| 00:00.19 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: more stuff to allow before MsgEnter |
| 00:01.16 | Flash | is the LOCAL.GLOBAL group still relevant? |
| 00:01.44 | *** join/#bzflag urgrl (n=18e399ec@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:02.35 | Erroneous | yes |
| 00:02.49 | Erroneous | LOCAL.GLOBAL is a security precaution |
| 00:03.12 | Erroneous | as long as we have local groups, we need LOCAL.GLOBAL |
| 00:03.51 | Flash | the comment says "dont accept global auth if there's a local account..." |
| 00:03.52 | *** join/#bzflag H0ley (n=H0ley@adsl-69-228-94-11.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 00:03.57 | Flash | that doesn't seem to make sense, if there aren't local accounts |
| 00:04.06 | Erroneous | hm, yeah, blast007 is probably right JeffM2501: MsgUDPLinkRequest/MsgUDPLinkEstablished/MsgUDPLinkUpdate |
| 00:06.21 | Erroneous | should come in before flag negotiation even |
| 00:07.16 | Erroneous | Flash: not having LOCAL.GLOBAL would mean that you could not share group auth files with older versions of bzflag |
| 00:07.42 | Erroneous | err user auth files |
| 00:08.05 | Flash | why would you share user auth files? isn't it all global in 2.1? |
| 00:08.14 | Erroneous | no, for local groups |
| 00:08.26 | Erroneous | userdb contains user<->group membership mappings |
| 00:08.35 | blast007 | Erroneous: his point is that 2.1 doesn't have local auth ;) |
| 00:08.47 | blast007 | or does it still have local groups? |
| 00:08.48 | Erroneous | even if you have no local users |
| 00:08.50 | blast007 | just not passdb? |
| 00:08.51 | *** join/#bzflag Alec (n=46f27d7b@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:08.56 | Erroneous | yes, we still have local groups |
| 00:08.58 | blast007 | k |
| 00:09.06 | Erroneous | not having that would make lots of brokenness :) |
| 00:09.16 | Erroneous | as if we aren't breaking enough already |
| 00:09.25 | Erroneous | at least we have a good reason for eliminating passdb |
| 00:09.36 | JeffM2501 | those 3? |
| 00:09.41 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 00:09.47 | Erroneous | I'm not sure they're all valid, actually |
| 00:09.54 | Erroneous | but they might be |
| 00:10.02 | Erroneous | request and established are |
| 00:10.03 | JeffM2501 | okeys |
| 00:10.09 | Erroneous | dunno when update gets sent |
| 00:10.10 | Flash | what I'm struggling with is a message in ListServerConnection that tells you to /identify and /deregister |
| 00:10.10 | Flash | since those commands are gone, the else-clause should be removed as well |
| 00:10.10 | Flash | but if the else can't happen, is the if-clause testing a valid condition? |
| 00:10.32 | Erroneous | ah |
| 00:10.50 | Erroneous | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:10.58 | Erroneous | as admin |
| 00:11.05 | Flash | it's already gone (I didn't do it) |
| 00:11.10 | Erroneous | i.e. admins should be able to deregister people |
| 00:11.12 | Erroneous | heh |
| 00:11.17 | Erroneous | now THAT will break stuff |
| 00:11.24 | Erroneous | need to put it back, only for the admin case |
| 00:11.39 | Erroneous | change the message to "have an admin deregister you or add you to LOCAL.GLOBAL" |
| 00:11.47 | Flash | but /deregister was for local auth, right? |
| 00:11.57 | Erroneous | yes, it's how you remove your local auth records |
| 00:12.12 | Erroneous | if you have an old userdb you still have a reason to remove your local records |
| 00:12.15 | JeffM2501 | there is no "update" message for UDPLink |
| 00:12.15 | Flash | will local auth records make the trip from 2.0 to 2.1? |
| 00:12.29 | Erroneous | JeffM2501: hmm, funny, I have one here :) |
| 00:12.42 | JeffM2501 | where in the proto.h? |
| 00:12.46 | Erroneous | probably ought to look at 2.0 huh |
| 00:12.55 | JeffM2501 | / request for additional UDP link |
| 00:12.55 | JeffM2501 | const uint16_tMsgUDPLinkRequest = 0x6f66;// 'of' |
| 00:12.55 | JeffM2501 | const uint16_tMsgUDPLinkEstablished = 0x6f67;// 'og' |
| 00:13.15 | Erroneous | yeah, that's it in 2.0 |
| 00:13.15 | blast007 | JeffM2501: it's dying at LinkRequest |
| 00:13.24 | Erroneous | just request and established |
| 00:13.28 | JeffM2501 | ok, got those |
| 00:13.29 | Erroneous | Flash: yes, userdb |
| 00:14.12 | Erroneous | if you have a user locally registered, who is not linked to a global account, and you have no way to deregister him, essentially he will be locked out of that callsign permanently |
| 00:14.15 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: don't forgets the UDP |
| 00:14.20 | JeffM2501 | give that a go |
| 00:14.26 | Erroneous | or until he's added to LOCAL.GLOBAL |
| 00:14.46 | Erroneous | so maybe we don't need deregister |
| 00:15.02 | Erroneous | just change the message to say "have an admin add you to LOCAL.GLOBAL." |
| 00:15.15 | Erroneous | admins should be familiar enough with groups to do that now |
| 00:15.17 | Flash | ok. that's a lot less work |
| 00:15.39 | Erroneous | :) |
| 00:15.47 | Flash | I put in the reference to deregister, but I'm pretty sure the code to do it is gone |
| 00:15.53 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 00:16.04 | Erroneous | if it's not, you can get rid of that too :) |
| 00:18.26 | blast007 | new one |
| 00:18.28 | blast007 | 30579 |
| 00:18.49 | blast007 | MsgWantSettings |
| 00:19.18 | blast007 | I tries it! |
| 00:19.38 | Erroneous | third person |
| 00:19.40 | Erroneous | silly |
| 00:19.43 | blast007 | ;) |
| 00:19.47 | Erroneous | :P |
| 00:20.38 | Erroneous | in any case, "trys" is not a real word :P |
| 00:20.42 | blast007 | we sure send a lot of stuff before MsgEnter, if this is detecting it right |
| 00:22.02 | JeffM2501 | HA, I asked if we should do want settings :) |
| 00:22.19 | blast007 | hehe |
| 00:22.33 | Erroneous | I didn't think we did that until post-world |
| 00:22.44 | Erroneous | hm, still have to be before enter though |
| 00:22.49 | Erroneous | k, I was just stupid |
| 00:22.55 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: and more messages |
| 00:24.56 | blast007 | JeffM2501: works now |
| 00:25.54 | JeffM2501 | whoot |
| 00:26.17 | Erroneous | there are certain other messages that we might possibly send before entry, but only if the server is dumb enough to ask for them |
| 00:26.22 | Erroneous | MsgLagPing, for instance |
| 00:26.46 | Erroneous | we really need a protocol spec :) |
| 00:27.15 | blast007 | spam seems to have stopped though |
| 00:28.59 | Erroneous | less spam is better |
| 00:29.33 | blast007 | well, right ;) |
| 00:29.43 | blast007 | at least we know it blocks |
| 00:29.49 | blast007 | cuz it was blocking the client :) |
| 00:29.53 | Erroneous | hehe |
| 00:34.25 | *** join/#bzflag bryjen (n=bryjen@2002:4cb1:b973:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 00:34.25 | *** mode/#bzflag [+v bryjen] by ChanServ |
| 00:35.49 | JeffM2501 | is he still hitting the other servers? |
| 00:36.01 | blast007 | no |
| 00:36.28 | JeffM2501 | mostly curious if the thing worked |
| 00:36.45 | JeffM2501 | guess we could mod a client to send a message and make sure it gets kicked |
| 00:36.58 | Flash | DTRemenak told me to do a diff -u filename /dev/null for deleted files, but I think that will just result in a 0-lengh file |
| 00:37.36 | *** join/#bzflag Legoguy (n=Legoguy@adsl-70-131-35-112.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:39.01 | Erroneous | try it and find out |
| 00:39.10 | Erroneous | it should give a full deletion diff |
| 00:39.24 | Flash | working on it.... |
| 00:39.27 | Erroneous | echo something > file && diff file /dev/null |
| 00:39.54 | JeffM2501 | should test ibot on a moded server to make sure it still works as well |
| 00:40.23 | Erroneous | Flash: http://pastebin.ca/286942 |
| 00:40.37 | JeffM2501 | and the stats site |
| 00:40.58 | brad | ~bzfquery bzexcess.com |
| 00:41.15 | JeffM2501 | huzzah |
| 00:41.50 | brad | stats site works too |
