| 00:01.39 | purple_cow | still some things from 2004 there |
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| 00:03.28 | slon02 | jeff! |
| 00:03.35 | slon02 | are you there? |
| 00:04.00 | slon02 | jeff!!!! |
| 00:04.25 | brad2901 | calm down slon02... he'll answer soon enough :) |
| 00:04.39 | TimRiker | purple_cow: probably the old website formats. leave em there, I'll look at it soon. |
| 00:04.42 | slon02 | ok |
| 00:04.50 | purple_cow | TimRiker: ok |
| 00:05.19 | slon02 | i have very big and challenging question |
| 00:05.29 | purple_cow | slon02: so just ask it |
| 00:05.34 | slon02 | fine |
| 00:05.40 | slon02 | how do you host servers |
| 00:05.52 | orchid | ~bzfs |
| 00:05.54 | ibot | hmm... bzfs is the BZflag server, you need: -publicaddr server.name.com:5154 *and* -public " come play here" must be set in your bzfs.conf, *also* open the port (5154 in this case) in your firewall/router *also* see http://www.bzflag.org/wiki/CreatingAServer, or see http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 00:05.55 | slon02 | alex135 told me to ask jeff |
| 00:06.15 | brad2901 | slon02: what OS? |
| 00:06.23 | slon02 | os? |
| 00:06.46 | brad2901 | operating system.. i.e., windows, linux |
| 00:06.50 | purple_cow | slon02: start by reading those links that ibot just spat out |
| 00:06.54 | slon02 | windows |
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| 00:07.17 | slon02 | i'll look at the sites |
| 00:07.24 | raytek2 | hey slon |
| 00:07.48 | slon02 | hey |
| 00:07.53 | slon02 | i hate shadiw |
| 00:07.57 | slon02 | shadow* |
| 00:08.42 | slon02 | thanks |
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| 00:09.35 | raytek2 | oops it exited |
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| 00:17.31 | slon02 | argh |
| 00:17.39 | slon02 | i can't get the code to work |
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| 00:19.29 | slon02 | jeff |
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| 00:21.13 | slon02 | :( |
| 00:21.21 | JeffM2501 | ? |
| 00:22.09 | slon02 | your here! |
| 00:22.25 | slon02 | alex135 told me you can tell me how to host a server |
| 00:22.45 | JeffM2501 | read the manual pages, and the posts on the forums |
| 00:22.53 | slon02 | ... |
| 00:22.55 | JeffM2501 | there are very detailed instructions |
| 00:23.05 | slon02 | there is a slight problem |
| 00:23.11 | JeffM2501 | and that is? |
| 00:23.42 | slon02 | i'm reading your instructions of http://my.bzflag.orf/bb/viewtopic.php?t=2915 |
| 00:24.44 | slon02 | and i can't get the code to work- C:/Program Files/BZFlag2.0.0/ |
| 00:25.58 | slon02 | help me |
| 00:25.59 | JeffM2501 | you probalby have to reaplace the path with your real path |
| 00:26.09 | slon02 | something like that |
| 00:26.14 | JeffM2501 | maybe you want to learn more about command line useage |
| 00:26.18 | slon02 | yes |
| 00:26.22 | JeffM2501 | I'm not here to hold your hand |
| 00:26.27 | slon02 | k |
| 00:26.30 | JeffM2501 | you'll need to read up on your OS |
| 00:26.33 | JeffM2501 | and how to use it |
| 00:26.35 | slon02 | k |
| 00:26.47 | slon02 | ... |
| 00:27.17 | JeffM2501 | we have like nearly 200 servers right now. allmost one per player. I'm not real motivated to help yet another person who dosn't know what hosting a server realy means, to start another one |
| 00:27.31 | SeaSharp | I hear you there |
| 00:27.50 | SeaSharp | The only reason I put one up was because at home, I am dialup; even though I have a colocated server of my own |
