| 00:05.04 | huwnet | ... |
| 00:08.23 | JeffM2501 | don't know if anyone has done a win64 version of it |
| 00:08.34 | JeffM2501 | not sure why you'd want to run win64 in this day in age |
| 00:09.22 | JeffM2501 | the problem in that post was due to a way old platform SDK back in VC6 days, win64 uses the newer headers with the proper defines. |
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| 00:49.25 | huwnet | back. The x64 sdk still has the same files as the x86 it just has the x64 files as well. I am still compiling as x86 so it shouldn't really make a difference. Thanks for your help. I have to go for the night be I would be grateful to now when I next come on or in the forum if anyone has any ideas :D |
| 00:56.50 | findlay | if I run bzfs without the '-public' option, does that prevent my server from being seen externally? |
| 00:57.07 | CBG | findlay: should do... |
| 00:58.42 | menotume | findlay, yes, and no global reg either |
| 00:59.38 | findlay | OK, thanks. The man page didn't seem explicit on that |
| 01:00.34 | menotume | it's very explicit, if you know how to read between the lines :P |
| 01:00.42 | DTRemenak | haha |
| 01:01.18 | DTRemenak | without -public, it will show up for machines on your LAN but not on the public network. if you want to prevent it from showing up on the LAN, use -q also. |
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| 01:02.16 | JeffM2501 | if you want global reg but not be on the list server you can use the advertise function as well |
| 01:02.27 | catalin | hi |
| 01:02.32 | JeffM2501 | hello |
| 01:02.36 | catalin | anyone can hel me |
| 01:02.38 | catalin | hi |
| 01:02.47 | JeffM2501 | depends what you need help with |
| 01:03.01 | catalin | bzflag freezes my computer entirely |
| 01:03.10 | catalin | after a few seconds of playing |
| 01:03.28 | JeffM2501 | does it then crash? |
| 01:03.33 | menotume | I don't think it's supposed to do that |
| 01:03.34 | JeffM2501 | or you just have to force it quit? |
| 01:04.05 | catalin | I cannot do anything after that, I have to go somewhere else and to connect with ssh to restart the computer |
| 01:04.09 | menotume | I wish we could do a /clientquery here |
| 01:04.14 | catalin | X server crashes also |
| 01:04.16 | menotume | ahhh, nix |
| 01:04.26 | JeffM2501 | what video card and driver are you using? |
| 01:04.52 | catalin | Elsa Gloria II-Pro with Nvidia Chipset 64Mb |
| 01:05.04 | JeffM2501 | and what driver? |
| 01:05.17 | catalin | the legacy driver from nvidia |
| 01:05.22 | JeffM2501 | legacy? |
| 01:05.26 | catalin | I tried all of them |
| 01:05.26 | JeffM2501 | the binary one? |
| 01:05.32 | catalin | drivers , I mean |
| 01:05.42 | catalin | I've tried that also |
| 01:05.50 | catalin | I have debian stable |
| 01:05.51 | JeffM2501 | well that's the one you shoudl run |
| 01:05.52 | menotume | does glxgears run ok ? |
| 01:05.54 | JeffM2501 | the binary one |
| 01:06.31 | JeffM2501 | the current ones are 8178 |
| 01:06.37 | JeffM2501 | what version of bz are you using? |
| 01:06.45 | menotume | catalin: side note ... if it happens again, ssh in and just restart X |
| 01:07.11 | findlay | could be bad RAM too |
| 01:07.22 | JeffM2501 | you can also try runing in a window to see if you can get back to X |
| 01:07.29 | JeffM2501 | yeah could be any maner of bad hardware |
| 01:07.31 | JeffM2501 | overheating |
| 01:07.34 | catalin | it's curios because I can play another 3 D games like ppracer |
| 01:07.34 | JeffM2501 | any sort of thing |
| 01:07.48 | JeffM2501 | not all 3d games work the same |
| 01:08.04 | menotume | catalin: so, you're ok in the menus, server list, etc..... but when you play it locks up ? |
| 01:08.06 | catalin | with -window crashes also |
| 01:08.25 | catalin | yes, after a few seconds of playing |
| 01:08.32 | JeffM2501 | what version of bz do you have? |
| 01:08.34 | menotume | hmm |
| 01:08.46 | catalin | I've tried 202 and 204 |
| 01:08.51 | catalin | the same problem |
| 01:08.52 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 01:09.15 | catalin | is the graphic card maybe a little bit to old? |
| 01:09.19 | menotume | this is beyond my expertise, sry :( |
| 01:10.21 | JeffM2501 | no it should not be at all |
| 01:10.37 | JeffM2501 | bz runs in software wih realy old stuff |
| 01:10.46 | JeffM2501 | older slower cards just make the game slower |
| 01:10.52 | JeffM2501 | it still runs |
| 01:11.00 | JeffM2501 | it could be adns doing something |
| 01:11.04 | catalin | I see |
| 01:11.04 | blast007 | http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/video/mrga4/en/specs.htm |
| 01:11.07 | JeffM2501 | it coudl be your x driver |
| 01:11.13 | JeffM2501 | it could be some bad hardware |
| 01:11.14 | JeffM2501 | hard to say |
| 01:11.31 | JeffM2501 | the quadro cards were not realy made for gamin |
| 01:11.40 | JeffM2501 | but there is nothing that says they should not work |
| 01:12.23 | JeffM2501 | I've run bz on quadro 1 cards like you have before |
| 01:12.25 | JeffM2501 | under windows |
| 01:12.28 | JeffM2501 | they ran it fine |
| 01:12.42 | catalin | hm, weird:( |
| 01:13.04 | JeffM2501 | you could try to build your own, that way it uses all your local stuff ( like gl libs) |
| 01:13.38 | catalin | ? I didn't get it..:D |
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| 01:16.41 | JeffM2501 | you are using binary versions from apt? |
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| 01:17.10 | menotume | weeeeeeee |
| 01:17.10 | JeffM2501 | wheeee |
| 01:17.10 | JeffM2501 | ride the split |
| 01:17.10 | JeffM2501 | catalin, you are using binary versions from apt? |
| 01:17.10 | catalin | no |
| 01:17.10 | JeffM2501 | you built from source? |
| 01:17.10 | catalin | I;ve tried that, but it also didn't work |
| 01:17.10 | catalin | yes |
| 01:17.10 | JeffM2501 | well you could try 2.0.x cvs |
| 01:17.11 | JeffM2501 | other then that, I dono |
| 01:17.11 | JeffM2501 | maybe run it in a debuger too and see if you can break it when it locks up to see if its' in a loop |
| 01:17.11 | catalin | I tried to dowload it but is not available anymore, at least on bzflag.org |
| 01:17.11 | JeffM2501 | you can use CVS to get the current code |
| 01:17.11 | JeffM2501 | directly from sourceforge |
| 01:17.11 | catalin | I read somewhere that I need the legacy driver for quadro, and now I have it but no change |
| 01:17.50 | JeffM2501 | IIRC the current ones should run any card back to the TNT |
| 01:18.32 | JeffM2501 | oh it does look like the did desuport the quadro 1 |
| 01:18.59 | JeffM2501 | it's GF2MX or better now |
| 01:19.05 | JeffM2501 | even the TNTs |
| 01:19.12 | JeffM2501 | probably about time |
| 01:19.16 | blast007 | :) |
| 01:19.44 | catalin | ok, ill try the last driver from Nvidia, although I;ve tried ti already, but I cannot rememberd what happened, I tried a lot of things...:) |
