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| 01:43.05 | TD-Linux | are the SF cvs servers down again? |
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| 01:44.17 | TD-Linux | ahh... something was just really messed up, that's all :) |
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| 02:42.22 | argiopeweb | Hey folks. Anyone have any info on why CVS isn't up? |
| 02:43.51 | CBG | It is not up, because it is down. |
| 02:43.53 | CBG | :) |
| 02:44.07 | argiopeweb | Ah, knowledge is wonderful. |
| 02:44.13 | blast007 | ;) |
| 02:44.15 | BzFire | is it ever up ? sf.net need to get a better system admin |
| 02:44.24 | blast007 | SF just has issues with stuff |
| 02:44.32 | argiopeweb | That's the truth. |
| 02:44.51 | CBG | argiopeweb: Well, one can only come to such conclusions with suck wisdom, after having been in this channel for more than 2 and a half days, non-stop. |
| 02:45.18 | BzFire | suck wisdom must be good |
| 02:45.22 | argiopeweb | Good place, bad support. |
| 02:45.35 | argiopeweb | I see your point. |
| 02:45.55 | argiopeweb | Reasons that I don't frequient the IRC channel. |
| 02:45.57 | CBG | suck? bah... |
| 02:46.14 | BzFire | you did a typo :) |
| 02:46.44 | argiopeweb | I currently just wish I could decipher some of the source code. That stuff gets cryptic. And I'm a programmer! |
| 02:47.45 | CBG | BzFire: Yeah... |
| 02:47.50 | argiopeweb | I used to have no problems with CVS. But for the past week I haven't been able to do anything with it. |
| 02:48.10 | trepan | is there any reason to keep SNAPPING ? |
| 02:48.35 | CBG | trepan: pardon? |
| 02:48.56 | argiopeweb | Does Not Compute... |
| 02:49.31 | trepan | most of my text here is directed towards the devs |
| 02:50.06 | argiopeweb | How is CVS being down affecting developing? |
| 02:50.09 | CBG | trepan: ok ok :) |
| 02:50.21 | A_Meteorite | I'm already confused. :P |
| 02:51.23 | CBG | A_Meteorite: It's not difficult to confuse most people... |
| 02:51.35 | CBG | You just randomly ask how their fish was... |
| 02:51.44 | A_Meteorite | CBG: I'm an easily confused person ;) |
| 02:51.46 | CBG | What colour their toes are today... |
| 02:51.51 | A_Meteorite | hehe |
| 02:51.56 | CBG | and hoe well their penguins are... |
| 02:51.59 | CBG | how* |
| 02:52.04 | argiopeweb | Or is it? |
| 02:53.14 | argiopeweb | My penguins got browned out today, but their fine now. |
| 02:53.20 | argiopeweb | they're* |
| 02:53.32 | A_Meteorite | I didn't color my toes today |
| 02:53.35 | A_Meteorite | but then again I never do |
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| 02:55.31 | argiopeweb | A_Meteorite: What was that map that you used to have that had lots of deadly spots around the middle, and on a platform up top? |
| 02:55.47 | A_Meteorite | Ummm... |
| 02:56.11 | A_Meteorite | I don't remember such a map. :| |
| 02:56.21 | argiopeweb | You and I messed around with the settings on it one day. It was bad ass. Neat map. |
| 02:56.36 | A_Meteorite | Hmmm... |
| 02:56.41 | A_Meteorite | You sure it was my server? |
| 02:56.46 | argiopeweb | Pretty sure. |
| 02:56.52 | purple_cow | ~decks |
| 02:56.54 | ibot | i heard decks is http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/decks.html |
| 02:56.59 | A_Meteorite | Is this your callsign you use on BZFlag? |
| 02:57.05 | argiopeweb | No. |
| 02:57.09 | A_Meteorite | 'Cause sometimes names helps me remember. |
| 02:57.18 | argiopeweb | Think CrazyMe |
| 02:57.33 | A_Meteorite | Hmmm... I don't remember, must of been a long time ago? |
| 02:57.41 | A_Meteorite | I come across a LOT of players. ;) |
| 02:58.03 | argiopeweb | I think I was using 2.0.2 at the time, so it was probably June '05. |
| 02:58.15 | A_Meteorite | Heh, yeah, that's a long time ago |
| 02:58.25 | A_Meteorite | Oh, did it have rocks? |
| 02:58.41 | A_Meteorite | That was the map I was playing around then |
| 02:58.50 | A_Meteorite | It was BIYA's... |
| 02:59.07 | A_Meteorite | "WarZone Reloaded" I think |
| 02:59.28 | A_Meteorite | Yup, that must be it. |
| 02:59.31 | argiopeweb | I don't think so. It was a CTF map with a large wall seperating the sides, and a box teleport in the center. Inside the box was a bunch of orange-black striped danger area. |
| 02:59.52 | A_Meteorite | Oh! That is BinarySpike's map |
| 02:59.55 | argiopeweb | And then it had a building type platform up top. |
| 03:00.04 | argiopeweb | With a small danger wall inside. |
| 03:00.10 | A_Meteorite | That's his map |
| 03:00.33 | argiopeweb | Okay. I'll have to find that again. It was neat. Was it on your server? |
| 03:00.47 | A_Meteorite | I think I played it once, but Binary plays it a lot |
| 03:00.57 | A_Meteorite | (play = serve) |
| 03:01.13 | A_Meteorite | It probably wasn't on mine at that time |
