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| 00:07.41 | menotume | ~dekarmatize DTRemenak |
| 00:07.43 | ibot | DTRemenak's karma has been set to zero |
| 00:07.51 | menotume | kewl |
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| 00:14.09 | JeffM2501 | ouch |
| 00:14.44 | menotume | ~dekarmatize JeffM2501 |
| 00:14.47 | ibot | JeffM2501's karma has been set to zero |
| 00:14.48 | JeffM2501 | ibot literal dekarmatize |
| 00:14.52 | menotume | shhhh |
| 00:15.03 | JeffM2501 | ~kick menotume |
| 00:15.04 | ibot | bugger off sod! |
| 00:15.08 | menotume | :D |
| 00:15.11 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 00:15.14 | JBdiGriz | ~menotume-- |
| 00:15.19 | Gnurdux | ~forget dekarmatize |
| 00:15.19 | ibot | i didn't have anything called 'dekarmatize' to forget, Gnurdux |
| 00:15.24 | Gnurdux | whoa |
| 00:15.27 | Gnurdux | lol |
| 00:15.35 | Gnurdux | how does this work? |
| 00:15.40 | Gnurdux | ~dekarmatize JeffM2501 |
| 00:15.43 | ibot | JeffM2501's karma has been set to zero |
| 00:15.44 | Gnurdux | ~karma JeffM2501 |
| 00:15.44 | ibot | jeffm2501 has karma of 332 |
| 00:15.49 | JeffM2501 | CBG, a little angry fang girl can't scare you |
| 00:15.50 | Gnurdux | how do you explain that menotume ? |
| 00:16.00 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, it's not a factoid ;) |
| 00:16.10 | JeffM2501 | or a command |
| 00:16.12 | Gnurdux | so a module that does nothing? |
| 00:16.22 | JeffM2501 | no, it returns a string |
| 00:16.26 | Gnurdux | heh |
| 00:16.38 | menotume | ~karma JeffM2501 |
| 00:16.38 | ibot | jeffm2501 has karma of 332 |
| 00:17.28 | JeffM2501 | ~karma patlabor221 |
| 00:17.29 | ibot | patlabor221 has neutral karma |
| 00:17.41 | JeffM2501 | ahh good, he got set to 0 |
| 00:19.59 | CBG | JeffM2501: pff, says You. |
| 00:20.21 | JeffM2501 | unless you made her angry.. did you make her angry? |
| 00:20.35 | CBG | I think so :( |
| 00:22.07 | JeffM2501 | oh.. |
| 00:22.10 | JeffM2501 | then your screwed man |
| 00:22.38 | CBG | But.... but... I have a badge that says "Unto god, only be honour and glory!"...! |
| 00:23.04 | JeffM2501 | I don't think she belives in god, with the fangs and all |
| 00:23.22 | CBG | But it's a prefect badge, she must obey me! :P |
| 00:23.42 | JeffM2501 | I think you'd have to show her personaly |
| 00:24.23 | CBG | I think I'll just go back to the running and screaming, *glavin*. |
| 00:42.41 | A-Delusion | as long as your running, please take these scissors. |
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| 01:35.54 | A_Meteorite | your whack? |
| 01:36.50 | Think_differentl | wha |
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| 04:32.07 | [NP]Tangent | I have no idea what I'm doing but |
| 04:32.30 | [NP]Tangent | no idea what I'm doing, but dangit, I am going to try |
| 04:32.31 | [NP]Tangent | :D |
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| 05:51.51 | [NP]Tangent | whoa |
| 05:51.57 | [NP]Tangent | this is neat |
| 05:52.10 | [NP]Tangent | the zombie game mode that lamer and tropican made |
| 05:52.16 | [NP]Tangent | that's a sweet little idea there |
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| 16:14.38 | romfis | brad ?? |
| 16:16.31 | CBG | afk I think, romfis |
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| 17:06.48 | A_Meteorite | ~logs |
| 17:06.49 | ibot | [logs] http://ibot.rikers.org/%23bzflag/, or stats http://ibot.rikers.org/stats/bzflag.html.gz |
