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| 00:04.55 | pianoboy3333 | Can someone here help me with networking probs for a bzflag game? |
| 00:05.25 | brlcad | pianoboy3333: perhaps later I would (4 or so hours) |
| 00:05.43 | brlcad | for now, time to go celebrate I suppose |
| 00:05.50 | pianoboy3333 | When I'm in windows, my other windows computer can see my computer, but when I'm in linux, the other can't. How do I network the computers so that my other computer can see mine in linux? |
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| 00:13.36 | YOURDEAD | bzfir hi |
| 00:13.48 | BzFire | hello |
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| 02:51.22 | TheOneCalledA1 | bzflag is the shizzle |
| 02:51.22 | TheOneCalledA1 | lmao |
| 02:54.07 | orange | is it that time again? |
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| 03:02.42 | CBG | what time, orange? 3am? :) |
| 03:02.55 | Grackshrike | Hi all... I was just playing this game http://www.fathomgames.com/downloads.html ...it's pretty addictive, and it looks like something that could be implemented in BZFlag. |
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| 03:04.52 | Legoguy|L | that was definitely not expected |
| 03:05.21 | Legoguy|L | i can play bzflag with pos ati drivers on linux faster than i can on windows with supposedly the "better" ati drivers |
| 03:05.21 | crazyme | Hey CBG! |
| 03:05.26 | CBG | hi ChanServ |
| 03:05.28 | CBG | ug |
| 03:05.33 | CBG | hi crazyme * |
| 03:05.49 | crazyme | Really? That's odd. I've never gotten bzflag to run quickly on Linux. |
| 03:06.01 | Legoguy|L | higher resolution, faster fps, funkily cool |
| 03:06.06 | Grackshrike | Heh Legoguy, the limiting factor of your computer's ability to play BZFlag must not lie in the gfx card. |
| 03:06.13 | Legoguy|L | i know |
| 03:06.17 | Legoguy|L | [ cpu ] AMD Turion(tm) 64 Mobile Technology ML-44 | 2387.842 MHz | 1024 KB Cache | BogoMIPS: 4782.29 | CPU Usage: 1.49% |
| 03:06.26 | crazyme | Were you on the rainforest map earlier CBG? |
| 03:06.27 | Grackshrike | Ahh, that's reasonable then. |
| 03:06.37 | CBG | uh, no. |
| 03:06.45 | Legoguy|L | im talking about playing it on the same machine, just comparing windows and linux |
| 03:06.45 | crazyme | Okay, just checking. |
| 03:06.47 | Legoguy|L | i dualboot |
| 03:07.21 | Legoguy|L | [ video ] Video Adapter: ATI Technologies Inc ATI Radeon XPRESS 200M 5955 (PCIE) |
| 03:07.24 | Legoguy|L | :( |
| 03:07.29 | crazyme | The 64 bits might be helping, but it's more than likely a good video card. Mine sux0rs |
| 03:07.41 | Legoguy|L | ~60fps @ 1280x800 |
| 03:08.04 | Legoguy|L | full res 1680x1050 gets about 20fps in places |
| 03:08.34 | wizatcomputer | i was getting 150FPS on BZflag 2.1.6 w/ a G4 1.6GHz and 64mb ATI |
| 03:08.36 | crazyme | I'm lucky to get 1280x800. I've got a 2mg onboard on my P3 server, and 32 on the P4. I need to upgrade. I play off of the iMac G4. |
| 03:08.41 | Legoguy|L | i could get 30 fps on windows at 1280x800 |
| 03:08.50 | Legoguy|L | lol |
| 03:08.57 | Legoguy|L | yeah your card isnt integrated |
| 03:09.19 | Legoguy|L | i get over 300 fps @1024x768 on my desktop with geforce fx 5900 128mb |
| 03:09.28 | wizatcomputer | Legoguy: it' |
| 03:09.31 | wizatcomputer | s a powerbook |
| 03:09.35 | Legoguy|L | oh |
| 03:09.36 | Legoguy|L | well then :/ |
| 03:09.44 | Legoguy|L | what screen res |
| 03:09.44 | crazyme | I sometimes get 60 off of a 32mb card on my 800mgz G4. |
| 03:10.00 | wizatcomputer | Legoguy: lemme check... it's the highest it runs on my screen |
| 03:10.20 | wizatcomputer | 1280x854 |
| 03:10.28 | Legoguy|L | funky |
| 03:10.32 | Legoguy|L | 854 :/ |
| 03:10.40 | wizatcomputer | powerbooks are widescreen :) |
| 03:10.49 | Legoguy|L | mine too, 1680x1050, but .. |
| 03:10.58 | Legoguy|L | never heard of that res before |
| 03:11.04 | purple_cow | the amount of memory on your video card doesn't matter for anything except how much room there is to store textures |
| 03:11.09 | wizatcomputer | yeah |
| 03:11.10 | Legoguy|L | yeah |
| 03:11.12 | Legoguy|L | i know |
| 03:11.35 | wizatcomputer | which can be a big factor though in high-detail maps |
| 03:11.41 | Legoguy|L | yep |