| 00:28.10 | JeffM2501 | at least you know what "colocation" means :) |
| 00:28.15 | orange | but JeffM2501, having 200 servers means we have 200 people with super-uber-god-admin privileges, and that has to be good, right? :-) |
| 00:28.17 | SeaSharp | lol |
| 00:28.21 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 00:28.56 | SeaSharp | heh... I own around 15 channels in EFNet, have for 14+ years at this point...IRC and linux are nothing new to me |
| 00:28.57 | orange | oh, and I've been meaning to ask, can I have a group SILVERCAT.THIS_GROUP_IS_JUST_FOR_YOU_JOHNNY? |
| 00:29.02 | SeaSharp | it took a bit to get my server up tho |
| 00:29.54 | JeffM2501 | only if I can ban you |
| 00:30.01 | JeffM2501 | cus you know I LIVE for banning |
| 00:30.14 | SeaSharp | hey, is there a better editor than bzedit around? |
| 00:30.16 | JeffM2501 | it's the only thing that keeps me from the madness |
| 00:30.18 | SeaSharp | (winblows) |
| 00:30.23 | JeffM2501 | blender |
| 00:30.25 | SeaSharp | my only nix box is at the colo |
| 00:30.48 | JeffM2501 | what does nix have to do with it? |
| 00:30.51 | SeaSharp | I have a few more boxes at home here, but my wife will kill me if I make another Linux one |
| 00:31.02 | SeaSharp | there were a couple editors for linux, one for mac |
| 00:31.09 | SeaSharp | my macs are at the machine shop tho:( |
| 00:31.52 | JeffM2501 | there is one for linux |
| 00:31.56 | JeffM2501 | 1/2 of one for mac |
| 00:31.58 | SeaSharp | oh :) |
| 00:32.06 | SeaSharp | so where would I find Blender? |
| 00:32.11 | JeffM2501 | google |
| 00:32.17 | SeaSharp | sourceforge under bzflag stuff, I assume? |
| 00:32.47 | JeffM2501 | oh god no |
| 00:32.54 | JeffM2501 | blender isn't a bzflag thing |
| 00:32.57 | JeffM2501 | it's a full 3d modeler |
| 00:33.00 | SeaSharp | oh |
| 00:33.06 | JeffM2501 | tepic is making a bzw plugin for it |
| 00:33.12 | SeaSharp | shows what I know about modeling:) |
| 00:33.16 | JeffM2501 | basicly right now there is NO complete editor |
| 00:33.22 | JeffM2501 | for any OS |
| 00:33.28 | JeffM2501 | other then notepad |
| 00:34.03 | JeffM2501 | are you looking for an editor with more features then bzedit for windows? |
| 00:34.04 | SeaSharp | aye.. |
| 00:34.08 | SeaSharp | yeah |
| 00:34.10 | JeffM2501 | since you asked for a "better" one |
| 00:34.13 | JeffM2501 | one does not exist |
| 00:34.21 | SeaSharp | sry, not better but more features |
| 00:34.25 | JeffM2501 | there is no editor that supports all the 2.0 feeatures |
| 00:34.28 | SeaSharp | gotcha:) |
| 00:34.38 | JeffM2501 | the blender plugin when complete shoudl support all things |
| 00:34.54 | JeffM2501 | and blender is cross plat |
| 00:34.58 | SeaSharp | nice |
| 00:35.07 | purple_cow | hah |
| 00:35.09 | SeaSharp | I am getting it now |
| 00:35.10 | purple_cow | "when complete" |
| 00:35.11 | SeaSharp | gona play with it a bit |
| 00:35.15 | purple_cow | is anyone even working on it? |
| 00:35.20 | JeffM2501 | purple_cow, oh yeah |
| 00:35.24 | JeffM2501 | tepic is making good progress |
| 00:35.30 | JeffM2501 | he's added quite a lot |
| 00:35.33 | purple_cow | where? |
| 00:35.35 | JeffM2501 | fourms |
| 00:35.43 | JeffM2501 | map editors |
| 00:35.49 | JeffM2501 | I was talking to him about it |
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| 00:36.02 | JeffM2501 | he seems to have a good clear plan, and time/motivation to do it |
| 00:36.08 | JeffM2501 | he's even had a couple updates |