| 01:20.38 | JeffM2501 | best of luck |
| 01:21.09 | catalin | thanx, hope not to come back with the same problem, although...:D |
| 01:21.28 | I_Died_Once | http://planet-mofo.com/index.php?cat=ladder&page=mostlosses |
| 01:21.30 | I_Died_Once | oops |
| 01:25.05 | spldart | I can't believe I didnt' make that list |
| 01:27.59 | menotume | 2.1 BILLION losses ? |
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| 01:29.54 | spldart | I mean really i'm the biggest looser to ever run a server :-) |
| 01:30.09 | catalin | The nvidia Quadro GPU installed in this system is supported through the legacy drivers... |
| 01:30.32 | catalin | with the newest driver from nvidia.com |
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| 01:33.15 | frig | wow, there are a lot more people here than i expected :) |
| 01:33.22 | romfis_ | 10 I_Died_Once ??01 |
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| 01:35.40 | findlay | menotume: that would be approximately 6.8060831 years if your tank was destroyed once per second |
| 01:35.53 | menotume | :) |
| 01:36.03 | pianoboy3333 | Ok, I'm making a CTF map, and when I test it, it says that there is no based defined for red team, how can I make it so that the only teams the server allows are purple and blue? |
| 01:36.14 | pianoboy3333 | What bzfs options? |
| 01:36.30 | Thumper_ | pianoboy3333: -ms 0,0,0,5,5,5 |
| 01:36.39 | pianoboy3333 | ok |
| 01:36.40 | Thumper_ | for 5 purple,blue,observers |
| 01:36.41 | menotume | -mp |
| 01:36.47 | Thumper_ | duh. -mp :) |
| 01:36.54 | Thumper_ | for MaxPlayers |
| 01:36.58 | Thumper_ | -ms is MaxShots |
| 01:37.05 | Thumper_ | thx menotume |
| 01:37.09 | menotume | np :) |
| 01:37.16 | blast007 | Maximum Shooters ;) |
| 01:37.26 | pianoboy3333 | Thumper_: yeah, u mean -mp... |
| 01:40.22 | willis_ | poo, every 'willis' type name is already used |
| 01:45.19 | CBG | heh |
| 01:45.56 | CBG | w1llis? will1s? wi||is? :) |
| 01:46.27 | frig | oh yeah, am gonna have to get all 1337 on j005 |
| 01:46.38 | CBG | hell yeah |
| 01:46.43 | romfis_ | 10CBG? CBG? CBG? CBG? :) |
| 01:46.56 | frig | :D |
| 01:47.01 | romfis_ | 10hihi |
| 01:47.01 | CBG | romfis_? romfis_? romfis_? romfis_? |
| 01:47.04 | CBG | :) |
| 01:47.07 | romfis_ | 10hehe |
| 01:47.15 | romfis_ | 10oh ah _ |
| 01:47.18 | romfis_ | 10nlol |
| 01:47.39 | frig | romfis_? CBG? romfis_? CBG? |
| 01:47.51 | romfis_ | 10LOL |
| 01:48.15 | blast007 | why green text...? |
| 01:48.26 | findlay | romfis_: how did you get my irssi client to print in green? |
| 01:48.35 | pianoboy3333 | Thumper_: One more question, +f team{2} puts two flags out, but is there away to make sure there is always one blue and one purple? |
| 01:49.00 | pianoboy3333 | romfis: yea, how did u do that? |
| 01:49.21 | blast007 | he changed the color in Trillian |
| 01:49.21 | blast007 | and please turn it off |
| 01:49.22 | pianoboy3333 | yea, please |
| 01:49.26 | romfis_ | 10yes trillian lol |
| 01:49.30 | pianoboy3333 | anyway, back to ME |
| 01:49.34 | CBG | geez, it's just COLOR guys. |
| 01:49.50 | romfis_ | 10http://www.bzflag.at/trillian-irc.png |
| 01:49.51 | frig | but it hurts |
| 01:49.53 | findlay | but if all our clients support it, does that mean it's standard, like in the RFC, etc? |
| 01:49.57 | eXtreme | cbg: colour*, grr. you of all people should know :) |
| 01:50.06 | pianoboy3333 | lol |
| 01:50.14 | CBG | eXtreme: bah. I am too used to HTML and CSS... |
| 01:50.23 | frig | its color :p |
| 01:50.27 | pianoboy3333 | +f team{2} puts two flags out, but is there away to make sure there is always one blue and one purple? |
| 01:50.29 | eXtreme | colour* |
| 01:50.44 | frig | color* |
| 01:50.50 | romfis_ | 10:) |
| 01:50.59 | romfis_ | 10test |
| 01:51.06 | romfis_ | 10test |
| 01:51.06 | pianoboy3333 | NOO! |
| 01:51.18 | frig | OMG |
| 01:51.19 | romfis_ | 1010,06test |
| 01:51.21 | eXtreme | ... |
| 01:51.31 | findlay | ouch |
| 01:51.35 | blast007 | pianoboy3333: maybe +f P*{1} +f B*{1} |
| 01:51.36 | romfis_ | 1515,06test |
| 01:51.42 | pianoboy3333 | kk.... |
| 01:51.45 | orange | perhaps you could test somewhere else? |
| 01:51.47 | eXtreme | romfis, #test maybe ? |
| 01:51.54 | CBG | 3 cheers for romfis_ :) |
| 01:51.58 | romfis_ | 1515,06wait, moment. |
| 01:52.13 | orange | some op turn on no-color mode? |
| 01:52.17 | Aribeth | hey orange! |
| 01:52.19 | frig | i really cant read that |
| 01:52.25 | orchid | romfis_: stop it |
| 01:52.27 | findlay | and I thought I finally got away from TWM |
| 01:52.28 | orange | hey aribeth |
| 01:52.32 | eXtreme | then we won't be able to see you, orange |
| 01:52.35 | romfis_ | 1515,06your see color ? |
| 01:52.43 | romfis_ | 1515,06here on IRC ? |
| 01:52.50 | eXtreme | erm, yes |
| 01:52.53 | Aribeth | ok enough of the coller texting |
| 01:53.01 | Aribeth | er color |
| 01:53.04 | frig | i see grey on pink... not a good combo |
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| 01:53.16 | orange | CBG: it's annoying, and worthless to the channel |
| 01:53.19 | frig | color* |
| 01:53.34 | CBG | orange: yeah, but no need for all the "Ahh! Change it! OMG!!!". |
| 01:53.35 | eXtreme | ~lart frig |
| 01:53.56 | Aribeth | ~lart romfis |
| 01:53.57 | frig | :P |
| 01:53.58 | orange | CBG: it's annoying, and worthless to the channel, I saw nobody screaming, but several people nicely asking to stop |
| 01:54.31 | frig | ~lart Aribeth |
| 01:54.34 | CBG | I quote: "NOO!", "OMG", "ouch", etc. |
| 01:54.37 | frig | aww :( |
| 01:54.44 | frig | ooh cool :) |
| 01:54.57 | Aribeth | sry it failed |
| 01:55.00 | Aribeth | lol |
| 01:55.03 | romfis_ | 1515,06http://www.bzflag.at/trillian-irc2.png |
| 01:55.06 | CBG | and also "<frig> yells "AHH, MY EYES!"". |
| 01:55.21 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o orchid] by ChanServ |
| 01:55.22 | Aribeth | ~lart frig |
| 01:55.24 | trepan | romfis_: stop it |
| 01:55.27 | frig | yes, i may have gotten a bit...... extreme |
| 01:55.34 | romfis_ | 1515,00k |
| 01:55.35 | pianoboy3333 | blast007: I only got one blue one |
| 01:55.35 | romfis_ | 1515,00? |
| 01:55.45 | CBG | romfis_: now its pale grey on white. :P |
| 01:55.54 | orchid | romfis_: stop it with the color |
| 01:55.58 | pianoboy3333 | nvr |
| 01:56.01 | frig | thats actually a good color combo |
| 01:56.04 | *** mode/#bzflag [+c] by JBdiGriz |
| 01:56.12 | orange | gracias, JBdiGriz |
| 01:56.22 | Aribeth | thankya |
| 01:56.38 | eXtreme | does tht stop bold too...? |
| 01:56.46 | eXtreme | and underline |
| 01:56.53 | orange | http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml |
| 01:56.54 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o orchid] by orchid |
| 01:56.58 | eXtreme | thx |
| 01:57.01 | JBdiGriz | We have ways of stopping people from annoying others |
