| 00:01.00 | JBdiGriz | JeffM2501: Are you taking something to improve your patience/spelling? |
| 00:01.11 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 00:01.19 | JeffM2501 | I type prety bad here |
| 00:02.10 | JBdiGriz | You spent about 20 minutes interacting, and your spelling wasn't completely atrocious. |
| 00:02.20 | JeffM2501 | proofreading |
| 00:02.42 | JBdiGriz | and you didn't mute/kick the guy either. |
| 00:02.51 | JeffM2501 | at home on the mac, I have xchat set to hilight misspellings ether |
| 00:02.58 | JeffM2501 | there was no reason to do so on him |
| 00:03.06 | JeffM2501 | tho "i c" gets anoying |
| 00:03.24 | JBdiGriz | Since when has a reason been a prerequisite? |
| 00:04.09 | brlcad | so.. i should call if I need help with something.. excellent |
| 00:04.19 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 00:04.54 | JeffM2501 | the number of incednets of AOL munckins in a day is inversly porportional to the amount of reason. |
| 00:05.41 | JBdiGriz | So there haven't been enough AOL munchkins today to push you over the limit. |
| 00:05.52 | JeffM2501 | it's been a prety good month yes |
| 00:06.08 | JeffM2501 | I think the comunit as a whole is maturing ever so slightly |
| 00:06.12 | JeffM2501 | comunity |
| 00:06.25 | brlcad | :) |
| 00:06.48 | JBdiGriz | Just wait until May, when school gets out. I don't think the community is changing that much. |
| 00:07.26 | JeffM2501 | we had the winter holliday seasonal work stopage recently, it peaked up then but wasn't horible |
| 00:07.32 | JeffM2501 | other then the molez/db thing |
| 00:07.53 | JeffM2501 | and I didn't even quit in a huff this time :) |
| 00:15.18 | JeffM2501 | one of these days I need to find out why the png reader won't work on GPx01 :( |
| 00:16.05 | trepan | still using devil? |
| 00:16.13 | JeffM2501 | yes and no |
| 00:16.22 | JeffM2501 | devil is an option |
| 00:16.36 | JeffM2501 | but there is also a libpng option |
| 00:16.53 | JeffM2501 | windows uses devil still |
| 00:17.11 | JeffM2501 | but linux and mac should use libpng |
| 00:17.13 | trepan | next big commit should give bz SDL_image, some PNGs still don't load with bz's code... |
| 00:20.25 | JeffM2501 | well that makes sense |
| 00:20.36 | JeffM2501 | our png code kinda sucks |
| 00:20.56 | JeffM2501 | gp should probably just use sdl image too |
| 00:21.04 | JeffM2501 | it's allready got sdl sound as well |
| 00:21.39 | JeffM2501 | you making it use sdl image for all things? |
| 00:21.44 | JeffM2501 | or only if its there in the config? |
| 00:21.46 | trepan | devil do GL compression format conversion? dxt[135], 3dc, etc... ? |
| 00:21.52 | JeffM2501 | devil can yeah |
| 00:22.00 | JeffM2501 | IIRC |
| 00:22.03 | trepan | JeffM2501: only if SDL_image get picked up by ./configure |
| 00:22.09 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 00:22.20 | JeffM2501 | cus windows don't gots no sdl |
| 00:22.31 | JeffM2501 | devil has a lot of cool features |
| 00:22.37 | trepan | could just use that lib separately |
| 00:22.39 | JeffM2501 | mostly reading of pds files :0 |
| 00:22.41 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 00:22.47 | JeffM2501 | psd even |
| 00:23.04 | JeffM2501 | not real usefull for end users |
| 00:23.10 | JeffM2501 | but realy handy when working on textures |
| 00:23.14 | JeffM2501 | to not have to "save as" |
| 00:23.20 | JeffM2501 | to see it in game |
| 00:25.05 | trepan | I should probably limit SDL_image to only load PNGs, consistency |
| 00:25.48 | issus | hi |
| 00:26.02 | trepan | it's got the big ones, jpg, gif, bmp, png, pcx, etc... |
| 00:26.04 | blast007 | "Downloading grass.bmp, 5MB" |
| 00:26.30 | blast007 | issus: hello |
| 00:26.58 | trepan | some of my 2048x2048 diffuse+normal/height maps are getting up there in size :) |
| 00:27.07 | blast007 | hehe |
| 00:27.11 | issus | i want to report a match: easy kill:5 TLZ:5 finisched about 2 hours before |
| 00:27.34 | issus | i have some difficulties to join as sussi |
| 00:27.38 | issus | dunno why |
| 00:27.57 | trepan | sry, RGBgloss + normal/height :) |
| 00:28.19 | blast007 | issus: someone is using sussi right now |
| 00:29.04 | blast007 | ah, you're using it :) |
| 00:29.17 | issus | omg |
| 00:30.00 | issus | could be that i dont disconnect right |
| 00:30.10 | blast007 | you can always ghost it off |
| 00:30.36 | blast007 | /msg nickserv ghost <dead username> <password> |
| 00:31.08 | issus | ah thx |
| 00:31.13 | blast007 | yup |
| 00:31.18 | brlcad | wasn't interlacing the main thing that bz's png code couldn't grok? |
| 00:31.48 | JeffM2501 | why does it use it's own code? |
| 00:32.30 | brlcad | minimize external dependencies, makes it a pain in the ass the distribute/compile cross-platform consistently |
| 00:32.32 | trepan | brlcad: yup, but it fails on some non-interlaced as well |
| 00:32.51 | brlcad | could suck in SDL_image in it's entirety, not that big at all iirc |
| 00:32.55 | JeffM2501 | too bad png reading isn't part of like glu |