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| 17:34.15 | A_Meteorite | How do you make a patch of CVS? I looked at the logs at what Skeeve did, but it didn't seem to work... |
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| 17:41.08 | JeffM2501 | right click in the folder for bzflag, and hit "make patch" |
| 17:42.32 | A_Meteorite | is that xcode? :\ |
| 17:43.23 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 17:43.30 | JeffM2501 | xcode dosn't do cvs IIRC |
| 17:43.47 | JeffM2501 | man cvs for you then |
| 17:44.06 | A_Meteorite | oh... in what program would I right-click? in some app, certainly not Finder? |
| 17:44.08 | A_Meteorite | heh ok |
| 17:44.24 | JeffM2501 | if you were on windows, you'd right click in explorer ( the finder ) |
| 17:44.30 | A_Meteorite | ah |
| 17:44.36 | A_Meteorite | that's just too easy :P |
| 17:44.43 | JeffM2501 | it can't be |
| 17:44.51 | JeffM2501 | macs are suposed to be "better" at all things |
| 17:44.57 | JeffM2501 | so it must just be a myth |
| 17:45.00 | A_Meteorite | *sigh* |
| 17:45.11 | A_Meteorite | I bet I can find an app to do the same thing ;) |
| 17:45.54 | CBG | I'm more than an average user, never had to make a patch for anything. |
| 17:45.56 | JeffM2501 | there is one forSVN that is close |
| 17:46.10 | JeffM2501 | ahh so macs are only "better" for average users |
| 17:46.11 | JeffM2501 | I see |
| 17:46.19 | JeffM2501 | deviate from the norm and your screwed |
| 17:46.32 | A_Meteorite | uhh... thanks for your thoughtful insight |
| 17:46.36 | A_Meteorite | it can't be worse than linux |
| 17:46.43 | JeffM2501 | buy your ipod, play your music, make bad web pages with iLife ;) |
| 17:46.46 | CBG | ... yeah, really good point there JeffM2501 |
| 17:46.54 | A_Meteorite | actually, I hate iLife |
| 17:46.57 | A_Meteorite | *iWeb |
| 17:47.03 | CBG | yeah. |
| 17:47.08 | A_Meteorite | I'll give you that |
| 17:47.12 | A_Meteorite | apple did a horrible job there |
| 17:47.12 | CBG | It's a huge app too. :| |
| 17:47.14 | JeffM2501 | as for linux, at least I can get OSX to install. not so much for linux here |
| 17:47.22 | CBG | Pure memory waste. |
| 17:47.24 | JeffM2501 | blasphemy!!!! |
| 17:47.33 | JeffM2501 | steve jobs has to come kill you now |
| 17:47.39 | A_Meteorite | hah |
| 17:48.15 | CBG | I'd like to see him try! |
| 17:48.38 | JeffM2501 | why do you think OSX is generaly 10%slower then the same hardware runing windows, cus it sends everything you do to apple |
| 17:48.41 | JeffM2501 | and that takes CPU |
| 17:49.45 | JeffM2501 | dude it's like 11AM |
| 17:50.28 | JeffM2501 | ugg.. why do I get the feeling I'm gonna have to go buy another video card today? |
| 17:50.32 | A_Meteorite | (s/drunk/mentally ill/) correction: thinks JeffM2501 is mentally ill |
| 17:50.48 | JeffM2501 | I must be if I deviate from the apple podling norm |
| 17:51.06 | A_Meteorite | but don't you already got a 7800? or is it a 6600? I forget :) |
| 17:51.17 | JeffM2501 | I'm an abomination, I have my mini running from a PS2 keybard |
| 17:51.22 | A_Meteorite | woah |
| 17:51.24 | JeffM2501 | oh not for the main machine |
| 17:51.32 | JeffM2501 | it has a 7800GTX |
| 17:51.47 | JeffM2501 | this has a FX5200 |
| 17:51.55 | A_Meteorite | that's a lot of pep, I bet the only thing that slows it down is BF2 with AF and AA ;) |
