best for video cards |
| 15:41.17 | gsnedders | mainly BZflag and the **** port of America's Army |
| 15:42.42 | ToughShooter | some models are really really bad constructed like the rev.b imac or the well known single g5 powermac |
| 15:42.56 | Aribeth | my computer runs bzflag and nevwewinter nights on linux very well |
| 15:43.04 | ToughShooter | last time I looked at hd temperature on my box it was at 80C |
| 15:43.30 | ToughShooter | though it was "only" at 55C when it worked |
| 15:43.44 | Aribeth | some apple hardware has issues that were known before they were released and apple cant fix them |
| 15:43.58 | Aribeth | and will deny the problems exist |
| 15:44.41 | ToughShooter | now I can only chase peeps in my 12" display |
| 15:45.02 | Aribeth | sounds like a cooling issue |
| 15:45.42 | Aribeth | apple tries to make their computers quiet, but that can cause overheating issues |
| 15:46.03 | Aribeth | i have 7 fans in my computer |
| 15:46.14 | ToughShooter | Aribeth: they tested the macs with certain harddrives and shipped them with all types of hard disks, some got even constantly >61C when everything was okay |
| 15:46.52 | Aribeth | thats hot for a drive |
| 15:47.26 | Aribeth | drives should run cool. i often add fans that draw air across the drive |
| 15:48.06 | ToughShooter | OS of my box freezed when shutting down. due to fan control inside OS it didn't cool the box properly. after I restarted the box several components were damaged.. |
| 15:48.59 | Aribeth | my computer actualy runs very quiet |
| 15:49.23 | Aribeth | i used the super quiet fans. it cost a lot, but works |
| 15:49.24 | ToughShooter | I can't hear my ibook when the drive doesn't read data |
| 15:50.52 | ToughShooter | however I can't enjoy playing now, the OS keeps freezing when 2.0.5 clients are running |
| 15:51.09 | ToughShooter | 2.0.2 somehow works, though |
| 15:51.37 | Thumper_ | Aribeth: so where do you get your nice quiet fans from? |
| 15:51.53 | Thumper_ | Aribeth: I changed my power supplies to large quiet fans... and just unplugged everything else |
| 15:51.57 | Aribeth | i got them from Fry's electronics |
| 15:52.26 | Aribeth | $10.00 each |
| 15:52.36 | jpa- | i just got used to the noise |
| 15:52.46 | Thumper_ | jpa-: eh? what?? ;) |
| 15:52.52 | Aribeth | heh |
| 15:53.11 | *** join/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 15:53.25 | Aribeth | hola RPG_ |
| 15:53.34 | RPG_ | hola Aribeth, que pasa? |
| 15:53.42 | ToughShooter | when it doesn't beep in a high frequenzy I have no probs ;) |
| 15:53.55 | Thumper_ | Aribeth: you wouldn't happen to have a model number or anything for those fans would you? |
| 15:53.55 | jpa- | Thumper_: you put a large quiet fan in the place of your powersupply? :P |
| 15:54.14 | Aribeth | no, its been some time now |
| 15:54.15 | Thumper_ | um yeah |
| 15:54.25 | Aribeth | RPG_, not much |
| 15:54.26 | Thumper_ | a power supply with a large quiet fan... duh |
| 15:54.31 | RPG_ | How would you like a patch taht allows you to take the flag off a cerain person? |
| 15:54.46 | Grumbler | nooooo, my helmet is not as effective as i thought... http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/ |
| 15:54.49 | Thumper_ | morning RPG |
| 15:54.49 | Aribeth | nice |
| 15:54.54 | RPG_ | instead of a /flag up, that de-flags everyone, a /flag up callsign, that only de-flags a certain player |
| 15:55.02 | ToughShooter | cool |
| 15:55.30 | RPG_ | i'll get to making htat |
| 15:55.33 | Aribeth | magic helmet |
| 15:55.35 | ToughShooter | could be nice for a plugin to avoid capping with uneven teams |
| 15:55.41 | RPG_ | that's my reason |
| 15:55.54 | ToughShooter | though it would be better if the flag can't be picked up at all |
| 15:56.08 | RPG_ | yeah, but not all serves would want that |
| 15:57.37 | Thumper_ | RPG: won't it just get abused in a plugin? |
| 15:57.48 | RPG_ | thumper: a patch |