| 00:33.00 | brlcad | nor is libpng for that matter |
| 00:33.27 | JeffM2501 | devil :) |
| 00:33.29 | trepan | libpng's interface sucks |
| 00:33.33 | JeffM2501 | devil is your god ;) |
| 00:33.44 | JeffM2501 | yes libpng's does |
| 00:33.47 | brlcad | meh, sucks but works |
| 00:33.55 | brlcad | not too complicated, just annoying |
| 00:34.02 | trepan | SDL_image's doesn't suck, and works |
| 00:34.05 | JeffM2501 | ilut_bindImage (some fle name) |
| 00:34.08 | trepan | devil's as well |
| 00:34.28 | brlcad | is SDL_image stand-alone or does it have deps? (like libpng, libjpeg, etc) |
| 00:34.30 | JeffM2501 | you had problems building devil tho right? |
| 00:34.37 | trepan | it has deps |
| 00:35.26 | trepan | http://trepan.homelinux.net/SDL_image.deps |
| 00:35.41 | trepan | heh, libasound |
| 00:36.20 | trepan | (that's debian/testing amd64 build, might have other deps for full builds, dunno) |
| 00:36.30 | JeffM2501 | I love how bzflag's png reader needs winsock :) |
| 00:36.45 | brlcad | asound, for images with a jingle? :) |
| 00:37.25 | trepan | heh, what's the winsock for? Pack.h is listed |
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| 00:39.01 | JeffM2501 | the network byte order functions on windows are in winsock |
| 00:39.27 | brlcad | would anyone have extreme heartburn if I moved all bz's external codes into one directory? |
| 00:39.55 | brlcad | i.e. zlib, c-ares, libregex, .. |
| 00:40.12 | brlcad | makes them easier to ignore when not needed |
| 00:40.24 | brlcad | visually at least |
| 00:40.37 | lan56 | would they be in subdirectories? |
| 00:40.41 | brlcad | yes |
| 00:40.47 | trepan | na, shove all the files into one |
| 00:40.52 | trepan | do crazy things with Makefiles |
| 00:40.53 | brlcad | heh |
| 00:40.54 | lan56 | hah |
| 00:41.01 | lan56 | external_libs.cpp |
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| 00:41.20 | lan56 | I am fine with that, as for me |
| 00:41.38 | lan56 | I mean the external libs directory thing |
| 00:41.54 | brlcad | cat *.c | gcc -c external.o - |
| 00:42.31 | trepan | brlcad: shouldn't hit any source files, no? |
| 00:42.44 | brlcad | what do you mena? |
| 00:43.00 | trepan | *.cxx and *.h files, no conflicts coming down the pipe |
| 00:43.14 | trepan | i've got 200K+ diff going here... |
| 00:43.18 | trepan | + new files |
| 00:43.26 | brlcad | oh, i'm in no rush, I can wait |
| 00:43.38 | brlcad | i meant making a dir like src/other or src/external |
| 00:43.47 | brlcad | src/other/libregex |
| 00:43.49 | trepan | na, shouldn't be a problem as long as it doesn't hit any 2.0.5 source files |
| 00:44.02 | brlcad | i wouldn't touch 2.0 |
| 00:44.08 | brlcad | no sense breaking it |
| 00:44.19 | trepan | then it's a non-issue :) |
| 00:47.12 | brlcad | intend on gutting configure.ac soon too |
| 00:47.21 | brlcad | it's freaking annoyingly messy in there |
| 00:47.59 | brlcad | might as well add some glitz while i'm at it |
| 00:48.48 | brlcad | wow, second firefly season |
| 00:48.54 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/configure.ac: add SDL_image check |
| 00:48.55 | trepan | add that too, wouldja? |
| 00:49.27 | trepan | ;-) |
| 00:49.45 | brlcad | heh |
| 00:50.55 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/Makefile.am: naming consistency |
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| 01:32.55 | orchid | ~bzfquery bzgirl.bzflag.bz:2000 |
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| 02:12.34 | a-delusion | L4M3R has updated playhistory tracker and also has a new "fair team CTF" plugin operating well |
| 02:13.19 | a-delusion | playhistory knows which weapon you use on your rampage, and gives appropriate messages |
| 02:13.42 | a-delusion | fair ctf enables flag carrying only when teams are fair |
| 02:14.02 | PuMpErNiCkLe | yeah, it threatened to kick me because a guy left the other team o_O |
| 02:14.36 | a-delusion | he's got both working very well now |
| 02:14.44 | PuMpErNiCkLe | spiffy :) |
| 02:15.14 | a-delusion | he has four more plugins in his list |
| 02:15.21 | a-delusion | to do |
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| 02:54.46 | PuMpErNiCkLe | stfu ibot :o |
| 02:55.34 | trepan | JeffM2501: what's with the ibot greeting? |
| 02:55.42 | JeffM2501 | no love for the bot? |
| 02:55.58 | JeffM2501 | it makes as much sense as any others :) |
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| 02:57.46 | trepan | JeffM2501: can't argue with preteen logic I guess ;) |
| 02:58.42 | JeffM2501 | fearless added it as a feature, and turned it on here... so it must be very important to the project |
| 02:58.59 | JeffM2501 | and I want to help the project allong as MUCH as possible right? |
| 02:59.44 | JeffM2501 | and I'm bbqing on the internet |
| 02:59.52 | JeffM2501 | wireless networks are cool |
| 03:02.47 | TimRiker | fearless added what as a feature? |
| 03:03.08 | TimRiker | and does that make me fearless? |