| 03:11.42 | wizatcomputer | er... maps where everything is textured |
| 03:11.51 | Legoguy|L | not for the smaller ones though |
| 03:12.00 | Legoguy|L | like, pillbox is the one i just tested it at |
| 03:12.01 | purple_cow | wizatcomputer: well, if there's not enough, you're SOL. won't affect framerate at all |
| 03:12.05 | trepan | purple_cow: and vertex data |
| 03:12.13 | Legoguy|L | im sure it will hit lower fps in higher detail maps |
| 03:12.15 | purple_cow | trepan: well, yeah |
| 03:12.29 | purple_cow | but the physical amount doesn't impact framerate at all |
| 03:12.32 | trepan | although that's hardly important in most bz maps :) |
| 03:12.33 | wizatcomputer | purple_cow: i see a drop in FPS with maps where everything is textured... |
| 03:12.35 | Legoguy|L | is there an SDL audio driver for this thing |
| 03:12.45 | crazyme | LOL, my old iBook has 4mg builtin VRAM, doesn't support fullscreen OpenGL, and won't go above 800x600. :) |
| 03:12.56 | trepan | purple_cow: unless there's swapping |
| 03:12.56 | purple_cow | wizatcomputer: that has nothing to do with the *amount* of memory |
| 03:13.06 | wizatcomputer | purple_cow: oops.... yeah you're right |
| 03:13.06 | Legoguy|L | im using alsa but this pos sound card has problems and the only way ive found to play things at the same time was to use sdl+alsa instead of direct alsa |
| 03:13.09 | Legoguy|L | through mplayer |
| 03:13.09 | purple_cow | trepan: and does bzflag swap textures? ;) |
| 03:13.24 | trepan | onboard vs. agp, possibly... |
| 03:13.42 | purple_cow | the only cards i'm aware of that can do swapping on their own are 3dlabs monsters |
| 03:14.27 | trepan | it'd be driver dependent, not sure if most drvs would simply reject texs once their onboard is full-up |
| 03:14.29 | Legoguy|L | oh well, this seems to play bzflag on linux better than the old geforce fx 5700 go i used to have |
| 03:14.35 | Legoguy|L | before it shat itself 3 times |
| 03:14.53 | Legoguy|L | long story short, they replaced my hp zd7380us with a dv8000z |
| 03:16.47 | Legoguy|L | i love this thing |
| 03:16.53 | Legoguy|L | a laptop with two hard drives |
| 03:17.09 | crazyme | Pretty bad when you measure how much you like a piece of hardware by how well it allows you to play BZFlag. |
| 03:17.13 | Legoguy|L | i pulled the hard drive out of my old laptop before sending it in, to save my data |
| 03:17.19 | Legoguy|L | and i can still use it \m/ |
| 03:17.26 | crazyme | What kind of laptop is that? |
| 03:17.33 | Legoguy|L | hp dv8000z |
| 03:17.50 | Legoguy|L | ive yet to write up a nice big linux howto on it yet |
| 03:18.02 | Legoguy|L | theres a bunch of little tweaks and workarounds this thing needs |
| 03:18.07 | trepan | purple_cow: i think that that is the intent of glPrioritizeTextures and friends (residency may refer to the memory level) |
| 03:18.45 | Legoguy|L | hmm you know what have there been any major speed improvements since 2.0.4 and cvs stable branch? |
| 03:19.26 | crazyme | I think I noticed a bit of a speed-up with 2.0.5. |
| 03:19.29 | trepan | i'd be interested to know how/if it's actually used, all the reading i've done does indicate that texture creation order is important, dunno if there's a tie-in |
| 03:19.33 | crazyme | Not sure though. |
| 03:20.12 | Legoguy|L | anyway, yea, i wasnt measuring how much i like my laptop by how it plays bzflag, but its certainly a plus.. |
| 03:20.18 | Legoguy|L | tank'n on the go |
| 03:20.49 | crazyme | Just make sure they don't catch you mooching off of someone elses wireless internet. ;) |
| 03:20.54 | Legoguy|L | <_< |
| 03:20.56 | Legoguy|L | >_> |
| 03:20.59 | Legoguy|L | X_X |
| 03:21.08 | Legoguy|L | lol |
| 03:21.38 | Legoguy|L | im really quite surprised that they dont have any bzflag ports blocked at college |
| 03:21.57 | crazyme | Which college? |
| 03:25.48 | TheOneCalledA1 | we played bzflag everyday at our school |
| 03:25.54 | TheOneCalledA1 | (5th grade to 12th grade) |
| 03:26.06 | crazyme | Got to love lab computers. :) |
| 03:26.37 | TheOneCalledA1 | funny enough |
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| 03:26.42 | TheOneCalledA1 | our computer lab was full of macs |
| 03:26.46 | TheOneCalledA1 | and the teacher was retarded |
