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| 00:11.51 | zee936 | guys how can I print the unix time? |
| 00:11.58 | bzflaginator | what? |
| 00:12.12 | zee936 | from the starts in decimal |
| 00:12.20 | bzflaginator | dunno |
| 00:12.44 | zee936 | lol wrong channel |
| 00:21.31 | Chestal | date +%s ? |
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| 01:50.36 | AAA_awright | I was compliling the bzflag cvs head in Dev-C++, and I get hundreds of warnings:" 313 C:\Dev-Cpp\Projects\bzflag\include\bzfsAPI.h [Warning] attribute ignored." |
| 01:50.59 | AAA_awright | so many it dies saying "There must be something terribly wrong with your code. Please fix it. " |
| 01:51.11 | AAA_awright | any help? |
| 01:51.16 | a_meteorite | LOL |
| 01:51.44 | JeffM2501 | I don't think the project for dev C++ in head is up to date |
| 01:52.01 | JeffM2501 | also devC++ IIRC dosn't have full API/plugin support |
| 01:52.13 | JeffM2501 | do you realy HAVE to use dev C++? |
| 01:52.29 | Theme97 | 300+ warnings gives that message, right? |
| 01:53.12 | a_meteorite | so that means if I write bad code I'm screwed with Dev-C++? |
| 01:53.34 | JeffM2501 | you can probalby turn off the warnings |
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| 03:02.45 | spldart | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:02.52 | spldart | poop |
| 03:16.25 | AAA_awright | I am getting attribute ignored messages on lines with _just whitespace and a bracket_ |
| 03:16.35 | AAA_awright | 1006 C:\Dev-Cpp\Projects\bzflag\include\bzfsAPI.h [Warning] attribute ignored. |
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| 03:16.50 | AAA_awright | line 1006 is: "{" |
| 03:17.02 | AAA_awright | any clue? anyone? |
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| 03:19.54 | cosmos | <CantorMan> 7800 calories per day is normal for an adult male |
| 03:20.31 | codergeek42 | That's a bit too much methinks. o_O |
| 03:20.36 | AAA_awright | s/normal/ridiculous/ |
| 03:20.48 | AAA_awright | you misspeled "normal" |
| 03:20.50 | cosmos | yeah |
| 03:20.53 | AAA_awright | CantorMan :) |
| 03:20.59 | cosmos | the guy is 5'9 and 435 lbs |
| 03:21.06 | cosmos | but claims he is perfectly healthy |
| 03:21.46 | AAA_awright | the heaviest someone who is eating healthy can get is about 300 (though I am not a doctor) |
| 03:22.11 | AAA_awright | after that, you have to blame at least _some_ of it on eating |
| 03:22.16 | cosmos | well |
| 03:22.27 | cosmos | this guy has admitted to eating 5 wendys triples for lunch |
| 03:22.41 | AAA_awright | there you go. |
| 03:23.37 | cosmos | not sure i could stomach one |
| 03:23.41 | cosmos | let alone 5 |
| 03:25.02 | spldart | lol |
| 03:25.09 | spldart | one triple feels.... heavy on me |
| 03:25.40 | L4m3r | how much beef is it? |
| 03:26.28 | L4m3r | I can eat a one-pound burger... |
| 03:26.59 | L4m3r | both, the Fuddrucker's one-pounder and Carl's Jr.'s double six-dollar burger :P |
| 03:28.51 | cosmos | well its three wendys patties |
| 03:28.57 | cosmos | seperated by cheese |
| 03:29.27 | cosmos | that CantorMan guy eats 3 of the carls juniors double six dollar burgers without a problem |
| 03:30.03 | cosmos | or two bk quadruple stackers |
| 03:30.25 | spldart | Prolly 2/3 pound all together |
| 03:31.33 | L4m3r | TWO double six-dollar burgers? Holy God |
| 03:31.48 | L4m3r | er, THREE?! |
| 03:31.57 | cosmos | yeah dude |
| 03:32.12 | L4m3r | heh, does a quad stacker really have more meat on it than a double six-dollar? lol |
| 03:32.16 | cosmos | www.hepcat.org/bigbill |
| 03:33.04 | L4m3r | wow... and he's not even that large |
| 03:33.16 | cosmos | not large? |
| 03:33.23 | cosmos | the dude looks like grimace |
| 03:33.24 | L4m3r | I mean, not what you'd expect for someone who eats THAT much |
| 03:34.14 | cosmos | im upset that im 6'1 220. i cant imagine 5'9 and 435 |
| 03:34.48 | L4m3r | ha, cosmos, my dad is the same height and weight |
| 03:35.00 | L4m3r | I'm like 5'11" and 250 >_< |
| 03:39.33 | cosmos | yeah |
| 03:39.48 | cosmos | when i was 18 i was only about 175-180 |
| 03:40.15 | cosmos | i dont think you could find more than 3 kids in the high school over 220lbs |
| 03:40.24 | cosmos | and most of those were over 6'4 |
