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| 01:59.30 | synthemesc | bwahahaha |
| 01:59.32 | synthemesc | http://www.bash.org/?587801 |
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| 02:01.13 | blast007 | hehehe |
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| 04:29.25 | Objologist | where's the 2 castles server at? |
| 04:30.33 | Objologist | the one i'm getting out of find server doesn't seem to resolve; someone here the other day gave me an alternate that worked |
| 04:30.45 | Objologist | but i didn't write it down :( |
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| 04:33.09 | blast007 | Objologist: menegroth.pimpi.org:5158 |
| 04:33.56 | Objologist | thanks blast007 |
| 04:34.05 | Objologist | i think it was u gave it to me last time :) |
| 04:34.28 | blast007 | I think Pimpi did |
| 04:34.49 | blast007 | yup, it was Pimpi |
| 04:36.14 | Objologist | off to show those guys what a real loser plays like :) |
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| 05:09.38 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (ControlPanel.h ControlPanel.cxx CommandsImplementation.cxx): added /savemsgs client-side command (-s opt. to strip ansi codes) |
| 05:12.32 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ControlPanel.cxx: remove the extra newline |
| 05:14.10 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ControlPanel.cxx: more newline fun |
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| 07:17.51 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/geometry/ (BillboardSceneNode.cxx BoltSceneNode.cxx): blend shots and explosions as light sources |
| 07:18.04 | trepan | it ain't bloom, but it's a bit better |
| 07:45.33 | silverfox | Anyone have an example of a groupdb that uses current CVS permissions (flagmaster, etc) ? |
| 07:58.28 | silverfox | thanks Pimpi. |
| 08:28.30 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/noshow/newboom.jpg |
| 08:30.58 | ruskie | nice boom :) |
| 08:31.19 | trepan | http://trepan.bzflag.bz/noshow/newboom2.jpg (pretty much the same) |
| 08:31.47 | ruskie | also nice |
| 08:36.06 | trepan | might need to move the shot adjustment into enhanced, and use double drawing |
| 08:36.10 | trepan | they |
| 08:36.19 | trepan | 're a bit faded against a birght backeground |
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| 09:18.49 | sussudio | anyone awake? |
| 09:19.44 | sussudio | there's a cheater on gamesunited |
| 09:20.05 | sussudio | using a cvs version. going way too fast in small bursts |
| 09:21.33 | _Manu_ | I'm awake but I'm not gu admin |
| 09:21.49 | brad2901 | sussudio: cass is there |
| 09:21.51 | _Manu_ | you can run a poll |
| 09:22.10 | sussudio | it doesn't matter if you're an admin there. just go see what he's doing |
| 09:22.22 | brad2901 | cass is a cop sussudio |
| 09:22.23 | sussudio | it shouldn't be possible, gamesunited uses speed checks, right? |
| 09:23.35 | _Manu_ | sussudio, bzfs speed check is almost useless |
| 09:23.42 | sussudio | :-| |
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| 09:39.22 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/geometry/ (BillboardSceneNode.cxx BoltSceneNode.cxx): make the modified blending style optional (for now) |
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| 10:58.17 | Pimpi | sf will offer subversion :) |
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| 13:08.19 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: |
| 13:08.19 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: Super Kill transports the id of player to kill. |
| 13:08.20 | CIA-9 | BZFlag: NetHandler is not closed when a player is removed. |
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| 14:36.37 | conanhome | does anyone know in what file in the source are specified server commands ?? |
| 14:37.04 | ToughShooter | commands.cxx |
| 14:45.34 | Tupone | ToughShooter: you saw how I changed your patch? |
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| 14:53.07 | conanhome | ToughShooter: thanks, but what i'm after is the two chars commands list. I'm using bzfquery.py from misc dir and it sends a command packed some way into a C struct, but the code used is 'qg' for "querygame", the thing is script checks for command to not have more than 2 chars, so that list of 2 chars keycodes to commands is what i'm looking for. Any ideas? |