| 03:01.18 | A_Meteorite | I only remember hosting it once |
| 03:01.29 | argiopeweb | I don't think it was Binary who I messed around with, but it could have been. |
| 03:01.37 | argiopeweb | When was that? |
| 03:01.39 | A_Meteorite | I am an admin at his server. :) |
| 03:01.53 | A_Meteorite | He doesn't mind me changing a few things... ;) |
| 03:02.08 | A_Meteorite | Well, I got to go, it's dinner-time. Cya later! |
| 03:03.24 | CBG | Dinner time? It's 3 AM here. :P |
| 03:03.39 | CBG | I wish it was dinner time again though. Or breakfast. |
| 03:05.23 | argiopeweb | Oh, so it could have been you after all... |
| 03:05.23 | argiopeweb | What a mixed up situation! :) |
| 03:05.23 | argiopeweb | And speaking of servers, what are the hardware/network stats on yours? |
| 03:05.33 | argiopeweb | Bye! |
| 03:05.47 | argiopeweb | What in the name of all things holy are you doing up chatting at 3AM? |
| 03:08.56 | A_Meteorite | argiopeweb: Back before dessert. :) |
| 03:09.24 | ATravelingGeek | argiopeweb: night is your friend :p |
| 03:09.31 | A_Meteorite | My server (when it runs) is on my home computer... iMac G5 2Ghz, 512MB Ram, Radeon 9600 128MB |
| 03:09.42 | A_Meteorite | Mac OS X 10.4 |
| 03:09.48 | ATravelingGeek | nice A_Meteorite |
| 03:11.37 | argiopeweb | iMac G5 RULES. I wish I had one... |
| 03:11.40 | argiopeweb | I agree about night. It's only 10:11 here, but I'll be up till at least 12. |
| 03:11.51 | A_Meteorite | It's only 7:10 here. |
| 03:12.12 | A_Meteorite | I'm kinda glad I have the G5 instead of the Intel |
| 03:12.22 | A_Meteorite | In another sense, I wish I had the Intel. :) |
| 03:12.45 | blast007 | I also heard that OS X runs great on AMD64 ;) |
| 03:12.48 | CBG | argiopeweb: "at least 12"? pff... |
| 03:12.52 | CBG | try 7AM, baby ;) |
| 03:12.54 | A_Meteorite | Intel has some problems doing certain stuff and no Mac OS 9 (which I barely use, but when I need to I do) |
| 03:13.29 | A_Meteorite | Heh, when I do build that AMD64 machine I'll probably try OSX on x86 ;) |
| 03:13.59 | argiopeweb | I'd like the Intel for speed, but I love the G5, because most of my work on the computer has to do with complex arithmetic, mostly 64 bit stuff. |
| 03:13.59 | argiopeweb | Now if only I could get one... |
| 03:15.20 | argiopeweb | Ah, but I have stuff to do tomorrow. I can't be sleeping all day, and I get to much exercise during the day to not sleep at all. |
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| 03:16.58 | A_Meteorite | Well, dessert is done. :D Laters. |
| 03:17.02 | CBG | argiopeweb: Heh... |
| 03:17.18 | CBG | I'm in the UK, sleeping according to EST. |
| 03:17.40 | CBG | I sleep from about 5AM till about 1PM. |
| 03:17.55 | CBG | Which would be Midnight till 8AM in EST. :) |
| 03:18.16 | argiopeweb | Why would you do that? |
| 03:19.08 | CBG | Why not? |
| 03:20.16 | argiopeweb | Because you're in the UK. Why would you live in EST? |
| 03:20.28 | CBG | I repeat: Why not? :) |
| 03:20.45 | argiopeweb | It's bad for your brain. |
| 03:20.54 | CBG | Really? |
| 03:21.02 | CBG | my brain will fry, cool... |
| 03:21.07 | CBG | Actually, I'm a bz-addict and I like to hang out with the nice american players. I'm doing so now in fact. |
| 03:21.26 | argiopeweb | Actually, it has been proven that you have fewer problems when you sleep at night and work in the day... |
| 03:21.39 | CBG | It is sorted then. :) |
| 03:21.49 | CBG | My brain shall fry!! |
| 03:22.20 | argiopeweb | I wish I could, but my old laptop won't run BZFlag. It doesn't have fullscreen GL support, so it crashes, and now it won't compile. |
| 03:24.01 | CBG | Hehe. :P |
| 03:27.03 | blast007 | should at least be able to run in 8-bit, which would push it down to software mode ;) |
| 03:27.14 | blast007 | whether or not it's playing is a totally different question |
| 03:27.31 | A_Meteorite | Going to work on the BZ-O-Gami map... |
| 03:27.38 | A_Meteorite | I haven't started. :o |
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| 03:28.08 | argiopeweb | BZ-O-Gami? Are you doing a paper map? |
| 03:28.20 | A_Meteorite | No |
| 03:28.25 | A_Meteorite | It's a map contest |
| 03:29.15 | argiopeweb | Website? |
| 03:29.35 | A_Meteorite | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6971 |
| 03:30.06 | A_Meteorite | Woah!! Was the deadline changed? |
| 03:30.18 | A_Meteorite | Now I actually have TIME for it! :D |
| 03:32.29 | argiopeweb | Looks fun. I hope to see some fun maps come out of it. |
| 03:38.31 | A_Meteorite | Is there a way to make a WW (GM for example) fire down? |
| 03:38.56 | A_Meteorite | *crickets* |
| 03:40.05 | CBG | *meow* ? |
| 03:40.20 | trepan | tilt |
| 03:44.42 | A_Meteorite | Oh, thanks! |
| 03:54.19 | argiopeweb | What's going on in 2.1 currently? |