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| 00:37.04 | JeffM2501 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6859 |
| 00:37.11 | SeaSharp | been tryijng to get a hold of 1veedo; have to catch him in game to get his email methinks |
| 00:37.33 | JeffM2501 | send him a PM on the forums |
| 00:37.36 | JeffM2501 | it will e-mail him |
| 00:37.57 | SeaSharp | aye aye:) |
| 00:39.32 | purple_cow | hrm |
| 00:39.36 | purple_cow | his cvs server seems broken |
| 00:39.39 | JeffM2501 | I haven't tried it |
| 00:39.56 | JeffM2501 | he did say he was having server issues |
| 00:40.08 | JeffM2501 | next time I saw him was going to see if he wanted to just huck it in SF |
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| 02:49.49 | JeffM2501 | damn is this one big case |
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| 03:29.26 | orange | stop the madness |
| 03:30.33 | brad2901 | ~onjoin -brad2901 |
| 03:30.35 | ibot | ok, brad2901 |
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| 04:15.08 | SeaSharp | woo |
| 04:15.15 | SeaSharp | I am hosting the Quarry now |
| 04:15.27 | SeaSharp | my favorite map; asked 1veedo for the map |
| 04:15.36 | SeaSharp | someone come join me, eh? |
| 04:16.02 | SeaSharp | 12.36.193.45:5154 |
| 04:16.04 | SeaSharp | woo |
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| 04:55.54 | Grackshrike | Hio all, when I try to install the latest bzflag-2.0.4.20050930-i386-Opkg I get the error "Could not download library libXxf86vm.so.1" ...is there anything I can do to resolve this? |
| 04:59.18 | Grackshrike | Hmm, I appear to have that library. |
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| 05:27.50 | ibot | DTRemenak: ok |
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| 08:30.33 | LePoulpe30341 | does "a meteorite" connect here sometimes ? |
| 08:34.28 | LePoulpe30341 | meacan: thanks for email redirection !!! works great ! ;) |
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| 13:35.50 | Paul_RM | any BZFlag expert handy for a mo? :-) |
| 13:36.49 | Paul_RM | I'm after some help trying to get it working across our local network |
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| 16:19.18 | SeaSharp | hellooo |
| 16:19.24 | SeaSharp | quick question |
| 16:19.36 | SeaSharp | when I impose a ban, its only on my server, right? |
| 16:19.43 | BearPerson | yes |
| 16:19.49 | SeaSharp | ok just making sure:) |
| 16:20.06 | SeaSharp | this guy was msging me repeatedly for admin privs, and I was like stop asking |
| 16:20.07 | BearPerson | there is a masterban file that most servers use too, though |
| 16:20.07 | SeaSharp | heh |
| 16:20.15 | SeaSharp | I saw that |
| 16:20.16 | SeaSharp | :) |
| 16:20.36 | BearPerson | people asking for admin privs should not be given any |
| 16:20.41 | SeaSharp | I know it |
| 16:20.45 | BearPerson | first rule of running a server ;-) |
| 16:20.55 | SeaSharp | I am the only admin on my box and I like it that way, until I know ppl better |
| 16:21.20 | SeaSharp | 1veedo is the only one I would give it to, and that's because he let me run his quarry map |
| 16:21.59 | SeaSharp | its been rather busy here and there |
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| 16:22.18 | SeaSharp | I am only running dual bound T1s right now; am upping to 45Mbit in April at my colocation |
| 16:22.50 | SeaSharp | will prolly run a few more games tehn |
| 16:22.53 | SeaSharp | *then |
| 16:23.41 | SeaSharp | but im back afk:) |