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| 03:40.43 | L4m3r | I gained about 30 pounds after entering college |
| 03:41.07 | L4m3r | second-best dorm food in the country... heh... |
| 03:41.09 | cosmos | i put on about 5-7 then. it was about 27-30 that killed me |
| 03:41.27 | cosmos | no more, im getting back into 15 miles a day running shape |
| 03:46.51 | brlcad | L4m3r: hah |
| 03:47.20 | L4m3r | lol brlcad, just get that message now? |
| 03:48.02 | brlcad | i didn't really gain anything through college (actually lost 10-15 one year from excessive exercising for sport) |
| 03:48.07 | brlcad | now since college..... :) |
| 03:48.14 | brlcad | didn't just get it, just read it :) |
| 03:55.31 | L4m3r | heh |
| 03:56.07 | L4m3r | I was tempted to post "You mean BRL-Cad, right?" and wait for someone to say wtf |
| 03:56.44 | brlcad | hrm, maybe you think I was hah'ing about something else... :) |
| 03:57.24 | brlcad | ahh, last night :) |
| 03:57.28 | brlcad | hah :) |
| 03:57.30 | L4m3r | oh |
| 03:58.26 | L4m3r | lol |
| 03:58.38 | L4m3r | what can I say... the food is good :P |
| 03:59.38 | cosmos | jej |
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| 03:59.57 | cosmos | super size me is on now |
| 03:59.59 | brlcad | indeed |
| 04:01.04 | cosmos | some scary stuff in that film |
| 04:01.16 | L4m3r | *cough* |
| 04:02.17 | cosmos | by the end of the film the guy is in serious health jeopardy |
| 04:02.24 | cosmos | from one month of nothing but mcdonalds |
| 04:02.30 | L4m3r | yeah |
| 04:02.51 | L4m3r | probably malnutrition more than anything else |
| 04:03.06 | L4m3r | missing critical stuff :P |
| 04:03.15 | cosmos | which pretty much sums up mcdonalds health benefits |
| 04:03.27 | cosmos | i like the guy on there who has eaten more than 20,000 big macs |
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| 04:03.51 | L4m3r | yes, anyone with common sense knows you need to diversify your fast-food diet, or face even worse consequences :D |
| 04:04.11 | cosmos | or possibly eat well balanced meals and fast food only occasionally |
| 04:04.28 | blast007 | but the grease tastes sooo goood! |
| 04:04.41 | cosmos | heh the kids thought the picture of jesus was george w bush. but they all knew ronald mcdonald |
| 04:05.07 | blast007 | one time I got a double cheeseburger from McDonalds, and I didn't notice until I was half way through it that they forgot the patty |
| 04:05.21 | cosmos | both pattys blast? |
| 04:05.24 | blast007 | yeah |
| 04:05.31 | blast007 | tasted the same |
| 04:05.32 | cosmos | hahaha |
| 04:05.38 | L4m3r | blast007: they did that on some candid camera show with Krystal burgers |
| 04:05.44 | cosmos | what do you expect for $1 |
| 04:06.06 | cosmos | i have not had krystals since 1996 when i was in new orleans |
| 04:06.06 | L4m3r | and THAT would not surprise me. those patties are like 1/8" at the thick parts |
| 04:06.19 | L4m3r | I had them once |
| 04:06.30 | L4m3r | visiting relatives in Chattanooga, TN |
| 04:06.43 | L4m3r | I ate six... heh |
| 04:06.56 | cosmos | the south has some weird food chains. whattaburger got caught using horse meat and one even had human cadaver meat in a 1995 sting |
| 04:07.10 | L4m3r | nasty |
| 04:07.18 | cosmos | their "supplier" was to blame |
| 04:07.37 | L4m3r | LOL, the best part about Krystal was the fact that a ton of us went |
| 04:07.54 | L4m3r | my mom and sister and I, great aunt/uncle and I think a granparent or two |
| 04:08.20 | L4m3r | so my uncle goes up and orders for everyone... he's rather large.... |
| 04:08.31 | L4m3r | "I'd like 30 Krystals, please." |
| 04:09.50 | L4m3r | ...human cadaver meat? how the hell does that happen? |
| 04:10.10 | L4m3r | did someone fall into the grinder while no one was looking? |
| 04:15.30 | brlcad | ~spell molasis |
| 04:26.45 | spldart | my uncle owned alotta whataburger. Was on the board... Human cadaver... right >:-( |
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| 05:16.43 | Flash | what do you think about timestamping the user messages in the console window? |
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| 05:17.33 | L4m3r | maybe as an option |