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| 04:14.07 | person1 | can someone help me with the problem posted here: http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=7103 |
| 04:16.01 | person1 | alright |
| 04:22.02 | person1 | alrighty thanks agian |
| 04:23.11 | orchid | ~sarcasm |
| 04:23.13 | ibot | Oh a sarcasm detector, that's a *really* useful invention! |
| 04:23.43 | orchid | person1: just be patient and wait or come back and ask later |
| 04:23.54 | person1 | ok... |
| 04:23.58 | purple_cow | ~decks |
| 04:24.00 | ibot | i heard decks is http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/decks.html |
| 04:24.33 | person1 | ~sarcasm |
| 04:24.34 | ibot | Oh a sarcasm detector, that's a *really* useful invention! |
| 04:24.36 | person1 | lol |
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| 04:24.55 | purple_cow | orchid: |
| 04:24.57 | purple_cow | :( |
| 04:25.11 | orchid | yeah my roomate discovered torrents |
| 04:25.19 | purple_cow | ugh |
| 04:25.45 | blast007 | increase the priority of bz data using QoS ;) |
| 04:26.44 | orchid | it's easier to wait out the 7:04 hrs or so |
| 04:27.19 | orchid | but I should make her use the "one movie at a time" rule |
| 04:27.33 | purple_cow | that's a good rule |
| 04:28.09 | orchid | coupled with the "make sure it's a good movie" rule |
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| 04:36.49 | pianoboy3333 | What good bzflag map making programs are there? I use pyBzEdit under linux, but are there any that are better/give you more options? |
| 04:39.14 | pianoboy3333 | And will someone host my map? |
| 04:40.11 | blast007 | pianoboy3333: I hear that vi is a good editor |
| 04:40.24 | blast007 | supports most of the features of 2.0.x |
| 04:40.37 | blast007 | though modeling is hard with it ;) |
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| 04:40.58 | purple_cow | there's some good new blender stuff happening |
| 04:41.45 | blast007 | yup |
| 04:41.50 | Teppic | purple_cow : did you write the original bzw importer for blender ? |
| 04:41.59 | purple_cow | Teppic: indeed i did |
| 04:42.06 | Teppic | Did it work ok? |
| 04:42.17 | purple_cow | more or less |
| 04:42.21 | purple_cow | the stuff that was done worked |
| 04:42.33 | Teppic | LOL, know how you feel. |
| 04:43.15 | blast007 | pianoboy3333: so learn blender ;D |
| 04:43.36 | Teppic | Do you ever finish a bit of code and think 'It would be so much better if I did it this way' |
| 04:44.00 | purple_cow | all the time |
| 04:44.17 | Teppic | I feel like your twin |
| 04:44.38 | purple_cow | i think that's something that every programmer does |
| 04:45.08 | blast007 | I write stuff, and then write it again a couple times :) |
| 04:45.16 | Teppic | But why don't we notice at the begining, ffs sake I've been at it since I was 11 |
| 04:46.15 | Teppic | I find the whole thing depresing, I clould do it better next tim, like **** the'll be a next time. |
| 04:47.56 | Teppic | I thought of doing a maxscript exporter but didn't feel that many people would use it |
| 04:48.17 | purple_cow | max is really expensive |
| 04:48.58 | Teppic | Really? |
| 04:48.59 | pianoboy3333 | someone should write one for maya! YES!! |
| 04:49.26 | Teppic | Yeah, 'cos we've all got 3 grand laying around. |
| 04:50.17 | pianoboy3333 | lol |
| 04:50.19 | Teppic | purple_cow : My sister had from when she made worlds for Robot Arena, din know it cost. |
| 04:53.01 | purple_cow | looks like the current version is $3500 |
| 04:53.17 | purple_cow | (it's often pirated ;) |
| 04:53.58 | pianoboy3333 | Max gets pirated, details at 11! |
| 04:54.27 | purple_cow | har |
| 04:54.30 | Teppic | LOL, she was a nefaroius character. |
| 04:57.06 | pianoboy3333 | will someone host my map? |
| 05:01.40 | Teppic | Sure, download?? |
| 05:01.47 | pianoboy3333 | ummm |
| 05:02.17 | pianoboy3333 | Teppic: you can copy the text from www.geocities.com/pianoboy333/across2.txt |
| 05:02.27 | pianoboy3333 | It's a ctf map, size 200 |
| 05:02.43 | pianoboy3333 | I'm not allowed to open ports........... |
| 05:02.50 | pianoboy3333 | YET!! mwahahahaha |
| 05:02.51 | Teppic | No I can't, stupid geocities. |
| 05:03.05 | PuMpErNiCkLe | drop it in a pastebin? |
| 05:03.06 | pianoboy3333 | Y? I have heard complaints about this before? |
| 05:03.08 | pianoboy3333 | sure |
| 05:03.57 | pianoboy3333 | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/9288 |
| 05:04.32 | Teppic | Map name? |
| 05:04.47 | pianoboy3333 | Across? What ever you want :-) |
| 05:05.07 | pianoboy3333 | Wait, how about, "The Challenge of Crossing" |
| 05:05.21 | Teppic | Gimme ten minutes and I'll be in rotation, any specific settings? |
| 05:05.37 | pianoboy3333 | Teppic: the settings are mostly in the world file |