| 14:54.26 | blast007 | that's the packet type |
| 14:54.52 | blast007 | so it's not a server command |
| 14:55.00 | blast007 | look in Protocol.h |
| 15:01.49 | conanhome | blast007: thanks! that's what i'm looking for |
| 15:10.39 | ToughShooter | Tupone: Not yet, I was too lazy |
| 15:10.50 | Tupone | :) |
| 15:13.19 | ToughShooter | Tupone: Ah, yes, that one uses less calls |
| 15:13.42 | Tupone | :) what were you looking for was already there |
| 15:15.16 | ToughShooter | Oh well, reinventing it isn't that bad if you compare commands.cxx to the collision code :) |
| 15:17.41 | Tupone | hehe :) |
| 15:18.23 | ToughShooter | I could scream all the time about the collision stuff |
| 15:18.36 | Tupone | I said just in case you do other changes to the command code... Just letting you know how I like it to be |
| 15:19.08 | ToughShooter | yes, it is more efficient |
| 15:19.45 | ToughShooter | What do you think about the inconsistany in IdListCommand::operator() ? |
| 15:20.16 | ToughShooter | inconsistency |
| 15:21.08 | ToughShooter | Tupone: Do you see it? |
| 15:21.22 | Tupone | Nope where ? |
| 15:23.15 | ToughShooter | Tupone: Compare the case the user has no perms for idlist and for flaghistory |
| 15:24.06 | ToughShooter | Tupone: it is the string sent to the players |
| 15:24.47 | Tupone | /idlist against flaghistory ? |
| 15:25.27 | ToughShooter | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.13 | Tupone | ok, Is against the other style. Though I like more /commands ... :) |
| 15:26.36 | Tupone | but I guess is wrong |
| 15:27.07 | Tupone | as that comamnd could be even run not from command line I guess |
| 15:28.00 | ToughShooter | Personally I would like "You do not have permission to run /idlist" but it's not my game |
| 15:30.57 | ToughShooter | also in ShowPermsCommand::operator() the error for users that have no perm is different |
| 15:31.21 | ToughShooter | in showperms it may make sense to always allow players to view their own perms, too |
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| 15:41.37 | sniperyyd | hiya |
| 15:41.42 | sniperyyd | hmm how do i test my server if worx? |
| 15:42.23 | ruskie | try ~bzfquery server:port |
| 15:42.32 | ruskie | or what's the command... |
| 15:42.37 | sniperyyd | k thx ruskie |
| 15:42.48 | sniperyyd | ~bzfquery cristi.brite.ro:5154 |
| 15:42.55 | sniperyyd | :) |
| 15:43.42 | sniperyyd | ToughShooter: remember me? |
| 15:44.09 | sniperyyd | ~help |
| 15:44.10 | Grumbler | exit |
| 15:44.16 | Grumbler | doh |
| 15:44.26 | sniperyyd | what Grumbler ? |
| 15:44.33 | Grumbler | ~ww |
| 15:44.35 | ibot | No, you are just wrong. |
| 15:44.58 | Chestal | Grumbler: no escape! |
| 15:45.28 | Grumbler | heh, trapped in a terminal forever |
| 15:45.34 | sniperyyd | hehe :) |
| 15:45.46 | menotume | alias exit='exit; xterm' |
| 15:46.11 | menotume | try that Grumbler |
| 15:47.12 | menotume | hmmmm ... |
| 15:47.20 | menotume | alias exit='xterm &; exit' |
| 15:47.40 | Grumbler | hmmm..... |
| 15:47.48 | Grumbler | alias exit='' |
| 15:47.52 | sniperyyd | mmmmmmmmmmmmmm :P delicious :P |
| 15:47.54 | menotume | hehe |
| 15:48.53 | sniperyyd | k'mon. :P |
| 15:49.00 | sniperyyd | someone test my server :P |
| 15:49.42 | Grumbler | cant help today, sry |
| 15:50.03 | sniperyyd | :P |
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| 15:52.00 | sniperyyd | how do i can forbidden all "bad" flags |
| 15:52.17 | sniperyyd | ? |
| 15:58.12 | menotume | sniperyyd: http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzfs.6s |
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| 15:58.18 | sniperyyd | menotume: ok |
| 15:58.41 | Grumbler | hmm blender 2.40 releases.....wonder if it has native support for bz maps yet :) |
| 15:59.34 | menotume | ~manbz |
| 15:59.35 | ibot | hmm... manbz is http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi |
| 15:59.42 | menotume | cool |
| 16:00.00 | menotume | or should it be rtfbzm ? |
| 16:00.07 | blast007 | lol |
| 16:01.35 | sniperyyd | ~bzfquery cristi.brite.ro:5154 |
| 16:01.46 | sniperyyd | :) |
| 16:03.13 | blast007 | ~man bzfs |
| 16:03.14 | ibot | i guess man bzfs is http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzfs.6s |