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| 17:14.59 | JBdiGriz | brlcad: http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20060214/news_1b14koch.html |
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| 18:18.38 | SeaSharp | where can I find a bot for bzflag? |
| 18:19.36 | brad2901 | bzflag -solo <number_of_bots> |
| 18:19.55 | SeaSharp | oh wow |
| 18:19.56 | SeaSharp | righto |
| 18:19.59 | SeaSharp | thx |
| 18:20.25 | brad2901 | :) |
| 18:21.19 | SeaSharp | ugh I need a gui to do it:( |
| 18:21.42 | brad2901 | yup |
| 18:22.18 | brlcad | JBdiGriz: heh, I have a couple in my fridge now |
| 18:22.48 | SeaSharp | whelp off to play on my server |
| 18:23.01 | ToughShooter | The bots aren't behaving smart, either so it's good they need a full client in 2.0.x :) |
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| 20:42.22 | Alex135 | where can i get the sorce code for 2.0.5b5? |
| 20:44.05 | Alex135 | or is it not posible. |
| 20:44.34 | trepan | http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=3248 |
| 20:45.55 | Alex135 | but where in the cvs respritory can i find it.. i download the sorce for bzfl ag and i get the new beta 2.1.x stuff.. i want it ... but until it is fully stable i dont think i will download |
| 20:46.22 | brad2901 | ~bzcvs |
| 20:46.23 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 20:46.29 | Alex135 | thx |
| 20:49.57 | Alex135 | Empty password used - try 'cvs login' with a real password |
| 20:49.57 | Alex135 | cvs [checkout aborted]: Error reading from server cvs.bzflag.org: 0: Invalid arg |
| 20:49.57 | Alex135 | ument |
| 20:50.02 | Alex135 | ? |
| 20:50.11 | Alex135 | thats what it said |
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| 21:14.13 | Alex135 | something is wrong with sorceforge or me... i cant download any sorce at all... is anyone else having this problum? im using TortoiseCVS in windows |
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| 21:17.08 | ruskie | Alex135, sf provides a wonderful service but they break down regulary :) |
| 21:17.20 | ruskie | Alex135, simply try and try and try until you succede :) |
| 21:17.37 | BearPerson | succumb might be more likely ;-) |
| 21:18.07 | pianoboy3333 | Is there a place that provides free servers for BZFlag? So I can host my own map? |
| 21:18.26 | Alex135 | no you need to make your own server |
| 21:18.35 | ruskie | or find someone to host your map :) |
| 21:18.42 | Alex135 | ok i will keep trying... thx all |
| 21:18.56 | pianoboy3333 | Can I host a map myself? |
| 21:18.59 | Alex135 | yes |
| 21:19.15 | pianoboy3333 | But on the internet |
| 21:19.31 | pianoboy3333 | So that my friend who lives 3 mi away can play against me too. |
| 21:19.45 | ruskie | yes |
| 21:19.46 | Alex135 | wait, do you want a server or a map host? |
| 21:19.51 | ruskie | you can run your own bzfs |
| 21:20.00 | ruskie | and connect to that |
| 21:20.06 | ruskie | and your friend connects to it aswell |
| 21:20.19 | Alex135 | yeah.... but you musut have a opened port on your firewall |
| 21:20.30 | Alex135 | and run it on that... defult is 5154 |
| 21:21.27 | pianoboy3333 | But don't some people host their maps on like a site? Like Badgerking's is bzflag.fielders.us |
| 21:21.45 | Alex135 | it is posible... but if you want someone else to join you need to host a server |
| 21:22.10 | Alex135 | ofcors... i have a few open ports but they are reserved so it dont realy matter |
| 21:22.17 | pianoboy3333 | Is there a guide for this somewhere, I run Linux, ubuntu if you need to know. |