| 15:57.51 | Thumper_ | oh no ... my team flag is about to be capture... -> rejoin |
| 15:57.53 | Thumper_ | flag drops |
| 15:58.06 | RPG_ | huh? |
| 15:58.13 | Thumper_ | if you drop it on unven teams |
| 15:58.16 | Thumper_ | uneven* |
| 15:58.24 | Thumper_ | you just leave for a sec to make it unevent |
| 15:58.27 | Thumper_ | uneven* |
| 15:58.38 | RPG_ | i mean to add a command, /flag up <callsign>, that would let you take the flag off of a certain player |
| 15:58.49 | RPG_ | instead of doing a /flag up, and taking the flags off everyone |
| 15:59.02 | Thumper_ | ah... ToughShooter said somethign about a plugin... sorry for the confusion |
| 15:59.06 | Aribeth | welcome to the bad spellers spellging club |
| 15:59.13 | Thumper_ | thx! |
| 15:59.14 | Aribeth | :P |
| 15:59.26 | Thumper_ | Hi... my name is Thumper_ and I kant spel |
| 15:59.36 | Aribeth | hehwhe |
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| 15:59.55 | ToughShooter | Thumper_: I said what could be done when proto breaks, not what's possible right now |
| 16:00.54 | Thumper_ | ToughShooter: proto is broken now for 2.1 |
| 16:01.09 | RPG_ | broken? let's fix it! |
| 16:01.42 | jomojo | Guys i really think mute should be associated with ips and not call sign and people shouldn't be able to rejoin and get around the mute |
| 16:02.01 | RPG_ | when a player quits, his mute expires anyways |
| 16:02.14 | RPG_ | so mute by IP would basically mute everyone playing from that IP |
| 16:02.15 | Thumper_ | mute first... when they get too annoying ban... end of problem |
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| 16:02.37 | jomojo | i think /mute time should be associated with /shortban time automatically.. Any longer they would deserve a bn |
| 16:02.40 | jomojo | ban |
| 16:02.42 | jomojo | most likely |
| 16:03.10 | jomojo | if the mute is short enough players will realize that rejoining is not a way around the /mute |
| 16:03.28 | jomojo | but without being excessive /mute time |
| 16:03.37 | RPG_ | hmm |
| 16:03.44 | ToughShooter | You could just do /mute /kill /ban |
| 16:03.47 | RPG_ | that would probably require a few more BZDB vars |
| 16:03.47 | jomojo | at the very least muted players shouldn't be allowed to talk to admins either |
| 16:03.53 | Thumper_ | shortban defaults to 5 hrs... that's not short for a mute |
| 16:04.15 | jomojo | i think 5 hours is generous considering in the past they would just be banned |
| 16:04.57 | jomojo | talking to an admin during a /mute is not helpful.. much of the time the admin mutes them to silence them from being so annoying |
| 16:05.24 | Thumper_ | if you're muted... you can't talk to anyone |
| 16:05.26 | orange | I don't know if I agree with that one.. gotta have some way to communicate with them |
| 16:05.34 | orange | then 'k' takes over |
| 16:05.46 | jomojo | you can unmute them if you really want to talk to them |
| 16:05.52 | jomojo | silence orange |
| 16:05.55 | orange | if they continue to be annoying in admin chat after they're muted, they *should* be banned |
| 16:06.03 | jomojo | ~fish slap orange |
| 16:06.04 | ibot | ACTION slaps slap orange around with a large trout |
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| 16:06.46 | jomojo | but muted people have a tendency to wine in admin channel until they get banned |
| 16:06.54 | jomojo | so this is actually doing them a favor |
| 16:07.08 | ToughShooter | some are not smart enough to get it |
| 16:07.15 | RPG_ | how about /kill rf, /kill bf, /kill gf, and /kill pf, would kill the person carrying each team flag? |
| 16:07.16 | jomojo | my whole understanding of mute was it was less severe means than ban |
| 16:07.24 | Thumper_ | yes players rejoin after /mute |
| 16:07.33 | Thumper_ | and normally they stop offending then too |
| 16:07.34 | orange | RPG_: interesting idea |
| 16:07.39 | Thumper_ | otherwise they're outa here (on my servers) |
| 16:07.40 | jomojo | then they get a message as well |