| 17:51.59 | JeffM2501 | but the old GF2 in the build system is like dead |
| 17:52.00 | A_Meteorite | oh, a 5200 |
| 17:52.11 | A_Meteorite | ick, yeah, you should upgrade it now. as I speak. :P |
| 17:52.19 | A_Meteorite | brb |
| 17:52.25 | JeffM2501 | I don't play games on this machine |
| 17:52.29 | JeffM2501 | so why should I upgrade? |
| 17:54.03 | A_Meteorite | back |
| 17:54.08 | bryjen | being 11AM doesn't make it less true or likely, just if it is true, more sad. |
| 17:54.09 | A_Meteorite | you just said you felt like upgrading... :\ |
| 17:54.17 | JeffM2501 | no I didn't |
| 17:54.20 | JeffM2501 | you infered that ;) |
| 17:54.41 | A_Meteorite | "ugg.. why do I get the feeling I'm gonna have to go buy another video card today?" |
| 17:54.45 | JeffM2501 | you also assumed I have only one computer |
| 17:55.06 | A_Meteorite | umm.. who buys a video card and not upgrade? a video card IS an upgrade. Unless I'm stupid :) |
| 17:55.21 | JeffM2501 | unless it's just to replace one that is busted |
| 17:55.30 | A_Meteorite | ah |
| 17:55.30 | JeffM2501 | on a system that dosn't need fast video |
| 17:55.53 | JeffM2501 | linux dosnt' seem to like the crap integrated |
| 17:55.58 | A_Meteorite | heh |
| 17:56.26 | bryjen | yes, we prefer our crap seperated out ;) |
| 17:56.43 | A_Meteorite | bryjen: lol |
| 17:56.44 | JeffM2501 | and if I put an nivdia in it and install the drivers, the bins made for it will be NVonly |
| 17:56.56 | A_Meteorite | well, I'm away right now... gotta have full concetration to match saturos ;) |
| 17:57.26 | CBG | gotta have a lot of skill too |
| 17:57.39 | CBG | and even if you got both of those, you're gonna want a lot of luck also. |
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| 18:09.53 | [NP]Tangent | yeah... http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=5796515&type=product&productCategoryId=cat01064&id=1058188350464 |
| 18:10.02 | [NP]Tangent | I might want to get want of those |
| 18:10.06 | [NP]Tangent | I have been wanting a joystick |
| 18:10.10 | brad | romfis: ? |
| 18:10.12 | [NP]Tangent | and now that I have a job... I can afford one |
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| 18:10.16 | [NP]Tangent | Hi AHA |
| 18:10.39 | A_Heart_Attack | heu |
| 18:10.41 | A_Heart_Attack | *hey |
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| 18:11.28 | jcape | Could a viper admin please IP-ban "axl rose"? This is the fourth time he's been there that I've seen. |
| 18:11.45 | A_Heart_Attack | poll ban him |
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| 18:12.13 | jcape | Yeah, and tomorrow he will be back. |
| 18:12.18 | jcape | And the day after that, and so on. |
| 18:14.05 | A_Heart_Attack | lol |
| 18:14.10 | A_Heart_Attack | i just tried to poll ban him but he left |
| 18:14.30 | Gnurdux | who are you talking about? |
| 18:14.41 | A_Heart_Attack | axl rose |
| 18:14.50 | A_Heart_Attack | hes a TK |
| 18:14.53 | Gnurdux | ah |
| 18:14.55 | A_Heart_Attack | and caps his own flag |
| 18:15.04 | A_Heart_Attack | and his email stirng is disgusting |
| 18:15.07 | A_Heart_Attack | *digusting |
| 18:15.12 | A_Heart_Attack | **disgustign |
| 18:15.15 | A_Heart_Attack | w. |
| 18:15.17 | A_Heart_Attack | *w/e |
| 18:15.22 | A_Heart_Attack | wow i cant spell today |
| 18:23.31 | Gnurdux | Mr_Molez, you know brad banned you from ##openleague |