| 05:17.46 | L4m3r | more useful for logging... kinda lame and a waste of space ingame |
| 05:18.13 | Flash | for real-time on-line, you are probably right |
| 05:18.41 | L4m3r | I take it you're thinking of replay servers? :P |
| 05:18.43 | Flash | it would be useful to me when I'm monitoring a site and not paying attention ;-) |
| 05:18.59 | L4m3r | heh |
| 05:19.23 | L4m3r | It wouldn't be very annoying in bzadmin at all :P |
| 05:19.52 | L4m3r | quick patch, too |
| 05:19.52 | Flash | I don't use bzadmin as much, because I need to see visually what is going on |
| 05:20.03 | Flash | but yes, that would be easy for bzadmin |
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| 05:40.04 | Flash | Is there a bzflag time utility? |
| 05:45.31 | JeffM2501 | what do you mean? |
| 05:47.54 | Flash | something to get the current time and format it |
| 05:48.03 | Flash | or just use time(2) ? |
| 05:48.42 | JeffM2501 | on the server or client? |
| 05:49.12 | Flash | client |
| 05:49.20 | Flash | but does it matter? |
| 05:49.30 | JeffM2501 | yeah |
| 05:49.36 | JeffM2501 | server has the time API calls |
| 05:49.42 | JeffM2501 | they make it easy |
| 05:49.48 | JeffM2501 | client only has the timekeeper class |
| 05:49.56 | Flash | sounds like something to move into a library? |
| 05:50.20 | JeffM2501 | cient never realy needs it |
| 05:50.28 | Flash | what is ares? |
| 05:50.28 | JeffM2501 | nor has plugins |
| 05:50.38 | JeffM2501 | an async DNS lookup |
| 05:50.48 | JeffM2501 | timekeeper can give you the time of day |
| 05:51.15 | Flash | does it format it? |
| 05:51.24 | JeffM2501 | it dosn't return a string |
| 05:52.28 | JeffM2501 | what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 05:53.01 | brlcad | mm.. logging |
| 05:53.07 | brlcad | L4m3r: where's that thread? |
| 05:53.17 | L4m3r | chat forum |
| 05:53.24 | brlcad | thx |
| 05:53.25 | L4m3r | "Who's NOT going to get Vista?" |
| 05:53.34 | Flash | I want to add a time stamp to player messages in bzadmin |
| 05:53.39 | Flash | as a start... |
| 05:54.02 | brlcad | Flash: pretty simple patch |
| 05:54.20 | Flash | I'd like an option to time-stamp messages in the client, but L4m3r convinced me to start with bzadmin |
| 05:54.22 | brlcad | wouldn't add it to the game client, though, cept maybe as an option |
| 05:54.32 | L4m3r | convinved? |
| 05:54.38 | L4m3r | convinced* |
| 05:54.45 | JeffM2501 | just add a method to time keeper that gives you back time of day as a string |
| 05:54.47 | L4m3r | I just mentioned it :P |
| 05:54.58 | Flash | I'm easily persuaded ;-) |
| 05:55.41 | Flash | this is one of those areas that are easy to screw up in a cross-platform way |
| 05:55.54 | JeffM2501 | not if you use time keeper |
| 05:55.59 | JeffM2501 | as it has the corss plat stuff |
| 05:56.02 | JeffM2501 | you just need to format it |
| 05:56.17 | Flash | is strftime cross-platform? |
| 05:56.24 | brlcad | there's existing funcs in timekeeper that do sort of the same thing, just different format for different purpose |
| 05:56.29 | brlcad | e.g. printTime() |
| 05:56.32 | Flash | cool |
| 05:56.40 | JeffM2501 | there is a string one? |
| 05:56.44 | JeffM2501 | well yeah, then use that ;0 |
| 05:57.22 | brlcad | yeah, but it doesn't print the time of day -- it's just similar |
| 05:57.33 | JeffM2501 | then make one that does |
| 05:57.34 | brlcad | it prints the offset from startup for things like uptime |
| 05:57.45 | JeffM2501 | just use the text utils format, it'll work anywhere |
| 05:58.04 | Flash | yeah, printTime isn't what I want |
| 05:59.25 | brlcad | not that it was what you want |
| 05:59.33 | brlcad | just an example to follow |
| 06:00.19 | Flash | yes, I got that part |
| 06:03.38 | Flash | TimeKeeper does have a timestamp function |
| 06:04.09 | Flash | I'll just add a short_timestamp function and I'll be good |
| 06:11.38 | Flash | is there any threading in the client, server, or admin client? |
| 06:12.00 | JeffM2501 | not realy |
| 06:12.13 | JeffM2501 | there can be alittle for the auto thread on some clients |
| 06:12.31 | Flash | ok... FWIW TimeKeeper::timestamp is not thread safe |
| 06:12.38 | brlcad | heh |
| 06:12.44 | brlcad | most of bzflag isn't thread safe |