| 00:41.53 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 00:42.05 | JeffM2501 | I'll mod a client to send a chat message first and make sure I get booted |
| 00:42.26 | Erroneous | someone has tried bzadmin? |
| 00:42.43 | JeffM2501 | blast did |
| 00:42.50 | Erroneous | cool |
| 00:43.15 | Erroneous | ~blast007++ |
| 00:44.30 | *** join/#bzflag TimRiker (n=timr@pdpc/supporter/bronze/TimRiker) |
| 00:44.30 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o TimRiker] by ChanServ |
| 00:45.28 | JeffM2501 | what is the text chat message? |
| 00:46.04 | JeffM2501 | heck I'll send an autopilot message, that should boot me |
| 00:47.05 | JeffM2501 | cool got booted |
| 00:47.38 | *** join/#bzflag Legoguy (n=Legoguy@adsl-75-49-197-70.dsl.emhril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:48.00 | Flash | I'm trying to test my patch, but I'm a patch-cretin |
| 00:48.11 | Flash | it keeps prompting me for the file to patch |
| 00:50.03 | Erroneous | patch -p0 < thisfile |
| 00:50.11 | Flash | thank you |
| 00:52.54 | blast007 | Erroneous: yeah, bzadmin worked even before the full client did :) |
| 00:53.03 | Erroneous | figures :) |
| 00:53.11 | Erroneous | doesn't need the world or flags or anything |
| 00:53.14 | blast007 | yeah |
| 00:53.28 | blast007 | I was mainly worried about the odd ping it does |
| 00:54.52 | *** join/#bzflag bz03 (n=c0ceb4c8@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 00:55.35 | *** join/#bzflag inchworm (n=msimmons@mustang.cs.nmsu.edu) |
| 00:55.58 | brad | he's still going |
| 00:56.13 | brad | diff message now |
| 00:56.17 | JeffM2501 | upgrade your server brad :) |
| 00:56.27 | brad | not mine, tlz.bzflag.org |
| 00:56.36 | JeffM2501 | then tell the owner to :) |
| 00:56.41 | JeffM2501 | I've posted on bzbb about it |
| 00:56.54 | Flash | yay! the diff against /dev/null does delete the file. |
| 00:59.24 | Erroneous | I do love the way we posted simultaneously though :) |
| 00:59.47 | Erroneous | Flash: and you expected? :) |
| 00:59.48 | JeffM2501 | in bugs? |
| 00:59.53 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 01:01.18 | JeffM2501 | if bzbb would actualy work now |
| 01:01.23 | Flash | Erroneous: I anticipated the possibility of a zero-length file. I'm happy that it didn't |
| 01:01.44 | JeffM2501 | how does freenode block tor? |
| 01:02.25 | brad | they use a list of tor servers :P |
| 01:02.36 | JeffM2501 | we have found one |
| 01:02.40 | JeffM2501 | I was hoping for a hostmask |
| 01:02.44 | JeffM2501 | it's a BIG list |
| 01:03.11 | brad | ah |
| 01:03.25 | Erroneous | hostmask would make it kinda pointless |
| 01:03.35 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:03.41 | blast007 | http://belegost.mit.edu/tor/status/authority |
| 01:03.43 | Erroneous | great firewall of china and all |
| 01:04.05 | blast007 | we could periodically parse that list |
| 01:04.19 | *** join/#bzflag NoName (i=42443440@gateway/web/cgi-irc/zeebrothers.net/x-e22c1dff99719214) |
| 01:04.26 | JeffM2501 | wonder how much of tor actualy IS used by the people the authors say they made it for |
| 01:05.09 | blast007 | they should do a survey :) |
| 01:05.16 | brad | lol |
| 01:05.17 | *** join/#bzflag bz28 (n=c0ceb4c8@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 01:05.21 | blast007 | "what do you use Tor for" |
| 01:05.27 | JeffM2501 | or jsut look and see how much of the trafic is warez and torrents |
| 01:05.37 | JeffM2501 | or spam repeats |
| 01:05.40 | blast007 | torrents over tor would suck |
| 01:06.03 | JeffM2501 | "hmm you've sent the SAME packet to 1000 difrent addresses in the last 5 min, maybe your not a dissedent" |
| 01:06.37 | blast007 | well, it's encrypted |
| 01:06.42 | Erroneous | 1. spam 2. kiddie porn 3. warez 4. political dissidence 5. terror cell communication 6. all of the above ;) |
| 01:06.49 | blast007 | heh |
| 01:07.02 | JeffM2501 | terrorist porn! |
| 01:08.11 | [NP]Tangent | terrorist porn |
| 01:08.12 | [NP]Tangent | heh |
| 01:08.22 | [NP]Tangent | reminds me of the brilliant map idea that was just told to me |
| 01:08.27 | [NP]Tangent | bzgoatse |
| 01:08.31 | bryjen | spam selling warez to access terror cell communication hidden in porn images |
| 01:08.44 | blast007 | heh |
| 01:09.12 | Erroneous | hm, I think you're missing the political dissidence there, bryjen :) |
| 01:09.24 | Erroneous | I suppose you could make it dissident porn |
| 01:09.25 | JeffM2501 | just add "in china" |
| 01:09.25 | blast007 | Erroneous: but nobody picks that one anyway |
| 01:09.33 | Erroneous | true enough :) |
| 01:09.40 | bryjen | yup. left out on purpose |
| 01:10.30 | Erroneous | the thing is, nobody who uses tor for political reasons will admit it |
| 01:10.56 | Erroneous | and those who use it for other reasons, would just as soon use the political reasons as an excuse |
| 01:11.01 | Erroneous | so the poll would be totally wrong |
| 01:11.13 | JeffM2501 | if a tor client can know how to get thru the network, could not a guberment just run a tor client and map the network? |
| 01:11.32 | Erroneous | you don't know how to get through the network, iirc |
| 01:11.33 | JeffM2501 | then dynamicly ban that network |
| 01:11.37 | Erroneous | you only know the next step |
| 01:11.41 | blast007 | JeffM2501: it's probably more like "I know how to get to my neighbor" |
| 01:11.45 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 01:11.46 | JeffM2501 | still hsa to be an entry point |
| 01:11.52 | JeffM2501 | how do you get the list of entry points? |
| 01:12.05 | a_meteorite | can you guys ban tor? I can't imagine it being useful for anything but this... :\ |
| 01:12.06 | blast007 | those are probably the main tor servers |
| 01:12.11 | JeffM2501 | just block those |
| 01:12.12 | Erroneous | they're advertised |
| 01:12.21 | Erroneous | banning entry doesn't do much good |
| 01:12.27 | Erroneous | you need to ban exit nodes |
| 01:12.31 | blast007 | a_meteorite: there's over 1000 exit nodes, some/many of which are probably dynamic |
| 01:12.38 | a_meteorite | blast007: :o |
| 01:12.58 | a_meteorite | well, you could update the list... |
| 01:13.06 | JeffM2501 | still you could send out a ton of requets thru the network to www.whatismyIp.com and get a deccent map :) |
| 01:13.28 | blast007 | JeffM2501: you can already get the list of exit nodes |
| 01:13.30 | JeffM2501 | just have your firewall use that list and keep it running |
| 01:13.33 | blast007 | the thing you can't get is the path it takes |
| 01:13.33 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 01:13.44 | JeffM2501 | if you have the exit nodes isn't that enough? |
| 01:13.49 | blast007 | yeah |
| 01:13.54 | Erroneous | exit nodes are pretty easy to map, and to ban |
| 01:13.57 | blast007 | that was the link I posted above |
| 01:14.05 | blast007 | http://belegost.mit.edu/tor/status/authority |
| 01:14.46 | blast007 | example of the one that Thumper_ posted earlier: |
| 01:14.48 | blast007 | r lksfhgldfgd NjkDYT1az6UsmtlNdBKkATO0G6c 68AXZhIUGrtHh67GTzLf1kVRAWQ 2006-12-20 09:21:11 24.48.198.156 9001 0 |
| 01:14.48 | JeffM2501 | if the goverment blocked the advertiesed input nodes, then would that not prevent packets from geting outside the country? |
| 01:14.51 | blast007 | s Exit Fast Running Valid |
| 01:14.56 | Erroneous | no |
| 01:15.00 | Erroneous | yoiu can use silent tunnels |
| 01:15.06 | JeffM2501 | heck is that? |
| 01:15.20 | blast007 | they put up a "SHHHH!!!" sign, cuz of the echo |
| 01:15.22 | Erroneous | secret entry node, tunneling to an out-of-country mid node |
| 01:15.34 | JeffM2501 | ahh so your entry is inside |
| 01:15.37 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 01:15.49 | JeffM2501 | well then you find that guy and shoot him :0 |
| 01:15.56 | blast007 | hehe |
| 01:15.59 | bryjen | ~shoot JeffM2501 |
| 01:16.02 | ibot | ACTION shoots JeffM2501 in the foot with a phase pistol! |
| 01:16.04 | Erroneous | the idea is to make it hard to find that guy :) |
