| 00:41.47 | *** join/#bzflag jbauman (i=Johnq@JBAUMAN.WV.CC.cmu.edu) |
| 00:56.08 | *** join/#bzflag spldart (n=spldart@cpe-67-10-221-4.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 01:06.43 | *** join/#bzflag Dexi (n=dexi@63-227-55-174.hlrn.qwest.net) |
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| 01:07.30 | Dexi | Hi all. ive got a server joining issue, if anyone wants to help. |
| 01:07.45 | Dexi | says "World cache files dissapeared. Join Cancelled" Ideas? solutions? |
| 01:08.25 | *** join/#bzflag sanesWONG (n=ca86027e@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 01:08.38 | Dexi | anyone? |
| 01:10.04 | Dexi | Hello? |
| 01:10.04 | *** join/#bzflag Fiesta-Net (n=ca86027e@webchat.bzflag.bz) |
| 01:10.10 | Dexi | anyone here? |
| 01:10.13 | lan56 | yes |
| 01:10.18 | Dexi | hi |
| 01:10.28 | lan56 | someone who knows should help in a short matter of time |
| 01:10.38 | Dexi | alright then. |
| 01:10.40 | Dexi | hum |
| 01:10.44 | lan56 | usually questions are answered within minutes, rather than on the spot |
| 01:10.54 | Dexi | ill chill for a bit then. |
| 01:11.05 | Fiesta-Net | jancok |
| 01:11.22 | lan56 | I might be able to get around to looking at the source which might answer your question shortly, should nobody respond by then, Dexi |
| 01:11.27 | Fiesta-Net | iam not understand whot2 |
| 01:11.35 | Fiesta-Net | juancokkkkkkkkkk |
| 01:11.35 | Dexi | thanks |
| 01:11.36 | Fiesta-Net | tempek |
| 01:11.38 | Fiesta-Net | kerek |
| 01:12.06 | Fiesta-Net | asyu server njuancuki pol |
| 01:12.31 | eXtreme | in english please |
| 01:23.58 | brlcad | Dexi: there are cache files in your home directory, they mysteriously disappeared while the game was running? |
| 01:24.04 | brlcad | s/?/./ |
| 01:24.25 | *** part/#bzflag quantumdot (n=Juan@MN2-GA-u-0309.mc.onolab.com) |
| 01:24.40 | Dexi | not sure |
| 01:24.41 | brlcad | i.e. you connect to a server, the world map is downloaded, a cached version of the map is stored on disk |
| 01:24.43 | Dexi | thats all the message i got |
| 01:25.04 | Dexi | i just downloaded it. tried reinstalling, tried other servers. same message |
| 01:25.08 | brlcad | then you connect again sometime later, but now the cache file is suddenly gone |
| 01:25.18 | Dexi | its been gone since i signed on |
| 01:25.20 | Dexi | er |
| 01:25.26 | brlcad | have you connected to any server? |
| 01:25.26 | Dexi | ive never seen it work |
| 01:25.30 | brlcad | hmm |
| 01:25.33 | Dexi | not successfully |
| 01:25.38 | brlcad | have you ever played bz before? |
| 01:25.42 | brlcad | previous version perhaps |
| 01:25.57 | Dexi | nope. |
| 01:25.58 | *** join/#bzflag TD-Linux (n=TD-Linux@24-159-197-101.dhcp.roch.mn.charter.com) |
| 01:26.00 | Dexi | sorry. |
| 01:26.40 | brlcad | that's really bizarre. hmm. |
| 01:27.03 | Dexi | could it be a firewall issue? |
| 01:27.12 | lan56 | what os are you using? |
| 01:27.21 | Dexi | XP pro |
| 01:28.47 | blast007 | you could try deleting the My BZFlag Files directory from your My Documents, and then try the game again |
| 01:29.08 | brlcad | Dexi: not likely |
| 01:29.49 | brlcad | for some reason it thinks you have a cache file when you start the game, though you've never played as you said.. |
| 01:29.51 | Dexi | ill see where it is. My Documents isnt where it would be... its in the installed folder on C: somewhere |
| 01:30.16 | Dexi | yes, br1cad |
| 01:30.19 | brlcad | Dexi: BZFlag stores files in a folder in My Documents called that |
| 01:30.25 | Dexi | l* |
| 01:30.31 | Dexi | hum |
| 01:30.32 | Dexi | well maybe |
| 01:30.34 | Dexi | ill go look |
| 01:30.49 | blast007 | ;) |
| 01:30.56 | Dexi | lol |
| 01:32.13 | Dexi | theres no folder in my documents titled "BZFlag Files" |
| 01:32.17 | Dexi | that may be the problem |
| 01:32.31 | spldart | umm |
| 01:32.40 | spldart | shouldn't it have created one the first time it's run |
| 01:32.42 | spldart | ? |
| 01:33.00 | Dexi | well My Documents is set as a shared drive |
| 01:33.05 | spldart | My BZFlag Files |
| 01:33.07 | Dexi | instead of whatever it is regularly |
| 01:33.08 | spldart | BTW |
| 01:33.17 | Dexi | oh hum. maybe thats there... |
| 01:34.05 | spldart | I run Xp Pro and Debian dual boots on just about all machines :) |
| 01:34.19 | Dexi | nope. still not there |
| 01:34.24 | spldart | So if it's a relatively new bzflag install then it should be there |
| 01:34.32 | spldart | that's a problem methinks |
| 01:34.36 | TD-Linux | I heard of some issues with My Documents on shared drives |
| 01:34.43 | brlcad | Dexi: danka |
| 01:34.56 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: ack, release the world cache if the world fails to unpack. apparently if this happens on the very first connection, you end up with a bogus cache state... |
| 01:34.57 | Dexi | you mean, Danke? |
| 01:35.13 | brlcad | that too |
| 01:35.26 | Dexi | lol |
| 01:35.32 | Dexi | i took german for a couple years |
| 01:35.34 | *** join/#bzflag JBGood (i=Johnq@JBAUMAN.RES.cmu.edu) |
| 01:35.40 | Dexi | wait... what CIA? |
| 01:36.07 | TD-Linux | CIA says when code was modified and commited |
| 01:36.10 | spldart | he's reporting a possible bug in code |
| 01:36.13 | spldart | oopsy |
| 01:36.15 | spldart | sorry |
| 01:36.30 | Dexi | ah. well that might be my issue. |
| 01:36.37 | Dexi | oh and its 2.0.4 if anyone cares... |
| 01:36.50 | brlcad | same place as the cache? |
| 01:36.58 | TD-Linux | yes |
| 01:37.18 | TD-Linux | I think |
| 01:37.27 | spldart | C:\Documents and Settings\James\My Documents\My BZFlag Files\2.0\config.cfg |