| 05:05.40 | pianoboy3333 | ummm |
| 05:06.17 | pianoboy3333 | Yea, just do a -password and make it asdf |
| 05:06.26 | pianoboy3333 | Teppic: ^ |
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| 05:07.11 | Teppic | Has to be mine I'm afraind, But I'll put you in the TEP>AUTHOR group on the forum, you get to run /set and shit that way. |
| 05:07.35 | pianoboy3333 | Teppic: Ok, sounds good |
| 05:09.07 | Teppic | What kind of map is it, for the srvmsg, 2 team ctf etc..... |
| 05:09.38 | pianoboy3333 | 2 team ctf, blue on purple, 7 each with 10 observers |
| 05:10.55 | Teppic | The numbers will be overwriten for bandwidth correction, (0,0,10,10,4) but sure... |
| 05:11.32 | pianoboy3333 | ok |
| 05:11.59 | pianoboy3333 | My friend thinks that bzflag sucks hard, what should I tell him? |
| 05:13.13 | lan56 | what teresa heinz kerry is famous for saying |
| 05:13.17 | lan56 | ;) |
| 05:13.25 | pianoboy3333 | ? |
| 05:13.42 | pianoboy3333 | No se politicos..... |
| 05:13.48 | lan56 | ahh |
| 05:14.30 | lan56 | well she just said a harsh phrase in American English during the recent presidential election period |
| 05:14.55 | pianoboy3333 | ....ok.....we'll leave it there.... |
| 05:15.26 | lan56 | right I was pulling your finger anyway :) |
| 05:15.33 | pianoboy3333 | My friend says that ur game has MAJOR (in caps) design flaws |
| 05:16.49 | purple_cow | so? |
| 05:17.39 | orange | tell him to start coding |
| 05:17.49 | pianoboy3333 | I did... |
| 05:17.53 | menotume | tell him to play and not worry about it |
| 05:17.54 | orange | and show us his game |
| 05:17.58 | menotume | :) |
| 05:18.00 | pianoboy3333 | 10 min ago... but he's still rambling.. |
| 05:18.00 | pianoboy3333 | lol |
| 05:18.18 | orange | it's very easy to tear down other people's work, until you try doing it yourself |
| 05:18.52 | menotume | yes, i'm really good at that :P |
| 05:19.04 | purple_cow | also, who cares if it sucks? |
| 05:19.05 | orange | I'm not a developer of bzflag, nor do I think it's perfect, but it's awfully fun, and I sure appreciate the volunteer effort of all the people who do develop it. |
| 05:19.08 | purple_cow | lots of people have fun with it |
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| 05:19.25 | pianoboy3333 | I love it, he says that the people who play it don't know of a better game to play...... |
| 05:20.08 | pianoboy3333 | I am not saying that I could make one I just do not like the game I do not find it the least bit entertaining -- says he.... |
| 05:20.35 | orange | "I don't like it" != "MAJOR design flaws" :-) |
| 05:21.20 | pianoboy3333 | I dont' know what design flaws he's talking about... |
| 05:21.25 | orange | nor does he :-) |
| 05:21.38 | bryjen | bzflag has a design? ;) |
| 05:21.44 | pianoboy3333 | lol' |
| 05:21.45 | bryjen | isn't that like a plan? |
| 05:21.54 | menotume | perhpas he prefers fancy-graphics, stroy-telling games that get old after you play them once |
| 05:22.40 | menotume | nhey, orange, what are you doing here ? |
| 05:22.54 | pianoboy3333 | tell orange |
| 05:22.54 | pianoboy3333 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:22.54 | pianoboy3333 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:23.01 | pianoboy3333 | says he... |
| 05:23.10 | menotume | he can't type ? |
| 05:24.07 | menotume | :) |
| 05:24.12 | purple_cow | i don't think it matters at all |
| 05:24.17 | purple_cow | everyone has their own preferences |
| 05:24.21 | menotume | yeppers |
| 05:24.46 | bryjen | like what you like |
| 05:24.53 | bryjen | pie? |
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| 05:27.03 | pianoboy3333 | He says he'll only play if I be his slave for eternity, he'll eat my soul.... |
| 05:28.12 | bryjen | fries with that? |
| 05:28.21 | Teppic | pianoboy3333 : Is it supposed to be random lookin blocks? |
| 05:28.29 | lan56 | mmm mmm mmm, I love the taste of soul with fries |
| 05:28.41 | Teppic | BZFLAG nedds ipv6 |
| 05:28.45 | Teppic | needs |
| 05:28.56 | A_Meteorite | see post |
| 05:29.00 | A_Meteorite | Teppic |
| 05:29.04 | Teppic | Post? |
| 05:29.14 | A_Meteorite | at your IPv6 topic |
| 05:29.15 | pianoboy3333 | Teppic: ? |
| 05:29.39 | Teppic | LOL A M |
| 05:29.56 | Teppic | pianoboy3333? |
| 05:30.00 | pianoboy3333 | Teppic: yes? |
| 05:30.04 | pianoboy3333 | Is it up? |
| 05:30.09 | pianoboy3333 | I'll check |
| 05:30.12 | Teppic | Random boxes? |
| 05:30.17 | pianoboy3333 | ....? |
| 05:30.26 | bryjen | s'ok for irc. i'd actually want real ip6 connectivity from my isp instead of wacky 6to4 tunneling to play games. |
| 05:30.42 | pianoboy3333 | Teppic: can u send or put a scrn shot somewhere? |
| 05:30.49 | A_Meteorite | I wonder when ISPs will cnvert to v6. |