| 01:16.08 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:16.18 | Erroneous | that's the part of tor you can't easily map |
| 01:16.37 | Erroneous | exit nodes are easy to map, just set up a server and send a ton of requests to it, and see who they come from |
| 01:16.46 | JeffM2501 | they should have protocoll locked it to HTTP and mail |
| 01:17.09 | JeffM2501 | ok so it'd be decently easy for us to say block tor users to our server |
| 01:17.15 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 01:17.17 | JeffM2501 | but hard for a country to keep them out |
| 01:17.21 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 01:17.41 | Erroneous | that's why tor doesn't get used for widescale abuses much. freenode is an exception, because they are tor-friendly |
| 01:17.41 | JeffM2501 | be nice if the tor site published that list |
| 01:18.01 | blast007 | JeffM2501: exit nodes? |
| 01:18.04 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:18.14 | blast007 | they do |
| 01:18.24 | JeffM2501 | ahh, thought that was just some guy |
| 01:18.39 | JeffM2501 | hook that crap up into the list server then :0 |
| 01:18.49 | blast007 | tor site links there |
| 01:18.57 | Erroneous | doesn't do any good at the list server |
| 01:19.03 | Erroneous | would need to have each server scan the list |
| 01:19.04 | JeffM2501 | makes me feel better :) |
| 01:19.27 | JeffM2501 | hmm could do a plugin that did it |
| 01:19.32 | blast007 | Erroneous: tor-masterban.txt ;) |
| 01:19.33 | JeffM2501 | anti-tor |
| 01:19.35 | Erroneous | or we could autoimport them for masterban, but that's kinda hard on the kind souls who actually run exit nodes :) |
| 01:20.07 | Erroneous | or, we could do what freenode does, and assign tor its own pseudohostmask |
| 01:20.18 | blast007 | yeah |
| 01:20.19 | Erroneous | so if we get problems coming from tor, people can tempban it |
| 01:20.23 | JeffM2501 | how do you compute that? |
| 01:20.49 | Erroneous | if ip x is in the tor list, assign it hostmask "tor.ip..." |
| 01:21.00 | Erroneous | then you can ban by tor.* |
| 01:21.26 | JeffM2501 | ahh |
| 01:21.34 | a_meteorite | wtf.. someone is on a speaker phone outside talking :o |
| 01:21.35 | JeffM2501 | well I could make a plugin that did that and just booted them |
| 01:21.41 | JeffM2501 | and it has an on/off mode |
| 01:21.43 | a_meteorite | introducing his family, ROFL! |
| 01:22.01 | JeffM2501 | then if they wanted the ability to ban it they could just install the plugin |
| 01:22.07 | Erroneous | yeah, could do that |
| 01:22.12 | JeffM2501 | be more opt in |
| 01:22.16 | Erroneous | yeah |
| 01:22.34 | JeffM2501 | have it poll the list on startup and like every couple hours or so |
| 01:22.41 | Erroneous | yup |
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| 01:34.21 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: log out the distances during movement checks, NOT the unset speeds |
| 01:34.53 | *** join/#bzflag L4m3r (n=l4m3r@pool-71-118-51-14.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 01:36.48 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: only dist check alive people |
| 01:37.09 | a_meteorite | is cvs instantaneous for updating? |
| 01:37.17 | JeffM2501 | probably prety close to it |
| 01:37.21 | a_meteorite | cool |
| 01:37.45 | a_meteorite | maybe that'll fix the problem where everyone gets fixed for moving too fast |
| 01:37.55 | a_meteorite | that's the most annoying thing in v2_0branch :) |
| 01:38.02 | a_meteorite | *kicked for |
| 01:38.06 | JeffM2501 | from how old code? |
| 01:38.12 | a_meteorite | a week |
| 01:38.15 | a_meteorite | give or take |
| 01:38.23 | JeffM2501 | it happen on spawn? |
| 01:38.27 | a_meteorite | yes |
| 01:38.28 | JeffM2501 | or just when moving? |
| 01:38.30 | JeffM2501 | hmm |
| 01:38.38 | a_meteorite | just spawn |
| 01:38.44 | JeffM2501 | all the time? or sometimes? |
| 01:38.56 | a_meteorite | sometimes |
| 01:39.05 | a_meteorite | it seems to be more frequent when you're auto pilot |
| 01:39.16 | a_meteorite | but if you spawn really quickly after dying... that also seems to trigger it |
| 01:39.47 | JeffM2501 | hmmm |
| 01:39.47 | JeffM2501 | spawn should set your postion |
| 01:40.36 | a_meteorite | I've never been able to reproduce it, but it started happening in cvs (not 2.0.8) |
| 01:40.46 | JeffM2501 | yeah that is when I added the distance check |
| 01:40.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzfs/bzfs.cxx: add a fudge for minimum time delta. |
| 01:40.55 | JeffM2501 | to get people who mod there spwans |
| 01:41.13 | JeffM2501 | that should prevent small update time errors |
| 01:41.13 | a_meteorite | it's just one of those "maybe" things |
| 01:41.15 | a_meteorite | happens more times in some scenarios than others :) |
| 01:41.21 | a_meteorite | ok |
| 01:41.33 | JeffM2501 | let me know if it still happens with the alive check |
| 01:41.44 | a_meteorite | kk |
| 01:42.10 | JeffM2501 | tho the spawn should just flat out SET the last known pos, and you can't send an update to be kicked on untill after that happens |
| 01:46.29 | blast007 | JeffM2501: still kicked |
| 01:46.32 | blast007 | Kicking Player Argooon [1] tank too large a movement update (tank: 470.549072, allowed: 25.020056) |
| 01:46.35 | blast007 | Player Argooon [1] removed at 2006-12-20 19:48:26: too fast |
| 01:46.44 | a_meteorite | oi, so I shouldn't use this cvs? |
| 01:46.44 | JeffM2501 | WOW |
| 01:46.54 | blast007 | that was autopilot again |
| 01:47.00 | a_meteorite | hehe, auto again |
| 01:47.08 | JeffM2501 | autopilot ignore the spawn? |
| 01:47.24 | blast007 | not sure |
| 01:47.41 | JeffM2501 | we know if it's a bot right? |
| 01:47.45 | blast007 | I think it just sets the speed of the tank, and controls jumping |
| 01:48.05 | blast007 | it should operate any different than what a regular person can do |
| 01:48.05 | JeffM2501 | well I can make it do a count |
| 01:48.42 | blast007 | it's probably because it comes out of the spawn already full speed ahead |
| 01:48.57 | blast007 | and sends the spawns as soon as it is fully dead |
| 01:49.25 | JeffM2501 | is his first update NOT at the spawn position? |
| 01:49.37 | JeffM2501 | cus it uses the max speed and the time between updates |
| 01:49.38 | blast007 | might also be my low frame rate, cuz I'm running the client over RDP :/ |
| 01:50.01 | JeffM2501 | lag only increases the distance he can travel before being kicked |
| 01:50.09 | JeffM2501 | as it's the time between updates on the server |
| 01:50.23 | *** join/#bzflag thompa (n=thom@c-69-180-208-122.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 01:50.44 | thompa | hello, how do i register a call sign |
| 01:50.52 | blast007 | http://my.bzflag.org/bb/ |
| 01:51.05 | blast007 | forum registration system is shared with the game |
| 01:51.27 | thompa | ok , i think i undestand |
| 01:51.49 | thompa | it says on free for all , registered users get to use /say command |
| 01:52.08 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/chathistory/chathistory.cpp: no distance checks for autopilots ( for now ) |
| 01:52.16 | blast007 | once you register at that site, and activate the account, you can use the forum username and password for the "callsign" and "password" boxes in the Join Menu of the game |
| 01:52.18 | JeffM2501 | there THAT should do it :) |
| 01:52.28 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/ (bzflag/playing.cxx bzfs/bzfs.cxx): no distance checks for autopilots ( for now ) |
| 01:52.31 | thompa | blast007: ok thanks. |
| 01:52.37 | JeffM2501 | aww soonofa!!!! |
| 01:52.42 | blast007 | thompa: no problem |
| 01:52.58 | blast007 | JeffM2501: chathistory? ;) |
| 01:53.02 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 01:53.03 | JeffM2501 | and palying |
| 01:53.05 | JeffM2501 | one sec |
| 01:53.13 | blast007 | hehe |
| 01:54.01 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: oops |