| 01:57.26 | Aribeth | yes run |
| 01:57.32 | Aribeth | run fast |
| 02:04.52 | frig | does anybody play bzflag over 56k here? |
| 02:05.01 | frig | over = on |
| 02:06.45 | frig | because when i (56ker) try to play on badgerkings i end up with -50 after 30 minutes of play, and im not sure if its just my lag, or my strategy |
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| 02:09.21 | CBG | SC: you scared romfis away... :P |
| 02:09.39 | SC | me? |
| 02:10.00 | CBG | yes you :P |
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| 02:16.34 | Aribeth | :) |
| 02:16.49 | CBG | ... :| |
| 02:17.06 | Aribeth | ??? |
| 02:21.02 | Aribeth | i was curious what it meant |
| 02:22.15 | spldart | Amazing how easily some of us are entertained/distracted. I've been tinkering with an overclocked mish mosh of parts that ends up as an overclocked PIII 504 running Debian and named "toy" |
| 02:23.04 | spldart | the only drive I had left that could take OC was a fujitsu |
| 02:24.14 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 02:26.57 | CBG | I was curious as to why I didn't get a return hug. :| |
| 02:27.24 | Aribeth | so what is :| |
| 02:27.56 | CBG | :| is :| |
| 02:28.50 | Aribeth | that doent tell me what it stands for, so i assume it means nothing |
| 02:29.30 | CBG | It means I feel empty. Not happy, but not sad. Just... curious. |
| 02:29.42 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 02:32.00 | BzFire | this place is about hugging ? take the silly stuff elsewhere |
| 02:32.30 | CBG | BzFire: this place is my life, and I need some hugging in my life, babes. |
| 02:33.16 | Aribeth | BzFire...its ok to hug once in a while ;) |
| 02:34.20 | BzFire | maybe I am just miserable lol |
| 02:34.50 | CBG | Maybe you have a life outside of bzflag... |
| 02:34.57 | Aribeth | well...shoot some tanks |
| 02:35.05 | BzFire | oh happy birthday CBG. Sorry it is late, i just saw your said it was your birthday yesterday |
| 02:35.15 | CBG | hehe, thanks :) |
| 02:35.15 | BzFire | *you |
| 02:35.25 | CBG | 2 hours 35 minutes late. pff :P |
| 02:35.33 | BzFire | better late than never :) |
| 02:35.57 | CBG | :) |
| 02:37.04 | BzFire | just dont look forward to your 18'th. After that age everything goes downhill |
| 02:37.10 | Aribeth | happy b'day CBG |
| 02:37.18 | CBG | thanks Aribeth :) |
| 02:37.23 | CBG | BzFire: heh, ok ;) |
| 02:37.40 | Aribeth | try 52...its really at the bottom of the gorge then...lol |
| 02:38.24 | BzFire | 52 isn't so bad, I hear after 52 you have so much money you don't know what to do with it lol. If you have that problem I can help you spend it ;) |
| 02:38.29 | JBdiGriz | there was an article about men in their 50's today. It is supposed to be better than your 30's. |
| 02:38.42 | Aribeth | lol....i wish |
| 02:39.08 | Aribeth | no job, bill collecters calling avery day |
| 02:39.23 | BzFire | wow. I hope everything works out for you |
| 02:39.28 | JBdiGriz | What kind of job do you want, and where do you want it? |
| 02:39.36 | Aribeth | i was in IT |
| 02:40.01 | Aribeth | not much IT out here in the boonies |
| 02:40.22 | Aribeth | and i have a bad back and cant lift much |
| 02:40.36 | Aribeth | so thats an interview killer |
| 02:40.38 | BzFire | boonies ? |
| 02:40.53 | Aribeth | Georgia, out in the country |
| 02:40.57 | BzFire | oh |
| 02:41.01 | JBdiGriz | Are you planning on moving to where there is more? IT shouldn't require much lifting. |
| 02:41.17 | orange | Aribeth: country, hehe |
| 02:41.18 | Aribeth | i moved here lasy may |
| 02:41.27 | Aribeth | lol |
| 02:41.50 | Aribeth | i should say housing tract country |
| 02:42.46 | Aribeth | yes orange, a high school is going in just 1/2 mile from here, and a new huge development accros from it |
| 02:43.09 | Aribeth | they chopping it all down here |
| 02:43.12 | orange | I was over that way last weekend... the pace of development continues to astound me |
| 02:43.21 | Aribeth | ya |
| 02:43.27 | Aribeth | and i dont like it |
| 02:44.07 | Aribeth | the whole kelly mill area is changing |
| 02:45.21 | Aribeth | ya it used to be country |
| 02:45.35 | orange | you're right about that |
| 02:45.41 | orange | of course, most of the country used to be country :-) |
| 02:45.51 | Aribeth | im still in the boonies though |
| 02:48.13 | Aribeth | i think cumming may be the next atlanta some day..lol |
| 02:48.38 | Aribeth | or the new atlanta burbs |
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| 03:05.21 | Aston127 | lets hope this works lol |
| 03:05.23 | Aston127 | ~bzfquery 64.90.220.212:5154 |
| 03:05.39 | Aston127 | brb bashing a computer in. |
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| 03:15.44 | nitrosport_5 | could someone give me the 2.1 cvs command please? |
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| 03:33.19 | spldart | you mean cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net?:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P bzflag ??? |
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| 03:33.34 | spldart | - the ? |
| 03:33.40 | mbfg | wow is crs trolling? |
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| 03:51.32 | brlcad | ahh, different list |
| 03:55.42 | brlcad | *gasp* and he's actually promoting OOD |
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| 03:58.22 | mbfg | now if we could only interject a factory pattern |
| 04:02.49 | menotume | McNabb = QB for the Eagles :) |
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| 04:59.02 | brlcad | woot, sold a book |
| 05:11.39 | silverfox | bully for you. |
| 05:11.53 | silverfox | ;) |
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| 05:12.31 | raytek2 | hello every1 |
| 05:13.50 | brlcad | silverfox: indeed! |
| 05:14.47 | brlcad | i have too many books, nice to get rid of the mostly useless ones from time to time and actually get paid for it |
| 05:15.37 | brlcad | rather boring book on UML, but that probably goes with just saying UML |
| 05:23.13 | brlcad | hmm.. can you embed a template<> instead a function? |
| 05:27.14 | purple_cow | UML is indeed boring |
| 05:27.30 | purple_cow | but at this point, trying to decipher what people mean when they *don't* use UML is hard |
| 05:27.39 | purple_cow | which i suppose is the whole point |
| 05:27.51 | brlcad | yeap |
| 05:28.34 | brlcad | a necessary evil in heavy moderation |
| 05:49.45 | mbfg | aww, i thought it was "Brlcad in 24 days" |
| 05:54.32 | Aribeth | lol |
| 05:54.54 | brlcad | hehe |
| 05:55.15 | Aribeth | and who better to write it :) |
| 05:55.21 | mbfg | indeedy |
| 05:55.31 | brlcad | 24 days? can't be done |
| 05:55.36 | Aribeth | hehe |
| 05:55.50 | mbfg | the writing or the reading? |
| 05:55.53 | Aribeth | how about 48 days |
| 05:57.17 | brlcad | hm, that'd be interesting |