| 16:03.29 | blast007 | menotume: how about that? :) |
| 16:04.49 | sniperyyd | ~man bzadmin |
| 16:04.51 | ibot | [man bzadmin] http://my.bzflag.org/bzfman.cgi?bzadmin.6s |
| 16:04.51 | sniperyyd | :P |
| 16:05.08 | blast007 | added them for bzflag and bzw too ;) |
| 16:05.23 | sniperyyd | hehe |
| 16:05.34 | sniperyyd | ~man ls |
| 16:05.36 | sniperyyd | :)) |
| 16:06.34 | sniperyyd | lol |
| 16:06.43 | sniperyyd | ~bzfquery cristi.brite.ro:5154 |
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| 16:20.01 | menotume | blast007: cool, i was gonna do that, but 'man' was already something else |
| 16:20.37 | menotume | oh, i c |
| 16:20.39 | blast007 | yeah, it let me add extra words to the end |
| 16:20.47 | menotume | i was gonna use $1 |
| 16:20.56 | menotume | but, yours is better |
| 16:21.21 | menotume | ~no, rtfbzm is |
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| 17:35.19 | sniperyyd | hi all |
| 17:35.20 | sniperyyd | ;) |
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| 18:09.09 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 18:12.28 | JeffM2501 | isnt' it time to do another release? |
| 18:12.34 | JeffM2501 | didn't we do one last year at this time? |
| 18:17.28 | sniperyyd | donno:P |
| 18:20.19 | JeffM2501 | ether that or it's time for me to quit again.. I always forget |
| 18:20.19 | sniperyyd | JeffM2501: i have problems with global login:P it says Global login rejected bad toke |
| 18:20.23 | sniperyyd | token* |
| 18:20.50 | sniperyyd | can you help me? |
| 18:22.19 | JeffM2501 | you have a proxy server? |
| 18:24.23 | sniperyyd | i have a server... |
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| 18:24.32 | sniperyyd | and its my home network gateway |
| 18:27.53 | JeffM2501 | but are you behind a proxy server for web sites? |
| 18:28.01 | JeffM2501 | like ether on your gateway or ISP? |
| 18:28.05 | JeffM2501 | well it dosnt' mater |
| 18:28.11 | JeffM2501 | solution is the same |
| 18:28.15 | JeffM2501 | open your config file |
| 18:28.27 | JeffM2501 | find the line that says #set list http://my.BZFlag.org/db/ |
| 18:28.36 | JeffM2501 | and make it say set list http://my.BZFlag.org:81/db/ |
| 18:29.12 | sniperyyd | where is that line? |
| 18:29.18 | sniperyyd | where is the conf file?? |
| 18:29.19 | JeffM2501 | in your config file |
| 18:29.24 | JeffM2501 | what OS are you on |
| 18:29.28 | sniperyyd | Win |
| 18:29.43 | JeffM2501 | in your my documents folder |
| 18:29.46 | sniperyyd | k |
| 18:29.50 | JeffM2501 | in a folder called my bzflag files |
| 18:29.53 | JeffM2501 | then 2.0 |
| 18:30.00 | JeffM2501 | then config.cfg |
| 18:30.02 | sniperyyd | k |
| 18:30.03 | sniperyyd | ty |
| 18:30.08 | sniperyyd | found it ^^ |
| 18:30.39 | orange | still getting lots of geno non-deaths on a server running of bzflag.bz |
| 18:30.50 | orange | nobody else is seeing this? |
| 18:32.13 | sniperyyd | i dunt have #set list http://my.BZFlag.org/db/ |
| 18:33.36 | sniperyyd | ahh found it srry |
| 18:37.02 | brad2901 | orange: sure they aren't just spawning straight after the geno has hit? |
| 18:38.06 | JeffM2501 | make sure you take out the # |
| 18:39.06 | sniperyyd | JeffM2501: i taked out the # and changed to :81 |
| 18:39.09 | sniperyyd | and now worx ;) |
| 18:39.13 | sniperyyd | "global login aproved" |
| 18:39.14 | sniperyyd | :) |
| 18:39.30 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 18:39.39 | JeffM2501 | you have a caching proxy somewhere in your line |
| 18:41.17 | sniperyyd | hehe;) |
| 18:49.02 | sniperyyd | JeffM2501: are there clans in BZFlag? |
| 18:49.12 | JeffM2501 | there are teams in the leauges |
| 18:49.38 | sniperyyd | what teams? |
| 18:49.41 | sniperyyd | like DUB? |
| 18:49.44 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:49.46 | JeffM2501 | thre are many teams |
| 18:50.02 | sniperyyd | where can i find all teams? |
| 18:50.21 | JeffM2501 | depends on the leauge |
| 18:50.27 | JeffM2501 | there is more the one leauge |
| 18:50.28 | sniperyyd | for example |
| 18:50.30 | sniperyyd | DUB |
| 18:50.39 | JeffM2501 | they are a ctf leauge |
| 18:50.50 | sniperyyd | ctf ffa and rabbit leagues? |
| 18:50.58 | JeffM2501 | there are more then that |
| 18:51.05 | sniperyyd | JeffM2501: ok |
| 18:51.09 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/league/ |