| 03:26.57 | TheOneCalledA1 | our librarian knew more about linux then the compu teacher |
| 03:27.05 | LegoGuy|W | Didn't he apreciate the power of macs? |
| 03:27.09 | TheOneCalledA1 | the library had its own computer room, with linux computers |
| 03:27.14 | LegoGuy|W | By the way, when was this? |
| 03:27.15 | TheOneCalledA1 | Not really :p |
| 03:27.27 | TheOneCalledA1 | This was three years ago. I left the school after a year |
| 03:27.28 | LegoGuy|W | I like this school. |
| 03:27.38 | TheOneCalledA1 | what country you in? |
| 03:27.46 | LegoGuy|W | Macs in the lab, Linux in the Library. |
| 03:27.48 | LegoGuy|W | US. |
| 03:27.53 | TheOneCalledA1 | which state? |
| 03:27.56 | LegoGuy|W | FL. |
| 03:28.01 | LegoGuy|W | You? |
| 03:28.01 | TheOneCalledA1 | Come to PA :p |
| 03:28.03 | TheOneCalledA1 | Philly |
| 03:28.11 | TheOneCalledA1 | Philly, PA |
| 03:28.46 | TheOneCalledA1 | Home of cheesesteaks, italian water ice, and our world famous pretzels |
| 03:29.00 | TheOneCalledA1 | look it up on wikipedia, JR Masterman Highschool |
| 03:29.13 | LegoGuy|W | No offense, but I can't stand PA. I feel strange when I get above the Mason/Dixon. Maybe it's because of all of the New Yorkers in FL. |
| 03:29.23 | TheOneCalledA1 | >_< |
| 03:30.42 | TheOneCalledA1 | yep |
| 03:31.20 | LegoGuy|W | Cool, I love magnet schools. |
| 03:31.36 | LegoGuy|W | So, what could I do to earn that credibiltiy back? Anything? |
| 03:32.13 | LegoGuy|W | nBy the way, it's not the city I dislike, it's the general area of the north. I've had some really bad experiences. |
| 03:39.10 | TheOneCalledA1 | back |
| 03:39.22 | TheOneCalledA1 | You could always say sorry :p |
| 03:39.27 | TheOneCalledA1 | Im kiding btw :p |
| 03:40.10 | crazyme | I wasn't trying to insult your city. I'm really a big fan of William Penn. |
| 03:40.29 | crazyme | But it still came out that way. :( |
| 03:41.42 | TheOneCalledAl | LOL, these look awfully similar. |
| 03:47.25 | crazyme | For all of you who care, I've figured out why CVS has been down a lot. SF is replacing a good part of the hardware on their CVS servers, and also switching a bunch over to Subversion. |
| 03:47.44 | spldart | kew |
| 03:47.57 | spldart | hopefully they become alot more reliable |
| 03:48.01 | purple_cow | speaking of which |
| 03:48.04 | crazyme | I'm hoping so. |
| 03:48.12 | purple_cow | i know i haven't written any code in, you know, years, but i vote to move to svn ;) |
| 03:48.22 | crazyme | Why? |
| 03:48.26 | purple_cow | because it sucks less |
| 03:48.44 | crazyme | Okay. I see your views, but how about you explain them? |
| 03:49.06 | purple_cow | directories/file moves/etc are actually versioned, commits are atomic, .... |
| 03:49.08 | spldart | Suck is such a matter of circumstance. Sometimes suck is good... Sometimes suck is bad... hrm |
| 03:49.22 | crazyme | I personally see little wrong with CVS. It's a bit hard to get past the learning curve, but that's my personal opinion. |
| 03:49.37 | purple_cow | crazyme: svn's interface is very similar to CVS, it just involves fewer headaches |
| 03:50.22 | orchid | svn can rename a file and keep the files commit history yes? |
| 03:50.58 | crazyme | I've personally always wondered why CVS works at all, because if you think about it, you have two devs working on the same file. If they have different fixes to the same problem, with the better one being commited first, you have to do all sorts of crap to get the better one to work. |
| 03:51.20 | Legoguy|L | now wait a minute |
| 03:51.48 | Legoguy|L | what was the deal with legoguy|w :P |
| 03:52.08 | purple_cow | orchid: yes |
| 03:52.19 | crazyme | I was screwing around. Trying to impersonate people. It didn't work well. |
| 03:53.01 | crazyme | Actually, TheOneCalledAl looked real good on my end, but you people not using XChat probably could see the difference better. |
| 03:53.10 | Legoguy|L | lol |
| 03:54.22 | crazyme | I'm all about the fun and games most of the time. What's life if you can't have fun? |
| 03:55.53 | Legoguy|L | good point. |
| 03:56.16 | crazyme | Can you not have a number as the first character in an IRC nick? |
| 03:56.42 | orchid | try it |
| 03:57.02 | crazyme | I did. It gave me an "Erroneous Nickname" error. |
