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| 00:03.31 | TimRiker | /* I saw my baby / cryin' hard as babe could cry / what could I do? */ |
| 00:05.58 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/client/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:05.58 | CIA-3 | opencombat: move menu items out of the base menu class to there own. |
| 00:05.58 | CIA-3 | opencombat: store them as pointers. |
| 00:05.58 | CIA-3 | opencombat: let them be derived and do there own drawing. |
| 00:07.25 | JeffM2501 | so long, so long. and thanks for all the fish. |
| 00:08.03 | TimRiker | ~fishslap JeffM2501 |
| 00:08.09 | ibot | ACTION slaps JeffM2501 up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 00:08.11 | Tupone | Does songs follow as JeffM2501 says ? :) |
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| 00:08.28 | JeffM2501 | yes, tupone, it involves fish :) |
| 00:08.59 | JeffM2501 | and a CIA update |
| 00:09.02 | JeffM2501 | it's all in there |
| 00:09.04 | JeffM2501 | subtle |
| 00:09.09 | JeffM2501 | done by the backup singers |
| 00:09.15 | Tupone | lol |
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| 01:15.48 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/client/src/ (mainMenu.cpp menus.cpp): start hooking up mouse support in the menus |
| 01:17.30 | purple_cow | pff. menus aren't made to be used with the mouse |
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| 01:21.54 | JeffM2501 | you know me |
| 01:22.02 | JeffM2501 | I'm allways on the edge of the tech |
| 01:22.07 | JeffM2501 | thinking outside the box |
| 01:22.08 | JeffM2501 | and all that |
| 01:22.15 | JeffM2501 | they make a cool "bing" sound tho :) |
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| 03:20.46 | Tegan | Are the flag names in scoreboards are always abbreviated, and if not, when are they spelled out? |
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| 03:28.44 | learner | Tegan, while you're carrying them, and on the help menus |
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| 03:41.28 | Tegan | learner, are they ever spelled out in the scoreboard itself? |
| 03:46.55 | Tegan | anyway, thx for the reply, I'll assume 2-char max for now. |
| 03:47.49 | learner | not that i'm aware of |
| 03:48.24 | learner | they're spelled out underneath the target box when you carry, but not on scoreboard afaik |
| 03:48.34 | Tegan | k |
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| 03:52.43 | Tegan | guess I'm not reading it right, then. |
| 03:56.59 | silverfox | is there a utility that would allow me to script/automate logging into a webpage and submitting a form? |
| 04:12.35 | Tegan | aw, pastebin doesn't take screenshot |
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| 04:14.22 | learner | there is no std::isnan() in iso c++ |
| 04:14.39 | spldart | Anything new on 2.1 unstable from sat to tonight? |
| 04:15.21 | Tegan | this is probably too trivial anyway |
| 04:16.15 | learner | you're not really supposed to use c99 stuff in c++, it's all compiler-specific extensions at best and with -pedantic or -ansi, it should fail outright |
| 04:17.46 | Tegan | it's a lousy idea but i was hoping to get a second opinion. :( |
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| 04:18.13 | learner | aww, she never even said what it was |
| 04:22.06 | silverfox | s/Mrs/Ms/ |
| 04:23.03 | orange | wonder why that didn't work |
| 04:24.52 | silverfox | missing quotes? |
| 04:25.12 | orange | this is Mrs |
| 04:25.15 | orange | s/Mrs/Ms/ |
| 04:25.19 | orange | this is Mrs. |
| 04:25.22 | orange | s/Mrs/Ms/ |
| 04:25.25 | orange | hmm |
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| 04:25.37 | orange | oh, I bet it had to do with it being an action not a statement |
| 04:33.24 | trepan | learner: std::isnan() break something somewhere? |
| 04:35.04 | learner | heh, yep |
| 04:35.24 | learner | broken on all versions on mac and irix |
| 04:35.36 | learner | i think I have a fix that cheats around it hopefully |
| 04:35.45 | trepan | heh, took this long to find out... |
| 04:35.58 | spldart | ~ibot help |
| 04:36.01 | learner | i haven't compiled head in ages |
| 04:36.03 | trepan | (f != f) works, if the compiler doesn't optimize it |
| 04:36.07 | learner | at least more than individual files |
| 04:36.13 | trepan | volatile may help there |
| 04:36.23 | learner | there is an isnan() |
| 04:36.52 | learner | it's just not in the std namespace; that makes it a c++ extension |
| 04:37.35 | learner | i.e. libm provides an isnan, there is no templatized isnan in std though |
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| 04:38.43 | learner | which is kind of cheating in itself if we were going for compliance -- headers "could" leave out isnan even if we use -pedantic -ansi on the c++ compiler |
| 04:38.52 | trepan | learner: it's in the 2.0.5 branch too |
| 04:38.54 | learner | g++ just ignores it i suppose |
| 04:39.24 | learner | hmm, maybe not done a clean build there in a while i guess |
| 04:40.39 | learner | or 10.4 os x, where i've done most which has gcc 4 might have put it as an extension in std:: |
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| 04:56.52 | learner | still compiling, so maybe my fix worked |
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| 08:13.23 | LePoulpe303 | hi all ! |
| 08:13.31 | lan56 | bonjour |
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| 10:11.43 | purple_cow | bump mapping? |
| 10:11.48 | trepan | parallax |
| 10:12.17 | trepan | bump with a height map tweak |
| 10:15.58 | trepan | have to get the texcoord 'u' axis into an eye space vector and fed into a vertex attrib for meshes though... a pain |
| 10:16.41 | trepan | ... or object space, the latter being more flexible |
| 10:17.34 | trepan | kludging this piece of crap is mildly amusing |
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| 00:03.31 | TimRiker | /* I saw my baby / cryin' hard as babe could cry / what could I do? */ |
| 00:05.58 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/client/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:05.58 | CIA-3 | opencombat: move menu items out of the base menu class to there own. |
| 00:05.58 | CIA-3 | opencombat: store them as pointers. |
| 00:05.58 | CIA-3 | opencombat: let them be derived and do there own drawing. |
| 00:07.25 | JeffM2501 | so long, so long. and thanks for all the fish. |
| 00:08.03 | TimRiker | ~fishslap JeffM2501 |
| 00:08.09 | ibot | ACTION slaps JeffM2501 up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 00:08.11 | Tupone | Does songs follow as JeffM2501 says ? :) |
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| 00:08.28 | JeffM2501 | yes, tupone, it involves fish :) |
| 00:08.59 | JeffM2501 | and a CIA update |
| 00:09.02 | JeffM2501 | it's all in there |
| 00:09.04 | JeffM2501 | subtle |
| 00:09.09 | JeffM2501 | done by the backup singers |
| 00:09.15 | Tupone | lol |
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| 01:15.48 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/client/src/ (mainMenu.cpp menus.cpp): start hooking up mouse support in the menus |
| 01:17.30 | purple_cow | pff. menus aren't made to be used with the mouse |
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| 01:21.54 | JeffM2501 | you know me |
| 01:22.02 | JeffM2501 | I'm allways on the edge of the tech |
| 01:22.07 | JeffM2501 | thinking outside the box |
| 01:22.08 | JeffM2501 | and all that |
| 01:22.15 | JeffM2501 | they make a cool "bing" sound tho :) |
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| 03:20.46 | Tegan | Are the flag names in scoreboards are always abbreviated, and if not, when are they spelled out? |
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| 03:28.44 | learner | Tegan, while you're carrying them, and on the help menus |
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| 03:41.28 | Tegan | learner, are they ever spelled out in the scoreboard itself? |
| 03:46.55 | Tegan | anyway, thx for the reply, I'll assume 2-char max for now. |
| 03:47.49 | learner | not that i'm aware of |
| 03:48.24 | learner | they're spelled out underneath the target box when you carry, but not on scoreboard afaik |
| 03:48.34 | Tegan | k |
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| 03:52.43 | Tegan | guess I'm not reading it right, then. |
| 03:56.59 | silverfox | is there a utility that would allow me to script/automate logging into a webpage and submitting a form? |
| 04:12.35 | Tegan | aw, pastebin doesn't take screenshot |
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| 04:14.22 | learner | there is no std::isnan() in iso c++ |
| 04:14.39 | spldart | Anything new on 2.1 unstable from sat to tonight? |
| 04:15.21 | Tegan | this is probably too trivial anyway |
| 04:16.15 | learner | you're not really supposed to use c99 stuff in c++, it's all compiler-specific extensions at best and with -pedantic or -ansi, it should fail outright |
| 04:17.46 | Tegan | it's a lousy idea but i was hoping to get a second opinion. :( |
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| 04:18.13 | learner | aww, she never even said what it was |
| 04:22.06 | silverfox | s/Mrs/Ms/ |
| 04:23.03 | orange | wonder why that didn't work |
| 04:24.52 | silverfox | missing quotes? |
| 04:25.12 | orange | this is Mrs |
| 04:25.15 | orange | s/Mrs/Ms/ |
| 04:25.19 | orange | this is Mrs. |
| 04:25.22 | orange | s/Mrs/Ms/ |
| 04:25.25 | orange | hmm |
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| 04:25.37 | orange | oh, I bet it had to do with it being an action not a statement |
| 04:33.24 | trepan | learner: std::isnan() break something somewhere? |
| 04:35.04 | learner | heh, yep |
| 04:35.24 | learner | broken on all versions on mac and irix |
| 04:35.36 | learner | i think I have a fix that cheats around it hopefully |
| 04:35.45 | trepan | heh, took this long to find out... |
| 04:35.58 | spldart | ~ibot help |
| 04:36.01 | learner | i haven't compiled head in ages |
| 04:36.03 | trepan | (f != f) works, if the compiler doesn't optimize it |
| 04:36.07 | learner | at least more than individual files |
| 04:36.13 | trepan | volatile may help there |
| 04:36.23 | learner | there is an isnan() |
| 04:36.52 | learner | it's just not in the std namespace; that makes it a c++ extension |
| 04:37.35 | learner | i.e. libm provides an isnan, there is no templatized isnan in std though |
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| 04:38.43 | learner | which is kind of cheating in itself if we were going for compliance -- headers "could" leave out isnan even if we use -pedantic -ansi on the c++ compiler |
| 04:38.52 | trepan | learner: it's in the 2.0.5 branch too |
| 04:38.54 | learner | g++ just ignores it i suppose |
| 04:39.24 | learner | hmm, maybe not done a clean build there in a while i guess |
| 04:40.39 | learner | or 10.4 os x, where i've done most which has gcc 4 might have put it as an extension in std:: |
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| 04:56.52 | learner | still compiling, so maybe my fix worked |
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| 08:13.23 | LePoulpe303 | hi all ! |
| 08:13.31 | lan56 | bonjour |
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| 10:11.12 | trepan | not a great example, but it's working: http://trepan.bzflag.bz/noshow/parallax.jpg |
| 10:11.43 | purple_cow | bump mapping? |
| 10:11.48 | trepan | parallax |
| 10:12.17 | trepan | bump with a height map tweak |
| 10:15.58 | trepan | have to get the texcoord 'u' axis into an eye space vector and fed into a vertex attrib for meshes though... a pain |
| 10:16.41 | trepan | ... or object space, the latter being more flexible |
| 10:17.34 | trepan | kludging this piece of crap is mildly amusing |
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| 10:45.53 | LePoulpe30341 | i'm looking for a full of willingness artist (pref. with linux and/or windows) that could design me a few icons for my software ; anyone interested ? |
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| 12:17.57 | LePoulpe30341 | i'm looking for a full of willingness artist (pref. with linux and/or windows) that could design me a few icons for my software ; anyone interested ? |
| 12:21.15 | Pimpinella | LePoulpe30341: it's probably the wrong vhannel to ask for this... |
| 12:23.32 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10admin/master-bans.txt: alas molez wasn't nearly as interested in cooperating or stopping and intends to continue. ban for extensive public network abuse, spamming, disruptive behavior; irc spamming as well. |
| 12:24.16 | Grumbler | molez?...hmm, wasnt he one of the good ones for a time |
| 12:25.09 | brlcad | that he was |
| 12:26.23 | Pimpinella | just like db... |
| 12:26.37 | brlcad | i was frankly surprised myself, he's been a fine player in the past when I played |
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| 12:26.55 | brlcad | others who played with him more tell a different tale though |
| 12:27.26 | brlcad | regardless, talking with him was night and day compared to db |
