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| 00:02.22 | spldart | Ok.... maybe a half liter of vodka is dimming my thought processes but... I'm building from source 1.10.8, cuz I wanna play 1.10 2.08 and 2.1 and every time it wont build the client :confused: got the source in .tar.gz from sourceforge page (not cvs appy) and did ./autogen, ./configure, make -j3 |
| 00:03.18 | Mr_Molez | look at what configure tells u |
| 00:03.25 | spldart | ok.. checking |
| 00:05.50 | spldart | the only problem I could find is 'cannot find lgl2 |
| 00:06.04 | spldart | otherwise the config log seems good |
| 00:07.25 | spldart | lemme try a build from another machine on this one |
| 00:11.18 | bryjen | ibot: bzflist |
| 00:11.49 | spldart | ~karma Mr_Molez |
| 00:11.49 | ibot | mr_molez has karma of 37 |
| 00:12.00 | spldart | ~karma Mr_Molez++ |
| 00:12.00 | ibot | mr_molez++ has neutral karma |
| 00:12.22 | spldart | ~mr_molez++ |
| 00:12.25 | spldart | ~karma Mr_Molez++ |
| 00:12.25 | ibot | mr_molez++ has neutral karma |
| 00:12.38 | spldart | LOL |
| 00:13.06 | A_Meteorite | woah |
| 00:13.23 | A_Meteorite | [5:13pm] A_Meteorite: karma Mr_Molez |
| 00:13.24 | A_Meteorite | [5:13pm] ibot: mr_molez has karma of 38 |
| 00:20.27 | Mr_Molez | ? |
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| 01:08.44 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/ (5 files): |
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| 01:08.44 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: - add missing extern keywords to bzfs.h |
| 01:08.44 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: - fix some shadowed globals |
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| 01:41.55 | nick125 | hey, is it normal for when you shoot someone (you see the bullet hit them), and they dont die? |
| 01:42.26 | nick125 | you actually see the bullet go though them |
| 01:44.14 | brad | probably lag, did you check lagstats? |
| 01:46.47 | JeffM2501 | to them it may have been rather close but not a hit |
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| 02:07.19 | Mr_Molez | http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/58850 |
| 02:07.22 | Mr_Molez | lol interesting |
| 02:19.01 | brad | mikeeusa yet again |
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| 02:35.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah he's a freak |
| 02:35.48 | cosmos | who |
| 02:35.56 | JeffM2501 | mikeeusa |
| 02:36.13 | JeffM2501 | that was me saving his posts :) |
| 02:37.09 | nick125 | blah, I need to do something about this freaking lag |
| 02:37.42 | nick125 | [SERVER->] player name here : 234 +- -2147483648ms |
| 02:37.45 | nick125 | ^^ is that normal? |
| 02:38.37 | Mr_Molez | nick125: he running debian/ubuntu ? |
| 02:38.56 | nick125 | 2.0.2 |
| 02:39.51 | nick125 | not sure what distro |
| 02:39.55 | nick125 | but, its 2.0.2 on linux |
| 02:40.14 | cosmos | more like moronusa |
| 02:40.32 | Mr_Molez | nick125: do you have the problem, or somebody else ? |
| 02:40.40 | nick125 | Mr_Molez: it's someone else on my server |
| 02:41.01 | nick125 | I ran /lagstats on my server and saw that.. |
| 02:41.01 | Mr_Molez | nick125: tell them to download the latest bzflag source and compile it |
| 02:42.02 | cosmos | or tell them to get off the 300 baud dialup |
| 02:42.09 | nick125 | lol |
| 02:42.17 | nick125 | anyone here know when 2.0.8 is going into portage? |
| 02:42.44 | cosmos | who cares compile it yourself |
| 02:43.05 | JeffM2501 | we don't controll when stuff goes in the package managers |
| 02:43.19 | nick125 | JeffM2501: I know, I was hoping that someone here might know |
| 02:43.33 | Mr_Molez | cosmos: cosmos btw you were not made admin on the openleague servers, you were just added to the talk/spawn group because you signed up to the league |
| 02:44.22 | cosmos | i didnt get banned? |
| 02:44.32 | Mr_Molez | not yet |
| 02:44.33 | cosmos | i feel so left out |
| 02:44.39 | cosmos | :) |
| 02:44.54 | nick125 | lol |
| 02:45.49 | Mr_Molez | give me time ill get around to it ;) |
| 02:46.04 | cosmos | from the sounds of it yesterday everyone was being banned |
| 02:46.05 | nick125 | banning users is fun.. |
| 02:46.15 | cosmos | i missed the hooplah |
| 02:46.16 | Mr_Molez | cosmos: you heared wrong :) |
| 02:46.29 | Mr_Molez | nick125: does he know how to compile :P |
| 02:46.41 | nick125 | banning people is fun, having them coming into your IRC channel and start screaming at you is not. |
| 02:46.47 | nick125 | Mr_Molez: not sure.. |
| 02:47.09 | cosmos | banning people is not fun. having decent players contribute to a fun game on your server is what is fun |
| 02:47.17 | nick125 | that's always fun |
| 02:47.26 | JeffM2501 | playing WoW is fun |
| 02:47.30 | nick125 | 25 people on your server is fun |
| 02:47.39 | nick125 | looking at the bandwidth bill the next month is not |
| 02:47.44 | Mr_Molez | nick125: lol |
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| 02:48.15 | nick125 | considering it costs $65/mbit for basically cogent b/w |
| 02:48.39 | nick125 | 95% of the traffic to and from is going though cogent |
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| 02:49.08 | Mr_Molez | nick125: how much bandwith does ur server use per day ? |
| 02:49.46 | Mr_Molez | longhair: heya |
| 02:52.41 | longhair | howdy Mr_Molez |
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| 03:10.42 | nick125 | Mr_Molez: not sure actually..lol |
| 03:10.56 | nick125 | cacti graphs are screwed up so I can't tell how much I used this month |
| 03:13.03 | nick125 | considering that 100% of outbound traffic goes though cogent and 90% of incoming goes though cogent, and cogent b/w is like $10/mbit, they are making a pretty penny per mbit |
| 03:14.28 | nick125 | I'm glad we're moving to hurricane electric |
| 03:15.35 | Mr_Molez | by mbit, what do you mean |
| 03:15.52 | nick125 | they charge us per mbit, not by the actual amount of data transfered |
| 03:15.52 | Mr_Molez | surely not $10 a mb ? |
| 03:16.04 | nick125 | cogent b/w is dirt cheap |
| 03:16.07 | nick125 | $10/mbit |
| 03:16.32 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 03:16.32 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: - added BZDB variable controlled dynamic colors |
| 03:16.32 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: (with configurable smooth transitions) |