| 16:07.43 | jomojo | no they don't |
| 16:07.44 | RPG_ | i'm an idea bowl today |
| 16:07.46 | orange | Thumper_: my experience... |
| 16:07.51 | orange | they come back after mute and curse at you :-) |
| 16:07.53 | jomojo | i usually have to ban most people i mute |
| 16:08.01 | jomojo | because they come back |
| 16:08.05 | Thumper_ | orange: then I ban... and they're gone. |
| 16:08.06 | jomojo | and do what orange just said |
| 16:08.09 | jomojo | right |
| 16:08.19 | jomojo | but prolonged mute gives them time to cool off |
| 16:08.20 | ToughShooter | jomojo: I have not yet seen any case where no further steps have had to be taken after /mute |
| 16:08.22 | orange | yeah, but jomojo is right, it'd be better to mute longer term |
| 16:08.45 | ToughShooter | RPG_: What will that do if the one if over a pyramid? |
| 16:08.46 | orange | if you're trying to stop someone from being disruptive, it just lets them disrupt longer |
| 16:08.56 | jomojo | also any muted player should have something off to the side that indicates they need to be muted |
| 16:09.03 | Thumper_ | if they want to be disruptive... and they are muted |
| 16:09.06 | Thumper_ | the'll just starting TKing |
| 16:09.13 | Thumper_ | they'll* |
| 16:09.22 | jomojo | some won't resort to teamkilling |
| 16:09.28 | orange | many don't |
| 16:09.33 | jomojo | look basically mute is almost pointless as is |
| 16:09.43 | jomojo | it needs to be more effective to be utilized |
| 16:09.53 | jomojo | i am not the first one to ask for this |
| 16:09.57 | Thumper_ | valid point. I rarely use it |
| 16:09.58 | jomojo | nor will i be the last |
| 16:10.11 | orange | it's just a copy of /ban really |
| 16:10.53 | orange | /mute /mutelist /hostmute /hostmutelist |
| 16:10.53 | ToughShooter | if you warned them and muted, why should they stop after a mute? |
| 16:10.53 | jomojo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.53 | jomojo | they may calm down |
| 16:10.53 | orange | with limits on length |
| 16:10.53 | jomojo | many players get overly excited |
| 16:10.59 | jomojo | and realize they are being silly |
| 16:11.01 | jomojo | later on |
| 16:11.43 | jomojo | i mean orange and I spend more time than many of you combined actually on the most crowded servers in bzflag |
| 16:11.57 | ToughShooter | Why is this not the case with warn, /kick and /ban? |
| 16:12.03 | RPG_ | or /ban callsign MIN reason |
| 16:12.30 | RPG_ | hmm, /kill isn't handled in commands.cxx |
| 16:12.37 | jomojo | ToughShooter: i don't follow. what do you mean not the case? |
| 16:13.11 | ToughShooter | jomojo: Why shouldn't they realized they had a filthy mouth after being banned? |
| 16:13.43 | RPG_ | some want to have the filthy mouth |
| 16:13.48 | jomojo | well bans are a more permanent thing.. mute is designed is a less drastic way of punishement |
| 16:14.35 | ToughShooter | both give indication, after being warned a kick would be more appropriate, IMHO |
| 16:14.35 | jomojo | i often prefer to /mute.. people forget about mutes after a while.. but often when people get banned they do silly things like try to hack the server or something dumb |
| 16:15.01 | orange | the point is for people to play the game after all |
| 16:15.10 | orange | we do the minimum to keep them good citizens |
| 16:15.15 | Grumbler | i would prefer a more drastic mute as well |
| 16:15.27 | jomojo | i can't say i never reacted poorly in life and started saying things i later regretted |
| 16:15.45 | jomojo | i wish mute was a feature we could use in the real world to keep ourselves out of trouble |
| 16:15.54 | Grumbler | the ability of a player to leave and then come back unmuted is frustrating |
| 16:15.58 | orange | jomojo: lol |
| 16:16.01 | jomojo | right |
| 16:16.19 | jomojo | many players are muted when they are already upset |
| 16:16.30 | jomojo | if they can come back and react just like that many will. |