| 03:57.18 | orchid | I would say no then |
| 03:57.34 | crazyme | I was hoping that someone could confirm it. |
| 03:57.47 | purple_cow | orchid: decks? |
| 03:57.53 | purple_cow | this leaftag hacking is making me feel dumb |
| 03:58.04 | crazyme | leaftag hacking? |
| 03:58.28 | orchid | ~decks |
| 03:58.29 | ibot | somebody said decks was http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/decks.html |
| 03:58.55 | orchid | ok sure, we need some people though, or you shoot me too much :) |
| 03:59.29 | orchid | crazyme: desktop tagging thingy |
| 04:00.30 | crazyme | Okay. What's up with the decks thing. (I know the obvious, what is special about it?) |
| 04:01.27 | purple_cow | crazyme: it's traditional! |
| 04:01.37 | purple_cow | also, lots of fun |
| 04:02.17 | orchid | neoclassical fun! |
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| 04:02.57 | orchid | ciao Tupone |
| 04:03.07 | Tupone | ciao, decks ? |
| 04:03.12 | orchid | hehe |
| 04:03.19 | orchid | si |
| 04:03.39 | Tupone | 2.0 ? |
| 04:03.55 | orchid | not sure, i'd have to compile it if so |
| 04:04.33 | purple_cow | yeah, 2.0 |
| 04:04.39 | crazyme | Okay then, what is it? I know that you need a CVS client, but that's just about it. |
| 04:04.55 | Tupone | hmm. address ? |
| 04:04.58 | purple_cow | crazyme: it's a map/config |
| 04:05.07 | purple_cow | Tupone: zero.navi.cx -- should be at the end of the list |
| 04:06.46 | crazyme | Wish it was up when I was playing. I'd like to get an idea of what it was like. |
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| 04:19.15 | spldart | I didn't know decks was being hosted on 2.0. I |
| 04:19.27 | spldart | I'm runing it on 1.10.8 |
| 04:27.05 | brlcad | ~decks? |
| 04:27.06 | ibot | decks is, like, http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/decks.html |
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| 05:14.02 | spldart | mmmMMMMmmmm digging through my old Mystery Science Theater 3000 recordings :) |
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| 05:35.32 | spldart | Just need to boot up knoppix std :~) http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/waveguide.jpg |
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| 06:06.57 | BzFire | what is anistropic ? |
| 06:08.42 | trepan | anisotropic, google it |
| 06:09.33 | BzFire | ok a better question is, why is it unavailable to me ? |
| 06:10.20 | trepan | os? |
| 06:11.14 | BzFire | linux |
| 06:12.30 | trepan | you have to get the GLEW library |
| 06:12.38 | BzFire | ok thankyou |
| 06:13.45 | brlcad | BzFire: anisotropic is not isotropic ;) |
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| 06:18.16 | BzFire | brlcad: I had not clue what either was till i googled it. So no need to worry about me getting confused :) |
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| 08:21.19 | a_temp_dist | i've just started a HTF server using the HoldTheFlag plugin |
| 08:21.38 | SilverFox | and? |
| 08:21.55 | a_temp_dist | is it possible for me to change some code in src/bzfs/(somefile) |
| 08:22.16 | a_temp_dist | so my players don't hear the donkey sound for every TK and flagcap? |
| 08:22.30 | a_temp_dist | or does that all happen locally for them? |
| 08:22.31 | purple_cow | the donkey sound is a client thing, not a server thing |
| 08:22.41 | a_temp_dist | ok that s fine - thx |
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| 08:27.20 | BzFire | anyone got ubuntu breezy and find bzflag jumps everyonce in a while ? |
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| 08:32.57 | trepan | BzFire: cpu? |
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| 08:47.26 | BzFire | intel celeron |
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| 10:40.02 | BzFire | trepan: nevermind i found a way to fix it. energy saver. Ofcourse the fps on that is too slow so i changed it from 30 to 90.. working good now :) |
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| 11:40.07 | twb | twb@rocinante[~]$ bzflag |
| 11:40.07 | twb | Could not set Video Mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual. |
| 11:40.07 | twb | Error creating window - Exiting |
| 11:40.10 | twb | Ideas? |
| 11:40.49 | twb | Hmm, glxgears fails, too. |