| 06:12.52 | JeffM2501 | so is a lot of the code ;) |
| 06:13.19 | brlcad | probably "most" code even |
| 06:16.01 | Flash | so I've been "dinged" for putting too much in a patch .... ;-) |
| 06:16.15 | Flash | TimeKeeper uses the foo(void) syntax |
| 06:16.20 | Flash | which isn't really C++ |
| 06:16.29 | Flash | ... |
| 06:16.45 | JeffM2501 | does it matter? |
| 06:16.51 | JeffM2501 | some things are fine C style |
| 06:17.25 | Flash | matter how? It's one of those things that bugs me |
| 06:17.41 | JeffM2501 | the entire format of the code bugs me |
| 06:29.13 | brlcad | "isn't really C++"?? it is, it's just optional |
| 06:29.36 | brlcad | and *really* doesn't matter |
| 06:29.45 | Flash | Actually, it is tolerated, but not part the the syntax |
| 06:30.07 | Flash | in C it necessary to differentiate between a function with no prototype and one that takes no arguments |
| 06:30.15 | Flash | in C++ there is no ambiguity |
| 06:30.39 | Flash | technically, it should mean a function that takes an argument of type void (which isn't possible) |
| 06:30.42 | brlcad | it's not invalid C++ is the only point being made |
| 06:30.57 | brlcad | hence, optional |
| 06:31.04 | Flash | not invalid, but not proper, that was my only point |
| 06:31.24 | brlcad | proper in your opinion :) |
| 06:31.43 | Flash | and the prevailing best practices of the community |
| 06:31.47 | brlcad | the language allows it and it does have a mild use for some situations |
| 06:32.02 | Flash | what is the use? |
| 06:32.04 | brlcad | perhaps, i'm not sure I'd call that a "Best practice" in the least |
| 06:32.10 | brlcad | it really just doesn't matter much |
| 06:32.38 | a_meteorite | uh oh, c++ philosophy "discussion"... |
| 06:32.51 | Flash | just to be clear, is it something you prefer, or just a "leave it alone" thing? |
| 06:33.19 | Flash | a_meteorite: no, not tonight (at least, not much) |
| 06:33.29 | a_meteorite | hehe |
| 06:33.46 | brlcad | Flash: just a "leave it alone" thing |
| 06:34.11 | Flash | that's fine; I conceded that 15 mins ago ;-) |
| 06:34.25 | brlcad | i couldn't care less whether it was used or not, prevailing convention uses it and consistency prevails over personal preference |
| 06:36.12 | brlcad | more than likely a convention that carried over from the code's early day C heritage, again consistency being king |
| 06:36.19 | Flash | consistency with what is already there has merit |
| 06:36.48 | Flash | but it can result in the propagation of bad habits if adhered to slavishly ;-) |
| 06:36.59 | brlcad | major merit in production |
| 06:38.30 | brlcad | the intent is generally to maintain the integrity of the code, and consistency is major even if there's a dispute over a stylistic issue such as this |
| 06:39.26 | brlcad | specifying void wouldn't be a "bad habit", it's really a meh issue imho -- so you have a ton of code that had/has to use it, might as well make all use it and be consistent |
| 06:40.11 | brlcad | if there's a dev decision to change some stylistic component, it's best that they be comprehensive efforts -- not changing bits here and there but actually changing all of them at once |
| 06:40.44 | brlcad | otherwise, you end up with pieces of everyone's preferences everywhere over time, frequently unfinished efforts |
| 06:42.24 | Flash | I think you already have that |
| 06:43.08 | trepan | s/( *void *)/()/ , see what breaks ;) |
| 06:44.31 | brlcad | heh |
| 06:45.05 | brlcad | Flash: yes, by people not following that simple guideline -- it's no excuse to make it worse though |
| 06:46.24 | Flash | making anything worse is a bad idea |
| 06:52.29 | brlcad | and with a flick of the wrist... |
| 06:52.46 | brlcad | let the e-mails flow |
| 06:58.42 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (830 files in 46 dirs): Ding, dong, 2006 is dead. Update copyright to 2007. |
| 06:58.53 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (157 files in 10 dirs): Ding, dong, 2006 is dead. Update copyright to 2007. |
| 07:00.11 | blast007 | heh |
| 07:07.14 | Flash | so what is so bad about changing (void) to () .... ;-) |
| 07:07.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/misc/touchcopyright: old was 2006 |
| 07:08.48 | Flash | 988 files at once ;-) |