| 18:23.42 | Gnurdux | you might wanna /msg ChanServ unban ##openleague |
| 18:24.14 | [NP]Tangent | yeah |
| 18:24.19 | [NP]Tangent | axl rose has been on my server before |
| 18:24.21 | [NP]Tangent | nasty bugger |
| 18:26.35 | [NP]Tangent | grr, I wanted to play on my maze map, but aprehend just went away |
| 18:26.38 | [NP]Tangent | >:( |
| 18:35.42 | romfis | brad ? |
| 18:37.00 | romfis | can you send me a Email addy? and i send you screenshots, i seen a bug. |
| 18:37.12 | romfis | @brad! |
| 18:37.17 | romfis | :D |
| 18:37.19 | brad | hi romfiso |
| 18:37.21 | romfis | hi |
| 18:37.23 | romfis | !! |
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| 18:37.27 | brad | email is in PM |
| 18:37.32 | romfis | k |
| 18:37.38 | romfis | later |
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| 18:58.53 | yunta | hi |
| 19:27.23 | I_Died_Once | DTRemenak - ping, I got a stupid question |
| 19:28.15 | DTRemenak | I_Died_Once: pong, I got a stupid answer |
| 19:29.12 | I_Died_Once | ok - what I'm on a server and I do a /reload |
| 19:29.25 | I_Died_Once | does it reload the crontab for the bzfscron plugin? |
| 19:31.03 | DTRemenak | nope |
| 19:31.07 | DTRemenak | I didn't hook that |
| 19:31.11 | DTRemenak | do /bzfscron reload |
| 19:31.36 | JeffM2501 | probably would be a good idea to ad a reload event |
| 19:31.49 | DTRemenak | probably |
| 19:31.54 | DTRemenak | it'd be kinda slick |
| 19:32.04 | DTRemenak | I didn't even think of it |
| 19:32.16 | JeffM2501 | it's come up before |
| 19:32.17 | I_Died_Once | it'd rawk |
| 19:32.24 | JeffM2501 | oh god |
| 19:32.29 | JeffM2501 | that's as bad as kewl |
| 19:32.35 | JeffM2501 | that means we can't posibly do it now |
| 19:32.38 | I_Died_Once | I know, did it on purpose |
| 19:32.44 | I_Died_Once | gah! |
| 19:33.06 | I_Died_Once | so, short of restarting the server, manually unloading and reloading the plugin is my only option? |
| 19:33.07 | JeffM2501 | ok so pqi ram oficialy sucks |
| 19:33.16 | DTRemenak | I_Died_Once: no, use /bzfscron reload |
| 19:33.19 | JeffM2501 | I_Died_Once, read what dtr said ;) |
| 19:34.11 | I_Died_Once | unknown command |
| 19:34.48 | DTRemenak | hmm |
| 19:35.34 | DTRemenak | hm, I seem to have deleted bzfscron |
| 19:35.37 | DTRemenak | oops |
| 19:35.41 | I_Died_Once | its on the forum |
| 19:35.59 | DTRemenak | yeah, hope it's up to date though :) |
| 19:35.59 | I_Died_Once | its still, IMO, the best plugin available |
| 19:36.08 | I_Died_Once | does all my beotch work |
| 19:36.10 | I_Died_Once | well, a bit of it |
| 19:36.28 | DTRemenak | it's the worst hack I've ever written |
| 19:36.32 | DTRemenak | one of the most useful too |
| 19:37.16 | I_Died_Once | thats what i meant |
| 19:37.28 | DTRemenak | ah, /cron reload |
| 19:37.53 | DTRemenak | and /cron list will show the current crontab |
| 19:38.02 | DTRemenak | so you can make sure it's picking up changes |
| 19:39.25 | I_Died_Once | ahhhh |
| 19:44.22 | bryjen | pqi ram? |
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| 19:47.23 | JeffM2501 | yah a brand |
| 19:47.32 | JeffM2501 | 2 difrent machines, did not like it in pairs |
| 19:47.49 | JeffM2501 | they put a "heat spreader" on it too, if you remove it it voids the waranty |
| 19:47.58 | JeffM2501 | and it's stuck on wiht double sided tape |
| 19:48.22 | JeffM2501 | I take out one of the pair, and now linux installs and runs fine on the machine |