| 01:37.29 | TD-Linux | dunno, kubuntu is better :) |
| 01:37.46 | spldart | 2.0.5b4 here |
| 01:38.19 | Dexi | yup |
| 01:38.20 | Dexi | there we are |
| 01:38.22 | spldart | oopsy.. 2.0.5b5 |
| 01:39.02 | Dexi | C:\Documents and Settings\Matt\My Documents\----------No My BZFlag Files----- |
| 01:39.10 | spldart | :( |
| 01:39.22 | brlcad | what version are you running? |
| 01:39.28 | brlcad | ahh, never mind |
| 01:39.34 | spldart | hehe |
| 01:40.13 | TD-Linux | that's quite oddistic |
| 01:40.46 | brlcad | yeah, can you create that directory manually? |
| 01:40.59 | brlcad | named exactly "My BZFlag Files" |
| 01:42.23 | brlcad | it should have created that directory long before attempting to connect |
| 01:42.23 | spldart | um |
| 01:42.41 | spldart | would it be safe for me to host my My BZFlag files for him to download and place? |
| 01:42.53 | spldart | or does it contain stuff like my username and password? |
| 01:43.05 | Dexi | i wouldnt do it anyway |
| 01:43.07 | brlcad | yeah, it should |
| 01:43.08 | TD-Linux | it includes your username and password in your config file |
| 01:43.08 | Dexi | i could manually do it |
| 01:43.15 | spldart | ok... I won't |
| 01:43.30 | TD-Linux | you can delete your password and username from the config with notepad, though |
| 01:43.35 | spldart | ah |
| 01:43.42 | brlcad | or just remove them in the game and quit |
| 01:43.56 | Dexi | wait |
| 01:44.00 | Dexi | cant i just make it on my own |
| 01:44.05 | brlcad | Dexi: what does it do if you just start bzflag and then quit? |
| 01:44.06 | Dexi | and place the files in that are needed? |
| 01:44.12 | Dexi | no errors |
| 01:44.16 | brlcad | it should create the directory if you do that much |
| 01:44.27 | brlcad | if it doesn't, something else is wrong |
| 01:44.34 | Dexi | so start and quit a few times |
| 01:44.38 | Dexi | and see if it creates it? |
| 01:44.42 | brlcad | sure |
| 01:44.45 | brlcad | even after just once |
| 01:44.49 | Dexi | alright |
| 01:44.49 | brlcad | without trying to connect to a server |
| 01:44.55 | Dexi | k\ |
| 01:45.10 | menotume | are there any darwin builds/packages of 2.0.5 (cvs) ? |
| 01:45.19 | brlcad | if it doesn't work the first time, then try changing some settings, like entering a player name |
| 01:45.23 | brlcad | then quit |
| 01:45.24 | spldart | http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/MyBZFlagFiles |
| 01:45.30 | brlcad | menotume: sure, on my desktop |
| 01:45.38 | spldart | Put the spaces back in and then change the settings to your liking |
| 01:46.07 | menotume | there are major problems with cheats and accusations |
| 01:46.07 | Dexi | wait, for me, that is? |
| 01:46.11 | spldart | ah crap |
| 01:46.21 | menotume | some people want to upgrade, so as to releive accusations |
| 01:46.29 | spldart | I need to zip it or something |
| 01:46.40 | Dexi | maybe if i get a newer version it will work? |
| 01:46.45 | menotume | spldart : 403 on that page |
| 01:46.56 | Dexi | im under the assumption theres a 2.0.5 |
| 01:47.01 | Dexi | and i have 2.0.4 |
| 01:47.02 | TD-Linux | there is |
| 01:47.26 | TD-Linux | 2.0.5 is 'unstable' but it's more stable than 2.0.4 I've found :P |
| 01:47.40 | Dexi | link to get it? |
| 01:47.50 | spldart | I know... I forgot how I had apache setup |
| 01:47.52 | TD-Linux | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6661 |
| 01:48.12 | brlcad | menotume: false sense of security of course |
| 01:48.19 | menotume | yes |
| 01:48.24 | brlcad | the same "patches" to 2.0.4 can be made to 2.0.5+ |
| 01:48.37 | brlcad | and I'd bet already have been made |
| 01:50.46 | *** join/#bzflag Dex (n=dexi@63-227-55-174.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 01:50.56 | Dex | damn wireless |
| 01:50.57 | spldart | don't have a zip proggie on this rig so http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/Image.nrg' |
| 01:50.58 | Dex | sorry |
| 01:51.08 | spldart | http://spldart.bakadigital.com:91/Image.nrg no apostrephe |
| 01:51.18 | spldart | anywho.. just trying to help :( |
| 01:52.35 | Dex | dinner |
| 01:52.36 | Dex | bye |
| 01:52.40 | *** part/#bzflag Dex (n=dexi@63-227-55-174.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 01:52.40 | spldart | bye |
| 01:53.22 | uso | some gu admin please to 5154, boob bob, trying to selfcap all the time |
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| 02:12.39 | TD-Linux | man, uvmapping is hard |
| 02:16.24 | *** join/#bzflag Dex (n=dexi@63-227-55-174.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 02:16.29 | Dex | im back |
| 02:19.24 | spldart | :) |
| 02:19.49 | Dex | :) |
| 02:20.10 | Dex | come up with any ideas while i consumed my hotdog and mac n cheese? |
| 02:20.41 | spldart | lol.. no... Was thinking about it though :) hehe |
| 02:20.46 | Dex | lol |
| 02:20.54 | spldart | It's the thought that counts |
| 02:21.05 | Dex | well. true |
| 02:21.12 | spldart | hrm |
| 02:21.14 | spldart | I wonder |
| 02:21.15 | Dex | but thought isnt getting me any closer to BZFlag |
| 02:21.18 | spldart | lemme try something |
| 02:21.46 | Dex | k |
| 02:22.50 | spldart | hrm... |
| 02:22.54 | spldart | crap.. well |
| 02:23.22 | spldart | I just renamed my 'my bzflag files' in my documents and then started the client |
| 02:23.36 | spldart | it just created a new 'my bzflag files' with default settings |
| 02:24.06 | Dex | link me to 2.0.5 maybe if im running that, i wont have issues |
| 02:24.07 | spldart | so the network 'my documents' thing is suspect in your case methinks and as I believe someone else thought |