| 05:58.58 | brlcad | if you could cover the mged modeler effectively in a week or two, which would be a feat, that'd only leave about 16 programs a day to learn |
| 05:59.08 | brlcad | that might be doable |
| 05:59.23 | Aribeth | ahh |
| 05:59.24 | brlcad | (at 48 days) |
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| 06:15.12 | ubuntubzflag | hi there |
| 06:15.17 | ubuntubzflag | need help please |
| 06:15.23 | brlcad | ubuntubzflag: i'm sorry to hear that |
| 06:15.33 | ubuntubzflag | why |
| 06:15.48 | ubuntubzflag | o.O |
| 06:17.40 | orchid | ubuntubzflag: ask your question, the suspense is killing me |
| 06:17.50 | brlcad | hehe |
| 06:17.56 | orchid | now I will never know :-\ |
| 06:18.07 | Aribeth | its the suspence that gets them |
| 06:19.02 | orange | well, now, brlcad, most people can master ls and cat in a pretty short amount of time |
| 06:19.49 | Aribeth | ahh yes, but can they master awk |
| 06:19.52 | brlcad | orange: yep, simple tools |
| 06:20.22 | orchid | hmm, I don't more than 3 or 4 args to ls |
| 06:20.41 | orchid | it's got too many to remember |
| 06:20.42 | orange | ls -1sSrh |
| 06:20.42 | brlcad | again? :) |
| 06:21.04 | Aribeth | hahahaaa |
| 06:21.21 | brlcad | seriously, it's useful |
| 06:21.22 | orchid | free -tom |
| 06:21.25 | brlcad | and funny |
| 06:21.32 | Aribeth | yep |
| 06:21.37 | Aribeth | yep |
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| 06:23.31 | orange | du -sh DTRemenak |
| 06:24.00 | Aribeth | 459845098505803950 DTRemenak |
| 06:24.02 | orange | slow disks |
| 06:24.52 | brlcad | 1.21PB DTRemenak |
| 06:25.20 | brlcad | buggy du |
| 06:25.26 | Aribeth | lol |
| 06:25.29 | orange | I have seen T but never anything beyond that |
| 06:25.47 | purple_cow | usually when you see beyond that, you have a broken filesystem :) |
| 06:26.17 | orange | you were convenient |
| 06:26.29 | DTRemenak | size isn't everything, you know |
| 06:26.34 | Aribeth | and logged in at the right time |
| 06:27.37 | brlcad | DTRemenak: most people say that when they have too much |
| 06:29.00 | orange | at 1.21PB, you have too much |
| 06:29.20 | DTRemenak | not yet filling up /dev/Earth though |
| 06:34.55 | orange | ssh orange shutdown -h now |
| 06:46.24 | silverfox | DTRemenak, "inode watchers" has a good program. 2 chocolate fscks and a sensible dinner. You should try it. |
| 06:46.33 | DTRemenak | hahaha |
| 06:46.48 | Aribeth | lolololol |
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| 07:05.42 | brlcad | nanoo manuu |
| 07:07.17 | _Manu_ | heh |
| 07:07.21 | _Manu_ | cad brlcad :) |
| 07:12.05 | _Manu_ | I did mean CAD brlcad :/ |
| 07:12.28 | _Manu_ | not the "canalla" cad :) |
| 07:16.52 | brlcad | :) |
| 07:22.25 | _Manu_ | do you know what "canalla" means brlcad :) |
| 07:22.45 | _Manu_ | sometimes it is good when you call it to a friend :) |
| 07:23.32 | brlcad | do you know what "homie" means _Manu_ ? :) |
| 07:23.56 | brlcad | peace playa |
| 07:24.23 | _Manu_ | homie, no, it sounds me like from home :) |
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| 07:24.53 | _Manu_ | canalla means like ganster :) |
| 07:25.01 | brlcad | yep |
| 07:25.27 | _Manu_ | s/ganster/gangster/ |
| 07:25.43 | brlcad | homie is a brotha from da hood, ya know what i'm say'n |
| 07:25.43 | _Manu_ | but applie to a friend usually is good :) |
| 07:25.51 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 07:26.13 | _Manu_ | s/applie/applied/ |
| 07:26.27 | _Manu_ | my fingers are frozzen in the morning :) |
| 07:34.04 | _Manu_ | and my mouth is frozen too |
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| 12:47.15 | huwnet | I managed to get bzadmin to compile properly under VS2005. I am still having the same problems as before when compiling bzfs and bzflag. Heres the forum post: |
| 12:47.15 | huwnet | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:47.15 | huwnet | In the latest CVS the additional dependencies are: |
| 12:47.15 | huwnet | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:47.15 | huwnet | ws2_32.lib |
| 12:47.17 | huwnet | winmm.lib |
| 12:47.19 | huwnet | odbc32.lib |
| 12:47.21 | huwnet | odbccp32.lib |
| 12:47.23 | huwnet | libcurl.lib |
| 12:47.25 | huwnet | |
| 12:47.27 | huwnet | A page in the latest readme.win32 links to a microsoft page aboutintegrating the Platform SDK with VS2005. It talks about editing a fileto add the default dependancies. |
| 12:47.30 | huwnet | For some reason the bzflag vc8 project didn't have some of these additional dependancies. |
| 12:47.32 | huwnet | The additional dependancy line now reads: |
| 12:47.34 | huwnet | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:47.36 | huwnet | ws2_32.lib |
| 12:47.38 | huwnet | winmm.lib |
| 12:47.40 | huwnet | odbc32.lib |
| 12:47.42 | huwnet | odbccp32.lib |
| 12:47.44 | huwnet | libcurl.lib |
| 12:47.46 | huwnet | user32.lib |
| 12:47.48 | huwnet | gdi32.lib |
| 12:47.50 | huwnet | winspool.lib |
| 12:47.52 | huwnet | comdlg32.lib |
| 12:47.54 | huwnet | advapi32.lib |
| 12:47.56 | huwnet | shell32.lib |
| 12:47.58 | huwnet | ole32.lib |
| 12:48.00 | huwnet | oleaut32.lib |
| 12:48.02 | huwnet | uuid.lib |
| 12:48.04 | huwnet | |
| 12:48.06 | huwnet | I am sure that only some of those additonal files are required but adding them does allow bzadmin to compile successfully. |
| 12:49.24 | Birdie | dont paste to much..if you want to show something upload it and give a link pls |
| 12:50.05 | huwnet | Sorry. The original forum link is http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6571 |
| 12:51.09 | Birdie | yea its no offence, just letting you know for next time:) |
| 13:07.34 | huwnet | Interesting. Just added the libs onto bzflag and bzfs as well and they compile fine now as well. :D |
| 13:12.31 | huwnet | do I need NSIS 1 or 2 to make the bzflag installer? |
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| 14:19.47 | romfis | hi |
| 14:20.09 | SportChick | romfis: hiya :) |
| 14:20.14 | CBG | hey |
| 14:20.16 | romfis | hi SC |
| 14:22.54 | gsnedders | hi |
| 14:23.08 | CBG | yo |
| 14:24.40 | gsnedders | CBG, not seen you on BZflag for a while |
| 14:24.52 | gsnedders | but there again, I've not been on so much recently :) |
| 14:24.53 | CBG | gsnedders: amazing. I play all the time. |
| 14:25.25 | CBG | The last 3 or 4 days I have been online all day - except for yesterday when relatuves kept interrupting my playing. |
| 14:26.52 | gsnedders | which servers you playing on nowadays? |
| 14:28.21 | CBG | Mostly GamesUnited. |
| 14:28.37 | CBG | Sometimes at the MoFo servers or ducati too. |
| 14:28.50 | CBG | I'm actually running my own MoFo server for a week. |
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| 16:10.43 | jh` | hi |
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| 17:49.34 | findlay | ~bzcvs |