| 12:27.57 | Grumbler | another one bites the dust |
| 12:28.18 | brlcad | molez wasn't the least bit remorseful for his disruptions and the time impacts he's been making, and even said he intends to continue so .. *sigh* |
| 12:28.33 | Pimpinella | he's always been a lil short tempered, but things might have turned worse after he had encountered a private desater |
| 12:29.12 | brlcad | yep, once his reputation was slightly tarnished, he eventually "snapped" or "turned" or whatever you want to call it |
| 12:29.34 | Grumbler | maybe in a year or two |
| 12:29.47 | brlcad | and now he's dug his own grave from which he doesn't feel he's got any means to get out (though he was offered a ladder and a hand) |
| 12:30.23 | Grumbler | on a more interesting topic, the non-photorealistic bzflag pics in the forums are awesome, |
| 12:30.40 | brlcad | oh, where? |
| 12:30.47 | Grumbler | bzbb |
| 12:30.51 | brlcad | heh |
| 12:31.01 | Grumbler | or my.bzflag or whatever they are called now :) |
| 12:31.04 | brlcad | not very helpful :) |
| 12:31.31 | Pimpinella | maybe you can provide us wth an url... |
| 12:31.44 | brlcad | found it :P http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6386 |
| 12:32.06 | Grumbler | you are faster than me |
| 12:36.00 | Pimpinella | brlcad: however molez' ip is dynamic |
| 12:36.06 | brlcad | yep, it is |
| 12:36.07 | Pimpinella | using a wide range |
| 12:36.19 | brlcad | and he _just_ discovered he's been banned |
| 12:36.26 | brlcad | he's on an aol link |
| 12:36.39 | brlcad | well, he's known for days that it was going to happen |
| 12:37.30 | brlcad | for now, i'll just ban them as they come |
| 12:37.32 | Pimpinella | just for info, do servers reload basterbans frequently? |
| 12:37.48 | LePoulpe30341 | Pimpinella : my proggy concerns bzflag that's why i ask there |
| 12:37.59 | brlcad | Pimpinella: within 10 minutes iirc |
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| 12:44.13 | Pimpinella | bans may need some more attention |
| 12:44.26 | Pimpinella | /reload deletes masterbans |
| 12:45.07 | Pimpinella | /masterban list shown no bans, even if /banlist lists them |
| 12:51.55 | brlcad | so far he's getting rejected |
| 12:52.17 | brlcad | so just have to let me know as he uses proxies |
| 12:52.42 | brlcad | (or as he uess new IPs) |
| 12:58.51 | *** join/#bzflag Mr_Molez (n=d48a40ad@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
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| 12:59.02 | Mr_Molez | u guys have seen http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com right ? |
| 12:59.19 | Mr_Molez | u guys have seen http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com right ? |
| 12:59.26 | Mr_Molez | whoa laggy |
| 12:59.59 | Mr_Molez | duno why, but for some reason http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com rulez |
| 13:00.22 | Mr_Molez | you all know ? |
| 13:01.02 | Mr_Molez | woot woot http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com |
| 13:01.38 | Mr_Molez | lol Birdie u suck cock ... visit http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com |
| 13:01.48 | *** kick/#bzflag [Mr_Molez!i=thilo@pdpc/supporter/active/Chestal] by Chestal (woot yourself) |
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| 13:02.16 | Mr_Molez | aww thats not nice |
| 13:02.30 | Mr_Molez | u didnt even visit http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com |
| 13:02.51 | Mr_Molez | but yup.. Birdie sucks cock alright |
| 13:02.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*=d48a40ad@*.bzflag.bz] by Chestal |
| 13:02.53 | *** kick/#bzflag [Mr_Molez!i=thilo@pdpc/supporter/active/Chestal] by Chestal (bah) |
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| 13:08.39 | l33t__n3ss | WTF PART OF BIRDIE SUCKS COCK DONT U UNDERSTAND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM |
| 13:08.41 | l33t__n3ss | WTF PART OF BIRDIE SUCKS COCK DONT U UNDERSTAND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM |
| 13:08.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*=d48a40b2@*.concept69.de] by Chestal |
| 13:08.44 | *** kick/#bzflag [l33t__n3ss!i=thilo@pdpc/supporter/active/Chestal] by Chestal (go) |
| 13:08.50 | *** mode/#bzflag [+m] by Chestal |
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| 13:11.36 | *** kick/#bzflag [BIRDIESUCKSCOCK!i=thilo@pdpc/supporter/active/Chestal] by Chestal (Chestal) |
| 13:11.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [+r] by Chestal |
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| 13:12.56 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*=d48a40ac@*.bzflag.bz] by Chestal |
| 13:12.56 | *** kick/#bzflag [BIRDIESUCKSCOCK!i=thilo@pdpc/supporter/active/Chestal] by Chestal (play outside) |
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| 13:27.36 | *** kick/#bzflag [BIRDIESUCKSCOCK!i=thilo@pdpc/supporter/active/Chestal] by Chestal (banzai) |
| 13:27.44 | Chestal | hmm |
| 13:28.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!*=d48a40b2@*.concept69.de] by Chestal |
| 13:28.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!*=d48a40ad@*.bzflag.bz] by Chestal |
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| 13:31.35 | *** kick/#bzflag [BIRDIESLUT!i=thilo@pdpc/supporter/active/Chestal] by Chestal (Chestal) |
| 13:31.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [+i] by Chestal |
| 13:31.56 | Chestal | such persistence... |
| 13:32.20 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Birdie] by Chestal |
| 13:32.32 | Birdie | ty |
| 13:32.47 | Chestal | hmm, actually |
| 13:32.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [-rm] by Chestal |
| 13:33.00 | *** mode/#bzflag [-v Birdie] by Chestal |
| 13:33.57 | Grumbler | well, you could look at this as a way to test those OP skills....to put a positive spin on this |
| 13:34.14 | Birdie | my op skills should be better i noticed:s |
| 13:34.16 | Chestal | some delay on nick registration would be handy |
| 13:34.32 | Chestal | or make a distinction between freshly registered and "old" nicks |
| 13:34.57 | Chestal | as is, +r might be useful against bots, but pretty useless against human pests |
| 13:35.22 | Birdie | they just register their nicks and keep on spamming |
| 13:36.03 | Grumbler | isnt this type of behavior where freenode OPs are suppose to come in and kick butt |
| 13:36.24 | Grumbler | or is this too minor |
| 13:36.30 | Birdie | they dont want cause its an attack to few channels and bzflag in particular |
| 13:36.30 | Chestal | I thought about contacting one, but I do not really see what they could do about it |
| 13:36.36 | Birdie | and they say the ops should take care of it |
| 13:37.04 | Chestal | he's just changing IPs/proxies |
| 13:37.22 | Grumbler | i noted the message from freenode when i joined this morning....figured it was coming from this |
| 13:38.04 | Chestal | which message? |
| 13:38.19 | Grumbler | [freenode-info] channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: |
| 13:38.22 | Grumbler | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.24 | Grumbler | [freenode-info] channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: |
| 13:38.28 | Grumbler | [freenode-info] channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: |
| 13:38.31 | Grumbler | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.39 | Grumbler | 65.94.160.181 - - [09/Jan/2006:05:02:20 -0500] "GET /Japan_webalbum/Kyoto/page.htm HTTP/1.0" 200 936 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE |
| 13:38.43 | Grumbler | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.06 | Grumbler | 08:20 -!- [freenode-info] channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: |
| 13:39.10 | Grumbler | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.30 | Grumbler | gah, sry |
| 13:39.51 | Grumbler | :( |
| 13:40.18 | Grumbler | i dont usually page up and paste with irssi much |
| 13:41.06 | Chestal | I had my couple of paste accidents in IRC, too. Nowadays I usually test-paste first in another window :-) |
| 13:41.07 | trepan | checks with freenode support |
| 13:42.01 | Grumbler | heh, i dont have another window..... |
| 13:42.38 | trepan | what kinda winept system you using? |
| 13:43.33 | Grumbler | heh |
| 13:45.19 | BenUrban | heh, in xchat you rarely have paste accidents |
| 13:45.33 | BenUrban | since you have to hit enter before anything gets sent |
| 13:45.51 | BenUrban | (no matter how many lines there are) |
| 13:48.09 | eXtreme | can you invite brad2901 please? :p |
| 13:49.36 | *** join/#bzflag brad2901 (i=brad@unaffiliated/brad2901) |
| 13:49.40 | brad2901 | thanks Chestal |
| 14:08.17 | brad2901 | could someone invite hhhhhhh12 please? he needs some help |
| 14:08.48 | Chestal | great nick that is |
| 14:09.03 | brad2901 | yeah - seems like a nice guy though :) |
| 14:09.15 | *** join/#bzflag hhhhhhh12 (n=Bard@535426B0.cable.casema.nl) |
| 14:09.20 | hhhhhhh12 | hi all |
| 14:09.34 | hhhhhhh12 | i have a little problem with my bzflag installation |
| 14:09.51 | hhhhhhh12 | on linux, FC4 |
| 14:10.06 | hhhhhhh12 | sound doest work at all, getting strange noises |
| 14:10.47 | hhhhhhh12 | can anyone help me with this problem? |
| 14:12.13 | Chestal | you can try and set the sound driver and device settings in bzflag, depending on what you are using system wide (alsa, oss, maybe a sound daemon). I don't know what to set there exactly, though. |
| 14:13.04 | hhhhhhh12 | i tried, put salsa in on both options |
| 14:13.10 | hhhhhhh12 | but has no effect |
| 14:13.36 | hhhhhhh12 | i only get strange noises |
| 14:13.40 | Chestal | you running artsd or something? |
| 14:13.55 | hhhhhhh12 | only 1 sound i recognize, thats the plop when starting tank |
| 14:14.06 | hhhhhhh12 | i am a bit new to linux |
| 14:14.09 | hhhhhhh12 | -bit |
| 14:14.18 | hhhhhhh12 | i think only salsa |
| 14:14.29 | hhhhhhh12 | but kde messed some things up |
| 14:14.37 | Chestal | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/20050128.html.gz has someone with similarproblem maybe |
| 14:14.42 | hhhhhhh12 | k |
| 14:14.52 | hhhhhhh12 | will see at that site for more info |
| 14:14.53 | hhhhhhh12 | thanx |
| 14:16.12 | Chestal | it probably came up on http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ before, too |
| 14:17.25 | brlcad | wow, that's a pretty annoying nick :) |
| 14:17.37 | hhhhhhh12 | oeps |
| 14:17.56 | hhhhhhh12 | i just restarted bzflag and everything works fine |
| 14:18.07 | hhhhhhh12 | do i need to restart to make changes take effect? |
| 14:18.15 | hhhhhhh12 | hmmm |
| 14:18.20 | hhhhhhh12 | thanx anyway |
| 14:18.30 | Chestal | hmm, not sure :-) |
| 14:18.34 | hhhhhhh12 | i do now |
| 14:18.45 | hhhhhhh12 | now it works |
| 14:18.51 | hhhhhhh12 | see you all on the battlefields |
| 14:19.01 | Chestal | brlcad: saw the spamming? |
| 14:19.07 | Chestal | hhhhhhh12: have fun |
| 14:19.09 | hhhhhhh12 | bye A/all |
| 14:19.19 | hhhhhhh12 | its Bard, but thats already registred |
| 14:19.21 | hhhhhhh12 | ;) |
| 14:19.25 | *** part/#bzflag hhhhhhh12 (n=Bard@535426B0.cable.casema.nl) |
| 14:20.13 | brlcad | Chestal: nah, I meant the guy that just left with all the 'h's .. only half-joking |
| 14:20.45 | Chestal | brlcad: yes, I know. My question was unrelated |
| 14:21.18 | Grumbler | brlcad: mr molez was back spamming, did you see it? |
| 14:23.01 | brlcad | Chestal: ah, yes, just read it now |
| 14:23.25 | brlcad | not surprised -- he's been getting rejections on the list server |
| 14:23.48 | Chestal | I made the channel invite only for now |
| 14:24.09 | brlcad | i think he did somehow make it into viper2 though with a long callsign -- is there a viper admin that can check? |
| 14:24.25 | Birdie | what do you want to know? |
| 14:24.30 | Birdie | more: how can i find out |
| 14:24.59 | brlcad | does viper2 pull up the global banlist? |
| 14:25.11 | brlcad | he seems to have connected with a callsign of "lIFuP2vCdUxSngPQpC98t2VCxuRW10d" |
| 14:25.18 | Birdie | what a callsign:s |
| 14:25.34 | Birdie | molez changes ip bigtime though,pimpinella was planning today to search a way to keep him out |
| 14:25.43 | brlcad | this is still his same ip |
| 14:25.46 | Birdie | oh |
| 14:25.47 | Birdie | hmm |
| 14:26.17 | Birdie | you need manu or pimpi to check that though |
| 14:27.32 | Birdie | i saw him yesterday on #dub to, and banned him |
| 14:27.44 | Birdie | dub the server i mean |
| 14:28.40 | brlcad | he was only globally banned as of this morning (about 10 minutes before he showed up here) as I was waiting for him to play |
| 14:43.51 | Birdie | pls invite ToughShooter |
| 14:43.53 | _Manu_ | Birdie, the ip brlcad banned is the last he used at DUB |
| 14:44.09 | Birdie | _Manu_ : thx |
| 14:44.23 | _Manu_ | Mr_Zelom :) |
| 14:44.27 | Birdie | yep |
| 14:44.32 | Birdie | i banned him when i saw him |
| 14:44.34 | _Manu_ | reverse molez |
| 14:44.38 | Birdie | propably thats the reason why he is so nice to me today |
| 14:44.44 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 14:45.04 | _Manu_ | yes, he give you some flowers a while ago |
| 14:45.22 | _Manu_ | s/give/gaves |