| 03:16.32 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: - bumped the protocol to 0039 |
| 03:18.04 | Mr_Molez | that is cheap ? |
| 03:18.34 | nick125 | $10/mbit is very cheap |
| 03:19.05 | Mr_Molez | my provider charges 0.40 euro per gb (when gone over your limit) |
| 03:19.22 | nick125 | 1mbit can transfer around 400GB or so.. |
| 03:19.32 | Mr_Molez | ahhh |
| 03:20.04 | Mr_Molez | are you sure you mean mbit ? |
| 03:20.20 | nick125 | yes |
| 03:20.20 | nick125 | mbit |
| 03:20.29 | JeffM2501 | per second, per month |
| 03:20.42 | nick125 | they do 95% percentile.. |
| 03:20.49 | nick125 | basically, they average the usage for the entire month |
| 03:20.56 | nick125 | then, they take off 5% |
| 03:21.15 | nick125 | but, overages are $65/mbit |
| 03:21.35 | Mr_Molez | oo |
| 03:21.49 | nick125 | which is redicious |
| 03:22.18 | nick125 | at hurricane electric, its $45/mbit overage, and, its way better b/w |
| 03:23.17 | nick125 | latency is way lower |
| 03:23.26 | nick125 | because it isn't going though cogentco |
| 03:23.32 | nick125 | cogentco has a horrible network |
| 03:23.41 | Mr_Molez | ok ok :) |
| 03:23.57 | nick125 | most of my customers complain alot about cogent |
| 03:24.28 | nick125 | like, one of my customers that lives in the UK, he normally gets 500ms to the server, yet, to other servers, he gets more like 100ms |
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| 03:26.09 | nick125 | plus, in the future, I can get a gigabit line for $13,000 a month (around $14 per mbit) |
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| 06:32.34 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/ (4 files in 4 dirs): |
| 06:32.34 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: - default glDepthFunc to GL_LEQUAL (also good for preZ passes) |
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| 09:06.19 | brlcad | busy monkey |
| 09:06.42 | L4m3r | the best kind... |
| 09:17.24 | trepan | have a server setup with public access to some dyncol vars... :) |
| 09:41.36 | orchid | nifty |
| 09:42.15 | trepan | orchid: kinda fun, what i'd really want are expressions (including vectors) |
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| 12:00.06 | pianoboy3333 | So how's the devel going? |
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| 14:19.40 | brad | trepan: you around? |
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| 14:59.29 | spldart | umm proto 0039??? should I switch from 0037? |
| 15:06.43 | spldart | in a autogen what does warning: underquoted definition of AM_PATH_AALIB mean and is that fatal to the build... old version of bz source |
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| 16:51.52 | ruskie | geee all blues left... so it was 10 reds 4 blues... |
| 16:51.55 | ruskie | great odds |
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| 17:26.49 | Mr_Molez | hmm |
| 17:27.18 | Mr_Molez | can someone look on the server list any tell me why openleague.org has about 8 players but shows lower on the list than servers that have like 5 players |
| 17:27.43 | Mr_Molez | unless it doesn't count obs ? |
| 17:30.30 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't count observers |
| 17:30.42 | JeffM2501 | 2.1 dosn't even show them in the player counts |
| 17:31.07 | Mr_Molez | ah ok |
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| 17:39.26 | Firebird8 | anyone know why the bzflag flags have Flexpoint Source on it? |
| 17:39.51 | larsl | meh: They do? |
| 17:39.56 | meh | yea |
| 17:40.00 | JeffM2501 | where? |
| 17:40.03 | meh | onesec need to change name back |
| 17:40.03 | larsl | Never seen that. |
| 17:42.22 | Firebird8 | well i was just wondering |
| 17:42.30 | Firebird8 | cause that company makes scratch off tickets |
| 17:42.38 | Firebird8 | and i was makin a website for them.. |
| 17:42.44 | blast007 | where did you see this? |
| 17:42.52 | Firebird8 | super flags |
| 17:43.04 | JeffM2501 | what? |
| 17:43.09 | blast007 | o.O |
| 17:43.28 | JeffM2501 | what exactly are you saying? |
| 17:43.39 | JeffM2501 | that we use some sort of "code" from lotery tickets? |
| 17:44.24 | Firebird8 | no |
| 17:44.34 | Firebird8 | the flag's texture is the Flexpoint Source logo |
| 17:44.37 | Firebird8 | why is that? |
| 17:44.43 | JeffM2501 | what? |
| 17:44.49 | JeffM2501 | we made that logo |
| 17:44.55 | JeffM2501 | it was done in blender |
| 17:44.55 | Firebird8 | no u didn't |
| 17:45.03 | JeffM2501 | It's got a freaking TANK on it |
| 17:45.07 | Firebird8 | u wanna see? |
| 17:45.10 | JeffM2501 | sure |
| 17:45.11 | Firebird8 | one sec |
| 17:45.18 | Firebird8 | done in blender |
| 17:45.20 | JeffM2501 | I'm one of the artists |
| 17:45.20 | Firebird8 | cool |
| 17:45.23 | Firebird8 | i use blender |
| 17:45.27 | JeffM2501 | I know where all our art came from |
| 17:45.44 | Firebird8 | wats the screenshot button? |
| 17:45.49 | JeffM2501 | F5 |
| 17:46.22 | blast007 | Firebird8: screenshot in BZ, or just a general screen capture of an application? |
| 17:46.30 | cosmos | i just scratched off my superflags and won $250K |
| 17:46.34 | cosmos | firebird pay up |
| 17:46.35 | blast007 | lol |
| 17:46.38 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 17:47.22 | JeffM2501 | our flags are drawn as a textured quad, using a texture made in blender, it's a sun shape with a circle, and OUR tank rendered in the middle |
| 17:47.37 | JeffM2501 | if anyone else came up with that then it's just coicence |
| 17:47.48 | cosmos | "firebird is an artist...but not for bzflag" what words can go before artist lets see...scam artist |
| 17:47.55 | Firebird8 | huh |
| 17:47.58 | Firebird8 | watcha talkin bout |
| 17:48.07 | cosmos | now we are on different strokes |
| 17:48.08 | JeffM2501 | cosmos, I'll take care of this thanks |
| 17:48.14 | Firebird8 | O_o |
| 17:48.22 | JeffM2501 | let him state what he feels is the problem please |
| 17:48.39 | Firebird8 | uploading |
| 17:48.43 | JeffM2501 | Firebird8, what logo do you think we are using? |
| 17:48.46 | JeffM2501 | please show me |
| 17:48.47 | JeffM2501 | ok, thanks |
| 17:49.02 | Firebird8 | unless my machine somehow crapped up or something |
| 17:49.58 | Firebird8 | so slow |
| 17:50.18 | JeffM2501 | I can wait |
| 17:50.41 | JeffM2501 | now are you speaking of the flags in game? or the flag in the menu screen? |
| 17:50.49 | Firebird8 | flags in the game |
| 17:51.17 | larsl | Can't those be replaced by the server? |