| 11:44.57 | twb | Ah, that's the problem. |
| 11:45.29 | twb | Apparently the already running X server that GDM starts steals the DRIness, so my xinit-started one just gets 2D acceleration. |
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| 15:13.21 | Pryde | anyone here? |
| 15:14.04 | Pryde | hello? |
| 15:14.40 | Tupone | perhaps |
| 15:14.55 | Tupone | ~ask |
| 15:14.56 | ibot | Questions in the channel should be specific, informative, complete, concise, and on-topic. Don't ask if you can ask a quesiton first. Don't ask if a person is there, just ask what you intended to ask them. Better questions more frequently yield better answers. We are all here voluntarily. See also http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 15:15.15 | Pryde | I was looking for help on compiling bzflag under Damn Small Linux |
| 15:15.41 | Tupone | aww ... so what problem you got ? |
| 15:16.02 | Pryde | have you used DSL? |
| 15:16.08 | Tupone | nope |
| 15:16.21 | Pryde | hrm... |
| 15:16.28 | Tupone | but is linux I guess :) |
| 15:17.31 | Pryde | yes |
| 15:17.57 | Pryde | need to find out how to get the GNU Autotools ported for Debian or Knoppix |
| 15:18.08 | Pryde | so that I can compile correctly |
| 15:18.41 | Tupone | DSL does not provide autotools? |
| 15:18.46 | Pryde | nope |
| 15:19.06 | Pryde | it's a very stripped down version of linux....whole thing fits in under 50m |
| 15:19.06 | Tupone | hmm, does it provide m4 and perl ? |
| 15:19.22 | Pryde | perl, yes, m4 , dunno |
| 15:20.05 | Tupone | probably you can get autotools source and compile on it without any problem |
| 15:20.34 | Tupone | but, why you need those? if you get the source tar ball at SF, you don't need autotools |
| 15:21.03 | Tupone | we already did the work for you |
| 15:21.40 | Pryde | when I try to compile the source downloaded from sourceforge it tells me "no targets specified and no makefile found" |
| 15:21.56 | Pryde | so I back up, do autogen.sh and configure |
| 15:21.58 | Tupone | did you ./configure it |
| 15:22.04 | Pryde | ndos |
| 15:22.07 | Pryde | nods |
| 15:22.09 | Tupone | don't autogen |
| 15:22.13 | Tupone | just configure |
| 15:22.29 | Pryde | ./configure tells me I am missing libcurl |
| 15:22.38 | Tupone | so you have to get it |
| 15:22.57 | Pryde | Did...thought I had it install.... |
| 15:23.02 | Pryde | apparently not |
| 15:23.22 | Tupone | you know it is installed if curl-config is a command |
| 15:23.26 | Pryde | too new to linux ....thinking I missed a step |
| 15:23.53 | Tupone | find / -name curl-config |
| 15:24.26 | Tupone | probably you installed in /usr/local/bin and that is not in your path |
| 15:24.48 | Pryde | hrmm....didn't find it |
| 15:25.05 | Pryde | gimme a sec...trying this again |
| 15:25.17 | Tupone | how have you installed libcurl? |
| 15:28.05 | Pryde | downloaded the tar.bz....expanded...followed the readme for compiling and installing |
| 15:28.27 | Pryde | checking to see if I got any errors on that effort |
| 15:30.38 | Pryde | hrmm |
| 15:35.57 | conanhome | Pimpinella: are you around? |
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| 15:36.53 | conanhome | Pimpinella: the server viper2.pimpi.org is a common server? nothing strange with it? a weird patch or something used there? |
| 15:37.15 | BearPerson | what about it? |
| 15:38.35 | conanhome | BearPerson: well i have some problems with a soft that queries information and it always crash when querying that server |
| 15:38.44 | BearPerson | hmm |
| 15:39.55 | conanhome | BearPerson: i'm using bzfquery.py (wich comes with bzflag, misc dir) |
| 15:40.45 | conanhome | BearPerson: the strange thing is that the function from bzfquery.py returns, but somehow the error i get is related with the inner working of that function |
| 15:41.11 | BearPerson | no idea then... |
| 15:50.32 | conanhome | BearPerson: here is a paste of the error: |
| 15:50.35 | conanhome | BearPerson: http://harpo.pastebin.com/573311 |
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| 15:51.08 | conanhome | BearPerson: struct.error: unpack str size does not match format |
| 15:51.32 | BearPerson | hmm |
| 15:51.43 | conanhome | BearPerson: the strange thing is that this is the famous "two castles" server, many people play there all day. |