| 17:49.34 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 17:51.34 | findlay | why does CVS now reject anonymous checkout? |
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| 17:55.45 | blast007 | findlay: let me try it quick |
| 17:56.30 | blast007 | yeah...seems like SF is doing something right now |
| 17:56.37 | blast007 | anon CVS goes down a lot |
| 17:56.48 | findlay | ok |
| 17:57.07 | findlay | thanks |
| 17:57.11 | blast007 | :) |
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| 19:13.23 | SportyGal | TimRiker: hehe, I JUST sent you a memo |
| 19:14.23 | gsnedders | memo-licus |
| 19:15.34 | TimRiker | ibot: literal cmd: hug (.*?) |
| 19:15.34 | ibot | "cmd: hug (.*?)" is "($1): <action>hugs $1" |
| 19:15.42 | TimRiker | ibot: hug SportyGal |
| 19:15.48 | TimRiker | hmm. |
| 19:16.15 | SportyGal | TimRiker: see? |
| 19:16.22 | SportyGal | he does ~lart just fine |
| 19:16.26 | SportyGal | but nothing else |
| 19:17.35 | gsnedders | ~lart gsnedders |
| 19:17.52 | SportyGal | ~cookies TimRiker |
| 19:17.55 | SportyGal | :( |
| 19:18.56 | gsnedders | w00t |
| 19:19.54 | SportyGal | ~lart ibot :( |
| 19:20.38 | CBG | Would it help to have a space between '<action>' and 'hugs'? |
| 19:20.50 | TimRiker | hmm. config and all seems fine. time to cycle. |
| 19:20.53 | TimRiker | ibot: die |
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| 19:23.02 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/bb/ || http://my.BZFlag.org/ || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/Download || #bzchat for casual chat || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is now 2.1 unstable, commit stable to v2_0branch |
| 19:23.03 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 19:23.13 | SportyGal | ~cookies TimRiker |
| 19:23.15 | ibot | ACTION hands TimRiker a nice, steaming chocolate chip cookie, hot from the oven |
| 19:23.15 | TimRiker | ibot: hug SportyGal |
| 19:23.17 | ibot | ACTION hugs SportyGal |
| 19:23.20 | SportyGal | :( |
| 19:23.29 | SportyGal | yay! |
| 19:23.40 | TimRiker | give em a minute he's still logging into a ton of channels. |
| 19:23.49 | SportyGal | ~TimRiker++ |
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| 19:25.56 | BzFire | ~seen menotume |
| 19:25.59 | ibot | menotume is currently on #dub #silvercat #bz-inc #bzflag #kierra #bzleague, last said: 'ahhh yes'. |
| 19:26.06 | findlay | ~bzfrag SportyGal |
| 19:26.07 | ibot | ACTION blindsides SportyGal with an invisible bullet |
| 19:26.44 | TimRiker | ibot: chaninfo |
| 19:26.44 | ibot | I'm on 67 channels: #/10, ##ace/20, #aegis/3, #asterisk/356, #asterisk-doc/8, #botpark/20, #brlcad/11, #byumug/5, #bz-inc/13, #bzflag/59, #bzleague/22, #casualti/10, #classiccmp/26, #creativeforum/5, #debian/837, #debian-bots/22, #debian-br/64, #debian-france/10, #debianppc/41, #dub/8, #edev/23, #elinux/47, #elive/32, #familiar/28, #flyspray/10, #fossfund/2, ... |
| 19:26.44 | ibot | i've cached 2922 users, 2245 unique users, distributed over 67 channels. |
| 19:27.02 | gsnedders | couple of channels... |
| 19:27.13 | TimRiker | heh |
| 19:27.19 | CBG | Only 67? Bah... Hardly a record. :P |
| 19:27.25 | gsnedders | :P |
| 19:28.06 | SportyGal | ~chocolate findlay |
| 19:28.07 | ibot | hands findlay 2 pounds of the best Belgian chocolate, 3 pounds of the best Swiss chocolate and a gift certificate for 100 pounds of whatever other chocolate findlay might want |
| 19:28.51 | CBG | :o |
| 19:29.24 | gsnedders | he's on cholocate :o |
| 19:30.29 | Aribeth | ummmmm chocolate |
| 19:31.15 | Aribeth | its a food group |
| 19:32.16 | SportyGal | Aribeth: hehe |
| 19:32.19 | findlay | ~bzfrag chocolate |
| 19:32.20 | ibot | ACTION makes chocolate feel the effects of a shockwave |
| 19:33.11 | Aribeth | CBG now glows in the dark |
| 19:39.55 | *** join/#bzflag randomparticle (n=502abfa6@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 19:40.15 | randomparticle | hi |
| 19:40.51 | randomparticle | is there the slightest possibility of a dev being here? |
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| 19:42.06 | SportyGal | randomparticle: hiya!! |
| 19:42.23 | randomparticle | hi sporty! |
| 19:42.30 | MNHCBG | randomparticle: hmm, define slightest possibility. ;) |
| 19:42.56 | randomparticle | am trying to get some info to a dev. i have a correction to the bzflag build setup to give them |
| 19:43.21 | SportyGal | randomparticle: what OS? |
| 19:43.33 | randomparticle | OS X for Intel Macs |
| 19:43.50 | randomparticle | the current Xcode project does not work correctly |
| 19:44.10 | SportyGal | randomparticle: probably talk to brlcad/learner, then |
| 19:44.10 | randomparticle | a copy script needs amending |
| 19:44.36 | randomparticle | do they have an email address? |
| 19:44.42 | randomparticle | they never seem to be here when i am |
| 19:44.46 | SportyGal | try memoserv |
| 19:44.51 | randomparticle | what's that? |
| 19:45.04 | SportyGal | type /ms send brlcad "message" where "message" is whatever you want to tell him |
| 19:45.26 | randomparticle | hmm... how can i be sure it will work? |
| 19:45.33 | randomparticle | i'm using the web interface again |
| 19:46.11 | SportyGal | randomparticle: you'll get a confirmation, saying "memo sent" or some such thing |
| 19:46.21 | findlay | SportyGal: freenode won't let non registered nicks to send PMs |
| 19:46.34 | SportyGal | findlay: I think randomparticle is registered |
| 19:46.42 | randomparticle | i think this one is reg'd, but i'm not 100% sure about that |
| 19:46.54 | findlay | yes, but you have to log in |
| 19:46.58 | SportyGal | randomparticle: you are - and you are identified |
| 19:47.04 | SportyGal | findlay: he is already identified |
| 19:47.13 | randomparticle | if i send a bzmessage to meno... perhaps he would forward it? |
| 19:47.17 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.24 | randomparticle | he's a dev too, yes? |
| 19:48.06 | SportyGal | randomparticle: you could do that, but it's easier to just record here - or just send a pm to brlcad with all the info and when he's around, he'll read it |
| 19:48.12 | randomparticle | would be nice to get this fixed or other people will struggle in vain to compile bzflag |
| 19:48.27 | randomparticle | the message will be several lines long |
| 19:48.52 | randomparticle | i can edit a message of some length here? |
| 19:49.13 | SportyGal | randomparticle: just do it this way: /msg brlcad and then type what you want to say |
| 19:49.24 | SportyGal | it's faster, and he won't have to read the memo |
| 19:50.00 | randomparticle | i can move from line to line and edit it? |
| 19:50.11 | randomparticle | or do i have to type that for each line and send them singly? |
| 19:50.14 | *** part/#bzflag zee606 (n=d84465f1@zeebrothers.net) |
| 19:50.19 | DTRemenak | randomparticle: email brlcad@users.sf.net |