| 19:48.57 | bryjen | that doesn't sound like it'd have good thermal-conductive qualities ;) |
| 19:49.02 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 19:49.20 | JeffM2501 | so now I have to go get a single 512 to get this machine working right |
| 19:49.51 | bryjen | so they're half-suck. OK with one, but two add up to suck. |
| 19:49.53 | bryjen | :) |
| 19:50.03 | JeffM2501 | yeah but they only sell them in pairs ;) |
| 19:52.06 | bryjen | how many sockets on the board? its not something goofy about needing to use #1 & #3 instead of #1 & #2 ? |
| 19:52.18 | bryjen | or vice-versa |
| 19:52.21 | JeffM2501 | nope |
| 19:52.28 | JeffM2501 | it only has 2 DDR1 slots |
| 19:52.32 | JeffM2501 | and 2 DDR2 slots |
| 19:52.41 | bryjen | well then |
| 19:52.51 | JeffM2501 | hard to mess that up :) |
| 19:52.58 | bryjen | yeah |
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| 20:00.09 | brad | anyone know why I'm getting people with blank callsigns on my server? |
| 20:00.19 | brad | is this a known bug? |
| 20:04.32 | I_Died_Once | I got another question - what perm is tied into "/masterban reload" |
| 20:04.59 | brad | the "masterban" perm? ;) |
| 20:05.14 | JeffM2501 | same as reload IIRC |
| 20:05.36 | JeffM2501 | brad, no it's probably something with your network or router |
| 20:05.45 | brad | oh |
| 20:06.11 | I_Died_Once | nah /reload does not reload the masterbanlist |
| 20:06.29 | brad | same perm as reload I think he meant |
| 20:06.42 | I_Died_Once | Once we get it striaght, we're gonna let everyoen use the mofobanlist |
| 20:06.42 | JeffM2501 | you asked what perm |
| 20:06.58 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't have it's own perm, it uses the same perm as reload |
| 20:07.08 | JeffM2501 | you'll probalby need to add a new perm to your server for that |
| 20:07.19 | I_Died_Once | thats odd - can I /reload, but not /masterban reload without giivng the server pasword |
| 20:07.37 | JeffM2501 | yeah there is a reload perm IIRC |
| 20:09.25 | I_Died_Once | does /reload re-load the groups file? |
| 20:10.02 | JeffM2501 | it reloads a lot of stuff |
| 20:10.46 | JeffM2501 | just have your servers do a cron that reloads masterban every halfour |
| 20:11.00 | I_Died_Once | fifteen minutes |
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| 20:11.26 | JeffM2501 | then when you add stuff to your mofo masterban using what ever interface you use, then the other servers will pick it up |
| 20:11.46 | JeffM2501 | and you don't have to give out any kind of perms to anyone |
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| 20:12.33 | I_Died_Once | got ya,but I wanna make sure all my peoeple can reload it without having the server password |
| 20:12.43 | I_Died_Once | and I dont wanna kill my game if I aint gotta |
| 20:12.45 | JeffM2501 | if it's automated, they won't need to |
| 20:13.16 | JeffM2501 | at the worst case, they wait 14.9 min |
| 20:13.25 | I_Died_Once | and oen more thing about the banlist... say i recently added someone to it, but they are still on the server... i was hoping it would kick them off when it reloaded |
| 20:13.32 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 20:13.37 | JeffM2501 | it only checks on join |
| 20:13.57 | I_Died_Once | too bad it dont check on reload also |
| 20:14.05 | JeffM2501 | patches welcome |
| 20:14.15 | JeffM2501 | you can implement it as a pluing |