| 01:54.44 | JeffM2501 | chatihistory change is fine |
| 01:54.51 | JeffM2501 | just a difent way of doing things |
| 01:55.58 | blast007 | k |
| 01:56.22 | JeffM2501 | the playing.cxx one.. that was a kicker :) |
| 01:56.29 | JeffM2501 | that would make everyone get kicked :) |
| 01:58.30 | blast007 | :) |
| 01:58.37 | DTRemenak | heh, committing cheats now, eh? :) |
| 01:58.43 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 01:59.07 | JeffM2501 | it just sent an autopilot message |
| 01:59.08 | blast007 | *cough*wings*cough* |
| 01:59.09 | JeffM2501 | no cheats |
| 01:59.15 | DTRemenak | ahh |
| 02:00.11 | [NP]Tangent | Jeff's a cheater! |
| 02:00.16 | [NP]Tangent | he's making a cheater out of all of us! |
| 02:00.22 | [NP]Tangent | oh teh noes! |
| 02:00.26 | DTRemenak | heh |
| 02:00.31 | *** kick/#bzflag [[NP]Tangent!n=JeffM@pdpc/supporter/sustaining/JeffM2501] by JeffM2501 (JeffM2501) |
| 02:00.31 | *** join/#bzflag [NP]Tangent (n=hyperdev@71-212-209-112.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 02:00.33 | JeffM2501 | :) |
| 02:00.41 | blast007 | heh |
| 02:00.43 | DTRemenak | ooh, autorejoin |
| 02:00.46 | [NP]Tangent | uh oh |
| 02:00.50 | [NP]Tangent | that's not good |
| 02:01.16 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o DTRemenak] by ChanServ |
| 02:01.21 | [NP]Tangent | ... |
| 02:01.28 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 02:01.30 | DTRemenak | autorejoin...it's like playing ping-pong! :) |
| 02:01.33 | [NP]Tangent | ... |
| 02:01.35 | blast007 | lol |
| 02:01.52 | blast007 | awww |
| 02:02.00 | [NP]Tangent | good |
| 02:02.08 | [NP]Tangent | cuz I have no clue how to turn autorejoin off in this stupid client |
| 02:02.11 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o blast007] by DTRemenak |
| 02:02.21 | blast007 | :) |
| 02:02.41 | Theme97 | XChat has autorejoin? |
| 02:02.46 | spldart | the problem people on servers tonight... what names are they using? |
| 02:02.50 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:02.56 | a_meteorite | there are no names |
| 02:02.57 | a_meteorite | it' |
| 02:02.58 | blast007 | spldart: the spam? |
| 02:03.01 | a_meteorite | it's unknown |
| 02:03.03 | Theme97 | I made my own python autorejoin! |
| 02:03.03 | DTRemenak | mostly (unknown) |
| 02:03.06 | spldart | ah |
| 02:03.16 | JeffM2501 | the message is sent before they send the username |
| 02:03.17 | DTRemenak | Theme97: want me to test it for ya? ;) |
| 02:03.23 | Theme97 | Sure! |
| 02:03.33 | *** kick/#bzflag [Theme97!i=DTRemena@about/essy/CrazyCoder/DTRemenak] by DTRemenak (you asked for it!) |
| 02:03.34 | *** join/#bzflag Theme97 (n=Theme97@about/essy/phpwriter/Theme97) |
| 02:03.42 | JeffM2501 | spldart, just update your servers to cvs, and it'l autokick em and not send the message |
| 02:03.47 | Theme97 | No, you asked. |
| 02:03.55 | DTRemenak | hmm, good point :) |
| 02:03.55 | a_meteorite | pin the tail on the donkey! |
| 02:04.08 | *** kick/#bzflag [blast007!i=blast@pdpc/supporter/active/blast007] by blast007 (Ow my spleen) |
| 02:04.09 | *** join/#bzflag blast007 (i=blast@pdpc/supporter/active/blast007) |
| 02:04.18 | spldart | so my 2.0.9 source and 2.1.whateva 0045 proto get cvs up -dP or some such thing? |
| 02:04.19 | *** mode/#bzflag [-o DTRemenak] by DTRemenak |
| 02:04.26 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o DTRemenak] by JeffM2501 |
| 02:04.32 | blast007 | spldart: the mod hasn't been done to 2.1 |
| 02:04.35 | blast007 | only 2.0.x |
| 02:04.38 | DTRemenak | eek |
| 02:04.38 | spldart | okies |
| 02:04.43 | JeffM2501 | he hasn't hit 2.1 |
| 02:04.51 | JeffM2501 | and if he did, what would be the point? |
| 02:04.55 | spldart | is it cvs up -dP? Have I got that right? |
| 02:05.04 | DTRemenak | s/up/update/ |
| 02:05.09 | blast007 | JeffM2501: if a tree falls in a forest.... |
| 02:05.16 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 02:05.17 | spldart | I had a couple players playing on my 2.1 and it looks like jibberish goin back and forth at first... |
| 02:05.20 | DTRemenak | ...and nobody is around... |
| 02:05.30 | blast007 | ....does it make a sound? |
| 02:05.41 | spldart | thanks dtr |
| 02:05.48 | DTRemenak | np |
| 02:05.49 | blast007 | I mean, we know it does, but still...what a deep question...hmmmm |
| 02:06.02 | DTRemenak | how do we know? |
| 02:06.12 | blast007 | physics |
| 02:06.33 | DTRemenak | physics is just a lot of really well educated guesses :) |
| 02:06.42 | DTRemenak | we could be wrong about that particular tree :) |
| 02:06.59 | blast007 | yeah, they guessed pretty good about gravity, after their first several failed attempts |
| 02:07.34 | blast007 | "This belongs on the ground, and it is therefore attracted to the ground" |
| 02:07.53 | DTRemenak | still didn't get it quite right, einstien had to come up with field equations |
| 02:07.59 | spldart | All objects desire to return to the earth from which they came |
| 02:08.02 | spldart | heh |
| 02:08.15 | JeffM2501 | what about the things that didn't come from the earth? |
| 02:08.18 | blast007 | my moon rocks keep trying to get back |
| 02:08.28 | spldart | They came from the gods |
| 02:08.29 | blast007 | so I tied them down |
| 02:08.37 | spldart | zues was PO'd |
| 02:08.49 | spldart | Apolla had some bad gas |
| 02:09.05 | spldart | Athena was on the.... :-x |
| 02:09.10 | a_meteorite | ...? |
| 02:09.19 | DTRemenak | ! |
| 02:11.43 | *** join/#bzflag Pogovina (n=Splwife@cpe-24-28-107-184.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 02:12.03 | Pogovina | spldart, stop corrupting my poor little a_meteorite!!!! |
| 02:12.09 | spldart | :-x |
| 02:12.20 | blast007 | hehe |
| 02:12.20 | Pogovina | that was awful, you!!! |
| 02:12.22 | a_meteorite | it went right over my head anyways |
| 02:12.28 | Pogovina | hi blast007 |
| 02:12.31 | spldart | I guess that's a good thing |
| 02:12.34 | blast007 | hi Pogovina |
| 02:12.35 | Pogovina | good, it was icky |
| 02:12.37 | spldart | It was bad... I'm bad |
| 02:12.38 | spldart | sorry |
| 02:12.39 | a_meteorite | I don't know what Athena is beyond she was a greek god... |
| 02:12.48 | Pogovina | naughty spldart. no cookie for you |
| 02:13.19 | Pogovina | she was apparently experiencing a certain time of the month as well.... *squints at spldart* |
| 02:13.30 | DTRemenak | heh, splwife |
| 02:13.37 | Pogovina | :) |
| 02:13.43 | Pogovina | oh my |
| 02:13.52 | DTRemenak | louder than the dart? :) |
| 02:13.58 | a_meteorite | the dart? |
| 02:14.03 | spldart | Nothing was louder than spldart |
| 02:14.08 | Pogovina | yes, louder than the dart. |
| 02:14.11 | spldart | 163.8 db C weighted |
| 02:14.22 | Pogovina | i am louder. |
| 02:14.25 | Pogovina | ... |
| 02:14.36 | DTRemenak | a_meteorite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_pressure_level http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dodge_Dart |
| 02:14.46 | [NP]Tangent | oh yeah, a_meteorite is the one with the overprotective family, isn't he? |
| 02:14.51 | DTRemenak | thus spldart :) |
| 02:14.58 | a_meteorite | uh yeah |
| 02:15.04 | a_meteorite | the baby of the bzflaggers |
| 02:15.09 | [NP]Tangent | no way |
| 02:15.11 | DTRemenak | and the corresponding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_pressure_level http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wife |
| 02:15.13 | [NP]Tangent | you're no baby |
| 02:15.22 | [NP]Tangent | have you even seen laserball2 on a server yet? |
| 02:15.28 | [NP]Tangent | that guy whines like none other |
| 02:15.30 | a_meteorite | in knowledge of certain things, yes ;) |
| 02:15.33 | [NP]Tangent | at least you are cool |
| 02:15.33 | blast007 | [NP]Tangent: I think he was on mine |
| 02:15.34 | a_meteorite | ROFL |
| 02:15.42 | a_meteorite | that guy is annoying as heck |
| 02:15.45 | [NP]Tangent | blast007, he always asks for @, doesn't he? |
| 02:15.47 | JeffM2501 | yay, one tor list parser :) |