| 19:50.28 | SportyGal | DTRemenak: thanks! :) |
| 19:50.30 | randomparticle | ok. thank you dtr |
| 19:50.34 | DTRemenak | whoops, that was supposed to be a /msg |
| 19:51.41 | SportyGal | DTRemenak: hehe |
| 19:51.47 | SportyGal | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 19:51.48 | DTRemenak | I'd offer to check it in for you, but brlcad would have to review it eventually anyway :) |
| 19:52.20 | randomparticle | i'm not sure he's using the latest Xcode. that may be the problem for us intel-macheads |
| 19:52.43 | DTRemenak | I have a vague idea that xcode is some ide. that's how clueless I am ;) |
| 19:52.57 | randomparticle | it is. give me a command-line anyday :) |
| 19:54.18 | DTRemenak | aww, lurking again... |
| 19:54.41 | findlay | ~hug SportyGal |
| 19:54.43 | ibot | ACTION hugs SportyGal |
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| 19:54.43 | randomparticle | i've just tried out the cvs of bzflag. quite nice, i must say. not quite sure what's new, but i like the lego-themed server |
| 19:56.54 | DTRemenak | NEWS (on head) or ChangeLog (on v2_0branch) has a list of recent changes |
| 19:57.04 | randomparticle | k. tx |
| 19:58.48 | randomparticle | goodbye! |
| 19:58.53 | DTRemenak | c'ya |
| 19:59.44 | DTRemenak | ~SportyGal++ |
| 19:59.51 | SportyGal | ? |
| 19:59.54 | SportyGal | what did I do? |
| 20:00.07 | DTRemenak | you were helpful :) |
| 20:00.09 | CBG17 | What didn't you do? |
| 20:00.15 | DTRemenak | and I haven't given you karma in a long time :) |
| 20:00.16 | SportyGal | ~lart CBG17 |
| 20:00.22 | SportyGal | DTRemenak: awww, ty |
| 20:00.35 | CBG17 | cluebat! cool :D |
| 20:01.15 | Tupone | ~SportyChick++ |
| 20:02.01 | Tupone | ~SportChick++ |
| 20:02.14 | Tupone | that is better |
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| 20:10.12 | pianoboy3333 | Is there a way that you could host a bzflag server with another companies server? |
| 20:10.18 | pianoboy3333 | *company's |
| 20:11.06 | pianoboy3333 | Like, if I have an in motion hosting website, could I run bzfs on that? |
| 20:12.01 | CBG17 | pianoboy3333: Not really... |
| 20:12.17 | pianoboy3333 | kk |
| 20:12.18 | CBG17 | Most web hosts won't let you run bzfs, methinks. |
| 20:13.43 | BzFire | you can if they give u telnet/ssh access |
| 20:13.46 | pianoboy3333 | Couldn't you put all the bzflag files on the server, then start some sort of ssh client to make a terminal in the in motion hosting server and start bzfs |
| 20:13.48 | pianoboy3333 | Right |
| 20:13.59 | pianoboy3333 | Hmmm... I'll look into that..... |
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| 20:14.07 | BzFire | most webservers will let you |
| 20:14.20 | CBG17 | o.O |
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| 20:21.48 | purple_cow | CBG17: blame C++! |
| 20:22.38 | CBG17 | Still going... Must have been 20mins now... 1.2GHz may not be lightening fast, but... :/ |
| 20:24.14 | findlay | CBG17: gcc-4 has some significant C++ compile time improvements |
| 20:24.19 | findlay | (: |
| 20:24.32 | CBG17 | gcc-4..? |
| 20:25.19 | findlay | that is if you're compiling bzflag with gcc |
| 20:26.18 | CBG17 | I'm just doing a regular ./configure then make |
| 20:26.57 | findlay | you can type 'gcc --version' to find out what version of gcc you have |
| 20:27.29 | CBG17 | 3.3 :( |
| 20:27.33 | findlay | gcc is what does the dirty work of translating source code into object code |
| 20:27.39 | CBG17 | I see. |
| 20:27.42 | findlay | what distro? |
| 20:27.51 | CBG17 | Max OS X |
| 20:27.54 | CBG17 | MAC* |
| 20:27.54 | findlay | oh |
| 20:28.09 | CBG17 | I'm too dumb to use lInux. :D |
| 20:29.04 | CBG17 | I could download gcc-4 somewhere, perhaps? |
| 20:31.37 | findlay | don't know |
| 20:31.40 | findlay | probably |
| 20:32.02 | findlay | are you using the stock gcc that comes with OS X |
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| 20:32.19 | CBG17 | What with the what what? |
| 20:32.54 | CBG17 | at gcc.gnu.org it says: The version of GCC shipped by Apple typically includes a number of extensions not available in a standard GCC release. These extensions are generally for backwards compatibility and best avoided. |
| 20:38.03 | findlay | CBG17: my mac experience is severly limited. I know you can install fink and from that install a copy of gcc-4, but if I reccommended you to do that, people may scream "foul" over fink |
| 20:38.26 | findlay | I think it's pretty good though |
| 20:38.37 | CBG17 | findlay: Ok, it has finished anyway... |
| 20:38.44 | CBG17 | with errors again. :/ bleh! |
| 20:39.13 | findlay | altogether though, upgrading your compiler is usually a non trivial task |
| 20:39.49 | CBG17 | findlay: hah. For the average user, perhaps. ;) |
| 20:40.21 | gsnedders | CBG17, what version of OS X |
| 20:40.27 | CBG17 | 10.3.9 |
| 20:40.40 | CBG17 | I'm getting Tiger in a few days though, I hope. |
| 20:40.51 | CBG17 | So probably not worth to upgrade stuff till after that. |
| 20:41.07 | gsnedders | GCC4 has far better PPC compiling |
| 20:41.11 | gsnedders | the code is more optimised |
| 20:41.16 | gsnedders | = more FPS |
| 20:41.22 | gsnedders | as for upgrading, I dunno |
| 20:41.23 | CBG17 | gsnedders: Mayeb it will come with Tiger..? |
| 20:41.45 | gsnedders | CBG17, 3.3 and 4.0 come with Tiger |
| 20:41.56 | CBG17 | maybe*. But if Not - I can sort it out afterwards anyway. |
| 20:42.01 | CBG17 | Ah, cool. :) |
| 20:42.53 | findlay | ~praise gcc4 |
| 20:42.58 | ibot | All hail gcc4! |
| 20:43.05 | findlay | ibot: thanks |
| 20:43.05 | ibot | findlay: sure thing |
| 20:43.26 | CBG17 | ~lart make |
| 20:43.57 | BzFire | I need to find a coder willing to edit the bzfs code for me to do /record along with /countdown (to record matches) is anyone here nice enough ? |
| 20:45.08 | findlay | BzFire: I could look at when I have time, but I'm no pro |
| 20:45.59 | CBG17 | Can someone look at my make errors please? http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/42812 |
| 20:46.30 | CBG17 | the last 10 lines or so seem to suggest the source of the problem. |
| 20:46.46 | BzFire | findlay: that would be great thanks. I dont think it will be very hard. But then again i don't code. But what i need is: when you do /countdown .. for it to automatcially do /record start .. and when the countdown finishes to do /record save (and somehow get a filename) |
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| 20:54.43 | JeffM2501 | CBG17, you don't have isnan |
| 20:55.10 | CBG17 | JeffM2501: Okies. I can download that? |
| 20:55.19 | JeffM2501 | what platform are you on? |
| 20:55.34 | JeffM2501 | isnan should be part of the standard C math libs |
| 20:55.36 | CBG17 | OS X |
| 20:55.43 | JeffM2501 | did it used to work? |
| 20:55.44 | CBG17 | mac 10.3.9 |
| 20:56.45 | JeffM2501 | is this the first time your building? |