| 02:24.51 | spldart | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6661 |
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| 02:25.10 | spldart | But I don't think an upgrade from 2.0.4 to 2.0.5b5 will help you in this case |
| 02:25.15 | spldart | :( |
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| 02:25.16 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JBdiGriz] by ChanServ |
| 02:25.59 | Dex | i could manually place a folder in there... |
| 02:26.05 | Dex | is that all it has to be |
| 02:26.06 | Dex | a folder |
| 02:26.12 | Dex | or what files need to be in it? |
| 02:26.25 | spldart | I think it needs the folder, sub folders and specifically the config.cfg file |
| 02:26.33 | spldart | which is what I posted a nero image of |
| 02:26.55 | spldart | of course that is with my settings so it would have to be changed if it worked |
| 02:27.11 | spldart | what was the symptom again? |
| 02:32.23 | blast007 | the problem is that it's supposed to create it |
| 02:32.45 | spldart | Now what I meant but yeah |
| 02:32.55 | Dex | symptom: "world cache files dissapeared. Join Cancelled" |
| 02:33.04 | spldart | ah |
| 02:33.40 | spldart | well crap.. |
| 02:34.01 | spldart | I don't thjnk the 2.0.5 will help but try it anyway :shrug: |
| 02:34.02 | blast007 | oh let's see...is the My Documents set to something like \\server\share\stuff\, or something like g:\stuff\ ? |
| 02:34.34 | blast007 | Dex: because it should work if the network share is mapped to a drive letter |
| 02:34.51 | blast007 | but if it's using \\server\share\ style, then it won't |
| 02:35.08 | Dex | well then theres the problem... |
| 02:35.13 | blast007 | just recalled that |
| 02:35.15 | trepan | could try setting -configdir to a simple drive that you have access to |
| 02:35.27 | Dex | such as C:? |
| 02:35.37 | trepan | C:\BZ might be better ;) |
| 02:35.41 | blast007 | hehe |
| 02:36.12 | Dex | well yeah |
| 02:36.14 | Dex | ok |
| 02:36.18 | Dex | so what exactly should i do? |
| 02:36.26 | trepan | you'd have to use it everytime you start bzflag (or place it in your "link", forget the winny terminology) |
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| 02:36.47 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o JeffM2501] by ChanServ |
| 02:37.21 | Dex | im so confused |
| 02:37.22 | Dex | sorry |
| 02:37.40 | Dex | im distracted... |
| 02:37.40 | Dex | girlfriend trouble |
| 02:37.40 | Dex | maybe i should come back to this later... |
| 02:38.04 | spldart | lol |
| 02:38.15 | spldart | I'm going through my second divorce. |
| 02:38.18 | spldart | I empathise |
| 02:38.23 | spldart | 'sp' |
| 02:39.10 | *** join/#bzflag olpen (n=c1da5a17@zeebrothers.net) |
| 02:39.16 | Dex | yikes |
| 02:39.24 | spldart | heh |
| 02:39.57 | spldart | Give up women and live on bzflag and booze :) |
| 02:40.18 | Dex | the give up women part i already came up with |
| 02:40.30 | Dex | but i have more of a life than.... a game that doesnt work :) |
| 02:40.55 | spldart | lol |
| 02:40.57 | spldart | ok |
| 02:41.00 | spldart | take up linux |
| 02:41.02 | spldart | ;) |
| 02:41.51 | Dex | need it first... |
| 02:41.57 | Dex | and i need a drive to put it on |
| 02:42.07 | Dex | because i dont want the chance of killing my windows drive |
| 02:42.15 | spldart | ah |
| 02:42.56 | spldart | JeffM steered my onto Debian and I'm very happy with it so when you do get around to trying linux I highly recommend Debian :) and it dual boots nicely with winxp using grub |
| 02:43.53 | spldart | Not to say that any other linux wouldn't nicely dual boot with winxp ;) |
| 02:43.58 | spldart | But I digress |
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| 02:44.32 | JeffM2501 | they all prety much use grub |
| 02:45.51 | Dex | im.so.cold. |
| 02:46.06 | Dex | we were supposed to get 8-12 inches of snow... |
| 02:46.07 | spldart | hehe |
| 02:46.11 | Dex | i was expecting no school |
| 02:46.13 | Dex | i woke up |
| 02:46.13 | spldart | lilo dead? |
| 02:46.18 | Dex | looked out my window.. |
| 02:46.28 | JeffM2501 | gub is just the common default |
| 02:46.28 | Dex | there was about... 1 inch |
| 02:46.32 | Kuiman | ~bzfquery rafaelleano.homedns.org:5154 |
| 02:46.34 | Dex | weather people suck... |
| 02:46.38 | spldart | yes they do |
| 02:46.56 | spldart | well.. I prefer grub over ntldr |
| 02:46.57 | Dex | but its been snowing all day |
| 02:47.00 | Dex | maybe tomorrow |
| 02:47.04 | Dex | we wont have school |
| 02:47.05 | spldart | hehe |
| 02:48.32 | Dex | maybe its something about freshmen... |
| 02:48.37 | purple_cow | oof, raid 0? |
| 02:48.45 | spldart | I need crazy speed |
| 02:48.48 | spldart | video editing |
| 02:48.54 | purple_cow | and no reliability? |
| 02:48.56 | Dex | i sit next to a model in Bio |
| 02:48.57 | spldart | yep |
| 02:48.58 | Dex | she was in vogue... |
| 02:49.06 | Dex | shes actually a pretty fun person... |
| 02:49.16 | JeffM2501 | Dex, you can stop now.. ok |
| 02:49.20 | Dex | lol |
| 02:49.21 | spldart | LOL |
| 02:49.25 | Dex | ok |
| 02:49.34 | JeffM2501 | what that has to do with bzflag, I don't know |
| 02:49.49 | Dex | well... actually |
| 02:49.52 | spldart | LOL |
| 02:49.53 | JeffM2501 | maybe you'd have better luck with women if you let them talk for once instead of babbling on and on |
| 02:50.06 | spldart | did you try to map a drive or whateva that other dude said? |
| 02:50.14 | Dex | i cant concentrate on my problem because of the girl... which means i cant cure my BZFlag issue. in which case i cant play... |