| 16:17.19 | Grumbler | and, althought i originally considered the ability of muted players being able to talk to admins was necessary..........the abuse is usually directed at admins, so there should be a mute option that allows complete mute, no admin talk as well |
| 16:18.09 | orange | on that I still disagree... silence still works |
| 16:18.47 | orange | how else can they tell you they will stop, which some do |
| 16:18.55 | orange | I get "OK, sorry, I'll stop" |
| 16:19.02 | orange | then I get to unmute |
| 16:19.25 | Grumbler | i am saying using it as an option llike /completemute |
| 16:19.29 | orange | does the message that says they are muted tell them how to talk to admins? |
| 16:19.46 | orange | Grumbler: yeah, could work, but if we also add perma- or short- mute options, it might get confusing :-) |
| 16:19.47 | Grumbler | no, but most know |
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| 16:20.12 | ToughShooter | they try out all channels |
| 16:20.26 | ToughShooter | when they get a reply they realize that one isn't blocked |
| 16:20.48 | orange | I'd like to see more info sent to them, too... some people don't even know how to talk to team |
| 16:20.54 | orange | that's a patch I can write :-) |
| 16:21.14 | Grumbler | orange, an admin's job is never done.....and is never easy :) |
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| 16:21.59 | Grumbler | i like the idea of a mute icon, flashing somewhere on the screen |
| 16:22.02 | RPG_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.11 | orange | yes, rpg, it does |
| 16:22.20 | Grumbler | of course, since I am not going to write it, i will sit back a and wait |
| 16:22.24 | orange | if that help is installed... another topic I'd like to discuss :-) |
| 16:22.35 | RPG_ | i really like /sendhelp, as scolding players is not my most liked activity |
| 16:23.05 | Grumbler | i prefer /sendmentalhelp, since some really need it |
| 16:23.10 | orange | and it is consistent |
| 16:23.12 | Thumper_ | lol |
| 16:23.13 | RPG_ | hh |
| 16:26.43 | jomojo | i guess it would fall to me to write /sendmentalhelp |
| 16:27.02 | jomojo | as the only psychotherapists that i know of in Bzflag |
| 16:27.16 | jomojo | who is at least somewhat involved with the server end of it |
| 16:27.41 | Chestal | just plug in good old Eliza |
| 16:28.20 | jomojo | Chestal: Eliza? |
| 16:28.44 | Chestal | http://www.manifestation.com/neurotoys/eliza.php3 |
| 16:31.42 | jomojo | well Eliza is quite stupid.. but i have met worse therapists |
| 16:31.54 | jomojo | I call them freudians |
| 16:31.56 | jomojo | lol |
| 16:34.25 | jomojo | lol |
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| 16:40.34 | Chestal | mal das Schwein aus der Heizung entfernen |
| 16:40.36 | Chestal | oopsa |
| 16:44.06 | Chestal | no idea, but I can hear it whistle |
| 16:44.35 | ToughShooter | :) |
| 17:06.23 | Pimpinella | Thumper_: i was regulary kicked by end shot detection when i was firing GMs while jumping from one island to another on island hopping |
| 17:06.40 | Thumper_ | today? |
| 17:06.54 | Pimpinella | no, always when tried |
| 17:07.10 | Pimpinella | but i was never booted for it on any other condition |
| 17:07.13 | Thumper_ | CTF/rabbit - do you remember? |
| 17:07.14 | Pimpinella | on any server |
| 17:07.23 | Pimpinella | rabbit |
| 17:07.38 | Pimpinella | did you run ctf on island hopping? |
| 17:08.24 | Thumper_ | I set -set _endShotDetection 0 |
| 17:08.27 | Thumper_ | a few days ago |
| 17:08.44 | Pimpinella | ah, yeah, it was most probably before that |
| 17:08.52 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 17:08.52 | Thumper_ | Nov 11 15:17 |
| 17:08.54 | Pimpinella | i didn't play the last few days |
| 17:08.58 | Thumper_ | um yesterday :) |
| 17:09.04 | Thumper_ | feels like a few days ago |
| 17:09.11 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 17:09.17 | Thumper_ | it was set to zero for ages... then I removed it for about a week |