| 14:45.35 | Birdie | i wished those were flowers but.. |
| 14:55.04 | brlcad | _Manu_: do you see when he last connected? |
| 14:55.18 | _Manu_ | yes |
| 14:55.22 | _Manu_ | wait... |
| 14:55.53 | _Manu_ | yesterday 22:00h |
| 14:55.58 | _Manu_ | when birdie banned him |
| 14:56.09 | _Manu_ | 22:00h GMT |
| 14:57.03 | brlcad | viper2, using callsign shown above? |
| 14:57.24 | _Manu_ | no, he was at DUB |
| 14:57.35 | _Manu_ | let me check in viper |
| 14:57.52 | Birdie | on DUB he was "Mr Zelom" (identified, dunno if global) |
| 14:58.18 | _Manu_ | Mr_Zelom was global |
| 14:58.19 | brlcad | viper2 is the one that i'm wondering about |
| 14:58.27 | _Manu_ | yes.. wait :) |
| 14:58.35 | brlcad | birdie's ban was well before the global |
| 14:59.02 | _Manu_ | brlcad, not seen at viper the last two days |
| 14:59.16 | brlcad | _Manu_: search logs for "lIFuP2vCdUxSngPQpC98t2VCxuRW10d" |
| 14:59.27 | _Manu_ | yes, I see it now :/ |
| 14:59.29 | brlcad | earlier today |
| 14:59.44 | _Manu_ | today 12:40:20 |
| 15:00.01 | _Manu_ | 3 hours ago |
| 15:00.16 | brlcad | did he actually connect? |
| 15:00.46 | _Manu_ | I guess no, |
| 15:00.46 | brlcad | maybe viper simply hadn't loaded the global banlist yet |
| 15:00.48 | _Manu_ | disconnected |
| 15:00.55 | brlcad | hrm |
| 15:01.18 | _Manu_ | but he joined and the rejoint time shows it |
| 15:01.21 | _Manu_ | rejoin |
| 15:01.32 | brlcad | yeah, about 4 or 5 times |
| 15:01.45 | brlcad | doesn't show any game activity though? |
| 15:02.04 | _Manu_ | some times got desconnected: ECONNRESET/EPIPE |
| 15:02.56 | _Manu_ | brlcad, no |
| 15:03.25 | brlcad | ah, then maybe just trying to crash the server |
| 15:04.45 | _Manu_ | brlcad, Jan 12 14:49:01 menegroth viper: Player lIFuP2vCdUxSngPQpC98t2VCxuRW10d [17] has joined from 172.216.38.191 at 2006-01-12 13:49:01 with token "5sv0dmLuFazU3GDe3MzwV" |
| 15:05.04 | _Manu_ | and then: Jan 12 14:49:02 menegroth viper: Player lIFuP2vCdUxSngPQpC98t2VCxuRW10d [17] removed at 2006-01-12 13:49:02: ECONNRESET/EPIPE |
| 15:05.39 | _Manu_ | every time he tried got disconnected because ECONNRESET/EPIPE |
| 15:06.27 | _Manu_ | brlcad, to crash the server? :) he is bad |
| 15:07.57 | *** join/#bzflag SportChick (n=SportChi@ca-redbch-cuda1-c3b-a-40.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 15:07.57 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v SportChick] by ChanServ |
| 15:08.04 | SportChick | ty brlcad |
| 15:08.08 | SportChick | brlcad: what happened? |
| 15:08.24 | _Manu_ | troublemakers |
| 15:08.35 | _Manu_ | really troublemaker |
| 15:08.39 | Pimpinella | brlcad, _Manu_ : yes, i've seen that weird callsign while playing |
| 15:08.48 | Pimpinella | connected as observer |
| 15:08.51 | _Manu_ | he is Mr_Molez |
| 15:09.15 | Pimpinella | yeah, thougt so |
| 15:09.34 | Pimpinella | it poped up and signed of almost instantly |
| 15:09.34 | brlcad | so maybe the ban was working, I was just surprised to see the ADD message |
| 15:09.43 | _Manu_ | yes, disconnected |
| 15:09.50 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 15:09.56 | Birdie | brlcad: can you invite toughShooter to? |
| 15:10.11 | Pimpinella | brlcad: the masterban didn't load while i tried |
| 15:10.22 | Pimpinella | lemme try again |
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| 15:11.34 | _Manu_ | global is not at viper :( |
| 15:11.42 | _Manu_ | mean masterbans |
| 15:12.08 | _Manu_ | now it is |
| 15:12.12 | Pimpinella | when i tried masterban list it said non leaded |
| 15:12.20 | Pimpinella | but i loaded before |
| 15:12.37 | Pimpinella | i reloaded it, but the molez ban isn't included |
| 15:12.42 | Pimpinella | as earlier |
| 15:13.21 | Pimpinella | still /masterban list shows an empty list while the masterbans are listed in /banlist |
| 15:14.00 | _Manu_ | Pimpinella, you must use /masterbanlist |
| 15:14.18 | _Manu_ | /masterban list shows it at viper |
| 15:14.44 | Pimpinella | so what is "/masterban list" for? |
| 15:15.14 | Pimpinella | it's given in the commands help message and it returns an empty list |
| 15:15.18 | _Manu_ | for listing masteban list :) |
| 15:15.28 | _Manu_ | I executed it at viper and works |
| 15:15.54 | Pimpinella | returns bans? |
| 15:15.55 | Pimpinella | not when i tried |
| 15:15.55 | _Manu_ | yes, the ban list |
| 15:16.01 | _Manu_ | because I did /masterban load at first :) |
| 15:16.25 | *** mode/#bzflag [-i] by brlcad |
| 15:17.01 | Pimpinella | i did /masterban reload before |
| 15:17.16 | Pimpinella | and neither DB ban nor Molez' is listerd |
| 15:17.31 | brlcad | have the right url? |
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| 15:18.43 | Pimpinella | while at least DB's ban is listed with /banlist |
| 15:19.04 | Pimpinella | i don't think i changed default |
| 15:19.09 | _Manu_ | master ban list is loaded, but it isn't Mr_molez's ip :/ |
| 15:20.25 | brlcad | TheRedBaron: sorry, have to use non-web irc client right now |
| 15:20.40 | Pimpinella | http://bzflag.org/master-bans.txt |
| 15:20.54 | TheRedBaron | brlcad: no problem, i understand |
| 15:21.39 | Pimpinella | is that the correct url? |
| 15:22.04 | _Manu_ | yes, but the last ban is not showed at servers ban list |
| 15:22.10 | brlcad | TheRedBaron: actually never mind .. we'll just see how it goes i suppose |
| 15:22.18 | _Manu_ | the last showed is DB's ban |
| 15:22.20 | brlcad | Pimpinella: yes |
| 15:22.28 | brlcad | oops, theres a typo in there |
| 15:22.39 | _Manu_ | brlcad, the last ban at list is not loaded |
| 15:22.50 | Pimpinella | oh, it is |
| 15:23.18 | Pimpinella | but it seems the whole banning stuff is borked somehow |
| 15:23.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10admin/master-bans.txt: missing a colon |
| 15:24.50 | Grumbler | this list needs a colonoscopy |
| 15:24.55 | _Manu_ | brlcad, now it is :) |
| 15:25.24 | TheRedBaron | grumbler... ewww |
| 15:28.16 | Pimpinella | _Manu_: reloaded? |
| 15:29.53 | brlcad | who runs bzflag0.gamesunited.de ? |
| 15:29.59 | brad2901 | gsl |
| 15:30.03 | brlcad | it's being attacked with the crash bug atm |
| 15:30.26 | brad2901 | A PM on the gu.de forums might be the quickest way of contact |
| 15:30.35 | brlcad | would you? |
| 15:30.41 | Pimpinella | is the crash bug fixed? |
| 15:30.42 | brad2901 | sure |
| 15:30.52 | brad2901 | what do you want me to say? |
| 15:30.54 | Pimpinella | guess so if viper survived |
| 15:31.20 | Birdie | GU is known of answering with lots of delay.. |
| 15:31.59 | Grumbler | not everybody lives and dies on the internet |
| 15:32.24 | Pimpinella | sooner or later we'll get them too... |
| 15:35.34 | TheRedBaron | grumbler: ahh, his bark is worse than his bite |
| 15:35.40 | TheRedBaron | a nice guy like this? http://pics.bzleague.com/displayimage.php?album=8&pos=0 |
| 15:36.31 | Grumbler | beware little people in strollers |
| 15:36.35 | brlcad | hehe |
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| 16:00.41 | Birdie | brlcad: 172.216.38.191 is the ip molez has for the moment |
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| 16:08.04 | orchid | ← |
| 16:08.50 | brlcad | exactly. |
| 16:15.51 | Grumbler | scary, orchid was reading my mind |
| 16:21.09 | _Manu_ | Pimpinella, yes viper has the fix :) |
| 16:22.45 | Grumbler | is viper even involved in the viper site anymore? |
| 16:22.54 | Pimpinella | no |
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| 16:23.33 | Pimpinella | hasn't been for quite a while and was never really much |
| 16:23.50 | Grumbler | didnt he design the basic map? |
| 16:23.51 | Pimpinella | though me made the original map of coure |
| 16:23.56 | Pimpinella | course |
| 16:23.58 | Grumbler | ah |
| 16:25.10 | _Manu_ | I didn't see viper since one year go |
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| 16:25.49 | Grumbler | heh, a curious situation |
| 16:26.19 | _Manu_ | yes we know it ;) |
| 16:27.01 | Pimpinella | it's a well known name, no need to change it ;) |
| 16:27.36 | Grumbler | yeah, a Manu server might cause a rebellion :) |
| 16:27.50 | _Manu_ | lol |
| 16:28.37 | _Manu_ | really viper started with other maps |
| 16:28.43 | _Manu_ | ducatiwannabe most of them |
| 16:29.00 | Pimpinella | and dutchrai |
| 16:29.08 | _Manu_ | yes, the first one was dutchrai |
| 16:29.20 | Grumbler | i thought the viper map was original |
| 16:29.32 | Pimpinella | it came soon |
| 16:29.59 | _Manu_ | iirc the server started in May and in June was running the two castles |
| 16:30.05 | Pimpinella | but the very first map running on the server was from dutchrai |
| 16:31.49 | _Manu_ | and you Grumbler, never play bzflag? |
| 16:32.12 | Grumbler | heh, not much as of late |
| 16:32.39 | TheRedBaron | dutchrai's maps are genius :) |
| 16:33.06 | _Manu_ | yes, I like his style |
| 16:33.49 | Grumbler | i still have admin rights on a couple servers...i check in there from time to time |
| 16:33.56 | TheRedBaron | http://shellshock.bzflag.bz Although its a little outdated, it has a complete list of all his maps |
| 16:34.07 | _Manu_ | Grumbler, to test if you lost it? :) |
| 16:34.26 | Grumbler | heh, no, just to make sure there is active admining going on |
| 16:34.40 | Grumbler | although my banning skills are slipping :) |
| 16:34.57 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 16:35.36 | Grumbler | i am still waiting for that one killer map enviroment to bring me back full bore |
| 16:35.58 | TheRedBaron | oh? |
| 16:36.24 | Grumbler | i am also checking out CoD2 and how some common issues are handled |
| 16:36.56 | Grumbler | bzflag definitely has better filters |
| 16:37.36 | Pimpinella | filters? |
| 16:37.43 | Grumbler | chat filters |
| 16:37.59 | Grumbler | CoD2 just passes it all through right now |
| 16:38.23 | Grumbler | also callsign filters |
| 16:39.08 | Grumbler | one thing i do like is the chat message expire, so if someone does snap into a profanity rage, its gone in 15 seconds |
| 16:39.35 | Grumbler | on the downside, there is no scrolling back |
| 16:39.51 | Grumbler | at least, not that i know of now |
| 16:40.08 | Grumbler | many commands are buried and not commonly documented |
| 16:40.31 | Pimpinella | on CoD2 or bz? |
| 16:40.37 | Grumbler | CoD2 |
| 16:41.48 | Grumbler | lag issues are about the same, only the magnitudes are different....ie 50-70ms playable, >100 not so much |
| 16:42.32 | Grumbler | fps is critcal, people with killer systems dont have to have the skill score well |
| 16:42.54 | Grumbler | s/skill score/skill to score/ |
| 16:43.54 | Grumbler | several weapons are overpowered, shotgun, thompson, most russian automatics for example |
| 16:44.29 | Grumbler | but in general, beyond the richer graphic enviroments, the issues are identical to bzflag |
| 16:45.57 | Grumbler | i do like the voice comms, but that is handled external to CoD2 itself, so really, bzflag could have the same feature |
| 16:47.17 | Grumbler | CTF has some nice tweaks, you cant capture your opponents flag if your team flag is not at the base.... |
| 16:47.59 | TheRedBaron | grumbler, I do not like that tweak... |
| 16:48.05 | Grumbler | heh |
| 16:48.13 | TheRedBaron | nor do I like the tweak, that if you run over you flag, it goes back to your base... |
| 16:48.13 | Grumbler | i do |
| 16:48.18 | Pimpinella | it's at least interesting |
| 16:48.23 | TheRedBaron | it should be a fight to take it back or forward |
| 16:48.44 | TheRedBaron | If you've played Halo its the same |
| 16:48.48 | Pimpinella | like trepans all hands on deck it's an intereting variation |
| 16:48.55 | TheRedBaron | can't cap without your flag at your base, and if you run over your flag, poof, its back at your base |
| 16:48.55 | Grumbler | it would be nice to have more options with the gameplay |
| 16:49.23 | Grumbler | in CoD2 that is |
| 16:49.56 | Grumbler | TheRedBaron: i havent played Halo, i just picked up CoD2 for a change |
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| 16:50.25 | TheRedBaron | Grumbler: i'm pretty sure bzflag's ctf is "one of a kind" or at best, rare |
| 16:50.58 | TheRedBaron | most FPS ctf games are like CoD2/Halo |
| 16:52.09 | Pimpinella | the best feature in bz is, that it's variable. every map has it's own characteristics and even then the way you have to play it largely depends on the server settings. |
| 16:52.22 | Pimpinella | everything is very variable |
| 16:52.55 | Grumbler | except the look of the tanks :) |
| 16:54.48 | _Manu_ | yes, it's a lack |
| 16:55.11 | _Manu_ | all the tanks are equals |
| 16:55.23 | Grumbler | from a comparison, i think the bzdevs should be pretty happy/proud, because the CoD2 is really not so great that I would denegrate bzflag in any way. |
| 16:56.29 | _Manu_ | bzflag is simple, funny and addictive |
| 16:56.36 | _Manu_ | and free |
| 16:57.22 | Grumbler | i wouldnt mind seeing that cartoon-like version tweaked to become a standard enviroment. |
| 16:57.32 | Grumbler | free is a good thing |
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| 16:57.44 | _Manu_ | yes, also for the cheaters :( |
| 16:57.59 | _Manu_ | because it's open source |