| 20:14.22 | JeffM2501 | and have it check when ever you wanted |
| 20:14.24 | I_Died_Once | if I could code one |
| 20:14.35 | JeffM2501 | even have the server itself poll a php page for bans and changes |
| 20:15.18 | I_Died_Once | our banlist - the "MoFo Banlist" is almost ready for everyone to use, its y'alls masterbanlist plus some from our known asshat thread |
| 20:15.30 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 20:15.43 | brad | @Mr_Molez> cuz im getting drunk tonight |
| 20:15.43 | JeffM2501 | then just cron it up and that's all you need |
| 20:15.50 | brad | wrong window :p |
| 20:15.54 | brad | ignore |
| 20:16.04 | JeffM2501 | and the manual says what /reload does |
| 20:16.39 | I_Died_Once | yeah, major props to DTR for the bzfs cron |
| 20:16.57 | JeffM2501 | time to go get ram |
| 20:17.08 | I_Died_Once | rammed? |
| 20:17.51 | I_Died_Once | major MAJOR props to DTRamenak for the bzfs cron |
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| 20:22.30 | A_Meteorite | Hmmm.. Jeff says it doesn't check anyone on /reload for being banned.. but I was looking at the /reload code and it does check :\ |
| 20:22.55 | A_Meteorite | only thing is, doing /ban screws up your masterban |
| 20:23.03 | A_Meteorite | until you reload them both :) |
| 20:31.39 | I_Died_Once | well, I got it cron'd up, the Gimp Machine reloads and masterban reloads every fifteen minutes |
| 20:32.16 | I_Died_Once | long live the GImp Machine and DTRenemak |
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| 20:39.46 | Gnurdux | A_Meteorite, you serious? you actually TRUSTED something Jeff told you? |
| 20:40.34 | A_Meteorite | Gnurdux: well, he's usually right ;) |
| 20:40.56 | Gnurdux | i know i know |
| 20:41.08 | Gnurdux | it would be a lot dumber to trust something i said... |
| 20:41.12 | Gnurdux | but thats another story |
| 20:41.37 | Gnurdux | but it prolly is true that checking source is the best way to check something |
| 20:41.43 | Gnurdux | unless its in playing.cxx :P |
| 20:42.34 | trepan | (and you're too dumb to use search tools) |
| 20:43.03 | Gnurdux | heh that too |
| 20:43.05 | Gnurdux | grep pwns |
| 20:49.20 | DTRemenak | yeah, it "pwns" you :P |
| 20:49.32 | Gnurdux | yes it does |
| 20:49.46 | Gnurdux | grep pwns everyone, and everything pwns me, so.... |
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| 21:01.20 | [NP]Tangent | ugh |
| 21:01.33 | [NP]Tangent | my new joystick isn't working right with bzflag |
| 21:01.45 | [NP]Tangent | brb |
| 21:05.06 | [NP]Tangent | see what's happening is... moving the joystick straight forwards or backwards doesn't do anything, but moving it to the left moves me forwards and left, and right moves me backwards and right |
| 21:07.54 | menotume | turn your joystick 45% clockwise |
| 21:08.01 | menotume | 45 degrees |
| 21:10.46 | [NP]Tangent | nevermind |
| 21:10.48 | [NP]Tangent | I fixed it |
| 21:10.54 | [NP]Tangent | the axis settings were weird |
| 21:11.01 | menotume | :) |
| 21:11.11 | [NP]Tangent | for some reason it didn't work the first time in bz |
| 21:11.14 | [NP]Tangent | had to restart it |
| 21:34.33 | TD-Linux | same thing happened to me, same way I fixed it :) |
| 21:35.47 | Gnurdux | does plugin sound ever work? |
| 21:41.59 | DTRemenak | no |
| 21:42.13 | DTRemenak | best it ever does is crashes |
| 21:43.38 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/SceneBuilder.cxx: speeling: texuture -> texture |