| 17:09.25 | Thumper_ | to see what happens... bad idea |
| 17:09.37 | Thumper_ | s/b all fixed now |
| 17:10.17 | Thumper_ | blame it on my laggy server :-P |
| 17:10.32 | Pimpinella | i never (really never) got booted for end shot except in that case |
| 17:10.41 | Pimpinella | not on your server either |
| 17:10.46 | Thumper_ | hmmm I wonder why that triggers it |
| 17:10.54 | Pimpinella | and it's the code, not your server in that case |
| 17:11.53 | Pimpinella | i'm not sure, probably you run into your own missiles and thats computed wrong somehow |
| 17:12.05 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 17:13.18 | Pimpinella | i should try to jump backwards and fire than |
| 17:13.21 | Pimpinella | then |
| 17:13.30 | Thumper_ | harder to aim that way ;) |
| 17:13.51 | Thumper_ | firing sideways probably works |
| 17:14.15 | Pimpinella | but even harder to control |
| 17:14.22 | Thumper_ | the getting hit with your own GM is a bit wonky |
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| 17:15.08 | Pimpinella | GM is the only weapon that add the tanks speed to it's own |
| 17:15.20 | Thumper_ | you mean that doesn't add... |
| 17:15.22 | Pimpinella | eeeeeh, doesn't add |
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| 17:53.13 | st4lker | hey guys |
| 17:53.22 | st4lker | can someone please help me with my installtion? |
| 17:53.40 | st4lker | i downloaded the Oblisk source |
| 17:53.51 | st4lker | and when i perform ./Install i always get |
| 17:54.00 | st4lker | Logging in as anonymous ... Logged in! |
| 17:54.02 | st4lker | ==> SYST ... done. ==> PWD ... done. |
| 17:54.03 | st4lker | ==> TYPE I ... done. ==> CWD /pub/sourceforge/s/su/suparun ... done. |
| 17:54.04 | st4lker | ==> PASV ... done. ==> RETR i386-curl-7.14.1.tar.gz ... |
| 17:54.06 | st4lker | No such file `i386-curl-7.14.1.tar.gz'. |
| 17:54.07 | st4lker | ./O_libget: line 85: less: command not found |
| 17:54.19 | Thumper_ | st4lker: install less |
| 17:54.23 | st4lker | i am not a root user |
| 17:54.54 | st4lker | install less is the sma |
| 17:54.55 | st4lker | e |
| 17:54.57 | st4lker | same |
| 17:55.07 | blast007 | no, install the package 'less' |
| 17:55.24 | st4lker | is it possible without root rights? |
| 17:55.44 | devster | install it into your homedir, change your $PATH variable to have the path in your home dir first |
| 17:56.17 | st4lker | ok i ll try it |
| 17:56.22 | st4lker | wait a moment *g |
| 17:56.24 | st4lker | <- dummy |
| 17:58.43 | st4lker | hmm how do i install a .deb file without root right? |
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| 18:02.58 | st4lker | i think i done it |
| 18:10.40 | st4lker | hmm i installed it |
| 18:10.48 | st4lker | but now i got the same error |
| 18:10.53 | st4lker | No such file `i386-curl-7.14.1.tar.gz'. |
| 18:15.54 | st4lker | Thumper_ |
| 18:17.45 | Thumper_ | st4lker: no idea - I've never installed it, is #bzflag the right channel for this topic? |
| 18:18.41 | st4lker | whcih chan should i use? |
| 18:18.48 | st4lker | from the homepage i got this chan |
| 18:18.55 | Thumper_ | ok :) |
| 18:19.04 | Thumper_ | is there some other version on that ftp site? |
| 18:19.09 | Thumper_ | the file you want to pull isn't there |
| 18:19.24 | st4lker | i dont know |
| 18:19.31 | st4lker | i just do ./Install |
| 18:20.28 | JeffM2501 | we did not build the obolisk package, so we arn't the best people to comment on how it works |
| 18:20.36 | JeffM2501 | most of us build from raw sources |
| 18:20.54 | JeffM2501 | it is like an installer |
| 18:20.57 | JeffM2501 | for linux |
| 18:21.03 | JeffM2501 | some guy makes em every so often |
| 18:21.16 | JeffM2501 | st4lker, what distro of linux do you use? |
| 18:21.18 | blast007 | "The best place to discuss OBLISK is #oblisk on FreeNode. There is also a forum and bug tracker on the sourceforge page." |