| 20:57.00 | CBG17 | JeffM2501: First time in a while. |
| 20:57.12 | CBG17 | Must be 6months since I used to do it - when I used to work. |
| 20:57.23 | CBG17 | But I was on 10.3 then too, methinks. |
| 20:58.08 | JeffM2501 | what version of BZ? |
| 20:58.22 | CBG17 | The 2.0 branch. |
| 20:58.28 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 20:58.34 | CBG17 | I used to get 2.0.3 CVS - that workes. |
| 20:58.37 | CBG17 | worked* |
| 20:58.40 | JeffM2501 | and you ran autogen and config? |
| 20:58.59 | CBG17 | yeah. ./autogen.sh then ./configue then make |
| 20:59.05 | JeffM2501 | dono then |
| 20:59.11 | CBG17 | bleh. :( |
| 20:59.17 | JeffM2501 | I would think you should have isnan |
| 20:59.28 | CBG17 | hmm |
| 20:59.41 | CBG17 | Was it needed for 2.0.3? |
| 20:59.48 | JeffM2501 | don't know |
| 20:59.59 | JeffM2501 | it may not have been used then |
| 21:00.04 | CBG17 | k |
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| 21:04.13 | CBG17 | I don't see an obvious "download isnan" site and there's no isnan page on the wiki. :( |
| 21:04.58 | JeffM2501 | dude |
| 21:05.01 | JeffM2501 | it's NOT a lib |
| 21:05.04 | JeffM2501 | it's not somethign you download |
| 21:05.14 | CBG17 | Ok... |
| 21:05.23 | CBG17 | Then, what can I do? |
| 21:06.14 | JeffM2501 | it's a function in your standard C |
| 21:06.25 | JeffM2501 | it sounds like your apple libs just don't have it |
| 21:06.38 | JeffM2501 | and the code will have to be changed to use what ever apple uses in place of it |
| 21:06.42 | JeffM2501 | basicly you wait |
| 21:06.47 | CBG17 | Ok. fine. |
| 21:07.27 | trepan | actually, std::isnan() is being called (not ANSI C++), isnan() is C99 |
| 21:07.27 | JeffM2501 | tho I'm prety sure I've built on my mac under 10.4 |
| 21:07.37 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 21:07.44 | trepan | waiting for brlcad to do some config magic for the mac'ers |
| 21:07.47 | JeffM2501 | well he ain't got what's being called |
| 21:08.07 | JeffM2501 | he may not do the magic, as I think 10.4 has the std one |
| 21:08.58 | JeffM2501 | CBG17, install linux, that'll fix it ;) |
| 21:09.11 | CBG17 | JeffM2501: Yeah. Right. :) |
| 21:09.18 | JeffM2501 | it will have the function |
| 21:09.44 | JeffM2501 | every time a windows user has a problem like that, mac users say "get a mac", so turnabout is fair play :) |
| 21:10.30 | CBG17 | Sure. And I have no gripes with Linux - I just dont have the patience to install it and use it when I have OS X here to go and am lovin' it. :) |
| 21:11.11 | JeffM2501 | well your on old OSX anyway |
| 21:11.19 | JeffM2501 | so at some point it'll stop working |
| 21:11.32 | CBG17 | Yeah. I'm hoping to get Tiger within a week. |
| 21:11.43 | CBG17 | That'll work then? |
| 21:11.59 | JeffM2501 | IIRC 10.4 has newer std:: stuff |
| 21:12.03 | JeffM2501 | so I think so |
| 21:12.07 | CBG17 | W00t. |
| 21:12.08 | JeffM2501 | I haven't built on my mac in a while tho |
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| 21:23.33 | gsnedders | I compiled 2.0.5 today |
| 21:23.39 | gsnedders | so yeah, it works |
| 21:24.05 | CBG17 | gsnedders: what OS? |
| 21:24.05 | gsnedders | 10.4.5 |
| 21:25.18 | gsnedders | + Xcode 2.2.1 |
| 21:25.19 | Guu` | gsnedders: WTF mate? |
| 21:25.27 | gsnedders | Guu`, ? |
| 21:25.28 | Guu` | I don't know. |
| 21:25.53 | gsnedders | why the fuck did he just do that? :) |
| 21:27.50 | DTRemenak | please be more careful with your word choice, gsnedders |
| 21:28.22 | CBG17 | gsnedders: because you used the + symbol... |
| 21:28.31 | gsnedders | ah |
| 21:29.31 | CBG17 | +test |
| 21:29.32 | Guu` | CBG17: WTF mate? |
| 21:29.35 | CBG17 | :) |
| 21:29.38 | gsnedders | DTRemenak, I'm used to places where if it's allowed as part of an acronym, it's allowed in full |
| 21:30.32 | DTRemenak | gsnedders: I'd have said the same thing if you'd have used it in an acronymn ;) Guu` has no excuse either, but telling him about it doesn't do any good :) |
| 21:30.43 | gsnedders | :) |
| 21:30.54 | findlay | Guu` actually means Where's the Team Flag? |
| 21:30.54 | Guu` | I have no idea, findlay. |
| 21:30.56 | gsnedders | why not? :P |
| 21:31.05 | DTRemenak | findlay: :) |
| 21:37.01 | JeffM2501 | yay |
| 21:38.10 | trepan | setup to allow current state queries as well, much easier to do local workarounds |
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| 22:42.23 | PuMpErNiCkLe | dammit... I could almost _swear_ there's a "punish" flag that makes you always spawn in suicidal spots |
| 22:44.10 | trepan | it isn't a flag, it's based on the md5 hash for your callsign and gettimeofday() |
| 22:45.13 | findlay | (: |
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| 22:59.45 | brlcad | oooh, trepan gutting OpenGLGState.. that's gotta be dangerous ;) |
| 23:00.42 | JeffM2501 | 2.0.5 the version that never ends |
| 23:00.48 | JeffM2501 | it goes on and on my friend |
| 23:00.49 | CBG17 | hah |
| 23:00.59 | menotume | welcome to the show |
| 23:01.09 | orchid | Ten guys were trying to win a woman's favor, each by using a play on words. No pun in ten did. |
| 23:01.20 | menotume | yuk |
| 23:01.30 | orchid | heh |
| 23:01.34 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 23:01.43 | DTRemenak | :) |
| 23:01.53 | JeffM2501 | orchid, if you ever do get a mac for your display, you will want to get "synergy" |
| 23:02.29 | orchid | what is that? a program? |
| 23:02.29 | brlcad | JeffM2501: isnan is a known issue with current on 10.3 |
| 23:02.35 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 23:02.51 | JeffM2501 | orchid, it lets you use a keyboard and mouse on one comptuer, and over the network use it on another |
| 23:03.01 | orchid | oh yeah right |
| 23:03.02 | brlcad | 10.3's gcc doesn't have the std::isnan() gcc extension, 10.4's gcc does |
| 23:03.04 | JeffM2501 | so you can swap input and use one keyboard/mouse |
| 23:03.06 | JeffM2501 | it's GREAT |
| 23:03.22 | SportyGal | orchid: booo |
| 23:03.26 | orchid | it's in debian I belive too, never tried it |
| 23:03.30 | orchid | hey SportyGal |
| 23:03.43 | CBG17 | so, It _will_ work if/when I get Tiger? Garuanteed? |
| 23:03.55 | CBG17 | or even Guaranteed?... |
| 23:04.04 | brlcad | i tried a test for isnan, but it was giving me a false positive. i.e. the configure test fails, but the code in place then conflicts with the system isnan, or something like that -- it was a couple weeks ago |
| 23:04.50 | JeffM2501 | CBG17, you'll find out when you try |
| 23:04.59 | CBG17 | I guess. :) |
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| 23:06.27 | brlcad | CBG17: you can make a few edits and get it to work if you really want |
| 23:06.40 | brlcad | the simple fix is to remove the std:: from all the std::isnan uses |
| 23:06.44 | CBG17 | brlcad: Sure, if you're not to busy to help me do it. |