| 07:09.32 | a_meteorite | Afraid people might get a jump on the amount of years needed to expire a copyright? ;) |
| 07:09.45 | brlcad | nothing really if it's all updated. like trepan said, just see what breaks |
| 07:10.38 | Flash | lol |
| 07:10.44 | brlcad | but more to the point, if you don't have commit access yet, this is all moot since I'm not going to do it -- there's more important things (like *cough* copyright) that needs updating |
| 07:11.47 | brlcad | it *really* doesn't matter, i'm baffled that you'd even get caught up on such an uninmportant issue that has no real negative impact |
| 07:11.50 | a_meteorite | 2005 feels like yesterday... |
| 07:12.00 | a_meteorite | must be the fact that BZFlag has taken me over O_o |
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| 15:45.36 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/Makefile.am: heh, missing README from dist?? |
| 15:52.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/Makefile.am: install some of our documentation into /usr/local/share/doc/bzflag (i.e. datadir/doc/bzflag). may be a better place for it, but it's a start. |
| 16:00.06 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/Makefile.am: more extra dist and documentation files missing (added AUTHORS, COPYING, ChangeLog, NEWS, TODO, ideas.txt) |
| 16:01.11 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/.cvsignore: a little less to ignore now since misc is the aux dir, most of the helper auto-generated autofoo scripts are generated there now |
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| 16:20.14 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/src/ (bzflag/Makefile.am bzfs/Makefile.am bzadmin/Makefile.am): a little consistency |
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| 17:09.49 | brlcad | cosmos: heh |
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| 17:21.33 | ts | JeffM2501: It works now without slow motion, I can trigger only an error of 3% at 0 FPS |
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| 17:21.52 | JeffM2501 | ts, cool |
| 17:22.03 | JeffM2501 | does it jitter less when you hit a screenshot too? |
| 17:22.16 | ts | I haven't tested..one moment pl |
| 17:22.20 | ts | s |
| 17:25.02 | ts | JeffM2501: Yes, it jitters a bit but not much |
| 17:25.06 | JeffM2501 | ok |
| 17:25.16 | JeffM2501 | I had a bug in my code that probably cuased the biger jitter |
| 17:25.24 | JeffM2501 | well good, I'm glad it works better |
| 17:25.33 | JeffM2501 | 0 fps is kind of unrasonable |
| 17:25.55 | JeffM2501 | and if we have to, we can increase the chunk size |
| 17:26.08 | ts | /localset fpsLimit 1 sets my framerate to 0 and every once in a while to 1.. |
| 17:26.35 | JeffM2501 | do you think this solution is better then the pause one? |
| 17:26.53 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 17:27.10 | JeffM2501 | that may be bash worthy |
| 17:27.14 | ts | Partly it is better. I think it should send a MsgScreenshot over the wire, other than that it is fine |
| 17:27.29 | JeffM2501 | just to notify the server? |
| 17:27.44 | JeffM2501 | what would the server do with that info? |
| 17:27.51 | ts | The server should broadcast that to the other clients |
| 17:27.55 | JeffM2501 | why? |
| 17:28.06 | ts | You can avoid getting shot with screenshots |
| 17:28.12 | JeffM2501 | still? |
| 17:28.32 | JeffM2501 | ahh, check environment needs the loop too |
| 17:28.38 | JeffM2501 | I'll just fix that part :) |
| 17:29.17 | ts | I need to test..but I think when one shoots while you are screenshotting then you don't see the bullet |
| 17:29.39 | ts | if the bullet is already visible to you then the bullet line is interpolated and you die.. |
| 17:30.01 | JeffM2501 | well once I timestamp shots, then it'll still be ok |
| 17:30.16 | JeffM2501 | then it can comp for the big DT |
| 17:30.24 | ts | JeffM2501: There was a guy banned on a league because he used the feature a lot |
| 17:30.38 | JeffM2501 | ts, sure, cus in 2.0.x that's an exploit |
| 17:30.44 | JeffM2501 | in 2.2 I'd rather fix the problems |
| 17:30.53 | JeffM2501 | then just leave it up to a "don't hit screenshot" thing |
| 17:31.06 | JeffM2501 | there is no reason we can't make screenshot not affect gameplay |