| 02:15.59 | DTRemenak | well that didn't take long! :) |
| 02:16.03 | blast007 | JeffM2501: heh |
| 02:16.06 | a_meteorite | even on the forums, I want to kill him |
| 02:16.11 | a_meteorite | "omg you idiot" ;) |
| 02:16.12 | Pogovina | ok, i just wanted to come in and protect what was left of a_meteorites innocence :p |
| 02:16.13 | JeffM2501 | hey I'm "workin" |
| 02:16.16 | [NP]Tangent | a_meteorite, he showed up on my server again today |
| 02:16.23 | [NP]Tangent | asked to be cop |
| 02:16.26 | [NP]Tangent | I said no and he left |
| 02:16.29 | spldart | Mine was a dart sport... fastback body |
| 02:16.31 | Pogovina | bye guys :) o/ |
| 02:16.45 | a_meteorite | bye, thanks Pogovina :D |
| 02:16.50 | DTRemenak | heh, workin' :) regressions look good? |
| 02:16.51 | Pogovina | no problem |
| 02:16.52 | blast007 | [NP]Tangent: I'll just add him to something |
| 02:16.56 | blast007 | [NP]Tangent: "iptables" |
| 02:17.08 | [NP]Tangent | are laserball2 and lasermaster at all related? |
| 02:17.08 | DTRemenak | ~pogovina++ |
| 02:17.13 | [NP]Tangent | because they are both as stupid |
| 02:17.27 | spldart | ~pogovina++ |
| 02:17.56 | Pogovina | ~spldart++ |
| 02:18.01 | Pogovina | ai'nt love grand |
| 02:18.11 | [NP]Tangent | I wouldn't know |
| 02:18.16 | Pogovina | awww |
| 02:18.27 | *** part/#bzflag Pogovina (n=Splwife@cpe-24-28-107-184.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 02:18.27 | [NP]Tangent | a_meteorite's probably had more luck with the wimmenz than the Tangent has |
| 02:18.37 | Theme97 | No, no, that's me. |
| 02:18.37 | [NP]Tangent | DTR, first you want to play pong with me, then you hug me |
| 02:18.39 | [NP]Tangent | I don't get you |
| 02:18.41 | a_meteorite | [NP]Tangent: are you KIDDING?! |
| 02:18.54 | [NP]Tangent | DTRemenak, no |
| 02:19.00 | [NP]Tangent | [Null] maybe |
| 02:19.02 | [NP]Tangent | but not [P] |
| 02:19.12 | a_meteorite | never had a GF, or kissed a girl, or any of that |
| 02:19.20 | [NP]Tangent | oh alright |
| 02:19.27 | [NP]Tangent | I'm ever so slightly further than you |
| 02:19.32 | [NP]Tangent | but not by much |
| 02:19.35 | Theme97 | How much is "ever so slightly"? |
| 02:19.44 | a_meteorite | in that area, I'm way behind everyone. I can bet on it. |
| 02:19.55 | [NP]Tangent | look at a penny compared to the empire state building |
| 02:19.59 | [NP]Tangent | kinda like that |
| 02:20.20 | Theme97 | But I have nothing to compare to. |
| 02:20.28 | Theme97 | I do beat a_meteorite by a landslide though. |
| 02:20.34 | Theme97 | A very tiny landslide... |
| 02:20.38 | a_meteorite | :\ |
| 02:20.42 | [NP]Tangent | a sandbox landslide? |
| 02:20.49 | Theme97 | I think so. |
| 02:22.19 | [NP]Tangent | at least a_meteorite has boxy war |
| 02:22.27 | Theme97 | You just wait for Abilities! |
| 02:22.28 | Theme97 | >:( |
| 02:22.31 | a_meteorite | it's dying a subtle death |
| 02:22.52 | JeffM2501 | blast007, did that last fix change anything? |
| 02:22.54 | DTRemenak | [NP]Tangent: most CS people would be rather surprised to discover that [P]Tangent != [NP]Tangent :) |
| 02:23.29 | blast007 | JeffM2501: works now |
| 02:23.51 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 02:27.09 | *** join/#bzflag biPOLEer (n=tanstaaf@pool-70-109-58-132.clppva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:27.23 | JeffM2501 | wonder how to test this thing :) |
| 02:27.35 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 02:27.37 | JeffM2501 | DTRemenak, if I add a plugin where do I have to add it in the makefiles |
| 02:27.50 | a_meteorite | plugins/Makefile.am and configure.ac |
| 02:27.54 | JeffM2501 | for 2.0? |
| 02:28.03 | a_meteorite | yeah |
| 02:28.04 | DTRemenak | beats me, in 2.0 |
| 02:28.12 | DTRemenak | in 2.1 a_meteorite is correct |
| 02:28.13 | a_meteorite | I do it way too often :) |
| 02:28.23 | a_meteorite | DTRemenak: I only know about 2.0 |
| 02:28.56 | blast007 | JeffM2501: look at the end of the newplugin.sh |
| 02:29.05 | blast007 | should say the two files to add it to, for 2.0 |
| 02:29.12 | blast007 | 2.1 adds it automatically |
| 02:29.17 | blast007 | (with that script) |
| 02:30.54 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/ (8 files in 3 dirs): experimental plugin to block tor users from a server |
| 02:31.10 | JeffM2501 | totaly untested |
| 02:31.47 | a_meteorite | lol, how are we going to test it? |
| 02:31.55 | JeffM2501 | run it and see |
| 02:32.05 | JeffM2501 | I could make it list the IPs to make sure the parser works |
| 02:32.05 | blast007 | I'll find a way to test it :) |
| 02:32.23 | JeffM2501 | it's set to update once an hour |
| 02:32.58 | a_meteorite | agh, merge conflicts |
| 02:33.00 | *** part/#bzflag biPOLEer (n=tanstaaf@pool-70-109-58-132.clppva.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:33.59 | *** join/#bzflag Me (n=3a6d0295@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 02:34.55 | a_meteorite | does bzfs have async functions for getting http requests in plugins? |
| 02:34.55 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 02:34.56 | a_meteorite | hmmm |
| 02:34.56 | JeffM2501 | this one uses it |
| 02:34.59 | a_meteorite | ah |
| 02:35.08 | a_meteorite | cause on masterban, if it can't be reached, it'll tie the server up |
| 02:35.19 | a_meteorite | I was just thinking cause that list was HUGE |
| 02:35.38 | blast007 | JeffM2501: does that only work if curl is built with ares support? |
| 02:35.52 | JeffM2501 | the URL lookup may stall if it wasn't |
| 02:36.00 | JeffM2501 | but the rest of the URL job will async |
| 02:36.02 | blast007 | hmm, k |
| 02:36.08 | blast007 | not sure if my curl is ;) |
| 02:36.08 | *** join/#bzflag Me (n=3a6d0295@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 02:36.12 | JeffM2501 | the DNS I mean |
| 02:36.19 | blast007 | it's from debian's packages |
| 02:36.20 | JeffM2501 | once curl has the IP it'll async the transfer |
| 02:36.26 | blast007 | yeah |
| 02:36.36 | JeffM2501 | put the IP in your local DNS :) |
| 02:36.44 | a_meteorite | bad JeffM2501 :) |
| 02:36.48 | a_meteorite | torBlock.cpp:251: warning: enumeration value `bz_eCaptureEvent' not handled in |
| 02:36.49 | a_meteorite | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:36.49 | a_meteorite | torBlock.cpp:251: warning: enumeration value `bz_ePlayerDieEvent' not handled |
| 02:36.49 | a_meteorite | plus a ton more |
| 02:37.18 | JeffM2501 | huh? |
| 02:37.29 | a_meteorite | warnings for torBlock plugin |
| 02:37.42 | JeffM2501 | oh warnings |
| 02:37.43 | JeffM2501 | bahh |
| 02:37.50 | a_meteorite | usually bz is pretty warning-less :) |
| 02:38.52 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/torBlock/torBlock.cpp: warning quell |
| 02:43.46 | *** join/#bzflag ruskie (n=ruskie@sourcemage/mage/ruskie) |
| 02:44.01 | *** join/#bzflag A-Delusion (n=A-Delusi@pool-151-201-122-253.pitt.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:44.07 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/torBlock/torBlock.cpp: use /torlist to list the parsed banable IPs |
| 02:44.33 | JeffM2501 | tho that may make /torlist a way to lagkick yourself :) |
| 02:44.52 | a_meteorite | hehe |
| 02:44.55 | *** join/#bzflag Alec (n=46f27d7b@bz.bzflag.bz) |
| 02:45.07 | blast007 | or lag kick everyone |
| 02:45.13 | JeffM2501 | if its' too big |
| 02:45.25 | JeffM2501 | it's just a vector scan, so it won't be too slow |
| 02:53.16 | *** join/#bzflag ibot (i=ibot@pdpc/supporter/active/TimRiker/bot/apt) |
| 02:53.16 | *** topic/#bzflag is http://BZFlag.org || http://cia.navi.cx/stats/project/BZFlag || http://BZFlag.org/wiki/GettingHelp || paste to http://bzflag.pastebin.ca || CVS HEAD is 2.1 and for all new commits || http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/9453 |
| 02:53.16 | *** mode/#bzflag [+o ibot] by ChanServ |
| 02:53.17 | blast007 | let me try that |
| 02:53.25 | JeffM2501 | you need the d to get new dirs |
| 02:53.51 | blast007 | ah |