| 15:51.44 | BearPerson | I'm afrai I'll have to pass on that one |
| 15:51.55 | BearPerson | I'm a cop there |
| 15:52.19 | conanhome | BearPerson: oh, no problem, someone else would read :) |
| 15:52.24 | BearPerson | but not really thot much into the networking protocol and stuff |
| 15:52.57 | conanhome | by the other side, bzfquery.py works perfectly with the rest of the servers, this is the only one that gives me the error |
| 15:53.10 | BearPerson | since when? |
| 15:53.30 | BearPerson | maybe it's something temporary that this server happens to have at this time |
| 15:54.07 | conanhome | BearPerson: that's the thing! i'm getting crazy with this, is not reproducible always |
| 15:54.33 | BearPerson | maybe put some print >>sys.stderr's around that place in the code |
| 16:02.20 | harpo | puta... |
| 16:02.24 | harpo | puta... |
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| 16:46.29 | Pimpinella | conanhome: there are a few server patches on viper, but none affecting networking |
| 16:46.53 | Pimpinella | other query scripts work fine with it |
| 16:50.01 | _Manu_ | hallo Pimpinella |
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| 17:01.33 | Gnurdux | when are things like userdbs written by the server? on shutdown? |
| 17:04.11 | brad2901 | no.. whenever it changes |
| 17:04.25 | Gnurdux | they are no written on shutdown? |
| 17:04.39 | brad2901 | no |
| 17:04.47 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 17:04.52 | Gnurdux | thnx |
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| 17:06.02 | Gnurdux | brad2901, is there a bzfs api event that fires on a bzdb change? |
| 17:06.20 | brad2901 | not sure, sorry |
| 17:06.40 | Gnurdux | k |
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| 17:06.46 | YOURDEAD | brad |
| 17:06.49 | YOURDEAD | come to my server |
| 17:06.59 | YOURDEAD | the name is City Warefare |
| 17:07.06 | brad2901 | no thanks, i'm busy |
| 17:07.19 | ruskie | lol |
| 17:09.17 | YOURDEAD | any 1 wana come? |
| 17:09.24 | CBG | Nope. |
| 17:09.26 | gsnedders | NO! |
| 17:10.31 | ruskie | :) |
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| 18:14.33 | PopeyetheCat | hello, anyone on who can suggest a way to troubleshoot 2.0.4 for Mac OS X? |
| 18:23.25 | gsnedders | too much spawn killing dangnamit! |
| 18:23.39 | gsnedders | a tank spawning on top of a BU... |
| 18:23.43 | ruskie | lol |
| 18:23.47 | ruskie | joy |
| 18:24.20 | gsnedders | then spawning into a teammates bullet... |
| 18:24.40 | gsnedders | and before that being SW'd as soon as i spawned at the base. |
| 18:24.44 | ruskie | lol |
| 18:24.51 | gsnedders | 3 spawn kills in 3 kills = me leaving. |
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| 18:45.54 | bz69 | ~bzfquery 72.240.86.218:5154 |
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| 18:55.25 | brlcad | harpo: something in particular you care to share? |
| 18:55.51 | brlcad | otherwise, watch the language in here please |
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| 19:14.27 | Thumper_ | conanhome: bzfquery.py for viper2.pimpi.org 5158 works for me using the v2_0branch code in CVS |
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| 19:15.54 | Thumper_ | conanhome: I take that back - fails sometimes :/ |
| 19:33.46 | Chestal | yes, bzfquery.py fails sometimes. Seems to depend on the players who are on a server. I made a half-hearted attempt to debug it once, but I do not know python |
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| 19:54.22 | menotume | Chestal: Myabe it has the same problem that was in the php script. Reads have to be retried, could be number of players is causing packets to become fragmented |
| 20:07.16 | _Manu_ | dunno menotume, it always fails at viper and works for silvercat |
| 20:08.18 | blast007 | menotume: yeah, I think it assumes it gets all the data in one read |
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| 20:11.27 | Gnurdux | couldn't read helpmsg file "Kayhelp.txt" |
| 20:11.33 | Gnurdux | why would i be getting that error? |
| 20:11.44 | Gnurdux | -helpmsg Kayhelp.txt rules |
| 20:12.08 | Gnurdux | brad2901 |
| 20:12.11 | blast007 | it means the file cant be found ;) |