| 17:31.28 | JeffM2501 | if we find we can't reasonably do that, then yeah maybe we add a message and leave it up to a social thing |
| 17:31.36 | JeffM2501 | but I think we should at least try to solve them first |
| 17:32.02 | ts | solving is always good ;) |
| 17:33.00 | JeffM2501 | so it sounds like we are geting closer and your finding more things to fix. it's all good |
| 17:33.41 | ts | Are the playerupdates timestamped btw? |
| 17:33.51 | JeffM2501 | yes |
| 17:34.09 | ts | How can I access the timestamps in bzfsPlayerStateVerify.cxx? |
| 17:34.10 | JeffM2501 | and the client will forward plot them now when it gets them |
| 17:34.26 | JeffM2501 | dunno if the server keeps the last one |
| 17:34.37 | JeffM2501 | it may be part of the last state |
| 17:35.32 | ts | Ok, I'll look after watching the news.. |
| 17:37.55 | Tupone | ts, I think, in HEAD, you send position and shot all together, and shot is without a position |
| 17:38.38 | JeffM2501 | yeah you made it always use the tank pos for the shot didn't you? |
| 17:38.58 | JeffM2501 | that was a good change |
| 17:39.04 | Tupone | yeah, but rereading ts, it is not this case |
| 17:39.07 | Tupone | :/ |
| 17:39.37 | JeffM2501 | well I see where the shot hit computation would geek on a large dt, and I'm fixing that now, it should help. |
| 17:40.24 | Tupone | I would have preferred an analytical solution, but ... ok |
| 17:41.13 | JeffM2501 | as would I |
| 17:41.23 | JeffM2501 | I'm sure this won't be the end of it |
| 17:41.56 | JeffM2501 | my greatest joy would be this code to be removed, and the physics redone to be correct for any dt |
| 17:42.25 | JeffM2501 | well that and wining a house |
| 17:42.32 | JeffM2501 | cus that woudl be wicked cool |
| 17:44.33 | ts | Tupone: I wrote I need to test it..I can only say for sure how it is in v2_0branch |
| 17:44.42 | ts | I can hardly test it alone |
| 17:45.35 | JeffM2501 | I am sure I've seen the code Tupone mentions, it using the tank postion for the shot. since we comp the tank pos now. that should help a lot with also comping the shots. |
| 17:46.03 | JeffM2501 | when blast and I tested the lag comp stuff it seemd to work ok, but we didn't test extreme lag situations |
| 17:46.13 | JeffM2501 | we should do a big testing gig one night again. |
| 17:46.48 | Erroneous | decks! |
| 17:47.07 | JeffM2501 | have to install an ide on my lapy tho |
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| 17:48.50 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/ (BaseLocalPlayer.cxx playing.cxx playing.h): do the big dt updates in a chunked loop to prevent big dt spikes. A better fix would be to redo the updates to just handle big dt values |
| 17:49.07 | Erroneous | mmm, chunky |
| 17:49.14 | JeffM2501 | heh |
| 17:50.00 | ts | JeffM2501: Well, I can only help testing this week, not next. So if you're planning it this week, then tell me |
| 17:50.38 | JeffM2501 | plan? :) |
| 17:53.30 | brlcad | JeffM2501: heh, maybe |
| 17:53.33 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (Makefile.am README RELNOTES debian/bzflag.docs): remove obsolete RELNOTES. NEWS has the goods. |
| 17:53.38 | brlcad | though I thing I posted more a few years back |
| 17:53.50 | JeffM2501 | probably |
| 17:54.09 | JeffM2501 | you post more for the week, I post less.. |
| 17:54.29 | brlcad | wierd how that usually works out |
| 17:54.55 | Erroneous | what, is there like an admin post quota or somethning I don't know about? :) |
| 17:55.01 | Erroneous | eek, typos |
| 17:55.02 | JeffM2501 | not having your normal computer kinda sucks :( |
| 17:55.06 | JeffM2501 | Erroneous, yes |
| 18:07.32 | ts | blast007: Where did your site go? |
| 18:08.17 | blast007 | I probably broke it |
| 18:08.32 | blast007 | yeah, messing with permissions last night ;) |
| 18:09.48 | ts | You're not giving much perms to people ;) |
| 18:10.39 | blast007 | hehe |
| 18:19.40 | ts | blast007: Now I can look but see only empty content |
| 18:23.51 | blast007 | that's cuz the directory is empty ;) |
| 18:26.22 | ts | Hmm, someone broke bzflag |
| 18:26.43 | ts | All I get is a black screen with the All, Chat etc tabs |