| 17:51.24 | Firebird8 | no i ran my own server |
| 17:51.25 | JeffM2501 | so this flexpoint company also uses a sun around a circle? |
| 17:51.28 | Firebird8 | no |
| 17:51.30 | Firebird8 | ull see |
| 17:52.05 | JeffM2501 | is this logo on the web? |
| 17:52.30 | JeffM2501 | from somone other then yourself? |
| 17:53.17 | Firebird8 | http://www.firegfx.byethost7.com/images/Screenshot-1.png |
| 17:53.30 | Firebird8 | damnit |
| 17:53.34 | Firebird8 | it doesn't work |
| 17:53.49 | JeffM2501 | why are you sending us to a rotator? |
| 17:53.56 | JeffM2501 | what are you trying to pull? |
| 17:53.59 | JeffM2501 | I am not ammused |
| 17:54.14 | Firebird8 | taht is my website |
| 17:54.21 | Firebird8 | it didn't upload properly |
| 17:54.23 | JeffM2501 | that "Screennshot' is a redirector |
| 17:54.26 | Firebird8 | wat? |
| 17:54.28 | Firebird8 | wth |
| 17:54.32 | Firebird8 | ?? |
| 17:54.41 | JeffM2501 | it is not an image |
| 17:54.44 | cosmos | get a rope |
| 17:54.49 | Firebird8 | wtf |
| 17:55.00 | JeffM2501 | tell you what, lets take this private |
| 17:55.08 | JeffM2501 | since you have a serious legal alication against us |
| 17:55.16 | Firebird8 | huh |
| 17:55.27 | Firebird8 | no i was just wondering why it displays that logo |
| 17:55.49 | JeffM2501 | show me the logo outside of the game that you think we use |
| 18:01.24 | Firebird8 | fixed it |
| 18:01.28 | Firebird8 | thats really weird |
| 18:01.35 | cosmos | sheesh, plane fell out of the sky and hit an suv in oxnard yesterday |
| 18:01.49 | Firebird8 | on linux...(ubuntu) if you place a image named flag.png bzflag will load it |
| 18:02.01 | Firebird8 | in ur home folder |
| 18:02.18 | Firebird8 | should it be doing that? |
| 18:02.45 | Gnurdux | Firebird8, most likely |
| 18:02.49 | Firebird8 | um |
| 18:02.50 | Firebird8 | why? |
| 18:03.02 | Firebird8 | why would it be loading images from my home directory |
| 18:03.04 | Gnurdux | it probably checks current directory first, then the shared dir |
| 18:03.15 | Firebird8 | the stuff is in /usr/share/bzflag |
| 18:03.18 | Gnurdux | yes |
| 18:03.29 | Firebird8 | weird |
| 18:03.30 | Gnurdux | probably FIRST checks . then /usr/share/bzflag |
| 18:03.38 | Gnurdux | if you really care look at the source |
| 18:03.39 | Firebird8 | bad idea |
| 18:05.01 | Firebird8 | is it possible for me to make my own models and replace the current ones on my system? |
| 18:05.13 | Gnurdux | Firebird8, why is it a bad idea? |
| 18:05.27 | larsl | The 3D models aren't data files. |
| 18:05.32 | Firebird8 | like in my case i had an image named flag.png |
| 18:05.37 | Firebird8 | so it loaded it |
| 18:05.43 | Firebird8 | larsl, then what are they? |
| 18:05.53 | larsl | Embedded in the source. |
| 18:06.09 | Firebird8 | damn |
| 18:06.12 | Firebird8 | opengl C++? |
| 18:06.19 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 18:06.19 | Gnurdux | Firebird8, |
| 18:06.25 | Gnurdux | i just read source |
| 18:06.31 | Gnurdux | for that stuff |
| 18:06.35 | Gnurdux | for filemanager |
| 18:06.48 | Firebird8 | i could possibly export models to C++ and replace? |
| 18:07.09 | JeffM2501 | what model do you want to replace? |
| 18:07.17 | Gnurdux | when loading files, it first checks ./data, then checks ., then checks the share dir like /usr/share/bzflag |
| 18:08.02 | Firebird8 | JeffM2501, i just want to make some new tank for fun |
| 18:08.10 | Gnurdux | Firebird8, you cant "export to C++" its not like a FORMAT its code to display it |
| 18:08.18 | Gnurdux | so you'd have to modify the code |
| 18:08.19 | JeffM2501 | they are hardcoded as a number of pieces |
| 18:08.20 | Firebird8 | Gnurdux, yes you can |
| 18:08.28 | Gnurdux | if you say so |
| 18:08.28 | Firebird8 | u can export to C++ code |
| 18:08.32 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, you don't know what you are speaking about, shuddap |
| 18:08.41 | JeffM2501 | Firebird8, it's not a simple drop in |
| 18:08.50 | Firebird8 | mmm |
| 18:08.59 | JeffM2501 | some of the data is not pulled from the "model" |
| 18:09.04 | JeffM2501 | like how it explodes |
| 18:09.08 | JeffM2501 | and where the shots come out |
| 18:09.12 | Firebird8 | : | |
| 18:09.16 | JeffM2501 | it is not made to be extentable |
| 18:09.18 | JeffM2501 | at this time |
| 18:09.24 | Firebird8 | at this time? |
| 18:09.30 | Gnurdux | you can change the textures tho Firebird8 |
| 18:09.38 | Firebird8 | y do i want to do that? |
| 18:09.39 | JeffM2501 | someone may change how it works |
| 18:09.53 | Firebird8 | it should be easily moded.... |
| 18:09.55 | JeffM2501 | if you can't change the UV maping,it's nearly pointless to change the textures |
| 18:09.59 | Gnurdux | you could make the tanks have smiley faces or soemthing, as long as it was the same shape |
| 18:10.01 | JeffM2501 | Firebird8, the game is 13 years old |
| 18:10.07 | Firebird8 | O_o |
| 18:10.17 | JeffM2501 | Firebird8, you are more then welcome to change the code to make it read an external model |
| 18:10.18 | Gnurdux | Firebird8, maybe it "should" but it isnt, like JeffM2501 tells me about everything i don't understand why |
| 18:10.21 | Firebird8 | its been 2 years since i touched BZFlag |
| 18:10.43 | JeffM2501 | noone has coded it up yet |
| 18:10.46 | JeffM2501 | it's as simple as that |
| 18:10.49 | Firebird8 | ah |
| 18:10.54 | JeffM2501 | it's beent talked about |
| 18:10.57 | JeffM2501 | but noone has done it |
| 18:11.11 | JeffM2501 | a thing Gnurdux dosn't seem to understand |
| 18:11.27 | Firebird8 | im gonna go play with blender |
| 18:11.41 | JeffM2501 | you can use blender to make maps |
| 18:11.45 | Firebird8 | maps? |
| 18:11.46 | Firebird8 | how |
| 18:11.50 | Firebird8 | exporter? |
| 18:11.52 | Gnurdux | yeap |
| 18:11.56 | JeffM2501 | there is an import/exprt plugin |
| 18:11.57 | Gnurdux | someone made a script for it |
| 18:11.57 | larsl | JeffM2501: What happened to your pod game thing? |
| 18:12.02 | Firebird8 | python scripts for blender don't work well on ubuntu |
| 18:12.08 | JeffM2501 | larsl, like all things. mehh |
| 18:12.10 | Firebird8 | JeffM2501, got a link |
| 18:12.14 | Gnurdux | Firebird8, thats why you download it from the blender sit |
| 18:12.15 | Gnurdux | e |
| 18:12.16 | Firebird8 | ima check it out |
| 18:12.18 | JeffM2501 | Firebird8, my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 18:12.23 | JeffM2501 | it's in the map editors section |