| 16:58.15 | Grumbler | cheaters exist in the paid versions as well....and they are more sophisticated |
| 16:58.28 | _Manu_ | more? |
| 16:59.12 | _Manu_ | well at last they must dissasemble the bynary to study it |
| 16:59.14 | Grumbler | yeah, they have more control of turning on/off the cheat, more random nature in the auto aimers..etc.... |
| 16:59.30 | _Manu_ | s/the bynary /the binary/ |
| 16:59.35 | Grumbler | its usually a pretty basic cheat in bz |
| 17:00.00 | _Manu_ | yes, except the endShot cheat all were well known |
| 17:00.18 | _Manu_ | and nothing imaginatives |
| 17:00.40 | Grumbler | nothing that we know of :) |
| 17:01.16 | _Manu_ | and most of them have no idea about how to cheat, simply they copied the code |
| 17:01.27 | Grumbler | yep |
| 17:03.11 | gsnedders | would this be valid: world name example_world end |
| 17:03.22 | orchid | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6386 is there supposed to be some picture here? |
| 17:04.07 | Grumbler | you have to download the PNG images |
| 17:04.31 | _Manu_ | orchid, there are |
| 17:04.40 | orchid | hm |
| 17:04.52 | SportChick | brlcad: ping |
| 17:05.11 | orchid | I don't see a link for png's |
| 17:05.30 | Grumbler | its in the first post |
| 17:05.46 | Grumbler | posted by Sax |
| 17:06.00 | _Manu_ | orchid, try this one: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/download.php?id=3217&sid=efa900a395ae4bb7312ed976b8e4fb34 |
| 17:06.28 | orchid | duh |
| 17:06.34 | orchid | I wasnt logged in :) sry |
| 17:06.41 | Grumbler | heh |
| 17:06.45 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 17:16.12 | gsnedders | would work in bzfs: world name example_world end ? |
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| 17:45.42 | JeffM2501 | well we arn't +m tha'ts good :) |
| 17:46.54 | sniperyyd | what does that option? |
| 17:47.06 | JeffM2501 | moderated |
| 17:47.08 | JeffM2501 | voice to talk |
| 17:47.23 | sniperyyd | ah |
| 17:47.24 | sniperyyd | k |
| 17:51.44 | brlcad | we were briefly invite-only |
| 17:51.53 | brlcad | but that didn't need to persist |
| 17:53.09 | JeffM2501 | so he atempted to make good on his threat? |
| 17:53.13 | JeffM2501 | how are the servers? |
| 17:53.42 | brlcad | they're fine |
| 17:53.49 | brlcad | he's been blocked most of the day |
| 17:53.58 | JeffM2501 | good |
| 17:54.16 | JeffM2501 | wonder what his "demands" are? |
| 17:54.39 | orchid | he has demands? |
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| 17:54.58 | JeffM2501 | aperantly |
| 17:56.05 | menotume | we don't negotiate with terrorists |
| 17:56.14 | blast007 | heh |
| 17:56.28 | blast007 | just reading that post... |
| 17:59.00 | menotume | i posted |
| 17:59.57 | JeffM2501 | how can you negotiate if you don't know what he wants |
| 18:00.03 | JeffM2501 | maybe he wants a cookie |
| 18:00.04 | menotume | :) |
| 18:00.08 | JeffM2501 | hell I'll send him a cookie |
| 18:00.13 | JeffM2501 | just gimme an address |
| 18:00.13 | menotume | i wouldn't give it to him :) |
| 18:00.14 | blast007 | or a swift kick in the butt |
| 18:07.24 | JeffM2501 | actualy it dosn't really matter, the actions he has been doing have been dwindling of late. to me it looks like all his friends have left him, and he's just full of hot air |
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| 00:03.31 | TimRiker | /* I saw my baby / cryin' hard as babe could cry / what could I do? */ |
| 00:05.58 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/client/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 00:05.58 | CIA-3 | opencombat: move menu items out of the base menu class to there own. |
| 00:05.58 | CIA-3 | opencombat: store them as pointers. |
| 00:05.58 | CIA-3 | opencombat: let them be derived and do there own drawing. |
| 00:07.25 | JeffM2501 | so long, so long. and thanks for all the fish. |
| 00:08.03 | TimRiker | ~fishslap JeffM2501 |
| 00:08.09 | ibot | ACTION slaps JeffM2501 up side the head with a wet fish. |
| 00:08.11 | Tupone | Does songs follow as JeffM2501 says ? :) |
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| 00:08.28 | JeffM2501 | yes, tupone, it involves fish :) |
| 00:08.59 | JeffM2501 | and a CIA update |
| 00:09.02 | JeffM2501 | it's all in there |
| 00:09.04 | JeffM2501 | subtle |
| 00:09.09 | JeffM2501 | done by the backup singers |
| 00:09.15 | Tupone | lol |
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| 01:15.48 | CIA-3 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/client/src/ (mainMenu.cpp menus.cpp): start hooking up mouse support in the menus |
| 01:17.30 | purple_cow | pff. menus aren't made to be used with the mouse |
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| 01:21.54 | JeffM2501 | you know me |
| 01:22.02 | JeffM2501 | I'm allways on the edge of the tech |
| 01:22.07 | JeffM2501 | thinking outside the box |
| 01:22.08 | JeffM2501 | and all that |
| 01:22.15 | JeffM2501 | they make a cool "bing" sound tho :) |
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| 02:22.15 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bthansen 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: Sync poll bans to the banfile so they don't get lost on /ban and /reload commands |
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| 03:20.46 | Tegan | Are the flag names in scoreboards are always abbreviated, and if not, when are they spelled out? |
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| 03:28.44 | learner | Tegan, while you're carrying them, and on the help menus |
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| 03:41.28 | Tegan | learner, are they ever spelled out in the scoreboard itself? |
| 03:46.55 | Tegan | anyway, thx for the reply, I'll assume 2-char max for now. |
| 03:47.49 | learner | not that i'm aware of |
| 03:48.24 | learner | they're spelled out underneath the target box when you carry, but not on scoreboard afaik |
| 03:48.34 | Tegan | k |
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| 03:52.43 | Tegan | guess I'm not reading it right, then. |
| 03:56.59 | silverfox | is there a utility that would allow me to script/automate logging into a webpage and submitting a form? |
| 04:12.35 | Tegan | aw, pastebin doesn't take screenshot |
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| 04:14.22 | learner | there is no std::isnan() in iso c++ |
| 04:14.39 | spldart | Anything new on 2.1 unstable from sat to tonight? |
| 04:15.21 | Tegan | this is probably too trivial anyway |
| 04:16.15 | learner | you're not really supposed to use c99 stuff in c++, it's all compiler-specific extensions at best and with -pedantic or -ansi, it should fail outright |
| 04:17.46 | Tegan | it's a lousy idea but i was hoping to get a second opinion. :( |
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| 04:18.13 | learner | aww, she never even said what it was |
| 04:22.06 | silverfox | s/Mrs/Ms/ |
| 04:23.03 | orange | wonder why that didn't work |
| 04:24.52 | silverfox | missing quotes? |
| 04:25.12 | orange | this is Mrs |
| 04:25.15 | orange | s/Mrs/Ms/ |
| 04:25.19 | orange | this is Mrs. |
| 04:25.22 | orange | s/Mrs/Ms/ |
| 04:25.25 | orange | hmm |
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| 04:25.30 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v SportChick] by ChanServ |
| 04:25.37 | orange | oh, I bet it had to do with it being an action not a statement |
| 04:33.24 | trepan | learner: std::isnan() break something somewhere? |
| 04:35.04 | learner | heh, yep |
| 04:35.24 | learner | broken on all versions on mac and irix |
| 04:35.36 | learner | i think I have a fix that cheats around it hopefully |
| 04:35.45 | trepan | heh, took this long to find out... |
| 04:35.58 | spldart | ~ibot help |
| 04:36.01 | learner | i haven't compiled head in ages |
| 04:36.03 | trepan | (f != f) works, if the compiler doesn't optimize it |
| 04:36.07 | learner | at least more than individual files |
| 04:36.13 | trepan | volatile may help there |
| 04:36.23 | learner | there is an isnan() |
| 04:36.52 | learner | it's just not in the std namespace; that makes it a c++ extension |
| 04:37.35 | learner | i.e. libm provides an isnan, there is no templatized isnan in std though |
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| 04:38.43 | learner | which is kind of cheating in itself if we were going for compliance -- headers "could" leave out isnan even if we use -pedantic -ansi on the c++ compiler |
| 04:38.52 | trepan | learner: it's in the 2.0.5 branch too |
| 04:38.54 | learner | g++ just ignores it i suppose |
| 04:39.24 | learner | hmm, maybe not done a clean build there in a while i guess |
| 04:40.39 | learner | or 10.4 os x, where i've done most which has gcc 4 might have put it as an extension in std:: |
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| 04:56.52 | learner | still compiling, so maybe my fix worked |
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| 08:13.23 | LePoulpe303 | hi all ! |
| 08:13.31 | lan56 | bonjour |
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| 10:11.12 | trepan | not a great example, but it's working: http://trepan.bzflag.bz/noshow/parallax.jpg |
| 10:11.43 | purple_cow | bump mapping? |
| 10:11.48 | trepan | parallax |
| 10:12.17 | trepan | bump with a height map tweak |
| 10:15.58 | trepan | have to get the texcoord 'u' axis into an eye space vector and fed into a vertex attrib for meshes though... a pain |
| 10:16.41 | trepan | ... or object space, the latter being more flexible |
| 10:17.34 | trepan | kludging this piece of crap is mildly amusing |
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| 10:45.53 | LePoulpe30341 | i'm looking for a full of willingness artist (pref. with linux and/or windows) that could design me a few icons for my software ; anyone interested ? |
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| 12:17.57 | LePoulpe30341 | i'm looking for a full of willingness artist (pref. with linux and/or windows) that could design me a few icons for my software ; anyone interested ? |
| 12:21.15 | Pimpinella | LePoulpe30341: it's probably the wrong vhannel to ask for this... |
| 12:23.32 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10admin/master-bans.txt: alas molez wasn't nearly as interested in cooperating or stopping and intends to continue. ban for extensive public network abuse, spamming, disruptive behavior; irc spamming as well. |
| 12:24.16 | Grumbler | molez?...hmm, wasnt he one of the good ones for a time |
| 12:25.09 | brlcad | that he was |
| 12:26.23 | Pimpinella | just like db... |
| 12:26.37 | brlcad | i was frankly surprised myself, he's been a fine player in the past when I played |
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| 12:26.55 | brlcad | others who played with him more tell a different tale though |
| 12:27.26 | brlcad | regardless, talking with him was night and day compared to db |
| 12:27.57 | Grumbler | another one bites the dust |
| 12:28.18 | brlcad | molez wasn't the least bit remorseful for his disruptions and the time impacts he's been making, and even said he intends to continue so .. *sigh* |
| 12:28.33 | Pimpinella | he's always been a lil short tempered, but things might have turned worse after he had encountered a private desater |
| 12:29.12 | brlcad | yep, once his reputation was slightly tarnished, he eventually "snapped" or "turned" or whatever you want to call it |
| 12:29.34 | Grumbler | maybe in a year or two |
| 12:29.47 | brlcad | and now he's dug his own grave from which he doesn't feel he's got any means to get out (though he was offered a ladder and a hand) |
| 12:30.23 | Grumbler | on a more interesting topic, the non-photorealistic bzflag pics in the forums are awesome, |
| 12:30.40 | brlcad | oh, where? |
| 12:30.47 | Grumbler | bzbb |
| 12:30.51 | brlcad | heh |
| 12:31.01 | Grumbler | or my.bzflag or whatever they are called now :) |
| 12:31.04 | brlcad | not very helpful :) |
| 12:31.31 | Pimpinella | maybe you can provide us wth an url... |
| 12:31.44 | brlcad | found it :P http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6386 |
| 12:32.06 | Grumbler | you are faster than me |
| 12:36.00 | Pimpinella | brlcad: however molez' ip is dynamic |
| 12:36.06 | brlcad | yep, it is |
| 12:36.07 | Pimpinella | using a wide range |
| 12:36.19 | brlcad | and he _just_ discovered he's been banned |
| 12:36.26 | brlcad | he's on an aol link |
| 12:36.39 | brlcad | well, he's known for days that it was going to happen |
| 12:37.30 | brlcad | for now, i'll just ban them as they come |
| 12:37.32 | Pimpinella | just for info, do servers reload basterbans frequently? |
| 12:37.48 | LePoulpe30341 | Pimpinella : my proggy concerns bzflag that's why i ask there |
| 12:37.59 | brlcad | Pimpinella: within 10 minutes iirc |
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| 12:44.13 | Pimpinella | bans may need some more attention |
| 12:44.26 | Pimpinella | /reload deletes masterbans |
| 12:45.07 | Pimpinella | /masterban list shown no bans, even if /banlist lists them |
| 12:51.55 | brlcad | so far he's getting rejected |