| 21:22.19 | ruskie | pianoboy3333, those ppl run their own servers |
| 21:22.44 | Alex135 | i host 2 of them |
| 21:22.55 | Alex135 | it requires you to do it |
| 21:23.02 | Alex135 | and it is sometimes a lot of work... depending |
| 21:23.06 | ruskie | hmmm bzflag.dtdm.org rotation hasn't been active in a while... |
| 21:23.28 | Alex135 | maby they would be willing to host your map and have that be your server |
| 21:24.23 | ruskie | well I generaly don't mind hosting other ppls maps... but it's a rotation... |
| 21:24.54 | pianoboy3333 | What is the difference btwn a Server and a map host? |
| 21:25.04 | brlcad | about 5 dollars |
| 21:25.21 | pianoboy3333 | lol |
| 21:25.23 | Alex135 | map host is just for downloading... server is playing on the server map... just like any other server |
| 21:25.47 | Alex135 | its simple to do if you know what you are doing... |
| 21:26.38 | pianoboy3333 | If I wanted my own server to run my own map, what would I do? |
| 21:27.06 | Alex135 | well there should be a bzfs file in the bzflag directory |
| 21:27.20 | Alex135 | that is the secrit to server hosting |
| 21:28.02 | Alex135 | that is what dose all the work, you use a consol to go and put comands into it... you can do it just by using consol or you can use a configuration file also |
| 21:28.40 | brlcad | you'd read the bzfs manual page for starters, at least that's what you should do |
| 21:29.09 | Alex135 | yes |
| 21:29.14 | Alex135 | that is the easer way |
| 21:29.20 | Alex135 | takes less time for me to explain things also :P |
| 21:29.24 | pianoboy3333 | ok |
| 21:29.39 | brlcad | there are already too many servers |
| 21:29.47 | brlcad | ~bzflist |
| 21:30.18 | brlcad | that's not even 2 players for every server |
| 21:30.57 | JeffM2501 | I don't think it's been that low for years |
| 21:30.57 | DTRemenak | hey, we're finally up over one player/server :) |
| 21:31.01 | JeffM2501 | 2 players per server I mean |
| 21:31.28 | brlcad | player count hasn't decreased, server count keeps going up though |
| 21:31.29 | JeffM2501 | it usualy hands around 3 servers per 2 players IIRC |
| 21:31.31 | pianoboy3333 | But if I host a map with bzfs, when I shut the CLI off, the server will quit right? |
| 21:31.32 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:31.38 | DTRemenak | run it in screen |
| 21:31.48 | brlcad | and there's a "few" who seem to find some use for running 20+ servers |
| 21:31.55 | DTRemenak | or with daemon if you're on bsd. nor sure what the equivalent is on linux. |
| 21:31.56 | brlcad | should limit the number of bzfs per ip or something |
| 21:31.58 | JeffM2501 | brlcad, I've taken to helping people set up servers less. to keep it from blooming |
| 21:32.15 | JeffM2501 | and DAMN is this ia nice monitor :) |
| 21:32.24 | brlcad | oh, new toy? |
| 21:32.29 | JeffM2501 | the 24 |
| 21:32.31 | JeffM2501 | and a new case |
| 21:32.32 | brlcad | ah, hehe |
| 21:32.36 | DTRemenak | nice |
| 21:32.40 | JeffM2501 | a case of penultimate justice |
| 21:32.46 | JeffM2501 | $300 |
| 21:32.57 | brlcad | er, the case or the display? :) |
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| 21:33.08 | DTRemenak | hm, so where's the case of ultimate justice? |
| 21:33.21 | brlcad | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 21:33.42 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 21:33.44 | JeffM2501 | http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/CoolerMaster/Products.aspx?pid=1083 |
| 21:34.03 | brlcad | purdy |