| 02:54.10 | blast007 | I guess that's the reason I like a GUI :) |
| 02:55.01 | a_meteorite | I use the command-line for everything now a days.. |
| 02:57.13 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/torBlock/torBlock.cpp: handle URL data that comes back in more then one chunk |
| 03:07.03 | JeffM2501 | hmm it never finishes parsing the URL on mine |
| 03:08.07 | JeffM2501 | that's cus I'm STUPID |
| 03:08.23 | a_meteorite | hehe, it crashed mine :D |
| 03:09.29 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 03:09.34 | JeffM2501 | copy/paste error |
| 03:09.44 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/torBlock/torBlock.cpp: parse the line, not the file again. |
| 03:10.40 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/plugins/torBlock/torBlock.cpp: get the URL every hour, not every min. |
| 03:11.10 | JeffM2501 | wel that does look like it parses the IPs |
| 03:17.48 | JeffM2501 | I can't belive I got the parser right on the first shot :) |
| 03:17.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/platform/WinDisplay.cxx: super cheap hack to prevent the window from minimising when the client loses focus. add set Win32NoMin 1 to the config to enable. helps with debugin |
| 03:22.06 | *** join/#bzflag daniel_jackson (n=prolix@cpe-66-74-196-54.san.res.rr.com) |
| 03:26.27 | PuMpErNiCkEl | ^_^ |
| 03:26.37 | blast007 | does it involve a star gate? |
| 03:26.42 | JeffM2501 | no |
| 03:26.54 | blast007 | aww |
| 03:26.57 | JeffM2501 | have the plugin randomly generate your name when you join |
| 03:27.03 | JeffM2501 | or when it's sent to others |
| 03:30.15 | blast007 | that's not that evil |
| 03:30.28 | JeffM2501 | depends on what the names are :) |
| 03:30.32 | blast007 | heh |
| 03:31.15 | blast007 | it'd be more fun to make everyone else appear to be an admin |
| 03:32.52 | blast007 | or rotate all of the tank positions by 180 degrees before sending them out |
| 03:32.59 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 03:33.23 | blast007 | man, now I have my idea for April 1 |
| 03:43.50 | a_meteorite | hmmm, can we change a person's e-mail string when they join? :D |
| 03:45.37 | brad | JeffM2501: can F4 still be used to minimize? |
| 03:45.45 | JeffM2501 | dunno |
| 03:46.05 | JeffM2501 | yeah, but then it won't ever come back :) |
| 03:46.12 | brad | heh |
| 03:46.15 | brad | great |
| 03:46.24 | JeffM2501 | it's only usefull for developers |
| 03:46.36 | JeffM2501 | sucks to have it minimise when it hits a breakpoint |
| 03:46.47 | brad | I see |
| 03:56.29 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 07v2_0branch * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/clientCommands.cxx: don't iconify if we are not minimising. |
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| 04:34.13 | DTRemenak | heh... "jeffm2501 v2_0branch * bzflag/plugins/torBlock/torBlock.cpp: parse the line, not the file again." "<JeffM2501> I can't belive I got the parser right on the first shot :)"...looks to me like it was not the first shot :D |
| 04:34.25 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 04:34.30 | JeffM2501 | true |
| 04:34.42 | JeffM2501 | it would have been right if I had passed in the right string |
| 04:34.42 | DTRemenak | close though :) |
| 04:34.50 | DTRemenak | ahh |
| 04:35.12 | JeffM2501 | had a string for the line and one for the file, I passed the file in again |
| 04:35.26 | DTRemenak | not quite the same |
| 04:35.33 | JeffM2501 | no, not realy |
| 04:35.38 | JeffM2501 | once it had the line, all was well |
| 04:35.47 | DTRemenak | impressive |
| 04:36.18 | JeffM2501 | it's simple space delims :) |
| 04:36.32 | JeffM2501 | and fixed fields so not exactly hard |
| 04:36.40 | JeffM2501 | blast007 did you get a chance to test it? |
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| 05:28.04 | Flash | I'm ready to start documenting the communications protocol. Anyone want to point me to the appropriate class(es)? |
| 05:28.19 | DTRemenak | net stuff is all procedural C |
| 05:28.43 | DTRemenak | mostly in bzfs.cxx and bzflag/serverLink.cxx |
| 05:28.49 | Flash | thanks |
| 05:28.54 | DTRemenak | some in playing.cxx |
| 05:41.42 | brlcad | sort of "everywhere".. look for calls to pack() and nboPack*() calls |
| 05:42.12 | brlcad | the bulk of the actual message handling kicks off from bzfs.cxx though |
| 05:42.41 | Flash | wouldn't is make sense to modularize it more? |
| 05:43.10 | brlcad | of course |
| 05:45.44 | brlcad | it's a matter of converting a rather large base of code that fundamentally affects the game implementation logic from being distributed and procedural C-based production code that has lots of caveats, globals, and other complications |
| 05:45.58 | brlcad | to being one more modular, clean interface, encapsulated classes, etc |
| 05:46.21 | brlcad | it's somewhere in between, though still leaning towards it's initial implementation roots |
| 05:46.51 | brlcad | there are several classes that now assist related to the protocol, the serverlink class, the nethandler, couple others |
| 05:48.27 | brlcad | the actual data management however, is very much tied to the actual game logic so changing it is a little more precarious and can easily screw with performance and break game behavior in rather undesired ways |
| 05:49.20 | brlcad | the actual "protocol" is independent of the actual implementation -- the implementation might be messy, but the protocol itself isn't too complicated |
| 05:50.16 | uso | is there a limit how many tokens a user can get within a certain time from the listserver? |
| 05:50.23 | uso | or a minimum time gap? |
| 05:50.59 | brlcad | responsiveness of the server itself to handle more than a given rate |
| 05:51.33 | uso | frequency is not that high :) |
| 05:51.56 | uso | i have tried with a delay of 2 and 3 seconds |
| 05:52.35 | uso | 1 or 2 of 8 tries the user was authenticated, the rest not :( |
| 05:53.14 | brlcad | hm, the web server is responding quickly enough |
| 05:53.35 | uso | that's why my question about the tokens |
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| 05:56.16 | Flash | #join ##essy |
| 05:57.18 | uso | oh, even worse, i get one TOKGOOD and the other times TOKBAD |
| 06:03.21 | brlcad | yeah, I looked, there's no explicit delay or limiter |
| 06:04.04 | uso | yes, looks like i always get a token, but most of them are not valid |
| 06:10.04 | uso | could it be that only the last token is valid if more than one token is "open" for a user? |
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| 06:38.18 | a_meteorite | ~bz20cvs |
| 06:38.25 | ibot | cvs -d :pserver:anonymous@cvs.bzflag.org:/cvsroot/bzflag co -P -r v2_0branch bzflag |
| 06:43.57 | Flash | Can anyone tell me why the Address class has a vector of inAddr as a member? I can't see anywhere that is uses more than one address |
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| 06:48.06 | Flash | Can anyone tell me why the Address class has a vector of inAddr as a member? I can't see anywhere that is uses more than one address |
| 06:51.25 | brlcad | the latter is probably more of a problem |
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| 06:56.23 | brlcad | since hostnames can have multiple IP addresses, it shouldn't assume just one and should probably eventually have the support added to actually handle multiple |
| 06:56.44 | BinarySpike | Did you see what I just typed? |
| 06:59.19 | BinarySpike | I am trying to enable plugins using ./configure --enable-static --enable-shared |
| 06:59.40 | BinarySpike | but the /loadplugin command isn't showing up normally... *wonders if it's 2.0.9* |
| 07:00.50 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 07:01.11 | a_meteorite | --enable-static and --enable-shared conflict |
| 07:01.28 | a_meteorite | they mean the exact opposite of each other :P |
| 07:01.34 | brlcad | no they don't, at least they're not supposed to |
| 07:01.39 | a_meteorite | oh? |