| 12:52.17 | brlcad | so just have to let me know as he uses proxies |
| 12:52.42 | brlcad | (or as he uess new IPs) |
| 12:58.51 | *** join/#bzflag Mr_Molez (n=d48a40ad@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
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| 12:59.02 | Mr_Molez | u guys have seen http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com right ? |
| 12:59.19 | Mr_Molez | u guys have seen http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com right ? |
| 12:59.26 | Mr_Molez | whoa laggy |
| 12:59.59 | Mr_Molez | duno why, but for some reason http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com rulez |
| 13:00.22 | Mr_Molez | you all know ? |
| 13:01.02 | Mr_Molez | woot woot http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com |
| 13:01.38 | Mr_Molez | lol Birdie u suck cock ... visit http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com |
| 13:01.48 | *** kick/#bzflag [Mr_Molez!i=thilo@pdpc/supporter/active/Chestal] by Chestal (woot yourself) |
| 13:02.06 | *** join/#bzflag Mr_Molez (n=d48a40ad@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 13:02.16 | Mr_Molez | aww thats not nice |
| 13:02.30 | Mr_Molez | u didnt even visit http://bzflagcheat.blogspot.com |
| 13:02.51 | Mr_Molez | but yup.. Birdie sucks cock alright |
| 13:02.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*=d48a40ad@*.bzflag.bz] by Chestal |
| 13:02.53 | *** kick/#bzflag [Mr_Molez!i=thilo@pdpc/supporter/active/Chestal] by Chestal (bah) |
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| 13:08.39 | l33t__n3ss | WTF PART OF BIRDIE SUCKS COCK DONT U UNDERSTAND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM |
| 13:08.41 | l33t__n3ss | WTF PART OF BIRDIE SUCKS COCK DONT U UNDERSTAND !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HTTP://BZFLAGCHEAT.BLOGSPOT.COM |
| 13:08.43 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*=d48a40b2@*.concept69.de] by Chestal |
| 13:08.44 | *** kick/#bzflag [l33t__n3ss!i=thilo@pdpc/supporter/active/Chestal] by Chestal (go) |
| 13:08.50 | *** mode/#bzflag [+m] by Chestal |
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| 13:10.08 | *** part/#bzflag Mr_Molez (n=d48a40ac@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
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| 13:11.36 | *** kick/#bzflag [BIRDIESUCKSCOCK!i=thilo@pdpc/supporter/active/Chestal] by Chestal (Chestal) |
| 13:11.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [+r] by Chestal |
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| 13:12.56 | *** mode/#bzflag [+b *!*=d48a40ac@*.bzflag.bz] by Chestal |
| 13:12.56 | *** kick/#bzflag [BIRDIESUCKSCOCK!i=thilo@pdpc/supporter/active/Chestal] by Chestal (play outside) |
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| 13:27.36 | *** kick/#bzflag [BIRDIESUCKSCOCK!i=thilo@pdpc/supporter/active/Chestal] by Chestal (banzai) |
| 13:27.44 | Chestal | hmm |
| 13:28.10 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!*=d48a40b2@*.concept69.de] by Chestal |
| 13:28.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [-b *!*=d48a40ad@*.bzflag.bz] by Chestal |
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| 13:31.35 | *** kick/#bzflag [BIRDIESLUT!i=thilo@pdpc/supporter/active/Chestal] by Chestal (Chestal) |
| 13:31.39 | *** mode/#bzflag [+i] by Chestal |
| 13:31.56 | Chestal | such persistence... |
| 13:32.20 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Birdie] by Chestal |
| 13:32.32 | Birdie | ty |
| 13:32.47 | Chestal | hmm, actually |
| 13:32.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [-rm] by Chestal |
| 13:33.00 | *** mode/#bzflag [-v Birdie] by Chestal |
| 13:33.57 | Grumbler | well, you could look at this as a way to test those OP skills....to put a positive spin on this |
| 13:34.14 | Birdie | my op skills should be better i noticed:s |
| 13:34.16 | Chestal | some delay on nick registration would be handy |
| 13:34.32 | Chestal | or make a distinction between freshly registered and "old" nicks |
| 13:34.57 | Chestal | as is, +r might be useful against bots, but pretty useless against human pests |
| 13:35.22 | Birdie | they just register their nicks and keep on spamming |
| 13:36.03 | Grumbler | isnt this type of behavior where freenode OPs are suppose to come in and kick butt |
| 13:36.24 | Grumbler | or is this too minor |
| 13:36.30 | Birdie | they dont want cause its an attack to few channels and bzflag in particular |
| 13:36.30 | Chestal | I thought about contacting one, but I do not really see what they could do about it |
| 13:36.36 | Birdie | and they say the ops should take care of it |
| 13:37.04 | Chestal | he's just changing IPs/proxies |
| 13:37.22 | Grumbler | i noted the message from freenode when i joined this morning....figured it was coming from this |
| 13:38.04 | Chestal | which message? |
| 13:38.19 | Grumbler | [freenode-info] channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: |
| 13:38.22 | Grumbler | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.24 | Grumbler | [freenode-info] channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: |
| 13:38.28 | Grumbler | [freenode-info] channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: |
| 13:38.31 | Grumbler | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:38.39 | Grumbler | 65.94.160.181 - - [09/Jan/2006:05:02:20 -0500] "GET /Japan_webalbum/Kyoto/page.htm HTTP/1.0" 200 936 "-" "Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE |
| 13:38.43 | Grumbler | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.06 | Grumbler | 08:20 -!- [freenode-info] channel flooding and no channel staff around to help? please check with freenode support: |
| 13:39.10 | Grumbler | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:39.30 | Grumbler | gah, sry |
| 13:39.51 | Grumbler | :( |
| 13:40.18 | Grumbler | i dont usually page up and paste with irssi much |
| 13:41.06 | Chestal | I had my couple of paste accidents in IRC, too. Nowadays I usually test-paste first in another window :-) |
| 13:41.07 | trepan | checks with freenode support |
| 13:42.01 | Grumbler | heh, i dont have another window..... |
| 13:42.38 | trepan | what kinda winept system you using? |
| 13:43.33 | Grumbler | heh |
| 13:45.19 | BenUrban | heh, in xchat you rarely have paste accidents |
| 13:45.33 | BenUrban | since you have to hit enter before anything gets sent |
| 13:45.51 | BenUrban | (no matter how many lines there are) |
| 13:48.09 | eXtreme | can you invite brad2901 please? :p |
| 13:49.36 | *** join/#bzflag brad2901 (i=brad@unaffiliated/brad2901) |
| 13:49.40 | brad2901 | thanks Chestal |
| 14:08.17 | brad2901 | could someone invite hhhhhhh12 please? he needs some help |
| 14:08.48 | Chestal | great nick that is |
| 14:09.03 | brad2901 | yeah - seems like a nice guy though :) |
| 14:09.15 | *** join/#bzflag hhhhhhh12 (n=Bard@535426B0.cable.casema.nl) |
| 14:09.20 | hhhhhhh12 | hi all |
| 14:09.34 | hhhhhhh12 | i have a little problem with my bzflag installation |
| 14:09.51 | hhhhhhh12 | on linux, FC4 |
| 14:10.06 | hhhhhhh12 | sound doest work at all, getting strange noises |
| 14:10.47 | hhhhhhh12 | can anyone help me with this problem? |
| 14:12.13 | Chestal | you can try and set the sound driver and device settings in bzflag, depending on what you are using system wide (alsa, oss, maybe a sound daemon). I don't know what to set there exactly, though. |
| 14:13.04 | hhhhhhh12 | i tried, put salsa in on both options |
| 14:13.10 | hhhhhhh12 | but has no effect |
| 14:13.36 | hhhhhhh12 | i only get strange noises |
| 14:13.40 | Chestal | you running artsd or something? |
| 14:13.55 | hhhhhhh12 | only 1 sound i recognize, thats the plop when starting tank |
| 14:14.06 | hhhhhhh12 | i am a bit new to linux |
| 14:14.09 | hhhhhhh12 | -bit |
| 14:14.18 | hhhhhhh12 | i think only salsa |
| 14:14.29 | hhhhhhh12 | but kde messed some things up |
| 14:14.37 | Chestal | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/20050128.html.gz has someone with similarproblem maybe |
| 14:14.42 | hhhhhhh12 | k |
| 14:14.52 | hhhhhhh12 | will see at that site for more info |
| 14:14.53 | hhhhhhh12 | thanx |
| 14:16.12 | Chestal | it probably came up on http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ before, too |
| 14:17.25 | brlcad | wow, that's a pretty annoying nick :) |
| 14:17.37 | hhhhhhh12 | oeps |
| 14:17.56 | hhhhhhh12 | i just restarted bzflag and everything works fine |
| 14:18.07 | hhhhhhh12 | do i need to restart to make changes take effect? |
| 14:18.15 | hhhhhhh12 | hmmm |
| 14:18.20 | hhhhhhh12 | thanx anyway |
| 14:18.30 | Chestal | hmm, not sure :-) |
| 14:18.34 | hhhhhhh12 | i do now |
| 14:18.45 | hhhhhhh12 | now it works |
| 14:18.51 | hhhhhhh12 | see you all on the battlefields |
| 14:19.01 | Chestal | brlcad: saw the spamming? |
| 14:19.07 | Chestal | hhhhhhh12: have fun |
| 14:19.09 | hhhhhhh12 | bye A/all |
| 14:19.19 | hhhhhhh12 | its Bard, but thats already registred |
| 14:19.21 | hhhhhhh12 | ;) |
| 14:19.25 | *** part/#bzflag hhhhhhh12 (n=Bard@535426B0.cable.casema.nl) |
| 14:20.13 | brlcad | Chestal: nah, I meant the guy that just left with all the 'h's .. only half-joking |
| 14:20.45 | Chestal | brlcad: yes, I know. My question was unrelated |
| 14:21.18 | Grumbler | brlcad: mr molez was back spamming, did you see it? |
| 14:23.01 | brlcad | Chestal: ah, yes, just read it now |
| 14:23.25 | brlcad | not surprised -- he's been getting rejections on the list server |
| 14:23.48 | Chestal | I made the channel invite only for now |
| 14:24.09 | brlcad | i think he did somehow make it into viper2 though with a long callsign -- is there a viper admin that can check? |
| 14:24.25 | Birdie | what do you want to know? |
| 14:24.30 | Birdie | more: how can i find out |
| 14:24.59 | brlcad | does viper2 pull up the global banlist? |
| 14:25.11 | brlcad | he seems to have connected with a callsign of "lIFuP2vCdUxSngPQpC98t2VCxuRW10d" |
| 14:25.18 | Birdie | what a callsign:s |
| 14:25.34 | Birdie | molez changes ip bigtime though,pimpinella was planning today to search a way to keep him out |
| 14:25.43 | brlcad | this is still his same ip |
| 14:25.46 | Birdie | oh |
| 14:25.47 | Birdie | hmm |
| 14:26.17 | Birdie | you need manu or pimpi to check that though |
| 14:27.32 | Birdie | i saw him yesterday on #dub to, and banned him |
| 14:27.44 | Birdie | dub the server i mean |
| 14:28.40 | brlcad | he was only globally banned as of this morning (about 10 minutes before he showed up here) as I was waiting for him to play |
| 14:43.51 | Birdie | pls invite ToughShooter |
| 14:43.53 | _Manu_ | Birdie, the ip brlcad banned is the last he used at DUB |
| 14:44.09 | Birdie | _Manu_ : thx |
| 14:44.23 | _Manu_ | Mr_Zelom :) |
| 14:44.27 | Birdie | yep |
| 14:44.32 | Birdie | i banned him when i saw him |
| 14:44.34 | _Manu_ | reverse molez |
| 14:44.38 | Birdie | propably thats the reason why he is so nice to me today |
| 14:44.44 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 14:45.04 | _Manu_ | yes, he give you some flowers a while ago |
| 14:45.22 | _Manu_ | s/give/gaves |
| 14:45.35 | Birdie | i wished those were flowers but.. |
| 14:55.04 | brlcad | _Manu_: do you see when he last connected? |
| 14:55.18 | _Manu_ | yes |
| 14:55.22 | _Manu_ | wait... |
| 14:55.53 | _Manu_ | yesterday 22:00h |
| 14:55.58 | _Manu_ | when birdie banned him |
| 14:56.09 | _Manu_ | 22:00h GMT |
| 14:57.03 | brlcad | viper2, using callsign shown above? |
| 14:57.24 | _Manu_ | no, he was at DUB |
| 14:57.35 | _Manu_ | let me check in viper |
| 14:57.52 | Birdie | on DUB he was "Mr Zelom" (identified, dunno if global) |
| 14:58.18 | _Manu_ | Mr_Zelom was global |
| 14:58.19 | brlcad | viper2 is the one that i'm wondering about |
| 14:58.27 | _Manu_ | yes.. wait :) |
| 14:58.35 | brlcad | birdie's ban was well before the global |
| 14:59.02 | _Manu_ | brlcad, not seen at viper the last two days |
| 14:59.16 | brlcad | _Manu_: search logs for "lIFuP2vCdUxSngPQpC98t2VCxuRW10d" |
| 14:59.27 | _Manu_ | yes, I see it now :/ |
| 14:59.29 | brlcad | earlier today |
| 14:59.44 | _Manu_ | today 12:40:20 |
| 15:00.01 | _Manu_ | 3 hours ago |
| 15:00.16 | brlcad | did he actually connect? |
| 15:00.46 | _Manu_ | I guess no, |
| 15:00.46 | brlcad | maybe viper simply hadn't loaded the global banlist yet |
| 15:00.48 | _Manu_ | disconnected |
| 15:00.55 | brlcad | hrm |
| 15:01.18 | _Manu_ | but he joined and the rejoint time shows it |
| 15:01.21 | _Manu_ | rejoin |
| 15:01.32 | brlcad | yeah, about 4 or 5 times |
| 15:01.45 | brlcad | doesn't show any game activity though? |
| 15:02.04 | _Manu_ | some times got desconnected: ECONNRESET/EPIPE |
| 15:02.56 | _Manu_ | brlcad, no |
| 15:03.25 | brlcad | ah, then maybe just trying to crash the server |
| 15:04.45 | _Manu_ | brlcad, Jan 12 14:49:01 menegroth viper: Player lIFuP2vCdUxSngPQpC98t2VCxuRW10d [17] has joined from 172.216.38.191 at 2006-01-12 13:49:01 with token "5sv0dmLuFazU3GDe3MzwV" |
| 15:05.04 | _Manu_ | and then: Jan 12 14:49:02 menegroth viper: Player lIFuP2vCdUxSngPQpC98t2VCxuRW10d [17] removed at 2006-01-12 13:49:02: ECONNRESET/EPIPE |