| 23:06.56 | brlcad | i am too busy to help you do it |
| 23:06.58 | CBG17 | brlcad: how many different files is that...? |
| 23:07.02 | brlcad | i said YOU can do it ;) |
| 23:07.19 | DTRemenak | CBG17: two |
| 23:07.33 | CBG17 | DTRemenak: Oh, sounds easy. Which files? |
| 23:07.37 | DTRemenak | use grep |
| 23:07.44 | DTRemenak | i don't remember |
| 23:08.37 | DTRemenak | you have man, right? |
| 23:08.51 | CBG17 | man? |
| 23:08.56 | DTRemenak | man |
| 23:09.05 | PuMpErNiCkLe | I have dude symlinked to man... |
| 23:09.15 | CBG17 | DTRemenak: this could end up being a VERY long conversation... ;) |
| 23:09.29 | DTRemenak | CBG: go to your commandline and type "man man" without the quotes |
| 23:09.41 | DTRemenak | that'll tell you about man |
| 23:09.51 | CBG17 | ok :) |
| 23:09.52 | DTRemenak | then do "man grep", and that'll tell you about grep! |
| 23:10.21 | findlay | grep stands for g/re/p/ |
| 23:10.32 | DTRemenak | and any time someone says "use such-and-such command-line tool" you can go type "man such-and-such command-line tool" and it will tell you what it does |
| 23:10.40 | DTRemenak | instead of asking them |
| 23:10.46 | findlay | global/regular expression/print |
| 23:10.56 | brlcad | man DTRemenak |
| 23:10.57 | CBG17 | DTRemenak: sure. thanks. |
| 23:11.08 | findlay | ~man ibot |
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| 23:19.55 | SportyGal | ~menotume++ |
| 23:20.38 | DTRemenak | brlcad: DTRemenak(7). NAME: DTRemenak. SYNOPSIS: dtremenak [-aAcdfGiO] [-v[v]|-q[q]] [-C:program] [-s:time] [-xXyYzZ] [-pwe]. DESCRIPTION: TODO. Patches welcome. ENVIRONMENT: California, the land of Fruits and Nuts. EXIT STATUS: Unknown. Program has never successfully exited. AUTHOR: God, Bozo and others. SEE ALSO: kill. BUGS: Unfortunately, most of this program's behavior is unpredictable. |
| 23:20.58 | SportyGal | orchid: booo |
| 23:21.01 | SportyGal | ~menotume++ |
| 23:21.42 | CBG17 | So much karma for meno :o |
| 23:21.48 | SportyGal | ~menotume++ |
| 23:21.51 | DTRemenak | ~orchid++ |
| 23:22.25 | CBG17 | better counter balance it a bit...: |
| 23:22.25 | CBG17 | ~menotume-- |
| 23:22.26 | CBG17 | :D hehe |
| 23:22.26 | DTRemenak | ~CBG-- |
| 23:22.26 | Tupone | ~orchid++ |
| 23:23.21 | CBG17 | DTRemenak: I think I will be minus now ;) |
| 23:23.21 | DTRemenak | ~karma CBG |
| 23:23.21 | ibot | cbg has karma of 4 |
| 23:23.21 | SportyGal | ~orchid++ |
| 23:23.21 | SportyGal | ~menotume++ |
| 23:23.22 | DTRemenak | ~botsnack |
| 23:23.22 | ibot | DTRemenak: aw, gee |
| 23:23.22 | BzFire | hmm |
| 23:23.22 | findlay | ~karma findlay |
| 23:23.22 | ibot | findlay has karma of 2 |
| 23:23.22 | DTRemenak | ibot: are you broken? |
| 23:23.25 | DTRemenak | ~lart ibot |
| 23:23.29 | DTRemenak | ahh, there it goes |
| 23:23.30 | CBG17 | wow...4... |
| 23:23.34 | brlcad | DTRemenak: heh |
| 23:23.36 | DTRemenak | eek! |
| 23:24.32 | SportyGal | hehe |
| 23:26.41 | SportyGal | ~karma menotume |
| 23:26.41 | ibot | menotume has karma of 107 |
| 23:26.51 | DTRemenak | ~karma SportyGal |
| 23:26.51 | ibot | sportygal has karma of 6 |
| 23:26.53 | CBG17 | lol |
| 23:26.57 | DTRemenak | ~karma SportChick |
| 23:26.57 | ibot | sportchick has karma of 128 |
| 23:27.02 | CBG17 | :o |
| 23:27.08 | DTRemenak | ~karma SC |
| 23:27.08 | ibot | sc has neutral karma |
| 23:27.18 | SportyGal | ~karma SportChicky |
| 23:27.18 | ibot | sportchicky has neutral karma |
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| 23:28.45 | CBG17 | so DTRemenak I can see how to use grep to search for std::isnan in a specific files, but there must be hundreds in the bzflag dir... |
| 23:29.00 | DTRemenak | feed it wildcards |
| 23:29.02 | SportyGal | ~karma DTRemenak |
| 23:29.02 | ibot | dtremenak has karma of 140 |
| 23:29.02 | DTRemenak | use -R |
| 23:29.07 | SportyGal | nice, dtr!! |
| 23:29.32 | CBG17 | so get it to search for std::isnan in /bzflag/* ? |
| 23:29.51 | CBG17 | the man doesnt mention a -R option. :/ |
| 23:29.57 | DTRemenak | -r |
| 23:30.05 | DTRemenak | shift got the better of me |
| 23:30.24 | CBG17 | no -r option either... |
| 23:30.38 | DTRemenak | eh? |
| 23:31.16 | DTRemenak | -r, --recursive: Read all files under each directory, recursively; this is equivalent to the -d recurse option. |
| 23:31.48 | CBG17 | ooh, ok. |
| 23:32.04 | CBG17 | It seems there is more of the man file that you can only see by pressing "e" :) |
| 23:32.19 | DTRemenak | page up/down ought to scroll the manpage |
| 23:32.41 | CBG17 | Heh, that too. Thanks. |
| 23:32.45 | DTRemenak | "grep -r isnan bzflag/" will find all instances of isnan in the bzflag directory |
| 23:33.03 | JBdiGriz | find ./bzflag -type f -print | xargs grep isnan |
| 23:34.05 | CBG17 | thank you very much. :) |
| 23:40.01 | CBG17 | Okay. I changed all instances of std::isnan to just isnan (only 2 and both in the one file...). Now I re ./configure then make ? |
| 23:42.16 | DTRemenak | shouldn't need to configure again |
| 23:42.19 | DTRemenak | but whatever |
| 23:45.05 | CBG17 | I'll just make then. |
| 23:47.31 | findlay | DTRemenak: osx has bsd toolset which may or may not be equivalent to gnu tools |
| 23:47.58 | DTRemenak | findlay: I'm comparing it to my Dragonfly system. not much gnu there either. ;) |
| 23:47.59 | CBG17 | Hmm, I still get make errors. I checked: grep -r std::isnan bzflag/ brings up nothing... |
| 23:48.34 | CBG17 | I would need to do the same thing with occurrences of "std::string" perhaps...? |
| 23:48.35 | DTRemenak | what errors do you get? |
| 23:50.15 | CBG17 | DTRemenak: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/42840 |
| 23:50.54 | DTRemenak | is <cmath> included in that file? |
| 23:51.12 | CBG17 | I have no idea. |
| 23:51.17 | DTRemenak | ... |
| 23:51.41 | CBG17 | What is <cmath> ? |
| 23:51.46 | DTRemenak | a header |
| 23:52.02 | DTRemenak | does CommandsImplementation.cxx have an "#include <cmath>" line? |
| 23:52.26 | CBG17 | I shall look. |
| 23:52.50 | DTRemenak | if so, then there's probably some crazy protection around the isnan definition in cmath, and you'll need to talk to someone who knows your system (like...brlcad) to see what it is. could be a C99 define is required or something. |
| 23:53.13 | DTRemenak | if not, then add it |
| 23:53.42 | CBG17 | Yes #include <cmath> is included in the file. |
| 23:54.01 | DTRemenak | talk to brlcad then :P |
| 23:54.08 | CBG17 | Great. :D |
| 23:54.12 | CBG17 | Thanks anyway dude. |
| 23:54.15 | DTRemenak | np |
| 23:54.19 | CBG17 | ~DTRemenak++ |
| 23:54.30 | DTRemenak | ~CBG++ |
| 23:54.46 | CBG17 | o.O |
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| 23:54.56 | DTRemenak | for being polite, and cause I subtracted one from you earlier :) |
| 23:56.18 | CBG17 | W00t. :D |
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