| 05:31.00 | A_Meteorite | Won't that be kinda hard with all the existing devices? |
| 05:31.02 | A_Meteorite | :/ |
| 05:31.04 | Teppic | Send, pianoboi@teppic.homelinux.net |
| 05:31.20 | Teppic | Then if i get spammed Iknow who to blame. |
| 05:31.37 | A_Meteorite | I would love to have a block of IP addresses |
| 05:31.37 | A_Meteorite | ANY IP addresses |
| 05:31.41 | Teppic | I read up the other day. |
| 05:31.45 | Teppic | IPV6 |
| 05:32.10 | Teppic | Apperantly they have allocated the 2002:: block to existing ipaddresses |
| 05:32.27 | A_Meteorite | Man, if I had just the last two fields to myself (Class C, but I don't get that new naming convention) I would have 65,025 addresses! |
| 05:32.33 | A_Meteorite | lol |
| 05:32.47 | A_Meteorite | I bet it's less than that |
| 05:32.50 | A_Meteorite | but STILL, that's A LOT |
| 05:32.57 | Teppic | So for every ipv4 address on the internet you can allready have (souley to yourself) the last two blocks of data to yourself. |
| 05:33.04 | A_Meteorite | ahh |
| 05:33.23 | A_Meteorite | mmm... I can see anyone becoming an ISP easily |
| 05:33.25 | Teppic | You can work it out(if you know hex a bit) |
| 05:33.32 | A_Meteorite | heh |
| 05:33.39 | Teppic | My ip in hex is ........ |
| 05:33.45 | pianoboy3333 | Teppic: there, sent |
| 05:34.00 | A_Meteorite | uh oh, I don't think I want to know :P |
| 05:34.29 | Teppic | PB: don't look like that, I'll investigate..... |
| 05:34.46 | A_Meteorite | anyways, I got to get ready for bed |
| 05:34.50 | A_Meteorite | later all, g'night |
| 05:35.09 | Teppic | Do you know how much easier it would be to learn maths if we only had 6 fingers on each hand? |
| 05:35.40 | Teppic | that's like *only*, I'm not a 7 fingered mutant or anything. |
| 05:36.18 | Teppic | False then. |
| 05:36.22 | BenUrban | lol |
| 05:36.24 | BenUrban | that's boolean |
| 05:36.35 | Teppic | The master of binary, no? |
| 05:36.52 | bryjen | don't use your thumb and you've got 4 bits for one hex digit |
| 05:37.19 | Teppic | Or use a calculator and you have 64 bits of hex? |
| 05:37.35 | BenUrban | bryjen: people keep giving me 4s and 128s |
| 05:37.47 | BenUrban | and it doesn't make sense to me... |
| 05:37.50 | BenUrban | 132s also |
| 05:37.53 | pianoboy3333 | Teppic: oh god that's not my map... |
| 05:38.00 | Teppic | LOL |
| 05:38.26 | Teppic | No thats Sir Pants |
| 05:39.25 | Teppic | Yours appers to have an error, will investigate when soberer. |
| 05:39.57 | pianoboy3333 | lol |
| 05:40.18 | pianoboy3333 | Or u started some random or other map, Teppic |
| 05:40.39 | Teppic | No, the rotation is working but yours won't show |
| 05:40.52 | pianoboy3333 | oh |
| 05:40.58 | pianoboy3333 | that was another map.... |
| 05:41.20 | Teppic | Yep, I keep restarting but it's not thete >> error somewhere |
| 05:41.48 | Teppic | Tomorrow, soberer (note not sober) |
| 05:42.32 | pianoboy3333 | Teppic: you in windows or linux? |
| 05:42.37 | Teppic | Linus |
| 05:42.40 | Teppic | x |
| 05:42.55 | Teppic | Hence my own mail server |
| 05:43.27 | Teppic | And a billion offers to sell me Viagra |
| 05:44.25 | pianoboy3333 | ? |
| 05:44.40 | Teppic | Standard spam. |
| 05:44.44 | pianoboy3333 | lol |
| 05:45.12 | pianoboy3333 | all u need to do then is: |
| 05:45.34 | pianoboy3333 | bzflag -world 'pathhere' -whatevergroupcrap -publiccrap |
| 05:46.17 | Teppic | AHH, bad argument "-disablebots" |
| 05:46.25 | pianoboy3333 | ? |
| 05:46.38 | pianoboy3333 | oh |
| 05:46.42 | Teppic | should be -set _disableBots 1 |
| 05:46.44 | pianoboy3333 | it's -disableBots |
| 05:46.48 | pianoboy3333 | no |
| 05:46.56 | pianoboy3333 | I realized I have it in two places |
| 05:46.59 | Teppic | My bzfs says different. |
| 05:47.00 | pianoboy3333 | I only need it in one |
| 05:47.23 | pianoboy3333 | Teppic: I no what urs says, I have -disablebots and -set _disableBots true |
| 05:47.26 | pianoboy3333 | BUT |
| 05:47.34 | pianoboy3333 | it should be -disableBots |
| 05:48.33 | pianoboy3333 | or one of those should be taken out |
| 05:48.49 | pianoboy3333 | which is what i'm doing... |
| 05:49.28 | Teppic | It's up. |
| 05:50.58 | pianoboy3333 | thx sooo much |
| 06:10.07 | BzFire | will having alot of servers running eventually cause jitter problems ? (system resources not internet speed) |
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| 06:28.22 | orchid | ~dict neoclassical |
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| 06:33.04 | bryjen | the old becoming new again |
| 06:33.39 | orchid | ahh |
| 06:36.12 | bryjen | styles of blue jeans... the rolling stones... |
| 06:36.57 | orchid | the rolling stones are old becoming older |
| 06:46.17 | purple_cow | hehe |
| 06:47.28 | Teppic | His map rocks... |
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| 07:04.45 | Teppic | nite... |