| 02:50.18 | Dex | map what? |
| 02:50.19 | Dex | no |
| 02:50.23 | Dex | i dont know what he said |
| 02:50.35 | JeffM2501 | what is your "bzflag issue"? |
| 02:50.36 | Dex | nor how it would connect |
| 02:51.00 | spldart | checking |
| 02:51.01 | Dex | when i try to connect i get the error "World cache dissapeared. Join Cancelled" |
| 02:51.25 | JeffM2501 | you have a virus program that is jacking with your cache? |
| 02:51.45 | Dex | ??? |
| 02:51.50 | Dex | i just download it |
| 02:51.52 | JeffM2501 | or a wierd location for your "my documents" folder? |
| 02:51.53 | Dex | tried to sign on |
| 02:51.55 | Dex | didnt work |
| 02:51.59 | Dex | yeah |
| 02:52.02 | spldart | the second thing jeff |
| 02:52.02 | Dex | thats the one |
| 02:52.04 | Dex | the second one |
| 02:52.09 | spldart | my documents is on network |
| 02:52.12 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 02:52.15 | JeffM2501 | what version? |
| 02:52.23 | Dex | 2.0.4 |
| 02:52.31 | JeffM2501 | in current versions you can use a command line arg to set the dir |
| 02:52.38 | JeffM2501 | get the currrent 2.0.5 version |
| 02:52.46 | spldart | oooOOOooo |
| 02:53.00 | spldart | I didn't know that... 2.0.5 and a modified shortcut for you :) |
| 02:53.08 | Dex | ok |
| 02:53.14 | Dex | where is 2.0.5 i didnt find it on the site |
| 02:53.21 | JeffM2501 | it's in beta |
| 02:53.24 | JeffM2501 | get it from the froums |
| 02:53.33 | spldart | I linked yah de |
| 02:53.33 | Dex | ill look around... |
| 02:53.35 | spldart | x |
| 02:53.36 | Dex | oh |
| 02:53.37 | Dex | you did |
| 02:53.45 | Dex | one sec |
| 02:54.02 | Dex | this? |
| 02:54.03 | Dex | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=6661 |
| 02:54.14 | spldart | yep |
| 02:54.18 | spldart | TDLinux linked yah too |
| 02:54.18 | Dex | k |
| 02:54.33 | Dex | downloading... |
| 02:54.36 | spldart | kew |
| 02:54.44 | Dex | this is very uncomfortable... |
| 02:54.54 | Dex | did i tell you about how my chair fell apart on me? |
| 02:55.01 | Dex | the three back legs of my chair broke off |
| 02:55.04 | JeffM2501 | you don't have to |
| 02:55.08 | Dex | it hurt. |
| 02:55.12 | spldart | that and the command line that jeff is helping yah with should get it :) |
| 02:55.18 | Dex | kk |
| 02:55.18 | spldart | LOL |
| 02:55.19 | Dex | thanks\ |
| 02:55.29 | Dex | 15% |
| 02:55.44 | Dex | actually |
| 02:55.46 | JeffM2501 | I dono if he keeps babbling like that I'm not inclined to help him out |
| 02:55.47 | spldart | Did a moose ever bite your sister? |
| 02:55.57 | spldart | sorry |
| 02:56.02 | Dex | in about 3 minutes im going to go watch 2 and a half men. so if i have issues later, ill come back |
| 02:56.02 | *** join/#bzflag PuMpErNiCkLe (n=Moitd@CPE000d8802a749-CM0012c9a9a6dc.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 02:56.13 | spldart | the conversation was more serious during the few moments you were offline |
| 02:56.15 | Dex | sorry Jeff |
| 02:56.18 | spldart | about his problem |
| 02:56.21 | Dex | im just a little pissed off |
| 02:56.22 | Dex | ill stop |
| 02:56.40 | spldart | catch you later dex |
| 02:56.46 | Dex | bye spldart |
| 02:57.40 | JeffM2501 | it's -configdir |
| 02:57.48 | JeffM2501 | then just give it a local path name |
| 02:57.52 | JeffM2501 | and it'll use that instead |
| 02:58.05 | Dex | alright |
| 02:58.06 | spldart | so... you can use that in the shortcut to fix this kind of problem? |
| 02:58.07 | Dex | ill look for it |
| 02:58.11 | Dex | 55% right now |
| 02:58.16 | JeffM2501 | that's what I made it for |
| 02:58.21 | spldart | sweet |
| 02:58.26 | JeffM2501 | there is no "look for it" |
| 02:58.33 | Dex | i mean |
| 02:58.33 | JeffM2501 | you have to put it in your shortcut |
| 02:58.38 | Dex | the exact path of My Documents |
| 02:58.40 | spldart | Def do C:/BZ Dex |
| 02:58.45 | Dex | oh |
| 02:58.48 | Dex | alright |
| 02:58.49 | Dex | create one? |
| 02:58.52 | spldart | keep it local |
| 02:58.56 | JeffM2501 | it'll make it for you |
| 02:58.56 | Dex | good idea |
| 02:59.02 | Dex | l |
| 02:59.04 | JeffM2501 | it just needs the path |
| 02:59.06 | Dex | k* |
| 02:59.09 | Dex | alright |
| 02:59.10 | Dex | will do. |
| 02:59.15 | JeffM2501 | it KNOWS the path to your docs |
| 02:59.15 | Dex | 72% |
| 02:59.24 | JeffM2501 | we DON'T NEED TO KNOW YOUR DOWNLAOD |
| 02:59.28 | JeffM2501 | nor do we care |
| 02:59.29 | Dex | lol |
| 02:59.31 | Dex | alright |
| 02:59.32 | JeffM2501 | damn man |
| 02:59.33 | Dex | fine. |
| 02:59.42 | JeffM2501 | are you off your meds or something? |
| 02:59.52 | Dex | ... |
| 03:06.35 | Kuiman | ~bzfquery rafaelleano.homedns.org:5154 |
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| 03:07.58 | Dexi | k i downloaded and isntalled but im not sure what i do to set the path |
| 03:08.36 | JeffM2501 | right click on the shortcut |
| 03:08.39 | JeffM2501 | hit properties |
| 03:08.49 | JeffM2501 | in the section that says "target" |
| 03:09.05 | JeffM2501 | add -configdir c:\bz after the " part |
| 03:09.41 | Dexi | k |
| 03:10.48 | Dexi | alright ill test that |
| 03:11.17 | Dexi | ah! |
| 03:11.20 | spldart | Woop! |
| 03:11.29 | Dexi | unknown option "-configdir" |
| 03:11.36 | Dexi | then a crapload error thing |
| 03:11.41 | spldart | :( |
| 03:11.52 | JeffM2501 | what version did you download? |
| 03:12.02 | spldart | should be 2.0.5b5 |
| 03:12.06 | spldart | ??? |
| 03:12.14 | JeffM2501 | guess it didn't make that build then |
| 03:12.29 | Dexi | hum... |
| 03:12.48 | spldart | what's your c:programfiles/bzflagversion? |