| 07:01.47 | a_meteorite | well, that's how I thought of them |
| 07:01.58 | a_meteorite | I always use --enable-shared and --enable-plugins on all my builds |
| 07:02.01 | a_meteorite | works everytime |
| 07:02.45 | brlcad | that is probably the issue, in that enabling static (only in the 2.0 branch) specifically disables the plugins |
| 07:03.00 | brlcad | but that's more a side effect issue |
| 07:03.10 | BinarySpike | so I do need to use --enable-plugin *slaps forehead* |
| 07:03.19 | a_meteorite | --enable-pluginS |
| 07:03.25 | brlcad | it's fixed in cvs head iirc, so that they both can work correctly |
| 07:03.36 | a_meteorite | plus, why do you want to do static? curious.. |
| 07:03.45 | BinarySpike | I have no clue |
| 07:03.49 | a_meteorite | ... |
| 07:03.55 | BinarySpike | I just want plugins to work! |
| 07:03.57 | BinarySpike | :) |
| 07:04.02 | a_meteorite | --enable-shared --enable-plugins |
| 07:04.04 | a_meteorite | will work for sure |
| 07:04.05 | BinarySpike | doing that |
| 07:04.20 | BinarySpike | Debian, CVS from ten minutes ago |
| 07:04.30 | a_meteorite | nice |
| 07:04.32 | a_meteorite | new pc? |
| 07:04.47 | BinarySpike | I mean, Debian, BZFlag 2.0.9 from ten minutes ago* |
| 07:04.48 | BinarySpike | A linux |
| 07:05.04 | a_meteorite | I didn't think you had a pc, only macs :P |
| 07:05.05 | BinarySpike | p3, 700mhz |
| 07:05.24 | BinarySpike | Working on a graphics card and sound card now, then I can play bzflag on it :) |
| 07:05.27 | Flash | brlcad: I'm puzzling how a hostname can have multiple IP addresses |
| 07:05.28 | [NP]Tangent | whoa whoa whoa |
| 07:05.35 | [NP]Tangent | BinarySpike not on a mac? |
| 07:05.37 | [NP]Tangent | absurd! |
| 07:05.38 | a_meteorite | Flash: round robin dns... |
| 07:05.45 | a_meteorite | iirc, that's what it's called |
| 07:05.46 | BinarySpike | *is on a mac right now* |
| 07:05.53 | a_meteorite | plus some proxying stuff could do that |
| 07:06.17 | BinarySpike | Flash: IIRC, a single hostname (google.com) and a single port (80) can only have one IP |
| 07:06.39 | BinarySpike | Should be able to do stuff like port mapping so 5154 could be a different server |
| 07:06.58 | BinarySpike | then sub-domains can point to a different IP (IIRC) |
| 07:06.58 | [NP]Tangent | yeah, the host name gets one IP, but then depending on load and stuff, the server can redirect to another IP |
| 07:07.10 | BinarySpike | Tangent is correct :) |
| 07:07.59 | Flash | so why would Address need a vector of addresses (or how could more than one ever be obtained)? |
| 07:08.00 | brlcad | Flash: what's puzzling about that? |
| 07:08.03 | BinarySpike | if I make install a plugin I can just do -loadplugin pluginname |
| 07:08.10 | brlcad | think multiple interfaces |
| 07:08.13 | a_meteorite | yes, BinarySpike |
| 07:08.17 | BinarySpike | thanks meteorite |
| 07:08.22 | Flash | each interface is supposed to have a different name |
| 07:08.23 | a_meteorite | if you specify the path :) |
| 07:08.27 | brlcad | especially more common for servers |
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| 07:08.32 | brlcad | Flash: not necessarily |
| 07:08.41 | BinarySpike | brb gotta go get some milk at the 711 |
| 07:08.47 | a_meteorite | I think bz has a system search path, can't remember now |
| 07:08.50 | brlcad | I can configure a machine to have one hostname and a dozen IP addresses if I were so inclined |
| 07:08.51 | a_meteorite | ... 7/11 at this time? |
| 07:09.16 | brlcad | regardless of having multiple physical interfaces, though usually it's only useful if you have multiple physical interfaces |
| 07:09.22 | Flash | so what call returns all those addresses? |
| 07:10.39 | Flash | gethostbyname, perhaps? |
| 07:12.44 | brlcad | yeah |
| 07:12.51 | brlcad | hostent has an array of IP addrs in it |
| 07:13.07 | brlcad | h_addr_list or somesuch |
| 07:13.52 | [NP]Tangent | I just know that a big example of such round robins in use... IRC servers |
| 07:14.05 | [NP]Tangent | ie, irc.freenode.net doesn't always take you to the same server, does it? |
| 07:14.33 | brlcad | Flash: the biggest benefit is usually so that you can load balance across interfaces and potentially even across physical machines, letting DNS dish out IPs in round-robin fashion |
| 07:14.46 | brlcad | most big servers do this, but even smaller ones |
| 07:14.57 | brlcad | ~nslookup google.com |
| 07:15.22 | blast007 | hehe, silly wait periods ;) |
| 07:16.00 | [NP]Tangent | ~nslookup google.com |
| 07:16.20 | blast007 | it's magic! |
| 07:16.48 | [NP]Tangent | so is my... oh wait, a_meteorite is here. |
| 07:16.51 | [NP]Tangent | nevermind. |
| 07:17.15 | a_meteorite | huh |
| 07:17.29 | [NP]Tangent | neither would met |
| 07:18.28 | [NP]Tangent | oi |
| 07:18.31 | [NP]Tangent | it is STILL snowing |
| 07:22.12 | BinarySpike | ~nslookup google.com |
| 07:22.16 | BinarySpike | cool |
| 07:22.25 | Flash | [NP]Tangent: where? |
| 07:23.40 | brlcad | under the hood not much, makes the same calls |
| 07:24.24 | brlcad | if you run nslookup on the command line, it actually returns all three that google has specified |
| 07:25.36 | [NP]Tangent | Flash, Colorado |
| 07:25.41 | brlcad | gethostbyname does a dns query, gets the IP addresses and it's up to the application (e.g. nslookup, bzfs) to properly handle it |
| 07:26.16 | Flash | more precisely, gethostbyname CAN do a dns query, but it is the most common case |
| 07:27.05 | Flash | [NP]Tangent: me too |
| 07:27.36 | [NP]Tangent | really? |
| 07:27.43 | brlcad | Flash: huh? |
| 07:27.59 | brlcad | it either does a DNS query or it gets the address from /etc/hosts |
| 07:28.12 | brlcad | regardless of whether there is one or twenty IP addresses |
| 07:29.02 | BinarySpike | *wishes he had his fast-wierd page generator* |
| 07:29.42 | BinarySpike | I could put gethotbyname in there with a favorite food of "potatoe wedges" and get a picture of some potatoe wedges off the web and send the link and be all, "Wow, gethostbyname likes potatoe wedges just like me" |
| 07:30.55 | BinarySpike | lol I had a ton of fun with that script! |
| 07:31.52 | BinarySpike | You could put in tons of "statistics" and a description, and pictures and all kinds of "favorite blah" |
| 07:32.15 | BinarySpike | And it would generate you a webpage and you could drop it somewhere and weird people out |
| 07:33.19 | BinarySpike | Color coded too, and you could pick like 8 different themes, so it actually looked professional |
| 07:38.12 | BinarySpike | Does anyone know if bzfs searches for plugins? |
| 07:38.25 | BinarySpike | aka will it search in /usr/local/lib |
| 07:38.49 | BinarySpike | Nvm it doesn't |
| 07:46.03 | BinarySpike | not even /usr/lib |
| 07:54.46 | [NP]Tangent | k, bedtime |
| 07:54.58 | [NP]Tangent | I will be back to ruin BinarySpike's day again tomorrow. |
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| 12:11.28 | spldart | morn'n |
| 12:12.52 | PuMpErNiCkLe | moin |
| 12:20.35 | spldart | Does the cvs update I did yesterday on my 2.0.9 client suppossed to change the version or is the bit of code they added to fight the hack spam not require a ver change? |
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| 16:55.33 | JeffM2501 | did spam guy ever give up? |
| 16:56.27 | SportChick | dunno |
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| 17:14.00 | [NP]Tangent | oi |
| 17:14.06 | [NP]Tangent | A Vicious Muffin is so impatient |
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| 18:27.45 | ts | someone commits too much to v2_0branch :/ |
| 18:28.24 | [NP]Tangent | too much? there's no such thing. |
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| 18:35.48 | ts | [NP]Tangent: Read the topic pls |
| 18:36.47 | [NP]Tangent | mm hmm, so they shouldn't be commiting to 2.0, I gather |
| 18:38.03 | JeffM2501 | ts, we may have to do a 2.0.10 |
| 18:38.07 | JeffM2501 | that was the reason for all that |
| 18:38.33 | ts | I read it..it requires a bug fix, not new features |