| 18:12.39 | Firebird8 | Gnurdux, i did |
| 18:12.50 | larsl | Firebird8: You need the absolutely latest Blender though. |
| 18:12.53 | Firebird8 | practically all python related stuff doesn't work |
| 18:12.53 | Gnurdux | how does it "not work well" |
| 18:12.59 | Firebird8 | larsl, 2.41 |
| 18:13.00 | Gnurdux | you need to put it in .blender/scripts |
| 18:13.22 | Firebird8 | i know |
| 18:13.22 | larsl | Firebird8: That's the one. It works here. |
| 18:13.23 | Firebird8 | ... |
| 18:13.33 | spldart | If you run bzflag client straight out of your fresh source in linux where does it save screenies? |
| 18:13.41 | Firebird8 | Gnurdux, im not new to blender |
| 18:13.52 | Gnurdux | spldart, ~/.bzf/screenshots |
| 18:14.45 | Gnurdux | Firebird8, make sure the python version matches up |
| 18:15.06 | Gnurdux | if you got the one without python built in, make sure its the same python that you have on your system |
| 18:15.20 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, pehaps you should "help" him with blender in a /msg |
| 18:15.25 | Firebird8 | 323 topics O_o |
| 18:15.27 | JeffM2501 | since you are out of the realm of the bzflag plugin now :) |
| 18:15.40 | Gnurdux | hmm true |
| 18:15.47 | spldart | umm not blender |
| 18:15.50 | spldart | bzflag |
| 18:15.52 | Gnurdux | Firebird8, search the forum for blender |
| 18:15.52 | spldart | which is OT |
| 18:16.02 | JeffM2501 | the bzflag plugin for blender is not |
| 18:16.17 | Firebird8 | found it :) |
| 18:16.27 | JeffM2501 | Firebird8, just read down, there is a top level forum for map editors |
| 18:16.31 | Firebird8 | 103 matches |
| 18:16.32 | Firebird8 | hmm |
| 18:16.41 | spldart | when you press f5 to get a screenshot during game play where it saves is not on topic?? |
| 18:16.46 | Firebird8 | aha |
| 18:16.48 | Firebird8 | found it |
| 18:16.57 | JeffM2501 | spldart, your home dir |
| 18:17.02 | JeffM2501 | in .bzf |
| 18:17.04 | Gnurdux | ~/.bzf/screenshots |
| 18:17.06 | JeffM2501 | in screenshots |
| 18:17.09 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 18:17.11 | Gnurdux | like i said before spldart |
| 18:17.13 | Firebird8 | The requested URL /BZWimporter-1.tar.gz was not found on this server. |
| 18:17.15 | Firebird8 | O_o |
| 18:17.16 | Gnurdux | ~ = home dir |
| 18:17.18 | Firebird8 | uh oh |
| 18:17.18 | spldart | It's not there though |
| 18:17.24 | Gnurdux | Firebird8, he changed the link |
| 18:17.25 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, it was in the middle of your blender speew so he may not have seen it |
| 18:17.27 | Gnurdux | read down |
| 18:17.45 | spldart | I thought that something was wrong since I'm running out of the source and didn't install it .... lemme look again |
| 18:17.48 | JeffM2501 | spldart, do you have a .bzf dir? |
| 18:17.56 | spldart | no I don't... |
| 18:17.57 | spldart | hrm |
| 18:18.00 | Firebird8 | got it |
| 18:18.06 | Gnurdux | spldart, yes you do |
| 18:18.11 | JeffM2501 | make sure you put the . infront of it |
| 18:18.11 | Gnurdux | go into a terminal |
| 18:18.20 | spldart | in terminal |
| 18:18.21 | Gnurdux | .dirs are hidden, you cant view em with a file manager |
| 18:18.21 | spldart | with . |
| 18:18.26 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, he may not, please stop asserting things you don't now are true |
| 18:18.28 | Gnurdux | cd ~/.bzf/screenshots |
| 18:18.35 | Gnurdux | copy and paste exactly that line |
| 18:19.27 | spldart | okies |
| 18:19.31 | Gnurdux | does that work? |
| 18:20.09 | spldart | yep... ls in terminal didn't show them cuz hidden |
| 18:20.15 | spldart | thankies |
| 18:20.25 | ToughShooter | ls -a is for showing all files |
| 18:20.26 | Gnurdux | spldart, exactly |
| 18:20.31 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 18:20.36 | spldart | ah.. forgot the -a |
| 18:20.57 | spldart | was trying to screenshot closeups on moving action of the new effects |
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| 18:32.35 | spldart | will all 3 bzflag versions, run out of their source directories, all save screenies and world files to that same set of directories? |
| 18:33.13 | JeffM2501 | yeah it's the same for any versiopn |
| 18:33.15 | JeffM2501 | version |
| 18:33.23 | JeffM2501 | just like they all use the same config |
| 18:35.10 | spldart | thanks |
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| 19:51.12 | Gnurdux | can anyone help me with a plugin? |
| 19:53.27 | CBG | "read the docs" |
| 19:53.42 | Gnurdux | CBG, how helpful |
| 19:53.56 | Gnurdux | whatever ill worry about it later |
| 19:54.25 | CBG | Gnurdux: just quoting what most others tell you - right? |
| 19:55.52 | Gnurdux | yep |
| 19:58.24 | TD-Linux | how about this z80 code I'm working on? Who do I call to fix that? :) |
| 19:58.49 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 19:58.56 | Gnurdux | my friend steven carlson |
| 19:59.07 | TD-Linux | the correct answer is an irc channel :) |
| 19:59.08 | gsnedders | how hard is it to check there aren't any tanks within 5 bz units before spawning!? |
| 19:59.09 | Gnurdux | hes a calculator programmer |
| 19:59.18 | TD-Linux | me too, that's what I'm doing :) |
| 19:59.22 | Gnurdux | gsnedders, not possible |
| 19:59.35 | Gnurdux | sometimes there is no place on the map where that is true |
| 19:59.49 | gsnedders | Gnurdux: ? |
| 19:59.53 | TD-Linux | I'm working on code for TI-83/84+ |
| 19:59.57 | Gnurdux | if it is very crowded... |
| 20:00.03 | Gnurdux | TD-Linux, yea same with him |
| 20:00.07 | gsnedders | Gnurdux: it wasn't. |
| 20:00.16 | Gnurdux | you can send an email to him |
| 20:00.20 | Gnurdux | ill get you his address |
| 20:00.23 | gsnedders | Gnurdux: half the map was empty. |
| 20:00.38 | TD-Linux | I don't need it, I'm sure he's on maxcoderz or someplace similar :) |
| 20:00.41 | blast007 | gsnedders: what server version? |
| 20:01.05 | Gnurdux | TD-Linux, tigeek@gmail.com |
| 20:01.39 | CBG | gsnedders: it's a known problem with 2.0.6, should have been fixed with 2.0.8 (was one of the main reasons there _was_ a 2.0.8) |
| 20:01.58 | Gnurdux | but it doesnt check for within 5 units |
| 20:02.09 | Gnurdux | it tries to spawn as far away AS possibl |
| 20:02.10 | Gnurdux | e |
| 20:02.13 | TD-Linux | hey, there is a bzflag pastebin! |
| 20:02.16 | TD-Linux | ~pastebin |