| 18:31.22 | ts | JeffM2501: Your latest playing.cxx changes are responsible for it |
| 18:32.02 | JeffM2501 | realy? |
| 18:32.06 | JeffM2501 | wow |
| 18:32.08 | ts | I reverted only playing.cxx back and it worked then |
| 18:32.13 | JeffM2501 | cool |
| 18:33.20 | JeffM2501 | bahh, I'm stupid |
| 18:33.21 | ts | Revision 2.246 works |
| 18:34.02 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03jeffm2501 * 10bzflag/src/bzflag/playing.cxx: why do people let me still commit? |
| 18:34.12 | ts | heh |
| 18:34.47 | JeffM2501 | gotta love infinate loops |
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| 18:35.26 | gsnedders | my commit message (that followed that) in #commits seems overly serious |
| 18:46.13 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/README: update manifest to match current contents more closely. leaving out external codes in src. |
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| 19:23.32 | ts | JeffM2501: I found probs when testing :/ |
| 19:24.10 | ts | It logs me with GM from time to time saying I try to stop the unexisting shot ids 0 or 1 |
| 19:24.19 | ts | I don't know if this is new or not |
| 19:29.26 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/misc/multilingualSwearList.txt: apply a set of profanity patches from 'harry666t' for polish language |
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| 19:30.56 | dr_Hertz | I can't seem to connect...is there something obvious that I could check? I'm behind a firewall if that matters |
| 19:31.08 | JeffM2501 | connect to what dr_Hertz ? |
| 19:31.20 | dr_Hertz | Sorry...connect to a server |
| 19:31.52 | dr_Hertz | The app loads, I can see the server list, but then it always errors out |
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| 19:41.39 | CIA-3 | BZFlag: 03brlcad * 10bzflag/ (NEWS AUTHORS): credit harry666t for the polish language filter updates |
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| 20:03.41 | bz06 | hello! |
| 20:03.50 | EbErT | hi! |
| 20:04.13 | bz06 | Newbie here. Looking for help with loading maps. |
| 20:04.54 | bz06 | The only server option I have for World Maps is "random map" looking to load others |
| 20:05.10 | CBG | Using the in-game menu, right? |
| 20:05.26 | bz06 | yes |
| 20:06.12 | blast007 | Windows? |
| 20:06.18 | bz06 | yes |
| 20:06.26 | bz06 | I am on the Start Server Menu |
| 20:07.39 | blast007 | you can put map files in: My Documents\My BZFlag Files\worlds |
| 20:08.37 | bz06 | on the clinet machines or on the server machine? Thanks! |
| 20:09.09 | blast007 | server |
| 20:09.22 | blast007 | the server will hand out the map to the clients |
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| 20:28.02 | bz06 | Ok I can see the ".bzw" maps now within the Start Server menu but when the clients connect they do not see the new maps? |
| 20:29.02 | brlcad | that's not a list of maps for it to choose from, you pick one to run |
| 20:29.16 | brlcad | if you want a list of maps, you have to script it |
| 20:30.31 | bz06 | so what exactly do I have to do in order to use a different map other than the default map? Thanks! |
| 20:31.58 | brlcad | well you can select one of those maps.. but you have to select it from the list |
| 20:32.25 | brlcad | you, as in the person that starts the server. and if the server is already running, you need to stop it first |
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| 20:46.27 | bz06 | what is the best way to stop the server? |
| 20:46.48 | bz06 | I close everything on the server but clients are still able to connect?? |
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| 20:48.18 | tannerld | bz06: connect to the server ,become admin, and do "/shutdownserver" |
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| 20:49.52 | blast007 | tannerld: he's running it from the Start Server menu |
| 20:50.07 | tannerld | blast007: ah *doink* |
| 20:50.18 | blast007 | bz06: if you exit the client that started the server, I think that closes the server down too |
| 20:50.33 | blast007 | if not, just use the Task Manager's process tab to end "bzfs.exe" |
| 20:51.19 | blast007 | (that's assuming you're running Windows 2000 or XP) |
| 20:51.58 | bz06 | XP |