| 20:12.17 | Gnurdux | but its right there |
| 20:12.49 | brad2901 | got the case right? |
| 20:13.02 | Gnurdux | got it |
| 20:13.07 | Gnurdux | it was a perms thing |
| 20:13.17 | brad2901 | ah |
| 20:17.14 | Gnurdux | no it wasnt |
| 20:17.18 | Gnurdux | it stil doent work |
| 20:17.24 | Gnurdux | but the file is right there |
| 20:17.32 | Gnurdux | brad2901, what could be going on |
| 20:18.03 | Gnurdux | brad2901 |
| 20:18.08 | brad2901 | hang on |
| 20:18.23 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03bthansen 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/SpawnPosition.cxx: Do not consider facing lasers above or below the spawn position as dangerous. |
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| 20:20.41 | brad2901 | Gnurdux: How many lines? |
| 20:20.46 | brad2901 | max is 15 iirc |
| 20:20.48 | Gnurdux | 1 |
| 20:20.52 | Gnurdux | all thrown together |
| 20:21.43 | brad2901 | have you tried -helpmsg ./Kayhelp.txt rules ? |
| 20:21.57 | brad2901 | don't know whether or not that would make a difference |
| 20:27.11 | Gnurdux | lemme see |
| 20:27.39 | Gnurdux | same pro |
| 20:27.40 | Gnurdux | b |
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| 20:28.34 | Thumper_ | Chestal: bzfquery.pl seems to fail intermittently on that server too |
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| 20:31.18 | Gnurdux | i fixed |
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| 20:31.33 | menotume | does bzfquery.py handle the MsgGameTime packet if it gets one ? |
| 20:32.06 | _Manu_ | blast007, yes, it's receiving fragmented packets |
| 20:32.08 | Thumper_ | menotume: I think so |
| 20:33.28 | _Manu_ | menotume, testing it with viper, when getting the data for the player 10 it gets only 44 bytes instead of 171 as expected |
| 20:33.48 | Thumper_ | menotume: it reads until the expected code (ap) is returned |
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| 20:34.39 | _Manu_ | just curious at viper always stoped at the same number of player :/ |
| 20:34.58 | Thumper_ | so it gets a short read with the right code and stops |
| 20:35.10 | Thumper_ | then tries to decode the data when it's incomplete (me thinks) |
| 20:35.15 | _Manu_ | yes it is |
| 20:35.29 | _Manu_ | the last get is only 44bytes instead of 171 |
| 20:35.36 | _Manu_ | that's why the program stops |
| 20:35.46 | _Manu_ | but still I wonder why |
| 20:36.09 | _Manu_ | I have been testing it with other servers and no fails, only viper failed |
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| 20:46.35 | _Manu_ | bzfquery.pl also fails, it displays only 9 players and dies |
| 20:46.55 | _Manu_ | so there is something wrong with viper :( |
| 20:48.49 | _Manu_ | the problem is not because the python version |
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| 20:51.26 | Gnurdux | what do i pass to ocnfigure so that it builds plugins? |
| 20:51.49 | Gnurdux | for 2.0.5 |
| 20:52.23 | Gnurdux | blast007, |
| 20:52.56 | blast007 | --enable-shared |
| 20:53.09 | Gnurdux | thnx |
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| 20:53.47 | blast007 | the problem is that the scripts don't actually read the headers to decide what each packet is, and how long they should be :/ |
| 20:53.56 | blast007 | it just assumes |
| 20:56.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03atupone * 10bzflag/TODO: Suggested changes for jumping with inertia & dropping bad flag check |
| 21:02.30 | trepan | Thumper_: "twentyDegrees", funny ;) |
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| 22:10.00 | slon02 | :( |
| 22:10.23 | brlcad | :( |
| 22:10.30 | brlcad | heh |
| 22:10.34 | PuMpErNi1kLe | o_O |
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| 22:27.29 | spldart | Good grief... I know Airlink is a pos but $7.95 for a pci 802.11G at Fry's?!?!?! |
| 22:28.00 | trepan | brlcad: added a 'distance' alternate for drawInfo lengthPerPixel (assumes 60 degrees FOV and 1024 pixels) |
| 22:28.32 | trepan | easier for folks to understand... |
| 22:31.05 | brlcad | :) |
| 22:32.01 | trepan | you still planning on rigging the format into brlcad? |
| 22:33.07 | brlcad | yep, was working on it a bit last weekend |