| 20:02.17 | ibot | i heard pastebin is a place to paste your stuff without flooding the channel - try http://pastebin.com/, or http://pastebin.ca, or http://channels.debian.net/paste, or for #oe use http://oe.pastebin.com |
| 20:02.30 | gsnedders | blast007: 20051231, IIRC (2.0.5, therefore) |
| 20:02.36 | TD-Linux | ~pastebin is also http://bzflag.pastebin.ca/ |
| 20:02.37 | ibot | TD-Linux: okay |
| 20:02.55 | gsnedders | and how about checking no bullets are heading towards the tank? |
| 20:03.04 | Gnurdux | gsnedders, again, fixed in 2.0.8 |
| 20:04.29 | gsnedders | CBG: but this is old enough to not really be effected by the 2.0.6 issues |
| 20:04.50 | Gnurdux | its not a 2.0.6 server? |
| 20:05.03 | gsnedders | I said above |
| 20:05.18 | gsnedders | "20051231, IIRC (2.0.5, therefore)" |
| 20:05.21 | Gnurdux | ah |
| 20:05.22 | Gnurdux | well |
| 20:05.29 | Gnurdux | lemme think |
| 20:05.37 | Gnurdux | no, it shouldnt have the spawn bug |
| 20:05.43 | Gnurdux | that was added in feb or march |
| 20:06.41 | gsnedders | 20051214, to be exact. |
| 20:07.01 | blast007 | Gnurdux: I don't think the server checks for active bullets |
| 20:07.09 | blast007 | it does not have a full game state |
| 20:07.22 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 20:08.50 | gsnedders | why change it? :P |
| 20:08.57 | gsnedders | if it ain't broke, don't fix it. |
| 20:09.01 | pyr02k1 | well, to help make the spawns better, a new thing was tried, it proved to be hell in 2.0.5 and was fixed with current |
| 20:09.38 | pyr02k1 | the spawns were making it hard on people to keep a flag from being capped, as well as catch that person running it. then to top it off, they had a clear run across the field otherwise |
| 20:09.55 | pyr02k1 | but in trying to fix it, the problem became far worse, spawning right in front of or behind an enemy |
| 20:10.40 | gsnedders | I'm well aware of what the Feb/Mar commits in 2.0.5 did |
| 20:10.46 | gsnedders | but that's almost completely irrelevent |
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| 20:13.40 | blast007 | was 1.10 still client side spawns? |
| 20:13.55 | gsnedders | i dunno - but it worked. |
| 20:13.57 | gsnedders | :) |
| 20:19.33 | blast007 | ah, no, 1.10 was the first to have it |
| 20:19.43 | blast007 | (server side spawns) |
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| 20:34.47 | spldart | heh |
| 20:35.14 | KyleH | ~pi |
| 20:35.15 | ibot | pi is, like, 3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034825342117067982148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128481117450284102701938521105559644622948954930381964428810975665933446128475648233786783165271201909145648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273724587006606315588174881520920962829254091 |
| 20:37.14 | spldart | eek |
| 20:37.39 | spldart | I only have that memorized to 3.14159265358979 |
| 20:38.10 | Gnurdux | spldart, of course thats not all of pi either; there are infinite digits |
| 20:38.23 | spldart | dur hey |
| 20:38.32 | spldart | ;) |
| 20:39.09 | spldart | A kid in my high school held the record 20 years ago for pi calculation |
| 20:39.30 | spldart | don't remember how many how many right now though... 'thousands |
| 20:39.39 | Gnurdux | thats kinda amazing |
| 20:39.42 | spldart | but I'm O.T.... Lemme shut up |
| 20:39.48 | Gnurdux | O.T spldart ? |
| 20:39.53 | spldart | Off Topic |
| 20:39.55 | Gnurdux | ah |
| 20:40.04 | spldart | soemthing I get slapped down on several times a login sometimes ' |
| 20:40.05 | spldart | lol |
| 20:40.25 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 20:40.59 | spldart | we need a #bzchat_OT channel |
| 20:41.10 | Gnurdux | bzchat IS offtopic |
| 20:41.16 | spldart | nopers |
| 20:41.26 | spldart | I've been chastised for being to far off topic in there too |
| 20:41.32 | Gnurdux | really? |
| 20:41.34 | Gnurdux | wow |
| 20:41.35 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 20:41.35 | spldart | yeah |
| 20:41.39 | Gnurdux | jeff is evil |
| 20:41.50 | spldart | I no say nuff'n |
| 20:41.50 | Gnurdux | he reminds me of my substitute math teacher |
| 20:41.54 | spldart | LMAO |
| 20:41.58 | L4m3r | Only when you annoy him *cough* |
| 20:42.09 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, for me, thats always |
| 20:42.25 | spldart | No really... 'hurting cheeks' lmao! |
| 20:42.26 | Gnurdux | and he gets annoyed at things that he shouldnt, even tho i AM annoying |
| 20:43.07 | spldart | hehe |
| 20:43.18 | Gnurdux | my math teacher tried to give me 0/3 on a question cause i didnt do it in degrees, when it didnt SAY to use degrees on it |
| 20:43.25 | L4m3r | when you ask "RTFM" questions 80% of the time I find that not surprising. |
| 20:43.28 | Gnurdux | then i showed him my answer was equivalent to the real one |
| 20:43.44 | Gnurdux | and he only gave me 2/3 |
| 20:44.03 | Gnurdux | this is the sub; my REAL math teacher is good, but shes on maternity leave |
| 20:44.09 | spldart | Mr_Molez and you get along don't you Gnurdux? :-D |
| 20:44.28 | Gnurdux | depends what you mean "get along" |
| 20:44.53 | spldart | in here.. no confrontations. as compared to well... I say to much |
| 20:45.04 | Gnurdux | not in here, yea |
| 20:45.11 | Mr_Molez | heh |
| 20:45.22 | Gnurdux | but Jeff sometimes is evil |
| 20:45.26 | Mr_Molez | i dont confront people in here |
| 20:45.33 | spldart | Burning yet? |
| 20:45.41 | Mr_Molez | u said my name |
| 20:45.43 | Gnurdux | spldart, we do our confrontations in other rooms, so that jeff doesnt chastise us for it |
| 20:45.43 | Mr_Molez | it showed up |
| 20:45.55 | spldart | I know i know |
| 20:46.13 | spldart | geez I better stfu before I'm banned |
| 20:46.20 | Gnurdux | spldart, jeff aint on |
| 20:46.25 | Gnurdux | thats why im dissing him |
| 20:46.27 | spldart | their are log's |
| 20:46.37 | spldart | I know... I seen 'em |
| 20:46.38 | Gnurdux | only TimRiker gets em i think |
| 20:46.45 | spldart | I've seen the logs |
| 20:46.45 | Gnurdux | well Jeff doesnt read them |
| 20:46.49 | Gnurdux | and TimRiker is nice\ |
| 20:46.49 | spldart | ah |
| 20:47.01 | spldart | true that |
| 20:47.01 | Gnurdux | and Jeff and him dont always get along :P |
| 20:47.05 | Gnurdux | he always disses timriker |
| 20:47.32 | Mr_Molez | logs are for everyone to see |
| 20:47.38 | trepan | ~logs |
| 20:47.39 | ibot | extra, extra, read all about it, logs is http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