| 15:05.39 | _Manu_ | every time he tried got disconnected because ECONNRESET/EPIPE |
| 15:06.27 | _Manu_ | brlcad, to crash the server? :) he is bad |
| 15:07.57 | *** join/#bzflag SportChick (n=SportChi@ca-redbch-cuda1-c3b-a-40.stmnca.adelphia.net) |
| 15:07.57 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v SportChick] by ChanServ |
| 15:08.04 | SportChick | ty brlcad |
| 15:08.08 | SportChick | brlcad: what happened? |
| 15:08.24 | _Manu_ | troublemakers |
| 15:08.35 | _Manu_ | really troublemaker |
| 15:08.39 | Pimpinella | brlcad, _Manu_ : yes, i've seen that weird callsign while playing |
| 15:08.48 | Pimpinella | connected as observer |
| 15:08.51 | _Manu_ | he is Mr_Molez |
| 15:09.15 | Pimpinella | yeah, thougt so |
| 15:09.34 | Pimpinella | it poped up and signed of almost instantly |
| 15:09.34 | brlcad | so maybe the ban was working, I was just surprised to see the ADD message |
| 15:09.43 | _Manu_ | yes, disconnected |
| 15:09.50 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 15:09.56 | Birdie | brlcad: can you invite toughShooter to? |
| 15:10.11 | Pimpinella | brlcad: the masterban didn't load while i tried |
| 15:10.22 | Pimpinella | lemme try again |
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| 15:11.34 | _Manu_ | global is not at viper :( |
| 15:11.42 | _Manu_ | mean masterbans |
| 15:12.08 | _Manu_ | now it is |
| 15:12.12 | Pimpinella | when i tried masterban list it said non leaded |
| 15:12.20 | Pimpinella | but i loaded before |
| 15:12.37 | Pimpinella | i reloaded it, but the molez ban isn't included |
| 15:12.42 | Pimpinella | as earlier |
| 15:13.21 | Pimpinella | still /masterban list shows an empty list while the masterbans are listed in /banlist |
| 15:14.00 | _Manu_ | Pimpinella, you must use /masterbanlist |
| 15:14.18 | _Manu_ | /masterban list shows it at viper |
| 15:14.44 | Pimpinella | so what is "/masterban list" for? |
| 15:15.14 | Pimpinella | it's given in the commands help message and it returns an empty list |
| 15:15.18 | _Manu_ | for listing masteban list :) |
| 15:15.28 | _Manu_ | I executed it at viper and works |
| 15:15.54 | Pimpinella | returns bans? |
| 15:15.55 | Pimpinella | not when i tried |
| 15:15.55 | _Manu_ | yes, the ban list |
| 15:16.01 | _Manu_ | because I did /masterban load at first :) |
| 15:16.25 | *** mode/#bzflag [-i] by brlcad |
| 15:17.01 | Pimpinella | i did /masterban reload before |
| 15:17.16 | Pimpinella | and neither DB ban nor Molez' is listerd |
| 15:17.31 | brlcad | have the right url? |
| 15:17.54 | *** join/#bzflag TheRedBaron (n=d8ada652@genesis.concept69.de) |
| 15:18.43 | Pimpinella | while at least DB's ban is listed with /banlist |
| 15:19.04 | Pimpinella | i don't think i changed default |
| 15:19.09 | _Manu_ | master ban list is loaded, but it isn't Mr_molez's ip :/ |
| 15:20.25 | brlcad | TheRedBaron: sorry, have to use non-web irc client right now |
| 15:20.40 | Pimpinella | http://bzflag.org/master-bans.txt |
| 15:20.54 | TheRedBaron | brlcad: no problem, i understand |
| 15:21.39 | Pimpinella | is that the correct url? |
| 15:22.04 | _Manu_ | yes, but the last ban is not showed at servers ban list |
| 15:22.10 | brlcad | TheRedBaron: actually never mind .. we'll just see how it goes i suppose |
| 15:22.18 | _Manu_ | the last showed is DB's ban |
| 15:22.20 | brlcad | Pimpinella: yes |
| 15:22.28 | brlcad | oops, theres a typo in there |
| 15:22.39 | _Manu_ | brlcad, the last ban at list is not loaded |
| 15:22.50 | Pimpinella | oh, it is |
| 15:23.18 | Pimpinella | but it seems the whole banning stuff is borked somehow |
| 15:23.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10admin/master-bans.txt: missing a colon |
| 15:24.50 | Grumbler | this list needs a colonoscopy |
| 15:24.55 | _Manu_ | brlcad, now it is :) |
| 15:25.24 | TheRedBaron | grumbler... ewww |
| 15:28.16 | Pimpinella | _Manu_: reloaded? |
| 15:29.53 | brlcad | who runs bzflag0.gamesunited.de ? |
| 15:29.59 | brad2901 | gsl |
| 15:30.03 | brlcad | it's being attacked with the crash bug atm |
| 15:30.26 | brad2901 | A PM on the gu.de forums might be the quickest way of contact |
| 15:30.35 | brlcad | would you? |
| 15:30.41 | Pimpinella | is the crash bug fixed? |
| 15:30.42 | brad2901 | sure |
| 15:30.52 | brad2901 | what do you want me to say? |
| 15:30.54 | Pimpinella | guess so if viper survived |
| 15:31.20 | Birdie | GU is known of answering with lots of delay.. |
| 15:31.59 | Grumbler | not everybody lives and dies on the internet |
| 15:32.24 | Pimpinella | sooner or later we'll get them too... |
| 15:35.34 | TheRedBaron | grumbler: ahh, his bark is worse than his bite |
| 15:35.40 | TheRedBaron | a nice guy like this? http://pics.bzleague.com/displayimage.php?album=8&pos=0 |
| 15:36.31 | Grumbler | beware little people in strollers |
| 15:36.35 | brlcad | hehe |
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| 16:00.41 | Birdie | brlcad: 172.216.38.191 is the ip molez has for the moment |
| 16:01.04 | *** part/#bzflag ToughShooter (n=ts@p54B03250.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:01.14 | *** join/#bzflag ToughShooter (n=ts@p54B03250.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
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| 16:08.04 | orchid | ← |
| 16:08.50 | brlcad | exactly. |
| 16:15.51 | Grumbler | scary, orchid was reading my mind |
| 16:21.09 | _Manu_ | Pimpinella, yes viper has the fix :) |
| 16:22.45 | Grumbler | is viper even involved in the viper site anymore? |
| 16:22.54 | Pimpinella | no |
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| 16:23.33 | Pimpinella | hasn't been for quite a while and was never really much |
| 16:23.50 | Grumbler | didnt he design the basic map? |
| 16:23.51 | Pimpinella | though me made the original map of coure |
| 16:23.56 | Pimpinella | course |
| 16:23.58 | Grumbler | ah |
| 16:25.10 | _Manu_ | I didn't see viper since one year go |
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| 16:25.49 | Grumbler | heh, a curious situation |
| 16:26.19 | _Manu_ | yes we know it ;) |
| 16:27.01 | Pimpinella | it's a well known name, no need to change it ;) |
| 16:27.36 | Grumbler | yeah, a Manu server might cause a rebellion :) |
| 16:27.50 | _Manu_ | lol |
| 16:28.37 | _Manu_ | really viper started with other maps |
| 16:28.43 | _Manu_ | ducatiwannabe most of them |
| 16:29.00 | Pimpinella | and dutchrai |
| 16:29.08 | _Manu_ | yes, the first one was dutchrai |
| 16:29.20 | Grumbler | i thought the viper map was original |
| 16:29.32 | Pimpinella | it came soon |
| 16:29.59 | _Manu_ | iirc the server started in May and in June was running the two castles |
| 16:30.05 | Pimpinella | but the very first map running on the server was from dutchrai |
| 16:31.49 | _Manu_ | and you Grumbler, never play bzflag? |
| 16:32.12 | Grumbler | heh, not much as of late |
| 16:32.39 | TheRedBaron | dutchrai's maps are genius :) |
| 16:33.06 | _Manu_ | yes, I like his style |
| 16:33.49 | Grumbler | i still have admin rights on a couple servers...i check in there from time to time |
| 16:33.56 | TheRedBaron | http://shellshock.bzflag.bz Although its a little outdated, it has a complete list of all his maps |
| 16:34.07 | _Manu_ | Grumbler, to test if you lost it? :) |
| 16:34.26 | Grumbler | heh, no, just to make sure there is active admining going on |
| 16:34.40 | Grumbler | although my banning skills are slipping :) |
| 16:34.57 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 16:35.36 | Grumbler | i am still waiting for that one killer map enviroment to bring me back full bore |
| 16:35.58 | TheRedBaron | oh? |
| 16:36.24 | Grumbler | i am also checking out CoD2 and how some common issues are handled |
| 16:36.56 | Grumbler | bzflag definitely has better filters |
| 16:37.36 | Pimpinella | filters? |
| 16:37.43 | Grumbler | chat filters |
| 16:37.59 | Grumbler | CoD2 just passes it all through right now |
| 16:38.23 | Grumbler | also callsign filters |
| 16:39.08 | Grumbler | one thing i do like is the chat message expire, so if someone does snap into a profanity rage, its gone in 15 seconds |
| 16:39.35 | Grumbler | on the downside, there is no scrolling back |
| 16:39.51 | Grumbler | at least, not that i know of now |
| 16:40.08 | Grumbler | many commands are buried and not commonly documented |
| 16:40.31 | Pimpinella | on CoD2 or bz? |
| 16:40.37 | Grumbler | CoD2 |
| 16:41.48 | Grumbler | lag issues are about the same, only the magnitudes are different....ie 50-70ms playable, >100 not so much |
| 16:42.32 | Grumbler | fps is critcal, people with killer systems dont have to have the skill score well |
| 16:42.54 | Grumbler | s/skill score/skill to score/ |
| 16:43.54 | Grumbler | several weapons are overpowered, shotgun, thompson, most russian automatics for example |
| 16:44.29 | Grumbler | but in general, beyond the richer graphic enviroments, the issues are identical to bzflag |
| 16:45.57 | Grumbler | i do like the voice comms, but that is handled external to CoD2 itself, so really, bzflag could have the same feature |
| 16:47.17 | Grumbler | CTF has some nice tweaks, you cant capture your opponents flag if your team flag is not at the base.... |
| 16:47.59 | TheRedBaron | grumbler, I do not like that tweak... |
| 16:48.05 | Grumbler | heh |
| 16:48.13 | TheRedBaron | nor do I like the tweak, that if you run over you flag, it goes back to your base... |
| 16:48.13 | Grumbler | i do |
| 16:48.18 | Pimpinella | it's at least interesting |
| 16:48.23 | TheRedBaron | it should be a fight to take it back or forward |
| 16:48.44 | TheRedBaron | If you've played Halo its the same |
| 16:48.48 | Pimpinella | like trepans all hands on deck it's an intereting variation |
| 16:48.55 | TheRedBaron | can't cap without your flag at your base, and if you run over your flag, poof, its back at your base |
| 16:48.55 | Grumbler | it would be nice to have more options with the gameplay |
| 16:49.23 | Grumbler | in CoD2 that is |
| 16:49.56 | Grumbler | TheRedBaron: i havent played Halo, i just picked up CoD2 for a change |
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| 16:50.25 | TheRedBaron | Grumbler: i'm pretty sure bzflag's ctf is "one of a kind" or at best, rare |
| 16:50.58 | TheRedBaron | most FPS ctf games are like CoD2/Halo |
| 16:52.09 | Pimpinella | the best feature in bz is, that it's variable. every map has it's own characteristics and even then the way you have to play it largely depends on the server settings. |
| 16:52.22 | Pimpinella | everything is very variable |
| 16:52.55 | Grumbler | except the look of the tanks :) |
| 16:54.48 | _Manu_ | yes, it's a lack |
| 16:55.11 | _Manu_ | all the tanks are equals |
| 16:55.23 | Grumbler | from a comparison, i think the bzdevs should be pretty happy/proud, because the CoD2 is really not so great that I would denegrate bzflag in any way. |
| 16:56.29 | _Manu_ | bzflag is simple, funny and addictive |
| 16:56.36 | _Manu_ | and free |
| 16:57.22 | Grumbler | i wouldnt mind seeing that cartoon-like version tweaked to become a standard enviroment. |
| 16:57.32 | Grumbler | free is a good thing |
| 16:57.41 | *** join/#bzflag gsnedders (n=geoffrey@host86-138-196-110.range86-138.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:57.44 | _Manu_ | yes, also for the cheaters :( |
| 16:57.59 | _Manu_ | because it's open source |
| 16:58.15 | Grumbler | cheaters exist in the paid versions as well....and they are more sophisticated |
| 16:58.28 | _Manu_ | more? |
| 16:59.12 | _Manu_ | well at last they must dissasemble the bynary to study it |
| 16:59.14 | Grumbler | yeah, they have more control of turning on/off the cheat, more random nature in the auto aimers..etc.... |
| 16:59.30 | _Manu_ | s/the bynary /the binary/ |
| 16:59.35 | Grumbler | its usually a pretty basic cheat in bz |
| 17:00.00 | _Manu_ | yes, except the endShot cheat all were well known |
| 17:00.18 | _Manu_ | and nothing imaginatives |
| 17:00.40 | Grumbler | nothing that we know of :) |
| 17:01.16 | _Manu_ | and most of them have no idea about how to cheat, simply they copied the code |
| 17:01.27 | Grumbler | yep |
| 17:03.11 | gsnedders | would this be valid: world name example_world end |
| 17:03.22 | orchid | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6386 is there supposed to be some picture here? |
| 17:04.07 | Grumbler | you have to download the PNG images |
| 17:04.31 | _Manu_ | orchid, there are |
| 17:04.40 | orchid | hm |
| 17:04.52 | SportChick | brlcad: ping |
| 17:05.11 | orchid | I don't see a link for png's |
| 17:05.30 | Grumbler | its in the first post |
| 17:05.46 | Grumbler | posted by Sax |
| 17:06.00 | _Manu_ | orchid, try this one: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/download.php?id=3217&sid=efa900a395ae4bb7312ed976b8e4fb34 |
| 17:06.28 | orchid | duh |
| 17:06.34 | orchid | I wasnt logged in :) sry |
| 17:06.41 | Grumbler | heh |
| 17:06.45 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 17:16.12 | gsnedders | would work in bzfs: world name example_world end ? |