| 03:12.59 | Dexi | 2.0.5? |
| 03:13.56 | spldart | IE: I'm C:\Program Files\BZFlag2.0.5b5 |
| 03:14.40 | spldart | We linked him to the thread releasing beta b5 jeff :( |
| 03:14.51 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 03:14.56 | JeffM2501 | then b5 dosn't have it |
| 03:15.02 | spldart | Sorry Dexi |
| 03:15.06 | JeffM2501 | noone ever said b5 was the end all be all version |
| 03:16.16 | JeffM2501 | I don't reember when I added it, but b5 is rather old IIRC |
| 03:19.22 | spldart | I think Dexi is frustrated :( |
| 03:20.19 | spldart | yah know what... a Terabyte is alot 8-0 |
| 03:20.22 | blast007 | 2.0.5b4 shows it in the -help options |
| 03:20.37 | JeffM2501 | then maybe he just did it wrong |
| 03:20.44 | blast007 | Dexi: are you sure you are using the 2.0.5b5 shortcut? |
| 03:21.22 | blast007 | wait, it says it's invalid for me too |
| 03:21.27 | blast007 | let me check the source |
| 03:22.21 | JeffM2501 | it's in parseConfigName in bzflag.cxx |
| 03:23.05 | blast007 | just tried with the latest 2.0 CVS...same thing |
| 03:23.14 | JeffM2501 | actualy I think it's buged |
| 03:23.34 | JeffM2501 | it is |
| 03:23.39 | JeffM2501 | stupid parse function |
| 03:24.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/bzflag.cxx: dont' tread configdir as an invalid param, it was parsed WAY before parse |
| 03:25.19 | Dexi | ugh |
| 03:26.04 | Dexi | and yes im sure im using the 2.0.5b5 shortcutr |
| 03:26.08 | Dexi | shortcut* |
| 03:26.13 | blast007 | Dexi: it was a bug in the source :) |
| 03:26.15 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't work |
| 03:26.17 | blast007 | nothing with you |
| 03:26.26 | JeffM2501 | why is your profile on a network volume anyway? |
| 03:26.46 | blast007 | if he mapped a drive to the share and used that for his My Documents it should work |
| 03:26.56 | blast007 | right now it's in the \\server\whatever\ format |
| 03:27.02 | blast007 | which is why BZ pukes |
| 03:27.06 | JeffM2501 | no, cus the game gets it from the OS |
| 03:27.12 | JeffM2501 | so it'll allways get \\ |
| 03:27.24 | blast007 | no, I mean if he changes where My Documents points to |
| 03:27.31 | JeffM2501 | that's not that easy |
| 03:27.34 | blast007 | point it to a mapped drive |
| 03:27.38 | JeffM2501 | if he can do that, then just point it local |
| 03:27.51 | JeffM2501 | usualy it's remote due to a domain |
| 03:28.01 | JeffM2501 | simplest thing is to just play as a local user |
| 03:28.04 | JeffM2501 | not a domain one |
| 03:29.25 | JeffM2501 | or just wait for this build to be done |
| 03:30.53 | Dexi | ETA? |
| 03:31.02 | JeffM2501 | when it's done |
| 03:31.08 | blast007 | sometime between now and never |
| 03:31.19 | Dexi | thanks. ill mark my calander |
| 03:31.35 | blast007 | just have patience ;) |
| 03:31.48 | Dexi | k |
| 03:31.50 | JeffM2501 | bahh I don't have NSiS 2 here |
| 03:33.08 | blast007 | I can probably get to it, unless you want to install that |
| 03:33.17 | JeffM2501 | oh I just installed it |
| 03:33.27 | Dexi | hey |
| 03:33.30 | blast007 | ~k |
| 03:33.31 | ibot | from memory, k is okay |
| 03:33.32 | blast007 | k* |
| 03:33.37 | blast007 | hehe |
| 03:33.41 | Dexi | my AIM sn if CellularZipper, when b6 is out, send me a msg? |
| 03:33.57 | Dexi | ----------is* |
| 03:34.04 | Dexi | damn... im good. right on the spot... |
| 03:34.52 | JeffM2501 | umm no |
| 03:34.59 | Dexi | k |
| 03:35.03 | Dexi | see ya then. |
| 03:35.06 | JeffM2501 | it'll be posted on the fourms like normal |
| 03:35.11 | Dexi | alright |
| 03:35.44 | JeffM2501 | bahh... have to do the man pages |
| 03:35.57 | blast007 | man2html? |
| 03:36.00 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 03:36.02 | JeffM2501 | it's a pain |
| 03:36.15 | blast007 | I did it once...quite a while ago.. :/ |
| 03:36.31 | JeffM2501 | I'm just looking for one I've allready done :) |
| 03:37.12 | blast007 | hehe |
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| 03:44.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/package/win32/nsis/BZFlag.nsi: b6 and premade libcurl now wants zlib |
| 03:47.29 | JeffM_ | done |
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| 04:03.38 | spldart | night all |
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| 05:11.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/include/common.h: the common header needs to also work with C and Obj-C compilers so protect the namespace inline template junk with __cplusplus and provide a preprocessor alternate just in case |
| 05:21.54 | SportChick | learner: ping |
| 05:21.56 | SportChick | brlcad: ping |
| 05:22.00 | SportChick | jeff: ping |
| 05:24.28 | brlcad | what's up |
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| 08:04.28 | Mr_Molez | LePoulpe304: morning |
| 08:09.02 | LePoulpe304 | heya senor molez |
| 08:12.42 | Mr_Molez | LePoulpe303: anything new happening ? |
| 08:13.04 | LePoulpe303 | Mr_Molez: nope , sry |
| 08:13.07 | LePoulpe303 | and u ? |
| 08:13.17 | Mr_Molez | same old |
| 08:13.54 | LePoulpe303 | and i'm currently in discussion in a other company ; if i change my job in 3 months, no more irc and bzflag during day i think :( |
| 08:14.33 | Mr_Molez | oh my. You will be paid more for the sacrifice i hope ;) |
| 08:16.52 | LePoulpe303 | nope |
| 08:17.05 | Mr_Molez | eep |
| 08:17.10 | LePoulpe303 | i hate so much my currnt comany that i'm ready to quit for same wage |
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| 14:43.34 | romfis | Chestal ? |