| 20:47.39 | Mr_Molez | ibot.rikers.org or something |
| 20:47.39 | spldart | yeppers |
| 20:47.51 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, jeff doesn;t read em i htink' |
| 20:48.00 | Mr_Molez | who care if he does |
| 20:48.04 | Gnurdux | but when jeff screws up, he blames it on tim, always |
| 20:48.10 | Gnurdux | well not always |
| 20:48.14 | spldart | ok ok... didn't mean to start this :eek: |
| 20:48.24 | Gnurdux | spldart, why not? jeff is fun to diss when hes not around |
| 20:48.25 | Mr_Molez | yes gnurdux be quiet |
| 20:48.30 | spldart | lmao |
| 20:48.35 | Gnurdux | fine |
| 20:48.36 | spldart | oh wait |
| 20:48.38 | spldart | LMAO |
| 20:48.39 | spldart | !!!!! |
| 20:48.46 | Gnurdux | as soon as the test server is up Mahdi |
| 20:48.51 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez i mean |
| 20:49.17 | Mr_Molez | ah sweet it saved what i changed before it crashed |
| 20:49.40 | Gnurdux | awesome |
| 20:49.46 | spldart | coolies |
| 20:50.33 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, when will it be up? |
| 20:50.53 | Gnurdux | crap |
| 20:50.55 | Gnurdux | i gotta go |
| 20:51.01 | Gnurdux | dad is calling |
| 20:51.06 | Gnurdux | thats why i wanted it earlier |
| 20:51.15 | Gnurdux | now i need to wait prolly about 20-30 minutes |
| 20:51.23 | Mr_Molez | sweet |
| 20:51.27 | Gnurdux | so you cna take your time but pleeasee no matches Mr_Molez |
| 20:51.28 | Mr_Molez | ist up now btw |
| 20:51.31 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 20:51.48 | Gnurdux | wow i really have bad timing :( |
| 20:51.56 | Gnurdux | well cya in halfhour or so |
| 20:52.33 | spldart | :( |
| 20:53.27 | TD-Linux | I better not say anything, should I? |
| 20:53.28 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03trepan * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/World.cxx: cheezy way to differentiate -set and -setforced situations |
| 20:53.38 | spldart | ??? |
| 20:53.57 | TD-Linux | what is -setforced ? |
| 20:54.16 | TD-Linux | rather thin today, I believe |
| 20:54.55 | spldart | methinks the vodka made me step in more than simple tank bogey axle grease will let me slip out of |
| 20:55.56 | TD-Linux | so is your problem the lack of JeffM2501 or the vodka? |
| 20:57.22 | spldart | good question.... I think it was vodka.. and then the initiation in conversation by other un-named |
| 20:57.32 | spldart | user |
| 20:59.59 | spldart | There will be no further questions from the press.... thank you |
| 21:00.55 | spldart | I normally drink scotch whiskey a-delusion.. tonight I'm just hitting what's in the bar cabinets |
| 21:01.06 | DTRemenak | I think he knows he's evil |
| 21:01.12 | DTRemenak | doesn't hurt to say it :) |
| 21:01.55 | spldart | Yeah.. But is it a good kind of evil or bad... that is the question ... whether tiz nobler.. wait... Evil is like Suck... there is a good sucka and a bad suck... well... |
| 21:02.06 | TD-Linux | there is? |
| 21:02.26 | spldart | good suck and bad suck... don't make me spell it out :squint: |
| 21:02.28 | TD-Linux | how can one be good evil? |
| 21:03.01 | spldart | Good evil is like riddick... 'another kind of evil' Bad evil is like Gnurdux's sub math teacher |
| 21:03.11 | TD-Linux | or a better idea, /me gets out the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy |
| 21:03.18 | a-delusion | HAs anybody ever heard of "Olde Frothingslosh" the pale stale ale with the foam on the bottom? |
| 21:03.19 | spldart | LMAO |
| 21:03.32 | spldart | 8-x |
| 21:03.56 | spldart | OMG... I've shot my 'irc chat' foot |
| 21:04.07 | TD-Linux | how about the sobering-up machine in The Restraunt at the End of the Universe? someone needs it |
| 21:05.22 | spldart | Tell the dolphins I said hi : |
| 21:08.21 | CBG | Ok, while the evil lord of the channel is out, anyone want to recommend a small, cheap webhost to me? I'm looking to spend under $10/month, ideally about $5, but any recommendations are great! :) |
| 21:10.13 | L4m3r | Friend of mine (who I sublease from) uses ehostpros, pays about $70/year... |
| 21:10.29 | L4m3r | I think it's the silver level plan. http://ehostpros.com |
| 21:10.32 | a-delusion | stayhosted.com works for me, at 4.95 mo. US. they just upgraded to php 5 |
| 21:10.52 | CBG | thanks guys, i'll check them out |
| 21:12.01 | L4m3r | that's still going on? jeeze. |
| 21:12.02 | DTRemenak | CBG: http://www.1and1.com is one of the cheapest out there |
| 21:13.28 | CBG | thanks also DTRemenak (though I think I tried those and they don't offer a plan near what I want and won't give me a quote on a custom plan :( ) |
| 21:15.50 | *** join/#bzflag Blue_Eyes (n=Blue@host117-169.pool875.interbusiness.it) |
| 21:16.02 | TD-Linux | there is a huge webserving company with a 12-page ad in a magazine that is sent to me |
| 21:16.15 | TD-Linux | forgot the name :) |
| 21:16.25 | TD-Linux | I think it has a '4' in it |
| 21:17.12 | CBG | that helps :P |
| 21:17.57 | Gnurdux | * Mr_Molez |
| 21:18.07 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: its up and working |
| 21:18.07 | CBG | leave poor Mahdi alone :P |
| 21:18.15 | Gnurdux | all of it? |
| 21:18.19 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: yeh |
| 21:18.24 | Gnurdux | on all servers? |
| 21:18.30 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: yup |
| 21:18.39 | Gnurdux | yay |
| 21:18.54 | Gnurdux | thats awesome |
| 21:19.14 | spldart | growl snarl |
| 21:19.15 | Gnurdux | does the 51* ones still use chatchannel |
| 21:19.34 | DTRemenak | spldart: be a good doggy now... |
| 21:19.37 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: told u they wont change |
| 21:19.42 | Gnurdux | aghh ok |
| 21:19.42 | spldart | ruff |
| 21:19.45 | Gnurdux | whatever |
| 21:20.08 | Gnurdux | can you load the noMatchObsPublic on one of them? |
| 21:20.47 | spldart | oops... drink empty must refill |
| 21:21.16 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, cause i wanna show it to L4m3r so he can help me fixi t |
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| 21:22.46 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, |
| 21:23.04 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: then run it on your server |
| 21:23.11 | Gnurdux | heh good idea :| |
| 21:23.33 | DTRemenak | ... |
| 21:23.36 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, when i finish it you can run it |