| 03:03.09 | JeffM2501 | on join announcements to ibot |
| 03:03.17 | JeffM2501 | yes :) |
| 03:03.20 | JeffM2501 | fearless leader |
| 03:03.23 | JeffM2501 | and all that |
| 03:03.56 | TimRiker | ah. well I added s/// support but that's off here. I can turn onjoin off too. but them it might be offjoin? hmm. |
| 03:04.51 | JeffM2501 | mmmmm burning cow smell |
| 03:05.10 | lan56 | sounds...pleasant :) |
| 03:05.36 | lan56 | I hope it isn't alive and you meant hamburgers :) |
| 03:05.40 | TimRiker | I really should get the other md5 code working soon. =/ |
| 03:06.22 | JeffM2501 | coulda shoulda woulda |
| 03:06.26 | TimRiker | how do people feel about a 2.0.x release lately? How's the warping code shaping up? |
| 03:07.49 | TimRiker | well lots of replies there... =) Guess I'll get the kids to bed. back in a while. |
| 03:08.16 | lan56 | well they feel fine I guess |
| 03:08.33 | JeffM2501 | who was working on it? |
| 03:10.26 | trepan | brlcad, changing unsticking code from frame based to time based iirc |
| 03:12.03 | trepan | or maybe it was the 'pause during screenshot' thang |
| 03:32.21 | TimRiker | trepan: a little of both. |
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| 05:21.23 | brlcad | unsticking code is reported to not work so i need to check/fix or revert (should be a simple matter of a != where a == is needed) |
| 05:28.08 | brlcad | warping is probably "good enough" for now as the major "arbitrary" abuse is prevented |
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| 08:12.50 | LePoulpe303 | hi all |
| 08:12.56 | lan56 | bonjour |
| 08:16.00 | LePoulpe303 | salut lan56 |
| 08:16.45 | lan56 | salut |
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| 12:18.53 | kristalino | hi |
| 12:19.00 | kristalino | i got a problem on a bzflag server |
| 12:19.07 | kristalino | i set -mp 12 |
| 12:19.21 | kristalino | and i can only have 8 players max |
| 12:19.24 | kristalino | why ? |
| 12:21.09 | kristalino | -mp {count|[rogue],[red],[green],[blue],[purple],[observer]} |
| 12:21.35 | kristalino | is -mp {5,5,5,5,5} correct ? |
| 12:22.04 | kristalino | bad argument "5 |
| 12:22.15 | kristalino | anyone ? |
| 12:26.45 | sniperyyd | nope |
| 12:26.47 | sniperyyd | not correct |
| 12:27.01 | sniperyyd | its -mp 5,5,5,5,5 |
| 12:27.19 | sniperyyd | oh nope |
| 12:27.36 | sniperyyd | its -mp 5,5,5,5,5,5 |
| 12:30.18 | kristalino | sniperyyd, very thank you :) |
| 12:31.39 | sniperyyd | :) |
| 12:31.41 | sniperyyd | np |
| 12:32.00 | sniperyyd | tell me if you expect problems |
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| 12:56.37 | issus | hi |
| 12:57.14 | issus | was bz tested for dynamically bugs? |
| 12:58.10 | kristalino | sniperyyd, it fixes the problem, thanks :) Btw, what means -mp 12 (without other commas) ? |
| 13:09.21 | sniperyyd | kristalino: 12 players allowed |
| 13:09.29 | sniperyyd | kristalino: doesnt matter what team |
| 13:09.29 | sniperyyd | :0p |
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| 13:17.20 | sniperyyd | hiya occhi blu |
| 13:21.02 | kristalino | sniperyyd, it seems not, when i do -mp 12, i can't have more than 8 players (2 by team) |
| 13:21.43 | sniperyyd | kristalino: umm. i were knowing so... if not, ask trepan or any developer |
| 13:22.19 | kristalino | i tried -mp 0,8,8,0,0,0 and i can't have more than 3 players by team (green and red) |
| 13:22.26 | sniperyyd | k |
| 13:22.27 | sniperyyd | umm |
| 13:22.27 | sniperyyd | ok |
| 13:22.31 | sniperyyd | ask developers |
| 13:22.33 | kristalino | i don't understand how does it works ... |
| 13:22.34 | sniperyyd | must go now |
| 13:22.35 | sniperyyd | bye |
| 13:22.35 | kristalino | ok :) |
| 13:22.38 | kristalino | byt |
| 13:22.40 | kristalino | bye |
| 13:37.39 | menotume | kristalino: your "-mp 0,8,8,0,0,0" is correct. Is it possible that you have another -mp somewhere ? |
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| 14:22.27 | kristalino | menotume, really i only have -mp 0,8,8,0,0,0 |
| 14:22.32 | kristalino | i don't understand ... |
| 14:22.37 | kristalino | bbl |
| 14:26.35 | TheRedBaron | I have an Odd problem with bzflag 2.0.4 on windows 2000 |
| 14:26.49 | TheRedBaron | for quite a while, I had bzflag 2.0.2 and used it |
| 14:27.01 | TheRedBaron | finally I decided to upgrade it yesterday, |
| 14:27.25 | TheRedBaron | I uninstalled 2.0.2 and installed 2.0.4 |
| 14:27.34 | TheRedBaron | Everything was looking dandy |
| 14:27.41 | TheRedBaron | until I decided to join a server |
| 14:28.13 | TheRedBaron | bzflag would pull up the list server just fine, but i could not join a single server, except badgerkings |
| 14:28.34 | TheRedBaron | any other server I tried, I got the message "server not found" |
| 14:28.56 | TheRedBaron | however, another computer, within the same network, running 2.0.4 was working flawlessly |
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| 14:31.11 | TheRedBaron | I downloaded 2.0.5b5, no luck |