| 22:34.01 | trepan | ok, have a few new material keywords, a new tiered material structure, light objects, etc... coming your way |
| 22:34.03 | brlcad | didn't realize until recently that there's a pretty quick path already using modeltool |
| 22:34.24 | brlcad | still want to go direct, so that the lods can be done and other map preservations |
| 22:34.50 | trepan | loading from drawInfo might be problematic |
| 22:35.06 | trepan | they've gone and gotten themselves vertex attributes |
| 22:36.34 | trepan | ex: drawinfo \n attrib tangent vec3 texcoord3 \n tangent 1.2 3.4 5.6 \n etc... |
| 22:36.46 | brlcad | hm |
| 22:36.57 | trepan | (used hard attrib ID bindings so that display lists could still be used) |
| 22:37.04 | trepan | shared, that is |
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| 22:50.43 | Gnurdux | someone on a server is repeatedly trying to guess admin pass |
| 22:50.47 | Gnurdux | and ischanging IP |
| 22:50.56 | Gnurdux | he is using callsign h4x0r |
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| 22:52.34 | BinarySpike | Nobody would know how EndShotCredit works would they? |
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| 22:53.00 | BinarySpike | I see in MsgShotEnd that EndShotCredit++ |
| 22:53.10 | Tupone | EndShotCredit will be removed on 2.2 :~ |
| 22:53.29 | BinarySpike | but only if you have Guided missle, are joining or have shield does it go down... |
| 22:53.52 | Tupone | or if you cheat |
| 22:54.10 | BinarySpike | there are only three places in bzfs that it goes down |
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| 22:55.00 | Tupone | if yu want to know better ask manu when is here |
| 22:55.09 | BinarySpike | ah |
| 22:55.24 | BinarySpike | Hey wait... your the guy that broke bzadmin *narrows eyes* |
| 22:55.48 | Tupone | I borked everything |
| 22:55.56 | BinarySpike | *flashback* wrong joining code |
| 22:55.57 | BinarySpike | :-P |
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| 22:56.49 | Tupone | BinarySpike: but I'm also the guy who make it works again |
| 22:56.55 | Tupone | made |
| 22:56.56 | Gnurdux | i have a problem |
| 22:56.58 | BinarySpike | lol, I know |
| 22:57.06 | BinarySpike | yes Gnurdux? |
| 22:57.06 | Gnurdux | brad2901 connected to a server i am hosting |
| 22:57.19 | Gnurdux | and got himself banned |
| 22:57.22 | brad2901 | *oops* |
| 22:57.27 | Gnurdux | he was connected through my shell accound |
| 22:57.44 | Gnurdux | so, how can i get myself unbanned wihtou shutting down server? |
| 22:58.02 | Gnurdux | or at least be able to someone explain situation to people on server |
| 22:58.16 | BinarySpike | remove the name from the banlist and get somebody to do a /reload |
| 22:58.24 | Gnurdux | its solved |
| 22:58.26 | *** part/#bzflag Gnurdux (n=gnurdux@c-69-251-241-119.hsd1.md.comcast.net) |
| 22:58.46 | *** join/#bzflag Blue_Eyes (n=Blue@host226-148.pool8260.interbusiness.it) |
| 22:59.19 | BinarySpike | Shots that expire on thier own (hence the reload is done) does BZFlag send a MsgShotEnd? |
| 22:59.53 | purple_cow | BinarySpike: iirc MsgShotEnd is only for shots that end early |
| 22:59.55 | purple_cow | like GMs |
| 23:00.11 | BinarySpike | k |
| 23:00.13 | BinarySpike | I understand now |
| 23:00.20 | purple_cow | don't quote me on that though |
| 23:00.54 | BinarySpike | well that's enough info to know that it's impossible then with EndShotCredits |
| 23:03.27 | *** join/#bzflag BWD (i=bdotson@pdpc/supporter/student/bdotson) |
| 23:21.50 | *** join/#bzflag silverfox (i=vircuser@68-116-47-254.static.mdfd.or.charter.com) |
| 23:22.59 | *** join/#bzflag zee659 (n=d20bbc0f@zeebrothers.net) |
| 23:33.04 | *** join/#bzflag sussi (n=su@83-221-81-192.cable2.primacom.net) |
| 23:49.43 | trepan | could someone join trepan.homelinux.net:5154, save the map as normal bzw, and pastebin it? |
| 23:53.41 | meacan | trepan: http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/43274 |
| 23:54.50 | trepan | meacan: thanks, looks ok |
| 23:56.08 | silverfox | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/43276 |
| 23:57.22 | trepan | silverfox: thank to you too, they both look good |
| 23:57.43 | silverfox | http://silvercat.bzflag.org/index.php?module=photoalbum&PHPWS_Photo_op=print |