| 18:21.34 | blast007 | right on their home page :) |
| 18:21.35 | st4lker | debian |
| 18:21.47 | JeffM2501 | stable? testing? unstable? |
| 18:22.02 | st4lker | uff |
| 18:22.09 | st4lker | how can i found it out ? ;) |
| 18:22.28 | JeffM2501 | in your apt sources it would say |
| 18:23.00 | st4lker | what command should i use? |
| 18:23.21 | st4lker | other question |
| 18:23.29 | st4lker | can i compile/install your raw sources withour admin right? |
| 18:23.43 | JeffM2501 | you may need packages |
| 18:23.51 | JeffM2501 | and you would need to be su to do that |
| 18:24.27 | JeffM2501 | basicly to install stuff you need su or admin |
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| 18:24.38 | st4lker | puh |
| 18:24.43 | st4lker | now i got a problem ;) |
| 18:24.47 | Thumper_ | st4lker: what is the target machine arch you want? |
| 18:24.58 | JeffM2501 | to compile the system would need to have sdl dev and curl dev packages installed |
| 18:24.59 | st4lker | whats is arch? |
| 18:25.09 | JeffM2501 | what type of CPU it is |
| 18:25.12 | st4lker | amd |
| 18:25.14 | JeffM2501 | perhaps linux isn't the best thing for you |
| 18:25.20 | Thumper_ | architecture... intel/sparc/whatever |
| 18:25.24 | st4lker | ;) i am learing currentlich |
| 18:25.24 | JeffM2501 | 32 bit AMD or 64? |
| 18:25.27 | st4lker | 32 |
| 18:25.34 | JeffM2501 | then it's just i386 |
| 18:25.35 | st4lker | i am currently at leraring |
| 18:25.40 | Thumper_ | what version of bzflag are you looking for? |
| 18:25.43 | st4lker | though i dont have root rights |
| 18:25.56 | st4lker | the newest |
| 18:25.58 | JeffM2501 | well to install from apt you would need permision to do so |
| 18:26.11 | JeffM2501 | to build you could need packages that you may have to need root to install |
| 18:26.31 | JeffM2501 | simplest would be to just try to build |
| 18:26.34 | JeffM2501 | and see what happens |
| 18:26.58 | st4lker | mom ;) |
| 18:27.04 | JeffM2501 | Thumper_, so does APT |
| 18:27.17 | Thumper_ | if you want the latest and greatest... build from the cvs source |
| 18:27.28 | JeffM2501 | 2.0.4 will be good enough for him |
| 18:27.36 | JeffM2501 | no need to confuse him with CVS |
| 18:27.44 | Thumper_ | I built one from 2_0branch a week or so ago |
| 18:27.54 | JeffM2501 | it's not realy going to offer him anything |
| 18:28.03 | JeffM2501 | since he dosn't have root to install it :) |
| 18:28.25 | JeffM2501 | the only thing he can posibly do is build it ( if he has the libs allready ) |
| 18:28.27 | st4lker | dont even know what cvs is, but when it helps... ;) |
| 18:28.29 | Thumper_ | he could install it somewhere else though |
| 18:28.31 | JeffM2501 | and run from his local dir |
| 18:28.48 | JeffM2501 | st4lker, I would aks the administrator of your system for help |
| 18:28.51 | st4lker | could i compile it with suse and then run it on debian? |
| 18:28.59 | JeffM2501 | other then that, get the sourcetarball and build it |
| 18:29.02 | st4lker | because i have a suse system with root rights |
| 18:29.13 | JeffM2501 | the libs may not match |
| 18:29.26 | st4lker | he is currently offline, ym admin |
| 18:29.40 | st4lker | i already did it succesfully with psybnc |
| 18:29.41 | JeffM2501 | then you may need to just wait |
| 18:29.43 | st4lker | oerhaps i shoudl try it |
| 18:30.46 | st4lker | other question |
| 18:30.56 | st4lker | is the bzflag port a tcp or udp protocol port? |
| 18:31.00 | JeffM2501 | both |
| 18:31.03 | JeffM2501 | we use both |
| 18:31.31 | st4lker | ok |
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| 18:54.56 | Inferno285 | I love you ibot! |
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| 18:55.16 | Inferno285 | ~I love you |
| 18:55.18 | ibot | You love you? |
| 18:55.32 | Inferno285 | ~I love ibot |
| 18:55.33 | ibot | You love ibot? |
| 18:55.39 | Inferno285 | ~yeah |
| 18:55.40 | ibot | from memory, yeah is YEAH |
| 18:55.49 | Inferno285 | ~yes |