| 21:34.11 | JeffM2501 | barely fits under the deks |
| 21:34.14 | Alex135 | lol |
| 21:34.15 | JeffM2501 | desk |
| 21:34.26 | brlcad | mm.. decks! |
| 21:34.28 | DTRemenak | nice |
| 21:34.30 | Alex135 | well i doubt it would fit under a deak eather :P |
| 21:34.46 | JeffM2501 | going to turn the display 90 and see how games run on it too :) |
| 21:34.58 | Alex135 | lol |
| 21:35.27 | Alex135 | im just runing my laptop on a DELL latitude D800 |
| 21:35.46 | Alex135 | and my PC is custum built... but junk case |
| 21:36.19 | Alex135 | im planing on giting one of those clear ones... and put LED ones |
| 21:36.27 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 21:36.29 | JeffM2501 | I'm sorry |
| 21:37.08 | Alex135 | lol atlist the server i run my bzflag stuff with is supper powerful :P |
| 21:37.33 | Alex135 | T1 connection :P |
| 21:37.36 | Alex135 | lol |
| 21:37.49 | Alex135 | sadly it is on a diff ISP then me sence it is at a diff building |
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| 21:38.09 | raytray25 | hi |
| 21:38.33 | brlcad | howdy |
| 21:39.09 | Alex135 | how soon do you think the 2.1.x season will be released oficialy? |
| 21:39.30 | brlcad | 2.1 gets released as 2.2 |
| 21:39.45 | brlcad | and not likely soon |
| 21:40.15 | Alex135 | :( well atlist it is in develpment on cvs i had the sorce yesterday and i checked it out |
| 21:40.28 | Alex135 | i like the new way it will look |
| 21:40.56 | gsnedders | new way? |
| 21:41.01 | gsnedders | what's new about the look? |
| 21:41.10 | gsnedders | it looks the same as 2.0.5 to me |
| 21:41.20 | Alex135 | well there are some changes... |
| 21:41.26 | gsnedders | what like? |
| 21:41.56 | Alex135 | well i saw the grafix and stuff... somehow they look better... more efects and the main screen looks better :P |
| 21:42.50 | gsnedders | there are a couple... but those are in 2.0.5 as well ;) |
| 21:43.05 | Alex135 | oh well :P |
| 21:43.08 | Alex135 | i like it :P |
| 21:43.18 | Alex135 | evrything new in bzflag i like :P |
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| 21:43.45 | Alex135 | hope they can make a better featur tho.... the rings spawning needs work... like first the rings then the tan starts |
| 21:44.03 | gsnedders | what is good is way way way higher FPS :) |
| 21:44.04 | Alex135 | tank* |
| 21:46.33 | JeffM2501 | lights in cases make them ugly |
| 21:46.47 | JeffM2501 | this case won't have lights as soon as I can find my wire cutters |
| 21:47.01 | JeffM2501 | gsnedders, spend 200$ |
| 21:47.19 | trepan | JeffM2501: unless you've got liquid cooling, then lights are kinda neat |
| 21:47.22 | gsnedders | JeefM2501, what? |
| 21:47.35 | gsnedders | lights are horrid |
| 21:47.36 | JeffM2501 | oh I Missread your thing gsnedders , sorry :( |
| 21:47.47 | JeffM2501 | trepan, I am pondering the liquid cooling |
| 21:47.53 | JeffM2501 | tho this case has no windows |
| 21:47.55 | gsnedders | JeffM2501, /me wonders what the hell you thought :) |
| 21:47.59 | JeffM2501 | and I am happpy |
| 21:48.09 | Alex135 | lol |
| 21:48.16 | JeffM2501 | gsnedders, I thought you said "what is the best way for way way higher FPS" |
| 21:48.22 | gsnedders | ah |
| 21:48.29 | gsnedders | already got a 6800 ultra ddl :P |
| 21:48.34 | Alex135 | seems you are in a good mood today JeffM2501 ;) |
| 21:48.36 | JeffM2501 | so you spend 200$ :) |
| 21:48.46 | JeffM2501 | Alex135, why would I not be? |
| 21:49.00 | gsnedders | you often are less... happy |
| 21:49.06 | JeffM2501 | not really |