| 14:43.39 | gsnedders | Pimpinella, _Manu_, Viper's is down |
| 14:44.33 | menotume | what port is that ? |
| 14:44.39 | menotume | (viiper) |
| 14:44.45 | eXtreme | 5158 |
| 14:45.43 | Chestal | romfis: yes? |
| 14:45.45 | menotume | ok, one minute |
| 14:47.58 | romfis | hi Chestal, i opening a channel |
| 14:49.45 | menotume | hmm, i dunno how to restart viper it seems |
| 14:49.55 | menotume | what's the full addy ? |
| 14:50.30 | Mr_Molez | ps -aef it :P |
| 14:50.43 | menotume | it aint running :) |
| 14:51.15 | eXtreme | viper.pimpi.org:5158 ? |
| 14:51.25 | eXtreme | viper2 * |
| 14:53.03 | Mr_Molez | menotume: btw hows the ram on there ? my bzfs seem to eat away at it fast |
| 14:55.35 | menotume | bzfs doesn't take much ram |
| 14:56.15 | Mr_Molez | not at first but after a few days i look at what ram has been used up and its nearly 100% |
| 14:57.24 | menotume | oh |
| 14:58.17 | Mr_Molez | free total used free shared buffers cached |
| 14:58.17 | Mr_Molez | Mem: 515936 504768 11168 0 88632 187448 |
| 14:58.39 | menotume | got any plugins running ? |
| 14:58.45 | menotume | what version of bzfs ? |
| 14:58.56 | Mr_Molez | 2_0branch from about a month ago |
| 14:59.03 | Mr_Molez | nah does it without plugins aswell |
| 14:59.07 | menotume | eXtreme: i don't think i have access to pimpi.org :( |
| 14:59.36 | menotume | Mr_Molez: maybe upgrade, maybe a mem leak that has been fixed |
| 14:59.45 | eXtreme | s/extreme/romfis/ ? |
| 14:59.45 | Mr_Molez | ok :P |
| 14:59.49 | Pimpinella | i'll fix it |
| 14:59.59 | menotume | maybe Pimpinella can fix it :) |
| 15:04.03 | _Manu_ | gsnedders, working again |
| 15:04.50 | trepan | Mr_Molez: all kinds of things eat away at your ram; use 'top', sort by memory |
| 15:07.12 | Mr_Molez | trepan: ok thanks |
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| 15:20.24 | Pimpinella | Mr_Molez: the line below (-/+ buffers/cache) is much more interesting |
| 15:21.31 | Pimpinella | your OS uses any memory available to cache files etc. |
| 15:21.47 | Pimpinella | this increases the overall performance dramatically |
| 15:26.18 | Mr_Molez | ah |
| 15:26.55 | Mr_Molez | so its good to have caching ? |
| 15:27.06 | Pimpinella | yep |
| 15:27.54 | Pimpinella | it's several times faster to read a cached file from memory than to read it from the fastest harddisk |
| 15:28.24 | Pimpinella | s/memory/RAM |
| 15:28.31 | Mr_Molez | so is that were most of my ram is going to ? |
| 15:29.22 | Pimpinella | yep |
| 15:29.31 | Mr_Molez | Pimpinella: hehe ok thanks alot :) |
| 15:30.13 | Pimpinella | if you read the line below the 2 you posted you can see how much memory is used excluding buffers and cache |
| 15:30.56 | Mr_Molez | ouch yes i see |
| 15:31.19 | Pimpinella | if you use 'top' and swith sort mode by '>' and '<' you can identify the processes using up the most memory |
| 15:32.20 | Pimpinella | switch to sort my mem% |
| 15:32.31 | Mr_Molez | I already looked at that when trepan said. I have found a few things running that are not needed that is taking alot of resources. Ill shut them down |
| 15:32.42 | Mr_Molez | Pimpinella: thanks for the help |
| 15:33.25 | Pimpinella | Mr_Molez: if you havn't already you should make sure you shut down any inetd, xinetd or similar |
| 15:33.42 | Pimpinella | np |
| 15:34.19 | Mr_Molez | ah ok |
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| 16:13.57 | Thumper_ | brlcad: ping |
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| 17:24.39 | brlcad | Thumper_: pong |
| 17:24.51 | Thumper_ | brlcad: I send you a bunch of info |
| 17:26.07 | Thumper_ | send->sent |
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| 17:40.18 | SportChick | ~romfis++ |
| 17:40.55 | romfis | lol, SC |
| 17:40.59 | SportChick | :) |
| 17:41.29 | edini | SportChick! long time no see :) |
| 17:41.37 | SportChick | oh! hi edini! |
| 17:41.41 | SportChick | I've been here :) |
| 17:41.51 | SportChick | I just hide near the botttom of the list, usually |
| 17:43.53 | edini | hehe, well i was busy lately ;) |
| 17:48.33 | SportChick | edini: hehe.. so YOU are the one who's been missing :) |
| 17:52.21 | edini | true :/ |
| 17:53.04 | edini | i dont even know if i known how to play bzflag anymore |
| 17:53.16 | edini | know* |
| 18:00.10 | SportChick | you? you'll never forget! it's like riding a bike :) |
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| 19:54.14 | brlcad | fyi for the acadmics in the house, there were a couple more DR papers that were recently published that use bzflag as the testing base |
| 19:54.30 | Tupone | URI? |
| 19:55.52 | MountainDew | acadmics ? |
| 19:55.54 | brlcad | contact me or check up on acm, as a few of them are not for public sharing |
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| 20:13.13 | brlcad | is anyone seeing packet loss to bzflag.bz? |
| 20:15.22 | ToughShooter | I have 2% loss to bzflag.bz according to 100 pings in a row |
| 20:16.30 | _Manu_ | 0 packet loss from Spain :) |
| 20:17.00 | ToughShooter | I had the loss at the end of the ping series, beginning at ping 97 |
| 20:17.27 | _Manu_ | you always have lost packets :) |
| 20:17.40 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: Huh? |
| 20:18.57 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: My loss at GU is gone, a week ago GU's provider fixed it |
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| 20:21.10 | _Manu_ | ToughShooter, :) |
| 20:22.47 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: Now I want to play midi on my ipod mini and the machine doesn't accept midi ;) |