| 18:55.50 | ibot | You don't say! |
| 18:56.08 | JeffM2501 | Inferno285, please love the bot in ether botpark or /msg ok. |
| 18:56.26 | Inferno285 | ok, gotcha |
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| 20:05.45 | Ice_Wewe | may I ask who coded the energy saving setting into bzflag... (thats a question, not a question leading up to a question) |
| 20:07.51 | *** join/#bzflag ep (n=ep@ip68-228-169-106.ok.ok.cox.net) |
| 20:08.13 | Ice_Wewe | because if I find that person, I'm going to ask them in the politest of terms (because I love the feature) if they are planning on coding in different levels, because I would mind saving CPU time, but not THAT much... sorta like you have a brightness level, with maybe 10 settings, perhaps that could get added? |
| 20:08.48 | trepan | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.13 | Ice_Wewe | where do I add that? |
| 20:09.24 | Ice_Wewe | bzflag config file? |
| 20:09.35 | brlcad | type it into the client as a message |
| 20:09.47 | Ice_Wewe | does this mean I have to do it everytime I start it? |
| 20:09.56 | Ice_Wewe | and can I do this before I'm logged into a server? |
| 20:11.05 | Ice_Wewe | ok, works like a charm, now do I have to type that in everytime I restart the client? |
| 20:11.53 | brlcad | don't remember if a set line in your config file will make it permanent, should work |
| 20:13.19 | Ice_Wewe | ok |
| 20:13.22 | Ice_Wewe | thanks |
| 20:15.21 | Ice_Wewe | works great ;) my thanks to whoever wrote it |
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| 20:19.10 | SilentSwan | (semi is as good as it ever gets) |
| 20:23.18 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: my email is "1+1+1=1" and I get an "email rejected" at viper. What's going on? :o |
| 20:24.08 | trepan | it got picked off by the 'stupid string' filter |
| 20:24.13 | trepan | (most likely) |
| 20:26.42 | trepan | (for those unaware of 'hideEmails') |
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| 20:30.23 | bz9045 | how do i log into the tank game? I have dial up, and wonder if it's keeping me out. |
| 20:30.50 | blast007 | Join Server > Find Servers |
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| 20:34.01 | bz9045 | ok so i Join Server>Find Server>(click any gamer server that shows up, right?) |
| 20:34.20 | bz9045 | Then it shows me an error message. |
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| 20:35.30 | bz9045 | what's wrong? |
| 20:35.44 | bz9045 | or what did i do wrong? |
| 20:36.11 | blast007 | what is the error? |
| 20:36.25 | bz9045 | give me a second |
| 20:36.30 | blast007 | and for on, you won't 'click' on a server |
| 20:36.36 | blast007 | the mouse doesn't control the menu |
| 20:36.44 | blast007 | for one* |
| 20:37.31 | bz9045 | ya, i press enter |
| 20:37.59 | blast007 | k |
| 20:38.10 | bz9045 | i think it might have just worked, but windows xp keeps trying to block something then i give it the ok |
| 20:38.23 | bz9045 | but this time it may have worked |
| 20:39.56 | bz9045 | i think im ok now, thanks lots |
| 20:40.06 | blast007 | k |
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| 21:00.38 | ToughShooter | Any way to make text in message box bigger? |
| 21:00.55 | ToughShooter | I can hardly read it :( |
| 21:01.05 | Thumper__ | ToughShooter: the font size selection in options doesn't work? |
| 21:01.11 | ruskie | hmmm |
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| 21:04.38 | ToughShooter | Thumper__: Doh, I was searching for box |
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| 22:35.44 | Thumper__ | bzfs player join message (Player blah[slot] has joined from <ip> at <date> with token <token> |
| 22:36.07 | Thumper__ | is the token 'good' only if the player specified a matching password to the list server? |
| 22:36.29 | Thumper__ | ie - it will be 'badtoken' or NONE if the wrong password or no password was provided |