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| 14:35.45 | Chestal | TheRedBaron: can you try to manually resolve the hostname and enter the IP as server in bz? |
| 14:39.38 | TheRedBaron | as in manually fill in the server field and Port field, as if joining a private server? |
| 14:39.41 | TheRedBaron | if so, that didn't work either |
| 14:40.20 | Chestal | no. Choose a server which doesnt work. Say dub.bzlag.org 5154 |
| 14:40.38 | Chestal | then try to enter its IP address instead (217.20.115.182) |
| 14:41.14 | TheRedBaron | i shall try that |
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| 15:52.16 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03bthansen 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/nagware/nagware.cpp: Fix derefencing null pointer when no kick message |
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| 16:36.47 | Der_Bachelor | hi alL! |
| 16:37.34 | spldart | Allo |
| 16:37.53 | TheRedBaron | der_bachelor: you know gu has its own channel? |
| 16:38.01 | TheRedBaron | #guleague |
| 16:38.15 | Der_Bachelor | k, thx |
| 16:38.23 | TheRedBaron | no problem |
| 16:38.34 | TheRedBaron | just thought i'd let you know |
| 16:38.51 | Der_Bachelor | my first time in bzflag chan :D ty |
| 16:39.14 | Der_Bachelor | gimme voice ! |
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| 17:27.21 | spldart | List server??? |
| 17:30.49 | spldart | NM it's back |
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| 17:59.15 | JBdiGriz | It never rains in sunny southern California. |
| 17:59.33 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 17:59.35 | JeffM2501 | who sung that? |
| 18:00.29 | JBdiGriz | time to drag out the google for lyrics |
| 18:00.51 | JeffM2501 | I seem to recall it from an old WB cartoon |
| 18:03.50 | JBdiGriz | Albert Hammond wrote the lyrics, but I'm still searching for the album |
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| 18:07.40 | JBdiGriz | It seems he also recorded it, and a "Sounds of Gardena, Volume 2" album is available on ITMS. |
| 18:08.00 | JBdiGriz | I'm surprised there are that many interesting sounds in Gardena. |
| 18:09.07 | JeffM2501 | heh |
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| 18:26.27 | dcat | i thought it was "Rainy Days & Mondays" |
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| 18:52.38 | ToughShooter | I installed glew via ports and put /opt/local/include/GL into C_INCLUDE_PATH but BZFlag's configure still doesn't detect that - how can I fix that? |
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| 18:55.54 | ToughShooter | Part of config.log about glew: http://pastebin.com/524361 |
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| 18:57.40 | ToughShooter | Tupone: Can you help? |
| 18:58.13 | Tupone | I don't know what is . And never compiled that :( |
| 18:58.15 | trepan | ToughShooter: isn't setup for mac yet... talk to brlcad =) |
| 18:59.01 | ToughShooter | Oh, I didn't saw an OS restriction in code :o |
| 18:59.18 | JeffM2501 | there probably ins't one |
| 18:59.29 | JeffM2501 | but apple chose to implement OpenGL difrently |
| 18:59.35 | JeffM2501 | so it may just not be set up for mac |
| 19:00.08 | JeffM2501 | apple dos't use he /gl dir IIRC |
| 19:00.53 | JeffM2501 | they use /agl |
| 19:01.07 | ToughShooter | I've installed glew via ports, which has put "glew.h" into /opt/local/include/GL but nm |
| 19:01.11 | JeffM2501 | so for any code that assumes /gl, to make it work on the mac, you have to #def it all around |
| 19:01.39 | JeffM2501 | that log shows it can't find gl/glew.h |
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| 19:23.30 | spldart | Server list keeps getting messed up :( |
| 19:24.16 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/ (3 files in 2 dirs): |
| 19:24.16 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: - always display the Anisotropic menu entry (possibly as Unavailable) |
| 19:24.18 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: - initialize the GLEW library |
| 19:24.26 | Tupone | spldart: you have a 2.1 server? please update it |
| 19:25.13 | spldart | no.... I get no list on 2.0 2.1 or the link http://my.bzflag.org/serverlist.php periodically through the day today |
| 19:25.32 | spldart | but I'll update 2.1 when I get home if you wish |
| 19:25.34 | Tupone | my question is unrelated |
| 19:25.49 | spldart | sorry |
| 19:25.53 | Tupone | :) |
| 19:26.08 | ToughShooter | umm, that link shows a wiered serverlist for me |
| 19:26.10 | spldart | 2.1 was last cvs up -dP and built yesterday morning |
| 19:26.29 | spldart | that link and my bzadmin's are showing nada |
| 19:26.37 | Tupone | At this stage I don't change version even if I should |
| 19:26.40 | spldart | something new for today tupone? |
| 19:26.49 | spldart | bzfs? |
| 19:27.01 | Tupone | well, I think I remove something in bzfs again |
| 19:27.17 | JeffM2501 | I'm not sure why anyone other then a dev would even run a 2.1 at this state |
| 19:27.28 | spldart | :( |