| 20:23.28 | ToughShooter | Hmm, 2% directly from DE-CIX, too |
| 20:23.36 | blast007 | brlcad: 3% packet loss of 271 ping packets |
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| 20:27.23 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: I have direct peering to most providers in my country..also in case of GU and dub..only the Cu-cable is .. not good |
| 20:27.25 | _Manu_ | ToughShooter, playing midi? heh |
| 20:28.06 | _Manu_ | well I have not direct.. and 0% :-p |
| 20:28.15 | SportChick | ~bzflist |
| 20:28.33 | SportChick | weird |
| 20:28.35 | SportChick | ~silvercat |
| 20:28.39 | _Manu_ | viper rules :) |
| 20:28.57 | SportChick | jeffm2501 or learner/brlcad: ping |
| 20:29.12 | _Manu_ | hi SportChick |
| 20:29.18 | SportChick | _Manu_: hiya |
| 20:29.26 | SportChick | _Manu_: do you know how to do a tracert? |
| 20:29.30 | SportChick | on windows? |
| 20:29.56 | _Manu_ | no, I only use windows to test cross compiling |
| 20:30.10 | SportChick | _Manu_: ok, ty |
| 20:30.21 | JeffM2501 | start->run->cmd->tracert |
| 20:30.40 | _Manu_ | oh.. a command :) |
| 20:30.45 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 20:30.46 | ToughShooter | heh |
| 20:30.50 | JeffM2501 | its a terminal thing |
| 20:30.57 | _Manu_ | ic :) |
| 20:31.03 | _Manu_ | like traceroute? :) |
| 20:31.08 | JeffM2501 | yteah |
| 20:32.49 | _Manu_ | brlcad, a second test and 0% packets loss after 250 packets |
| 20:33.06 | ToughShooter | Why is it only called tracert and not traceroute? |
| 20:33.24 | _Manu_ | may be my not direct to peer is better than some direct ones.. heh |
| 20:34.02 | _Manu_ | probably because M$ devs were lazy |
| 20:34.20 | menotume | probably cause old old 8-char restriction :) |
| 20:34.50 | Tupone | they do not had tab completation |
| 20:34.53 | _Manu_ | yes but I like more my response :) |
| 20:35.21 | Tupone | they had not :) |
| 20:36.23 | _Manu_ | menotume, I don't remember tracert in msdos (where the 8+3 char limits) |
| 20:36.35 | menotume | well |
| 20:36.47 | menotume | i think the Micro$haft devs were just lazy |
| 20:36.53 | JeffM2501 | it is only in NT4 or later |
| 20:36.53 | _Manu_ | :) |
| 20:37.19 | _Manu_ | yes, NT -> net |
| 20:37.33 | Tupone | Network technologies |
| 20:37.51 | Tupone | stolen from VMS |
| 20:38.00 | menotume | Network Eventually Talks |
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| 20:44.10 | ToughShooter | brlcad: That are my two paths: http://pastebin.com/614943 |
| 20:46.27 | menotume | --- bzflag.bz ping statistics --- |
| 20:46.27 | menotume | 41 packets transmitted, 39 received, 4% packet loss, time 40038ms |
| 20:46.27 | menotume | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 49.026/50.381/53.594/0.928 ms, pipe 2 |
| 20:47.15 | _Manu_ | --- bzflag.bz ping statistics --- |
| 20:47.15 | _Manu_ | 250 packets transmitted, 249 received, 0% packet loss, time 249189ms |
| 20:47.15 | _Manu_ | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 240.287/250.764/262.980/3.408 ms |
| 20:47.27 | menotume | hmmm |
| 20:47.41 | menotume | and you're further away |
| 20:47.48 | _Manu_ | yep |
| 20:47.53 | menotume | diff route |
| 20:48.17 | menotume | what's the proggie that lets you ping faster than 1/sec ? |
| 20:48.27 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: Compare your route to mines, do your packets travel over unknown.sagonet.net? |
| 20:48.42 | _Manu_ | let me check the route |
| 20:49.16 | _Manu_ | yes |
| 20:49.27 | _Manu_ | 13 unknown.sagonet.net (65.110.32.75) 241.007 ms 247.843 ms 241.810 ms |
| 20:49.29 | menotume | mine too |
| 20:49.31 | menotume | last hop |
| 20:49.39 | _Manu_ | mine too, the last one |
| 20:50.00 | ToughShooter | Well, you see my two routes are quite different and only share unknown.sagonet.net and later |
| 20:51.48 | _Manu_ | ToughShooter, your route is too long |
| 20:53.40 | ToughShooter | --- bzflag.bz ping statistics --- |
| 20:53.40 | ToughShooter | 250 packets transmitted, 243 received, 2% packet loss, time 249976ms |
| 20:53.40 | ToughShooter | rtt min/avg/max/mdev = 115.689/116.745/118.392/0.525 ms, pipe 2 |
| 20:54.20 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: Not much changing ping times, though :p |
| 20:54.38 | _Manu_ | but no loss :-p |
| 20:55.49 | menotume | i'm losing 4-5% |
| 20:56.08 | _Manu_ | bas connections, k |
| 20:56.15 | _Manu_ | s/bas/bad/ |
| 20:56.39 | _Manu_ | probably there is something bad in your way |
| 20:56.46 | menotume | tesing to dub now |
| 20:57.19 | _Manu_ | or a mac issue :) |
| 20:57.31 | ToughShooter | menotume: that reminds me on what problems I had on GU...before it was fixed it was at 6-12% loss and lag steadily changing within seconds from 28ms to 330ms |
| 20:57.46 | menotume | 0% loss to DUB :) |
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| 20:58.02 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: I have no loss at dub (err, wait, dub is only 1 hop away basically) |
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| 20:58.35 | _Manu_ | ToughShooter, I'm jocking :) |
| 20:58.47 | ToughShooter | _Manu_: Do you remember when you wanted to kick me because of too low lag? ;) |
| 20:59.04 | _Manu_ | no, when it was? :/ |
| 20:59.15 | _Manu_ | j/k :) |
| 20:59.40 | menotume | please don't jock in channel |
| 20:59.51 | _Manu_ | I'm not |
| 21:00.05 | _Manu_ | I was jocking at Viper ;) |
| 21:00.15 | menotume | :) |
| 21:00.39 | _Manu_ | and he is protected against kicks |
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| 21:06.02 | TD-Linux | noooo! it unfolded wrong! |