| 22:36.53 | Thumper__ | (assuming of course that they aren't just provide random stuff as the token with a modified client) |
| 22:37.43 | Thumper__ | where a 'good' token looks something like: '1152523814' |
| 22:37.46 | JeffM2501 | IIRC, none is when the user isn't registered |
| 22:37.56 | JeffM2501 | badtoken is when the password is wrong |
| 22:38.01 | Thumper__ | yes got that |
| 22:38.03 | JeffM2501 | and if the token is a real number it's good |
| 22:38.14 | Thumper__ | but not verified by the server yet |
| 22:38.19 | Thumper__ | (the bzfs server not the list server) |
| 22:38.25 | JeffM2501 | no, that happens later |
| 22:38.32 | JeffM2501 | the verify happens after join |
| 22:38.37 | Thumper__ | ok thanks -that what I thought |
| 22:39.01 | JeffM2501 | after the join the server will take that token, and send it to the list server for verification |
| 22:39.32 | Thumper__ | which causes the IDENTIFY <callsign> log message if it turns out to be valid |
| 22:40.39 | Thumper__ | thx JeffM2501 |
| 22:45.16 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (14 files): |
| 22:45.16 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: - implement fixed zone flags |
| 22:45.16 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: (also allows the specification of team flag spawns) |
| 22:45.16 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: - disable shot velocity checks due to physics drivers |
| 22:45.16 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: - miscellaneous cleanup |
| 22:49.03 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/WorldInfo.h: remove an old comment |
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| 23:14.21 | jhenn | why i connect to server i get a "error unpacking world database" |
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| 23:37.20 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CustomZone.cxx: avoid some warnings |
| 23:40.17 | Chestal | grmpf |
| 23:40.28 | Chestal | hepcat is real bad when your team has no clue and doen't want to learn |
| 23:41.21 | JeffM2501 | isn't any map bad when that hapens? |
| 23:41.54 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/CustomZone.cxx: more checking, fix the stupid brace |
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| 23:43.53 | Chestal | JeffM2501: well, yes, but's is usually quite full there and it's CTF |
| 23:43.56 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/ (include/PlayerInfo.h src/game/PlayerInfo.cxx): constification |
| 23:44.10 | jhenn | do you guys know what "error unpacking world database" means? |
| 23:44.16 | Chestal | I try to teach them, but they probably do not even read it |
| 23:44.35 | JeffM2501 | jhenn, it means there was an error in your comunication with the server |
| 23:44.51 | JeffM2501 | what version you running? |
| 23:46.10 | jhenn | i don't know how do i tell? |
| 23:46.21 | JeffM2501 | when you start the game it will say in the chat box |
| 23:46.56 | jhenn | 2.0.2 |
| 23:47.00 | trepan | might try removing the .bwc cache files |
| 23:47.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:47.06 | JeffM2501 | what OS? |
| 23:47.13 | jhenn | ubuntu hoary ppc |
| 23:47.33 | JeffM2501 | has it ever worked? |
| 23:47.38 | trepan | ew, tim's build? ;) |
| 23:47.42 | jhenn | no i just installed |
| 23:47.43 | JeffM2501 | probably |
| 23:47.49 | JeffM2501 | I'd use 2.0.4 built yourself |
| 23:48.44 | jhenn | do you have a .deb ppc? |
| 23:49.03 | blast007 | build 2.0.4 from the source tar.gz |
| 23:49.22 | blast007 | 2.0.4 is in debian unstable iirc |
| 23:49.45 | blast007 | but you can also grab the source from sourceforge |
| 23:50.16 | JeffM2501 | yeah you want to build youself, not rely on a deb |
| 23:51.00 | JeffM2501 | 2.0.2 had "issues" on various platforms |
| 23:51.05 | JeffM2501 | re the debianness |
| 23:55.00 | jhenn | thanks |
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