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| 13:38.51 | YOURDEAD | hi all! |
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| 15:35.22 | Unspeakable1 | hello all |
| 15:35.49 | blast007 | hi |
| 15:36.08 | CBG | Yo. :) |
| 15:36.27 | Unspeakable1 | is there a .bzw to .obj converter? HELP please |
| 15:37.42 | trepan | in newer clients: /saveworld -o <name> |
| 15:38.28 | Unspeakable1 | ahh will the -o turn it into an obj then Trepan? |
| 15:39.38 | trepan | read the output from the console |
| 15:40.31 | Unspeakable1 | ok i try thanks |
| 15:45.19 | Unspeakable1 | hmmm is there no easyier method of translating .bzw into .obj? anyone written anthing? |
| 15:45.24 | trepan | no |
| 15:45.59 | trepan | neat, with the shaders being tied into bzdb, dynamic custom map defined HUD objects are easy |
| 15:47.09 | Unspeakable1 | ok thanks |
| 15:49.23 | Unspeakable1 | found out that from Solidworks to Rhino is good using iges, but still you can only use simple solids complex boolean is out with exception to union and subtract. |
| 15:49.28 | trepan | could render the radar to a texture and allow it to be bound with 'texture *radar*', and other such funs things (p.s. cubemaps are bound with with example_*cube*.png, where *cube* is replaced with n,s,e,w,t,b) |
| 15:51.02 | trepan | try DXF with Blender? |
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| 15:55.01 | Unspeakable1 | DXF ok. Blender.....yes must look at Blender again. |
| 15:55.30 | trepan | there's also a blender->bzw exporter written by Teppic iirc |
| 15:56.08 | trepan | (don't know if he's fixed it, but his lighting normals where jacked last i saw) |
| 15:56.10 | Unspeakable1 | thats cool, this may be very helpful then |
| 15:58.06 | trepan | Unspeakable1: http://www.museum.state.il.us/ismdepts/library/linuxguides/blender/blender_faq_53.html |
| 15:58.10 | trepan | read the last item |
| 15:58.27 | Unspeakable1 | ty |
| 15:59.21 | trepan | (i've been using blender to clean up some non manifold meshes before importing to wings... same trick :) |
| 16:00.23 | Unspeakable1 | ahh i see......all this code manipulation is so time consuming. |
| 16:05.10 | Unspeakable1 | have been trying different high end cad systems Catia V5 V4, Solidworks, Cadds5, they all look promising. iges to iges im/ex. DXF is poss too, havn't looked at that scenario yet |
| 16:06.00 | trepan | Solidworks exports DXF |
| 16:06.14 | Unspeakable1 | indeedy :) |
| 16:06.26 | trepan | as do autocad and all the big ones |
| 16:07.22 | Unspeakable1 | must look at DXF, been relying on iges too much.................cheers |
| 16:08.41 | Unspeakable1 | do you know if BZedit will be brought up to speed? |
| 16:09.30 | trepan | blender could become the new bzedit |
| 16:09.39 | trepan | will see how teppic's thing works out |
| 16:09.48 | Unspeakable1 | ahhhh me needs def to look at this then |
| 16:10.07 | trepan | s/will/we'll - tea time |
| 16:10.21 | Unspeakable1 | thanks very much trepan........eat well |
| 16:11.45 | trepan | no crumpets, just tea |
| 16:12.15 | Unspeakable1 | hoho i have to go look at a few things, thanks again and cya |
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| 16:16.45 | trepan | also gets octree culling for free if properly defined :) |
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| 16:50.30 | Alex135 | Im so verry sorry, i lost the link on where i can get the sorce for the curent bzflag. (2.0.5b5) Can you please give it to me again? |
| 16:51.18 | CBG | Was it in the forum? |
| 16:51.35 | Alex135 | no... not that i know of |
| 16:51.46 | CBG | Oh, hmm... |
| 16:51.59 | Alex135 | it should be downloadable using cvs |
| 16:52.11 | CBG | Then, why do you need a link? |
| 16:52.48 | Alex135 | to use cvs i need the link to download the program from |
| 16:52.54 | Alex135 | and its not listed that i know of... |
| 16:53.00 | CBG | o.O |
| 16:53.20 | CBG | ~cvs |
| 16:53.22 | ibot | cvs stands for concurrent versions systems. more info here http://www.cvshome.org/. The asterisk CVS can be found at http://asterisk.espia-net.net/horde/chora/cvs.php. It is also Giving.....you.....the.......source......one..........bit.........at..............a.....................time. |
| 16:53.46 | CBG | ~bzcvs |
| 16:53.47 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 16:53.53 | Alex135 | thx |
| 16:53.55 | CBG | There, is that what you want? |
| 16:54.03 | Alex135 | yes |
| 16:54.12 | CBG | OK, :) have fun... |
| 16:54.21 | Alex135 | i will :P |
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| 17:30.37 | gsnedders | wow.... what a load of brilliant CTF players on viper's... (sarcasm( |
| 17:36.47 | ruskie | lol |
| 17:45.10 | gsnedders | ho? |
| 17:45.30 | CBG | I beg your pardon?! |