| 21:06.13 | CBG | ;) |
| 21:06.23 | TD-Linux | I wonder if uvmapping in blender is better |
| 21:06.58 | CBG | most things are :P |
| 21:07.06 | CBG | the learning curve is steeper too though |
| 21:07.14 | TD-Linux | maybe if I upgrade to the CVS version of wings |
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| 21:10.53 | TD-Linux | I can't seem to find wings3d cvs |
| 21:14.02 | CBG | Can anyone tell me the difference between bidning down vs. binding up in the client config? |
| 21:14.41 | blast007 | down is when the key is first pressed down, and up waits until the key is released |
| 21:14.43 | CBG | Is it that when you bind something 'down', it does the action when you press the key whereas when you bind 'up' it does the action when you release the key? |
| 21:14.48 | CBG | blast007: k :) ty |
| 21:15.40 | CBG | So, why would thinks like the arrow keys (for driving) be bound 'up' when the radar keys (for example) are bound 'down'? Is there any significance to that? |
| 21:16.00 | CBG | sureley you turn when the arrow keys are pressed, not when they are released? |
| 21:17.26 | Tupone | bind "Left Arrow" down "turn left" |
| 21:17.37 | blast007 | mine are bound down too |
| 21:17.43 | CBG | Tupone: my config has 'up', strange. |
| 21:17.51 | Tupone | that is not good |
| 21:18.06 | CBG | I'll change 'left' to down, keep right as up and test it. ;) |
| 21:18.11 | blast007 | hehe |
| 21:18.26 | Tupone | they are bound both |
| 21:18.33 | CBG | oh? |
| 21:18.35 | blast007 | yes, just noticed that |
| 21:18.42 | blast007 | did a search for 'up' in my config |
| 21:18.51 | Tupone | or left arrow |
| 21:18.52 | CBG | ah, yes. ;) |
| 21:19.14 | CBG | That kinda make sense at least... |
| 21:19.19 | Tupone | when I rewrote the driving key code I needed both events |
| 21:19.29 | CBG | Ok, cool. |
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| 21:20.32 | CBG | Is there a minimum value you can set for 'displayRadarRange'? |
| 21:20.56 | CBG | Oh, wait. The problem seems to be the key I have chosen. |
| 21:21.06 | brlcad | blast007: could I get a traceroute and ping -q -c100 from you (pm)? |
| 21:21.08 | CBG | the "§" is not recognised in bzflag? |
| 21:29.57 | brlcad | _Manu_: thanks |
| 21:33.20 | brlcad | ToughShooter: thanks to you too |
| 21:34.19 | CBG | Tupone: is it likely that "§" is not recognised by bzflag? |
| 21:35.06 | Tupone | I think is not recognized |
| 21:35.27 | CBG | Ok. :( |
| 21:36.12 | CBG | This is going off-topic now, but Is it possible to change my "§" key to product some other character, under os x? |
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| 21:54.49 | brlcad | thanks for everyone's help.. hopefully whatever the problem is will be resolved shortly |
| 22:10.48 | menotume | brlcad: check my latest results :) |
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| 22:14.31 | menotume | TheRedBaron: Get a real client ! |
| 22:16.45 | TheRedBaron | that menotume guy, everywhere I go, he's after me! |
| 22:19.54 | CBG | TheRedBaron: Get a real client!! |
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| 22:26.41 | brlcad | menotume: yeah, I see |
| 22:26.51 | brlcad | i'd traced it down to that router as well locally |
| 22:30.35 | brlcad | funny.. of the 5 traceroutes I have.. the shortest hop-path is actually from a machine in germany |
| 22:31.12 | brlcad | all the US based traces were about 15 hops or so :) |
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| 22:44.13 | brlcad | it's another randomparticle |
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| 22:56.14 | randomparticle | the one and only :) |
| 22:56.43 | randomparticle | others merely aspire to random particle status |
| 22:57.03 | eXtreme | hi randomparticle ;) |
| 22:57.20 | randomparticle | yo! |
| 22:58.04 | randomparticle | much ado about not very much at gu as usual :) |
| 22:59.41 | randomparticle | nice to see redneck back with you lot |
| 22:59.55 | eXtreme | I didn't know until a few minutes ago :) |
| 23:00.40 | randomparticle | ouch... KAS :) |
| 23:03.22 | CBG | randomparticle? |
| 23:03.30 | eXtreme | heh yep |
| 23:03.32 | randomparticle | aka snick |
| 23:03.33 | eXtreme | silly cbg |
| 23:04.00 | CBG | what about kAS? |
| 23:04.39 | eXtreme | just that they beat FF :P |
| 23:04.40 | randomparticle | just remarking on the then-imminent loss of FF to KAS |
| 23:05.23 | randomparticle | it's only 7 letters, 3 dots, a space and a smiley. don't read too much into it |
| 23:05.33 | randomparticle | i know these are paranoid times |
| 23:06.32 | randomparticle | unless it's code for "ugh! that cbg is fungus-like" ... |
| 23:06.32 | eXtreme | actually 2 spaces.. need to get that sort of detail correct |
| 23:07.06 | randomparticle | sorry. critical oversight. |
| 23:07.13 | CBG | randomparticle: I'm not. ;) |
| 23:07.24 | CBG | fungus like is right |
| 23:07.26 | CBG | I need to shower. |
| 23:07.47 | randomparticle | you shower your toadstools? |
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| 23:09.45 | CBG | i don't shower anythign >:) |
| 23:19.57 | Thumper_ | brlcad: bzflag.bz packet loss is all gone (it's fine now) |
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| 23:33.43 | eXtreme | In 2.1 the ad message seems to be sent twice |
| 23:34.05 | eXtreme | One in PM, one to everyone |
| 23:34.07 | eXtreme | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.08 | eXtreme | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:34.25 | eXtreme | just thought I'd let you know :) |