| 21:44.38 | Gnurdux | thats too bad |
| 21:44.56 | Gnurdux | I wanted to make a plugin that says "GOOOOOOOLLLLL!" like Spanish soccer announcers on caps |
| 21:47.47 | CIA-6 | BZFlag: 03dtremenak * 10bzflag/src/platform/SDLJoystick.cxx: if there's no explicit axis set, leave the defaults rather than setting to 0 (X). should fix axis misdetection on sdl joysticks. |
| 21:48.01 | DTRemenak | [NP]Tangent, TD-Linux: fixed it ;) |
| 21:48.46 | CBG | lol at <menotume> turn your joystick 45 clockwise |
| 21:53.08 | I_Died_Once | MrsSmith is hot |
| 21:54.03 | [NP]Tangent | yeah, DTR, my joystick should have been x:4 and y:1 |
| 21:54.07 | [NP]Tangent | I think that's what it is |
| 21:54.48 | DTRemenak | x:0 and y:1 is normal/default. the code was implicitly setting both x and y to 0 |
| 21:55.39 | DTRemenak | I always explicity set x:2 and y:3, so I never noticed that the defaults didn't work out of the box |
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| 21:59.09 | Gnurdux | ummm |
| 21:59.15 | Gnurdux | who the hell wrote the sound thingy? |
| 22:01.56 | Gnurdux | the custom sound thing is b0rked |
| 22:02.02 | Gnurdux | for a very simple reason |
| 22:03.26 | Gnurdux | playLocalSound(string) uses a different list then playLocalSound(int), yet it calls playLocalSound(int) |
| 22:08.35 | Gnurdux | If I fixed custom sounds, could they go into 2.0 CVS :P? |
| 22:16.41 | Gnurdux | hmmm |
| 22:16.59 | Gnurdux | agh its so badly designed it would be hard to fix |
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| 23:01.46 | blast007 | Gnurdux: does it require a client-side fix? |
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| 23:26.22 | I_Died_Once | So Jeff, did you get rammed? |
| 23:28.16 | JeffM2501 | totaly |
| 23:28.19 | JeffM2501 | for only 44$ |
| 23:29.26 | JeffM2501 | and now I can do the TE builds :) asuming you all still want them |
| 23:29.40 | I_Died_Once | I'm sure thats a yes |
| 23:30.06 | JeffM2501 | doing a test build of stock BZ then I'll move my code over and get it building |
| 23:30.23 | JeffM2501 | pissed me off that all this time it's been bad ram :( |
| 23:30.41 | I_Died_Once | how long you been running with bad ram? |
| 23:31.11 | JeffM2501 | the the machine wiht it, aperantly since I got it |
| 23:31.16 | JeffM2501 | 2months or so |
| 23:31.33 | JeffM2501 | tho the ram may not be bad, it just dosn't like pairs, so it could be the mobo |
| 23:31.34 | JeffM2501 | dono |
| 23:31.45 | JeffM2501 | it's working with a single 512 now |
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| 23:44.36 | Gnurdux | blast007, yes, its a client side problem |
| 23:45.14 | Gnurdux | unfortunately |
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| 23:49.56 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501: how practical would it be for a league to have some sort of script to automatically add members to the global group? |
| 23:51.02 | menotume | not |
| 23:51.14 | JeffM2501 | if you can write the script to use the existing html interface, fine |
| 23:51.16 | menotume | well, not bad |
| 23:51.24 | JeffM2501 | we don't have any simple direct interface for it |
| 23:51.33 | menotume | but, the point of having the global group usually is to have some control |
| 23:51.39 | Gnurdux | I was afraid you would say that, but I'll take a look |