| 18:38.58 | JeffM2501 | what new features were added? |
| 18:39.31 | ts | A plugin |
| 18:39.48 | JeffM2501 | that was to be ready when the spamer modifies his script to do a full login |
| 18:39.59 | JeffM2501 | not what I'd call a real feture |
| 18:40.29 | ts | Hmm, I don't think it requires to be a plug-in |
| 18:40.42 | JeffM2501 | requires, no, easy to do as a plugin yes |
| 18:40.47 | JeffM2501 | and low impact on new features |
| 18:41.12 | JeffM2501 | puting it in the bzfs would have been much more "new feature" then I would have liked |
| 18:41.17 | JeffM2501 | thats why I did it as a plugin |
| 18:41.25 | JeffM2501 | to be very optional |
| 18:42.40 | ts | That would have as consequence server owners mostly won't load the plug-in |
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| 18:45.21 | JeffM2501 | I know |
| 18:45.29 | JeffM2501 | it's only there if we need it if it gets realy bad |
| 18:45.32 | JeffM2501 | I don't think it will |
| 18:45.35 | JeffM2501 | but I wanted to have it ready |
| 18:45.40 | JeffM2501 | contigency plan |
| 18:46.06 | JeffM2501 | if the spaming is done, and dosn't come back, I expect noone to ever use that plugin |
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| 18:47.40 | ts | if it comes back then the server owners need to recompile their source tree etc |
| 18:47.56 | JeffM2501 | if he keeps it up the same way |
| 18:48.17 | JeffM2501 | if the spamer modifies his script to do a full login, then the bug fix will not stop them |
| 18:48.45 | JeffM2501 | that is why I wanted another solution that would stop that |
| 18:50.31 | JeffM2501 | and the minimise thing was just cus I got sick of constantly merging it :) |
| 18:50.31 | JeffM2501 | helps me with debugin |
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| 19:04.02 | Erroneous | ~seen RPG |
| 19:04.14 | ibot | rpg <n=rpg@dsl2-31-175.dsl.real-time.com> was last seen on IRC in channel #kde, 34d 4h 5m 59s ago, saying: 'Stupid kmail question (3.4 KDE): I have a saved distribution list, and I have set it as the "to" address of an email. How do I look to see who is in the distribution list?'. |
| 19:04.57 | blast007 | ~seen RPG_ |
| 19:05.00 | ibot | rpg_ <n=RPG@bz.bzflag.bz> was last seen on IRC in channel #botpark, 133d 2h 24m 2s ago, saying: 'but it works with slashnet...'. |
| 19:05.11 | blast007 | heh. |
| 19:05.15 | Erroneous | been a while |
| 19:05.29 | blast007 | seenserv is probably more reliable |
| 19:06.10 | blast007 | Erroneous: actually, RPG_ is online right now |
| 19:06.21 | blast007 | idle 4 days though |
| 19:06.28 | Erroneous | ah |
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| 19:33.53 | findlay | brlcad, JeffM2501: I seem to be suffering the same kind of jumpy behavior that SportChick had a while ago. She mentioned something about a system clock. Might that issue be relevant in my case? |
| 19:34.34 | Tupone | OS? bzflag version? |
| 19:37.38 | findlay | Gentoo Base System version 1.12.7 |
| 19:37.38 | findlay | BZFlag client 2.0.8.20060926-MAINT-linux-gnu-SDL (protocol 0026) http://BZFlag.org/ |
| 19:37.38 | Tupone | not the same problem at all |
| 19:37.49 | findlay | what was SportChick's problem them? |
| 19:37.49 | findlay | s/them/then/ |
| 19:37.49 | Tupone | clock drift |
| 19:37.49 | Tupone | but is no more an issue |
| 19:37.49 | findlay | ok |
| 19:37.50 | Tupone | code has been removed |
| 19:38.33 | findlay | could my isp be queuing traffic for some ridiculous reason (they've done stranger things before)CC? |
| 19:39.02 | Tupone | are you wireless? |
| 19:39.34 | findlay | in fact, I think I can hear the same delay over iax |
| 19:39.34 | findlay | it's all coming together now |
| 19:39.39 | findlay | argh! |
| 19:39.56 | findlay | stupid ISP |
| 19:40.08 | findlay | no wireless |
| 19:41.07 | findlay | someday I'll have a real isp that doesn't do stupid things |
| 19:41.24 | findlay | someday in the far future when the world is a better place |
| 19:42.44 | Tupone | do you have router between you and your ISP? |
| 19:43.02 | findlay | nope |
| 19:43.49 | Tupone | and you are not trasferring file, getting emails etc etc |
| 19:44.22 | findlay | nothing |
| 19:44.39 | Tupone | chatting? :) |
| 19:44.47 | Tupone | kidding |
| 19:44.49 | findlay | only in bzflag |
| 19:45.05 | findlay | yeah, I can be quite voluble (-: |
| 19:46.36 | Tupone | what you mean by "Gentoo Base System version 1.12.7"? where you get that? |
| 19:46.48 | findlay | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:48.03 | _sussi | hi I've a problem, bzflag has no keybinding, but my config is there |
| 19:49.08 | Tupone | findlay: that is just the baselayout version, get is not any gentoo identifier. A "gentoo linux" answer was enough to me |
| 19:49.31 | findlay | aw |
| 19:49.34 | findlay | ok |
| 19:54.37 | blast007 | _sussi: have you tried "Reset Defaults" in the keybinding screen? |
| 19:54.44 | _sussi | no |
| 20:19.09 | _sussi | looks like bzflag delete all suspecting lines in the config |
| 20:19.40 | blast007 | does bzflag have write access to the config file? |
| 20:20.26 | blast007 | (do other settings save properly?) |
| 20:21.39 | _sussi | yep it has write acces /home/me/.bzf/2.0/config.conf |
| 20:22.03 | _sussi | using debian etch, so looks like update from bzflag |
| 20:22.20 | _sussi | had old handedited config |
| 20:25.34 | _sussi | playing :9 |
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| 22:53.20 | JeffM2501 | must be near the holidays, 2 more kiddies on the boards ready for the boot |
| 22:53.33 | blast007 | heh |
| 22:53.54 | JeffM2501 | how hard would it be for you too redo that mod that lets me set them to not post? |
| 22:54.07 | blast007 | probably not hard |
| 22:54.10 | a_meteorite | haha |
| 22:54.16 | JeffM2501 | may need it soon |
| 22:54.19 | a_meteorite | this sig... |
| 22:54.24 | blast007 | JeffM2501: yeah :) |
| 22:54.27 | a_meteorite | i wish i was *insert top rank image* |
| 22:54.32 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 22:54.40 | JeffM2501 | that boy is "special" |
| 22:54.44 | a_meteorite | lol |
| 22:55.05 | a_meteorite | I wanna be special ;) |
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| 22:55.18 | a_meteorite | *sarcasm* |
| 22:55.21 | blast007 | a_meteorite: you don't want to be THAT special |
| 22:56.11 | blast007 | JeffM2501: has there been any spam lately? |
| 22:57.06 | blast007 | (on the forum, that is) |
| 22:57.50 | JeffM2501 | no, not at all |
| 22:57.57 | JeffM2501 | so good job man |
| 22:58.11 | Erroneous | woot |
| 22:58.18 | Erroneous | ~blast007++ |
| 22:58.33 | JeffM2501 | indeed |
| 22:58.49 | JeffM2501 | ibot blast007 ++ |
| 22:58.50 | JeffM2501 | ibot blast007++ |
| 23:00.49 | blast007 | :) |
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| 23:07.10 | spldart | ~blast007++ squared |
| 23:07.50 | PuMpErNiCkLe | ~blast007+=i |
| 23:08.15 | spldart | ~blast007++E99 |
| 23:10.48 | Erroneous | PuMpErNiCkLe: what, now you're granting imaginary karma? |
| 23:11.45 | blast007 | but I like the square root of -1! |
| 23:11.47 | Erroneous | at least be rational about it |
| 23:11.52 | spldart | LOL |
| 23:11.53 | blast007 | heh |
| 23:12.12 | Erroneous | it's an integral part of the way things work around here |
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| 23:12.41 | blast007 | Erroneous: no, keep going, it's bash worthy |
| 23:12.43 | Erroneous | it's just not natural! |
| 23:16.02 | spldart | Lets just sum up and be done with it.... |
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| 23:17.45 | Erroneous | but we haven't gotten to the root of the problem! |
| 23:21.17 | spldart | I got a prime idea. Don't be a square and stop thinking negatively. |
| 23:21.44 | spldart | spldart=lame puns |
| 23:22.26 | spldart | Next thing yah know I'll be talking about well lubricated tanks again 8-0 |
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