| 18:51.11 | sniperyyd | k |
| 18:51.12 | JeffM2501 | thats one of them |
| 18:51.14 | sniperyyd | ty |
| 18:51.15 | JeffM2501 | there is gu leauge |
| 18:51.17 | JeffM2501 | ducati |
| 18:51.23 | JeffM2501 | many are listed on the forums |
| 18:51.26 | JeffM2501 | most have there own sites |
| 18:51.32 | JeffM2501 | we don't maintain them as part of the project tho |
| 18:51.40 | sniperyyd | k |
| 18:54.46 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: What happened to your BZFlag map editor? Discountinued? |
| 18:55.42 | JeffM2501 | the code is in CVS |
| 18:56.04 | orange | brad2901: definitely... I've witnessed this with my own eyes... it's not any of the normal 'seems like he did not die with geno' situations |
| 18:56.22 | orange | it's people who keep the flag they were holding through geno's |
| 18:57.00 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: Yes, but do you still work on it or is likely that you will work in future on it? |
| 18:57.28 | JeffM2501 | it got realy realy realy realy realy booring |
| 18:59.10 | ToughShooter | Aww :( |
| 18:59.54 | JeffM2501 | mesh based worlds are probalby where it's all going anway |
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| 19:17.38 | ToughShooter | ~bzfquery silvercat.bzflag.bz:3171 |
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| 19:21.37 | cvr | hi |
| 19:21.55 | cvr | can someone help me on 2.0 version maps |
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| 19:22.34 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ |
| 19:23.07 | cvr | I have bzflag installed, and in these maps there are certain walls/blocks that appear black, without any texture |
| 19:27.33 | Chestal | cvr: some maps use additional textures. These are downloaded automatically when you jon the server. However, by default the client only allows downloads from some configured servers. Look for messages when joining the server, probably have to scroll back |
| 19:29.03 | cvr | ok |
| 19:29.06 | cvr | thanks |
| 19:32.55 | cvr | is it something saying LIBCURL: |
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| 20:30.30 | _Manu_ | JeffM2501, ping |
| 20:39.16 | Tupone | I don't have they key there :/ |
| 20:39.38 | _Manu_ | I know |
| 20:39.41 | _Manu_ | :/ |
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| 20:56.09 | JeffM2501 | _Manu_, ? |
| 20:56.36 | _Manu_ | JeffM2501, it was because viper is not getting public no more |
| 20:56.44 | _Manu_ | wanted to check it from the listserver side |
| 20:57.15 | JeffM2501 | I have to leave I can't do much for you |
| 20:57.19 | JeffM2501 | have to drive to AZ |
| 20:57.45 | _Manu_ | no problem.. fixed it was a DNS problem |
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| 21:31.13 | Objologist | heyo |
| 21:31.30 | Objologist | does anyone use binoculr mode? |
| 21:33.27 | blast007 | I do sometimes when I have laser, and want to pick off targets at long range ;) |
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| 21:35.15 | Objologist | do you go slower with it? or does it just feel that way? |
| 21:36.39 | blast007 | I don't really move much with it, but I don't think it should make you any slower |
| 21:36.51 | blast007 | I mainly just turn to aim |
| 21:36.56 | blast007 | then turn it off |
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| 21:51.22 | Thumper_ | my linux bzflag servers with plugin support shared a common directory for plugins |
| 21:51.34 | Thumper_ | when I want to upgrade a plugin that is in use on multiple servers |
| 21:51.53 | Thumper_ | copying thew plugin.so file over the old one tends to crash any servers that are still using it (oops) |
| 21:52.04 | Thumper_ | is there a safe way to do with without bringing down the server? |
| 21:52.11 | Thumper_ | is renaming the old plugin file going to work or do I have ot |
| 21:52.22 | Thumper_ | unload it on all servers first, then copy the new code and then relaod it ? |
| 21:53.05 | Thumper_ | ~/plugins/playerlist.so for instance is used on multiple servers |
| 21:53.06 | ibot | Thumper_: that's too long |
| 21:53.12 | Thumper_ | sorry ibot |
| 21:53.13 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 21:55.01 | Thumper_ | trepan: ping (see above) |
| 21:55.18 | trepan | don't really care much about plugins, sry ;) |