| 23:51.59 | JeffM2501 | you'd just have to have it fill out some forms and login as the group owner |
| 23:52.13 | Gnurdux | menotume, well.. a large part of it is so that non-members can't start crashing matches |
| 23:52.24 | Gnurdux | ok i'll take a look at the interface |
| 23:52.27 | JeffM2501 | and parse the resulting HTML |
| 23:52.29 | menotume | so, all they do is sign-up, and bingo, they're in |
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| 23:53.17 | menotume | you need to make sure they are who they say they are too |
| 23:53.32 | menotume | the user must use their bzbb password |
| 23:54.07 | Gnurdux | why do we need to make sure they're who they say they are? why shouldnt i be able to add someone else's callsign? |
| 23:54.17 | menotume | huh ? |
| 23:54.18 | JeffM2501 | the owner can |
| 23:54.25 | JeffM2501 | both of you are not talking about the same thing ;) |
| 23:54.42 | menotume | let's say i'm menotume on bzbb, and meno at the league site |
| 23:54.44 | Gnurdux | why shouldn't I be able to join as menotume if I want |
| 23:54.47 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, basicly if I sign on in game as Gnardux, you'd NOT want to add me |
| 23:54.48 | Gnurdux | ahh true |
| 23:55.05 | JeffM2501 | Gnurdux, because youd' add meno to the group and that would be wrong |
| 23:55.06 | menotume | so many aliases out there |
| 23:55.22 | JeffM2501 | so you'd need to verify that they are globaly authed first |
| 23:55.29 | JeffM2501 | cus you can only do global groups for global users |
| 23:55.31 | Gnurdux | ah I see your point |
| 23:55.46 | menotume | otherwise, at some point, you'd have quite a mess in the group list :) |
| 23:55.50 | JeffM2501 | now what you CAN do a lot easyer is have them in a local group |
| 23:55.52 | Gnurdux | i was thinking of just making the script an hourly task |
| 23:55.53 | JeffM2501 | for "add in users" |
| 23:56.09 | JeffM2501 | just have your script write a new groups file ( append ) and do a reload |
| 23:56.39 | JeffM2501 | then the global group is real leaguers |
| 23:56.52 | JeffM2501 | yeah why not just give leauge perms to all verified users |
| 23:57.03 | JeffM2501 | why do they need to be your special group |
| 23:57.07 | menotume | you need global-auth to spawn/talk anyway ... so if you wnat to cause trouble, you just go sign-up at the league site |
| 23:58.04 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, the point is so that non-league members can't accidentally crash matches etc |
| 23:58.21 | Gnurdux | and if they are league members, the league can simply ban them and remove them from the global group |
| 23:58.30 | JeffM2501 | and you want them to be able to "crash" them? |
| 23:58.35 | Gnurdux | no |
| 23:58.57 | Gnurdux | so that I can't join during a match, just because I don't know not to, etc |
| 23:59.09 | JeffM2501 | set up a plugin that you turn on that kicks anyone who isn't leauge for the match duration |
| 23:59.20 | JeffM2501 | just hook into the onspawn |
| 23:59.34 | Gnurdux | how does it know if they are league? |
| 23:59.41 | menotume | global group! |
| 23:59.42 | menotume | :P |
| 23:59.44 | JeffM2501 | they would be in the leauge group |
| 23:59.45 | Gnurdux | exactly |
| 23:59.51 | JeffM2501 | they are ALLREADY IN THE GROUP |
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| 23:59.56 | Gnurdux | JeffM2501, but we've gone in circular reasoning |