| 21:49.21 | JeffM2501 | just noone has done anything stupid today ;) |
| 21:49.25 | gsnedders | well, come across less happily :) |
| 21:49.36 | JeffM2501 | wel that's the text for ya |
| 21:49.45 | Alex135 | lol |
| 21:50.15 | Alex135 | the funny thing i did yesterday was... i couldnt find out why my server woundt start... i found i was using wrong config file :P |
| 21:50.26 | gsnedders | :P |
| 21:50.30 | Alex135 | took me 2 hours to figur that out tho :P |
| 21:50.32 | Alex135 | lol |
| 21:50.38 | Alex135 | it was so funny |
| 21:50.43 | gsnedders | JeffM2501, remember when we were quoting Queen? |
| 21:50.56 | gsnedders | that ended up as a good laugh :) |
| 21:51.13 | JeffM2501 | studies show that the average user only has a 50/50 chance of geting the tone of text based comunication right. |
| 21:51.22 | gsnedders | that low! :o |
| 21:51.26 | Alex135 | lol |
| 21:51.26 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 21:51.30 | Alex135 | im living proof of that :P |
| 21:51.34 | Alex135 | lol |
| 21:51.35 | gsnedders | :D |
| 21:51.44 | JeffM2501 | most common cause of flame wars is tone misunderstanding |
| 21:51.50 | trepan | JeffM2501: you being sardonic? |
| 21:52.00 | JeffM2501 | I don't even know what that word means |
| 21:52.06 | Alex135 | nor do it :P |
| 21:52.11 | Alex135 | i* |
| 21:52.14 | trepan | sarcastic, insincere |
| 21:52.17 | gsnedders | "grimly mocking or cynical" |
| 21:52.24 | JeffM2501 | if It means looking for TVs on the net.. then yes |
| 21:52.33 | JeffM2501 | no, it was a thing I read the other day |
| 21:52.38 | JeffM2501 | on /. IIRC |
| 21:52.52 | gsnedders | *dictionaries built in at an OS level… so useful…* |
| 21:53.01 | JeffM2501 | umm ok |
| 21:53.10 | trepan | JeffM2501: some jokes just plain don't work here ;) |
| 21:53.18 | JeffM2501 | exactly |
| 21:53.23 | JeffM2501 | case in point |
| 21:53.38 | Alex135 | well remember... were all in difrent ages, culturs, places, ect :P |
| 21:53.51 | JeffM2501 | so all I need now is my new video card and I'm set |
| 21:54.05 | JeffM2501 | and to finish the tube work in the case |
| 21:54.16 | trepan | Alex135: well remember, not everything posted here is for your benefit :) |
| 21:54.53 | gsnedders | die! |
| 21:55.09 | Alex135 | lol |
| 21:55.19 | JeffM2501 | yeah could do with out the constant LOL |
| 21:55.19 | raytray25 | hmmmm |
| 21:55.30 | raytray25 | what ^ sai |
| 21:55.33 | raytray25 | said* |
| 21:55.39 | Alex135 | sry |
| 21:55.52 | gsnedders | ergh. looks like my site is gonna go over my bandwidth limit again... |
| 21:56.04 | Saturos | Yay. Finally! I booted my BZFlag linux live cd! :D Hi guys! :) |
| 21:56.23 | JeffM2501 | trepan, how will bz handle an aspect ratio that has height larger then width? |
| 21:56.29 | raytray25 | Alex135: it isnt that serious.. lol i'm just brownnosing |
| 21:56.32 | JeffM2501 | will it increase the vertical FOV? |
| 21:57.03 | JeffM2501 | wonder if turning the display 90 will make me able to see "up" more |
| 21:58.25 | Saturos | I spent the last five days with building a live-cd that is about BZFlag. It has 2.0.0, 2.0.2, 2.0.4, it will have 1.10.X and maybe 1.7g. Moreover blender with teppics im-/exporter, wings, modeltool (is there a linux-version?), a customized KDE (that is almost done), all my wallpaper, BZFlag-bookmarks in Firefox, direct links for joining this channel with x-chat etc etc etc. It is called BZAnywhere and at the weekend ready for release. Only pro |