| 19:27.32 | Tupone | related to flag grab. But I need a lot of testing |
| 19:27.35 | ToughShooter | spldart: you're not alone, the list in v2_0branch is broken now for me, too |
| 19:27.51 | spldart | thanks for the confirm TS |
| 19:28.00 | spldart | Sorry you don't understand why Jeff |
| 19:28.05 | JeffM2501 | spldart, it's not like there are 2.1 binarys |
| 19:28.11 | ToughShooter | it looks like my.bzflag.org has heavy load and that affects bzls |
| 19:28.29 | spldart | I'll be availabe as soon as I get home to do a update and lots of testing with you on bzfs about 5 to 6 pm Tupone |
| 19:28.30 | JeffM2501 | the list server IS my.bzflag.org |
| 19:28.40 | JeffM2501 | it's just a php page on the same server |
| 19:28.51 | JeffM2501 | it also shares bandwith with secretplace |
| 19:29.03 | spldart | Don't mind if you break me and i have to re up to fix or anything ;) |
| 19:29.06 | spldart | be glad to help |
| 19:29.08 | Tupone | 5 to 6 pm? I'm waking up I suppose, depends on you location |
| 19:29.16 | spldart | Central |
| 19:29.28 | spldart | I could be later if conveniant |
| 19:29.33 | Tupone | sleeping then, about 3-4 am |
| 19:29.36 | ToughShooter | JeffM2501: I considered the list server to be an application running on my.bzflag.org , not bzls to be a whole "hardware server" ;) |
| 19:29.36 | spldart | and don't mind build over and over |
| 19:29.47 | JeffM2501 | it's not really an app tho |
| 19:29.54 | JeffM2501 | it's a web page |
| 19:30.00 | JeffM2501 | so it's tied to the same loads as the web server |
| 19:30.15 | spldart | >Tupone: IC :( |
| 19:30.20 | JeffM2501 | it's running in the same apachee |
| 19:30.37 | spldart | to bad wasn't yesteday... I was home all day cuz wife had to go into hospital to get tests run |
| 19:30.44 | JeffM2501 | needs to get moved one day too |
| 19:31.00 | Tupone | I think we need to remove some writing to mysql, if we can. just using session cookies could help |
| 19:31.23 | Tupone | writing to file system could be faster I suppose |
| 19:31.34 | JeffM2501 | bzflag and bzfs support cookies? |
| 19:31.40 | brad2901 | Tupone: has the 2.1 protocol changed? |
| 19:31.51 | Tupone | a little, from yesterday |
| 19:32.14 | spldart | I'll definitely update in 4 hours then |
| 19:32.26 | Tupone | JeffM2501: do not support cookie, but we can use the same software to write info, the same that is used to memorize session info |
| 19:32.30 | brad2901 | ah ok |
| 19:32.42 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 19:32.50 | JeffM2501 | like just save the session in ram on the server? |
| 19:32.56 | JeffM2501 | instead of puting in the db? |
| 19:33.09 | JeffM2501 | and you thik File I/O is the problem? |
| 19:33.12 | Tupone | I meant to hard disk, but could be ram too |
| 19:33.13 | JeffM2501 | not connections and bandwith? |
| 19:33.24 | spldart | Doesn't hurt anything me running a 2.1 does it JeffM? |
| 19:33.34 | JeffM2501 | spldart, no why would it? |
| 19:33.34 | Tupone | I remember we need to restart mysql sometime, I have not done myself that |
| 19:33.46 | ToughShooter | bah, sourceforge is so slow the whole day :/ |
| 19:33.54 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, from what I've seen its sessions on apache |
| 19:33.58 | JeffM2501 | not sql |
| 19:34.09 | JeffM2501 | tho if we seperate the forums from the login |
| 19:34.22 | JeffM2501 | then there wold be less writes to one sql server |
| 19:34.34 | spldart | Then the fact that I can help the dev's by running a test bzfs on hardware different than theirs up near 24/7 and the fact that I get a kick out of it both make me happy. What more reason should I need ;-p |
| 19:34.35 | Tupone | I thought about using the server for reading only |
| 19:34.45 | Tupone | server -> mysql |
| 19:34.56 | JeffM2501 | spldart, what ever floats your boat man |
| 19:35.03 | JeffM2501 | you don't need my aproval |
| 19:35.11 | JeffM2501 | I'm just a dude :) |
| 19:35.25 | spldart | hehe |
| 19:35.25 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, a read only system for logins would be good yea, not tied to the froums |
| 19:35.29 | spldart | Iz kew |
| 19:35.41 | trepan | JeffM2501: know which cards wouldn't support at least 4 for GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS ? |
| 19:35.55 | Tupone | I think JeffM2501 was commenting about me not changing bzfs version often, so I should not care about other server |
| 19:36.07 | JeffM2501 | probalby the FX series |
| 19:36.12 | spldart | ah |
| 19:36.17 | JeffM2501 | Tupone, no no |
| 19:36.22 | Tupone | :/ |
| 19:36.25 | trepan | GF3 has 4 |
| 19:36.37 | JeffM2501 | mostly I was commenting on that if you run dev, then expect to update a lot :) |
| 19:36.43 | JeffM2501 | trepan, oh yeah, I have 12 :) |
| 19:36.48 | JeffM2501 | or 16 |
| 19:36.50 | JeffM2501 | maybe |
| 19:36.53 | Tupone | linked then :) |
| 19:36.53 | JeffM2501 | I dono anymore |
| 19:37.18 | trepan | JeffM2501: you probably have 4 for GL_MAX_TEXTURE_UNITS |