| 17:45.47 | gsnedders | what does ho mean? |
| 17:46.17 | CBG | *sigh* |
| 17:46.40 | gsnedders | ? |
| 18:07.40 | menotume | ho can mean 'hi', or slang for wh*re |
| 18:08.31 | CBG | yo*hi = ho. Or, You can be odd like me and use it in reply to "hi" as in the song "hi ho, hi ho, it's off to work we go..." :) |
| 18:10.03 | CBG | ~larts ToughShooter for having such a bizarre notion! |
| 18:13.07 | menotume | likewise for 'yo' |
| 18:13.21 | menotume | or go |
| 18:13.44 | menotume | go, no, ho, yo, to |
| 18:14.08 | CBG | Y, U, G, J, B and N are actually close to H than T. :) |
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| 18:15.41 | ToughShooter | CBG:That depends on for what language the keyboard is configured, 'y' has a high distance to 'h' on my keyboards for example |
| 18:16.21 | Gnurdux | is it possible for a plugin to get a list of all bzdb variable names? |
| 18:16.27 | menotume | ok, ho means hi ! |
| 18:17.33 | ToughShooter | menotume: löl |
| 18:20.13 | Gnurdux | ?? |
| 18:21.49 | Gnurdux | anyone here who can help me? |
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| 18:56.31 | blast007 | Gnurdux: bz_getBZDBVarList |
| 18:57.16 | Gnurdux | its not listed online |
| 18:57.52 | Gnurdux | but yup it exists |
| 18:57.53 | Gnurdux | thnx |
| 18:58.20 | CBG | lol |
| 18:59.45 | Thumper_ | trepan: line 171 SpawnPosition.cxx |
| 19:01.24 | trepan | i'd recheck your stats, 14% for that one line seems a high |
| 19:01.42 | trepan | s/ a / a bit / |
| 19:01.45 | Thumper_ | the check doesn't look for opponent |
| 19:01.54 | Thumper_ | any tank that is facing with a lser |
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| 19:02.02 | Thumper_ | laser* regardless of team or obstructions |
| 19:02.07 | Thumper_ | causes the spawn point to be 'bad' and it keeps looking |
| 19:02.12 | Thumper_ | until it runs out of time and just drops you in |
| 19:02.50 | trepan | could be that the test is borked, that CPU usage for such a simple task is unreasonable |
| 19:02.59 | trepan | there just aren't that many spawns... |
| 19:03.05 | Thumper_ | it's trying to locate a spawn location in a loop |
| 19:03.13 | Thumper_ | and they are 'all bad' since with lots of players |
| 19:03.18 | Thumper_ | there are tons of facing tanks with lasers |
| 19:03.36 | Thumper_ | the check isn't very smart :) |
| 19:03.40 | trepan | throw in a height check too then |
| 19:03.56 | Thumper_ | ok |
| 19:04.15 | trepan | lou's got pinched spawn zones i guess |
| 19:04.29 | Thumper_ | and maybe ignore tanks on the same team |
| 19:04.57 | trepan | not for L ;) |
| 19:05.03 | Thumper_ | heh |
| 19:05.19 | trepan | if you're going to do that, limit it by distance |
| 19:06.18 | trepan | distance limiting is already done for normal shots with _spawnSafeRadMod |
| 19:06.25 | Thumper_ | within 20 degrees covers a large portion of the map normally |
| 19:06.29 | bz90 | hi |
| 19:06.30 | Thumper_ | on big maps |
| 19:06.41 | Thumper_ | but adding height will help |
| 19:06.56 | Thumper_ | I'll give that a shot |
| 19:07.45 | trepan | and do change M_PI / 9 to a degrees value, if it needed to be commented as degrees, might as well be coded as degrees |
| 19:08.16 | Thumper_ | ok |
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| 19:08.38 | bz90 | don't forget to include the flange sprocket multiplier |
| 19:10.03 | bz90 | see the gcc man page -- i forget where exactly: it's > 7500 bleedin' lines long :) |
| 19:12.58 | bz90 | may i ask a programming question, please? |
| 19:14.03 | trepan | ~ask |
| 19:14.04 | ibot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a quesiton first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 19:14.04 | blast007 | ask away |
| 19:15.21 | bz90 | ibot may be logical, but "common courtesy" seemingly unknown to him :) |
| 19:15.26 | bz90 | ok. tx |
| 19:15.57 | bz90 | the question: is a statically-linked library a library that is itself statically-linked, or one that is intended to |
| 19:16.06 | bz90 | be used for later static linking? or both:? |
| 19:16.53 | bz90 | the former seems most likely, given the name, but some explanations i've seen online hint at the latter |
| 19:19.26 | bz90 | or... are all the external symbol references resolved and the relevant code brought into statically-linked libraries at link time by the static linker? |
| 19:19.35 | bz90 | .. |
| 19:19.48 | bz90 | this is all becoming very confusing |
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| 19:30.42 | wizart | hmm. if you are talking about a library I would say the former. However usually you are talking about programs where some or all libraries are statically linked into the program. |
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| 20:09.59 | Gnurdux | is there an event that fires on a bzdb change |