| 20:52.19 | brlcad | yeah, quitting doesn't necessarily shut it down .. "supposed to", but sometimes doesn't |
| 20:53.24 | bz06 | Ok, I will keep trying. I can get everyone to log off and the setting change (jumping ect...) but the maps do not change when I make that setting?? |
| 20:55.19 | blast007 | the Start Server menu isn't perfect |
| 20:55.29 | blast007 | it's just a quick way to start a basic server |
| 20:55.45 | blast007 | the world file can't change without starting a new server |
| 20:55.59 | blast007 | same with a number of other settings |
| 20:56.02 | JeffM2501 | all the people who run "real" permanent servers manualy run them using the command line and a config. |
| 21:14.14 | donny_baker | mofo admin:ping |
| 21:15.56 | SpazzyMcGee | donny: pong |
| 21:15.57 | SpazzyMcGee | Crazy texture glitch: any ideas how to solve? http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/284/texglitchzz6.jpg |
| 21:16.09 | SpazzyMcGee | donny join ##planet-mofo |
| 21:16.21 | SpazzyMcGee | ##planetmofo |
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| 21:16.27 | JeffM2501 | SpazzyMcGee, what card? |
| 21:17.03 | SpazzyMcGee | my video card? |
| 21:17.14 | SpazzyMcGee | ATI mobility radeon 9550 |
| 21:17.25 | JeffM2501 | you running in 16 bit color or 32 bit? |
| 21:17.35 | JeffM2501 | looks to be an issue with your depth buffer |
| 21:18.29 | JeffM2501 | what OS? |
| 21:18.32 | SpazzyMcGee | OSX |
| 21:18.38 | JeffM2501 | oh |
| 21:18.47 | JeffM2501 | then it'll say "thousands" or "millions" |
| 21:18.52 | SpazzyMcGee | millions |
| 21:19.00 | JeffM2501 | 10.4? |
| 21:19.22 | SpazzyMcGee | ye |
| 21:19.27 | JeffM2501 | wierd |
| 21:20.00 | SpazzyMcGee | i've had similar issues before |
| 21:20.21 | JeffM2501 | probalby something wacky with the driver |
| 21:21.02 | SpazzyMcGee | ok, then It's unlikely going to display strangely on most other clients |
| 21:21.14 | JeffM2501 | I'd think not |
| 21:21.22 | SpazzyMcGee | cheers |
| 21:23.33 | brlcad | up close doesn't exactly look right either |
| 21:24.17 | brlcad | i.e. some problem with the model that was bround in, looks like it's a mesh |
| 21:24.42 | SpazzyMcGee | yeah it is |
| 21:24.43 | JeffM2501 | a bad normal shoudln't make the face go wacked at distance |
| 21:24.48 | SpazzyMcGee | jeff said.... |
| 21:24.50 | SpazzyMcGee | ah |
| 21:24.58 | JeffM2501 | tho could be bad crap in the octree |
| 21:25.35 | brlcad | maybe not the normals themselves, but still something bad with the model |
| 21:25.52 | SpazzyMcGee | it was the wings 3d exporter which isn't renowned for its..... reliable output. |
| 21:26.30 | CBG | I like the effort you've gone to on the comments in that image, SpazzyMcGee ;) |
| 21:26.37 | CBG | Not just white text.... oh no! |
| 21:26.40 | SpazzyMcGee | hehe |
| 21:26.43 | CBG | Black text with a white stroke!! |
| 21:27.02 | brlcad | so he likes to stroke, no harm in that |
| 21:27.02 | SpazzyMcGee | I'm glad it's appreciated |
| 21:27.25 | CBG | brlcad: :o |
| 21:27.29 | brlcad | :) |
| 21:27.37 | CBG | yes, he strokes his.. cat. |
| 21:27.40 | CBG | Who doesn't? |
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| 21:28.53 | SpazzyMcGee | well, i'll run it public and see what people say |
| 21:29.10 | CBG | public stroking? yikes. |
| 21:29.37 | SpazzyMcGee | CBG: you have no idea..... ;P |
| 21:29.47 | CBG | o.O |
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| 23:36.27 | [Scythereal] | Can someone tell me which port I need to forward for BZFlag? |
| 23:38.41 | JeffM2501 | to run a server? |
| 23:39.04 | [Scythereal] | To access the list serevr |
| 23:39.17 | JeffM2501 | list server is just http over port 80 |
| 23:39.21 | CBG | None. It's on 80. |
| 23:39.24 | JeffM2501 | should not require any forwarding |
| 23:39.33 | [Scythereal] | Odd, it's not working for me but HTTP is fine |
| 23:39.44 | JeffM2501 | you have a proxy server? |
| 23:39.47 | [Scythereal] | One sec, I'll load up a firewall |
| 23:39.50 | [Scythereal] | No, just a router |
| 23:40.01 | JeffM2501 | your ISP have a proxy? |
| 23:40.09 | [Scythereal] | No |
| 23:40.11 | [Scythereal] | Direct connection |
| 23:40.46 | [Scythereal] | Wait, got it |
| 23:40.51 | [Scythereal] | Firewall was off |