| 19:37.24 | JeffM2501 | but if people are runing servers then it may be good to bump the proto every so often |
| 19:37.29 | trepan | that's the number for the fixed pipeline |
| 19:37.36 | JeffM2501 | tho that makes us less |
| 19:37.38 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 19:37.50 | spldart | since someone showed me cvs up -dP and ./configure --disable-client I update all the time :) |
| 19:37.54 | JeffM2501 | trepan, I have started not caring about hardware these days :) |
| 19:38.07 | JeffM2501 | spldart, you could probalby even automate it with a script |
| 19:38.27 | spldart | I think you or another has already mentioned that :) |
| 19:38.38 | spldart | I may have to |
| 19:38.41 | JeffM2501 | twern't I |
| 19:38.48 | JeffM2501 | since I have no clue how to autmate said thing :0 |
| 19:38.54 | JeffM2501 | me dumb in leenox |
| 19:39.10 | spldart | Or maybe find a way to remote the linux terminal 'screens' from work |
| 19:39.23 | JeffM2501 | install ssh |
| 19:39.29 | spldart | I'm finally going to be able to dual boot my work box :) |
| 19:39.33 | spldart | maybe a week |
| 19:39.34 | JeffM2501 | mostly I'm just an opinionated basterd |
| 19:39.43 | JeffM2501 | there are ssh clients for windows |
| 19:39.48 | JeffM2501 | I use them every day |
| 19:39.51 | spldart | I'll look into that |
| 19:39.52 | Tupone | spldart: use a new client too, change to bzfs are related to change to bzflag :) |
| 19:40.01 | spldart | okies |
| 19:40.55 | spldart | the reason disable client is important on my server is cuz it's slow.... But my client machine is dually with raid 0 so it can build the whole thing in a couple few minutes |
| 19:42.01 | JeffM2501 | spldart, you can just use putty for a simple ssh client |
| 19:42.58 | JeffM2501 | http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ |
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| 19:51.48 | spldart | putty is plenty secure? |
| 19:52.00 | spldart | ssh I mean |
| 19:52.40 | PuMpErNiCkLe | yeah |
| 19:52.42 | JBdiGriz | I've watched ssh traffic for a while, and I haven't heard of any exploits. |
| 19:53.00 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Unless you're being wiretapped, and they get the *entire* thing, I think... |
| 19:53.20 | JBdiGriz | Do you have a reference for that? |
| 19:53.41 | orange | yes, I'd be interested to see that as well... haven't heard of it |
| 19:54.03 | spldart | not tapped |
| 19:54.06 | spldart | hehehe |
| 19:54.12 | spldart | click.....clickclick |
| 19:54.20 | PuMpErNiCkLe | If they can see the entire initiliazation of the transfer, they might as well be the machine at the other end, no? |
| 19:54.26 | PuMpErNiCkLe | Unless I'm missing something. |
| 19:54.34 | JBdiGriz | I have to assume that I'm always tapped. The ISP gets all of the traffic. |
| 19:55.04 | JBdiGriz | No, because there is a set of keys at either end which are used to initialize the transfers. |
| 19:57.40 | spldart | So putty on the Win machine but what should I run on Debian terminal? |
| 19:58.09 | orange | openssh |
| 19:58.49 | spldart | thanks |
| 19:59.50 | PuMpErNiCkLe | JBdiGriz: Even for first-time communication? |
| 20:00.25 | JBdiGriz | Have you tried first time communication over ssh? What do you think that warning message means? |
| 20:00.27 | *** part/#bzflag Der_Bachelor (n=Zarquon@i577B626C.versanet.de) |
| 20:00.55 | spldart | I was considering directing all my bzfs logs into a private directory that I host on Apache so I can check up on them from anywhere but this may take that problem out too :) |
| 20:00.58 | PuMpErNiCkLe | That was so long ago I forgot how it went. ^^ |
| 20:01.28 | PuMpErNiCkLe | (I only use it in my LAN, so it wasn't an issue, anyway.) |
| 20:01.40 | spldart | the encryption warning? |
| 20:02.29 | bryjen | something along the lines of "i don't know this machine, here's it's host key... do you?" |
| 20:02.29 | JBdiGriz | It's a warning that you have never connected to this machine before, so it will use a standard key. If it's over an insecure connection, you might want to supply a key before proceeding. |
| 20:04.10 | spldart | ah |
| 20:10.53 | spldart | :( |
| 20:11.14 | spldart | woop... just came up for me |
| 20:11.54 | spldart | My got ^that^ line quoted in the http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz could be embarrasing |
| 20:14.06 | brad2901 | ~bzflist |
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| 20:23.06 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/mediafile/MediaFile.cxx: added SDL_image support |
| 20:25.39 | spldart | I don't see a super recent change in the bzfs dir... last change atupone 45 hours ago... I got that one already |
| 20:28.26 | spldart | NM |
| 20:28.40 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/mediafile/MediaFile.cxx: move the FileManager.h include |
| 20:36.27 | Tupone | 45 hours? I changed bzflag 13 hours ago |
| 20:36.49 | Birdie | nidhoggr his server not working well? |