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| 17:43.08 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 17:45.42 | JeffM2501 | well we arn't +m tha'ts good :) |
| 17:46.54 | sniperyyd | what does that option? |
| 17:47.06 | JeffM2501 | moderated |
| 17:47.08 | JeffM2501 | voice to talk |
| 17:47.23 | sniperyyd | ah |
| 17:47.24 | sniperyyd | k |
| 17:51.44 | brlcad | we were briefly invite-only |
| 17:51.53 | brlcad | but that didn't need to persist |
| 17:53.09 | JeffM2501 | so he atempted to make good on his threat? |
| 17:53.13 | JeffM2501 | how are the servers? |
| 17:53.42 | brlcad | they're fine |
| 17:53.49 | brlcad | he's been blocked most of the day |
| 17:53.58 | JeffM2501 | good |
| 17:54.16 | JeffM2501 | wonder what his "demands" are? |
| 17:54.39 | orchid | he has demands? |
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| 17:54.53 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v Tupone] by ChanServ |
| 17:54.58 | JeffM2501 | aperantly |
| 17:56.05 | menotume | we don't negotiate with terrorists |
| 17:56.14 | blast007 | heh |
| 17:56.28 | blast007 | just reading that post... |
| 17:59.00 | menotume | i posted |
| 17:59.57 | JeffM2501 | how can you negotiate if you don't know what he wants |
| 18:00.03 | JeffM2501 | maybe he wants a cookie |
| 18:00.04 | menotume | :) |
| 18:00.08 | JeffM2501 | hell I'll send him a cookie |
| 18:00.13 | JeffM2501 | just gimme an address |
| 18:00.13 | menotume | i wouldn't give it to him :) |
| 18:00.14 | blast007 | or a swift kick in the butt |
| 18:07.24 | JeffM2501 | actualy it dosn't really matter, the actions he has been doing have been dwindling of late. to me it looks like all his friends have left him, and he's just full of hot air |
| 18:17.41 | JeffM2501 | or maybe he's just lonely... like he lost his true love to a freak virtual tank accedent, so now he's lashing out at the source of his lonlely, but all he realy wants to do is be loved. |
| 18:19.21 | orange | I think he's a troubled kid who probably truly deserves some sympathy, but has crossed the line of what can be forgiven. Many people reached out to him in one way or another, but he was unwilling or unable to accept it. |
| 18:20.27 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (n=bryjen@63.147.94.149) |
| 18:20.29 | orange | well, he can be forgiven, eventually, but will never have respect or trust. He says it doesn't matter to him now, but it will when he understands what it truly means. |
| 18:22.38 | JeffM2501 | I don't think he's a kid |
| 18:22.46 | Birdie | 19years old |
| 18:22.47 | JeffM2501 | not at all |
| 18:23.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah he's jus a bitter souther a$$hole |
| 18:23.25 | JeffM2501 | there are a number of people who simply like to piss people off |
| 18:38.10 | orchid | whats the best to0ls to clean a windows pc these days? ive got to fix another pc for a friend (oh joy) adaware and spybot? |
| 18:39.03 | Tupone | linux fdisk |
| 18:39.12 | Birdie | orchid: i use those 2 to |
| 18:39.14 | Tupone | and mkes2 |
| 18:39.33 | orchid | Tupone: :) |
| 18:39.57 | Tupone | mke2fs |
| 18:40.05 | Tupone | :) |
| 18:40.26 | Tupone | don't stay with FAT. Is patented |
| 18:40.45 | BearPerson | ntfs is hardly-writeable |
| 18:41.17 | Tupone | I guess ntfs is patented too |
| 18:47.22 | bryjen | something about the methods for having long-filenames on FAT is patented. the original 8.3 FAT layout is too old, patent period expired. |
| 18:48.05 | bryjen | or so i've read |
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| 18:55.29 | spldart | ~bzfquery spldart.bakadigital.com |
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| 18:56.59 | spldart | Any list server issues today? I'm on and off for some reason ?confused? |
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| 18:59.13 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v _Manu_] by ChanServ |
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| 19:04.32 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v orchid] by ChanServ |
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| 19:22.36 | JeffM2501 | like jessica rabbit, she corrects bad habbits... gets her drinks for free |
| 19:30.03 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v SportChick] by ChanServ |
| 19:36.03 | brlcad | spldart: no issues |
| 19:36.09 | brlcad | known |
| 19:37.23 | brlcad | moderate load, but nothing abnormal |
| 19:37.27 | orchid | Birdie: spybot.info or safer-networking.org are they the same? |
| 19:38.16 | orchid | spy-bot.com |
| 19:38.24 | Birdie | no idea actually:( |
| 19:40.11 | Birdie | there excist one thing, that has everything in one |
| 19:40.19 | Birdie | adware, spybot, and 2 or 3 others |
| 19:40.23 | Birdie | but i forgot the name:( |
| 19:40.28 | orchid | oh really |
| 19:40.49 | Birdie | i"ll try to find the name |
| 19:42.06 | Birdie | its called "hitmanpro", but i'm afraid i can only find it on dutch sites, and not on english |
| 19:43.03 | orchid | ~nl en download |
| 19:43.09 | orchid | ~x nl en download |
| 19:43.40 | _Manu_ | ~x en nl download |
| 19:43.47 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 19:43.55 | Birdie | download is a good word in our language:) |
| 19:44.19 | _Manu_ | ~x en es download |
| 19:44.27 | _Manu_ | lol |
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| 19:45.23 | ToughShooter | ~x en de download |
| 19:45.32 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 19:45.33 | ToughShooter | stupid ibot |
| 19:45.43 | _Manu_ | spanish translation is wrong and funny |
| 19:46.09 | ToughShooter | I know, once I have spoken spanish halfway good |
| 19:46.20 | orchid | ive got it Birdie but the dl link Is broken :) |
| 19:46.21 | sniperyyd | ~x en de komputer |
| 19:46.23 | _Manu_ | download -> descargar |
| 19:46.25 | sniperyyd | ;) |
| 19:46.32 | Birdie | orchid: oops:( |
| 19:46.32 | orchid | well it times out |
| 19:46.35 | sniperyyd | ~x en de computer |
| 19:46.45 | sniperyyd | stoopid |
| 19:46.51 | Birdie | i hope you can turn english language on though |
| 19:46.54 | _Manu_ | heh, nothing found |
| 19:46.57 | Birdie | otherwise you will need my help:) |
| 19:46.58 | ToughShooter | ibot doesn't know the translation :) |
| 19:47.04 | sniperyyd | :o) |
| 19:55.11 | spldart | thanks for the info brlcad |
| 20:01.46 | PuMpErNiCkLe | ~x en de quack |
| 20:03.27 | blast007 | there's also a tool called HijackThis, but it's not automatic, so you have to know what is good, and what is bad |
| 20:10.35 | orchid | hmm |
| 20:10.59 | orchid | maybe I should tell people I cant fix their computers |
| 20:21.04 | orchid | [orchid@morcheeba:~/w32tools] $ ls |
| 20:21.04 | orchid | aawsepersonal.exe HijackThis.exe spybotsd14.exe |
| 20:21.04 | orchid | FirefoxSetup01.5.exe hitmanpro233.exe spybotsd_includes.exe |
| 20:24.49 | Birdie | i think you have enough:) |
| 20:25.05 | Birdie | is there a nice virusscan? |
| 20:25.18 | spldart | I only got half of those :( |
| 20:26.35 | _Manu_ | Birdie, windows is the better virusscan ;) |
| 20:26.44 | Birdie | :) |
| 20:26.45 | _Manu_ | it detects all the viruses |
| 20:28.05 | Birdie | lol |
| 20:28.11 | Birdie | if it would remove them to.. |
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| 20:28.33 | _Manu_ | and warns you changing his behaviour |
| 20:28.41 | _Manu_ | only scan, not remove :) |
| 20:30.10 | _Manu_ | Birdie, when windows detects a virus, warns you closing program, blocking your computer, powering off your computer... really effective |
| 20:30.31 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 20:30.40 | Birdie | its so good that 50% of the people here refuse to work with it or use it minimally:) |
| 20:30.44 | *** join/#bzflag Rip (n=52209911@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 20:30.59 | _Manu_ | and is so good that let you share your computer to others |
| 20:31.15 | Rip | hi |
| 20:31.20 | _Manu_ | hi |
| 20:31.37 | Rip | i'm having probs with Bzflag on a new install of mandriva |
| 20:32.23 | Rip | i can log onto maps no prob and navigate, but it seems my shots dont 'kill' anyone else though they seem to be able to shoot me ok - it's not just that i'm a poor shot lol |
| 20:32.53 | _Manu_ | are you behind a firewall? |
| 20:33.03 | Rip | and my lag is no worse than other folks |
| 20:33.06 | RPG_ | are you running a 64 bit version of linux? |
| 20:33.30 | _Manu_ | ... |
| 20:33.41 | Rip | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:33.58 | Rip | "suse" machine oops |
| 20:34.47 | ToughShooter | Can you try to compile BZFlag with gcc-3.x? |
| 20:35.16 | Rip | tank drive and jumps ok and fires shots though they dont destroy other tanks even though it looks like good hit |
| 20:35.26 | Rip | how do i do that ? |
| 20:35.47 | ToughShooter | It should not change the effect but maybe it does. Might worth a try. |
| 20:35.54 | _Manu_ | it's like a udp problem, only you can see your bullets |
| 20:36.21 | Rip | i am not ssure if anyone else can see them ... |
| 20:36.23 | orchid | Birdie: I got the dutch version |
| 20:36.29 | Rip | how do i compile? |
| 20:36.36 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Rip: Was it compiled with GCC4? |
| 20:36.40 | orchid | maakt niet uit, m'n nederlands is redelijk |
| 20:36.41 | _Manu_ | sure no because you can't kill them |
| 20:36.49 | Rip | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:36.50 | Birdie | orchid: wow! |
| 20:36.59 | Birdie | did you really said that without looking it up? |
| 20:37.02 | _Manu_ | gcc4 works fine at last for me |
| 20:37.08 | Rip | i just updated with urpmi |
| 20:37.18 | _Manu_ | Birdie, with a high probability yes |
| 20:37.24 | Rip | fresh install, then update. |
| 20:37.32 | _Manu_ | he told is not so bad |
| 20:37.45 | orchid | Birdie: :) |
| 20:37.46 | PuMpErNiCkLe | _Manu_: There were some problems reported on teh forums... early versions of gcc4, optimization, BZflag didn't mix so well. |
| 20:37.56 | Rip | how do i go about compiling with gcc3x |
| 20:38.03 | _Manu_ | I compiled it with 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 and works fine |
| 20:38.14 | _Manu_ | and latest mandriva uses > 4.0.0 |
| 20:38.16 | PuMpErNiCkLe | okay then - it's probably fixed |
| 20:38.31 | ToughShooter | umm, gcc_select lets you choose the used gcc version |
| 20:39.35 | Rip | should i download a new version? then ? |
| 20:39.40 | Grumbler | orchid: registry first aid is a nice tool |
| 20:40.47 | orchid | Grumbler: k |
| 20:41.22 | _Manu_ | Rip, can you join: jujibo.pimpi.org:5154? |
| 20:41.33 | Grumbler | then there is spywareblaster....which is recommended by spybot, so not sure its really that separate |
| 20:41.41 | Rip | on bzflag server? |
| 20:42.00 | _Manu_ | yes |
| 20:42.06 | orchid | grumbler http://www.rosecitysoftware.com/reg1aid/ ? |
| 20:42.21 | _Manu_ | just type at server name: jujibo.pimpi.org |
| 20:42.21 | _Manu_ | and port: 5154 |
| 20:42.21 | _Manu_ | is not in list |
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| 20:43.10 | Rip | i can try - steps ? |
| 20:43.10 | Grumbler | orchid: yeah, thats it....cant comment on the making it faster, but it does clean up old uninstalls nicely |
| 20:43.23 | _Manu_ | 1 - join game |
| 20:43.29 | Birdie | lucky there is good old grumbler! |
| 20:43.45 | _Manu_ | 2 down arrow untill Server: then write jujibo.pimpi.org |
| 20:43.52 | _Manu_ | same to port and write 5154 |
| 20:44.02 | _Manu_ | then select connect and press intro |
| 20:45.30 | _Manu_ | Rip, can you join? |
| 20:49.13 | _Manu_ | Birdie, I was right ;-p |
| 20:49.35 | Birdie | i guess he is on windows:) |
| 20:53.31 | Rip | thanks manu / tough i'll shoot you when i see you (purely by way of demonstration you understand) |
| 20:53.38 | Rip | night |
| 20:57.24 | _Manu_ | Birdie, mandriva is not windows ;) |
| 20:57.42 | Birdie | i never heard from mandriva |
| 20:57.53 | _Manu_ | and Mandrake? |
| 20:58.00 | Birdie | thats sounds more known |
| 20:58.08 | Birdie | but dont really know what it actually is |
| 20:58.17 | _Manu_ | it changed the name to mandriva |
| 20:58.23 | _Manu_ | French linux distro |
| 20:59.01 | _Manu_ | http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mandriva |
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| 21:01.45 | Birdie | hehe, the first thing i read on that link: use linux |
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| 21:03.22 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 21:03.39 | _Manu_ | Birdie, never heard about distrowatch? |
| 21:03.47 | Birdie | no:/ |
| 21:04.03 | TD-Linux | test |
| 21:04.05 | Birdie | i know, i should know more about all this |
| 21:04.06 | Birdie | :) |
| 21:04.14 | TD-Linux | yay! |
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| 21:10.39 | ToughShooter | Hi Tegan |
| 21:10.47 | Tegan | greetings ToughShooter |
| 21:10.55 | Birdie | hey tegan |
| 21:11.00 | Tegan | hi birdie |
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| 21:30.43 | TD-Linux | does the latest anon bzfsAPI.h work? |
| 21:31.25 | TD-Linux | I tried making my own project with Dev-C++ and can't compile any plugins |
| 21:31.42 | TD-Linux | ohhhhhh |