| 21:55.41 | trepan | but unload/loading seems to be reasonable |
| 21:55.41 | Thumper_ | well it's more of a .so shared library generic question really |
| 21:55.49 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 21:55.55 | Thumper_ | that's what I think I have ot do |
| 21:56.04 | Thumper_ | or keep separate plugin dirs for each server |
| 21:56.05 | trepan | ya, i find it odd, thought it would have loaded a full copy |
| 21:56.22 | Thumper_ | I've crashed my servers 3 times doing this now :-P |
| 21:56.32 | Thumper_ | so I'm obviously doing it wrong |
| 21:56.45 | Thumper_ | 1 .so shared between 28 running servers |
| 21:56.51 | Thumper_ | not unloading first is bad |
| 21:57.09 | Thumper_ | ok next time... I'll unload them first :D |
| 21:58.05 | Thumper_ | I had 20 players before I did that :-O |
| 21:58.49 | trepan | could gdb it and find out why... |
| 21:59.46 | trepan | you're on the dev list now... chop-chop ;) |
| 22:00.46 | Thumper_ | hehe |
| 22:00.58 | Thumper_ | I could... too bad I stripped all my debug symbols out of those images |
| 22:01.46 | trepan | unless you've got limited hd space, you might as well leave 'em in |
| 22:02.36 | trepan | heck, even profiled execs run fairly fast with recent gcc's |
| 22:02.41 | Thumper_ | the bzflag server partition is too small for 34 copies of the bzflag server code with debug symbols right now |
| 22:02.56 | Thumper_ | I'll go fix that :) |
| 22:03.09 | Thumper_ | thx trepan |
| 22:03.51 | trepan | 34 copies of the bzfs code? what are you doing? |
| 22:03.59 | Thumper_ | 34 servers... |
| 22:04.02 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 22:04.05 | trepan | so? |
| 22:04.25 | trepan | i don't keep 20 copies of the xterm exec lying around... |
| 22:04.57 | Thumper_ | fuser bin/bzfs to figure out if this particular server is running |
| 22:05.02 | Thumper_ | dont think that works if it's a link |
| 22:05.06 | Thumper_ | to a single exe |
| 22:05.08 | Thumper_ | but I could be wrong |
| 22:05.25 | trepan | ouch, that's a horrible way to do it :) |
| 22:06.10 | Thumper_ | I'll always entertain better ideas :) |
| 22:06.23 | trepan | use diff config file names, or diff dir names, and just grep a 'ps' |
| 22:06.46 | trepan | could also use pid runfiles, but i find that that can get messy |
| 22:06.49 | Thumper_ | each server has a bash script for a server loop |
| 22:06.55 | Thumper_ | yeah wanted to avoid pid files |
| 22:07.03 | trepan | but 34 execs is just silly ;) |
| 22:07.06 | Thumper_ | servers/port#/bin/bzfs |
| 22:07.06 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 22:07.21 | Thumper_ | i was lazy |
| 22:09.55 | Thumper_ | a bit. |
| 22:10.14 | Thumper_ | players pick the server to use. and when the bandwidth gets busy |
| 22:10.17 | Thumper_ | the idle ones go away |
| 22:10.28 | Thumper_ | unrolled rotation server basically |
| 22:10.48 | ToughShooter | still, having 34 servers with individual binaries is probably better for upgrading in that case |
| 22:10.52 | Thumper_ | I find rotation servers always have the wrong game up, and it's timelimit is too short |
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| 22:11.34 | Thumper_ | this way the players pick for a long list of servers... and the one they want to play on stays running while the others go away |
| 22:12.17 | ToughShooter | Well, I think you may split 20players over 34 servers then and when no one else is on the port they choose they quickly leave |
| 22:12.39 | Thumper_ | that's not how it's been working for the last 8 months |
| 22:14.14 | ToughShooter | I've not seen norang in the #10 list much, though I have to add it is a bt insane how popularity works |
| 22:14.16 | Thumper_ | if that happens... the server htey leave from goes down |
| 22:14.25 | Thumper_ | :) |
| 22:14.30 | Thumper_ | we're on page 1 almost every day |
| 22:14.36 | Thumper_ | some map is |
| 22:14.42 | Thumper_ | not necessarily the same one |
| 22:15.50 | Thumper_ | I still think player choice for game selection is important |
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| 23:43.19 | trepan | if you've got a linux amd64 x2 sys, go with linux 2.6.14+ :) |
| 23:43.35 | trepan | 2.6.12 has timing probs (very noticeable with bz) |
| 23:57.05 | menotume | orange: ping |