| 20:36.52 | Birdie | global is a pain:( |
| 20:37.22 | Tupone | hi Birdie |
| 20:37.29 | Birdie | hey tupone |
| 20:37.32 | spldart | that's why I through up teh NeverMind :) |
| 20:37.34 | spldart | my bad |
| 20:37.52 | Tupone | Birdie: going to Lux pretty soon |
| 20:38.06 | Birdie | luxemburg the country or the part in belgium? |
| 20:38.10 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03trepan 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/mediafile/MediaFile.cxx: cleanup the debugs |
| 20:38.21 | Tupone | capellen |
| 20:38.28 | Birdie | ooh i know where that is |
| 20:38.32 | Birdie | its "kapellen":) |
| 20:38.36 | Tupone | perhaps |
| 20:38.43 | Tupone | :) |
| 20:38.52 | Birdie | you studied some great flemish allready? |
| 20:38.53 | Tupone | should be near lux |
| 20:39.12 | Tupone | well, I think I can survive with some english talk |
| 20:39.45 | Tupone | I wonder if gina is near that :/ |
| 20:40.04 | Birdie | hmm i know where gina is |
| 20:40.06 | Birdie | its not that far |
| 20:40.20 | Birdie | my guess is 1.5hour of train |
| 20:40.35 | Tupone | She was here yesterday, but no talks |
| 20:41.13 | Birdie | ehm kapellen is not near lux btw |
| 20:41.27 | Birdie | and if its the kapellen i think off, its much closer to gina than i thought |
| 20:41.40 | Tupone | hmm, then is capellen, I googled it |
| 20:42.00 | Tupone | french name :) |
| 20:42.13 | Birdie | oh |
| 20:42.13 | Birdie | hmm |
| 20:42.29 | ToughShooter | kapellen sounds so much like german :) |
| 20:42.38 | Tupone | probably flemish |
| 20:43.29 | Birdie | hmm you are right there is a capellen in lux:) |
| 20:43.59 | Birdie | but its a very bad train connection, hopefull she can get her car to meet you |
| 20:44.11 | Birdie | in a car..i guess 2 hours driving |
| 20:45.06 | Tupone | If I'll be able to get to her. Wistle if it happens to be here :) |
| 20:45.17 | Birdie | yea and i have no clue how to reach her otherwise |
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| 21:09.21 | spldart | hrmm maybe I get to leave work early :) |
| 21:11.10 | JeffM2501 | who is "grand slam" and who pissed in his frosted flakes? |
| 21:12.26 | JeffM2501 | who is he? |
| 21:12.37 | JeffM2501 | he heas the same IP as another |
| 21:12.45 | *** part/#bzflag ToughShooter (n=ts@p54B03F9F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:14.20 | JeffM2501 | tho it bounces around |
| 21:14.24 | JeffM2501 | so hard to say |
| 21:17.24 | TD-Linux | I don't know who he is at all |
| 21:17.41 | TD-Linux | he changed his name to something that burned the eyes out and then changed it back |
| 21:19.28 | JeffM2501 | like? |
| 21:19.52 | TD-Linux | I don't remember |
| 21:20.05 | TD-Linux | it was painful |
| 21:20.11 | JeffM2501 | it's a word |
| 21:20.12 | TD-Linux | like Vogon Poetry |
| 21:20.18 | JeffM2501 | how can it be painfull |
| 21:21.59 | TD-Linux | if only I could remember |
| 21:22.02 | TD-Linux | it was two words |
| 21:22.08 | TD-Linux | one started with an S and the other with a P |
| 21:22.19 | JeffM2501 | if you know it just tell me |
| 21:22.20 | JeffM2501 | or /msg me |
| 21:22.22 | spldart | Sharp Pain? |
| 21:23.02 | TD-Linux | aha |
| 21:23.03 | spldart | Stabbed Pupil? |
| 21:23.03 | TD-Linux | found it |
| 21:23.09 | TD-Linux | Standaroules Plumbarmacy |
| 21:23.19 | JeffM2501 | odd |
| 21:24.01 | spldart | Dude is a Disney film? |
| 21:24.42 | JeffM2501 | it is? |
| 21:24.50 | TD-Linux | wow |
| 21:24.57 | TD-Linux | another grand slam post... |
| 21:25.07 | TD-Linux | -Shadow- changes his avatar... |
| 21:25.10 | TD-Linux | and grand slam says: |
| 21:25.19 | TD-Linux | "extremely ugly! not nice at all." |
| 21:25.22 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:25.30 | JeffM2501 | that's what put him on the radar |
| 21:25.31 | TD-Linux | and then earlier, someone makes a mars map |
| 21:25.33 | JeffM2501 | and why I ask |
| 21:25.37 | JeffM2501 | he had worse |
| 21:25.42 | JeffM2501 | they were removed |
| 21:25.48 | TD-Linux | ok |
| 21:26.08 | TD-Linux | ow |
| 21:26.11 | TD-Linux | his next post is worse |
| 21:26.31 | JeffM2501 | why do you think I am asking about him |
| 21:26.51 | TD-Linux | I hadn't seen those posts yet... |
| 21:27.00 | TD-Linux | haven't been keeping up on the forums lately |
| 21:28.07 | spldart | seems to be associated with snowball express fer some reason |
| 21:28.32 | JeffM2501 | sounds like pr0n |
| 21:29.24 | spldart | Movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0069291/ here but when you search the username in google you will find a million links between the username and that disney movie |
| 21:30.30 | spldart | odd |
| 21:30.38 | JeffM2501 | oh well |
| 21:31.52 | TD-Linux | hey, I never knew you could advertise a server to certain usergroups! Neat! |
| 21:32.33 | JeffM2501 | it's a newer feature |
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| 21:39.33 | spldart | headan home :) |
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| 22:03.44 | brad2901 | ~bzflist |