| 21:23.53 | Gnurdux | but Mr_Molez how do you like the idea of forcing people who arent matching to join obs |
| 21:23.57 | L4m3r | I should call a professional... |
| 21:24.02 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: talk in lintux |
| 21:24.02 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 21:24.05 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 21:24.34 | L4m3r | Gnurdux, RT7 has done that for a long time. |
| 21:24.48 | Gnurdux | RT7? whats that? |
| 21:24.55 | L4m3r | race to seven |
| 21:24.59 | Gnurdux | ok |
| 21:24.59 | L4m3r | the mofo league plugin |
| 21:25.02 | Gnurdux | ill take a look at it |
| 21:25.12 | Gnurdux | we're reimplementing most of the mofo stuff |
| 21:25.28 | Gnurdux | cause Mr_Molez doesn't like RT7 |
| 21:25.56 | L4m3r | RT7 has gotten to the point where it's specialize for use at mofo |
| 21:26.13 | Gnurdux | the plugin i need help with: what it does is redirects observer public chat during matches to observer team chat |
| 21:26.38 | Mr_Molez | Gnurdux: it would be good if it did that but also allows a way to talk publically |
| 21:26.38 | L4m3r | ... |
| 21:26.50 | Mr_Molez | like if u put public: message |
| 21:26.52 | Mr_Molez | or something |
| 21:27.22 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, do /say for all |
| 21:27.23 | L4m3r | or a secondary slash command |
| 21:28.06 | L4m3r | how is this plugin not working gnurdux? |
| 21:28.17 | L4m3r | it should be fairly straightforward to do |
| 21:28.27 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, it works |
| 21:28.40 | Gnurdux | but the user who chatted doesnt see the [Team] |
| 21:28.48 | Gnurdux | everyone else does |
| 21:28.59 | L4m3r | maybe it's better that way :P |
| 21:29.17 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, not really, cause its only active during matches |
| 21:29.26 | Gnurdux | so you can't easily tell that your chatting team |
| 21:29.54 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, how does RT7 decide if a user is "allowed" to join during a match? |
| 21:29.59 | Gnurdux | here is what I was thinking: |
| 21:30.16 | Gnurdux | if they are verified and their nick is one of the original nicks, they can always join |
| 21:30.18 | DTRemenak | that's inherent in the protocol. you won't see modifications that the server makes to your messages, since they aren't sent back to you |
| 21:30.23 | DTRemenak | saves bandwidth |
| 21:30.24 | L4m3r | there's a bzdb var called _allowPlayers or something that kicks newcomers during a match |
| 21:30.28 | Gnurdux | DTRemenak, not true |
| 21:30.34 | Gnurdux | DTRemenak, ever seen chatchannel |
| 21:30.42 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, what algorithm tho? |
| 21:30.50 | Gnurdux | cause sometimes players leave for a sec |
| 21:30.57 | Gnurdux | or people want to do substitutions |
| 21:31.15 | spldart | umm |
| 21:31.18 | spldart | hrm |
| 21:31.20 | L4m3r | then an ever-present admin changes the var so they can come back |
| 21:31.35 | spldart | o...k... |
| 21:31.39 | Gnurdux | DTRemenak, chatchannel you only see what chatchannel sends |
| 21:31.40 | spldart | lol |
| 21:31.56 | spldart | that's better |
| 21:31.57 | spldart | lol |
| 21:32.46 | TD-Linux | ~burn spldart |
| 21:32.47 | ibot | ibot pours gasoline all over spldart, ignites the fire, and then enjoys some toasty marshmallows with the glorious blaze |
| 21:32.59 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, my idea: if you are verified and had an original callsign from when match started and were on that team, you can join, no matter what, kicking substitutes if necesary. otherwise, you can join, but only if there is less people on the team than there were when the match started |
| 21:33.00 | TD-Linux | the gasoline probably helped too] |
| 21:33.04 | spldart | hah |
| 21:33.04 | Gnurdux | how does that sound L4m3r ? |
| 21:33.20 | L4m3r | simple? lol |
| 21:33.22 | spldart | alcohol doesn't burn with glorious blaze |
| 21:33.29 | spldart | but then again gas kinda does |
| 21:33.58 | L4m3r | spraypaint is good. |
| 21:34.21 | TD-Linux | how hot does alcohol burn? |
| 21:34.27 | TD-Linux | never have figured that out |
| 21:35.00 | spldart | dunnno but it burns clear |
| 21:35.47 | spldart | more effort cuz you got to put away dry but you can run more compression |
| 21:36.06 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, gnurdux.homelinux.net:5154 |
| 21:36.10 | Gnurdux | join as observer |
| 21:37.28 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, sry rejoin |
| 21:41.58 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, try talking |
| 21:42.03 | Gnurdux | on the sevrer |
| 21:42.25 | Gnurdux | who else knows about plugins |
| 21:46.04 | Gnurdux | L4m3r, ah i forgot the -time option |
| 21:46.23 | Gnurdux | come now |
| 21:49.55 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/MSVC/VC8/bzflag.vcproj: add autohunt.cxx|h |
| 21:50.57 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/game/DynamicColor.cxx: quell warning |
| 21:51.52 | spldart | umm |
| 21:51.57 | spldart | crap. |
| 21:52.25 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, wierd the plugin doesnt work on my comp |
| 21:52.32 | Gnurdux | the matchNoObs thing |
| 21:56.44 | L4m3r | matchnoobs :D |
| 21:57.29 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 21:57.40 | Gnurdux | matchNoObsPublic |
| 21:58.13 | Gnurdux | something very strange: bz_sendTextMessage(chatData->from, eObservers, chatData->message.c_str()); |
| 21:58.13 | Gnurdux | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:59.26 | larsl | Why is the .c_str() necessary? Does the BZ API take const char*s instead of std::strings? |
| 21:59.50 | L4m3r | Generally, yes. |
| 21:59.54 | larsl | Ew. |
| 22:00.06 | L4m3r | well, it WAS written in C originally. |
| 22:00.31 | larsl | You mean 10 years ago? |
| 22:00.38 | L4m3r | plus, you can't really use std::string for much for some weird reason... it likes to use "bzApiString"s or something like that |
| 22:01.05 | L4m3r | yes, 10 years ago. :P |
| 22:03.45 | DTRemenak | actually, bzflag itself handles almost everything with std::strings |
| 22:04.06 | DTRemenak | the api takes const char* for compatibility with other libraries and languages |
| 22:04.20 | larsl | That's nasty for C++. |
| 22:04.32 | larsl | SOunds like the API needs C++ bindings. =) |
| 22:04.44 | L4m3r | well, it's not SO bad when you can just use the c_str method |