| 21:31.43 | TD-Linux | duh |
| 21:31.51 | TD-Linux | have to switch it to Win32 DLL :) |
| 21:32.02 | TD-Linux | didn't change anything |
| 21:35.21 | JeffM2501 | last I understood devC++ was not setup to do plugins |
| 21:35.35 | TD-Linux | I tried doing it myself |
| 21:35.37 | JeffM2501 | we never set it up to do them |
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| 21:35.58 | JeffM2501 | I perosnaly don't think devC++ is capable of doing it the same way that windows does |
| 21:36.16 | TD-Linux | ++ |
| 21:36.18 | Guu | TD-Linux: are you 12? |
| 21:36.34 | TD-Linux | Guu: no |
| 21:36.36 | JeffM2501 | if you dread it why use it? |
| 21:36.41 | TD-Linux | to see if it works |
| 21:36.42 | JeffM2501 | use the command line system |
| 21:36.43 | JeffM2501 | or linux |
| 21:36.45 | JeffM2501 | they work fine |
| 21:37.19 | TD-Linux | I got the same linking error in VC++ |
| 21:37.23 | TD-Linux | but less |
| 21:37.29 | TD-Linux | it stopped after the first |
| 21:37.32 | JeffM2501 | what version of VC? |
| 21:37.37 | TD-Linux | 8 |
| 21:37.43 | TD-Linux | express |
| 21:37.45 | JeffM2501 | vc8 is unsuported at this time |
| 21:37.51 | JeffM2501 | and has been |
| 21:38.07 | JeffM2501 | I don't know why you waste your time trying it over and over, hoping it will magicaly work |
| 21:38.31 | TD-Linux | I'm trying two |
| 21:38.36 | TD-Linux | Masterbot and ShockwaveDeath |
| 21:38.50 | TD-Linux | both have the same errors |
| 21:39.18 | JeffM2501 | and the error is? |
| 21:40.08 | TD-Linux | there are 118 of them, I will give the first as the rest are similar |
| 21:40.44 | TD-Linux | unresolved external symbol __imp_?bz_BZDBItemExists@@YA_NPBD@Z referenced in function.... |
| 21:40.44 | *** part/#bzflag ToughShooter (n=ts@p54B03250.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:40.57 | TD-Linux | linker error |
| 21:40.58 | JeffM2501 | what bzfs.lib are you using? |
| 21:41.23 | TD-Linux | oh, it's an old one, that's why |
| 21:41.25 | TD-Linux | I bet |
| 21:41.27 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:41.29 | TD-Linux | 8/4/2005 |
| 21:41.32 | JeffM2501 | the lib must match your header |
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| 21:42.06 | TD-Linux | how do I compile the lib? |
| 21:42.17 | JeffM2501 | build bzfs |
| 21:42.18 | TD-Linux | can I do it separate from the rest? |
| 21:42.20 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 21:42.22 | TD-Linux | pl |
| 21:42.23 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 21:42.34 | JeffM2501 | or get it from a binary install of the server |
| 21:42.43 | Tegan | hi SportyGal |
| 21:42.50 | JeffM2501 | each windows install includes the header and lib for that version |
| 21:42.53 | JeffM2501 | use them together |
| 21:43.42 | TD-Linux | ok... I'm trying compiling |
| 21:44.04 | TD-Linux | I noticed Dev-C++ dosen't do any optimization at all by default |
| 21:44.42 | SportyGal | Tegan: hiya |
| 21:46.52 | JeffM2501 | devC++ won't build the lib |
| 21:47.47 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 21:47.48 | TD-Linux | I see |
| 21:47.50 | TD-Linux | one error |
| 21:48.06 | TD-Linux | 'cannot find -lares' |
| 21:48.14 | TD-Linux | I'll stick to the binaries |
| 21:48.15 | JeffM2501 | DEVC++ WILL NOT BUILD THE LIB |
| 21:48.46 | JeffM2501 | you can't realy mix stuff with VC and dec++ |
| 21:48.48 | JeffM2501 | difrent compilers |
| 21:50.17 | JeffM2501 | if you are doing pugin development from CVS, I woudl recomend ether linux or VC7.1 |
| 21:50.35 | JeffM2501 | if you need functions that are not in binarys |
| 21:50.49 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 21:52.31 | TD-Linux | vc8 worked :) |
| 21:52.36 | TD-Linux | with the binaries |
| 21:53.20 | TD-Linux | I'm hoping that the kernel will have SATA ATAPI support soon |
| 21:53.29 | JeffM2501 | kernel? |
| 21:53.33 | TD-Linux | yes |
| 21:53.34 | JeffM2501 | what kernel |
| 21:53.37 | TD-Linux | Linux |
| 21:53.50 | TD-Linux | so I don't have to mess with Windows at all |
| 21:53.52 | JeffM2501 | umm I'm running sata wtihout problems |
| 21:54.00 | TD-Linux | ATAPI? |
| 21:54.03 | TD-Linux | optical? |
| 21:54.24 | TD-Linux | I have a fancy Plextor SATA optical drive |
| 21:54.26 | JeffM2501 | I have ide, but I wasn't aware that it's a problem |
| 21:54.52 | TD-Linux | it works up until the kernel boots and tries to use its drivers instead of the BIOS |
| 21:55.34 | TD-Linux | '2.6.15 has SATA ATAPI support, although it is currently not in a working state' |
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| 21:56.15 | JeffM2501 | ATAPI devices are now supported on all controllers that support ATAPI (this is most of them), as of kernel 2.6.15. |
| 21:56.50 | JeffM2501 | what does your sata cdrom drive give you that ide dosn't? |
| 21:56.58 | TD-Linux | nothing |
| 21:57.01 | TD-Linux | except |
| 21:57.04 | TD-Linux | airflow |
| 21:57.09 | JeffM2501 | besides problems and extra cost |
| 21:57.12 | JeffM2501 | get a rounded cable |
| 21:57.14 | TD-Linux | we have a very cramped and small case |
| 21:57.14 | JeffM2501 | whopty do |
| 21:57.29 | TD-Linux | I agree, should have gone IDE |
| 21:57.55 | DTRemenak | JeffM2501: running away from The Man? |
| 21:57.59 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 21:58.04 | Chestal | TD-Linux: hmm, I don't quite understand what#s that supposed to mean. 2.6 presents SATA drives as SCSI drives, and startign with 2.6.15 it has ATA passthrough (for smart or hdparm) |
| 21:58.04 | JeffM2501 | "the man" is taking us all |
| 21:58.09 | JeffM2501 | paid company trip |
| 21:58.10 | DTRemenak | whoa, good deal |
| 21:58.17 | JeffM2501 | isn't the first time |
| 21:58.33 | JeffM2501 | "To celebrate our good fortune in 2005, you are invited to come along on a company trip to Cabo San Lucas. |
| 21:58.33 | JeffM2501 | " |
| 21:58.37 | Chestal | TD-Linux: so, SATA DVD-Writers do not work yet? |
| 21:58.40 | TD-Linux | well... if you look more, people have found that it dosen't work |
| 21:58.45 | TD-Linux | I can't install with mine |
| 21:59.00 | Chestal | I only have a SATA hard drive |
| 21:59.10 | TD-Linux | works up until you try to boot the kernel to run the live distro or the installer |
| 21:59.29 | TD-Linux | interestingly, the splash screen works fine |
| 21:59.37 | TD-Linux | except for Knoppix, which dosen't show the graphic |
| 21:59.45 | JeffM2501 | I had no problems with sata hard drives |
| 21:59.49 | JeffM2501 | none at all |
| 22:00.16 | TD-Linux | yup, only the opticals are problematic |
| 22:00.23 | TD-Linux | someone else told me that my motherboard is too new |
| 22:00.24 | Chestal | I had one with Windows because the install DVD doesn#t have a driver for it, so I had to install a floppy disc drive to feed it to it... |
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| 22:01.20 | JeffM2501 | bahhh.. supid pdcurses |
| 22:02.56 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/game/PlayerInfo.cxx: time is NOT a float, it must be cast to one |
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| 22:18.11 | Cruel_dog | hi |
| 22:18.23 | Cruel_dog | i need someone's help about group permissions |
| 22:24.58 | JeffM2501 | there should be an age limit to running a server :( |
| 22:25.36 | Pimpinella | and an minimum amount of patience |
| 22:25.46 | Pimpinella | you need it if you want to run one |
| 22:25.50 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:26.07 | JeffM2501 | one day maybe I can see my server idea a reality |
| 22:26.10 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 22:26.33 | Pimpinella | which idea? |
| 22:26.47 | JeffM2501 | where we have a group of "prefred" servers |
| 22:26.58 | JeffM2501 | that owners can ask to join |
| 22:27.11 | JeffM2501 | if they meet the requirements, they are added, and centrealy admined |
| 22:27.20 | JeffM2501 | and then listed on there own tab in the list |
| 22:27.55 | Pimpinella | heh... |
| 22:27.57 | Pimpinella | ;) |
| 22:28.31 | JeffM2501 | to be somewhat the "official" servers |
| 22:30.49 | spldart | that's a cool idea jeff |
| 22:31.03 | spldart | Not that I would be a prefered server hehe |
| 22:31.18 | JeffM2501 | you would not have to be |
| 22:31.25 | JeffM2501 | other servers would be listed on other tabs |
| 22:31.30 | JeffM2501 | sorted by game type and ping, etc... |
| 22:31.39 | spldart | I understand... just making a little joke |
| 22:31.46 | JeffM2501 | it would just be a way to show what servers meet some level of management |
| 22:31.56 | JeffM2501 | like they would all do global auth |
| 22:32.14 | JeffM2501 | and be admined by a group of admins chosen for admin skill |
| 22:32.20 | JeffM2501 | not just people who run the server |
| 22:33.00 | spldart | It's funny. I recently upgraded my ups's for my server, router, switch, modem and main workstation hehe |
| 22:33.01 | JeffM2501 | and all use the same ban list, etc... |
| 22:33.07 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 22:33.23 | spldart | just so these stupid power blinks wouldn't kill me all the time :( |
| 22:33.48 | spldart | sorry.. off topic... :( Anywho... good idea about the tabs |
| 22:34.03 | JeffM2501 | we'll have to see if it ever gets implemented |
| 22:34.05 | JeffM2501 | in this game |
| 22:34.12 | JeffM2501 | the server list is very poor |
| 22:34.14 | JeffM2501 | right now |
| 22:34.32 | JeffM2501 | the entire menu system is poor in my opinion |
| 22:34.35 | spldart | I'd say.. rudimentary |
| 22:34.36 | JeffM2501 | but what does that mater |
| 22:34.42 | JeffM2501 | it was find in 93 |
| 22:34.45 | JeffM2501 | fine |
| 22:34.56 | JeffM2501 | now my cell phone has a better interface |
| 22:35.01 | spldart | lol |
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| 22:40.53 | spldart | ~weather ksgr |
| 22:41.19 | spldart | I'm on my motorcycle... outty 500 to beat the storms |
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| 23:36.14 | spldart | question...... http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/problem.htm |
| 23:40.48 | Pimpinella | was there already a game menu in 93? |
| 23:41.03 | Pimpinella | always thought it came much later |
| 23:41.33 | spldart | Wow.. game menu is still topic of conversation one rainshower and 85mph down southwest freeway later :-0 |
| 23:41.37 | spldart | hehe |
| 23:42.55 | Pimpinella | about your question, do you use -publicaddr ? |
| 23:43.44 | spldart | Yes... -publicaddr spldart.bakadigital.com |
| 23:43.54 | Pimpinella | there you go |
| 23:44.10 | spldart | It's grabbing info from both servers? |
| 23:44.48 | spldart | what should I change? |
| 23:45.02 | Pimpinella | -publicaddr spldart.bakadigital.com:5155 |
| 23:45.23 | Pimpinella | it's clearly a bug though |
| 23:45.24 | spldart | so change 2.1 to :5155 and leave 2.0.x wihout: |
| 23:45.50 | blast007 | personally, it's silly that you have to specify the port on the publicaddr :) |
| 23:45.50 | spldart | Maybe that is why I'm popping in and out of the serverlist |
| 23:46.16 | spldart | woohooo.. I've discovered a bug by running the old and new bzfs. :) |
| 23:46.22 | spldart | lemme fix it though |
| 23:46.53 | Pimpinella | yeah. with no port defined it's implicitly extended to 5154, the server shouldn't even get listed though since the info isn't consistent |
| 23:47.44 | blast007 | well, acctually, it would get listed |
| 23:47.52 | blast007 | the value of -p isn't sent to the list |
| 23:47.57 | Pimpinella | it shouldn't |
| 23:48.12 | blast007 | if there is a server running on port 5154, it will allow it, even if the server that is adding is on port 5155 |
| 23:48.14 | Pimpinella | -publicaddr is sent too |
| 23:48.31 | blast007 | publicaddr is all that is send with regard to port, iirc |
| 23:48.51 | Pimpinella | ah yeah. |
| 23:49.27 | spldart | K... 2.0.x is now -publicaddr spldart.bakadigital.com and 2.1.x is now -publicaddr spldart.bakadigital.com:5155 |
| 23:49.31 | *** part/#bzflag RPG_ (n=G-bus@c-24-15-87-171.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 23:50.08 | Pimpinella | on the other hand it might just be caused by a b0rked OS ;) |
| 23:50.26 | spldart | Linux? Borked??? |
| 23:50.34 | spldart | LOL |
| 23:50.42 | spldart | I ain' |
| 23:50.48 | spldart | t goin back to windoze |
| 23:50.49 | Pimpinella | IE on linux? |
| 23:51.02 | spldart | My bzfs's I mean... |
| 23:51.21 | spldart | mozilla firefox would look at the silly list server description with the same squinty eye |
| 23:51.35 | spldart | o_0 |
| 23:51.47 | Pimpinella | dunno, using khtml here |
| 23:52.08 | spldart | You'll have to pardon my I'm going back and forth between my dually dual boot workstation and my debian server |
| 23:52.22 | spldart | But they play nice |
| 23:52.34 | Pimpinella | i'll forgive you for now ;) |
| 23:52.37 | spldart | LOL |
| 23:52.46 | spldart | Don't make me reboot to linux!!! |
| 23:52.51 | *** join/#bzflag BenUrban (n=benurban@68.49.10.243) |
| 23:55.59 | spldart | BTW as a slight OT I don't know how popular and how many may already no about explore2fs but I highly recommend it.. Very cool for us Win/Lin users. |