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| 22:15.25 | spldart | >Tupone.. building update bzfs 2.1 now |
| 22:15.34 | Tupone | :) |
| 22:16.27 | spldart | just did cvs up -dP.. that's fine isn't it? |
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| 22:21.07 | Tupone | depends on your workdir |
| 22:22.12 | spldart | I did cvs up -dP in my bzflag2.1/bzflag dir |
| 22:22.16 | spldart | in /home/user |
| 22:23.49 | spldart | halfway through client build on main rig 2 |
| 22:24.05 | Tupone | basically it depends on how you checkout, if that was the 2.1 it will stay in that, if it was 2.0 is again 2.0 |
| 22:24.45 | spldart | yeah.. I generelly log in once then run 'up' once in the 2.0 dir and once int he 2.1 dir |
| 22:32.38 | CIA-2 | opencombat: 03jeffm2501 * 10GPx01/client/ (5 files in 2 dirs): |
| 22:32.40 | CIA-2 | opencombat: split up the client game class to handle 3 distinct states ( game, wait, and menu ). |
| 22:32.42 | CIA-2 | opencombat: get the client to show some status messages while it's conecting. |
| 22:32.44 | CIA-2 | opencombat: use the mini tank background while conecting ( it's fun to look at ). |
| 22:32.53 | purple_cow | uh oh, it's got a menu? |
| 22:34.16 | spldart | Ok... build bzfs... it's online |
| 22:34.22 | spldart | build new client it's online |
| 22:34.43 | JeffM2501 | it's had a menu for a while |
| 22:34.48 | purple_cow | it's done! |
| 22:34.54 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 22:34.57 | JeffM2501 | it's just had a menu :) |
| 22:35.14 | JeffM2501 | it just now tells you what state it's in as it connects to a server |
| 22:35.23 | JeffM2501 | and this time, it actualy CONNECTS to a server |
| 22:36.18 | JeffM2501 | I just wish I could find some better GPL music |
| 22:36.57 | purple_cow | GPL would be a bizzare choice for music, since the GPL is a software license |
| 22:37.06 | purple_cow | you can probably find lots of CC-licensed music |
| 22:37.08 | BenUrban | bizarre, but possible |
| 22:37.11 | JeffM2501 | thats the term |
| 22:37.15 | JeffM2501 | couldn't remember it |
| 22:37.15 | wizatcomp | there's lots of CC music |
| 22:37.17 | JeffM2501 | cc |
| 22:37.29 | JeffM2501 | I was looking at the wikimedia place |
| 22:37.31 | JeffM2501 | found some |
| 22:37.37 | JeffM2501 | it's ok |
| 22:38.14 | JeffM2501 | so for music that is under creative commons |
| 22:38.18 | JeffM2501 | and they want a "by" line |
| 22:38.31 | JeffM2501 | does that mean I have to show a by line in game when the music plays? |
| 22:38.48 | JeffM2501 | or is it ok enough to just credit them in a file with the music? |
| 22:38.53 | wizatcomp | not sure |
| 22:39.00 | wizatcomp | CC's home page has all the info for it |
| 22:39.00 | purple_cow | JeffM2501: what's the specific license? |
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| 22:39.15 | JeffM2501 | I mean I can read the tags and do a little pop up and fade of a MTV type cridit |
| 22:39.26 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, let me find it |
| 22:40.12 | spldart | What changes were made to bzfs T? |
| 22:40.54 | JeffM2501 | This file is licensed under Creative Commons Attribution 1.0 License |
| 22:41.13 | JeffM2501 | http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/1.0/ |
| 22:41.15 | JeffM2501 | that one |
| 22:41.46 | JeffM2501 | I mean I don't mind doing an in game track crdit |
| 22:41.50 | JeffM2501 | it could look cool |
| 22:41.58 | JeffM2501 | and be nice when doing a net stream too |
| 22:42.11 | purple_cow | yeah. looks like it's up to the copyright holder to decide how they want attribution |
| 22:42.29 | JeffM2501 | be nice if they said how on the wikimedia page :) |
| 22:42.37 | JeffM2501 | where else is more CC music? |
| 22:42.51 | JeffM2501 | this is ok for menu music |
| 22:42.51 | purple_cow | http://creativecommons.org/find/ :) |
| 22:42.53 | JeffM2501 | but a bit tinny |
| 22:42.53 | JeffM2501 | http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Elysis-breakdown_easy.ogg |
| 22:43.02 | purple_cow | that's not an image! |
| 22:43.37 | JeffM2501 | image? |
| 22:43.47 | purple_cow | look at that URL |
| 22:43.59 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 22:44.02 | JeffM2501 | I dono |
| 22:44.05 | JeffM2501 | it's what they got |
| 23:18.21 | JeffM2501 | Standaroules Plumbarmacy |
| 23:18.23 | JeffM2501 | oops |
| 23:18.26 | JeffM2501 | http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/index.php/archives/2005/11/22/banned-xbox-360-ad-best-ad-ever/ |
| 23:22.05 | bri3d | lol |
| 23:22.08 | bri3d | that's great. |
| 23:22.22 | JeffM2501 | in essence it's what we all do online |
| 23:23.25 | bri3d | Yeah; true. |
| 23:24.12 | spldart | LOL |
| 23:28.04 | spldart | My kids loved that xbox add :) |
| 23:31.07 | CIA-2 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: removing MsgGrabFlag handling |
| 23:32.37 | spldart | hrm |
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