| 22:04.48 | DTRemenak | that could be done |
| 22:05.47 | CBG | ~lart Mr_Molez |
| 22:06.21 | spldart | 8-0 |
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| 22:07.53 | spldart | ~lart me |
| 22:07.59 | spldart | yikes |
| 22:08.21 | L4m3r | what happens if... |
| 22:08.32 | spldart | LOL |
| 22:08.33 | me | someone lart me |
| 22:08.37 | larsl | ~lart me |
| 22:08.43 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 22:08.48 | me | mwahaha! I am un-lartable! |
| 22:08.53 | spldart | LMAO |
| 22:08.58 | CBG | ~lart "me" |
| 22:09.10 | spldart | lmao |
| 22:09.15 | CBG | :P |
| 22:27.10 | spldart | dude... that's pretty sweet :) |
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| 22:30.02 | spldart | I need to take my drunk "@&#$" to windows to do some file management... "And there was much rejoicing.. Yay...." |
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| 22:43.45 | spldart | umm.... that didn't work |
| 22:48.32 | DTRemenak | file management while drunk? |
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| 23:23.44 | brad | are the plugin docs in CVS up to date? |
| 23:25.37 | JeffM2501 | ni |
| 23:25.40 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 23:26.39 | ruskie | :) |
| 23:27.00 | brad | any idea of what's missing? :) |
| 23:27.14 | JeffM2501 | a lot |
| 23:27.25 | JeffM2501 | I've been slowly redoing the API in head |
| 23:27.27 | ruskie | DTRemenak, hmmm that sounds like a bad idea... I know from "file managment whle half asleep" experience |
| 23:27.34 | JeffM2501 | so I was gonna finish it before I doced it cus it may change |
| 23:27.43 | brad | ah ok |
| 23:28.04 | DTRemenak | ruskie: 'twas spldart's idea, I was just questioning the wisdom of it :) |
| 23:28.14 | ruskie | :) |
| 23:28.20 | JeffM2501 | so it dosn't have any of the V1 structs or the new messages I did |
| 23:28.23 | DTRemenak | heh, isn't the idea of an API not to redo it, JeffM2501? :) |
| 23:28.28 | ruskie | yeah I know :) still it's generaly a bad idea :) |
| 23:28.44 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, yeah I know, but I'm redoing it and versioning it, so we can actualy keep it ;) |
| 23:28.50 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 23:28.56 | DTRemenak | twice as much to maintain then ;) |
| 23:29.01 | JeffM2501 | the 2.0.x api was beta |
| 23:29.10 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, no, it's class based |
| 23:29.14 | JeffM2501 | so just keep derivin |
| 23:29.48 | DTRemenak | ah, so not twice as many hooks then? |
| 23:29.54 | ruskie | anyway my brain is near to critical shutdown for the night... I'm off... |
| 23:30.06 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/ (12 files in 2 dirs): |
| 23:30.06 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: split HUDuiControl into two pieces. |
| 23:30.06 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: HUDuiElement contains necessary members for display of interactive and noninteractive UI elements. |
| 23:30.06 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: HUDuiControl derives from HUDuiElement and adds members for focus control and interactive manipulation. |
| 23:30.06 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: Modify HUDDialog to allow a list of HUDuiElements which are not necessarily HUDuiControls to be added and automatically rendered. |
| 23:30.11 | JeffM2501 | I tried to spread it out |
| 23:30.32 | JeffM2501 | where the events call only the latest interface, and just fill out the old data, as well as the new data |
| 23:30.36 | JeffM2501 | we'll have to see |
| 23:30.51 | JeffM2501 | mostly I'm just seeing how people use the 2.0.x one |
| 23:30.53 | DTRemenak | k :) |
| 23:30.56 | JeffM2501 | and trying to plan from there |
| 23:31.41 | JeffM2501 | I'm REALY considering making all the event data be just a list of name, value pairs |
| 23:31.50 | JeffM2501 | then we can add/remove data as needed |
| 23:31.56 | JeffM2501 | and not break anything |
| 23:32.32 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 23:34.07 | JeffM2501 | I'm glad people are using it tho |
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| 23:34.18 | JeffM2501 | when it was first started some didn't think it was usefull |
| 23:35.17 | DTRemenak | true :) |
| 23:35.22 | JeffM2501 | we'll have to see what other ideas I get now that I've spent 100$ |
| 23:35.30 | DTRemenak | heh...on what? |
| 23:35.36 | JeffM2501 | text files |
| 23:35.42 | DTRemenak | fun |
| 23:35.52 | JeffM2501 | torque |
| 23:36.29 | DTRemenak | ah |
| 23:37.17 | JeffM2501 | they clarified there license RE: open souce well enough now |
| 23:38.03 | DTRemenak | oh, btw, you'll need to add a couple files to vc71, I didn't bother. HUDuiElement.cxx|h |
| 23:38.19 | JeffM2501 | k |
| 23:38.22 | JeffM2501 | what do they do? |
| 23:38.27 | DTRemenak | but you might want to wait, there's more to come |
| 23:38.31 | JeffM2501 | kj |
| 23:38.44 | DTRemenak | see commit message about two pages up |
| 23:38.46 | JeffM2501 | I have VC8 now on this machine, so I can see where they go :) |
| 23:38.51 | DTRemenak | cool :) |
| 23:39.06 | JeffM2501 | yeah what does that message mean in english :) |
| 23:40.16 | DTRemenak | it means it's possible to create new HUDui elements which can never be manipulated by the user...like decorations or whatever. first one in will be a frame. |
| 23:40.41 | DTRemenak | e.g. ui elements that have no need to accept focus |
| 23:40.54 | JeffM2501 | falir |
| 23:41.41 | DTRemenak | I wanted a frame. Didn't think I'd have to rewrite half the hud system to get one :) |
| 23:42.40 | JeffM2501 | the hudUI stuff is wierd |
| 23:42.50 | DTRemenak | it's a bit odd |
| 23:43.27 | JeffM2501 | have you seen gliGUI? |
| 23:43.32 | DTRemenak | nope |
| 23:43.41 | JeffM2501 | it's a full gui made on top of glut |
| 23:44.04 | JeffM2501 | wonderd how hard it would be to break it from glut, and hook in other mouse/key/texture inouts |
| 23:44.50 | DTRemenak | it'd actually be relatively simple to add mouse capability to our system |
| 23:45.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 23:45.15 | JeffM2501 | this had stuff like pulldowns, radio buttons |
| 23:45.19 | JeffM2501 | all the normal controls |
| 23:45.37 | DTRemenak | pulldowns would be easy too. just need to subclass huduilist |
| 23:45.50 | JeffM2501 | can always just grab the crazy eddie gui:) |