| 20:10.01 | Gnurdux | ? |
| 20:12.25 | Gnurdux | a bzapi event? |
| 20:15.06 | blast007 | I'm not seeing one |
| 20:15.28 | blast007 | what version are you working with? 2.0.4? |
| 20:15.45 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 20:15.56 | blast007 | let me see if there would be an alternative |
| 20:16.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bthansen 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/SpawnPosition.cxx: Fix dy distance calculation - compare apples to apples and oranges to oranges |
| 20:17.19 | blast007 | Gnurdux: hmm...in 2.0.5 there is a bz_eSlashCommandEvent |
| 20:17.29 | blast007 | but not in 2.0.4 |
| 20:17.36 | Gnurdux | awww |
| 20:17.42 | Gnurdux | maybe i oughtta upgrade |
| 20:17.48 | Gnurdux | where do i get source to 2.0.5? |
| 20:17.54 | blast007 | so if you used 2.0.5, you could look for commands starting with /set |
| 20:17.57 | blast007 | ~bzcvs |
| 20:17.59 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 20:18.24 | blast007 | of course, doing a "cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag login" first |
| 20:21.06 | wizatcomputer | for some reason i've never had to do the login command |
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| 20:41.03 | blast007 | wizatcomputer: very possible :) |
| 20:41.12 | blast007 | I've actually never tried without it |
| 20:41.35 | wizatcomputer | i run the 2nd command and hit enter when it asks for the pw |
| 20:42.09 | blast007 | ah, ok |
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| 21:19.12 | gsnedders | why is the screenshot always saved as bzfi0000.png, overwriting any previous one? (2.0.5/Mac OS 10.4.5) |
| 21:20.18 | CBG | It doesn't overwrite... |
| 21:20.40 | CBG | Older ones change name to bzfi0001. The previous bzfi0001 would change to bzfi0002, etc. |
| 21:22.00 | gsnedders | no, it overwrites |
| 21:22.13 | CBG | Never has for me... |
| 21:22.57 | gsnedders | i haven't taken any screenshots since 1.10 :p |
| 21:23.01 | gsnedders | or at least often |
| 21:23.27 | CBG | I often do, but then never actually open the files at all... |
| 21:24.09 | _Manu_ | gsnedders, first image is bzfi0000.png, second bzfi0001.png and so on |
| 21:24.09 | _Manu_ | bzflag image |
| 21:24.22 | gsnedders | _Manu_, not here. |
| 21:24.29 | gsnedders | it always overwrites 0000 |
| 21:24.50 | _Manu_ | it's weird |
| 21:29.18 | CBG | so, gsnedders you only ever have one screenshot file? |
| 21:29.25 | gsnedders | yeah. |
| 21:29.29 | CBG | heh. |
| 21:31.27 | _Manu_ | I don't know if it's a mac issue |
| 21:31.46 | gsnedders | could permissions of the files have anything to do with it? |
| 21:31.48 | gsnedders | or the folder? |
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| 21:34.18 | _Manu_ | you can check for the permissions |
| 21:34.42 | huwnet | hi. I am trying to connect to SVN on now that sf supports it. I have the settings exactly the same as the docs but bzflag doesn't work. Does the project admin have to convert to SVN first? |
| 21:35.25 | gsnedders | huwnet, yeah. |
| 21:35.42 | gsnedders | i thought SVN was still in limited beta testing on SF |
| 21:36.16 | huwnet | nope they opened it today |
| 21:36.57 | gsnedders | alright, bug is more specific. everytime you open bzflag it resets to 0000 |
| 21:37.13 | gsnedders | huwnet, *runs off to convert own projects to SVN* |
| 21:41.09 | huwnet | instructions if any of the devs are interested: http://sourceforge.net/docman/display_doc.php?docid=31070&group_id=1 :P |
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| 21:45.44 | purple_cow | oh nice |
| 21:45.49 | purple_cow | they let you install hooks |
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| 22:01.33 | RPG | does anybody know much about FTP in here? |
| 22:01.46 | gsnedders | i know a fair amount |
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| 22:02.08 | gsnedders | if you're quick, i might be able to quickly help you |
| 22:02.17 | RPG | ok |
| 22:02.20 | RPG | did you get my PM's? |
| 22:02.26 | gsnedders | no |
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| 22:02.40 | RPG | /join #rpghasftpproblems |
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| 23:16.08 | orchid | TimRiker: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=323815 |
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| 23:38.09 | YOURDEAD | HI BRAD |
| 23:39.29 | brad2901 | hello |
| 23:40.03 | brad2901 | captures? as in capture the flag? :) |
| 23:41.01 | Birdie | caps |
| 23:41.03 | Birdie | woops |
| 23:41.14 | brad2901 | :P |
| 23:41.55 | menotume | OH MY EARS ! |
| 23:42.18 | menotume | heh, kill 2 birdes with one stone :) |
| 23:50.14 | YOURDEAD | kil 3000000000000000000000 birds wit 1 stone lol |