| 21:58.28 | trepan | think the FOV is based on vertical, but try it (-window) |
| 21:58.42 | trepan | s/vertical/horizontal |
| 21:58.53 | JeffM2501 | at work, display isn't hooked up, just pondering |
| 21:59.16 | trepan | looks like it's horiz |
| 21:59.37 | Alex135 | JeffM2501, sence your in a good mood can you quickly upload my texture in the map texture upload / request forum? or are you busy? |
| 22:01.09 | trepan | Saturos: modeltool does build on linux |
| 22:02.26 | Saturos | k, I'll include it then. :) |
| 22:02.37 | JeffM2501 | it just dosn't build on the tosh |
| 22:03.14 | Saturos | I don't care about the tosh. ;) The live-cd won't boot on ppc anyways I think. |
| 22:03.31 | JeffM2501 | Alex135, your texture is not the right size |
| 22:03.33 | JeffM2501 | power of 2 |
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| 22:27.54 | raytray25 | hi |
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| 22:33.22 | lopey | Can anyone help with loading bzflag on mac mini os 10.4.4? |
| 22:33.46 | CBG | lopey: what is the problem? |
| 22:33.58 | CBG | You should be able to just download and play. |
| 22:34.30 | lopey | Launch and screen goes black, pauses 2 seconds, fades back to desktop and quits bzflag |
| 22:34.52 | JeffM2501 | what version are you using? |
| 22:35.06 | lopey | 2.0.4 |
| 22:35.29 | lopey | I've tried launching in termainal with "-window" modifier, which gets me to the startup screen, which is inactive (no keys work) |
| 22:35.31 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 22:35.44 | lopey | I've tried trashing and re-downloading, trashing prefs and config.cfg |
| 22:37.31 | lopey | On the forums, other have had similar problems, but were generally fixed with what I've already tried. Even some with slower systems than mine (1.25 GHz) |
| 22:37.46 | JeffM2501 | I have a mini |
| 22:37.50 | JeffM2501 | it runs fine for me |
| 22:37.59 | lopey | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:38.08 | JeffM2501 | speed is not the issue |
| 22:38.16 | JeffM2501 | I've run it on a 350mhz G3 |
| 22:38.32 | lopey | Could it be the graphics processor? |
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| 22:40.37 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 22:40.47 | JeffM2501 | like I say I have a mini and it works fine |
| 22:40.58 | JeffM2501 | it is probly something you have on your sytem that is freaking it out |
| 22:41.01 | JeffM2501 | or a bad build |
| 22:41.42 | lopey | must be something on my system, since I've redownloaded several times and no one else is having problems with 2.0.4, at least not many |
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| 22:41.49 | lopey | any ideas on how to troubleshoot? |
| 22:46.35 | CBG | Hit it with a stick? :) |
| 22:47.11 | lopey | CBG, I tried that too... also tried 640 x 400 screen res |
| 22:47.59 | CBG | heh... |
| 22:48.33 | lopey | and dunking in ice cold water |
| 22:48.59 | CBG | Even that didn't work? Bah... |
| 22:49.16 | CBG | Did you ask nicely? |
| 22:50.13 | lopey | Just did. But I don't speak binary. looking at the forums, it seems as though a bunch of mac folks are either getting system freezes or similar probs, with various solutions posed. Maybe the mac developers need to get together and figure this one out, if they feel the urge. |
| 22:52.42 | lopey | okay, well, I'll just cross my fingers. Thanks for the ideas CBG and JeffM2501 |
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| 23:31.42 | SeaSharp | hrm |
| 23:34.16 | SeaSharp | 7sloooow day |